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Postgame notes: Sabathia’s struggles continue

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on May 29, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Joba Chamberlain took the blame for today’s loss, but CC Sabathia wasn’t exactly happy with his performance either. Through the first three innings he seemed to have nearly unhittable stuff, but in the fourth, fifth and sixth he allowed five runs on six hits and two walks.

“I felt like I kept (the Indians) in the game,” he said. “Every time we scored a couple of runs I would give up a run or two and keep them in the game. We scored 11 runs or 10 runs today while I was up there. I should have just been able to shut them down and keep the game under control.”

Sabathia hasn’t won since May 3 and he’s allowed at least five runs in three of his past four starts.

“Today the stuff was there, against the Mets the stuff was there,” he said. “It’s just bad locations and not being able to make a pitch when I need to.”

Sabathia said the lengthy delay during the third inning — when David Huff was hit by the line drive — was not the cause of his struggles, but clearly something changed after that third inning. He simply looked like a different pitcher.

“CC rolled through the first three innings and it seemed like after that he got out of his rhythm,” Joe Girardi said. “I don’t know if it’s the situation where we have the long bottom of the third when the pitcher gets hit, but he lost his rhythm.”

Here’s Girardi’s postgame session with the media.

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Indians Yankees Baseball• Not the most encouraging stat for the Yankees: After that 21-8 start, the Yankees have gone 8-12 in their past 20 games. “We got off to a great start and we’ve kind of treaded water since then,” Girardi said. “It’s frustrating for us. We expect to win every day.”

• Dave Robertson said the pain in his lower back was directly above the spot where Joe Mauer hit him with a line drive on Wednesday. He didn’t feel it in the bullpen, but he started to feel it on the pitch that hit Trevor Crowe. “It just tensed up a little bit and I couldn’t finish a pitch out there,” he said. Robertson got some ice on it and said he’s not worried about any long-term impact. Robertson had not allowed a run in his past seven outings.

• Curtis Granderson said he did not feel sore after playing in last night’s game and he expects to play tomorrow. He showed up at the park ready to play today. “I was ready to go,” he said.

• Sabathia said the communications between him and Francisco Cervelli had nothing to do with disagreement over pitches. “That was just a sign thing,” he said. “Just missing signs.” It certainly seemed to be more than that, but Sabathia said it was a non-issue.

• Indians catcher Lou Marson said Huff was not talking when he got to the mound, but Huff was able to talk to the training staff. “It happened so quick,” Marson said. “He hit it so hard, by the time the ball was in right field, he was laying there.”

• Huff was back at Yankee Stadium after the game, but he did not talk to reporters. Sabathia spent a long time in the Indians organization, but he didn’t know Huff.

• Two more Sabathia notes: He did not allow a home run, breaking a career-long streak of seven games with one. He is also winless in his past five starts, his longest streak as a Yankee.

• Robinson Cano extended his hitting streak to 12 games, which passed Brett Gardner and Derek Jeter for the Yankees longest hitting streak of the season.

• Alex Rodriguez had gone seven straight games without an RBI, and Mark Teixeira had gone 10 straight without an RBI. Both streaks ended today.

• Jeter hit his 449th career double, tying Bernie Williams for second place on the all-time franchise list behind Lou Gehrig (534). According to Elias, Jeter has more runs (1,602) and hits (2,807) within 15 years of his debut than any other player in Major League history.

Associated Press photos of Sabathia and Robertson with trainer Steve Donohue

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420 Responses to “Postgame notes: Sabathia’s struggles continue”

  1. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    i don’t know about that . he only had 828 plate appearances in five years.

    that’s really low. not even 200 a year.

    i don’t have a clue what it means, but something doesn’t seem right there.

    I know you get an idea in your head and then like to push that agenda for all its worth. But think about what you said. What the heck does plate appearances have to do with catching? Cervelli, as a prospect, was an all defense light bat prospect. He caught 89 games in A ball. By which time reports were he was basically major league proficient as a catcher. He did not DH one game. He then had his wrist broken and was out for almost all of 2008. He came back and caught some for trenton. He then caught 80% of SWB’s games until he got called up because Posada and molina were both injured in 2009.

    The reason it doesn’t seem right is because you aren’t thinking about it correctly.

    Austin Romine caught less games than Cervelli in A ball, something to worry about? Jesus Montero even less games.

    Seriously, no issue there.

    Its one thing to have an opinion about Cervelli’s enthusiasm, its another to try and foist that opinion on the minor league organizations/yankees insinuating that they kept him on the bench because of it.

  2. MiM May 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    The problem with Joba is simple – he is just too fat. He can’t sustain velocity and whenever he gets into a little bit of trouble and goes into labor, he always implodes because he is out of shape and doesn’t have stamina to throw extra pitches

  3. nat May 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    cc needs to lay off the burgers and get back to pitching

  4. Carl May 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Anyone hear about Kendry Morales?

  5. Carl May 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....;mode=wrap

    He might have torn his ACL after hitting a walk of grand slam :(

  6. Al May 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Worst loss of my career. Even eclipses the Tuesday Boston game considering how bad the team we lost to was.

  7. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    “Worst loss of my career”

    Your career?

  8. trisha - 28 is on its way!!! May 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    I meant to mention the same thing that CC said about the problem being with the signs. Now isn’t it convenient to suggest that CC is making that up because it’s something to keep in house? Nothing like setting up convenient checkmates in order to makeyourself always look right Randy.

  9. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Career as a couch potato?

  10. David (In Seattle) May 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    At this point I’d rather see Brian Brunney back in pinstripes than rely on Joba

  11. D-Man May 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Should have never gotten rid of Phil Coke. He is 10x better than anyone we have in the pen.

    He saved our bacon plenty of times last year before Hughes moved to the pen

  12. Gary May 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Bruney is actually better than Joba.

    Also is in much better shape.

  13. RMS May 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    “At this point I’d rather see Brian Brunney back in pinstripes than rely on Joba”

    Hell no.

  14. joe May 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Maybe he means of his betting career

  15. pat May 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Doc Halladay is working on something special. Live look ins on mlb network.

  16. CB May 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    (repost):

    #

    Very difficult game. There’s not two ways about it. It was awful.

    With a game like this no one person can lose it – the lead is just too large. What’s required is a perfect storm of incompetence by the players supported by curious managing. And that’s what we saw.

    First and foremost, the reason why the yankees lost – by far the biggest reason – was CC Sabathia was just plain awful.

    He was awful from inning one. Don’t get fooled by the results. He was making poor quality pitches for the entire game. He didn’t have any life on the ball. And his location was horrible. I can’t remember a game where his slider location was this bad. He simply wasn’t finishing off his pitches – his slider in particular. He wasn’t getting through the ball. His slider is usually a 70 pitch and today it was a 40 pitch. He left it out over the plate to right handed hitters over and over and over. The entire purpose of throwing that slider to right handed hitters is to bury it back foot. He didn’t get close.

    I don’t think he had any feeling for his change because he didn’t throw it very much. Usually if his slider isn’t great he goes heavy to change to righties. But that didn’t happen.

    Finally his fastball was listless. He looked like he may have been aiming it some to try to keep it down and it was listless and still poorly located.

    Think about how few swings and misses CC had to today.

    And when you have your ace out there and have that kind of lead – you must win that game. He has to get you through 7 full innings without leaking runs. That was a demoralized team CC and CC gave them breath. Terrible job.

    With Joba – it’s sort of stunning. I don’t know if I’ve seen a pitcher whose mechanics are so hot and cold. Joba’s mechanics are awful. When AJ loses his mechanics you can see why. With Joba it’s not just that he’s off on something – he’s a completely different pitcher. He literally turns into a AA pitcher.

    And for so long people have been arguing that Joba’s true nature is to be a reliever and his role was the problem.

    But his role was never the problem. He lost the ability to throw the ball. Until he gets that back he is going to be wildly inconsistent. The question is how do you fix that while still allowing the team to win this year?

    It was reasonable to see if throwing him out of the pen would allow him to simplify things out on the mound and focus his mechanics. But he’s still throwing the ball awfully. He literally just doesn’t throw the ball well anymore on a consistent basis. It’s just so ugly to watch the ball come out of his hand.

    I’m trying to think of another pitcher who reminds me of what Joba looks like this year?

    And the best comparison I can come up with for Joba the reliever 2010 and his wild fluctuations in performance are Joba the starter 2009.

  17. CB May 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    (repost):

    One other thing I wanted to say –

    While today’s loss was primarily a function of CC’s performance I completely understand the focus on Joba. With CC it’s just his mechanics and he’ll lock those down and then turn into a wall where he dominates over and over. We’ve see this before with him. His arm looks good so you don’t worry about this being a long term problem.

    With Joba – outside of today – he presents a much bigger, mission critical organizational problem.

    I have no idea if he’s going to figure it out or become more consistent. We’ve seen no evidence of it since he walked off the mound in 2008.

    The theory of his struggles and lack of velocity being a function of him gaining shoulder strength from the tendinitis in 2008 doesn’t look particularly promising either. He’s not getting better.

    He’s throwing very similarly to how he was last year only a tick or two harder.

    His mechanics are truly horrible.

  18. blake May 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    The Good: The bats appear to be waking up.

    The Bad : You score 11 runs with your ace on the mound and don’t win the game. Can’t happen.

    The Ugly : Joba. I like Joba and I’m a supporter of his. That said, you can’t keep running him out there like this with absolutely no clue what he’s going to do and if you do throw him you have to have a quicker hook.

    One game hes great , the next its a total mess. CB’s post from the previous thread is dead on…its not the role…never has been. He can’t repeat his delivery and that is the same no matter if he’s starting or relieving. Its probably actually more of a problem as a set up guy because he affecting more games. Give me a mediocre consistent pitcher any day over someone who is dominant one outing and can’t get an out the next. I think its getting close to time to send him down and start over from the ground up.

  19. SAS May 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    At the end of the last post I said that the team needs a nutritionist.

  20. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    austin romine got 917 at bats in his last two years alone , and that’s by age twenty.

    that’s more than cervelli got in 5 years in the minors and though age 23.

    those are the facts.

    Cervelli played half the games in his short season debut. He then caught 89 games in A ball and did not DH at all. Then he got injured for 90% of a season. Then he got called up to the big leagues.

    You’re being obtuse. Romine played in 104 games at Charleston, 50 of them were at a position other than catcher. Then in Tampa, he played in 120 games and only caught in 80 of them.

    Cervelli did not get any consideration to pickup ABs at DH.

    He averaged more than 4 PA per game played. He just didn’t play in as many games as other guys because of: Injury, he only caught.

    Do you understand what I am saying?

  21. CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    MiM

    Don’t overlook THE GUT ON CC he’s way too big!!

  22. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    CB,

    Would you send Joba down to the minors at this point. If so, to AAA or all the way down to completely break him down.

    I agree with the focus on Joba. I just don’t think anyone is worried about CC at all. Of all the guy’s struggling on this team, I am least worried about him.

  23. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Cervelli was thought highly enough to skip low A altogether. He started at A+. And played in about 15 less games than Romine did when he first started in A. And he did all of his catching, Romine did half of his at DH.

    There is just nothing there, yet you are still trying to bark up the tree.

  24. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    The Great: Robinson Cano. He is showing signs of becoming an elite player.

  25. blake May 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    You have to take the label off Joba’s role if you keep him up. He’s one of the relievers, evaluate him quickly when he comes in, if he doesn’t have it (and you can tell right away usually), then get him out of there..

