Golson in the house, not in the lineup
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 12, 2010 
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Greg Golson, not Juan Miranda, is listed on the lineup card as a player on the bench. So far it looks like that’s the move for Alfredo Aceves.
Derek Jeter SS
Brett Gardner CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Nick Swisher RF
Randy Winn LF
Ramiro Pena 3B
RHP Javier Vazquez
UPDATE, 11:13 a.m.: Golson has arrived. We’re still waiting to talk to Girardi about the move. I haven’t seen any other new players and the only player who seems to be missing is Aceves.
I miss the circular lineup.
Well I tried to get tricky thinking Jorge wouldn’t catch both ends of the DH.
Should have stuck with yesterday’s posted lineup.
Fran and others are leaving me in the dust. I am champion no more.
Me, too, Rich, but no one is going to feel sorry for us and the games are still going to be played. Players are just going to have to step it up………
I’m not sure I understand why Golson instead of Miranda…….
not sure i like the golson over miranda call.
how many light hitting/fast outfielders do we need on the roster?
Rich-
Right now it’s a more like an ellipse. Stretched a bit thinner.
Fran and others are leaving me in the dust. I am champion no more.
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miggs,
It’s a long season. You can’t give up now
I’d like to hear the reasoning for the Golson move.
And, on a much more important note –
Doreen – congratulations on your daughter’s graduation. Hope you have a grand day.
Is Kevin Russo still there Chad?
Was there really a need for Granderson with Gardners ability to play CF? Imagine if we kept AJax. I like Cashman but we’ve gotten rid of a few good young players in the offseason for Grandy and Javy.
It’s amazing how many people are oblivious to Granderson’s ability to hit.
People who keep harping on the Grandy and Vasquez moves please stop.
It is going to take a whole season before you can decide if the moves were actually good or bad for the team.
Give it a rest.
Was there really a need for Granderson with Gardners ability to play CF? Imagine if we kept AJax. I like Cashman but we’ve gotten rid of a few good young players in the offseason for Grandy and Javy.
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That’s usually how trades for established All-Stars work….
The Waiting is the hardest part I guess for me with Grandy as I see AJax clearly ready for the bigs.
The bleacher report .com says, the Braves want Javier, and that other NL team have called Cashman about a trade for him too. Today’s game might carry more weight than it should for Javier. The report says Cashman might wait until the end of the month to act.
I didn’t like the AJAX trade either
AA – The only thing AJax is clearly ready for is… hitting in April, when pitchers don’t have any command and rely heavily on fastballs. Add in some extreme luck with balls in play and welcome to your overhyped view of AJax.
AA-
Well then you are just going to have to learn to have some patience, huh ?
Time will tell.
Austin Jackson would have been in AAA if he was still in the Yankees organization.
Go back and watch the Red Sox game that Granderson won with a HR, and look at the back of his baseball card, if you think he can’t play.
While you are at it, take a look at the standings and tell me how the Yankees have been “hurt” by the trade.
Bleacher report is basically a blog that anyone can write on, not reliable….
Just so everybody is aware, Melky is doing TERRIBLY in Atlanta and AJax K’s all of the time. Yeah he has a high average and that’s it. While Vasquez has been bad, Granderson hasn’t been given a chance yet. Keep everything in perspective.
Phillies warned by MLB- Stop stealing signs.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......s.html.php
so if the Yankees OF consisted of GGBG, Swish and Ajax, people would be happy?
Why would they trade Javy back to ATL, and who would they trade him for?
Javy for Yuniesky anyone?
I think there is always a preference for a player the Yanks organization developed
No one likes giving up a player with Ajax’s potential but you don’t obtain a ballplayer of the caliber of CG without giving up something worthwhile. You gotta give to get. That’s all there is to it.
If CG produces like he can no one is gonna feel cheated.
upstate kate May 12th, 2010 at 10:27 am
so if the Yankees OF consisted of GGBG, Swish and Ajax, people would be happy?
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I’m sure they’d find something else to complain about.
Austin Jackson has a .500 BABIP, just relax. He’s going to have a MAJOR correction very soon. Nobody can sustain that BABIP. Don’t be shocked when Jackson starts hitting .250 with no power and high strikeouts because that’s what’s on the horizon for him.
I’m not trying to rip Jackson, he could be a good player. But to question the trade because he’s had a lucky start is just absurd.
Mark my words, Curtis Granderson will have far superior numbers by year’s end.
“upstate kate says:
May 12, 2010 at 10:27 am
so if the Yankees OF consisted of GGBG, Swish and Ajax, people would be happy?”
not everyone as Austin’s BABIP is unsustainable.
Ledger_Yankees Everybody wish Yogi a happy 85th birthday.
Happy Birthday Yogi!!!
So, I was reading through the posts this morning and I came to a conclusion.
Miggs is the most worried and panicked poster on this blog.
He is so filled with worry and panic that everytime he sees Betsy post he rambles on for paragraphs to try to relieve himself of that worry. He is literally consumed with feelings that if he does not respond to a Betsy post the world might come crashing down around him.
It seems like it is very therapeutic for such a worry wart. I hope one day miggs can cure himself of his clearly insufferable worrying.
I think they’ll regret the AJAX trade
Preference from whom? Prospect huggers?
Most people prefer having the better players since that gives you a better shot to win.
