Yankees vs. Orioles
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 05, 2010 
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Nick Johnson brought a .134 average to the plate for his first at-bat in the first, but that rose with the flight of the ball, which landed in the second deck in right, just Johnson’s second homer of the season. You have to figure he’s going to hit if he can somehow stay healthy. 1-0, Yankees.
Update, 1:38: Nick Swisher does it again, a shot to the right-field seats. Swisher is now 9 for his last 17. Plate ump Paul Emmel just ejected Orioles pitching coach Rick Kranitz after Brett Gardner took a ball on the first pitch following the homer.
Update, 2:11: The Yankees didn’t get a lot out of that third inning, bases loaded and no one out. A-Rod had that RBI single, but Nick Johnson was out at the plate trying to score as well and did look out on the replay.
Update, 2:21: Andy Pettitte has been so good at working into trouble and then working out of it. And he almost did this time in the fourth. Bases loaded, one out, and he gets Matt Wieters swinging at a high-and-in 89 mph fastball, but he just missed low on a full count to Nolan Reimold to force in the run, 3-1, Yankees. Heading to the last of the fourth.
Update, 2:28: Francisco Cervelli is really impressive in a lot of ways. Handles the bat very well, getting bunts down as we’ve seen in this series. Miguel Tejada made no throw to second on his latest bunt, looked like second baseman Ty Wigginton was a little late getting the bag. Randy Winn just bunted the two runners over, and it was second-and-third, one-out. This was like an NL sequence. Jeter just brought in the run with a fielder’s choice grounder to short, 4-1.
Update, 2:34: Dave Trembley has seen enough of David Hernandez. He just walked Johnson to put runners at first and second with two outs. Mark Hendrickson, the former New Jersey Net, is coming in to pitch to Mark Teixeira.
Update, 2:37: Well, that didn’t work out too well for Trembley. Teixeira delivered a two-run double to the track in right-center, although Lou Montanez looked like he was going to catch it. It’s 6-1.
Update, 2:50: Sergio Mitre is warming in the bullpen as the Yankees bat here. Pettitte has only worked five, allowing one run and six hits, although there has been at least one on base in all but one inning.
Update, 2:52: Pettitte is indeed done.
Update, 2:56: Pettitte only threw 77 pitches. So Girardi is either saving bullets for another day in a one-sided game or something’s up. We’ll see after the game.
Update, 3:07: Johnson finally looks like his old self at the plate. He has still been patient, drawing two walks. But he’s turned on a couple of fastballs, driving one for that homer in the first and the other to the track in right-center for a double in the sixth.
Update, 3:27: That was quite a two-run shot by Ty Wigginton off Mitre, to the second deck in left. It’s 6-3. Damaso Marte is coming in to pitch. It’s 6-3. Wonder who will work the ninth. Girardi wanted to stay away from Rivera and Chamberlain.
Update, 3:50: It’s no longer a save situation with Johnson’s RBI single in the eighth. David Robertson got the final out of the eighth and will start the ninth.
Update, 3:59: Girardi is staying away from Rivera and Chamberlain and this inning has become an adventure. David Robertson gave up solo shots to Matt Wieters and Nolan Reimold, and it’s 7-5. Now it’s Boone Logan’s turn to pitch with two outs to go. Alfredo Aceves is warming up.
Update, 4:09: After two walks sandwiched around one out, it’s Aceves’ turn to close.
Update, 4:13: Aceves got Wigginton to fly to right for the save. Yankees win, 7-5. Also, Johnson’s RBI was just taken away in the eighth. It’s a single and an error on Wigginton at second to allow the seventh run to cross.
where has alex’s power gone?
maybe his knee hurts more than he is letting on? he is getting no power behind his swings. Does he need a couple days to heal also?
No. Just getting pounded in. Not getting anything to extend on.
LoHud,
Why have you forsaken us?
I dont understand.
This Atkins didnt do that once in 3 AtBats with 8 men on base against the Sox.
Here he is against us, putting balls in play, actually trying…
In the spirit of “Who is Karim Garcia?!”
Who is Brian Heyman?!
BBYanks, I have no prediction for the season….I have no idea who will win the AL East.
Is it wrong to want to tell a friend who texted me that he was at today’s game (while I am super-stressed at work) to go shut up?
Alex will probably end up spreading his stance out again like last year.
“I dont understand.
This Atkins didnt do that once in 3 AtBats with 8 men on base against the Sox.
Here he is against us, putting balls in play, actually trying…”
So you’re choosing to ignore the fact the O’s went 4-0 against the Sox and 4-1 (with the possibility of 5-1?) against the Yanks since you made your prediction?
Where was that pitch?
nice turn
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
DP!!!!
Forget the home run for a moment – that’s not really what made that at bat for Nick Johnson something of a relief.
All year long the book on johnson has been the same – run fastball’s in on his hands over the inside part of the plate. Johnson has taken that pitch for a strike over and over and over. That’s perhaps been the single biggest problem for Johnson all year.
And how did Hernandez start Johnson out that at bat? Two seamer running in on his hands and then tailing back over the plate.
What does NJ do? He takes it for a strike – yet again.
But what was so good to see was how NJ finally adapted his approach on pitch two. Hernandez tried the same pitch. He missed his spot some and left it more out over the plate – but the critical thing was the NJ was finally anticipating the pitch and adjusted his approach and swung at the pitch.
And he crushed it.
Johnson has power. And he’s a good hitter who has been locked in a slump where he’s been too passive.
And the pitch he’s been far too passive on is the pitch he just cranked out of the park.
That is very good to see.
Working the double plays today. Nice.
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Is it wrong to want to tell a friend who texted me that he was at today?s game (while I am super-stressed at work) to go shut up?
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No. I would have done the same. Except probably used harsher language.
Chad,
Can you teach Brian how to have a post go up at a set time?
Erin May 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
No. I would have done the same. Except probably used harsher language.
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I was definitely thinking harsher language. But this is a family blog!
After a couple of singles Pettitte uses his best buddy, the DP, to retire the side as “Judge” Reimold goes 6-4-3 to kill the mini rally.
Erica
Don’t you ever get a break?
After October 15?
BloggingBombers Asked earlier about the Joe West issue this weekend, Girardi said he didn’t anticipate either the Yankees or Red Sox playing differently.
That looked outside. should be 3-0.
Should be a 4 pitch walk.
Swish!
Carl, I hope Alex does not go back to his other stance……
Swish!
Well, I’ll take that instead. Though I dont appreciate getting cheated on the 2-0 count-altering pitch.
The Nick and Nick show.
CR9 May 5th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Erica
Don?t you ever get a break?
After October 15?
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If I ever get a break, I’ll let you folks know. The last two weeks have been awful. My boss kept pushing me to the brink of tears at the end of last week. Finally yesterday morning, I decided to let myself have an emotional outburst in the bathroom. I felt better after that though.
But I am really irritated today
Robbie fly out to CF And Swish goes BOOM!
2-0 Yanks
Swish OH-IO
Is Joe West umpiring that series? I’m sorry, that’s just ridiculous.
Not sure what the Orioles arguing about. It’s us who have been cheated…
Alex is not generating power because he’s not as explosive pivoting through his hips as he usually is.
On too many pitches – especially inside – he’s not clearing his hips through the ball as he does when he’s right.
I don’t know if it’s his knee or if he’s not seeing the ball or what it is. But he’s just missing on a lot of pitches and getting under he ball – his swing is just off or just late. His swing also looks like it’s a lot of hands right now.
When Alex is right he’s generating tremendous torque through his lower body, hips and torso. That’s not there right now.
Is Joe West umpiring that series? I’m sorry, that’s just ridiculous
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How is this possible? And Why? If he doesnt like the pace of the game, dont ump those games. Both teams will be watching him and his ‘strike zone’.
pat May 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
The Nick and Nick show.
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Love it.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Carl, I hope Alex does not go back to his other stance……
Did wonders for him last year. If you went and looked at him in that Red Sox series in Fenway when we swept them, all the way until the last series in Tampa, he was top 3 or 4 in baseball.
Erica
Sorry to hear about your idiot boss. Try not to let him/her bother you. You’re a terrific person, and even better, a Yankees fan!
Swish has taken a liking to YS, lol. It all started when he admitted that not hitting well here was getting to him mentally…….Maybe all athletes should come clean so that they can rid themselves of the loser gene.
GARDI!!!
and now! Run Gardi RUN!
Of course Joe West will be umpiring our series.
Bud Selig knows where his bread is buttered, Joe West will cheat the Yankees no matter what, and treat the Sox fairly while just pretending not to like the Sox.
Carl, I mean he should stick with the new stance that Long taught him.
Maybe Alex needs more than a day off; maybe his hip is bothering him….
Erin May 5th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
pat May 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
The Nick and Nick show.
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Love it.
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Me too! But where is Mr Nick in SF to provide commentary on the Nick and Nick show?
I don’t even know how he hurt his knee; I’ve seen it suggested (was it Kay?) that maybe Alex is trying to compensate for his hip and ,as a result, his knee is being affected?
I checked out how bad the Expos lineup was for Cones perfect game. There are a lot of holes in that lineup but a few good hitters there too. I’d say they had a better lineup than today’s Pirates for sure.
Wilton Guerrero .292/.324/.403/.727
Terry Jones .270/.303/.317/.620
(Sub) James Mouton .262/.364/.369/.732
Rondell White .312/.359/.505/.863
Vladimir Guerrero .316/.378/.600/.978
Jose Vidro .304/.346/.476/.822
Brad Fullmer .277/.321/.464/.785
Chris Widger .264/.325/.441/.766
Shane Andrews .195/.295/.368/.662
(sub) Ryan McGuire .221/.347/.343/.690
Orlando Cabrera .254/.293/.403/.696
2 Pitchers
Gardner sure gets in their heads when he is on base
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Swish has taken a liking to YS, lol. It all started when he admitted that not hitting well here was getting to him mentally??.Maybe all athletes should come clean so that they can rid themselves of the loser gene.
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I was at the game on September 8th sitting in right field when Nick hit his two home runs (the last was a walk off).
I take full credit for my presense changing his ability to hit at home
CR9 May 5th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Erica
Sorry to hear about your idiot boss. Try not to let him/her bother you. You?re a terrific person, and even better, a Yankees fan!
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Thanks
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=6226117
Here is the game right here Betsy. Wide stance. Small leg kick. Using his hands more. He’ll be aight.
Gardner reaches on a GGBG special and then steals 2nd.
Good job of hitting there by Gardner. That’s the kind of pitch he’s going to see more and more of – fastball inside.
That’s the kind of pitch that’s very difficult to hit the other way unless you have bat control and hands like Jeter.
The slap swing the other way Gardner has been using isn’t going to work on the inside pitches gardner saw in that at bat. He’s going to have to turn on those pitches – and he did that well there. The play probably should have been made but Gardner hit is squarely on the ground which is what his strategy should be. Even if the play is made gardner still might have been safe on the play.
Teams are not going to want to allow Gardner to hit the ball to the left side of the field. He has such dominant speed that even ground balls to hole at SS aren’t easy outs for the defense.
They are going to try to force him to pull the ball.
Betsy,
If its anything, It’s his knee.
GGBG – a Yankee weapon.
CB
I would think he’s seeing the ball because he’s not striking out alot.
His timing seems out of whack. He’s not as still at the plate as he was and his leg kick is bigger again. Both of those things seem like timing mechanisms.
A perfect game is a perfect game; the fact that Olney would try to diminish anyone’s effort is really beyond asinine.
Carl, it’s just puzzling…….He’s moving well, so I guess it can’t be the hip.
If Gardner is still batting .350 at the end of June at what point does he become too valuable to the team to steal bases?
Cr9
Is Joe West going to be part of the crew for the Sox Yanks series ?
# Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
A perfect game is a perfect game; the fact that Olney would try to diminish anyone’s effort is really beyond asinine.
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No, Betsy, that’s not asinine for ESPN. That’s the norm. That’s what’s expected.
I understood, though, that you meant it’s asinine in general.
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/p.....-2K10.html
Jeremy
I dont know. But since I know West’s bias, and know Selig’s bias, then I would not be surprised if he is.
People on here are talking as if he is…
# Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Carl, it’s just puzzling…….He’s moving well, so I guess it can’t be the hip.
Yeah. He’ll figure it out. Too good not to.
Andy got cheated on the 1-0 pitch.
I don’t understand how guys like Joe West, CB Bucknor, and Marty Foster still habe jobs based on their records.
pat-
That’s a good point about the striking out. I tend to agree it’s likely timing. I also agree that Alex’s front side mechanics are more back to being what they were before he made adjustments with Long last August.
His leg kick is more pronounced now than it was last september/ october. I’d like to see him go back to reducing motion in his mechanics. It kept his swing very short.
That’s part of why I’m a bit concerned about his knee. I wonder if his back knee is having some trouble supporting a more wide open stance.
He’s just not exploding on the ball like he usually does and pitches he usually crushes he’s just missing.
CR9
Last I saw Joe West he was on the west coast. Maybe Bud will keep him there.
Andy has a good pitch count. The pitching has been really good.
I have to wonder if Garrett Atkins comes from the same school of thought as Brian Roberts?
sorry-have jobs
I have to say is CC Sabathia should be embarrassed by his balloon-like plus-2 ERA.
We all always knew he wasn’t an ace…
Pettitte yawns his way through a 10 pitch 1-2-3 and we’re in the bottom of 3, Yanks up 2-0
A real Cowboy Joe game so far.
How much do you think the sterling infield defense is behind the Yankees pitchers success? Just noticed Andy smiling after Cano made a tough play look routine, it must make them really not worry about striking players out or even allowing a baserunner
Imagine what they would do with Nick Markakis and Nick Van Exel.
Haven’t heard the name Nick Van Exel in a while. Thanks Nick!
Speaking of names I havent heard in a while, Greg Ostertag appeared in a dream of mine a couple weeks ago! Strange!
stuckey
“I have to say is CC Sabathia should be embarrassed by his balloon-like plus-2 ERA.
We all always knew he wasn?t an ace?”
LOL !
If Gardner is still batting .350 at the end of June at what point does he become too valuable to the team to steal bases?
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What do you mean? Like he’d be injured stealing?
Jeter dunks a dipsy doodle into RF for a single and Nick does his voodoo for a BB. Yanks in business with no outs and the heart is coming up.
# stuckey May 5th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
I have to say is CC Sabathia should be embarrassed by his balloon-like plus-2 ERA.
We all always knew he wasn’t an ace…
Don’t know if you were here early last year stuckey, but a lot of people were saying that last year.
CR9, did you have an actual question about L
ST for me? I have received no email.
And please do not discuss any aspect of last night’s episode here.
I have to wonder if Mark swung at the 2-0 count.
Andy is pitching like he’s 10 years younger; it’s too early, of course, but I’m not sure when I’ve seen him look this good.
CB, do you buy into the notion that the SP are feeding off each other and, in some way, are almost in a competition with each other? AJ mentioned Phil talking about passing the torch to each SP (and presumably the next SP takes that torch and runs with it). In Kevin Kernan’s article today, Phil made a joke about how the position players sometimes want to shoo the SP into the video room because they are always sarcastic and getting on each other’s cases. Per Kim Jones, AJ spent time talking about Javy yesterday and it’s clear that they really care about getting him righted – he’s still a big part of that rotation. It seems as if there is a fantastic chemistry among the starters…
Nick
Yes. I told you I wouldnt email you right away, because I didnt want your head to explode. Im a bit of a humanitarian that way
“Don’t know if you were here early last year stuckey, but a lot of people were saying that last year.”
Hence the sarcasm…
I put on my tin foil hat before I check that email account, no worries.
Tex walks and Hernandez is in trouble.
Why go home?
We had the bases loaded…
I think he was safe anyways…
Nick in SF May 5th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
CR9, did you have an actual question about L ST for me? I have received no email.
And please do not discuss any aspect of last night?s episode here.
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SPOILER ALERT
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I don’t watch Lost. I just wanted to be annoying
safe
oh nm he was out. nice yes mo
And Arod takes it up the middle.