  26. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Joakim Soria please.

  27. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    CB -

    I have to believe that if “we” can see there’s something amiss with Joba, the Yankees see it to.

    I’d love to know what the conversations are, but we never will know. I can understand the idea that working out of the bullpen helped Phil Hughes in ways that pitching in AAA wouldn’t; I understand the thinking that this might help with Joba, as well. At what point do they “throw in the towel” and say, this is a problem that needs more hands-on, in-depth work?

    Or are they satisfied if Joba can be effective 2out of 3 times or whatever? Perhaps they don’t think he’s fixable and will just ride him into the sunset, getting what they can out of him? I can’t bring myself to believe this could be the case. Not the way things are with getting good starting pitching in baseball. Or good relief.

    It’s like they couldn’t decide, or didn’t want to, really, whether they wanted Joba to be a great starter or a great reliever and now they have neither. In both roles, he’s run the gamut from outstanding to above average, to okay, to barely effective, to awful.

    It’s so frustrating.

  28. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Victor Martinez just threw out scotty pods

  29. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    “Joakim Soria please.”

    And if your offer of McAllister and Gardner is turned down?

  30. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    BTW, there are a lot of zeros on the scoreboard for the Marlins in the Phillies game….might wanna check it out. ;)

  31. Gary May 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    I’d rather watch the pen implode and mess the playoffs rather than trading good prospects (Romine, etc.) for Soria

  32. Cameron May 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    I miss Aceves, he might be done for the season though!

  33. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    It is absolutely absurd to attack CC and Joba as being fat. If you want to critique or attack a player’s performance, that’s one thing. To insult these guys and call them every name under the sun is cruel and unnecessary.

  34. lemon May 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Buchholz pitching well again

    Tampa cruising over the White Sox

    Not a good day for us

  35. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    blake,

    I completely agree. I really don’t understand why Joba has a hold on the eighth inning.

    Also, Girardi’s rope on relievers is really perplexing. He will send a guy out there for one batter and even if he looks fantastic he is coming out if the handedness does not match up.

    Joba, Marte, Logan, whoever will go out there and visibly have nothing from their first few pitches yet he just sits there until it is too late.

    It is like once he takes his starter out he has this plan in his head and refuses to deviate from it regardless of how the pitcher looks.

    You can learn a lot more from how a reliever looks on any given night than from what side the hitter is batting from or if it is the magical eighth inning.

  36. hey Kelvin says May 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Doubt halladay will finish it but I really hope so.

  37. Eck May 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    CC is fat, but I can give him a pass just becaiuse he was sooo good last year. I do admit though, he is overrated when judged against the best pitchers in baseball, i.e. Santana. Santana has shut out opponents in 4 straight games.

    Joba is fat, immature, lazy, and doesn’t know how to pitch. He needs to go down to A-Ball.

  38. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    “Doubt halladay will finish it but I really hope so.”

    5 more outs.

  39. Jay May 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Gaudin and Mitre get torched by leftes. Marte is the only one where the hand should not apply.

  40. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    “Joakim Soria please.”

    And if your offer of McAllister and Gardner is turned down?
    *******************

    I dunno Rich but I’m getting desperate. I upped my offer in another thread.

  41. VON Cloepfil May 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    He might have torn his ACL after hitting a walk of grand slam

    —————-

    Exhibit A for why you never see A-Rod w/in 10 ft of the celebration at home plate.

    Morales’ knee injury ranks right up there w/Gus Frerotte’s headbutt of Jack Kent Cooke Stadium.

  42. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Doc perfect through 8

  43. hey Kelvin says May 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    I hope so Blake. Halladay deserves it.

  44. jobba da mutt May 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    While CC was not doing very well in the second half of his outing, he had the Yankees in the game. Joba blew the game.

    The best thing for the club right now is to send Joba back down to earn his spot. He is not an 8th inning guy, and after today he shouldn’t be anything more than mop up for blown games.

    I also wonder if CC doesn’t feel quite as comfortable with Cervelli behind the plate. Cervelli may just not gel with him.

  45. White Towel May 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Giradi brought in his 8th inning man with a 4 run lead and 2 outs. He had to get 1 out without letting 4 runs score. He coudln’t even do that

    Who does Joe go to in the 8th inning? Park? He sucks too. Mitre? That is what it comes down to now?

    There are no answers for the pen. Might as well let Joba sort it out. He has looked the best of the bunch and has had the best number of good outings of the bunch.

  46. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    LGY,

    I don’t understand it either. Its happened a couple of times…its like its Joba’s game to lose and he just goes with it. The loss of Aceves is really hurting.

  47. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Rich, here is me getting more desperate (from a previous thread today),

    For Soria or Marmol?

    Brett Gardner + David Robertson + any one player from this bunch:

    Joba Chamberlain-p
    Manny Banuelos-p
    Jose Ramirez-p
    Zachary McAllister-p
    Brandon Laird-3b
    David Adams-2b
    Slade Heathcott-cf
    Kelvin De Leon-rf
    JR Murphy-c
    Gary Sanchez-c

    OR any 3 player combo with one pitcher and 2 position players from the above bunch.

    (note to Billy D who says the Royals will want Romine: There are 2 catchers on that list!)

  48. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    austin romine got 917 at bats in his last two years alone , and that’s by age twenty.

    that’s more than cervelli got in 5 years in the minors and though age 23.

    those are the facts, jerkface.

  49. Carl May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Come on Roy. Just a great guy. Those Animals in Philly don’t deserve him.

  50. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    ” I upped my offer in another thread.”

    What’s it now?
    ___

    In view of how Halladay pitched against the RS, the NL must really stink.

  51. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    LOL! Just turned on the Lakers game, and saw them get cheated by the referees twice immediately. Ridiculous!

  52. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    “I hope so Blake. Halladay deserves it.”

    I agree, he’s one of my favorites to watch.

  53. trisha - 28 is on its way!!! May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Absolutely agree with CR.

    (back to having my computer taken over by Norton…)

  54. Haiku-man May 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Cano remain a bright spot on this team. I really hope he makes the All Star team, he has earned a place. He seems to be having so much fun, and his plays at 2nd wow.

    AJ doesn’t have a good record against the tribe, so tomorrow could go either way. I hope he’s spot on.

  55. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    austin romine got 917 at bats in his last two years alone , and that’s by age twenty.

    that’s more than cervelli got in 5 years in the minors and though age 23.

    those are the facts, jerkface.

    You’re an old moron sometimes, you know that. Facts also state that Cervelli has caught more games in the minors than austin romine.

  56. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Bret

    Oh. Way too much, imo.

    This team will overcome the pen’s struggles.

  57. pat May 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    “He might have torn his ACL after hitting a walk of grand slam”

    Broken ankle possibly needing surgery is the latest diagnosis.

  58. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    “There is just nothing there, yet you are still trying to bark up the tree.”

    jerkface-

    barking up a tree?

    what kind of sabermetric stat head kind of talk is that?

    oh, i get it you mean a logic tree.

    got ya :)

  59. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Randy,

    Please excuse me. I’m sorry but I don’t mean to interrupt your convo with Jerkface. I missed your point about Romine. Why are you and Jerkface comparing Cervelli and Romine?

  60. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    DUKE Scooooooores!!! To take the lead with 12 seconds left in the Lacrosse National Semifinal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  61. Mike May 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Would Joba be enough to get Soria?

    A straight up swap?

  62. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    “Facts also state that Cervelli has caught more games in the minors than austin romine.”

    give me some numbers

    i’m getting tired of looking things up for you.

  63. CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    A fat baseball player is a bad ball player, they run out of steam too early! The blubber is what’s the problem with performance.

  64. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    “Would Joba be enough to get Soria?”

    I’m thinking no.

  65. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    DUKE WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. the gay Yankee fan May 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Let’s get a base hit, Marlins.

  67. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    Bret

    Oh. Way too much, imo.

    This team will overcome the pen’s struggles.
    *******************

    :lol: I told you I was getting desperate.

    BTW, “Champ” thinks that Soria and Marmol are untouchable and that my new offer falls short. It’s funny how with trade proposals there are always fans who fall on both sides of the deal and will insist that it’s either too far fetched or overpaying. I try to find a happy medium. I actually predicted the pieces of the Granderson trade and some posters attacked me for including Ian Kennedy with Austin Jackson. I knew Cashman would have to undergo some serious pain in acquiring Granderson. I think he’d have to endure the same if he ever landed Joakim Soria or Carlos Marmol. Both are lights out, young, cost controlled closers. If I could get one of them without trading Jesus Montero or Austin Romine, I’d do it.

  68. pistol pete May 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    I left for the lake when it was 9 to 3, got back to see the bullpen imploded especially Joba and we lost to one of the worst teams in baseball 13 to 11. Our bullpen sucks, not one dependable arm other than Rivera. Joba cannot be the 8th inning guy because when he’s bad he impldoes. Relievers cannot have 6 run ERA’s like Joba’s. One out of two successful apperances out of the pen is not acceptable, this must get fixed if the Yankees are to contend. Anyone else but me starting to worry about Tex, he sucked offensively in the playoffs and for 2 mos this year, that’s 3 mos hitting 200 and is unacceptable for a 3 hole hitter in Gotham.

  69. Carl May 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    # CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    A fat baseball player is a bad ball player, they run out of steam too early! The blubber is what’s the problem with performance.

    Sounds like it’s your wife that you’re talking about.

  70. chan ho's runs May 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Halladay stinks against Boston, then decides to throw a perfect game against the Marlins. Thanks a bunch buddy, really useful.

  71. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    one more, come on Roy

  72. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    That was not a strike 3 right there.

  73. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    it looks like cervelli 209 games caught in 5 years

    it looks like romine 166 games in 2 years and this year so far.

    i could be wrong, but that’s what i see.

    it looks like romine catches a lot more each year than cervelli did.

  74. the gay Yankee fan May 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    Base hit, base hit, base hit

  75. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    WOW

  76. Carl May 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    Grats Roy!

  77. pat May 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Congratulations Doc.

  78. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Wow – Halladay got it done. :)

  79. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Congratulations to Roy Halladay. What an accomplishment!

  80. pat May 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    This may be the first time I’ve ever seen Halladay smile.

  81. RMS May 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Congrats to Halladay!

  82. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    What a class act he is!

  83. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    He didnt even go nuts or anything. It was like it was just business as usual.

  84. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Randy,

    Do you think Romine could possibly be ready to start at catcher next year with Posada the DH? I like your idea about extending the career of Jorge by resting him at DH and allowing him to focus on his swing. I think his bat is far from finished.

  85. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Good for Roy.

    Hopefully this overshadows that Braden threw a PG also this season.

    Love to see a guy like Halladay accomplish that.

  86. CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Halladay got win # 7 that’s a real Ace!!

  87. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    The timing is also perfect.

    Use Halladay’s career as an instructive example of a possible way to fix Joba.

  88. hey Kelvin says May 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    27 up 27 down baseball immortality

    Congratulations Roy.

  89. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    ” Why are you and Jerkface comparing Cervelli and Romine?”

    bret the hitman-

    i noticed a while ago that cervelli didn’t have many at bats in the minors.

    i wondered why.

    i still wonder why.

    jerkface doesn’t like wondering. it’s too much like admitting you don’t know everything :)

  90. CC is a fraud is a fraud May 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    begone trollasauras.

  91. the gay Yankee fan May 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Which team has the worse lineup, the Marlins or Indians?

