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Sherman: Miranda being called up

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 11, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joel Sherman is reporting that Juan Miranda is being called up from Scranton/Wilkes-Barre to give the Yankees a lefty bat. Obviously he won’t be starting ahead of Mark Teixeira at first base, so I have to assume the Yankees see Miranda as a designated hitter against right-handed pitchers.

Of course, it might not matter today. Right now it’s pouring outside my hotel window in Detroit.

As for a move to make room for Miranda, Boone Logan and Kevin Russo would seem to be the most logical candidates for an option back to Triple-A.

 
 

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143 Responses to “Sherman: Miranda being called up”

  1. Mike_Boston May 11th, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    Repost: No offense to the poster of this today but trading Romine for Damon this year could be the dumbest thing I’ve read in awhile.

    If the Tigers move him it’s because they’re out of it and they want to dump salary. They would take the proverbial bag of balls as long as they’re off the hook for the $. You don’t move Romine unless a young stud at a premium position is involved.

  2. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    G. Love and SJ44,

    Certainly agreed. The Royals have no incentive to trade him right this minute but if I’m the Royals and my guy looks like he wants out (why wouldn’t he when the team is miserable and a perpetual bottom basement dweller?) heading into his last 2 contract years at 14 mil per, I’d at least listen. When crunch time comes after 2011, gun pressed to their heads and Greinke looking for a place to win, he’s a goner. How could anyone ANYONE elect to remain in KC when you have a perfectly good escape route? Just because the Royals want to keep him for ticket sales, doesn’t mean he wants to stay.

  3. Gary Gnu May 11th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Good re-post, Mike_Boston, because that is absolutely the most-asinine thing I have read in my entire life. It deserves to be re-posted and absolutely shredded.

    Just a heads-up for the original poster: sniffing glue is very, very harmful.

  4. CB May 11th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    (repost):

    Last season Jeter had tremendous success swinging early in the count. He seemed to be making a conscious adjustment to how he was being approached in prior seasons.

    This year the league seems to have adjusted back and he’s not getting the same pitches to hit early in the count.

    Jeter needs to adjust back and get back to being the patient hitter he’s been for most of his career.

    But this recurrent conversation about his production to date and whether or not it is a marker for the decline people have been bracing for for years is very premature.

    You can’t make much out of the data unless you couple data to speculation which in turn makes data not that useful for drawing inference.

    Nor does that speculation create new hypothesis as people have been worried about Jeter’s demise (move off SS, etc.) for years now.

  5. Shame Spencer May 11th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Mike_Boston – totally agree. who would trade what could be a good catcher for an aging left fielder/DH? No one. Thank god LoHud is more fanfiction than reality..

    Anyway, Doreen, I have a question since I’m new to the game – we get to pick new line ups if the game is rained out right? I figure you won’t hold us to our guesses today but one can never be to sure with GTLU. Its a ruthless game.

  6. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    But the last place Greinke would want to come to is here to the Yanks as he’s stated at least on 3 occasions.

  7. upstate kate May 11th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Doreen

    SS Jeet
    RF Swish
    1B Tex
    3B Alex
    2B Robbie
    C Posada
    DH Miranda
    CF GGBG
    LF Winn

    thanks for hosting!

  8. Chan Ho May 11th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    HELLO SNITCHES

  9. Gary Gnu May 11th, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Hey, do you think we should trade Jesus Montero to the Giants for Mark DeRosa?

    (j/k)

  10. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Champ,

    I hadn’t heard that. What else could he say at the time, locked on a small market team with an anti big market fan base some 3 or 4 years from free agency? Moose probably never wanted to pitch in New York either. Plenty of players don’t want to come here but change their tune when they arrive.

  11. blake May 11th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    CB,
    Good analysis. Jeter has been terrific at making adjustmemts throughout his career. No reason to think he won’t again.

  12. Mike_Boston May 11th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Unless the person is just trying to cite reactions or trying to be facetious…Oh and whoever posted that Damon wasn’t playing last night because they heard it on Kay’s show, why say that? My new rule, don’t believe anything written by posters unless there is a real source behind it that can be substantiated.

  13. Shame Spencer May 11th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Bret the Hitman – adding 6 or 7 zeros at the end of a guys paycheck can usually do that.

  14. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    BTW Champ,

    I think Greinke’s NTC is for 2010. If the Yankees were to ever acquire him via trade, it doesn’t matter if he wants to pitch here or not. He should feel flattered if the team goes out of their way to acquire him.