Jeter scores but Nick gets gunned down.
3-0 yanks/ 1st and 2nd / 1 out for Robbie
NJ was an able substitute for Matsui there.
Again, another catcher blocks home plate, and we get cost a run.
He was out.
But that’s why catchers need to get their a sses run over.
However, Nick shouldnt be doing that, as he is injury prone.
That’s why Nick never should have gone.
# stuckey May 5th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
“Don’t know if you were here early last year stuckey, but a lot of people were saying that last year.”
Hence the sarcasm…
I enjoy reading your post. I just don’t remember reading them last year.
“How much do you think the sterling infield defense is behind the Yankees pitchers success?”
The yankee pitching staff has been very good this year in part because they are striking out a lot of hitters and also generating a ton of ground balls.
AJ last year was generating 43% ground balls. This year it’s 49%. Andy last year was around 42% ground balls. Thsi year – 48%. Last year CC was 43% ground balls and this year he’s basically been Chien Ming Wang with 56% ground balls.
Ground balls are great but only if you have a good infield defense.
The biggest difference in the defense between this year and last has been Alex. He’s moving much better than last year and that’s made his range much better.
At some point you’ve got to feel sorry for the Orioles, no? I mean they’re 7-20 and look terrible.
nobody out you do NOT send a runner unless it’s a guarantee and NJ is pretty damn slow
Not worried about Al’s power especially since he’s hitting w/ RISP and still getting clutch hits.
I’s always great to have the picket fence going, but that should have been a big inning… nice coaching there
Ran ourselves out of a potentially big inning…
Robbie K’s
Swish flies out to CF
Top 4th/ 3-0 yanks – Hernandez has thrown 67 pitches
Here’s the answer to today’s earlier discussion-
BloggingBombers Yankees will take the train to Boston, but don’t get your hopes up, they’ll be on a private train.
“At some point you’ve got to feel sorry for the Orioles, no?”
Peter Angelos.
Nick Swisher just missed another home run there. He was on that pitch and just missed hitting it 420 feet.
Cano’s at bat was where they needed to get another run home. Cano just tried to do too much on that 3-2 pitch. He’s been much more selective at the plate but it’s still a process, so to speak.
Sending Johnson there was a bit of a stretch given who was coming up to the plate and the runner involved.
Forget this being the best Andy’s looked in however many years. Its debatable that he’s ever been this good, unless you go back to 1997, which I only have faint memories of.
“Peter Angelos.”
What’s generally been the most expensive key word to purchase on google the past several years?
I think the Cano count was 2-2, but very unnecessary to swing at that pitch and bail him out.
If Cano can just progress to be more of a situational hitter he’d be the most dangerous hitter in baseball. Yesterday he swung at the first pitch with the bases loaded right after the pitcher walked in a run. There is just no excuse for that.
After Wiggy pops one up, Markakis and Tejada both single.
Cano’s at bat was where they needed to get another run home
Good god man… it’s not that serious.
Atkins is up there taking pitches and everything…
“What’s generally been the most expensive key word to purchase on google the past several years?”
“Mesothelioma”
Andy’s running two seamers away trying to get attkins to roll over on the pitch to SS to generate the DP.
Let’s hope it works.
I just hope this game ends by 4pm, great futbol match Madrid/Mallorca (BTW, a beautiful island if you’re ever in Spain) on espn3.com. Premier soccer played at a high level is as good as any sport in the world IMO.
I dont believe that.
He just fouled off pitches, took pitches, and did not flail over pitches low and inside…
Is Atkins the new Yankee killer – if so, I agree with that unintentional intentional walk.
Atkins walks and bases jammed for Weiters
I don’t know about google keywords, but Angelos is reportedly competing with John Edwards to represent baseball fan taser victims in a class-action suit.
And let’s all pull for the Mallorca!
““Mesothelioma””
That’s it. It’s how Angelos made most of his money. Class action law suits on mesothelioma.
anyone hoping for another K to see Cervelli do his best Joba impression? No wonder Joba’s giving it to him, he’s stealing his thunder!
That was a really good pitch…
Both of those were pretty good pitches, that could have been swung at.
Well this is infuriating…..
Sterling just called Andy an “artiste”
Wieters’ K’s but then Andy enters his blue period walks Reimold.
Andy threw a great 2-2 cutter. That pitch was a strike. That 3-2 fastball looked very close as well.
no big deal
Neither the 2-2 or 3-2 pitch to Reimold were strikes.
They were, however, good pitches that could have been swung through.
And Reimold just spit on both of them.
I Andy getting squeezed? I’m at work and only have Gameday.
And Andy gets Tatum to ground out 4-3
Bottom 4th/ 3-1 yanks
But who will seek justice for the victims of blog tasering?
CB – you speculated on Alex possibly having a problem with his back – right – knee, as a cause for his power outage and poor mechanics. Might be related to the leg soreness that Joe cited when he gave him a day off the other day.
Andy pitching to the scoreboard like old Dave Cone rather walk in a run than give in
cb,
are you serious about angelos and class action law suits? i knew the guy was weird, but that’s uber ambulance chasing at its finest.
i suggest that he be the first blog tasing victim.
Judging from the tweets i’m seeing, Andy is getting squeezed. Anyone know his pitch count?
Are pitchers walking Brett Gardner now because they are worried about his power???
Gardner’s start is beginning to become absurd…
Listening to Suzyn is bad enough, but having to listen to her sniffle the entire game is killing me! Make it stop!
I remember Andy’s cubist period.
Everything he threw was flat…
By the way is there anybody out there relying on these updates I’m giving?
I figure as it’s the rare mid-week day game I’d do something positive in here but frankly it’s kind of tedious.
Gardner walks..
BryanHoch Thumbs up to playing “Power of Love.” Somewhere, Marty just rolled past the Burger King and hitched his skateboard to a jeep.
“Andy enters his blue period”
Cervie does it again
Wow another bunt. Better start playing Cervelli in.
Damon out of the Tigers/Twins game with a leg injury.
WHOOOSHHHH!!! That’s the sound of Erica leaving the board run run to administer comfort and aid to Johnny.
“are you serious about angelos and class action law suits? i knew the guy was weird, but that’s uber ambulance chasing at its finest. ”
At it’s height (haven’t seen the numbers for years), people were paying $30-$40 dollars just to have you click on an ad for Mesothelioma litigation, which is a crazy, crazy figure.
It’s been a billions of dollars a year industry for years.
“That’s it. It’s how Angelos made most of his money. Class action law suits on mesothelioma”
In the Buffalo are there are T.V. spots for his law firm. Much like the Binder & Binder ads on around here….
The Message by Grand Master Flash. Nice choice by Winn.
Tom
You can always do worse. Listening to Kay talk about candy and ask Leiter questions and then answer the questions himself (making himself seem smart) when he has asked the same question 150 times, is worse.
Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
By the way is there anybody out there relying on these updates I?m giving?
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Yes, I am really appreciating them. I hate being stuck at work when there’s a game.
Thank you
Tejada channeling his inner Manny
umm that’s a gift
Joe-
That’s what I’m somewhat concerned about. His knee problem might not be serious but it might be bothering him enough where it’s having some impact on his base. He’s just getting under a bunch of pitches that he usually crushes. I was just wondering if he might be having trouble pushing off/ keeping his back leg intact and transferring weight.
But as you noted, that’s purely speculative. He just looks off. Might be one of those runs he gets into though and just be the usual ups and downs of the season.
Swisher: 5 HR on the season.
A-Rod: 2 HR on the season.
Huh. I’m still mystified, and maybe a little worried.
Bronx,
Updates greatly appreciated…..Trapped at work and can’t check Gameday often.
Keep bunting to Tejada, he has no clue what to do with one
Cervelli with another bunt single.
Winn then bunts them over.
2nd and 3rd/ 1 out for Jeter
Maybe Alex is spending too much time clearing and exploding his hips through Cameron Diaz’s Zone right now and has left himself sapped of strength…
Winn bunt sacrifices to 2nd and 3d
Can the top candidate to be tased also represent the ‘victims’?
There’s a saying about that, but I won’t go there.
NY writers would LOOOOOVE Milton Bradley here. Teammates and fans, not so much.
http://bit.ly/dxTIGD
Jeter reaches on a fielders choice. Cervelli caught in a run-down. Gardner scores, Jeter at 1st
4-1 yanks
Well the O’s pen is not that good so the chance of them winning this game just went up.
Angelos was also involved in in the settlement against Phillip Morris and a drug company that made fen-phen.
Didn’t like either bunt there. Gardner could have stole 2nd without the bunt; let Winn hit this guy.
Does bringing in Mark Hendrickson to face righty hitting 3 and 4 spots make any sense at all? Must be a numbers thing, or else Trembley is just trying to get fired.
Erin May 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Yes, I am really appreciating them. I hate being stuck at work when there?s a game.
Thank you
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My friend that is there keeps sending me pictures of the field. Infuriating
Jeremy
Cla Meredith, their best reliever, has pitched in 2 straight games. Wonder if Shatner will throw him in there again at some point.
Tex!!
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 5th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
My friend that is there keeps sending me pictures of the field. Infuriating
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That’s just mean! lol
YES!!!!!
It’s May FISH!
Well that move failed.
Nick Johnson walked and Hernandez got yanked
In comes lefty Mark Hendrickson and serves up a double off the wall to Tex.
6-1 Yanks.
I’m sniffing a sweep here.
“NY writers would LOOOOOVE Milton Bradley here. Teammates and fans, not so much.”
It was pretty remarkable over the winter how much praise the Bradley Silva trade drew for Jack Z and the M’s.
I understand that getting rid of Silva was not easy.
That said, they essentially gave the Cubs Silva + $5M for bradley. It seemed like too many people who were rejoicing about that deal for the M’s were overlooking the problems bradley creates, his inconsistency at the plate and his injury history.
The M’s can’t score at all. Bradley’s is being played in the field where he breaks up the whole defense first approach the M’s were supposedly taking and is off to a terrible start.
In the winter there were plenty of bats available. The M’s decided to devote a roster spot to Bradley again under the guise of “low risk high reward.”
It’ll be interesting to see how things go there. If bradely has already walked out on the team in may it could get very ugly.
That 0-1 pitch was not a strike.
Teixeira ♥ the month of May
no boarding at Grand Central Track 12 Aclea Express to Baltimore
did he stare at three pitches in the exact same spot?
Ouch. Not a great strike zone.
now not no
Cano has been a little passive at the plate lately. A lot of called 2nd and 3rd called strikes.
Come back soon, Pat M, you’re the only one who will appreciate all the Yankee props bets that have already hit.
Arods gets a intentional walk
Cano looks at 3 cutters for the K
Top 5 / 6-1 Yanks
“Didn’t like either bunt there. Gardner could have stole 2nd without the bunt;”
I understand what Cervelli is trying to do there, but it isn’t a good idea. Bunting largely negates Gardner’s speed.
He’s the last guy in baseball that needs a bunt to advance from first to second.
I thought the Winn bunt was fine. But give gardner a chance to steal the bag and save the out.
I guess it works against the O’s – they are a bad defensive club. But I hope Cervelli doesn’t continue doing that against more fundamentally sound teams with gardner on 1st.
The problem – for other teams – is that Tex is heating up, as is Swish, and now maybe NJ; and Brett is staying hot. So that, even as Robbie cools off (you thought he was going to hit .400 all year?) and Alex struggles with his swing, there is enough offense in that lineup to compensate. And when Alex does get it going, it will be awesome.
CB not sure if you saw this, but:
CB, do you buy into the notion that the SP are feeding off each other and, in some way, are almost in a competition with each other? AJ mentioned Phil talking about passing the torch to each SP (and presumably the next SP takes that torch and runs with it). In Kevin Kernan?s article today, Phil made a joke about how the position players sometimes want to shoo the SP into the video room because they are always sarcastic and getting on each other?s cases. Per Kim Jones, AJ spent time talking about Javy yesterday and it?s clear that they really care about getting him righted ? he?s still a big part of that rotation. It seems as if there is a fantastic chemistry among the starters..
On the other hand, this notion that they are feeding off each other could be an urban legend.
I wonder if their heavy workload last year has anything to do with their great starts. I know that sounds weird, but maybe actually pitching more innings strengthened their arms? Maybe it’s the idea that the more you pitch, the stronger you become?
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Cano has been a little passive at the plate lately. A lot of called 2nd and 3rd called strikes.
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I’m giving him a bit of a pass-after all, he practically carried the offense on his back in April.
He’ll get going again soon.
April Shower’s bring Teix’s power?
BryanHoch @Ledger_Yankees Hey remember when you called Kevin Long the ‘walking coach?’ And he scowled at you? That was great.
Maybe the issue of bunting with Brett on base needs to be rethought by the team’s braintrust.
I cant believe Julio Lugo…
…Unless, they just don’t trust him to steal on demand. But, that seems weird to me.
I beginning to smell a David Robertson sighting today….
GB7 -
Are you here?
I just got back from the River Dogs game. Did I see what I thought I saw?
Pettitte isn’t overly sharp today.
I owe an apology to someone. They said that the Sox were paying Lugo to play for the O’s and I told them he didn’t play for the O’s. I had thought he played for the Cardinals or something. So that was my bad.
YES!!!
DP!!!!!!!
I want Mitre to get one of those 3 inning saves…
Joe
I like them staggering getting hot. A 21-2 win still only counts as 1 win.
Doreen, I didn’t listen to the game, today. what happened?
“do you buy into the notion that the SP are feeding off each other and, in some way, are almost in a competition with each other? AJ”
Not really. Those kinds of stories are overblown. Players are asked about those kinds of things over and over. What are they supposed to say?
Fans love those stories. I don’t think it makes much difference.
When you’re on the mound it’s pretty much up to you alone to execute that pitch.
LOL Diamonds are a girl’s best friend and DPs are a pitcher’s best friends……..
GB, how are you feeling today? Have you seen the wonder twins?
Montanez hits a long fly out to Swish
Lugo singles again to CF
Wiggington hits into the 6-4-3 DP. 3rd DP this game.
77 pitches thru 5 for Andy.
6-1 Yanks /bottom 5th
when has a Yankee sac bunt this year not turned into runs? I think Girardi is using his new found job security to become the manager everyone thought he was going to be when he replaced Torre. Love the blend of small ball and big bats.
Pretty sure Doreee means Stoneburner…
Bronx Jeers,
When I was in AZ, all of April, I loved it when someone gave a running commentary.
“Not really. Those kinds of stories are overblown. Players are asked about those kinds of things over and over. What are they supposed to say?
Fans love those stories. I don’t think it makes much difference.”
Thank god, I thought I was the only one who thinks these narratives are overblown…
Erica’s Avengers salute Teixeira in May!!
CB, oh well, lol – it still does make for a good story. However, I guess it makes no sense. If Andy got rocked today, it doesn’t mean he didn’t want to live up to his peers – it just means he didn’t have it.
Ledger_Yankees I haven’t looked at the numbers. Don’t need to. The Orioles are the worst offensive team in the AL. They stink.
Ledger_Yankees Yankees pitchers deserve credit in this series, no doubt. But the Orioles have made them looked good too.
Erin May 5th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Cano has been a little passive at the plate lately. A lot of called 2nd and 3rd called strikes.
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I’m giving him a bit of a pass-after all, he practically carried the offense on his back in April.
He’ll get going again soon.
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Just that as well as his walks are up, but, a big increase in strikeouts. Needs to get back to being selectively aggressive instead of being picky and waiting for the perfect pitch. That’s not his game.
Anybody else as annoyed as I am with mlb.com and their new set of commercials during breaks? For the last 4 seasons only the radio broadcasts have had commercials…now I have to expand the mini screen view (perfect for working viewing, but where is the volume button there?), then mute, then do again after each break, all the time risking someone walking by my cube seeing a baseball game on my monitor, oh the horror…or I can crank the volume on my sirius music player until they come back from break.
BryanHoch Looks like Sergio Mitre is up in the #Yankees bullpen, taking a break from interrupting interviews w/ Robbie Cano.
