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Tonights lineup vs. Rays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 19, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Brett Gardner CF
Mark Teixeira DH
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Francisco Cervelli C
Marcus Thames RF
Juan Miranda 1B
Randy Winn LF

Nick Swisher tried to swing left-handed last night in the late innings and felt more discomfort in his biceps. Jorge Posada is going for an MRI because the problem in his foot still hasn’t gone away.

As for why he sent down Greg Golson to add Mark Melancon, Joe Girardi said, “We felt we needed the pitching more.”

Sergio Mitre will be available tomorrow, not tonight.

 
 

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277 Responses to “Tonights lineup vs. Rays”

  1. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Unbelievable. Can we just DL these guys already?

  2. OrphanFUnkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    I can’t wait until we have more than 5/9 of our starters in the lineup

  3. JM May 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Yeah. Sounds like Posada, at least, has to go on the DL.

  4. Gus G. May 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Hold on tight!

  5. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    I really question how a ball hitting the top of Jorge’s foot has messed up the bottom of it. Its a foot, not a woman’s brain. It shouldn’t be hard to figure out. Look at it. Is something sticking out the bottom? Is it purple??? Its a foot! :x

  6. NYYROC May 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Maybe they could use Javy & CC as pinch hitters! :)

  7. miggs May 19th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    I agree jerkface.

    Take an xray, an MRI, something.

    Figure it out already!

  8. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    # Erica ? always OPPC ? Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    And Finally, Johnny Damon will not be back.
    ===============================
    Don?t be so sure of that.
    ***************

    I am trying to work my magic on this.
    Please note, if the universe sends Johnny Damon back to the Yankees I will take all of the credit myself
    ======================================
    I knew you would come out of your shell for that one!
    **********************

    When I had my annual review with one of the managing partners, I acted like a normal person.

    Afterwards, he announed to the HR rep in the room that I seemed very shy and needed to ?come out of my shell a little?.

    She laughed so hard she had to leave the room. And told him she?s been trying to push me back into my shell for years :lol:

  9. mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Not that he has any choice but as he did with Swish last year he sticks with Thames.
    It’s incredible we compete with that lineup, offensively and defensively.

  10. Mike_Boston May 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Swisher needs to be DL’d, a strained bicep is not going to get better in days, it most likely takes weeks. I’m not a doctor but I know about that injury. If he keeps messing around it can pop or or even slightly tear, then he’s out for months.
    Let’s wait on the MRI for Jorgie before speculating…

  11. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Saturn is like the perfect woman (erica?) , beautiful and buoyant.

    *************

    Thanks jerkface. I am pretty awesome…. :-)

  12. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Swisher and his bicep. Didn’t he say yesterday that the trainers have magic hands?
    UGH!

    As for Jorge, very hard to catch with a foot injury.
    Good thing we have Cervelli back there.

  13. mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Erica you are a turtle!

  14. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    There are no winners in today’s Guess The Line Up

    Thanks, everyone.

    :)

  15. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    I refuse to submit any further GTLU submissions that have Marcus Thames in the field.

    I do not care if this tanks my winning percentage

  16. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    They have to DL posada. This isnt going to work much longer.

  17. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    Erica you are a turtle!

    ***********

    I have been called many, many things before. I believe turtle is a first

  18. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    At this point, it makes sense to DL both players backdated from the time they got hurt.

    Can’t keep playing shorthanded roster-wise every night.

    I don’t understand the logic with that strategy.

  19. raymagnetic (Who's Your Pap-py?!?!) May 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    “Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) says:
    May 19, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    Unbelievable. Can we just DL these guys already?”

    are there players in the minors the Yankees can call up instead?

    Unless you want to see Golson and Moeller in the Bx.?

  20. sab May 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Jermaine Dye..paging Jermaine Dye

  21. Shew May 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    I told cash Nick the Stick was a bad idea. Did he listen? Nooooooooooooo

  22. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    “There are no winners in today’s… Line Up”

    Pessimist.

  23. RalphieD (OPPC) May 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    it really is a testament to how good this team is that we have the second best record in the game yet:

    our starting catcher is hurt.
    our starting right fielder is hurt.
    our opening day cf is hurt.
    our 4th starter is umm.
    our bullpen is a complete mess.
    and our bench consists of like 1 person..

  24. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Ray, I don’t want that, but I we have no choice …….

  25. Erin May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Johnson here in a sling.

  26. Guru Man May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    All I can say is that Girardi (who normally does a good job) had two horrible games. leaving Chan Ho Park out there in his first game back was idiotic and last night while I would have let CC throw at least 10 more pitches (the same number he threw in each of the previous 2 innings) how in the world do you let Winn bat with 2 outs in the 9th with your best OPS guy Posada on the bench? Yes, he is banged up, but they are talking like he may play tonight and Posada said he was available. MORONIC

  27. raymagnetic (Who's Your Pap-py?!?!) May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    “*************

    Thanks jerkface. I am pretty awesome…. ”

    Source?

  28. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Why is Teixeira not at first base? The games against the Rays are the most important in the season. If anything, Teixira should have DH’d last night against the Sox if he needed a rest.

  29. mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    #

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Mick, we’ll probably be ok , but still – Space is scary. I’m fascinated by black holes, have been ever since I saw the cheesy Disney movie of the same name back in the late 1970’s.
    ================================================
    We might be but our great grandchildrens great grandchildren might not.

  30. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    SJ44 -

    I agree, that makes the most sense right now – especially since they are allowed to date it back.

    I guess they bring up a catcher (who won’t play, but it’s insurance) and a generic outfielder (Golson?).

    I just don’t know how much it really helps. Those guys’ll be on the bench just like Posada and Swisher are on the bench. :(

  31. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    I think Nick Swisher made an appearance after he was hurt which is going to mess up backdating a DL stint for him.

  32. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    raymagnetic (Who’s Your Pap-py?!?!) May 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    ?*************

    Thanks jerkface. I am pretty awesome…. ?

    Source?
    ****************

    Over inflated ego!

  33. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Swisher hit right handed on saturday I think.

  34. JM May 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Yeah, Swish played on Saturday against the Twins

  35. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    swisher may not need to be DLed, but Posada definitely should. He has been out more than a week already. Bad idea to send Golson back to AAA…. If they DL Swish, they can bring Golson back, and if they DL posada, they need to bring up moeller or something.

    They need a real bench. They are hanging on but you can tell this is starting to take its toll on them.

  36. mick May 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    # RalphieD (OPPC) May 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    it really is a testament to how good this team is that we have the second best record in the game yet:

    our starting catcher is hurt.
    our starting right fielder is hurt.
    our opening day cf is hurt.
    our 4th starter is umm.
    our bullpen is a complete mess.
    and our bench consists of like 1 person..
    ===========================
    Not to be contrary but most of that was accomplished when we were whole, regardless, if not for the plethora of weak teams we would be lucky to play at a 500 pace with this present team.

  37. Billy D May 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Both Swisher and Posada last appeared in a game on 5/16.

  38. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Swisher is listed as a PH on Sunday. He didn’t get to the plate but he made an official appearance.

  39. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Mick, true, but I don’t think there’s much we can do about it, lol

  40. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I think if these were 2-3 day injuries, you roll the dice and hope they are ok.

    Now that its longer, you can’t keep playing shorthanded every night.

    As it is now, you have limited bullpen options because of ineffectiveness. If you have no bench, how is that helpeful?

    I can’t see how not putting Jorge on the DL at this point is a bad thing. You need him completely healthy. Right now, he’s not and shorting the bench isn’t the solution.

    If you put Nick on the DL, you can bring up Golston immediately because of the DL move.

    Is Greg Golston a savior? Of course not.

    However, if he was here last night, the Yankees win the game because he’s in RF in the late innings.

    With so many guys hurt and ineffective, the little things have to be done correctly.

    Playing with a short lineup at this point makes no sense. It makes Girardi’s job that much harder.

  41. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I’m not ready to lose Jorge and Nick for 2 weeks – the Yanks need to make sure it’s necessary before they do it. I don’t like the current set-up but it beats the alternative.

  42. Mark in Tampa May 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    “Yankees Johnson here in a sling.”

    Nick Johnson in a sling. Probably the most predictable sentence of all time.

  43. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    Unbelievable. Can we just DL these guys already?
    ————————-

    Betsy –

    I completely agree. You can’t have 1 position player (Pena) on your bench in these games. We saw the result of not having a viable outfield replacement for Thames last night.