  15. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    If the game is rained out, do you skip Javy or push Phil and everyone else back?

  16. Phil the Thrill May 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    I think Miranda will rake this time.

  17. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    GTLU

    SS Jeter
    RF Swish
    1B Tex
    3B ARod
    2B Cano
    C Posada
    DH Miranda
    CF Gardy
    LF Winn

    SP Javy…(6+ 3runs/5hits/7ks and a W)…..

  18. Patrick from CT May 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Repost:

    Patrick from CT May 11th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
    If Juan Miranda is infact with the team and Jorge is ready to catch back to back games then maybe Miranda is DH?n.

    I?ll go with this lineup for tonight:

    Derek Jeter SS
    Nick Swisher RF
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Alex Rodriguez 3B
    Robinson Cano 2B
    Jorge Posada DH
    Brett Gardner CF
    Francisco Cervelli C
    Randy Winn LF

  19. Gary Gnu May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    I think Javy makes the next start, now matter what.

    At some point (and sooner rather than later), they have to get him straightened out.

  20. Gary Gnu May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    *no matter what.

  21. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Like I said earlier, if Derek Jeter is the biggest “problem” on this team, they are in good shape.

    One thing as consistent as anything on here…..

    Everytime the Yankees lose a game, certain people want to blow up the roster. Its been that way ever since the blog started.

    Unfortunately, its not a video game.

    Guys get hurt, you have to play bench guys more than you like. They are bench guys for a reason. Its because they aren’t good enough to play everyday and when they do, their flaws show up bigtime.

    No quality guy like a Ty Wiggington is going to sign with the Yankees in the off-season because they make their money by PLAYING and not sitting.

    That’s why the bench is not going to be filled with the quality some seem to think it should be.

    So far, the Yankees have survived the injuries and poor starts by some very, very well. It speaks to how well the bench has performed to date.

    Last night was the first night the injuries really impacted a game. Its going to happen a few more times until Granderson gets back.

    You just gotta deal with it and move on.

    They aren’t blowing up the roster of this team because they may lose some games in May.

  22. Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    CB,

    Good post but despite Jeter’s approach last year (swinging at a lot of pitches), he didn’t swing nearly as much as he is this year.

    It’s obviously too early to predict that he’s done though.

  23. upstate kate May 11th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    If the game is rained out, I think everyone gets pushed back. Javy needs to start, so the Yankees know what to do w/ him.

  24. Bronx Jeers May 11th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    The inclusion of Miranda on the 25 man will give them representation from 6 different Latin American countries.

    Panama
    Venezuela
    Cuba
    Republica Dominicana
    Puerto Rico
    Mexico

    The Team of the Americas

  25. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Gary, true…….actually, you could skip Phil then since he’s got innings limits and the Yanks will have to skip him eventually.

  26. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    The Yanks nor would any team trade for a player that they know does not want to play for them.

    Greinke has anxiety issues and kudos to him for dealing with that issue but the bright lights and the big stage and impossible scrutiny that come along with playing here are not a recipe for a player like Greinke and I think that he knows that which is why he’s stated that he has no interest in playing here.

    I could see him on the Dodgers or Cubs or even a team like Seattle…in fact it’s a shame the Dodgers for one don’t have the prospects to make that happen as a 1-2-3 of Greinke-Kershaw-Billingsly would be killer for the next 4-5yrs…

  27. benfica356 May 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Radar looks heavy now but should be done by gametime

  28. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Add Park to the list of players being out that has hurt the team.

    Its forced Girardi to use Robertson more, despite his struggles, and has Boone Logan on this roster, who has been terrible.

    With Ace and Joba throwing the ball the way they have, and Mariano being Mariano, Chan Ho Park becomes an important piece of the bullpen puzzle.

    If he can get back soon and pitch effectively, Girardi has his bullpen roles fleshed out.

    That can do nothing but help this team.

  29. m May 11th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    The right thing to do is to push everyone back. But boy, is it tempting.

    SJ is right. Last night’s the last game is the first game we lost in a while because we couldn’t muster enough runs. Not saying we don’t need NJ & CG, but what’s the record since they’ve been out? Not bad, right? People weren’t expecting us to win all those games. The over-reaction yesterday was too much.

    Get Thames out of LF, please.

