Game 38: Yankees vs. Red Sox
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on May 17, 2010 
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YANKEES (24-13)
Derek Jeter SS
Brett Gardner CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Francisco Cervelli C
Marcus Thames RF
Randy Winn LF
Ramiro Pena 3B
RHP Phil Hughes (5-0, 1.38)
Career vs. Red Sox
RED SOX (19-19)
Marco Scutaro SS
Dustin Pedroia 2B
J.D. Drew RF
Kevin Youkilis 1B
Victor Martinez C
David Ortiz DH
Adrian Beltre 3B
Jeremy Hermida LF
Darnell McDonald CF
RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka (2-1, 6.35)
Career vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m./YES Network and ESPN
UMPIRES: HP Mark Carlson, 1B Angel Campos, 2B Jeff Nelson, 3B Larry Vanover
WEATHER: Cloudy, but the rain isn’t supposed to start until after game time. Light wind blowing out to left field. Temperatures in the 60s.
TWO OF A KIND: Phil Hughes enters this game as one of two Yankees starters with a 5-0 record (Andy Pettitte is the other). According to the Elias Sports Bureau, this is only the fourth time in 50 years that the Yankees have two starters who are 5-0. It also happened in 2004 (Kevin Brown and Orlando Hernandez), 2003 (Mike Mussina and David Wells) and 1980 (Ron Guidry and Tommy John).
BACK TO SCHOOL: On Sunday, Hillsborough County Florida held a formal dedication of George M. Steinbrenner High School in Lutz, Fla. Steinbrenner attended the ceremony with his wife, Joan and his son’s Hank and Hal. Steinbrenner was recognized for his various charitable efforts in the Tampa area.
AHEAD OF THE GAME: The Yankees are 21-2 when leading after six innings this season. The only such loses were last night and May 1 against Chicago. For whatever it’s worth — and it’s worth nothing — I didn’t cover either of those games. So, clearly I have a lot to do with the Yankees success or failure.
AVERAGE LINEUP: Jorge Posada (.385), Brett Gardner (.370) and Derek Jeter (.365) rank fourth, seventh and 10th in the American League in home batting average (minimum of 40 plate appearances).
UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: King Nothing now blaring here at Yankee Stadium while Phil Hughes warms up. I’m not a huge Metallica guy — in fact, I would guess Hughes and I have roughly 10 CDs in common — but I do like that song.
UPDATE, 7:23 p.m.: Speaking of music, was that Biggie that played as Jeter’s at-bat music? That seems new. He got a hit, so maybe that’s all the change he needed. By the way, Hughes worked a 1-2-3 top of the first.
UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: Single. Single. Walk. Bases now loaded for Alex Rodriguez, still no outs.
UPDATE, 7:34 p.m.: Wonder if the Red Sox also have their Friday starter available out of the bullpen? They might need him. Rodriguez just singled in two runs. It’s 2-0 with runners at the corners and no outs.
UPDATE, 7:38 p.m.: I’m out of adjectives for Francisco Cervelli.
UPDATE, 7:41 p.m.: One inning in the books, the Yankees have a 5-0 lead and the Red Sox have already had a reliever getting loose in the bullpen. The big hits belonged to Rodriguez, Cano and Cervelli, plus sac fly by Thames.
UPDATE, 7:55 p.m.: A wild pitch and a two-out single put the Red Sox on the board. Yankees still lead it, 5-1.
UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: Two-out walk by Gardner. Two-out RBI double by Teixeira. Yankees now lead it 6-1.
UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: Pitch count is the only thing working against Hughes right now. He’s already approaching 70 pitches with one out in the fourth. It’s really been the only negative of his season, he’s had a tendency to build the pitch count rather quickly.
UPDATE, 8:37 p.m.: David Ortiz stood and watched that one for a little while. The solo shot was his seventh of the season and it’s now a 6-2 game.
UPDATE, 9:06 p.m.: Boone Logan getting loose.
UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: These past three hitters seem to have worn down Hughes, with J.D. Drew finally going deep for a three-run home run on a 1-2 pitch. Scutaro singled after a seven-pitch at-bat, Pedroia doubled in a 10-pitch at-bat and Hughes wasn’t able to put Drew away when he had him down 0-2. A nice sliding catch by Mark Teixeira has finally ended the inning. Yankees still leading, but the lead is down to 6-5.
UPDATE, 9:13 p.m.: That was a 28-pitch fifth inning for Hughes. He’s at 104 for the game. I don’t know, but he might be finished at this point.
UPDATE, 9:21 p.m.: So far, Brian Cashman’s best offseason moves have been re-signing Andy Pettitte and getting Marcus Thames on a minor league deal. Thames’ two-out, RBI double has given the Yankees an extra run and a 7-5 lead.
UPDATE, 9:46 p.m.: Hey look, it’s Chan Ho Park. It’s also a 7-6 lead because of a solo homer off Boone Logan. The first inning seems a long, long time ago.
UPDATE, 10:08 p.m.: Pretty stunning turn of events here in the Bronx. The two-run home run by Kevin Youkilis has made this an 8-7 Red Sox lead. Would have never guessed it after the five-run Yankees first.
UPDATE, 10:12 p.m.: Solo home run by Victor Martinez and Chan Ho Park has been booed off the mound in his return from the disabled list. It’s 9-7 Red Sox. Martinez, by the way, positively crushed the ball. Over the Yankees bullpen. Here comes Damaso Marte.
UPDATE, 10:18 p.m.: That’s a 5-3 putout behind the second base bag. The Yankees sent Pena to play behind the bag on the Ortiz shift, leaving Jeter in his usual shortstop position. A big strange, but effective.
UPDATE, 10:36 p.m.: Javy Vazquez is getting loose. Wonder if the Yankees will have to add a pitcher after this game. They’ve really beat up their bullpen, and Girardi was cryptic about who was available in the first place.
UPDATE, 10:40 p.m.: Vazquez is coming in for the final out of the ninth inning. Chamberlain must not be available tonight. And Robertson wouldn’t be available after pitching the past two nights.
UPDATE, 11:00 p.m.: Unreal.
UPDATE, 11:01 p.m.: Now we know what Francisco Cervelli looks like when he’s mad.
Let’s go Yankees !!
Heard that?
P e t e r A b r a h a m just laughed at our lineup.
Lets go Yankees!!!
MaineYankee, I saw your joke about me and Girardi and NJ.
I approved of the NJ signing and I still do.
We can rebuild him.
We have the technology.
We have the capability to make him the world’s first bionic Designated Hitter.
Nick Johnson will be that hitter.
Better than he was before.
Better, stronger, faster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Go Phil!
California, why don’t you go somewhere else to stir up your crap? Your gig has gotten SO old. I don’t really think that anybody cares who laughs at our lineup and who doesn’t.
And thanks to my great-grandfather for tipping me off about that TV show to use for that joke!
LET’S GO YANKEES!!
LET’S GO YANKEES!!
LET’S GO YANKEES!!
Nick Johnson….the 6, er…$5.5 million dollar man.
The Yankees aren’t just gonna win this game, they’re gonna win it by more than 1.5 runs!
(says me)
Take that you nattering nabobs of negativism!
Trisha,
I read your post in the last thread. I feel like an OPPC trying to battle all the complaining today!
California = Pete
How many burgers today, Pete?
Lice-K looking good so far (in warm ups).
This game is over. uggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
cant wait to see papi versus hughes. Papi has been crushing the balls lately we shall see if he pitches him differently.
LGY -
It’s definitely an uphill battle tonight.
John Flaherty’s barber is really no barber at all, is he?
Go Yankees. Go Phily. Go bottom of the lineup.
Thus far, Ortiz > ARod
Actually Nick is the 5.75 $ million dollar man when you factor in his 2011 buyout.
It would have been 6 mil if Nick had gotten to the plate 550 times this season. Don’t think he’s gonna make it.
This game is going 15 and Pena will hit a walk-off HR.
Nick,
+1 for Congress of Vienna reference. Did you dine with Klemens Wenzel von Metternich?
LGY swear to God it was depressing reading through those posts today. And that’s what I mean about a lack of perspective. The Yankees have the best rotation in baseball and the Sux frankly are a weak team. And despite all the injuries, they still have the second best record. Shouldn’t that make a statement about how great things will be when the injuries are past us? Geesh.
I’m so unfraid of the Sux it isn’t funny.
You want to have something to really be depressed about? I have to listen to Orsillo yammer all night.
GO YANKEES!!!
GO NATS!!!!
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Ugh. Ellsbury is coming back Wednesday night.
ESPN or YES?
Let’s go Yankees!!! Let’s go Hughes!!!
Enjoy the game all.
The Yankees WILL win this game.
YES
No way am I listening to Nomar.
Yeah, Metternich was there… great meal, but I think Talleyrand slipped me a mickey and I woke up alone at the table with the tab.
Young Master Hughes, ftw.
That wasnt a strike?
1st pitch of the game. Right down the middle. Ball 1???
Jobbed on the first pitch already? Sigh.
nice a small strikezone
Never trust a Frenchman.
Orsillo: “Red Sox (he doesn’t use the correct name
) are facing one of the best pitchers in the majors.”
Wow.
heat
You’re telling me… the gaul of those Frenchies is, francly, appalling.
Smoke.
a cheapo strike 2 for Phi.
hughes in beast mode.
change up! come on!!!!!!!!
“This game is going 15 and Pena will hit a walk-off HR.”
For Nick’s sake let’s call it a 2 run shot.
He had the “Blacksox” in 6 games and still owes. What’s the vig like on a 90 year old debt Nick?
he threw one!
Some defensive swings – good stuff tonight from Phil
Just threw the change on the 2-2 pitch.
Drew has put together the best AB’s on the Red Sox the past 10 days.
nice inning
go away already!
90 year old debt? I wish. I’m still paying points on taking the French at Agincourt.
Finally, that should’ve been a 5 minute inning.
Let’s go Yankee bats!
“Ugh. Ellsbury is coming back Wednesday night.”
Perhaps, but it remains to be seen whether he’s going to be as electric on offense and defense as before. Pete Abe posted quotes of Ellsbury’s, and it doesn’t sound like he’s confident about his ribs not bothering him during games.
Hughes has really impressed me. I thought he would be good but not this good this year.
Nick in SF
Are you taking the Suns in 5 or 6?
Way to swing at the first pitch, Jeter.
Drew has very good numbers against Hughes. He probably sees the ball well out of his hand.
Jete!
Derek fail, swung at the 1st pitch AGAIN!
RS – well it will be good news for everyone but the Sux, again, if Ellsbury isn’t back at full speed. I will tell you that he is the only player on that team that I find worrisome. That includes offense and pitching.
This lineup is a monster, it will score 100 runs
Double steal please!
Gardy !
Hughes’ ERA is 5 runs lower than Dice K’s, that’s a huge overlay for the Yankees no matter who is in the lineup. These guys are all major league hitters, stop complaining and enjoy the game.
BG!
Who said that their offense is better than ours (lineups-wise?)
No way.
Well, Gardner’s slump is just HORRRRIBLE
Another 2-strike hit for Gardner, btw. And he was already leading the majors in that category coming into today.
The Suns?
Like the Sun King, Louis XIV??????
I think the Lakers are probably going to win.
I might throw a few bucks on the Suns +1.5 games (there is such a bet) just for fun and a rooting interest, but more with hope than faith.
This could get ugly quickly!
Montero with a 1st inning grand slam for scranton.
WoooHooo! Montero back on track!
Lets go Rod! Break the slump vs Dicek!
Back spasms, they mean SMACK spasms!
(referring to ESPN reference to Beckett)
If arod hits a grandslam…. ??
ball 1
“# GreenBeret7 May 17th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Montero with a 1st inning grand slam for scranton.”
Nice!
Too bad everyone can’t be listening to Orsillo and Remy talk about the Yankees right now. They are spot on but some of you really need to hear it from “outsiders” to believe it. I will try to quote them as best I can.
The yankees are 2nd in defense, behind the Minnesota Twins. They’re doing it all. They’re hitting, they’re pitching, and they have great defense. And that’s with all of their injuries. (Orsillo) And even though they’re doing all of that, they’re still 2 games behind the Tampa Bay Rays. (Remy) I only see them getting better as the season goes on. They’re doing it all.
Alex!!!
In spite of the 2 homers and 4 runs off of Brackman, he pitched well in the Tampa win. A no hitter through the first 4 innings, gave up a leadoff single and homer in the 5th. Had two outs in the 6th and gave up a 2 run homer. Walked 1 and struck out 4 in 5 innings.
arod is the man
Yeah Arod!!
Great at bat by Arod
Nice AB
i like this inning
Great at bat by Alex.
Hi everyone.
Lets go Yankees…..
I’m glad this lineup wasn’t scoring any runs tonight…
OMG! This terrible lineup scored 2 runs!
Against The Feared Matsuzaka!!??
No way dude
boo yah arod
Alex getting it done!
I can live with Alex not having a ton of HRs if he is going to continue to drive in runs.
Cano!!!!!!!
Wow, I really thought Hermida caught that.
Who said that Dice-k was going to love facing this lineup ? LMAO !
Like i said….this could get ugly. And this lead will let hughes pound the zone.
I thought Hermida was going to make some great play at the wall to rob Cano.
LGY –
You seriously have to wonder who beams in some of their thoughts. I mean they aren’t based in any kind of fact. It has to be total fear.
the rally continues.
Terrible attempt by Hermida.
Hermida should have had that ball. I’m glad he blew it.
Cervelli will get a hit or walk.
I feel like Cano always gets screwed out of doubles in this ballpark because he hits everything so hard but the walls are too close. And that’s scary because he still ends up with almost 50 doubles a year.
John May 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
So if Girardi brings in Boone Logan to close a 1-run game tonight and he does, does that make it the right move?
We all first guessed this lineup and would be stunned, absolutely shocked, if we scored more than 2 runs.
It would have to take a bunch of Sox errors or Dice-K having a really bad night (he’ll need to be even worse than normal because he can get away with a ton of mistakes tonight with a bunch of AAAA players in 4 of the spots) for us to score a lot of runs.
This was not a good lineup Girardi put out there. You can’t get on him for Swisher/PO but Miranda needs to be in there over “Automatic out Winn”.
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Nice prediction John!
Your genius call failed before the Sox even recorded a single out.
Tomorrow maybe you will have better luck.
all the complaints before about how bad the lineup is and there are 3 runs on the board, no one out and 2 runners on. Everyone who complained should be ashamed of themselves.
Sterling, “The Yankees just took as quick as you can 2-0 lead with four batters.”
Okay, there’s a play called a 2 Run HR that can be done w/ two batters.
Cervelli!
Cervelli is too amazing.
What did I tell you folks??
The more line up complaints, the more Yankee runs scored
NO OUTS! ok…check that..1 out!
Bad send there. Cervelli is blowing my mind.
stop sending slow runners Thompson
I did think Hermida caught that ball. Didn’t see it at first.
Why would you send Cano there?
Nobody out.
And Dice-K hasnt even recorded an out.
I’m stunned, absolutely shocked!!
Did you know that CERVELLI LEADS THE MAJORS (AVERAGE-WISE) WITH RUNNERS IS SCORING POSITION!!!!!
King Francisco does it all dammit!!!!
Poor Cano, he wants to run like a filly in a horsey race.
But look who’s standing at 3B.
How will we ever win this game?
Trisha,
Cervelli is amazing!
That was stupid base running. Should of held him instead of running into the 1st out of the inning.
Cano can’t make the first out at HP. That’s a bad send by Robbie Thompson.
atta boy Thames :0
Should have held Cano up but they score anyways.
Nice job MARCUS!
So, what’s the verdict all? Luck?
I don’t think the Yanks are going to score much this game. Hughes better pitch a shutout.
Wow! Again by Thomson. The first out at home terrible.
He is doing a poor job at 3rd.
Great inning though bot cmon Thomson.
Look at Thames with some situational hitting. I am shocked…
5 runs! This is definitely the biggest first inning the Yankees have had all year.
I would like to remind all of you of my 4:09pm post today:
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 17th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
When there is this much complaining the Yankees score at least 5 runs.
Book it!
Trisha
You DISCOVERED the great Frankie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The lineup complainers were right!
All the Yankee batters are doing right now is enabling Girardi’s madness!
I love when I am totally psychic
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-1356553
Thames picks up Thompson’s bad send to get that run across.
Perfect relay…..
What’s wrong with our 3rd base coach? Is he conscious during games?
how can this be luck, every hit has been a line drive except for Cano’s near HR
Dice K at 30 pitches. LOL!
phil is going to pitch free and easy.
Why has Cervelli made it a habit of throwing off his helmet on the base paths? Somebody should tell him he wears it for a reason.
I said that the way this lineup will score runs is if they string a bunch of stuff together at the top… well that happened, big time.
Awesome. Also cervelli continues being clutch
Apparently, Dice K had not given up a hit with the bases loaded since 2007…until this inning
GIRARDI THiS LINE UP Sux!! IT WILL NEVA Score RUns!!! WWHHHHAAAAA
In all seriousness (except for my Cervelli comment. That was serious).
WTH is going on with Thompson?
Winn should be released for striking out lol
Doreen,
Matsuzaka. Case closed.
“all the complaints before about how bad the lineup is and there are 3 runs on the board, no one out and 2 runners on. Everyone who complained should be ashamed of themselves.”
I thought the same thing but realized as quickly that the same people will be blitching the next time they don’t like the lineup, don’t like who’s catching, etc. There is no introspection ever. I give Betsy credit because she will at least acknowledge that she is over the top at times.
At this point, Dice K’s contract has to go into the “not worth it” bin along with Soriano and Wells.
I’m glad they scored a bunch of runs but come on guys, does that 5 spot really validate the bottom 4 in the lineup?
So far, so good. But part of me is expecting this game to be a typical tit-for-tat, back and forth momentum for both teams as they’ve done so many times. An early blowout doesn’t mean much against the BoSox.
And the other fact is, again, the block of home plate is RIDICULOUS!
It’s against the rules of baseball. It’s in the rulebook.
cano would have scored if the plate was not blocked. There was nowhere for him to touch home.
Patrick May 17th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I’m glad they scored a bunch of runs but come on guys, does that 5 spot really validate the bottom 4 in the lineup?
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No. But its about a line up acting as a team and guys picking each other up
CR9,
Quote me the rule that says blocking home plate is against the rules…
Patrick May 17th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I’m glad they scored a bunch of runs but come on guys, does that 5 spot really validate the bottom 4 in the lineup?
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Oh. And lets give them a chance to bat before we declare them useless in this game.
Thanks!
1st inning Phil 19 Dice-k 32 pitches (I was hoping for 38.)
Patrick,
They are banged up. It’s a lineup out of necessity.
Let it go. They scored 5 in the first. What more do you want?
Watching the replay of Cano’s slide, he would’ve been safe with a better slide.
Patrick May 17th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I’m glad they scored a bunch of runs but come on guys, does that 5 spot really validate the bottom 4 in the lineup?
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it validates that the Yankees are really strong offensively and everyone on the team can contribute, what more could you possibly want?
Patrick
There is a rule about impeding a runner’s ability to get to a base. Last time I checked, home plate is no different than 1st, 2nd, or 3rd base.
The bottom of the lineup barely participated in that 5 spot. Pena never hit, and Thames / Winn made outs. (Thames got the sac, good on him!)
Even if Swisher/Granderson/etc were in the bottom maybe we put up a 10 spot!
SJ44,
I’m not complaining that they scored 5 in the first, give me a freaking break
CR9,
Again, quote me the rule and I’m with you 100%
Like I said 2 days ago.
It does not matter who is at the bottom of the lineup, when the top of the lineup performs up to their abilities.
Seriously, the Yankees have Mark Teixiera, Alex Rodriguez, and Robinson Cano hitting 3-4-5 for them. Those are 3 of the best hitters in baseball. Any of those guys alone could carry this offense.
It was a legal block of the plate.
That at bat by Alex really encapsulates what is perhaps the biggest difference in Alex’s at bats with the yankees prior to 2009 when he came back from the hip and after.
Alex is a better hitter now.
With men on base Alex has changed his approach. At times before he would try to do to much with men on base and his swing would get long. Now he much more centered on trying to square the ball up and to hit it hard straight through the box.
As good as he was driving in runs before – he’s even better now. His swing is just so much more consistent when he’s focused on not pulling the ball and hitting it back through the box. It’s one of the reasons why he’s so much less vulnerable to off speed pitches. He becomes extraordinarily difficult to pitch to when he takes that approach.
He once again looks fantastic at the plate.
Watching Thames coming in for a ball is very scary
wow, there was a lot of complaining a few hours ago. who predicted we lose 2-0? good call…
and to be clear, i am not saying that it only happens against us. Home Plate is allowed to be blocked by catchers on all teams. And I think it’s a joke. Like I think how HP Umpires have “their own strike zones” is a joke.
another change
As long as there is any part of the plate available, even if it’s a little part, it’s a legal block of the plate.
SJ
Im not saying it’s not legal. To be honest, I dont think Ive ever seen an illegal block of home.
Sorry we have no green wall there, David
Catchers can block the plate there is no rule against it!!!
CR9,
But you just said V-Mart’s block on Cano was illegal?
that would of been a run in boston
Ortiz making a big show, like he could’ve done something with that pitch he fouled off.
Resistance is futile.
Actually, technically, u are only allowed to block a base if the player has the ball. A catcher cannot block the plate beforehand.
Whenever I see Beltre, all I can think is:
“You didn’t wear a cup”
Run up the line and tackle the runner. Then tag him.
i miss boone. nomar is such a sox kiss a$ S considering how they treated him.
Wow that was a weak hack by Beltre. Nice pitch
Ortiz was late on every one of Hughes’s fastballs even though he was starting his swing earlier than usual.
Cisco is our new RBI machine
CB, I agree with some of what you are saying about Alex. I do like his new approach with men on base, but I am still concerned with the drop off in power. I think part of it is that pitchers are really trying to tie him up inside, but I suspect that some of it may be health. He could be hurting and we don’t know about it.
cano made a hard slide into home. The way Martinez was set up, all Cano could do was try to kick Martinez’ leg off of the plate. Running him over wasn’t going to get it done.
why are you shaking off with a 5 run lead.
