Yankees-Orioles pregame/lineups/Orioles scratch
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 05, 2010 
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Greetings, Brian Heyman here at Yankee Stadium today for the series finale.
From the pregame interviews, Mariano Rivera says he feels good and is ready to go again, but Joe Girardi said he would prefer not to use him today if possible. Then his closer would have tomorrow’s off day to rest as well before the Boston series commences at Fenway on Friday night. The manager also said he doesn’t want to use Joba Chamberlain today in the wake of him saving games the last two nights. So who will close if there’s something to close? Girardi talked about mixing and matching.
Girardi said Jorge Posada was feeling a little better, but more will be known about the state of his strained right calf on Friday “when we get him moving around.”
In a TV note, the July 10 and 11 games against Seattle are going to be the first-ever MLB 3D telecasts for those with DIRECTV HD who have 3D TV sets and reside in the YES home coverage area that includes New York State, Connecticut, north and central Jersey and northeast Pennsylvania.
OK, the lineups:
Yankees
1. Derek Jeter SS
2. Nick Johnson DH
3. Mark Teixeira 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Robinson Cano 2B
6. Nick Swisher RF
7. Brett Gardner CF
8. Francisco Cervelli C
9. Randy Winn LF
Andy Pettitte P
O’s
1. Adam Jones CF
2. Ty Wigginton 2B
3. Nick Markakis RF
4. Miguel Tejada 3B
5. Garrett Atkins 1B
6. Matt Wieters DH
7. Nolan Reimold LF
8. Craig Tatum C
9. Julio Lugo SS
David Hernandez RHP
Update, 12:31: Adam Jones has been scratched with a right hip strain. So Lugo will hit first and Lou Montanez will be added to the lineup and hit ninth.
Buster Olney is obsessed with the Rays; I can?t read his blog, but the blurb that is on the website says he thinks these Rays remind him of the 1998 Yankees. Um, ok.
Just DL Jorge……..
A Yankee game in 3-D? CR9 better buy extra Kleenex, if you know what I mean.
Niemann and Davis are both inexperienced at the major league level.
That will take it’s toll as the season progresses.
And Price only has 1 season under his belt.
Let’s just see what happens.
I’m betting that they can’t sustain it.
That’s good Mo and Jorge are feeling better.
Hopefully Posada checks out OK on Friday.
Betsy,
You want every injured player on the DL. I can’t make such a diagnose from my computer.
CR9 – here’s the data…
2009 – Runs Scored – Away
NYY – 455
LAA – 439
Mil – 419
Cle – 415
LAD – 415
Phi – 412
Tor – 409
Atl – 403
Bos – 391
2009 – Runs Scored – Home
Bos – 481
Col – 464
NYY – 460
LAA – 444
you get the idea… Gammons is full of it.
Right, because wanting an extra catcher up here is unreasonable.
As good as the Rays may be this year, they don’t have the one thing that separates the ’98 Yanks for all other teams:
Mariano Rivera.
Rafael Soriano couldn’t shine Mariano’s shoes.
Niemann has over 200 innings in the majors and has more ML innings than Hughes. Davis is a rookie while Price is on the verge of being a horse.
Betsy – I’m pretty sure if the Yankee’s thought they needed an extra catcher called up, they would have done it. I don’t question the judgment of the professionals.
“Rafael Soriano couldn’t shine Mariano’s shoes”
Too nice.
He couldn’t hold Mariano’s golden jockstrap.
MTU(aka GBURL) May 5th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Niemann and Davis are both inexperienced at the major league level.
That will take it’s toll as the season progresses.
And Price only has 1 season under his belt.
Let’s just see what happens.
I’m betting that they can’t sustain it.
I’m betting they won’t sustain it either. If they do, you have to say what the hell.
“Right, because wanting an extra catcher up here is unreasonable.”
Not according to Girardi and Cashman.
‘Right, because wanting an extra catcher up here is unreasonable.’
I don’t see an issue, Georgy is fine, they are just giving him a few days off to get him ready for Boston.
xyz May 5th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
As good as the Rays may be this year, they don?t have the one thing that separates the ?98 Yanks for all other teams:
Mariano Rivera.
