Post-game quotes
Posted by: Rick Carpiniello - Posted in Misc on May 22, 2010 
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Some post-game quotes:
Phil Hughes:
Said he was throwing strikes, but that several of them had too much of the plate and “weren’t good strikes. They were all over the place.”
Told that Joe Girardi thought he hadn’t pitched poorly, and asked if that was any consolation: “No. We need to win games. That’s what it comes down to. I could have pitched great, but if we lose we lose. I’ve got to pitch better, that’s the bottom line.”
“Those two bad innings seemed like mirror images of each other.”
Randy Winn:
On the botched fly ball: “I kind of checked how close I was getting to the line and when I looked up the ball wasn’t where I thought it was going to be and I missed it, plain and simple. It’s a play I should have made and I didn’t make it.”
Joe Girardi:
On Teixeira: “I think sometimes the focus is (on him) because of where he is in the order. But we’ve had other guys this week who’ve struggled in those situations too. It’s not only him.”
On Hughes: “When you don’t make a pitch, you don’t make a pitch. That’s the same in any start. The ball gets a little bit too much of the plate. There’s a fine line between getting an out and giving up a base hit. … He threw the ball pretty well, but it just seemed with two outs in those two innings he wasn’t able to get the third out. That’s what hurt him. It wasn’t like he gave up a seven or eight-spot. He kept us in this game.”
Mark Teixeira, on a 1-for-23, repeated that he’s always live on his hot streaks, and had to live with his cold ones. But he is surprised that the last hot streak turned cold so quickly. Usually the hot ones last longer.
He said he might try taking fewer swings — in batting practice. He noted that switch-hitters naturally take twice as many swings as non-switch-hitters, and that he tends to work a lot, so he might be taking 100 or more swings a day. He thinks he needs to back off now.
But he sounded extremely confident that he’s been through this before, and he will get hot again, and soon.
I’m not worried about Teix, b/c eventually he’ll find it.
But Winn in this lineup, Park pitching relief, GI Joe benching Thames w/ the basesloaded vs Fernando Nieves, it’s not like he’s K-Rod, he’s not even Brian Brunney…HOW THE HELL DO YOU TAKE THAT BAT AWAY FROM HIM!!!
Cano 12 walks, Jeter 9 walks
would you have ever believed that Cano would have better plate discipline than Jeter.
I dont think Jete understands that the Job of the lead off man is to get on base!
Rick/Chad someone FOR THE LIFE OF ME…ASK HIM THAT QUESTION!
Winn, Park, Johnson = Epic fail by Cashman
XLJ
Just proved my point that Yankee fans and New York fans are not the best fans in the World.
Hughes ?a coward? The guy is 23 and this is his first year as a starter. So time for you to STFU and log off the computer.
repost
JK,
Old age might be catching up to him. How many SS are still around at age 36 today? Honas Wagner, maybe?
Either way, they caught a break with his next contract and they need to use it to their advantage. No way should he get $20 million.
Jeremy
XLJ = Red Sox fan trying to make Yankees fans look stupid.
Tex: “don’t worry. Be happy.”
And first year as starter all year. I should have said that.
Brandon,
Because Thames is a righty and Miranda is a lefty.
Simple as that. Same reason Russo wasn’t in the lineup against the righty. And the same reason Miranda won’t be in there tomorrow but Russo will.
TLR jr is just doing what he does.
“Winn, Park, Johnson = Epic fail by Cashman”
It’s not epic b/c all of that is under 5 million or 7 collectively. This can be solved this season. There is no epic fail, Matsui isn’t the same hitter, Johnny I miss the guy but he’ll eventually get hurt this season, those injuries take a toll on plus 30′s.
CR9
Wouldn’t be surprised. Calling Hughes a coward is way over the top.
I guess if we’re going to treat Phil as the #5 he is and not an ace, then yeah – he kept the team in the game is a viable answer. I suppose it’s just about expectations. I thought the expectations for him were WAY out of whack; when I suggested he was going to have growing pains, it was like an offense to some people.
I do need to take my own advice and be more patient with Phil, but that would be easier to do if he were throwing all his pitches and just getting hit. This 2 pitch pitcher thing isn’t working for him – isn’t this what we discussed in ST? If as CB suggests the curve just isn’t that good a pitch for him, then the only way it’s going to get better is for him to throw it more. Otherwise, he needs a new pitch in place of it? His reluctance to throw the change is puzzling. How else is he going to gain confidence if he doesn’t throw it?
Girardi needs to throw away his book and stop getting obsessive with the lefty/righty crap. It’s pathetic already. We have seen that Winn is garbage let Russo play. I am not saying that he is the Babe Ruth of hitting but anything with a pulse is better than Winn. If Russo wasn’t in the lineup because a righty was pitching then Girardi should be smacked.
BryanHoch Mark Teixeira: “I feel terrible. I can’t get any worse right now.” Says he needs to take a step back & promises it will turn around quick.
“Brandon,
Because Thames is a righty and Miranda is a lefty.”
Thames just walked off vs Papelbutt, you telling me he can’t vs Fernando I AM GOD Nieves???
Miranda is inexperienced you save that bat as a last resort. Thames vs Nieves who had no breaking ball what so ever to make him chase, would have had to throw Thames a heater or two, heck you saw it the very next batter Russo figured it out and missed rocking 2 fastballs then ended up walking.
THAMES vs NIEVES…THAT’S WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!!
Phil could be a 3 or 4, and eventually a 2 (fingers crossed).
The Yanks should offer Jeter something like 1 year with an option at $17m a year. If the Yanks offer him anything more than 2 years they are absolutely crazy. Then they will have 2 old farts in him and Arod and no where to play them.
Have to add the FOX Broadcasting screw to the new list
Screw Peter Gammons, Tommy Heinson, Dane Cook, Ben Affleck, Kevin Millar, Chris Rose, Joe Buck, Tim McCarver, Ken Rosenthal, Kevin Garnett, Celtic Barry, Brian Scalrbini, Paul Pierce, Boston Olney, Matt Damon, Don Orsillo, Jim Rice, Wendi Nix, Dan Shulman, Nomar, Patroit Simms, Nantz, Eck, Karl Ravech, Steve Berthume, Stephen King.
Chelsea, The New England Revolution, stranglers, thiefs, rats, snakes, elephants, robots, terrorists, deceivers, intimidators.
Betsy
Your concerns about Phil having growing pains were more than reasonable. Unfortunately, people decided they wanted to attack others, and you seem to be the easiest to attack.
Why? Because you allow them to get to you.
What you should do is ignore them when they attack you.
By the way, although Im sickened by it, it seems both myself and you were right about our pitchers batting. With Javy getting hurt on a bunt attempt.
Rick, I’m sure the Yankees still think he’s going to be a #1…………that’s what he looked like earlier. It’s too early to say what he’s going to be…….
Betsy
You understand that Hughes is still developing. But for people to call Hughes a coward and a loser is over the top. Sometimes people on this board sound crazy.
Winn needs to go away w his fielding….yuchhh
CR, that’s rather hard to do given the personal nature of the attacks.
WTG Bingo!!
But FOX has always been a part of the list. They’re all sickos. Every one of them. Erik Karros. I cant believe they brought on that dirt pile Millar. I can believe it, actually!
“I can’t get any worse right now.” Says he needs to take a step back & promises it will turn around quick”
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Tex definitely gets tomorrow off. 2 days to clear his head and not take any batting practice at all. Then be back and ready to go on Tuesday. If Girardi throws him out there against Santana he is asking for another 0-4 with K’s.
Im sorry but I see Hughes beinh a number 1 eventually. People need to calmd down and understand that he is still learning.
yes, it was an epic fail because that money could have been put towards Damon
Damon isin’t anywhere near done.
Park, Winn, and NJ are done.
And Gardenhose is not a #2 hitter, please remove him. Damon was the perfect #2 hitter.
being
Betsy
Nothing could be more personal than the attacks I’ve received on here. But ya know what, I just ignore it. So they call you a worrier. You probably care more about the Yankees than most of them! Hang your hat on that, and ignore them.
Santana is going tomorrow… so you can’t give Tex tomorrow off
Miranda can’t hit lefties. Santana will just throw him sliders down and away all night.
Jeremy, that post was beyond ridiculous and that’s why I didn’t address it. A coward? In the post-game show, he had no problem waving away Girardi’s claim that he pitched ok by saying he didn’t – that he had to pitch better. He’s taking the responsibility on himself, which is a good sign. Coward? No, that was beyond the pale.
Damon is done. This season those injuries will take a toll on him, they’ve seen it that last few yrs. why do you think the Yankees let him go for? we had to, we had to rotate him on the DH and last Damon was on the field for us he pulled up limping in the playoffs, you want risk that w/ a 162 gm. head start, Ale?
Good night Yankee people!
Teix needs to start recognizing those breaking pitches out the zone in the dirt. He’s constantly swinging and missing @ pitches that are balls. He’s killing himself.
CR, we don’t need to get into a contest as to who’s been attacked more. I’ve had my personality analyzed and my intelligence questioned; of course, you have been treated miserably as well.
ps
this is a great blog…dont get caught up in the troll game,,ignore the bad , just like life..;}
Disappointing outing by Hughes tonight.
CC has to come up big tomorrow. Can’t put us in a 3-0 hole like Hughes did… 3-0 is like 10-0 with this lineup.
Has to match 0s with Santana. Santana is very tough and pitches very well at home. He isin’t going to give up HRs at home. At YS he would, not at Citi.
$180,000,000.- and you still are trying to figure out how to prepare and hit in a game? You and Boras sold Cashman a bill of goods, you’re a dud!!
Phil your cutter was whack, stop using it!
CR, Babe Ruth was a pitcher. He held up OK at the plate. This notion of coddling pitchers is relatively new in the history of baseball.
“Miranda can’t hit lefties. Santana will just throw him sliders down and away all night.”
Actually he can. No he won’t, he won’t risk losing that strike zone, we all saw the Philly melt down.
Brandon’s Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS believes in letting Thames bat vs scrubs like Fernando NIEVES!) May 23rd, 2010 at 12:11 am
Damon is done. This season those injuries will take a toll on him, they’ve seen it that last few yrs. why do you think the Yankees let him go for? we had to, we had to rotate him on the DH and last Damon was on the field for us he pulled up limping in the playoffs, you want risk that w/ a 162 gm. head start, Ale?
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Oh tell me you didn’t…..
Are you describing the same Johnny Damon currently hitting 290 with 3 home runs and 3 SBs as done????
Betsy
I wasnt getting into any contest. I was just trying to help you!! Like I said, hang your hat on the fact that you care more about the Yankees than 99% of the other posters on here (with me being the other 1 %, lol)
“Santana is going tomorrow… so you can’t give Tex tomorrow off”
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Tex isn’t hitting anything right now. Especially not Santana’s slider. So it doesn’t matter if he is in the lineup tomorrow or not. Miranda could fill in for him.
Rick
The difference is, Javier Vazquez had not held a bat in a real game situation in several months. He had not run the bases in a real situation in several months.
Babe Ruth used to bat all the time, IIRC.
Betsy, I can see Phil being a 1. Thanks for snapping me out of it.
“Are you describing the same Johnny Damon currently hitting 290 with 3 home runs and 3 SBs as done????”
You describing the same Johnny Damon that couldn’t walk off the field that night in Philly? He’s not an everyday, he’s gonna get hurt. It happening all league wide. Jetes needed time off, Teix needed it Al needed it, Posada needs it…you think Johnny is an exception. Bet you anything he gets hurt this season.
Every year people say Damon’s injuries will catch up to him and what happens? He plays 140 games every year for 15 years.
How many times has NJ played 140 games? once?
So you cite injury as the reason you want to get rid of Damon, yet replace him with one of the notoriously injury prone players in baseball history? One with numerous surgeries and season-ending injuries?
I would hope that wasn’t Cashman’s thinking.
Brandon’s Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS believes in letting Thames bat vs scrubs like Fernando NIEVES!) May 23rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
“Are you describing the same Johnny Damon currently hitting 290 with 3 home runs and 3 SBs as done????”
You describing the same Johnny Damon that couldn’t walk off the field that night in Philly? He’s not an everyday, he’s gonna get hurt. It happening all league wide. Jetes needed time off, Teix needed it Al needed it, Posada needs it…you think Johnny is an exception. Bet you anything he gets hurt this season.
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Okay Brandon.
Tell me how many games you expect Johnny Damon to play this season. He is already at 41
CR, Ha! You recall correctly.
CR, I meant to put a
after the comment………….
Nite all. Go CC!
Erica,
People are just in denial when it comes to Damon. As if Cashman is incapable of making a bad move.
Damon is not done, is nor injury prone (140+ games every year of his career), or any of the other negative adjectives attached to him. He is a darn good ballplayer who should have been back here.
Tomorrow isn’t the day to sit Tex. His right handed swing has been much better than his left handed swing.
They should sit him against a RH pitcher. That’s what’s going to help him the most.
And Johnny went from hitting over .300 in April to a .233 hitter in June… that’s not a ringing endorsement.
It’s time for those big paycheck guys stand up, like Jeter and Tex.
Brandon’s Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS believes in letting Thames bat vs scrubs like Fernando NIEVES!) May 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am
And Johnny went from hitting over .300 in April to a .233 hitter in June… that’s not a ringing endorsement.
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Well your credibility is shot right there. Its only May
“Okay Brandon.
Tell me how many games you expect Johnny Damon to play this season. He is already at 41″
90-115, he gets over that good for him. But right now I doubt he stays healthy at 41 in the OF. It just doesn’t happen.
CB
If you happen to have any knowledge of the Yankees organization, do you know where Kevin Long is this weekend.
The real or fake SJ44 said yesterday that he was away from the team this weekend.
Do you know if he’s working with Teixeira?
Brandon-
I will take the over at 115.
See you at the end of the season. Please prepare to suffer the conseqences of being wrong!
I love how Hughes goes from being Cy Young to a bust in 2 starts with some of you lol. He hasn’t even had a full season of starting in the majors. And its not like he even pitched that terrible results wise. With how much money the Yanks pay some of these “sluggers” 5 2/3 with 3 ER (that 4th run is allll on Winn) should be enough to win 90% of the time.
Then tell Damon that; he’s the one who decided not to come back.
On that note-
Good night Yankee people!
(for real this time)
Cam anyone explain to me why Russo was on the bench? Every at bat he had, when allowed to play, he found a way to get on base.
CR9,
He’s at his son or daughter’s high school graduation. I think Eiland is going to be gone also tomorrow. Both will be back in Minnesota.
Santana’s Philly meltdown had to do with the fact that he allowed 4 HRs, at least 3 of them were park-aided and would not go out in Citi Field.
Just like today, Swish and Cano both hit balls that would have been out in YS but were not in Citi.
He can trust his stuff much more in Citi Field and won’t be afraid to attack like he was in Philly.
CR, Long’s son is graduating HS (I think)……….and Eiland is away tomorrow as well.
CR9
K Long was at his sons graduation yesterday but was back with the team for tonights game.
Johnny Damon is a slap hitting DH on pace for 12 HR’s this year and he’ll probably have another weak second half just like last year and finish with a .270 BA and .350 OBP. He might be the worst DH in the entire game.