    I would DL Jorge and recall Golson
    Send down Boone Logan and purchase the contract of Chad Moeller (put Chris Garcia on the 60 Day DL to create room on the 40 man roster)

  44. MTU(aka GBURL) May 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    I’m really sorry I did not mean to instigate all the Planetary confabulations, configurations, and complications on the last thread.

    After all, you people know me.

    I am a SIRIUS poster. :)

  45. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    @Nick in SF -

    I was too tired to try and dress it up…

  46. RS May 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    The Yankees go to CitiField in 2 days, so they will definitely need to make a decision on Posada and Swisher. Can’t play in a NL stadium with Ramiro Pena as your only bench guy.

  47. Michelle May 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    Swisher needs to be on the DL. Playing short is really hurting them. It’s not like Swish is a superstar where they are going to miss him for another 10 days. He is hurting them more being on the roster. Thames will once again probably hurt them in the outfield tonight. I really hope Girardi isn’t considering playing him in Citifield over the weekend. Golson needs to be on the team.

  48. Erin May 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Swisher is no worse. But he did feel his biceps flare up while taking swings during the game yesterday.

  49. RS May 19th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    I wonder if Boone Logan is only sticking around until Mitre is available as the long man. At least, I hope that’s the case.

  50. Erin May 19th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    RiverAveBlues Josh Beckett now on the 15-day DL with a swollen ?oops we changed pictures improperly.”

    LOL

    and I’m assuming he means pitchers not pictures. ;)

  51. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    If Jorge is only day to day it would be a huge mistake to DL him, he’s be out for at least a week and a half and it’s a hole we can’t fill.

    Same with Swisher, call up Golson and send down Logan for a day or two.

    Re-examine things on Friday.

  52. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    We have 2 games vs TB, 3 vs the Mess and 3 vs the Twins- 8 games.

    Then it’s Cleve for 4, Balt 3, tor 3, Balt 3 Hou 3-16 games.

    We can win 11 of those 16 with guys, I hope.

    Split the 1st 8. I’ll take that.

  53. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    RS May 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    The Yankees go to CitiField in 2 days, so they will definitely need to make a decision on Posada and Swisher. Can?t play in a NL stadium with Ramiro Pena as your only bench guy.
    ————-

    Absolutely agree.

    And the team is also playing with fire by having only one healthy catcher on the roster. If Cervelli gets seriously hurt tonight and Jorge’s also unable to play…what then?

  54. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    So how is that no worse? Clearly Swisher is not getting better…….this just doesn’t sound good. I admit I don’t like the uncertainty.

  55. Michelle May 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Poor Joshy Beckett was just put on the DL. Poor baby…

  56. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    (put Chris Garcia on the 60 Day DL to create room on the 40 man roster

    **************************

    Unfortunately the genius cashman has already burned up the chris garcia spot on the 40 man by picking up shane lindsay, yes that same shane lindsay that the other 29 teams passed on (including the pitching poor diamondbacks, indians, pirates etc) – and that had like a 789.98 era in the MINOR LEAGUES!!!

  57. Tyler May 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Doreen,

    Golson sure would have helped on a certain popup to right last night lol

  58. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Jorge is at a point where Joe doesn’t want to play him (inc. DH) 3 days in a row – that’s not good. He needs to get to the point where he can play his regular complement of games; put him on the DL and let him heal completely.

  59. MTU(aka GBURL) May 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    “But he did feel his biceps flare up while taking swings during the game yesterday.”

    That’s what happens when you don’t pay attention and you confuse the Tabasco bottle with the liniment bottle.

    Ouch ! :)

  60. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Wave –

    The team can’t call up Golson without putting someone on the DL since he was just sent down.

    They could call up another outfielder, but the thing is that in my opinion they need more than one additional player on the bench.

    I would rather have Jorge go on the DL, get fully healthy and then come back than have him sit a few days, come back, get hurt again and have to sit another 5 days…

  61. JohnC May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Agree. Both Swisher and Posada should be DL’ed. Can’t go into this weekend’s series at Citifield shorthanded. Have to make a move with them by Friday.

  62. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Why not bring up Montero as the 3rd catcher and try him at DH?
    Maybe he could spark us, for at least a little while.

  63. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    The baseball gods must hate us – man. However, this is what the Mets went through last year except worse.

  64. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    New blog rule – every post needs a source.

    Source: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-1362920

  65. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Too many pitchers on the 25 man roster. Girardi is over managing, pls don`t turn into another Joe Torre.

  66. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Chip-

    You are right, so call up Huffman. What’s the difference anyway?

  67. m May 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Well, we knew it was bad when neither took a swing with one out left in the 9th.

    Just cross the fingers and hope for the best.

    Go, AJ.

    It’s good that Joe is giving Thames a chance to get back on the horse so soon. Too bad it’s only because Swish & Sado aren’t ready to play. :(

  68. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    (put Chris Garcia on the 60 Day DL to create room on the 40 man roster

    **************************

    Unfortunately the genius cashman has already burned up the chris garcia spot on the 40 man by picking up shane lindsay, yes that same shane lindsay that the other 29 teams passed on (including the pitching poor diamondbacks, indians, pirates etc) ? and that had like a 789.98 era in the MINOR LEAGUES!!!
    ——————————-

    Well ok, I don’t know who that is, but in any case, to create space on the 40 they can put Nick Johnson on the 60 or DFA Jonathan Albaladejo (whom they have no intention of using)

  69. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    The Yanks would be nuts to make Montero a super 2 when it isn’t clear he’d even help anyway.

  70. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Besides Cervelli will need a rest, doesn’t look like Jorge will be behind plate anytime soon.

  71. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Unfortunately the genius cashman has already burned up the chris garcia spot on the 40 man by picking up shane lindsay, yes that same shane lindsay that the other 29 teams passed on (including the pitching poor diamondbacks, indians, pirates etc) ? and that had like a 789.98 era in the MINOR LEAGUES!!!

    He could just DFA Lindsay? Then its like wow, nothing happened.

  72. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Can’t call up Golston now for 10 days since they sent him out yesterday.

    Only way he comes back earlier is if they DL somebody.

    At this point, these guys will be out almost a week. They can survive another week without either guy much more than they can survive playing shorthanded every night, IMO.

    Plus, its Mid-May. Get both guys 100% healthy instead of this stuff.

  73. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    heres a friggen thought – why not have swisher bat RIGHTHANDED all the time? Nothing hurts when batting righthanded, i’d rather have swish battng righthanded in a hurricane, with the lights out and blindfolded than have randy winn batting at all..

    and these people are supposed to be experts in the game of baseball?

  74. Tyler May 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Mick-

    Montero is not ready. He’s hitting like .230 in AAA

  75. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    New blog rule ? every post needs a source.

    Source: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201…..nt-1362920

    ***********

    Just clicked on that link
    I may be a little slow today

  76. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    If Necessary use the Big Lefty Pitcher as a Pinch Hitter

  77. 56Bomber May 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    We might get a chance to see Mo as a defensive replacement in RF tonight. lol.

  78. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    The Yanks would be nuts to make Montero a super 2 when it isn’t clear he’d even help anyway.

    ___

    How about Romine then? Cervelli jumped from AA.

  79. Robe May 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    I’m still furious at Joe for not pinch hitting Swish (left handed) or PO for Winn….

  80. Andrew May 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    SI_JonHeyman yankees protest is now officially toast. girardi owes #redsox apology, in fact. RT @GordonEdes Beckett on DL 1 minute ago via web

    This has to be one of the most idiotic tweets from a generally idiotic commentator. Does he not even understand what Girardi is protesting? They didn’t go out there with a trainer, the pitching coach walked out and told the ump he had to make a change and then Delcarmen got all the time he needed. Heyman has no idea what was said on the mound yet now Girardi has to apologize?

  81. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Mick-

    Montero is not ready. He’s hitting like .230 in AAA
    =====================Cervelli didn’t hit much higher and look at him.
    Just talking about some instant relief that could spark us till all heals. A pick me up if you will.

    These are confusing times but with good pitching we have enough hitting to get thru it.

  82. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Nick Swisher doesn’t hit well RH against RH pitching. That’s why he is a switch hitter.

  83. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    SJ44-

    If there were choices other than warm bodies in AAA I’d agree with you, but calling up Moeller and Huffman isn’t going to help, and they can call up Huffman if they’d just give up on their Logan obsession.

