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Pregame notes: A move was going to be made

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on May 28, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees Twins BaseballRandy Winn was not caught off guard today. He knew Curtis Granderson was coming off the disabled list, and he knew someone had to come off the roster. Joe Girardi told Winn he was being designated for assignment, and Winn was not surprised.

“Not at all,” he said. “A move was going to have to be made. Curtis was coming back. I played terrible. It fits.”

After building a career as an everyday player, Winn never seemed to find comfort in a bench role, but he said that wasn’t a factor. “I don’t think that’s an excuse,” he said. “I just didn’t play well, period.”

The Yankees chose to dump Winn in favor of Kevin Russo, who emerged as a replacement in left field and can now slide into a super utility role.

“He’s played well and he gives us a ton of versatility,” Girardi said. “When we looked at that, we thought it made sense to keep Roose.”

Here’s Randy Winn talking about what could not have been the best day of his life.

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Jose Lima Wake Baseball• Robinson Cano and Tony Pena went to the wake for Jose Lima in New York today.

• Jorge Posada is not longer wearing a protective boot, but the Yankees want to meet with Dr. Ahmad before deciding when Posada can resume baseball activities. “He does feel better but before we let him do a lot, we want to sit down with Dr. Ahmad and see what the next course of action is,” Girardi said. Posada got a second MRI, but the team doesn’t have those results yet.

• Alfredo Aceves got a second epidural today. “(The first one) didn’t take the way we wanted it to,” Girardi said. “Obviously he’s not where we want him to be, so you give him another.”

• Russo will not be used as a defensive replacement in the outfield. That’s probably the most noticeable thing the Yankees have lost in Winn. “I’m comfortable with Swish out there,” Girardi said.

• Girardi said he might not keep Granderson in the No. 2 spot in the lineup against left-handers, but he didn’t say who might takeover that spot. He did seem to take exception to the idea that Brett Gardner was running less because he was in the No. 2 hole. “Gardy is aggressive wherever he plays and he’s been told to be aggressive,” Girardi said. “But when you have guys that are 1.2 to home, Gardy is not one of those guys that’s just going to run to run. He’s going to be wise about his decisions. He’s not a guy that plays out of control.”

• Girardi considers Granderson to be ready to play every day, but he might give him a game off against one of the lefties they’re facing in the next few days.

• Chad Moeller will not be catching Phil Hughes for the first time, but he said he expects this to be a different version than the Hughes he caught in 2008. “He’s more aggressive now,” Moeller said. “He’s grown up more.”

• Francisco Cervelli was going to take either tonight or tomorrow off, and Girardi decided to give him today because the team got in so late last night (a little before 5 a.m.).

• Same deal with Alex Rodriguez, who was due for a day off and Girardi decided to give him a full day because of the travel last night. Rodriguez acknowledged that he’s felt “not real good” at the plate lately. “Sometimes you stink it up for no reason,” he said. “I’ve just been a little inconsistent, just fighting it a little bit.”

• As expected, it was awesome to see Shelley Duncan, who nearly knocked me down. Duncan got his World Series ring in the mail, and said he feels like he fits in better with his father and brother, each of whom already had one. “I love these fans here,” Duncan said. “They’re the best. I truly mean it.”

Associated Press photos of Russo and Cano.

 
 

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54 Responses to “Pregame notes: A move was going to be made”

  1. 1421: The Year China Discovered America May 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Hughes better be ready to pitch a perfect game if he wants to have a chance of winning.

  2. vblade May 28th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Pray tell, how many runs have the Yankees scored in Hughes’ past four or five starts despite him “needing to pitch a perfect game” in each one of them?

  3. z May 28th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    ‘Roose’

    Got it. Add that one to the list.

  4. I Collect Brett Gardner Cards May 28th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    there will be moves.

    epidurals suck.

    i feel bad for winn now.

    a-rod will PH and come through.

    the game will be close, hence the A-Rod PH.