Erica-
I loved Johnny as a Yank but I don’t know if I can see him holding up over a full season. Then again, Johnson already proved he can’t hold up so who knows….
lol pat and Betsy, I posted it first! Whats my prize CR9????!!?!?!?!?
Thanks for the information. That’s cool of Klong! Congrats to him!
I just hope now that he’s back, he’ll work with Tex like he did with Swish!
Lets check Johnny even more in 2010
RISP .222/.383/.361
leading off .250/.364/.357
2 outs RISP .133/.409/.133
April .329
May .233
What there is worth what Boras was asking?
Fake SJ44 post of the night…
In his last 250 AB’s, Tex is hitting .195.
That’s not a slump. That’s a part time player.
He can’t hit any LH anymore and they have to stop playing him against righties. He has no chance against them anymore b
Too funny
Hughes could throw the same exact pitches his next start and have a 1 hitter. He’ll get a called strike 3 from the Hp ump that would be the 3rd out. Instead of having the inning extended. Two fly balls that were catchable would be caught. The batter would get caught looking at the cutter. Instead of making contact. It’s not like was wild.
Tyler
I’ll grant you one wish! What one topic would you have me not post about on the site for tomorrow?
Brandon-
I’m not saying I support Johnny being back here but I just feel that Comerica has alot to do with that. YS was perfect for his swing. I honestly don’t know how I would have handled the DH spot this offseason. I actually liked the Johnson signing but look how that turned out. I still think Hideki is the truest Yank of all.
Brett,
He is hitting in Comerica. In YS, he would use that RF pole and hit 25 HRs.
He is the type of player who this ballpark is tailor made for (which is why we should be interested in Crawford, hint hint)
CB, Pat M., and other real baseball fans, i.e., fans that aren’t still in their rompers thinking that what goes on in freakin May is the true measure of a team’s future success.
Give it a rest!
If this stuff is still going on in mid August, then start your whining, otherwise shut up!
On what I would do if I were managing the Yankees (Thank God I don’t!).
I sit Teixiera for a game, let him sit down and relax for once. Then let him back out there.
The rest will simply work itself out with time.
By the way, I would never, NEVER, call out one of my players in public! If I have a problem with a player, I talk to him privately, not in the newspapers.
Girardi’s a smart guy, he knows what he’s doing, unlike most of the Kindergartners on this blog.
would it kill you to proofread your own work?
CR9,
Haha I donno. I don’t like Rooney so no Rooney posts! haha. Lets build up some hatred of England for the World Cup. I want a USA run to the quarters this year and build on that and make a big run in 2014. The youth are starting to come from America! I like the direction we are going!
Zach-
I totally agree. While I don’t like Johnny anymore because of his bogus demands with Boras, there is no way he would be hitting 233 with no power in YS. He would be a perfect fit with this team as he still has a little speed and has always been a clutch player.
Tyler,
Thats the problem… Damon thought he was worth more than he actually is. He is not a >5M player without YS.
I have to say, I like Gangsta Manual.
Knowing his humorous nature, he probably sends Girardi a thank you card for saving his job if he wins tomorrow night LOL
Tyler
What?!?! What do you have against Roo?
I dont mean to dampen your hopes, but the USA will never win the World Cup. It’s impossible. Basically, football is the first sport in all of these other countries. In the USA, football/soccer comes last.
JK-
I agree. I really don’t care for Damon at all personally. While he seems like a lovable guy on the field, He is as money hungry as the rest of them. Just ask Boston. This was the perfect team for him and he could have finished his career with another world series ring or 2 and been productive and who knows had an outside chance at the HOF. Now I hope he loses in a one game playoff to the Twins both year and just fades into the sunset.
amen pepitone
i think the loss was made worse because it was the Mets.
CR9-
It was publicly reported that Long is at his son or daughters’s high school graduation. Something like that – a family function.
Tex works with Long on a regular basis. He spends a lot of time in the cages.
The thing that’s tough with Tex is that you don’t want to make things worse long term by making some kind of change in what he’s doing. His swing is very complicated. So I’d imagine with Tex the first thing they want to do is make sure they don’t do something which screws everything up and makes it more difficult for him to come out of this.
Tex really is a streak hitter. As he said he was surprised that his last positive run lasted for such a short period.
In a certain way, the less is better with Tex, IMO. His swing and hitting mechanics are very complicated. Given his track record you know he’ll come out of it so it makes it a delicate balance on how aggressively to change anything vs. tinkering on the edges. More instruction and doing more isn’t necessarily going to help him.
That said, I’m sure he and Long are working a great deal on things.
Maybe Mark will do the right thing by the Yankees, and leave, to free up money! Any newbie can hit better .203 and play first.
CR9,
I realize that we have no chance at the World Cup. I’d just love a big run to peak some interest in this country. They call it “The Beautiful Game” for a reason. Really the only reason I will hate Rooney is for the upcoming world cup. I like him during the Premiership but come June I will wear my red, white, and blue on my sleeve. Plus, he killed AC Milan lol. And looks like Shrek. But overall, he would be one of my fav players in the Premiership just not this next month
http://www.yankeeboards.com
went over there after the loss. lol they are passionate.
Thank you JK, that’s why he’s not here, there is no doubt he’ll be on the DL. But he’s not worth his price, I also believe Miranda will fill in quite nicely, he’s just adjusting to the majors. But once he gets hot watch out.
Hey do the Yankees still have the 2nd best record in all of baseball or not. I know we are slumping a bit and it is frustrating. But we win tomorrow and we are 10 games above .500. Curtis comes back really soon and we are going to weather this storm. Usually the Yankees are hovering around .500 in May. Were fine.
CB-
Do you think Brandon Laird is going to end up as trade bait? I love that he’s mashing in AA and that shows hes a legitimate prospect. I just don’t see where he is going to play on this team.
Miranda couldn’t even hit Fernando Nieves.
He stinks.
By the way, some were asking about Jeremy Bleich?
The news is not good – it appears as if he’s going to need shoulder surgery.
Oh man that yankee board stuff is funny. Those fans are flipping crazy.
Also, I think part of what’s going on with Tex is that after Posada got hurt Tex started pressing. I really do think that’s part of what’s happened. If Posada isn’t in this line up (especially when Swisher is hurting) it’s very obvious that Tex needs to start hitting and keep hitting.
He started trying to do that and it really looked like on top of what ever problems he was having mechanically he started pressing on top of that.
Thames is 4-34 with 13 Ks against Santana
Winn is 4-15
Tex is 6-26 with a HR
Betsy-
Not good news. He really struggled this year though in AA. I remember watching him pitch in Super Regionals at Stanford and he pitched pretty well despite being hurt. Had high hopes for him maybe to fill in for Pettite in the future. Hope he bounces back.
This isn’t the The Johan in his prime who dominated hitters. He can be had tomorrow.
CB
That makes sense to me. I have another question, though. I thought Teixeira was a consistent hitter and not a streak hitter. He’s been a terrific hitter his entire career. If he is a streaky hitter, which I believe you when you say it, then that’s not good for a playoff team.
He was pretty much terrible the entire postseason last year. We got lucky that Alex carried us.
Come the playoffs, if we make it there, and teams supposedly face the “best” pitching, if he goes into a playoff down streak again, then the other teams can learn from 2009 and pitch around Alex.
Now, I love Alex taking his walks, but what if Alex feels the pressure to do too much? Basically, Teixeira going into a bad streak in the playoffs really hurts us.
And Tex is not even taking his usual walks like he did last year during the postseason while struggling, or which he did last regular season when struggling.
If he could just start taking some walks…
Tyler, the Yanks are having a brutal year with injuries both in the minors/majors. One poster on Pinstripes Plus said that the Trenton announcers made it sound as if David Adams’ injury was pretty serious as well.
“Miranda couldn’t even hit Fernando Nieves.
He stinks.”
He’d hit him in another situation, just not that spot. He doesn’t know Nieves was going to be wild w/ the offspeed, that’s why an experienced bat should have stayed there. Thames would have rocked him. Miranda is not ready for that situation, he will be eventually but not yet.
“Do you think Brandon Laird is going to end up as trade bait?”
Most likely. They could potentially move him to a corner outfield spot and keep him. But otherwise he’s going to get traded.
Pepi, Good to see you again…….I’m not here as much anymore and judging from your remarks you know why…….Am I off base, but didn’t Texeria win the Silver Slugging Award in 09 to go with his Gold Glove ???? The dude is off to a unusual slow start, and he should get a day off…But all this crazy nonsense that has been posted here is just that crazy nonsense……..The guy is goping to be a switch hitting 1st baseman that’s going to hit 500 homeruns and a boatload of Gold Gloves and will ebnd up in Copperstown…..And the baseball intellects here are running him out of town……Hey folks, relax and enjoy the baseball season….Unreal
“This isn’t the The Johan in his prime who dominated hitters. He can be had tomorrow.”
Exactly that Johan threw 95, this one isn’t the same one.
I don’t know – Tex has been bad from the beginning, even before Po went out.
CB, we both know that Mark is pressing and has been since Posada went down……..
CB-
Would he translate to a corner outfield spot? I cant imagine he would be a plus fielder out there… Another guy I’d love to see start hitting is Brad Suttle who was pretty heralded out of Texas. But he’s another guy with no place to play in the majors with Arod here….
Let’s not make Santana into some walk at the park because he’s not the same pitcher. First, he’s still darn good and second, this Yankees offense has been brutal.
Betsy-
Adams is hurt too now?!?! I didn’t see that! This has been a very tough year down on the farm….
“Let’s not make Santana into some walk at the park because he’s not the same pitcher. First, he’s still darn good and second, this Yankees offense has been brutal.”
He’s good but I dare him to challenge our hitters w/ the fastball in a big spot.
“I thought Teixeira was a consistent hitter and not a streak hitter. ”
He’s been a streak hitter his whole career. But usually it’s more like he has a great deal of trouble to open and then progressively gets his timing and swing down and gets better and then gets very hot to make up for the cold streak.
There’s uncertainty with him in the playoffs. Year before last he was very good. Last year he was terrible.
But they did win last year so there’s not a lot you can worry about. You have to hope him being so bad now is going to mean he’ll be hot in the fall.
He’s so extreme up at the plate. It’s hard to know whether he would benefit from being more flexible or modifying his approach so he’s not so vulnerable to off speed pitches and pitches away.
But to do that he’d have to change things quite a bit and that could throw everything off.
“He’s good but I dare him to challenge our hitters w/ the fastball in a big spot.”
Even Randy Winn?? Pretty sure my grandpa could throw it by him.
Pat M, agreed.
i’ve been on this board for a week and i am fed up with the ‘living in my parent’s basement-wont look you in thw eye in public but when i get on the internet i become one of the most extroverted f-holes on the web’ types on here.
hey lets start our own yankees forum lol
again, agreed.
“Even Randy Winn?? Pretty sure my grandpa could throw it by him.”
That’s the only exception.
Betsy-
He’s still one of the top pitchers in the ML and I’d put him top 15 in the game. They guy still knows how to pitch and win. It just makes it easier to look change when he’s throwing 89 instead of 95. Not disrespecting him at all. Sabathia will have to bring it because this lineup is just not clicking it seems.
Tyler, yes – he was apparently stepped on by an opposing player coming into 2nd. I don’t have any more info than that……..
It’s funny how I was telling this whole board about Randy Winn since ST. Now you guys see it.
Pat M.-
As I posted before pressing is a major issue. Tex’s swing wasn’t dialed down mechanically (may have started to get there…) and then Posada went down and Tex started trying to do way too much each at bat.
He’ll snap out of it. But it’s painful right now.
Brandon, look at our offense. Now maybe we’ll bust out, but he doesn’t have a whole lot to fear right now…….
Tyler, agreed ………..CC will have to be great, I think, and he will.
“Am I off base, but didn’t Texeria win the Silver Slugging Award in 09 to go with his Gold Glove ???”
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Yeah, well its one of those “what have you done for lately” things with the baseball Einsteins on this blog.
I have heard everything from “fire Girardi,” “fire Cashman,” “bring back Torre,” “what a waste of money Teixeira is,” to “if George were in charge things would be better.” Yeah, just like it was in the eighties and early nineties.
It’s like somebody released all the inmates at Bellevue, or whatever the name of their asylum is up there nowdays.
Anyway, good to hear from you too, Pat M.
CB
As always, thanks for the insights! By the way, what’s the novel you are reading re: Dutch football?
“Would he translate to a corner outfield spot? ”
Sure. He’s not a lead footed, heavy set 1b so I don’t see why he couldn’t.
Ryan Braun successfully switched to LF and even he’s an ok fielder.
The real question would be whether or not Laird will hit enough to play a corner spot for the yanks. I’d guess he wouldn’t be able to do that but he might.
“Brandon, look at our offense. Now maybe we’ll bust out, but he doesn’t have a whole lot to fear right now…….”
Jetes looking change up and adjusting to the fastball, Gardner will poke on into the OF like he usually does. I’m betting Al or Robi takes him deep tomorrow, question is will there be RISP?
Pep, yep.
baseball einsteins is a good word for them
in a week, i have seen like good posters
the rest are mental mommas boys.
thats what happens when their parents give them access to the family computer.
Pepi-
Good to see you here and have you try to bring some sanity. How are things with you?
CB-
Good point. Didn’t really know Laird’s speed or agility as I’ll admit I’ve seen him play like 2 times and mostly just gone off of reports on him.
A guy who I liked in the minors from his Charleston days was Abe Almonte. Seemed like he had fantastic speed and a little bit of pop also. How does Almonte project?
I enjoy reading your posts and picking your knowledge especially about the minors. I love following the prospects so much! Hope I’m not too annoying with my constant questioning! If I am I’ll def stop.
Tyler, I can’t speak for CB, but I believe the only stupid question is the one that goes unasked……….never be afraid to ask questions.
“By the way, what’s the novel you are reading re: Dutch football?”
It’s called Brilliant Orange by David Winner. It’s non-fiction but very good. One of the best soccer books I’ve read. If you’re interested in total football or Dutch culture it’s particularly good.
Betsy-
Haha yeah I guess. Just didn’t want to seem too annoying. I love watching the prospects as once upon a time I was drafted and it was a very exciting time. Wish I could have moved through the minors! And I guess my questions are always better than some of the ridiculous stuff thrown out here lol…:)
Brett Gardner Cards…… ( Topps I hope, then again I think they’re the only one still in the business at the MLB level )…..Stick it out here at The LoHud as they’re really are some great not only true Yankee Faithful but some real astute baseball people here….The numbers from the dark side have increased since The World Series, in fact the hot stove season was torture at times….But hangout until the All-Star break at least……Yanks will be up by 3 games by then, however they’ll still be those here demanding perfection
Here’a a consolation for Yankees fans. Albert Pujols is slumping too. He’s not hitting. It seems to be contagious this year. Ortiz is batting lower than Jeter@.245. Cheer up guys the Yankees will get it together. B E L I E V E !!
Tyler-
Thanks. Almonte is very physically talented. It’s unfortunate that he got hurt.
I don’t mind questions at all and try to answer all of them I can within reason. So it’s no problem at all.
Tyler, you were drafted? That’s fantastic – even though the dream ended prematurely, you still got to live it!
Pat-
I think once Granderson comes back the Yanks will clip a few games off the Rays and then once Posada is back they hit full stride. Johnson and Aceves will be icing on the cake. Grandy and Posada will lengthen the lineup 10fold with no Winn and Cervelli going back to being a backup.
