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Possible move in the works

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 18, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

ph_453343The Yankees are prepared to add a releiver before tonight’s game, but they’re watching the weather to make sure the game is going to be played before they commit to a call-up.

A source has indicated that Mark Melancon is the most likely addition. Melancon was with the Yankees briefly this season, and he hasn’t allowed a run in his past 5.2 innings with Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. In that time he’s struck out 13, walked two and allowed four hits.

Boone Logan could be optioned to make room on the roster, but I’ve heard the Yankees might send Greg Golson down in order to keep the extra reliever.

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317 Responses to “Possible move in the works”

  1. teddy gbu May 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    about time

  2. Whatever May 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    The door is wide open, Mark. Please stick around this time.

  3. Andrew May 18th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Man Boone Logan has 9 freakin’ lives. He is like an immovable object of suck

  4. MTU (aka GBURL) May 18th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    You’re chance to shine Mark. You’re chance to shine.

    You can be this year’s D-Rob.

    The brass ring is right before you. All you have to do is go out and grab it !

    :)

  5. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    again with melancon? why does this guy so many chances? he reminds me of Ian Kennedy. dominates in AAA, but can not get hitters out in the big leagues.
    maybe this is the time when Melancon shows up and pitchers well enough to stay on the team for the remainder of 2010. I hope so because we can use a dependable arm in the pen.

    If Golson is sent down, that better mean that Swisher is 100%. I don’t mind adding the extra reliever for the 1 sox game remaining and the 2 games vs the rays.

  6. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Andrew May 18th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    Man Boone Logan has 9 freakin? lives. He is like an immovable object of suck

    ************************

    :lol:

  7. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Just send Logan down already……..

    Pat M, I guess it was one of those nights where Phil didn’t have his FB. He might have been able to work around it had he used all his pitches……..You would think lesson learned, but it’s one thing to say that you realize that you’re going to a certain pitch too much, it’s another to actually do something about it.

  8. Shame Spencer May 18th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    stucky, you’re absolutely right. Perhaps I should have framed my response better. I find the lack of respect regular “right” posters show towards regular “wrong” posters to be ridiculous. Congratulations to you all who have the most firm grasp on the game of baseball. I’m sure you go to bed much easier at night knowing that you are smarter and more baseball savy than other posters. I’m sorry for wishing that not only would the “Chicken Littles” of Lohud calm down but that the know-it-alls would do the same. I just think both sides perpetually look foolish.

  9. jennifer May 18th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    I can’t see how they wouldn’t send down Boone. Boone has been more bad than good. He more often than not walks the first guy he is brought in to face.

    I can’t see them sending down Golson Especially given the fact that Swish is not 100% healthy.

  10. sunny615 May 18th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Seriously? What good is having an extra reliever when he does nothing but throw slop and meatballs? You might as well have Golson be the extra reliever… you’d get the same results.

  11. Andrew May 18th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    “again with melancon? why does this guy so many chances? he reminds me of Ian Kennedy. dominates in AAA, but can not get hitters out in the big leagues.”

    Ian Kennedy also pitches pretty well in the National League which last I checked is not AAA regardless of what people want to say about the two leagues being worlds apart. He probably would have been at the very least okay in the AL too but, then again, if you would rather base your talent evaluations on extremely small sample sizes (for both Kennedy and Melancon), so be it.

  12. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Shame Spencer-

    I agree. At the end of the day someone who posts 30 times that everyone else is an “idiot” and “moron” doesn’t come off looking any more intelligent or classy

  13. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Jeter-SS
    Gardner-CF
    Tex-1B
    ARod-3B
    Cano-2B
    Cervelli-C
    Thames-RF
    Miranda-DH
    Winn-LF

  14. Tara May 18th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Mr Thames was a good pickup because of his power and less noticable injury history. Cashman must have felt NJ needed the money and gave him some corporate welfare.

  15. Tara May 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Pig Sloppy was looking good last night. Is he on the juice again?

  16. vblade May 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    The NJ signing ended up blowing in Cashman’s face, but if he gets bailed out by a Miranda/Thames DH platoon then no one will complain too much.

  17. vinny-b (Brett Gardner will never see the bench again) May 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    like the signature says.

  18. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Shame, while I understand what you’re saying I also understand stuckey’s point. Hearing nonstop complaining about a team with the second best record in the game and arguably the best rotation, with a lot of injuries, is beyond frustrating. To me it just makes the complainers look dumb because they always end up getting it wrong. I think that is what stuckey is saying. I think the people with the biggest problems are those who refuse to see the game as a marathon and not a sprint and don’t witness any ability to see beyond their noses! If there’s a loss, they feel the need to dissect it ad nauseum and announce exactly what is wrong with the Yankees. They panic beyond belief at every pitch or lack of pitch, they panic beyond belief at every AB, and panic beyond belief at every lineup that doesn’t comport with their idea, and they really bring the forum down.

    How about posters who are willing to make negative pronouncements on players after only a few games? Did you read the forum the night Winn and Thames had the nerve not to come through (when the veterans were also not coming through, mind you). Here are players who do not get into the lineup all that often, and when they don’t come through they’re garbage. Just about everybody on the forum had them off the team. Yet the next day they come through. Now they’re loved again. It’s disgusting. And I guess they had forgotten about Winn’s 3-run homer in a previous game.

    The “what have you done for me lately” mentality is almost frightening. I remember reading some posters who just KNEW that Gardner would never amount to anything. There’s something to watching a player who is a regular in the lineup and looking to see what that player can do with regular playing time – not as a platoon player, but as the every-day player. Well we’ve seen it with Gardner.

    I just wish people had the ability to withhold negative judgement and give new and part-time players a chance. But they refuse to do it. And no matter how many times they get it wrong, they always come back for more. THAT’S the frustrating part.

    Anyway that’s how I feel about it. The best lesson is in knowing enough about your team that you realize that chances are better than not that they will get the job done when it counts.

  19. Wave Your Hat May 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Melancon is doing everything he can do at AAA, and Logan hasn’t exactly been Mr. Perfect up here. I think it would be a perfectly logical move although the Yanks may bring up a guy they think could pitch 3+ innings in case there’s a long rain delay in the second or third inning tonight.

  20. Dallas Braden May 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    The other relief addition should be Romulo Sanchez…. Send down Golson and Logan and get Melancon and Sanchez up. ( And keep them here)

    Once Aceves and Granderson are healthy get rid of Winn and Park… Add some outfield depth from within… Weber and Winfree come to mind

  21. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    andrew-let’s face it, Ian Kennedy is better off pitching is the NL.
    his straight fastball and change-up were not suited for the AL East, let alone the AL with the DH.

    i hope he does very well in the NL and has a long career. if he remained a Yankee, Kennedy would make Ed Whitson look like Doc Gooden(LOL)

    you are correct, the NL is not AAA, but as far as hitters and long line-up go, the NL is far easier for a pitcher than the AL.

    i.e.
    Holladay for the Phils.

  22. z May 18th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Well, the alternative is Marte as the sole lefty in the pen.

    That’s not such a great alternative.

    The system seems to have no ready-made ace lefty reliever solution. Maybe someone can go a few years in the future and bring back a polished Wilkin De La Rosa.

  23. pat May 18th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Doreen

    Are you looking for WiFi in White Plains? There’s a Starbucks on Main Street diagonal from the Ritz Carlton Hotel/Galleria Mall and there’s a Kinkos on the corner of Mamaroneck Avenue and E. Post Road.

  24. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    i think the Yankees can afford to carry an extra pitcher for the next few days, but once the games at the mets are played, what the team needs is a bench that gives Girardi a lot of flexibility to pinch hit, double switch, etc…

  25. Coach6423 May 18th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Melancon hasnt been given a shot. He has made about 6 appearances in a year. He has to be given a shot, not just a call up to pitch garbage time. He has all the tools, and needs to pitch somewhat frequently to show them.

  26. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    With Marte, Robertson and Park being crappy, Ace down with an injury it’s time for Melancon to step up. He can really carve out a role for himself if he pitches well.

  27. G. Love May 18th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Trisha — Good post.

  28. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    While I understand the frustration of “chicken littles” on this board. Aren’t they allowed to speak their opinions just like everyone else?

    I don’t like hearing the same 500 line up and injury complaints. But if you can give your opinion. They can give theirs.

  29. Bryan May 18th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Tubby Francessa has a rule:

    no matter who the closer is or what the score is if the closer gives up a HR he needs to come out

    RIGHT AWAY

    HAHAHAHA

  30. Shame Spencer May 18th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    trisha – point taken but then why do you guys still come here?

    The people that come here are going to be people that want to post their thoughts as they have them on the blog. The way I look at it, half the posters don’t even believe what they are saying outside of that moment, but they think it, they type it, they click ‘submit’ and everyone freaks out about it all over again. Its like a really bad never ending cycle of complaining (which, yes, I’m adding to right now).

    Why can’t you guys take these people with a grain of salt? Why can’t you just think “Eh, we’re losing now but if I come back in two innings when we’re up a run everyone will be singing a different tune” and let it be?? Is it so frustrating that people have these opinions that you need to, AT EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY, let it be known that they do not know baseball?

    Its a blog for cryin’ out loud!! A BLOG!! No one here is changing the world with their baseball insight. Not the people that are right or the ones that are wrong. I’ll be the first to admit I agree with the more even-tempered posters on here on a fairly regular basis, but why engage in these silly arguments that hold no merit for no other reason than to force a different opinion from people?

  31. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    patrick-i will be cheering for melancon when he is given the opportunity. so many of us have heard great things about the kid for awhile. 2010 is his year to stick with the team by throwing the ball well and not giving up 3 runs an inning.
    in 2010 he appeared in 1 game, back on my 2. gave up 3 runs, 2 earned and a home run.
    performances like that won’t keep him around for very long
    in ’09 his era was almost 4 in 13 games. he had the same amount of k’s/walks.
    again, those stats won’t cut it in the big leagues.

  32. Matt DiBari May 18th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    I really hope its Logan that goes. Having two lefties is too tempting to Giardi. He can’t help but over manage.

  33. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Erica, that’s not how it works here, you know that.

  34. Andrew May 18th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Warning Track Power I do not agree at all, but it’s not worth debating over, guy’s not even on the Yankees anymore. My issue is more with the fact that Melancon deserves a chance. They gave Robertson a chance in both ’08 and ’09 and he stepped up and provided value. They need to do with Melancon, but obviously it’s all contingent on how ready they think he is. It seems like there isn’t much more for him to do at AAA though

  35. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Pat M – Hughes and Cervelli had teamed up to beat the Sux with the same 1-5 players in the mix.

