The return of Javier Vazquez
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc, Podcast on May 11, 2010 
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Javier Vazquez hasn’t pitched since May 1. In that time, he’s thrown two bullpens, each a little longer and more aggressive than his usual bullpen sessions.
“Usually my bullpens are nice and easy,” he said. “These I pushed it a little bit.”
There are few mysteries here. Vazquez said he hasn’t really been working on anything new. He’s been battling the same mechanical issues all season, and the bullpens didn’t tell him anything about the progress of his fastball. Basically, Vazquez said, he needs to get back in a game and find out where he stands. Is it better that he’s starting on the road instead of in the hostile environment of Yankee Stadium?
“I just need to pitch well,” he said. “On the road or at home, it doesn’t matter.”
Vazquez starts against the Tigers tonight. Here’s his session with the media from yesterday.
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Good luck, Javy. We’re rooting for ya!
I’m not expecting much from him tonight even if they play, but I’ll be hoping really hard. The Yankees need this guy to perform up to his capabilites.
NYY626 May 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Erica ? always OPPC ? Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
NYY626 May 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I dont think I can play GTLU today. With Jeter in this horrendous slump I?m sure Girardi is going to bench him tonight and play Pena, so now the bottom of the order is too confusing for me to try and figure out. Damn you Derek!
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I was playing with the idea of DHing Derek and playing Pena. But I never win when I overthink GTLU
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Erica, why would you DH a guy who can?t hit/is an automatic out? Makes no sense. Let Pena play SS and have someone else DH.
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You are right. I am so silly. Definitely DH Thames instead!
If the guy gets through 5 innings after giving up 3 runs I think we’d all take that, no?
Expect a lot of Nova tonight
Here is hoping Javy gets that Mojo back. Miranda takes over for NJ with ease and Logan is not sent down. I still think he is better than Marte.
Logan isn’t better than Marte. Not by a long shot.
There is nothing in his career, let alone his time with the Yankees, that suggests otherwise.
GTLU:
Jeter-SS
Gardner-CF
Tex-1B
ARod-SS
Cano-2B
Posada-C
Swisher-RF
Miranda-DH
Winn-LF
D Jeter SS
N Swisher RF
M Texiera 1B
A Rodriguez 3B
R Cano 2B
J Posada C
J Miranda DH
B Gardner CF
R Winn LF
Javier is going to be great tonight!!!!! IF there ever was a park for Javier to trust his stuff in, it’s Comerica!!!
Doreen,
Repost – missed the new thread while pondering all the interesting lineup permutations
SS Jeter
RF Swish
1B Tex
3B ARod
2B MVP
C Jorgie
DH Miranda
CF GGBG
LF Winn
thank you
m
42. The transition from a power 4 hitter will likely come several years before that though.
Gtlu:
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Miranda DH
Winn LF
Gardner CF
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
ARod DH
Cano 2B
Posada C
Gardner CF
Winn LF
Pena 3B
Jeter ss
Swisher rf
Tex 1b
ARod 3b
Cano 2b
Posada c
Miranda dh
Winn lf
Gardner cf
SJ, How’s Tony doing ???
Logan is what he is. He has put too many guys on base his whole career and he is continuing that trend with the yanks. I know it is a small sample size but he doesn’t instill confidence in me. He has a good arm but he is no where as good as marte.
Jeter SS
Swish RF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Thames DH
Gardner CF
Winn LF
Jeter DH
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Jorge C
Gardner CF
Winn LF
Pena 2B
If you throw in the upper 90s as Logan does, as a lefthander, you cant be afraid to throw strikes.
Anybody know if Trisha is okay?
She hasnt posted in a couple days.
Pat M,
Scufflin’ with the stick the past couple of games but, playing really well behind the dish.
Prediction: 6IP 3R
Prediction: 7IP 2R
Interesting article on si.com about how fans tend to panic early in the season:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....?eref=sihp
ss jeter
rf swisher
1b tex
3b arod
2b cano
c posada
dh miranda
lf winn
cf gardner
Thanks
pat,
Thanks for that. You’re not just a rambler. You’re the help desk, too!
A-Rod may not hit 50 homers again, but who cares. If he hits .300, he will no doubt have 100 RBIs in this lineup. Whether that is 15 HR 100 RBI or 35 HR 100 RBIs, it doesnt matter as long as he is driving in the runs.