That’s right, I forgot Almonte was hurt..
“I was drafted and it was a very exciting time.”
That’s really wonderful. Congrats. That’s not easy to do.
Who were you drafted by, if you don’t mind me asking.
Betsy-
Yeah in ’06 by my hometown Cardinals. Grew up in St. Louis but was born in New York and my dad is a life-long Yanks fan so I’ve been too. Didn’t sign with them because my mom wanted me to go to school and I had a football and baseball scholie to Mizzou. Blew out my knee against Texas in our homecoming game this year chasing after Jordan Shipley on a punt return lol.
CB-
I was drafted by my hometown Cardinals a few years back. Went to Mizzou though for baseball and football. Hurt my knee but it all worked out as I got a good education. I wasn’t majors material anyway. My bat wouldn’t have held up in the minors.
Pepi-
Good to see you here and have you try to bring some sanity. How are things with you?
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Not too bad, actually. Nice to see you, Pat M., and some of the other regulars around. I was beginning to think everybody who actually knows baseball had flown the coop.
Always appreciate your excellent insights on the team, the players, and the inside scoop on what’s happening in the minors. I totally agree with your comments on Teixeira. He is a streaky hitter, but I would rather he be in a slump now than come August and September. He’s a professional hitter, he knows his strengths and weaknesses, and how to get straightened out. He’ll be tearing the cover off the ball again before you know it.
Hope things are going well with you. Sure glad to hear Guiseppe is doing well, I miss his sanity around here.
Tyler, no………..
However, you sure have a great attitude, so
Betsy,
Haha it worked out alright. Going to med school in the fall. I wasn’t majors material anyway.
Tyler
You’re truly a cla-ss act. An inspiration of character. No wonder you’re a Yankees fan!
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Thanks, CB. I’ll be sure to pick Brilliant Orange up!
Tyler, that’s terrific; where are you going?
Hey Thanks CR9. Appreciate it. Keep up the Boston hate. ha!
Betsy-
Realized I mis-typed lol. I meant in 2 years hopefully. Not this fall! I wish lol! Just tired right now haha. I’m in a program at Mizzou where I get automatic acceptance into the Mizzou medical school if I keep a certain GPA. Its called the Conley Program. Great program. Don’t have to worry about the MCAT unless I want to apply out which is a possibility if I don’t want to stay at Mizzou as I would have already been here 4 years and there are better schools than Mizzou around. Just don’t want to pile up too much med school debt!
So winn can’t even play the field? Isn’t that what his skill is supposed to be? Otherwise just let Russo play everyday.
Jeter has been so unclutch so far, particularly with bases loaded.
Gardner has grounded to third in 3 big spots recently.
What can we say about tex?
Team has to play better with the pitching faltering.
Well, good luck, Tyler! I love your posts and I respect your opinions…
Thanks Betsy! I’m gonna post more on here. Always looked at the site but never really had time to sit down and post with school and sports. Now just with school I’ll def be on here more!
I am happy to admit that I was wrong about Thames’s bat.
Not Winn.
Not to beat a dead horse, but I really don’t think Winn is worth a roster spot when Granderson gets back.
btw, Another thing I was wrong about is that the Magic would spank the Celtics.
Teix has played in 42 games this year. He has 34 hits.
11 or 32% of those hits came in just 3 games.
That Google Pacman thing is soooo addicting
Yea, Rondo’s a stud. Hard to believe he was the 21st pick.
I can’t play that Google Pacman, lol – my hands are too slow on the arrows. It’s frustrating..
everyone is jumping on Tex now, ’cause he’s an easy target.
And as usual, Jeter gets his pass.
Thank God at least A-Rod is still hitting, otherwise he’s already killed 1000 times in this blog.
What has Jeter done in clutch situation lately? very little.
Rondo is no stud. Yes, he has great vision with the ball. But if he played for any other team, the NBA defenses would play off him, giving him wide open jumpers (which he cant hit) and not allow him easy runs into the lane. Also, if he played for another team, he wouldnt get so many easy baskets and layups, because NBA defenses would foul him and put him on the line (since he cant hit FTs consistently)
Because he plays for the Celtics, somehow magically, other teams dont know how to play him. Phil Jackson should be different. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE!
For all your anger, your spelling the pitcher’s name wrong. It’s Nieve, not Nieves you putz. Get it right.
“Thames just walked off vs Papelbutt, you telling me he can’t vs Fernando I AM GOD Nieves???
Miranda is inexperienced you save that bat as a last resort. Thames vs Nieves who had no breaking ball what so ever to make him chase, would have had to throw Thames a heater or two, heck you saw it the very next batter Russo figured it out and missed rocking 2 fastballs then ended up walking.
THAMES vs NIEVES…THAT’S WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!!”
I meant, “you’re” not “your.” *Embarrassed face*
Rich in NJ……I kinda think the same wasy about Winn when Curtis returns……I really thought that Randy would be a contributor this season…….I watched him quite abit last season in SF, and he wasn’t playing like this….It was a good gamble by Cashman hoping for a bounce back season from him and the price wasn’t bad……He was to be a 4th outfielder with a chance to spell Gardner vs. lefthanders……..Not even close so far in 2010……. ….I’ve been riding the Celtics and the Lakers this postseason and it’s paying nice dividends…….I am surprised that The Magic has come up so empty vs. Boston though……Lakers will repeat……
Pat M
Can you tell me why the Lakers could win against the Celtics, if that arises, other than home court advantage?
For all your Winn bashing, he was 1-1 with a walk. Granted he did misjudge a ball, haha.
“What has Jeter done in clutch situation lately? very little.”
When is the last time Captin groundout got a hit?
Robbie Cano has walked 12 times. Jeter has walked 9. His refusal to walk is killing the team.
CR9-
I know you hate Boston but Rondo is a quality player. He was always an athletic freak but Tubby Smith was an idiot and had him in a stupid system at Kentucky. Any college basketball fan recognized how scary good Rondo could have been at UK. The area he has improved so much is his jumpshot. That’s why he is a quality pro.
1-2*
Tyler,
Sorry about your knee. Seems like everything worked out, but still no fun to go through that. What did you do exactly?
When I was in HS and getting recruited to play soccer, I tore my ACL in front of about 50 D1 coaches. Not good times
Tyler
I agree, Rondo is a quality player. But his jumpshot is still terrible, as is his FT shooting.
I’ve seen Rondo waltz to the bucket and either hit layups or pass out to open shooters countless times this postseason while not watching them that much.
His jump shot should not be respected in the least.
One other note is, when he takes it to the rim and either goes up for baskets or dishes it off, I see him travel countless times also and get away with it. I know this is an exaggeration, but he takes like 10 steps and it goes “unnoticed”
I’m pumped for the French Open tom! Also loved to play tennis along with my other sports. Wish baseball and tennis weren’t in the same high school sports season. Great sport and excercise! I’d love to see Roddick make a little noise at the French!
Tyler
I am pumped for the French also!! I love tennis!!
“Kevin Millar will make his “MLB On Fox’’ debut tomorrow when he joins studio host Chris Rose. Millar, who is also scheduled to join Joe Buck in the booth as a color analyst for a Brewers-Cardinals game June 5 as well as a couple of games in July, had little trouble landing media gigs after being released by the Cubs during spring training. He is among the MLB Network stable, and NESN announced yesterday that he will be joining its rotation of analysts beginning May 27.”
- Boston Globe
Pat M
I agree that it was a reasonable gamble.
Kobe is amazing, offensively and defensively, and Gasol is probably one of the ten best players in the NBA.
LGY – ouch; I’m sorry to hear that!
LGY-
Man that really sucks! Did you not even get a scholarship for soccer then?
I was a sophomore last year and playing special teams and I was running down the field on the side and Shipley cut back and I got my cleat caught in the turf at Farrot Field and also got blocked on the side. Ended up tearing my ACL and MCL. Lost alot of mobility and just couldn’t move like I used to through rehab. Tried to play a little baseball this year and just couldn’t get my old burst back. It worked out because I can concentrate on school now.
If anyone needs me, I’ll be in my Smoking Room.
Watched the game from the airport. The Winn error was brutal. Please kick the guy off the team already.
Hughes was good, very close to a quality start. The onus is on the offense to cash in with RISP, and they didn’t. Tex was brutal.
The offense has got to pick up the pitching, quality starts should be enough to win.
CR9,
I am smelling Celtics win another champ. I root for Lakers. But I know I will be disappointed.
Celtics just have too many weapons. Now everyone is healthy, they are on a roll, plus Magic is quitting. They should get enough rest for their senior citizen players before Final.
Lakers’ only advantage is home court. Suns will fight to the end. So Kobe & Co’d better win game 3 to keep up the pace.
Compare to their last meeting in Final, Celtics bench players are better, Rando is BETTER. Gasol is better (hopefully). Kobe is the same, if not a little worse physically. In my mind, the key is how well Lakers will defend Rando. Scottie Pippen should do the trick. But Artest is not Pippen. Another key is how well Gasol will play under Celtics’ physical defense. We all know he’s way too chicken in last Final vs. Boston.
I don’t know, Celtics in 6. I hope I am wrong miserably.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
Hughes’ problems finishing off hitters could have far-reaching effects if they continue. He has always been a strikeout pitcher; he struck out 10 batters per nine innings during his Minor-League career and 8.3 during his first three seasons in the Majors. When he struggles to finish off hitters, however, it elevates his pitch count and leaves him more vulnerable to the whims of his defense. On Saturday, he threw a career-high 117 pitches without finishing the sixth, and a defensive misplay cost him a run.
Furthermore, opposing hitters had just a .227 batting average on balls in play against Hughes entering Saturday — well below the league average of .295 — a sign that Hughes has perhaps been the beneficiary of some luck. The Mets, however, were 8-for-17 when they put the ball in play off Hughes.
“I don’t think there’s any mental thing behind it or anything like that,” Hughes said. “I just haven’t executed pitches when I’ve needed to.”
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I agree with this guy’s first point in general, but you could say that about any pitcher. The 2nd point I still think is bunk; teams were not hitting him because his stuff was good.
Joba
I knew the Magic couldnt handle the Celtics again. For one main reason. They had no Hedo Turkoglu this year. Hedo last year was able to penetrate the lane and create good shots for himself, or for his 3 point shooting teammates. Also, he could draw fouls and hit 3 pointers himself.
I have barely watched any of this series, so my opinion is they have wild Vince Carter who is content to fire up bad shots, and not do what Hedo did last year.
Dwight Howard is still Howard. He can play defense and dunk, but he cant finish inside because has no scoring touch, and he cant hit FTs.
Dwight Howard + Vince Carter = FAIL
Betsy,
That seems pretty general to me. Of course when Phil is sharp he’s finishing hitters early on 1-2 counts and not wasting pitches or getting them fouled off. Same goes for most in the league.
Add that to Kevin Garnett being back, and Ray Allen not struggling like last years’ playoffs, and the Magic were DONE from the start!
CR-
Your hatred of Boston reminds me so much of when a couple years ago my dad and I were discussing where I could get drafted and the prospect of the Red Sox came up lol. Red Sox scouts did watch me some in HS. I was so against it lol. He had to calm me down when I saw them. I wanted to just dog it lol. But in reality, its actually a pretty nice city lol. Nothing like the good ole’ NYC but its nice.
Tyler, even in his good starts, Phil was having trouble finishing hitters off. Jerkface posted stats to the effect that Phil is one of the worst with 2 strikes – that has got to improve. If not, it’s going to keep coming back to bite him as he’s going to get worn out. 117 pitches in 5 and 2/3 innings is extremely high………If they can skip him due to Monday’s off day (that is, if Javy is good to go), I would.
CR9,
I agree Carter is a loser. He always chokes at the key moment.
I love Boston – it’s got two things that are important to me: history and great food. It’s also a fun city – I need to get back there.
Betsy-
Yeah. It seems like that has plagued him through his big league career. His stuff is great. I think he needs to incorporate the breaking ball more on 0-2. That might get him more swing and misses than those cutters he’s throwing all the time. Watching him in the minors, He always seemed dominant on 0-2. He’s got a good arsenal of pitches. I think it will improve with experience.
Tyler
I’ll keep this short. I dont doubt the city looks aesthetically pleasing. However, I have had many terrible experiences with their arrogant, criminal fans, and their teams are filled with scummy zero-character/cla-ss players.
Joba
I dont think it has to do with choking. I think it has to do with not valuing the best possible shots. In the little bit of the series I watched, Carter was content to fire up terrible shots and cost his team possessions.
I know it sounds simple, but so many teams dont understand the 2 simple concepts to winning basketball games, at least offensively:
Valuing possessions, not committing unnecessary turnovers.
Getting good shots, and not just firing up shots for the sake of firing up shots.
lol CR. I won’t argue with that.
And Betsy- It has such great history and great food! Legal Seafood is delicious there. Visiting Harvard was also so cool. Great campus.
Hughes might benefit from throwing more offspeed pitches to keep hitters off balance.
I dont think it has to do with choking. I think it has to do with not valuing the best possible shots. In the little bit of the series I watched, Carter was content to fire up terrible shots and cost his team possessions.
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Which is funny because on the whole Orlandos entire game plan is built around taking the best possible shots and denying those shots to the opponent.
Tyler – I am a huge history buff, so Boston was just incredible. OMG, the North End? For a foodie, it’s heaven. There’s a Legal Seafood near where I live, so I didn’t go there when I was last up. I still remember one of the best meals of my life, at a place called Gordon Hammersley’s. That roast chicken dish with garlic was sheer heaven – and I never order chicken at a restaurant.
As to Phil, he’s got a very good FB, but his other pitches seem to leave a lot to be desired.
I have to wonder one thing.
What exactly is Patrick Ewing, one of the greatest centers of all time, doing for Dwight Howard offensively?
From the little I’ve seen this year and the entire Celtics-Magic series I saw last year, Dwight Howard looks absolutely INCOMPETENT near the rim. He cant finish off the simplest layups, he has ZERO touch in the lane. All he does is fire the ball at the rim or backboard and hope it goes in. PUTRID. ABSOLUTELY PUTRID.
What is Ewing doing with this guy? Because Howard has not progressed an ounce offensively.
Not even from the FT line. Ewing used to hit FTs.
Oh, I did go to Harvard when I was there, but it close to graduation time and the kids were studying so I didn’t gain access to all that I might have. One thing that always sticks with me is the Widener Library. That was named after the son of a rich Philadelphia magnate who perisheid on the Titanic……..As a Titanic buff, it did mean something to me.
Jerkface
Im not sure, are you laughing at my idea, or at the Magic?
Because I find it absurd, but completely believable, that a team would abandon their entire year-long strategy to gift the Celtics a trip to the NBA Finals.
Betsy-
Yeah i went like 6 years ago so I don’t remember alot of the places we ate. I just remember Legal Seafood because we didn’t know it was a chain at the time haha.
And don’t sour too much on Phil. His other pitches will come around. 2 starts doesn’t take away his first 6. Is he going to hit rough patches? Of course. Almost all pitchers do especially under the spotlight of NYC and in the AL East. He will get it going here. Just needs to throw fewer dam cutters!