  30. Pat M. May 11th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Maybe I’m watching a different NY Yankee club, because the Derek Jeter I’m watching doesn’t look like a ballplayer that has lost anything……As Blake pointed out, he hit two drives that found leather somehow…..They find grass & this discussion never takes place

  31. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Champ,

    You are not his shrink. Just sayin’.

    Moose was extreme OCD.

    The bright lights didn’t blind him.

  32. MG May 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    cmon, SJ, that’s not the way modern baseball is played, you should know that by now. I think the bridge jumpers and roster demolition experts have it exactly right.

    there is no reason the Yankees should have lost any games this year, it’s all the fault of Javy, AJ, Derek, Arod, Teix, Grandy, Jorge, Winn, Thames, Robertson, and anyone else who either gave up a hit, made an error, or left a guy on base. The nerve of them…

  33. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Park has definitely been missed, especially since he can go multiple innings. I don’t care how hard Logan throws – he can’t hit the side of a barn right now.

  34. G. Love May 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Robertsen looked a lot more aggressive last night. While he threw a few cookie type fastballs, he had a more “get it done” mound presence than we’ve seen of him lately.

    I hope last night was a turning point for him this season.

  35. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Benfica, thanks!

    M, tempting to what – skip Javy?

  36. Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Really if you think about it, a lot has gone wrong for this team.

    Worse than expected:
    Granderson injured
    Park injured
    Nick Johnson’s performance then injury
    Vazquez’s performance
    Jeter slightly sub-par
    A-rod below what expected
    Tex’s cold start
    David Robertson’s been bad
    Minor injuries to Posada, Aceves, Pettitte

    Better than expected:
    Cano
    Gardner
    Hughes
    Pettitte

  37. Irreverent Discourse - Welcoming Miranda to his fantasy squad May 11th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    add cervelli to your better than expected list…
    and swisher.

  38. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Robertson needs to join the party, so true.

  39. Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Pat M,

    Jeter’s plate discipline has been sub-par this year. That’s what we are talking about. I think he can start seeing the ball better and cut back on some swings he’ll be fine because when he makes contact he looks good.

  40. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    I couldn’t believe what I read on this board last night. Ok, Randy Winn had a terrible at bat, but he’s selfish and doesn’t care about the team? The game was on him and him alone? Forget the fact they decided not to hit until it was too late or that they played bad D. Thank goodness the Yankees don’t blame each other individually each time a game is lost; they win as a team and they lose as a team.

  41. Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Ireverent,

    Cervelli yes, Swisher no

  42. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Jeter was batting .330 until recently – I wouldn’t call him subpar at all.

  43. Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Jeter was batting .330 until recently – I wouldn’t call him subpar at all.

    OBP 2009: .406
    OBP 2010: .324

    Not saying it will continue but so far he’s been sub-par (especially considering he’s a leadoff hitter).

  44. MG May 11th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    In 2003 Jeter was hitting under the Mendoza line until late May, did that mean he was finished as well? And, if Ordonez doesn’t make that catch last night all we’re hearing today is how clutch Jeter is late in the game as the Yankees pull one out.

    Some of you just don’t have a clue about baseball, it’s all about adjustments as CB said earlier in this thread. Jeter has 4 HR already and has hit with more power than in past seasons, he’ll bust out of this slump and rake it for about a month before too long, he’s done it his entire career.

  45. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    I’m more worried about Arod. Subtract that meaningless last game of the 2009 and he has 28 HR coming into 2010, questions about his hip and speculation that he went from a 50 HR potential guy to nearly half that amount due to steroid usage.

  46. upstate kate May 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Last night was a team loss, there is no need to scapegoat any particular player.
    The team must have been exhausted after late night travel and a grueling series w/ the sox, it could have been a lot worse.
    That being said, they only lost by a run, and had men on base the 7th and 8th inning.
    Mitre kept them in the game and lasted longer than I thought he would.
    Joba was great and D-rob was good as well.

  47. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Patrick,

    So true.

    That’s why I don’t get the chicken little crowd.

    In fact, LITTLE has gone right for the Yankees so far this year and they are 21-10!

    Put it another way……its certainly not gone the way they drew it up to start the season.

    Yet, they are winning! They have only lost ONE series so far this year.

    NOBODY in baseball can say that yet, we have folks on here acting as if Cashman destroyed the team.

    I get the fact that logic often escapes any sports blog. However, its ok to think logically here.

    This team will eventually have everybody back and be firing on all cylinders.