Of course the wild pitch hurts them
I thought they were going to go with the curveball there…
I believe you must be in the act of fielding tge bakk or have the ball to block the plate or it can be ruled interference.
I hate giving runs back the half inning after they score.
The WP hurt this inning.
dear god nomar is brutal.
Jeez, Thames is not a good outfielder
They’re just pea-shooting it to RF. WP was the difference there.
Maybe it’s a female thing, but I am still curious about Beltre and his cup. Do we know if he’s wearing one these days?
only espn could be up the butt of a 19-19 team in 4th place, down 4 runs in the 2nd inning, when the other team is the 2nd best team in all of baseball.
Yes if u have the ball and a player us sliding in you can block the bag and tag him out…
3-4 years ago, Ortiz would have lifted that fly just over the fence in left. His swing was spent.
Patrick
What I said was, it’s in the rulebook that “no runner shall be impeded from touching any base” (I’ll find the rule later). This has nothing to do with Victor Martinez. It has to do with every team being able to do something that is clearly stated as illegal in a rulebook.
Like in the rulebook, the strike zone is clearly defined.
However, umpires have “their own separate strike zones” and have allowed catchers to block home for forever.
Obstruction (Rule 7.06)
“NOTE: The catcher, without the ball in his possession, has no right to block the pathway of the runner attempting to score. The base line belongs to the runner and the catcher should be there only when he is fielding a ball or when he already has the ball in his hand.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/officia.....nner_7.jsp
ac1 – I know that I said that the Yankee offense (this particular lineup) is STILL better than the Sux lineup and that the Yankees would easily get to DiceK.
I also said that the Yankees would win this game.
I retract none of it.
I know the Sux suck.
“Ortiz was late on every one of Hughes’s fastballs even though he was starting his swing earlier than usual.”
But Nomar just told us that Ortiz was still a middle of the order bat on a winning team!
Hughes ERA has “exploded” to 1.54 after that inning.
“But Nomar just told us that Ortiz was still a middle of the order bat on a winning team!”
Yes, in the Twilight Zone.
Youkilis got his hit after he had already K’d. That should have been a 1-2-3 inning.
Ohil 2nd inning 22 pitches too many, he’s at total 41 sox working the count!
Lets hope Hughes has a quick 1-2-3 next inning.
This was from earlier in the game but I think it got lost because Alex got his hit right after I posted it. I think it’s worth a repost.
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Too bad everyone can?t be listening to Orsillo and Remy talk about the Yankees right now. They are spot on but some of you really need to hear it from ?outsiders? to believe it. I will try to quote them as best I can.
The yankees are 2nd in defense, behind the Minnesota Twins. They?re doing it all. They?re hitting, they?re pitching, and they have great defense. And that?s with all of their injuries. (Orsillo) And even though they?re doing all of that, they?re still 2 games behind the Tampa Bay Rays. (Remy) I only see them getting better as the season goes on. They?re doing it all.
I’m not concerned because Hughes often gets better as the game goes on. Plus, the Yankees will probably score more runs. I really think this is a game that Francona will be close to forfeiting (ie. not bringing in his best relievers) because he’ll want to save his bullets for Beckett tomorrow.
im embarrassed for nomar now. his wife had more success in her sport than he did.
Laura May 17th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Maybe it’s a female thing, but I am still curious about Beltre and his cup. Do we know if he’s wearing one these days?
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I really hope so. Obviously, I wouldn’t know- but I don’t think thats a mistake you make twice
They can’t get Youkolis out because umps refuse to call strike 3 on him
With a few exceptions, former players are loath to criticize current players.
So am I wrong then?
Maybe it’s a female thing, but I am still curious about Beltre and his cup. Do we know if he’s wearing one these days?
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I’d check for you but that’s probably a case for justifiable tasering.
Moseley tried giving back the 4-1 lead by giving up 2 runs, but Nunez is now 2-2 with a solo homer. Scranton leads 5-3 in the 3rd inning.
Pena seeing less than 4 pitches in a plate appearance is a travesty.
“I do like his new approach with men on base, but I am still concerned with the drop off in power. ”
Laura,
The limited power Alex has hit for this season isn’t a product of his approach – it’s a product of his mechanics.
His front leg kick was too large and he wasn’t getting his front foot down in time. His mechanics looked very different than where they were in the post season last year. That become very clear from watching him. And Alex himself told Suzanne Waldman after the game where he hit the grand slam that not getting his foot down in time. It was robbing him of power.
But during that game when he hit the grand slam against the twins he fixed that mechanical problem.
He’s going to hit for power now. It’s going to come as long as he keeps his lower body mechanics intact and his swing short.
He took the same approach hitting that grand slam as he did getting that hit tonight to drive in those runs. Same approach. The difference was the pitch he got, some small difference in the swing he put on it, and the count he was in.
He looks very good at the plate. I’m not concerned about his power.
Once hitters start trying to swing more (as they gauge his stuff) he gets better because Hughes will out command them:
39 through 2 vs ChW
41 through 2 vs Det
“I’d check for you but that’s probably a case for justifiable tasering.”
Doesn’t that only happen in PHI? I don’t think the Yankees taser.
pena got strikes. he didnt swing at any balls.
Does anyone remember who is was last season that used to post all of the chicken little comments made during games and then would forbid the posters from rooting for the Yankees? I can’t remember who did it but I always thought it was very funny.
Jeter will swing at anything these days. He has taken over for Cano in that department.
in what world was that a strike
pena got strikes. he didnt swing at any balls.
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He swung 1-0??? Who cares if he gets a strike, he doesn’t have the tools to do anything with it. He should be taking down to 2 strikes.
Laura, thank you for your amazing restraint!
(if I missed a comment, never mind!)
Good thing for Gardner’s patience otherwise it would of been a quick inning for DiceK
Thanks for the info, CB. I hope we start seeing more of the benefits of that mechanical fix.
Pitch counts are completely irrelevant for a starter until he gets through the lineup a couple of times. It’s one thing if he’s behind in the count or walking guys; it’s completely different if there are lots of foul balls when he’s ahead or even in the count. Hughes will get a couple of easy innings, the Sox will start putting more balls into play early in the count because they see he’s getting ahead of most of the batters, not just tonight but in the game at Fenway.
Does Shulman say “just low” only for Dice?
“Laura, thank you for your amazing restraint!”
Trust me, it was a struggle.
Wow, all you guys who complained about the lineup look like IDIOTS right now. Yeah you do.
Tex!!!
Gardner was across the plate before that ball hit the ground.
WOW. McDonald almost made that play! Way to go Gardy!
Nice to get that run back. I thought he caught that for a second.
man thought that was gone by a mile.
that would have been a HR last year, the ball definitely isn’t carrying like it was when the Old Stadium was still standing.
SEXY TEXI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mcdonald should of caught that ball for sure
Run prevention!
Nice defense by the Sox tonight.
Trisha, it was Guiseppe Franco who would post comments he found lacking from that night’s game thread.
So going back to look up people’s past comments and then reposting them to have fun with is ok?
Doesn’t that only happen in PHI? I don’t think the Yankees taser.
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I believe you’re right but honestly, I think if I ran out on the field and tried to touch a player’s crotch? A little electric shock would be the least of my worries.
why are they thinking that should be an error? it was a long fly ball. no way that’s an error.
damn, I thought the ball was long gone
And we think Thames is brutal out there! lol
It’s really amazing how bull strong Tex is. He didn’t even square that ball up well. He got under it and he basically overpowered the ball to drive it to the gap.
Dice-K looked defeated after that ball wasn’t caught.
The wind seems to be giving the outfielders issues today. I hope there aren’t any balls hit to Thames in RF.
Other than Cervelli who noone was complaining about the bottom of the order has done nothing so please stop getting on all those who complained.
Thames Winn Pena is a bad 7-9.
Ron McDonald was doing his best Jacoby impression. Trying to make a play look more difficult than it was.
I never thought the lineup was that bad… I have more faith in guys like Marcus and winn.Randy winn has had a good career
“Wow, all you guys who complained about the lineup look like IDIOTS right now. Yeah you do.”
It’s one thing to complain about the lineup when everyone is healthy. Right now, the Yankees are staring in an old episode of M*A*S*H. Girardi only has so many bullets in the chamber. You can’t criticize the lineup under these circumstances.
I dunno. Looks like they’re tasing Daisuke right now.
I was trying to count the # of people who essentially said this lineup woud struggle to score a few runs.
When will people get it? (I realize some are incapable but you’d think some people would stop with the nonsensical predictions day in and day out).
what the hell is nomar talking about? the ball with dirt looks the same as the blue sky?
I wonder when run prevention starts to kick in for the Sox. Their pitching and defense is putrid.
The Sox just break through on Hughes and score a run.
And Dice-K responds by walking Brett Gardner and then getting a pitch to Tex crushed and let’s the Yankees score again.
Very difficult to play behind this guy, especially as slow as he works.
“Wow, all you guys who complained about the lineup look like IDIOTS right now. Yeah you do.”
If only that would discourage them from the next time…
:roll”
CB May 17th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
It’s really amazing how bull strong Tex is. He didn’t even square that ball up well. He got under it and he basically overpowered the ball to drive it to the gap.
Dice-K looked defeated after that ball wasn’t caught.
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From the left side, Teixeira is able to do what Ortiz used to do, scare the pitcher and overpower good pitches with an average swing.
The official scorer took pity on McDonald. He should have caught that ball.
Nick in SF in Larkspur May 17th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Trisha, it was Guiseppe Franco who would post comments he found lacking from that night’s game thread.
So going back to look up people’s past comments and then reposting them to have fun with is ok?
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Please be sure to includemy 4:09 prediction that the Yankees would score at least 5 runs tonight.
Thankyouverymuch!
Dice-k 21 pitch 2nd inning 53 total for 2 innings
One more time
Wow, all you guys who complained about the lineup look like IDIOTS right now. Yeah you do.
“If only that would discourage them from the next time?”
The other great thing about Tex getting hits against BOS is that it’s an “in your face” reminder of what they could have had and never will.
Laura May 17th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
The official scorer took pity on McDonald. He should have caught that ball.
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it’s a home game, they always score that as a hit. Besides, McDonald never touched the ball, the only way it would scored as an error would be if it was a routine flyball.
I just started the couch to 5 k program. Has anyone used this program before?
If this keeps up I don’t know if I will be able to show my face on here?!
1 more quick out. Do it.
Erica
With your prediction, your either a genius, a psychic, or you’re awesome.
Or you’re all 3.
Or you knew Dice-K was pitching
Erica, but was he the one who would make a list of the names of posters who made dumb complaining comments and then post the list and tell them they couldn’t root for the Yankees? The guy did it every game, whoever it was. I thought it was great.
“it’s a home game, they always score that as a hit. Besides, McDonald never touched the ball, the only way it would scored as an error would be if it was a routine flyball.”
Yes he did. It hit his glove.
ESPN showing Boone and Nomar as teammates from 1993 in the Cape Cod League.
Boone sits like a beer-belly guy… without the beer belly.
Hey ray!!! Nice to see you.
I just started the couch to 5 k program. Has anyone used this program before?
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I’ll bet the first step has something to do with turning off the TV j/k
Yes, Erica, who was it?
Hi Laura. Good to see you too!
is that fat tub of lard pete abe still laughing at the yankee’s lineup?
lol, Michael Kay is trying to find excuse for Mo.
f??king moron
Laura, I was at least half right then
The Hobbitt has 8 dingers? He must be stealing Ortiz’s shakes from the DR.
And Nomar mentions that Jay Payton was on that team. Isn’t Payton sick?
Phil doesn’t look like he’s got control of his FB as well as he’s had in other games. Still getting it done, though.
“Laura, I was at least half right then”
In the end, that’s all that matters.
Maybe next year they can get Wakefield in the broadcast booth with Boone. Nice match…
I just read the injury update on Johnson. The thing that’s the most unbelievable to me is that even after prior surgery on that wrist he needed cortizone shots to get thru last year. So after surgery and more problems needing cortizone shots we go and give him a $5.5m deal and hurry up and sign him closing the door on Matsui and Damon who actually helped the yankees win a world series. Cashman’s off season has stunk, period. Vasquez is a disaster, Granderson’s on the DL and can’t hit leftys and Johnson, who’s always hurt now will be gone for the year. Good thing for Cashman that the Yankee regulars are monsters that can play thru his mistakes. We need a bat, I’m all for Berkman who’s in the last year of a $14m deal with a $2m option playing for Houston who should be dumping soon, they stink.
“Other than Cervelli who noone was complaining about the bottom of the order has done nothing so please stop getting on all those who complained.
Thames Winn Pena is a bad 7-9.”
Why would you even think to complain when you know the team has injuries? And why complain when your manager has brought you the 2nd damned best record in the majors in spite of those injuries? In fact, why complain? Is it a personal affront to you that the Yankees have players in their lineup you don’t like?
Phil is a little more amped up than usual.
Command isn’t as sharp as it’s been.
Looks like Hughes is yanking that fastball a little bit.
Scutaro is a patient hitter who sees a lot of pitches.
He just had a one pitch at bat against Hughes.
When you see a patient hitter swing at the first pitch like that down 6-1, it tells you what he thinks of the pitcher. Scutaro there was basically assuming Hughes would pound the zone and he didn’t want to let hughes get ahead.
And tonight Hughes’s stuff is probably not quite as sharp as it’s been for most of the season.
I can’t believe that Contreras is the closer for PHI. Too funny.
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
Resitance is futile.
I dont think Drew ever went around.
CR9 May 17th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Erica
With your prediction, your either a genius, a psychic, or you’re awesome.
Or you’re all 3.
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Why choose?!?! Lets go with all 3
Resistance, too!
Trisha,
Guess you didn’t hear my messages.
Mel,
All ready for the “double header” tonight
Phil is going to need a quick inning if he wants to pitch deep in the game. His pitch count is really getting up there and its only the 3rd inning.
i love how people think that we should have all star backups for all star players that get hurt. Plus thames (7) had a long sac fly, winn and pena had 1 AB.
Thanks for the advice Trisha. I will take it under advisement.
I thought Phil had really good command in the 1st inning, the long bottom of the 1st may have something to do with the lack of command the last two innings.
“Maybe next year they can get Wakefield in the broadcast booth with Boone. Nice match…”
You ladies are going to think that I’m off my rocker, but in my book, Wakefield is a card carrying member of the Baseball Hotties Club. He’s very cute. He’s not Markakis cute, but cute nonetheless.
Lance Berkman is a shell of himself since he had microfracture knee surgery.
If you are complaining about Granderson being on the DL with a minor injury, how are you going to handle a guy trying to hit on one leg?
He’s not an option.
YankeesWFAN Would you believe the slow-starting Mark Teixeira is 4th in the AL with 30 RBIs now?
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Unreal. You just cnt predict baseball.
Well Hughes is still pitching well.
Hughes is overthrowing some. I think that’s why his command is off.
The umpire’s strike zone is wondering but it looks asymmetric so far. It’s much more generous to Hughes’ arm side than his glove side.
It’ll be interesting to see if Hughes starts to try to work that side of the plate more as the game goes on.
How about that Tony Sanchez??? Sporting a .900+ OPS so far this season!
We could use some pitches seen this inning to give Phil a bit of a break.
“YankeesWFAN Would you believe the slow-starting Mark Teixeira is 4th in the AL with 30 RBIs now?
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Unreal. You just cnt predict baseball.”
Actually, with Tex, you can. He does this every year. Horrible Apr, great rest of the season.
“YankeesWFAN Would you believe the slow-starting Mark Teixeira is 4th in the AL with 30 RBIs now?”
WHAT THE BYFUGLIEN?????
SJ44 May 17th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Phil is a little more amped up than usual.
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national tee vee + the red sox can do that.
It reminds me of when CC started game one of the ’07 ALDS and walked 6 yankees after only walking 37 batters during the entire year.
Whenever the Yanks have a long inning. Hughes gets into a little trouble. But still gets out of it without much damage.
Orsillo – the Yankees have found their catcher of the future.
Me too, Don!
wow, I can get HD feed from both YES and ESPN.
shocker! I guess Comcast forgets to turn off the switch
michelle
Hughes has had games like this where he would throw a lot of pitches and then go 7 innings with no trouble.
No RISP = no hit for Cervelli
the funny thing is that Matsuzaka seems to be throwing much better than last year and the Yankees have still ripped him tonight.
so Derek Jeter is all sorts of adorable in that helmet….
Ha Jeter with the Gazoo helmet.
I still think that Cervelli will be a backup on this team for years to come. But he might be one of the best backup catchers in baseball.
“Phil is a little more amped up than usual.
Command isn?t as sharp as it?s been.”
I’m thinking that the long inning had a temporary effect on him.
NYY626
Dont you get any ideas! You hear me?!! Derek is MY PBF #1
Hi Trisha,
Did you get my emails?
for a guy you all love to hate, Thames has a very live bat and it hitting about .350, how much more can the guy do? He’s not a good outfielder but actually looks more comfortable in right field than in left.
Teixeria
Apr 9 RBI .136 BA
May 21 RBI .349 BA
Fran, I didn’t know you were here – there – well you know what I mean.
Latroy Hawkins!
Fran, just got it (had to do a send/receive to get it)
Here we go with 2 strike big head
They just refuse to call that third K
for a guy you all love to hate, Thames has a very live bat and it hitting about .350, how much more can the guy do? He’s not a good outfielder but actually looks more comfortable in right field than in left.
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He is hitting .200 for may with no power
“Ha Jeter with the Gazoo helmet.”
He told Kim yesterday no one would ever get a picture of him wearing it. They got video instead.
“for a guy you all love to hate, Thames has a very live bat and it hitting about .350,…”
I don’t hate Thames or Winn. I just don’t think they belong on this team. Even in the world of reserve or part time guys, they don’t cut it.
CR9 May 17th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
NYY626
Dont you get any ideas! You hear me?!! Derek is MY PBF #1
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haha, you, me and about a zillion other people CR!
Damon would have dropped that.
Hughes might never be a GB pitcher again, because his cutter is 100% weak fly. Still a good pitch.
If umps would call the strike zone against this Lumberjack he would be be a 280 hitter
Winn makes the catch!
I wonder if Hughes is getting squeezed just a bit.
MG,
It’s amazing that people still think the Yanks need an All-Star at every position in order to win.
A good portion of this board wanted Cashman fired in the offseason because he was going to allow Brett Gardner to play too much.
With egg still dripping down their chins, they continue to rip a team that is winning lots of games despite lots of injuries.
Thames has done what could have been expected of him, if not much more.
If the Yanks truly need a player or two in a month or two, they’ll get it.
Does anybody really think it’s going to be a seller’s market at the deadline for DH’s?
There are probably going to be a boatload of DH/1B types available at the break for bargain prices.
CC just raved about Hughes’ command on ESPN — but can we trust what he says?
eek, I didn’t realize the Blue Jays were closer to us than to the Red Sox
Every Yankee does when they face the Red Sox and especially against Big Head
Triple
None of those pitches to Youkilis were strike 3. They were all balls.
Change for strike 3
“It’s amazing that people still think the Yanks need an All-Star at every position in order to win.”
I don’t think that at all. Is Eric Hinske an All Star? Not even close. But he would have been a better option than Thames or Winn.
1st called strike 3 i believe
That was a change. Nice !
Fran, just sent you an email.
“the funny thing is that Matsuzaka seems to be throwing much better than last year and the Yankees have still ripped him tonight.”
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Daisuke has been really bad, and especially inconsistent, since 2008.
2008 was a bit fluky though. Still, it was an impressive year for Daisuke. 2009-10 have been awful.
BD (Boston Dave) ,
I’m not as tough on Cash as alot on here. The Vasquez and Granderson deals were no brainers. The Johnson deal was just horrid. He is Mark Prior with a bat
Come on !
BD at 8:28. Great post
BD,
Well said. Thames has done the job with the stick despite playing more than originally thought because of injury.
Mistake pitch there by Phil.
damn ortiz always giving hughes trouble
crushed
I hate Ortiz.
Never understood the throw the ball back on the field. Unfortunately the HR still counts.
The one bad thing Phil has done this year is pitch to Ortiz, he continues to throw him cutters for some bizarre reason. He can’t hit your fastball, a bad job by him and Frankie for continuing to not throw Ortiz your best pitch.
Is anyone else worried that Big Po-opy is back?
CR9,
Since when do pitches have to be strikes for these umps to call them? Youkolis gets more borderline calls then anyone else in baseball
89 mph cutter. Got to go hard in on Ortiz.
Back to work Yankee bats!
Is anyone else worried that Big Po-opy is back?
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Not really.
What a sequence from Hughes to Martinez. That was just unfair. That at bat is why Hughes using his change up more to left handed hitters is going to be so devastating.
He’s shown Martinez the fastball and curve. Martinez Then he throws the change up and Martinez can’t identify it and locks up.
Sorry, I went back and looked at that post and thought you had answered. You were just asking for credit.
I hope pitchers wise up on Ortiz and realize how much he is cheating to hit the ball i mean he started that bat so early. Pitching him away would stop that.
2 more innings for Phil. I will be happy with 6.
Laura,
Perhaps Hinske would have been a little better than Thames or Winn as the 4th or 5th OF but you are looking at players who are not much different.
They are the same class or tier of players.
However, Hinske signed for $1.5M in early in the offseason, before the Yanks knew what was going on with Damon, OR the rest of the market.
Very little chance hte Yanks could have signed Hinske, IMO, because of how early he signed in the offseason (7 weeks prior to Damon signing with Detroit, FWIW).
That credit post was for Erica
The ESPN guys are raving about how great it was of Ortiz to hit that pitch. Aaron Boone said that it was “special”. I think I’m going to hurl.
Phil’s just a little off tonight. Though that was a SICK change to Martinez.
I hope he goes 7 tonight.