Tyler, I’m sort of disappointing myself, but then I’ve had such high hopes for him for years………..We’ll see. It could just be that I’m really ticked off losing to Pelfrey, lol.
Basically they traded for Vince Carter despite the fact that his entire strategy with the ball runs counter to Van Gundy’s and the teams, and they wonder why he was so terrible.
It is really sad how bad the magic are choking, they should have dominated
Betsy-
Pelfrey looks like he is developing into a top 5 starter in the NL if he’s not already there. No reason to be ticked losing to him. He’s a tall guy whos throwing downhill with sinking movement. Trust me. That is nasty. I’ve had high hopes for Phil too. I always loved the Yanks minor league system. To put it in perspective I used to follow Henson and Navarro thinking they would be the next bit things lol. Hughes was the first prospect I actually had to follow along with Tabata. Finally, the Yanks had a farm system with them that was legit.
Ok, Jerkface. Gotcha. Exactly. I forget the reason Hedo left via free agency, whether or not the Magic had the cap room for him or not.
But basically, they took Vince Carter, instead of Hedo. Hedo proved he was a winner. He proved he could drive the lane, create good shots for himself and his teammates, get to the free throw line, hit his shots and his FTs. But instead, they went with a career bum like Carter.
I dont think the Magic are choking. I think theyre just not that good. It begins and ends with Howard being terrible offensively. Because he is ZERO threat on the inside offensively, the Celtics can and probably have just played one man on Howard defensively and guarded their perimeter shooters.
Heck, I venture to say that I, at 6’1, could guard Howard on the inside and he couldnt score. Probably a large exaggeration, but what the heck!
Time to hit the hay!!
It’s a shame that the Knicks, in 1994, could not face the Rockets with Howard instead of Olajuwon.
If we had, we would have been 1994 champions!!
They let Hedo go becausehe wasn’t worth the money.
The magic dominated the season , they aren’t ‘just not that good’.
The Yanks will be fine. Take the series tonight.
The only thing that could slow down The Lakers some is the injury to Bynam…..Otherwise the Celtics are out manned, besides they have no real answer for Odom….Lakers in 5 maybe 6….The hot run that has carried Boston thus far will come to an abrupt halt at Staples Center…….I went to Mondays game, and LA is going to repeat……LeBron James may have been awarded the MVP , however Kobe Bryant is the best player on the planet
Just got out of the shower!!!
Jerkface
The Cavaliers dominated the Eastern Conference. They just werent that good. They had one player. That’s it.
The Magic just arent that good, and it boils down to Howard’s offensive ineptitude.
Nite 4 real!!
And to be honest, I dont know how much money Hedo got, but with his performance last year, I’d say in NBA proportional salaries, Hedo is worth about 12-15 million a year!
I just looked, Hedo got 9 million! That’s it! He is definitely worth 9 measly million.
And loser Vince Carter makes 16 million. So essentially, theyre paying double for a gigantic loser and failure like Carter, than only 9 million for a guy who desires to win!
The magic beat everyone in the league, including the Lakers, and every playoff team in the regular season. They were good.
It feels like Christmas Eve.
Of the last Christmas.
Couldn’t help but notice a serious lack of quotes from Derek Jeter. None in the AP story, either.
Does he not talk anymore, or is the big, bad New York press just afraid to ask him a legit question?
By the way, anybody still upset the Yankees didn’t rush into a hugh-$$$ deal with Jeter last offseason??? The range he showed last year is gone and his bat is far worse than that.
Good morning all-
1. Phil, though he didn’t pitch as well as he has/ can, pitched well enough to win on many other nights. What helped them lose was….
2. Winn missing a fly ball that a big leaguer is supposed to catch, and….
3. The Yankee hitters not hitting with RISP.
4. Posada being out didn’t help either Phil or RISP production.
5. Tonight is another game.
I agree Joe. Phil wasn’t sharp, but kept them in the game. He is too in love w/ the cutter, Po would have called him out on that. And it was inevitable that Wright would come off his slump. Pelfry was good, but not that good and the bull pen guys were certainly hittable. Tex, in particular, has to get it going. He was up in a couple key situations and didn’t come thru.
Oh well, CC will get them tonight. The Rays lost as well, so the Yankees are no further behind.
“2. Winn missing a fly ball that a big leaguer is supposed to catch, and”
I have seen guys not invited back for the next softball season for missing plays like that, let alone the big leagues.
Kate–I hate to break the bad news, but he Rays won yesterday.
thanks austinmac, I misread the score!
i said on may 20th when posada was placed on the DL and the yankees were 10 games over .500 that the yankees would do well to be 10 games over .500 on june 20th .
this was thought of as negative thinking by some on the blog. the yankees are now 9 games over .500. i think this is going to be the pattern for a month. basically win one lose one. that’s the good scenario. the bad scenario is they play like they have for the past two weeks( since boston at fenway)and that is a 5-9 record.
the key here is not piling up victories during this difficult spell where granderson and posada are out, teixeira and jeter are scuffling,and the bullpen is in disarray, but being at full strength when june 20th( or so) comes.
the team needs to aim at being as close to whole and operating on all cylinders as possible on that date.
the goal is not to fight shorthanded and go all out to win every game during this period. what i mean by that is try to win every game without doing anything out of the usual. don’t stretch out the starters ( or mo) more than normal or play a position player when they should be nursing a minor injury .
don’t bring up a player who needs to be developing at triple a. don’t do anything that is short term. do everything that is designed for the rest of the season.
the one problem with this way of looking at things of looking towards june 20th is that there’s no guarantee that by the time when posada and granderson are back that other players won’t be injured by then.
that can happen to any team though. if another key player goes down between now and and when posada comes back, the yankees season will be in jeopardy. the team was loaded when spring training broke , but it’s not loaded right now.
it’s the reason that they play the games. the yankees can get loaded again, but it’s not likely to happen for a month or so. get used to win one lose one.
try to do too much and it’ll get worse that that.
Hughes just needs to mix in more CBs and CUs to get hitters off of his FB. He’ll get more swings and misses and caught lookings if he does that. He is falling into the habit of using just 2 pitches. He has 4, he needs to use them.
i was looking for a video analysis for left handed teixeira and this came up on yankee stances.
pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=channel
this one is teixeira watching his swing be imitated by battingstanceguy.
again pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....38;index=6
the think that’s not funny is battingsnaceguy could probably hit better than mark lefty right now
battingstance guy on 2009 yankees.
maybe some of you have seen this before but he’s cracking me up. pretty funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Teixeira is wasting to much energy wiggling his bat before a pitch is delivered. If he stayed back and stayed quiet his concentration might be helped.
Gotta like Russo’s plate approach. A Randy Winn he’s not and he’ll just get better in the OF with more work and appearances.
DFA Winn as soon as Granderson’s rehab games at AAA are finished. Take Winn’s 40-man spot and give it to Royce Ring unless Boone Logan suddenly finds the strike zone.
The starting rotation can’t be faulted for not getting run support.
There’s no guarantee that by the time Posada gets back we will be able to catch the Rays period. The good news is that after the Twins series the Yank schedule gets much easier so that will help.
“There’s no guarantee that by the time Posada gets back we will be able to catch the Rays period.”
wave your hat-
true, but you forget that with posada back , the yankees will win every game he doesn’t play and cervelli catches .
that’s worth a couple of games a week at least
“true, but you forget that with posada back , the yankees will win every game he doesn’t play and cervelli catches .”
I forgot there’s a group on here that seems to believe that.
Seriously, Cervelli has a chance to carve out a real career for himself (probably not with the Yanks though) if he can continue to produce while Jorge is hurt. I think playing every day will bring his numbers back down to the .275-.290 range but anything can happen over a short period of time and here’s hoping he proves me wrong.
If he does, I won’t mind the Jorge doubters dancing on my head some.
Some of the comments regarding Hughes, Jeter, and Tex last night were just hilarious. Did folks really think Hughes was going to pitch like those first few starts all season with no variation whaysoever?
Come on, even the very best pitchers in baseball can only throw like that for short stretches and Hughes is a 23 year old kid figuring out the league. The league has started to adjust to him, he will adjust back…he didn’t pitch that bad.
Jeter actually looks like he’s starting to see it a little better of late..he took some tough pitches last night. He will be fine, not worried about Jeter in the least and when he’s hitting .315 in August nobody else will either.
It’s tough to watch the standing in May. The Ray’s have been playing at a level they will never maintain. They’ve also been injury free. That almost always changes at some point in a season.
Meanwhile, NY has lost Posada, Granderson, Ace, Swisher, and Andy. Boston lost Cameron, Elsbury, Dice k and Beckett.
I remain worried about two things, the pen and Teixeira. I wouldn’t describe worry about Winn, but I have to question why he starts games. Or based on last nights defense, why he finishes them.
Granderson’s injury cost the Yanks in OF defense. Once he comes back (hopefully at the end of the week) he goes back to CF and Brett to LF, the Yankees become a much better team. And Winn and Thames go back to being bench players.
Randy,
It is pretty funny how quickly Posada is always forgotten…just like how they were going to be better in 08 with pudge after Jorge got hurt…never works out like people think. They always miss his presence in the lineup and even more importantly his on field leadership…they aren’t the same team without him.
“It is pretty funny how quickly Posada is always forgotten”
That’s one thing I’ll never understand- “Fans” who are quick to dismiss the caliber of player Posada is, and his importance to the team. If Jeter’s the cornerstone of this team, Posada’s the keystone.
If Cervelli keeps progressing with his game calling and keeps hitting around .300 then losing Posada isn’t that bad and the Yanks have found another good catcher in the system..
Posada is like a starting QB. Lots of fans like to pick at his weaknesses, ignore his strenghts, and love the back up. Some go so far as to tell you why the back up should be the starter.
But the back up is almost always a back up because given a lot of play, they aren’t as good.
The Rays WILL run into a rough patch. They’re to be commended to what they’ve accomplished so far but injuries don’t escape any team. The depth of the team will get tested just as it has for the Yankees.
I love Cervelli and the fact that he has played so well is great but I think the Yanks will have a tough time winning it all unless they get Posada back and healthy…I think he’s that important.
wave your hat-
i think it’s safe to say cervelli has a nice career ahead of him. he’s twenty five-ish and catching for the yankees. life is good.
there really shouldn’t be any problem with posada or cervelli affecting each other in a negative way. that’s a fan thing .
the old dog teaching the new dog is a good thing. cervelli can help posada by allowing the yankees to dh more with cervelli catching ( i don’t worry about the lose the dh thing as it hardly ever happens).
i don’t care if cervelli hits .230 as long as he’s solid behind the plate. he still has some things to learn back there defensively as can be seen when he plays more. i really hate rah rah stuff in baseball. that may just be a preference like preferring chocolate ice cream instead of vanilla ice cream, but i’ll tell you why i feel that way.
i had the unique opportunity to play with a lot of division one – three college players one summer in the early nineties on cape cod, and then that winter be bullpen catching for a winter team in bradenton, fla with all major league players . actually i did it two years in a row back and forth.
there were players like graig nettles. cesar cedeno, ron washinton, hal mc rae , al oliver etc. some of the college players were all americans or just had pitched in the college world series.
the one difference that was most striking to me was that the pro game played a few beats slower than the college game. there was little chatter from the pro players. the pros got to second right before the ball did standing up. the college players dove head first in a cloud of dust.
the world would come to an end with a bad game for a college player and the pro player shrugged off the bad game. i once saw gene clines( we are family pirates) drop three fly balls in a game because of sun and fog and he never showed any emotion at all except to keep focused for the next ball to come his way.
another thing was what i call gunslinger eyes. there would be a point in the game when everyone would get kind of quiet and the eyes would narrow . nettles especially had gunslinger eyes. you almost didn’t want to sit next to him because he had that energy about him.
the pros in key situations didn’t get more vocal as did the college players. they got more quiet as in stalking their prey. i came to appreciate the difference between looking like you are amping it up to really amping it up.
anyway, this is why i prefer a way of playing that is more emotionally controlled and not so celebratory when things go well. joba is a good example. the hyperness and celebrations are great when things are going well but get old when they’re not.
if someone is a pro, the bad times will come so you have to not get too high or too low. i love how russo hit that two run double the other night and never cracked a smile when he came into second base. no fist pump. nothing. just a pro doing what he’s supposed to do. he also had those gunslinger eyes when he was waiting for that first pitch. he knew that was that key point in the game where it would be decided. the kids a player.
again it may just be a preference, but i’ll take mo’s demeanor over joba’s any day. the good news is if he last long enough even joba will learn how real pros act.
I have to say, the updates since Pete left has diminished pretty quickly. There used to be posts every couple of hours on stuff – which is what made this place so popular. With three times the people it seems there’s 1/3 the amount of posts.
OMG lupica article today is awful. Just a bunch of crap.
“It is pretty funny how quickly Posada is always forgotten…just like how they were going to be better in 08 with pudge after Jorge got hurt…never works out like people think.”
blake-
if you read my gunslinger analogy post, posada is the ultimate baseball gunslinger. he may not always be pretty how he does it but he will take care of business more often than not in key moments in games. his presence is contagious. it’s why i think he’d make a great manager.
as far as cervelli goes, i’ve had to separate him in my mind from his fanboy/fangirl club so as to not hold it against him just because of who goes gaga over him while slighting posada at the same time
once i get cervelli’s fanclub out of my mind , i like him a lot as a player. i’d like him more at triple a to get some seasoning in the sense of toning it down. he came up , after all, really fast after not a lot of playing time in the minors.
i think that because he’s so hyper he’s not seeing the subtle patterns he needs to see to be a good game caller. for example,he needs to slow down and know not to call another cutter so quickly to a lefty when a previous lefty just killed one. or fall into a predictable in out, in out, in out pattern that he sometimes falls into.
i couldn’t prove it that he’s not a great game caller right now, but i think with experience he’ll be much better in the future. all in all, cervelli has done great and if all minor league players came through the way he has, the yankees wouldn’t know what to do with all the good young players they’d have.
Blake, the posts about Phil calling him a coward and gutless were way out of line, but it’s very true that he has got to stop becoming a 2 pitch pitcher. You were among those who agreed that it was fine that he was relying on his FB and cutter, but I never underststood that line of reasoning. ML hitters were always going to adjust – they can hit fastballs, especially if they know it is coming. The reason I wasn’t happy last night was because Phil continues to throw 2 pitches – he doesn’t use his curve enough (and it’s not that great anymore anyway) and he barely uses his change up. That’s not overly encouraging…….
Randy
Real good points about treading water, Russo and why you don’t like the rah rah stuff. I agree with all of it. Very astute observations particularly about Russo.
The only disagreement I have with your take on Cervelli is the false hustle angle. That may be just talk on your part to get another poster riled up. But IMO some players are just like that. It’s part of who he is. Having said that, I do hope in the future he will tone it down.
“OMG lupica article today is awful. Just a bunch of crap.”
hey kelvin says -
have you met murphydog?
You can say that about all of Lupica’s articles….I haven’t read him in years and it’s been a pleasure.
If you read Lupica, you deserve the accompanying pain.
Posada was a big loss, both for the pitching staff and the lineup. We have to hope he’s going to be back in a month….