    *****************
    I get really tired of hearing about Cervelli’s “rookie mistake” every time something goes wrong. SJ you do it more than anyone and if makes me wonder if you subconsciously are still carrying that Posada torch from last season so that you can’t wait to find something wrong with Cervelli and point it out. You continue to refer to him as a back-up catcher and nothing else. I’m thinking you really have it wrong. Time will tell.

    How many games does a catcher catch before he’s no longer referred to as a rookie? Cervelli caught a lot of games last season.

    I’m not saying Cervelli did or did not call for the wrong pitch. If he did, welcome to the club Francisco. It’s won’t be the first or last time a catcher messes up. On balance he’s done really well calling for the correct pitch, I think we would all agree.

    ********************

    If veteran catchers call for the wrong pitch, is it a “veteran mistake”?

    Anyway, it’s all good. The Yankees desperately need Jorge in the lineup and I continue to see him as the Yankee’s most clutch hitter, no question.

    As an aside, how cool is it that Cervelli leads the league in average with 2 outs and RISP?

  36. Trevor May 18th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    SS Jeter
    CF Gardner
    1B Teixeira
    3B Rodriguez
    2B Cano
    DH Posada
    RF Thames
    C Cervelli
    LF Winn

  37. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Mike is right – the Sox throw at the Yankees and the Yankees just sit back and take it.

  38. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    Erica, that?s not how it works here, you know that.

    ************

    It was an attempt at rationality. And for the record, I hope you know I don’t consider you a “chicken little”. I think sometimes you play devils advocate and speak hypothetically and people often take that the wrong way

  39. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    SAS & Pat -

    Thanks.

    I wasn’t ignoring you; I just got back from the supermarket and then I wanted to get the lineups in.

    I’ll probably go to the Starbucks, pat. Thank you. I have a few hours to kill while my daughter meets some potential roommates. :)

  40. Tara May 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    “””The “what have you done for me lately” mentality is almost frightening.”””

    If the ballplayers were making $100 K a year we would agree with you. The MLB players have to be held to a higher standard of production otherwise you get the entitlement, union slacker mentality of “if they are paying me this amount of salary, then that’s what I’m worth”. The MLB union protects the players salary regardless of productivity so it’s up to fans to keep these players feet to the fire. Tough on you if you can’t handle accountability.

  41. Coach6423 May 18th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    When did they throw at the Yankees last night?

  42. Fran (the original) May 18th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Trisha,
    Good post. I agree. :)

    Erica,
    My line-up thinking is the same as yours :)

  43. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Fran-

    Its the same one I did yesterday. I really liked it. LOL. I hope Girardi took note yesterday

  44. Trevor May 18th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    “# Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Mike is right – the Sox throw at the Yankees and the Yankees just sit back and take it.”

    That’s a bit surprising considering he usually doesn’t care about retaliation.

  45. z May 18th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    on Saturday, the Red Sox took 12 walks from the Tigers, struck out 15 Tigers hitters, and yet still lost the game.

    last night they hit 5 HRs, and still lost the game.

    two that got away for a team that can’t afford it.

  46. upstate kate May 18th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    the line up complaints did seem excessive yesterday, especially given all the injuries that Girardi had to work with.

  47. Trevor May 18th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    “# Coach6423 May 18th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    When did they throw at the Yankees last night?”

    They threw at Cervelli again. That’s probably who Mike is talking about. I don’t think they like him.

  48. gayle May 18th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    I personally would send down Logan and keep Golson. He gives us speed off the bench a nice threat to h ave and late replacement in OF again speed.

  49. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    “half the posters don?t even believe what they are saying outside of that moment, but they think it, they type it, they click ?submit? and everyone freaks out about it all over again.”

    You’re probably right about that. I guess I can understand more of the “at the moment” exposition than the premature funereal atmosphere that goes on with every lineup, every player who isn’t hitting, etc.

    Shame, the never-ending cycle happens because it is a forum. It’s just as valid to ask why the complainers can’t withhold complaining and sit there and say to themselves “I know we’re going to lose this game but I’ll just sit and let the people who are saying we’re going to win it, be wrong…” Of course the answer to that, I believe, is that positivity is a much more tranquil state and so the emotion that must come with negativity is hard to hold back. Just a thought.

    Again, and I understand it every time someone points it out, what someone posts is always fair game, and it goes both ways. There’s your catch-22.

  50. RayVT May 18th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Hello Trisha! Great Post! I must admit I have quite often been one who said Gardner would not succeed, but I was wrong.

  51. MTU (aka GBURL) May 18th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    z-

    The Sox are last in the AL in pitching. Dead last.

    That explains a lot.

  52. Fran (the original) May 18th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Doreen,

    Here is my line-up:

    Derek SS
    Gardner CF
    Tex 1B
    Alex 3B
    Robbie 2B
    Jorge DH
    Swisher RF
    Winn LF
    Cervelli C

    Thanks for hosting :)

  53. Bank North May 18th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Why would Papelbon purposely hit Cervelli in the 9th inning of a tie game?

    So that a ball in the gap can win the game?

    Cervelli is a singles hitter, you’d rather face a power hitter like Thames in that spot?

  54. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Trisha-

    We live in a world of instant gratification. 90% of the people absolutely freaking out last night aren’t people who post here regularly. They were watching the game. They didn’t like what they saw.. They let us all know. This isn’t a community for them. Its a venting ground.

    End of story

  55. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    G Love and Fran – :) Thanks.

  56. Jim May 18th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Didn’t Hughes go up and in on Pedroia in that long at bat?

  57. MTU (aka GBURL) May 18th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Erica-

    “Its a venting ground.”

    I thought that was Yellowstone NP. ;)

  58. Coach6423 May 18th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    They did not throw at Cervelli. He had ZERO control. I hate the Red Sox as much as anyone, but to think they threw at a singles hitter in tie game in the bottom of the ninth borders on lunacy.

  59. Bronx Jeers May 18th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    I don’t think Paps hit Cervelli on purpose with 2 outs to get to Thames that’s for sure.

    As great as Cervelli has been, he’s not the guy that can end the game with 1 swing. Well technically he can, but it’s not nearly as likely as Thames.

    I trust that Cervelli’s HBP is definitely one that Paps would want back.

  60. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    RayVt – thank you my friend.

    :)

  61. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Trevor May 18th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    ?# Coach6423 May 18th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    When did they throw at the Yankees last night??

    They threw at Cervelli again. That?s probably who Mike is talking about.

    ****************************
    I believe Cisco said after the game that he didn’t think it was intentional. He looked upset when it happened, but that’s understandable.

  62. ac1 May 18th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    paps did not throw at cervelli. it was obvious he just had no control.

  63. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Erica, I know you weren’t referring to me – thanks!

  64. Kevin May 18th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    No way does a game happen tonight…

    http://www.accuweather.com/us/.....hbhhour=13

  65. Outlawz May 18th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Francessa wants us to retaliate for all the HRs they hit.

    Don’t know why. Maybe we should make better pitchers.

  66. stuckey May 18th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Trisha said: “And no matter how many times they get it wrong, they always come back for more. THAT’S the frustrating part.”

    That’s an important point. It’ s not the complaining, it’s the apparent utter lack of a workable learning curve.

  67. upstate kate May 18th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    what I find frustrating is the either/or mentality. Phil or Joba, Cisco or Po etc.
    It reminds me of growing up and being asked Beatles or Stones? Why not enjoy both.
    Its a team, and everyone has something to contribute.
    I think Phil has made a great transition to the SR, I would like to see Joba get the same chance.
    I love the energy and youthful enthusiam Cervelli brings, but still appreciate the veteran presence of Posada.

  68. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    This guy is lucky he doesn’t play in NY, Boston, or Philly. As it is, sounds like the beginning of the end for him or the manager in Florida:

    “Tony Abreu lofted a bloop hit into short left field. Already hobbled, Ramirez accidentally booted the ball into the left-field corner. Two runners scored as Ramirez trotted after the ball. Abreu ended up on third, and an error was charged on the Florida shortstop.

    “I wasn’t trying to give up,” Ramirez said. “That was the hardest I could go after the ball.”

    Asked if he was at full speed on the play, Ramirez said on Tuesday: “I don’t know. It looked like it. That’s the example [Gonzalez] set with me. If you don’t hustle, hopefully, he does it with everybody.

    “It’s OK. He doesn’t understand that. He never played in the big leagues. That’s fine,” Ramirez said. “That’s the example that he set. It started with me. Let’s see how far it goes.”

    Ramirez added that he wasn’t mentally or physically ready to play on Tuesday afternoon”

  69. Pat M. May 18th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Betsy, at the outset Phil was regertering 95 with movement….The next inning I think it was Drew worked him for 9 pitches, but he made putty of Martinez with a beautiful change after dropping in some great curves…….

  70. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Erica, I definitely understand what you’re saying about the instant gratification society and that in itself is so sad. But I have to believe that it wasn’t just newbies that flipped out over the lineup. That’s all the time.

  71. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Last night was awful – the board really became a cesspool. These posters come, post during the game thread and then leave…..thank goodness.

  72. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    “Didn’t Hughes go up and in on Pedroia in that long at bat?”

    Yeah, but it was belt high to anybody else. :)

  73. RayVT May 18th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    I believe Dish Network broke the last straw with me last night. LOL! I was DVRing the game & was going to go back and zip thru it when I realized the recording stopped after 2 hrs and 10 mins. I quickly turned on the TV to ESPN & watched ARod’s blast live. Also, I checked my bank account & Dish upped my monthly rate $10/mo w/o notice. Not a good day! Hello DirecTV!

  74. stuckey May 18th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    “While I understand the frustration of “chicken littles” on this board. Aren’t they allowed to speak their opinions just like everyone else?”

    Yes.

    “I don’t like hearing the same 500 line up and injury complaints. But if you can give your opinion. They can give theirs.”

    Correct. And the opinion some of us are giving is the line-up bridgejumpers need to pay closer attention. They never seem to learn that more often than not, their fears are unnecessary.

  75. Gator May 18th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    “It’s OK. He doesn’t understand that. He never played in the big leagues. That’s fine,” Ramirez said. “That’s the example that he set. It started with me. Let’s see how far it goes.”