    If things break right, it will come around the time the schedule becomes friendlier.

    When that happens, they will roll. Especially since they are a dominant home team and they haven’t played a lot of home games to date.

  48. Pat M. May 11th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    I give up…..I’ll revisit this topic after Derek turns in a few 3 for 4 games in a row and then what ????

  49. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    I’m not speculating that way about Alex at all and really, the guy missed a month of last season due to hip surgery; how many HRs did you expect him to hit?

  50. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    You can’t subtract games that you don’t consider “count” to make evaluations of players.

    The guy had one of the most dominant post-season’s in history, post-hip operation.

    He’s moving around better at third than he has in years.

    He’s hitting the ball hard, just not with power yet.

    That will come.

    He’s not a problem.

  51. MG May 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    In 2009, on May 10th, Jeter was batting .273 with 4 HR and 13 RBIs

    In 2010, on May 10th, Jeter is batting .286 with 4 HR and 22 RBIs.

    And the argument about him is ?

  52. UnKnown May 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    GTLU

    Jeter SS
    Gardner CF
    Tex 1B
    Alex 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada C
    Swisher RF
    Miranda DH
    Winn LF

  53. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    I don’t have to be his shrink all I have to do is be smart enough to recognize when some thing is not a fit.

    Greinke was in fact responding to the rumors a couple of years ago-which were totally true- that Ca$h was talking to the Royals GM about Greinke because we were very interested in him.
    When a player is that adamant about not wanting to wear your uni you cross that player off your wishlist.

    If that player changes his tune then maybe you can rekindle interest.

  54. Stan May 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Is there anyplace where intelligent Yankee fans can discuss the team?

    Really? If you didn’t look at the standings, you’d think this team was in last place from reading the nonsense here.

    Every team, no matter how good, loses at least 1/3 of their games people. In case you are mathematically challenged, that’s at least 54 loses.

  55. Stan May 11th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Is there anyplace where intelligent Yankee fans can discuss the team?

    Really? If you didn’t look at the standings, you’d think this team was in last place from reading the nonsense here.

    Every team, no matter how good, loses at least 1/3 of their games people. In case you are mathematically challenged, that’s at least 54 loses.

  56. Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    SJ44,

    Yep, agreed.

    The starting pitching has really carried this team in a big way. And that’s with perhaps the 2nd or 3rd best pitcher on the team pitching to a 9 ERA.

    This team trails only Tampa in run differential (who has had a somewhat fluky start) and they are only going to get better.

    Fans go a bit crazy when the team loses 2 in a row so I’m not surprised there is a lot of nonsense around here today. Hopefully the rain stops and Vazquez pitches well tonight and gets the win!

  57. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    With the hip surgery and withdrawal of PED usage (and we don’t know exactly how heavily or how long he used them) there are specific tangible events that can shift a career to the downswing. With Jeter, nothing major happened recently that could explain significant decline in production. Jeter won’t get old overnight. Arod, though one year younger, might. There are specific concerns with Arod, not so much with Derek.

  58. MG May 11th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Stan, try this: http://yankeesboard2010.proboards.com/

    No bashing, lots of fun, good baseball talk

  59. Erin May 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    upstate kate May 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
    Last night was a team loss, there is no need to scapegoat any particular player.
    The team must have been exhausted after late night travel and a grueling series w/ the sox, it could have been a lot worse.
    That being said, they only lost by a run, and had men on base the 7th and 8th inning.
    Mitre kept them in the game and lasted longer than I thought he would.
    Joba was great and D-rob was good as well.

    ***************************
    kate, great post. I agree :)

  60. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Champ,

    I have a hard time believing that the NYY scouts and front office talent evaluators wouldn’t target a talent like Zach Greinke. BTW, Zach Greinke was mired in depression at the time of those comments and had not yet been remade, therefore, he was on the trade block.

  61. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    All the positives being said, Javy is a legitimate concern. You could worry about Andy as well; I won’t at this point, but it’s not going overboard to do so. Phil has his innings limits and, at some point, he’s going to hit a bump in the road due either to fatigue or just a general slump.

  62. Billy D May 11th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    “Better than expected:
    Cano
    Gardner
    Hughes
    Pettitte”

    Swisher’s got to be in there. He’s a .250 hitter, hitting .306 and an .840 – .850 OPS guy posting a .970. Only way one could expect that is if they ignored his 5 previous seasons.