  92. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    “Use Halladay’s career as an instructive example of a possible way to fix Joba.”

    good idea.

    what will the phillies give us for him?

  93. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Pretty awesome…amazing only 20 perfect games in the history of the game.

  94. blake May 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Pretty awesome…amazing only 20 perfect games in the history of the game.

  95. Rich in NJ May 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    “what will the phillies give us for him?”

    Sympathy?

  96. Carl May 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Ok not a torn ACL but a broken leg for Kendry. That sucks.

  97. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Great starting pitching really does mask any issues, problems, holes with a team.

    The Marlins only lost by 1 run in this game, but they really had no chance because Halladay was so good.

    Cliff Lee, come on down ;)

  98. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Randy,

    Ok, I get it. I remember Cashman saying that the reason the team called up Cervelli prematurely is because they were desperate. It sounded like the organization preferred to give Cervelli more AB’s in the minors but they had no choice because Posada and Molina both got hurt. The fact that they ditched Molina in the off season and went to camp thinking the backup job was Cervelli’s to lose did surprise me. They must see something in him.

  99. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    bret the hitman-

    i’ve always liked the idea of dhing posada a lot.

    i do think he’ll walk inti the hall of fame if he dhs for a few years.

    he’s really an amazingly good hitter.

    i don’t know that much about romine, but i liked his classic quiet style of catching when i saw him on tv this spring. i really like montero’s bat from what i’ve seen.

    the cacthing situation will have to play itself out on the field, but i do like the idea of jorge dhing a lot to extend his career. i don’t say he should do it because he’s a bad catcher. i say it because catching will really wear him down at his age.

    it might be better to not do it so much.

  100. CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    I’m as much a fan if not more than you. I don’t drink the kool-aid of deception about poor performance. CC is being paid to be a stopper Ace.) Instead he’s a flop. I speak the truth, that’s not a troll. Sorry yoy an’t handle facts. grow up!!

  101. whoever May 29th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Not all Aces are equal
    —————————-

    Phils score 1 Run – their ace throws perfect game – Phillies win

    NYY score 11 Runs – our ace chokes (again) – Yankees lose

  102. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    CC was fat last year, and the year before, and the year before that. He is missing his spots, and not sharp enough to put hitters away with 2 strikes. It is unfortunate that he is struggling now, while everybody else is struggling, but he will figure it out. Hopefully sooner than later.

  103. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    If the Royals can get a runner home from 3rd with less than 2 out, Clay Buchholz will not get the win.

  104. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I will destroy you, Randy.

    Cervelli got his feet went in the GCL: 24 Games
    Cervelli then got half the games at the NY Penn league: 42 games
    He jumped up from Short season to A+: 89 games caught, no extra games at DH
    Then he got injured
    Then he got brought up to the big leagues

    Officially, he had 1 full season. In which he caught more games than any catching prospect the yankees have.

    Romine –

    Skipped short season, started in Low A: 54 games
    A+: 80 games
    AA: 32 games

    Seems to me that in full season minor league play, cervelli catches more games than Romine.

  105. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    “They must see something in him.”

    brett-

    cervelli has done phenomenal compared to what anyone could have expected.

    that doesn’t mean its going to continue though.

    i don’t love his style of catching.

    his hyper style annoyed me long before he annoyed sabathia.

  106. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Is it okay to laugh at the expense of Morales and the Angels?

  107. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    I hope they drop $15m to Lee

  108. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    “”I will destroy you, Randy.”

    haha.

    you’ll be the first.

  109. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    And nope. Royals could not do it. No trying to foul off pitches like off Phil, CC, Joba, Mariano. Just Swing the bat on 2 strikes and whiff. Take a seat. Buchholz will get the win.

  110. CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    whoever

    THANK YOU, for your truth, of course you’ll be labeled a troll for your honesty.

    CC isn’t an Ace, he just plays one for the Yankees, and steals their money!

  111. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    To repeat: Cervelli has only had 1 full minor league season. He caught the most games of any catching prospect the yankees have had since Posada.

    I wonder why Austin Romine seems to spend 40% of his playing time at DH? I guess the yankees aren’t sold on his catching.

    /randy logic

  112. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    “Phils score 1 Run – their ace throws perfect game – Phillies win

    NYY score 11 Runs – our ace chokes (again) – Yankees lose”

    In his last game, Halladay got the loss while giving up 6 ER in 5 2/3. Not long ago, he gave up 5 ER in a loss to the worse than Cleveland’s offense Giants. It happens to everybody, except Bob Gibson in ’68.

  113. pat May 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Huff feeling well enough to Tweet-

    DHuff11 Everything is good. It was a little scary but I’m out of the hospital now and with my family. Thank you all for you concern and support. i’d like to thank the yankees team doctors, our training for making sure i was ok. i’d also like to thank the NY security staff for taking care of my family, they were amazing. finally, to a-rod, contacting me on his way to the hospital, one class act.

  114. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Randy,

    Would you sell high on Cervelli in a deal for Joakim Soria at the deadline and call up Romine to work with Jorge Posada? I heard the Royals really need a catcher.

  115. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Go David Huff!!!!!!!! What a guy!!!!! Calling the Yankees what they are, CLASS!!!

    Warms my heart!!! Get fully better soon, David!!!!

  116. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    At this point, I wish they had kept Joba as a starter. At least he would be able to lose only one game every 5 days that way. This is ridiculous, the Yankees are about to be 4 1/2 out, if they had even a semi-competent setup man, they would be just 1 1/2 out.

    Joba has cost 3 games all by himself, and back-end bullpen problems can have a cancerous effect on the rest of the team, and the way the game is managed.

  117. Uncle Dick May 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Cervelli wasn’t considered a prize prospect in relation to what the organization thought of Romine and Montero. He was considered a great defensive catcher with suspect offensive abilities. When the demand came for a catcher, you bring up the catcher that can get the job done based on defensive abilities, while allowing the other catching prospects continue to get every day work.

  118. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    i noticed a while ago that cervelli didn’t have many at bats in the minors.

    i wondered why.

    i still wonder why.

    You are getting the answer here. I know old brains don’t work as well as young ones, but seriously. He didn’t get many ABs because he spent 2 of his minor league seasons injured or called up. And 2 of them were short season.

    Not difficult to comprehend.

    I don’t wonder because I know the answer. Cervelli isn’t a hitting prospect, he got no games at DH or other positions.

  119. whoever May 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Mark in Tampa

    You’re right, I am just talking thru frustration.

    CC will get the job done, just a bad day!

  120. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    geez, Kobe is still my man, I wish he can win another one.

  121. Todd May 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    After seeing that tweet from Huff, I am OK with losing the game today.

    They deserved to win after seeing that scary sight.

  122. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    CC is the definition of an Ace. He has had a little rough stretch in May. Get over it. He had a rough stretch last year as well.

    That didn’t stop him from leading a 3-man rotation to the World Series. Because of him and his ability pitch on short rest you didn’t have to see Joba start a game in the playoffs.

  123. Kirk M May 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Buchholz with his 7th win… impressive. In a must win game where he had no margin for error, he outduels Grinke 1-0.

  124. McDonalds Worker May 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    CC and Tex are both going to have down years this year.

    CC’s win total is going to be shot— he might only win 14 games or so. and His HR per 9 and ERA will probably be the highest of his career.

    Tex is on pace for career low numbers as well

    If we lose the WC to Boston, you can point to that as reasons why. Oh, and that loser Joba.

  125. m May 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Did Halladay get his perfect game? If so, congratulations to him. Truly one of the good guys in baseball. Too bad the Phillies were the ones who snagged him. Of course the Jays had to send him out of the division and the league even.

    Perhaps, in light of what just happened, two games juxtapositioned like they were? Could they possibly see the wisdom in Halladaying Joba? :)

  126. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    And the 1-2 pitch by Pap to Guillen was absolute slop in the dirt. NEver looked like a strike. And just swung through like milk and cookies!

    Not for Joba/Phil/CC/Mo

  127. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Perhaps, in light of what just happened, two games juxtapositioned like they were? Could they possibly see the wisdom in Halladaying Joba?

    Should have traded Joba for halladay :)

  128. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    jerkface-

    it looks to me like cervelli has cacught more than 39 games in a season once and that’s when he caught 89 at age 21.

    romine has caught 54 games and 80 games in his first two years.

    he looks like he catches more to me.

    cervelli caught 60 games total for two years at age 19 and 20

    romine caught 134 games total for two years ar age 19 and 20.

    romine has already caught 36 games this year at age 21.

  129. yanks li May 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Now that is what a real ace looks like. CC take notes. And Joba, take notes of Bard tonight. That is how a good pitcher does it. Thats guts. 1-0 game, no margin for error and he locks the door. Not give up 4 runs before recording an out like you did

  130. m May 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    randy l,

    What’s your problem with Cervelli? He’s not my favorite (as previously stated), but he really seems to irk you for some reason.

  131. Jay May 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Has Joba’s value dropped that low that we can’t even get a relief pitcher (albeit a good one) for him?

    Royals won’t take the chance that he morphs into a dominant starter for them? What better are they going to get for Soria? Joba is proven on the ML level.

  132. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Randy, you’re purposefully disregarding league. Of Cervelli’s 3 ‘full time/no injury minor league stints’ he only played once in a full time league.

    Cervelli has caught 200 games in the minors while only playing in 1 full season league

    Romine has caught 166 games in the minors while playing in 3.

    Seems like Cervelli catches more games in full season minor leagues.

  133. m May 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Jerkface,

    Short of trading Hughes, I would have been open to anything. No way the Jays trade Halladay to us. Short of giving up the farm.

  134. Bedminister May 29th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    CR9,

    Watch, when the Indians go to Fenway, they will lose all 4 games and won’t hit in any of them. Those losers (except Huff) only try against us.

    Very frustrating. KC not even showing up tonight.

  135. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Cervelli also skipped Low A, and basically skipped AA.

    Romine had to move from Low A, to A+, to AA.

    It seems like Cervelli was a real fast mover, a better prospect than Romine. Yankees obviously thought very highly of him.

  136. Mike May 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Even a blind man can see that CC and Joba are FAT. Fat and great performance dont go together unless it is a hot dog eating contest. If anyone thinks that Prince Fielder will get a huge deal and or pan out as big as he is getting you are wrong. You just dont go invest that kind of money in someone who does not take care of themselves. They need to be told to slim down period

  137. Backbench May 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Our real ace pitched last night.

  138. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Bad day. On a day we blow a 6 run lead, the Twins, Sox, Rays, Jays all win. At least Detroit has compassion for our plight. Good Ol’ Johnny Boy. ;)

  139. Mexicutioner May 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Chamberlain now 1-3. Should be 1-4 considering MO was charged with the Boston loss.

    How many more games does he need to lose for us before he goes to the minors? How much longer must this experiment last at the ML level before enough is enough? Blowing a 6 run lead to a last place team at home isin’t enough proof?

  140. Backbench May 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Test.

  141. J. Henry Waugh - God Does Not Play Dice, But I Do May 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Maybe the Yankees don’t want to grind Romine down.

    He split time with Montero last season, and Higgie and J.R. Murphy are both in Charleston splitting chores.

    The Yankees know the benefit of having a hitting catcher who isn’t worn down. Posada was an infielder and saved some wear and tear on his body.

    I will take all of them for my league, the Universal Baseball Association.

    How do I have the power to do this? Easy. I am the commissioner.

