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Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Today in the Journal News on May 28, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees Twins BaseballDown to my last 50 minutes in Minneapolis. Gate G3 is my flight to LaGuardia. Gate G1 is a flight to Newark. In between is Gate G2, a flight to Los Angeles. It seems out of place.

The Yankees are already home, hoping the upcoming schedule will provide some relief from what has been a rocky past two weeks. In theory, the schedule is getting easier, beginning with four-game series against last-place Cleveland.

“Every team can beat you,” Joe Girardi said. “That’s just baseball. It all starts with your pitchers and how your pitchers are throwing.”

The Yankees pitchers didn’t throw especially well last night. Javier Vazquez was knocked around, especially early, and the Yankees lost their series finale against the Twins. It didn’t help that the offense failed to score more than four runs for a sixth straight game.

Help is on the way in the form of Curtis Granderson who played his final rehab game last night in Scranton. The notebook also has items on Jorge Posada, Alfredo Aceves and Girardi playing by the rules.

Associated Press photo of Robinson Cano.

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  1. sunny615 May 28th, 2010 at 7:29 am

    Let’s hope Granderson’s return sparks this offense. Anything at this point would be an improvement.

  2. sunny615 May 28th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Honestly – after this week, I am at a bit of a loss as to where this team stands.

    Obviously, the offense is downright horrible. No clutch hitting… well, no hitting, lots of holes in the lineup and no real consistency. Arod’s power outtage. Tex’s too. Posada on the DL. NJ back to his favorite hospital room.

    The pitching was ineffective last week, but it looks like Pettitte and AJ have righted their issues, still waiting to see CC and Hughes. Javy looks like he’s reverted back to his April self. I’m thinking that finger thing is worse than is being let on. It may not cause discomfort, but I bet either a) he’s thinking about it, or b) it’s affecting his grip somehow (maybe?). The bullpen – I have no idea.

    Drob seems to have turned a corner until he got nailed in the butt – we haven’t seen him since that event so who know if it’s affected him or not.

    Joba is a real mystery to me – I honestly don’t know where that magical 98 mph fastball went from three years ago. Being a pure bullpen guy, I still don’t know why his velocity is sitting at 94 with little movement. Head thing? mechanics?

    Park obviously needed some time in AAA to iron out his mechanics and get his arm strength back. But considering the rest of the bullpen (Ace out, Gaudin, Marte, etc) I can see why they tried to bring him back early hoping he returned to form.

    I guess none of us really understood just how lucky we were last year with the very healthy club all year long (excluding arod’s month out). I am just eagerly waiting for the day that everyone is and stays healthy. Hopefully it will mirror 2009′s second half and the team a-stays healthy and b-goes on a tear.

  3. Billy D May 28th, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Wouldn’t read too much into these past few weeks, Sunny. Injuries have played a pretty big role in what has amounted to a .500 month of May. Some of your concerns are legitimate, in particular the bullpen, but over 162 guys usually end up being what the back of their baseball card says they are, which means the struggling middle of the lineup is probably going to get on a bit of a roll pretty soon.

  4. Yankees_n_More May 28th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    The only people who think Javier Vazquez “regressed” vs. Minny are the ones who don’t know what they’re watching, or who don’t watch.

    He was throwing plenty of the same nothing-on-it crap that floates up and right over the middle of the plate against the Mets, too. The opponent and the ballpark were his only saving graces.

    Last night, were it not for an incrdible play from Teixeira to give Vazquez the first TWO outs of the second, he doesn’t even make it out of that inning.

    He is the same worthless pile of **** he’s been all season long, but the results look better when he faces the A’s in Oakland at night or the Mets (under NL rules) at Citi field.

  5. SJ44 May 28th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Try decaf. Relax.

  6. Mark in Tampa May 28th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    “Joba is a real mystery to me – I honestly don’t know where that magical 98 mph fastball went from three years ago. Being a pure bullpen guy, I still don’t know why his velocity is sitting at 94 with little movement. Head thing? mechanics?”

    Last year when the Yanks moved Joba to the pen for the playoffs, everybody, including the TV idiots on TBS/Fox, said the ‘old Joba’ is back. I don’t know what they were looking at, he went from 91-93 as a starter to 94-95 in the pen. The old Joba was 98-100 with movement in the pen, 94-97 as a starter. I knew at that point that we were unlikely to see the ’07-early ’08 version of Joba ever again.

    Joba is a guy who really thrives on velocity, IMO. He doesn’t throw his slider, at least a hard breaker, for strikes. When he is throwing 96+, however, it doesn’t much matter, the batter has to commit so early. When he is throwing under 95, the batter has time to recognize the slider and hold off. That makes him a 1 pitch pitcher, with that one pitch being an average fastball.

    That said, he should be able to find a way to be successful if he can keep his fastball in the 94-95 range. Whether that means working on the curve or the change more, or learning how to make his fastball move more, he needs to be able to learn pitch with that.