    ———————–

    ouch

  76. SullyLV May 18th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Trisha-Great post i agree with you 100%.I understand what Shame Spencer is saying but,it gets really annoying when you have to listen to a knucklehead complain yet again because a certain ballplayer couldn’t get a hit or make that pitch to help the team win.I don’t know of any ballplayer that gets a hit every time up or a pitcher that gets every player out.

  77. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Is the GTLU game still going?

    If so here’s my guess.

    Jeter SS
    Gardner CF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada DH
    Thames RF
    Cervelli C
    Winn LF

  78. Rob NY May 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Shame — Thanks for saying what you are. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s opinion, or if the view seems ridiculous, that doesn’t mean we have to throw our hands in the air and freak out over how someone could be so stupid as to come to the lohud with that.

    The perfect example of this attitude can be seen anytime someone comments on the lineup. Whenever that happens, the poster gets dog piled on and characterized as a complainer and a baseball illiterate because they condescend to think there is any other way to order the lineup except how Joe G decided to do it that day. That’s the one thing that makes me cringe every day when we get to the LINEUP post. Any lineup discussion is automatically dismissed.

  79. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Pat M, the long inning could have thrown Phil off – it happened in Fenway, but he bucked up there. I’m still sort of shocked, to be honest- I HATE the Sox and it bothers me (not because I’m upset at Phil) that Pedroia, Scutaro and Drew put such unbelievable at bats together. I thought that 5th inning was going to be a breeze, lol.
    What I would love to see is Phil hold the other team down after we have a big inning, but I guess that’s just part of growing up as a SP. At least he threw some good changes -he just has to have the confidence to throw it. I mean, isn’t that the point of having other pitches? To go to them when your main ones aren’t working?

  80. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Kate, I agree with you on Cervelli and Posada, and all of our other guys. And I too definitely appreciate the veteran presence Posada brings. I’m appreciating it a lot more this season than I did last season, especially because he and AJ are working as a team and the results are there.

    :)

  81. G. Love May 18th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Ray VT,

    You’re hardly one of the chief Gardner bashers in this forum so you don’t need to apologize.

    I don’t ever recall you telling the people in this blog that they were racists for wanting to see Brett succeed here like some “respected” posters have in the past. That’s the ugly that happens in this blog and from the looks of things, it appears to be over now that Brett is helping this team win and the cowards have knocked off the ugly accusations.

    He’s an exciting player and I enjoy watching the guy run just as much as I enjoy watching HR’s get launched into the sky.

    We want him to succeed since his speed becomes a major weapon that distracts pitchers into throwing meatballs or walking guys.

    I’m glad Girardi believes in him just as much as I’m glad he believed in Thames. Thames is hitting really well and I don’t think there’s a fastball he can’t get around on. He’s a great weapon for this team to have because he can take a heater and put it over the fence in any at bat.

    Last night he didn’t take the K against Bard into his at bat against Papelbum. He geared up, saw his pitch and deposited over the wall.

    Think about how people wanted him gone in the spring. You’d think he was this years Morgan Ensberg/Richie Sexson/Josh Phelps and we were just waiting for him to get waived.

    Right now, he looks like a good piece on this team who can hit lefties and turn on a fastball against anyone. His defense is atrocious, but when Grandy comes back, he’ll be needed less in the OF than he is now.

    Last night was a great moment for him and moments like that breed confidence for the whole team. We saw it happen last year. It’s gets contagious.

  82. Giuseppe Franco May 18th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    People lose more brain cells listening to Francessa than sniffing glue or paint thinner.

  83. Keeping it real May 18th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Cerevelli’s rookie status was called out of question last year. Both the #1 and #2 catchers being hurt, and he stepped in, and worked great with every pitcher. He has a ring to show for it.

    Leave Cerevelli alone, if only all the replacements could stepped in with his kind of results, in their positions, Yankees would sail to postseason

  84. z May 18th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    The truly frightening thing, then, for Boston is the fact that these are their guys for years to come. each one is signed to a long-term deal.

    They’ve rolled their dice, so to speak, and the house isn’t going to give them a re-roll.

    I’d feel comfortable w/Lester, and that’s about it.

    Beckett is mental case who’s also a health risk moving forward. If I had to win a Game 7, of course you’d consider throwing Beckett. Do you get to Game 7 though if he’s an erratic mess for 20% of his starts?

    Lackey has always been slightly-above pedestrian (the #s bear that out). He’s played on winning teams, but he’s not a strikeout/shutdown type guy. He also has a habit of showing-up his fielders — LAME.

    Dice-K? too easy.

    Looking long-term, what they’re seeing now is likely less aberration than worrisome future trend.

  85. Frank May 18th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Betsy-

    Do you over analyze everything in your life like this?

  86. MTU (aka GBURL) May 18th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Kate-

    I absolutely agree with your perception about the “either/or” mentality.

    Pitting one player against the other seems silly. They are all part of a team. We should wantas many of them to succeed as possible. :)

    Gotta run. Later.

  87. vblade May 18th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    I’m sure Hanley openly dissing his manager would get him back in the team’s good graces. /s

  88. Brandon's Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS believes in tasing fans that jump fences) May 18th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    IT wasn’t that serious, Hanley was really hurt. Although dissing the manager didn’t help. I think he dissed him b/c he pulled him off the field and embarassed him but Hanley has a history of this.

  89. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Erica -

    I understand it is a venting ground – I’ve used it as such at times, too. But it would be nice if some of the people who only come here to vent would also come to celebrate, and most times they do not.

    As soon as the Yankees started looking like they might lose last night, people came out of the woodwork to vent, but most of them didn’t bother to stick around or come back to say “whew, glad I was wrong, way to go, Yankees.” That’s what I don’t like.

    The “regulars” and even the semi-regulars do both. They kvetch and moan and groan, but they also hang around to celebrate the good things. :)

  90. Bronx Jeers May 18th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    I’m quite thick-skinned when it comes to the whiners in here but last night was particularly difficult to wade through.

    And it was a frustrating game at points but the best you can do is hope that people don’t feel the need to type in every random thought that pops into their ADD stricken mind.

  91. RL15 May 18th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Doreen,

    I did the CNJ to white plains drive yesterday. Not so bad.

    SS – Derek
    CF – GGBG
    1B – Tex
    3B – Mr. Clutch
    2B – Robbie
    DH – Jorgie
    RF – Thames
    C – Cervelli
    LF – Winn

    Thanks again,

  92. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Frank, I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I don’t want to get into it. The answer is actually yes, though :)

  93. SAS May 18th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Doreen,

    As long as you are set for the afternoon, I am going to vote for the School Budget. I should be home in about an hour if you have any White Plains questions for me.

  94. G. Love May 18th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Cue the Gammons article about how the Red Sox are in deep trade negotiations for the troubled Hanley Ramirez who clearly has worn out his welcome in Florida and needs a change in scenery to save the game of baseball.

  95. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Patrick,

    Yes, GTLU is still going on. Lineups accepted until 2:30. :)

  96. MTU (aka GBURL) May 18th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    GF-

    “People lose more brain cells listening to Francessa than sniffing glue or paint thinner.”

    Completely different kinds of smells.

    At least you can get high off the first 2. They have some value.

    Rotting garbage was never one of my favorites. You ? :)

  97. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Thanks, SAS :)

  98. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    BryanHoch Just got a copy of Bill Madden’s new Steinbrenner biography. Looks great so far.

  99. stuckey May 18th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Mark Melancon has pitched 18 ML innings. In that time he’s given up 15 hits and has an ERA of 4.42.

    Those numbers will get you pretty much permanent gainful employment in the middle to back end of a major league bullpen for most, if not all of the league’s 30 teams.

    He hasn’t been hit hard (at all). He’s had command issues, with brings up back to the first point.

    He’s pitched 18 ML innings, hardly any of them with any regularity.

    People judging his ability now are doing so foolishly.

  100. Shame Spencer May 18th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    stucky – you said:

    “That’s an important point. It’ s not the complaining, it’s the apparent utter lack of a workable learning curve.”

    So I get it, its the repetition which is annoying. But doesnt the same logic tell us that repeating the same logical arguments to the most illogical posters is just as fruitless?

    It isnt that I dont understand the frustration by people that really do understand that this is a 162 game season, I really do sympathize. But at the same time, the conversation deteriorates and becomes stale very quickly when all people do is yell about no one understanding baseball. Everyone that comes here regularly knows the personalities around here pretty well.. can’t we treat it like Thanksgiving dinner and just leave well enough alone sometimes?

  101. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    “I HATE the Sox and it bothers me (not because I’m upset at Phil) that Pedroia, Scutaro and Drew put such unbelievable at bats together. I thought that 5th inning was going to be a breeze, lol.”

    Betsy,

    I think the problem was that he didn’t throw enough changeups! :)

  102. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Doreen-

    I am not saying I find that behavior acceptable. However, it is their right to do it

  103. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Thank you Sully.

    :)

  104. Tyler May 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    lol too funny betsy. I thought Phil looked alright. Obviously didn’t have his best stuff from the get-go. He had trouble putting away Drew as early as the 1st inning. Battled pretty well though, attacked the zone. Too much cutters definetely especially on that one on the inside part of the plate. Leftys crush that. Take it from a former switch hitter they will take that pitch out all day. Overall, Nice Effort though.
    Tood bad the pen couldnt hold it and get him to 6-0

  105. z May 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    What I’m getting at:

    Yanks – worried about 2nd lefty in the pen, bench strength

    Boston – worried about everything outside of Youkilis and Pedroia

    Let the complainers complain while everyone else enjoys the ride.

  106. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    “SJ you do it more than anyone and if makes me wonder if you subconsciously are still carrying that Posada torch from last season so that you can’t wait to find something wrong with Cervelli and point it out.”

    Weren’t you complaining about armchair psychologists recently?

    If that was someone else, all apologies.

    Shame Spencer, great post at 12:57.

  107. NYYROC May 18th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Betsy @ 1:35. Last night was the first time all year that Hughes didn’t minimize the damage. He’s put up 0s after big innings in his other starts. He’s had one bad inning out of 44. I know you are a fan, just saying, he’s doing great!

  108. Shame Spencer May 18th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    stuckey.. sorry i keep getting your name wrong.. my ‘e’ button is a little ‘stuckey’ bahahahaha. ok, enough bad jokes.