    I agree they can’t play the Mets this shorthanded, but I think they are better off making sure.

  84. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Swisher last appeared in a game May 16(Sunday)
    Posada last appeared in a game May 16(Sunday)

    So if they are placed on the DL, the retro-active date is only a few days ago :(

    We may not need Jorge in the next 2 games vs the rays, but once we play at the mets, no dh, we have to have a back-up catcher that is able to play.
    Even if that role is only a pinch hitter because Cervelli is playing a lot and logging many innings day after day.

  85. m May 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    I know people will say that montero’s not ready. But Wang, Cano, melky, GGBG all came up due to injuries.

    The only thing is he’s only 20…

  86. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    I?m still furious at Joe for not pinch hitting Swish (left handed) or PO for Winn?.

    Still? Dude thats so last night. We’re all about the planets now.

  87. Tyler May 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Mick-

    I know Cervelli was hitting .190 but he was also much more developed defensively. If they really wanted a spark Romine would probably be a better bet but I wouldn’t mess with either one of their developments. The Yankees spark will come when Grandy is back mark my word.

  88. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Nick Swisher doesn?t hit well RH against RH pitching. That?s why he is a switch hitter.

    He can draw a walk, he can probably hit a fastball. Good thing the pitcher on the mound had no breaking ball to speak of. All he had is a split that he can’t throw consistently.

    Give me swisher with 1 arm over Winn. I think Swish could damage a RH fastball right handed.

  89. Soul May 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Our lineup in the NL park is going to be scary

    Jeter
    Gardner
    Tex
    A-Rod
    Cano
    Cervelli
    Thames
    Winn
    Pitcher

    Basically, the same as tonight’s except Vazquez/Hughes/CC will hit instead of Miranda.

  90. Trevor May 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    The problem with Posada’s “day to day” injuries is his injuries seem to be taking a whole week to heal. It’s best to put him on the DL.

  91. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    If Posada goes on the DL, he has to be replaced by a Catcher on
    the 40 man.
    There are no other catchers on the 40 man roster.
    Very tough decision to make here.
    I don’t know all the rules and procedures, but not having a 3rd catcher on the 40 man might
    make this move extremely difficult for Cashman

  92. David May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    At what point does this team bring up another outfielder. Thames just should not be allowed to play defense at all.

  93. The Truth May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Chip -

    SJ -

    Instead of trying to shut me down by talking about my hypothetical trades, which I fully admit are based on nothing more than my opinions, all you have to do is give me one nationally recognized source who can back up the inside info you claim to have. You can’t do it. You’re a fraud. You get a thrill out of some of the lemmings on this board looking at you as a supposed insider.
    ——————————————————————————————————–

    100% spot on!!

    It is IMPOSSIBLE that time and time again SJ’s “inside info” is not reported anywhere by the media. Coming back to making fun of Chip’s trade idea is just a way of avoiding dealing with the facts:

    FACT: SJ, you are just a dude with your own opinion like everyone else here. But unlike everybody else here, you claim to be “in the know”. You are not dude. Get over yourself.

    Peace!

  94. tk May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    The team’s injury issues have really hurt them in recent games; however, if the Yankees are able to maintain their position through the next 8 games, they should be able to put together a very nice run over the next 6 or so weeks before the All-Star break. This time next week the Yankees should have Posada and Swisher back, with Granderson not far off. Plus, a turn through the rotation without using Mitre as a starter should allow the bullpen to recover. On top of that, the Yankees will be looking forward to a schedule that includes Cleveland (4), Baltimore (6), Houston (3), Arizona (3), and Seattle (7).

  95. Andrew May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Isn’t it possible that both Swisher and Posada, the team feels, will be ready to play by the weekend? Hence maybe they are taking a wait and see, but by Friday if they are not actually ready to play, they will make some more moves to adjust in time for not having the DH? Is that not at all considered possible here? That to me makes sense, why lose Posada or Swisher until the 30th or 31st of May if they might actually be good to go in a few more days. They should have just optioned Logan to Scranton instead of Golson, then it becomes less dicey of a roster squeeze.

  96. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Montero isn’t ready yet and they aren’t going to give up his Super 2 rights for a week or two of baseball.

    The Wang and Cano choices were different because they were season long decisions and not temporary fixes.

    If Posada was going to miss the rest of the season? That’s a different discussion.

    Now? I don’t see that as a smart option right now.

  97. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    .250 .500 .250 .750

    Thats Nick’s career line batting righty vs RHB. (6 PA)

  98. Pat M. May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    I’m guessing Giradi just wants their bats to be available ……They are day to day right ????

  99. JM May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Let CC pinch hit? And possibly get him hurt? Think I’ll pass on that one.

  100. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    It would be truly panicking to burn a year of Montero’s cost-controlled years to fix this problem. It isn’t going to happen, even if Montero were ready, which he isn’t.

  101. RayVT May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    I agree Chip! Posada should be DL’d to give him time to heal! It is a long season!

  102. David May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Warning Track-I think Garcia was on the 40 and he was released. They should have room.

  103. Coolerking101 May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Montero is hitting .220 at AAA. I’d say a call up to the bigs is premature.

    Huffman is red-hot. If any hitter deserves a shot from AAA, it’s him (not that he’s the answer).

  104. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    A 2nd catcher is more important than the RF, although at this point i say DL both of them, so at least we have options.

    I still say, if Montero isnt ready, bring up Romine. It’s just 2 weeks or so. Get him a taste of real action. We know what Moeller is. We wont get much from him. Romine potentially can hit.

  105. RC 16 May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    What do we need Montero for?

    Miranda is fine as DH. Did you see the shot he hit yesterday?

  106. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    One more factoid to consider-

    At some point Cervelli may need a day off.

    I am pretty sure even young catchers can’t catch every single day

  107. m May 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Girardi already acknowledged the injury. That wasn’t what the protest was about.

    But at least Girardi wasn’t protesting because we were losing. He did it out of principle.

    Wakefield and Dice-K to the rotation? Yipp-ee!

  108. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    I still don’t get having Cervelli bunt.
    The guy is hitting 750 with RISP and thee guys below him cant hit.
    He was your best chance for a single up the middle.
    Damn.

  109. Erin May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Pat M. May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    I?m guessing Giradi just wants their bats to be available ??They are day to day right ????

    *************************
    yes, both are day to day.

  110. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Keep it in the last thread “truth”. Especially when your “truth” is false.

  111. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    RC 16 May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    What do we need Montero for?

    Miranda is fine as DH. Did you see the shot he hit yesterday

    ____

    another catcher…. Posada cannot play. We need options.

  112. 7789 May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Andrew May 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    “This has to be one of the most idiotic tweets from a generally idiotic commentator. Does he not even understand what Girardi is protesting? They didn’t go out there with a trainer, the pitching coach walked out and told the ump he had to make a change and then Delcarmen got all the time he needed. Heyman has no idea what was said on the mound yet now Girardi has to apologize?”

    ———————————–

    Heyman is a moron Girardi even said he doesn’t doubt that Beckett was hurt. But they didn’t make the substituion properly. Girardi is right the pitching coach called for Delcarmen and there was no trainer out at the time.

    And Beckett is a scumbag nobody owes him an apology.

  113. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    I laugh at the several people who are begging for Montero or Romine to get a call up.

    How would that be possible, unless another player that currently is on the 40 man is put
    on waivers?

  114. tk May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    “Our lineup in the NL park is going to be scary”

    Hopefully one or both of Swisher/Posada will be back for at least the last two games of that series.

  115. Vic May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Randy Winn is the problem.

    So is Thames in the OF

    Montero doesn’t solve that. Unless he can play right field. Or move Cervelli to right.

  116. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    Nick Swisher doesn’t hit well RH against RH pitching. That’s why he is a switch hitter
    ***********************************

    Oh because randy winn has shown he can hit at all? How did he look against a struggling papelbon last night? Ok maybe swish doesn’t hit well RH vs a righthander but he can work a walk better than randy winn –

    granderson doesn’t hit well vs a lefthander but you don’t see him sitting when a lefty is pitching – why because he is a starter, which is what swish is and why randy winn is not.
    this isn’t brain surgery, if swish can swing a bat righthanded without pain then he should be playing instead of randy winn – end of story. If you don’t want to risk him getting hurt any worse then put him on the DL and get someone up here that can play for 2 weeks.