  142. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    romine has already caught 166 games total in his career to date at age 21 with 2/3 of a season to go.

    cervelli caught 210 games in the minors total though age 23.

    i can see how the aging thing has you concerned.

    your brain isn’t working so good at your young age.

    can you imagine where it’s going to be at 60? :)

  143. Alex May 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    CC is even heavier than last year if you watch him. He has no stamina out there. That said. at least CC battles unlike Slobba, who implodes at the first sign of adversity.

    Joba is no longer one of our 12 best arms. Royce Ring is better than him.

  144. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Bedminister

    The Royals won the first 2 games here. There really is not much more that I could have expected from them.

    I think it has more to do with some type of magic, or Clay Buchholz selling his soul to help the Red Sox. It’s ridiculous. Clay is by far, not unhittable, yet somehow, every team that faces him outside of the Yankees, just goes down foolishly.

    And then, with a chance to take the win away from Clay with an out, their AB was a putrid as none of those ABs against Joba today.

  145. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Bedminister

    What really gets me is that no matter what, we see the best ABs from hitters, even in our wins.

    The Twins played us closely in at least 6 of the 10 games last year, and all 6 games this year.

    They refuse to give in or give up.

    But in their 2 game sweep at the hands of the Sox, they never even stood a chance.

  146. pat May 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Talk about acting like you’ve been there before………

    Halladay following his Perfect Game, went to the weight room and did his usual postgame workout of weights and exercise bicycle before meeting with the media.

  147. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    I’m not concerned about aging, you will die long before I will and as I get up there in years modern medicine will allow me to continue to destroy arguments like yours into perpetuity.

    You’re wrong, you know it, and now you’re trolling. Its admirable, but you’re basically at Trisha’s level of baseball knowledge at the moment.

  148. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    “It seems like Cervelli was a real fast mover, a better prospect than Romine. Yankees obviously thought very highly of him.”

    Not really. Romine was in Tampa for his age 20 season and in Trenton for age 21. Cervelli was a year older in both cases.

  149. CC is a fraud! May 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    mike

    I’m shocked Cashman didn’t provide a personal trainer for both of them this past offseason, and demand they be fit in their contracts.

    Look how fit Robertson looks in the picture above. That gut on CC ,is back problems in the near future.

  150. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Not really. Romine was in Tampa for his age 20 season and in Trenton for age 21. Cervelli was a year older in both cases.

    Cervelli skipped low A, only played in 20 games in AA, and only 20 games in AAA, and is now in the majors. Romine is toiling in AA.

  151. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Only 20 games per level, wow that’s so impressive. Thats better than even Jesus Montero, and now he is in the majors? Amazing.

  152. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    “It seems like Cervelli was a real fast mover, a better prospect than Romine. Yankees obviously thought very highly of him.”

    jerkface-

    your’e losing your mind.

    romine is much more of a prospect in the minors than cervelli was.

    it’s not even close.

  153. UnKnown May 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Heads up to the next impersonator of me, I always have the U and the K capatilized. Trisha I was never calling you out about anything with Nick or whatever. Secondly, Marmol is horribly inconsistent. I am all for Soria if we can possibly make a move there. But once again the Royals don’t want 8 crappy players of ours for Soria. The more players you give doesn’t necessarily mean the deal is fair. Horrible loss today, disgusting.

  154. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    romine is much more of a prospect in the minors than cervelli was.

    Then why is Romine at game 37 in AA without being moved up? Cervelli only had to play 21 games in AA

  155. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    “But in their 2 game sweep at the hands of the Sox, they never even stood a chance.”

    They’ve played 5 times, and the Twins won twice. In Boston, they got outpitched, just like they were in the Yankees games.

  156. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    jerkface-

    keep it between you and me and keep it on baseball.

    i don’t see your numbers making sense.

    romine at his age is much better than cervelli was.

    he’s caught more at his age than cervelli.

    if you go into silly BS, this conversation is over.

  157. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Argh! The reason why Romine is “toiling” away in AA is because he’s being blocked by Jesus! Lord, please, set him free!

  158. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    if you go into silly BS, this conversation is over.

    I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Its pretty obvious that the yankees really favor Cervelli more than Romine, given he only had to spend a combined 40 games in AA and AAA before being made the starting catcher for the New York Yankees.

  159. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Argh! The reason why Romine is “toiling” away in AA is because he’s being blocked by Jesus! Lord, please, set him free!

    No kidding, but you see I have to coax randy to come to a conclusion because he can’t do it himself. He doesn’t seem to understand why Cervelli doesn’t have many minor league at bats. Its because of injury, and the fact that he got called up on May 7th of last year.

  160. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    romine is 21 years old and has hit 26 home runs in a little over two seasons.

    he’s a good defensive catcher.

    he’s the prospect.

  161. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    “Then why is Romine at game 37 in AA without being moved up? Cervelli only had to play 21 games in AA”

    Desperation.

  162. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Cervelli is no longer a prospect. He is a major league baseball player, and a starter for the New York Yankees.

    That makes him a better player than Austin Romine.

  163. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Desperation.

    I didn’t think trenton was that desperate for a catcher!

  164. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Randy,

    Since you’ve obviously lost the point of this argument I’ll give you a freebie.

    What are you trying to argue about Cervelli?

  165. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Romine is the better prospect. But that’s what he is a prospect.

    Cervelli’s in the majors. So, in that sense, he trumps Romine atm.

  166. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    “Its because of injury, and the fact that he got called up on May 7th of last year.”

    It’s also because of injury that he got called up on May 7th last year.

  167. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    It’s also because of injury that he got called up on May 7th last year.

    Yes, that wasn’t really part of the debate. Its obvious the reasons why Cervelli does not have minor league at bats. Do you follow the logic Billy D? He played short season, then 1 full season in the minors, then got injured, then got called up because of injury?

    Is everyone but Randy on the same page with that?

  168. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    “Its pretty obvious that the yankees really favor Cervelli more than Romine, given he only had to spend a combined 40 games in AA and AAA before being made the starting catcher for the New York Yankees.”

    if he keeps ticking off CC he may catch up to romine in minor league experience :)

  169. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Wasn’t there an earlier situation (’08?) where Cervelli would’ve been called up, but he was still coming back from the broken hand?

  170. Erica in NY May 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    It’s also because of injury that he got called up on May 7th last year.

    Yes, that wasn’t really part of the debate. Its obvious the reasons why Cervelli does not have minor league at bats. Do you follow the logic Billy D? He played short season, then 1 full season in the minors, then got injured, then got called up because of injury?

    Is everyone but Randy on the same page with that
    ****************

    I understand completely what you are saying

  171. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Wasn’t there an earlier situation (’08?) where Cervelli would’ve been called up, but he was still coming back from the broken hand?

    Yes, Posada was injured in 08.

    Cervelli was always a major league ready catcher, he didn’t need a lot of minor league games to prove that or work on things like Romine. The Yankees followed the same mentality with pena as they did with Cervelli, “his glove is legit, his bat will be gravy.”

    Turns out Cervelli’s bat is delicious southern gravy.

    Randy thinks its new england clam chowder.

  172. Pat M. May 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Face…..Could it be that Cerevlli was the first and only real Catching prospect in the system ???? Honestly, I think Austin is destined for an outstanding career & not as a backup

  173. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    more like manhattan clam chowder. clearly an inferior soup. :)

  174. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    “Is everyone but Randy on the same page with that?”

    I started ignoring this inane argument about 25 posts ago.

  175. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Jerkface

    I understand completely re: Cervelli.

  176. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    more like manhattan clam chowder. clearly an inferior soup.

    You lived in the south so you should know southern sausage gravy is white and thick and looks a lot like new england clam chowder. Randy, living in such a place, is obviously making a mistake in recognizing Cervelli’s gravy.

  177. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Pshaw. That’s just randy l doing a public service for the blog. Got our minds off Joba, didn’t he? :(

  178. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    “I didn’t think trenton was that desperate for a catcher!”

    Wasn’t Trenton’s desperation. It was the Yankees’. They lost 2 catchers in 3 days and had to bring him up from Trenton. If the Yankees stay healthy at that spot all year, Cervelli probably spends most, if not all, of the season in NJ.

  179. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    the point is cervelli hasn’t caught or played a lot of games in the minors. he did come up without a lot of experience as you said.

    that may mean he’s good because he was able to do that or it might mean he ‘s not that good and came up because of injuries and will revert to the player he was in the minors.

  180. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Lakers up 18 with 2 minutes remaining in the 3rd Quarter!

  181. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Billy D,

    You suggest he might have stayed the whole year at AA. Who was blocking him at AAA that year?

  182. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    “Honestly, I think Austin is destined for an outstanding career & not as a backup”

    pat m-

    you’re disqualified.

    you played too much pro ball to know anything.

  183. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    that may mean he’s good because he was able to do that or it might mean he ’s not that good and came up because of injuries and will revert to the player he was in the minors.

    So what is your final argument then? your point originally was that somehow cervelli was bad because he didn’t play a lot ergo the yankees minor league system didn’t want him to play. We’ve obviously debunked that.

    So now your argument is: “Cervelli may or may not be good’? Are you serious? Way to waste everyones time.

    If Cervelli reverts back to the player he was in the minors he will be a plus defensive catcher with a solid plate approach who will hit for a decent average with no power.

    He is already doing that.

  184. blake May 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Why is the new Karate Kid movie called ” The Karate Kid” when Jackie Chan is teaching Kung Fu in it….should it be the Kung Fu Kid?

  185. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Did you guys see that shot by Kobe? Virtually behind the basket to go up 91-74.

  186. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Kobe is making extraordinary shot after shot here.

  187. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    # blake May 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Why is the new Karate Kid movie called ” The Karate Kid” when Jackie Chan is teaching Kung Fu in it….should it be the Kung Fu Kid?

    good point! This is another stupid mistake from Hollywood.
    Karate is from Korea, Jackie Chan is Chinese, his stuff is Kung Fu.

  188. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    “You suggest he might have stayed the whole year at AA. Who was blocking him at AAA that year?”

    I did say all “most, if not all”. I don’t know who was blocking him. But he spent the latter part of ’08 in Trenton and was sent there to start ’09 in favor of whoever was in SWB at the time.

  189. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    1 more quarter Lakers!!!!!

  190. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    “Why is the new Karate Kid movie called ” The Karate Kid” when Jackie Chan is teaching Kung Fu in it….should it be the Kung Fu Kid?”

    Good point.
    Another question could be-was there really enough redeeming value in the original Karate Kid to warrant a remake?

  191. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    AAA’s catchers in 2008 were our reserve catchers backing up Posada and Molina, Moeller and Stewart

  192. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    The best part of the original is no longer with us. :(

  193. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Poor Pat Morita :(

  194. Erica in NY May 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    At least this one doesn’t have Hilary Swank!

  195. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    What ****** BS!!!! Vujacic did nothing wrong!

  196. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    How stupid is Dragc? Talk trashing when you’re down 15 points is so dumb. Sasha was dumb for following for it, but Dragc deserved to get girly slapped.

  197. blake May 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    I’m thinkin they just aren’t going to be able to replicate the Cobra Kai and Mr. Miyagi….

    Yes Sensei!

  198. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Hilary Swank! LOL! She’s not, but that movie was terrrrrrible!

  199. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    “Poor Pat Morita”

    Oh him.

    I thought m was talking about Ralph Macchio’s career.

  200. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Sweep the Leg!

  201. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    “So what is your final argument then?”

    i never had an argument . i said in the beginning i wondered about cervelli’s lack of plate appearances in the minors.

    wondering seems to be something you don’t do jerkface.

    being the dogmatic stathead you appear to be that’s not surprising.

    some of us like to think about things.

    so you’re down on romine huh?

    interesting.

    i’m with pat m.

    he’s a good looking player.