Why isn’t there an uproar over non-homegrown talents such as CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, Mark Teixeira, Nick Swisher and Alex Rodriquez?
Perhaps the Yankees should have just kept their “homegrown guys” and just passed on the above 5 players.
If they did, I don’t think folks would have been too happy.
Haiku-man May 12th, 2010 at 10:23 am
The bleacher report .com says, the Braves want Javier, and that other NL team have called Cashman about a trade for him too. Today’s game might carry more weight than it should for Javier. The report says Cashman might wait until the end of the month to act.
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This would be a step in the right direction if he were to trade Vazquez and pretty much admit he f’d up, once again, when he doesn’t have the steinbrenners millions of dollars to bail him out. Lets not forget he could have traded Kei Igawa but his dumb pride wouldn’t let him admit that he made a huge huge mistake with that signing.
Now I will change my handle if he could get the 3 players back that he traded Vazquez for (and they can have Boone Loogey back too!!)
Yanks haven’t been hurt by that trade but Cashman has always liked to have good young up & coming players in the system & very hesitant to move them. I don’t think the Yanks would be any worse if they had an OF of AJax, Gardy, Swish. Maybe in October Grandy will prove me wrong.
“Javy for Yuniesky anyone?”
You mean Yunel?
TampaYank-
Then you must have a really good crystal ball because no one else knows for sure.
Pass me your Digital mind reader please I would love to have one.
Scratching my head about Golson being the call. Miranda could of platooned at dh with Thames. Yankees have enough ofs for now.
“Patrick says:
May 12, 2010 at 10:30 am
Austin Jackson has a .500 BABIP, just relax. He’s going to have a MAJOR correction very soon. Nobody can sustain that BABIP. Don’t be shocked when Jackson starts hitting .250 with no power and high strikeouts because that’s what’s on the horizon for him.
I’m not trying to rip Jackson, he could be a good player. But to question the trade because he’s had a lucky start is just absurd.
Mark my words, Curtis Granderson will have far superior numbers by year’s end.”
So said, so done. I rest my case. By the way, in AAA last year his BABIP was .392
I found this article to be extremely interesting. It tells the readers why Javier Vazquez needs to have a strong start today. The weight of the rest of the series hangs in the balance of his Game 1 start.
http://newyorkstateofsports.co.....nks-today/
“I think they’ll regret the AJAX trade”
I think they won’t
Jackson wouldn’t have been on the team if he was still in the organization. He would have been in AAA.
I’m not sure why anyone would be worried about the way this season has started. The Yanks are tied for the fewest losses in baseball. But if for some reason, you are worried, just remind yourself it’s a marathon and not a sprint.
Yes, Russo is still here. Actually, very few players are actually here right now, but Russo’s name is still listed.
“Billy D says:
May 12, 2010 at 10:33 am
“Javy for Yuniesky anyone?”
You mean Yunel?”
yeah, that one.
Granderson will have way better numbers just watch. It’s a bit premature to say the trades are bad. Plus the Yankees are playing well.
LGY, thanks for the laugh, lol. I think it’s a pavlovian reaction with him, unfortunately.
As to Granderson, it’s pretty sad that we have to defend the trading of a raw kid (who half of Yankee fans probably didn’t even know) for an All-Star type player. Fair weather fans indeed – Granderson was ok when he was playing great, but he had the nerve to go into a slump (something never before seen on the diamond) so now he stinks. I forgot – he had even more nerve to get hurt. Austin Jackson is bulletproof – he’ll never see the DL in his life; lucky him. One caller to Michael Kay yesterday said he was ready to call the trade a bust after 1 month, but then he’s probably taking his cue from the media. On the Daily News show and Wheelhouse, one of the topics was whether the Yanks made a bad mistake letting Damon go (nevermind the facts). Really ? After one month?
The other FA additions for the most part didn’t have a guy that was major league ready…my choice would have been to keep Damon as a DH/LF for one more year than have a 2011 outfield of AJAX, Crawford, and Swisher
Unless you care about how many games Scranton wins I really don’t get why people care that Jackson has been successful.
And even if they did not trade him for Grandy, if Gardner keeps this up for the rest of the season Jackson could very well have been traded for someone else.
There was no way the Yankees would ever have Gardner and Jackson in the same OF. No power whatsoever out there except for Swish.
AA, so what does that tell you that Cashman made the trade? Yes, he likes up and coming players; he also likes to win……and Granderson is a very good ballplayer. I don’t think the Yankees will ever regret the deal even if their fans do. So much for Granderson becoming one of the most popular Yankees as I thought might happen; he’ll have AJax over his head for years, lol.
Ledger_Yankees Yankees staffers were just passing a cell phone around. On the other end? Yogi Berra. They were wishing him a happy birthday.
Granderson went into a slump and fans turned their backs lol?
I am not saying the trade was a bust. Cashman likes good, young, cost controlled players. AJax is one of them. You could conceivaably have Ajax in pinstripes for 15 years. Can you have Grandy for 15 years ?
Aww, happy birthday, Yogi!!
What I’m saying is that Cashman also likes to win; if he preferred AJax over Granderson, then he wouldn’t have made the trade.
And even if Gardner can keep this up Jackson could still likely have been trade bait.
The Yankee plan seems to be to break Montero in next year.
You really think they were going to break in 2 rookies in their lineup in the same season?
Highly doubt that.