  117. H-Town May 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Remember the days when we had a circular lineup?

  118. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    There are only 2 OF’s on the 40 man.
    Golson and someone named Chad Huffman

  119. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    I don’t think 6 plate appearances is enough to glean the wisdom of having Swisher play games and only hit righthanded.

    Pat M,

    I would agree with you if their bats were available off the bench. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to be the case or I would think they would have had either Swisher or Posada hit for Winn last night.

  120. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Pat M. May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    I?m guessing Giradi just wants their bats to be available ??They are day to day right ????
    ————————–
    Pat,

    It seems though that not even their bats are available.

    If they were wouldn’t he have used one of them to pinch hit for Winn last night against Pap?

  121. Jason May 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Randall Winn is by far Cashman’s worst acquisition.

    The guy is cooked. Send him back to San Fran and get our money back.

  122. 7789 May 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    If they do put Posada on the dl they will call up Moeller. Montero and Romine are not major league ready. Why on earth would the yanks rush them and call up the 2 best position player prospects in the organization and have them sit on the bench as backups.

  123. Andrew May 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Swisher is available to hit right-handed off the bench, for sure, so his bat is technically still available. He also could play the field if he didn’t need to bat lefty. So I think he is much less of a DL candidate than Posada. Getting an MRI is never a good sign, but if the MRI shows nothing and he sees some improvement he will probably avoid the DL, too. Just have to wait and see.

  124. Nome May 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    I don’t know what is more perplexing

    That Nick/SF are not on the DL

    or that Boone Logan is still here

  125. Wes May 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    A good night to block your eyes when a ball is hit anywhere near Marcus Thames. The LH hitters of the Rays are well aware of his butcher glove.

  126. Bryan May 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Posada has a lisfranc sprain

    You heard it hear first

  127. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    You need a 2nd catcher. If not the studs (Romine and Montero) then someone else. Everyone cringed when Cervelli was beaned the other day. You want Pena catching?

  128. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    What about Russo?

  129. joelh May 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    J44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Nick Swisher doesn’t hit well RH against RH pitching. That’s why he is a switch hitter.
    ———————————————————————————————–

    A: Nick Swisher doesn’t hit well RH against RH pitching
    B: Nick Swisher is a switch hitter

    I respectfully disagree:

    B implies A. A doesn’t imply B.

    He doesn’t hit well RH against RH pitching because he is a switch hitter, hence he’s not used to it.

  130. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Someone with knowledge of the rules/procedures needs to speak up.

    Regarding placing Jorge and the DL & calling up a non-40 man player like Moeller, how does
    impact the roster, if at all?

  131. Bring in the Goose May 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Think of it this way:

    In early June, the Yankees are going to make a significant trade:

    They are going to acquire Curtis Granderson, Jorge Posada and Nick Swisher for nothing.

    Better days ahead.

  132. m May 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Pat M,

    Did you want me to copy and paste that post for you?

  133. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    RayVT May 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    I agree Chip! Posada should be DL?d to give him time to heal! It is a long season!
    ——–

    It’s especially long if you’re a 40-year old catcher.

    Heck this could be a blessing in disguise. Give Posada the next two weeks off, let him get healthy and as an aside maybe the extra time off pays dividends later in the season when most catchers (especially older ones) start to wear down.

  134. Jim May 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Thames is back in RF ! Ugh . Put Pena out there.

  135. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Send him back to San Fran and get our money back.
    ====================================
    Didn’t Joe Pesce try that with the banker in Casino?

  136. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    I’m afraid I agree with SJ. These guys are not available, not really- so there’s no sense in them just hanging around. They would have hit yesterday if they could; I think the prudent thing to do is just to DL them. Po is going to be fine (I think), but I have no idea what’s up with Swisher’s biceps.

  137. Rick May 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Why do you want Swish batting righty when you have a professional hitter like Winn who can hit from both sides of the plate with discipline and some pop in his bat?

    Just playing the percentages, it is more likely Winn does something batting lefty than Swish battign righty.

  138. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    If they DL Posada, they will put Moeller on the 40 man roster, either by moving NJ to the 60 day list or taking someone off, and activate him.

    If they DL Swisher, they will activate either Golson (I think they can do that if Swisher is DL’d) or Huffman.

    Neither Moeller or Golson/Huffman are going to help. Golson/Huffman allows a late inning defensive change which would have helped last night sure, but in any one game isn’t likely to and they could get the Huffman defense just by sending down Logan.

    So I say just “monitor the situation”. If on Friday they still can’t play, then do something.

  139. 7789 May 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Swisher is going to play Friday and Sunday the mets are starting lefty pitchers. So there is no point putting him on the dl. He can also still play the field he just cant bat left handed.

    I guess they are waiting to see if Posada will be avaliable the next couple of days before they put him on the dl.

  140. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Regarding placing Jorge and the DL & calling up a non-40 man player like Moeller, how does impact the roster, if at all?

    Yankees would have to create a spot on the 40.

    Easy enough to do – two options are to put Nick Johnson on the 60 Day DL or to Designate for Assignment Jonathan Albaladejo.

  141. Bring in the Goose May 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Bryan –

    Careful throwing words like “lisfranc” around on a board with no proof or explanation.

    You’ll cause mass panic.

  142. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Now we have doctors here trying to GTROFTMRI? Guess the results of the MRI?

    Yeah, the Daily News also had it first with Dewey Beats Truman; how’d that work out?

  143. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Jason May 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    Randall Winn is by far Cashman’s worst acquisition.

    The guy is cooked. Send him back to San Fran and get our money back.
    ***********************

    Ummm, Nick Johnson says hello. or would you prefer Carl Pavano saying hi or maybe Kei Igawa? But I agree Randy Winn was another horrible pick up by a guy that has proven time and time again that without the GNP of Switzerland helping him out he can’t make good decisions.

  144. Rick May 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    “Regarding placing Jorge and the DL & calling up a non-40 man player like Moeller, how does
    impact the roster, if at all?”

    Moller has to be on the 40 man for him to be called up.

    So we would have to make room for him.

    Cannot call up someone who is not on the 40 man.

  145. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    In Thames defense of that play last night, he may have been distracted by Cano being literally 6 inches in front of him. We know he is bad, but that seemed like it was going to be bad right from the get go.

  146. RayVT May 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    SJ

    With the Yankees not having another Catcher on the 40 man roster then they would have to add someone from their minors. I read somewhere that Montero will have to be added to 40 man before off-season to keep him. (Not sure about that now that I think about it.) I guess the thought is Montero will play this Fall (> Sept 1) and next year in MLB, so adding him now won’t change much.

  147. Rich in NJ May 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    “As for why he sent down Greg Golson to add Mark Melancon, Joe Girardi said, “We felt we needed the pitching more.”

    Logan should have been sent down. He still should be.

    They really need a BUO that can hit as well as field.

  148. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    m is an anti-Joba copy ‘n’ paste enabler! ;)

    (do it for both posts please, there were a couple of note)

  149. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Wave -

    I’m fine with sending Logan down and bringing up Huffman, but I still think, as I said earlier, that the Yankees are playing with fire by having only one healthy catcher available.

    If Cervelli should get hurt tonight, and Jorge’s already hurt, then where do you go for a catcher?

    Moeller’s certainly not a savior, but at this point I think the team needs to have another catcher on the roster.

  150. Edwar is in Oaktown May 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Cashman needs to go,

    Isn’t Winn just a typical Cashman picked up?

    Washed up scrub from the NL who is bad at baseball?

    How Cashman thought a guy who hit .260 last year and is 36 yrs old would help us. There is a reason he was unsigned in late February and only got a sniff from the Nationals – the rest of the league knew he was done.

  151. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    I refuse to believe a ball hit the top of Jorge’s foot so hard it sprained his lisfranc

  152. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    In Thames defense of that play last night, he may have been distracted by Cano being literally 6 inches in front of him. We know he is bad, but that seemed like it was going to be bad right from the get go.
    ====================
    Hopefully Robbie learns from that play. He’s got to take everything and play second like a CF.

  153. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Chip-

    I’d roll the dice and go with one catcher. It’s just one game, if Cervelli were to get hurt you can activate another catcher the next day.

  154. Banjo May 19th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Why Huffmann?

    Why not try Jaime HOFFMANN? I don’t think he latched on with a team yet… and clearly the Yanks saw something in him if they selected him with the #1 pick in the Rule 5.

    Give Jaime Hoffmann some ABs to prove his ST was a fluke.