  202. Erica in NY May 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    “Poor Pat Morita”

    Oh him.

    I thought m was talking about Ralph Macchio’s career.
    *************

    You mean his recurring role on Ugly Betty wasn’t a career revival?

  203. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Why are the Suns getting a Technical free throw??? What a ****** JOKE!

  204. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    randy,

    I would be careful with The Face. You could end up on his “list.”

  205. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    The referees are trying to get them back in this game! Scumbag Dragic and scumbag referees.

  206. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Good Shot Farmar!

  207. blake May 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Cervelli has done a nice job filling in for Posada but Romine is a much better prospect and has more upside because of his offensive ability. Doesn’t mean Cervelli won’t turn out to be a solid big leaguer and that Romine will, just means that Romine has more tools to accomplish it with..

    Wax on Wax off Daniel son.

  208. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    “The referees are trying to get them back in this game! Scumbag Dragic and scumbag referees.”

    Were you this upset when the referees sign, sealed and delivered Game 5 to the Magic the other night?

    I somehow suspect the answer is no. :)

  209. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Nick will think I’m picking on him if I don’t correct you, blake.

    It’s Daniel-san.

  210. blake May 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    “It’s Daniel-san.”

    good call, you are correct.

  211. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    The way I see it, Montero will get every chance to be the starting catcher in 2011 or 12. Cervelli will probably still be the backup. If Romine can be a legit offensive player in the big leagues, I see an Elston Howard type role for him. A little OF, a little 1B until he is needed to catch full time, be the backup b/c they traded Cervelli, or maybe he is traded.

  212. gayle May 29th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Have to say being at the STadium today was one of the most bizarre games I have ever been too. The STadium got its gut kicked in when Huff went down, then everything grinded to a pace of a tortoise race mind boggling.

    Also had to have the dumbest fan in my section today none of the regulars made it for a bad experience, here is hoping Monday is better.

    But here are the photos from today

    http://www.facebook.com/album......144a70f42d

  213. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Randy,

    Why do you want to see Cervelli shoved into a smoldering volcano ?

    Jerkface,

    Why do you want to see Romine struck by a blast of mid-summer lightening?

  214. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Where exactly was there a foul??? That was a foul on Dudley swinging his elbows wildly.

  215. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    “Were you this upset when the referees sign, sealed and delivered Game 5 to the Magic the other night?”

    CR9 can’t answer right now, he/she is too busy hiding from the black helicopters that are after him/her.

  216. pat May 29th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    TylerKepner Tigers announce they will DFA Dontrelle Willis on Sunday. Wow.

  217. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Yeah!! Offensive foul!!!

  218. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    “CR9 can’t answer right now, he/she is too busy hiding from the black helicopters that are after him/her.”

    Yeah. My bad.

  219. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    “Since you’ve obviously lost the point of this argument I’ll give you a freebie.”

    no one has lost anything.

    i wonder about cervelli.

    i have always wondered about cervelli.

    when i see sabathia sending daggers at him and cervelli backing down, i’m wondering again what’s going on.

    you don’t want to think about it don’t.

    what i want to know is what you’re doing on a saturday night arguing with me?

    i’m 60, i’ve got an for excuse for being home on a saturday night?

    you want a freebie.

    step away from the computer and go have some fun

    i can’t ever remember being home on a sat night before i was 40.

    jerkface, tell me what that feels like :)

  220. m May 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    This Marv Albert is getting on my nerves. Every time Phoenix does something good, he makes sounds that would’ve gotten him arrested in another phase of his life. :mad:

  221. Erica in NY May 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    pat May 29th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    TylerKepner Tigers announce they will DFA Dontrelle Willis on Sunday. Wow.
    *************

    Does that put them in the Oswalt market?

  222. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    FTR, I’m high on both Cervelli and Romine at catcher. With Montero, I’m high on his bat mostly. Romine is my favorite of the bunch.

  223. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    “TylerKepner Tigers announce they will DFA Dontrelle Willis on Sunday”

    Can he pitch the 7th or 8th inning? We’ll take him if he can. Big ?? though, since he hasn’t seen those innings in years.

  224. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    I hope I dont see Dragic against the Celtics. He’ll be turning the ball over like a silly bum. He wont be getting in Rondo’s face as he did Vujacic.

  225. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    “I would be careful with The Face. You could end up on his “list.””

    LGY-

    same advice for you.

    “step away from the computer and go have some fun” :)

  226. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    “I would be careful with The Face. You could end up on his “list.””

    LGY-

    same advice for you.

    “step away from the computer and go have some fun” :)

  227. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    Randy,

    LOL. I felt immediately guilty when you poked fun at Jerkface for being in on a Saturday night. My excuse? I’m poor. Never been so penniless in my life so only one way to go from here.

  228. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    gayle,

    Great photos! You got Gardner doing his “Hans & Frans” pose. And that was a very cute photo of Alex & GGBG hip & hip. What where they looking at? And great profile pic!

    Too bad the game ended badly, though. :(

  229. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    Careless with the ball. Kobe, take over NOW!

  230. Mark in Tampa May 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    “when i see sabathia sending daggers at him and cervelli backing down, i’m wondering again what’s going on.”

    It seemed that they had a good working rapport prior to today. I did notice that as well, it was hard not to. Maybe CC was frustrated with himself and took it out on Cervelli, maybe Cervelli just wasn’t thinking the same way as CC and it threw him off his game.

    I do remember thinking early that Cervelli wasn’t quite into the game like he usually is. I figured it was because of that vicious shot he took on the 2nd pitch of the game. But he seemed fully recovered by the 4th when the problems started, so I don’t know what happened there. We’ll see who catches CC next time out.

  231. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    Gayle,

    Those are amazing photographs. Thanks for sharing. :)

  232. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Beautiful offensive rebound and exquisite possession and great shot Fish!!

  233. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    I dont understand! Better shut up Pao before you get a technical.

  234. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    Lamar and Pao just got fouled and NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good off. foul call!!!!!!!!!!!!

  235. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    LeBron question. For those who watch him a lot, does he have a back to the basket game? I always see him driving, but I don’t know that I’ve seen him back down players in the post.

  236. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    “LOL. I felt immediately guilty when you poked fun at Jerkface for being in on a Saturday night”

    bret the hitman-

    jerkface kept fouling off pitches so i had to come up with something to put him away, so i threw him a change up.

    i think jerkface has a sense of humor.

    he’ll get over it.

    but seriously, i think at age 40 i made it a rule to stay in on sunday nights because we went out almost every other night . lived in sarasota on the beach then and there was always something to do.

  237. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    M:

    That’s part of his game he needs to work on. Guy his size should have a post up game as part of the package.

  238. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    Yes and a foul!

  239. blake May 29th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    “LeBron question. For those who watch him a lot, does he have a back to the basket game? I always see him driving, but I don’t know that I’ve seen him back down players in the post.”

    nothing like Kobe has…Lebron is bigger and faster and stronger than everyone. I think it will be interesting to see how he adjusts as he ages and that starts to fade. Jordan and Kobe were able to adjust and be just as effective by changing the way they played as they got older. I think it will be a tougher transition for Lebron because so much of his game is reliant on his athletic ability.

  240. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That was a foul and Kobe said YES SIR anyways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2 pointer!! SWISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  241. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    wow, what was last shot by Kobe! AMAZING!

  242. nat May 29th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    i hope his lardness opts out after ’12 so yanks can sign a real ace

  243. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Saw some highlights from Halladay’s perfecto. He’s obviously a terrific pitcher, best in the game in my opinion, but it didn’t hurt having a strike zone the size of a Volvo tonight.

  244. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Take that Arizona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  245. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    Talk about frozen rope. :shock:

    blake & Billy D.

    Thanks for the confirmation. I have no doubt he could do it. He’s supremely talented and sure-handed ballhandler. Just wondering why he hasn’t done it yet? He’s very young. But, he’ll be entering his 8th year? It’s a little soon to be talking legacy. But some analysts were doing just that when the Cavs were eliminated.

    Did you guys see where Bosh, Wade, Joe Johnson, and LeBron are going to powwow before making decisions? Unreal.

  246. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    That sounds like a fun time Randy. I’m very much a beach person. No place I’d rather be probably. Maybe I should road trip more often. I will when I get some money.

  247. melladie May 29th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    “it didn’t hurt having a strike zone the size of a Volvo tonight.”

    “referees sign, sealed and delivered Game 5 to the Magic”

    Are you busy hiding from the black helicopters?

  248. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    Uh oh. Only a 2 possession game at best.

  249. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    I hate the Lakers with a passion, too much hype. I hope the Celtics win.

  250. Uncle Dick May 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Lebron doesn’t need to have that kind of game yet. The person who should have it is Dwight Howard.

  251. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Melladie

    I’m happy for Halladay. Always liked him and enjoy watching him pitch. Just commenting on the wide zone. It appeared to be the same for Johnson and the Marlins pitcher as well. Not suggesting any shenanigans.

  252. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    i never had an argument . i said in the beginning i wondered about cervelli’s lack of plate appearances in the minors.

    And I explained why. And you continued to ignore it. You can wonder about the mysteries of the universe, why the chicken crossed the road, why a 70 year old would post on a blog. But the answer to your wondering is readily available, and I provided it for you. He had a lack of plate appearances due to injury and being called up. The end.

    I’m extremely high on romine, but sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make a point omelet.

  253. CR9 May 29th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Take that, Phoenix!!!! You scumbag Dragic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Time to enjoy a nice Lakers victory in Tampa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nite ALL!!!!! The Yankees will get back on track tomorrow!!!!

    It’s not how a team loses a game like today, it’s how a team responds that makes them the champions that they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  254. Joba to the Minors May 29th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Lakers are just appetizers for the Celtics machine

    Celtics are not losing to this Lakers team

    The best chance to stop the Celtics takeover was LeBron, and he and Mike Green sabotaged the series along with “superman” West and MO Williams.

    Celtics will beat Lakers in 6 just like in 08. N

  255. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    randy,

    What do you think I have been doing away from this blog the past week :).

    Unfortunately I have work to get done tonight :( . And the GF is gone for the night so I am enjoying having the apartment to myself for once.

  256. Peter May 29th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Brett,

    Me too. Screw the rapist and his 4 rings. Keep it at 4.

    Celtics have some classy players like Rondo, Doc Rivers, Ainge, Scalabrini, Nate Robinson the former Knick, etc.

    Would much rather see them win than the Lakers and rapist again…

  257. melladie May 29th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    “referees sign, sealed and delivered Game 5 to the Magic”

    Are you busy hiding from the black helicopters?

  258. Gin May 29th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Need Soria and Marmol more than ever now.

    I’d be willing to give up Joba for either. In the case of Marmol, Joba in the NL might actually be a good reliever. We saw how guys like Farnsworth, Park, etc. were dominant in the NL but sucked in the AL.

    Hope we pull off that trade.

  259. Hman23 May 29th, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    This was a rough game in many respects, but I am wondering why Girardi is never questioned on his bullpen management. It is so maddening to me at times. He is so wedded to matching up left/right with guys and his “one out specialists.”

    Matchups are fine in some instances, but I wonder if he ever considers whether or not the guy he has in looks sharp and maybe, just maybe he should stick with someone. Instead, it seems like he has a prearranged plan in mind every time . . . bring in the left hander to face the lefty, then no matter what, bring in the right hander to face the next guy, and then no matter what bring in Joba . . . well, because”he’s my 8th inning guy.” (I know today was the 7th inning, but you get the point).