Did anyone just hear this sick human being, Michael Kay…
He just said “If he is going to be used as a good luck charm” by Nick Swisher or anyone, he “would think there would be some form of payment”
SICK!! SICK!!! SICK!!!!!!!!
Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy grow playoff beards for the Bruins and Celtics, teams they do not cover.
Michael Kay dont care one iota about the Yankees. SICK!!!
Michael Kay is mean to Leiter. Poor Leiter.
I am just going to man up and get this over with so people can start gloating….
MPB Johnny Damon left the game with sore calves
what ss 2b combo has turned the most Douple plays for the Yankees?
where do you find such a stat? I have a guess.
Mitre is warming up I hope nothing is wrong with Andy.
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Just that as well as his walks are up, but, a big increase in strikeouts. Needs to get back to being selectively aggressive instead of being picky and waiting for the perfect pitch. That?s not his game.
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I’d be more than happy to have a chat with him for you.
Did any of you guys read the Daily News article today by Tim Smith. He said that the Yankees are boring because the team is winning and lacks drama. Arod hasn’t done much and George is no longer calling players out. I thought the article was stupid and funny.
Swish groundout 6-3
Gardy groundout 6-3.
Cervelli flies out to RF.
top 6th/ 6-1 Yanks
Here comes Mitre
77 pitches for pettitte? i know you want to keep him fresh but shouldnt they keep him around 90-100?
BryanHoch And that’s all for Andy Pettitte, after 77 pitches. Hmm
Pettitte only threw 77 pitches. I wonder if something happened, or if Girardi was just trying to spare him from pitching in the heat this early to preserve him for later on.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
LOL Diamonds are a girl’s best friend and DPs are a pitcher’s best friends……..
GB, how are you feeling today? Have you seen the wonder twins?
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Afternoon, betsy. I’m doing fine. Thank you for asking. Hope all is well in your household. I’ve only seen the kids on camera lately. They’ve had colds so, Morgan won’t bring them by. I think she believes it’s from too much pizza and beer.
77 pitches…
Uh oh…
Marc Carig, that’s not necessary – give me a break.
Did they shorten Andy to start him in Boston?
Okay, now I have to figure out why the filter ate my response.
The River Dogs pulled off a Triple Play in the 8th inning.
G. Stoneburner pitched 7 innings of 2 hit ball and had a no hitter going into the 6th. He walked 2, BUT, he struck out 11, 10 of his first 12 outs were K’s and at one point he struck out 7 in a row.
Not a big offense game, they only won 2-0, but it was a good, solid game.
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What’s up with Andy?
Doreen
I just looked at the boxscore. Did you see a triple play?
Why did they take Andy out ?
Who asked for 3 innings from Mitre?
Erica,
I won’t gloat. I was just teasing you anyway.
BryanHoch Waiting on official word – if anything? – on Andy Pettitte. Nothing announced yet.
Hey GB, aww…I hope they get over their sniffles soon.
Ok, I’m going to think positive – Andy has to be ok. It’s not that hot here on LI, but maybe in the Bronx?
No uh oh. No need to push a 39 year old in 90 degrees when Mitre has been excellent and needs the work. Wish they would do this more often, there’s just no reason to push Andy to 7-8 innings even if he’s capable of going.
I’m just hoping that this is Girardi trying to get away with pitching Mitre against a terrible team and saving Pettitte’s arm for later.
Girardi saving some bullets for Pettitte for the big bad Red Sox this Sunday, but he’ll never ever admit it.
Erin May 5th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Just that as well as his walks are up, but, a big increase in strikeouts. Needs to get back to being selectively aggressive instead of being picky and waiting for the perfect pitch. That?s not his game.
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I’d be more than happy to have a chat with him for you.
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LMAO. Any excuse will do, huh?
I hope Andy’s alright. Or maybe Mitre’s auditioning for Javy’s spot.
Oh no. Pettitte out early. Mitre in.
I know someone who’s feeling very nervous right now.
if pettitte goes down, derek jeter better find every lucky charm he can find.
I wonder what the deal is with Andy. He’s labored the last two starts a bit and I think Girardi is giving him a blow here. But there’s something we aren’t being told. Hope it’s nothing serious. Glad to see Mitre get another chance to pitch. Hope we can tack on a few more runs so that we can possibly see Robertson and Boone Logan get some work to keep everyone fresh.
Maybe they want Mitre to stretch out a bit?
Save Andy’s bullets?
Let’s hope it’s not an injury.
Pettitte isn’t pitching against the Red Sox. It’s going to be Hughes, CC and Burnett.
My bad. Pettitte is not pitching this weekend, he’s pitching in Detroit after Javy. I apologize Joe.
As long as Andy wasn’t taken out for injuries, this is the kind of breather that will help keep Andy fresh later on in the season.
The year before last he had problems with his shoulder the second half.
The organization was concerned about the workload the big three absorbed last year. Of the three, Andy is the guy you have to be concerned about the most.
The pen hasn’t gotten a lot of work this season either.
Mitre just needs to throw strikes.
Hope Andy is ok. I don’t believe in jinxes but since the SI cover with the core 4, first Jorge, then Mariano and now Andy
Give me a break, Stuckey.
I don’t see any way Joe would take Andy out this early just to preserve his arm for Boston….
Dammit!!!! Pettitte now???
This could be a tune-up game for Andy. Mitre should get innings in the event JV doesn’t show well in Detroit next week.
Andy did well with what he had to offer today. Why not give him some rest for the “old” arm?
Mitre’s ball is really sinking well.
Well I rather have Andy ready to go against the Sox then pitch his heart out against the O’s
pat -
Yes!!
But at first I thought it was a DP – I didn’t realize the pitcher had caught the ball on the fly. It was 1-6-3 Triple Play. (The “6″ might have been “4″)
If Pettitte’s hurt that leaves just Jeter as the only player left of the Core Four not affect by the SI curse ;p
I think they want Andy on standby dor Detroit or Boston series.
Pettitte was only at 77 pitches. They’re not just giving Andy a blow here.
Thinking good thoughts, though.
Pettitte’s not going to start in Boston. The Yanks have a fairly sizable lead, and, it’s a way to manage Pettitte’s innings over the long haul.
Oops, Detroit.
Jeremy, I did glance at the article – nothing but pure stupid.
no need to be worried about pettitte unless we hear something…we dont have to assume the worst every time
He’s probably under the weather.
Alright, Atkins didnt run!
Fran
UGH! NOOOO!!!
The Yankees have an off day tomorrow and Andy is not scheduled to pitch again until next Tuesday so something is up. Off tomorrow, Hughes in Boston Friday, CC Saturday, AJ Sunday, Javy on Monday in Detroit, then Andy.
I don’t believe in the SI jinx but if Andy was taken out for any reason other than they could, they need to bubble wrap Jeter between games please.
But after only 77 pitches? With half the game yet to be played? I don’t know – seems odd to me.
Tex’s friend -
I was thinking the same thing about Jeter! Even though I don’t believe in jinxes.
Anyone just love the opposing managers faces when the play the Yankees these days? They all look like they are in a daze.
Doreen-
How did Stoneburner’s stuff look? He’s had a very good start but it looks like he’s just pitching against players who aren’t adequate competition. Just wondering what he looked like.
Oh yeah you guys are right. Sorry about that he pitches against the Tigers not the Sox.
It gives Pettitte an extra day and a half of rest, since his next start isn’t until Tuesday.
especially knowing they have a short bullpen. I don’t see why they wouldn’t have squeezed another inning or two out of him. hopefully if something is up it’s precautionary and not serious
pat May 5th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I don?t believe in the SI jinx but if Andy was taken out for any reason other than they could, they need to bubble wrap Jeter between games please.
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Yes!!
Doreen
How exciting for you. From milb.com
“The BlueClaws best chance to tie came in the eighth. Domingo Santana led off the inning with a double and advanced to third on a Torre Langley base hit. Jonathan Villar then hit a grounder to reliever Ronny Marte, who threw to second for one out with a relay to first for two. Santana then tried to score from third but was gunned down by first baseman Luke Murton for a 1-6-3-2 triple play.”
especially knowing they have a short bullpen. I don’t see why they wouldn’t have squeezed another inning or two out of him *if they could have*. hopefully if something is up it’s precautionary and not serious
whoops.
Betsy
Yean that article was stupid. The Ny media loves it when something bad happens to the Yankees. It really is sick.
What the Yankees see in Michael Kay is a mystery to me. He gets worse and worse by the year. I loved Jim Kaat and do love Ken Singleton. I adore Paul O’Neill, from his playing days too.
However, I do think they could do better than Michael Kay, and that the Yankees should not renew his contract other than maybe to do interview show which he is pretty good at doing. For a team that is number 1 in so many ways, the broadcasters as of today are pretty bad.
I am not sitting at my desk freaking out about Andy right now. ( :I’m lying:)
NJ
I think everyone is reading way too much into this. Its a 39 year old starter whose endured a pretty heavy workload the past two seasons and who if things go well will be expected to pitch deep into October again this year.
With a 5 run lead even minus Joba and Mo I’m sure Joe is counting on Mitre, Logan, and D-Rob to be able to get 12 outs with blowing it. Its not too unreasonable to ask.
Hoping for the best. Andy threw 114 pitches vs. the Angels and then 97 vs. the White Sox so maybe Joe is giving him a rest. Why force the issue with a 5 run lead and the bullpen needing work. I don’t think there’s a reason to panic but Andy hasn’t looked great since the 114 pitch start a week and a half ago.
Jeremy
Yes!
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NICK!!!!!
whoa johnson with 2 hits in one game?
Great glove work my Montanez.
Go Nick !
Must be Nick’s stache.
Mitre induced 3 groundouts by Markakis, Tejada and Atkins
Winn lines out to RF
Jeter grounds out to 1st
Nick Johnson doubles to deep CF.
Any word on Pettitte?
Great glove work BY Montanez.
He’s not my Montanez; he’s ours.
Andy didn´t have his best stuff! That´s all! 5 nice Innings! and now Mitre for 4!
It ´s only Baltimore!
Tex flies out to CF
Top 7th. still 6-1
Nick Johnson is clearly tired of me talking trash about him.
Johnson has had a great game today. His best of the entire season. He’s been very aggressive about turning on pitches and driving them.
And of course he complemented that with two walks. But he drew those walks without his other at bats becoming overly passive.
This is the kind of impact the yanks were hoping Johnson could have in the two hole. He’s obviously not going to go 2-2 with a HR and double in every game and two walks. But this combination of patience and ability to drive the ball is very useful in the two spot between jeter and tex.
The reason why Kay is around, and Sterling and Suzyn Waldman is the same reason the Yanks are still the only team to do God Bless America during the 7th innning stretch, and it’s the Kate Smith version.
George Steinbrenner is a loyalist/traditionalist.
the stache seems to play for those walk a lot types. giambi and johnson. craziness.
CB -
I’m not real good at this, but once I saw them do a lot of swing and miss and fouling straight back, I looked for a radar reading. He was consistently 91-93 for the first 5 innings. It look like after that he was throwing more off-speed stuff, since radar showed around 80. Through the 5th he really was good. They couldn’t hit him. From where I was sitting he looked like he had an easy delivery, smooth and he worked quickly. They really couldn’t hit his fastball. He had some trouble with the breaking stuff – the 2 walks I think were when he was throwing more of those. I couldn’t tell movement from where I was sitting. The only batter who reached base in the 1st 5 innings was a leadoff error by the third baseman, and then a throwing error on the same play got him the hitter to third base. Stoneburner strike out the side after that to start the 7 in a row. Some k’s were looking, some were swinging.
I don’t know much about the Blue Claws. They didn’t look dangerous, but I don’t know if it was because of Stoneburner or not.
Marte came in in relief in the 8th and they got 2 quick hits off him – and then the triple play. In the 9th, Marte struck out 2 and then got a ground out to end the game.
(I didn’t expect a 9-inning game. I thought they only played 7.
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NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
I am not sitting at my desk freaking out about Andy right now. ( :I?m lying:)
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Wow. And I almost believed you up to that last part!
Try not to worry!
Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Any word on Pettitte?
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No, I haven’t seen anything come up yet. Just speculation
Laura – My Pretend Boyfriend plays for BAL May 5th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Nick Johnson is clearly tired of me talking trash about him.
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Its because when someone asked how to get him going, I answered
“Put him in a car and take him to the airport”
Heads up play by Winn there.
I hope that’s all it is; Joe rests his regular players even if it means having a weaker lineup, so I suppose it’s possible he’s doing that with Andy.
6-1 vs the orioles is basically a blowout. maybe girardi didnt want to risk andy getting hurt like posada and rivera.
“especially knowing they have a short bullpen”
When’s the last time anyone out there pitched? Hughes went 7 on Sunday and Melancon mopped up. CC went 8 on Monday, Joba closed. And AJ went 7.1 yesterday and Marte and Aceves got one out each and Joba closed it out. So Mitre, Robertson, Mariano, Logan haven’t thrown at all since Saturday or longer and the other guys other than Joba have hard worked at all.
The very fact that Pettitte wasn’t removed in the 5th by default minimizes whatever the issue might be.
I suspect it wasn’t due to just rest, and would give the best odds to simply not feeling well, but it could be a “twinge” of some kind.
I think some need to calm down. Andy will be fine. I think some people are concerned becuase of the recent injuries but I think Andy is fine.
the stache seems to play for those walk a lot types. giambi and johnson. craziness.
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Boggs, Tom Selleck in Mr Baseball
ever since pete has left this blog has taken a definite turn for the worse. i don’t remember pete taking this many days off, and this guy filling in is doing terrible. Chad AND Sam both have days off today and this past weekend!? Get it together
YES!!!!
DP!!!!!!!!!!!
Is that 4 DP’s ?
Anyone getting tire of all these Yankee DP’s to end the inning? I’m not
I guess Stonbrunner projects as a reliever – that’s what I’ve heard; I wouldn’t mind more guys projecting as starters.
Boston Dave-
If you are out there-
I REALLY hate Adam Lind and the Cleveland bullpen right now.
That was doublely brutal
stuckey May 5th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
The very fact that Pettitte wasn?t removed in the 5th by default minimizes whatever the issue might be.
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That’s what I’m thinking too
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 5th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
I am not sitting at my desk freaking out about Andy right now. ( :I?m lying:)
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Wow. And I almost believed you up to that last part!
Try not to worry!
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I’m trying lol. And I don’t believe in this SI jinx stuff but ya gotta admit that this is getting freaky…
“Its because when someone asked how to get him going, I answered
?Put him in a car and take him to the airport?
I’m sure that did it.
Is that 4 DP’s ? Wow ! Ground ball Mitre !
Ummm, don’t look now, but Sergio Mitre doesn’t look half-bad.
Cervelli saved Jeter an error by backing up that play.
how many innings will mitre pitch? at least one more, i would think
Thanks Doreen. That’s good to hear.
I was surprised to see that the yankees were able to sign Stonburner last year. He was a draft eligible sophomore who didn’t have a great year. He seemed like a guy who would go back to school.
But he’s very talented with a very good arm and they offered him enough money to get him to sign.
They did that with a couple of promising college arms last year. It worked out very nicely for them as a strategy.
If you’re worried about Pettitte, you’re right to be — I read it on LoHud.
Mitre threw, what, 5 pitches that inning? I think the O’s just left the game.
stuckey May 5th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Ummm, don?t look now, but Sergio Mitre doesn?t look half-bad.
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What is his current ranking on the death-era watch?
stuckey
You’re right George is a loyalist/traditionalist.
Wieters flies out to LF
Reimold with an infield single to Jeter.
Tatum hits into a 6-4-3 DP . That’s # 4.
Mitre’s thrown 19 pitches over 2 innings and his ERA is now .96 !!!!!!!!
Champagne and caviar for all!!!!
Mitre’s doing a nice job thus far….
Jeremy May 5th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
stuckey
You?re right George is a loyalist/traditionalist.
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Even George Costanza had trouble getting fired!