Rafael Soriano couldn?t shine Mariano?s shoes.
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Nice.
The 1998 Yankees were one of the greatest teams of all time; the Rays are very good, but Buster is crazy. Can he wait and see how the season plays out before he makes that comparison?
Craw-
“Niemann has over 200 innings in the majors and has more ML innings than Hughes. Davis is a rookie while Price is on the verge of being a horse.”
I still count that as inexperienced.
And yes, that same caution may apply to Phil, or any other young pitcher.
Irreverent
Thanks. That quells some of my fears.
But I guess that the Sox were 4th in the AL. So Gammons probably meant the AL, and wasnt that far off.
It’s only an article to generate discussion which is what you’re doing here right now.
There is a good case for the 1998 Yankees being THE greatest team of all time…Buster is, well Buster…
I’m not saying the Rays aren’t good – they might be better than the Yankees – but the 1998 Yankees?
Phil-
“If they do, you have to say what the hell.”
True but the odds are against it IMO.
The Yanks don’t want to add another catcher unless they feel it’s really necessary because they’d have to make a move on the 40-man roster. They really don’t want to drop somebody from the roster for a few bumps and bruises.
Girardi has said that Posada would be the emergency catcher if something happens with Cervelli. If that’s the case, it appears they are just being extremely cautious with Posada’s boo boo and don’t feel it’s anything to be that concerned about.
I wouldn’t count on inexperience being a reason why the Rays won’t continue to be a very good team this year, but you’re welcome to think that way if you desire.
cr9 – i count 5 but yeah, gammons isn’t concerned with details :p
craw – just like you should never trust a team with 2 rookie starters.
Some people prefer the emphasis the Rays have on youth but I prefer the mixture that the Yankees have.
I think the edge that experience has over youth tells the tale when the pedal hits the metal.
Maybe I am wrong but that’s my take.
Irreverent
Oops. My mistake. And yes, Gammons is never concerned with details
The only details Gammons knows are the curves of Red Sox minor leaguer’s body!
Correction: The only details Gammons knows are the curves of every Red Sox minor leaguer’s body!
Boston Olney also said Buerhlee’s no-hitter was profound because it was against such a lethal team like the Rays, while comparing it to the ‘weak’ no hitters that Cone/Wells threw against inferior competition.
“craw ? just like you should never trust a team with 2 rookie starters.”
If they had 2 rookie starters, I would agree with you, but that’s not the case here. Being young ML starters is quite different than being a rookie pitcher like Davis.
Joe
That was Sanchez’ no hitter. Boston Olney said Sanchez’ no hitter was better than Cone/Wells.
’m not saying the Rays aren’t good – they might be better than the Yankees – but the 1998 Yankees
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This team had veteran pitching and players. There is no comparison to a team built of all young talent. Plus THE RAYS HAVENT FACED ANYONE WHO CAN HIT YET!!
minny, detroit, texas, angels, and they lost 2-3 to the yankees.
hold judgement until the pitchers have to face actual hitters, not the whitesox, royals, mariners, and athletics.
craw – you can count the 120 innings that david price threw last year for whatever you want, but in my eyes he’s still too young to be considered anything but a rookie.
it’s actually ludicrous when you stop to think about it:
the Yanks finished ’98 125-50. 75 games over .500!
we’re roughly 25 games into the season and Olney has the cajones to compare Tampa Bay to that epic juggernaut?
his credibility should take a serious hit for that.
Craw-
I didn’t say they wouldn’t continue to be a very good team.
Please don’t put words in my mouth.
What I said is that they would not be able to sustain the pace they are on because their young starters will not be able to maintain the level they are pitching on right now all season.
Big difference.
They are a very talented youthful team.
It has it’s +’ and it’s -’s.
I don’t take them litely or dismiss them.
I just like our mix better and think it overcomes them.
JMO.
Joe, lol – that’s right, I forgot he said that.