  63. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    There is no “downturn” to his perfomance though.

    He dominated in the post-season. You forget that in your “analysis”.

    He’s moving around very well this year and is swinging the bat better recently.

    He hasn’t hit for power yet. So what? Mark Teixeira didn’t do anything in April.

    Its baseball. Its an up and down sport.

    You can’t cite any specific examples of him “coming down from PED use”, except rampant speculation.

    Come up with something more than unsubstantiated speculation.

  64. Shame Spencer May 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Stan – it comes with the territory of being a fan. As far as I’m concerned, we should win 162 games every season. I realize this is demanding and irrational, but I’m a Yankees fan, that’s what we’re good at.

  65. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    Sorry SJ44,

    A drop off in power from any and every single steroid era power hitter will draw concern.

  66. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Of course they would target his talent in fact they have. However just routine background work would also reveal that he’s very opposed to being a Yankee and playing in “the big city”.

    And he most recently made those comments last year in the middle of his CY Young season.

    Again if the Royals were to make him available the Yanks would be in the mix up until they were informed that Zach does not want to be a Yankee nor does he want to play in NY at which point they’d move on.
    If on the other hand they were told that Zach’s had a change of heart and would really like to be a Yankee they’ll begin looking for a jersey with a small number on the back to fit him in.

  67. Billy D May 11th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    “A drop off in power from any and every single steroid era power hitter will draw concern.”

    True enough. Probably still a bit early to draw such a conclusion though.

  68. Jerkface May 11th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    The argument about Jeter is purely based on his approach at the plate. Fact of the matter is, Jeter had a ridiculous May last year. .900+ OPS 20+ LD% and he was walking in 8% of his PA before May. Jeter only had 1 BB% month under 8.7 in 2009 and it was August, where he happened to have a .900+ OPS from scalding the ball.

    So far in 2010 he has had a 3% and a 7% (ongoing)

    Walking helps the team when you’re slumping, Jeter is getting away from that.

  69. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Those are just words, Champ. It’s not like Zach is an ornery or potential hostile personality. He’s low key. He’s a good guy it seems. I don’t see any red flags. He’s got far too much talent to be hindered or diminished by scenery alone.

  70. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    You don’t know if there IS a dropoff in power.

    Why not wait until the end of the year to evaluate?

    He wasn’t going to hit 50 HR’s this year. Most likely, nobody will.

    You do this baseless speculation all the time and you are never correct.

    Take a deep breath and let the season breathe.

  71. Bad Scooter May 11th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    SJ – What are Arod’s May numbers?

  72. Devin May 11th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Jeter is the least of our issues. Relax

  73. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Was there a hip surgery in there or am I imagining things?

    Did a 50 HR guy drop to 30 HR last year or was I hallucinating?

    Does that same guy have 3 HR so far nearly one quarter a way through the season or am I high?

  74. Yanks May 11th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Put a cork in it SJ.

  75. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    I am a bit concerned about Alex’s lack of power, but it has absolutely nothing to do with steroids.

  76. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    To play devil’s advocate on the ARod subject

    ARod through 112 abs has 3 homers putting him on pace to hit about 15…he hit 54 2 yrs ago.

    The inference over the winter was that his relationship with Dr. Galea is that he was being supplied HGH last year as part of his treatment.

    If that was the case and the Doc got busted then ARod being smart would have to discontinue his usage which could explain to a cynical person his downtrending power #’s so far….

    not that I believe that but I’m just saying…

  77. Bad Scooter May 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Hilarious. This team has won 9 of their first 10 series this year and people are complaining. Fire Cashman? The only way nobody complains is if they were undefeated.

  78. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    No, I won’t “yanks”. So, change your name again, as you do everyday here, and come up with something else, twerp.

  79. CR9 May 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    I cant believe the uproar about Jeter. While members of the media or praying and claiming a comeback from Ortiz, silly Yankees fans are thinking this is the end of the Jeter! :lol:

  80. MG May 11th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    the only difference I see in Arod this year is he isn’t driving balls to right center field with any frequency, it seems like he’s trying to pull everything. He’ll adjust and the HR totals will increase.

  81. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    SJ,

    Just so you know, Yanks was not me.

  82. Jerkface May 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Its not the end of Jeter, but it might be the end of Jeter the leadoff hitter.