“The only disagreement I have with your take on Cervelli is the false hustle angle.”
tarheelyank-
i first used the “rah rah” phrase to explain what i didn’t like, but someone else added the “false hustle” . it’s similar , but not the same thing.
i shouldn’t use the false hustle terminology because it’d not really what i mean. i just ,like i said, perfer playing a a different beat that i think allows a player to slow the game down to see more of the game.
“I love Cervelli and the fact that he has played so well is great but I think the Yanks will have a tough time winning it all unless they get Posada back and healthy…I think he’s that important.”
Especially with no Granderson or NJ, and Teix struggling.
Po’s bat allows other players to relax.
” With three times the people it seems there’s 1/3 the amount of posts.”
Abe’s Odd World
You know it’s a good crew running this blog. It makes me wonder if it’s just a matter of financial cutbacks.
Randy
You explained it well in your 10:53 post. I am just a slow typer so didn’t read it before my post.
I was taught the “act like you’ve been there before” approach growing up in sports but Joba being more like Mo may be as unnatural for him as asking Mo to be more like Joba.
Whatever emotion players need to harness to be successful is what they should go with as long as it’s real and not a performance for effect.
“Whatever emotion players need to harness to be successful is what they should go with as long as it’s real and not a performance for effect.”
I don’t disagree, but there are often consequences for the rest of the team when a player displays gestures that most don’t, and that needs to be part of the calculus.
“If you read Lupica, you deserve the accompanying pain.”
I don’t read Lupica, but I am eagerly awaiting Murphydog’s arrival. His Sunday morning response is on my “must read” list.
Nothing beats a good Murphydog rant about Lupica!
It makes me think that his clients who settle without getting to hear a Murphydog monologue in a courtroom are somehow cheated in the process.
I love the Yankees their wins and losses control my daily moods.
I ain’t no troll and I don’t care who here attacks me for this but I have to say it.
All I read from Cashman and Girardi the past few seasons is how we need to get more athletic and younger particularly in the OF.
Yeah Man! I’m down. I’m behind you guys 100%, sounds great, good plan!
Good philosophy but where is it being implemented when it comes to the bench?
Marcus Thames and Winn are scrubs that don’t deserve to be in Pinstripes.
Bring up Golsten and keep Russo.
Melky would have easily caught that ball last night and a few that stiff Thames has blown, not to mention the throws to the cut-off man, or should I write attempts to the cut-off man or to the plate.
“Especially with no Granderson or NJ, and Teix struggling.”
getting back to teix, i really wonder about his lefty uppercut swing standing the test of time. it depends on impeccable timing to make contact. when he’s on athletically he’s a force. when he’s off his bat doesn’t stay on the plane the ball is coming in on long enough to make contact.
in golf his swing would be called a steep swing. it doesn’t stay level with the ball though a long period. just like even someone like tiger woods redid his swing at the peak of his career, i wonder if teixeira should be thinking of figuring a way to flatten his swing.
as he ages and loses some athletic ability his lefty swing could really be a problem ( i’m not mentioning the right handed swing because i haven’t looked at it and he’s not having a probelm with it).
what should he do?
first of all, he probably should ease into some changes because as CB as stated he has a complex swing and messing around could really throw him off.
i’d say that he should try to do something that make him think flatter and shorter to the ball.
maybe a front shoulder a little lower, maybe a little more weight on his front foot on the swing.
or maybe a little more weight on the front foot at set up.
basically there are dozens of mechanical things he could try.
he probably has let something new in without realizing it. if that’s true , then maybe that new thing has steepend his swing to a point it doesn’t work.
this is something for long to help with.
teixeira probably just needs a small adjustment for now .
and maybe a bigger adjustment later in his career.
Its golson not golsten
Rich
As long as the emotion is bringing the player success, his teammates are probably willing to live with the consequences it may bring.
It also seems like all-star players take less offense to other players behavior.
Makes me think that maybe they have a better understanding that it’s about what you do and not what someone else is doing that really matters.
A consolation that you chose to correct my spelling (Golson) but my not point. Thanks.
Correction: but not my point. Edit button needed.
randy winn just has to go. his fielding has been terrible as well as his lack of ability to hit a fastball. if he cannot even play the field well, what purpose does he serve. I would rather have golson there as there is at least potential in him.
Tonight’s lineup (should be):
Gardner CF
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Teixeira 1B
Swisher RF
Cervelli C
Russo LF
Sabathia P
Tonight’s lineup (will be):
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Thames LF
Cervelli C
Sabathia P
Ugh.
How about a reserve outfielder who doesn’t turn outs into doubles.? I don’t even care how old they are. I just want someone who can catch the ball.
Add:Johnson, Winn, Thames, Park,Logan, Granderson
Subtract: Damon, Matsui, Melky, Coke, Bruney,
Hurt: Granderson, Johnson, Posada…CF,DH,C
What do you people expect? Please stop the whining at least til after the All Star break.
Sadly, I would not be surprised if Girardi has both Moeller and Winn in the lineup tonight.
Hey guys I think we should ask the jurnal news to have someone else run this blog, when pete was here he didn’t take that many off days he just made sure to post every 2 hours since pete left chad & company are just taking most weekends off & there is a lack of posts for example yesterdays game post didn’t even have any updates & we are now sunday midday & there is still no posts today, also the post “today in the jurnal news” used to be posted every day between 8:00-9:00 & now its not posted every day & when it is there is no specific time when its posted, the game post isn’t posted until a min before the game & in the middle of the game there is a lack of updates cuz they have work for the morning paper……pete by himself gave us more then these 3……
How many more balls hit right by third for doubles do we have to see before the genius yankee manager and coaches decide to play AROD next to third base in the late innings. Isn’t that what every good baseball team does in the 7-9th innings – protect against a double.
When will they realize the rivera isn’t 30 anymore and more times than not he isn’t given up little dinkers to the opposite field anymore, so maybe they should play deep in the outfield in late innings to protect against the double over the OF’s heads. Or play the infield deeper if they want to protect against the little dinkers
How many runners has the yankee 3rd base coach got thrown out at home plate this year? At this rate maybe its better to get Bobby Meachem back.
Oh that and Cashman has ruined this team by bringing in losers (nick johnson, chan ho park, boone logan and to an extent javy vasquez) and has beens (nick johnson, randy winn, marcus thames)
Relax, Jay. The game isn’t until 8 tonight. Not everyone is spending his or her day off waiting for blog content. And show just a little class — you’re free to go anywhere else. It’s a big world out there. Get some air. The guys at LoHud do a great job. Don’t be creepy.
jay
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the lack of updates is because of the Journal News. The newspaper industry is experiencing hard times, maybe just maybe The Journal news is cutting back on hours. So I agree with MT, chill out or go somewhere else.
I don’t even bother to read game posts anymore. Nothing to them.
It’s up to the posters here to keep this blog afloat now.
I think Girardi should either bat Gardner leadoff, or put him back in the bottom of the order. It seemed like we were scoring a lot of runs when Granderson and Gardner were wreaking havoc at the bottom of the order by stealing bases and using their speed to distract pitchers when Jeter came up to bat. That’s how Jeter racked up all his RBI early in the year.
When Gardner is batting second, he hardly has a chance to use his speed. He’s either on base with 1 out, so the team can’t fully manufacture a run, or Jeter is blocking him on the basepaths. I want to watch a game where Gardner leads off the first inning by reaching base, and the pitcher has to struggle from the get-go. Maybe that will help Jeter and Tex break out of their slumps.
Just thought I’d throw in a bit of good stuff – Swisher’s at bats last night. I’ve hated Swisher ever since I first saw him in a Yankee uniform, the Bouncing Betty at bats, the cartwheels in the OF, the rainbow throws. Walking by the TV last night and I saw this very quiet balanced set up, powerful in controled swing, it was beautiful. Amazing what Long has done and how much Swisher was willing to change and work to accomplish this. I love a player that understands situational hitting. That ten pitch at bat resulting in a single was classic. Swisher was going to get on base and that’s all he would accept. He has improved in all facets of the game since coming to New York and you have to respect that.
Jay has a PhD in revisionist history. You’d think Pete was the master of breaking news. Here’s an idea. The guys can just make new posts about random things like, YouTube videos and news, polls and rumors that are already on the Internet so little kids can feel like they’re getting something relevant.
“Sadly, I would not be surprised if Girardi has both Moeller and Winn in the lineup tonight.”
Ouch, I forgot about Moeller. But Cervelli had 2 hits last night, works well with CC, it’s a night game and the Yankees are off tomorrow. So, I’m crossing my fingers that he’ll be in the lineup today.
I don’t think Jay’s post was ‘creepy’, necessarily.
The album cover to “Black Sabbath”? Now THAT’S creepy.
Betsy – did you happen to catch Phil and AJ playing the drums on Yankees on Deck just now??
“He has improved in all facets of the game since coming to New York and you have to respect that.”
I agree. When he came here I considered him a back-up. Not anymore. I remember him working on his throws with (I think Eiland). All aspects of his game have improved. I do respect that.
Don’t u think girardi was a little over managing yesterday when putting in miranda against a righty, with bases loaded, instead of thames who has proven to get the big hit when needed!!!
Alex last night had an excellent at bat as well. He reserved one swing for himself and took a healthy rip, then settled down and stroked a single. Good stuff.
Bo knows May 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Just thought I’d throw in a bit of good stuff – Swisher’s at bats last night. I’ve hated Swisher ever since I first saw him in a Yankee uniform, the Bouncing Betty at bats, the cartwheels in the OF, the rainbow throws. Walking by the TV last night and I saw this very quiet balanced set up, powerful in controled swing, it was beautiful. Amazing what Long has done and how much Swisher was willing to change and work to accomplish this. I love a player that understands situational hitting. That ten pitch at bat resulting in a single was classic. Swisher was going to get on base and that’s all he would accept. He has improved in all facets of the game since coming to New York and you have to respect that.
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I agree Bo. It has been a pleasure to watch a ballplayer improve like that. K Long has done quite a job with several guys – a most impressive coach.
“Don’t u think girardi was a little over managing yesterday when putting in miranda against a righty, with bases loaded, instead of thames who has proven to get the big hit when needed!!!”
That was NL managing at it finest. He did bring Thames in, then Manuel countered with a RH reliever, then Girardi countered with the LH pinch hitter.
And thats how position players end up pitching in an extra inning game.
Tin Cup…..Real good stuff….I hope everyone took the time to read your contribution earlier…….Gunslinger eyes……
Pat M. May 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Tin Cup…..Real good stuff….I hope everyone took the time to read your contribution earlier…….Gunslinger eyes……
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I loved that post Randy. It summed up what I love the most about baseball. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Don?t u think girardi was a little over managing yesterday when putting in miranda against a righty, with bases loaded, instead of thames who has proven to get the big hit when needed!!!
This has become the new catch phrase – over managing. Some couch potato in Momma’s basement talks about overmanaging. Some unathletic paper hack talks overmanaging. It is to weep. They don’t even comprehend what’s involved but hey Girardi overmanaged. The guy who made a very good living despite a light bat because of catching skills. The guy making millions a year for his managing skills. Thames would be batting on one foot, he’s one of the walking wounded. Girardi worked to get the matchup he wanted. Hey, in baseball you’re great if you succeed 30 percent of the time. You give it a shot. You try to work percentages and yep sometimes they fail. The other team is trying to win the game as well.
Bo
Not defending or attacking anyone but even the accomplished media uses the term ‘overmanaging’.
Its common actually.
RIP Jose Lima
http://deadspin.com/5545651/
Bo Knows……It’s easier to complain and second guess in the aftermath of the event……..Very NY
I wonder if the ML has figured out Hughes. If he’s going to stick to his fastball/cutter combo throughout the entire game, it won’t be long when the ML readjusts to Hughes – if it hasn’t already. I don’t understand why he doesn’t go to his changeup more often or increase the amount of breaking balls he throws.
http://www.yankeeboards.com
Craig Nettles of the Gunslinger eyes, Woah. You mean the Craig Nettles that won a World Series by himself by spearing line drives multiple times, getting up and firing seeds to 1B? That Craig Nettles? Yep, I believe the eyes.
Poor Jose Lima. I liked Lima time. Awwwwwwwwww
Lima once had Tony Pena sing the national anthem before he pitched simulated game in the bullpen.
Rest in Peace.
Jose Lima…Very sad. Seemed like a troubled guy.
“It’s easier to complain and second guess in the aftermath of the event……..Very NY”
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yup. In 3 years have observed NY fans to be poor losers.
they are not familiar with the concept “tip your hat”. It is always someones fault even if it has to be manufactured
NY fans (all new york city fans)
Hey Pat, how you doing?
I just want to bow in respect on that “stagger to the keg” exchange by SF Nick and yours truly a few nights ago. A great observation and your worthy response the next day was of a piece. Talk about apropos. I admire minds that come up with those 10 degrees off, comments.
Personally, my extra pain killer was a combo of multiple Tylenol 3 and a bottle of cheap vodka as chaser.
jay,
The only reason it seems like Pete made so many posts is because half of them doesn’t even have anything to do with baseball or the yankees. Most people here were sick of him making posts after posts on the freaking patriots. He also made a bunch of posts about Springstein, movies, or just random crap nobody cares about but himself.
This blog is fine just the way it is right now.
Bo Knows…..Entertaining night indeed……However my man Nick in SF hasn’t invitied me back since…….No keg parties for me, I’ve been 86th for awhile I suppose…..
PeteAbe never understood that -
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If the posters leave, the blog dies
If LoHud doesn’t support it, the blog dies.
If PeteAbe leaves, the blog lives … and grows
Wow, RIP Jose Lima – way, way, way too young to go. He was younger than I am.
Not defending or attacking anyone but even the accomplished media uses the term ?overmanaging?.
Its common actually.
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That’s my complaint. Accomplished media hmm. That’s a debate right there.
There is no such thing as over managing. It’s the results that count. “Just win Baby”.
If Miranda cranks one out, Girardi is a genius, as it happened he’s a goat. All depending on squaring up a pitch by a rookie. Baseball is a complex game that looks simple.
Girardi has the stones to make a move. It’s much easier to be a Bigelow Joe in his later years.
Entertaining night indeed??However my man Nick in SF hasn?t invitied me back since??.No keg parties for me, I?ve been 86th for awhile I suppose?..
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Naah, you guys will be back. You’re riding the curl. And I’ll be wading through the grubbage to find and appreciate the nuggets. That’s why I come back time after the time.
“Gunslinger eyes”
Where in hell would you find anything remotely like that, elsewhere?
lol @ Halladay.
Already, he aint receiving the borderline calls that help him in being so effective!!
RS,
Girardi still thinks this is the 2009 Jeter. That is why he is still leading him off.
The 2009 Jeter had a much higher batting average and OBP. He was also stealing more bases.
The 2010 Jeter is the complete opposite.
Gardner needs to lead off.
GTLU
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Tex (come on man) 1B
Alex 3B
Cano2B
Swish RF
Cervelli C
Russo LF
CC P
Jose Lima? What happened. He was young.
Hughes will learn. I noticed that he started throwing more curves later in the game. This is a learning experience since this is his first full year as a starter. I have confidence in him.
the youkstah just went down like a ton of bricks on a triple then got hit in the face with the relay throw it was amazing
Jose Lima had a heart attack.
unkown
Tex is bad news, stop dreaming he’s a drag on the top of the order. A rookie can play defense on 1st, and would hit better than him. e needs to either be benched, or dropped lower in the batting order period.