One bright spot on Sunday’s loss was how well Romulo Sanchez pitched. Hopefully Nova can do as well if needed tonight.
CR,
Logan actually threw a nice pitch to Boesch. But as expected, he decides to be a Yankee killer and hit a RBI triple.
Tigers play Boston after we leave there (and just their luck, we face Verlander in the series finale and Boston gets to face Scherzer-Willis-Porcello), and I guarantee that Boesch will go 1-12 with 5 Ks and 8 LOB in that series.
Doreen,
I have a feeling that this is a Joe Girardi night, but here goes:
Derek SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Robbie 2B
Jorge C
Miranda DH
Brett CF
Winn LF
Thanks
Gtlu
SS Jete
RF Swish
1B Teix
3B A-Rod
2B Cano
C Posada
DH Miranda
CF GGBG
LF Winn…
I didn’t watch the whole game, but didn’t we do a pretty good job with miggy?
Unfortunately, I did see the inning with the guy who mixes in the knuckleball. He fooled the guys a lot.
Logan’s problems are two fold:
1. He doesn’t throw strikes
2. He may throw 99 mph but it’s very straight and ML hitters can turn around a straight fastball no matter how fast it is.
For Logan to become a major factor in this or any other bullpen he needs to trust his fastball and he needs to work on another pitch or two that he can throw regularly.
As an aside – did you see where Toronto will have to go to Philly to play a home series against the Phillies? The games will be played with AL rules.
Is this the Yanks only trip to Detroit this season? If so, and tonight’ game is rained out, they’d have to play a doubleheader tommorrow or Thursday. So they will wait quite a while to get tonight’s game in.
Making comments about the areas where you think the Yanks are deficient or what you think they should be doing differently is not the same as panicking or not realizing that the Yanks are 21-10 and only a half-game out of first.
Basically, it’s kind of boring to say “wow, Cano is sure playing great” or “Cervelli has really come in handy, hasn’t he”, or “I always knew Phil had it in him”.
It’s the nature of comments to pick at flaws rather than dwell on strengths.
Fran-
I had a different line up submission. This could be my big chance to gain ground
Al
Im not saying that Logan’s stuff is not good or that he cant make good pitches. Im saying that he looks afraid to throw strikes, even with his upper 90s fastball. SJ44 has said the same thing.
As for Boesch, he will go hitless for his entire career against the Red Sox.
My thinking on the lineup would be:
Derek
Gardner
Tex
Alex
Cano
Jorge
Swisher
Miranda
Winn
(this way he splits up the lefties)
SS Derek Jeter
RF Nick Swisher
1B Mark Teixeira
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
C Jorge Posada
DH Juan Miranda
LF Randy Winn
CF Brett Gardner
# pat May 11th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
“Is he taking a different approach? It looks like it. Taking more pitches up the middle and generally more contact.”
I wrote about this in the last thread and even included an article link from today and everyone ignored it.
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Sorry Pat,
Didn’t see your post. If it makes you feel better no one responded to my post either.
Cogs in the wheel of LoHud?
Doreen –
jeter ss
swish rf
tex 1b
alex 3b
cano 2b
posada c
miranda dh
winn lf
brett cf
vazquez p
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeria 1B
ARod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada DH
Gardner CF
Cervelli C
Winn LF
Yeah that sucks for Toronto. Having to deal with Phillies fans when it’s supposed to be a home game for you.
Suggesting a trade of Romine for Damon is panicking. Either that, or a joke.
Damon generally said the right things. But he may have flubbed a bit saying that he didn’t know if he’d be with the Tigers in August.
Anyone remember when the Giants got an extra home game, when the Saints had to play at the Meadowlands because of Katrina.
The Giants got bashed throughout the media, and it was said that it was “unfair”
I wonder if the media will say the same thing, with the Phillies getting 3 extra home games.
who suggested trading ROmine for Damon? That would be an 80s Steinbrenner type move.
“Suggesting a trade of Romine for Damon is panicking. Either that, or a joke.”
I missed that one, m. Must have been eating lunch. But if the Yanks wouldn’t pay Johnny $7MM, I don’t think they’d much want to pay him and give up Romine too, do you?
The weather in Detroit is apparently not good for tomorrow either
Romine for Damon has to be a joke – if it’s not, that’s just sad.
I saw a reference to it, I’ll try to track it down.