AA Jackson is not guranteed for anything.
Gardner *can’t*
upstate kate May 12th, 2010 at 10:27 am
so if the Yankees OF consisted of GGBG, Swish and Ajax, people would be happy?
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That OF would give you about 30 homeruns total and about 400 strikeouts – not a very productive OF…
so wait… now does that count as an option on Miranda? or because the game never got played and he wasn’t added, golson is up for some other reason then I assume?
Cashman needs to go – So you have GGBG and AJax hitting exactly 0 home runs in that scenario? Oh wait, just look at the stat that proves your point :p
Come on people Granderson is an allstar CF; AJax is a long way from that.
Vasquez has stunk so far, but even if he is only a .500 pitcher that pitches 180 innings, it won’t be bad out of the #4 or #5 slot.
The one move that may not look so good by years end is Nick Johnson. The guy is always on the DL and Johnny Damon almost never. It’s too bad for both Damon and the Yankees they could not reach some common ground.
I agree Patrick.
Doreen,
Congratulations on your daughter’s graduation!
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SAS,
Just keep posting. SoS is a horrible speller, we’ll know the difference. j/k, but where are you SoS? Do we need to send you a message in a bottle?
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Erica,
Get well!
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Golson? I guess Girardi’s going to go more with the rotating DH and away from the plattoon DH. Golson’s an indictment on Thames’ defense. :}
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Bleacher Report saying others including Atlanta calling about Javy? I find the Braves a tad of a stretch.
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Billy,
In the interest of fairness, Bryant did check out of an elimination game against Phoenix a few years ago. It might have been the summer before the cell phone video rant. Similar situations except LeBron has Shaq and Kobe had Kwame “Stone Hands” Brown.
Grandy is also 5-6 years older than AJAX, it would be nice to have some players from the farm to come up and have a long good career like the core four instead of signing/trading for guys w 4 year windows just bc u can
The Yanks probably want a third outfielder who can both play the field well AND hit LHP. Golson has been hitting lefties so far this year in AAA, so he fits. Miranda may get called up later but I suspect the Yanks are nervous he won’t hit RHP any better than Thames as Miranda has been in a bit of a slump against righties so far this year.
I think they need another pitcher as the combination of Javy starting, a doubleheader and only 6 available relievers, two of whom are Robertson and Logan and one of whom is a call-up make me a little nervous.
I’ll be at the stadium this weekend and will just have to give Cashman heck about this
Ha. Wrong key, that’s supposed to be
. But I think I found a mr. pringles emoticon for Brandon. :{)
I win!!!!!!!!
Chad,
Who are the non-roster players inhouse?
Golson makes some sense – Girardi will use the Johnson injury to get some other guys a few days at DH rather than bringing up Miranda to fill the role.
If the Johnson injury is long term though – what do we think of some of the following options:
Jermaine Dye
Carlos Delgado
Hank Blaylock
Of the three the one I would be intrigued by is Blaylock. I’m surprised he didn’t generate more interest this winter as a FA. I know he’s not the on base machine that Johnson is, but the guy can rake. He is likely to use the out clause in his contract with the Rays to get out of AAA (unless Tampa decides to just cut Burrell and call up Hank)
of course – there’s always Manny who I think is a viable option.
So now we know Jackson is guararanteed to be a success for 15 years because he got off to a hot start?
This place gets crazier by the day.
So said, so done. I rest my case. By the way, in AAA last year his BABIP was .392
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He had a .384 BABIP last year according to fangraphs. And a .346 BABIP in AA.
Those are both above average but a player’s BABIP usually drops when getting to the big leagues. But lets say he really is a .380 BABIP player (unlikely considering no player in the majors has career BABIP that high), he’s still in for a .120 point correction.
I want Jackson to do well but it’s just a fact that his numbers are a mirage right now.
I didn’t know LGY was involved in the decision making of future Yankee rosters.
The Yankee “plan” is constantly changing. You think they decided to trade Jackson because they were planning on bringing up Montero a year and a half later? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. If they felt Jackson was going to be a star they would have kept him. Also if they felt both were ready to contribute, they would both be here. I wasn’t aware of the rule that they couldn’t have more than one rookie in the lineup at the same time. That must be a new one.
Montero will make his debut when he’s ready. So far what he’s shown this year, he’s far from that point, especially when you factor in the desire of the organization to develop him as a catcher. There are even questions about whether his bat is ready and they aren’t bringing him up to be a part time DH.
Manny is no option. The Yankees want nothing to do with Manny Ramirez.
0.0% chance of happening.
Will Austin Jackson ever produce a 30Hr season or a season like Granderson’s 2007 where he had 23 triples, 38 doubles, and 23 home runs, 26 steals, and scored 122 runs? The Yankees sure didn’t think so.
Granderson is an explosive player and extra-base hit machine. What’s the fuss over Granderson? Be happy he is on the team. Really strange to want a rookie who has played like 30 games over a centerfielder who is not old and is a proven major leaguer.
Chip you are literally the best troll ever.
Dye, Delgado, Blaylock, Manny? Awesome.
You own dude
I shouldn’t inject sanity into the Jackson BABIP discussion, but AJax’s BABIP in 2009 was by far his highest BABIP, throughout his minor league career it was between .340 and .360. I don’t think it makes much sense to cite a player’s highest statistic as the baseline for what he will continue to achieve.