We’ve entered interleague play and soon the All Star Break, and he’s still in a slump? Even Ortiz is contributing to the sux now in a timely way!!
and that’s what would have happened in the world series in 2008 had the red sox faced the phillies.
dropped balls at the wall, 4 game sweep for red sox!!!
ya gotta love it when Tim Wakefield gets borderline calls that Roy halladay dont get!!
“Jose Lima? What happened. He was young.”
Dead at 37. Heart attack.
I think my Yankees need more motivational posts from me.
Jeremy
Hate to say ‘good’, but Im glad Jose didnt pass from drugs or anything, so he couldnt have his name be dragged through the mud.
I think Tex needs some time off. It’s alright if a player is slumping because it happens to everyone but Tex looks totally lost at the plate right now. I can’t even pitch and I think I could get him out.
http://www.theyankeeu.com/2010.....ight-18221
Guess The Line Up is Now Open.
I will accept lineups until 4-ish or until a lineup is posted on Twitter.
Good luck.
Joe from long island
I read on http://wwwhuffingtonpost.com under sports tab, he was 37 and it was a heart attack.
Betsy –
I finished that book this morning.
Wow.
CR9
Yeah you hate to hear about drugs. The media loves that kind of stuff.
Dedicated to all who post as to Cash’s ineptitude – Two words – Swisher Trade.
Doreen, I knew you would love it………On the one hand, you have the frivolity of the Columbian Exhibition and on the other the tragedies of these poor women and that poor family. I believe Holmes is considered America’s first serial killer…..
jeter ss
gardner cf
tex 1b
arod 3b
cano 2b
swish rf
russo lf
cervelli c
cc p
And watch the Phillies get shut down by Old man Wakefield. They got shut down by Dice-BB and now and old man.
sox vs Halladay is 14-14 FYI
Of course Wakefield it out-dueling Halladay… of course he is.
I guess this Phillies team was OK taking 1 from the Sox and are content with giving them the next 2 games. Almsot got no-hot by Dice-k yesterday and getting handled by Wakefield today and Roy isin’t sharp.
This same author wrote a book (I forget the name, but I have it) about a very well known murderer in England who escaped and the efforts of the police on both sides of the Atlantic to capture him. The wireless played a huge part in that effort and so the book, like Devil in the White City, is sort of split in two (with one part about Marconi and the other about this Englishman)
jeter ss
gardner cf
tex 1b
arod 3b
cano 2b
swish rf
cervelli c
russo lf
cc p
CR9 #2, CR9#3, and CR9#4 to follow with lineups!! Kidding!!
Jeremy
The nonfightin Phils are just up there hacking away. They dont care.
Phillies are frauds. They can’t even win a series from a mediocre Red Sox team in their own building.
Either that, or the Sox are back. Everyone said they would fall out of the race with their tough schedule, but they are about to win 5 of 7 against NY, MIN, and PHI, 5 of those games on the road.
Sando and Allan
This game is far from over. Let’s not calll it a Sox series win YET!
Betsy -
I was amazed I’d never heard of him before.
There was so much in that book that strikes you – about the times, about how the more things change, the more they’re the same, how things (inventions) are born of necessity even how experiences of one generation can be seminal in the dreams and contributions of the next (L. Frank Baum, Walt Disney) – really fascinating on so many levels. I couldn’t put it down and I recommended it to my husband.
Halladay is such a Loser.
jeter ss gardner cf swisher rf arod 3b cano 2b tex 1B cervelli C russo lf sabathia P
CR9 -
You’re in a good mood this morning.
I haven’t read a thing on this blog since about 9 last night.
CR9
I agree. The great Phillies offense looks pathetic right now. At least the Yankees failed against a good pitcher in Pelfrey the Phillies failed against an overrated 100 pitches 5 innings Dice-k.
The Phillies’ suck in interleague play. They got swept by the Blue Jays at home last year, swept by the Red Sox at home, and lost a series to the Orioles. I think the Yankees are the only team they beat actually.
The last three years the Phillies are 6-12, 4-11, 8-7, and 5-13 in interleague play.
Roy owns the Yankees, not so much the Sox who he is 14-14 against.
Rule #1 – Never rely on an NL team to help you out, it won’t happen, especially against a team like the Sox.
Doreen, I’d heard of him, but that’s only because true crime sort of fascinates me; I was not aware of the extent of his crimes…….Women were now allowed for the first time (probably) to travel by themselves, so they were undoubtedly naive – I guess all Americans were at the time. Who could imagine that anyone could commit such horrors?
You know, you just reminded me – that’s right. Didn’t Walt Disney’s father work at the fair……..? I had forgotten that – and yes, now I remember that L. Frank Baum took his inspiration for the Emerald City from the White City. I have a documentary about the fair and a book as well – from the photos, you can tell just how spectacular it was. I took a tour of that area the last time I was in Chicago. There is one building still remaining, the Museum of Science and Industry – it was the only one build out of permanent materials. I will definitely go there this week.
Speaking of true crime, I watched a movie on Showtime about Ed Gein, the murderer whom inspired Psycho and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I mean, what a truly disturbed man. He wasn’t (or so they couldn’t prove it) technically a serial killer, but the crimes he committed were borne out of a particularly disturbed mind (thanks mostly to his relationship with his mother). That’s just scary in a psychological way.
roy halladay’s career ERA vs red sox is 7.90
Halladay isn’t pitching poorly at all. He has faced 11 batters and gotten 8 groundouts plus 1 strikeout. Only thrown 33 pitches through 3 innings.
Wakefield has gotten into a couple of jams, and I think the Phillies will get to him eventually. Remember, he is one of those pitchers who can look dominant for 5 innings and then give up a 5 spot.
Wow, too bad about Lima, he was a character.
Doreen/Betsy
don’t tease, what book are you talking about?
Also if they get shut down by Wakefield that would be funny.
“roy halladay’s career ERA vs red sox is 7.90″
That’s not possible. He would never have a 14-14 record against them if that were the case. It would be more like 6-22.
Kate, Devil in the White City – by Erik Larsen. It’s one of the best books I’ve ever read…
Doreen
uh oh! So I as-sume you read “The sound and the fury” of my umpire complaining last night!!
Im always in a good mood about the Yanks. Positivity goes a long way!! And in an even better mood today because my beautiful lady Tiki’s face is improving daily!!
I have a great nickname for Winn, btw. Randy Winnie the Pooh!!!
SS Jeter
CF Gardner
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
RF Swisher
C Cervelli
LF Russo
P Sabathia
Thanks
GTLU
SS Jeet
CF GGBG
1B Tex
3B Alex
2B Robbie
RF Swish
C Cisco
LF Russo
P CC “you know who big”
thanks Doreen, especially for doing this on the weekend
HAHAHAHA!!!! Greg Dobbs just missed an inning ending DP!!!!!!! ANd allowed 2 runs to score!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cervelli C
Russo LF
Sabathia P
thanks Betsy, I will have to look for it
CR, explain again why you are getting a kick out of seeing our division rival win?
Yesterday on Fox’s broadcast, Tim McCarver pointed out that Gene Monahan was back. That is great, but that begs the question of could the Yankees’ rash of injuries be any way associated with his absence earlier this year? I don’t know of course, I’m just asking. Maybe now he is back, the ship will right itself. These things have a way of cycling around. Maybe they will be healthier after the all-star break.
You’re welcome, Kate – it’s not a new book, by the way.
Betsy, as a fellow English major I will take your book suggestion. Thanks.
And you too Doreen
Astros threatening in the first.
Yesterday on Fox’s broadcast, Tim McCarver pointed out that Gene Monahan was back. That is great, but that begs the question of could the Yankees’ rash of injuries be any way associated with his absence earlier this year?
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That doesn’t “beg the question.”
Like I’ve said for 2 years. THANK YOU 2008 Tampa Bay Rays, for beating the Red Sox, and preventing the Red Sox from an easy simple 4 game sweep of the nonfightin Phils!
I will forever hold Joe Maddon and the Tampa Bay Rays in my heart for that!!
Red Sox now up 3-0
This one is over.
If you can’t hit Wake, you have no business winning anyway.
Last time DJ was playing for a contract was 1999, and he had a monster year.
.990 OPS
102 RBI
.349 BA
Career highs for each.
Going into this season, I remember hearing some of the ‘experts’ in the media speculating that he’d be in line for $$$ similar to, if not greater than, his current contract.
“Will Jeter look for A-Rod money?” That seems nuts now.
While I’m 100% for signing Jeter (of course), the $20M/yr days are behind him, imho. There are no indications that he’s going to go on some epic streak and replicate those career high #s.
His next contract should be fair, but not so out of line with what the market would dictate that it precludes making additional moves. What would be fair, but not ridiculous?
$18M per??
CR9,
Agree. You can say alot of things about Tampa, but you can’t question their play against the Sox!
The fightin frauds are a different story. That series wouldn’t have even been competitive.
Yankees are choking to death. Look at how Sux handle Holladay.
Now for all those people saying the Yankees look pathetic right now take a look at the Phillies. They can’t even score a run off of Dice-BB and old man Wakefield.
Woohoo, 4-0 Astros, still just 1 out in the inning.
No updates today? Lol some1 is feeling lazy
Joba Tips his Cap
First of all his name is Halladay. Second, the Yankees are not choking they are slumping.
Betsy
That’s CR9 #162 getting a kick out of the Red Sox winning! Not the real CR9
Easiest answer, rather than get upset at the PHils gifting them a victory, I find it easier to laugh!!
While we fight for every victory we get, they get a team of nonfightin Phils hacking away at every pitch, allowing Deuce-K to no hit them, and Wake to make them look foolish. If I dont learn to laugh at it sooner rather than later, I’ll be Six Feet Under before I know it!!
Yanks played with 10x more effort than Philly has.
Dice-K and Wakefield are shutting the meltdown in their own building!!
Meanwhile, their “ace” has already given up 3 runs and its only the 4th inning.
CR9
I agree. The Phils beat up a Tampa team that was running on fumes after beating the Sox in the ALCS that year. The Phillies would have failed if they faced the Sox or if the ALCS ended earlier.
Phillies took us to 6 games, but they would have gotten swpt by the Sox
Don’t look now, but the Sox would have gained 5 games on us in the last 5 days.
On Tuesday, they were 8 back. If we lose tonight, they would be only 3 back. Ouch!
The only reason why the Phillies took the Yankees to 6 was because of Cliff Lee.
David Price threw 41 pitches in the first inning. Ouch
Yanks need to clean up their own house before worrying about other teams, but the Sox really are right behind them.
Anyway, Fran – you’ll love it
So, there’s a CR and a CR #162?
Also I am not worried about the Sox. It’s only May and the Sox in my opinion are not the biggest threat. Some people around here make it seem like it’s August.
I hope the rest of you agree, but I have the utmost respect for Cole Hamels.
He could have turned it on (a la David Wright) and changed his entire season/playoffs around in Game 3, even moreso, he had a 3-0 lead to work with.
But he blew it in the pivotal game and gifted us a World Series!!!!
And then Cole beat the Sox on Friday!!! Love ya Cole!!! And Cole’s HOT!!
“On Tuesday, they were 8 back. If we lose tonight, they would be only 3 back. Ouch!”
That’s because the Yankees have been playing .350 ball for two weeks now. The Sox are catching up because the Yankees have let them. The thing is, the Yankees have dealt with injuries, key players slumping, and a hard schedule all at the same time. Despite this, they have 5 fewer losses than the Sox. Once the Yankees start playing .600 ball again and go off on a roll, the gap will widen once again.
I would rather Tampa run away from everyone and the Sox fade into the abyss rather than Tampa come back to the pack and the Sox fight their way back into the race (which they would have done this week now, being potentially 3 games back after tonight).
I’d rather have the assurance that we’d be going to the playoffs with Boston being several games back rather than all 3 teams fighting for 2 spots and leaving it in the hands of which team is the healthiest or gets the hottest down the stretch. Goal one should be to push Boston out of the picture and deal with Tampa head on, rather than having to deal with both teams.
Of course, we can’t pick our scenario, but benefits us for Boston to go away as soon as possible. Unfortunately, that probably won’t happen.
Is CR9 #162 CR9′s alter ego? Does CR9 #162 still like hot guys or is that only CR9?
One more thing…all those years the Yankees came back from an 8-10 game deficit in the standings to take the division, they only did so because of their complete domination against the Red Sox in the second half of the season.
The Sox can play extremely well against the rest of the league, but the Yankees are going to rack up just as many wins against inferior teams. The only way the Sox overtake the Yankees in the standings, IMO, is if they beat them handedly head-to-head. And there’s really no indication of that happening, based on past history and what we’ve already witnessed this year.
Homerun for Puke !
Betsy
It’s just a joke. I tried submitting multiple lineups to Doreen for GTLU yesterday under CR9 #2!
And Yes, every alter ego of CR9 loves hot guys!!!!!!
Hey all. First for the good news. The Suxers next stop is at the Trop, where they’ll play the Rays for three games. You have to admit it will be fun to watch them both try to beat each
other’s brains out. And the Yankees will be beneficiaries one way or the other.
Next, while it certainly is never pleasant watching the Yankees play like a minor league team, we’ve been there often enough to know that it is temporary. They have swoons like this every year. In fact, it might have been around this time last year that they lost 8 in a row, something like that. To lose 8 in a row, you probably aren’t pitching, fielding, or hitting.
Last year they were also playing without some of their top guns. So it is what it is. Teams press when they’re not playing well, and it causes them to play even worse. Happens to the best of teams, they all go through it at some point. Good teams find their way back to sunlight. The Yankees will find their way back too. How lucky for them that they have the cushion that they do.
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Would have been happy if Jacoby Ellsbury were out a lot longer this season. I think he makes the Sux a better team. I think their relief in getting him back has caused them to play a lot looser also.
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Nick in SF, I am still a friend of Randy Winn. I read through the game posts and it really was hard seeing posters refer to any Yankee player as “garbage”. Why call him “old man Winn.” I think he’s probably younger than some of our other roster players. Nobody’s calling them “old man”. I didn’t get to watch last night’s game because I was totally blacked out of it. So no I didn’t get to see him drop balls nor did I get to see him not make timely hits or whatever else he did. But I do remember seeing him get hits and catch balls. I also remember seeing Nick Swisher last season make some terrible plays in the outfield. And I remember watching some of our vets go through very cold moments at the plate. I may have winced at some of the events but never did I get to the point of thinking that the players were garbage, should be DFA, or anything else. I guess I felt as bad for them as I did for the Yankee team because I always believed they were out there giving their best and surely didn’t want to do anything to hurt the team.
As long as a player is on the Yankee roster and isn’t stinking the field out while at the same time claiming to be doing a good job, that player has my total support.
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Busy weekend. Having a party for one of my sisters who hopefully has earned her final graduate degree. I’m thinking she has and since she sandwiched this one in between a very demanding job, it is definitely party worthy!
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I would like to think tonight is a turning point for the Yankees and the cold bats will heat up, etc. I know it’s coming and I believe winning is right around the corner. So all I can do is keep the faith til it happens.
EVERY DAWN IS A NEW BEGINNING
GO YANKEES!!!
Also David Price is not looking good against a weak Astros team. So some people should not get on Phil Hughes so much.