Juan Mirandi reminds me of Kendry Morales, only Juan was better. Morales got a chance with the Angels to play and has done well, (May slump asside). I think Mirandi will hit given a chance to play regularly and as a LH DH he will get ample opportunity to do so until Nick gets back.
I also think the next 2 weeks will decide if Winn will remain a Yankee IMO. He should get plenty of playing time as well the next couple of weeks. If he still looks like a project to get back on track, then Colin Curtis or Russo could be back manning LF for the Yanks. (Or a trade) I’m inclined to think Winn will step up his game a notch or two and do well. I hope he does.
# Mike_Boston May 11th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Repost: No offense to the poster of this today but trading Romine for Damon this year could be the dumbest thing I’ve read in awhile.
If the Tigers move him it’s because they’re out of it and they want to dump salary. They would take the proverbial bag of balls as long as they’re off the hook for the $. You don’t move Romine unless a young stud at a premium position is involved.
Has anyone sat in the jim beam suites at the stadium? looking for a scouting report on how good it might be
Actually the poster suggested trading “Romaine” for Damon.
I would most certainly trade lettuce for Damon or even cash which is sometimes referred to as lettuce.
That said, Michael Kay would trade Kevin Romine which would also be fine with me.
Jeers
I’ll respond to you.
I agree. Klapisch wrote an article about D Wright’s increased Ks. To paraphrase a part of it, Reggie said power hitters strike out about 100 times a year. Alot more or less than that isn’t good but about 100 means they are taking an aggressive approach which is what they need to take.
Alex seems to be taking strike 1, working counts more, using the middle of the field more and striking out less which made me wonder if Alex has changed his approach and that has contributed to his lower power numbers.
Erica,
Good luck:)
Tonight’s line-up is a tough call. Not even sure if Miranda will arrive on time but I put him in anyway.
Erika,
Are you the “newa thread” transit police? It sure seems like it
“Has anyone sat in the jim beam suites at the stadium? looking for a scouting report on how good it might be”
Tim, I sit there a lot. The seats are fine there, higher and farther back than the tier boxes behind the plate in the old stadium, but fine.
Okay, found it. It’s a regular.
And to be fair, he said he’s trade “Romaine” for him.
I guess I could part with some lettuce (lol-get it? slang for cash) for Damon. But not too much lettuce.
thanks
“Logan actually threw a nice pitch to Boesch. But as expected, he decides to be a Yankee killer and hit a RBI triple.”
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The pitch was right down the middle.
joelh May 11th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Erika,
Are you the ?newa thread? transit police? It sure seems like it
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Not quite. But its been duly noted and discuss on the blog that I have massive power issues so I try to exert myself where I can
m May 11th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Okay, found it. It?s a regular.
And to be fair, he said he?s trade ?Romaine? for him.
I guess I could part with some lettuce (lol-get it? slang for cash) for Damon. But not too much lettuce.
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Damon >>>>> Lettuce
All opposing players hate the Yankees and only want to succeed against them. Too bad that 99.9999% of their careers will be based on how they do against other teams; it would behoove them to want to do well against those teams, lol
Chip -
Your 2:16 post – are you contributing a lineup to GTLU? If so, I would need positions. If not (in my best Emily Litella voice), “never mind.”
The following people have submitted lineups for GTLU so far today:
Shame Spencer
rodg12
muffinstump
Erin
Dylan
Patrick from CT
upstate kate
champ809
UnKnown
Erica
RL15
Warning Track Power
IDCWYT
Patrick
Jay
NYYROC
Lemon
Al
Phil Columbus
Fran (the original)
Elias_in_NH
RayVT
Joe from Long Island
Oddessy
Is it okay to talk about how hot Johnny Damon is? Because he is one semi-fine piece of Wagyu Steak!
On that Logan pitch to Boesch, it seemed to me that Posada was set up for the ball to be outside. IMO, it looked like he missed his spot & came over the middle of the plate.
Boy Cano sure is playing great.
I always knew Phil had it in him.
Discuss.
Damon >>>>> Lettuce
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I dunno Lettuce is pretty healthy while your obsession of Damon is decidedly unhealthy
There should be a blog rule that every time CR9 talks about how hot a player is he has to post a picture of himself so we can all make fun of it.
This is the location for the pitch to Boesch. Logan is lucky it was only a triple.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
# Shame Spencer May 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Stan – it comes with the territory of being a fan. As far as I’m concerned, we should win 162 games every season. I realize this is demanding and irrational, but I’m a Yankees fan, that’s what we’re good at.
