Postgame notes: Yankees staff continues to struggle
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on May 20, 2010 
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The Yankees have scored six runs in each of their past three games. They’ve won none of them. They’ve put together some sort of late inning rally every time, and they’ve always fallen short.
“We battled back in every game here,” Joe Girardi said. “We scored runs. We just gave up too many.”
Pitching let the Yankees down this home stand. Aside from those first two games against the Twins, the pitching staff struggled in one form or another in five straight games. Tonight it was Andy Pettitte who had by far his worst start of the year, but said he actually didn’t feel too bad. The cutter that Carlos Pena hit for a home run was “just a horrible pitch,” but B.J. Upton went deep on a changeup that Pettitte was pretty happy with and Ben Zobrist homered on a sinker that Pettitte located where he wanted.
“I think they had a pretty good approach against me,” Pettitte said. “For Ben to hit the ball that he hit, he had to be thinking out there and staying out there. Most guys don’t run into the ball and hit it that far the other way like that… I feel like if I didn’t have anything I should be able to go out there and hold them to seven runs. Tonight I felt pretty decent. Definitely a frustrating night, that’s for sure.”
Here’s Joe Girardi’s postgame media session.
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• One pitching bright spot was David Robertson, who looked positively dominant again. Two perfect innings with four strikeouts. “He’s thrown the ball better definitely the past few outings,” Girardi said. He seems to be getting back to that form that he had last year.”
• Two offensive bright spots: Three hits from Derek Jeter and another home run from Juan Miranda.
• One big picture bright spot: Curtis Granderson feels good. “So far, no setbacks,” he said. He believes it’s possible — though he admits this is optimistic — that he could get into a rehab game next week.
• I don’t have numbers to back this up, but the Yankees seem to be swinging early in the count quite a bit. “At times guys will do that,” Girardi said. “If you go up and take the first pitch all the time, just throw strike one and now you’re ahead of our hitters. I think hitters can’t fall into just one pattern of hitting. At times they have to be aggressive.”
• Nick Swisher said he felt no pain tonight, but he was disappointed by his two strikeouts. “My first few at-bats weren’t what I was expecting,” Swisher said. “My left side’s still a click off.”
• Chad Moeller got to the stadium around 6:30 after battling traffic from the airport.
• Mike Ashmore is reporting that the Yankees have signed catcher Rene Rivera to a minor league deal and assigned him to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
Associated Press photos of Francisco Cervelli and Juan Miranda.
Takahashi hasn?t pitched a full game since spring training. The Mets bullpen is burned out, and if this is his first start he won?t last that long.
The Yankees need to take advantage.
How to feel better about the Yankees:
Look at how utterly awful the Arizona bullpen is
http://www.baseball-reference......2010#sprel
Also keep Joba out of the game. The guy stinks and I don’t trust him one bit.
CC and AJ have struggled lately, but Andy and Phil are certainly allowed their struggles – and these were their first bad outings.
Definitely good news on Granderson and Swish…..but we still need to get Tex going.
Thnx, Chad. Even a little bit of good news helps.
Javy, Hughes, CC. Good thoughts, Yankee people.
I continue to be bullish on Cervelli, behind the plate.
Joe should have used Joba today so he won’t make the team look bad against the Mets. Now we have to deal with Joba coming into an important game.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.1926824
A few dozen lucky fans chose the right time and turnstile to enter Yankee Stadium yesterday. Once they walked inside, Curtis Granderson was standing there offering to shake hands and pose for photographs.
The Yankees did this regularly with various players last season, but it’s hard to imagine anybody embracing this job more than Granderson did yesterday.
Dressed in a Yankees hat, dark blue workout shirt and uniform pants, the Yankees’ injured centerfielder repeatedly broke the ice by introducing himself to each person, fan after fan. He was so outgoing as he engaged in small talk that you almost expected him to walk with them to their seats.
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Hearing him say “Hi, I’m Curtis Granderson” dozens of times seemed fitting, in a way, considering just how far off the radar he’s been since he suffered a groin injury May 1. So many of his teammates have come down with injuries since then that it’s almost as if his absence has been, well, forgotten.
That’s not typical for a player who falls under the category of “Yankees’ top offseason acquisition,” but Granderson also is far from your typical ballplayer. He has proven that with the way he views his time on the disabled list.
It would be perfectly normal if he were itching to get back, especially considering he was hitting just .225 (18-for-80) when he got hurt. The pressure of living up to perceived expectations here have gotten to bigger names in their first Yankees season.
But Granderson doesn’t seem to be the least bit concerned about having his Yankees career put on hold one month in with a stay on the disabled list. Perhaps more importantly, it doesn’t seem as though he will look to make up for missed time when he returns in a few weeks. He’s accepted his situation and says he has moved on, and it’s easy to believe him.
“Once you’re on the disabled list, you can’t really do anything about it,” he said minutes before his meet-and-greet with fans. “There’s no use beating yourself up over it, anyway.”
That’s a logical and reasonable approach to the DL, but not every player handles the forced downtime with such poise. These players made it to the highest athletic level in part because they are superbly competitive by nature. So playing the waiting game doesn’t usually come easy.
That’s why the upbeat persona Granderson has exuded this month has surprised people. “A lot of people when I come in here, they say, ‘Man, you’re really in good spirits,’ ” Granderson said. “But you know what? When the injury happened and I went to get the MRI, there was the potential of it being a lot worse.”
Granderson has been taking batting practice on the field and extra swings in the cage and senses his return is close. General manager Brian Cashman said Thursday that the team has begun mapping out a minor-league rehab plan for Granderson, beginning with games at designated hitter to ease him in.