  109. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    “IT wasn’t that serious, Hanley was really hurt”

    Brandon,

    The excuse that he was hurt is garbage. He ran hard to try to make the catch, and after he booted it, he barely jogged after the ball. I have seen people walk faster than that. You would never see Jeter do anything like that, and he plays hurt all the time. Cano had a few lack of hustle plays in ’08 that were nothing compared to Ramirez, but fans were ready to run him out of town then. Ramirez is lucky that he plays in a town that cares very little about pro baseball.

    If he was hurt, it was because of a ball he hit off of his leg, a bruise, which should have little to nothing to do with how much you can hustle after a ball.

  110. G. Love May 18th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    I really hope that Beckett doesn’t play beanball again tonight. I don’t think the Yankees are going to take it like gentlemen tonight if it happens again with all the injuries on the team.

    The last thing we want to see is a bench clearing brawl, since we know Boston loves that kind of garbage and will attempt to use it to inspire themselves.

    I also don’t want CC up on the mound thinking he needs to retaliate if Beckett is pulling his punk routine.

    Our pen needs the rest.

  111. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    This is just a fun team to watch. A family of Yankees that each have each others’ backs. All started by Gardy, and finished by Thamesie! What a great win!

    As for all the complainers and whiners about lineups, lack of team heart, Erica is 100% right, they use the Lohud as a venting ground. And I have no right to complain about their complaining, as I use Lohud as a venting ground often as well, but about other things.

  112. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    I’ll trade Jeter straight up for Hanley.

  113. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Erica -

    I know. And I’m being wistful. That’s all. :)

  114. Gator May 18th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Francessa reading the Hanley quotes… man that situation is a mess.

    Wes Helms asked him to apologized and he refused.

  115. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    I was complaining about arm chair managers lately. Maybe that’s what you’re thinking of.

  116. Mike May 18th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Hey I was just searching the web did you guys know there’s a book out on A-Rod called A-Rod Too! stating he’s dating this women to cover up being gay. WOW!!!!

  117. Tim May 18th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Melancon came up a couple of weeks ago and gave up a 3-R HR to Konerko.

    Can’t do that if he wants to stick up here.

    He’ll get another chance, but he can’t be hitting guys and giving up hits if he wants to stay up here.

  118. upstate kate May 18th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    CR9
    your best post ever :)

  119. stuckey May 18th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    “Congratulations to you all who have the most firm grasp on the game of baseball. I’m sure you go to bed much easier at night knowing that you are smarter and more baseball savy than other posters.”

    You’ve utterly missed the point. Some people here are looking for compelling DISCUSSION about the game of baseball and are actively promoting the sort of interaction they’re looking for.

    I don’t happen to see the value of mostly drive-by whining that does nothing to promote interaction.

    You’re barking up a misplaced tree, but at least you’re engaging (well, until this ill-conceived snark-fest) in an exchange of ideas.

    “I’m sorry for wishing that not only would the “Chicken Littles” of Lohud calm down but that the know-it-alls would do the same. I just think both sides perpetually look foolish.”

    You’re argument looses a little steam when the people you try to dismiss as “know-it-alls” are factually correct much more often than the “Chicken littles”. What you’re doing is placing all “opinions” on an equal plane, as if evaluation and comparing and contrasting isn’t easy enough to do.

    I don’t GET how fans can watch a game, and hit a rest button every day, as if last night, last week, last month, and last season never happened. How they can watch the Yankees and completely fail to process and consider that the last 4 or 5 times the bottom of the line-up looked like it did, the Yankees didn’t have some of their best offensive games of the year.

    If someone would like to answer that question for me, I’d be glad to see one.

    Until then, I’m going to continue to point out that these people are (much) more often wrong, than they are right.

    Perhaps 1 or 2 of them will LEARN, and then the quality of the discussion here will be elevated just a little bit more.

    I have to tell you though, this strikes me as somewhat an odd cause to stake ground on.

  120. UnKnown May 18th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    GTLU

    Jeter SS
    Gardner CF
    Tex DH
    Alex 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada C
    Thames RF
    Miranda DH
    Winn LF

    Wow what a game last night. CC lets finish them tonight untill Aug. 6th, I believe.

  121. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    RL15 -

    How did you go?

    I was going to go NJTP to GSP to NYThruway over TPZ then the CWE. But my step-dad recommended NJTP to 9W/Palisades Parkway to TPZ. I’ve done the former coming back, never done the latter at all.

    Figured today was as good a day to try it – I’m leaving myself 2 and a half hours to get there because of the rain.

  122. UnKnown May 18th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Sorry I want Miranda at 1B.

    My bad, Tex the DH and Miranda at 1B. Thanks Doreen.

  123. Rich in NJ May 18th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    They need to limit Melancon to one inning outings until he gains his confidence.

  124. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    It’s tough to deal with the game thread when it goes completely loco like it did last night if you’re also trying to commune with other regulars and perhaps enjoy the fresh insights of non-regulars — I get that.

    But it’s also kind of funny, in a perverse way, to see the blog explode in FILTH AND FURY when the Yankees fall behind in a shocking way, such as they did last night. Some of it comes from trolls waiting in the weeds, I think, some from venters, some from regulars… kind of mass performance art.

    Over 1600 comments in the game thread last night… but trolls and negativity are killing LoHud!

  125. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Thanks Kate. The best part about watching these Yankees, as opposed to Kevin Brown/Randy Johnson Yankees (aside from winning), is that these guys are one giant family. To steal the TV show’s name, A Band of Brothers!!!

  126. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Trisha, thanks and I apologize, it was armchair managers that you mentioned recently.

  127. z May 18th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Fredi Gonzalez: “You wish they were all like Derek Jeter, but unfortunately they’re not.”

    +1 for you, sir.

  128. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    CR-9, I apologize to you for that post from someone who is obviously severely unbalanced because no even quasi-normal person could write something that hateful. Obviously I will now email chad.

  129. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    CR-9, I apologize to you for that post from someone who is obviously severely unbalanced because no even quasi-normal person could write something that hateful. Obviously I will now email chad.

  130. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Nick, not a problem.

  131. stuckey May 18th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    “So I get it, its the repetition which is annoying. But doesnt the same logic tell us that repeating the same logical arguments to the most illogical posters is just as fruitless?”

    One holds out hope that the answer is no.

    “But at the same time, the conversation deteriorates and becomes stale very quickly when all people do is yell about no one understanding baseball. Everyone that comes here regularly knows the personalities around here pretty well.. can’t we treat it like Thanksgiving dinner and just leave well enough alone sometimes?”

    First of all, you’re overreacting. I made one post (after about 7 to days of not being around at all, much less to do anything specific) about the understanding baseball knowledge thing.

    There are posters here who will lodge three of four similar comments here in minutes during game threads. To make an issue of THIS so stridently seems misplaced.

  132. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    NYYRoc, I’m definitely not criticizing Phil – it was just frustrating to watch! Then again, per Phil, it was frustrating for him on the mound as well, lol

  133. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    If I were a young hotshot SS, I would ask any writer doing a feature on me to not use any comparisons to Derek Jeter.

    It’s a curse. Remember the stories on Jose Reyes? :P

  134. vblade May 18th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    You know the team is really good when the trolling only consists of personal attacks and the occasional “your team got lucky” argument. It’s like those perennial baddies that fail over and over again.

  135. MIke RI May 18th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    It was an awesome win last night . . . However . .we have another one tonight . .We must remain focused !..

  136. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Yoy have to be thoroughly depraved to disparage someone’s deceased parent and to tell someone to die.

  137. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    CR9-

    I e-mailed Chad on your behalf too. This is ridiculous

  138. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Fredi Gonzalez sounds like he’s handling it just right…….

  139. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Thanks, Unknown. I usually catch those things, but my mind is wandering a bit today. :)

  140. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    No game tonight

  141. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    CR, I am so sorry you have to deal with this sicko; if I could, I would e-mail Chad as well. I will do so later.

    Hugs to you!!!

  142. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Oh good, it was rained out?

  143. Jerkface May 18th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Francisco Cervelli’s OBP is higher than Ramiro Pena’s OPS.

  144. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    I don’t know what this does to the rotation, but the Yankees pen could use a rest and the players could use the time to heal

  145. z May 18th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    looks like Beckett’s going to have to hit the desk clerk then.

    tough night to be a desk clerk.

  146. Ben May 18th, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    where did you hear rain out?

  147. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Betsy,

    It’s 5 hours before game time. I don’t think it’s been called. And I don’t think that’s the real SJ.

  148. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Betsy, the game wasn’t officially rained out yet

    SJ44 is just flashing his meteorology skills :-)

  149. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Trisha,

    The only person on here who is trying to make this a Cervelli v. Posada thing with me is you.

    Here is a simple fact…..Jorge Posada is a more experienced catcher than Francisco Cervelli.

    That doesn’t make Cervelli a bad catcher. He is however, inexperienced.

    Part of being inexperienced and learning on the job, which Cervelli is, comes in the way you handle a pitcher during a game.

    A more experienced catcher asserts his desires to throw a certain pitch in a certain count in a big situation. That comes from observing what has gone on in a game, what stuff the pitcher has, what a hitter is looking for, etc.

    It could be a tipoff as small as the catcher noticing the hitter opening up on the inner half. Meaning, he could be sitting on a cutter. Which, FWIW, Drew was doing. That’s why Pat M correctly saw that Drew was vulnerable for either a CB or a changeup away.

    You can’t substitute for experience. Last night, like it or not, was a learning experience for both Cervelli and Hughes.

    That’s why those who believe its time to put Posada out to catching pasture need to take a bit of a deep breath. You can’t substitute experience and at this point, Cervelli isn’t ready to be an everyday catcher for the Yankees. Last night was an example of why.

  150. Trevor May 18th, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    I don’t see anywhere that the game was called. It’s suppose to clear by game time.

  151. JM May 18th, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Looking at weather.com, I would be really surprised if they get this game in.

  152. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    No big deal! Just ignore it!

    SJ44

    No game tonight? Is that for sure?

  153. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    The 2:06pm post is not me. The 2:11 pm post is.

    We have had another impersonator on here all day today.

  154. CountryClub May 18th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    I’m a little late, but I’ll join the crowd and say get rid of Logan! The fact that he can be optioned to AAA makes this a no brainer. He must have pics of Girardi or Cash.

  155. joelh May 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    It’s nasty right now in the city … anybody knows if it’s supposed to get better by game time?

  156. Jerkface May 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    There are no convenient times to get the game in the future, unless the yankees want to play 30 games in a row including a 5 game set vs boston.