  7. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 8:03 am
    Ah, good morning, my friend GB7. Been looking for a friendly face this morning. I don’t recognize half the people who’ve posted since the middle of the game last night.

    There are two things that crack me up in particular. The first is how “we” do or don’t do this or that. The second is how “they” better do this or that “or else.”

    On the first, how much more time does it really take to type “the team” or “the Yankees?” Last I looked, “we” here on the Lohud do nothing more than watch and critique.

    On the second, “or else” what? You won’t watch anymore? I hope it means you won’t post anymore, but I doubt that.

    No one’s saying there should be dancing in the streets – these are frustrating times for a fan. Everyone want’s their team to win, no one likes when it struggles. It’s a long season, and there’s plenty of time to right the ship.

    Well, I had to say that, but I don’t know why I’m wasting my time – those that know this don’t need to read it, and those that don’t will ignore it anyway.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Morning, Doreen. Hope all is going well in your little corner of The empire. Yeah, I love those threats of what they’d better do, too. What I haven’t figured out is that if they are a “we”, why aren’t they accepting a large part of the blame for these losses. Yeah, I really believe those idiots won;t watch another game. If they did, they’d have no reason to whine about anything. I blame their parents and Dr, Benjamin Spock.

    Have you been tracking the Trenton Thunder? “Our kids” Romine and Laird are really putting up All-Star numbers.

    I’m close to getting away from this site, because it’s becoming a sewer and there seems to be no attempt or desire to stop it. It’s only because of posters like you, Pat M, Randy, pat, SJ, CB, Betsy, Erica, Erin, MTU, the two Rays and a couple of others that make this place bearable. The others aren’t worth crap. Anyway, what’s the weather up there? I know Trenton was suspended last night, so they have a game and a half today.

  8. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    “Have you been tracking the Trenton Thunder? “Our kids” Romine and Laird are really putting up All-Star numbers.

    I’m close to getting away from this site, because it’s becoming a sewer and there seems to be no attempt or desire to stop it. It’s only because of posters like you, Pat M, Randy, pat, SJ, CB, Betsy, Erica, Erin, MTU, the two Rays and a couple of others that make this place bearable. The others aren’t worth crap. Anyway, what’s the weather up there? I know Trenton was suspended last night, so they have a game and a half today.”

    GB7 -

    Only tracking them a little. I’ve been meaning to look at the schedule to get in a game soon, but it’s been unpredictable around here lately. Irritations, nothing major. If Laird is the real deal, where will he play, GB7?

    As far as the weather goes, it’s a gorgeous morning and the Thunder should have no problem getting in their game and a half. Last night there were loud and bright thunder storms – the power was apparently knocked out at Waterfront Park. We lost cable for about 3 seconds. :)

    —-

    Yankees-n-More -

    Do we have to refer to human beings in that manner?

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    sunny615 -

    It’s been a real puzzle, this season. Started off so brilliantly (even if some parts weren’t up to regular snuff), and I think they could have withstood the injuries had Tex and to some extent ARod had been performing even close to what we’ve come to expect. One would reasonably expect that things can only get better. Right? :)

  9. Billy D May 28th, 2010 at 8:46 am

    “He was throwing plenty of the same nothing-on-it crap that floates up and right over the middle of the plate against the Mets, too. The opponent and the ballpark were his only saving graces.”

    Respectfully disagree. His stuff against the Tigers was outstanding and the Mets didn’t hit three balls hard all night. I looks like he’s going to be sort of hit or miss, but I don’t think the guy we saw against Detroit and the Mets was merely a lucky version of the guy we saw last night. He had going on in those games.

  10. SJ44 May 28th, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Good morning GB and Doreen.

    No doubt this place is changing.

    At this point, the game threads are pretty much history.

    Between the trolls, impersonators and children too emotionally out of control from the first pitch to comment logically, it’s a waste of time spending too much time in there.

    The day discussions are still solid……at least until school gets out. Then, we will see if they decay as much as the game threads.

    GB, you just gotta pick your spots in here now.

    When it turns into Moron Central, I just wait until the next day to post. It’s not worth wading through the idiocy to comment.

  11. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Doreen, Laird has improved in all areas every year, but, so far this season, he’s really stepped up in a tough place to hit homers. What he is though is a run producer. As of Wednesday, he led the Eastern League in RBI and 4th highest in all of the minors. Right now, he’s better than average at 3rd and 1st. I think that he can and will be moved to a corner outfield, but, right now, there are few 3rd basemen in the system other than Brad suttle with tampa. They may wait until he gets to scranton, hopefully, later this summer. Perhaps Corbin Joseph or Addison Maruszak will be moved to 3rd base.

  12. sunny615 May 28th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Doreen – that’s what I’m hoping for. Granderson provides some spark. Posada’s return will definitely be a plus as I can see him lighting a fire under these guys. With Tex’s return to norms and Arod finding his HR stroke, I’m hoping that that will bring the offense back to life.