“We want to be careful. We won’t rush this,” Cashman said.
Getting Granderson to accept that won’t be an issue. As his teammates have gone down with injuries seemingly by the day, people in the clubhouse have been half-jokingly asking Granderson how many innings he could give the team on a given night.
But he doesn’t even play along. Answering “what if” questions does no one any good, he said, and then he pointed to Marcus Thames’ walk-off home run off Boston’s Jonathan Papelbon Monday night as an example.
“If the roles were reversed and I was in there, who knows? Maybe I would have struck out,” Granderson said.
Then he shook his head. “You can never look at it like that . . . The way I look at stuff is, I look at all the positives.”
How can you not love Granderson?
Rebecca-
Whos the D-Backs closer this year? Is it Pena? That looked like such a promising team in 2007. They were young and running away with that division. Amazing how things change…
The game tomorrow night will come down to one simple thing: can javy vazquez give us a quality start (6 innings, 3 runs or less). If he does.we win
Maine got hurt in the 1st inning today, so the Mets pen pitched 8.1 innings today.
Carl Crawford don’t come to the Yankees, it’s a surefire way to not be able to hit. Look at TEX
HE’S ON VACATION!
We better win this series against the Mets. First of all they stink. Second, I don’t want to here any Met fans talking trash. The Yankees should show no mercy.
“How can you not love Granderson?”
Nice guy, but he can’t hit lefties, strikes out too much, and we gave up Austin Jackson and other good pieces for him.
ok some thoughts on the game tomorrow,
-facing a pitcher on a pitch count, doesnt know the lineup well and is pushed into a spot start basically. good for the yanks
-its the mets. good for the yanks
-No DH, which sucks because now Winn will see playing time all weekend.
-javier is a great NL pitcher. he will shut the mets down like nobody’s business.
The Mets pen is burned out. I watched some of their games and Manuel has already burned out the pen. The Yankees need to get to that pen and it’s game over.
I like that Curtis dude.
doing the meet and greet inside the stadium gates.
if Nick Johnson did that he’d get mauled.
and not the good kind.
The Mets make a lot of pitchers look like Cy Young. Trust me their lineup stinks when they face even C level pitching.
Yankees need more than 6 from the pitcher. The words out, GET TO THE PEN , so you’re guaranteed a win..
LOL Ok Al
lol man, can u imagine Nick out there doing that?
‘Hi I’m Ni….PUNCH!!
Mets will be nice medicine for our woes.
Everyone has beaten them lately – the Nationals, Braves, Marlins, Reds, everyone. If we don’t, it is not a good sign.
My gosh, CB, Pat M, Sj44, Betsy, Trisha, will somebody save me from the morons on this blog??
Here we are in May and already we’re ready to throw half the team under the bus, and start playing for the WC.
Didn’t we play worse than this last year at this time? And were we not hearing from the same critics last year? “This one’s on Girardi, why did Cashman hire him?” “Jeter is through.” “Posada needs to retire.” “Pettite is washed up.” “We’ll be lucky to win the WC.”
These people never learn, they just never learn.
Al
Yeah Austin Jackson is really that great ! Not !
And IPK is alright in the NL WEST which is like pitching in the minors. If he was pitching in the AL East he would have a 5.00-6.00 ERA. Yeah those were some great guys.
Pepitone
Simply log off the computer, that’s your salvation!
I’m not saying that Austin Jackson is crap but the guy is hitting over is head and he is coming down to earth. Too many Strikeouts and no power.
Remember when Francessa kept talking about this “wonderful week of baseball”? It’s turning into a week from hell!!!
Pepitone
That’s why I don’t come on the game threads anymore. Too many idiots on here. Also they act like the Yankees need to win every game and if they make even one mistake they are all losers.
It’s May. Calm Down !
Teams have weeks like this so if you can’t handle it then stop watching sports and find a hobby.
We stink right now, hopefully the Mets will help us get better. Teams go thru slumps, we’re in one now.
Love the Subway Series.
How can you not? It is exciting for the city, exciting for the fans, and the games have a postseason feel to it. When you win, it is fun to hear the whiny Mets fans on the radio and at your office. The ballparks are filled up and it is an intense series.
It is also different because it is an NL game so the rules are different and we have to manage with strategy – pinch hitting, the pitcher hitting, bunting, etc.
Fun fun series for everyone involved.
Movies are great when you go in w/low expectations, and are more than presently surprised at how much you enjoy yourself?
It’s compounded when that movie stars Nicholas Cage. I mean, Leaving Las Vegas certainly exceeded my expectations, but overall he’s just one step above Keanu Reeves in terms of acting ability. Right?
Anyway, just finished Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans and it worked for me. It’s mad, absolutely bonkers, but it works.
If you’re the type who can watch a depraved man w/out turning away, I recommend it.
funny, the yankees have the 2nd best record in ALL of baseball.
in here, youd think they were near the bottom of the AL WEST.
meant to write ‘pleasantly surprised’
obviously
I’m pleasantly surprised with how well the offense is performing.
Everything will be fine. Vazquez will go 8 innings against that crap team and a good taste will be back in everyone’s mouth.
Trust me, I’m frustrated. I’m in a terrible mood right now. But I think things are going to turn for the better this weekend.
I like the Subway Series as well. Especially when the Yankees win. The Yankees need to take the Mets out and show no mercy in this series.
duh. May 21st, 2010 at 12:10 am
Pepitone
Simply log off the computer, that’s your salvation!
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Gee, thanks duh, but I wasn’t aware that my computer was after me.
Maybe my computer’s a Devil Rays fan?