Hey, if he thinks the Rays are that good, I suppose he thinks the Yankees are as well since we’re only a game behind and we beat them twice in their home park.
I like scratches to opposing lineups…
Boston Olney also said Buerhlee’s no-hitter was profound because it was against such a lethal team like the Rays, while comparing it to the ‘weak’ no hitters that Cone/Wells threw against inferior competition.
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lethal rays….. the rays have been on the wrong end of far too many no-hitters, 1 hitters, 2 hitters, etc…. when they are on they are on but they are also off fairly often too.
GUYS!!
It was Sanchez’ no hitter that Buster Olney used to insult Cone/Wells!!!
Please, I know that 100 percent, because if I ever come into contact with Buster, he’s gonna get tased for that comment
Tex’s Friend, sorry I don’t buy that. By that token, forget Phil’s performances against the A’s and Sox because they are poor offensive teams. In fact, he’s only faced one good offensive team- the Angels. Also by that token, don’t credit the Yankees for taking 2/3 from either of those team.
I must have missed something; who said the Rays weren’t going to be in it because they’re young?
I want more Joba!!
I said yesterday he needs his own entrance music. On Friday night he came in to Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil” although I don’t know if that’s his choice or they were just playing it incidentally. The song is older than Joba himself. Somehow that disturbs me.
Anyway it’s not a bad song to make the jog in from the pen with the heavy guitar licks but they didn’t time it properly and it wasn’t nearly loud enough.
I think the Yanks really need a guy to make sure these thing go perfectly. (I’m available nights and weekends)
SJ44, you and I are usually on the same page, but I have to disagree with youi onteh Red Sox. Your comments remind me of what yankee fans were saying about the Red Sox when we were up 3 games to none before the collapse. The Red Sox are a good team and are underperforming. Their pitching specifically is underperforming. They could right the ship and it is important we get as far away as we can before they do right the ship. If they are 10 out in September then we are in good shape?
damn, 3D?!
I am stuck with Comcrap. Fios is still not available in my area, I think they totally ignore us. No way I am gonna go with Satellite, I still wanna watch TV when it rains HARD.
I don’t see any reason why the Rays SP won’t hold up; much like the Yanks, they aren’t going to pitch like this all season, but they will be terrific. They have 5 starters, we’ve got 4 right now.
Gates, it is not that it won?t matter about Javy, it is that this team could still be very good. People talk about pitching all the time, but offense is important in winning as well; the Yanks have the best offense in our division and that will help as well. Atlanta always had the pitching and they couldn?t win the big one because they couldn?t hit enough and when they faced a better offense the pitching wasn?t as good.
Bronx-
If you are still looking for those opiate darts check out the James Bond movies.
Pretty sure they had that in one of them.
I think the Rays have a good team. I enjoy watching them play. Before anyone compares them to the 1998 Yankees lets see how thier pitching does in the post season. They have a total of 56 innings from thier starters in the postseason and thier closer has never been there. The pressure is going to be so much greater this year because people are expecting them to be there at the end. Experience does count.
I don’t underestimate sux. They are like bunch of crazy sick dogs, you never know when they will bit you.
‘bite’
I don’t do game threads.
see you all later.
enjoy the game.
“I don’t underestimate sux. They are like bunch of crazy sick dogs, you never know when they will bit you.”
And when the umpires and other managers will help them.
Last night, it was Scio.
It was the umpires in their 2 wins over the Rangers.
The more games they get gifted now, the less they have to actually win themselves later.
I highly, highly recommend DirecTV. It’s not cheap, but like they say, “You get what you pay for.”
If you’re a football fan, there is nothing in the world like the Sunday Ticket. It’s almost like sensory overload (but in a good way).
The Sox are a 90 win team. The Rays are a 94 – 100 win team. The Yanks are a 100+ win team.
Joe did he make mention of the no hitters the soxs pitched? They were against the O’s correct? That lethal O’s lineup. LOL
I don’t get the love for Gammons, I for one can’t stand him.
“As good as the Rays may be this year, they don’t have the one thing that separates the ‘98 Yanks for all other teams:
Mariano Rivera.”