  83. Billy D May 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    “What are Arod’s May numbers?”

    .393 (11 for 28) – a homer, 6 rbi – 1.036 OPS

  84. Bad Scooter May 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Bret – We’re only 19% through the season. 35 HR’s is a fine season and Arod will have a fine season.

  85. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    He missed a month of the season; just how many HRs did you expect him to hit? Then, once he got back, of course it was going to take some time to get in a groove. Anyway, it’s all speculation.

  86. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    You don’t have to be an ornery person to be uncomfortable in NY.

    There a quite a few players that when they visit NY for a 3 or 4 game series hole themselves up and never leave their hotel rooms just because they find it all overwhelming.

    They aren’t just words they’re HIS words and reflect HIS thoughts and fellings on the subject of playing in NY and I believe Boston if I remember his quotes correctly and that’s all that matters re

  87. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Champ,

    That’s interesting. Again, I don’t understand why people think Jeter will lose it overnight and point to all these numbers as warning signs. If you take major surgeries and withdrawal from possible rampant steroid usage into account, there is far more material available to concern troll over Arod’s current numbers almost one quarter into the season.

    Again. I am not worried about Jeter growing old overnight.

    He’s in a slump.

  88. Jerkface May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    A-rod hits most of his HR’s up the middle or pulled. He doesn’t actually hit very many opposite way, though I don’t know if the Yankee Bullpen is considered pulled or up the middle

  89. Billy D May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    “While members of the media or praying and claiming a comeback from Ortiz”

    Not sure what media you’re getting, but I’ve seen two national guys suggest he’ll be released by Father’s Day (Olney actually said Memorial Day) and the Boston writers have had him on a spit since almost Day 1.

  90. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    When did the baseball season become a month long? I really can’t believe I’m going to quote Bill Madden, but I will. On the Daily News show last night, he said that Yankee fans think there are 162 separate seasons, that each game means the world and what happened the day/days before don’t mean a thing. He mentioned this because the host of the show asked whether Yankee fans should be concerned about AJ in Boston or whether they should be happy with 2/3 in Boston

  91. Pat M. May 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    The BoSox have only played 4 series on the road so far this season……Yanks have only played 4 series at home……This whole Derek Jeter discussion was best addressed by CB earlier today….Baseball, a constant game of adjustments

  92. blake May 11th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Let he who has never been in a hitting slump (that have played) cast the first stone in Derek Jeter’s direction.

  93. Trevor May 11th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    There’s no proof he took HGH. And there is no proof that HGH actually enhances your performance. It sounds more like it’s used to heal/recover from injuries.

  94. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Bad Scooter May 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
    Hilarious. This team has won 9 of their first 10 series this year and people are complaining. Fire Cashman? The only way nobody complains is if they were undefeated.

    ***********

    Nah- they’d still complain about the line up, bad at-bats, and the fact that the last player on the bench doesn’t hit homeruns in every at-bat.

    Some people just really enjoy being unhappy

  95. Jayson May 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Why do people keep citing batting average? It might be the most meaningless stat in baseball.

    OBP > average

  96. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Bad Scooter:

    Arod’s May stats after 8 games:

    .392 avg, 8 runs scored, 11 hits, 1 HR, 6 RBI, .527 OBP, 535 Slugging, 1.062 OPS.

  97. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    really. We as fans can pine for Greinke in pinstripes bit it may never come to pass. Maybe it does….however in the meantime I for one take comfort in the fact that we’ll continue to field a championship level club and develop our own front end starting pitching.

  98. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Teixeira 1B
    A-Rod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada C
    Thames DH
    GGBG CF
    Winn LF

    Thanks Doreen :-)

  99. vtred May 11th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Giambi still hit for power post-steroids.

    Usually it is the other areas that slow down, not the power.

  100. CR9 May 11th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Billy

    In the past couple days, with a couple hits off Burnett and the Jays, the NESN guys are saying this may be the breaking out for Ortiz.

    Regardless, the entire media is praying for a comeback for Ortiz (more than they want the end of world hunger).

    And we’ve got Yankees fans speculating the end is near for one of the greatest players to ever play this game.

  101. 66 stripes May 11th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    AdamRubinESPN

    The Phillies-Jays series has been moved from Toronto to Philly because of G20 Summit. Will be Jays “home” games, with DH and batting last.
    15 minutes ago

  102. pat May 11th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Alex has averaged 40 HRs a year since joining the Yankees but after hip surgery and being year(s)older someone looking for him to go 50 again is dreaming.