If Golson is back, he must be in for Aceves since he hasn’t been back down for 10 days. That brings the Yankees down to 12 pitchers for this afternoon. Then Miranda can be activated and Russo sent down tonight if they want Miranda.
If Nova has to pitch mulitple innings this afternoon, then they could always send him down before the night game and activate another pitcher, but I assume that pitcher would have to be in Detroit now or on the way there this afternoon. It couldn’t be Melcanon or Sanchez, so it may be Jonathan Albaledejo time again. If so, I’ll need more Tums.
another month of this an AJax will be an ALL Star CF too.
miggs,
Your ability to see what you want on this blog an respond accordingly truly astounds me.
Don’t be surprised if Javier ends up in SF.just saying! http://www.mlb.sportsnewsandscores.com seems to think he’ll be headed in that direction.
My guess would be that most Yankee fans were very happy w/ the trade for Granderson
I think Willie Mays and Hank Aaron are also available…
Something to consider?
I thought it was position player for position player, pitcher for pitcher if less than 10 days?
It doesn’t make sense to inject BABIP to any discussion since it’s a “luck” stat.
vey,
SF doesn’t need pitching.
you never know about AJax, he could be an allstar this year !
It doesn’t make sense to inject BABIP to any discussion since it’s a “luck” stat.
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Uh how about the conversation about how A-Jax is lucky?
LoHudYankees Greg Golson has arrived. Looks like he’s the addition for Alfredo Aceves, who’s heading for the DL.
LGY,
I just don’t understand how you can think Montero’s development and projected major league debut relates to the Austin Jackson trade.
Seems pretty absurd to me.
Also, if you want to call me out for what I post in relation to others, at least add something to the discussion or inject some humor.
From what I’ve seen your posts just seem to be a waste of space.
This is SF best chance in a hundred years. Zito is on fiyah!
They very well may be buyers.
I’ll be disappointed if Javy goes somewhere else and pitches like he’s capable. But I really can’t see him going, just like I can’t see melky or damon coming back this season.
“I just don’t understand”
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Smartest thing you have ever posted on here.
Patrick
I beg to differ they need pitching because they lack offense! No ffense= needs pitching.
SJ
Just curious if you had any insight into the decision to use Golson and Russo rather than Miranda. I myself am struggling to find a reasonable explanation.
I thought this was about Jackson being unable to sustain?
If he’s lucky for the next 5 years, he’ll be able to!
“I thought it was position player for position player, pitcher for pitcher if less than 10 days?”
I was under that impression as well, but if so, then I don’t see how Golson can be activated today.
Who are you?
You’re fairly new to the blog yet have this air of entitlement.
You were probably one of those kids that got picked on all the time. Don’t worry LGY, I’m not here to steal your lunch money.
BABIP for pitchers is on some arguments a “luck” stat.
BABIP for batters is not a luck stat. However, even if it isn’t a luck stat there can be “lucky” distributions of results over a short period of time, which is what Mr. Jackson is currently experiencing.
Whoever wanted the yankees to keep cost-controlled young homegrowns.
Do the names Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and GGBG ring a bell ?
Do you stop to think that the Yankees have a higher percentage of young homegrown ballplayers on their roster than just about anyone.
Can’t keep em’ all.
One Month In
Some thoughts a month into the season:
Thus far I was completely wrong about three things: The effectiveness of Brett Gardner and I thought Tampa would disappoint and the O’s would be a lot better than they are.
I thought the Rays were putting too much stock in a bunch of guys who had career years and figured they would disappoint in year two – specifically Bartlett, Zobrist, and their relief corps. The relief pitching has been bad outside of Soriano but they’ve been able to compensate.
As for Baltimore, with their young core, strong defense up the middle and what I assumed would be the stabilization of their pen by Mike Gonzalez I assumed that team would challenge for third place in the AL East.
I didn’t think the Mariners would be as good as everyone thought they would be, but I didn’t think they would be this ineffective. That team can pitch but they just have no one to drive in runs.
I also didn’t think the Cubbies would be this awful either.
Some Deals
So here a few deals that I could see:
1. Kevin Millwood to the Phillies. Millwood had some good seasons in Philly and I could see them bringing him back to upgrade the rotation spot currently held by Kyle Kendrick. The Phillies are the top of the NL but I don’t think they have much faith in Kendrick (or Moyer) giving them a ton down the stretch.
2. Octavio Dotel to the Phillies. Their pen is a mess, Dotel can either go into the 8th inning while Madsen is hurt or serve as insurance incase Brad Lidge falls apart.
3. Matt Capps to the Rays. The Nats are off to a nice start but I don’t think anyone believes it will last. In fact that team will probably turn over in June when they start promoting some of their prospects. Capps in front of Soriano would be a strong back of the pen for Tampa.
4. Aramis Ramirez to the Angels. I don’t know how much longer LA can go with Brandon Wood at 3b. Ramirez would give them some serious RH power and a legitimate bat there. A lesser alternative would be Mike Lowell but I don’t think that anyone believes Lowell can still play 3b.
5. Power hitter to the Mariners. The Mariners are dying for some offensive production. Milton Bradley is no longer with the club, asleep or awake Griffey is not giving them anything. The Mariners need a slugger. They could go after Adam LaRoche if the D’backs become sellers, Mike Lowell, Adam Dunn if the Nats are willing to give him up, Troy Glaus, or Jose Guillen would also be possibilities.