    As for Joba – I am really curious as to where that 98 mph fireballer with movement went. I mean literally, he dropped 5 mph and lost that movement. How do you lose those things? I mean it looks like he’s chucking it as hard as he used to but it looks more like he’s just throwing the ball instead of pitching. Did the Yankees screw up his mechanics?

  13. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    SJ, I’ve stayed away from here the last few nights, because it’s a pig sty. I may drop in for a minute, but, I can’t stand it longer than that. Usually, I stop by to rag on Randy or Ray (sox fan). How’s the nephew doing/ any word on him moving up to AA this summer?

  14. sunny615 May 28th, 2010 at 8:52 am

    For the record, I honestly didn’t expect the Yankees to play .700 ball the entire season, and I understand there will be times when players slump and pitches lose the feel for their pitches, but this past week it seemed like the whole team slumped at the same time.

  15. Yankees_n_More May 28th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Quoting Doreen: “Yankees-n-More – Do we have to refer to human beings in that manner?”

    WE??? Who said anything about “we.” You’re free to refer to Javier Vazquez in any way you choose to, what with this being a free country, and all.

    As far as I’m concerned, Vazquez is something you scrape off the bottom of your shoe with a stick after you suffer the misfortune of stepping in it.

    Try as they might, though, JoeG and Co. can’t hide him on the road forever… They’ve done all kinds of dancing to make that happen so far… But the time is coming… Really looking forward to the pile’s next start in the Bronx.

  16. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Chamberlain’s been hitting 96-97 MPH fairly often, lately. Like Rivera, he had the same bad 3 game stretch. Other than that, he’s been fine and Robertson has been coming around to last year’s success.

  17. MTU (aka GBURL) May 28th, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Everything has an ebb and flow to it.

    Baseball is no different.

    The Yankees have weathered a storm.

    And the Tide is going to come in. Bigtime.

    Tex will hit and A-rod will too. They are both outstanding ballplayers.

    Granderson is back.

    The easy part of the schedule is here at long last.

    It will come together soon and all this negativity about the state of play of the Team will just blow away. It will disappear to nowhere just like from where it came.

    Runs will be scored in bunches and many will wonder why we were ever concerned.

    That is just the way of it. A little more patience is all that is required.

    We are getting back to full strength and the Rotation is a great.

    I hope all of you have a great Memorial day weekend with your loved ones soaking up the joy that can be found there.

    As to myself, I have a date with a couple of wild and beautiful Rivers.

    :)

  18. Crawdaddy May 28th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    SJ,

    Your nephew faced Brackman last night. Can you ask him what does he think of his stuff?

  19. pat May 28th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Doreen

    You were not one of the Negative Nancies I was referring to last night when I asked why people don’t applaud the good and instead only complain about the bad. I decided biting my tongue was just more prudent than following up the comment last night.

    The level of frustration some people have over something they have absolutely no control over and the revelling in negativity confuses me.

  20. Haiku-man May 28th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    With all the team is going through they won the series. Hopefully Phil brings his A game tonight.
    Only AJ has a losing record against the tribe, CC and Andy have winning records. If it’s 3-1 by Tues this is good.

    My only concern is the schedule pace Phil is pitching, being on innings limitation, and not skipping starts here and there, puts him on pace to limit outm a month before the season ends.

    I’m not worried about the Bombers, with all the injuries they’ve had to deal with, and Javier not being solid. They are getting players back, which can only help.

  21. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    MTU, you’re too disgustingly polite and cheerful this morning. Just put a lid on it.

    j/k. How are things on the trail this morning, or, are you not still out west playing prospector?

  22. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    GB7 -

    If Laird continues to produce on AAA level (when he’s moved), they really do need to get him acclimated to outfield work. The ML team is kind of set at 1st and 3rd for a while (understatement of the year!). :)

    sunny615 -

    I’m thinking maybe Joba’s speed was a short-lived thing. Lightening in a bottle. From what I’ve read, he wasn’t always a pitcher, he wasn’t always that fast. Adjustments were made and his velocity went way up. I think he fell back down to earth after the shoulder issue in ’08. When he was starting games before the shoulder injury, he didn’t have the problems (thinking too much on the mound, shaking off the catcher, over-reliance on the slider) aside from the loss of velocity – I mean, he was really really good as a starter before the shoulder injury. There are two choices – let it be and he’ll be a slightly better than average pitcher; or re-build him a la Haliday and see what happens.

    SJ, GB7

    Mornings and early afternoons are the best time to be here. Used to be able to wait until Pat M made his appearances late after the games, but I usually fall asleep by then!

  23. The Real Me May 28th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Yankees-N-More, please feel free to express yourself. This site enough pom-pomers and sycophants as it is.

    You’ll likely have to endure the “wrath” of a few of the crusty old-timers, but once you get past their daily diatribes you’ll find that they are Yankee fans to the core and a wealth of knowledge.

    You just have to be aware that people here are a little on edge — we’ve had a spate of mean-spirited impostor posts lately (not worth discussing).