Jeremy said: “Teams have weeks like this so if you can’t handle it then stop watching sports and find a hobby.”
The problem is, Jeremy, I believe dumping on the Yanks is their hobby.
When Mo blew two saves in a row, it kicked the team in the gut.
pepitone
Got your knickers in a bunch, eh?
Mo didn’t blow two saves in a row. He blew one. And the game against the Sox was tied beacause of overrated Joba. The defense also blew it.
“Mo didn’t blow two saves in a row. He blew one. And the game against the Sox was tied beacause of overrated Joba. The defense also blew it.”
lol, so true
sorry- because
And when will some people start blaming Joba for what happened against the Sox. He had a 4 run lead and he is the set up man and he couldn’t even hold it. It seems like some people want to blame Mo when they should blame that arrogant, overrated Joba.
To all you Joba haters, who exactly do you want to pitch in a close game? Logan is awful, Robertson has been terrible all year (even though he pitched well tonight), Park is getting smacked around, and Marte is a lefty specialist. Whether you like it or not, Joba is still our most reliable reliever besides Mo. This bullpen sucks right now. We need Joba to get on track. Even though he had a couple awful outings, he is still better than anyone else we have.
not Joba, he sucks.
Joba Tips his Cap,
So who? Maybe the Yankees should just let Swisher pitch. Is that what you want?
Joba is not reliable at all. He is just as bad as the rest and to say he is reliable is a farce.
Also Joba has not improved over the past couple of years he has gone from bad to worse. The guy does nothing for this team right now. He couldn’t handle the rotation and he can’t even handle the pen. The guy is overrated and arrogant.
Jeremy(Joba needs to go) May 21st, 2010 at 12:34 am
sorry- because
And when will some people start blaming Joba for what happened against the Sox. He had a 4 run lead and he is the set up man and he couldn’t even hold it. It seems like some people want to blame Mo when they should blame that arrogant, overrated Joba.
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Where was this idiotic tag-line after your name or the equally idiotic remarks when Chamberlain was shutting everyone down in 8 straight appearances?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci.....visor.html
mix up in the 8th, and I still hope Chan Ho can be better.
People need to stop making excuses for Joba and face the facts. The guy right now is a mess and he thinks he is so great. He can’t even control his mechanics.
duh. May 21st, 2010 at 12:28 am
pepitone
Got your knickers in a bunch, eh?
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Not really.
But, I don’t appreciate baseball ignorance spewing vile all over a Yankee blog. Got it?
Joba:
FIP: 2.39
xFIP: 2.94
HR/9: 0.49
K/9: 10.80
Avg FB velo: 93.8
I’m not sure what people are complaining about. He may struggle at times, most pitchers do, but overall he has pitched well.
GreenBeret7
No. I have had issues with Joba for a long time. And it’s about his arrogance, lack of maturity, and his performance getting worse over a 2 year span. I think he should be sent down to the minors.
I think this team is in good shape but Joba has become an issue. And that is a fact !
Joba Tips his Cap,
So you would rather Logan, Robertson, and Park in the 8th? This team needs a set up guy. Joba has done it before and he can do it again. So what if he had a couple bad games. Mo had some bad games too.
GreenBeret7
Also my remarks are not idiotic. If I’m wrong then provide some evidence that Joba has improved over the past 2 years ?
Also will you stop attacking me for no good reason.
Dylan
You make a great point about the other arms in the pen. But Joba is not the same guy he was in 2007-2008 pre Texas injury. That guy is gone !
Joba is an average pitcher at best. When he got voted the most overrated player in the game today it was true. The guy has been hyped up by the media.
GB7 – Chamberlain does have issues, but I agree, you don’t give up on someone that young this soon in his career.
I said this in Spring Training: I didn’t have a problem saying goodbye to Damon, and Jackson may be the real deal, and he may not; it’s too early to tell.
But, not signing Matsu was a huge mistake by Cashman. In my opinion he’s the best clutch hitter in baseball. I know, I know, there is nothing we can do about it now; he’s gone, and I still believe we win even without him. But, his loss is going to hurt. It probably already has.
For the last week the only ones doing their jobs on a consistant basis have been the bench players that are now playing full time. Jeter is hitting under .200 for May with next to zero run production before tonight. Teixeira’s not hitting except for a brief spurt, the starters are getting hammered, limited power from Rodriguez until this past week. except for Mitre and Vazquez in their last starts, outfield defense has been shabby and errors are costing big run totals, the bullpen, 1-7 has been terrible, but one idiot figures that this is all on one player. What intelligence.
Jeremy(Joba needs to go),
So did you want him gone when he was pitching well in the playoffs last year and helped this team a World Series? Its amazing how quick fans forget. He had a couple bad outings, but his stuff is just as good as it was in 07.
It’s a tough situation when it comes to the pen. I hope it can be fixed like last season. But Hughes was the one who made that pen great.
Remember that game last May that the Yanks ‘really needed to win’ but lost?
Yeah, me either.
May game – Spring
WS game – Fall
You could go into a coma, pull a miraculous recovery, go through rehab and still catch a 2010 World Series game.
Not that I’m wishing that on anyone, but you get my point.
No season ending injuries to this point, and in the race.
Game on.
Robertson, Marte > Joba
Joba is overrated and Girardi only uses him because of his name and pressure from the organization to get something out of him.
Correction: ***limited power from Rodriguez until this past week, the starters are getting hammered except for Mitre and Vazquez in their last starts***
GreenBeret7,
The things people say on this site! People are asking for the Yankees to get rid of Jeter and Tex for crying out loud. One guy even said to get rid of Mo! The short term memory of these so called “fans” is astounding. Half a year ago, these guys were helping us win a World Series! Unbelievable…
GreenBeret7
I never said that it was all Chamberlain’s fault. So stop putting words in my mouth and read !