I hope everyone knows why this happened.
Because Charlie Manuel purposely left out Halladay 5 days ago to throw 135 pitches in a complete game loss.
Manuel did it purposely, because he knew Halladay would be tired 5 days later pitching against the Sox!!!!!!
Nice of Halladay to show up
We all know no matter what kind of stuff he has when he plays the Yankees, he would get through at least 8 with one run tops
Youklis is playing better than any Yanks right now.
I am tired of watching him get the clutch hit over and over.
Halladay is starting to get lit up.
# CR9 #162 May 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I hope everyone knows why this happened.
Because Charlie Manuel purposely left out Halladay 5 days ago to throw 135 pitches in a complete game loss.
Manuel did it purposely, because he knew Halladay would be tired 5 days later pitching against the Sox!!!!!!
oh, you mean Charlie Manuel purposely let his team lose to Sux?
get a life, would you?
CR9,
I wasn’t a believer in your conspiracy theories earlier, but I must say, you have done a great job convincing me otherwise. There is simply no other explanation why teams as good as Philly or Minnesota can look as bad as they have against the Sox this week.
I hope Joba’s blown game didn’t get them on a roll. But rather, it might be other teams/managers refusing to make the right moves to beat them, like you mentioned leaving Halladay out there for 135 pitches when he knew he was facing the Sox the next day.
Jeremy,
You may want to bring out your Joba disdain again… it looks like his implosion against the Sox has gotten them on a roll LOL
Joba
Why are you attacking me? You usually agree with my posts, or respectfully disagree.
I thought it was pretty obvious. When you guys were on here talking the other day about Halladay being left in for 135 pitches, I knew it was because he faced the Sox 5 days later. I knew it, there was no doubt!
Joba Tips his Cap
Maybe because he is just a hot hitter right now. It’s a long season and things change. The Yankees are slumping but we have seen this time and time again. Is this the first time you watched baseball ?
Halladay is such a bum! Winning pitchers beat the Sox. They don’t just show up against the Yankees and go in the tank for the Sox.
This weekend couldn’t have shaped up any better for Philly after they rocked Lackey and took game 1.
Sox showed some character by fighting back, but I blame it more on Philly refusing to show up.
And to be honest, Charlie Manuel would have lost the 2008 World Series to them in 4 games (of course, without Cliff Lee) and then personally awarded them the World Series trophy!
If the Sox can go into Philly and win 2 games with their 2 worst pitchers, we better be able to win a series from the freakin Mets.
I know Santana is good, but Halladay is getting lit up, why can’t Santana?
This is not Halladay’s fault at all. I cant blame him. His manager abused his arm many starts in a row leading up to this game, with purpose!
Outlawz
Yeah it’s Joba’s fault. LOL !
I was mad for a couple of days because I never saw such a horrible performance like that in a long time.
SS JETER
RF SWISHER
1B TEIXEIRA
3B RODRIGUEZ
2B CANO
C CERVELLI
CF GARDNER
LF RUSSO
P SABATHIA
The Astros are more dependable to get the job done against our rivals than those dou_chebag Phillies.
So glad we beat their face in last year. They deserve it,
Outlawz,
LOL! Nice.
If the Sox to get hot and stay hot, we can always blame Joba! Had a chance to put them 9 back! Screw you Joba!
oba
Why are you attacking me? You usually agree with my posts, or respectfully disagree.
I thought it was pretty obvious. When you guys were on here talking the other day about Halladay being left in for 135 pitches, I knew it was because he faced the Sox 5 days later. I knew it, there was no doubt!
Are you the real CR9? if so, I apologize.
back to baseball, I just don’t buy the theory that other teams want to sacrifice their own interests to make Yanks suffer.
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Swisher RF
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Thames LF
Miranda 1B
Cervelli C
CC P
Now the Phillies show some fight. Too late fools !
no matter what, I am tired of watching that lazy, fat pitcher.
you know who I mean.
That was me! We can agree to disagree Joba. I respect your opinion! On the flip side, I’ve gotta believe that Cole Hamels holds a place in his heart for the Yanks. What other pitcher would be hopeful of the season ending while in a World Series with the chance at a repeat?!!!
I ♥ that delicious beauty known as Cole!!
Look at that, Utley gets a triple and they can’t even get the run in. Pathetic !
Especially against old man Wake.
Yanks are doing plenty to themselves to suffer
Not Charlie Manual’s fault that Tex can’t hit a beach ball, Joba blew 2 games in 3 days, or that the starters have come down to earth, or that we suck with RISP.
Not his fault that Winn sucks either.
We need to get back on track and soon. The easy schedule argument doesn’t hold much water. Not going to face many easier teams than the Mets. They can’t hit, their pen is shaky, they can’t hit with RISP, and they are going to fire their manager. Yet we struggled to beat them Friday and lost yesterday.
Goes back to the Nationals/Marlins/Sox/Braves series last year. When we can’t hit, it doesn’t matter who we face. Cleveland/Baltimore/Houston games are not the cure for all that ails us.
Can’t believe they are even paying R. Howard to play.
Such a bum of unprecedented proportions.
“Because Charlie Manuel purposely left out Halladay 5 days ago to throw 135 pitches in a complete game loss.
Manuel did it purposely, because he knew Halladay would be tired 5 days later pitching against the Sox!!!!!!”
Manuel abused his best pitcher because the RS were coming to town. Yea, right.
Phillies have quit.
They know they can be mediocre and still win the joke that is the NL so they are not even trying to beat the Sox.
NL is a joke, so are the teams from there…
Joba Tips His cap
Let me take a guess…Joba
Yeah I don’t know what to think about Joba. The guy is just not the same pitcher he was back in 2007-2008.
Maybe the Phillies are looking ahead to facing the Mets this week
CR9-
Nah, didn’t read your umpire rants.
I kinda need a break from the dissection of the team (not meant as an attack on anyone, just I needed a mental break), so I made a choice to leave the game post in the middle of the game last night and then another conscious decision to not read what I decided to skip last night when I woke up this morning.
Betsy -
I kept trying to picture in my mind where all the structures were and I tried to look up a map of the area at the time and I wanted to place it in my mind to the existing landscape. Have fun when you visit.
Not like the Sox are doing it against fluke teams… they have won 5 of 7 games this week against probably 3 of the 4 best teams in baseball. And five of those games were on the road.
Outlook is a lot different for them than it was after Thames took Papelbon deep. They have responded in a big way. I thought this stretch would kill them. They are beat good teams and doing it on the road as well.
CR9,
Flyers beating the Bruins took all the life out of the Philly teams… now the rest of the Philly teams will roll over for Boston teams.
The Yankees will turn it around. They always do. We have been down this road many years and you would think some fans would be use to it by now.
Someone mentioned the classic swoon the Yanks have after beating the Sux and vice versa, while the losing team usually picks up a head of steam.
Exhibit A.
RS need to take at least 2 of 3 when they play the Rays. Rays have to come back to the pack a little.
Joba tips his cap – I think we are ALL tired of watching the fat lazy pitcher
Doreen
Smart decision to leave the thread. The ripping and dissection this team takes is unbelievable. So they’re struggling, so what. Every team struggles. This team, when it starts clicking on all cylinders, will run away with the American League!
Nothing aside from our starting pitchers have clicked this season. Beware American League!
The Mets have been inconsistent this season, but to say they out and out stink is not true. They were actually in first place for about 30 hours, right? I mean, they ran off a nice streak of victories. Pelfry is probably one of their most reliable pitchers. The Yankees should have a decent shot against Santana.
But the real truth of the matter is that this team (the Yankees) is just in a funk and I’m not going to get all riled up about the particulars. Not in May. Not in June.
As for teams who can’t beat Wakefield, I recall the last time the Yankees faced him, they didn’t do so hot. Schadenfraude can bring payback.
“The Yankees will turn it around. They always do. We have been down this road many years and you would think some fans would be use to it by now.”
Jeremy that’s what I tried to point out in my earlier post. This isn’t new stuff. Best we can do as fans is grit our teeth through it and wait it out.
Betsy,
The Erik Larsen book you are thinking of that includes Marconi is called “Thunderstruck.” I enjoyed it but not nearly as much as Devil in the White City. Maybe because I went to school in Chicago and love Chicago? I don’t know.
Another worthwhile Larsen book is “Isaac’s Storm,” about the great hurricane that hit Galveston in 1906, I believe, and the meteorologist who basically did not predict it. Fascinating stuff.
They play like crap against the RS now but watch Halladay & Co. play their best against us next month when we meet them.
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“But the real truth of the matter is that this team (the Yankees) is just in a funk and I?m not going to get all riled up about the particulars. Not in May. Not in June. ”
Yes. And about Wakefield. He has been very unhappy in his role in the bullpen and has made it clear that he wants to start. He certainly had added incentive to pitch like Cy today.
Trisha
You are brilliant!! You always seem to be spot on!! I’ll always be a friend of Randy Winnie the Pooh, also!!!!
Uh oh, Rays are coming back on the ‘Stros.
Ellsbury. GRRR!!!
Doreen,
I agree about Pelfrey. I posted last night that I believe he is the Mets ace now, not Santana. To me Santana has shown signs of being on the downside. I think the Yanks have a good chance tonight.
“I?ll always be a friend of Randy Winnie the Pooh, also!!!!”
And that optimism and Yankee loyalty are just two of the things that make me love you so much!!!
See you later tonight. I’m thinking I’ll be home by gametime or shortly thereafter and will meet you on YUKU.
Trisha
Right ! This team will come back strong.
“all those years the Yankees came back from an 8-10 game deficit in the standings to take the division”
All those years? They’ve come from an 8-10 game deficit to take the division once since 2000.
“Santana has shown signs of being on the downside.”
I’ll take Santana and his downside. Trade AJ for Santana.
Mets set an MLB record… going from sole possession of first place to sole possession of last place in just 15 days. At least thats what the Mets broadcasters said.
“I’ll take Santana and his downside. Trade AJ for Santana.”
If only we were so lucky
Jeremy, fyi – Phil’s velocity has decreased the last few starts, so it may be something to keep an eye on.
As someone who danced on the Sox grave, I look pretty dumb right now.
Still hoping I am proven right!
JM, that’s right! I started it and never finished it………..I haven’t read Isaac’s Storm, but I’d like to one day; that’s a real tragedy.
The Mets do not stink, but even if they did, no game against any major league team is a given nor is it easy. The Yankees couldn’t beat my office softball team the way they’re playing – everything has fallen apart for them: SP, pen, defense, hitting. Yes, they have one of the best records in baseball, but that was built up early. They need to get going and get going soon.
I won’t sing any hosannahs to the Sox yet, but people were digging their grave WAY too early. The pitching will only get better and their offense is very good.
Enough with Halladay or the Phil’s choking. Doc is allowed a bad day – and yes, it could easily have to do with that moron Manuel letting him throw 132 pitches last out.
Jetes – SS
GGBG – CF
Tex – 1B
Alex – 3B
Cano – 2B
Swish – RF
Cisco – C
Russo – LF
CC – P
the dropped pop up on YES right now….
Doreen,
Here is my line-up. I am going with the popular choice today, but I have a gut feeling that Moeller is going to catch tonight, giving Cervelli 2 days off with the off day tomorrow.
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cervelli C
Russo LF
Sabathia P
Thanks
GTLU
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Cervelli C
Russo LF
Gardner CF
CC P
Betsy
He reached 94 on the gun and his last start his velocity was fine. I’m not worried about his velocity, and the Yankees don’t seem to be worried. I think some people worry too much. Hughes will be fine.
I don’t think Pelfrey is their ace yet, but he’s good. I’m still ticked off that we lost to him because now we have to hear about how he’s better than Phil……well, he might be right now, but I still can’t bear it. I detest the Mets…….and I hate to see them developing such good young players as Pelfrey and Davis.
Jeter SS
Gardner LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Thames LF
Cevelli C
Sabathia P
We’ll see Jeremy – I hope you’re right.
Not even going to bother listening to the radio tomorrow unless we win.
All we will hear is how the Sox are back and dangerous and how impressive they were beating Philly
and how impressive Pelfrey was and how he is the best young pitcher in NY and Hughes is coming down to earth.
Worry about Hughes? He is one of the last players on the Yankees I would worry about.
The following people have submitted lineups for GTLU:
UnKnown
mick
CR9
Erin
upstate kate
CT23
Trevor
Clint
so does lohud only have Rick Carpiniello covering this series or what?
whats up with the lack of updates on this “big time” series?
now that victor martinez can throw again the red sox are a much better team.
stolen bases are no longer taking them out of games.
i’d say if victor martinez can stay in the catcher spot and do a good job the rest of the season the red sox are going to be close to the yankees.
the yankees had a tremendous advantage in the catcher position when posada was playing and martinez couldn’t throw anyone out.
that totally changes now.
who else misses pete? this blog is going down the tubes. where are all the updates?????????
The Astros offense is so bad. After making Price throw 40+ pitches in the first inning, they are allowing him to reach the sixth inning, and maybe even the seventh. They’re just hacking away at the plate even though Price walked three batters in the first inning.
Epic slack job by the LoHud staff this weekend. This Rick guy sucks
Betsy
All pitchers fail especially young ones. Halladay just got lit up by the Red Sox. Does that mean that he is in bad shape. I think some people worry too much on this board. Hughes had no issue with velocity at all. They couldn’t catch up to his fastball. He just made some mistakes with a few pitches and had some bad breaks. It happens.
You should have more confidence Betsy.
Doreen,
I submitted one at 3:48. Thanks.
Also, Jeremy – maybe his first few starts were all adrenaline-based; if so, obviously that can’t hold up. He may really be a 91-93 guy, not 92-94.
That really wouldn’t matter though, because if he’s got the late life on his FB, he might as well be throwing 94, 95
GTLU:
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
tex 1B
Arod 3b
Cano 2b
Cervi C
Gardner CF
Thames LF
CC SP
I just added the following people for GTLU:
NYY626
Fran (the original)
Jason
Dylan
Now the Sox catchers can throw guys out ?
I think it’s still to early to call the Red Sox some great team. Even the Pirates go through good stretches. Some posters love talking about the Red Sox more than they do the Yankees. Sound worse then Red Sox fans.
If Pete were here, he would have linked Lupcia’s column about A-Rod/Galea and chimed in abouth ow he agrees with him and A-Rod is dishonest and we would be arguing over that all day.
Pete was the master of hook-line-sinker.
mat
Mr. Carpiniello’s main job is not covering the Yankees. It’s not even his second job with Lohud. He is one of the most respected and fair journalists towards NY teams in all of NY.
Red Sox were never as bad as they looked early on. We looked just as bad some seasons.
And despite people knocking their offense all season, they have done nothing but mash the ball. They rallied from 5 runs down twice against us, put up big #s against the Twins, and have blown out Philly the last 2 games. They also scored 13 runs in their first 2 games against the Tigers.
Once Lackey and Beckett start pitching to their career numbers, they are going to be a major factor. So will we. we just have to hope we have less injuries and our pen/starters can outperform theirs.