Is this a possible preemptive move to stretch out Meat Tray in case Javy Blows up in Mo Town???
NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I?m trying lol. And I don?t believe in this SI jinx stuff but ya gotta admit that this is getting freaky?
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I don’t believe in it either-but if anything happens to Andy and Jeter, I think it’ll make me a believer. lol
Betsy -
I don’t know what he projects as but he was able to maintain good velocity and stay fairly sharp through 7 innings. Only one inning gave him trouble – 2 walks – but he got a DP.
Stuckey,
I like the fact that George is a loyal, traditionalist. I like Kate Smith; maybe because I remember her. I don’t mind John Sterling and Suzyn Waldman; it is Michael Kay who is awful because he doesn’t let the color guy get a word in edgewise. Sometimes they know what they are talking about. David Cone didn’t just leave the Yankees. I am sure Kay had something to do with it.
Maby Pettitte got tased for running out on the field?
Or maybe pettitte is a secret poster here on Lohud and got blog tased for rash impropriety?
Sergio is making a mockery of the Mitre Death-Watch 6.00 game.
I bet Andy has a case of the Chan Ho Park’s…seriously though, why push it in a laugher on a hot day against the worst team in the AL?
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I guess Stonbrunner projects as a reliever – that’s what I’ve heard; I wouldn’t mind more guys projecting as starters
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This is 50/50. he has a very good arm but he needs to develop a 3rd pitch. As we’ve seen with Hughes, it can be done. If he does it, he’ll be a legit starter. If he doesnt, a very good pen guy.
Don’t underestimate how important pen guys are though. When you can develop a young homegrown pen it save the team a ton of money. No more Farnsworth’s or Marte’s, etc…
A-rod’s due for a homer here.
Oops.
Ledger_Yankees I think AP could be hurt. But he also wasn’t sharp so pulling him early to be safe isn’t a bad idea. Ultimately, I don’t know why he’s out
CB, lol………
Doreen, thanks for the great update! I read Pinstripes Plus and I’ve read a lot about Stoneburner (I think I spelled it right this time). Apparently he projects as a reliever, probably because of the stuff you described – issues with breaking pitches. He’s very highly regarded, though.
Seems like both teams are mailing these later innings in…
BloggingBombers No word on Pettitte. Considering he threw only 77 pitches – and was supposed to get an extra day before his next start – it may not be good.
Seems like both teams are mailing these later innings in…
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thinking the same thing….
George has always had room for loyal former players somewhere in the Organization. That is something you rarely find in any kind of company sports or otherwise.
Maybe Dallas Braden got revenge on Andy for being around his mound!
Some really bad at bats by NYY in the last couple of innings. almost like both teams have lost interest.
That’s what BloggingBombers wants it to be.
I like ADam’s idea best.
Willie Ohman. Sounds familiar. Death of a Salesman?
CC, I don’t think Stoneburner is Phil, though. Phil was projected as a #1 starter…..Also, I believe Phil had a third pitch, but his injuries and subsequent rehabs never really let him develop them. No, I’m not getting defensive about Phil, lol – just saying that Phil’s injuries set him back quite a bit.
My question is: if relievers are considered fungible because they are so inconsistent, then how talented can some of these arms that project as relievers be? When they get to the majors, they’ll blow hot and cold, correct?
CB -
You’re welcome.
He certainly looked like someone to watch.
It really as a good game. I’m glad I went. Higashioka caught today. But as I said, no one stood out offensively today.
The Blue Claws threw someone by the name of Nicholas Hernandez, a lefty who looked like he threw mostly off-speed stuff (as I said, I’m not good at that kind of thing) – if he threw a fastball at all it was 88 mph at most.
Ok none of the beat writers are making me feel optimistic right now
Erica…you really are funny (compliment)
Mitre is looking pretty darn good this year. Any chance the Yankees dump Vazquez in a deal for a couple of prospects? Send him back to a contending team that could use another starter. L.A. maybe? Mitre could easily slot in as the 5th starter the rest of the year with the way he has been throwing his sinker.
NYY626
Dont let the beat writers get you down. They are only speculating what they want to happen. They want to see the Yankees fail or suffer injuries.
The yanks are not the only team to play GBA during the 7th inning. The Dodgers for one. If it bothers you, turn the sound off.
Mitre is looking pretty darn good this year. Any chance the Yankees dump Vazquez in a deal for a couple of prospects? Send him back to a contending team that could use another starter. L.A. maybe? Mitre could easily slot in as the 5th starter the rest of the year with the way he has been throwing his sinker.
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Aceves too but i doubt they are trading javy anywhere.
GB7-
Agreed. Some of the at bats since they last scored have been awful. On both sides. This game has taken on that get away day feeling to it.
Cano didn’t have his best game today. As you said, he looked out of sync at the plate today. No big deal. It happens. Just a strange game from him at the plate. He kind of veered between swinging too agressively e.g. that 2-2 slider he struck out on then becoming too passive in response.
He also hasn’t had a great series. I don’t believe he’s had a single day off. Maybe he could use a blow?
[quote]Dont let the beat writers get you down. They are only speculating what they want to happen. They want to see the Yankees fail or suffer injuries.[/quote]
That’s ridiculous.
So we would just give up on Javy after a few starts? That wouldn’t reflect well on the Yankees.
Neither one of this schnooks were right.
It’s a Til Day
If Vazquez demanded the ball against the Sox do you think Girardi would have given it to him? You’d think someone trying to shed the softy tag would do such a thing, no?
Now why is Carig tweeting that junk? If you don’t know, as a journalist you should not speculate. Basically he said he’s either hurt or he’s not. What a waste of energy.
NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Ok none of the beat writers are making me feel optimistic right now
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Me either-but they are just guessing.
I’m still hopeful it’s nothing.
In his latest article, Jim Callis ranks the best draft picks from the 1st 25 rounds over the past 5 years. The Yanks “won” 3 of the rounds. Joba for the sandwich round. Ajax for the 8th round. And Stoneburner for the 14th round.
I’ve tried copying and pasting a paragraph from RAB a couple of times since yesterday, but it keeps getting eaten. So this time I typed it myself, lets see if it works.
…as ridiculous as my html, apparently.
TheYankees are usually very good about not giving away at bats; I think that’s not a good precedent to set……
If there’s no update during the game, my guess is he’s fine. When there is injury that’s when you hear updates.
SAS May 5th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Erica?you really are funny (compliment)
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Thank you
im thinking cano may need a day off too, at least 1/2 day off. but now that nj is hitting, you dont want to sit him. when cano was hot, would have been wrong to sit him, but not he may benefit from the day off (although they do have off tomorrow).
Arod grounds out to 1st
Cano grounds out 4-3
Swish walks
Grdner grounds out 6-4 forcing out Swish at 2nd
top 8th/ 6-1 Yanks.
Yanks looking at their 2nd home sweep here. 1st one was Texas
Maybe Andy Pettitte just wanted to get a good jump on his Cinco de Mayo Celebrations!!!!
Elizabeth
lol
Believe me, the beat writers dont care if the Yanks make the World Series or not. As long as there is controversy and the Bronx Zoo is in session all year, that’s all they care about.
Trevor May 5th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
If there?s no update during the game, my guess is he?s fine. When there is injury that?s when you hear updates.
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That’s why I’m hopeful!
Doreen, earlier Carig decided that the Yankees SP should only get partial credit for holding the O’s down. This, on top of his snarky tweet about Alex and these speculative tweets are making me wonder about him.
CB -
I was sure Cano was going to get a rest today.
tex’s friend May 5th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
im thinking cano may need a day off too, at least 1/2 day off.
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He probably does-he’s played in every single game IIRC.
likely a double play coming.
If Vazquez demanded the ball against the Sox do you think Girardi would have given it to him? You’d think someone trying to shed the softy tag would do such a thing, no?
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Hard to bash Javy for not DEMANDING the ball. He’s new here, these are the reigning champs and he knows the fans can’t stand him. I respect him for not trying to make waves. The team is 10 games over (soon to be 11) and Javy’s really the only issue with the team right now. So I don’t blame him. But I hope he doesn’t think the Tigers will be any easier to deal with. Right now Detroit poses more of an (“offensive”) threat than the Sawx do.
i hope we aren’t looking at a SI curse, rivera, posada and possibly pettitte hurt in one week
Betsy,
I wasnt comparing him to Phil. Just using Hughes as an example of someone who picked up a 3rd pitch. it happens all the time.
Yes, relievers blow hot and cold from year to year. We’ve seen that first hand for the past few years. that’s why it’s good to have a bunch of young power arms. When one craps out you replace him with another cheap inexpensive arm. You dont want to pay a guy 3 mil to stink.
CR9,
Beat writers also (by and large, I would think, though I’m sure there are bad apples) don’t wish for injuries. Nowhere in my comment did I say that they root for the team they cover. In fact, the SWB beat writer is a Boston fan. But to claim they have an ulterior motive is ridiculous.
now its a save situation
tex’s friend May 5th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
im thinking cano may need a day off too, at least 1/2 day off.
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He probably does-he’s played in every single game IIRC.
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They do have the off day tomorrow so hopefully that is all he needs.
“Believe me, the beat writers dont care if the Yanks make the World Series or not. As long as there is controversy and the Bronx Zoo is in session all year, that’s all they care about.”
You really believe that? You’re way too paranoid about everything in general.
“im thinking cano may need a day off too, at least 1/2 day off.”
All 25 guys get a day and a 1/2 off before their next game…
well the Meat Tray just served one up on a silver platter.
Ick.
When I was listening to the game on radio earlier there was a lot of energy at the Stadium. It’s gone now. It is hot out there, believe me.
Julio Lugo gets them a run. I think his 3rd hit of the game. What a joke Lugo is.
He had an opportunity to win a game against the Sox the other day off Papelbon, and he went swinging into the night.
Ledger_Yankees RT @PhilipJWalsh: @Ledger_Yankees But he’s been getting his vets extra rest lately and the game was well in hand. // also a possibility
So much for Mitre looking good. Get Mo ready for the ninth I guess.
Suzyn just said that Damarso is warming up. Did you guys catch that article on him at RAB? Talking about the uneasiness felt when he comes into the game. I’m glad that someone finally articulated what I’ve been feeling.
:grrr: @ Wiggington.
Montanez flies out to CF
Lugo gets his 3rd single of the day.
Wiggy takes Mitre yard. 6-3 Yanks
Mitre sub 1.00 ERA lasts 2 batters. Now at 2.79
Here comes Marte to face pretty boy. Put the brooms down for a moment here.
Kay didn’t even call that homerun. This game seems so boring that their seems to be a lack of emotion from the players, announcers, and fans.
But the game is close now so it should be more interesting.
CC, I know you weren’t…..
I agree about the relievers. Well, Stoneburner looks talented no matter what, so I’ll be following him with interest.
They’ll all get a day tomorrow, but I guess Joe didn’t sit Cano because he was the only one hitting.
Betsy -
They guy is Twitter-happy. I’m telling you, not everyone should be allowed to tweet.
I must have missed something along the way-why does Carig keep referring to Mitre as “The Experience”?
Too bad. It’s now a game. Time for Marte to start getting settled in with Markakis. A DP would be perfect. That would leave Tejada for Robertson. Those two are key pitchers for NYY this year out of the bullpen.
This game was going along so nicely…….
cr9 is off the meds again
Has anyone listened once to Michael Kay?
The guy does not care about anything but his own ego. He doesnt care about the Yankees in the least. He just wants to spew his garbage. Does anyone think he had any rough night’s sleep from 2001 to 2008? No, of course he didnt. He wanted to collect his paychecks, and act like an arrogant tool.
He’s no Orsillo/Remy.
Doreen-
Chareleston doesn’t have a lot of position player talent. The yankees kept their first two picks from the 2009 draft in extended spring training and their top prospect from the GCL last year Kevin Deleon in extended spring training as well.
The really interesting story on the blue claws was the kid hitting third for them – Anthony Hewitt.
Hewitt was taken I think 23rd in the first round two years ago. Very controversial guy in terms of how teams evaluated his talent.
He has been very bad since he was drafted. What makes him interesting is that he was perhaps the most physicially gifted player to enter a draft the past few seasons. He was considered to have 80 power, 80 speed, and an 80 arm. People were comparing him to Bo Jackson. He was hitting 450 foot home runs as a high schooler.
But he was also very raw and it was difficult to project whether he would be able to hit and make contact. So far he just hasn’t been able to much at all.
But that’s the Phils draft philosophy. They like to draft athletes who might be raw and hope that some of them might pan out.
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 5th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Maybe Andy Pettitte just wanted to get a good jump on his Cinco de Mayo Celebrations!!!!
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Hmmm now theres a happy thought. I wouldnt mind doing some tequilla shots with Andy
( how hilarious would that be? I could see Andy saying, “well y’all I battled and tried to do as many as I could but those shots were gross thats for sure”)
Nice job, Marte.
Anyone else warming? I don’t know why he loves to mix and match so much. Girardi can drive you crazy with the righty/lefty stuff.
great sequence of pitches by Marte.
Well, I guess Joe wants all his relievers to get work in before Boston? Maybe so they’re not stale?
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5165306
Joe loves the matchups. Well to be nonest the majority of managers like the matchups.
Should be interesting since Joba and Mo are unavailable. Will Robertson blow up again ? I hope not.
Yankees odds of winning this game never got lower than 95% this inning.
This game isn’t as close as some of you perceive.
Joelsherman1 Wigginton HR made it 6-3, now save situation. No Joba today, want to stay away from Mo. What does Girardi do in 9th? My gut: Aceves
NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Erica ? always OPPC ? Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 5th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Maybe Andy Pettitte just wanted to get a good jump on his Cinco de Mayo Celebrations!!!!
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Hmmm now theres a happy thought. I wouldnt mind doing some tequilla shots with Andy
( how hilarious would that be? I could see Andy saying, ?well y?all I battled and tried to do as many as I could but those shots were gross thats for sure?)
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LOL- see happy thoughts!
And yes, that sounds so Andy.
We should definitely start using “y’all”more on his start days. Y’all understand?
I’ll pitch the 9th!!!!!
You’ll have to pry my twitter from my cold dead hands — and in under 140 characters.
Robertson for 5 easy outs, please.
The only thing irritating about that HR is that it brings Rivera into equation. I’d rather not use Rivera if possible.
Marte got Markakis swinging on a sweeping slider.
pitching change for Tejada. Robertson?
Don’t worry, the Yankees will score 2 runs in the 8th.
CR9
Michael Kay /=/ beat writers. And yet, it’s difficult to make a judgement like that even on someone as high-profile as Kay, unless he makes comments that imply that. As annoying as he is, Kay is more animated than probably 90% of the baseball broadcasters out there (and, believe me, I watch a lot of out-of-market baseball).
Robertson needs to get an out here.
Cr9
I thought you said that you didn’t like Orsillo so why would you want Kay to be more like him. That doesn’t make any sense !
Y’all when Andy starts, all PH words (like phries, phantastic) when Phil pitches…….all AJ words when AJ pitches?
WHere was that pitch???
-honest
“The only thing irritating about that HR is that it brings Rivera into equation. I’d rather not use Rivera if possible.”
it only brings Rivera into the equation if Girardi plays to the save stat, instead of the game being played.
Sounds like something is wrong with Buccholz too.
He is being shown as “probable” in his start against the Yankees with the really sad medical symbol
Oops. make that 4 easy and now 3 easy outs.
stuckey – watching this? http://www.fangraphs.com/livew.....eason=2010
Nick in SF May 5th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
You?ll have to pry my twitter from my cold dead hands ? and in under 140 characters.
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It’ll be easier to pry if we taser you!
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 5th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
We should definitely start using ?y?all?more on his start days. Y?all understand?
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I like it y’all!
It would be nice to get Robertson going again before Boston…
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Yeah, Hewitt certainly didn’t stand out today. He’s the one who got on via an error, but he did run all the way to 3rd on the errant throw to first (two errors on one play). He then struck out and fouled out to the catcher.