Also stop calling me names just because I don’t agree that Joba is some great pitcher because he is not. Someone said that Mo was to blame for the lose to the Sox so I said that Chamberlain was the main one at fault which was true. Read next time !
Good evening GB
I hope you are well. It is always interesting how a rough streak with either the Yankees or the Red Sox invariably will bring out the fans who swear the sky is falling.
Sure, Chamberlain is going through a tough time right now. But I can’t recall a single pitcher who does not have some ups and downs. A few years back even Toronto sent Halladay down to work on a few days.
You are wise to want to hang on to Joba. Oh wait. I take that back. He is obviously terrible so I think you should let the Sox have him!
“Robertson, Marte > Joba”
You mean combined? Because this season, Joba has been much better than either of them.
Vazquez is facing an NL team tomorrow ! He should do fine ! If he doesn’t then skip him again his next turn in the rotation !
They also have a burnt out bullpen !
Stone Man,
Please tell me you are kidding! Robertson has an ERA over 7! This is the first good outing he has had ALL YEAR. And Marte is a lefty specialist. Go to sleep and get some rest. Your brain obviously isn’t functioning properly right now!
Dylan
His stuff is not the same. If you watch the games you can see that he is not the same guy as he was back in 2007-2008. Also Joba was not that good in the playoffs and Hughes was the one who really helped this team last year.
Matsui is not doing well right now, but, Scioscia is really screwing up by giving him outfield time and not giving him a day off a week. He’s never going to beg out of a game because his knees are aching. It’s really unconscionable on Scioscia’s part.
Javy should pitch NORMALLY tomorrow night.
night all.
ray
That is what I’m saying. Joba needs to go down to the minors and work on his stuff. I never said to get rid of him but to send him down. The guy feels like the Yankees owe him something and that the set up role is his alone. He needs to learn that he has to earn it.
ray (sox fan),
Thank you for bringing some common sense to the Yankees blog! Its unbelievable how quick fans are to jump on and off the bandwagon. Every pitcher goes through rough spots. Every hitter has slumps. Its just part of the game. Thank you for spreading your wisdom. Hopefully it will rub off on some of these irate Yankees fans lol.
“Matsui is not doing well right now, but, Scioscia is really screwing up by giving him outfield time and not giving him a day off a week. He’s never going to beg out of a game because his knees are aching. It’s really unconscionable on Scioscia’s part.”
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No, he will never ask to be left out of the line up because he’s a competitor. But, I heard he wanted to play somewhere where he could play some in the outfield, well he got his wish.
I think, if indeed Cashman offered him a fair contract, he should have stayed in New York as a full-time DH. It would have saved his knees and extended his career. But, oh well, that’s all water under the bridge now.
Dylan
I hope that you are not calling me an irate fan. I just don’t like Joba’s attitude and the fact that he has not been getting worse over the years is troubling.
I like this Yankee team and I even told some people to calm down about us losing to the Rays because teams slump. But you can’t ignore and be a blind homer when Joba has been getting worse not better.
Jeremy(Joba needs to go),
“His stuff is not the same. If you watch the games you can see that he is not the same guy as he was back in 2007-2008. Also Joba was not that good in the playoffs and Hughes was the one who really helped this team last year.”
Hughes was great during the regular season, but it was Joba who was lights out in the playoffs. Hughes had an ERA of 8.53 and Joba had an ERA of 2.84. That just proves my point even more. Hughes was terrible in the playoffs, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a great pitcher. He just had a rough couple games, just like Joba is having now.
ray (sox fan) May 21st, 2010 at 1:00 am
Good evening GB
I hope you are well. It is always interesting how a rough streak with either the Yankees or the Red Sox invariably will bring out the fans who swear the sky is falling.
Sure, Chamberlain is going through a tough time right now. But I can’t recall a single pitcher who does not have some ups and downs. A few years back even Toronto sent Halladay down to work on a few days.
You are wise to want to hang on to Joba. Oh wait. I take that back. He is obviously terrible so I think you should let the Sox have him!
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Evening Ray. How are things up in the Last Frontiere. Hope all is well. Never did ask, but, did you take your family along on this working vacation? Anybody wanting you to stop so they can pan for gold?
You have got to post your pix when you get back. They should be spectacular.
I’ve pretty much stayed off of here during games. All it’s done is draw out the trolls, whiners, idiots and worse. I swear that 90% of them have never watched baseball over a full season and are aged 10. Chamberlain, Rivera and the rest age going through the same thing that Papelbon and the Boston pen went through earlier.
Be safe out there and don’t believe that old line about cuddly bears. Not all of them are as funny as Yogi and Boo Boo. If you think you see a wolf stalking you, don’t shoot. It’s just “Killer” looking for some food and a tire.
sorry-he has been getting worse over the years is troubling.
How can you guys trust Joba after his last 2 implosions?
At this point, I’d put Melancon in the game tomorrow over Jobs.
Where were all my fellow anti-Bostoners tonight?
I didnt see any!
Darn it! I wanted a sizable lead over the Red Sox and Rays going into the World Cup in June.
Please God deliver that sizable lead to me!
Dylan
You are correct. But If I recall Joba was bailed out more times than not during the postseason. In the ALDS, ALCS, and World Series he gave up a number of runs with runners already on base. His mechanics were all over the place, and his velocity was down.
So the line doesn’t tell the whole story.
