Pregame notes: Aceves out with bulging disc
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on May 11, 2010 
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Until yesterday, the Yankees were optimistic about Alfredo Aceves and his sore back. Aceves said he felt much better, and manager Joe Girardi thought Aceves was a day or two away from returning to the bullpen.
Then Aceves tried to throw yesterday and he felt his back pinch. He was fine during warmups, but when he tried to really throw with force, he felt the same pain two pitches in a row.
“I’m trying to play,” he said. “But it’s not in my hands.”
The Yankees expect to put Aceves on the disabled list tomorrow. Aceves said he’s been told he has a bulging disc and he wants to take his time now that he’s going on the DL.
Who the Yankees call-up to take his place could depend on tonight’s game.
“The bullpen moves we make right now, a lot of it depends on what happens that day,” Girardi said.
• Girardi would not comment on today’s reports of a Juan Miranda call-up, but indications are that the move could still be made, just not today.
• There is still rain and thunder at Comerica Park. Still no word on whether the game will be called, but it sounds like a double header will happen tomorrow if the game is rained out. “I’d prefer to play,” Girardi said. “Split double headers aren’t very good for a club.”
• Chan Ho Park will almost certainly make one rehab appearance on Wednesday and another on Friday before rejoining the major league bullpen.
• The earliest Sergio Mitre would be available out of the bullpen would be Friday.
• Dave Robertson is not available tonight and Joba Chamberlain is limited to one inning. Girardi said Ivan Nova could be used for something other than long relief because his right-handed options are limited.
• Girardi on Mariano Rivera not yet pitching this month: “I wouldn’t imagine we’d go much longer.”
• Nick Swisher said he wasn’t upset at the antics of Jose Valverde, who did a lot of fist pumping after his three straight strikeouts last night. “I’m an emotional guy,” Swisher said. “I probably do some things in the heat of the moment.”
• Just to be clear, there were no player moves today. The roster is the same today as it was yesterday with Aceves active — but not available — and a bench consisting of Pena, Russo and Cervelli. No word on why they haven’t made a move yet, but I suspect it has a lot to do with today’s weather. The Yankees need to know what exactly they’re dealing with before they start making changes.
UPDATE, 6:13 p.m.: Folks here in Detroit seem to be more optimistic that the game is going to be played. It’s still raining pretty steady, but I guess it’s possible. Here’s the Tigers’ lineup.
Austin Jackson CF
Johnny Damon DH
Magglio Ordonez RF
Miguel Cabrera 1B
Brennan Boesch LF
Brandon Inge 3B
Scott Sizemore 2B
Gerald Laird C
Adam Everett SS
RHP Rick Porcello
Associated Press photo
What are the odds this game gets played?
What are the odds this game gets played?
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Ask a weatherman
That’s too bad about Aceves.
Yankees playing it smart. As always.
The New BP:
Mo
Joba
D-Rob
Marte
Park
Mitre
Logan.
You’ve got Melancon, Nova,Sanchez, Albaladejo, Hirsch, Ring and Z-mac if needed.
Ugh, this season is going down the tubes with all these injuries…
really don’t know how much longer we can withstand them as we head into the meet of our schedule.
Where have you gone, Mah-ree-ah-no, a baseball club turns it’s lonely eyes to you, yoohoohoo
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Ugh, this season is going down the tubes with all these injuries…
really don’t know how much longer we can withstand them as we head into the meet of our schedule.”
21-10. 2nd best record in MLB.
That’s not going down the tubes.
So why is Boone Logan still here?
Bulging disc = bad news
No time tables with injuries like this.
M, I don’t think they had much choice……..very unfortunate for Ace and for the team. I’m hoping he’ll be back soon, but it doesn’t sound good.
For people asking about Stonebrunner and why he was removed from a recent game after one inning, per Pinstripes Plus, he’s been promoted to Tampa.
Park should be preparing himself to play a bigger role than we all originally thought. If he’s healthy, he’s the new 7th inning bridge to Joba.
If it is a bulging disk, don’t expect him back for a long time.
Betsy,
Playing it smart as far as holding off the roster moves.
This team is built for the long haul.
Our season isn’t going down the tubes at all.
We are gonna turn the rest of the league inside out like a sock.