    Welcome Russo, officially

  5. RalphieD (OPPC) May 28th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    everytime hughes pitches people say he needs to throw a shut out to win….its getting old

  6. z May 28th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Remember when Joe G. did YES games? I liked his insight, but it grew tough watching the Yanks play the Red Sox.

    Instead of Mike Lowell, it was always “Mikey” this, or “Mikey” that. If the Yanks had kept Lowell instead of trading him for Ed Yarnall, I wouldn’t have minded.

    Just don’t use pet names on Red Sox players — that’s my rule.

  7. Yankee Trader May 28th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Chad-
    Aceves can get up to 3 epidural steroid injections. If he doesn’t improve dramatically after this epidural and a possible third, then it’s likely surgery!

  8. Mike_Boston May 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Didn’t realize Duncan got a ring too. Is it because he played in those handful of games? I always liked his bat, bet he gets a few hits tonight.

  9. 1421: The Year China Discovered America May 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    At least Granderson is not facing a lefty on his first game back.

  10. Jeret May 28th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    I know I said Hughes needed to pitch a shut out everytime, but I mean it this time. This is by far the worst lineup he has behind him all year.

  11. XLJ May 28th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Swisher fielding is underrated. He is a solid fielder he doesn’t need Winn to play late innings for him, that is not an upgrade. Winn couldn’t even catch a routine flyball that a little leaguer would catch in the mets series.

  12. z May 28th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Possible HR call for Sterling:

    “Roose is on the loose”

  13. Rich in NJ May 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    I had a hunch that Winn would be DFA’d when he didn’t come in for RF defense in the Twins series.

    That’s kind of cool that every Duncan has a ring.

  14. gayle May 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    I think the improvement that Swisher hs made in the field especially his throwing (he worked with Eiland last year) shows a lot about him as a player not worried about defense right now for him.

  15. sunny615 May 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Good luck Winn. I hope you find a better spot soon. Hard to argue with the argument tho – Roose definitely showed he can fill the role better than Winn – small sample size, but it was definitely a good surprise.

  16. Jerkface May 28th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    He may not have produced as hoped on the field, but you have NO IDEA AT ALL what he did or didn’t do in that clubhouse and have no right to speak of that part of his tenure here. I’ll give you that he was a disappointment on the field. That is all.

    Neither do you know what impact he had in the clubhouse. I know from the reaction shots on the bench that he didn’t really seem to get too ‘up’ for the other guys successes. And what guys say in the media might not be a true representation of the impact anyone has in the clubhouse.

    I won’t dispute that Randy Winn appears ‘nice’, but that doesn’t mean he is going to missed, or that some VITAL COMPONENT of the clubhouse is missing. He is a bench player who has NEVER PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES. If the team is now ‘missing something’ that they needed, then the Yankees were already in trouble.

    Its not like the Mariners losing Ken Griffey, who allegedly helped Ichiro open up.

  17. Mark May 28th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Jerk,

    Exactly right. I am not going to miss his emotionless expressions.

  18. Random Name Generator May 28th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Nice guy or not – keep in touch with yourself, Randy.

  19. Rick May 28th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Props to Nick Swisher for taking it on his own last year in seeking a better grip for his outfield throws from Dave Eiland. Gone are the rainbow throws.
    It makes one wonder why Damon didn’t do likewise at some point in his career or he just resigned to the fact that he’d always have a noodle arm.
    Swisher is also a willing listener to the advice of Kevin Long.

  20. jake May 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Can I ask why Shelley Duncan got a World Series ring????

  21. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Chad -

    “Dump?”

    Randy Winn is not garbage, he did not get dumped. :(

  22. I Collect Brett Gardner Cards May 28th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    goodbye Randy, We’ll send you your ring in april.

  23. XLJ May 28th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    jake May 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    Can I ask why Shelley Duncan got a World Series ring????

    ——————-

    Same reason Nady and Edwar got rings. I think everyone who was on the roster last year throughout the season got a ring.