Interestingly, Mo only threw 61 innings for the entire season in 1998. 61 innings. That’s it. That represents around 4% of all the innings thrown by the staff that year (assuming 1400 total innings)
He appeared in only 54 games that year.
61 innings is the fewest innings Mo has thrown in any season in which he didn’t suffer from a serious injury. 54 appearances were the fewest he’s made in any season in which he didn’t suffer from significant injury.
So in the greatest season in recent yankee history, arguably their greatest weapon was used the least he’s ever been (only referring to the regular season during which they accumulated those 114 wins).
And that makes sense as that team was so much better than other teams it didn’t play that many close games and the closer wasn’t needed that frequently.
Hopefully this season plays out the same way.
1998 was the season in which mar
as far as losing the signal goes: I’ve had DirecTV for about 7 yrs, and have lost the signal less than 10 times (though I did have to climb up on the roof to clear this dish when we had that killer snow storm this winter).
it’s not as if there isn’t service interruptions w/the other providers, btw. in the end, it certainly shouldn’t be a deal-breaker.
and no, I don’t work for DirecTV.
satellite also works in the rain… and snow… and has for like the last 10 years.
“And that makes sense as that team was so much better than other teams it didn’t play that many close games and the closer wasn’t needed that frequently.”
which is why a closer is not as important as the best position players.
My neighbor got DriecTV. He’s not able to watch TV when weather sucks.
Lets go Yankees!!!
jz – he needs to get his dish pointed properly then.
jennifer
Yes. Buster mentioned Lester’s no hitter as being great, which was against the Royals IIRC.
next up: Buster Olney explains how Bio-Dome is every bit as good as Citizen Kane.
Those of us stuck at work would really appreciate frequent updates
Go ANDY!!!
The Rays? Their pitching won’t hold up. a distant second, in fight for wild card. Red Sox – finished.
I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that Cervelli wins the starting job in ST for 2011 and becomes the starting catcher and pushes Posada to DH where Jorge can extend his career an extra year or two after 2011.
The Yankees made Montero available for Halladay.
Why wouldn’t they make him available for a top pitcher to replace Vazquez?
I love (actually adore/worship) Mo, but the difference between the 1998 Yankees and the 2010 Rays goes beyond him. It’s ridiculously premature for Buster to write this kind of stuff, but maybe he’s planning on writing a book about the Rays – it sure seems like it.
CR9,
He referenced the Cone/Wells no-hitters both times.
He said Burhlee’s was more special because of how explosive Tampa’s offense was compared to the Twins/Expos.
He said Sanchez’ was more impressive than that because of the stuff I guess. I do remember him referencing how good the lineup Burhlee faced compared to the Cone/Wells one.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....di_en.html
Joe
My apologies. I thought you confused the two. I guess Boston Olney is sick enough of a human being to commit the same egregious crime not once, but twice.
NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Those of us stuck at work would really appreciate frequent updates
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I second this!
I have a feeling I won’t be getting much work done for the rest of the day.
“Please don?t put words in my mouth.”
You do a good enough job of that by yourself without me having to help you.
“What I said is that they would not be able to sustain the pace they are on because their young starters will not be able to maintain the level they are pitching on right now all season.”
The Yankees won’t be able to maintain their current pace, so what’s your point>?
“Which is why it is foolish that people keep saying that Javy can continue to suck and it won’t matter. We can’t have a blackhole every 5th day…
Two questions:
- Did the 2009 NY Yankees have a black hole every 5th day? Y/N?
- Did the 2009 NY Yankees win 103 games? Y/N?
Am i reading this right? Vazquez pitched against Cone in his perfect game?