    Especially because it’s an even # year. :wink:

  103. NYY626 May 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    I dont think I can play GTLU today. With Jeter in this horrendous slump I’m sure Girardi is going to bench him tonight and play Pena, so now the bottom of the order is too confusing for me to try and figure out. Damn you Derek! :(

  104. Shame Spencer May 11th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Trevor, while you may be correct, this is what happens when a league chooses to ignore a problem. Arod, while the questions may be premature as SJ has indicated, will always be scrutinized for using HGH. It doesnt seem to matter at all that HGH has never been linked directly to increasing strength/performance. This is what the consequences are of having a Commissioner with absolutely no backbone and they will be felt for decades.

  105. ac1 May 11th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    I’m more worried about Arod. Subtract that meaningless last game of the 2009 and he has 28 HR coming into 2010, questions about his hip and speculation that he went from a 50 HR potential guy to nearly half that amount due to steroid usage.

    ___

    Except in 2007 he hit 54 homeruns and 156 RBIs.

  106. CR9 May 11th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    NYY626

    Jeter had like 3 hard hit balls last night, including the Game Winning Double in the 8th inning, that Magglio happened to decide he was going to catch, rather than go into retrieve mode like he would have against the Red Sox.

  107. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    The list of steroid abusers who lost it all overnight is extensive.

  108. champ809 May 11th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Let me go on record as saying that I think that at season’s end both ARod and tex will both be at 40-45 HRs….

    And Jeter will be somewhere between .325-.340/100+runs and 90rbis

  109. Billy D May 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    “Let he who has never been in a hitting slump (that have played) cast the first stone in Derek Jeter’s direction.”

    I find the questions of his approach to be legitimate, as even when he was going well, he was neither walking nor seeing a lot of pitches. But the fact is that 10 days ago, he had a Jeteriffic .330 avg with a .354 OBP and an .875 OPS and all was right with the world. He’s slumped the last week and half. No real cause for concern.

  110. blake May 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Ortiz can still be effective..he just has to learn to guess better and cheat to get to fastballs now. That ball he hit off AJ the other night, it looked like he started his swing before he let the ball go. It can work…just not as consistently.

  111. Erin May 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    So which of Derek/Alex gets sent down when Miranda arrives???

  112. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    NYY626 May 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    I dont think I can play GTLU today. With Jeter in this horrendous slump I?m sure Girardi is going to bench him tonight and play Pena, so now the bottom of the order is too confusing for me to try and figure out. Damn you Derek!
    **********

    I was playing with the idea of DHing Derek and playing Pena. But I never win when I overthink GTLU

  113. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    The numbers suggest Arod hasn’t “lost it” overnight.

    Unless you can neither read nor understand his May numbers to date.

  114. Erin May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    and please note my above post was sarcastic. ;)

  115. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Alex admitted to using Primobolan. It is often stacked with Testosterone and HGH, both impossible to test for in baseball.

  116. SJ44 May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Erin,

    LOL. Post of the day!!!!

  117. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Erin May 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    So which of Derek/Alex gets sent down when Miranda arrives???
    *************

    Derek Who?
    Or maybe that Rivera guy. He never pitches

  118. Rich in NJ May 11th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    They definitely don’t need 13 pitchers and Russo should be tried in LF.

  119. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Can we send trolls to AAA?

  120. blake May 11th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    I don’t think questioning the most consistent player of his generation after a month of data is legitimate at all.

  121. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
    Can we send trolls to AAA?
    ************

    Not a bad idea. Or trade them for another spare outfielder

  122. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    That’s another thing. Why exactly has Joe not found an inning to pitch Mo?

  123. Bret the Hitman May 11th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    True, Alex hasn’t lost it but there’s a precedent in baseball where steroid abusers lose it overnight.

  124. m May 11th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    No fans can be happy when their team loses, but on the bright side Tampa lost, too.

  125. Bronx Jeers May 11th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    A-Rod is also striking out a lot less.

    Over 162 games he’s on pace for 92 K’s. That’s probably around 30% less than normal.

    Is he taking a different approach? It looks like it. Taking more pitches up the middle and generally more contact.

  126. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    LOL Erica…….however, we might have to pay part of the trolls’ salary in order for the other team to take them on.