  24. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    Reaction shots on the bench, jerkface??? Come on. You don’t know him. So, maybe he’s the quiet type? Doesn’t mean he’s not supportive. Doesn’t mean he’s not a good teammate. Doens’t mean he didn’t love every win..

    Perhaps he was disappointed in himself?

    Whatever – I’m not going there – I don’t know him either. All I’m saying is you have no authority to speak about such things with such an air of absolute knowledge.

  25. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Jerkface -

    He may or may not be missed. Neither one of us can speak to that. That’s all I’m saying.

  26. CUZ May 28th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    RIP Gary Coleman

  27. CR9 May 28th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Jerkface

    To say Randy did not care is ludicrous. Bottom Line. His parting words today speak to his character and class, and to how much he cared about helping the Yankees win ballgames.

  28. ron May 28th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    With duncan is it if you are on the 40 man for a day you get a ring??

  29. Jerkface May 28th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Reaction shots on the bench, jerkface??? Come on. You don’t know him. So, maybe he’s the quiet type? Doesn’t mean he’s not supportive. Doesn’t mean he’s not a good teammate. Doens’t mean he didn’t love every win..

    He could be a great teammate, but I doubt his leaving will upset any clubhouse balance. The way you phrased the statement I replied to is that there might be some hidden clubhouse cost to DFAing Winn. Likely, there won’t be.

  30. I Collect Brett Gardner Cards May 28th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    chill peeps, chill.
    there doesnt have to be arguments here every 30 seconds.

  31. Jerkface May 28th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    And he might be MISSED, the players might physically MISS HIM as a buddy but it could have zero effect on their play

  32. Icebird753 May 28th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Can’t believe they released Winn, such a class act. They should really trade for a good steady bat off the bench

  33. Mark in Tampa May 28th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    “To say Randy did not care is ludicrous. Bottom Line. His parting words today speak to his character and class, and to how much he cared about helping the Yankees win ballgames.”

    You say that now, but I can’t wait to see what you say when Boston signs him to take the place of the re-DLed Ellsbury. :)

  34. Sado May 28th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    For me Fausto Carmona will always be “the guy who doesn’t mind pitching with a thousand little bugs flying around his head”

  35. Tom in NJ May 28th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    :neutral: = Randy Winn on the bench?

  36. I Collect Brett Gardner Cards May 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    or does there?
    Theres a 100 thoughts and observations being bandied about in here, mostly they get ignored so people can fight and call each other out.

    would u guys talk that way to each other in person?
    if not, then dont do it here.

  37. Jerkface May 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    I never said that Randy Winn did not care.

  38. BART May 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Why such nostalgia for releasing a bad baseball player?

    Were people this testy when Ransom was released? Jose Veras? Morgan Ensberg?

    Bad players get released all the time. Don’t have to shower them with praise on their way out every time. Just because they are a nice guy, doesn’t mean we can’t critique what we saw (i.e. lack of emotion) and cite that as reasons we are happy to see them go.

    He’s made $20 million in his career or more. He’ll live.

  39. Random Name Generator May 28th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    For anyone thinking of the Yanks trading for Joakim Soria, ask yourself this:

    If you were the Royals, why would a trade a guy signed to a contract like this?:

    “The deal calls for salaries of $1 million in 2009, $3 million in 2010 and $4 million in 2011, he said. The base salaries for the option years are $6 million in 2012, $8 million in 2013 and $8.75 million in 2014.”

    Yeah, something tells me the Royals are going to pick up those options.

  40. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Jerkface -

    No, I only know that I’ve read he’s a “good clubhouse guy.” I don’t think he’ll be missed in the sense that a player who’d been with the team for a while would be missed. But it rankles me when anyone talks about traits of a person they don’t know based on what they observe through a television screen.

    It’s baseball, it happens all the time and teams and teammates move on. You know me by now, don’t you? I have this “thing” about treating ballplayers as if they’re people. ;)

  41. CR9 May 28th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Mark in Tampa

    You make an excellent point, but I really do not think I could dislike Winn even if he were on the Sox. He is such a classy person.