As long as our SP generally stay healthy we’re fine.
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champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
The Yanks have a plethora of arms in the system to withstand these injury flare ups…
please breathe people this is what happens in professional sports. the Yanks are one of few teams in the sport that have an inventory that they can draw from to reinforce the ML squad for the next 2-3 weeks.
Guys like Melancon, Romulo,Albaledejo and even Whelan along with Ring are capable of covering…until Park and Ace get back….
Chan Ho will prob be back next week at the lastest….I for one would like to see Melancon recalled and used more regularly to cover for Ace.
Mirando should be given regular abs vs. righties taking Nick’s place and Melancon should assume Ace’s role in the ‘pen until Ace is healthy imo…
I thought Stoneburner was getting a promotion to High-A….I bet Noesi gets moved to Trenton as well…
good stuff
Oh, lol – sorry M!
That’s too bad about Alfredo. Okay. Someone else will have to step it up. And it will be very fortuitous if CHoP is ready about now.
Blahbaladejo? Whelen?…………Um, ok
They’re holding off on miranda? Probably want to recall a pitcher that was sent down less than 10 days ago.
The best part about our start, aside from having such a difficult schedule, is the fact that Mariano has not been used in like 10 games.
Whereas the Red Sox continue going to the well, so to speak, and burning Bard, a young kid’s arm, we have not even had to use Mariano in a while! Keeps him fresh. At this rate, he’ll pitch until he’s 50.
I’m a big Aceves fan who thinks he should be in the rotation but all of this is much ado about nothing.
You have 4 starters who average almost 7 innings a start and, for the most part, give you a chance to win each time they pitch. How many guys do you need when the give you the 7 innings, 3, including Mo? Vazquez has to start going 6 or 7 as well or it’s time to get someone else in the rotation.
That leaves 4 extra relievers for the other games where the starters get hit hard, that’s plenty of pitching. Park will be back soon, add him to Mo, Joba, and Marte and that’s pretty good-if Robertson comes out of his funk that’s even better. The other two spots are throwaways because you can’t win every game.
Stoneburner was excellent the day I saw him pitch. Nice for him.
MG agreed.
There’s about a 4-hour window starting at 8pm EST where the game could be played.
http://www.weather.com/weather...../38184:20#
Alby, Whelan?? They SUCK! Melancon has yet to show that he belongs with the big club (though he hasn’t gotten much of a chance).
Don’t be such a homer, though. If we suffer another blow to the bullpen, Cashman will have to make some kind of move. We can’t rely on guys like Alby, Ramulo, “Can’t throw strikes” Whelan (lol) or Ring (lol).
Right now, I guess they don’t “need” Miranda. I mean Thames can cover the DH duties, right? Not idea, but the focus at least for the time being will be trying to reform the pitching staff as best as possible.
It now becomes more important than it was for Javy to be able to go some distance.
The whole complexion of our pitching situation could change for the better after tonite.
All that it would take is for Javier Vasquez to get back on the beam, and pitch a competitive game against the Tigers.
It’s that simple. He can do it.
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos May 11th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
That’s too bad about Alfredo. Okay. Someone else will have to step it up. And it will be very fortuitous if CHoP is ready about now.
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Sounds like Park is getting closer to coming back!
Ace has only pitched 12 innings this year, that’s not tough to replace, particularly with Park almost back.
Rebecca – Hi, where have you been? Hope all is well. You’ve been missed.
Unfortunately, some things here are the same. Like irrational whining.
I have a lot of faith in the Yankees management when it comes to making roster moves, when necessary.
Some of you that are thinking about jumping off the bridge, take a breathe already.
There are far too many “trolls” here that believe the Yankees should win every game and that every player on the roster will never fail.
SHUT UP!!
I’ve seen enough of Melancon
Last year he was hitting and walking everyone
This year he gave up a 3-R HR to Konerko
He is not the answer. Either is Albaladejo or Whelan.
Radar is starting to clear west of Detroit, should be good in about an hour and a half.
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.....38;loop=no
Ledger_Yankees Re Miranda: Person with knowledge of situation says his plane had mechanical problems so he didn’t make it to Detroit. Move still planned
Javy Vasquez is a Stahting Pitcha, and this game is gonna be played.
Viva Puerto Rico. Go Javy.