Betsy – can you give me some examples of an AJ word?? Im stumped lol
Robertson falls behind Tejada 2-0 then gets him to fly out to deep RF.
Bottom 8th/ 6-3 Yanks
Robertson for the 9th?
Jeremy
I dont like Remy/Orsillo.
The main reason why is, because they cheer for their team, and even more sickening, they cheer for other Boston teams (Celtics, Bruins, Pats).
While I do not like them for it, I respect them, because they actually care about the team they cover, and even the teams they dont cover.
I just want Michael Kay to CARE about the Yankees, instead of his own ego and fat head.
Just let Robertson pitch the 9th.
Erica, I believe Clay hurt himself slightly in the Angel game, but I’m not sure how…..
robertson’s era is 12? Man that granny to abreu will haunt his stats for a while.
CR9
Why are you attacking Kay ? He isn’t perfect but he is not bad. The guy is a Yankee fan he just doesn’t like to show bias. If you want bias and BS you have watch NESN and ESPN.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Y?all when Andy starts, all PH words (like phries, phantastic) when Phil pitches??.all AJ words when AJ pitches?
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I am cool with that, but what’s an AJ word?? LOL
Do you mean only words that start with AJ (I can’t think of any) or stick an AJ where it doesn’t belong. Like, “that was a ajwonderful pitch”
“stuckey – watching this? http://www.fangraphs.com/livew…..eason=2010
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Nah, I do the math in my head..
AJ is too close to AH on my keyboard.
NYY, I have to think of one, lol -Ajunct?
NYY626 May 5th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Betsy ? can you give me some examples of an AJ word?? Im stumped lol
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So glad to see you post that. I was feeling really dumb. LOL
Erica,
Where are you seeing this sad medical symbol and what does it look like? Damon’s left calf? I tase, I tase.
Erica, he took a liner off the leg in his last start.
Scary pitch. NYYs have finally found out how to get Tejada out this year. It’s only taken 13 years.
I hope the Yanks face Wakefield if Clay can’t go. Be nice to have some batting practice.
lol stuckey, that would be REALLY impressive
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
NYY, I have to think of one, lol -Ajunct?
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That would be Adjunct.
Or Adjective.
I say we stick AJs where they don’t belong. We’ll be rebels
Erica, I didn’t put much thought into it, lol……well, AJ likes the word “gangster”, so I will honor him on those days by working that into my conversation. Gangster, hook – AJ has a cool vocabulary.
Sterling & Suzyn spend half the later innings trying to figure out who’s coming in for whom based on movement in the bullpen.
Righty Alfredo SEE-Moan to face Cervelli- Winn – Jeter.
No one warming in the Yanks pen yet.
Cervelli flies out to RF
The play earlier today where Nick Johnson was thrown out at the plate, should he have gone? Was it a good throw?
I’m wondering if they’d have been better off that inning if he stayed at third – then the bases are still loaded, none out and Robi coming up to bat. I’m sure that was speculated on here.
So, I wondered was it as close a play as it sounded on radio?
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
NYY, I have to think of one, lol -Ajunct?
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LOL i think AJ words may be too complicated. How about we all just start saying “man” a lot. You know what I mean man?
Oh for pete’s sake – and I’m a very good speller, too.
m May 5th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Erica,
Where are you seeing this sad medical symbol and what does it look like? Damon?s left calf? I tase, I tase.
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On the scoring page for Erica’s Avengers. It looks like half my fantasy team went to the infirmary.
I have Posada, Damon, and Buccholz. I should just forfeit this week
GB7 – yeah the trick was to get rid of mussina, who he batted .389/.443/.685 off
Jeremy
He just does not strike me as a real Yankees fan. Im only on him now because I got 5 glorious months off from listening to him, and it generally takes me the first 2 months of a new season to perfect tuning him out.
LOL he does say “man” a lot, doesn’t he?
CR9
I rather have a good announcer than a shill who spouts talking points. He really isn’t negative about the Yankees.
I am listening on the radio. Suzyn says Robertson is closing but honestly they are so hard to listen to.
If you want biased commentary go listen to those fools of the White Sox.
watch jeter bunt here
BloggingBombers That foul ball nearly decapitated long-time official scorer Bill Shannon. He seems to be okay.
guess winn hasnt checked out.
Winn singles on a hard grounder to RF. Good steal situation here.
who is keeping a glossary of the cliches and words each player uses in post game interviews?
Swisher= Awesome?
Dassit May 5th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
If you want biased commentary go listen to those fools of the White Sox.
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worst. broadcast. ever.
Jeremy
He is certainly not negative about the Yankees. I didnt say or imply that
He is just unprofessional. He may be unbiased, but he still lacks professionalism.
The booth is so much better on the West Coast, when he does not travel with the team.
And Winn steals 2nd.
worst. broadcast. ever.
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YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOAAARRRDDD YES!
HE GONE
ALEXEI ALEXEIIII YES!
Erin – the fools in Arizona would like their chance to show up the WhiteSox…
Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
And Winn steals 2nd.
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Good. Now tell Randy Winn to give me money!
CR9
I understand the points you are making but I don’t think that Kay is really that bad. I rather have him then Orsillo who acts like every little thing the Sox do during a game is like winning the World Series.
Erica,
LOL. I was just picturing this: http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs.....mr-yuk.gif
# Erin May 5th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Dassit May 5th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
If you want biased commentary go listen to those fools of the White Sox.
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worst. broadcast. ever.
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeas. youuuuuuuu can put that one on the boaaaaaaard.
save gone.
woe is orioles
Calgon Take me away!
This game is pretty boring.
tex and johnson are in a battle for lineup futility. nj making it interesting.
Good guys 7
Bad guys 3
How did the orioles sweep the Sox? This team can’t hit and they can’t field.
What happened?
Cr9
I will give you that. He is not really professional. And he complains a lot.
m May 5th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Erica,
LOL. I was just picturing this: http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs…..mr-yuk.gif
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That really made me laugh loudly at my desk
Jeremy
I respect your opinions, and you’re probably right. He’s probably not that bad.
In another month, I’ll be immune to him anyway!
He really got me today, though, with his comment about payment for being good luck for Swisher. That really annoyed me.
Hawk is the worst I’ve ever heard.
isn’t there a website devoted to having him fired?
Oops, nevermind.
Whoo Hoo. Johnson 3 for 3. Up to .171!
I’m so glad he’s snapping out of his funk. But that just illustrates how bad it was.
My former coach would’ve said: Put a glove on that foot!
Trevor
Did you hear. The Yankees are boring now. The Daily News had a article about them winning too much and lacking drama.
have to agree. the white sox broadcasts are unbearable. kay is ernie harwell compared to the hawk.
“I’m so glad he’s snapping out of his funk. But that just illustrates how bad it was.”
And how good this team is…
Irreverent Discourse May 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Erin ? the fools in Arizona would like their chance to show up the WhiteSox?
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really? I didn’t think it was possible to be worse than Hawk.
He gone.
Simon strikes out Jeter on a couple of nice change-ups
Johnson hits a grounder up the middle, Wiggy kicks it into CF, Winn scores.
Tex reaches on an groundball error to 1st. Johnson to 2nd.
Johnson average is up to .171
It’s a race to .200 for him and Tex!
A-Rod grounds out 6-4 forcing Tex at 2nd
Top 9th / 7-3 Yanks
alex alex alex….. what is going on with you?
“I’m so glad he’s snapping out of his funk. But that just illustrates how bad it was.”
Johnson is going to be able to bring his batting average up fairly quickly. He just doesn’t have that many at bats because so many of his plate appearances have become walks.
Tex on the other hand… he’s going to have a real climb ahead of him unless he just starts getting scorching hot.
Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Hawk is the worst I?ve ever heard.
isn?t there a website devoted to having him fired?
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It wouldn’t surprise me.
Most of the White Sox fans I know can’t stand the guy.
Still no word on Pettite?
I think Kay gets goofier when Leiter’s in the booth because he and Leiter are such good friends.
Hawk worked Yankee games in the 80s….
Perfect time to try and get Dave straightened out.
everytime i hear ‘he gone’ i want to put a shoe threw my television.
Yeah Hawk Harrelson is really bad “Stretch, Stretch, there goes the long ball, you can put on the board yes !!!” LMAO !
Rivera has appeared in 9 innings in 26 games. Soreness or not, he needs to pitch. I don’t want him having not thrown in a week going into a series against the Red Sox. Give the man some work, especially the day before an off-day.
JohnC May 5th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Still no word on Pettite?
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No, which is why I’m thinking it’s nothing.
Because he walks so much, Johnson is still only at 70 ab’s after his 3 hits today. If he gets hot for a week he’ll be up to his normal .280
Fran,
lol, you listening? Suzyn’s on the job. Off to find out what the deal with Pettitte is. I wonder if she’s wearing her Sherlock outfit.
Another well struck ball by Atkins. He must have graduated from Brian Roberts University magna cum laude!
tex’s friend May 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
everytime i hear ?he gone? i want to put a shoe threw my television.
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I agree!
and “can o’corn”
It’s going to take a lot of work for Nick to get that average back up, but it really only matters what he does from here on out…….nice to see him have a big day.
“Tex on the other hand… he’s going to have a real climb ahead of him unless he just starts getting scorching hot.”
But given the Yankees record, it really doesn’t matter. If he plays well for the rest of the way and still finishes with below average numbers, that’s perfectly fine.
Ducksnort. wtmfh is that?
Irreverent Discourse,
Are you from Arizona, because the sports guy on NBC news is the worst ever.
the radio is too laude
I remember when he called the perfect game last year on the final out and he was screaming YES, YES, YES, YES ! like several times. You would think the guy was having sex.
Betsy–exactly. Same with Teixeira. If they produce good results from here on out, it doesn’t matter how long it takes the avg to climb.
ha… robertson’s still got it.
What about “let’s take this baby to the 7th”
And Kay cant pronounce Fifth or Sixth. He says Fift and Sixt, without the “h”
Good point about NJ and the walks….well, my comment applies to Tex as well. He may have to understand that he’s not going to hit for a great average this year….
Bear down, D-rob.
has drob given up more homeruns than any of the 4 starters?
Happy belated Dodenherdenking, Meppie.
And happy Bevrijdingsdag today!
I loved the term “ducksnort”. I used to call Claudell WAshington that (I give Hawk the credit, though).
Robertson really needs to start pitching better.
Also, as an announcer, he should have heard of something called diction.
But he doesnt even try to pronounce players’ names correctly.
He called Ramiro Pena yesterday, Ranero…
Robertson still in.
Atkins flies out to CF
Wieters whacks one . Monster shot into the 2nd deck in RF
7-4 Yanks.
I remember when he called the perfect game last year on the final out and he was screaming YES, YES, YES, YES ! like several times. You would think the guy was having sex.
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Or that it was the first perfect game in history.
Robertson is a mess !
no f-ing way
wth is wrong with this guy?
Better a HR than a walk, but I’m not feeling great about Robertson.
Boone Logan meet Logan Square
Get Tyler Clippard back !
Update, 3:50: It’s no longer a save situation with Johnson’s RBI single in the eighth. David Robertson got the final out of the eighth and will start the ninth.
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Pretty sure it remains a save for Robertson if he can close it out because he began pitching when it was a save situation.
Can robertson be sent down? No velocity, no control, no nothing.
Robertson seems to be pitching behind a lot.
7-5. This is getting frustrating. Let Mo come in an end this already.
I’d let Aceves close this game out.
Makes you appreciate Mariano doesn’t it? Girardi better not blow this game by short changing us on quality relievers. Indeed.
Man, from hero to dud in such a short time. What happened?
now Joe knows D Rob can’t be trusted yet, hope he comes around
There is obviously something wrong with Dave’s mechanics.
His pitches are sailing thirty feet high. He seems to have lost control.
The orioles are sitting fastball figuring Roberstson doesn’t want to walk anyone and then Robertson is missing his spot.
Not a good combination.
His command has been off this whole year.
robertson is doing his part to deflect some attention off of javy vazquez.
DROB is now DGONE! Man I like Robertson but every time he gives up homeruns this year! Sophmore slump????
DRob
Hurry and end this game so we can know if Andy is okay!
Can we please never use Dave Robertson ever, ever again? Seriously, he’s awful.
Marte and Robertson can do whatever they want in the regular saison! If they play in the postseason like in 09 I love them!
For God’s sake, stop babying Rivera. He declared himself fit to pitch, and he hasn’t been on the mound in a week. Give the dude some work.
This is getting too close for comfort….This pen is just not that good right now.
I think it’s safe to say Robertson is now officially a problem.
Let’s hope Logan can get the job done. If he does, move him ahead of Robertson in the pecking order.
Hopefully Park is back soon because they can’t keep running Robertson out there at this point.
Uh oh, the multiple-ID trolls are running…
Now Reimold homers off the LF foul pole.
Robertson is toast.
O’s pinch hit for Tatum. Lefty hitting Rhyne Hughes in. Here comes Boone Logan.
1 out / top 9th/ 7-5 Yanks
Mechanical problems with D-Rob? He’s going to have to be sent down – we can’t keep sending him out there to get clobbered.
oh oh this is getting tight
I see the game suddenly got interesting again.
Cheap strike for us on 2-0.
I dont understand why he cant throw strike either.
Can Logan get righties out? Can he pitch more than 1 inning at a time?
Robertson is just slumping a bit, relax.
Robertson needs to get sent down, he’s a complete mess. Bring Melancon in to fill in the back of the bullpen until Park can come off of the DL.
Robertson’s out pitch is usually his curve ball. He threw 18 pitches and only 1 curve.
I understand wanting to be agressive up 4 runs but you can’t become predictable unless you are going to be precise with your location and have a lot of life on the fastball.
D-Rob needs AAA help, he’s better than this.
Logan’s got some raw heat, pls locate.
Robertson’s not awful. He’s pitching awful.
Girardi said he’s not repeating his delivery. Plenty of time to figure it out.
I’m having a hard time believing any reasonable purpose believes the Yankees have a good chance of losing this game…
Mo is no baby. He pitched a bullpen yesterday and felt good. Logan is a scrub with a career ERA 5.73 and a career whip of 1.73.
where is Aceves
The idiot walked him.
He threw 6 pitches in the AtBat, and 5 of them were balls.
UNACCEPTABLE, when the guy is not the tying run.
oh boy
The Yankees built their bullpen around Phil Hughes and Mo last year.
D-Rob’s ineffectiveness is not a big deal. These type of things are to be expected with the volatility of bullpens from year to year. One of the reasons the Park signing was so good because you can never have enough quality arms out there.
Joba has looked good recently, Mo is Mo, Aceves has look good, and Park will be back soon. Those 4 guys alone make their BP better than pretty much everyone else.
1 more out.
Who is going to trust Melancon to take Robertson’s spot? I don’t………
one more out
Stuckey-the tieing run is at the plate. I would much rather see Aceves in there.
Two out
nice job Girardi! Players could be on shower about 15 min ago…
Good play in center by Gardy. Just gotta get one more.
LOL @ people screaming for Robertson to pitch the 8th in a high leverage situation with a 9 era at the time instead of Joba.
Robertson is not going to AAA. Man some of you people are so reactionary. Just relax, pitchers go through slumps, it happens
Yeah Robertson is looking like the first BP guy to get shipped out.
Anybody know of anybody that is pitching well enough to help besides Melancon?
Logan walks Hughes
Montanez flies out to CF.
It’s pesky Lugo for all the marbles.
Hughes takes 2nd on DI.
Mel,
LOL. Just picturing Suzyn with her cap and magnifying glass
BTW nice job by the Lakers last night.
Lets go BOONE!
Come on ! Lets end it here
But Robertson looked legitimately talented, not some crappy arm……. the Yanks need to figure him out because he was counted on to be a huge part of the pen.
Don’t get the babying of Joba. If he’s going to be a reliever then he needs to pitch and pitch regularly. Pitching 1 inning 3 days in a row shouldn’t be a big deal.
BloggingBombers The last time the Yankees had three saves in a row by pitchers other than Rivera? Sept. 23, 27 and 29, 2008 (Joba, Veras, Veras)
I like this Logan kid.