I wonder if Cash will sign Ortiz this off season.
After all, they’re still gonna need DH, especially if Montero isn’t ready to come up and free posada to DH.
“I hope pitchers wise up on Ortiz and realize how much he is cheating to hit the ball i mean he started that bat so early.”
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true… Hughes just missed with taht pitch though.
A changeup or two to Ortiz may be a good idea, for the reasons you stated.
That was an example of what Eiland has been telling him not to do…..falling in love too much with the cutter.
Ortiz showed no ability to catch up with Phil’s fastball in his first AB.
This AB? Three pitches…cutter, changeup, cutter that was crushed.
Speed up Ortiz’s bat and he can still hurt you.
Bad sequence by ‘Cisco and Phil in that AB.
Hughes fell in love with the cutter some that inning and missed his spot with it up.
His best pitch is that four seam fastball. Ortiz was late on his fastball the first time up.
wow, Winn got a hit?
About Randy Winn…
Winn is definitly getting better…
BloggingBombers Really, Papi? You really shouldn’t pimp your solo home run when you’re down 6-2. Act like you’ve been there before.
Hope they put one in Papi’s ribs next time up.
The dude is finished and he still stares at his home runs. What a jackass
“Is anyone else worried that Big Po-opy is back?”
I’m worried he won’t be back in 2011.
“I wonder if Cash will sign Ortiz this off season.
After all, they’re still gonna need DH”
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I dont think so.
DH’s grow on trees these days anyway.
And Ortiz is an average DH at best.
“Very little chance hte Yanks could have signed Hinske, IMO, because of how early he signed in the offseason (7 weeks prior to Damon signing with Detroit, FWIW).”
I understand the situation with Hinske. Hairston also reported that he couldn’t wait for the Yankees either.
Pena should be bunting the runner over here. Mind as well get the runner over since he can’t hit.
“Winn is definitly getting better…”
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well, he has a long career that suggest he was never that bad.
But people don’t have much patience for guys who start out slow I guess.
He should be just fine for a 4th/5th OF.
Well, everyone else’s lack of worry as quelled my fears.
does that make the bottom 4 in the order 2-6 with 2 RBI’s already?
This SJ44 impostor is pretty good. But I do have to wonder…who spends time learning/studying how someone posts on a blog in order to impersonate them? I mean really, who has the time to do that?
I know its a small sample size but Cervelli has looked pretty good with the bat, Wasn’t he like a 190 hitter in the minors? Did he change his approach? What is he doing differently?
Ortiz ain’t getting any younger.
And – why aren’t they trying to run? I would think they could get a good jump on DiceK.
Laura,
I certainly am not pointing any fingers. But it just seems like people look at the lineup and if htey don’t see 9 solid hitters they get upset.
The lineup the Yanks have out there right now would still be one of the best in the majors.
Further, their starting pitching is what is winning them games these days anyway.
They don’t need 7 runs every game to win. This lineup should be good enough to win, along with this rotation, until guys get healthy.
No need for all those who want to write off the Yanks before the game has even started.
“well, he has a long career that suggest he was never that bad.”
Didn’t Winn have a God awful season last year? Or am I imagining that?
that was a great trade by the Sox to pick up Victor Martinez, he is just awful behind the plate…
Good work there Martinez. This defense Theo put together really looks great.
Does anyone know where I could find out who leads the league in hits w/ RISP? For individual players, not the teams?
That’s why I hoped Posada would catch – because the last time Phil fell in love with his cutter, Eiland had to come out instead of Cervelli.
“I certainly am not pointing any fingers.”
Are you sure because I’m pretty certain that I can see you staring at me through your webcam.
Winn has looked much better now that he is getting consistent at bats. He went almost a month without seeing pitching of course he was going to have trouble hitting. He will be playing for another 2 weeks so hopefully he can continue hitting.
Ortiz is done. Pitchers should stop pitching to him like he is the Ortiz of old and just go after him.
Also when is Ortiz going to serve his suspension ?
Jeremy
What suspension?
Cervelli is calling the pitches plus the bench could give him a sign for a fastball if they wanted Phil to throw one. So it’s not just on Cervelli.
trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 17th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
That credit post was for Erica
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Yup. Pretty much. I kind of thought I deserved it
Laura,
No imposter tonight. It’s me. Home for a change and decided to pop in.
Also when is Ortiz going to serve his suspension ?
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Dunno, whenever A-rod serves his I guess…
It’s hard to believe how Matsuzaka was scouted and thought to be worth $103M. Perhaps his stuff really fell off – but even his first year his stuff wasn’t particularly impressive. When he went 18-3 it wasn’t that impressive as his control was poor and he didn’t work deep in games.
That auction for Dice-K was lauded as another example of Theo’s savvy as a GM – particularly as it drew on his whole educational background. The whole notion of Theo having mastered auction theory was great.
Dice K just has poor command. He cannot consistently put the ball where he wants to and doesn’t have a very live arm.
Dice K is getting squezzed honestly
Winn has looked much better now that he is getting consistent at bats
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Michelle,
Absolutely. It is hard to get into any rhythm without playing regularly.
That was some vintage 2009 Brett Gardner
“No imposter tonight. It’s me. Home for a change and decided to pop in.”
Really. Thought you stayed away from all game posts.
Winn can be a key contributor for us this year.
Damn would of been nice to get another run there
Michelle, no it’s on Phil…..I guess he’ll eventually learn not to fall in love with it. It seems like it’s a struggle for him tonight, which happens to every pitcher……..if he can get through 6, that will be ok.
In five years in the minors, Cervelli has a .273 BA. He was hitting .190 in Trenton before his call-up last year, but he is not a .190 MiL hitter.
“Winn has looked much better now that he is getting consistent at bats. He went almost a month without seeing pitching of course he was going to have trouble hitting. He will be playing for another 2 weeks so hopefully he can continue hitting.”
Absolutely correct. And that will hold true the next time a period of time goes by where he isn’t playing consistently. (Pre-emptory)
Why are we not running on them?
At the least, trying to put pressure on them?
Dice-K doesnt have great velocity on his fastball, is slow to home plate, and Victor behind the plate.
That’s the perfect 3 way recipe for disaster.
My friend is sitting with the Bleacher Creatures tonight at the Stadium and just reported a “Recall Dice-K” chant. LOL. I will not post about the t-shirt Bald Vinnie is wearing as it would not make it through the filter here.
Patrick
Ortiz said that anybody who got caught using PED’s should serve a suspension. A-rod didn’t say that and neither did any other user except Ortiz.
What I can’t believe is Matsuzaka was actually considered a prospect; at one point, I think BA had ranked him #1 and Phil #4. That’s ridiculous; this is a man with real professional experience and he’s being compared to kids?
As to Phil again, it’s nice that he broke out the change; you try to take something positive out of all outings, even ones in which you struggle.
Coulda landed a knockout punch there- yanks letting them hang around
” “No imposter tonight. It’s me. Home for a change and decided to pop in.”
Really. Thought you stayed away from all game posts. ”
ISWYDT (I See What You Did There)
It’s nice to see the Sox get a bad contract for once in Dice-K. A very expensive one…It seems like the Yanks usually get the bad ones.
“# Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos May 17th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
In five years in the minors, Cervelli has a .273 BA. He was hitting .190 in Trenton before his call-up last year, but he is not a .190 MiL hitter.”
He can hit a little. He just doesn’t have a lot power. There was a couple of seasons he hit .300 too.
CR9
Ortiz said that Ped users should be suspended. So Ortiz should ban himself since he got busted last year according to his own rules.
looking like that quick inning phil needed.
From the stats, it looks like Winn certainly had a down year last season, but I don’t know about G-d-awful.
Shame
Here you go
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sorta.....osCode=all
CR9,
Good point. Martinez is not good at throwing out runners and the Yanks have speed.
Jeremy
Gotcha! I thought he threw bats at the umpires again, or was getting suspended for going CR9 ballistic on the umpires the other day against the Jays.
Trevor -
Yes, I did see that, too. I don’t miss the power from him, though, in this role. And I love the speed and his ability to bunt.
Patrick May 17th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
That was some vintage 2009 Brett Gardner
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Scored 2 of our 6 runs tonight; 2010 Gardner
Cervelli is hitting .769 with RISP? Did I see that correctly?!?
Hughes was looking at a very economical inning until Scutaro’s AB.
Hughes is gonna be done soon. Too bad.
Patrick
Do you ever say anything positive about the Yankees ?
Darn, had a chance for a quick inning.
Eh, I was hoping for an easy inning but Phil couldn’t put Scutaro away. He’s not throwing that hard tonight -92?
Huhges needs to use his curve and change more on 2 strike counts just to give the batter a different look just make sure its out the strike zone.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 17th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Eh, I was hoping for an easy inning but Phil couldn’t put Scutaro away. He’s not throwing that hard tonight -92?
Throwing too many pitches. almost at 100 already. Looks tired.
Hughes command is off this game. He’s missed a number of spots – including on that hit to Scutarro.
He’s going to have games like this. He’s not always going to have his plus command.
This is where diversifying his arsenal will help. So far his response to his fastball command being a bit off has been to rely on his cutter more.
He’s got to try to get thru 6, and even into the 7th if possible.
Tough for this bullpen to get 9 outs.
Got to get Pedroia here.
The whole notion of Theo having mastered auction theory was great.
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That’s pretty funny.
Give me 51 million to bid. I’ll net you a whole boatload of mediocre starters. But I’m still not sure even that ridiculous bid beats Igawa’s 26,000192$
And it’s the 192$ that’s the subtle killer in that one.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 17th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Eh, I was hoping for an easy inning but Phil couldn’t put Scutaro away. He’s not throwing that hard tonight -92?
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Hughes sits between 92-94
Phil is working slowly tonight……..he can’t go past 6
“Michelle, no it’s on Phil…..I guess he’ll eventually learn not to fall in love with it”
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Phil does fall in love with his cutter. You know Eiland will talk to him about it.
The reason why he is throwing 92 is because they are 2 seamers.
They’re geared up for the FB. Tough to put them away.
Come on Phil get the smurf out. It’s unreal how many pitches they foul off.
The Sox are doing a good job fighting off pitches.
Hughes just has to grind here and not give in.
One of the things that would help Phil a great deal moving forward would be getting more ground ball outs. He’s not generating a great deal of ground balls.
It seems like pitches that most other pitchers would get ground balls on hitters are fouling off against Hughes but not putting into play.
Phil should try to hit the inside corner with a fastball.
why doesn’t Dave Eiland teach Hughes how to get guys out when up 1-2, 0-2?
Hughes problem tonight has been putting batters away.
Don’t mess with ‘Cisco’s health, Hughes!
Hughes was due for a tough start but even without his best stuff he is pitching pretty well.
what a freaking ab
Get him out of the game.
Can phil get out of this?
pat – Thanks!! I don’t know why I couldn’t seem to navigate mlb.com.
That was a bad pitch. Hughes has to finish this inning in order to get a win, but he’s obviously tiring.
Now it’s trouble. Hottest hitter coming up in Drew and Hughes may be spent.
A hit here, new ballgame.
Good job by Winn allowing the smurf to advance. Phil gets beat by another cutter.
Id start the AB with a curve on the outside corner that pitch has been working for him all night.
0-1
Why is Boone Logan warming???????
Why is Winn here?
This game is far from over and these two runners are huge.
safe to say hughes is done after 5
ty
Yeah and Hughes doesn’t get guys out with 2 strikes.
That was a really dumb comment.
Its like Joba with the slider. When you have a great 4 seamer, you need to use it.
This is the kind of situation where a change up is a huge weapon.
0-2 again
Cheap strike 2 to Drew!
another 10 pitch at bat coming up
LOL
Really big at bat here…Come on Hughes!!
Come on, Phil, I want a shake tonight!
Come on Hughes. Just 1 more strike.
what a joke
Can he put someone away? The Sox are having great abs here.
Throw a changeup. They’re just going to keep fouling off the fastball.
Doesn’t matter what anyone wants. What matters is what Phil can deliver.
Crap
WHY DID HE THROW INSIDE?
Wow……….
OUCH!
ugh
It’s not fun being on the opposite end of a bloop and a blast.
Ouch
Hughes is throwing plenty of strikes. 68%. Many though are not quality.
Effing loser John Flaherty asked for it.
i think everyone saw that coming…
let him get the last out at least
Son of a gun.
Was that another cutter?
Why am I not surprised..The long Pedroia at bat finished Hughes.
what a choke job. cutter again. terrible.
I rather have Dice-K
He won’t even get through 5 now
Wow!
Be sure to leave him in Joe so he gets the win.
uh – what the heck was that
typical yankee/sox game.
Why go down and in ever????????????
Ok, please don’t deliver another meatball, Phil!
I’m sorry but there’s NO WAY Drew should have been giving anything to hit inside. You pitch to the big part of the stadium, it’s that simple.
Carl, a choke job? He’s just had a bad game – it happens
geez – just get the lats freaking out
I’ve been saying it since the offseason, Phil will get burned by his cutter are some point. Well it’s finally happened
Again a cutter inside, why not a curve? Hughes was due for a bad one but that pitch selection was horrible.
It seems like that Yankees were really dominating and now it is only a 1 run game.
You dont use your curveball & change up to keep batters honest and that is what happens to you.
Stop falling in love with your fastball!!
At least Dice-K hasn’t given up a homerun yet.
I dislike Drew…
nice play Tex
still in line for the win
tex with the gem
at little too late, Tex.
…and I love Teix!
Same pitch Mo gave up the grand slam on. Cutter that didn’t cut.
Beaten by the cutter again.
Horrible, horrible, horrible job by Cervelli.
You can’t give it up with the cutter again.
That’s a rookie catcher mistake in a BIG way.
Not good at all.
Patrick
Do you eve say anything positive about the Yankees. Everything always seems to be negative.
He’s a bit too in love with that cutter. Especially tonight when it’s obviously not cutting.
It’s like listening to the other team’s broadcast.
Nomar this, Red Sox that. Losers for commentators. Asking for a 3 run homer to make the game close again.
I was hoping for a change to Drew, he was looking for something in and he got it…..
Why doesn’t he throw a curveball in that sequence?
“I’m sorry but there’s NO WAY Drew should have been giving anything to hit inside. You pitch to the big part of the stadium, it’s that simple.”
I agree. Lefties like that ball down and in. Damon feasted on that pitch last season. I would have pitched Drew off the plate.
Meanwhile, Dice-K is on cruise…………
get some runs back
The cutter did him in tonight. He needed more curves and more changeups. Rough game.
jeezus… what the heck? Hughes sucking some wind tonight…
Guess he was due for a bad game………..it won’t be the last one he has this year.
SJ44
I noticed that too. Cervelli called the wrong pitch. I don’t know why he went with another cutter when they were looking for it. Oh Well ! just try to win the game.
Phil needs to use his curve and change more, especially when his fastball is not missing bats. He will learn.
So, Hughes is at 104 pitches. I’ve gotta let him come out and go after Martinez and maybe Ortiz. If NYYs can score 4 runs or so, I might pull him. It’s been a struggle for him since the 2nd inning.
the offense needs to get going again…this is gonna be a tough game to win if we need to get this many innings from the pen
94 mph fastball, and he keeps getting beaten on the cutter.
You have to see what’s going on and adjust back. The Red Sox have very obviously been sitting on the cutter. Ortiz hit one out, Pedroia ripped one for a double after spoiling 4-seamers, and Drew was way late on 4-seamers up until the cutter. Why are you helping these guys out when they can’t catch up to your fastball? If that cutter is 88 mph and not 91-92, they are going to crush it when they are inbetween like that.
Just a terrible job, dumb pitch sequences are helping out a team that doesn’t deserve to win this game.
Did hughes thow back to back curveballs at all tonight?
Maybe this will teach Hughes a lesson, these are big league hitters keep throwing the same speed and the same location they will hit it no matter how good the pitch is. Get them next time Young Master Phillip, now the Yankees have to go out and win this game.
SJ thats on Hughes not Cervelli.
Hughes struggled all night w/ too many pitches, nothing to put hitters away.
Let’s go O. How is our lineup now?
Why not use his curve? It’s almost like he is a 2 pitch pitcher now…………is he stubborn?
Way too many cutters. Its a good pitcher for Hughes but he has only thrown a handful of curveballs in this game.
Thank Kay for saying “he hasnt given it up so far”
1 more inning for Phil I say
Can’t get beat on anything nut fastballs when you have a five run lead.
That’s why Eiland has told him not to fall in love with the cutter.
Once you got burned by Ortiz, you can’t get beat by Drew in that situation.
That’s on the catcher to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Learning experience for both young guys tonight.
That’s a major mistake.
I don’t understand how Cervelli AND Phil could have gone with the cutter when most of us here knew it was the wrong pitch. Drew should have seen offspeed stuff away, but even the fastball/cutter away would have been fine. A cutter down and in? That’s exactly what Drew wanted.
He was due for a bad start. No one is perfect everyone has a bad start. But I’m sure Phil will bounce back in his next start.
Phil pitched 28 in the 5th, he’s at 104 after 5. He’s done.
And besides that, all game Drew has been cheating on the inside cutter and pulling it foul.
You have to be more aware of what the hitter is trying to do, that is all on Cervelli there for getting a little lazy with pitch sequences with the big lead.
The Red Sox have been sitting cut fastball all night.
And he keeps throwing it over and over.
Tonight he became predictable.
It’s unfortunate. Tonight was a night where he needed the change up and didn’t have the confidence to throw it because he hasn’t needed to use it so far this season.
But tonight was the night where he needed a change up to left handed hitters and didn’t feel comfortable throwing it.
So he kept trying to use that cut fastball and two left handed hitters hit two home runs off that pitch.
Tonight’s game was the first one where Hughes largely being a two pitch pitcher (particularly to LH hitters) hurt him.
what the heck was that?
Eiland and Girardi are going to be extremely upset with that at bat to Drew. You can’t beat by your cutter again in this game. The Sox do a great job fouling off pitch after pitch exactly what the Yanks used to do. The Yanks allowed Dice-K to settle down after the 1st inning.
was his cutter cutting? It didn’t seem like it had a lot of bite tonight.
I think those 2 long innings on the bench screwed up his rhythm.
MH
That was on Cervelli as well. Because Cervelli called the pitch and Hughes located it right where he wanted it. So it was Hughes and Cervelli’s fault.
I love the kid but you cant be thowing the cutter 28% of the time….. that is WAY TO HIGH
awful
CB
Sad part was he got a strike out looking on the change up and shelved it.
where was Hughes’ changeup? I thought it had become a decent pitch?
Phil did say in ST that he was confident in the change (almost liked it more than his curve), but that he’d have to see how major leaguers dealt with it in real games………..Was that just talk?
I thought the whole idea was that Phil have a complete arsenal so that he didn’t have to rely on 2 pitches………what’s happened? This is why I’ve questioned the lack of use of his curve.
That’s on Cervelli. He calls the game.
That’s why Pettitte was talking to him in the dugout.
Rookie mistake and hopefully a lesson learned.
Now there is a scouting report on Hughes and he failed to adjust
awful, awful job.
How sweet will it be if we win this game even after Phil showed some growing pains and got roughed up a little by the Socks?
Michelle
So the Yankees don’t foul off pitches and work the count anymore ?
You make it sound like the Red Sox are in first place and that they are some great team.
It’s time for the Yanks to wake back up. They got 6 runs early but big deal its now a 1 run lead.
He threw a couple of good change ups earlier in the game. Not sure why he is so reluctant to throw it in situations like that. We shouldn’t forget that he is still learning and figuring things out.
at this point, i’d be happy with a win no matter who gets credit.
No way we hold a 1 run lead for the next 4 innings against this lineup.
Hughes couldn’t even hold a 5 run lead. Just a miserable performance. And will probably cost us the W too.
After 5 innings from Mitre yesterday, we get 5 from Hughes.
Some people need to get a grip. Anytime a Yankee doesn’t come through this board goes crazy.
can anyone on this offense buy a hit please?
sunny615 May 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
was his cutter cutting? It didn’t seem like it had a lot of bite tonight.
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The Cutter to Ortiz was a good one the Cutter to Drew was an okay one but they were sitting on it and waiting for it. Hughes will learn he needs to have off-speed pitches working.
Now we are having bad at bats.
Patrick
Do you eve say anything positive about the Yankees. Everything always seems to be negative.
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Read the blog more often Jeremy, usually I’m overwhelmingly optimistic. You can’t deny it though, Phil was burned by his cutter tonight. Of the 6 hits allowed, 4 were off cutters, 2 being home runs.
Don’t get me wrong, Phil is my favorite Yankee pitcher and I was saying since the beginning of the season that he’s ready to be an ace. But at the same time I noticed that he doesn’t have great command of the cutter and that eventually he would get hurt by it. Well he certainly has been pitching like an ace but his cutter got hit hard tonight.
I don’t know what Girardi’s going to do. Does he send Hughes out for the 6th inning? Who the heck can you trust out of the bullpen this early in the game? I’d almost rather see Park than Logan/Marte/Robertson but he could be rusty or amped up.
that’s ok. great ab by cano. in 2008, that’s a 3 pitch ab.
battle of the bullpens once again
So Dice-K adjusts to the Yankee hitters but Phil can’t adjust to them?
I thought Dice-K was the overrated one? He is just mowing us down now.
Yah, they need to score more, but it IS a big deal that they got 6 early. Otherwise they might be behind.
Phil is going to have more games like this; I hope his start didn’t make anyone believe that that wasn’t going to be the case. I know what CB and co. have said about pounding the FB over and over again, but he’s got a very good curve, so why limit yourself to 2 pitches (FB, cutter)? I think he did use the change tonight right?
Not fair to blame Cervelli. Phil has had no problem shaking him off all night. Phil decided on the cutter, threw it a lot and gave up 4 hits with it. Can’t blame the catcher for that.
Funny but Phil is the only one I trust to pitch the next inning. Hope Logan is dominant.