Jeremy, what I’m saying has nothing to do with last night. If you went back to my posts even when Phil was dominating, you’d see that I kept bringing up the fact that Phil was getting by with 2 pitches. Now, CB, SJ and others were fine with that, but I was skeptical………and I think now we’re seeing that Phil can not get by with 2 pitches (no one can). This has nothing to do with me worrying; it has to do with me thinking that Phil needs to be a complete pitcher. Just saying he’s going to be fine doesn’t really tell us much. He needs to incorporate his curve; it’s not going to improve unless he throws it. I don’t know if being in the pen convinced him that he doesn’t need it, but he does. I still believe there’s a plus curve there (how can you just completely lose it?), but it won’t be there for him unless he throws it. The same goes for the change. He seems to have the makings of a decent one, but he never throws it.
Wow, Jayson Werth has 22 doubles for the year already.
And I just added:
YanksfaninPA
Granderson 1-2 with a walk in today’s SWB game.
Maybe a great Phillies comeback is coming.
Betsy
All I’m saying is that he will not be a 2 pitch pitcher. He will learn from this as he goes along. Why worry when he is a young pitcher learning. He has the potential to be a number 1 and he will be. The last thing I would worry about is Phil Hughes.
Now Joba is an issue.
http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/14553635370
Interesting note: P. Hughes allowed 41 foul balls against the Mets Saturday — the most in almost five years(Jon Garland vs. Twins,’05, 42).
**Wow!**
The Astros suck! They had a 4-0 lead and are now trailing 7-5 to Tampa.
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The Santana of old shows up tonight.. you watch
The Yankees will make him look like Cy Young tonight
The offense is terrible right now, they couldn’t even score of a bum bullpen arm on Friday
Nobody on here has discussed Roy Oswalt.
He wants a contender. The Rangers and Mets have been speculated, but are hardly contenders.
What about us?
Andy might not return next year. We will be in need of 2 starters, with very few at all on the market.
Starting pitching depth is always of great value.
I see it is still the same thread as when I left lol.
Good news on Granderson – thanks Billy D! Well, I don’t even care if CG goes 0-20, as long as he stays healthy.
Leave it to Boston Olney to put out a negative tweet on a Yankee
Where was he when Buchholz gave up 6runs to us in 4 innings?
“Nobody on here has discussed Roy Oswalt”
He really hasn’t been very good.
Bryan,
Not exactly going out on a limb there. We can’t hit anyone right now.
Santana would be much more vulnerable if he was pitching at Yankee Stadium where his fly ball tendencies would hurt him. At Citi Field, he can comfortably attack us knowing the flyballs will stay in the park. Also knowing Tex is an automatic out if he feeds him change ups.
Billy D
He has a 2.50 ERA and has thrown 9 quality starts in his 9 total starts. He’s 2-6 or something because of the Astros team, not him.
The Yankees don’t need Roy Oswalt – and even if they did, he’s not coming to NY unless he’s done a complete turnabout. I would never trade anyone of value in our farm for him.
CR9,
If Cashman calls Houston about Oswalt, their GM demands Hughes and Montero
Theo calls Houston about Oswalt, their GM demands Manny Delcarmen
Just the way it works.
We need Berkman much more than we would need Oswalt.
thanks, Matt.
Let me guess… Olney said Hughes stinks right ?
That guy has to be one of the biggest hacks and Red Sox shills ever.
When the Yankees lit up Santana last year, they were swinging the bats well. The way they’re hitting now, don’t think that will be happening tonight.
Good news on Granderson – thanks Billy D! Well, I don’t even care if CG goes 0-20, as long as he stays healthy.
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Betsy,
Absolutely agree on that. The Yankees really need Granderson back in the OF.
GTLU
Jeter SS
Gardy CF
TexMex 1B
ARod 3B
Robbie 2B
Swish RF
Cervelli C
Russo LF
CC nuff said
I don’t think Thames can play the field yet on that ankle
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....BEkNckqbaN
And here are two questions to ponder: Who would you take for the next five years, Hughes or Pelfrey? And if the Mets had to win a game today who would you start on full rest in 2010, Pelfrey or Johan Santana?
Pelfrey made a statement against Hughes yesterday, and Santana will get to make one of his own tonight when he faces Yankees ace CC Sabathia in the Subway Series finale.
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I can’t answer this, but I guess Sherman figures that the answer is Pelfrey based on last night.
I didnt think Olney said Hughes stunk. It sounded like he was just saying a fact that there were a ton of foul balls off Hughes last night. And you can’t dispute that. He needs to improve on finishing hitters with 2 strikes which I think he can easily do by just throwing the hook more.
“Every time out there, my confidence continues to improve,” Pelfrey said. “We showed some fight, and that guy on the other side, Phil Hughes, was pretty tough.”
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z0omn0mcg1
Jeremy, he’s just reporting the facts…
Baseball is boring!
Let’s Go Rangers!
Betsy
You can never have enough quality starting pitching. And I would not give up anything of value for him either, like a Montero or a Romine.
But besides the very few “valuable” guys we have in our system, who the heck else is deemed as valuable.
Also, Oswalt has a very reasonable contract for the next 2 years, with a club option for a 3rd year.
Tonight is a game where the Yankees go full throttle. Tomorrow is a day off …. everybody can rest. A flight to Minnesota is not cross-country. No excuse accepted for having Moeller or Winn in the lineup.
CR9:
My bad. I was seeing the similarly 2-6 Wandy Rodriguez’s #’s.
Still don’t want him and his contract though.
I’d love either over the next 5 years as Pelfrey is turning into a top 5 NL pitcher but I’d take Hughes over big Pelf. Just think Hughes has more upside and I would love to see what Pelfrey would be doing in the NL east. I think his ERA would definetely be over 3.30 if he was in that league instead of the NL
Articles like that are exactly why I didn’t want to lose yesterday’s game
and watch, same thing if CC loses to Santana tonight. Articles about how Santana is still a better pitcher than CC and the Yanks should have made the trade.
I really despise the Subway Series. Why are we being judged against or compared to a team under .500 in the NL?
I don’t care if he was reporting the facts. The guys is still a hack and a Red Sox shill. He has no talent and he should be in the umepolyment line based on his work.
One thing to consider, of course, is that Phil is 2 (3?) years younger than Pelfrey and has a lot less experience as a starter.
Pelfrey is 26 years old
He’s actually almost 26.5 because he was born in early January 84. Buchholz is also 26, isin’t he?
Johan Santana won’t make any “statement” tonight against the Yankees, despite how he pitches.
The Yankees won the World Series with Sabathia as their ace and Phil Hughes as their dominant set-up man – neither of which would have been possible if the Yankees traded for Santana. Yankees made the right move not pulling the trigger on that deal. Already decided.
Santana is going to be pitching on a bad ballclub for the rest of the season, at least, despite how well he pitches tonight.
Oh by the way, The Texas Rangers are indeed a contender…..
my bad-unemployment line. LOL ! I can’t stand Olney.
May you Joba haters grow warts on your noses and other protrubences. Get a life! As long as Joba is a Yankee you should bite your tongue before you speak.
Tolerance and compassion is lacking in a lot of posters here. The downright venom towards Tex, Winn, Jeter (OMG) is unbelievable and unacceptable.
No wonder the better posters are seldom around. The haters have taken over.
I just realized why the Yankees lost yesterday. All my fault. On my GTLU web page, when I updated Joe Girardi’s lineup, I forgot to change the pitcher – I had Javy pitching. :LOL:
Last call for GTLU
Hughes stuff is better than Pelfrey’s, and Hughes is two years younger.
Hughes and Cervelli’s problem last night, once again, was being too reliant on the cutter.
The team picked the worst time to go cold.
They couldn’t have waited till the Cleveland/Toronto/Houston stretch to go cold?
But you just have to avoid or ignore those kinds of articles or take them with a grain of salt. It’s just one person’s opinion.
Hughes definitely needs to incorporate both his curve and slider more particularly when he’s ahead in counts 0-2 and 1-2.
It’s great that he’s proud of his fastball and loves his cutter but the curve and slider particularly backdoor to both lefties and righties is a must in some of these spots. Both are “feel” pitches so by going away from them he’ll lose them.
And where is the vaunted “change” that he’d perfected in ST that won him the job?
He must use his secondary pitches more if he wants better results going forward and Eiland should be barking at him about that.
“Buchholz is also 26, isin’t he?”
He is in a few months.
Who cares about Santana. The guys is on the downside of his career just like Pedro years ago and he hasn’t pitched in the postseason since 2006 with the Twins. Santana will never win a World Series ring with the Mets and Sabathia got a ring in his first year as a Yankee.
Doreen
Our loss was all YOUR FAULT!
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Tex 1B
Arod 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Thames LF
Moeller C
CC P
Hope not too late
Billy
His contract really is not all that bad. We have CC and AJ locked up for the next 4 years, at least, and Phil Hughes will be a staple of the rotation for a long time. Oswalt, with a contract for 2010 and 2011, would provide us with major flexibility.
Anyone know how Granderson looked in the field?
Rconn, the 2 years is a big deal, but Pelfrey is a real pitcher now…….and he’s been terrific this year. We know he has developed, but we now have to see if Phil can do the same thing.
CR9 -
I take full responsibility.
GTLU is Now Closed. Thanks everyone for playing.
I got your lineup William Buckner.
What slider? He hasn’t thrown a slider since HS, I believe – the Yankees had him scrap it.
Not throwing the change is just silly and it makes his words in ST seem like hot air.
The writers and columinsts who follow the Mets are some of the worst in the business. Just a bizarre group.
Only Mets beat writers could say that Jeff Francouer, who continues to be an atrocious offensive player, brings a “needed presence” to the Mets because he’s aggressive (meaning he lacks any concept of plate discipline.)
Meanwhile, David Wright, is “struggling” because of his strike out rate. Of course, he’s also the best offensive player on the team this year.
Now of course, they’ll tout Pelfrey as the better pitcher than Hughes based on one start in May.
Again, just a bizarre group.
Phil will be 24 in June, so he’s basically 2 years younger than Buchholz and 2 1/2 younger than Pelfrey. I e-mailed Sherman because I think his constant comparisons are silly, especially since Phil has a lot less experience as a starter than the other two, esp. Pelfrey.
Isn’t Hughes just cutter, 4 seamer, change, and hook? Didnt think he had a slider
Pelfrey pitches in a huge ballpark against national league teams. You cant even compare him to Hughes. Vazquez had a 2.87 era pitching in the same divison last year. The only lineup in the national league that is like an american league lineup is the Phillies.
All the teams in the al east have good to great lineup and all the ballparks are hitters park. Hughes is a better pitcher he is younger and has better stuff most people in the baseball would take Hughes over Pelfrey.
Well, that was Sherman………….and yes, that was his implication. Pelfrey is better now, that doesn’t mean he will (or won’t be) in 5 years; judging that based on 1 game is completely asinine.
where are all the updates today? subway series and we have two updates in the last 36 hours?
The only thing the Hughes and Pelfry have in common is they were originally drafted in the same year ’04 and they both play for NY teams.
Other than that they are completely different pitchers with different repertoires Pelfry being primarily a sinkerballer pitch to contact pitcher whereas Hughes is more of your classic power swing and miss type pitcher.
Pelfry is more like Wang than anybody the difference being that he’s more successfully added other pitches to his arsenal to compliment his sinker than Wang had up to the point that he got injured.
Hughes is to cutters as Joba is to 3-2 sliders Very predictable.
Sherman did make a good point overall, though. Pelfrey has developed into a completely reliable pitcher who has become a stopper – I don’t care if he’s doing it in the NL or not. Better stuff does not necessarily equal being a better pitcher.
It’s the overreliance on his cutter that’s killed Hughes these last two starts. It’s not as good as Lester’s at this point ,where he can just throw it ad nauseum, and continue to get hitters out.
He’s got to use his curve and change to finish off hitters and stop those long at bats.
Thanks Doreen…
Before anyone knocks this blog, and todays lack of post have been bad, go check out the other papers. Feinsend hasn’t updated since Fridays game.
I wish Phil would throw a 2- seamer…………
Rconn, exactly – that is at the root of my “concern” about Phil. As someone mentioned elsewhere, he’s taken the pen mentality too far. I have to be fair – Phil is as stubborn as Joba (or overconfident, take your choice)
He threw his slider in the minors and that is the point really because his whole life his slider had been his out pitch until the Yanks taught him the curve in favor of the slider when they raised his arm slot.
But I think that it’s a natural pitch for him and as such he could I’m sure re discover it pretty quickly to add to his weaponry.
Joba’s been throwing that wipeout slider again where it doesn’t matter if it’s predictably hitter’s have to commit because it’s coming in 89-90 looking like a 2 seamer and then it just vanishes on ‘em!
predictable
The pitching around Ike Davis was the most troubling thing of yesterday.
Anything exciting and new today. I read a bit of the blog. There is no info from Chad or Sam. I like day games on the weekends because we seem to be busier at night.
anyone at lohud working today?
YankeesPR
5/23 lineup at Mets: jeter 6, gardner 8, teixeira 3, rodriguez 5, cano 4, swisher 9, cervelli 2, russo 7, sabathia 1
ok…Carpiniello covers the Rangers for lohud and blogs regularly at http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/
lol..his most recent post is “Are you guys mad at me because I’ve been doing the LoHud Yankees blog this weekend?”
really?…”doing the lohud yankees blog” with only 3 post of nothingness? at least put some effort into it.
Face it.
Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain have been Rasnerized by opposing scouts.
Nothing but downhill from here.
Rats I would have had the line up right for a change. Congrats to the winners.
It’s also important to remember re: Hughes, that this is only May. He wasn’t going to unhittable all year at age 24.
Everyone’s stats can look great, or terrible in May.
He was dominant through five starts and was due for a clunker or two. He, or any other pitcher for that matter, are never going to keep a sub 3.00 ERA pitching the majority of their games in the AL East.
He’s far exceeded expectations this year up to this point. He justhas to mix up his pitches more.
SAS,
I dislike the Sunday night game as well. And especially tonight. There is so much I want to watch-Lost, Celebrity Apprentice and Army Wives. My DVR’s will be very busy.
Good to see Russo in the lineup. I’m the first to not get excited about a player based on a handful of at bats, but his approach just seems so solid.
And the one thing he’s shown in the minors is a knack for getting on base, which, as Theo Epstein says, is the most important thing a player can do.
Congratulations to today’s Winners of Guess The Line Up:
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champ809
actually there is a new secret blog that is by invitation only where sam and chad are posting.
we who only see this one didn’t make the cut
X1
Do you get some type of pleasure out of trying to belittle other people?
The people at Lohud do their best. These are tough economic times, especially in the newspaper industry, which is probably why Chad and Sam are off some. The fact that Mr. Carpiniello takes the time at all to post here should be appreciated.
Do you get some type of pleasure out of trying to belittle other people?
The people at Lohud do their best. These are tough economic times, especially in the newspaper industry, which is probably why Chad and Sam are off some. The fact that Mr. Carpiniello takes the time at all to post here should be appreciated.
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Who is Mr. Capuchino?
Cashman & girrardi need too have a closed door & tell these guys to relax & stop pressing,lets go out & beat these crappy teams that we should be beating.
It is all about the pitching.Strange how vazquez starts pitching well,hughes not so well.
cc
burnett
pettitte
vaz
hughes is a nice staff & how about ian kennedy?
Can I just say how much I love Hughes….and can someone please let me know what’s wrong with A- Rod?…what happened to his power?….it’s gone.