Fran (the original) May 5th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Hello Fran! I personally like Suzyn & Sterling. They provide interesting info. Sure they are biased and sometimes wrong, but I can take that. Sterling sometimes seems isolated or confused, but I enjoy it.
RETA CONO!
“Robertson is just slumping a bit, relax”
At this point it feels like a little more than a slump. He might be morphing into Jose Veras/Edwar Ramirez.
And for all the good that Melancon did at Triple A last year and this year, he came up and got bombed on Sunday, albeit by a hot hitter in Paul Konerko. Melancon probably should still be up and Robertson should go down to get straightened out.
GC-I agree with you. These guys get treated with kid gloves way too much.
Robertson’s K:BB is 4, which is great and double last year.
Too bad he doubled his H/9 to 17.5 and his HR/9 to 1.6 (worse now) to go with it.
If Park is back in a week-10 days, they are fine.
Melancon isn’t an option. He’s no better than Robertson at this point.
I can’t believe this….
Figures that when Mo is unavailable the Yankees need three saves in a row.
They’re not booing, they’re saying — wait, hold that thought.
Logan too often gets ahead of hitters and then falls into this predictable pattern of trying to get hitters to swing at pitches off the plate.
Just throw a strike.
Markakis is on deck.
jees louise
Just put Mo in. Off-day tomorrow. Hasn’t pitched in a game in a week. Stop messing around. 10 pitches ain’t gonna kill him.
Sterling: “This is a world without Mariano, and it’s not great to contemplate, is it?”
Wow…….pathetic.
How do you walk Lugo from an 0-2 count?
and a walk ……..
is this a joke?
96 97 mph FB + LHP and we can’t use this to SV a game?
I dont believe it.
The idiot just walked 2 batters, one of them being Julio Lugo, whom he had at 0-2.
SICK!
terrible job by the pen today…1 more out please!
That was pathetic. You get the hitter down in the count with 2 strikes and then walk him.
Fran,
I was thinking pipe.
That was a good game, got a little too exciting. But @ Utah’s a tough gig, so we really needed him.
Logan
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Up 0-2, and you walk JULIO LUGO on FOUR PITCHES.
::faceplam::
This is ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason that the friggin’ Orioles should be allowed to hang around like this.
All the wrong moves, Joe. There’s one person to put into this game.
would have bought Aceves in before Logan walked the ballpark, hopefully he can get out of this…
* needed it.
Girardi better not blow this. Bring in Joba for one batter Girardi.
and Lugo walks after being 0-2. Jesus Mary and Joseph.
You also gotta consider the effect on Joba’s psyche. If he’s really as “mental” as the media and other pundits make him out to be (which I happen to think is bs, but even so), coming in and going 3/3 in saves in a series I feel like would have a tremendous positive impact on him.
pitch#6 was a dang strike,,,,game should be over !
Logan reminds me of Coke, only top speed is better.
Logan walks Lugo and here comes Aceves to face Wiggy
Is it too much to ask for strikes? If you are in the bullpen you cannot walk batters.
Too many walks. Get rid of him and try somebody else who isn’t afraid to throw strikes.
Send Logan down and try Royce Ring.
Logan seems to be another afraid to throw strikes.
That makes him worthless as a bullpen option.
wow. the value of a guy like Mo is even more clear on days like this. also, can’t say i love the kid gloves still here w/ joba, he can’t pitch 3 days in a row out of the pen with an off day tomorrow? please
Patrick, you keep saying relax – that Robertson is just in a slump. When a reliever goes into a slump, it’s a big problem because the game is generally on the line. I’m sure he’ll be fine down the road, but right now – he IS a problem. So is Logan -awful.
Logan is simply not aggressive enough out on the mound. He gets ahead of hitters and then starts nibbling to get them to swing at pitches out of the zone.
He’s so worried about the pitch being hit he puts himself in situations where he walks the hitter.
He’s a lefty who can throw in the mid-90′s with life. Just attack the hitter.
Let’s hope Ace keeps the ball down. He gives up home runs more frequently than you’d like.
“BloggingBombers The last time the Yankees had three saves in a row by pitchers other than Rivera? Sept. 23, 27 and 29, 2008 (Joba, Veras, Veras)”
That was when they were already eliminated from the playoffs, wasn’t it?
“Melancon isn’t an option. He’s no better than Robertson at this point.”
because Paul Konerko hit a HR off him?
Talk about reactionary.
Doreen, it was a real close play on Johnson at the plate. he would have been safe, except for his lead foot bounced over the top of the plate and he was tagged out on the back foot.
The yankees have only walked 5 batters after 0-2 on the season
Now its Wigginton. This board will explode if he hits one out
some of these guys are pretty good as long as they don’t pitch when it matters.
mitre was good for 2 inn
marte was good for one batter so was Logan
You know what if Logan was used more he wouldn’t be so wild. F-ing Girardi uses Marte for every LHB and never gets Logan into a game. Of course he walked the ballpark.
RS May 5th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
?BloggingBombers The last time the Yankees had three saves in a row by pitchers other than Rivera? Sept. 23, 27 and 29, 2008 (Joba, Veras, Veras)?
That was when they were already eliminated from the playoffs, wasn?t it?
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I believe so.
Wigginton is on fire.
I guess swisher will pitch if baltimore ties it.
Mo and Joba aren’t available today.
If they can’t get one out to beat this team, they don’t deserve to win the game.
Oh, thank heavens………whew.
Melancon is in the minor leagues. Talk about reactionary.
Whew! That was close!
PHEW
Hey, they won, that’s all that matters ~
It took four pitchers to pick up a save that Mo would have gotten in his sleep.
scary but at least we won
all is well!
Mexican Gangster!
If some of you guys were running the team our entire bullpen outside of Mo would be at AAA or released right now.
Finally !
Aceves….Thank you, and happy cinco di mayo!
Start spreading the neeeewws….
Aceves gets Wiggy to fly out to deep RF
Phew!! Great job Alfredo!!
Yay Aceves!!
It’s always nice to win, but I don’t have a good feeling coming off of this one. Our pen is really untrustworthy at this point – and going into Fenway?
No Stuckey, hasn’t pitched well in NY.
Not just the 3 run HR, he isn’t a consistent strikethrower.
Until he becomes one, he’s not an option.
Nice. Aceves is the man
people, looks like Robertson and Logan suck. But at least we know they won’t be used in Boston series.
Over the last 1/2 hour I witnessed a really pathetic embarrassing performance. People who should be seasoned professional wilt and panic in the course of what’s really a everyday part of the game of baseball…
Oh, and the Yankee bullpen wasn’t go good either.
Aceves to the rescue. Thank you.
Ballgame. So we got a look at almost everyone in the pen and it doesn’t look good. Get Mr. Migayi over here to fix Chan Ho Park’s hammy and Mo’s side because we need these guys healthy!
Cholo for the save! I guess we got to feel what it’s like rooting for every other team in baseball for the last 15 years. I didn’t like it! Long live Mariano!
I almost forgot about Andy, lol -
Melancon has looked bad everytime he has been called up.
His minor league numbers are nice but he is not exactly a guy to be confident in.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
It’s always nice to win, but I don’t have a good feeling coming off of this one. Our pen is really untrustworthy at this point – and going into Fenway?
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We have Hughes, CC, and A.J going we won’t need the bullpen
Thank goodness. Way too exciting. Yankees shut it down, not good.
Oh, well. It’s a not so-clean sweep, but it’s still the same.
9 of 10 series won? 11 games over .500? Good things.
its early folks
Doomsday scenario averted.
Some of the comments here during the 9th. How sad. What a bunch of soft Yankee fans. Some bullpen guys don’t execute and you guys get paranoid.
Oh man, you guys have to get some heart and have positive energy. Some chick, Betsy, was talking about sending a guy down. She was probably soiling herself during the 9th. LOL.
Not just the 3 run HR, he isn’t a consistent strikethrower.
Until he becomes one, he’s not an option.
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You have to give him chances in the majors before saying he isn’t an option. He was fine in inning #1 on sunday.
I said it before and I’ll say it again, a guy like Aceves is invaluable in the “bullpen age” of baseball we are in. The guys demeanor is great. Even if he does give up runs every now and then, you know it is not because he is shook or nervous.
Ramiro Mendoza2k
Hey Ray,
No doubt about the passion that John and Suzyn have. But Sterling’s calls are so off sometimes like a fly ball to the SS or a pop-up HOUR
Can’t believe Robertson will get credited with a “hold” for this performance. These stats really need to be thrown out the window!
Betsy-Stop worrying so much already.
No Mo + No Joba
Andy only pitched into the 6th.
Good thing we still won the game.
I’m only concerned w/Robertson at this point. He looks nothing like the pitcher he was last season, especially in the playoffs.
Today was bullpen by committee and what do you know, we did not lose this game.
YES
Over the course of a 162 game season you have to be able to win games like this.
You aren’t always going to have a full complement of relievers to use.
And when you’re closer is 40 there are going to be games where you have to prioritize his health. That’s all there is to it.
The rest of the pen has to be able to pick it up. It was ugly but it’s a win. Move on.
And now the benefit is that Mo gets another day of full rest without interruption and Joba is rested as well before the boston series.
You can’t depend on having an ideal bull pen every game.
Logan was even getting the benefit of cheap umpire calls, and still walked 2 batters.
If you cant come in and throw strikes out of the bullpen, against Julio Lugo, that’s terrible.
Melancon has looked bad everytime he has been called up.
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3.83 ERA in 16 IP in 09, which is better than D-rob’s debut.
Betsy
Some guys in the pen need to be looked at but I wouldn’t be scared about the pen facing Boston. This isn’t the Red Sox of 2003-2008.
Logan has alot of upside, I just wish they would have brought him in a batter early, b/c D-Rob didn’t have it. Heck I would have just had him go clean for the 9th inning SV. Ace saved it good.
D-Rob needs to find himself in AAA, there are alot of things off w/ him right now, so let him stay and pitch a big situation in BOS, if he burns send him down.
who is gonna be the closer after Mo era?
In the first inning when Melancon came in and got 3 outs the other day he threw 6 balls and 7 strikes with a 3 run lead.
Ray,
I meant homerun, not Hour
Any idea when Park will be back? A pen with Park, Marte, Joba, Aceves and Mo is pretty good.
I don’t care how good Logan was in Spring Training. He is horrible.
Ernie Harwell was all class !!! God Bless !!!
Had this game ended in a loss, it wouldnt have been that big a deal, but the Yankees players and Girardi need to learn from this.
Like SJ said, bring someone else up and see if he can throw strikes and record outs.
I’m a Robertson fan but it might be for the best if he pitched through his issues in AAA.
Marte has to be used as more than the situational lefty.
What does it take to get an error these days?
The Orioles looked awful in the field.
I’m now worried about Mo.
’3.83 ERA in 16 IP in 09, which is better than D-rob’s debut.’
D-Rob has outpitched him in the ML, Melancon still is HR prone up here.
Logan suddenly is throwing 95-97. Not many strikes, but I like that he is throwing very hard.
jz, it’s going to be Joba, is there any question about that?
I think part of the inconsistency of the bullpen is their lack of use. Most relievers will tell you they need to get into a rhythm to be consistent and other than Joba and Mo a lot of these guys haven’t been pitching because we have seen CC, AJ and even Pettitte go into the 8th inning on a lot of their starts this year. I think Girardi decided not to push Andy today and it was the right move because the bullpen needed work. The guys out there didn’t perform all that well but that’s the growing pains we are going to have to deal with when it’s 3 or 4 days when the bullpen gets hardly any work at all.
Dave Eiland should just tase Robertson.
That’ll set the right precedent to deter marte, logan, melancon, etc.
Our bullpen will be fine… Joba/Mariano is a powerful setup man /closer combination. Things will shake out over the course of the season, and between prospects coming up and other guys getting their stuff together the bullpen will work itself out.
“I’m now worried about Mo.”
why are you worried about him?
Warning, um, thanks for the unsolicited advice – In this case, I’m not going to take it because the pen does not look good right now.
I would not be scared going into Boston either, but the pen must throw strikes up there. The Sox are smart. They force you to throw strikes. If you walk guys up there, the inevitable fluke play will cost you dearly.
“jz, it’s going to be Joba, is there any question about that?”
hell no. He hasn’t earned it yet.
Let’s say Robertson is sent down between now and Friday, who will be called up to take his spot? Can’t be Melancon.
Just thinking about this and trying to come up with a legit name
19-8
““I’m now worried about Mo.”
why are you worried about him?”
‘Cause he didn’t pitch, and there’s nothing definite being said.
Christ, people. Most of you whine as much after a win as you do after a loss. What’s next? Whining because of a day off. Not every win is going to be artistic. It wouldn’t have been this close if the Yankee hitters hadn’t lost interest after the 6th inning and started giving away at bats.
who is gonna be the closer after Mo era?
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Unless the Yankees decide to give him another chance to be a starter I would think Joba would be the heir apparent to Mo as the closer.
Betsy-Unfair to criticize the pen when the 2 best pitchers in the pen were unavailable today.
Plus, we won the game.
Ace was able to get the last out-WOO HOO!!!
I think what’s going on w/ Logan b/c I’ve never noticed him throwing 96 97 mph….he found his fastball w/ another armslot and he’s working that in right now. Hence being a bit off the corner w/ his pitches. I’d keep Logan up here, he doesn’t hurt us that much.
D-Rob has outpitched him in the ML, Melancon still is HR prone up here.
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D-rob has gotten far more innings in the ML than Melancon. Melancon has given up 1 Hr, this year. He gave up 0 last year. Try again.
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Christ, people. Most of you whine as much after a win as you do after a loss.
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That’s just what I was thinking! LOL
Jeremy, not scared- it’s just that it’s usually a war of attrition in Fenway. Regardless of who they’re playing, the pen is really struggling right now. That said, if pitchers are unavailable, they are unavailable – even if it means losing a game. Has Joba ever pitched 3 days in a row? Probably not…….and more time off for Mo, the better.
Thanks GB7.
Good day for Nick Johnson otherwise! Glad if he’s turning it around.
Whew – the Orioles made it closer than it was supposed to be, but a win is a win.
I updated the standings and the GTLU update on my blog for those who may be interested. At some point I will put my pictures up from the River Dogs game today.
Betsy
I’m not saying that you are afraid of Boston but it seems like you sell the Yankees short a lot. The Yankees will be fine the last team I would be worried about is the Boston Red Sox. The Rays are the team to worry about because the Red Sox are not in the Yankees or Rays league.
Green Beret-You can’t be surprised that some “fans” are complaining about the victory, LOL!
Most people show up here only to complain.
If we won 10-0, people would complain we did not win 15-0.
We’ll have a rested Joba and Mariano going into Fenway, with the way our starters are going, that is more then enough.
Forget Logan’s velocity – it means nothing without good control.
When is Park due to come back?
“3.83 ERA in 16 IP in 09, which is better than D-rob’s debut.”
His ERA as a reliever in 16 innings is a good indicator? Come on.
He pitched in one 1 run game (and blew it) and the vast majority of the rest of his appearances came in blow outs. That he pitched to a 3.83 ERA in those type of games is not impressive.
He has shown little control everytime he has been called up and has looked bad on the mound.
Warning, I’ve not been a fan of the pen since ST………Having Park will help. Marte? Something’s up because Cash said during ST he was only a situational lefty….plus, he’s been mediocre. I know Robertson will eventually be fine, but we can’t have him working out his issues in games that count.
And I don’t seen guys like Robertson pitching in the Yanks-Sox series unless it’s a blowout.
Wave-
I think they were just trying to get a win in the bank against a bad team so that Mo could just get more consecutive days off.
The O’s are really bad. It’s a team you can take some risk against in order to get Mo more rest.
Don’t know what this injury is. Sounds like something he had last year during the end of the season/ world series.
He’s 40. We’re probably going to have to get used to him not being in ideal health all the time.
They are going to need to be able to close out games without him during the regular season. They need to keep him healthy for the post season.