  42. I Collect Brett Gardner Cards May 28th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    in any event i was thinking bout it last night during a discussion on here….

    DH next year, why not Posada?

    Montero if ready can catch.

    they can flip flop between positions as needed.

  43. briee May 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    anyone see nick swishers engaged? :)

  44. Yanks CA May 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    It’s not like this guy got laid off and has to put food on the table. He has made more money in his life than we would in 10 lives. Let’s not go overboard here. He goes back to his California mansion and enjoy his millions. He isin’t some guy to feel sorry for.

  45. Jerkface May 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Well if you knew me, you’d know that it rankles me when posters attribute mystical properties to players to paint a move as a negative. Logically, rationally, it makes sense that in the clubhouse getting rid of Winn is at most a neutral move. He just wasn’t on the team that long.

    And being a ‘good clubhouse guy’ can mean as much as ‘he goes about his business and doesn’t cause trouble’. It doesn’t mean he was mentoring Gardner or something.

    Thats why I have to fire back if someone is suggesting that somehow DFAing Winn is going to cause clubhouse strife.

    I’d bet a million bucks it doesnt matter.

  46. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    BART -

    I always feel bad when players are released (except if they were nasty people). It’s just a sad day for them. Can’t help it. By next week, I’m sure it’ll be Randy Who? But you enter the season with hope; heck some video MLB game had Randy Winn pencilled in to be the starting leftfielder for the Yankees this season. He’s had a better career than his short stay with the Yankees would suggest. I feel bad for him that it didn’t work out. But I’m not all sentimental or anything. Tomorrow is another day. And I make myself move on. Because baseball is a business, bottom line.

  47. CR9 May 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Swishy is engaged? To Joanna Garcia? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. Icebird753 May 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    wow, didnt know coleman died…his cameo in “Divorce Court” was great..

  49. Mark in Tampa May 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    “I really do not think I could dislike Winn even if he were on the Sox. He is such a classy person.”

    Personally, I think his @.200 Avg and his glove that has an aversion to horsehide would be a great addition to the sox.

  50. JM May 28th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Randy Winn will land somewhere. He really does seem like a nice guy but he played terribly here. It is time to give Russo a chance.

  51. Mark in Tampa May 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    “The deal calls for salaries of $1 million in 2009, $3 million in 2010 and $4 million in 2011, he said. The base salaries for the option years are $6 million in 2012, $8 million in 2013 and $8.75 million in 2014.”

    For Soria’s sake, I hope those are player options, but I’ll bet they are team only. I would love to be paid like that, of course, but in relative terms, he is getting taken to the cleaners by the Royals. Unless he gets hurt or falls way off.

  52. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    jerkface -

    I wasn’t trying to say that DFA-ing Winn would cause clubhouse strife. Didn’t even enter my mind. I know it’s the move they were bound to make. As Winn himself saw, the writing was on the wall. It’s not a surprise to anyone. But my point was really only to say it’s not necessary at all to talk about his demeanor or presence or anything of that sort, because the truth of the matter is we don’t really KNOW that stuff. Confine it to the performance on the field, because in this case, it speaks for itself. Randy Winn didn’t get the job done. When Grandy went down he had an opportunity and couldn’t capitalize. That’s really all it’s about.

  53. Sado May 28th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Early evidence of Winn’s apparent state of indifference?

    Notice all the eyes are on the scoreboard. And Winn’s? His mind is clearly elsewhere. Sourdough bread perhaps?

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-.....021632.JPG

  54. MTS May 28th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Sado says:
    May 28, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    Early evidence of Winn’s apparent state of indifference?

    Notice all the eyes are on the scoreboard. And Winn’s? His mind is clearly elsewhere. Sourdough bread perhaps?

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-…..021632.JPG
    ______________________________
    Good one.


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