  24. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    pat -

    I know, but I thought I’d take the opportunity to give Tex his due, since he gets all kinds of grief most of the time! (Not that he’s reading this, mind you. :) )

    I don’t know the definition of being a fan anymore. I thought fans supported their team, through good and bad. Which isn’t to say we don’t all yell at our tv screens from time to time. But if we can share the rants, why is it so hard to share the raves? One person said we shouldn’t applaud the play Tex made because he’s expected to make those plays. O-kay…………..

  25. Guru Man May 28th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    I agree with Mark in Tampa that when Joba was throwing 97+ his slider was devastating because batters couldn’t lay off. When he is throwing 92-93 the batters are not committed as early and take it for a ball. I also agree though at 95 he should be able to get guys out. His curve is a good pitch and if he can learn the change he will be fine. out of the pen, the change would not be used much though so the 3 pitches would be the majority.

    BTW, I had 2 huge issues last night. 1) what was Tex thinking swinging 3-0 with a guy on 1st base and down by 3 runs? He made it even worse when he swung at ball 4??? When you are not locked in you don’t do that; it was a selfish move.

    The 2nd issue was Girardi ensuring the game was lost by letting CHP face Mauer and Morneau and THEN going to Marte to face Thome after two guys were on base. then instead of leaving Marte in to face a righty and Kubel he brought in Gaudin? Why not just bring in Marte to start the inning? That was truly awful and showed Joe was not paying attention yesterday…simply moronic.

  26. Alan Slocum May 28th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Wouldn’t it have been nice if they had sent Joba to Scranton like they should have done to start the season as a starting pitcher. He would be ready now to bring up to replace this bum who can’t pitch in the AL East. The Mets need a starting pitcher. Everyone knows Vazquez is a quality starter in the NL, so lets get over the petty crap about not trading cross-town and send Vazquez where his stuff is sufficient for him to be successful.

  27. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Doreen, I’ve noticed that mid-day is best, also. I saw something about Pat M.’s wife is in the hospital. After that, it’s not worth digging through the garbage. As far as Laird and even Romine, yeah, getting them some outfield time can’t do anything but, help them and the team in the future. Romine will catch, but, getting a break in the outfield keeps his bat in the game and gives him a break. Those two, along with Brewer and Adams can mash a ball.

  28. MTU (aka GBURL) May 28th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    GB-

    My buddy and I start out for Green River this morning.

    We are planning on running 160 miles of the Green and Colorado rivers over 2 days.

    It’s called the “friendship cruise” if you care to look it up.

    One the reasons I post photos is to share the beauty that it is my priviledge to be able to see. It is truly a blessing.

    How can I not be happy and tranquil. It is what surrounds me.

    As we age we should come to know that there is much more to life than just baseball (Heresy, I know) but we hear of GF’s struggles, or most recently Pat M.’s and we come to know what really matters.

    Enjoy your Memorial day with Killer, and the Twins, and rejoice, as I know you will, at the bounty that is yours.

    And by the way, please stick around and don’t eat too much Pizza although copious quantities of beer are allowed. :)

  29. Billy D May 28th, 2010 at 9:13 am

    “The 2nd issue was Girardi ensuring the game was lost by letting CHP face Mauer and Morneau and THEN going to Marte to face Thome after two guys were on base. then instead of leaving Marte in to face a righty and Kubel he brought in Gaudin?”

    Agree that the bullpen use was a little odd last night. Getting beyond why CHP was left to face two very tough lefthanded bats before Marte came on to face Thome, with JJ Hardy on deck, Gaudin has to be instructed to pitch Kubel carefully. To me, Kubel either has to walk or get himself out swinging at a bad pitch. No excuse for giving him anything close to what he got on that 3-2 pitch.

  30. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    Good morning everyone!

    The Yankees come home tonight. I think the return to the Bronx will be good for them.

  31. Mark in Tampa May 28th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    “1) what was Tex thinking swinging 3-0 with a guy on 1st base and down by 3 runs?”

    I don’t think that even a guy like Tex is swinging 3-0 unless he gets the green light from the dugout. So, the question would be on the coaching staff for that. As far as swinging at a bad pitch, that is on him. Problem is, most guys are so unfamiliar with looking to hit 3-0, that they do swing at less than perfect pitches and swing out of their (shoes).

  32. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Yankees-n-More & The Real Me -

    So, anyone who supports the team through it’s losses and tough times is a pom-pom-er or a sycophant?

    I don’t care how poorly a player performs, there’s no reason to debase any human being in that way – certainly not a guy whose worst “crime” is throwing a bad game or games.

    There’s nothing wrong with discussing Javy’s ineffectiveness. But calling him an expletive certainly has no constructive value at all. Certainly you must have more intelligence and creativity than to stoop to base language?

  33. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    MTU, not sure that I’d be able to deal with whitewater rafting being referred to as a “frienship cruise”. Sounds a little Richard Simmonsish to me. LMAO

    You have a great and safe trip, get a lot of pix and post them when you get back. Thanks for the wishes for the holiday. I can eat pizza, but, still can’t drink my fill of beer. I get just enough, though.