    They could do a mutual offday or double up in their 4 game set or 3 game set in sept (my choice, because the 40 man will be in play)

  157. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Good post SJ44, I agree 100%

  158. RL15 May 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    doreen,

    I used the Palisades, it’s a much nicer drive. At the right time of day, the fastest route is GWB up the Degan, but you never know crossing the GWB.

    RL15

  159. Jerkface May 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    The way to tell if its real SJ44 or fake SJ44 is word count.

  160. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Rays are up 1-0, bases loaded, 2 outs. Aybar down 0-2, called out on a close strike on the inside. I would think you would have to swing at anything around the plate. Oh well! Score still 1-0.

  161. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    SJ44

    I dont think Trisha is making anything into a Cervelli vs. Posada thing.

    Posada has been our leader behind the plate for over a decade, has 5 world series rings. I just think she is super high on Cervelli. And to be honest, who wouldn’t be. Like that Jeter commercial, Cervelli’s got an edge!!!

  162. Bronx Jeers May 18th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    So I’m reading Bill Madden’s Steinbrenner biography.

    Nick,

    You’ll never believe who went to the same military school as George and at around the same time?

    Hint: In games lake last night, he always helps us find our way!

  163. RayVT May 18th, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    G. Love May 18th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Thanks G Love! I like Gardner on the team, but thought he had too many holes in his swing to be successful. I would never call someone a racist on a blog for chosing Gardy or any other player. I’m glad I missed those.

    If Gardner keeps this up, it will make Crawford more difficult. I believe they will still, but it will be interesting.

  164. sevrox May 18th, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Hanley Ramirez would look just fine in Yankee pinstripes.

  165. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    The 2:06pm post is not me. The 2:11 pm post is.

    We have had another impersonator on here all day today.

    Good post SJ44, I agree 100%

    —-

    Whew, luckily I was complimenting your 2:11 post :)

  166. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Jerkface,

    Bingo! The bad trolls haven’t figured that out yet. lol

  167. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    CR9, your restraint is very admirable.

    There was a whole long discussion about how to handle trolls of various kinds, I won’t rehash that, but I think your way is a good one.

    Tonight is going to be a very, very important L :shock: ST episode, I think (hope?).

    Or nothing much will happen as they put all the pieces in place for Sunday night… I don’t know.

    This is one time when my time zone is good, I can enjoy tonight’s Yankee game (hopefully) and then watch L :shock: ST at 9:00… barring a 5+ hour game.

  168. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Hanley compared to Jeter?

    Hanley’s a legit superstar right now, a young JOse Reyes he is not.

  169. murphydog May 18th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Dr. Anthony Galea, of Toronto, is named in a federal criminal complaint filed Tuesday in Buffalo.

    The complaint charges the doctor with lying to federal officials, smuggling, unlawful distribution of HGH, introducing the unapproved drug actovegin into interstate commerce and conspiracy to defraud the United States.

    According to court documents, Galea’s clients include at least three National Football League players. One allegedly had two HGH kits delivered to his home while another received actovegin injections.

    Galea also treated major league baseball players and pro golfers, but the charges pertain to the NFL players. No athletes were named.

    http://wcbstv.com/sports/nfl.p.....00798.html

    So, is this finally the end of the A-Rod – Galea brouhaha? I have no source to suggest otherwise. Thus, it could well be that a deal is already worked between the Government and Galea to resolve any and all, known or unknown charges and end this thing.

  170. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    If the Game is rained out, but Girardi submits a lineup, today’s GTLU will count.

    If the Game is rained out but Girardi has not submitted a lineup, I will not count today’s GTLU submissions.

  171. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Sometimes I wonder if the fake SJ44 is the real one.

    It must be hard to have so many questions about ones existance

  172. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Thanks, RL15. Appreciate your input. :)

  173. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Lost just sort of ended a la that Monty Pyton skit?

    No answers, no plot resolution, just a cut to black.

  174. Trevor May 18th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Francesa trying to sell Met fans that they could sweep the Yankees this weekend. :lol:

  175. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    “There are no convenient times to get the game in the future, unless the yankees want to play 30 games in a row including a 5 game set vs boston.”

    I could definitely live with another 5 game sweep of Boston. :) That sweep in ’06 was the non-playoff high point of my baseball watching life!

    Depending on how heavy the rain is, and field conditions, they should be able to get the game in. Looks like most of the heaviest stuff is past, and the back end of the system is moving through Trenton now.

  176. it's true May 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Hanley Ramirez is a hack at SS, certainly not the heir to Jeter.

    He’d likely b and moan if the Yanks DH’d him or tried to convert him into an outfielder.

    Plus, you’re not getting him w/out giving up Phil +.

    Screw that.

  177. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    SJ,

    Faking a long post attributable to you would require too much thinking. Their brains would explode from overexertion.

  178. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Sometimes I wonder if the fake SJ44 is the real one.

    It must be hard to have so many questions about ones existance

    —-

    We are in the Matrix

  179. murphydog May 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    “Hanley’s a legit superstar right now, a young JOse Reyes he is not.”

    You can’t “dis” Lupica’s special friend, Jose, like that :)

  180. Rob NY May 18th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Patrick– After all the time invested in the lost series it would be a SICK joke to cut to black. Thankfully the creators have said they won’t do that because their show needs to end with answers.

  181. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    If a rainout means Hughes vs. Santana Sunday night, that’s kind of cool.

    But CC vs. Santana would be cool too, and sponsored by Subway.

    It’s you-know-who big!

    I vote no rainout, baseball gods.

  182. Tim May 18th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Hanley would never act like that with guys like A-Rod and Mariano in the fold.

    Hanley also cried at his ROY press conference thanking Girardi for helping him.

    Bring him aboard.

    Miranda, Horne, and Heathcott for Hanley.

  183. murphydog May 18th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    “Sometimes I wonder if the fake SJ44 is the real one.

    It must be hard to have so many questions about ones existance”

    Did you hear the one about the two dyslexic theologians debating the existence of Dog?

  184. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Hanley Ramirez is a hack at SS, certainly not the heir to Jeter.

    Haha ok boss. I’d trade Jeter straight up for Hanley right now and Derek is my favorite Yankee of all time. Ask Jerkface how much I love DJ, I defend him nonstop.

  185. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Miranda, Horne, who isn’t even pitching after another surgery, and Heathcot for Hanley?

    Sniffling glue isn’t good for you son!

  186. z May 18th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    This last season of Lost has definitely made sticking w/it worthwhile.

    Instead of just meandering along, it’s moved forward on all levels.

  187. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Patrick– After all the time invested in the lost series it would be a SICK joke to cut to black. Thankfully the creators have said they won’t do that because their show needs to end with answers.

    Hey I’d hate it too, I like Lost. But I can appreciate how hilarious it would be if the writers just end the show with no explanation. It would be the best troll of all time

  188. Wave Your Hat May 18th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Cervelli-Thames-Winn-Pena is a very weak bottom 4 of the lineup, last night’s results notwithstanding. If they played that lineup very often, the Yanks’ run scored average would drop a lot.

    However, they don’t play it often, last night’s game was the first time all four started in the lineup together.

    In fact, Cervelli, Pena and Winn have started together only twice.

    So I don’t think you can conclude that lineup will produce from game results, although fortunately for the Yanks both times the Yankees played that lineup the Yanks have done well.

    I’m glad the Yanks popped the Sox last night, but we are only 4-5 over the last 9 games. Granderson, Swisher and Posada can’t get back soon enough as far as I’m concerned.

  189. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    This is not a spoiler, but… the major theme of L :shock: ST is redemption for all these flawed characters.

    So I’m predicting that the major reveal of the series finale will be that Dr. Jack Shepherd, tortured Redsocks fan, will be a Yankees fan in the ALT-X timeline.

  190. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    If the Yankees traded Jeter for Hanley, who plays 3B? :P

    “Hanley would never act like that with guys like A-Rod and Mariano in the fold.” Why is he acting like that now?

  191. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    Miranda, Horne, who isn’t even pitching after another surgery, and Heathcot for Hanley?

    Sniffling glue isn’t good for you son!

    Dreaming about Hanley is just that, a dream. In this dreamworld lets say the Yanks decide Jetes is done (he’s not). They would probably have to trade Montero and Hughes or something equally obscene to even pique Florida’s interest.

  192. it's true May 18th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Ramirez is a great hitter, hell damn near preternatural.

    I’m saying he’s not the long-term answer at short, and w/Robbie at 2nd and A-Rod at 3rd where would he play?

    Would it be worth unloading all that talent for a piece that fits oddly?

  193. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Nick

    One can never know if it will be a 5 hour game or not with these 2 teams! THANK GOD Thamesie just ended it quickly last night so I didnt have to be nervous for any more extra innings.

    LOST, Im hoping it will be an explanatory episode, but it’ll probably just be a setup for the finale. I personally just CANT WAIT for the ’24′ finale!!

    As for hurtful comments, I dont care about hurtful comments made towards me! I’ve got thick skin! And I bring it on myself with my sometimes obnoxious behavior! Also, I stupidly gave out the personal information!

  194. Joe from Long Island May 18th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    murphydog – thanks for the latest chapter in Crime Stories :)

  195. Rob NY May 18th, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Would you Hanley fans start a trade for him with Joba and Montero? I think I might have to do it. Thinking a Jesus, Joba, Man-Ban type thing.

  196. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Nick,

    Incredible idea, that would be the greatest thing ever. The ending of Lost becomes a giant Red Sox bashing session. Jack puts on a Yankee hat and all of a sudden Desmond and Penny morph into Jay-z and Alicia Keys who then start singing Empire state of mind. Widmore pulls his mask off and is actually George Steinbrenner.

  197. kd May 18th, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    it’s true- left field

  198. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Erica,

    Nah, not true. We have a segment of children on here who have significant mental problems.

    The kind of folks who trail what I write, write awful things about CR9, etc.

    Why would someone care what I write about on a Yankee blog. In the grand scheme of things, its meaningless.

    Its funny because these folks would never have the courage to do half this stuff if not for being on the internet.

    It gives them a feeling of power. When in fact the only “feeling” they have is soiling themselves as they write this nonsense.

  199. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    it is just me or does defeating the red sox make the following day just
    a lot better?

    i’m having a great tuesday and i owe it all to the Yankees victory last night

  200. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Joba & Hughes will be looking at some serious coin pretty soon. Isn’t that anti-marlins?