    Obviously, a manager does not do this with a starter, so I wonder why it has become such the norm to go so overboard on the left/right matchups when it comes to relievers.

    I know Girardi is not the only one, and it has become the norm, but it drives me crazy.

  260. Todd May 29th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    Joba is pitching as a reliever like he did as a starter.

    He is useless in his current format. Send him to Triple A

  261. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    I hope Lakers won’t disappoint me in the Final, and crush some Celtic players’ bones!
    Just hit Rando HARD!

  262. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    Scalabrini? Is that some kind of dish? Pasta Scalabrini? Dude is in street clothes. Ainge is getting fined for tossing a towel trying to distract an opponent during a free throw.

  263. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    I’m a UCONN fan. Ray Allen is a class act. I don’t really like Rondo personally but he’s incredible on the floor, just uncanny court vision. I like Nate Robinson a whole bunch too. He oozes love for the game and he’s truly fun to watch. I think Doc Rivers is a class act as well.

  264. Soul May 29th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    Girardi is never questioned for his BP management because the media is smart enough to know that the bullpen sucks and no matter where he goes, he gets burned.

    Joba is going to have to blow 4 or 5 more games in the 7th before they consider making a change.

  265. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ins-29289/

    Strasburg can’t beat Jesus.

  266. Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    As for what Im doing on a saturday? I have prior engagements reserved for my bedroom later :)

    I find most of the fun is inside the apartment.

  267. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    Cameron Diaz is ugly, what’s wrong with A-Rod? :)

  268. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    Gin May 29th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
    Need Soria and Marmol more than ever now.

    I’d be willing to give up Joba for either. In the case of Marmol, Joba in the NL might actually be a good reliever. We saw how guys like Farnsworth, Park, etc. were dominant in the NL but sucked in the AL.

    Hope we pull off that trade.
    *****************

    Carlos Marmol might be inconsistent in the strike zone but he more than makes up for it with his 17.88 K/9. Hurts so good.

  269. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    I was thinking to see Iron Man 2, but since Cameron Diaz is in it, I have to pass.

  270. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    times are tough for everyone brett. hopefully things will get better.

    also you should remember that i probably should have been a little more mature at that age. going out all the time probably wasn’t the most responsible thing to do.

    those were good times though. no regrets.

    the most broke i’ve ever been was in my early twenties. some friends and i had a stained glass studio in northampton,ma (near umass ) we were so broke we lived in the studio which was in a big old factory , but so was almost everyone else we knew so it was still a fun place to be. typical college town.

    i haven’t had a job with anyone since i was about twenty years old, but i was broke for about ten years in my twenties. so hang in there. nothing wrong with having to work your way up.

  271. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Jerkface May 29th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
    As for what Im doing on a saturday? I have prior engagements reserved for my bedroom later

    I find most of the fun is inside the apartment.
    ************************

    There ya go Jerkface. Where protection though. I recently survived a scare and got tested for STD’s. The most horrific experience in the world.

  272. pistol pete May 29th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Good thing we didn’t give up Joba and some hi level minor leaguers for Doc Halladay.

  273. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
    Cameron Diaz is ugly, what’s wrong with A-Rod?
    ****************************

    My best friend in the whole world changed his opinion about Cameron Diaz a year or two ago. He never thought she was all that until he came across her in New York City and got to see her up close, live. He was blown away by her looks and especially her body. He’s a picky dude too. He said if he had the chance, he wouldn’t sleep with Paris Hilton because she’s too annoying.

  274. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Um.

    The http://www.std.lhblogs.com is that way. :arrow:

  275. Betsy May 29th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Congrats to Doc – what a remarkable pitcher

  276. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    “You can wonder about the mysteries of the universe, why the chicken crossed the road, why a 70 year old would post on a blog.”

    jerkface-

    i don’t see any reason for bringing gb7 into our discussion.
    of course he’s probably out having fun unlike you being at home blowing up that doll.

    ok, that crosses a line.

    that’s between you and the doll.

  277. Billy D May 29th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    “but i was broke for about ten years in my twenties”

    Great Depression?

  278. Betsy May 29th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    CC will be fine; Joba….not so much. I’m not going to blame the Yankees for his issues – they are on him.

  279. Hman23 May 29th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Soul -

    There are weak links in the bullpen to be sure, but for example, why not stick with Marte today?

    Or the other day against Minnesota, when he was taken out for a right hander, even though three lefties (including Mauer and Morneau were next)?

    I mean, the guy CAN pitch to right handed batters. His splits are no worse than Pettitte this year.

    On the other hand, the amount of rope he gives to Joba is incomprehensible. Melancon gives up a run, he’s right back to Scranton. But, when Joba is shoiwng right before your eyes that he does not have it, Girardi won’t even yank him.

  280. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Randy,

    Yeah, I try not to get down on myself despite my unrealistic expectations. I’ll be going back to school soon to become an RD.

  281. m May 29th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....lem-23835/

    Finally found it.

    Hughes’ day passed in April.

    Joba’s day is “targeted for August 7″.

  282. randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    “Great Depression?”

    billy d-

    lol good one.
    but anytime jimmy carter is your president it’s gonna be a while before things get good .

    i forgot to tell brett i lived next to smith college in that time period for a few years so all my friends weren’t broke.
    i have no idea how i ended up living next to the largest women’s college in the us. just dumb luck i guess :)

  283. Joba Tips his Cap May 29th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    KOBE!!!!!

    nuff said.

  284. LGY May 29th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    What is an RD if you don’t mind me asking?

  285. VON Cloepfil May 29th, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Phil Hughes is the true ace of the Yankees.

  286. Uncle Dick May 29th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    the most broke i?ve ever been was in my early twenties. some friends and i had a stained glass studio in northampton,ma (near umass ) we were so broke we lived in the studio which was in a big old factory , but so was almost everyone else we knew so it was still a fun place to be. typical college town.

    i haven?t had a job with anyone since i was about twenty years old, but i was broke for about ten years in my twenties. so hang in there. nothing wrong with having to work your way up
    =============

    randy l. May 29th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
    ?Great Depression??

    billy d-

    lol good one.
    but anytime jimmy carter is your president it?s gonna be a while before things get good .

    i forgot to tell brett i lived next to smith college in that time period for a few years so all my friends weren?t broke.

    ============

    ????????

  287. Bret the Hitman May 29th, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    i have no idea how i ended up living next to the largest women’s college in the us. just dumb luck i guess
    **************************

    You bushwacker! LOL.

    I can’t point the finger though. I have a subliminal radar for that sort of thing too. Wherever I end up, wherever I go, beautiful women EVERYWHERE.

  288. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    LGY,

    An RD is a Registered Dietitian. I want to specialize in nutritional therapy for alternative schools with behavior problems and students with nutrition deficient disorders like autism, ADD, ADHD. I want to redesign menus for school districts and secure contracts between them and small farms that produce local, organic whole foods. I want to eliminate gluten, dairy and GMO’s from school lunch and promote health in collaboration with administrators, teachers, the physical education department and parents. Since there is a direct link between diet and mental health and cognitive function, I suspect my revitalized schools will produce happier, healthier, smarter kids that misbehave less and focus more on their studies and therefore perform better academically.

  289. LGY May 30th, 2010 at 12:03 am

    randy,

    Maybe you should be getting some work done on this Saturday night like me. Expand the brand. Then you could sell more trinkets :lol:

    /Trisha’d

  290. Erica in NY May 30th, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Good night Yankee people!

  291. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    lgy-

    no worries. record breaking day selling “trinkets” today :)

    need to rest up for another one tomorrow.

  292. Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Bret, I commend your motive, but do you have proof of the direct link of diet and mental health with autistic children?

  293. Cookiepuss May 30th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    I hate to say it but I think it’s time for the Yankees to think about trading Joba. He can’t hack it as a starter (otherwise he’d have remained in the rotation after last season) or an eighth inning setup man, and I cannot see him making it as the closer after Mo long-term. Yeah, he’ll probably start out 15 for 15 in save attempts but at some point he will pitch so badly he’ll probably blow more saves in one year than Mo has ever blown in any two years. He doesn’t have the mental makeup to be a closer, I don’t see it. Time to consider trading him for three relievers who would complement Mo and three new guys I’d replace Robertson, Marte, Logan, and Mitre with. I hope I’m wrong about Joba but the more I see of him, the more he just looks like a thrower instead of a pitcher.

    This entire bullpen outside of Mo needs an overhaul and it’s not coming from the farm system. The days of relying on homegrown talent for the pen are over, at least for this year and next. Mark Melancon has shown he cannot stay with the big club. Ivan Nova is a starter, so is Aceves who got hurt from too many appearances as a reliever, which he is not cut out to be. He and Nova should battle for the fifth starter slot next year.

    Cashman was an IDIOT for trading Coke and Dunn, two homegrown lefty relievers who cost peanuts. Now he has an overpriced piece of crap for one lefty reliever in Marte and a cheap piece of crap for another lefty in Logan.

    If the Yankees cannot get their bullpen straightened out, they will miss the postseason again and if they do, Cashman should be fired and Girardi should be let go. Neither is indispensable and quite frankly, Cashman showed he is a terrible g.m. when he isn’t spending tons of money this offseason. Not ONE offseason move he has made has paid off outside of Thames. Winn didn’t even make it to June. Park is garbage. Johnson is a total bust. I’m not sold on Vasquez or Granderson yet.

  294. pat May 30th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Hard for a Yankee fan to comprehend but combined attendance at Braden and Halladay’s Perfect Games- 24,228

  295. Jerkface May 30th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    no worries. record breaking day selling “trinkets” today

    Congrats on your first sale. hope you can double it up tomorrow

  296. VON Cloepfil May 30th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    for anyone who wants to watch the Jackson-Evans fight:

    http://www.iraqgoals.tv/ch3.html

  297. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    I still can’t believe the Yankees lost this game. :mad:

  298. Betsy May 30th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    M, fortunately or unfortunately there is plenty of season left for more games like this to happen, lol.

  299. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 12:10 am
    Bret, I commend your motive, but do you have proof of the direct link of diet and mental health with autistic children?
    ***********************

    The genetic damage in the more severe cases of autism is irreversible. But the condition in childhood can grow more severe or worsen with age if certain nutritional needs are unmet and bad foods are consumed. Bad foods. Bad food substances and bad food chemicals further or accelerate genetic irregularities. On the flip side, good nutrients return genes to normalcy and restore optimum function. I’ve even read that symptoms of Down’s Syndrome, if caught early enough can be improved even to the point of physical appearance. It’s all about the interaction of genes and nutrients since genes cannot and do not function independently. There is a whole new science called nutrigenomics that proves how specific nutrients effect specific genes to guide specific cellular activities.

  300. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    Betsy,

    LOL.

    JeterJobaCano went off on someone tonight. You are not the worst fan anymore.

    Check out the horrible, nasty things that people posted on Joba’s “Life is about perspective!” tweet pic. Nasty stuff!:

    http://tweetphoto.com/24613072

  301. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Hey everybody! Haven’t had too much time to post but good to get some time back on here!

  302. Betsy May 30th, 2010 at 12:28 am

    M, I didn’t know I was the worst fan, lol

  303. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    M,

    I was definetely frustrated with Joba today but to post those things on a picture of him and his son (I think?) is just absolutely out of line. Makes “Yankees” fans look really bad in my opinion.