  34. blake May 28th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Ill take 2 out of 3 against a tough team on the road anytime. Javy missed spots (though he did hang in there and regroup a bit) and Kubel has decided he’s Babe Ruth against the Yanks. Bad night, turn the page and focus on taking at least 3 of these games at home against the tribe.

  35. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Good Morning GB, SJ & Doreen! I am glad y’all survived the meltdown last night!

  36. five iron from fenway May 28th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    MTU – Did a similar (but longer) trip on the Green River some years ago. Also, did the long Colorado River trip through the Grand Canyon. It is a spectacular part of the Country.
    Big problem on this trip was dropping 2 of 3 to the Mets, not winning 2 of 3 from the Twins.

  37. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    GB7-

    Out of curiousity, what is your fill of beer?

  38. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Ray, if I had any hair, I would have pulled it out.

  39. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:21 am
    GB7-

    Out of curiousity, what is your fill of beer?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    One a day, Erica, as long as I’m not taking nedication.

  40. MTU (aka GBURL) May 28th, 2010 at 9:22 am

    GB-

    I have to be clear here. When I say “run” in this context I mean using a my friend’s boat. We have to go upstream on the Colorado portion, and unless my friend can row like some mad Roman or Greek we would never make it.

    But either way, it still should be an amazing experience, and I will try to post some pics when I get back.

    :)

  41. SJ44 May 28th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    GB and Craw,

    My nephew was selected to the Florida State League All Star Team yesterday. The game will be played June 12 at Space Coast Stadium in Viera, FL.

    He had 2 hits last night and was impressed with Brackman’s stuff. His slider had great tilt last night and was giving everyone a hard time.

    He faced him in college and thought his fastball wasn’t as good as it was in college. However, his slider was much better.

    I’m going to be in Bradenton to watch the next 3 games of the series.

    I’ll try to post my impressions of the Yankee prospects I see over the weekend.

  42. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    ***medication***

    I may take the time away from this board and learn to type and spell.

    Of course, ya’ll would think that I was The Great Impostor if that happens.

  43. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:22 am

    One a day, Erica, as long as I?m not taking nedication.
    ************

    Well, hang in there buddy!

  44. The Real Me May 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    We’re all (well, most of us, anyway) pulling for the same team. We have the rogues like ‘California’ and his/her ilk that post their subversive crap, but for the most part it’s a civil discussion.

    I just meant it’s OK to have diverging opinions, and expressing those doesn’t necessarily make them “garbage”.

    I can’t speak to the expletive usage because that’s not my thing. I don’t attack anyone.

    Once I hit ‘Submit’ I knew my choice of words was a little harsher than I meant. My apologies if you were somehow offended.

  45. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    That’s great, SJ. I had mentioned last week that the coaching staff had told him this year to back off on the max effort fastball, according to the radio broadcasts. It seems to have worked wonders. 5 walks in 38 innings.

  46. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Hi RayVT -

    Limiting the exposure helps. :)

  47. five iron from fenway May 28th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    SJ – I have read elsewhere that Brackman has been told to purposely ease of the velocity the beginning of the season to focus on command and control. So far, this has been effective and his walk rates are way, way down. I think the plan is to ramp up the fastball later in the year.
    How was the curve? That is supposed to be Brackman’s main secondary pitch.
    Thanks in advance for the first hand reports. Joseph, Suttle – still coming back from awful injuries over the last couple of years, and Mesa – starting to get hot, are some good names to follow on the position side.

  48. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    LO! I lost my hair with Billy Ball!! LOL!

  49. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    I like Melky Mesa a lot, but, damned, I wish he’d learn the strike zone. Maruszak and Joseph are hitting well, too. Tou should be able to see Warren and Heyer pitch this weekend, SJ.

  50. blake May 28th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    I usually don’t comment on this sort of stuff but….the game threads (especially if the Yankees are losing) have become just impossible.

    I understand the reasoning against having registration on this site, more comments equal more advertising dollars. However, if this allowed to continue in place of hundreds of loyal readers the blog is going to comprise mainly of 5-10 posters using different screen names talking to themselves…many of which are too young to even buy the products being advertised.

    I’m mentioning this because the game posts used to be my favorite time to interact in the comments section and discuss the Yankees and baseball in general with folks and that’s slowly being taken away….

    END RANT.

  51. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Billy had that affect on a lot of people, Ray….especially George and the umpires.

  52. SJ44 May 28th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    I’m looking forward to seeing Warren, GB. I saw him pitch a lot in college and I was impressed. He really had a clue on what he was doing out there.

    Looking forward to seeing him as a pro.

    That’s good news on Brackman. If he can continue on this track, he is a legitimate high end prospect.

    It just takes longer for guys his size to get their mechanics in order.

    Nothing wrong with his arm and stuff though. When healthy, its dynamic.

    Nobody is looking to supress diverse opinions on here. That’s what makes the blog fun.

    When people can’t control their emotions, or drift into moron central and pollute the place with nonsense, that’s the problem, not presenting differing opinons.