  155. m May 19th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Dollars to donuts, these spray charts are in Girardi’s fat binder:

    Mo’s only given up 5 hits to deep left field in ’08-’09.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ing-28673/

  156. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Why not try Jaime HOFFMANN? I don?t think he latched on with a team yet? and clearly the Yanks saw something in him if they selected him with the #1 pick in the Rule 5.

    Give Jaime Hoffmann some ABs to prove his ST was a fluke.

    Hoffman is back with the dodgers

  157. vtred May 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Isn’t Cervelli one of our best hitters?

    Why are we trying to get him out of the lineup?

    Winn/Thames are the ones we need to get out of the lineup.

  158. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Edwar is in Oaktown May 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    Cashman needs to go,

    Isn’t Winn just a typical Cashman picked up?

    Washed up scrub from the NL who is bad at baseball?

    How Cashman thought a guy who hit .260 last year and is 36 yrs old would help us. There is a reason he was unsigned in late February and only got a sniff from the Nationals – the rest of the league knew he was done.
    ****************

    Oh but Cashman is the architect of a WS winning team – so please don’t question his moves. Never mind he was the same architect of the choking yankee teams the 8 years before last year.

  159. Forntoso May 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    We face 2 lefties against the Mets – Takahashi and Santana

    That means, Thames will be in cavernous Citi Field outfield

    ahhhhhhhhhhhh

  160. m May 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Hey, I think I was fair towards Joba last night. Having slept on it, though, I felt less generous today.

  161. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    I’d roll the dice and go with one catcher. It’s just one game, if Cervelli were to get hurt you can activate another catcher the next day.

    ___

    been doing this all week and a few weeks ago too. Posada has missed a lot of games early on.

  162. SJ44 May 19th, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Hoffman is in the Dodgers organization and was a bust in ST with the Yankees.

  163. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Man this team is in disarray.
    If we feel this way imagine what Girardi and the rest are thinking.
    Their heads must be spinning if our experts can’t figure it out what does Cash have to say?

  164. Patrick from CT May 19th, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    OH NO!
    Posada needs to go on the DL now. Bring up another catcher already. Cervelli can’t catch everyday or he is going to start stinking or get hurt.
    Logan needs to go down for another OF. Can Swish at least go play for Thames late in the game?
    This is going to get ugly quick……..

  165. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Panic in the streets!

  166. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    I certainly agree that the team can afford to send down Logan in exchange for an OF
    Might not be until the Mets series.

  167. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    We face 2 lefties against the Mets – Takahashi and Santana

    That means, Thames will be in cavernous Citi Field outfield

    ahhhhhhhhhhhh

    ___
    Swish can hit lefties no?

  168. tjd - Yankees again in 2010! May 19th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    wow. just put these guys on the DL already retroactive to when they last played so we’re no longer shorthanded and subjected to thames in the OF.

    WHAT IS WITH THIS AVERSION TO THE DL?

  169. Carl May 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    DL Posada, bring up Moeller.

    DL Swish, bring up Golson.

  170. Forntoso May 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    ac1,

    Yes, but then Joe will put him in left field and sit Winn.

  171. Edwar is in Oaktown May 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Can we put Winn and Boone Logan on the DL too?

    They would contribute more from there than they are currently when they get int ogames.

  172. tjd - Yankees again in 2010! May 19th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    great, down 2 guys on the bench because the Yankees would rather bench a guy for a week than DL him. now we get to see Randy Winn whiffing in more ABs with the game on the line.

    how are they seriously going to play in an NL park down 2 guys?

  173. Pat M. May 19th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    m, no need to revisit that hornets nest…..SJ, I can see Giradi not wanting to lose Posada as a extra inning catcher if the game that way, but Swisher was puzzling not being used last night…..So that begs for an answer as to why they’re not DL’d…..

  174. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    WHAT IS WITH THIS AVERSION TO THE DL?

    *****************

    The problem is that Cashman’s construction of the 40 man roster is atrocious – he doesn’t have any good position players on it because he fell in love with drafting pitchers that need arm surgery so he basically has crappy pitchers (like albaladejo) wasting a spot on the 40 man roster – and has no one that is major league ready to come up and compete for a few weeks at a time. Have you noticed he’s picked up tim redding and shane lindsay the last week just so he can have warm bodies playing in the minors?

  175. Jim May 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Didn’t the lineup score 7, 7, 3, 11, 6 runs since the injuries occurred?

    The lineup is not the problem… the bullpen is.

    3 consecutive games a lead was blown in the 8th inning.
    2 consecutive 5-run leads blown

    We’ll probably score some runs of Davis. But will the pen hold it? Will the pen hold the Mets down?

    That will determine whether win or not, not Chas Moller or Montero.

  176. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Don`t worry guys, Girardi is a Genius

  177. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    “So that begs for an answer as to why they’re not DL’d…..”

    Pat M-

    I think the answer is simple – either (A) the Yanks know what is wrong with them and think they will be better in a day or two, or (B) the Yanks don’t know what is wrong with them and don’t want to take the chance of losing them for 13 days (15, minus the backdate to Monday) when they didn’t have to.

  178. Andrew May 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    The “tonight’s lineup” threads have gotten as bad or worse than the game threads in terms of hysterics. Well done, everyone

  179. Big Pun May 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    The minors are very bear

    Nobody that can contribute – Rumolo Sanchez, Moller, Huffman, Dave Winfield, Albaladejo, Whelen, Sanit, Golson.

    No useful players at all. Cashman’s roster construction has been dreadful. Why do you think Boone Logan is still up here?

  180. Nick in SF in Larkspur May 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Pat M, actually, I was going to copy/paste your remarks myself… I think m’s offer (and my non-offer) are based on this comment you made in the last thread:

    “I wish I knew how to re post what I wrote early this morning when all was asleep……It expresses my feelings rather well about Joba”

    as well as the conclusion of your original post in which you hoped people would read it in the morning.

  181. Warning Track Power May 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    It may have been Monday night when Aaron Boone or someone on ESPN brought up the subject of a 7 day DL(just like the minors does).
    What a great idea.
    Have a 7 day DL for injuries just like Swisher and Jorge are going through right now.

  182. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Pat M, did you get my e-mail this morning?

  183. RayVT May 19th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Forntoso May 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    With the Mets pitching 2 lefties, (Fri & Sun), Swish would be available to start against them.

  184. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    If it`s all about the Pitching why not have 16 Pitchers and 9 position players.

  185. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    The ball hit Posada’s foot so hard it made his ears pop out even further

    Source: http://2000magazine.com/websig.....posada.jpg

  186. Bad Scooter May 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Did I miss something? Why wasn’t Golson in for defense late in the game last night? We had a lead. No need to keep Thames in for his bat.

  187. THE TRUTH May 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    What worries me about Swisher’s biceps injury is that bicep pain is often stems from an underlying shoulder problem (such as with a labrum). That could spell bad news for Swisher’s season.

  188. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    What does activating Moeller and Golson accomplish? Neither one of them can hit or provide positive value to the team. Yes, Moeller gives the team security in the event that Cervelli gets hurt. Most likely, though, Cervelli will be healthy until Posada is healthy and so they will just be two guys on the bench.

    Thames is atrocious in the field, but Golson was a terrible hitter in AAA, so I’m not sure what he brings to the table. Surely, Winn is a better option overall than Golson.

  189. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Jeter has to start to hit again, so does Tex and Cano

  190. tjd - Yankees again in 2010! May 19th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Golson in the lineup would keep Thames out of the outfield, that’s a run and a half per game right there.

  191. sar515 May 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    So who exactly is our bench???

    Sign Carlos DelGado…worth a shot.

  192. mick May 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    The minors are very bear

    Nobody that can contribute – Rumolo Sanchez, Moller, Huffman, Dave Winfield, Albaladejo,
    ====================
    Winfield is back? Bring him up!

  193. tjd - Yankees again in 2010! May 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    and why not just have swisher in there hitting righthanded?

  194. Worry Wart May 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Cashman raided the farm this winter for no reason.

    How good would Coke look in the pen now? He would be our best pitcher aside from MO.
    Jackson? He is breaking out in Detroit
    Melky is better than Thames, Winn, Golston.
    Kennedy? Trade bait for a reliever or bat this summer.
    Dunn? Can’t be worse than Boone Logan
    Bruney? A hard throwing righty wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world
    Gaudin? Can’t be worse than Joba.

    He got rid of valuable depth for no reason and has turned us into the Mets – a team with a top heavy roster that has AAA level players if a starter goes down who can’t contribute.