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Not as far from the truth as it seems.
Many Yankee fans are hated for this sense of entitlement.
If you think you are excepted because of your youth, it is passed down from generation to generation.
BTW, we have a “new” tradition of winning that has begun in 1996. This might explain why some think we have to win every game. That and a football mentality.
We play once a day, not once a week.
It was nice to see the espn crew rave about Cano’s defense. “He’s so smooth.”
Shame,
You said something that made me curious. Are you female?
Patrick
And don’t forget his dreamy eyes.
you forgot to mention how well Cervelli has been playing
I am encouraged w/ GTLU today, b/c Fran has my line up and she is the champ.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._from.html
Who knows if this means anything…….
Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Damon >>>>> Lettuce
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I dunno Lettuce is pretty healthy while your obsession of Damon is decidedly unhealthy
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I think you have me confused with someone else. Since Johnny signed with Detroit I have barely mentioned him. Until this week, and thats only because we are playing him
G. Love May 11th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Actually the poster suggested trading ?Romaine? for Damon.
I would most certainly trade lettuce for Damon or even cash which is sometimes referred to as lettuce.
That said, Michael Kay would trade Kevin Romine which would also be fine with me.
kevin Romine!! LOL! Not Austin! Kay is an id-iot!
Patrick
I would not have a problem with that. Im pretty hot myself. I’ve been told I resemble Kurt Warner, and have also been called the “side Andy Pettitte,” as I look like Andy from the side!!
M
Joe Morgan’s one redeeming quality to me is how much he loves Cano. At the start of the red sox game, he said Cano was going to be the MVP this year.
Can anyone imagine being in bed next to Frankie. I mean, one could stare at his dreamy eyes for an eternity. A person could get lost in those beautiful eyes!
Who’s Kevin Romine?
Huh! Would never picture CR9 as a bible thumper.
I kid, I kid.
CR9-
You are definitely going way too far with this
Kevin Romine is Austin’s father; he played with the Sox for a bit. Austin has a brother, Andrew, in the Angels’ organization.
Let’s hope the rain keeps up. I think it may be our best chance tonight.
Let’s hope the rain keeps up. I think it may be our best chance tonight.
Joe Morgan’s one redeeming quality to me is how much he loves Cano. At the start of the red sox game, he said Cano was going to be the MVP this year.
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Morgan is not nearly as bad as Jon Miller. I think Joe Morgan seems worse because he is paired with that putz.
“Who’s Kevin Romine?”
Austin Romine’s dad.
Betsy, thanks.
In that case. I, too, would trade Kevin Romine.
And Cervelli’s eyes are not dreamy. In fact, they’re downright scary.
You’re welcome, M!
Kate,
I hope I don’t let you down. I am not so sure about today’s line-up.
Is that picture from Javy’s first go around with the Yanks, or is it recent?
Kinda weird that he’s on his front foot before his forward arm motion starts. Maybe it’s just the camera making things look unusual.
And with McCarver, the way he insisted beckett had no intent throwing at cervelli twice (both after step outs), jeter on the first pitch, and cano’s leg, just because they were in situations that a normal person wouldnt hit someone, was just the most annoying crap i have ever heard. I mean, who was he kidding. Yes, Beckett lost control, however, he was also smiling as he lost control.
Any word on the weather? Looks like it might rain all evening.
Too many Sox connections in this organization,lol. Phil grew up a Sox fan thanks to his dad and Romine’s father actually played for them…. Oddly, they are two of my favorites.
And the strange thing is that on his own, or with a non-HOF broadcaster, jon miller is very good.
He just trips over himself trying to kiss up to joe morgan, it’s so disgusting.
Did you guys discuss Beckett? Apparently he has back issues.
Betsy is a secret Sox fan! Just like Pete A.
Get err CR9!
Miller is definitely worse than Morgan. Miller is downright ecstatic whenever Boston scores. It is extremely obvious that he’s a Boston homer.
Pat,
Hah! Reggie wishes he only struck out 100 times a season. He’s more like a 150 K guy.
It’s funny bit A-rod is the one guy on the All-time Strikeout list that could eventually pass Reggie to take the top spot. But not if he’s only going to strike out 100 times per year. That will leave him just under Reggie
Reggie’s probably calling A-Rod to ask him what the heck he’s doing!
http://www.baseball-reference......reer.shtml
Way too far? Sorry, not catching on!!