Olney is half right, both lineups Cone and Wells faced were awful…
I was reading the posts about burying BOS in the last thread and wanted to comment on that. I totally agree that TB is vastly superior to BOS and will be the chief rival to the Yankees this season. Which isn’t to say that BOS won’t play better than they have thus far. However, their chances of overcoming either TB/NYY to make the playoffs weren’t great coming into the season–factor in their rough start and their chances look really remote now. Assuming BOS goes 3-2 in the last two games against LAA and in the series against the Yankees, they will be 16-16 with 130 games left. Of those first 32 games, 20 will have been at home, leaving only 61 more home games. Of those 61, 3 are vs. NYY, 3 vs. TB, and 3 vs. PHI. The 69 road games will include 9 @ NYY, 9 @ TB, and 3 @ PHI. (BOS hasn’t played a single game @ either NYY or TB.) BOS also has three west coast road trips of 6 games, 10 games, and 6 games. Considering that BOS will need to play .600 baseball to reach 95 wins and that they have 32 games remaining against the two best teams in the AL and arguably the best NL team, they are in for an immense challenge.
Craw – the point is that neither of you are making relevant observations.
Ryan Madson of the Phils is going to miss at least 8 weeks with a broken toe – he broke his toe kicking a chair in the clubhouse (I assume after he pitched badly). These players have got to think before they act …….
Bronx-
If you are still looking for those opiate darts check out the James Bond movies.
Pretty sure they had that in one of them.
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It may sound like a good idea but then you’d probably have about 50 “field jumpers” per game.
Then of course you’d have to carry them off the field, medics with Narcan available for the lightweights etc. .
The logistics just seem too complicated.
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champ809 May 5th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
The point you guys are missing regarding the RedSox that SJ is correct in pointing out is that the Sox as currently constituted are a seriously flawed team that are not on the same level as the Yanks and the Rays.
They may have offensive explosions against the lower tier teams in the league and they’ll win their fair share of those games but head to head against the Yanks and Rays they haven’t even been competitive and that is what is going to bury them.
the Rays have owned the Sox for the last 3 yrs and the gap between them has only widened…
we are 11-2 against them since last year and may end up sweeping them this weekend.
the yanks btw didn’t make Montero available for Halladay….
BryanHoch Ready to go in New York. Andy Pettitte unbeaten in his last eight starts vs. Baltimore.
The 2010 Rays are MUCH better than the 2009 Red Sox (or Rays)…..What does last year have to do with anything?
“jz – he needs to get his dish pointed properly then.”
That’s probably the way to fix it. But DirecTV “technician” installed dish for him.
I predict Pettitte will be a Yankee again in 2011. He’s far from done.
the Expos had some decent hitters in Cone’s perfect game.
I’m surprised Buster hasn’t heard of:
Orlando Cabrera
Rondell White
Jose Vidro
Brad Fullmer
oh, and some scrub named Vladimir Guerrero.
Buster’s credibility currently circling the drain…
# Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The 2010 Rays are MUCH better than the 2009 Red Sox (or Rays)…..What does last year have to do with anything?
Too early.
jz – they install all of the dishes… they are independent installation companies (ie. not owned or operated by directv). I had the guy back at my house 3 times before they dish was pointed correctly and able to withstand heavy rain/snow storms.
just leaving it operating at an unacceptable level is… silly.
I must have missed something; who said the Rays weren’t going to be in it because they’re young?
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no one. im saying you cannot compare them to 98 just because they started well. The younger teams have no experience holding up for a full season. doesnt mean they cant but olney cannot compare them based on one month.
Carl – they are, in fact, much better. They actually have a closer for one…
xyz
No.
Buster will explain how Fever Pitch is better than Citizen Kane.
And also how Ben Affleck is a better actor than Cary Grant.
And also how Stephen King is a better author than Edgar Allen Poe.
you’ve covered both teams now. in ny they are making a big deal out of Cano being better than Dustin. your thoughts?
Pete Abe:
“If Cano had half of Dustin’s energy and commitment, he’d be the MVP. Maybe he is starting to acquire some of that.
Over their last 162 games, the Boston Red Sox are 89-73.
Not bad.
Make of that what you will…
“Craw ? the point is that neither of you are making relevant observations.”
I’m sorry, but neither are you for that matter.
I’m starting to hate these commercials they added to MLB.tv.
They’re hideously awful. Just terrible.