  195. Carl May 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    OrphanFunkhauser

    So lets keep Swish and Posada around doing nothing?

  196. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    The problem with Winn, he`s a nice guy but he`s not clutch.

  197. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    its not hysterics to wonder why posada has not been DLed yet. Tomorrow he may be better? So far he hasnt. As for Swisher, everytime he swings the bat, he says it hurts again. Not a good sign.

    We need 25 players who can play.

  198. Dallas Braden May 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    The Question is not why melancon, the question is why Logan?

  199. Johnson May 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Compare the Sox depth to ours and it isin’t even close.

    Sox have injuries and they have professional bats like Hermedia, McDonald, Hall, Varitek, Lowell on their bench and in the minors. I’d take Van Every over our bench too. We laughed at their depth, but it is a hell of a lot better than ours.

    Those guys can actually hit a fastball, unlike Randy Lose.

  200. The Question Is Moot May 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    I’ll take ‘Randy Winn, For The Loss’ for $200, Alex.

  201. The Question Is Moot May 19th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    posted that before I realized I was piling-on.

    whoops.

  202. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Golson in the lineup would keep Thames out of the outfield, that’s a run and a half per game right there.

    You cannot score half runs in baseball.

    Source: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/officia.....reword.jsp

  203. Bob Michaels May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    If the Yanks have to fix a problem, Cash will use Cash

  204. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Im thinking the same thing. If Swish’s only problem is hitting lefthanded, just bat righty vs. righty. Cannot be worse than what we have out there. He can play the field, throw and bat righty with no problem. So why not?

  205. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Carl,

    if Swisher and Posada are actually day-to-day, then it would be foolish to put them on the DL and lose them for a more substantial period of time. Every comment on here related to their injuries is pure speculation, and I’m sure that the Yankee staff has a much better understanding of the health of Posada and Swisher.

  206. G. Love May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    If Swisher and Posada are not healthy enough to play tonight, that means, at least to me, they will not be 100% for the weekend series, let alone this series.

    It’s time to stop massaging vets who look at the DL as some kind of punishment and put them there so we can have healthy alternatives.

    You DL someone you call Golson back up. DL Posada and to get a catcher up, I think you have to move someone off the 40 man.

    I’d rather have Jorge on the DL and a healthy catcher on the roster than Jonathan Albaladejo in the organization. He’s not a prospect. He’s filler.

    We can sign Bruney, Ramirez or Gaudin back to fill Alby’s role in the organization if need be. He’s certainly no better than any of those three.

  207. Macfan May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Why don’t the Yankees go ahead and put these guys on the DL, it is amazing to me that night after night we keep hearing these guys can’t play yet they are just sitting on the bench taking up a roster spot as though they are healthy.

    Last night if we had Golson still on the roster, Marcus Thames may not have been in that game at that time.

    I don’t understand why the Yankees are allowing this charade to go on every day about whether Posada or Nick Swisher can play or not.

    Either they can play or they cannot and just put them on the DL, its getting ludicrous with the same lameness every night.

  208. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    How good would Coke look in the pen now? Not good, he has a pretty ugly mohawk right now
    Jackson? He is breaking out in Detroit – luck
    Melky is better than Thames, Winn, Golston. no he’s not
    Kennedy? Trade bait for a reliever or bat this summer. trade bait for someone better than Granderson?
    Dunn? Can’t be worse than Boone Logan yes he can be worse
    Bruney? A hard throwing righty wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world romulo sanchez?
    Gaudin? Can’t be worse than Joba. yes he can be worse, was just dfa’d

  209. Nat May 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    We’re becoming like the Mets, in terms of handling injuries and roster construction.

    Why are hurt players not on the LD?

  210. YankFanDave May 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    “As for why he sent down Greg Golson to add Mark Melancon, Joe Girardi said, ‘We felt we needed the pitching more.’”

    So Joe, why didn’t you use the pitching that you thought you needed? And while we at it, how about keeping Golson and sending down Logan who’s performance is one of the reasons you thought you needed pitching.

    Finally ac1, you hit it on the nose.

  211. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Even if the yankees (obviously) know better than we do, we can all see that Posada and Swisher are not playing. And everyday its the same story. Foot still sore, tried to swing the bat and reagrevated it. I dont care if we put up 10 runs a game, this is still a bad idea to leave them both on the bench, posada especially.

  212. Jose May 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Errrrgh…Winn is so bad. I envisioned him striking out on that same exact type of fastball before it even happened last night. He is as useless as Morgan Ensberg was.

  213. Andrew May 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    “If Swisher and Posada are not healthy enough to play tonight, that means, at least to me, they will not be 100% for the weekend series, let alone this series.”

    How do you know this for sure exactly? Swisher can play against left handers and the Mets are starting 2 this weekend. DLing him when he could still be used on a limited basis and has reported progress with his injury even though he’s not all the healthy I do not support. If he doesn’t see action today or tomorrow it may be that he’s 100% from the left side.

    Posada is a different story, I am annoyed there isn’t more information about what is actually wrong with him besides the bottom of his foot is sore. He seems more like a DL candidate, especially if he isn’t better by tomorrow.

  214. Macfan May 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    “# OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Carl,

    if Swisher and Posada are actually day-to-day, then it would be foolish to put them on the DL and lose them for a more substantial period of time. Every comment on here related to their injuries is pure speculation, and I’m sure that the Yankee staff has a much better understanding of the health of Posada and Swisher.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The problem with that is what constitutes day to day. 1 second you’re hearing Posada could have played last night if the Yankees needed him to, Swisher would be back in the lineup tonight.

    The next night you hear Posada is off for an MRI, Swisher still experiencing bicep issues and isn’t in the lineup

    See the pattern here. Guys sitting on your bench and unable to play because they are hurt are of no use to the team if they cannot take the field.

    You have a 25 man active roster and they are taking up 2 valuable spots that could go to someone that could help the team in some capacity in the meantime if they cannot play.

  215. John Szarkowski May 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    can we please put pena in right field..sheesh..

  216. This Year May 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    NOW they are sending Jorge for a MRI? Why on earth have they waited so long? I understand the backdating to the day of injury for any stay on the DL, but we have been playing shorthanded for days. Why on earth would the Yankees delay knowing about the extent of the injury? Saving medical costs. This is ridiculous roster management. If Golson AND Melancon were here last night, we would have another W and the bosox would be demoralized and perhaps done. As it is, we have the same 6-9 tonight. Weren’t there any hospitals open today? Simply absurd.

  217. DT May 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Wonder what Burnett is thinking right now

    After watching the last 3 games, he has to know if he wants to get a win, he has to go all 8 innings and hand it off straight to MO. He hands it off to anyone else, chances are, he won’t get a win and the team might not either.

    If I’m AJ, I beg to stay in for the 8th inning. Why do I want Robertson, Marte, and Joba to give me a no decision?

  218. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    How do you know this for sure exactly?

    Crystal ball

    source: http://www.amazon.com/Crystal-.....B000VV2APQ

  219. Pat M. May 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Betsy, yes I did & I’m sorry for not responding ( I thought I had )…It was Tin Cup and not CB………Nick in SF, I’d archive that for now……There’s a game to be played and things have settled down and it’s better for all to move forward thinking with a positive mindset ……

  220. Kenny May 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Jorge goes for an MIR 4 days after he gets hurt? That is great management right there.

    Randy Winn is just an atrocious baseball player. Give me Kenny Lofton and Womack over this bum any day of the week.

  221. charlestonchew May 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    People are going crazy on this board. Our players are hurting like crazy, even the ones we have playing. But guess what? We’re winning games!

    I think the Yankees may have to call up Jesus Montero earlier than they want to if Posada goes on the DL. Sure, Moeller is a decent backup to our backup, but we’re starving for offense at this point with these injuries.

    Winn, Thames, and Cervelli will only hit in spurts. I know Cervelli and Thames have been showing us differently, but indications are that it won’t last forever. Montero has a ML ready bat. A bat is what we need. Granderson will be back soon, but Johnson’s probably out for the season. We don’t know what will happen with Swisher and Posada seems likely to be DLed.

    This is becoming dubious, but thank god we’ve got some offense in AAA (Miranda and Montero) to balance some of it out, if need be.

  222. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    He is as useless as Morgan Ensberg was

    ***********************

    But Morgan Ensberg is a hall of fame blogger, have you ever read his stuff? Simply brilliant!!!