  53. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    I know for one, that I’m too young to get into Stilleto and Lace. Maybe when I’m grown up.

  54. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    I agree Doreen! On game times I tend to just drop in & look and fade away in the background! It is hard to peruse to find anything worthwhile. The Fakes are disconcerting. I look for certain people’s posts, but then discover they aren’t real! LOL! I even find my name there some! I guess I should be flattered to even be included in a Fake’s listing!

  55. JohnC May 28th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Also can’t wait to see Banuelos and Betances get back on the mound.

  56. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    SJ44 May 28th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Great SJ! I am happy for your nephew! We look forward to updates about him & of course the Yankee prospects!

  57. Patrick from CT May 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Last nights game was a bit frustrating to watch. I didn’t get too upset knowing the Yanks had won the first 2 of the series and the Twins are a good team.
    Vazquez had little control of his pitches and when you have a 89mph fastball you need real good control. He’s getting hammered much in the way Moose did in 2007. JV needs to hit his spots like the 2008 version of Moose did because at 89-90 instead of 92-93 on the fastball, he’s in for a tough year.
    The offence should pick up with the return of Granderson and now that Tex has shown some life the last 2 games. Alex seems off, but maybe a day off and some home cooking can snap him out of his funk. Jeter and Cano are now hitting like the 200 hit guys they were last year.
    The roster move for the return of Granderson is going to be interesting but the fact that Russo started last night could be telling. I’m thinking Russo has played well enough that he could now be that fill in RH outfielder moving Thames to the RH DH and Winn off the team.
    I look for the Yankees to get on a roll this weekend and carry it through June…
    I would p

  58. five iron from fenway May 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    JohnC – and Brett Marshall and George Kontos. They should all be back reasonably soon.

  59. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    I’ve only seen Warren in one college game and once this year in Tampa. He and Sean Black in Charleston are impressive. Ramirez is showing his youth and inexperience lately, but, that kid can throw. I’d love to see him and Banelos in the same rotation with Brackman and Black by next year, though, I’d not be surprised to see Warren and Brackman in Tampa by late summer.

  60. The Real Me May 28th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    I think things really got out of hand when a certain poster on here decided to unleash his anti-Boston fanaticism on the board.

    That’s when things really started spiraling out of control. The trolling was always at least borderline civil, but those days seem to be gone.

    Registration is the only way to clean it up. (Not happening anytime soon, I know…)

  61. pat May 28th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Pujols had been homerless and RBI-less since May 15th and took care of both of those things last night. Maybe there’s still hope for the Yankee offense. :wink:

  62. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 28th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    The Real Me -

    Offended would be too strong a word. I’m not offended.

    I think we’re “on the same page” in that there is nothing wrong with talking about what’s going wrong; it would be kind of insane to sit here and think there has been nothing wrong with the Yankees the last 2 weeks or so. It should be just as fair to focus on the positives, though – or at least to allow people who prefer to focus on the positives to do so without being called pollyannas, the same as those who tend to focus on the negative want to be let alone for doing so.

    I just really hate the attitude that arises which makes the players, coaches and managers out to be in some way clueless, or that insinuates they don’t care or aren’t working hard. And I think the discourse suffers when base language is used.

  63. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    SJ, I think that Brackman ends up in the bullpen, perhaps as a closer/setup guy. It seems that he might hold up better. Still too early to decide on him, though. NYYs have a lot of impressive arms in the system.

  64. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Having Granderson back will be huge for this team. I feel a little bad for the guy actually, cause I feel like a lot is riding on his return. Some Yankee fans might throw themselves off the 4 train if he doesnt come back and start blasting balls out of the stadium.

    Realistically, he’ll probably need some time to adjust to playing every day, getting his swings, etc. but I just feel better knowing our outfield won’t continue to resemble the misfit toys.

  65. The Real Me May 28th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Seriously, though, where else are you going to find informed Yankee discussion, tips on how to BBQ squid, pop culture references and improvised humor all in one place?

    Nowhere.

  66. Yankees_n_More May 28th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Man! People really need to start picking up after their dogs!

    I went out to get the paper this morning and stepped in a big steaming pile of Javier Vazquez!

  67. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    pat, there are a lot of power outages around baseball and not a word said about them. Holliday has 5, Mauer only 2, Howard only has 8, Fielder and Braun with 7 and 8. I’m still not concerned about Rodriguez “lack of power” although Marchand hinted yesterday that it could be because he’s finally off of steroids.

  68. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Random thought-

    Robbie Cano is doing one awesome leap frog in the picture above.

  69. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:52 am
    pat, there are a lot of power outages around baseball and not a word said about them. Holliday has 5, Mauer only 2, Howard only has 8, Fielder and Braun with 7 and 8. I?m still not concerned about Rodriguez ?lack of power? although Marchand hinted yesterday that it could be because he?s finally off of steroids.
    **************

    The Media seems to be presenting Mauer with a built in excuse in Target field being very anti-homerun.

    How many times in the last three days did you hear that “Target Field is not a home run park”. If you did a shot each time someone said it, your liver would explode!