“I was hoping for a change to Drew, he was looking for something in and he got it…..”
pat m-
hughes fooled both ortiz’s and drew’s bats right into the ball with those two cutters.
they see fastball down the middle and commit and the ball comes slower than expected so the bat moves ahead right to where the cutter now is.
hughes has to get those pitches more inside so they can only hit them foul if they hit them.
Very disappointing in Hughes. Tonight is a step back for him. A guy with his stuff should not be fooling around with cutters with a 5 run lead. That isin’t how to pitch.
Thames!!!
big hit by thames…big big hit
Oh man did we need that hit in the biggest way! Thank you Thames!!
Nice Job Thames!!
Wow way to go Marcus! He just flicked his wrists and yanked that into left. Fast hands
Nice job of hitting by Thames.
Good job, Marcus!
apparently thames can hit righties too.
thames has some power!
CB, I agree. Tonight was the night he needed to throw the change up more. He did some but not enough. Drew kills him if you look at his career numbers and Ortiz hits him pretty well too. Two lefty’s you’re going to need a change up if you’re Hughes.
Woo Hoo Marcus!
Cervelli! Thames!
Girardi!
How sweet will it be if we win this game even after Phil showed some growing pains and got roughed up a little by the Socks?
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Very good, Nick! Thats what I’m hoping, a win and a learning experience for our Ace
THames
you’re supposed to be a black hole
i didn’t know just how much I needed that Thames triple.
He’s 23 years old, wow………..what do some people expect from him?
All right, a clutch hit.
That inning give-away out at home plate really changed this game.
Atta boy Thames. Thats big to come back and get one after the top half of the inning.
Sox offense is MUCH hotter than ours is.
People said they didn’t have the ability to come back from big deficits… they did it against CC and did it again tonight against Hughes.
With the way we are swinging the bats, their pen should have a much easier time with our O than our pen will have with their offense.
Is it just me, or are the Red Sox OFs having trouble playing the field tonight?
Will Winn be able to catch up to Wake’s knuckler?
Darn it, Thames. You suck. Why did Girardi put this lousy bottom of the lineup in tonight. Unbelievable.
*kidding*
Big hit from Thames. He really drilled that.
Tonight is not a step back for him – he had a bad game, that’s all.
“Very disappointing in Hughes. Tonight is a step back for him. A guy with his stuff should not be fooling around with cutters with a 5 run lead. That isin’t how to pitch.”
a step back is a touch harsh dont you think? the dude has been dominant all year….the same thing can, and has, happened to CC AJ Pettitte and every other pitcher in the game
Betsy
I know ! They act like every yankee has to be perfect. If we had Halladay and he had a bad start this board would call him a bum.
The Trolls and the bandwagon Yankee fans are the worse.
In a way it’s kind of good that Hughes threw a few more cutters. Just so he can maybe master it in the future.
I’m not able to read the posts tonight, but I can only imagine all the BS that is being bantered about.. Somebody check on Betsy please. Yanks will win.. Heading into Staples
Is it not possible that sometimes a guy wakes up and for no particular reason at all, he just doesn’t have “it” as far as pitching for a night? You know, just a bad night? Perhaps it’s not more than that for Hughes tonight.
Hopefully, Hughes (and Cervelli) has learned from this particular outing and will work on that third pitch between starts. And Eiland will get them to start working on strategy vs overpowering stuff.
Here’s a non-accusatory question – but would Posada have called it differently in that JD at bat?
Phil Will learn, I’m not worried one bit. Win This game, just win.
“So the Yankees don’t foul off pitches and work the count anymore ?”
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Some of their batters do, but they are definitely not as patient as they used to be. The Sox totally wore down Hughes.
Huge hit by Thames. That’s a nig run if Boone Logan is coming in.
Patrick,
After the Ortiz HR, you don’t let the pitcher shake you off to throw a cutter to Drew in that situation.
That’s a rookie mistake.
A veteran C never allows that to happen.
Hopefully, ‘Cisco learned his lesson.
You do not get beat with a cutter AGAIN after you already got beat with one by Ortiz.
That is something Joba last year would have done… I would have expected better from Hughes
Anyway, let’s hope the pen does its job. A win is a win.
ick
Any one complaining about Phil is ridiculous. Kid gave up 6 runs all year before tonight…..
He’s 23 years old, wow………..what do some people expect from him?
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Tonight is when Posada behind the plate would have been better. Cervelli’s defense isn’t really needed with Hughes or the red sox (they dont steal)
lol, some people on here…Hughes has been the best pitcher in the AL this year and is 23 years old….He gives up a few runs and the world implodes…..its funny really. BTW….he’s still in line for the win.
kinda hard to wear down anyone with a lineup that includes Thames, Winn, Cervelli, and Pena instead of NJ, Granderson, Posada and Swisher.
Tough night for Hughes but I’m hardly surprised. He just faced the Sox a week ago Friday, it’s crazy to think they wouldn’t hit him better a second time around. I think you can look at Cervelli/Hughes’ inexperience and make some conclusions. SJ44 was probably half right blaming Cervelli for calling all the cutters. Hughes and Cervelli should have gotten together and realized the cutter wasn’t working and gone with more curveballs/changeups.
Maybe this is a good learning experience for both of those guys. Phil has a very good curve and a decent change, they will play in the big leagues. Now he just has to throw both pitches more.
One thing about Cervelli’s pitch calling…earlier in the game he did call for a changeup but was shaken off. So it’s possible that in the AB to Drew he just didn’t bother because he could sense that Hughes wasn’t comfortable with it.
“He is just mowing us down now.”
4 2/3 innings 7 runs? Mowing down? I think you’re confused.
Hopefully the yankees keep it up, and they can get a nice win to go with the lesson
lol Pat M, I’m fine. I’m disappointed, of course, but anyone that thought he was going to go through the season not having a few bad games was fooling themselves – even the best get tatooed. Phil apparently had good stuff early, but the long innings seemed to hurt him. His pace was very slow – like he had no confidence tonight. Usually he is very eager to throw the ball, but not tonight. I hope that he’s not becoming stubborn about his cutter and I hope that he hasn’t forgotten about his curve. He did throw some change ups and that’s good………….He’s got some things to learn, but he’s a baby and he will.
Why are people blaming the offense? They have scored 7 runs!!! All with a D lineup! Blame Hughes for unraveling with a 5 run lead. What, the offense is supposed to score 10?
Read all the posts from this afternoon saying Girardi was mailing in the game and we would be lucky to score 1 run. Not the case, eh?
Offense has done more than enough tonight.
It’s really remarkable actually considering that those four are out and that the Yanks have been dealing with a slew of injuries throughout the year and are still only a game out of having the best record in baseball.
Tom in NJ: Girardi is the lunatic that turned in that lineup. Grrrrrrr.
Did Pat M skip the first quarter of the hoops game to watch Phil pitch?
That’s a good PBG.
Agree with SJ. No shaking off to throw another cutter. Reminds me of a young Andy Pettitte on that one. He still can get the win.
Hughes…
104 pitches = 57 fastballs, 30 cutters, 14 curveballs, 3 changeups
SJ44,
As I was just saying, I half agree with you. If Posada is calling the game, you’re right, he’d never call that pitch. But Phil has to agree with the pitch and have conviction in it. He wanted to throw the cutter as much as Cerv so it’s unfair to blame one of them. I think of this as a learning experience for both Phil and Frankie. Maybe next time out Phil works in more curves and changes
Throws some strikes here Boone.
Todd, Phil’s a baby – he’s going to learn from his bad outings, he really will.
how many will Logan walk?
Haven’t heard any blame put on Eiland for Hughes/Cervilli pitch sequence when the Red Sox were making Hughes work.
I’m already thinking about what Francessa, Joe & Evan, etc. are going to say tomorrow about Phil…
Aceves injury could kill this team in 2 straight games
I hate seeing boone come into a close game
It’s a learning experience for young guys.
Veterans are veterans for a reason….experience.
Now we have to sweat out Boone Logan who again can’t throw strikes.
Come on Boone,.
STRIKES!
throw a strike logan
Logan is a left handed Bruney. He never throws strikes. If Girardi leaves him out there the game will be tied soon. I can’t believe he is on this team.
In that case, Nick, I agree.
Why Logan, he stinks, can’t throw strikes.
Note to Boone Logan. Throw strikes. Or try to learn to throw them in Scraton.
Maybe no more Kim Jones interviews?
why cant he throw strikes..??
Boone Logan doesn’t deserve to pitch in this game. He can’t throw strikes, and this is a lineup that will take pitches. I’d rather take my chances with a rusty Chan Ho Park.
“hughes has to get those pitches more inside so they can only hit them foul if they hit them.”
It was inevitable that Hughes would have a night like tonight. It’s no big deal. He’ll learn from it and move on.
Hughes was in command of the game in terms of pitch selection. He was dictating what he wanted to throw.
Cervelli isn’t at the point of his career where he can try to guide a pitcher to get away fro a bad habit. He just doesn’t have the experience or status to do that. Pitch selection with the cutters is on Hughes.
Hughes cut fastball is a good to very good pitch (it still varies in consistency even before tonight).
But so far this year it’s been coming across as an near elite pitch. But in and of itself its not that close to an elite pitch.
Independently, Hughes cutter isn’t close in quality to a guy like Halladay’s (forget Mo…) Hughes cutter isn’t even that closet to being as good as Lester or Danks.
What’s made Hughes cutter so devastating is his four seam fastball – which has truly been a great pitch. Hughes cutter is very dependent on that four seam fastball. Independently he can’t use that cut fastball like Mo can to throw it in locations where the pitch is virtually unhitable and can only be pulled foul if contact is made.
It’s just something he’ll need to learn from.
Jerkface, I know – that’s what I said before. Oh well, what can you do? I’m sure he’s going to be very disappointed, but Eiland knows him like the back of his hand. They will work together to “fix” things by the next start.
why is logan in the game??
CHOKE
Yuck
Logan is terrible.
Should’ve kept Hughes in.
Betsy,
Phil is in line for the win and that’s the bottom line. Of course Logan is not helping the situation.
way to go, Boone. Girardi. Come on.
Joe Girardi is a good manager.
is it ok to boo now?
Grrrrrrrrr!
Logan his predictable self.
Get him out now. He’s awful.
A complete waste of a roster spot.
omg – can’t this game just end
If there is one thing I have very little patience for, its relievers coming in throwing ball after ball….best way to lose a game.
and as I type this Logan falls behind and grooves a 3-1 fastball and its suddenly 7-6. Terrible.
It would have been great to have Posada catching tonight.
Don’t be so quick to push Posada to DH.
Wait, Victor Martinez is hitting almost .400 right-handed? Might as well have left Hughes in for one more batter.
Get Park in, Logan stinks, glad Cashman got him in the Vasquez deal, nice deal all around.
Oh, man. You know, I’m not usually hard on these guys, but, Logan hasn’t been doing anything good. That was awful.
Why would anyone bring in Logan and let V Mart bat righty
Once again why am I not surprised..Get this guy out of the game. He falls behind and throws a meatball. Girardi of course falls in love with a guy who throws hard and can’t find the plate. Absolutely pathetic.
this logan sucks
Get Logan out. He has nothing.
COME ON. Get Logan OUT
Logan is a waste of a spoton the roster. Ball after ball and then have to groove one.
A 3-1 HR and then an 0-2 hit? Logan is really awful.
I cannot believe they’re blowing a 5-0 lead. Pitiful.
Please DFA Logan. Please
jeeze. You’d think we were up 16-2 in the 7th. Logan? Really?
Then maybe Eiland needs to insist to Phil that he not throw the cutter that much and use his curve; what’s the point in becoming a 2 pitch pitcher when they tried to get him away from that (especially if the cutter isn’t that special)?
If you can’t throw strikes you can’t be in the bullpen, Logan needs to be sent down, bring up Melancon at least he throws some strikes. The best bullpens in baseball are littered with strike throwing machines.
We need more runs!
thank god beltre sucks worse than boo-ne
Bye Bye Boone. Back to Scranton for you. Can’t give Joe the temptation to use you anymore. Even if Beltre just helped you out.
Why is he still in Joe? Is Joe getting in the way again?
We will be chasing a few runs in no time.
Girardi really is screwing up this pen this year
Enough with Scranton’s pitching staff on this team. There is a reason Logan has been released/traded a couple of times.
i can’t stand giradri, i have no faith in him
Logan shouldn’t be on this team but if he’s here he should only be used in a mop-up role. I think Girardi must have forgotten that the Sox scored 5 runs.
I didn’t understand why Nova was sent down instead of Logan………….not that Nova would have fared better, but Logan stinks.
Logan, Yankees gave up Coke for this louse?
maybe we can give logan back to the braves for a bag of balls.
At least he only gave up 1 run. 9 more outs.
Who should Joe have brought in instead of Logan? Not Park……..
whew. that being said…LOGAN? Come on. haha
Why is Logan here? He was originally called up when Park got DLed. Park is healthy now so send him back down.
gonna need a few dozen more runs this inning… especially if logan is pitching again…
I’m amazed Logan got out of that inning so quickly. Will be interesting to see if the Sox keep Wakefield in with Gardner leading off.
Who should Joe have brought in instead of Logan? Not Park……..
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Yes Park. Martinez crushes left-handed pitching this year.
Who should Joe have brought in instead of Logan? Not Park……..
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Yes Park. Martinez crushes left-handed pitching this year.
Logan was lights out in Spring Training and was decent when he first came up. He’s hit a snag here lately.
Yankees did not give up Coke for Logan, he was part of the Vasquez trade with Atlanta.
Time for the offense to wake up. It’s obvious they aren’t winning this game with only a 1 run lead.
For those who wanted Phil to come back out, no way. He’d thrown 104 very hard pitches……..he had nothing and he barely got out of the 5th.
Oops sorry, double post.
This was not a step back from Hughes tonight.
He was going to have a bad game eventually.
If anything, the way he got beat tonight will help him in the future.
Tonight was a very good learning experience for Mr Hughes.
So let me get this straight…
Logan, a lefty who had walked 6 in 8.1 innings before tonight, and has backed himself in to bad counts by not being able to find the plate, was brought in to face a guy who was hitting about .400 from the right side.
I don’t like to make a habit of questioning Girardi, but no. That was flat out TERRIBLE managing.
Blowout inning for the Yankees coming up.
Patrick, I was just thinking in terms of it being early in the game – I doubt he could go more than one inning. The pen just isn’t very good right now and when the starters don’t give innings, we see what happens.
Nova is a starting pitcher, not a relief pitcher. He belongs starting in Scranton every five days to continue to develop.
Time to give Royce Ring a shot. We have seen enough of Logan.
“Then maybe Eiland needs to insist to Phil that he not throw the cutter that much and use his curve; ”
Hughes isn’t going to throw his curve ball much to LH hitters right now. Left handers have given him problems before and that’s because he was largely a fastball-curveball pitcher.
He’s not going to throw his curve ball as an out pitcher to LH hitters unless it continues to develop.
He needed a change up and a better two seam fastball tonight. But his two seamer doesn’t have great sink and his change is a tool he’s not ready to use in game situations.
Logan is obviously Girardi’s go to guy. Then he pitches Marte once every 2 weeks and wonders why he struggles.
Pitt
Sorry about the Pens!
Too early for Joba
Robertson is probably unavailable
Park will probably pitch later
Aceves is hurt
Mitre is unavailable
Marte stinks
Logan stinks
^^^ not many options for Girardi
Need to get some guys on base against Wakefield and run, run , run…..
LGY, I’m not sure if you read my other posts, but………..are you “concerned” that Phil is now almost a 2 pitch pitcher again and is becoming stubborn about his cutter? Eiland said in ST that it was (in previous years) like pulling teeth to get Phil to throw a change; is it possible that he just really doesn’t believe he needs it ? That he loves his FB so much that he’s not that interested in throwing his other pitches?
That was a whole lot of run prevention in that AB.
Can anyone tell me, what pitcher we got after pitching for the Braves, other than Mike Stanton, that ever pitched well for the Yankees? GB7, CB, SJ?
Hammond-Wright-Farnsworth-now Logan!!!!
Lazy journalism at its finest.
Michael Kay mentioning John Flaherty retiring due to not being able to catch Tim’s knuckleball…
For the 100th time!
Really nice at bat for Pena.
Logan always falls behind every batter. That Vmart at bat was a perfect example of what happens when you fall behind. Vmart was 0 for his last 19 but of course anyone can hit a meatball. Logan needs to go back to AAA.
Pena should be running with Wake and Victor behind the mound.
You forgot Denny Naegle on that list.
Pena should be stealing here
Pena should steal.
steal Pena!
It’s not a step back for Hughes at all.
It’s a learning experience. Big difference.
If Posada was catching tonight, he guides him through this start.
Cervelli’s inexperience hurt tonight.
Learning experience for both.
Can we have Aaron Boone pinch hit?
What did you want to Girardi to do?
That is what happens when your starter goes 5 innings and you have 4 innings to preserve a 2-run lead.
Robertson is probably unavailable. Marte is being saved for later. Park will probably pitch the 7th (and didn’t want to use him 2 innings in his first start back). Joba is restricted to 1 inning.
The bullpen is a mess right now. Actually, it is going to be a mess if we don’t get innings from the starters. More innings from the starters = less innings for the underbelly of the pen.
And Mark Woehlers.
Park’s gotta go 2 innings, can’t trust Logan.
SJ,
I have to agree with you on Logan
“I don’t like to make a habit of questioning Girardi, but no. That was flat out TERRIBLE managing.”
Girardi wanted to match up on Ortiz and Hermida that inning so he wanted a LH hitter. But he didn’t want to use two pitchers that inning to get two innings.
As such, in order to play the LH-LH match up he was willing to risk logan the LH to pitch to Martinez from his strong side.
That’s a great deal of belief in the value of match up baseball because the logan-martinez match up was a poor risk for the yanks.
And they paid for trying to leverage those match ups.
And on top of that Ortiz got a hit as well.
Betsy,
CHOP could go 2 innings tonight I bet. Logan stinks, as we saw, and the matchups don’t support bringing him in at that point.
SJ44,
Unless you are developing him as trade bait, which is a legit possibility, I don’t see why Nova is better off in AAA. If he’s going to help the Yankees he’s either going to be a reliever or traded.
Can someone explain why the Yankees never run on Martinez?
We should know by now that Girardi gives his relievers a long leash at the beginning of the year. By July/August he’ll figure out who to trust. I guess we can appreciate this strategy come October, but it sure is frustrating this early in the season.
time to call up royce ring, melacon or someone else?
CB, then that’s a puzzler. If his cutter isn’t that great by itself, he can’t use it when his FB is not on top of it’s game. If he can’t use his curve against lefties, then he very much needs a change. I don’t get why he used to be a GB pitcher in the minors and not now; I see no reason why he couldn’t get back to that.
By the way, all my questions are just questions….I’m not worried, just maybe slightly concerned.
SJ, ok – I agree with that. Ring it is……..holy cow, Logan is awful.
Someone explain why he didn’t steal?
Have they attempted a stolen base tonight?
This is unbelievable.
Knuckleballer on the mound.
And we still are not stealing.
Not putting pressure on their defense.
Pena should have been on second by now, Yankees need more runs push the issue.
Why is Cervelli responsible for Hughes shaking him off? Why isn’t Phil held responsible for the pitch HE WANTED TO THROW!?
It is utterly absurd to blame Cervelli for those cutters. At the very least, they share the blame.
It would have been perfect to bring in Park with a 2 run lead. Now that it’s just 1 run, Park would be risky. That’s on Girardi though.
Why did he wait until 1 out to steal?
BG thinks hes a power hitter now
Hopefully we get a WP here
That fly ball should of been a run.
I don’t have a problem with Girardi bringing in a lefty to face that portion of the lineup…I have a problem with Logan falling behind and not executing pitches.
Patrick, I’m not sure about that……..and we don’t know how effective he’d be anyway. Look, I don’t want to see Logan out there either………I guess Park really was the only option.
I hope Posada sits with Cervelli……I’m sure he will.
Farnsworth, Wright and Hammond were FAs. As was Phil Niekro.
Let’s go Mark. You should have had a 2 run homer earlier in the game.
Just get one now!
Well that was entertaining! Nice catch guys….
great no runs
ick -seriously?
Patrick, I always believe the pitcher has control of the situation, so I sort of agree. Phil has no problem shaking pitches off, but tonight he didn’t have much confidence and I think he trusted his catcher to help him.
how is it – they couldn’t get much of a hit on a 40+ yr old guy who throws 60 mph?
Pena Finally gets on base, and 3 easy out thereafter. Where did the bats go?
Patrick May 17th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Why is Cervelli responsible for Hughes shaking him off? Why isn?t Phil held responsible for the pitch HE WANTED TO THROW!?
It is utterly absurd to blame Cervelli for those cutters. At the very least, they share the blame.
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Along those lines, when Joba throws a bad pitch (overdependence) it’s his fault for shaking off the catcher (if I remember all the complaining/analysis correctly), why does that not hold true for Hughes who is more experienced than Cervelli.
if Hughes and Cervellie share the blame, that should always hold true, right?
Catchers run the game Patrick. Especially with young pitchers and especially after you already got burned with the cutter.
Nova has started all year. He’s not a bullpen answer.
You develop him in AAA for trade or back of the rotation purposes.
If they need a pen arm from Scranton, Ring or Melancon will do.
It’s kind of scary that it’s the 7th inning of a close game, and I have absolutely no clue who our pitcher is
Let’s go Park!
“don’t get why he used to be a GB pitcher in the minors and not now; I see no reason why he couldn’t get back to that.”
Better hitters here in the majors?
Scott Lewis, a lefty was just released, and after being sent down to AAA, was pitching well.
http://www.baseball-reference......sc02.shtml
SJ44- Doesn’t Eiland have to share some of the blame in the pitch sequence that inning when the batters were working the counts on Hughes?
This is ridiculous. We all know Youkilis is fine.
Where was pitch 2??????????????
I really hate these nail biters against the red sox. I know I shouldn’t care as much as I do because its may- and yet I can’t help but feel nerves.