If he didn’t get used in a close game against a better opponent that would be more of a cause for concern.
Ledger_Yankees Girardi on Pettitte: vs. Sox, felt minor stiffness on left forearm. Flared up again in fifth. Getting MRI.
I predict “bull pen needed work” “I needed to see what I had” is Joe’s answer
BryanHoch Andy Pettitte left today’s start after five innings due to stiffness in his elbow. He’s having a MRI.
Bubble wrap Jeter!
Robertson’s in a pitcher’s slump. It happens.
The only way he comes out of it is thru pitching. Maybe not in tight situations, but he still needs to pitch in games, and do it regularly.
I think this was a good spot for him to try and work it out – four run lead in the 9th. So, what bad thing happened by him giving up two HRs – there was more anxiety than preferred? The Yanks still won. You don’t get extra games in the standings because you win by more runs than less.
He still needs to improve, obviously, but that’s not going to happen on the sidelines. Nor in AAA; he’s already shown he knows how to get those guys out.
It’s the price to be paid when the starters go deep. But, they won’t forever, and he will be needed. A little anxiety now is a small price for a solid reliever during the summer months, and beyond.
Andddd Andy’s getting an MRI. Keeping my fingers crossed that its nothing.
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SI JINX!!!
According to Marc Carig, Andy’s going for an MRI – he felt stiffness in his elbow (first his forearm).
Ledger_Yankees Girardi on Pettitte: vs. Sox, felt minor stiffness on left forearm. Flared up again in fifth. Getting MRI.
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aw crap – hope he’s ok
more freakin stiffness
SI jinx?? Jeter next….
I was afraid Andy left the game due to some kind of injury
I know Mitre gave up a 2 run HR, but I really like the movement on his sinker.
He is a much better pitcher this season.
Doreen – GTLU Standings, Updates, Calendar & Rules May 5th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Thanks GB7.
Good day for Nick Johnson otherwise! Glad if he’s turning it around.
Whew – the Orioles made it closer than it was supposed to be, but a win is a win.
I updated the standings and the GTLU update on my blog for those who may be interested. At some point I will put my pictures up from the River Dogs game today.
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I figure that Cashman brought Johnson in for his bat. If he thought he was getting Nick Johnson with Uncle Larry’s wheels, then, Cashman needs a reality check.
Uggggggggh that is not good news about Andy. At least we have Super Mitre who can valiently fill in, if necessary!
Oh lord, you’ve got to be kidding.
So who were the genius’s on here that were proclaiming milton bradley wasn’t a clubhouse cancer, just a misunderstood man (i know who you were I’m just being sarcastic).
What have you got to say about your psychopath now? Still a good move by the Seattle GM Jack Zduriencik?
MRI week in NY?
Joe-Well said. 4 run lead, let Dave take the hill to work out his problem and pitch through them.
Ledger_Yankees Not elbow on Andy; looks like higher on arm. Different spot from tightness he felt against Sox. MRI determines what’s next.
BloggingBombers Girardi said Pettitte experienced some stiffness in his arm, which he also had after his last start. Pettitte getting tests at hospital now.
Ledger_Yankees Not elbow on Andy; looks like higher on arm. Different spot from tightness he felt against Sox. MRI determines what’s next.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....at_ha.html
Why doesn’t YES know this yet?
Forearm and then elbow? That doesn’t sound good….
Andy had these forearm/elbow issues before. Better to give him rest now in May than to have this flair up on him like it did at the end of the 2008 season. He was pretty awful the last two months of the ’08 season, gutting out every start in so much pain.
Well I guess the people who have been pushing Mitre as the fifth starter will get a chance to see if they were right…
Why are so many guys getting these minor injuries right around the same time.
I think Carig corrected his tweet to reflect that it’s not the elbow…
Did someone say Pettitte is having an MRI
If something happens to Jeter, I will belive in the SI Jinx again.
Ledger_Yankees 3 of 4 on SI cover are now banged up.
If anything happens to Jeter, I will officially become a believer of the SI jinx.
“His ERA as a reliever in 16 innings is a good indicator? Come on.”
NOTHING is a good indicator in his first 16 scattered ML innings.
THAT’s the point.
The news on Pettitte is why those discussions on the yankees being able to afford to have Vazquez not pitch well because he was the “number 5″ pitcher and the yanks number 5 last year was awful were silly.
Not good news on pettitte. He had a great year last year but 2008 he had significant problems with his shoulder and it showed.
Even if the MRI is negative and it’s not his elbow, tightness in his arm isn’t good.
He’s 37. His risk for being injured isn’t trivial.
This is exactly why they decided to trade for Vazquez in the first place.
Javy needs to turn it around.
So he had stiffness and they decided to pitch him anyway today?
Okay. Not elbow. But still…
This is really uncanny, isn’t it?
someone put 10 guys around jeter at all times……
Ledger_Yankees Again, to clarify, Pettitte to get an MRI today after feeling stiffness on upper portion of left arm. No specifics on exact location yet.
Bad news about Andy. Hopefully he gets a clean bill of health.
day off tomorrow. what will the complainers and critics do with the free time, LOL
we won
we scored 2 more runs than the o’s
NICE!!
Ledger_Yankees Again, to clarify, Pettitte to get an MRI today after feeling stiffness on upper portion of left arm. No specifics on exact location yet.
Stiffness – the Mets cancel a BP for Pelfrey, but the Yankees go ahead and pitch Pettitte.
You do not need 7 high quality arms in the bullpen in general.
With this pitching staff (hoping Andy’s arm is no big deal) and this offense you definitely do not need that many.
If Robertson continues to suck you send him down and try someone else to fill out the back end of the bullpen.
The bullpen will fall into place as the front of it is already starting to with Joba heating up and the ineffective guys at the back end will be weeded out.
I’ve never really weighed in on bullpen pitchers but I have said that I don’t see the David Robertson that others here have continued to rave about and want to be the 8th inning guy. Of course that can change, but there is nothing I have seen that yet makes me think that he should be a substitute for Joba. Au contraire.
On the other hand, I keep getting the feeling that Joba is in the process of being groomed for Mariano’s job, should the time ever come that he no longer wants it. Mariano-Wetteland = Joba-Mariano.
Melancon had 16 innings in the majors with an average days rest of like 4. And his best stretches came with regular work.
I’ve never really weighed in on bullpen pitchers but I have said that I don’t see the David Robertson that others here have continued to rave about and want to be the 8th inning guy.
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Did you watch 2009 with a blindfold?
How’s that jinx going? 3 out of 4 are having potentially serious problems
I still don’t think this is the end of the world. It’s bad but some people need to calm down. I rather get the news before going crazy.
re prediction – he felt something, he felt it after Boston, we wanted to check it out and be sure, am I concerned Im always concerned but I’m not worried, he’ll make his start in Detroit unless something turns up, we’ll see how he feels tomorrow Joe
Wins are not always pretty.
Some of the fans on the blog cannot fathom the length of the season and the ups and downs along the way.
Imagine what the lohud posts would have been like along the way in 96,98,99,00…
or 77,78! ( thats as far back as I go ) but you get the point.
If Yankees fans didn’t find something to complain about even after a win this wouldn’t be New York. 19-8 is pretty darn impressive considering they started the season with so many games on the road. A couple of blips here or there have been smoothed over. Can you imagine if Javy had just pitched average baseball and if A-Rod and Tex were themselves in August? This team might have lost 3 or 4 games at most.
At the very worst, NYY sits Pettitte for 15 days and bring up Nova or Hirsh for a couple of starts. The other option is Mitre for two starts and bring Melancon back for the bullpen.
Brett Gardner has already scored 22 runs.
at this rate (I know, I know — he won’t keep it up), he’d score 141 runs.
The whole Melancon thing is getting ridiculous.
A couple years ago people are anointing him Mo’s heir. This year he had to make the team out of ST. Everytime someone has a bad game in the bullpen there are calls from him.
To date, everytime he has been called up he has shown very poor control which is not a good recipe for a reliever.
If he wants to be part of this bullpen he has to be effective when he is called up.
Per Suzy, in his start against the Sox, Andy felt stiffness in forearm. The trainers rubbed it out and he was fine; that’s when Joe decided to give Andy an extra day.
Today, the stiffness moved above the elbow (when he was warming up), it was rubbed out again- and in the 5th, he felt stiff in forearm and elbow.
Am I the only one or not? Joba the closer of Yankees? Are you kidding me?
According to Suzyn, Andy has stiffness in his forearm and elbow. On his way for a MRI.
trisha, think back to 2009 playoffs. Even the players, like Jeter, raved about his performances. I think Jetes knows something about clutch pitching.
Orioles (7-18) came in on a high after sweeping the bosux, and get swept out of town themselves (7-21) !
Yankees bottom of the order still carrying the team…good!
Joe: they won’t know about Jorge until Friday, when he starts doing baseball activities.
*would have preferred not to use Ace
*will have to manage the older players all year; will have to determine whether it’s soreness or an injury
“Why doesn’t YES know this yet?”
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Because the Yankee propoganda machine headed by the YES Network likes to keep everyone in the dark until it’s absolutely necessary to divulge any information. They want to keep the drama at a minimum and I can’t say I blame them. The letters MRI scare the hell out of everyone.
At any rate, we’re looking at:
@Boston
Hughes
CC
AJ
@Detroit
Javy
Mitre
Hughes
CC
Now we know why Javy was wedged between AJ & Andy.
*We’ve won 7 of the last 8 games. Isn’t that terrific?
How’s that jinx going? 3 out of 4 are having potentially serious problems
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potentially serious?
So far this is the only one that may be serious…
rivera has stiff side all the time, and posada had a hurt ankle. hardly serious and if they had to they both could have played.
Fran (the original) May 5th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
I agree & I sometimes laugh out loud when I listen to them as if John Sterling hasn’t heard a word Suzyn has said!
The whole Melancon thing is getting ridiculous.
A couple years ago people are anointing him Mo’s heir. This year he had to make the team out of ST. Everytime someone has a bad game in the bullpen there are calls from him.
To date, everytime he has been called up he has shown very poor control which is not a good recipe for a reliever.
If he wants to be part of this bullpen he has to be effective when he is called up.
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David Robertson showed no control in his original call up, but the Yankees stuck with him and then gave him a shot again in 09. His first 3 appearances in 09 he put 7 runners on in 3.1 IP and had a 5 ERA and only threw 50% strikes.
What the heck are you talking about here, seriously? Melancon needs to be given a REAL shot. Albaladejo, Veras, Edwar, Robertson all got extended shots, far more than Melancon got.
“A couple years ago people are anointing him Mo’s heir.”
That argument is beneath you. If you can cite someone who is defending him THIS afternoon that appointed him Rivera’s heir, then call them on it, but don’t distract from the discussion at hand by pulling out some wild thing some people said once upon a time.
“To date, everytime he has been called up he has shown very poor control which is not a good recipe for a reliever. ”
So by this you’re suggesting that young, inexperienced players aren’t allowed to struggle during the birth of their major league careers?
MLB would have lost a lot of really, really good careers if this were the case…
The New York MRI Yankees
betsy -
Not elbow. JOe’s talking about it on YES now. He pointed to an area just below the triceps. He doesn’t want to speculate – he wants to wait for results on MRI.
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
What do you mean the Yanks are off tomorrow! How can they do that! They have 162 games to play and they need to earn every dollar we pay them. No days off!!! Whine!!!!!!!
Damon down with Calf injury
This sounds like an elbow issue, but that doesn’t mean it is serious. I think Hirsch is the likely call up, if one is needed, since he has been pitching great lately. I hope Andy is well. He has been pitching as well as ever.
Credit to Bryan Hoch- Johnson and Swisher- The NY Nicks.
“Did you watch 2009 with a blindfold?”
Oh no, I always make my evaluations in the present based on what happened in 2009! I mean doesn’t everyone? Of course I made my evaluations on Phil Coke in 2009 based on what happened in 2008.
“Am I the only one or not? Joba the closer of Yankees? Are you kidding me?”
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Yes you do appear to be the only one questioning this move. What’s so hard to believe?
http://www.baseball-reference......r&t=p
12-7 w/ 4.18 era (1.48 WHIP) in 43 starts (8.4k per 9IP)
3-3 w/ 1.74 era (1.023 WHIP), 3 saves, 92 k in 72.1IP (11.4k per 9IP) over 63 appearances as a reliever
I would say he’s a dominant reliever and at best a #3/#4 starter if he went back into the rotation. I’d continue to groom him as a dominant reliever because Mo can’t go forever.
stuckey May 5th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
“A couple years ago people are anointing him Mo’s heir.”
That argument is beneath you. If you can cite someone who is defending him THIS afternoon that appointed him Rivera’s heir, then call them on it, but don’t distract from the discussion at hand by pulling out some wild thing some people said once upon a time.
“To date, everytime he has been called up he has shown very poor control which is not a good recipe for a reliever. ”
So by this you’re suggesting that young, inexperienced players aren’t allowed to struggle during the birth of their major league careers?
MLB would have lost a lot of really, really good careers if this were the case…
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How old is Malencon?
austinmac,
Hirsch would not get called up, he’s not on the 40. Mitre would move into Pettitte’s spot if he needs to miss starts.
Anyone know anything on why Andy Petite was removed after 5? TIA!
Girardi didn’t sound like he was too worried about Pettitte at this point. Said Andy had some stiffness in his forearm during the Chicago game, it went away and then seemed to have come back in the back of the upper arm during the fifth inning, so Andy was sent for an MRI. Joe indicated it was a better sign that the stiffness moved around than it staying in one spot.
Joe seemed pretty definite that Mo will be available Friday.
I think we should start a petition to simply forfeit the rest of the season.
I mean it’s pretty pointless to even bother playing if the rest of the AL just doesn’t run for cover and hide from the Yankees, grant them their rightful position in first place and agree to lose ground to them on a daily basis, but if the Yankees are going to make us deal with slumping hitters and batters, line-up construction we don’t personally endorse, games the require saves, potentially losing up to a ghastly 60 games [shudder] and worse, the audacity of players getting injured, then I really, really think they should just call the whole thing off.
damn, Andy news concerns me.
RayVT May 5th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
What do you mean the Yanks are off tomorrow! How can they do that! They have 162 games to play and they need to earn every dollar we pay them. No days off!!! Whine!!!!!!!
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LMAO. The schedule makers screwed up in reverse. They tried to mess up with the Yanks playing in Boston twice before them playing in NY, tried stacking a pretty tough series of games to start the season, and then put in all of these off days early. As it turns out, the Yanks caught some teams cold and with the little dings to key people, the off days are coming in handy. That George Steinbrenner guy has some secret pull with The Man Upstairs.
Oh no, I always make my evaluations in the present based on what happened in 2009! I mean doesn’t everyone? Of course I made my evaluations on Phil Coke in 2009 based on what happened in 2008.
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You said you did not see what people saw in Robertson wanting him to be the 8th inning guy. Obviously you are ignoring 2009, where he was a very awesome reliever. And the playoffs. where he pitched out of some huge jams.
And he has gotten irregular work this year, and he worked better in 09 and 08 with regular work.
115 is the number I’ve been thinking about since the start of the season. Stupid, I know, but if I may ever see a Yankee team like that again in my lifetime I like my chances of it being this one.
They are 19-8 while getting virtually nothing from their 2 best players and their number two hitter. I think thats pretty remarkable. I want to roll up to Fenway and sweep them handedly.
JK–You may well be right since he is not on the 40 man. Someone would presumably would need to be called up as long man. Aceves seems too valuable in his multi-dimensional role.
Robertson did not make the team out of ST in 2009 after what he did in 2008.
When he did get called up in 2009 he was effective and that is why he stuck around.
Melancon has to do the same thing and to date he has not. I would venture to say there is a reason Melancon has not been called up all these times fans wanted him to be.
These guys are not blue chip prospects that are going to make or break the team so the Yankees should be patient and let them work it out on the parent club.
As a young reliever if you are effective you stay around and if your not you get sent back to Scranton. Melancon needs to come up here and string together a few good appearances before being considered some type of fix to the bullpen.