  201. Pat M. May 18th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Tricia, I wasn’t ragging on Cervelli at all…….My point was neither
    Hughes or Cervelli noticed JD had altered his feet in the box, was sitting on that pitch and location……A veteran doesn’t miss this……The fault goes on both guys due to inexperience……Boston’s a-6 are good hitters who have been around the block more than once

  202. z May 18th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    you KNOW Theo is already on the phone.

  203. LGY May 18th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    You guys and gals want to know if they will play tonight? I have a very scientific way to figure it out.

    If it is raining too hard for baseball the dog will not stop to do her business in her desperate attempt to pull me back to the apartment so she does not get too wet.

    If she is willing to stop and let nature do its thing, there will be baseball tonight!

    This method truly is foolproof (just not sure if me or the dog is the fool :???: )

  204. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Bronx Jeers: I have a guess about who you’re talking about… does this have something to do with looking into the abyss of a 2-run deficit in the 9th inning?

  205. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 18th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    GTLU is now closed for today. Thanks to all who played.

    I’m not sure whether I’m hoping there is a game or not. But I am hoping for a lineup, so all this work isn’t for naught! :)

    Catch you all later.

  206. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Given the Marlins needs, if they were to ever trade a Hanley Ramirez, you are probably looking at a Granderson, Montero, and Chamberlain, and one other prospect deal. That’s if you want to keep Hughes out of the deal.

    The Marlins don’t have a lot of catching depth in their organization. Aside from Mike Stanton, their OF depth isn’t great either.

    The Yankees would probably move Hanley to CF since most feel that’s where he will eventually end up before his career is over.

    As far as attitude, he and Gonzalez hate each other. Have for years.

    Its one reason why Gonzalez almost got fired at the end of last season.

    I think he’s going to have a hard time getting through this season.

    They will fire Gonzalez before they trade Hanley, IMO.

  207. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
    it is just me or does defeating the red sox make the following day just
    a lot better?

    i?m having a great tuesday and i owe it all to the Yankees victory last night

    *************************
    I know what you mean-and I think a walkoff win against the Red Sox makes it that much better. :)

  208. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    you KNOW Theo is already on the phone.

    He’s tried in the past to get Hanley back. I doubt he has the ammunition to pull of a trade for one of the 5 best players in the game.

  209. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    I said I would have preferred Po to catch Phil before yesterday’s game…….took some flack for that, I believe :)

  210. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Cleveland ties up TB 1-1.

  211. rodg12 May 18th, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    GTLU
    Jeter SS
    Gardner CF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada DH
    Thames RF
    Cervelli C
    Winn LF

    Thx Doreen!!!

  212. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    There is a ‘weather update’ link at yankees.com and they also have some type of twitter update about it, if you’re into that kind of thing. Latest update is very informative:

    “The Yankees are continuing to monitor the weather today. Please check back for status updates. about 2 hours ago”

  213. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    SJ44,

    Yeah that sounds like a fair deal, but the Marlins would never do it unless the Yankees pick up Granderson’s full contract.

    Honestly, Hanley is bigger than his manager, Florida will have no problem firing Gonzalez. Kind of sad actually but Hanley is a superstar (albeit, an immature one).

    I think you’re probably right about Hanley eventually playing CF, but to be fair, he’s been average at SS for the last few years.

  214. mick May 18th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    For the uninformed: This is how a good team becomes great: In times of injury the utility players step up.
    It is essential for success, heck even .500 ball in those times is successful. Sure the pitching will carry you but guys like Pena, Cervelli, et. al have a way of playing over their heads when they are on a great team, which this is.

    Hell we are the World Champions, some of you forget that.

    P.S…Isn’t Pena hitting over .300 his past 20-30 AB’s? I’ll look it up myself cause few respond to positives in here.

  215. Josh May 18th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    I’d do Montero-Chamberlain-Granderson.

    Montero’s loss if off-set because we have Romine
    Granderson’s bat would be replaced by Crawford this winter
    If Joba is merely a reliever in their mind, then his value decreases as well.

    So it would be Romine, Crawford, Hanley vs. Montero/Granderson.

    I think that is a fair trade for both parties. We get one of the top 5 players in baseball who is still in his 20s, a legit 5-tool player. They get a stud catching/1B prospect, a stud reliever, and a pretty good CF who can’t hit lefties but will hit for power.

  216. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    I just realized, we dont have to face Price, he’s pitching today!!!

  217. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    FWIW, Hanley and Jeter and Arod are very friendly.

    Nothing to do with any deal in the works, just sayin’.

    I don’t see the Marlins trading Hanley because they aren’t sold on Gonzalez.

    If its an either or thing, they will fire the manager before trading their best player.

  218. Alex May 18th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Granderson/Joba/Montero would be fair

    Don’t think the Marins would do it though

  219. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Forget Hanley…..I would never make that deal anyway. Hughes is a deal-breaker and I’m not trading Montero and Chamberlain. Forget Granderson as well. I don’t normally engage in trade talk like this because it is all pie in the sky speculation.

  220. Carl May 18th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    How about Boone Logan and we’ll let them borrow Tex for the month of April for Hanley.

  221. mick May 18th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Given the Marlins needs, if they were to ever trade a Hanley Ramirez, you are probably looking at a Granderson, Montero, and Chamberlain, and one other prospect deal. That’s if you want to keep Hughes out of the deal.
    ==========================================
    I would never make that deal and I highly doubt Cash would either. Too many reasons why.

  222. Spyder May 18th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    I’d have no problem getting rid of Granderson in that deal, and would reluctantly give up Montero.

    Giving up Joba on top of all that would hurt though

  223. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    There is a ?weather update? link at yankees.com and they also have some type of twitter update about it, if you?re into that kind of thing. Latest update is very informative:

    ?The Yankees are continuing to monitor the weather today. Please check back for status updates. about 2 hours ago?

    **************************

    :lol:

  224. Steve May 18th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Nobody mentions Royce Ring who impressed Girardi / Eiland in March and was one of the very last cuts. He has a very unorthodox delivery which can baffle many hitters.

  225. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    rodg12-

    I wanted to wish you lots of luck (but not too much!) against Erica’s Avengers this week

  226. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    There is a ?weather update? link at yankees.com and they also have some type of twitter update about it, if you?re into that kind of thing. Latest update is very informative:

    ?The Yankees are continuing to monitor the weather today. Please check back for status updates. about 2 hours ago?
    ***********

    Thats about as heartwarming as “Thank you for continuing to hold. Your call is very important to us”

  227. Sports Geek May 18th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Doreen GTLU.. Thanks

    SS – Jeter
    CF – Gardner
    1B – Tex
    3B – A-Rod
    2B – Cano
    DH – Posada
    RF – Thames
    C – Cervelli
    LF – Winn

  228. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    I wouldn’t do it either mick.

    Just sayin’ that’s what it would take to get a player of Hanley’s talent.

  229. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Looks like I fell for the imposter……..I was hoping it was true, lol

  230. Don May 18th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    I feel like it is a waste to do GTLU for a game that is going to be rained out

    oh, what the hell.

    Jeter SS
    Gardner CF
    Tex 1B
    ARod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada DH
    Thames LF
    Winn RF
    Cervelli C

  231. mick May 18th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    Not saying that quantity equals quality, SJ, but sometimes the spreads of talent in a 4 for 1 deal overwhelm the acquisition of one superstar and undermines the team concept as well.

  232. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Yeah nobody would do that deal for Hanley.

    But I must admit, he’s one of the players not on the Yankees that I really like and wish was on our team.

    Same group as Joe Mauer, Albert Pujols, Chase Utley, etc. Also I want Ichiro even though he’s not as good as the other guys :) He’s just too awesome

  233. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Erin-Since I recorded the game last night, I could not help but watch the bottom of the 9th several times.

    Dumb Nomar just about talked over the pitch to Thames. Not sure if you saw the game on ESPN like I did.

    What a pleasure seeing the sox closer walk off the field, slowly put his jacket on and leave the dugout, LOL

  234. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    GTLU Closed at 2:30

  235. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    As far as Melancon….

    I’m hoping he gets the call and they give him a shot.

    At some point, you have to find out if his skills translate to his projection at the big league level.

    This is as good a time as any to find out.

    If he can come up here and pitch well, the Yankees fill an important need.

    If he isn’t what’s advertised, he becomes a trade chip for a part that fills a need.

    Might as well find out now because these guys can’t stay prospects forever.

    I’m hoping he comes up here and pitches well enough to stay. Another good young arm in the pen would be welcome.

  236. Daydream Believer May 18th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    insane pie in the sky trade thought:

    if the Marlins want Phil, kick it up to blockbuster levels and work on a Josh Johnson & Hanley Ramirez for Phil, Granderson, Montero & diamond-in-the-rough prospect.

  237. Pat M. May 18th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    In closing so there is no misunderstanding about the Cerveilli issue which gets much playe here……Remember that the combined ages of Hughes & Cervelli is only about 8 years ( TOTAL ) from Jorge Posada’s age…..Much to be learned by those two ……No blame

  238. mick May 18th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    A player like Mauer shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as a Hanley Ramirez.
    Pujols as well.

    They bring more to the table, a winning attitude, than a whiner.

  239. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    I don’t know who David Huff is, but he’s doing a fine job wiggling off the hook against the Rays. Still tied at 1.

  240. Jerkface May 18th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    If the Yankees traded for Ichiro I’d be super psyched. He is one of my all-time favorite players and his choice before he extended with Mariners was either NY or Seattle.

    The problem is that once Swisher and Granderson get healthy we wouldn’t really have room for him (though getting Ichiro would make the rotating DH plausible >:) ) DH swish , play an outfield of Gardner-Granderson-Ichiro.

    He’d hit #2 or leaderoff. Would crush the RF porch.

    Ichiro :x

  241. mick May 18th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Anybody know who is going for TB on Wed.-Thurs in da Bronx?

  242. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....r_cur.html

    Now this is good news……hurry back, Grandy!

  243. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    mick May 18th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
    Anybody know who is going for TB on Wed.-Thurs in da Bronx?
    ***********

    I know its not Matt Garza

  244. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    mick,

    No question about it.

    The Marlins aren’t going to trade Hanley.

    Funny story…..

    Theo Epstein called Mike Hill, the Marlins GM last year to talk about making a minor deal….

    In the course of the conversation he told him he was prepared to blow him away with an offer for Hanley.

    Mike laughed and told him not to bother, they have no intentions of trading him.

    He can be difficult and there is no question, he would be different with a veteran laden team.