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Morgan is a buffoon too, but he clearly is not a Yankees hater. It’s Jon Miller that’s the Red Sox schill.
Morgan used to be halfway decent with Costas on NBC.
LGY
LOL. I knew that about Phil and Romine. Im Phil’s biggest fan! As long as he doesnt intentionally sabotage us because of his Sox roots, Ill continue to be his biggest fan!
Pete A was not a secret Sox fan. He admitted to it.
ac1
I can tolerate the espn guys, but buck/mccarger are beyond awful. I couldn’t believe how they said CC was wrong to hit Peds, and they were down right gleeful when Martinez hit that HR after.
LGY, not so secret, lol. Don’t you see how I am always giving them respect? That’s not respect, that’s Sox love! The real question is: if Phil left the Yankees and signed with the Sox, what would I do?
Miller’s pronunciation and inflections of words is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Bel-TRAY was making me nuts the other night.
“I couldn’t believe how they said CC was wrong to hit Peds”
Wrong on principle or wrong because giving a free base to a guy who is 1 for 19 against you is stupid?
Guess the Line Up Is Now Closed for Today. Thank you all for playing!
“That’s not respect, that’s Sox love!”
I hope that was a joke! If not, that comment is more vile than any of the offensive comments that get thrown around on here.
“Did you guys discuss Beckett? Apparently he has back issues.”
Oh he’s got more than just back issues!
Beckett’s problem is that he keeps sitting on his brains.
Jeers
So Reggie has an ulterior motive!
He has to find a balance between “not trying to do too much” and doing too little, I guess.
I don’t think the espn crew or the fox crew are sox fans either, other than defending Beckett.
I wish for nationally televised games they would have a broadcaster from each team.
Pete A – was the “interested reader”
upstate kate
they are sox fans by way of despising the Yankees. Generally, if you hate the Yankees, who are you going to pull for? The Sox. That’s Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.
ESPN is a whole different story = 99% of them are Sox fans.
Billy D
wrong on principle, b/c Beckett’s hits were “unintentional”
Laura • There is NO Sayid! May 11th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
John Miller use to do the O’s radio broadcast until he was let go fr not be a homer for their ownership. He is pretty good IMO, but he does have his favorite teams. There are quite a few others I prefer, but he’s ok!
The only thing I hope for Javy is that he doesn’t give up a grand slam to Damon tonight.
Montero grew up a Sox fan too:
In 2004, Venezuelan teenager Jesus Montero cheered when Boston won the World Series. Since then, the population of Red Sox nation has decreased by one.
Montero’s loyalty shifted in 2006 when the New York Yankees showed they had enough faith in his potential that they were willing to invest a $2 million signing bonus on a 16-year-old catcher with top-end hitting power.
http://www.postandcourier.com/.....dogs36351/
I find espn to be much more balanced since they (at least partially) went to LA. And they are not all sox fans.
“let go for not being a homer”
I think they are gonna play tonite.
forecast call for intermittent rain but Weds. forecast is worse.
There might might be delays.
Doreen,
I just looked and saw GTLU closed. The only good thing about it is that I got to see my grandson and it beats GTLU any day. Also, I haven’t been right in ages.
upstate
needed that laugh. Balanced?
Did you even see the opening night game? With Schill, Nomar, Boston Only Olney?!?!?!?!?! Stephen Tyler, Neil Diamond.
The whole pregame and game coverage was a farce.
“John Miller use to do the O’s radio broadcast”
I thought he was terrific in those days. I still like him now, but think being paired with a cumquat like Morgan really drags him down.
Beckett has back-back-back-back-back issues.
“The whole pregame and game coverage was a farce.”
You’re pretty farcical yourself, CR9.
SAS -
In honor of such a wonderful reason for missing GTLU, and because there are no lineups up yet on Twitter, if you want to submit one, I can still add it.
Michael Kay is just a tad negative, lol….
CR9
I said MORE balanced, not evenly balanced. The opening night was a home game for the sox, so it would make sense that those guys would be there.
My sister is a sox fan, and she doesn’t like miller/morgan either.
Kay is saying the weather in Detroit is just horrible. If there is a rainout they will have to play a DH since this is the only Yankees trip to Detroit.