6. DH/OF to the Yankees? If Nick Johnson’s injury is a long term one would the Yankees consider going out of the organization to bring in a new DH (or an outfielder and move Swisher to DH)? I doubt it, but if they did – in addition to the three guys I posted above, here are two names I think they’ll bounce around: Manny Ramirez and David DeJesus.
Manny can’t field, but he can still hit and is at the end of his contract so there’s no long term risk. The Dodgers would probably be willing to take lesser players to get the rest of his money off the books (especially if they’re not going anywhere). A lineup with Tex, Alex, Cano and Manny in the middle of it would be fun to watch.
If the Yankees were more interested in bringing in a prototypical 2 hitter to replace Johnson they could look at DeJesus and move Swisher to DH. DeJesus has been very good in RF for the Royals this season.
“He had a .384 BABIP last year according to fangraphs. And a .346 BABIP in AA.
Those are both above average but a player’s BABIP usually drops when getting to the big leagues. But lets say he really is a .380 BABIP player (unlikely considering no player in the majors has career BABIP that high), he’s still in for a .120 point correction.
I want Jackson to do well but it’s just a fact that his numbers are a mirage right now.”
those numbers were according to an article I posted last night regarding Austin.
“I shouldn’t inject sanity into the Jackson BABIP discussion”
Feeling self important as usual Wave? Thank you for gracing the discussion with your presence however.
raymagnetic-
You’re welcome. Anytime.
Look at Brad Penny, with the Cardinals. He couldn’t make it in the AL. The Cardinals love him and his 3-3 record in the NL. Penny was lit up last night by Houston, they came from behind and stole the game, in the Cardinals on yard. Today Card fans are scratching their heads. hehehe!
What’s with all the sniping?
Can’t you guys address each other without the snide remarks?
Chip,
Good post!
If his BABIP was currently his Minor league high, he would be hitting .270 ish.
SJ44 May 12th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Manny is no option. The Yankees want nothing to do with Manny Ramirez.
0.0% chance of happening.
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I know where you’re coming from – and I think it’s highly unlikely that the Yankees would have any interest in Manny – but I would have said the same thing about the Yankees having any interest in bringing Roger Clemens back a couple of years ago (in fact I did say that).
IMO the bottom line from the Yankee standpoint is if that they will explore any options that they think will make them a better team and fit within their budget. If they feel Manny would fill a need and if they could come to an arrangement with the Dodgers, then I wouldn’t put it by them.
Of course, Manny makes a ton of money and has a blanket no-trade clause that he’s probably going to want to negotiate with before waiving…again, highly unlikely, but not impossible.
Not sure I’m sane enough to repost this, but it’s all about Austin and his unsustainable BABIP.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i.....ing-hitter
How’s the weather in Detroit rock city…they playin this first one?
What’s with all the sniping?
Can’t you guys address each other without the snide remarks?
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It’s kind of raymagnetic’s gimmick to do this, let him have his fun.
Last year Yankees had the highest % of homegrown talent on the 25 man roster 56% or 14 of 25, and still won the WS.
I loved using that stat on Yankee haters that claimed the Yankees bought the Championship, it shuts them up!
Nick J is an on-base machine llolol. Cashman really used his bean picking out the greatest DH the Yankees could ever hope for! Let’s give him a 3 year deal soon ok? Matsui is such an injury risk compared to NJ lol. Great job Cash!
YankeesWFAN No timetable on Aceves. Park will throw rehab games today and Friday.
Okay, before I read that article (thanks, ray), let me try something out.
Could it be that pitchers were challenging the rookie? And now they know he can hit, so they’ll go off the black a little more? Austin will have to adjust with a good eye or strike out like it’s going out of style?
By the way, and not much of the season has gone by yet, NJ has a higher OPS than does Matsui.
miggs,
I could not care less how long you have posted here.
I have no patience for you to carry out your obsession with Betsy on this blog. If you feel the need to continue to pollute this blog with that nonsense I will continue to call you out for the little prick that you are.
Other than that I have no interest in continuing any sort of dialogue with someone so clearly disturbed as yourself.
Just wanted to make sure we are clear so you can continue to talk to yourself and I will get back to discussing baseball with the rest of the posters on here.
Matsui is hitting 2.30with 4hr and 14 rbi….
Yankees don’t do dred-locks, no Manny evah pls!! His mood swings and july or Aug self imposed vacations( wink wink, ) would kill the morale in the club house.
INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. PLEASE TO KEEP BEING SERIOUS.
“”Last year Yankees had the highest % of homegrown talent on the 25 man roster 56% or 14 of 25, and still won the WS.
I loved using that stat on Yankee haters that claimed the Yankees bought the Championship, it shuts the”"
Great stat! It’s hard to defend against the claim they buy all of the championships. A better way to say it is they buy the increased probability of winning the WS. Rich agents like SJ wouldn’t argue that point.
Patrick,
I made a statement about how people wouldn’t be pleased with Ajax because of his BABIP. True statement.
For a person who loves to call people crazy who don’t agree with them, your statement about my “gimmick” is pretty funny.
NJ: .167 .388 .306 .693 2 HR 8 RBI
Matsui: .228 .309 .374 .683 with 4 HR 15 RBI
NJ looks slightly more valuable even if you want to look at Matsui’s extra batting average, because he is making waaaaaaaaaaay more outs.