  70. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 May 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Yahoo sports reporting Winn will be the likely candidate DFA by Yankees today when Curtis is activated, they cite his .213 batting avg, Yankees and fans know better !!

  71. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Erica, i only brought up Mauer because after last year, everyone crowed about him finally hitting for the power everyone expected. Personally, I don’t think that he’s going to hit for much more power than O’Neill did. Kubel has done a lot of damage in their two wins against NYY this year.

  72. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Do people really think Winn is worse than Thames?

  73. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am
    Erica, i only brought up Mauer because after last year, everyone crowed about him finally hitting for the power everyone expected. Personally, I don?t think that he?s going to hit for much more power than O?Neill did. Kubel has done a lot of damage in their two wins against NYY this year.
    ***********

    Re Kubel: I noticed :cry:

  74. NYY626 May 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Just wanted to say that I’m really excited that Granderson’s coming back tonight ( although I wont be around to watch the game, hopefully I can catch the replay). Last nights game was pretty bad, but i’m still happy after our mini double header on Qednesday ( mainly cause Andy was AWESOME and ive watched the double play/fistpump about 50x)

  75. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    I feel bad for Winn, but I expect if he is indeed DFA’d he will catch on somewhere perhaps even SF again. Nice guy! It is hard to be a slow starter and a journeyman.

  76. NYYROC May 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    It’s not a case of ARod suddenly having warning track power. When he squares it up the ball still goes. He just hasn’t been making much solid contact. Pitches he should hit he’s missing or fouling off. Way too many ground balls. Seems like his timing is just off.

  77. Haiku-man May 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    STL fans were actually entertaining the idea of trading Pujols to get a boat load of prospects. It seems the Fans think he will hold them hostage, when his contract is up. They are disgusted with Holliday’s lack of hitting with RISP. Rumors are also swirling in STL that Holliday and Pujols did/do roids.

  78. GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Feinsand and his unnamed sources. The only ones that seem to be talking about DFAing Winn are board fans. He’s hardly had much opportunity to play. 13 at bats in April. He’s hitting .250 in May in 58 at bats.

  79. gfd May 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Winn will fit in nicely with Houston or Pitsburgh!

  80. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Its at least good to know that no matter what baseball team you are a fan of, you are still most likely driven completely insane by June. Whether its NY or St. Louis.. you gotta love the consistency.

  81. pat May 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    I think Miranda might be the one to get voted out of the borough tonight.

    I think Winn won’t see Sept. 1 in pinstripes but June 1 might be too soon to cut bait.

  82. Jerkface May 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    11% of Winn’s hits in May have been of the infield variety, and I remember these, they were not incredibly tough hard hit balls in the hole. He is getting lucky. Thames provides something substantial with his bat , Winn looks very cooked.

  83. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    pat May 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am
    I think Miranda might be the one to get voted out of the borough tonight.

    I think Winn won?t see Sept. 1 in pinstripes but June 1 might be too soon to cut bait.
    ************
    I agree with this statement

  84. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 May 28th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Pleasantly surprised to read Passan’s article, in Yahoo sports about MLB is going to discipline Joe West, it”s about time.

  85. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Good Morning Erica! Yes, Thames is better because he is fulfilling his role on the team. A RH DH type to hit LHP. He has excelled at it in fact. Winn on the other hand has looked timid in the OF on defense and his bat has been mostly non-existent. Unfortunately, I believe Winn will be DFA’d even though he is much better than he has played to date.

  86. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
    Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Good Morning Erica! Yes, Thames is better because he is fulfilling his role on the team. A RH DH type to hit LHP. He has excelled at it in fact. Winn on the other hand has looked timid in the OF on defense and his bat has been mostly non-existent. Unfortunately, I believe Winn will be DFA?d even though he is much better than he has played to date.
    ************

    In defense of Winn (someone has to defend him), hasn’t he always been an everyday player? I would think its rather difficult to go from every day to like 13 ABs a month

    To be honest with you, neither guy enthralls me. But Winn in the field doesn’t make me cringe like Thames does

  87. Patrick May 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    SJ44, Great news about your nephew making the all-star team. Congrats to him.

    Also it’s nice to hear that Brackman still has good stuff. I’m not surprised that his fastball isn’t as good as a few years ago. It looks like Brackman has finally learned to throw strikes but he must not be throwing good strikes because he has been getting shellacked until very recently.

  88. Tom in NJ May 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    “Do people really think Winn is worse than Thames?”

    I, for one, do, Erica. Winn’s bat is slow and he hasn’t really impressed with his glove. Thames has done what he was called upon to do-mash LHP. With Johnson out Thames’s bat is needed against LHP-As a DH. Under no circumstance should Thames ever play the field.

    I was “pro” Randy Winn when he was signed. But right now, because of the roster crunch, Winn looks like the odd man out, unfortunately.