Jeremy(Joba needs to go),
I was actually referring to the fans who wanted Mo, Jeter, and Tex gone, but I do think you are overreacting when it comes to Joba. He is 24 years old and has been very consistent in the bullpen for the most part. This is the first time he has struggled in the bullpen. He hasn’t even been bad for most of the year. His first couple games and his last couple games have been bad, but for most of the year he has been great. He is struggling now but I am very confident that he will turn it around. He is way better than anyone else we have. To suggest that he “needs to go” is foolish.
“How can you guys trust Joba after his last 2 implosions?”
Is this a joke? He has pitched well for the vast majority of his appearances this season (look at his Game Log below), yet because of two outings he can’t be trusted?
What’s wrong with some you?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....erId=28847
“Darn it! I wanted a sizable lead over the Red Sox and Rays going into the World Cup in June.
Please God deliver that sizable lead to me!”
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CR9…um…um…….didn’t you know God is a Red Sox fan?
Just yanking your chain a little!!!!
We are here, CR9. We were just waiting for you to arrive. We didn’t want to talk about the city of stranglers, slime, crime, peter gammons, buster onley before you showed up!
And GreenBeret7 just attacks people who don’t agree with him and then says nothing when they respond. I’m not a troll or an idiot I just have an issue with Joba.
we’re not going to have a sizeable lead over BOS until this team gets its head out of it’s rear end.
we might not even have a lead in a couple of weeks if these clowns don’t wake up!!! we are not paying the highest ticket prices in baseball to watch games like i did tonight.
I’m going to make a prediction -
I say the Devil Rays will be knocked out of first place by the first week of August. They Yankees will go on a roll after the All-Star Break, catch them that first week of August, and never look back.
You can print that and keep it for future reference.
So, let it be written, so let it be done.
See ya.
John
Not tonight! Im too calm. I gotta change things up for good luck for the Yanks. I must be doing something wrong, for all these injuries to be occurring!
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Ray
I know you’re just pulling my chain!
But in all seriousness, God loves the good in this world, the Yankees. Satan loves the evil, the Red Sox. WHy else would Miroslav Satan sign with the Bruins!!
Dylan
I don’t thing we should get rid of him, but we should send him down to the minors. I guess that I have been sick of some of his performances of late and then the interview where he says you have to tip your cap and all that stuff.
I should change my name to Joba needs to go to the minors so people won’t think I’m some troll.
CR9 – Who are you rooting for in the world Cup? Chelsea? Man U? Barcelona?
Seems like I never left here…
Hey GB, hope all is well buddy.
So folks are ready to cut, trade and dismember the team already – and it’s not even the All Star Break. Sheesh!
Starting rotation will be fine. Bullpen does need some work though. Not a fan of Logan (reminds me of a lefty Farnsworth). Don’t know what the heck is wrong with Melancon, but I hope he gets it together back in Scranton. Joba, well he needs some work too, but I think he’ll be fine eventually.
It’s the hitting and defense that’s been suspect. Earlier in the season I stated that if this team scores 7 runs – they win. More times than not, that’s exactly right. But with Jeter, Tex and substitutes playing regularly, run production hasn’t been reliable.
Anyway, just stopped by for a bit, as I’ve been busy with work, and it’s almost our 1 yr wedding anniversary, so been spending that quality time whenever possible. See ya’ll soon!
Saint
CR9 – Tell us, whatever happened to that “10 blonde” who you lied to about being a Pats fan?
Lance
Uhhh, World Cup is not club soccer, it’s country, lol. England for Rooney I guess. Dutch for Van Der Sar. Italy, because Im half Italian, and Brazil, because they are the Yankees of country football!
Jeremy(Joba needs to go),
I understand you are frustrated. How could you not be? I was furious with Joba after he blew that Red Sox game. But the reality is we don’t have anyone better than him right now. If we send him down, someone like Melancon (who is much worse) would take his place. If anyone should go, its Boone Logan. And I agree that you should change your name. It does make you look a bit like the other bipolar trolls that are all over this blog lol.
The Mets suck! They are going to fire their manager and they can’t hit. They also have no bullpen and their starter is being limited to 85 pitches. I want pain this weekend!
Yank 87
What do you mean, what happened? There have been quite a few of them, and all but 2 ended up with a ‘happy ending.’
I’m still ticked off for Tuesday’s loss.
even though these Tampa games mean more in the standings at the moment, I’m not even that upset we got swept – it happens. But the Boston game was just a killer.
“Brazil, because they are the Yankees of country football!”
and their women
(or men
)
Dylan
You make a great point. we don’t have anyone better right now. Some guys are going to have to step up. The team can’t rely on just a great offense and starting pitching.
I think the Yankees will do fine against the Mets this weekend.
Jimmy Dean
My
Entire
Team
Sucks
Jeremy(Joba needs to go),
I agree. The pitching is whats killing this team as of late, and the Yankees will have a hard time putting up a ton of runs at Citi Field. Maybe the Yankees can bring someone like Nova up. He looked decent and he couldn’t really be much worse than Logan.
The Mets pen is really running on fumes right now, and even average pitchers look like Cy Young against Los Mets. The Yankees should take this series.
Dylan
The Yankees approach should not be focused on homeruns at Citi. They can score some runs but they have to work the counta and move runners over.
I agree they should call someone up And Logan has been really bad.
did anyone really think that the Yankees would play lights out all season? c’mon, this is just a rough patch. this weekend will be good medicine.
i agree that after the all-star break, the yankees will regain 1st as always. the first series is against the rays, at home so let it start there!
Wright is on pace to strike out 225 times.
And what the hell happened to Reyes? Has he fallen of a cliff or what.