  223. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    NOW they are sending Jorge for a MRI? Why on earth have they waited so long?

    He already had 1 MRi which revealed nothing. The top of his foot hurt, then that pain went away but some weird feeling persisted in the bottom of his foot.

  224. Macfan May 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    “We’re becoming like the Mets, in terms of handling injuries and roster construction.

    Why are hurt players not on the LD?”

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Tell me about it already, its like bizzarro world, 1 minute you hear a guy can play if needed, the next night he is going for an MRI.

    1 guy can swing right handed, but not left handed, yet we heard he could be back in the lineup tonight, followed by he still is experiencing bicep pain.

    Straight out of the Mutts book of Medical comedy. Just keep our fingers crossed that Granderson doesn’t end up like Beltran.

  225. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    “You have a 25 man active roster and they are taking up 2 valuable spots that could go to someone that could help the team in some capacity in the meantime if they cannot play.”

    Here’s where the pro-DL crowd is making their mistake. Moeller is not going to help. There are no catchers in the minors which the Yanks are going to call up who can help. And there are ways to get a defensive outfielder up here without DL’ing anyone. Golson/Huffman are not going to win games with their bat.

    If the Yanks knew what was wrong with Posada and Swisher and knew their injuries would last for two weeks, rest assured they would be on the DL. So the Yanks either know they won’t be out for two weeks, or don’t know either way and don’t want to take the chance for no good return.

  226. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    They needed extra arms in case of a rain delay that would cause them to lose CC early.

    Why bother with looking for common sense when conspiracy theories, public hangings and tar and feathers will do, not to mention finger pointing and psychological analysis, and it’s awfully amazing to me how the Yankees even exist as an organization, much less a winning one, considering they are, according to this blog, run by a bunch of imbeciles who know nothing.

    You are all sucking the life and fun out of being a fan.

  227. Chip May 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    If you want Gaudin back (or Edwar or Bruney for that matter) you can have them. All three have been Designated for Assignment.

    Any interest at all in Pat Burrell as a DH option? He would only cost something in the area of 300k. Personally I say pass, but I’m interested in other opinions on it.

  228. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    People are going crazy on this board. Our players are hurting like crazy, even the ones we have playing. But guess what? We’re winning games!

    ___

    Fortunately, however……

    with swish and posada unable to play, we are one in game injury away from a disaster.

  229. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Any interest at all in Pat Burrell as a DH option?

    Not a good fielder and Thames is probably a better hitter at this point.

  230. Kenny May 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Burrell > Randy Winn

    A cardboard cut out of Randy Winn > Randy Winn

  231. The Question Is Moot May 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    NOW they are sending Jorge for a MRI?

    ———————-

    The Nick Johnson Memorial MRI tube was booked solid, their hands were tied.

  232. 56Bomber May 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Marcus Thames > Pat Burrell

  233. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Most of the comments on this thread should be replaced with, “I’m trying to think but nothing happens!”

    So much stupid in such a short time

  234. ac1 May 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    If the Yanks knew what was wrong with Posada and Swisher and knew their injuries would last for two weeks, rest assured they would be on the DL. So the Yanks either know they won’t be out for two weeks, or don’t know either way and don’t want to take the chance for no good return.

    ___

    If it was just one of them i would agree to wait, but this is 2 of our 3 bench players. All that is available is Pena?

  235. raymagnetic (Who's Your Pap-py?!?!) May 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Jorge was hurt in Sunday, so exactly 2 days have passed since his injury.

  236. Macfan May 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    “Errrrgh…Winn is so bad. I envisioned him striking out on that same exact type of fastball before it even happened last night. He is as useless as Morgan Ensberg was.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Eek, don’t remind us. LOL

    Something about Randy Winn’s swing at the plate just annoys the heck out of me.

    He takes that oompa loompa swing and misses the ball

    Then when he strikes out he puts the bat between his arms and makes that goofy walk back to the dugout.

    Whenever he is up at bat I just zone out to something else and come to think of it his “DEFENSE” has not been much to write home about,

    I mean its like the guy has no range in the outfield, no wonder he doesn’t make errors, he never gets to the ball. :)

  237. pat May 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    YankeesInk CC just hit one out of the park while taking BP for interleague.

  238. MTU(aka GBURL) May 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Someone on the Yankees must have seriously PO’ed someone named Murphy.

    The only solution now is reverse Karma Induction.

    I will contribute my Rabbitt’s foot, horseshoe, four leaf clover, and my lucky rock from Wyoming.

    The more items we have the better. ;)

  239. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Johnson, your comments about the Red Sox depth is off-base

    By what definition is Darnell McDonald a professional hitter? The guy has not been able to crack the major leagues, with a career high of 47 games with the Reds(!) last season, where he posted a whipping .312 wOBA and an 85 wRC+.

    Jeremy Hermida is a dead average hitter and a below average fielder. In 2007 he was good with a wOBA of .372 and wRC+ of 127. But his next two seasons were .321/95, and .329/100. That’s not exactly anything to be in love with at the plate.

    Bill Hall has not produced at the quality of an average hitter since 2006 when he had a .369 wOBA and 125 wRC+. Since then, his numbers were .317/92, .297/80 and .261/56. Bill Hall has been atrocious at the plate over the last two seasons.

    Van Every is 30 with 52 plate appearances over his career. I don’t think he qualifies as a professional hitter.

    Mike Lowell is only on the team because no one else would take that contract.
    ———————-

    People are getting too worked up over the Randy Winn signing. At the time, it was a smart decision. He has been a plus-fielder over his career, and his terrible offensive production in 2009 could have been regarded as an off year.

    Here are his wOBA/wRC+ over the last few seasons

    2009: .302/82
    2008: .352/115
    2007: .350/112
    2006: .311/86
    2005: .367/129

    Yes, he is 36 years old, but there was plenty of evidence to suggest that here merely had an off-year at the plate and was poised to bounce back and return to his true talent levels of production. Combined with his defensive skills, and he would have been worth far more than the $2 million he got from Cashman.

    It just looks worse when four of the Yankee starters are out and they are all solid bats. When the team has to use four bench players, the depth begins to look very thin and suspect

  240. Bedminister May 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    So if the guy can swing right handed, why isin’t he in the lineup?

    Giardi can’t honestly believe Winn from the left side is better than Swish from the right side, does he? Swish’s OBP alone makes him much more valuable.

    Either Swisher is more hurt than we think or Girardi/Cashman have fallen off the deep end. If he can’t aggravate his bicep anymore, then why not play him? The only way he should not play is if they determine that batting righty will further hurt him.

  241. Cashman needs to go May 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Any interest at all in Pat Burrell as a DH option? He would only cost something in the area of 300k. Personally I say pass, but I’m interested in other opinions on it.

    *****************************

    Sadly the guy that replaced burrell on the rays, hank blalock, would have been an excellent pick up – left handed with alot of HR power – can play 1st and 3rd adequately and DH the rest of the time and was available until like March and is getting paid peanuts- but the genius cashman opted for randy winn and thames instead – I guess he thought that Nick Johnson was going to stay healthy all year

  242. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    And, to reiterate (again), the offense, injuries and all, is doing its job. They are scoring enough runs to win. The bullpen is not performing.

  243. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    “All that is available is Pena?”

    Yup. Like I said I’d call up Huffman for Logan but I guess the Yanks don’t agree.

  244. Y26 May 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    There is no such thing as an off-year for a mediocre ball player like Winn at age 36. He was finished and he is continuing to show it now.

  245. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Pat M, no – I was just wondering. I’m not home, so I haven’t been able to check. I was having issues with email, so I wanted to be sure you got it :)

  246. The Question Is Moot May 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Most of the comments on this thread should be replaced with, “I’m trying to think but nothing happens!”

    So much stupid in such a short time

    ————————————–

    Someone complaining about the content of the thread?

    You, sir, are a pioneer.

  247. Nick in SF on the streets of Larkspur May 19th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Fair enough, Pat M. I remain bullish on Joba, hopeful for the future. Not quite HOF hopeful, however.

  248. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) May 19th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Montero is not ready – he’s not even hitting at AAA.

  249. Trevor May 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    “YankeesInk CC just hit one out of the park while taking BP for interleague.”

    Maybe he can pinch hit tonight.

  250. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    MacFan,

    you are absolutely right that it becomes an issue when Girardi and the Yankees seem to have a different answer regarding the status of Posada and Swisher. if they are legitimately unable to play for a length of time, then they have to be placed on the DL. It’s just unfortunate that fans cannot get a clear answer from the Yankees as to the status of the players.