Cheated on pitch 2, pitch 3 winds up in left field.
It should of been 1-1. Come one Park!!!
Neagle came from Cincinnati…not Atlanta
This team needs a bat and a reliever. Stat
This Michael Kay could not care less about the game. It’s all about Michael Kay. It’s the Michael kay Show. Yankees baseball on YES starring Michael Kay.
Neagle pitched on the Braves at some point prior to pitching with us.
Melancon is overrated. A 4-A player.
Eiland has told Hughes over and over not to fall in love with the cutter. Nothing else he can do. He isn’t calling the game.
It’s on Hughes and Cervelli.
Tough to ask a guy who hasn’t pitched in over a month to be perfect.
Injuries and ineffectiveness kills bullpens.
I hope Phil, Cervelli, Eiland and Girardi learn from this, and I hope Phil still gets the win while they do.
where was that?
WHERE WAS THAT PITCH???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Trevor, maybe he should develop his 2 seamer? Phil picks things up quickly – I’m sure he could do it.
that has to be a strike, cmon
Has the umpire’s strike zone been this atrocious all night?
why does this game drag on when the bullpens come in?
THIS GAME IS TOO ******* LONG!!!!
Good job ChoP! Good job throwing another strike instead of walking him.
If they win this game, it will almost be like a small miracle, lol
” Independently he can’t use that cut fastball like Mo can to throw it in locations where the pitch is virtually unhitable and can only be pulled foul if contact is made.”
CB-
the first time i came across the cutter was when rick petersen, then a soft tossing lefty who had given up three monstrous home runs to dave kingman a week earlier, faced kingman’s team again and told me to meet him 15 minutes early to warm him up for the game because he was going to work on a new pitch.
ricky said he couldn’t see how much it was breaking, so he showed me how much break he was looking for. i would say too much or too little. once he got it just right, he came in and said that’s called a cutter.
kingman and the whole opposing team’s right handed hitters in the previous game were covering the outside looking for ricky’s fastball ,breaking ball, and change outside. they scored at least 8 runs off of him including kingman’s moonshots.
he went out with the cutter and shut out kingman’s team and shut down kingman with the cutter. the key was they were looking outside and the cutter looked like it was a hittable pitch , but by the time they swung it was in on their hands.
so like you say, hughes needs hitters looking outside for the fastball ( or other pitch)to make the cutter effective off the plate inside.
the cutter for hughes can’t exist as a pitch by itself. hughes needs to have the hitters looking outside fastball first.
They scored 7 runs in 6 innings tonight.
That’s enough runs.
If they lose, it’s on the pitching staff and not the offense.
complete game would be great from cc tomorrow
This team really needs Park to be good.
Double play would be real nice here.
Betsy,
You aren’t kidding. I’m trying to stay positive, but it’s hard when this just feels like the wheels are getting ready to fall off.
It’s on Hughes and Cervelli.
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THANK YOU! Finally you acknowledge that the poor outing wasn’t all Cervelli’s fault.
I realize that the catcher calls the game but Hughes throws what he wants. He shook Cervelli off a lot tonight. The bad cutters are on both guys.
wow Cano!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beautiful DP.
Unbelievable turn right there.
Sweeeeet DP
Nice play by Robbie.
CC spitting sunflower seeds on AJ’s sweatshirt, very nice.
You can’t trust that guy at all.
“# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 17th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Trevor, maybe he should develop his 2 seamer? Phil picks things up quickly – I’m sure he could do it.”
Didn’t he ditch the 2 seam for the cutter?
Good job Robbie!
Slick play by Cano
Wow great play by Cano! Yankees might have gotten a break though.
Clutch job by Chan Ho.
I do think Pedroia was out….
Thanks blake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cano=gold glove
CHOP!!!!! welcome back!!!!!
Well, that’ll go a long way to helping me feel better about this.
Great job by Cano and Park.
Not pitching for a month and throwing a zero up there is big.
I have him start the 8th.
who pitches the 8th?
Cano gets my vote for GG 2nd base. In fact the entire starting infield gets my vote.
Park 8 strikes 6 balls, at one point it was 50/50. sheesh..
The DP was great but the look on Pedroyers’s face was priceless.
Donnie, I don’t feel THAT bad, lol. It’s just a game – I’m really not all that hot and bothered about it…….
Damon
With a fair umpire, Park’s line is more like 10 strikes 4 balls.
Pretty good outing. Pounding the strike zone.
Don’t trust Joba at all in the 8th
Leave CHOP in
Yanks really need to get a couple off Wakefield here
Ugh catch the ball…
Betsy,
I am not worried about Phil.
You have said it yourself that he is still a kid and is going to show it at times. Also, you have cited a bunch of times that Cashman said Phil is not a finished product.
If he was confident in his changeup tonight that would have been a big help. That will come though.
But, to a large degree his biggest problem tonight was not his lack of confidence in his changeup, but that he fell in love with his cutter.
He didn’t need a changeup in the Ortiz at bat in particular. He just needed to throw his 4 seamer.
If Posada is catching tonight, like SJ said, he gets him through this start. Unfortunately he wasn’t, but Phil will learn from this and in the future he won’t need someone with Posada’s experience on a night like this.
Pelfrey – 7.2 IP, 2 ER tonight
That Saturday game is not looking as easy anymore…
Park hasn’t pitched up here in a month. I don’t know if you can ask him to go two.
randy – thanks for the rick peterson/cutter story. I learned something there.
Trevor, I’m not sure Phil ditched any pitch for the cutter; I think he was sort of fooling around with the cutter last spring.
I do believe this is a learning experience for Phil – it has to be; if it’s not, then Phil is not the pitcher I think he is.
nick,
too true. he looked like he was going to cry
now we know what it looks like when elves cry.
arod – what was that?
Pete tweeted that the REd Sox could put up a crooked number on Chop as he’s a NL pitcher coming off the DL…. Nice Job Chan Ho….. I think he’s gonna be a valuable member of the pen.
This lineup can’t hit Wakefield
CC spitting sunflower seeds on AJ’s sweatshirt, very nice.
You can’t trust that guy at all.
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Racist comments like this are tearing this board apart.
Takes patience to hit a knuckler
kd: someday Joe Buck is going to cite your post to teach McCarver what the plural of ‘elf’ is.
Scoring 5 runs in the first doesn’t exempt you from being shut out the rest of the game
Wakefield is mowing this lineup down. Guess they think a 1 run lead is enough with Joba on the mound.
why is it so hard to hit someone who throws 60 mph?
No games in the majors are easy, and Pelfrey’s a good pitcher………who thought that was going to be a piece of cake?
LGY, that’s very true. I honestly don’t care about the bad game, I really don’t. What I’m “concerned” about (only slightly, though) is the fact that Phil has fallen too in love with his FB and cutter and has become a 2 pitch pitcher. I don’t know if that’s a product of youthful infatuation with a new pitch or what, but he really shouldn’t abandon what got him here. That said, without his best stuff, he got through a few innings before it caught up to him. The test will be next week – can he bounce back from this outing?
Let’s take this baby to the 8th. You are watching YES, the home of Michael Kay, and oh by the way, the New York Yankees.
They are not even trying against Wakefield. They didn’t attempt to steal in the last inning, nothing. Just bad ABs one after another.
Just like it always does. Down to a bullpen battle. Don’t let anyone tell u that pens mean nothing and anyone can do it
6 outs please!
1-2-3 8th will be huge that would let Mo face the free swinging bottom of the Soxs lineup for the 9th.
back to back Joba after yesterday?
nick,
that was the stupidest thing i’ve heard in a long time. he’s a total waste of airtime.
any guesses on the final score? my guess, 10-7 yankees win
Kay lacks professionalism. He thinks every game is a promotion for himself.
But at least he doesn’t disrespect the other team like Orsillo.
Is jerkface for real? Are you retarted or just stupid?
Jerkface May 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Scoring 5 runs in the first doesn’t exempt you from being shut out the rest of the game
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7 runs should be enough to win a game.
BloggingBombers Agreed. Maybe Joba, too. RT @Richjn11 Girardi’s silence about the pen tonight means no Mo tonight I bet. What do you think?
im thinking park for the 8th and joba on the 9th.
# sunny615 May 17th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
why is it so hard to hit someone who throws 60 mph?
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Major league batters are used to seeing much faster pitches, and it’s very hard to keep that bat back and wait for that slower pitch to come in. So they often end up in front on the pitch. Add in the movement when the knuckler is working really well, and it makes it even harder to hit.
Wakefield is shutting down the Yankees, are you kidding me? Park better fall out of love with balls, real quick.
I see PFOF is taking some licks tonight.
Fair weather PFOF’s? What’s up with that?
why is it so hard to hit someone who throws 60 mph?
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because the knuckleball has so much movement, and the batters timing is off after dealing with 92-93 mph pitches.
Just because they aren’t executing does not mean they aren’t trying…big difference. It’s sort of hard to hit a knuckleball.
Chopper looks (understandably) rusty, and Marte is in the pen.
This is not going to be fun, is it?
10-7 would be fine, 8-6 would be fine, I’ll even take 7-6. Looks like a grinder, though.
7 runs should be enough to win a game.
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When the other team scores 6 you need to keep scoring. They had 6 runs by the 2nd. 5 innings they scored 1 extra.
Scoring 7 runs on the face of things is awesome, but just like pitchers ‘pitch to the score’ hitters should be hitting to it
Here we go with 2 strike lumberjack
Is Joba unavailable as well? How many guys tonight cannot play?
This is going to end badly.
Oh god. Marte
Can anybody find a stat for leadoff men reaching base?
mo is stretching. looks like joba is the one unavailable…
Michael Kay was so much better when he was younger and did the play by play on ABC. Sadly, he’s let his ego take hold of him. I guess its part of the business. I hate to say it but give me the Mets broadcast crews any day -much more of an enjoyable listen than Yes or CBS radio. I cant even listen to the radio unless im forced to in the car… Sterling is hideous on the nuts and bolts of a game. I will say this: anything is better than Remy on Nesn though !!
That wasn’t the pitch to throw…
There goes Hughes’ win…
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Now this is the choke job of the year.
And the pen chokes again.
oh stop…come on.
Yes because hitting is so easy the yankees can score when jerkface commands it.If i was you i would look at 6-7-8-9 in the lineup and be happy we put up 7 in a series.
Yankee bullpen Fail
this team rocks!
Betsy,
I also think you will get more complete answers on a lot of your questions from guys like CB, randy, SJ, Pat M when they have time to give the more technical answers
The Yankees bullpen is garbage right now. There goes Hughes’s win. I guess he didn’t really deserve it anyway…
Why the hell is Patk out there instead of Joba?
Adam Warren throws a 4 hit, 2-0 complete game shutout over 7 innings tonight. 2 walks, 0 strikeouts. Tampa sweeps a double header. Scranton won 5-4. Heredia getting knocked around again for Charleston. 5-2 Charleston losing after 5 innings after losing 14-6 in the suspended game.
Oh well. Their balls just go out for home runs.
We had 2 balls that could have been home runs, and they just did not go out.
But their guys find the right part of the ball park.
Park came off the DL too early, methinks.
You knew if Hughes didn’t go deep into the game with some guys unavailable, they would be in trouble.
Horrible job by this pitching staff.
Flush a game away with a five run lead.
Inexcusable.
unbelievable.
after the game is what I meant to say
This is like just like opening night no? I hope it ends better though.
Ballgame. Just stuck with Park for too long. There’s absolutely no reason that a guy who has had exactly one appearance since coming off the DL should’ve been given a second inning. None.
The pitching has been bad, but Girardi is just as much to blame for some of the bonehead moves he’s made this game.
not two days in a row!
when’s the last time we’ve had a come from behind win and a pieing?
gotta keep it here…
It makes zero sense to bring a guy in for both the 7th and 8th inning of a one run game against the Red Sox who has been on the DL for the past month. Really stupid move.
Another Aceves injury loss
love how this team has a pitcher dead and lets him off the hook
How many times do they Yankees get a big league against these bums and let them back in the game
this is pathetic
Making JD Drew look like an actual MLB player
yea Kay because the NL is a joke league
It dont matter when they throw hangers to us. We just pop them up.
Oh no! How dare we throw a hanger.
Jerkface May 17th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
7 runs should be enough to win a game.
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When the other team scores 6 you need to keep scoring. They had 6 runs by the 2nd. 5 innings they scored 1 extra.
Scoring 7 runs on the face of things is awesome, but just like pitchers ‘pitch to the score’ hitters should be hitting to it
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You know the Yankees play other teams that have other players that try to beat the Yankees by trying to stop them from scoring. Yankees can’t will themselves to score runs.
I saw that coming another mistake by Cervelli. too many sliders.
Girardi has a lot of explaining to do if the Yankees lose…even though I’m not sure what options he has, exactly…
This is simply terrible. 2 times we’ve flushed 5 runs leads against the RS now. terrible terrible.
Huge off season Cashman fail. Didn’t get anything right
Joe getting in the way again of a win. He does this often.
How many guys are unavailable tonight?
Where the hell is Joba?
This is a sick joke. What are the odds we score off Bard and Paplebon?
This is just ridiculous!!!!!
:sobs:
Aceves is the most underrated player on this team. How badly could we use him right about now?
goodnight all…wake me up when September ends
This is on Hughes. With the state of their pen he had to go 6 innings
uhhhh, time to pull him yet?
This has been one more frustrating game to watch.
SJ
I understand your POV that 7 runs is enough to win a game.
But we had Deuce-K on the ropes in the 1st inning, and bailed him out after that.
chase wright? Is that you?
You knew it was coming!! Phil doesn’t get #6 Yankees bats fell asleep.
This bull pen sucks, noway they can win, they come in giving up runs!
Turning this bs off.
No shake tonight.
Ok, I’ll take 10-9…. 11-9… 12-9…
C R A P
Girardi screwed this up with Logan and park.
what an awful game…
Girardi has done an AWFUL job of managing as of late!
good thinking Girardi. Let’s take him out AFTER 3 runs…
wait, hes still in? TAKE HIM OUT!!!!
is this a chan ho park rehab outing?
good place for it.
not an important game or anything.
This is all on Girardi.. This loss will be inexcusable.. Blow a 6-1 lead.. Wow stunned!
yeah agree, this is THE choke of the year.
from SP (Hughes ace my ass) to bp, pitching just sucks.
even senior citizen Andy is better than Hughes.
I thought yankees batting practice comes on at 6 and not 10pm?
HEY, HERE COMES GIRARDI!!!!
Terrible. Just awful. Up 6 nothing, and now there’s about 0% chance they win this game. Absolutely, thoroughly disgusting.
as of right now, you[re right. Cashman screwed up.
odds off bard = good
odds off paps = less than good.
RS
Agreed.
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It must be nice to hit home runs whenever you want to.
Parks stuff also diminishes after inning why. Not sure why some think he can pitch multiple innings at a time.
Every pitcher tonight getting beat by their third and fourth pitch.
Not good.
They need to find 5 bullpen arms.
Woefully short in that area.
chan ho knock it outta da park
Take the wheel away from Joe Girardi and Dave Eiland for a game. This is dangerous managing. Are they intoxicated?
Where is Joba? “Saving him” for the rainout tomorrow?
Sorry. This just sucks on so may levels.
Girardi’s obsession with nursing everybody on this team is costing big time.
crap.
Girardi – FAIL
Let’s see who which relievers you have utmost confidence in to hold a lead from the 6th inning on until you get to Rivera, with this years Yankee bullpen?
This team is atrocious. Absolutely atrocious.
one inning i meant
just horrible.
why didnt joba come in? too many pitches yesterday?
Look, that was not a good move, leaving a guy in for a second inning against a tough line-up who had not pitched in a month. On the other hand, there are not a lot of options out there. Outside of about three pitchers, the bullpen is pretty shaky at the moment.
A monkey could do girardi’s job. Oh, wait..one already is. They won those rings last year in spite of ape face.
this team has no heart and no desire to win.
I switch to NBA.
Hey, welcome to the game thread to all you new commenters.
Who exactly do we have available tonight?
We have no bench.
We have no Joba?
Mo?
D-Rob?
Vasquez????
What the hell?
We could be looking at an 87 win team here. Let’s be real. Bullpen stinks. Outfield is awful. Catcher is always hurt. And the SP won’t be this good all yr.
I’m all for initiating the “CHOP Rules”. 1 inning a night.
Joe pushed it a bit bringing him out again but it’s not like he’s loaded with great options at this point.
Who is unavailable, Joba or Mo?
This game is disgusting…..Screw this team…we have no bullpen. Got lucky last inning with the DP….this is unexcusable….Beckett is due to beat us, we have huge games all week, should have won yesterday….different team than 2009
joba is unavailable.
LGY, you’re right – game thread is not the place for it.
You guys are seriously upset with Hughes? This is his first bad game in SEVEN starts… Give it a rest! Girardi and the bullpen lost this game!
Looks like Hit Pig found her/his way out of the sty tonight.
Real fans here, its 1 game out of 162 and its not even over yet, get over it.
Do other teams get Youkolis out when he is down 0-2?
I hope VMart’s agent leaves the bullpen a tip.
You know the Yankees play other teams that have other players that try to beat the Yankees by trying to stop them from scoring. Yankees can’t will themselves to score runs.
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Am I saying they should will themselves to score runs? Yankee players need to execute. But being SATISFIED with 6 runs in 2 innings isn’t enough. Scoring six runs in 2 innings you should be looking at a huge blow out.
It doesn’t always happen, but I’m not going to pat the yankees on the back for scoring 7 runs when the Red Sox are creeping closer and closer and the yankees don’t do much to put any distance in there.
Girardi is a pathetic manager.
This game is disgusting…..Screw this team…we have no bullpen. Got lucky last inning with the DP….this is unexcusable….Beckett is due to beat us, we have huge games all week, should have won yesterday….different team than 2009
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true. last year we were under .500 at this time and not 24-13.
It’s hard to kill Phil for not giving innings when that’s all he’s been doing………….other people needed to step up and pick him up tonight and they didn’t do that.
was hoping would pitch the 6th. but that ship has sailed.
Good choice letting Logan pitch. Better letting park go 2 innings.
Boone Logan needs to go to AAA. No control, and forget the two lefty thing.
Maybe Chan Ho Park needs a game or two before you start using him for TWO INNINGS, especially when he’s getting beat around in the 7th (lucked into the DP).
Joba or Rivera is hurt…… bank on it
This situation tonight is all Girardi having Chan Ho Park out there for a second inning, I was sitting there saying why is this guy still on the mound.
Lo and behold he blew up.
I am not one to micro manage everything Girardi does, but this was disgraceful managing by him to do what he did tonight by letting Park go out there for another inning, dreadful
We have the best offense in the league and two innings, people need to be more optimistic.
What in the world is Girardi doing??? Yesterday’s game he over managed and brought Mo into the 8th inning. I guess today’s game wasn’t important to him. Park has only pitched 1 inning since coming off the DL. How can you ask him to pitch a 2nd inning??!?!?! Girardi had no problem losing this game but seemed desperate to win yesterday.
It isn’t overreacting to say that a game like tonight is the type that turns a season around for a struggling team. It’s just one game, but for a team like the Red Sox it is the kind that convinces you that you still can win even when things are bleak. Losing a game like this is beyond pathetic, BEYOND PATHETIC.
People will say that it is on the pitching, but your pitching can’t be perfect every day when your offense is a joke. Yes, they scored 5 runs early, but they didn’t tack on and let the Red Sox stay in the game by missing opportunity after opportunity. The Red Sox were getting hits at will late in the game, and the Yankees were going down 1-2-3. Who in their right mind felt like the Yankees were going to win this game when it was 7-6 and they stopped scoring? If you aren’t going to hit throughout a game, you aren’t going to win, period.
Good teams don’t give up when they are down early, and sitting on your lead thinking that the pitchers will eventually get enough outs to win the game isn’t going to get it done. When you start a lineup like Girardi ran out there with 3 automatic outs, it’s very hard to keep rallies going.
Girardi manages games like garbage and losing to Boston like this REALLY Bah-LOWS !
This is another one on our boy genius Girardi if they dont come back. Disgusting.
Joba isn’t available tonight. That’s why he wasn’t in.
37 pitches on Friday and yesterday.
That’s why your starter can’t go 5 tonight.
Once that happens, you are depending on guys to throw 4 shutout innings. It’s not going to happen.
The three run HR by Drew changed this game.
taking Joba out yesterday may cost them 2 games.
really why the f is boone logan on the team?
he sucks.. nice outing for Park.
Hughes in love with the cutter with 2 men on cost him big time. Drew and Papi Homers cutter that got to much of the plate.
BAD FRIGGIN LOSS.
Why not wait to hear why guys weren’t available before killing Girardi?
It was good of Cashman to get rid of two absolute studs in Damon and Matsui. Working out well.
Hopefully Girardi will soon relieve you can’t use Park for 2 or 3 innings. His stuff just isn’t the same as inning 1.
Betsy,
Exactly. He had ONE bad outing. The lineup picked him up but the bullpen didn’t do its job.
Nothing like a good old fashioned butt kicking in your own yard, eh!!
Joe has done a terrible job again.
Why not start the inning w/Marte?
Cant wait to see Thames-Winn-Pena in the 8th.
Girardi babies everybody way too much. Get some new players if need be.
Let the Sox hang in the race.
Park just didn’t have the stamina to throw a second inning.
This was a night when you see how valuable starting pitching is. Hughes had a huge lead tonight and couldn’t hold it because he wasn’t able to diversify how he was getting outs.
And with the injuries and pitchers unavailable a 5 inning start was going to be trouble.
At this point in time they can’t afford to carry Logan any longer. They need to bring up Melancon or even Ring and given them a shot.
Park looked good his first inning. But that second inning his stuff was much worse – he kept missing up that second inning of work.
Where was joba for the 8th????
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....38;cid=531
There’s gotta be someone at AAA who can help us in the bullpen.
Trevor, Park can pitch multiple innings, but off of one rehab stint? Asking a lot………
Phil had a bad game, get over it. He’s a kid – he’s supposed to be a horse? I don’t think so.