  89. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    GreenBeret7 May 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    I agree GB! Winn though may be the odd man out. Russo has the appeal of being a hitter who can play some infield and OF. Winn hasn’t had the opportunity IMO to excel and he hasn’t of course. Its a tough decision, but Pena has shown he can’t hit. So Russo could play the hitter’s tole in INF & OF relief & Pena could play late inning INF defense.

  90. Patrick May 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Winn isn’t a worse fielder than Thames but as a complete player he’s worse.

  91. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Patrick-

    Quite a battle we are engaged in this week-

    Neimann came up HUGE for me last night

  92. vey May 28th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Winn will be 36 June 4 th, he’s another long in the tooth athlete, Yankees have enough of those !

  93. Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Tom in NJ May 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am
    ?Do people really think Winn is worse than Thames??

    I, for one, do, Erica. Winn?s bat is slow and he hasn?t really impressed with his glove. Thames has done what he was called upon to do-mash LHP. With Johnson out Thames?s bat is needed against LHP-As a DH. Under no circumstance should Thames ever play the field.

    I was ?pro? Randy Winn when he was signed. But right now, because of the roster crunch, Winn looks like the odd man out, unfortunately.

    ******************

    I was against both Thames and Winn. We don’t need to get into reasons why. It just gets people mad at me

  94. an interested observer May 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    If he is DFA’d, any chance Winn clears waivers and accepts assignment to Scranton?

    If he gets PT @AAA and somehow regains his stroke, he could be a nice insurance policy in case Swish or Gardner goes down.

  95. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    LOL! I agree. But Yankees knew Thames had a stone glove & a big stick. Winn, they thought could give them great defense, speed & a switchhitter who could hit. Unfortunately, (and I mean it), Winn hasn’t really provided anything he was brought in to do.

    The enthrallment left early with Winn. Thames has exceeded expectations. Erica, I like Winn too, in fact I stated (wrongly) that Winn would end up starting in LF.

  96. Tom in NJ May 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Erica, understood ( and I agree).

  97. Patrick May 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Erica,

    Yeah it’s a close one. I was just looking at the scores this morning, I have 52 points sitting on my bench to your 9.5. Once again I made the wrong choice on who to start :(

    Also you have 3 starts left while I only have 2. You probably have this week locked up.

  98. MTU (aka GBURL) May 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    When I return I’m hoping:

    That some of the negativity on the board will be gone.

    That the Yankees will have taken another series from Cleveland.

    That the offense will have awakened from it’s slumber.

    That you all had a healthy and happy Memorial day Holiday.

    :)

  99. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    I think the Yankees are impressed with Russo and his composure. He has looked good even in LF. (A few missteps, but a seemingly quick learner.) His upside is very good as an utility guy in 2010 for the Yankees. He is a better version now of Hairston IMO. Add to that that Collin Curtis has been impressive in AAA (AFL & ST) and Winn seems less necessary.

  100. RayVT May 28th, 2010 at 10:31 am

    Erica in NY May 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    I could never get mad at you, especially over an opinion. In fact when people disagree with me I learn more. (I found out early in life I didn’t have all the right answers!! LOL!)

  101. Haiku-man May 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    That’s the thing about the Hotstove, the GM’s are playing the game on paper against each other, that sometimes becomes a nightmare on the field. I’t still too early to say who made the best moves yet.

  102. five iron from fenway May 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Patrick – Re Brackman. He also had a cut on his finger early in the season which probably contributed to the wildness. Since he has been back he is much better.

  103. Tom in NJ May 28th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    :arrow:

  104. Patrick from CT May 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am

    I like Miranda as the LH DH and backup 1B. He is filling Nick Johnson’s shoes.
    Markus Thames was brought in to be a RH option in the OF and for pinch hitting/DH. He stinks in the OF and NJ is out so he becomes a RH DH and RH pintch hitter.
    Randy Winn was brought here as a backup plan if Brett Gardner didn’t prove to be an every day player or to fill in if someone got hurt. Gardner has played great, but Granderson got hurt. Winn got pleanty of playing time the last 4-5 week but has not been vary good.
    Enter Russo to play some OF because Winn didn’t get the job done.
    I guess the 3 roster move choices are Russo or Miranda back to AAA and DFA Winn. The move I would make is Winn DFA.
    Russo can be the RH out field option now that Thames can get at bats at DH and he can also play 3B when Alex needs a blow. I think Miranda stays until NJ comes back as I stated above.

  105. Guru Man May 28th, 2010 at 10:53 am

    The Yanks should keep Russo as a platoon against lefties (Remember Granderson can’t hit lefties) and Thames and Miranda should take over the DH role. I never understood the Winn signing and said it at the time. I also said I would rather the Yanks have kept Hoffman because he at least had upside over Winn. I predicted Winn would be gone in the 2nd half of the year…it is just earlier than I expected.

  106. Guru Man May 28th, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Russo can also backup the infield positions when a lefty is on the mound. Pena is a solid guy against a righty, but should not see the field against lefties

  107. petehasabrickbetwnhisears May 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    There is NO chance Russo is going to start “platooning” with Curtis Granderson, nor should he.

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