From LoHud tweeter:
FYI: been raining steadily here in Detroit today. Last forecast I saw said that the chances of rain would die down as the night goes along.
The weather isn’t going to be good tomorrow either, unfortunately…
I’m really wishing I hadn’t looked at this:
RiverAveBlues RT @bkabak: Ugly Sports Illustrated cover or the ugliest?
http://bit.ly/cvyDGU
Bryan Hoch:
I have no idea if the Yankees & Tigers will play tonight. But the wind is howling and rain is pummeling the windows of my hotel room.
about 1 hour ago via Chromed Bird
Well, I won’t be reading it, so Tom Verducci’s brilliance will be lost on me, lol
Wow, Javy’s ERA after the first 2 innings is 15.92; he has a 20.77 ERA in half innings following innings where Yankees score.
I wish I could say I was confident that this guy would find himself, but I’m not.
Erica,
Was kidding about Damon…
CR9 on the other hand is obsessed with basically every male baseball player.
Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Erica,
Was kidding about Damon?
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Good. I didn’t want to have to stop liking you
Erin-
Did you get the e-mail I sent you last night?
Do you really think Vazquez will keep pitching at a 9 ERA? Considering his track record I’d say that’s fairly absurd…
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 11th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Well, I won?t be reading it, so Tom Verducci?s brilliance will be lost on me, lol
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Tom Verducci and “brilliant” do not belong in the same sentence.
Betsy,
If that’s the case, then cancel the season on him.
If Phil Hughes can “find it” after his troubles, Javy Vazquez certainly can.
Baseball seasons doesn’t always go in a straight line for everybody.
Don’t fall into the trap 90% of the people who post on here do and that’s take every short sample stat and expand it to an entire season of work.
If Javy Vazquez has two good starts, something he is certainly capable of doing, all of those awful stats change.
No one looks at radars? The radar shows that the game will be played. The front is almost gone. The game isn’t scheduled to start till another 4 hours.
By the way Erica, I wish that Damon was still a Yankee too
Vazquez is 2-5 lifetime in Comerica Park with a 6.09 ERA.
Just wanted to instill some additional panic for the comedic value.
Patrick
Only obsessed with the hot ones! Damon being one of them! He still looks good on Detroit, much better without facial hair. Facial hair does it for some men, like Henrik Lundqvist, but not for Damon!! ♥ JD!
I read Pete A’s chat sometimes. Thought some people might find this interesting.
He said the Yankee players thought Beckett threw at Cisco intentionally but not Jeter.
Call the PFOF’s into action!
Patrick May 11th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
By the way Erica, I wish that Damon was still a Yankee too
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Drafting him to my fantasy team helped. That way I still can find reasons to cheer for him
I never said that, Patrick…….He can still be bad and not pitch to a 9 ERA.
CR9, at least inject some humor into your homo-erotic ramblings. Like talk about how much you’d love to bang David Ortiz while Manny is watching or something. At least that’s funny
MG,
Well played! lol
That should give the Panic Patrol something to go nuts about, making the afternoon here hightly entertaining! lol
I never said that, Patrick…….He can still be bad and not pitch to a 9 ERA.
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Still absurd to think a guy with Vazquez’s track record will continue to pitch badly
Patrick
Well, now that would be inappropriate and worthy of banning me.
But if you want to replace Ortiz’s name with Jeter and Manny’s name with my gf’s name, then your above comment would be one of my wishes!!
No Beckett next week at the Stadium ………………..
http://www.bostonherald.com/sp....._earliest/
SJ, up until recently I was pretty positive that he would find it because I know Javy is a good pitcher, but I can’t help thinking ahead and what will happen if he doesn’t get it straightened out. The Yankees can’t keep running him out there if he continues to struggle (I’d better leave now before I get attacked). By the way, how long do you want to give him?
I don’t get what Phil has to do with this…….
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 11th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Erin-
Did you get the e-mail I sent you last night?
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LOL I just did! Just sent you a reply!
SJ, that equates to 4 runs in 6 innings, most of them would accept that as a ‘quality start’ for Javy.
I have no idea, Patrick. Read the articles – I have no idea what to believe. He’s messed up mentally? Physically? I have no idea, but just saying that he absolutely, positively will turn it around doesn’t make it so. I didn’t say he wouldn’t, I just said that I personally don’t have confidence that he will
the daily Over/Under on the total pitches thrown in a game before CR9 says the umpires suck and are out to get the Yankees:
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I’ll take the over! I didnt complain that much last night. Our pitchers had the smaller zone yet again, but our hitters did ourselves few favors!