Okay, short and easy to understand.
First, ? “Although Jackson has gotten particularly lucky on his balls in play, he isn’t “more likely” to get unlikely the rest of the season…”
Second, He’ll have a nice stat line in his first season, no matter how lucky or unlucky he is.
Still not sure about the luck/BABIP relationship.
Braeden,
I get why Yankee fans want no part of Manny, but Johnny Damon, Jose Canseco, Roger Clemens – they’ve all donned pinstripes. My point is that if we get to mid July and Nick is still out and the Yankees have a need, there is a lot of merit to considering Manny to fill it.
And like SJ always says when he is dealing with twerps.
Not everything on the internet is private.
So, I would highly recommend you keep that in mind miggs, if you want to keep harassing Betsy.
The key word is “Matsui is playing”. NJ is made of glass but hey it’s only 5 million! He must be worth it since he’s being paid it. Talk about stupidity from one of our big posters here.
Can’t really make outs when you aren’t playing.
Matsui will have superior numbers and we all know he is better than NJ. What a joke.
LGY who are you kidding? I’m disturbed? You obviously have some anger issues and maybe even a little inferiority complex you’re dealing with.
I challenged your stupid comment regarding the baseless correlation you made between the Austin Jackson trade and Montero’s development and the best you could do as a response was a snide remark.
So I’m sorry you can’t back up your posts with any logical baseball discussion.
Regarding my interaction with other posters…. that’s none of your concern. But feel free to keep commenting on matters that don’t concern you.
ray,
“Feeling self important as usual Wave? Thank you for gracing the discussion with your presence however.”
Come on man that’s basically you in a nutshell. Calling people out with insults. You have to admit, your blog personality is basically being a jackass.
I don’t care because it doesn’t bother me, just stating the facts.
When Matsui goes on the DL for his knees, can I gloat about him not playing?
Ledger_Yankees There’s a mystery Yankee pitcher tucked away in a Detroit hotel, just in case Girardi tears through arms in game 1.
m-
The theory is that pitchers don’t have control over balls in play – they do over strikeouts and HRs, but not balls in play, ergo for pitchers, BABIP is “luck”. By and large this seems to be true although there are exceptions to the rule.
For batters, BABIP is not “luck”. Better hitters make better contact, hit the ball harder, hit more line drives, all of which tend to increase BABIP.
However, even though for batters BABIP is not a “lucky” stat, like anything else (like coin flipping for example”) over short periods of time you can have a “lucky” distribution of results. The argument is that a BABIP of .500 is an extremely “lucky” distribution of results. We were looking at AJax’s minor league BABIP results to guestimate what his “real” BABIP might be.
“And like SJ always says when he is dealing with twerps.
Not everything on the internet is private.
So, I would highly recommend you keep that in mind miggs, if you want to keep harassing Betsy.”
Is that a threat? I don’t even know what that means. Are you Betsy’s personal blog bodyguard?
Get lost. You sound like a sniveling little brat.
For the record – I fully believe that the Yankees make more money than any team in baseball and thus it makes sense that they spend vastly more money than any team in baseball – it would be infuriating if the Yankees just pocketed that money and spent under 100 mil on the club.
The Yankees are spending money (more or less) wisely in the way they are going above slot in the draft (Joba, Austin Jackson, Hughes) and the way they are going after international free agents (Cano, Aceves, Montero)
That said, when haters talk about the “buying of championships” I think we have to point out that they aren’t just talking about imported players.
The Yankees have committed a fortune into keeping Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Derek Jeter in pinstripes – if those three guys came through Tampa or KC or San Diego that would not have been an option.
2 games today. Looking forward to getting a couple wins and some terrific pitching from both of our starters.
Who’s with me
Matsui had his knees drained twice last year and came back strong. He is a battle hardened warrior. NJ was the wrong pick up for DH. NJ is synonymous with injuries/the DL. Cash messed up.
Warning Track Power –
I can get on board with that.
Who is this LGY buffoon? Did school get canceled today?
Can’t hit either from the DL either. OBP means nothing when you’re not playing.
Can’t compare Hideki and NJ after 30 games.
As for Hideki, his bat might be happier if he was still with his good American friend Jeter-san.
Erin-Good post regarding the mystery pitcher. A lot of teams would be doing the same thing.
When it comes to playing 18 innings in 1 day, there is a chance of wearing out those arms before the sun goes down.
Hopefully that won’t be a problem for us today vs the tigers
Yogi Berra might be the cutest old man on the planet. Happy Birthday Yogi!!!
And please no more Manny to the yanks talk; just the thought is scary!
From MLB Trade Rumors
The Yankees face one contractual option after the season: designated hitter Nick Johnson has a $5.5MM mutual option with a $250K buyout. Johnson is currently on the DL with an inflamed tendon in his wrist. It seems unlikely that both sides will exercise the option.
If Johnson goes, the Yankees will be freeing up a total of $67.7MM for departing free agents. Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, and Javier Vazquez lead the way. We’ll also tack on another $2.2375 for Alex Rodriguez’s salary decrease and money no longer paid to Chad Gaudin and Melky Cabrera. That’s $70MM coming off the books.