    However, for the Marlins to trade Hanley would cause a revolt in South Florida.

    Not exactly what you are looking for when you are building a 650 million dollar, publicly financed stadium.

  245. m May 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Cursed espn cross-sport power rankings.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....page=cspr/

  246. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Carl Pavano did not have a good day :-(

  247. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Yanks will face Wade Davis and Shields this week. Probably the two Rays starters that the Yanks hitters have the best chance against.

  248. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    mick-

    Wed is Davis vs Burnett

    Thurs is Shields vs Andy

  249. qiantom May 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Anybody looked at TB’s batting averages? It’s a Mendoza lineup.

  250. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    I believe Shields is going……maybe Davis?

  251. joelh May 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    When is Hanley up for free agency?

    SJ, why wouldn’t you make that deal? Because of Jeter?

  252. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    I go to a little secret sushi place that Ichiro heard about and visited.

    They were very excited after it happened.

  253. z May 18th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    It looks like it won’t be long before the Rays bench B.J. Upton and bring up Desmond Jennings.

    After a decent start this season, Upton is actually making 2009 look like a stellar year. He is completely lost at the plate.

  254. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    I think Wade Davis and James Shields are the Tampa starters for Wednesday and Thursday.

  255. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Pat M, good points. I’m as guilty as anyone – you forget that Phil is 23 and just expect him to pitch like a veteran.

  256. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Nick,

    Excited after your visit or Ichiro’s.? I’m guessing its the former.

  257. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Is CC going for the all-time record of scheduled starts in games shortened, delayed, cancelled, or threatened by rain? This is getting ridiculous. Why can’t they have Vazquez scheduled on the once every 5th day rain game?

  258. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Carl Pavano did not have a good day :-(

    I really enjoy seeing or reading about Pavano getting hammered by any team in the majors.
    HAHA

  259. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    I understand about restraint when it comes to trolls but to me someone’s parents are sacred ground, someone’s deceased parents even moreso. If it happens again I would probably respond again.

    *************************
    SJ I understand what you’re saying. I’m sure Jorge made the same kinds of mistakes when he was training under Girardi. It happens. I’m certainly not ready to put Posada out to pasture. I am ready to see Cervelli get more and more game time.

    I think it’s kind of fascinating that Jorge came up as a 2B. You can certainly see where he got his offensive edge. But that fact that Cervelli came up as nothing but a catcher makes his hitting all the more impressive to me. I believe he is the real deal and will continue to blossom and will find his way at some point to being a full-time catcher with the Yankees. Only time will tell if I am right or wrong. I am always happy to wait and watch.

    ********************

    If tonight’s game is rained out, guess which team will be more upset? :)

    ********************

    Any time the Sux lose the following day is a joy for me. Doesn’t matter who the opposition is!

    **********************

    Pat M – any team can beat any other team on a given . The fact that their guys have been around the block to me is no big whoop/. The fact that they are last in pitching and down near the bottom in hitting (I think someone said next to last) has a lot more relevance. Their 4th place standing tells me even more. Watching them all the time tells me the most. But I respect your right to call them a good team, or even a great team if you want. I will just respectfully continue to disagree. :)

    **********************

  260. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    RAB breakdown on Phil’s start:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....hes-28596/

  261. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 18th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Excited for both, but in different ways.

    They were excited to tell me that Ichiro had been there.

    Were they excited to tell Ichiro that I had been there?

    I wonder.

  262. mick May 18th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    So we miss Garza and Price, good deal, will be at the Andy game, thanks all.

  263. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    Is CC going for the all-time record of scheduled starts in games shortened, delayed, cancelled, or threatened by rain?

    *************************
    He’s the regular season’s Andy Pettitte. ;)

  264. m May 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Who just talked about benching BJ Upton? He just rapped a leadoff-double. :mad:

  265. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    LO@ Nick!

    I’m sure, you are a legend! Just like Ichiro.

  266. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    Carl Pavano did not have a good day

    I really enjoy seeing or reading about Pavano getting hammered by any team in the majors.
    HAHA
    ***********

    Most would. However, I picked him up on my fantasy team, Erica’s Avengers.

    I figured that Carl Pavano + 1-year incentive filled contract = Fantasy Gold

    He has actually been one of my best pitchers (but not today)

  267. Jerkface May 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    The Red Sox are the #2 or #3 offense in MLB. By AVG/SLG/OPS or by Runs, take your pick. If you watched them all the time you’d have seen that.

    Their problem is pitching and they have a propensity to be held down. (they have been held to 2 runs or less more than twice as often as the yankees despite scoring a similiar # of runs)

  268. mick May 18th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Wouldn’t it serve a purpose for the original to inform us if he/she is being impersonated?

    Just a thought.

    For some reason I hate talking to imposters, even if they are good ones.

  269. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Rays have 1st and 2nd nobody out in the bottom of the 6th.
    Now 2nd and 3rd 1 out.

    Let’s hope for extra innings, so their team is tired for tomorrow.

  270. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Well, it’s raining here in the Bronx. And according to this http://bit.ly/bOz16o it’s going to rain all evening.

  271. SJ44 Impersonator May 18th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Rain.

    No game tonight children.

    I said so.

  272. Warning Track Power May 18th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    # Today: Rain. High 57F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph. Rainfall near a half an inch.
    # Tonight: Rain early…then remaining cloudy with showers overnight. Low 52F. Winds NNE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall near a half an inch.
    # Tomorrow: Cloudy with a few showers. High 68F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
    # Tomorrow night: A few showers early with mostly cloudy conditions late. Low around 55F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.

  273. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Jerkface, I’ve been saying consistently the Sox are a dangerous offensive team, but for some reason no one believes that.

    I really do not believe that loss yesterday is going to crush them; they came back against a good pitcher and did a great job knocking him out of the game. So far they have been resilient and you have to believe their pitching is going to get better. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went on something of a run now.

  274. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    mick,

    quickest way to determine if someone is impersonating me….

    If they say something stupid, its not me! lol

    Seriously, I point it out if I see an impersonators post of me.

    I just can’t do it all the time since I’m not here all the time.

  275. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    So the Yankees finally come home……..to this crap weather?

  276. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Watching them all the time allows me to conclude they suck. Alas I don’t have my calculator out during their games adding their stats to the rest of the leagues. I was quoting someone else (as I pointed out) and either misquoted what the person said, or the person got it wrong.

    However, I haven’t changed my view of their team based on what you just said, nor did the person’s (mis)statement cause me to change my view in a downward fashion. That would be impossible.

  277. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Upton is an enigma. He is one of the most talented players in baseball, but he cannot seem to put it all together. In fact, almost every one of his numbers has been in a decline since his breakouit season in ’07. The only numbers that have not declined since are SBs and doubles.

  278. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    BryanHoch I’m no weatherman, but Phil Connors called from Punxsutawney. He’s seeing lots of rain at Yankee Stadium.

    :D

  279. Wave Your Hat May 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    “Sure the pitching will carry you but guys like Pena, Cervelli, et. al have a way of playing over their heads when they are on a great team, which this is.”

    How do you know if that is true? How do you know the opposite isn’t true, that teams get better when their bench players outperform, rather than bench players outperforming because they are on better teams?

  280. Pat M. May 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Bets, real good piece….Tricia, I understand you’re following baseball more closely now than in years past……However what is today is not likely to be tomorrow…..The thing that is hurting the Sox is not their offense, it’s their pitching which the club is built upon…….They are a much better club than the 1 game below .500 record that they’re sporting right now………Last season when the Yanks were 8 under .500 , most smart baseball people here understood that it was just a mater of time before the club started to get healthy and clicked….Of course I include you in this group……..Boston is not going away folks, not at all

  281. SJ44 May 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Mick,

    The 3:11pm post is Exhibit A.

    Since we have one of those punks here, time for me to head out. Enjoy the game, if there is one, folks!

  282. CR9 May 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Rays game is over. Rays 5-1 bottom 6th.

  283. randy l. May 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    “I’m sorry for wishing that not only would the “Chicken Littles” of Lohud calm down but that the know-it-alls would do the same. I just think both sides perpetually look foolish.”

    shame spencer-

    you’ve touched on an interesting nerve on the blog.

    and that’s who irritates who.

    it’s not as simple as those ” who have the most firm grasp on the game of baseball. ” against the those who don’t.

    some of the people who are saying or implying they know the game really don’t have much experience in it except for watching it. they don’t even know enough to know what they don’t know.

    if you hear someone on this blog never having any self doubt about their ideas or simply never wondering about things out loud in public that’s your clue that they were a know it all before they ever hit this forum .

    one time in a semi pro game on cape cod , the team i was on was going up against a really good division one college pitcher who was going to go high in the draft when our manager gave us a pre game pep talk. he said ” if that guy was as good as he thinks he is or even that good in general, he wouldn’t be pitching in this league. so go out there and kick his butt”

    we all looked at each other and realized he just said we all suck for being in this league.
    so all the players did a big team circle and chanted ” we suck, we suck ” and ran out on the field (with our manager looking at us like we were crazy) and beat the guy.

    the point i’m making in a convoluted way is that no one is a total baseball expert on this blog or they wouldn’t be here.

    (i’m not talking about sj44. he knows as much about the game as you’re going to get on a blog. i have no idea why he bothers to tell you the truth)

    personally the know it alls who have no experience anywhere close to the game are way more annoying to me than the trolls.

  284. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Johnson’s surgery performed by hand specialist Dr. Melvin Rosenwasser. Will be 4-6 weeks until he can pick up a bat.

  285. austinmac May 18th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    The Red Sox saw how many cutters Hughes threw the first start and they were looking for it. I think it is a very good pitch and a key to his success, but he is probably throwing too many at this point. I expect we will see fewer next outing with a few more change ups.

  286. Tom May 18th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    The Hanley Ramirez situation is interesting. What will they do? Maybe genius theo will offer DelCarmen and Darnell Washington for Ramirez !

  287. Tom May 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    The Red Sox saw how many cutters Hughes threw the first start and they were looking for it. I think it is a very good pitch and a key to his success, but he is probably throwing too many at this point. I expect we will see fewer next outing with a few more change ups.
    __________
    yeah why not throw high heat there to big papi. I’d rather challenge him that way. Phil had a good fastball last night.

  288. mick May 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    # SJ44 Impersonator May 18th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Rain.

    No game tonight children.

    I said so.
    =====================
    At least this guy/gal is honest.

    The next question is if the other SJ is also an impersonator?

    Two at a time is way too much.