# Irreverent Discourse May 5th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Carl – they are, in fact, much better. They actually have a closer for one…
Don’t know if they were better than the Red Sox at this time. The Sox were hot going into May. I think they just swept us.
I know they were better than themselves.
Is Pete serious?
Markakis hits into a 4-6-3 DP.
Here come the Yanks.
Adam Jones must be much older than the back of his baseball card is saying because he’s hurt and only older players get hurt, at least, that’s what some around here think.
Betsy,
You say to not count the Red Sox short (agree);
You say the Rays have a very good team (agree);
Yanks are good (case closed)
What is your prediction on how each team will place in the AL East.
enjoy the game! I am gonna catch the evening encore.
# charlestonchew May 5th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I’m starting to hate these commercials they added to MLB.tv.
They’re hideously awful. Just terrible.
Sonic…Jeter shaving…gotta love it.
jz -
We had Direct TV, and I loved it. At the time it got very expensive to then have Cablevision for the computers. We also had a number of boxes on Direct TV. When the weather was very bad, very heavy sky, we did lose Direct TV. However, when we lose Cablevision now it can take a day or 2 to fix. The Direct TV cleared up as soon the heaviest clouds passed. If it were only up to me, I would go back to Direct TV in a quick minute.
test
Nick!
Nick got all of that.
NJ!!!!
very nice, Nick, FINALLY.
Jeter hits into 4-3 And Nick Johnson HR.
1-0 Yanks
Nickster!!!
Good for NJ
I have figured out why the Orioles have been better against the Sox this year
No Brian Roberts.
He is like a m o l e for the Red Sox, on the O’s. He hurts their offense against the Sox, and helps their offense against us.
Game thread up
Tex flies out to RF
ARod flies out to CF
Top 2nd. 1-0 Yanks
Nick put a hurting on the ball, instead of the other way around.
Run support.
test
*hole
“He is like a m o l e for the Red Sox, on the O’s. He hurts their offense against the Sox, and helps their offense against us.”
You were unaware of his absence when you predicted they’d lay down for the Red Sox and play the Yanks tough?
A better person would say “I made stupid statement”.
You?
You go with “Oh, it’s Brian Roberts”.
You’re consistent, I’ll give you that.
Game thread
I’ve seen a lot of illogical things, but this one is way up there.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/.....id=5165029
Forget the home run for a moment – that’s not really what made that at bat for Nick Johnson something of a relief.
All year long the book on johnson has been the same – run fastball’s in on his hands over the inside part of the plate. Johnson has taken that pitch for a strike over and over and over. That’s perhaps been the single biggest problem for Johnson all year.
And how did Hernandez start Johnson out that at bat? Two seamer running in on his hands and then tailing back over the plate.
What does NJ do? He takes it for a strike – yet again.
But what was so good to see was how NJ finally adapted his approach on pitch two. Hernandez tried the same pitch. He missed his spot some and left it more out over the plate – but the critical thing was the NJ was finally anticipating the pitch and adjusted his approach and swung at the pitch.
And he crushed it.
Johnson has power. And he’s a good hitter who has been locked in a slump where he’s been too passive.
And the pitch he’s been far too passive on is the pitch he just cranked out of the park.
That is very good to see.
I love the discussion about the RSox being done! LOL! They aren’t, but they must feel the angst of looking at our rear end.
TB is loaded and their minor league teams are too. That has to be very scary for both NYY & RSox. That being said, the NYY appear to be still ahead of TB IMO. A FA pickup of Lee & CC would push the Yanks even further ahead. The RSox on the otherhand are loaded with the wrong people and a very weak minor league IMO.
The RSox need to find a C, SS, 3B, CF, DH and BP help for next year with no discernable minor leaguer ready to step in at any of these positions. They have to decide if Martinez is worth the money in 2011 as a BU Catcher/DH.
The Yanks appear very deep in their needs areas, Catcher & Pitching, in the high level minors. This along with the dollars available to the Yanks must really be a nightmare for the RSox. Lastly, don’t count Toronto out either. They have tons of talent in the minors and quality young pitching too.