It’s amazing how little about baseball some of you guys actually know!
If you think Ca$h is going to make a move to bring in a 1 inning reliever with 9 guys in his organization that he knows have talent to do the job for the next 2-3 weeks then you should at least turn off the wii and pay attention a lil bit more before posting.
Remember when Brian Cashman decided to put Hughes in the rotation over Joba and Hughes then proceeded to pitch like a frontline starter at the ripe age of 23?
Pretty smart guy.
Peter Gammons just said Beckett’s problem was his “slide step”
He had the best stuff on Friday night as he’s had all season.
1. I think they try to get the game in. The weather tomorrow and Wednesday nights is iffy, also.
2. Good thing Cash snapped up Park over the winter. As has been pointed out, the Yanks have not been dependent on Ace providing innings, so his injury should not devastate the team. Having said that, I hope he comes back soon. He seems like a good guy, and I wish him well.
3. Doreen, I think Thames needs someone to platoon with for dh. I don’t know about his ABs against righties. Besides, Miranda isn’t exactly a spring chicken. The Yanks need to find out about him. Not that he’s going to move Tex aside, but they need to know if they can move him in a deal. (I know, that sounds cold, but it’s the reality of baseball. Nothing personal, just business.)
Erin-
Oh no. They had to put Miranda’s plane on the DL too.
Hank
Questions?
What did Whelan do last year?
What does he throw?
Where did he come from?
LOL Too bad that stuff lasted for all of 3 innings before Josh melted down….
NYK
what was Whelan’s k/9 rate last year in Scranton?
how many games did he save?
any idea at all?
Betsy
Im not saying that. Thats what Peter said.
Saying they have 9 guys in the organization to replace Ace is an overstatement.
I don’t know why people continue to overstate legitimate prospects in the organization when they don’t have to. Just looking at what is reasonable is enough to make the point.
Park can replace Ace. Sanchez, Melancon or Hirsh are other options.
Everybody else really isn’t.
In an ideal world, they would rather have Ivan Nova continue to start in AAA once he fills his role here for a bit.
They aren’t going to call up guys like Albie or Whelan or McAllister or Igawa for that matter. They aren’t on the radar.
Royce Ring? A possibility to maybe replace Logan down the line.
Other than that, that’s it. They have enough depth. No sense overstating it.
Slide step eh?
I guess Varitek’s and Martinez’s trouble behind the dish to throw anyone out is really starting to affect their SP more than just having some many guys standing on 2nd instead of 1st.
Makes you wonder even more how you make a commitment to run prevention, yet you somehow forgot you have not one but 2 catchers who are abysmal behind the plate.
champ
1. He was pretty good ERA-wise but walked a ton of guys (40 or so I think in like 63 innings), as he has done his entire career.
2. He throws in the mid-upper 90s with a nice splitter
3. Like every pitcher, he is from Texas.
Too bad? That was great!
Boston Red Sox pitcher Josh Beckett will “in all likelihood” miss his scheduled start Friday with back spasms, but manager Terry Francona said Tuesday afternoon that medical tests did not reveal anything major.
Francona did not indicate when Beckett would make his next start, saying it would depend on how quickly he bounced back. If he’s not ready to return by next Tuesday in New York against the Yankees, it could mean another start for Wakefield.
Beckett experienced the bask spasms while swinging a bat before Monday night’s game against the Toronto Blue Jays. He was part of a group of pitchers taking swings in the indoor cage just before the game, Francona said Monday, when he felt his back “grab” on him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=5181340
MTU(aka GBURL) May 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Erin-
Oh no. They had to put Miranda’s plane on the DL too
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CR, I know that. I like Peter, but his comment was pretty silly.
lol
Francona said Tuesday he wasn’t sure which side of Beckett’s back was ailing.
“Left or right,” Francona said, smiling. “As Manny [Ramirez] said, ‘pick one.’”
New Post: Rained out
I don’t care what his K rate was/is in Scranton he’s not on the Yankees radar.
Whelan isn’t an option. They don’t see him as a prospect.
He’s a guy they hope pitches well enough so they can deal him at some point to help the parent club.
Minor League stats often don’t tell the entire story about a prospect.
Edwar Ramirez put up eyepopping minor league stats. He had a better K rate than Whelan.