Ledger_Yankees Eiland says pulling Pettitte was precautionary; like Girardi, Eiland didn’t share exactly where on the left arm AP was feeling stiffness.
Girardi also said Andy wanted to stay in.
“This sounds like an elbow issue, but that doesn’t mean it is serious. I think Hirsch is the likely call up, if one is needed, since he has been pitching great lately.”
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Since Melancon was just sent down and cannot be immediately recalled and Hirsh is not on the 40 man roster my guess to be called up would be Ivan Nova (2-0, 2.43era) who IS on the 40 man roster. Romulo Sanchez is also on the 40 man but he’s been awful at SWB (0-2, 6.48era, 1.64WHIP, etc, etc) Albaladejo (1-1, 8SVS, 1.32era, 1.02WHIP) has been good down there but I don’t think he has any options left and if they called him up I don’t think he could be sent down without being put on waivers.
Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Girardi didn?t sound like he was too worried about Pettitte at this point. Said Andy had some stiffness in his forearm during the Chicago game, it went away and then seemed to have come back in the back of the upper arm during the fifth inning, so Andy was sent for an MRI. Joe indicated it was a better sign that the stiffness moved around than it staying in one spot.
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Thanks, Wave-that makes me feel better!
LGY,
you’re ignoring his 09 call up, where right after he was called up he sucked in his first 3.1 IP. So melancon gets only 1 appearance? But D-rob gets 3 terrible appearances?
Andy in 5 innings still only gave up 1 walked in run, on his stiff arm. Mitre, and Robertson arms were ok and both gave up 2 runs each!! Andy still got #4.
Erin -
Girardi pointed to the areas. He did not want to name specific muscles because until the MRI they really don’t know and he doesn’t want to speculate.
Who do the Twins think they are, the Yankees????
Robertson really took off in 08 and 09 when he got regular work. Give Melancon the same chance.
Joe LI – that was then, this was now. I thought Phil Coke was going to be a Yankee savior based on what I saw of him in 2008.
I am talking about people clamoring for him to be in games, despite his having more bad outings than good in 2010. As I said, if things change so will my opinion change. But I haven’t seen anything about him this season that makes me think he should be our 8th inning guy! There were posters who were ballistic when he wasn’t being given the 8th inning, and other posters had to point out to them that he was continuing to give up runs outing after outing and that at one point his ERA was close to 9.
Sorry if I didn’t make my position more clear. I am talking about this season and people still screaming for him despite his giving up runs – though maybe it died down after the last few games. Over the last 6 games his ERA started out at 15.43, went down to 7.71, and over the last 4 games has steadily crept back up. Today it is 14.21.
That was my point.
Ledger_Yankees Andy thru spokesman: “any time you’re talking about the area around the elbow you start to worry about it.”
Concerned about Andy.
Hoping for the best!
Hey All,
The Yankees are 19-8. Just think of last season. The Yankees will lose games and have injuries. It is part of the game. I certainly hope the ‘thing’ with Andy is nothing serious. If he just has to miss one start, I will be happy about that.
Every year they talk about ‘there is no such thing as too much pitching’. Now is the time to find out if in fact we will need one of those ‘extra’ pitchers we have. Since we don’t know if this is even serious, I think everyone is getting ahead of themselves.
Doreen – GTLU Standings, Updates, Calendar & Rules May 5th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Erin -
Girardi pointed to the areas. He did not want to name specific muscles because until the MRI they really don?t know and he doesn?t want to speculate.
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Thanks Doreen. That makes sense not to speculate.
love this from the Goose:
the question was ‘If a player on your team gets drilled, are you obligated to respond?’
his response:
“We were playing Baltimore one year in Fort Lauderdale early in spring training. Graig Nettles comes up and Mike Flanagan drills him in the wrist with the first pitch. OK, fine. Then somebody takes out Willie Randolph at second base and they almost kill him. OK, fine. Nothing was said. Nobody got upset. That was the way the game was played at the time. But we knew when we had a chance, we’d take care of it.
“Later in spring training I was on the mound and Al Bumbry, their leadoff hitter, came to the plate. I hit him on the point of the hip as hard as I could throw. He fell down in the box and he was going around like a top. He was break dancing in the batter’s box. I’m telling you, I had never seen anything like it. I came in the dugout after that inning was over and everybody was like, ‘Hey Goose, way to go. Thanks, man.’ They all knew what it was for. It wasn’t that big a deal. But there’s a time and a place to take care of business, and we took care of business.”
Kay’s making a good point. Joe knew he had a short pen, so why not leave Marte in with a 3 run lead, esp. as he looked great?
BryanHoch Pettitte cont: “I think it’s going to be fine but I’ll know more after the MRI.” (via Jason Zillo)
BryanHoch Pettitte: “Anytime you’re talking about the area around the elbow, you start to worry a little bit.”
1 minute ago via txt
“Robertson did not make the team out of ST in 2009 after what he did in 2008.
When he did get called up in 2009 he was effective and that is why he stuck around.
Melancon has to do the same thing and to date he has not. I would venture to say there is a reason Melancon has not been called up all these times fans wanted him to be.”
Well, if you are voluntarily throwing out 2009, then the proper response is Mark Melancon has pitched 2 innings this year.
2…
Innings…
Brett Gardner was hitting .217 after 10 GAMES.
I really can’t believe you’re arguing with the straight face that Mark Melancon had to be more effective in his 2 innings to get a 3rd.
That’s absurd.
“Kay’s making a good point. Joe knew he had a short pen, so why not leave Marte in with a 3 run lead, esp. as he looked great?”
Excellent point. If only we could somehow go back in time and win this game a better way…
Amazing how CB says that the Yankees need Javy to turn it around now with Andy potentially hurt and no one jumps down his throat like Betsy…
Kay discussing how Girardi used the pen today.
Kay critical of Girardi “mixing and matching” when he knew the bullpen was short by two.
Good point by Kay.
Kay saying he does not understand “mixing and matching” with a short bullpen.
Also, Kay asking why Marte was not given the chance to end the 8th inning.
“Amazing how CB says that the Yankees need Javy to turn it around now with Andy potentially hurt and no one jumps down his throat like Betsy…”
Didn’t see it, but I’d be glad to.
No, he doesn’t.
In the off season the front office had to decide on whether to try to win again with largely the same team or to enact change.
The most significant points of weakness on the 2009 club were related to limited starting pitching depth and age.
The front office decided to make adjustments to address some of those issues and I think that was the right instinct.
That’s why they traded for Granderson – as a hedge against accumulating age on the roster.
But much of this strategy was based on Javier Vazquez. The 200 quality innings he was looked on to provide were a hedge against Hughes having difficulties or against injury – especially to Andy.
It’s good to hear Girardi and Eiland aren’t concerned. That said, they really need to get Javy turned around and throwing productively.
A significant part of the latent capacity this team has to withstand injury and/ or age related decline is tied to Javy.
To maximize their chances of winning this year they need him to start pitching up to the back of his baseball card.
stuckey-
Marte needs to get where he is used more than as a LOOGY. The Yanks were down to their last pitcher today, and the reason, aside from D-Rob and Logan, is that Marte only faced one batter.
Pags&Rags May 5th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Since Melancon was just sent down and cannot be immediately recalled and Hirsh is not on the 40 man roster my guess to be called up would be Ivan Nova (2-0, 2.43era) who IS on the 40 man roster. Romulo Sanchez is also on the 40 man but he’s been awful at SWB (0-2, 6.48era, 1.64WHIP, etc, etc) Albaladejo (1-1, 8SVS, 1.32era, 1.02WHIP) has been good down there but I don’t think he has any options left and if they called him up I don’t think he could be sent down without being put on waivers.
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If Pettitte is DL’d, or any other player is DL’d, Melancon can be recalled before 10 days are up.
LGY, that’s what bugs me about some people…….thanks for having my back!
I’m going to think good thoughts and be positive; it’s all I can do.
Andy’s news means Javy has to step up.
Big ballpark in Detroit.
Stop nibbling, attack hitters, and pitch to the back of your baseball card.
If he does, you overcome any down time Andy may have.
Green-Good post. If you did not explain those rules, some of the “whiners” would have missed the lesson you just taught, LOL
Maybe Nova will be called up.
I’m trying to decide if Robertson should be sent down to AAA.
Not sure if I am convinced that is the best option for him.
CB, I agree. I don’t want to jump ahead, but if Andy is out for any period of time, Phil becomes the #3 – that’s hardly ideal.
Kay definitely made good points about Joe; if this game had gone into extras, only Ace would have been able to pitch – and for how long?
Javy, please come back to us, lol.
So, what’s the over/under on how many writers call Girardi out about lying to them over this injury? 3, 5, 7?
‘forearm stiffness’
two frightening words when it comes to a pitcher.
I’m not usually a hand-wringer, but those are not words I want to hear associated w/Andy.
Kay doesn’t know about Hirsch as a 5th starter option.
If Andy can not make his start next Tuesday, someone would have to take his place. Yankees won’t have the opportunity to ask Hughes to fill in(Hughes would pitch on 3 days rest).
So, what’s the over/under on how many writers call Girardi out about lying to them over this injury? 3, 5, 7?
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357 sounds about right.
“CB, I agree. I don’t want to jump ahead, but if Andy is out for any period of time, Phil becomes the #3 – that’s hardly ideal.”
Phil has a 1.44 ERA and a .885 WHIP. What “number” in the rotation he is at this point in the season is meaningless, don’t obsess on it and be glad Phil is pitching great.
44 May 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Andy’s news means Javy has to step up.
Big ballpark in Detroit.
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And pitch around Miguel Cabrera every chance they get.
SJ-
Andy having issues with his health is precisely why the yanks traded for Javy. It was exactly this kind of situation they acquired him to stratify risk for.
They could have rolled the dice and slotted Joba back in the rotation. But that was clearly a risk they didn’t want to absorb in the rotation.
Andy was terrible the second part of 2008. Bad enough to where many people didn’t even want him back in 2009.
Last year after that awful start he was great. But that doesn’t change the recent history of arm problems. And he’s only older now.
He’s been great this year but at best they are probably going to need to given him some rest and then be careful with how he’s used. No more 114 pitch outings for a while, I’d guess. And he’ll be at some increased risk for missing time to injury during the latter parts of this season as well.
Given that Javy really needs to do what he was brought in here to do.
The rest of the staff has provided the length and quality that could allow the team to absorb Javy being bad. But now he’s got to turn it around.
Also, now we know why Javy is pitching when he is – they wanted to give Andy more rest as they knew about his problem before the rest of us.
The Yanks knew what they were doing after all, imagine that.
“Marte needs to get where he is used more than as a LOOGY. The Yanks were down to their last pitcher today, and the reason, aside from D-Rob and Logan, is that Marte only faced one batter.”
When Marte was removed, Girardi needed 4 outs, against the orioles, with a 3 run lead and two offensive half-inning in reserve.
He still had 3 “available” relievers, including a lefty. If on May 5th, you should be managing to protect against the worst team in baseball scoring 3 runs in 1.1 innings and needing another arm for extra innings, the game has most certainly passed me by.
Wave, I’m worried about the rotation -not Phil. Well let me say that I will be worried if Andy is out – I’m not going to worry until we get (hopefully we wont’) bad results from the MRI.
stuckey,
There is more to this than 2 innings. You called SJ reactionary because he said Melancon is not an option to supplant Robertson and fix the bullpen right now.
Melancon has been given a few opportunities now and when he gets put into the game he does not look like the guy he is in the minors or someone that can be successful in the bullpen.
No one is saying he should never get another opportunity. But to say he is not an option right now is not reactionary. He is not an important piece of the organization. Gardner was the starting LF last year. It is not the same.
If he wants to be an option he has to take advantage of the opportunities he is given. He has not so far which is why saying he is not the fix is not out of line.
stuckey, you are missing my point.
Marte is, our should be, our third best reliever. He has to get to where he is used to get lefties and righties out, to pitch a full inning. He’s making $4MM a year, and with D-Rob and Logan not being that effective Marte being a LOOGY is not what the Yanks need.
“Also, now we know why Javy is pitching when he is – they wanted to give Andy more rest as they knew about his problem before the rest of us.
The Yanks knew what they were doing after all, imagine that.”
That’s exactly it. The vast majority thought that move was for Javy – but it was also about Andy.
I think they were trying to keep Andy’s discomfort an internal issue but pulling him from the start today and sending him for the MRI forced the issue.
If he wants to be an option he has to take advantage of the opportunities he is given. He has not so far which is why saying he is not the fix is not out of line.
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From Jul 28 to Sept 15, Melancon pitched 10 innings, threw 60% strikes, struck out 8, and gave up 3 runs.
CB,
Exactly. The kid gloves have to come off.
Step up and pitch better, period.
If he does, you survive this.
If he can’t, you gotta move on.
You don’t have the luxury of waiting two months for him to find it.
He doesn’t have to great. Just be servicable.
If he can’t, Jason Hirsh, come on down. You get your shot to be this year’s Aaron Small.
“To maximize their chances of winning this year they need him to start pitching up to the back of his baseball card.”
Of course.. that’s a statement that no one could obviously argue with. No pitcher every being hurt, or ever being ineffective, maximizes their chances.
I think the question at hand is are the Yankees need enough to withstand a temporary issue with Pettitte and continued ineffectiveness from Vazquez.
I say they are built to withstand it and offer pretty much as far back as I can remember as exhibit A.
Yankees have been playing and winning, with 3 and 1/2 starters for years.
Eiland just saying he wanted to stay in the game and “we” kind of had to drag him out. He went on to say most likely normal arm fatigue.
Javy is going to pitch very well Monday vs the tigers.
I can feel it.
That’s just cruel talking about Mo’s hair. Stop, please.
pat,
I love that. The NY Nicks.
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hello GB! Yes the Yanks do have a connection with the Man upstairs!
Wave, if Joe Girardi has a proven track record of anything, it’s bullpen construction and management. The Yankees rebuilt their bullpen on the fly last year and I give hm his share of the credit.
If Girardi has determined what role to put Marte in to give him the best chance to succeed and the rest of the bullpen to be effective, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I mean yeah, there bullpen has almost certainly had issues this year, but it’s been nirvana compared to a year ago this time. There IS going to be changes… Robertson may be ineffective all year, Melancon may have to step up, Park may play a more important role than we all imagined.
The point is, i don’t think Girardi is making the moves unaware of their ramification, both in game and long-term.
I have to assume the way he’s using Marte is quite intentional.
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I might be wrong, but I think that in order for Melacon to come back before the 10 day limit that a pitcher must be DL’d. Of course Pettite is a Pitcher!
“There is more to this than 2 innings. You called SJ reactionary because he said Melancon is not an option to supplant Robertson and fix the bullpen right now.”
Well, perhaps there is some miscommunication, because right now, I think Robertson is in the backend of the bullpen. I’m not a strong believer in fixed position, and as we speak, Rivera, Chamberlain, Aceves, and Marte are ahead of him.
Park might be back in a week(ish).
So what I THOUGHT I was responding to was the notion that Melancon couldn’t serve as a back-end guy, assuming perhaps Robertson needs to be sent down.
“Melancon has been given a few opportunities now and when he gets put into the game he does not look like the guy he is in the minors or someone that can be successful in the bullpen.”
No argument. My response is he’s pitched 18 major league innings. He’s not even all the way out of the birth canal in terms of his ML career.
“Gardner was the starting LF last year. It is not the same.”
No, it’s not. The stakes are far greater with Gardner. And I’m not sure the questions marks are any less pronounced (and to a degree, still aren’t).
“If he wants to be an option he has to take advantage of the opportunities he is given. He has not so far which is why saying he is not the fix is not out of line.”
The ML leading homerun hitter got into one, in blowout, in an inning that started with a error that put a man on base.
I’m a firm believer no one swing should ever determine ANYthing.
Mark Melancon gave up a homer to the major’s hottest HR hitter.
I simply refuse to accept this one swing carries that much weight.
Go Yankees