  127. NYY626 May 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    NYY626 May 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    I dont think I can play GTLU today. With Jeter in this horrendous slump I?m sure Girardi is going to bench him tonight and play Pena, so now the bottom of the order is too confusing for me to try and figure out. Damn you Derek!
    **********

    I was playing with the idea of DHing Derek and playing Pena. But I never win when I overthink GTLU
    _________________________________________________________________________
    Erica, why would you DH a guy who can’t hit/is an automatic out? Makes no sense. Let Pena play SS and have someone else DH.

  128. Dave May 11th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    “The list of steroid abusers who lost it all overnight is extensive.”

    Which cannot be discounted. Folks like to pretend the steroids never happened, but we’re going to have to deal with his physical decline eventually. It may come a little later because he is in such good shape. But really, what known steroid user aged well?

  129. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  130. Y26 May 11th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    “Is he taking a different approach? It looks like it. Taking more pitches up the middle and generally more contact.”

    Good point.

  131. Rich in NJ May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    m May 10th, 2010 at 3:12 am
    Rich,

    No way they’re going to throw a rookie out there. It’d be fun, and he’d be a better defender than Thames, but Russo’s not starting over Winn especially since he’s primarily an IF.
    __

    I just saw this:

    m

    Why is an athletic rookie a worse option that Winn, who can no longer hit, or Thames, who can no longer field?

    I agree that it would take some guts, but that doesn’t make it the wrong move.

  132. JM May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Alex is batting almost .400 in May. I wish all the other players on our roster would experience similar “declines.”

  133. Wave Your Hat May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    It’s way too soon to even begin to worry about Jeter’s hitting. Besides, it looks to me like he’s hitting OK, it’s just that he’s been going to right field too much and teams are beginning to play him like a left handed pull hitter, which is hurting him. He’ll adjust and be fine.

    However, I am beginning to be a little worried about his fielding. He looks to me like he’s lost range to his left for whatever reason, and in a player of his age that sort of thing is always worrisome.

  134. Fran (the original) May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Mel,

    You must be happy today. Nice job by the Lakers :)

  135. Billy D May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    “They definitely don’t need 13 pitchers and Russo should be tried in LF.”

    I don’t think he has 15 games in the OF as a pro. I think he should be in the OF as much as possible, but in AAA so he can get comfortable with it.

  136. pat May 11th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    “Is he taking a different approach? It looks like it. Taking more pitches up the middle and generally more contact.”

    I wrote about this in the last thread and even included an article link from today and everyone ignored it. :sad:

  137. m May 11th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    The steroid thing is in the back of my mind re: Alex. But I don’t really want to think about it. I want to be in De Nile!

    But, at some point Alex will slow down because he’ll just be plain old. How old will he be if he plays out his contract?

  138. m May 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Fran,

    Yes! Very happy! :)

    pat,

    I only jumped onto this thread. I usually read all the morning stuff, but I figured I’d see complaining or complaining about the complaining. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have ignored it. :(

  139. RL15 May 11th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Doreen,
    It is getting interesting with all the permutations…

    SS Jeter
    RF Swish
    1B Tex
    3B ARod
    2B MVP
    C Jorgie
    DH Miranda
    CF GGBG
    LF Winn

    thank you

  140. Rich in NJ May 11th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    “It’s way too soon to even begin to worry about Jeter’s hitting.”

    It is to soon to worry,but it’s not too soon to look at why he is struggling.

  141. pat May 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    m

    Can always count on you to respond to my ramblings and occasionally there is even some logic to be found in them. :wink:

  142. Jim May 11th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Isn’t it funny how Jeter has been respected throughout his career. Early on he was highly respected for his winning ways then once the Yankees stopped making it to the WS every year he became the most overrated player in the game and garnered a lot less respect. Now that he’s turned the corner and is in the downward slope (but by no means downside) of his career he’s morphed into this living legend whom everyone – from President Obama to psychotics like Dallas Braden offer the kind of respect that one saves for royalty.

  143. Thich Nhat Hahn May 11th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    question?
    do you people sit here all day in every post that is made on this site and fight and complain?
    I mean, I glanced at the daily blogs and throughout the day there are hundreds of comments on each one?
    do you guys have other things to do then sit ALL day and ALL night arguing on here?
    seriously.
    not a joke question.

    sad state of affairs this internet world has brought on us.
    try going out to a bar to watch the games and act like you do in here.
    1] you’d get the crap beat out of you for lipping off to another patron..
    2] you’d get kicked out of the establishment for sitting there all day moaning and not buying anything.

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