How has it worked out for him at the ML level?
There is more to evaluating propsects than just looking at stats.
So we’ll be facing Dice-K and either Beckett or Wakefield next week.
# champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
It’s amazing how little about baseball some of you guys actually know!
If you think Ca$h is going to make a move to bring in a 1 inning reliever with 9 guys in his organization that he knows have talent to do the job for the next 2-3 weeks then you should at least turn off the wii and pay attention a lil bit more before posting.
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It’s amazing you even think Alby, Whelan (lol), or Ring (LOL) are even good. Take a look at how Whelan is doing in AAA. You think he’s ready to contribute?
You’re just a big homer, buddy. Just admit it! You need to stop jacking off to scouting reports done by some wannabe scout and look at stats.
The point SJ, and it’s not an overstatement, is that before Cashman would pick up the phone to go find a 1 inning reliever for the next 2-3 weeks he’d call SWB and order up each and every one of the guys who you stated are not on the radar.
Please don’t start with the silly “prospect” argument tonight I’m just not up to a pointless argument.
I’m responding to the idiot who thinks we need to make a trade for a relief pitcher for the next 3 weeks.
Joe, I agree about finding out what we have with Miranda: no time like the present.
[Careful, though - Brandon has a mancrush on Miranda and will holler if he reads you
mentioning the words "Miranda" and "trade" in the same sentence.]
Whelan is in complete organizational limbo. I believe he started the season inactive. He wasn’t even on the AAA roster. They had him stashed on the Staten Island roster or something. It was only when injuries and call ups developed that they even activated him.
His arm action is such that he probably won’t be able to command the ball and throw strikes. His best bet would be a trade to an NL team.
exactly the stats I’m looking at are a pitcher who in his 6 yr professional career has an era of 3 120 fewer hits than innings pitched and 375ks in 274 ip and has given up a total of 10 homers.
I’m not a homer numbnut but you are a numbnut who has no idea what you’re talking about.
I’ve also actually seen Whelan pitch whereas you clearly only know what he did last week!
and speaking of stats loser Alby’s stats right now are great….. 1.76 era/ 18k’s in 15 innings and he’s closing for SWB right now…..what’s wrong with that?
Champ,
I’ve seen Kevin Whalen pitch for 4 years. You make these silly assumptions that aren’t true all the time.
How about this. We can make a friendly wager.
I will bet you that Whelan never gets the call from the Yankees this year to help their bullpen.
If I’m right, you stop posting about every minor league player as if they are a legitimate prospect for a week.
If I’m wrong, I won’t post on the blog for a week. Deal?
What’s wrong with that? He’s shown to be ineffective getting MAJOR LEAGUE hitters out.
Did you ever stop to realize that, regardless of stats, some guys are just AAAA type of players?
Shelley Duncan tore up AAA. Couldn’t do that over the long haul in the majors.
Edwar Ramirez the same way.
Kei Igawa is the all-time wins leader in Scranton history. ‘Ya think that helps the Yankees?
Not every guy putting up numbers in the minors is a prospect.
That’s what you don’t understand.
i’m not worried at 21-10 but some of you are a little too easy over the pitching.
We have one starter who has a mystery ailment, one who has a 9.78 ERA, afill-in starter who knows what he’ll do, areliever going on the dl, one there whomay come off in a week but even if he does is a question mark, one reliever we thought would be good but can’3 get people out, a call-)p lefty specialist who specializes in walking people, and a kid just called up.
Meanwhile our starter tonight might not go five and we have two and a half reliable relievers.
The pitching at AAA is now thin unless you are an Albaladejo fan.
And we are in the midst of a tough 20 game stretch.
Just thinking out loud what we all know.
Melancon- No ( but probable call-up ) I don’t see him EVER being a HIT in NY ! Miranda has never had an extended chance, but I don’t don’t see him working out in NY. Sanchez should get a chance-yes.
Maybe one of the AAA outfielders should get a chance to REPLACE WINN !!! Golson, Winfree, even Curtis.
And don’t forget, there’s always a possible trade ( Shhh.. Vazquez)
Forgot that Curtis is hurt.
Wouldn’t mind seeing Winfree get a call-up. Sometimes guys do better in majors ( i.e. Cervelli)