  251. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    raymagnetic and Orphan -

    It’s apparent that at least for today people are not interested in facts or common sense.

  252. Flash May 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Johnson,

    First off are you serious about the depth? First off you mention Varitek which is a joke. Anyone would take cervelli in a heart beat over Varitek. Hermida is the left handed version of Thames he can hit but can’t field. Mcdonald is a 4a player. Hall hasn’t been good since a few years ago and can’t field. I’d take over depth over theres any day.

    Worry Wart,
    Melkys been terrible. I liked Kennedy but he had no place here. AJax is good but hes no Granderson. Dunn can’t throw a strike. Bruney was released by the Nats because he just isn’t good. Gaudin was terrible in a pitchers park in Oakland. Cashman didn’t even come close to turning us into the mets. Comments like this from moronic fans such as you is why people hate Yankee fans. If theres one thing we are thanks to Cashman and the job hes done putting this team and the farm system together over the years is deep. But you wouldn’t know this because you obviously aren’t a smart baseball fan and don’t follow the rest of the league. Become a fan of some other teams then come back and complain about this depth.

  253. Macfan May 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    “# Kenny May 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Burrell > Randy Winn

    A cardboard cut out of Randy Winn > Randy Winn”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFL, at least it won’t swing and miss. :)

  254. Erin May 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    pat May 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    YankeesInk CC just hit one out of the park while taking BP for interleague.

    ************************
    Perfect solution-have CC pinch hit. ;)

  255. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Why do the fans need a clear answer from the Yankees about the status of their players. They really don’t owe the details, just the general condition.

  256. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Someone complaining about the content of the thread?

    You, sir, are a pioneer.

    Stop trying to be funny, it’s not working

  257. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    “It’s just unfortunate that fans cannot get a clear answer from the Yankees as to the status of the players.”

    Loose Lips Sink Ships.

  258. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    We should play Mo in Center and Sabathia at DH

  259. Carlo May 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Can someone call ELIAS and find out the record for most games by a single player on a 25 man roster while being completely incapable of playing? Posada has missed over a dozen games already this year and has yet to go on the DL. He can’t DH in Citi this weekend, so what’s the point of continuing to absord a roster spot with a guy incapable of playing? For the love of God DL the guy and call up an outfielder. We are playing with one catcher now the way it is. If he is totally incapable of even pinch hitting, then there is no way he can catch.

  260. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Stop trying to be funny, it?s not working

    In this case the ‘source’ will be, every post that wasn’t posted containing “lol” I see none, so must not be funny.

  261. Grey 45 May 19th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    The only bench guy who really sucks is Winn and to a lesser extent, Pena.

    Thames has surpassed expectations. He just can’t field.
    Cervelli is one of our best hitters so far
    Miranda had a nice game yesterday.
    Golson is a defensive replacement.

    Winn is the weak link that is killing us, the other guys are fine. Have to live with Thames in the field, unless you want a bottom of the order of Miranda-Cervelli-Golson-Winn.

  262. The Question Is Moot May 19th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Stop trying to be funny, it’s not working

    —————

    You’re point, much like your existence, is moot.

  263. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    # Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    “It’s just unfortunate that fans cannot get a clear answer from the Yankees as to the status of the players.”

    Loose Lips Sink Ships.
    ———————————————–
    I’m not saying that I want the Yankees to be more forthcoming with the status of the players. I meant that it was unfortunate with regards to discussion among the fans. It’s hard to argue the moves that the Yankees should make or should have made when the fans do not work with the same information as the people in the organization.

    Make no mistake: I would much, much rather the Yankees operate more cryptically and keep their cards close to the vest.

  264. Trevor May 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Girardi just said the long man tonight is Logan and Malancon. “They can throw 100 pitches between the 2 of them”

  265. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Winn is not killing us.

    The bullpen blew a lead 3 games in a row and they lost 2 of those games. They scored enough runs in all three games to win (with the exception of the first game, when it was only 3-1 when Joba and Mo gave it away).

    Winn is not hitting well. I wouldn’t go out on a limb right now to defend Winn wholeheartedly, but Winn is not killing us.

  266. Patrick May 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    You’re point, much like your existence, is moot

    I don’t see how cows enter into this discussion.

    source: Friends

  267. Macfan May 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    “# Y26 May 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    There is no such thing as an off-year for a mediocre ball player like Winn at age 36. He was finished and he is continuing to show it now.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Fully agree I usually cut players a lot of slack, but what we are seeing from Randy Winn is no off year issue, it is he is a player in rapid decline.

    Once in a while he’ll get a couple of knocks, but he reeks having to be out there every single night for the New York Yankees.

    I don’t mind Thames, he is hitting, which is his job as a DH, he was forced into the field because of Girardi’s decision to put him out there. Thames is not a starting outfielder for any team.

    Winn on the other hand is a different ballgame, he just reeks to hog heaven with a bat in his hand.

    How many of us were just cringing when it was him up last night with the winning run on 2nd and 3rd and 2 outs. I would have rather anyone else in that spot.

    I personally cannot wait for him to go back to being buried on the bench, as he was in the early part of the season when no one had to mention his name.

    Sorry I just don’t think highly of the guy with a bat in his hand, he stinks.

  268. The Question Is Moot May 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    It’s an irrefutable fact, and I mean that in a Camus, Kierkagaard sort of way.

    Stop trying to play the Goddamn blog critic.

  269. Jerkface May 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Winn is not hitting well. I wouldn?t go out on a limb right now to defend Winn wholeheartedly, but Winn is not killing us.

    But having Winn + a bad bullpen is much worse than having someone more useful than winn + a bad bullpen.

    :)

    yea, the bullpen is the real issue right now, but having upgrades where Winn, pena, and thames(defensively) stand right now would be great and help take the pressure off the bullpen with potentially more run scoring/better defense.

  270. Jay May 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    New Post

  271. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Winn was never a mediocre player and that is the problem. He was an above average hitter who played plus-defense. He was a good player for a number of years. He had a similar season in 2006 that he had in 2009. It seems that last year was an indication that Winn has lost it at the plate due to age. However, given his off year in 2006 and his resurgence in 2007 and 2008, there was reason to believe that he could bounce back at the plate. He was very good in 2008 (combining offense and defense).

    For $2 million and only one year, he was certainly worth the risk. It’s just hard to anticipate that Johnson, Posada, Swisher, and Granderson would all be out of the lineup at the same time.

  272. Carlo May 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    I have never seen a manager, with 4 potential #1 starters on his staff, be so concerned with having a long man. Joseph, my friend, the long man is a mop up guy. By the time u need a long man the game is usually over. Stop fretting about freaking long relievers and get an outfielder who can catch the baseball.

  273. Carlo May 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    I have never seen a manager, with 4 potential #1 starters on his staff, be so concerned with having a long man. Joseph, my friend, the long man is a mop up guy. By the time u need a long man the game is usually over. Stop fretting about long relievers and get an outfielder who can catch the baseball.

  274. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    But jerkface -

    There are none. :)

    So what is the point of a 2-day harangue about roster construction, etc.? Venting? How long does the venting go on?

    Winn was not supposed to be playing every day, nor was Thames. You can foresee some things and I believe the depth was fine if the normal bumps and bruises and rest days is occurring.

    NO GM can plan for this.

    I mean even Colin Curtis, who would have been at least an okay candidate as a backup backup is injured. You can’t make this stuff up, nor can you really plan for it.

  275. Sharkdaddy May 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Posada should be the every day DH. He is a better hitter than Nick J., has more power, and is a switch hitter. His catching days are over, he is becoming so brittle he can’t stay healthy for more that 2 days. Besides, Francisco Cervelli is better defensively & calls a better game.

    Put Swish on the DL, between him & Posada they are taking up 2 roster spots and contributing nothing to the team.

    Why take Tex’s gold glove out of the field tonight? Can’t we DH him after this short 2 game series with the Ray’s. I mean we are only playing a division rival who happens to be 3 games in front of us right now. Should’nt we have the best lineup in there for these next 2 days, considering that we are already without Granderson, Posada, Johnson, & Swisher.

    Just saying, you know….

  276. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Orphan -

    I believe you. :) I’m afraid most of today’s audience isn’t listening to that.

  277. OrphanFunkhauser May 19th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Thanks Doreer


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