Thanks a lot Doreen:
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
Arod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Miranda DH
Winn LF
Gardner CF
You are a sweetheart, but so is my little one…lol
CR9,
You see, that’s not funny or entertaining. It’s just creepy and gross.
Talk about how you dream of rubbing Kevin Youkilis’ sweaty head while Livan Hernandez gives you a back rub.
See that’s super gay and also funny. Should be a win win for you.
New Post w/lineup
Doreen,
Is it ever possible to post GTLU early or is that a pain in the neck for you?
I know I will most likely be shouted down…but what do you guys think about signing Catalanotto. I think he’d be a much better hitter then Winn he is an excellent pinch hitter, he’s a career .296 hitter VS. righties and he defense is much better then Thames.
Betsy,
Very simple. They will keep running him out there because there are no other alternatives at this time.
Where does Hughes fit in? He was lost for almost 2 years in a sea of injuries and ineffectiveness. A MUCH longer time than Javy Vazquez has EVER struggled.
Yet, the Yankees hung tough with the guy and its paid off.
Now, we want to cut bait with a veteran guy after a handful of starts? It makes no sense except for the panic stricken.
Its wonderful that the talk radio and blog world scream, GET HIM OUT OF HERE!!
However, once that crowd calms down and let’s reality set in, answer me this…..who replaces him in the rotation?
It ain’t easy to answer that question, isn’t it?
That’s why you stick with the guy and hope he get can through this rough patch because the alternatives aren’t appetizing at all.
I have no idea, Patrick. Read the articles – I have no idea what to believe. He’s messed up mentally? Physically? I have no idea, but just saying that he absolutely, positively will turn it around doesn’t make it so. I didn’t say he wouldn’t, I just said that I personally don’t have confidence that he will
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The fact is, Javy has been a good pitcher for the last 10 years and he’s 33 years old. There is no reason to believe he won’t have a good season this year too. Saying you have no confidence in him turning it around is silly based on previous data. It would essentially be like saying you have no confidence in Tex turning it around after his terrible April.
I never suggested the Yankees cut bait with Javy yet, but I believe you are trying to say I’m a hypocrite for believing one thing about Phil and another about Javy and beyond how I feel about that, it’s just not true. IMO, Phil is not a good comparison to Javy. The Yankees were looking to the future with this kid – they could afford to be patient, especially since they always remained high on him. We’re talking THIS year……I didn’t tell anyone how to feel about Javy and I never actually said “he won’t get it turned around”. Everyone is entitled to their personal feelings and right now, no – I don’t know if he will or not. He’s a good pitcher, so he absolutely could, but do I have confidence? No, because I don’t know what his problems are. Someone posted an article by former scout Frankie Piliere in which he went into great detail about Javy’s mechanical issues and he said that it would not be an easy fix. Even Cashman knows it’s not going to be a quick fix. Again, just because I don’t have confidence that he will turn it around doesn’t mean he won’t. If he doesn’t, either the Yankees make a trade or they will have a fight on their hands to make the playoffs.
I’ll let CB chime in on this, but I have an issue with labeling poor results over a limited period of time as being “small sample size” and letting it go at that.
Most of us have no clue whether any given number of data points (games, innings pitched, ABs, what have you) are sufficient to produce a statistically significant result.
For instance, let’s assume that Javy Vazquez is “really” a 4.00 ERA pitcher in the AL East. Then let’s say in 5 starts he manages 23 IP, with a 9.78 ERA and a 2.043 WHIP. At what point are you statistically justified in saying that your original assumption is false and that Vazquez is not “really” a 4.00 ERA pitcher but worse?
I don’t know.
The thing is, Vazquez may really have an issue, or maybe he doesn’t, and if he does have an issue small sample size isn’t the problem. The problem is telling if there is an issue or not.
In Javy’s case, there seems to be a clear issue, his velocity is down and his command is off. It’s not like he’s just been the victim of an absurdly high BABIP or something.
I’m usually sympathetic to the track record argument but it is also possible that the underying quality you are measuring is not in a steady state or in changing in some measurable linear or non-linear way. It could be a discontinuous function of some type.
Winn started me thinking this way, Javy has me wondering.