Remember when the Mets fans said they were better than Jeter and Rodriguez? Now the fans want to trade them both
count
Didn’t Gardner hit a HR at Citi Field last year? I remember how ticked they were that none of their players could hit HRs there but Gardner did lol
Joba had a 2.16 era 5 days ago. I think he had 9 straight appearances without giving up a run and he has been very good with stranding inherited runners this season. No doubt he struggled his last two outings. So now the yanks need to get rid of him you guys sound stupid. I guess its the same people that were whining about how bad Robertson was a week ago and now they want him to pitch the 8th.
count what? count chocula?
Bingo
Met fans and players talk a big game when their team is doing well at anytime but they can never finish the job. Also many of their players are either overrated or headcases.
Reyes better than Jeter ? LOL !
Jeremy
I think Ive found out what’s going on here. You’re getting emotional over Joba and the Yankees, and I, for some odd strange reason, am calm over them.
I think we both need to revert back to our normal personalities. You = normal Me=Wacky
And the Yankees will be right on track.
Whaddaya say?
Bingo
Werent you one of my fellow anti-Bostoners?
Jeremy(Joba needs to go),
Good point. I think relying on the long ball has hurt the Yankees in the past. They also need to take advantage of easy opportunities. For instance, not scoring with runners on 2nd and 3rd and no outs is not acceptable.
Actually the Yankees hit a lot of homeruns at Citi last year. Swisher hit one, Gardner, A-rod. Yeah many Met fan were blaming the park but when the Yankees and Phillies arrived they hit a lot of homers.
CR9,
Yes. But you said you want to reverse karma tonight LOL!
Whenever you’re ready to revert back (like tomorrow), let me know lol
CR9
Yeah I’m going to calm down LOL !
I think the reason why I was mad because of that loss was the fact that the Yankees failed against Boston. If it was anyother team I would have blown it off.
It always surprises me when Gardy hits one deep. You don’t really believe he has that much power until you see it every time.
CR,
I don’t follow soccer – is there ac ountry that is the “Boston” of the World Cup that we should root against?
I know in the past you said Chelsea was the Soccer equal of Boston. So is there a country?
A-Rod went opposite field to pass Reggie.
Gardy needs to hit a lot in Citi Field… that park is built for him. Hit some balls in the gaps. He could probably hit an inside the parker if he goes to deep right center
DaSaint007 May 21st, 2010 at 1:22 am
Seems like I never left here…
Hey GB, hope all is well buddy.
So folks are ready to cut, trade and dismember the team already – and it’s not even the All Star Break. Sheesh!
Starting rotation will be fine. Bullpen does need some work though. Not a fan of Logan (reminds me of a lefty Farnsworth). Don’t know what the heck is wrong with Melancon, but I hope he gets it together back in Scranton. Joba, well he needs some work too, but I think he’ll be fine eventually.
It’s the hitting and defense that’s been suspect. Earlier in the season I stated that if this team scores 7 runs – they win. More times than not, that’s exactly right. But with Jeter, Tex and substitutes playing regularly, run production hasn’t been reliable.
Anyway, just stopped by for a bit, as I’ve been busy with work, and it’s almost our 1 yr wedding anniversary, so been spending that quality time whenever possible. See ya’ll soon!
Saint
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Morning, Simon. My only real concern is them pulling the trigger on an ill-conceived trade. The just got Swisher back and Aceves is coming back in a few days and Granderson shortly after. You hope that with Swisher and aceves back, they pick up where they were at, doing well. Granderson hopefully picks up the pace to his career averages. That’s a lot of offense coming back as well as defense, which played a huge part in two losses. Aceves will or should put a lot of strength into the bullpen. After that, it’s just a matter of waiting on Posada to return. Cervelli can handle the pitchers and either start or continue rallies. NYY will miss Posada’s power and leadership, though…a lot.
Bingo
Alright!
Jeremy is going to be calm tomorrow. And I’m going to be the normal wacky CR9. Umpires and Boston conspiracies for all. And we will be right back to winning!!!
By the way, I think it was pretty obvious that this crew of umpires for the Boston/TB 4 games were cheating us.
I was at the Sat and Sun games at Citi last year
The Mets started Tim Redding on Saturday and Livan Hernandez on Sunday LOL
Dazz
Spain are the Red Sox of country. They had a long drought of 50+ years in winning an international competition IIRC before winning. They wear red. And also prior to winning, ESPN mentioned several times that they were the Red Sox of country football, and couldnt stop slobbering all over them.
Dont know if that’s good enough of a comparison.
“By the way, I think it was pretty obvious that this crew of umpires for the Boston/TB 4 games were cheating us.”
Absolutely. Tonight was another disgrace. They screwed A-Rod, and gave Miranda a “makeup call”. Yeah… why didn’t we get that call when A-Rod could have walked and brought up the tying run? They waited till we were down 4 to give a makeup call?
And it’s sad that the umps gave McDonald and Hermedia calls over MARIANO. Mo threw them right down the middle and they were called balls. He had them both struck out.
Oh, and how about the blown call on the A-Rod error that started the Joba collapse?
Also, did you notice how Morneau is sucking now that he is in Fenway? LOL! predictable…
“Oh, and how about the blown call on the A-Rod error that started the Joba collapse?”
Was there indisputable evidence that showed he was out? I didnt see any, I missed the replays.
As for the Twinkies, I saw one AB from Mauer non Power, and he hit the ball to the opposite field. Now, thinking this was the Mauer against us, I thought it was ticketed for hitting off the wall. Instead, it barely made it 20 feet out of the infield. PATHETIC!