  304. Betsy May 30th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Well, I’ll be home tomorrow and back to posting as usual.

    Tyler, how are you?

    Night all!

  305. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Joba follows 7 people. The Jets QB, espn’s #1 cutie girl, and Swish the Fish. And some dude who talks about gambling, stri… :)

  306. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Betsy! Doing good. Just been up at Mizzou watching some of my friends play in the NCAA softball super regional up there. How have you been? Didn’t watch the game today but heard it was rough. Hope you’re not too down… Phil pitched great last night though!

  307. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Tyler,

    Totally hated Joba’s twittering and his tweets in particular. Kid is cute. The words were not. He doesn’t say he needs to be a better pitcher. :P

    Vile people saying vile stuff. On his account! But he opens himself up to it. He might learn the lesson Hughes did. You can’t be too accessible to these psychos.

  308. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    m,

    Ya I guess. If he posts on twitter he’s opened himself up for anybody to say anything. I just think that Joba is way too stubborn for his own good and needs a good talking to from Harlan. Joba had such a tough childhood while Hughes seemed to have a much more stable foundation which has translated to his pitching and overall demeanor. I think Jobber bounces back.

  309. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Jobber bounces back because that’s what he does. Pitchers have their ups and downs. He just needs to find a way to stay up longer.

  310. GC May 30th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Can you people stop pontificating about Joba’s background and demeanor and the impact it has on his pitching?

    Do you realize how moronic that is? You’re making these broad nonsensical assumptions based on what? Joba’s problems have nothing to do with his “upbringing” or “demeanor.” Unless either of those things took 4 MPH off his fastball and screwed up his mechanics…

  311. Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Bret, that isn’t considered proof nor a direct link. You’re fighting a multi-billion dollar industry and an illness yet to be solved. Medications given to those children have nutritional side-effects to begin with. However, since this is for a good cause and I see your great intentions, I will bow out gracefully. I wish you the best.

  312. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    GC-

    I disagree but whatever. I think Joba is too stubborn for his own good and always has been even in ’07 but he was hitting 99 then so it wasn’t a big deal. I think his dad not being present as much and his sickness has had an effect on him. It is naiive to say it hasnt. I see someone who is immature based on the DUI and I really haven’t seen anything that has changed my mind since then. Listen, I’m a big Joba and Yanks fan and think he will definetey bounce back. I just honestly think he lacks the maturity of Hughes and that shows in his mind demeanor and pitching presence on the mound. I trace that back to his lack of a parental figure. But I don’t want to argue with somebody who’s able to use such big words as pontificating.

  313. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    No direct link has been found between the backgrounds and performances of either pitcher.

    Best to leave this one alone…

  314. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Joba had too much fame too soon. His arrival in ’07 helped spark the run for the wild card in 07 and then he just go too big for his own good. His stuff is still good at 95. He doesn’t have to hit 98. Its all mental with him.

  315. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    m,,

    I never said that there was a direct link or any evidence. Just stating my opinion. I see a big difference in maturity between Joba and Phil. And in my mind that has caused a big difference in results. Just stating my opinion.

  316. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 12:42 am
    Bret, that isn’t considered proof nor a direct link. You’re fighting a multi-billion dollar industry and an illness yet to be solved. Medications given to those children have nutritional side-effects to begin with. However, since this is for a good cause and I see your great intentions, I will bow out gracefully. I wish you the best.
    ***************************

    Thanks. I am definitely fighting a multi-billion dollar drug industry. But that is a good cause.

  317. LGY May 30th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Joba follows 7 people on Twitter and one of them is some guy who runs a website called TheDirty?

    WTH is wrong with him?

  318. LGY May 30th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    And one of the other guy’s he follows is the host of Man vs Food.

    Explains a lot about Joba’s “shape” the past 2 years :lol:

    Maybe he should be following Bret the Hitman’s twitter.

  319. m May 30th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    Tyler,

    lol. That was a joke. Someone asked for a direct link between certain diseases & gmo foods. And someone before brought up the exact opposite of your theory on Hughes & Joba. That Hughes wasn’t tough because his background wasn’t conducive to it. This, of course, was after his brutal start in Baltimore a while back.

  320. Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    m,

    Just to be clear, my posts were about autistic children.

  321. Bo knows May 30th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Cisco kid is batting 323 with an on base of 400 and 21 RBI in 30 games. At the same time he’s playing good to excellent defense. Randy doesn’t like him for style points. What is this – figure skating?

    I think Randy is bored. When he gets bored he starts to nit. Nit, nit nit. And someone always answers.

  322. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    m,

    lol sorry missed the joke. Kinda tired I guess. GC was serious so I thought you were too. Yea I guess you could say that Hughes was pampered and whatever so he’s less mentally tough. I don’t think background has so much to do with it rather than just what you can see with your own eyes. Joba just seems immature to me at least right now while Phil just seems much more poised and grounded.

    Lol certain diseases and gmo foods. I guess you can fish for a link and cause between almost any 2 things if you have enough time on your hands haha. I’m going to be in medical school this fall and I just laugh at some of the studies that come out linking certain things. They are just so correlational and have no cause and effect but people follow them like they are the gospel.

  323. m May 30th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    Oops. Certain conditions. I don’t dismiss the claims at all. Just a play on words for the “direct link”. Two unsolvable mysteries. Joba & GMO. :?:

  324. m May 30th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Tyler,

    No need to be sorry. You would’ve had to be around for the kerfuffle when I brought up the theory about Phil to have gotten it. That’s why I said it’s best to let it go…sleeping dogs and all that.

  325. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    I don’t pretend to know what Joba’s problem is. It just seems that whatever it is, continuing to do what they’re doing isn’t going go fix it.

  326. Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    I think you took my posts as having encryptic meaning. Bret was talking about becoming a RD. The conversation wasn’t related to the Yankees. I put forth my opinion on Autism.

  327. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Uncle Dick,

    Some light reading for you:

    http://www.thoughtfulhouse.org/Barnhill,%20NAA.pdf

    BTW, Jenny McCarthy is a huge advocate for nutritional therapy.

    Montell Williams, who has MS, is also a believer.

  328. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Tyler,

    Your med school curriculum was designed and subsidized by the drug industry. Just so you know…

  329. JM May 30th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    The problem with Joba is the same as when he was a starter. From game to game you never know what you are going to get. One game lights out, one game absolutely terrible. Those hoping for improvement because he was in the bullpen role have to be disappointed. I am really beginning to think that he is one of those guys who never lives up to his potential.

  330. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    An excerpt for Tyler…

    Here’s what I learned about nutrition in medical school: Zero. If we studied it, it was only
    a week or so taken out of some other class, and I don’t remember it. Most MDs spend very little
    time on nutrition and the role it plays in health. In medical school we spend our time learning
    about prescription medicines and how they interact with the body and with biochemistry, so it’s
    not surprising that’s how we treat disease. Not only do we not know anything about nutrition,
    we tend to think of it as unimportant. The dogma that’s taught in medical school is that you get
    everything you need from a typical varied diet. Most of us believe that nutritional
    supplementation is a way to make expensive urine, just a great way for vitamin manufacturers to
    make money. When I came into the field of autism treatment, I went back and relearned
    biochemistry, and I realized by how wide a breach we were missing the boat.

  331. Uncle Dick May 30th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Thanks Bret. I will take a look. Not to be dismissive here, but I have 20 years experience in the field.

  332. m May 30th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Uncle Dick,

    No, I took the request of a “direct link” (which by the way is also an old inside joke on the blog) and applied it to another old joke on the blog which is the theory that Phil and Joba’s backgrounds make them wilt under the bright lights.

    I, in no way meant to undermine any position on the subject of autism. Apologies for that

  333. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    -Yankees are interested in a right handed bat since they believe Johnson won’t be back anytime soon.

    -Carlos Delgado’s agent contacted Cashman recently, but there’s still no mutual interest, this includes Jermaine Dye.

    -There’s less of a need for bullpen arm, as a righty bat is the priority

    -Don’t count the Yankees out on getting a starting pitcher, because of worries about Vasquez, who they see as regressing in his last start with Twins. They will continue to monitor Cliff Lee, to see the asking price in July. He wants to test the market, and play with CC and the Yankees.

    -Roy Oswalt has said he prefers LA, St Louis, and Atlanta, there doesn’t appear to be huge interest about coming to NY. High on his list is CWS, because of his hunting buddy Jake Peavey plays for the team.

    -Mets have more interest in Lee than Oswalt, because Lee will test free agency, can the Mets afford to give up top talent for a two month rental?

    -Lee, Crawford, and Werth will all be atop of the Yankees targets this winter.

    -One sleeper team in the mix for Crawford is Houston. Crawford spent time with Michael Bourn
    last weekend when TB was playing the Astros, and Crawford took a liking to the idea of playing for his hometown.

    -FYI Thank you

  334. m May 30th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    I don’t understand the need for a righty bat when Johnson was LH. Unless you’re counting on miranda as his replacement?

    But anyway, offense is not going to be a problem. Granderson is back to lengthen the lineup. Russo is a nice backup. miranda’s got a nice swing. And Tex has to start hitting sometime soon. Didn’t we score 20+ runs the last 2 games?

    How about we fix the pitching? Can’t do much about Javy. It is what it is. Gotta start bringing up pitchers. Throw ‘em at the wall, and see what sticks.

    I believe what Cashman says when he says, “We have all the pieces right here. They need to figure it out.” Jeter, Rodriguez, Cano, Teixeira, Swisher. We don’t need a bat, and there’s 4 RH bats in that group alone.

    Pitching. First, and foremost relief pitching. Fix it, and a lot of troubles disappear.

  335. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2010 at 1:35 am

    IOW, burn every prospect for a quick fix that will take the payroll to $250m.

  336. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    m,

    yeah i hear you definitely.

    the only person that knows how to fix Joba is Joba.

  337. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 1:38 am

    An excerpt for Uncle Dick,

    Eliminating gluten and casein has been documented in both clinical settings and research to benefit a significant number of children with autism. (See Changing the Course of Autism by Bryan Jepson, MD, for references.) Anecdotal positive response varies, but in my clinical practice, approximately 70% of parents report improvement in physical, cognitive, or behavioral symptoms. Not everybody responds, and it’s not always profound, but parents typically feel it’s worthwhile.

  338. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 1:38 am

    Bret-

    I’m going to be entering my first year so I really can’t comment on alot of that as I havn’t been exposed to it. My dad is an MD (went to med school out of the country though) and works as a research manager for a pharmaceutical company. I don’t really know enough specifically about the argument you’re presenting but I do agree that we need to look in-depth and nutrition and treating the individual patient in my humble, modest, probably inconsequential opinion. Are you an physician? I’m off to Baylor Medical School in the fall.

  339. Jerkface May 30th, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Trade for Lee & Oswalt, move CC and Hughes to the bullpen.

    We get a lefty / righty 1-2 8th inning punch!

  340. m May 30th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    Tyler,

    I used to think that, too. But I think he needs help now. And I don’t think the Yankees are doing much to help that cause.

    This is a very small sample size, but according the RAB, Joba’s either blown or contributed in blowing 3 of his last 5 games (at least twice in a glorious blaze of fire). At some point, you’ve got to consider that Joba’s letting the pressure get to him. I suggest they pull him back a bit. Get back to the basics, and make it simple. Unfortunately, we don’t have many EIG options. Aceves out. Park hasn’t been the same since coming off the DL. Robertson’s back is a problem now. Sergio as our savior? Yikes.