This what happens when you score 6 runs early and then sit back and relax threw the rest of the game.
This game is disgusting…..Screw this team…we have no bullpen. Got lucky last inning with the DP….this is unexcusable….Beckett is due to beat us, we have huge games all week, should have won yesterday….different team than 2009
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Pretty much on the money. It is a little disturbing two days in a row with this stuff. Obviously you don’t expect Mariano Rivera to be giving up grand slams but I think an argument can be made right now that The Yankees bullpen is extremely compromised. With Aceves down, and the unreliability of Park, Marte, Logan, Robertson it becomes pretty obvious that Girardi really doesn’t have much of a pen to go to.
Realize rather. I’m off tonight.
Im worried a come back win like this could get the Sox going. You absolutely CANNOT let a team back into a game after being up that big early.
I’m tired of hearing…1 game out of 162….great teams win these games, not choke….VMart hits garbage against anyone else….90% of his homeruns are against us….this is just awful
Denny-
87 wins?
Do you REALLY envision the Yankees going 63-62 the rest of the way? That would leave them 87-75….
because I sure have much higher hopes than that…its only one….very frustrating, bad, loss…(assuming they lose)
and I thought Torre was asleep at the wheel a lot…
Wow…..you can’t blow a 5 run first against the Red Sox at home…..kinda seems like they put it into cruise control……too bad Phil won’t get his 6th win. Hope they can make a comeback in the 8th and 9th.
They should have considered themselves lucky when Park didn’t give anything up in the 7th.
It’s too bad that the Yankees staked Hughes to a 5 run lead and he couldn’t hold it tonight. Every other night it with Hughes, it’s been game over. Too bad.
How long did it take the bullpen to get settled last season? it wasn’t there right away, but I don’t remember how long. And yes, Aceves is sorely missed.
people need to be honest with themmselves…when hughes left after 5 with just a 1 run lead, you knew it was gonna be tough to win…the offense scored 7 runs and thats not enough
Its not over yet !
The pen is beyond terrible
This game should have been over at 6-2 or 6-1. Hughes didn’t have his stuff, and never should have thrown cutters to Ortiz and Drew.
Boone Logan should have been sent down, and Nova should have stayed.
Chan Ho Park should have pitched an inning max. You know what Joe was doing…waiting to use Marte against Ortiz.
Dumb ass moves all around. Yes, it’s only one game of 162, and the Red Sox really do suck wind.
However, this one is all on the manager. You’ve got to know your players.
you losers are back on matsui and damon? can they pitch in the pen? otherwise, how exactly would they have helped keep boston under 9 runs?
Get rid of Logan, call up Melancon. We don’t need two lefties, let alone two crappy lefties.
Joba is unavailable tonight? Weak, IMO.
Torre would never let this happen. He’d always go for the kill
This is a game that we should have won. Girardi really messed up here. Why pitch Chan Ho when he just got back. At least get an inning out of him not 2.
Michelle. good point. This team set on its heels after getting the early lead. They thought they had it won. Terrible game.
JOBS WASNT AVAILABLE
THINK INSTEAD OF WHINING.
Dylan, exactly…………He picked a bad time to have a bad game, but people had better deal with the fact that he’s a kid and he’s going to have some of these.
They’ll probably bring up the rerun act of Albaladejo, or resign Gaudin or Ramirez, just released from the A’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Joba wasn’t available then Girardi should of pitched Robertson in the 8th and hoped for the best. You absolutely can not ask a pitcher to pitch a 2nd inning when he just came off the DL. He has pitched 1 inning in the last month. It’s just not fair to him.
yes girardi’s fail was keeping park in there for a 2nd inning right off the DL.
Some of you ‘fans’ are hilarious, this team has the second most wins in baseball despite a struggling #4 starter, a shaky bullpen, key injuries to CF, DH, and Catcher and you cry over 1 lost lead.
I am a big Aceves fan but I have my doubts that he will be the same after this disc injury.
And now we get to turn to the big bats of Thames, Winn, and Pena.
Why am I even still watching this abortion?
Girardi managed this situation with his head up his behind,
I give the guy every benefit of the doubt, but even I was sitting there stunned to see Chan Ho Park out there again, I was like are you kidding me.
Girardi has taken this whole nursing your players thing to a whole new level. He approaches it like he approaches matchups on that little chart he reads off of.
I wasn’t upset about the loss yesterday but this one tonight should they not rally, just disgusting.
The way dice K was going if we had Damon and Matsui in the lineup we’d have scored 10. But I’m sure Thames Winn NJ Granderson etc will be better
If this was any other game, it probably wouldn’t be as annoying. But it’s the BoSox! I knew the game wouldn’t be over in the first inning, even with the five run lead. It’s not in either team’s blood to call it quits that early. But it’s these kind of games that are frustrating when the offense suddenly shuts down and the opposing pitcher turns it around.
Bring Nova and Sanchez back up. Logan is garbage and should be sent down. Robertson should also be sent down to work on some stuff.
I’m sorry but Joba was a starter and he didn’t even pitch a full inning yesterday. Girardi messed up. You always bring in your top guys in the 8th and 9th no matter what. Joe needs to stop overmanaging and have a feel for the game.
Joba can’t pitch 2 days in a row according to blowhard SJ
two very frustrating games in a row for me…….still have faith they can pull this one out tonight but again a bases loaded walk, grand slam, and then blowing a five run first inning lead…..not good….I’m not too confident in the bullpen with the exception of Joba and Mo……
Even if Joba pitched 30 pitches yesterday, he should be able to pitch today (unless he is hurt). He had Saturday off and should be used to his role in the bullpen by now.
The three automatic outs up in the 8th, lower your expectations for getting on base, let alone runs.
Ive said all along the team wins despite Girardi… the guy is an average manager at best but is surrounded by the best talent so he comes out looking good. If you watch closely, you will realize he sucks.
joe from long island-
CB hit the nail on the head when he said the cutter for hughes is a pitch that works off another pitch or the hitters looking for another pitch . when they start looking for it , it loses it’s effectiveness.
after that bad ending with mo last game, losing the big lead tonight is a a rough development in this game.
middle relief is just not very reliable right now.
Now we’ll see if they have some cojones to rally back.
Red Sox have to feel good about themselves… down 5-0 on the road with Hughes pitching and they win anyway?
If anything is going to give them momentum, that will.
We haven’t really had a comeback this year- would be nice to right now.
This strange obsession with Logan is really starting to hurt the Yankees.
The only reason he is on this team is because he is a lefty. I
f he was a righty and pitching this way, there is no way he would be with the big club right now.
Need to get some arms up from AAA. Logan’s history, Park can go more than 1 inning but tough tonite after being out so long. Losing Ace was huge.
Joba unavailable after 21 pitches the night before? With a likely rainout tomorrow?
How much as Joba pitched in the past week?
What is this, Kyle Farnsworth II?
Cut Logan. For starters.
I’m tired of people like “Uke” being so optimsitc…
2 Days in a row
Yesterday maybe is excusable…Mo, a mistake, rarely happens, sucks
Today….up 6-2….nah, you win, you’re at home….you kill the Red Sox’s confidence. Haven’t seen a comeback all year. Maybe tonight? Doubt it
These last 2 losses have been brutal
And both were blown in the 8th inning.
“best offense in the league?”
I don’t think so, not even close.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Thats what a lot of you sound like
Its not over until Liza or Frank sings. Buck up people!
Yes, the Yankees had no interest in scoring more runs. Brother, some of you people – you leave me speechless.
And Thames goes up there hacking, down 2 runs.
All 3 pitches to him so far have been balls, and he swung at 2 of them.
I’ll be right back, i need to head to the supermarket and get you all tissues for a game that isnt over yet
Is Logan the one who blew the game?
I’m so torn on who to blame. It’s not Hughes. He’s only 23, and he’s been great this year.
Maybe Cervelli…bad sequences…
I know its easy to blame Girardi…but I have a feeling no matter what moves he made it wouldn’t have been pretty…it just seems messed up this year. Every day someone is not available, or injured day-to-day…or being moved around in the rotation, or being DHed, or Swisher hitting Righty vs a RHP….or something….
Every day its another problem…and I don’t know what that means.
This games over. Bard n Pap won’t blow this. They smell blood.
didn’t throw 1 strike
He didn’t swing at a single strike. pretty awful.
All 5 pitches in the AB were balls. And he struck out on 3 swings.
Wow…
Have a feeling the Sox are going to look back on this day down the line as the day their season turned around.
that Thames AB was awful. All the pitches were way out of the zone…
Bruney’s available but first he’s gotta pick up Hal’s dry cleaning bill.
Face it. This team isn’t that good. Tampa may run n hide
The Yankees are in danger of losing their third game this year in which they were leading after six innings. They only had 3 such losses ALL of last year.
This bullpen needs to turn things around for this to be an elite team. They can still win 92-93 games with what they have now. To get close to the 98-100 mark, they need guys to step up.
I don’t normally complain but I will when somebody makes a stupid mistake. Girardi needs to get a feel for the game and stop acting like Larussa.
You go to your best guy no matter what. Chan Ho just got of the DL so why pitch him for 2 innings ? It makes no sense at all !
Randy, isn’t that the case with all pitches (that is, if hitters are looking for them, they lose their effectiveness)?
It doesn’t sound like the cutter is as good as Phil thinks it is…………..
Nights like this, I wonder why I even bother watching sports. What good comes out of it? Only heartbreak.
Sports ruin lives.
And in the middle of the Michael Kay Show, Pena is being pinch hit for with Miranda.
The Yankees had a chance to really squash the Red Sox’s chances tonight. Certainly this will give them confidence. Im dissapointed the team seemed to let down after getting the early lead. Yankees should know better than that. Girardi’s job is to keep the team grinding. He failed.
Betsy,
I agree. He obviously didn’t have his best stuff today, but he still put the Yankees in a position to win the game. The Red Sox wouldn’t give in offensively and they made Hughes work. He is still a young pitcher. Its ridiculous for people to expect him to pitch like Roy Halladay every 5 games. Even CC and Burnett have bad outing every once in awhile.
I’m tired of people like BR thinking that the yankees are playing AA teams and should go 162-0, wow the yankees lost 2 in a row late in the game, its the end of the world and we’re all going to die.
“# LGY May 17th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
This strange obsession with Logan is really starting to hurt the Yankees.
The only reason he is on this team is because he is a lefty. I
f he was a righty and pitching this way, there is no way he would be with the big club right now.”
They likely love his stuff. Similar to Vares.
I hope Cashman never fields a team again, where some players can’t hit, and some are lousy at bats too.
loone gave up a gopher ball and he cannot throw strikes beisdes that he is great….
stop looking at the damn gun morons………
Doesn’t matter if Joba isn’t available. This is Park’s first appearance off the DL, and he threw only 2 rehab outings of an inning before this.
You cannot expect him to have the stamina yet to go deep into this game. After he gave up the home run to Youkilis, his pitch count was a bit elevated and you had to figure out another way to get it done. Instead he allowed him to stay in and give up what was probably the blow that ended this game .
If guys aren’t available out of the pen because you had them throw 30 pitches yesterday, then you need to call more guys up to pitch. They have a 20 man roster every night with all the injuries and unavailables…
This guy Bard has not thrown a single strike this entire appearance, and yet we were up there hacking.
Hit Girl, you can go crawl back under your rock, biatch !
I continue to believe this is a very good team. But they have so many injuries at this point it’s hard to remember what the team was like when everyone was healthy. The pen is a real problem at this point; not too many reliable arms out there.
Great now we are reduced to keeping our fingers crossed Tampa loses.
So much for the ‘awful’ Sox offense, eh?
This is going to be a 3-team race and as long as our bullpen sucks, we’re going to lose games.
5-0 lead and we blow the game. Unbelievable. Worst loss since the Scutero game in 2007.
Pena being in the lineup hurts us here
Ace
This team is good. And tampa is playing against a lot of weak teams so they will eventually come down to earth. Also the Yankees are only 2 games back. So if the Yankees stink then the Sox must be the worse team on earth. Please get a clue !
Winn is worthless and needs to go. With Johnson being as fragile as he is Cashman needed a better back up plan.
Come on Jete
Let’s go Derek!
So you still don’t want Damon or Matsui after watching Thames and Winn???
just a bad game… yuck.
“Nights like this, I wonder why I even bother watching sports. What good comes out of it? Only heartbreak.”
That’s overreacting. This is just one regular season game in which half of our players are injured or unavailable.
“Sports ruin lives.”
I can get on board with that!!
This should be a much bigger rally. Bard is throwing nothing but balls. But Thames just couldn’t lay off.
Who cares about Tampa? They are going to run and hide. Their bullpen knows how to get people out.
Let’s worry about this win sending Boston on a hot streak. CC hasn’t exactly been good lately.
Blowing a 5-0 lead is torture. At home, no less. I was wrong when I thought being home would help us.
Regardless of if Jeter does something here, good job by Miranda walking, we still have some great hitters in the 9th if Jeter gets out
“love how this team has a pitcher dead and lets him off the hook”
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They scored another 2 runs off of Daisuke in the following 3 2/3 innings.
God forbid a pitcher rebounds after a miserable 1st inning and ONLY gives up 2 more runs for a total of 7.
It’s laughable that anybody would suggest this loss is on the offense in any way.
I guess things must be crazy at the lohud tohight…
Dylan
Every pitcher has a bad outing even Roy Halladay. Some of these posters need to grow up.
Jeremy, is the pen good?the OF good? Bench?
Cashman’s mistakes are starting to cost us, we have no DH, our 4th starter can’t even get a turn in the rotation he’s been so bad, Boone as a 2nd lefty stinks and wouldn’t have been needed in the Vasquez deal had Cashman not thrown Coke who’s pitching well into the AJax/Granderson deal, this team is thin, very thin right now.
Dylan, exactly.
Now, whether or not this turns the Sox season around is yet to be determined, but that seems to be hyperbole. Forget them, though – the Yankees have real issues to deal with. Their offense shut down after the first couple of innings – but, there’s nothing you can do about that. They either live up to the backs of the baseball cards or they don’t make the playoffs. The pen is an utter mess. They need Javy, badly. Phil out of all the starters is going to have games like this – or just games where he pitches ok and can’t give them length. He must not be held up to the same standards as CC and co – he just can’t be. They really need Javy.
Jeter will now hit a weak force out as usual. End of the 8th.
If I’m the owner I leave the last week or so alone. The team is still 24-14 after tonight. Lots of injuries. Still a better start than last year.
The manager and the general manager have to step it up, however. This is what separates the men from the boys. Can anyone really do it with $200 million? Time to find out.
Agreed. You should be able to win games in which you score 7 runs.
Jeter swings at Ball 4, my biggest Peeve
what a cesspool this place has become
nite
Pat M, it will be quieter after the game ends, but now it’s just pretty bad.
Wakefield won this game.
No chance this inn. with the hitters do up. Park should have ( as ESPN guys said ) been held to one inn. After that it’s a crap shoot tonight. Can’t go with Logan much longer, he was lucky tonight. Always walks someone. Miranda CANNOT be counted on to DH, PH, or anything. Winn is a decent player without power.
Go get Berkman and give him a shot at DH. And replace at least one reliever.
chased
Jeter has lost it.
damn it.
good swing jeter – maybe use your golf club next time. blarghhhh!!!
Great swing, Cap. Just great. Maybe next time you can swing at a pitch that ISN’T a foot low, out of the zone.
Let’s take this Michael Kay Show to the 9th!
that was ball 4!
I love how everyone is crowning the Rays the best team ever. Hey it’s only May last year the Sox were the best thing on the planet and look what happened to them.
The only thing that sux worse than the Yankees tonight, is, as always, Hit Girl….Good Night, All !
Cashman has killed this season. If signing Thames was his best move we are dead.
Francona went with Wakefield early perhaps Joe shpuld have started the 6th w/ Vazquez??
People attack Joba when he goes crazy, but this fool Bard who’s nothing more than a propped up prospect solely because of Pedro Gammons, will get away with it. Sad
I wonder has anyone here ever swung at a 100 mph fastball? Not much reaction time…
Pretty disappointing game so far.
Who gives up a 3-run HR to a loser like Nancy Drew
Where the hell was the curve ball in the dirt she would have whiffed at that pitch every time
Disgusting the way this team blows leads to an inferior team
nothing like blowing a 5 run lead (twice) to put a lot of people in a foul mood already dismissing the season.
Jeter is killing us batting leadoff.
Cashman did a poor job in the offsaeson and it all started w/ signing Johnson.
He is better when he spends money and not making “baseball” deals.
Wow, Bard was throwing nothing but ball after ball and was helped out up and down that inning. Nice response.
Wow the things frustrated Yankees fans say… In the last 2 days I have heard that Jeter has lost it, the Yankees should get rid of Mo, and Miranda is a better 1st baseman than Tex! Unbelievable…
Yeah… blowing 2 different 5 run leads to your biggest rival AT HOME coming off a brutal game yesterday…. everyone should be in a great mood, right?
Y couldn’t vazquez pitch the 6-7?
I’m generally pretty thick skinned when it comes to the BS in here but I’ll admit it’s been hard to handle over the last half hour or so.
Like I said earlier today, Sox games always brings out the scum.
Why is Javy even warming up?
Nomah is really a waste to (n)ESPN. The guy has nothing useful to say. Another waste of space.
You know this place use to be nice but now it’s filled with idiots, trolls, and bandwagon fans. A lot of the good posters have left and it’s a shame.
lovely…
nesn announcers said early in game that francona dropped him in the order because he was putting out so much energy preparing for catching and trying to fix his throwing woes that he wasn’t hitting well. so he was dropped in the order.
i didn’t watch much of the game , but i see 14 men on base in the box score and one stolen base attempt.
that’s not exactly putting the pressure on a catcher whose throwing problems have carried over into his hitting.
maybe if martinez were kept busy worrying about runners stealing on him he wouldn’t have been feeling so good about himself at bat.
no way of knowing what would have happened, but i think the yankees should run as much as possible against martinez and just simply wear him out.
Now Vazquez and throwing for what??? To get his work in??
The bullpen is now shot for tomorrow what if you need the bum tomorrow
This is god awful is Girardi drunk
Cashman is great at signing guys like CC. Not so good at anything else. I’d love to see him with say the Nationals.
Stop knocking Jeter !!! My God !!!
because tex and arod are going to tie this game up and we’re going into extra innings…
You people need to get a grip. The games’ not over yet and even if it was, so what?
What championship ring does the winner tonight get?
Just another game folks. Yes, even if it is against the RS. Four months from now, none of you would remember or care about this game.
One thing is abundantly clear – this group is a far cry from the 09 Yankees.
This team has a glass jaw. They get hit, they stay down. Rather than tack on runs when their starter struggles, they timidly go up to bat with no plan. And after their pen blows a lead, they just go down quietly into the 9th.
We’ve had 5 walkoff wins this time last year and numerous other games where we ralled in the 8th. And remember those 2 Tampa games we rallied from 3+ down in the 8th both nights?
This team isin’t special. We knew last year’s team was. This team just hacks at everything, stares at good pitches, swings at balls. No clue whatsoever at the plate.
Here’s the problem, girardi over manages. You can only control a game so much. Let the 300 million dollar all stars do the rest and stop counting on no names like Miranda an chan ho park to win u games. A hurt swisher is better then a guy with 9 career at bats. I can understand that you wanna give them a chance….but in the end ur losing games
So Jeremy ‘good posters’ only come here during wins?
Jeremy is RIGHT !
hi marte. this is the strike zone. Strike zone… this is Marte.
Bronx Jeers, the hardest part was seeing the PFOFs questioned.
Guy like Bryan calling Phil a loser for giving up a homerun to a hitter that is hot shows what kind of fool he is. No one is perfect and if you like to talk so much trash then shut up and go out there and play the game since you know so much.
This. Is. A. Joke. People complain about the OF, 2 out of 3 of the regular OF’ers are hurt, seriously shut the hell up and stop crying for everyones sake.games get lost, it happens.
Don’t compare this team to the 2009 team. NOT EVEN CLOSE
They are really gonna try and put Javy in this game.
Yeah cause I’m sure Cashman was planning on half of the team getting injured during the first month of the season.
Let’s enjoy last year’s championship. That was a special team. This year is just fools gold. Now that the starters are coming back down to earth, it is clear what kind of team we are – not as good as last year.
Marte. Yuck.
Girardi the genius is going to blow out Marte’s arm. Absoltuely unreal that they didn’t have Sanchez or someone in the bullpen to pitch today. The way they are using Vazquez out of the bullpen is so unfair to him.
Ace heres the rub on Cashman: he’s great when he can present a blank check to a free agent. When he has to think, he’s gets himself into trouble.
We have some re-tooling to do this off-season, Sox are not the only ones.
I’m not missing NJ. And while I understand why Damon wasn’t resigned he was the type of guy to get the spark going in the late innings…those are the type of guys we need right now and NJ definitely isn’t that guy and by him being on the team we didn’t get a guy who could do that
Something I notice so far, this season the Yankees don’t have that 9th inning magic, now it’s early but it’s clear as day.
Marte has had literally 4 good games as a Yankee. All vs the Phillies.
what in hell is going on. Vazquez for ONE batter?
Have to agree with randy l…..don’t understand why the Yanks down run on Red Sox catchers, whether it be Vmart or Tek. Rays ran all over the place the last time they played the Sox. Why weren’t we trying to steal more?
Anyway, regardless of the outcome of tonight’s game, CC needs to give them length tomorrow because the pen is a bit short, to say the least.
Vasquez??????
Does Vazquez coming in mean he won’t pitch Friday?
Jeremy, anyone calling Phil a loser (or anyone on the team) is pathetic………
What were all these people posting now doing when the Yankees were winning?
Ace
No ! guys like you who make stupid remarks have ruined this blog. Posters with knowledge use to be here all the time. Not anymore which is a shame
Jeter, I think they just showed is hitting .360 at home ! What do some of you want .600 ?