Increases to players under contract total $8.5MM, with Curtis Granderson, Mark Teixeira, Nick Swisher, and Robinson Cano getting raises. The Yankees also have Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes hitting arbitration for the first time. Boone Logan would be a second-timer, while Sergio Mitre fits into the fourth-time class. Even adding in the arbitration raises, the Yankees should have a good $55MM to work with without raising payroll.
Of course, a large chunk of that $55MM or so will be allocated toward new contracts for Jeter, Rivera, and possibly Pettitte. If all three re-sign near their 2010 salaries, it’ll eat up most of the free money. In that case a payroll increase would be necessary to get into the mix on other big-name free agents.
Erin @ 12:34, Is it “Rajah Clemens!!!”? (Suzyn impersonation)
LOL!
Matsui had his knees drained twice last year and came back strong. He is a battle hardened warrior. NJ was the wrong pick up for DH. NJ is synonymous with injuries/the DL. Cash messed up.
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Matsui is like a legendary samurai that will never quit until he vanquishes his enemies.
“Patrick says:
May 12, 2010 at 11:33 am
ray,
“Feeling self important as usual Wave? Thank you for gracing the discussion with your presence however.”
Come on man that’s basically you in a nutshell. Calling people out with insults. You have to admit, your blog personality is basically being a jackass.
I don’t care because it doesn’t bother me, just stating the facts.”
I know what I said. Guess you missed the part where Wave said he was adding “sanity” to the discussion, which prompted my response?
Patrick would you like me to pull up posts of you calling people idiots, crazy and the like? I guess that’s you adding value to discussions when you call people out their names?
Melkman is in Hotlanta May 12th, 2010 at 11:31 am
I like Matsui too, but Cash Money chose Damon over Matsui & Damon dumped a unreasonable amount of Salary requirements and years on him. So Matsui scooted before Cash could get back to Hidecki. There really is no story there. Matsui’s knees are shot and it is a short matter of time before he DL’s or retires plus he wants to play in the OF for some reason too.
NJ, if healthy is a good option. The Yanks have tons of DH options, but Damon would have been nice.
It will be a lot better when Granderson gets well and is patrolling CF. A Thames/Miranda/NJ DH is not bad.
Can’t we all just get along?
NYYROC May 12th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Erin @ 12:34, Is it ?Rajah Clemens!!!?? (Suzyn impersonation)
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LOL
I doubt it.
You folks that want to knock Cashman go right ahead.
If you think there’s a foolproof GM in baseball please name him.
Even the great Theo Epstein, or Billy (moneyball) Beane make a few mistakes.
It’s in the nature of all people to make mistakes in judgement.
So yeah, just crucify Cash or anyone else you like for his failings, and when you’re done criticizing take a look in the mirror and ask yourself if you ever made a bad decision, or made a mistake.
It’s easy to be critical and much harder to give credit.
Just the nature of the beast.
“”"As for Hideki, his bat might be happier if he was still with his good American friend Jeter-san.”"”
It’s a shame he is not in NY. A year to year deal for Matsui would have been the honorable thing to do. Now we have one year of NJ, and he is gone forever. The failed moronic experiment is over.
WYH,
That’s what I mean, I’m not buying the “luck” aspect. Were you unlucky you hit it right at the defender? Or was it bad luck that the defender just happened to be in that spot.
Better hitters would be able to go the opposite way with the shift on (in theory of course, somehow they can’t) and hit line drives instead of grounders more often than not.
Maybe we can get somebody from the 209
Patrick what is going on in here today?
Chip
He will Nevah cut the dreds out, Yankees won’t do it.
It was tongue in cheek, raymagnetic.
You seem to be very sensitive for a guy who likes to dish it out. If I remember correctly, the first time you ever responded to one of my comments you said “you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about”, which some folks might consider hurtful. But I saw it as intended for internet amusement, which is how you should have interpreted the “sanity remark.
we all liked matsui, however i think it is safe to say the yankees are still better than the angels.
Wave,
I was giving it right back to you. I’m just responding to what Patrick said, that’s all.
This is the Internet after all, it’s not real life. I lien discussions here to being in a bar discussing sports with strangers.
OK raymagnetic, fair enough. Pax.
You guys are argueing amongst yourselves so much today that I may not even have to show up during the games today.
Maybe we can switch the conversation to Sex, Politics, and Religion that would calm things down.
You guys should be arguing about that travesty of a LOST episode last night.
morning all.. i’m suffering from a serious hang over and seem to have lost my grip on our roster: who the hell is in our bullpen for today??!
If people would like to argue about something how about when and where A-rod kicks the crap out of Braeden ?
That’s how we roll in the 718 and the 212.
Chip
After this year Andy might be done, I hope I’m wrong, and he comes back.
Any one knows where I can catch the game online??/ I’m stuck at work today.
I was really disappointed with LOST last night as well… I really hope all this fuss hasn’t beem made over some lame light in the ground.
“That’s how we roll in the 718 and the 212.”
Word!
It will be interesting to see how Ajax does in this series since I’m sure the Yankees know more about his weaknesses than anyone else. So far he is 0-4 with 2K’s. If he has a poor series, you can bet advance scouts from other teams will take notice and these teams will start pitching him the same way.
Ray-
You spoke about arguing sports with strangers in a bar as an analogy for the the blog.
There is one critical difference IMO. In one case you only walk away with hurt feelings, if anything, and in the other you might just wind up in the hospital. Especially, if it happens to be the wrong type of bar.