McDonald was struck out on an actual strike 3. But the pitches to Hermida were TECHNICALLY balls, but called strikes all night for the Sox.
CR – Thanks. They do sound like a Boston team and I will root against them.
Now that I think about it, Spain does have a superiority complex. They don’t want to be associated with the other European countries because they think they are better than the England’s and France’s, just like Boston has a superiority complex that they are better than everyone!
Oh, and Morneau got cheated on many strike calls in the first game. He was taking balls that were being called strikes, and later had to expand his zone swinging at Buchholz slop to avoid more cheap calls.
Dazz
What do you mean, they dont want to be associated with other European countries? If they do indeed have a false superiority complex, then they would definitely be the Boston equivalent.
how’s the puppy doing?
The Twins are just caving to the Sox in this series. It seems like the are slumping.
Tiki is no better. She doesnt seem bothered by it. But I cant stand looking at it. It makes me Betsy (worry, lol) that it will never get better.
I never let her anywhere out of my sight when I walk her, so I dont know how she could have been bitten by anything, as the vet suggested.
Sox face Hamels, Kendrick, and Halladay this weekend in Philly
They throw out Lackey, DiceK, and Wakefield
The Rays play the Astros lol… that sucks.
“Was there indisputable evidence that showed he was out? I didnt see any, I missed the replays.
McDonald was struck out on an actual strike 3. But the pitches to Hermida were TECHNICALLY balls, but called strikes all night for the Sox.”
CR9 being fair?!?!?!? What got you in such a jolly mood… did you see Antonio Banderas and Tim Olyphant changing or something? lol
Jeremy
Thome had a chance to draw a walk against Bard yesterday in the 9th. He had a 2-1 count and swung at ball 3 and topped it and rolled it over to 2nd base.
Against Mariano, he was taking pitches.
If there is any Twin to dislike, it’s that steroid freak, Thome. Patience against Mariano. Hacking against bomBard.
The remember last year sweep at citi field very well. The yanks just dominated it was great. Gardy had that 5 hit game and A-Rod hit that opposite field bomb in the bullpen to pass Jackson on Friday. Saturday Burnett threw a 1 hit gem. And the sunday night game was when Mo got his 500th save and K-Rod walked him with the bases loaded getting his first career rbi LOL.
CR9
It seems like everyone plays the Yankees like it’s game 7 of the World Series. But any other team it’s like a regular game.
LosMets are known for making funny mistakes. Change the “Meet the Mets” song to “Beat the Mets”.
Jeremy,
Expect that from the Mets this weekend too – they will play very hard like it is the playoff game. They suck and this is the biggest series they will play all year and they will want to prove they are the “team in NYC”
HAHAHA
Lance
LOL ! Yeah that’s funny. The Mets trying to prove they are the best team in NYC. I hope the Yankees destroy them this weekend in front of all their fans. Also Jerry Manuel might get fired if they get swept.
Isn’t it a little premature for someone to be calling himself a Lost Survivor?
Start of pool as to when the Ynks regain first place………Fathers day for me……
Jeremy
It does seem that way. Even with the Twins losing all 10 games to us last year, I believe the played us close in every game. I dont know for sure if they did, but I would guess that they did.
I remember the 3 walkoffs, plus the 3 close playoff games. That right there is 6 of the 10 closely played games.
Against the Sox tonight, with Lester on the mound, once Youky hit his 3 run bomb, it was Game Over. Drive Home Safely.
5th of July in Oakland
After Nick in SF sees CC outduel Braden in person in Yankee Stadium West and A-Rod hitting 3 HRs off him.
Nick
How is my favorite vittle Nickie baby doing tonight?
Thanks for the kind wishes for my Tiki. I appreciate it. I dont understand, I thought this was a simple problem that would be fixed, and it’s about a month later, and it’s not only not getting better, it’s getting worse.
That must be why, my fellow anti-Bostoners, I am so calm about the Yankees. Because of my concern for my wittle baby.
I like the way you think, EC.
Everyday you write the book?
This is her yawning while laying on her back covered up in her pink blankie!
We call her mattress back!
http://s744.photobucket.com/al.....02017a.jpg
very cute
Look . . we need to move past the Rays series . i’m sure we’ll be better prepared next time around .. bad series . .it happens . . Today is a fresh NEW day . . and a nice win tonight will put us back on the right path
New Day guys . . New Day !
Pat M -
I’ll go with June 30th.
It would be great if they could now put together a little win streak, but as long as they keep the mindset of taking series they’ll be okay.
I truly believe this was a once-through-the-rotation aberration for the starters. All it will take is a good effort by Javy today to get this back on track.
If Robertson has finally clicked, that helps immensely. And Mitre is now available as the middle innings guy.
As bad as all the injuries have been, we’re starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel with Granderson; Swisher was able to play last night and hopefully is fine today; I think Miranda is looking more comfortable than he had (funny how more playing time usually does that to a guy) and as a result we’ll miss Johnson less; Aceves says he’s close to ready to play. Already the reports are on the upswing. Now, let’s hope Posada is more accurate about how long he’ll need to heal than the more conservative Girardi.
I do think the two games that the had won and Joba and Mo and bad defense took them a bit by surprise and there was some backlash in the play from that. But they’re too good a team to stay down. Even with all the subs playing, they are able to score enough runs to win if he pitching does its job. I am not worried at all about the starters. I’m not worried about Mo. I’m encouraged by Robertson and generally I am not concerned about Joba.
But mostly it is early. And Tampa will more than likely hit a rough patch themselves. And if they don’t? Then they don’t and we see what happens.
Can’t look back. The Rays series is over. Time to focus on winning this next series against the Mets.