I must say, this was pretty impressive by the Sox. They go down 5-0 in the first inning with their worst pitcher on the mound. And they come back to win and do so by knocking around one of the best pitchers in the ;league so far in Hughes.
Character win for them.
normally i give girardi the benefit of the doubt…but this is kinda bizarre
Wow. I am out
Good night Yankee people!
(Those few of you who aren’t insane right now)
How great would Aceves been today? Or Granderson? Posada? Or Swish? Man F these injuries.
Actually I called Nancy Drew a loser nice try though
Go back to the 1st grade and learn to read
Ha wait here comes Vazquez
What a waste, c’mon all knowing Jeremy tell me how bringing in Vazquez into the game now is the smart thing to do
If you where going to use Vazquez it was to SAVE the bullpen now not only did Girardi kill the bullpen he has blown his long reliever for the week in a game that is already over
Does this knock Javy out of Friday’s start?
Cashman shouldn’t think so hard. The moves were easy. Put Gardner in CF. Resign Damon to DH. Sign Holliday.
100% not right to bring Vazquez into this spot. I hope he gets Youk the animal out otherwise I would feel bad for him because it NEVER should of got to this. if people in the bullpen weren’t available to pitch then they should of brought up another AAA guy. You can’t play this short on pitching.
Trevor, wouldn’t this be his throw day? Nonetheless, this is pretty embarrassing for Javy………poor guy.
Javy coming in.
From the pen.
Against Boston.
Oh, this is gonna be a hoot and a half.
This is terrible.
I cannot believe they are doing this to Vazquez.
Does anyone else have a problem with the way they are handling Vazquez ? Geesh.
Time to go the old Nolan Ryan route – starters go 7-8 innings regardless of pitch count. If they have to throw 140 so be it.
140 pitches from the starter > anyone in the pen
Oh please you people are such a joke. Last year’s team was also something like .500 around this time.
All the same people saying how great last year’s team was, were probably the same ones saying how lousy they were at the time.
You people have the memory (and intelligence of goldfish).
You can over manage all you want when you have a healthy 25 man line up.
You have to be creative when you have so many injured players.
They really miss Aceves.
Yes, it’s only one game, and over 162 this team will be fine. The starting pitching is too good. Hughes will learn from this one. Dave Eiland will also learn a bit more about this team, as will Girardi. Tomorrow will be rained out.
Two really poor games in a row where they should have won, after dropping 3/4 to the Tigers, is some cause for concern.
The
Only 13 yr. olds post here knocking Yanks
deja vu all vasquez again
Girardi is terrible. If you r going to pitch Javy why wasn’t he in the 6th????????!
I really hope Javy gets this done. Lot of downside to this move.
I guess Girardi wanted to avoid using Javy, and now he ends up using him anyway.
Ideally, he gets this out quickly, and he’s still okay to pitch his regular turn.
I think the worst case scenario is if the Yankees tie the game and have to go into extras (that’s wcs for Javy, not for the team). Best case is Javy shuts it down here and there’s a comeback win in the 9th.
Frankly, if they’re going to lose, I’d rather it be in regulation time.
I think it’s interesting how so many people come out of the woodwork to trash a team they’re supposed to like, but have nothing to say during a good game or even the good part of a game that goes bad, or after a win.
I hope Girardi explains after the game why yesterday’s game was treated like a world series game but today’s like a spring training game. If Mo or Joba just came off the DL Girardi would NEVER ask them to pitch more than an inning. Him asking Park to do it is absolutely unexceptable.
Maybe this will be just like a throw day for Javy. Really, it has to be.
I actually feel badly for Javy here. This is a bizarrely-managed game. I don’t get some of these moves at all.
Why r they messing with Vazquez?
Let’s go Yankees!!!
GJ Javy
As far as brutal losses, this has to be the worst since we blew that 4-run lead in the 8th in Fenway back in 07 with MO.
To lose a game where you had a 5 run lead at home is just awful. To lose 2 back to back brutal games like that in your own building is unfathomable.
Last year the Yankees had this exact same schedule (Red Sox for two, then Rays for two, at home) and got swept in those four games. I hope we don’t have to deal with that again this week.
There’s a heck of a lot of pressure pitching in NY, Hughes just lost a little command tonite.
Good for Vazquez….
Good job, though
Who wants pie?
Who wants pie!!! I’m feeling Robbie Cano
Ace -
I’m sure Girardi wanted to avoid using Javy at all.
Great job, Javy!!!!!
Whew. Nice job, Javy. See you Friday night!
I never really say anything bad about Joe but using Javy there was really mind-boggling. Luckily he got out of it….
I can’t blieve they made him warm up for 1 batter. Unreal…
Lot of bad guys here. Girardi. Hughes. Logan. Park.
I know. People forget that the late inning magic wasn’t there last year until the Yankees started playing better. Also alot of luck was involved. So give me a break with this “they don’t have the late inning magic” crap.
Baseball teams score early and they score LATE ! That’s why it goes 9 inn.
Good for you, Javy. Nice job.
Gardner is 3-3 off Papelpon, but Tex has never gotten a hit off him, and A-Rod has had exactly one good AB against him. Not what I’d call the makings of a rally.
It’s high time for pie!!!!!
Glad he only had to throw a couple pitches. Honestly, I’m not too high on Javy, but we really need to get him back on track. He has good stuff, but he needs to work on his consistency.
doreen – its human nature. Have you listened to Sports talk radio lately ?? Its fueled by negativity. I would assume a blog is even worse because you dont have to wait on hold for over an hour.
“Cashman shouldn’t think so hard. The moves were easy. Put Gardner in CF. Resign Damon to DH. Sign Holliday.”
Damon wanted too much for an unmobile player. Holliday was too much and isn’t a good fielder.
All of this is to target Carl Crawford when he hits FA. So Cashman made the right move here. And there is also Jason Werth..so again smart move.
Now as much as I want to believe this 9th inning will be different, I just don’t…so I bid the blog farewell until tomorrow.
Well if I had a hot tub time machine I’d be soaking in it all the way back to October 2004 with that K!
If u r going to use Javy in this spot why wasn’t he in for the 6th? Terrible job
They said Vazquez was a mop up man, which is exactly what he is doing now.
one of the badly managed games by girardi…. u are lucky to get one inning out of park.. to stretch it to 2 innings was horrible.. he should have been lifted right after the homerun by youk.. then bringing in vazquez when the game is almost out of hand.. why couldnt he bring him in the 7th?
Rally time!!!
Yankeeeeeeeees!
It was Javy’s throw day-
If Vasquez was available in the bullpen tonight, why not in the 6th instead of Logan? Must make Cashman feel good seeing a healthy Vasquez pitch a mop up 9th inning of a game behind by 2 runs instead of the 6th inning ahead 2 runs. There’s some strange things going on in Gotham. Wonder if this is what Cashman envisioned when he picked $11.5m for Vasquez plus Melky and a stud single a live arm 19 yr old.
c’mon boys!!!
Ace May 17th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Lot of bad guys here. Girardi. Hughes. Logan. Park.
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You know, I honestly can’t even blame Park. The guy did a great job getting out of that first inning. Coming off the DL, he never should’ve been left out there for the second inning of work. That’s on Girardi.
The Yankees will survive one loss, for pete’s sake. Phil won’t pitch this badly all the time, count on it. Forget the loss – they know they can beat the Sox. The problems run deeper than one loss – like the pen, for one.
Lets go Yankees!
(clap clap clap)
Lets Go Yankees!
(clap clap clap)
make it 4-4 brett.
YANKEES!!!!
So Brandon basically wait til next yr to improve? To ‘maybe’ get Crawford? Stop saying Damon was expensive. You make it seem like NJ didn’t cost 5.5.
Just because they don’t come back to win games this year so far does not mean they won’t later on.
There is still a lot of baseball left. I’d rather they struggle a little now and make a charge later in the year than get a fast lead and then fade later on.
Those blonds have some pretty nice seats. Shocker.
BG has to get on
clap clap clap clap clap!!!!
I know what Girardi’s logic was -
MO would have been used tonight, that means he wouldn’t have been available tomorrow (no 3 days in a row)
So Joba would have been the closer tomorrow and he didn’t want to burn him today because then tomorrow would have been his 3rd in a row as well.
The biggest thing the Yanks need is better pen to get to 8th and 9th and a solid DH !
BERKMAN might be it.
Okay… I am going to say good night for real now….
Good night Yankee people!!!
agree about park. if joe knew his pen was so thin, he should have brought another reliever up.
Bryan
By calling Drew a loser shows me what you think of Hughes since you said “who gives up a three run homer to loser Nancy Drew”. Also the guy can hit and field so how is he a loser ?
Going to need some long ball magic
Ken -
I never listen to sports talk radio call-in shows.
The only question I have of Girardi is why keep in Park for two? That’s it.
This may sound strange coming from a Sox fan but some of you need to calm down a little before you jump off the bridge.
I entirely appreciate that the stakes are a little higher for both teams when it is the Yankees and the Red Sox playing each other.
At the same time, every team has a few bad games like this game which in fact is not over yet. It is a bit silly to say based on this game that Cashman did a rotten job, that this is the worse loss in three years, etc. etc. Position by position you have an edge over the Sox in a majority of positions and this one game doesn’t change that.
basehit!!!!!
BG!!!!!!
nice gardy! LETS DO THIS!
Gardner!!
I smell pie!!!
4-4!!!!!!
rally time!!!!
Gardner should hit lead off. Isn’t that obvious?
Woo! Lets go Mark.
“Have you listened to Sports talk radio lately ?? Its fueled by negativity.”
And that is a prime reason why I dont listen to it. Baseball is a 162 game season yet the hosts and callers treat it like Football every day. Its unlistenable. The Post’s back page today screamed that Jerry Manuel should be fired – not news mind you but an opinion piece. The negativity of the press has gotten out of control. We are not even at Memorial Day weekend yet. Too many fans have grown up with their instant messaging and gadgets and they expect baseball to be the same. Its a Looooong season. Us old timers understand that.
Nice at bat by Gardner. Too bad Girardi fell aasleep during the 8th inning and Park was allowed to give up that extra homerun.
Jeremy, all of a sudden notice how all the cowards come out calling Phil a loser, a choker, etc…..? Was he a choker in Fenway? In Detroit when they needed a victory when they’d just lost 3 in a row? He’s 23……….repeat …….he’s 23. What do people want from him anyway?
0-7?
TEX TIME!!!!!!!!
Calm down Tex….
Park in for 2 was inexcusable.
ray (sox fan),
Thanks for being the voice of reason! Seriously, Yankees fans need to calm down.
phil had a rough game but he is hardly a loser.
” isn’t that the case with all pitches (that is, if hitters are looking for them, they lose their effectiveness)?”
besty,
hitters look fastball mostly and still don’t hit them if it’s a good well located fastball with good movement and velocity.
mo’s cutter doesn’t get hit when hitters are looking for it. hughes cutter just isn’t that good to have it used in isolation.
you’re right though that the success of most secondary pitches is based on not knowing they’re coming.
the problem with the cutters hughes threw over the plate was that if they weren’t expecting them, the hitter’s bat would be fooled into the zone where the ball was going.
that’s not how you want to pitch. you want to speed up the bat into a zone where the ball is going the other way. like if hughes threw a change. the bat would be speeded up and would be covering the inside of the plate , but the ball would be on the outside.
Let’s go Yankees!!! clap clap clap clap clap
repeat
Come on Alex
just missed.
ray (sox fan): the voice of reason!
EFF. I thought off the bat that bad more behind it. Ugh.
Ball just doesnt seem to be carrying to right field tonight
boy i thought that was at least a double
Now I understand people calling out Girardi because he ruined the Yankees chances. You have to bring in Joba for the 8th no matter what.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-ROD!!!!!!!
ALEX!!!
…Wow. Unreal.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Alex !!!!!!
Alex!!!!
AROD!
A-rod !
told ya.
Long ball magic
OMG!!!!!!!!
Sterling:
Alex Rodriguez has done it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are the 13 yr. olds still UP !?????
Go Arod!1!! Too bad that wasn’t the winning run.
positive thinking people!!!!!
GO AROD!!!!!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you like them apples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No. Freaking. Way!!!!
ALEX! oh yeaah
That’s what we’re talking about.
phil was due for a bad game. it will be a learning experience for him. was he supposed to go 25-0 and have an ERA under 2? c’mon people
GAME ON
I screamed so hard that I freaked my parents out, lol!!!
Now we can really blame girardi for screwing this game up
Come on Cano. Let’s end this now….
Time for PIE!
Donnie – Will Meet Josh Beckett Under the O’Neill Banner May 17th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
…Wow. Unreal.
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Donnie. I am not even going to repeat what you said before about them having no chance to win now
Yes, now we wait for all the people who said this team was terrible and that they had no magic or will to win and that i shouldnt be optimistic to eat their words
alex is a very good baseball player.
Arod is cluTCH!!!
When Arod hits it and looks in the dugout out, you know he got it. Wow.
AJ!!! Get the PIEEEEE!!!
boom!!!
Now win it here Robbie.
I just somehow wish we could ban every last commenter that called this game over.
Sigh.
Another run please. I want Vazquez to pitch Friday.
so now we know why javy is in the game…
Erica, keep saying goodnight and then not leaving, it’s working!
Lets go Yankees!!
(clap clap clap)
Lets go Yankees!!
(clap clap clap)
Well, this is what the rivalry is all about. No easy wins for either side.
Could he be anymore clutch
Come on 13 yr. old numbskulls, where are you ?
ghosts?
Nick in SF in Larkspur May 17th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Erica, keep saying goodnight and then not leaving, it’s working!
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LOL. I really do want to get in my bed and read on my new Kindle.
I swear, I meant to go to bed…..
C’mon robbie!
Major Clutch A-Rod; minor clutch for BG for getting on base to lead off inning.
Totally agree with you jeers, a real fan waits for the last out
Okay… once more
Good night Yankee people!!!!
(I think)
Cano is ice cold.
I wish I knew who it was who used to go back through game threads and re-post the comments of the people who gave up.
Randy, then is Phil’s cutter overrated? If so, then is his approach to pitching a mistake because the cutter isn’t good enough to be a 2nd pitch?
If Javy comes out for the 10th then I’m sure he can’t pitch Friday.
Cano missed a good pitch to hit
Nick in SF in Larkspur May 17th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
I wish I knew who it was who used to go back through game threads and re-post the comments of the people who gave up.
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I think it was Guisseppe Franco
I hate Papelbom
So much
Betsy I was going to wait until after the game to tell you this (when the air cleared a bit) but I can say it now – sweet. No matter how many runs Phil gave up, he still left the game giving the Yankees a chance to win the game. Every Yankee pitcher at one time or another has given up 5 runs. It happens.
The Yankees win as a team and they lose as a team. I don’t think Girard was sitting with a ton of options.
# sunny615 May 17th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
because tex and arod are going to tie this game up and we’re going into extra innings…
What a bum.
CC hit Youk tomorrow. Thanks
Paps is brutal against the Yankees. Bard is overrated too.
ok i dont think paps meant that. doesnt want thames up with his power.
I. Hate. Papelbon. So. Much.
You knew he would hit someone !
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 17th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Donnie. I am not even going to repeat what you said before about them having no chance to win now
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Hey, I said CLOSE to 0% chance!
Hopefully Mo is ready for the 10. Not like yesterday. Too bad the Yanks have the bottom of the lineup coming up in the next inning.
Now you’ve gone too far, Paps!
This does set things up nicely for the 2-run walkoff bomb, ahem.
let’s go Yankees!!!! clap clap clap clap clap
repeat
Prove the haters wrong Thames!
nick, you can add BR and jerkface to that list
betsy-
the cutters a good pitch but he has to get the hitters looking away more for it to be effective .
that’s all
PIE!!!!!
adgasdgasdgds
Nicely done!
ha ha!!
KThames!!!!
I love Thames!!!
PIE?
WALK IT OFF
Haha…I love it.
this game freaking rocked!
Thames !
Papelbon BOMBED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YOU DID PROVE THE HATERS WRONG!!!
UN. FREAKING. REAL.
That just tanked one of my fantasy teams, and I don’t even care. haha
Wow!!! Thames!!!!
THAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess 1 good call by Cash.
Hahahahahahahahaha
thameeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!
Thames loves that fastball
c’mon marcus
Well I’ll be damned.
Ok, this inning seemed almost too easy… against Papelbon!!!
AJ GET THE PIES!
I take back every bad thing I’ve ever said about Thames.
Man it’s really terrible the yankees lost this game in the 8th inning
THAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE’S YOUR F’ING PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Wow…. Lots of people owe Thames a big fat sorry!!!!!
them ex-Tigers have a thing for getting Paps
Thames!!!!
Thames!!!!
GHOSTS!!!!!!!
Hit somebody else Pappy !!!!
THAMES!!!!!!!!!!
Javy Vasquez with the win!
wonder if sox fans hate papelbon as much as yankee fans hate boone?
wow
what a game.
my nephew went down for the game on his birthday.
happy birthday elliot!!!!!!
Betsy, and now it just doesn’t matter, believe me.
It’s all good.
Ladies and gentlemen – your New York Yankees.
Today’s Thames is Tomorrow’s Thames that you worried about yesterday!
We all lose tonight. haha!!!!!!
PIE TIME!!!!
All the Cashman haters can suck on that! Marcus Thames is a valuable bench player !!!!!!!
Strange, my posts are coming in minutes after I send them…….WHO WANTS PIE, INDEED?????
Thank you Francona for blowing out Papelbum against the Tigers.
Paps sucks. lol
First PIe!!!!
holy crap what a game
It was Marcus who wanted pie!
LOL Pie! And Mo laughing it up!!!
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the people insulting THAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
NO WALK OFF MAGIC MY AZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
MARCUS GETS PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Win for javy!
Raise your hand if you knew how that game was going to be scripted!!!! LOL
CRAZY!
pie pie pie pie pie
Thames saved his job. Now fix the bullpen.
Great.
My apologies to Thames and for being so negative. Hopefully a lesson learned but i cannot help myself especially against the Sox and living in NH.
aWESOME COMEBACK!
anyone still complaing about marcus thames…pistol pete were art thou now
Uncle Ellsworth May 17th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Win for javy!
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About time!!!! LOL
That was a great pie in the face. Get’s one word in then BAM !!!!!
Great win for Javy Vazquez. Well deserved!!!
“Wow?. Lots of people owe Thames a big fat sorry!!!!!”
You betcha
Can’t underestimate power, can’t come back in games without it, great job by ARod and Thames. Watching the Kim Jones interview, great outfit, great hair, looking real good this year.
I love baseball.
The Yankees never come back anymore.
Fire everybody.
Thames is a waste of a roster spot.
You crybabies need to drop dead.
You aren’t fans. You are morons.
Go root for the Red Sox. That’s where you belong.
Like I said a few moments ago, the do play 9 inn. Score early, score late !
Seriously, that’s a well deserved win for Javy…
What a game!!!!! Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO YANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
weird Javy gets the win. in a game he got skipped over.
What a terrific ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m raising my hand!
“This does set things up nicely for the 2-run walkoff bomb, ahem.”
I definitely thought Thames was getting splitters or something off speed.
TAKE THAT PAPELBON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE THAT THAMES HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALEX GODRIGUEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On my Fathers Day, I knew he’d give me something SPECIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was AWESOME!!!
well now Javy gets a win
I guess that would be a “Character win” for the Yankees and a “character loss” for Boston, huh?
Good deal for Thames for all of the crap he’s taken from the “more intelligent” board posters.
Guess that is why they play 9.
Great win and a crusher for the Sox.
It called sports and it’s a game where anything ( and does ) happen !!!
Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Yabkees won, whew!!
Papelbon blew the save AGAIN, bosox under .500.
So sorry Phil didn’t get #6, Javy gets#2.
for girardi, thank god they won. he was going to take a beating for his use of the pen today.
Ok, my hat is off to you guys.
That was a gritty win especially after giving up the lead earlier.
Marcus Thames owns me.
And Javy gets the win!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaa
Down goes PAP!!!!
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Couldn’t have happened better if you wrote it up. Pimplebutt blows the save and then the game. Thames must have been hungry for pie!
For all of you morons who spent all afternoon complaining about the bottom of the order, who have nothing but comtempt for the yankes bench….
Stick it, you don’t deserve to be Yankees fans.
wow, lots of clowns here. hahhahahah. WAHHHHHH. The yankees cant come back, this team has no heart…..waaaahhhhhhh
Everybody still want to fire Girardi now?
Perfect day for Papelbum to have nothing
not sure if this was mentioned, but did Javy just get his first win of the season!? lol
That’s how you cover a run line!
I certainly hope that Ortiz is being tested for vitamins…
Nick in SF in Larkspur May 17th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
I’m raising my hand!
“This does set things up nicely for the 2-run walkoff bomb, ahem.”
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That final “good night Yankee people” was the clincher
Everybody still want to fire Girardi now?
I’m not sure what this has to do with Girardi.
# ray (sox fan) May 17th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Ok, my hat is off to you guys.
That was a gritty win especially after giving up the lead earlier.
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Thanks, you make sense !!!
oh, just saw it was. pretty funny it came to him this way though.
Thames just told all those who complained about the bottom of the lineup to suck on that!
The best part is that Erica’s Avengers are going up against Papelbon this week
Javy gets the win, lol – I love it!!!
That was awesome…feels like 2009!!!!!! AROD again and now Thames!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow…no sleep for me for at least the next 2 hours!!!! Go Yankees…#28 in 2010!!!!
Bard should be the Sox closer
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALEX AND THAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Javy with win….. And he can still make his start on friday……. WOHHHHOOOOOOOO
ray (sox fan), you are all class…..these teams really do slug it out, don’t they?
my friend in the bleachers said they were all chanting “Pie!” “Pie!” when thames got up
ray (sox fan)
You are far more magnanimous than I could ever be.
OK. The Yankees are officially in Papelbon’s head. When was the last time the guy gave up two HR in an inning? With every ball hit hard? And they compare this guy to Mo?