Thank god they brought Miranda and Golson up.
blake,
Did you see that the Red Sox are blaming Beckett’s mechanical problems on the slide step?
The whole run prevention with 2 terrible defensive catchers seems to be a much bigger flaw than Mr Epstein projected.
benshpigel
#yankees have another reliever waiting at hotel in case bullpen’s taxed in game 1. not sanchez or melancon. albaladejo, on 40-man, likely.
Please pitch well, Javy. I do not want to relive the Albaladejo experience!!!!!!!!!!!
Trevor May 12th, 2010 at 11:59 am
“That’s how we roll in the 718 and the 212.”
Word!
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Rule #1 for Ballers and Gangsta’s – you cannot represent from 2 area codes – pick one and stick with it.
Brandon -
Miranda was not called up yet.
Kick some 209 a**
Rodg12-
If Vasquez comes out early it’s much more like to be Nova than anyone else IMO so don’t worry. No Alba.
besides you know and I know JV is gonna pitch a gem, right ?
rodg12, prbly gm.2
Very interesting discussion so far.
A few points to consider: Hughes is really the number 4, but Javier Vasquez should pitch to the back of his card at some point. I’d hate to trade him back to Atlanta. It is intriguing, however, to consider Nate McCutcheon plus a reliever for Javy. Again, thinking out loud, that’s not going to happen.
One other thing that’s interesting, but not going to happen, is Javy to the Dodgers for Manny. Manny, as we all know, grew up about 3-4 blocks from YS–what an end to his career. On the other hand, he’s a walking mess, and post steroids who knows what you would get from him. Interesting speculation.
They clearly need another LF/DH type with NJ of questionable value this year. Randy Winn, while a nice guy, is unlikely to be what they need.
If I’m Nova …I get myself ready.
miggs,
No idea what’s going on, maybe it’s the weather.
ray,
I don’t care if you read my posts back to me, I know that I’ve called people crazy, idiots, etc. I’m an angry, arrogant person, what can I say? My point is that in the majority of your posts you are belittling or insulting other people. It’s just your nature I guess. I don’t see why my shortcomings have anything to do with how you post.
I guess the difference is, I can admit to mean things I say and you can’t. I think you’re a pretty immature person to be quite honest.
Jerkface,
I kind of liked it but why again is the MiB the villain? He got burned time and time again. Why shouldn’t he leave the island?
LGY,
Yea I think that pretty funny as well…perhaps they should get a catcher and fix two problems then.
Pitt-
Think Juan Miranda.
PittsburghYankeeFan May 12th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Very interesting discussion so far.
A few points to consider: Hughes is really the number 4, but Javier Vasquez should pitch to the back of his card at some point. I’d hate to trade him back to Atlanta. It is intriguing, however, to consider Nate McCutcheon plus a reliever for Javy. Again, thinking out loud, that’s not going to happen.
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Who’s Nate McCutcheon? Its either Nate McClouth or Andrew McCutcheon – and i don’t think you can get either for Vazquez (definetly not mccutcheon) – if the yankess have to trade vazquez (not saying they will or should) and not eating all of his salary then the most you’ll get from the braves would be melky cabrera
blake,
One of the worst parts about it is that VMart is still really struggling against RHP. He is not even making up for his defensive shortcomings on the offensive side.
Any one knows where I can catch the game online??/ I?m stuck at work today.
LGY-
Maybe VMart is becoming KMart and has a value like WalMart.
if the Yankees can avoid putting a strain on the bullpen today, we will be in very good shape for tomorrow and this coming weekend.
No off-day scheduled until May 24. A long, long time from now.
The arguing is my fault.
I called in sick to work today and I haven’t been sitting here to post the proper amount of blog fluff and levity ito the group!
“I know that I’ve called people crazy, idiots, etc. I’m an angry, arrogant person, what can I say?”
Patrick that’s great you just come right out and admit that. Funny stuff.
LGY,
There was a lot of speculation on here about what being a full time catcher again might do to Vmarts bat. Now its still early and I think he will hit at some point but he shouldn’t be behind the plate often at this point in his career. His value is in his bat and right now the Sox really aren’t getting a lot from him on either side.
Patrick that’s great you just come right out and admit that. Funny stuff.
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Well I can’t afford therapy so I figure this blog will work just as well right?!
Brandon -
That would be my ideal scenario as well. Javy pitches well, bullpen is just used for a couple guys. Russo sent down for Miranda between games.
MTU -
Fully aware Alby wouldn’t be used for Javy in first game. But, a good start by Javy will prevent him from even being called up!
Erica/Erin
sesame street reference needed right away
just back from a meeting, and wow, this is night time blog type of stuff
Last nights lost was pretty awful. I am afraid for the finale.
Juan Miranda will likely be out of options after this year. Once Teixeira was signed, Miranda’s fate was sealed as a future Yankee.
For the sake of his career he could be moved along with Albaladejo for a player Cashman feels is needed at the 7/31 trading deadline to finalize the team for the late summer push.
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 12th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The arguing is my fault.
I called in sick to work today and I haven?t been sitting here to post the proper amount of blog fluff and levity ito the group!
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You can blame me too-I’ve been swamped at work otherwise I would have gotten a Muppet conversation going.
you guys and your sense of entitlement because you guys spend all day posting on here is completely absurd.