  289. rodg12 May 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Thanks Erica. Should be a good match-up. My squad didn’t get off to a good start yesterday. Papelbon hurt me, but I don’t really mind that. ;)

  290. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Pat M, I thought it was pretty good as well. I don’t agree that last night was his first test, but it was a different test of sorts. It’s going to be interesting to see how he does against teams the 2nd time around; no more depending on 2 pitches – I don’t think that will fly.

  291. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    randy,

    Well I hope I’m not one of those know-it-all’s but I have a sneaking suspicion that I am. Because I do know it all.

    :)

    Jerkface,

    Ichiro is probably my favorite non-Yankee player. I love watching him play and I sincerely hope he becomes a pitcher when he gets older. If anyone can do it, it’s Ichiro.

  292. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    rodg12 May 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
    Thanks Erica. Should be a good match-up. My squad didn?t get off to a good start yesterday. Papelbon hurt me, but I don?t really mind that.
    *********

    Haha. That was the icing on the cake for the night for me.

    However, Pavano stunk it up today so that should even it out a little

  293. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    “Ledger_Yankees Johnson’s surgery performed by hand specialist Dr. Melvin Rosenwasser. Will be 4-6 weeks until he can pick up a bat.”

    If it were Arod or Jeter, I would expect 4-6 weeks to begin swinging again. I think they need to revise that timetable for the guy they are talking about. I think we may have seen the last of Nick Johnson in Pinstripes. Then again, if you ask me, we never should have seen the first of him in Pinstripes.

  294. ANSKY May 18th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    I’m surprised no bridge jumpers called for Hughes to be sent down for being a scrub after giving up 5 runs and 2HR.

    NO NO NO I’m not saying I think he should be sent down … I think he’s doing great and I’m not worried about him at all. Just commenting on the mentality which we’ve all seen exhibited by some. And, the mentality where clarifying that actually needs to be done.

  295. the truth May 18th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Does anybody know how the weather is in the bronx? It is absolutely pouring in jersey. I don’t feel like jumping on the train for nothing.

  296. sunny615 May 18th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    According to this article – Hanely doesn’t play until he apologizes. Hanley has clearly stated he has no intention to do so. So does Gozalez get fired first or does ownership intervene or does Hanley apologize first or does he get traded (ha)??

    http://network.yardbarker.com/.....es/2609005

  297. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 18th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Is Phil’s cutter really a good pitch? According to CB, it’s only good in conjunction with his FB; if his FB isn’t “on” then his cutter isn’t so hot by itself. I’m sure it will improve with time as it’s a fairly new pitch, but we’re talking right now.

    He really needs to mix his pitches up; teams are not going to let him get away with throwing 2 pitches. Frankly, given how we talked in ST about how important it was for Phil to have secondary pitches he can go to besides FB/curve, I’m surprised how many people I respect here actually think it’s ok for him to rely on 2 pitches.

  298. Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Serious question here:

    If you are Boston, would you rather have lost that game the way they did; or would you rather it had been a quiet 6-2, or 8-4 ending, which is the way it seemed to be headed after 4 innings?

  299. CountryClub May 18th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    For those of you that will be home (or have a DVR), the Scranton game tomorrow is on the MLB Network. It’s an early afternoon affair.

  300. I Like Inge May 18th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    The video of that Hanley Ramirez play was crazy. I’ve never seen such a dog-job. I’m amazed guys like Dan Uggla didn’t fight him in the locker room.

    I would never want that guy on the Yankees.

  301. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Mark in Tampa May 18th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    Serious question here:

    If you are Boston, would you rather have lost that game the way they did; or would you rather it had been a quiet 6-2, or 8-4 ending, which is the way it seemed to be headed after 4 innings?
    ************

    Personally, I would have rather had the quiet 6-2 loss than regaining the lead and having your closer blow it

    All losses stink, but some burn more than others

  302. Jerkface May 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Betsy,

    Hughes cutter is a great pitch for Hughes, but I don’t think he’d get away with it if that was his main pitch. Does that make sense? Its not like Johan santana, who could probably throw his changeup a lot without needing to throw his fastball as much.

    I think Hughes should be (of his fastballs) 80-20 4 seam vs cutter, maybe. I guess it depends on how the hitters are reacting.

    After Ortiz opened up super early on that cutter and blasted it, I don’t know why they went in again. SSeemed like it wasnt fooling them inside.

  303. ANSKY May 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Truth:

    Weather.com’s hour-by-hour forecast has darc cloud graphic with a 60-70% chance of rain listed through midnight. And they have a little lightning bolt coming from their cloud graphic over the 7PM mark. It don’t look too good.

  304. sunny615 May 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    snippets:
    As the Marlins have a day game today, Ramirez addressed the media about the incident Tuesday morning:

    It’s his ((Manager Fredi Gonzalez) team. He does whatever he (expletive) wants. There’s nothing I can do about it. It’s brutal.

    That’s OK. He (Gonzalez) doesn’t understand that (playing hurt). He never played in the big leagues.”

    Gonzalez responded to Ramirez’s comment about the Marlins not understanding the situation because he never played in the big leagues.

    “He’s right. But I know how to play the game. I played six years in the minor leagues and I know what it takes to play this game and I know the effort it takes to play this game and I know it’s hard to play this game. That’s it.

    Gonzalez, according to Marlins reporter Joe Capozzi and Clark Spencer will not put Ramirez back in the lineup until the shortstop apologizes for his comments this morning.

    Case you’re wondering, it appears the entire organization, from Ramirez’s teammates to owner Jeffery Loria, are firmly in Fredi’s corner.

    Capozzi has this from “clubhouse leader” Wes Helms on Ramirez:

    - snip -

    “I can’t overlook it. I know people say that’s just the way he is. But you know what? That’s not the way it is. That’s not the way the game’s supposed to be played. And that’s what we want from Hanley.”

    - snip -

    Does he have to come in here and apologize to everybody?

    “It would be good. I know I would. It would be good to hear it from him.

    - snip -

    On a possible apology, Ramirez said this to Capozzi:

    Do you plan to apologize to the team?
    “To who?”

    One of your teammates suggested an apology might be good if you did that.
    “Do what?”

    Apologize.
    “For what?”

    They thought that you were dogging it chasing that ball.
    “We got a lot of people dogging it after ground balls. They don’t apologize.’’

    Those comments were made before Gonzalez made it clear on the record that Ramirez would have to apologize.

    The irony of Ramirez’s comments about his injury and Gonzalez never having played in the majors is that part of being a big leaguer is overcoming the compulsion to play hurt when it might injure the team’s chances of winning. Something obviously lost on Ramirez.

  305. Mr. VEE May 18th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    My son mentioned to me last night that it seems that every time Cervelli is in, the Yankees win and every time or almost every time lately Jorge is in they lose. Could Jorge be losing his touch or calling for the wrong pitches to some batters? Maybe Cervelli is a breath of fresh air for the pitchers? Could there be any truth to this or is it just a coincidence?

  306. E-gawa May 18th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    players have bad games.. laying on hughes for having one is silly.

  307. joelh May 18th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Quick question:

    What happens if Jeter hits below 290 (which would be the lowest of his career) regarding his next contract in terms of years/$$ and doesn’t put up his typical numbers?

  308. Erin May 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    New Post: Watching the rain in the Bronx

  309. stuart May 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    i laugh at the melancon has had so many chance comments. really how impatient and stupid are some fans. bernie williams, did it take him some time to figure it out?

    melancon has dominated AAA, has good stuff, and a good head. sometimes it takes some time.

    I send down logan, keep golson they have no bench and you are going to subtract 1 guy!!!

    joba, mo, and robertson can pitch tonight also.

    logan is a damn tease………..no lefty out of the pen tonight….so logan does not get lefties out anyways…..

  310. Patrick May 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    As much as I like Hanley’s game, he’s acting like a jerk here. He’s putting the team in a really bad spot. They can’t let this crap continue but they can’t bench their best player (well, I guess they can..).

    Maybe Gonzalez has shown Hanley a lack of respect in the past but in this case, Hanley is in the wrong.

  311. m May 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    mark in tampa,

    I think they would prefer the scenario that doesn’t include their closer getting lit up like a christmas tree.

    BUT, they were looking pretty pleased that they got something going in the middle of that game. They were swinging the bats well.

  312. NYY626 May 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Francesa is doing some sort of contest and the question was: “what year did Jeter win the WS MVP”. The lady on the phone said “I dont know Mike” so he told her to take a guess. Her answer “1992″. :facepalm:

  313. Cashman needs to go May 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Speaking of Cashman’s colossal mistake signing Nick “DL” Johnson..

    So Mr. DL has a team option of another $5.5 million next year – do you tar and feather Cashman if he even considers invoking the option – regardless of what Porcelain man does the rest of the year.

  314. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 18th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  315. stuart May 18th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    cashman needs to go.. classic the guy is the architect of a WS winning team and idiots are whining.

    yea that barren minor league system has recently produced; joba, hughes,aceves, robertson, cervelli, gardner, etc etc etc…………

    the trade for swisher looks pretty good also…the yanks have 4 starters out of the lineup and still are winning…………

  316. Cashman needs to go May 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    1) That architect also had 8 years of choking prior to last year, including the biggest choke of all time in 2004.

    2) For every hughes there is 50 minor leaguers he drafted that will never sniff the ML’s -

    3) He traded wilson betemit for swisher – 100 times out of 100 you’ll trade wilson betemit for a herpes virus if you had the chance – he also coveted that same wilson betemit for 2 years prior to getting him from the dodgers

    4) 5 words – he signed sidney ponson…..twice

    5) not to mention latroy hawkins, kyle farnsworth, richie sexson, tony womack should i continue – do you want higher priced players? – jason giambi, carl pavano, kei igawa (thats like 250 million wasted dollars right there)

    6) did you like AROD’s clutch homerun last night and his performance in last years postseason? well if cashman had his way arod wouldn’t have been on the team after he opted out a few years ago…

    7) its nice to have a short memory…

  317. randy l. May 18th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    “Well I hope I’m not one of those know-it-all’s but I have a sneaking suspicion that I am. Because I do know it all.”

    patrick-

    no , if you would have been on that team i was on you would have chanted “we suck” right along with the rest of us. you get the humor.

    a real know it all would have been ticked off to be told they weren’t that good.
    i don’t think know it alls have a sense of humor.
    the only time they smile is when they’re right.

    the rest of the time they are a pain in the butt. that is if you can find them.

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