Speaking of Mo, this makes up for yesterday. Our closer blows it, the Sox closer blows it.
Still doesn’t make up for nothing on the bench due to injuries, a shaky BP, and a manager that plays it too much by the book given the the above two issues.
According to Eck on NESN–”Papelbon has NEVER had a game like this.”
Gardner should lead off now.
what a game!!!!
i don’t think becket and papelbon like cervelli.
they keep hitting him or throwing up and in.
hitting a catcher isn’t that smart.
for one thing , they are used to pain and another things is they can call an awful lot of up and in pitches when they’re ticked off.
That was so awesome
I can no longer complain about Marcus Thames
great win, but SJ44 was correct earlier… 7 runs in 6 innings should be enough to win the game. The bullpen/Boone/Park was totally ineffective and Hughes was definitely in love with his cutter and Cervelli and Hughes hopefully will take this and step forward. This game was won, but I think the more valuable part here was the development of Hughes as a pitcher.
at any moment, a great moment!
Managers can win only a few games during a season, but they can lose a few more !
i love that vazquez got the win. it was a big strikeout.
Rich in NJ he pwns you
Erica: it’s a process.
I hope that guy will go back and pick through the panic posts… what was his name again????
Woooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo….. That’s what Danny Bahd gets for acting like a scumbag mini Beckett. A-Rod and Thames!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahha, Nohmah got real quiet, and quickly at that. Not even sure what happened.
I’m sooooooo happy for Thames, who people trashed in ST. I don’t like him in the OF at all, but he’s done a nice job offensively and he couldn’t possibly have a bigger it.
What a game, from the depths of despair to the heights of glory, lol….
Now you’ve gone too far, Paps!
This does set things up nicely for the 2-run walkoff bomb, ahem.
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Time and Again?????
What was that about not scoring tonight?
Who knew the best pitcher out of the pen would be Javier?
And Hit Pig goes back to the sty to wallow in the mud and pig crap….AGAIN.
Hey Bronx Jeers,
Does this mean we have entered the Fifth World?????
I was gonna say this earlier. But I was sort of hoping jeter would make the last out in the 8th.
MG said it best.
11 runs scored on a night people whined about the lineup for hours.
We have some of the dumbest fans in sports.
Thank God they are a minority of the entire fan base.
raymag
Thames? Oh yeah.
it makes me sad to read the comments on this blog….the level of bandwagon jumpers just within 2 innings is sickening.
trust me. paps wasnt aiming for cervelli. a guy with no power vs. thames with a lot of power? this is the result.
Randy, thanks – I think I get it, lol. I’ll probably have more questions later, but right now I’m still glowing, lol
mike fatcessa was bringing up the thing that dice k was lights ot last time around and the yanks bottom of the lineup is ciso, thames, winn and pena.. guess what? the bottom of the lineup did more than a good job..
thanks papelbon for putting cisco on… without that thames wouldn’t have come up to the plate..
MR. THAMES!!!!
How many hits off of Papelbum does Gardner have; he seems to hit him very well.
Thank you A-Rod/Thames.
Papelpunk drills Cervelli to get to Thames; not a good move.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A SPECIAL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALEX GRABBING THAT HELMET AT THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too bad some don’t understand that baseball games go 9 innings.
As a bonus, Vaz gets the W. How’s that for making him feel good!
Monster game for BG
i’ll still say what the hell was girardi doing with the pen tonight…
looks better cause they won but still..
“11 runs scored on a night people whined about the lineup for hours.
We have some of the dumbest fans in sports.”
There is so much wrong with this statement, but I’ll let it go for now.
Marte and Vazquez were heroes in this game, too. Two scoreless innings in a game that was getting out of hand.
BB… Gardner is 4-4 off paps.
I could watch HR’s off Papelbon all day long…especially when they’re courtesy of Alex, and/or of the walk-off variety.
God bless the Yankees…
(((going to bed with a smile)))
I saw Thames shaking his head after that strikeout against Bard, and I knew he was going to do something against Papelbon. I just KNEW IT!!!!! WHAT A GREAT FEELING FOR THAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COULDNT HAVE HAPPENED FOR A BETTER GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there a post game? in DE so I got to watch the game, but would love any quotes
The most important hit was Gardenhoser getting that leadoff double
Beckett and Papelbum are both babbies. When they get hit it’s automatic you know someone is getting drilled. They should get thrown out of the game the next time one of them pulls that crap. Gardner owns Papelbum.
It’s easy to see how winning builds chemistry. Think about how many guys would have felt awful after a loss tonight- Hughes, Logan, Park, Jeter (for his 8th inning AB), Girardi, Tex and Arod if they didn’t come through in the 9th…now I’m sure the pitchers are still disappointed about their performances, but now they can at least sleep well tonight knowing the team won. And this was a nice boost for Thames and Javy.
“Great.
My apologies to Thames and for being so negative. Hopefully a lesson learned but i cannot help myself especially against the Sox and living in NH.
aWESOME COMEBACK!”
Hey I live in RI and I live believing that no good will ever come to them and they can’t shine the Yankees’ shoes. And they continue to prove me correct. Think of them as our chum(p). You’re on one side, I’m on the other, they’re in the middle. We can S-Q-U-E-E-Z-E the baseball llife out of them.
I am taping their postgame on my DVR so I can go to bed happier than ever.
YAY VAZQUEZ WIN!!!
John Kruk sounds depressed that the Red Sox “could be out of it after the next 10 games or so” …. Listen John, just come out and admit to your fandom you scum.
Francisco Cervelli: 2-4, HBP, 1 RBI
Marcus Thames: 2-4, 4 RBI, GW HR
Randy Winn: 1-4
Ramiro Pena: 1-3
The bottom of the lineup!
pat m-
you said numerous times to get him long before the yankees signed thames.
good call.
just have to keep him out of the outfield in 2-3 club winds.
That was awesome! Just caught the last inning and wow! Go Yankees!
“Too bad some don’t understand that baseball games go 9 innings.”
You are just so smart.
Papalbom prbly sees Bret in his sleep, what is it w/ him that turns him mortal. B/c I love Bret..but in no way did I think he would lace one off him.
Alex looked very zoned in before that AB. And that leg kick of his was more controlled.
Both Alex and Thames went up there looking dead red.
Nice that Phil was able to get his learning experience, about setting up hitters and ABs as the game goes along, and we still got the W. It will take some of the sting off of things for him.
Patrick
I apologize for asking if you ever said anything positive about the Yankees. It’s just hard to tell who is a real fan or a troll/bandwagon fan.
“And Hit Pig goes back to the sty to wallow in the mud and pig crap?.AGAIN.”
Hit Pig. What a lunatic.
Thames is from a town called Louisville in the heart of Mississippi.
What do you think they eat there? Shrimp maybe.
I really wanted to get to bed early tonight, but im so amped right now I feel like I drank 20 shots of expresso. GO YANKEES
I really wanted to get to bed early tonight, but im so amped right now I feel like I drank 20 shots of expresso. GO YANKEES
Good to know there are some smart people (Yankees fans) in this fine state of New Hampshire besides me haha
Pap hitting Cervelli was pretty stupid, lol – and pretty key. Cervelli isn’t a power threat, but Thames sure is.
I feel really good for Javy…I wonder if he would have pitched the 10th? Oh well, guess it doesn’t matter now, lol.
“And Hit Pig goes back to the sty to wallow in the mud and pig crap?.AGAIN.”
Hit Pig. What a lunatic.”
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where’s S HIT GIRL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vintage Girardi managing the Yanks into a loss…definitely not one of his finer jobs.
Did Alexs HR go to the same spot his HR against Pap at Fenway went – i know great syntax
Sterling and Waldman gave PHIL HUGHES the Star of the game….?
NYY626 May 17th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I really wanted to get to bed early tonight, but im so amped right now I feel like I drank 20 shots of expresso. GO YANKEES
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Seriously. I said ‘good night” like 4 times.
And then I was screaming and skipping around my apartment
“# SJ44 May 17th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
The Yankees never come back anymore.
Fire everybody.
Thames is a waste of a roster spot.
You crybabies need to drop dead.
You aren’t fans. You are morons.
Go root for the Red Sox. That’s where you belong.”
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SJ44,
It really is embarrassing. Some of these complete imbeciles are out there giving normal Yankee fans a bad name.
Every time a non-Yanks fan (there’s at least a couple in Boston) gives me a hard time, I have these pea-brains to thank for it.
Glad the Yanks pulled through and exposed them yet again!
Joe, I think you’re right. I’m sure Phil felt pretty lousy after the game and his teammates were probably trying to buck him up (after all he’s taken this team on his back a few times), but this will make him feel better…..
Joe,
I’ve noticed Alex’s leg kick as well..He’s getting it up and down more quickly now and just seems to have quietened everything down a bit. He looks like he’s about to go on one of his tears where you can’t get him out….lets hope so.
Javy got a win out of that. Hopefully that creates more momentum for him.
Alex Rodriguez is a very special baseball player. For years he was pilloried in NY by the media and fanbase as being “unclutch.”
The claim was always ridiculous. He’s a great baseball player and has been for nearly his entire career after his first cup of coffee.
But since coming back from the hip problem and adjusting his hitting mechanics and his approach he’s plaid the game in an utterly sublime fashion. The brilliance of what he’s doing is hard to believe.
And Yankee fans should appreciate it because we are unlikely to see the game played at this level for years.
His swing is just beautiful. There’s no other way to put it. The minute he started his hands in motion and Papelbon’s pitch started tailing off it’s spot you could see what was going to happen. He started executing one of those perfect swings that results in balls getting crushed, and crushed with enormous backspin that’s going to give the ball enormous carry.
He was on the pitch the entire way.
And the minute he hit it it was difficult not to remember the home run he hit to end that wonderful 15 inning game last year against the Sox.
Just brilliant.
It’s what makes the game of baseball such a joy.
You don’t have to let it go.
Here is an exercise for you.
Go back and read the lineup threads for Hughes’s last 4 starts.
Read how many people whined about the lineup and how Hughes “has to throw a shutout” to win.
Guess what? They are averaging almost 10 runs per game in those starts.
This “horrible lineup” bailed Hughes out tonight.
We have a lot of dumb fans in this fan base.
They are playing shorthanded and are finding ways to win while shorthanded.
That’s what good teams do.
Too bad the whiners and morons in the fan base don’t grasp that fact.
Cannot forget BG’s huge AB either. Clearly Pap did not have it, but BG was pretty clutch to battle and get on base to set the tone.
Granderson- game winning HR off Papelbon
Thames- game winning HR off Papelbon
Vazquez- 1-0 vs. Red Sox
funny how things work sometimes. Three of Cashman’s aquisitions who people have killed have all shined against the Sox this year.
I’m a helluva lot smarter than you are.
“Beckett and Papelbum are both babbies. When they get hit it’s automatic you know someone is getting drilled.”
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perhaps, but this time, there is prob zero chance Pap was trying to hit Cervelli there.
You are right though… they really are the two biggest jerks on the Sox and that is from personal experience as well as from Sox employees.
CR9 May 17th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
I saw Thames shaking his head after that strikeout against Bard, and I knew he was going to do something against Papelbon.
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After the heat Bard was throwing, that 95 MPH junk from Papelbon is nothing.
Seriously, when the hell is Girardi going to wake up and put Gardner in the leadoff spot?
I mean, how can you continuously lead off Jeter (we still love you) when he is batting .268 and a lower OBP also?
It’s just ridiculous how stubborn and thickheaded Girardi is?
Chad, will you pose that question to Girardi already?
I’m not worried about Hughes at all..whether they won or lost this game he will be fine. He’s still learning, he got a little too cutter happy tonight and really didn’t have his best stuff or command much of the game….it happens and a game like tonight wasn’t a matter of if but when.. Halladay got shelled by the Giants earlier in the year too.
“You don’t have to let it go.
Here is an exercise for you.”
Here’s one for you: The result doesn’t necessarily justify the process that led to it.
Phil had a bad start tonight, he was throwing under the ball for the first time this season. And that cutter hurt him tonight. He got off his fastball/curveball plan.
But again I can’t say much bad about him.
The only thing going good for Boston is the Pearl Jam show tonight.
Joe from Long Island May 17th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
“I’m a helluva lot smarter than you are.”
You are delusional.
and JAVIER GETS HIS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT FOR JAVIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, its for real now.
Good night Yankee people!!!
Arod probably creates more backspin than anyone in baseball. Its amazing the carry he gets.
Alex was just saying the other day that the offense has to help bail out the pitchers once in a while (or something like that). He lived up to his word today.
SJ44,
This is kind of pathetic. Shouldn’t you be happy the Yankees won? Instead you are rubbing it in everyone’s face “ha ha I told you so I told you so!”
Completely childish, grow up.
Good night EXTRAORDINARY ERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CB, you write with such beauty…your posts are like poetry and i mean that sincerely.
cb,
great post. i have a question about the backspin. is there another player in the game that can generate that kind of backspin? historically? i have always heard that pujols is a line-drive kind of hitter.
what’s the key to the spin? swing mechanics or bat speed?
Special win, any time you put up 4 on a closer including an A-rod HR is a great night. Top of the order did well vs Papelbon, they had good swings.
Expecting Thames to do much during the season is still a bit of an overreach, but I’m happy he got a walk off HR.
Blake, even though I’ve been saying that Phil is young, he’s not fully developed, etc….it still came as something of a surprise that he struggled, lol. I see the comments I am making and I wonder if I’m being too “worried” and nitpicky about a 23 year old..
Sure it does Rich. Especially in sports when it’s about winning and losing.
The bench guys are contributing to these wins. What more do you want?
The bottom of the order has carried this team for large stretches so far this year.
Again, what more do you want?
And Alex like a kid in a candy store!!! Going for Thames’ helmet!!!
I love that guy!!!!!!!!!! He’s not AROD! He’s A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CB,
Yeah, A-rod is incredible. And it was funny watching him run around in circles like a goofy kid after the walkoff
Brandon, what does it mean to throw under a ball?
Betsy, think of it this way. Phil got the stinker out of the way. I said a few games ago that if Phil threw 20 bad games in a row it wouldn’t shake my faith in him because I’ve seen him pitch and I know what he’s got. We don’t spin out when any of our other pitchers have a bad game (well I don’t anyway) we’re not going to spin out over Phil.
And if you’ve watched enough postgames you know that the one thing that gets a starter over a bad start is a win.
YES!!!!!
I know it was just one batter but Vazquez made some really good pitches to him. Add that to his last start and you have some positive vibes there.
Pressure, palpable
Pabelbon’s palpitations
Pie a priori
A-Rod seems to be going up to the plate right now and just doing whatever he wants.
BTW – Lohud 1,500 comments vs. Pete Abe 250 comments.
Not a bad night to be in enemy territory. About two hours ago I was dreading work tomorrow and now I can’t wait.
# CR9 May 17th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
And Alex like a kid in a candy store!!! Going for Thames’ helmet!!!
I love that guy!!!!!!!!!! He’s not AROD! He’s A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# Patrick May 17th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
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CB,
Yeah, A-rod is incredible. And it was funny watching him run around in circles like a goofy kid after the walkoff
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Not to mention the little “shoving match” he and Cano were involved in, trying to get position to get the helmet.
“# Brandon’s Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS believes in tasing fans that jump fences) May 17th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Papalbom prbly sees Bret in his sleep, what is it w/ him that turns him mortal. B/c I love Bret..but in no way did I think he would lace one off him.”
He’s 4 for 4 off him with a walk-off already in his career.
AJ sort of did that pie is slow motion, lol and Mo was laughing it up – that was priceless!
Thames on mlbnetwork
I think CR-9′s dad was telling CR that he understood why a 15-year-old would be watching a sporting event as opposed to visiting a hospital.
CR-9 – THIS ONE’S FOR YOU!!!!!
SJ44
Look, as I said, I would prefer to just enjoy the win, but if you want to discuss it:
You really think it made sense to put Park out for a 2nd IP after just coming off the DL when you were prepared to use Vazquez anyway?
As for the lineup, a player as great as A-Rod erases a lot of mistakes. He’s a generational talent.
Gotta love Cervelli………..
What a team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We suffer through tough schedules, injuries galore, and we never give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just like last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that anyone would ever doubt the heart of the YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree Gardner has to be moved to leadoff. I have been saying it for a week now. His at bats have been extremely good. Jeter’s at bats have been very poor. He swings at anything in sight and doesn’t set the table at all. Gardner has done everything they have asked. They have to be switched.
Flaherty and Ken Singleton both just pointed out that Papelbon clearly didn’t have his best stuff. They noted that both Alex and Thames jumped on the first pitch, which is very unusual when Paps is on. They figured he’s still burned out from pitching nearly 3 innings Saturday.
Flaherty said that Phil’s problem is he fell in love with his cutter. Said he has to learn to mix and match his pitches better and this is something that Eiland will mention to him as they move forward.
CC can step on the Sox’s neck tomorrow and make their comeback more and more improbable every day. Let’s go CC.
Trish, I’ve no worries about Phil in terms of this game – it was just a bad one and you toss it. I thought he was going to have an easy 5th, but he couldn’t put Pedroia away – he just couldn’t put anyone away after the first. I’m sure he’s just tickled to death over the win, though
Why is it so hard for some people to say they were wrong? That sometimes they don’t know how things are going to turn out just by looking at the list of names in the lineup? This compromised lineup scored 11 runs tonight. 11.
Was this a perfectly played game? No.
But I don’t care. The end result is a win. And in baseball, the end justifies the means.
(Or at least makes the means easier to take.)
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 17th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
AJ sort of did that pie is slow motion, lol and Mo was laughing it up – that was priceless!
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The timing of that pie-ing was great, too. Just after Kim had asked the first question and Thames was starting his answer. Perfect.
The yanks gave a big punch to the sox for several reasons:
1. They got to hughes early in terms of working his pitch count.
2. Half of the lineup were subs, just think about that.
3. Joba or mo didn’t even come into the game
4. And of course A-Rod and Thames with two big 2 run homers of papelbon
JM, that’s why I’ve been saying in other Phil game threads that I didn’t get the reliance on FB/Cutter. Everyone else seemed to be perfectly fine with that, but I thought it would come back and bite him one day. I think he loves his FB almost too much and his curve not enough
CB
The new plate approach he seems to have is now looking like trying not to do too much until it’s time to do alot.
I feel like he’s toying with everyone a little now.
What did Papelbon throw 1 splitter that entire inning?
He has become a 1 pitch pitcher.
Against a team like the Yankees who can handle a good fastball, that is trouble.
“Brandon, what does it mean to throw under a ball?”
Betsy, it means he wasn’t staying on top of it.
Alright SJ44 and the rest, if you want to hear one of us say it here you go. I was wrong about the lineup tonight. I didn’t think in a million years that this lineup would score 11 runs in a game.
However, as Rich said, a guy like A-rod covers up a lot of weaknesses. And do you really think this lineup would score so much if it played 162 games? No. It was a middle of the pack type of lineup that got lucky to score so many runs.
Now that you’ve all had your told-you-so moment, shut the hell up and enjoy the great win!
I had a feeling, that when I turned the game off after the 8th, that the Yankees would come back, because I wasn’t watching!! LOL
I think I’m going to pie myself!!
Sorry, Phil, it’s unsanctioned and not in your honor, but this game might have been shake-worthy anyway.
Blake, agree about Javy………
Rob, right, lol……..ah, that felt good.
Girardi: “Javy gets his first win”
XXX. Try again.
Your dead father is rolling over in his grave. Your team got lucky tonight you retard.
Detroit boys owned Pap this year. First Granderson, now Thames. Got to love it.
Great job by Brett starting it off in the 9th, another 3 runs scored tonight. You can’t say enough what a great job he is doing.
Alex sat dead red and he got it, and then dumb dumb had to hit Frankie to set it up for Thames.
Again he sat dead red and dumb dumb put it on a tee.
Phil is a very smart kid, he will learn once and for all after tonight about he need sto stop throwing his third best pitch too much. Trust your fastball, even though he did not have great command of it, see the pitch to Beltre where he missed with his fastball, but even then it was only a single, not a hr. Throw your best pitch, and even when it is not totally on, you will not get hurt by it that badly. You throw your third best pitch to often and you will get hurt. It’s a valuable lesson that smart pitchers learn, I think Phil is one of those, so I hope Eiland talks to him as well as Frankie, and makes it a good learning experience.
Joe needs to stop overpitching Park, he should not have been pitching that second inning, when he is coming back from an injury, that’s just asking for trouble, and he found it.
Overall his managing this year has been less than perfect, he has over managed at times and then under managed other situations, it is like he is in between situations all the time, and not trusting his gut almost.
The fact this teams has the record it has is pretty crazy, considering the injuries, and the fact the Captain is really not having good at bats, plus Alex and Tex struggling early on.
First of we all hope many a comeback pie victory of the year, lets put these sox to sleep and win the next two.
Goodnight all.
Hughes and Cervelli will learn things from this game. You can’t keep going back to the same pitch time after time when it’s not working. They’re really young to make up a battery. It’s a good experience and it didn’t cost them the game.
Oh snap, Joe is mad
Good for Joe – he’s insisting that Javy was not skipped to avoid the Sox
Good night TRUE Yankee fans !!!
Ortiz karma. The gift that just keeps on giving.
Fran and I were on our other forum chatting during the game and her computer froze up just before Alex hit his homer. I took that as a good omen!!
WooooooHoooooooooooooo!!
What a feeling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Trisha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Javy gets his first win???????
Ugh, the filth and the fury again!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....617197270/
“What did Papelbon throw 1 splitter that entire inning?
He has become a 1 pitch pitcher. ”
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He has almost always relied almost exclusively on 1 pitch and it’s worked.
I’ve seen him mow down three straight hitters with fastball after fastball.
tonight he missed with location against the wrong hitters and was a few ticks lower on the radar gun so those mistakes were gonna hurt.
LOL!!
Wally Matthews at it again!!
Girardi: “I think Javy can still start on Fri”