Robertson looked really good last night and that would be a real plus for the bullpen.
The Yankees are too good of a team to play like this for much longer. I’m just writing this off as a bad week and nothing more.
BTW, Robertson was awesome last night!
ah nice to read some positive thoughts this am (I just skip to the bottom of the post!) Tough week, but there were tough weeks last year and it all worked out. And there were some bright spots- Jeet, Miranda, D-rob. Looking forward to sweeping the Mets
does CC vs Johan count as the ultimate subway series match up as they did the subway commercial together?
Under no condition should Girardi use Thames in the spacious outfield of Citi Field.
At some point Joba will have to be used but the first sign of faltering – - – pull him. Have another arm warming up as he throws his 1st pitch which almost shames him into throwing an economical inning. Joba needs to be pushed. He hasn’t done enough to earn “elite” status except in his own mind.
Fortunately the injury situation appears to be improving, though I will not trust Ace anytime soon as far as his health goes……….Having Granderson back will be huge, but we will miss Posada a LOT.
The SP is simply not going to be as good as it looked for a month. CC will improve and be great, but AJ is going to be AJ. Andy will be solid (and hey, he’s certainly allowed a bad start) and we still have to see how Javy willl do. I think he may have turned a corner; if so, then he’s going to be a very good innings eater. As to Phil, I think he’s going to struggle. The offense is going to have to pick the pitching up the way the pitching has picked the offense up. Tex HAS to get it going and soon.
Doesn’t Cisco look like he is singing opera in that picture?
The problem is that all the slumps (hitting and pitching) and the injuries, all seem to be happening at the same time. It’s creating an illusion of collapse. But you guys are correct this morning, they need to move through it and get to the other side. Hopefully that starts today.
Doreen, you were very brave to try to wade through that last night.
Last night was awful, but there were some good people on board and that made it worth it. I still think that some of those “fans” don’t actually like the team…….they seem to hate the team, to be honest. I do get a kick out of the idea of those clowns bursting blood vessels over poor play, though
doreen-
i’m looking at it that the yankees aren’t even close to being out of that tunnel.
the team has been playing under .500 baseball for over two weeks .
they will be lucky to play .500 ball for the next month. to me that should be the goal- to play .500 ball. so i’ll be happy if they win half their series.
granderson is still a couple of weeks away and there’s no telling how long it will be before he is playing well.
the yankees have some really bad players by yankee standards in the line up. thames and winn just aren’t going to give the yankees an advantage over the other team. the catching has dropped down to league average or below. the relief pitching is in disarray and has to be fixed or changes made. if teixeira was older he’s look like he was washed up left handed. jeter has been off. alex not dominating like the superstar he is.
teixeira , jeter, and alex can turn it around in a heartbeat so that’s what i’m looking for to optimism, but in two weeks time this team has done a 180 and is in some serious trouble.
i think it started it started by going into the season without having a good fourth outfielder because what is the chance that an outfielder isn’t going to go down. winn and thames were there to play in that fourth spot. think about it . that was by design. ouch.
the yankees really need vazquez to become that guy they thought they were getting. starting pitching could be a real strength that could pull them through this next month.
the thing i worry about when a team gets on the ropes like this is if one more injury happens. the yankees are one injury to a key pitcher or player away from being in a real emergency situation.
so the yankees are in deep doo doo right now. that’s not panic , just reality.
Randy, there’s nothing wrong with Winn or Thames as extra OFs (well, Thames ONLY on an emergency basis); how an any team, even the Yankees, predict or account for losing 2 outfielders (Granderson and Swisher)? Also, Cashman actually came out and said it, bluntly: he had a budget that Hal would not allow him to go over. He chose to sure up the pitching (with Javy) instead of the OF and clearly that was the right thing to do.
I agree the relief is a real problem. I’m not about to say that Robertson is back after one outing, but if he is, that helps. Still, Joba is just an inconsisent pitcher (going back to last year – this is not a small sample size), Marte is not reliable and Mitre is what he is. Logan stinks. It’s not a good pen – but it would help if the Yankees sent Logan back to AAA which, for some reason, they are hesitant to dod.
If the Yanks suffer any more injuries, what can you do? There are only so many that a team can take………..and only so many holes a team can fill.
alex not dominating like the superstar he is.
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A-rod in May: .333/.413/.551 .963 OPS, 4 HR, 18 RBI in 18 games
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the yankees simply need to upgrade at the fourth outfielder position and as soon as teams start trading or dumping salaries.
over the winter, i advocated signing molina even though he would cost more and not be overall better than cervelli. the reason was that with posada’s age it was likely that jorge would miss some significant time.
i felt the yankees needed three catchers and not two. in my plan, cervelli could have been at triple a and ready when necessary.
by having cervelli as the back up on the yankees, there’d have to be be a journeyman like moeller who was bad enough that they’d go to triple a and be ready if an injury to posada happened.
posada, cervelli, and moeller is not as good as posada, molina, and cervelli.
cashman passed that up because of the extra million to molina.
just watched molina throw out ichiro on a espn highlights.
you think the rays would have stolen 6 bases off him the other night.
i don’t think so.
patrick-
alex is 100 points off his career ops for the season, but as you say he’s coming on.
that’s a good sign.
they’re going to need it.
alex could carry a team if he got hot. it’s not outside the realm of possibilities that he could ignite the rest of the team. it’s not a given that the yankees will be scuffling for a month. i think that’s just the most likely scenario.
Cameron Diaz shows up in town and ARod can’t get a hit. She leaves town and he’s smacking balls all over the place. Hmmm, just a coincidence I’m sure.
Tex and Arod really have to get going and fast.