  341. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    lol jerkface. Sad part is somebody will probably seriously bring up that scenario if the Yanks are down in the 2nd inning tom. and not be joking about it at all.

  342. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 1:43 am

    m,

    I don’t think Mitre is adjusted to the short relief role yet. He had been throwing the ball pretty darn well but those three pitches today were all over the place. Small sample size I know but It takes some adjustment as to my knowledge he’s always been a start or long man. I don’t know if he can even come in during the middle of an inning and be effective at this point.

  343. Tommy May 30th, 2010 at 1:46 am

    I’d give up so much for Soria

    Hughes, kennedy, etc.

    Wtihout a billpen we are not making the play9fss

  344. m May 30th, 2010 at 1:49 am

    Then there’s Gaudin, who’s pretty decent if he can keep it in the park.

    I miss the good ol’ days when Kim would ask Phil, “WoW! How do you do it?! What’s it like pitching in the 8th inning?” And he’d give her some smart alec answer like, “Um, it’s just pitching one inning after the 7th?”

  345. Tyler May 30th, 2010 at 1:49 am

    Lol I don’t think that the D-Backs would appreciate a Kennedy for Soria trade. Really die-hard fan right there.

  346. R-Tek May 30th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    The Brewers and Mets scored a combined 14 runs in the first 4 innings and neither team scored after that.

    Brewers won 8-6

  347. Joe May 30th, 2010 at 1:51 am

    Gaudin is a ROOGY. A pretty good one too.

    I wouldn’t mind a Marte/Gaudin 8th inning platoon.

    Anyone but Joba at this point

  348. TR May 30th, 2010 at 1:53 am

    On Saturday 29th May 2010, @Joba_62 said:

    reply

    http://tweetphoto.com/24613072 Life is about perspective! Have to get better as a father, friend, and baseball player! Sun comes up tomorrow!!

  349. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 1:54 am

    m
    Yankees ARE trying to get a solid #4 in the rotation, Javier was suppose to eat innings, he’s not.ion
    Stay tuned Cashman is working behind the scenes.

    -Don’t be surprised to see Joba sent down, many in the organization feel he’s too comfortable
    with his position in the majors, and that gets him in trouble.
    He was almost sent down in August of last year, because of his bad performance in the rotation.

    -FYI Thank you

  350. Bret the Hitman May 30th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    Tyler,

    I’m not a physician. I want to go back to school to study dietetics because I want to become a licensed RD.

    Read UltraMind Solution by Mark Hyman MD.

    It will change the way you view your studies and give you a competitive edge over your classmates.

  351. Eric May 30th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    I cannot stand Joba on twitter.

    He is exactly why people hate twitter.

  352. Zolio May 30th, 2010 at 1:59 am

    Joba, Laird, Miranda, Melancon, and Royce Ring for Soria or Marmol

  353. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:04 am

    FYI,

    Are they trying to trade Javy? (any bites?)

    And what are some of the names you’ve heard that they’re interested in?

  354. Jerkface May 30th, 2010 at 2:13 am

    Joba, Laird, Miranda, Melancon, and Royce Ring for Soria or Marmol

    Wayyyyyyy too much for 1 reliever. Like stupidly too much.

  355. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 2:18 am

    ml

    It’s thought he’s hiding an injury, loss of control, command, velocity down. Javier’s trade value is low. I haven’t heard anyone but Lee so far that has Cashmans interest. He holds his cards closes you know.

    -FYI Thank you

  356. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 2:22 am

    m

    Sorry I floated an l by your moniker, I wondered were that l went.

  357. LGY May 30th, 2010 at 2:25 am

    Cash seems to really like Lee. Usually when that happens the player eventually ends up as a Yankee.

    Wonder how much he offered over the winter for Lee before trading for Javy.

  358. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:26 am

    Not convinced on Lee. While trading for him could give the Yankees leverage with a 72-hour window to negotiate, I can’t see Cashman paying twice with prospects AND cash.

    With CC bound to come around, AJ having a nice season, Andy having a stellar season, and Hughes being the biggest surprise of all, they don’t need Cliff Lee to put them over the top this season.

    If no trade, and Javy’s still ineffective I could see them putting him in the bullpen if he can’t be traded. Then bring up one of the AAA guys to eat up his innings.

  359. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:27 am

    Actually, you forgot the “e”. I’m the poster formerly known as “mel”

  360. LGY May 30th, 2010 at 2:29 am

    Javy as the EIG!

  361. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2010 at 2:30 am

    “Wonder how much he offered over the winter for Lee before trading for Javy.”

    From what I read, the Phillies wouldn’t even engage in trade talks with the Yankees as a result of the WS loss.

    That’s probably for the better from my perspective, I’m tired of trading prospects.

  362. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    m

    Putting Javier in the pen is like what Joba did today, blow a huge lead. Yankees need a fourth pitcher to rest Phil remember he is on pitch/ innings limit this year?

    -FYI Thank you

  363. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:40 am

    We should all thank our lucky stars that Halladay was not on last year’s Phillies team. Seriously. He is the man.

  364. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2010 at 2:41 am

    Hughes’s innings cap is around 175 IP. That won’t present a lot of issues.

  365. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2010 at 2:42 am

    How much better could Halladay have pitched in the WS than Lee?

  366. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:47 am

    2-0 vs 1-1? Perfect?

  367. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:49 am

    I guess we should thank our lucky stars that Pedro was pitching and that Hideki was in the lineup. :tears: What a game!

  368. Jerkface May 30th, 2010 at 2:50 am

    2-0 vs 1-1? Perfect?

    The phillies won both games Lee pitched

  369. m May 30th, 2010 at 2:52 am

    You’re not helping. :mad:

  370. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 3:01 am

    m
    -Lee pitched 2 games, Halladay has never played in posteason, let alone pitched on short rest
    like the Yankees did.

    -The Phillies getting rid of Lee is viewed as digging a hole with one hand, and filling it in with the other hand, by trading for Halladay, a lateral move, Ace for an Ace.

    -FYI Thank you

  371. Rich in NJ May 30th, 2010 at 3:04 am

    OT (and I’m going to sleep): There are probably compelling reasons why not, but I wish they could blow up that leaking oil well in the Gulf. It’s pissing me off.

  372. m May 30th, 2010 at 3:05 am

    Halladay>Lee

    Don’t fool yourselves. Halladay is the man. Even before today’s perfecto.

    Lee would be a nice consolation, but Halladay was the grand prize.

  373. FYI May 30th, 2010 at 3:11 am

    m

    He is good but he’s 1 pitcher who will win his game, look who the other pitchers are behind him, nothing to brag about

    -FYI Thank you.

  374. Jerkface May 30th, 2010 at 3:27 am

    The phillies did not really improve their chances of winning anything by trading Halladay for Lee. They should never have traded Lee.

    Adding Halladay to Lee improves their chances greatly, but honestly Lee has been kicking as much ass as Halladay in a harder league.

  375. Jerkface May 30th, 2010 at 3:28 am

    They basically just swapped halladay for lee because they could sign Halladay to an extension. That was valuable for them.

    But their team did not improve greatly with the trade. It only improved in years 2->4 where they have Halladay (and might not have had lee)

  376. blake May 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Halladay gave the Phillies a discount and they knew Lee wouldn’t plus Halladay is a better pitcher, that’s why the made the deal.

    However in the short term I don’t see how it improves their team all that much. Lee was about as good as a pitcher can be in the playoffs last year and it still wasn’t enough. As great as Halladay is I don’t think they can expect him to be any better than that.

    I think they were crazy not to keep Lee and have them both even if it were for just one year.

  377. AndyH May 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am

    I’m convinced CC on a good day is better than any other pitcher on a good day. But it’s almost June and the only pitcher performing crappier is the one who’s initials appropriately stand for Junior Varsity.

    Of course that’s starting pitching. In terms of relievers, if I could build a hybrid of Joba yesterday, Chan Ho Park in general and Robertsons HR to fly ball rate I’d come up with that 1.2 IP CM Wang start against the Indians last season. It was like what? 14 ER?

  378. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Good morning everyone.

    If anyone is up for it,

    Guess The Line Up is Now Open for Business.

    I’ll take lineups until 10:00 a.m. or until a lineup appears on Twitter.

    Thanks. Good Luck.

    :)

  379. blake May 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    greinke is 1-6 with pretty darn good numbers otherise..gotta be frustrating for the reigning cy young winner.

  380. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 30th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Also Just FYI -

    I have added a comments feature on the GTLU site on the blog page, which is where you’ll find the day’s lineup, participants and winners (if any).

  381. Trevor May 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    LF Gardner
    CF Granderson
    1B Teixeira
    3B Rodriguez
    2B Cano
    RF Swisher
    DH Miranda
    C Cervelli
    SS Pena

  382. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    baseball hangover from yesterday.

    new day.

    sunday mornings are one time when it’s nice and quiet on the blog.

    yankees are 9 games above .500.

    treading water.

    so when does the bullpen start shaping up ?

    when do the #3 and #4 hitters start hitting like the back of their baseball cards?

    i thought the yankees won whenever cervelli started. what’s happened with that?

    i’d start moeller today just to change things up .

    nice to see jeter snap of his slump. average up almost 30 points in two weeks.

    swisher a pleasure to watch too.

    after all the concern on the blog for how baseball players can play after a teammate is injured, i guess the indians proved that players detach from it and keep playing the game.

    of course , sabathia was so affected by it he totally lost it.

    that’s if you believe what you read by some on the blog yesterday.

    but what is up with sabathia?

    not very ace like lately.

    the good news today is you never know when aj will throw out a gem.

    something to hope for.

  383. whoever May 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    SS Jeter
    RF Swisher
    1B Teixeira
    3B Rodriguez
    2B Cano
    DH Miranda
    CF Granderson
    C Cervelli
    LF Russo

    Again, Doreen thanks.
    Better put your patent in on GTLU, it will soon be sweeping the nation.

  384. Rick May 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Joba Chamberlain has been pampered long enough. It’s time for a team member to call him out and ask if he’s dedicated to the profession of baseball. Jorge Posada is the ideal man to question what his intentions are.
    If teaching a young pitcher ideal pitching mechanics, Joba is the example of who not to be.
    Fortunately he won’t be used today under any condition.

  385. whoever May 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Yankees may have missed their chance to sell high on Joba. Don’t think many (any) teams want to take a chance on his future development.

  386. rover May 30th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    According to Elias, Jeter has more runs (1,602) and hits (2,807) within 15 years of his debut than any other player in Major League history.

    ———————————–

    I’d say that is something particularly special. But that describes jeter anyway.

  387. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    if i had a blog and i had a newspaper, i’d post my sunday morning article on my blog

    http://www.lohud.com/article/2.....01/5300451

  388. rl15 May 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Doreen,

    Hoping for a better day today.

    SS – Jeet
    RF – Swish
    1B – Tex
    3B – Arod
    2B – MVP
    DH – Miranda
    CF – Granderson
    C – Cisco Kid
    LF – Russo

    Late inning defensive replacement – GGBG

    Thanks again

  389. Yankee Trader May 30th, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Octavio Dotel, Brian Fuentes, Trevor Hoffman, Chad Qualls, Kerry Wood. These are some of the current closers on teams going nowhere and who are free agents in 2011 and doing nothing for their current teams who could easily be set-up relievers, and whose current teams would most likely love to ditch their contracts.

    The trouble is, at this point in the season, there is little out there, likely available, who could help the Yankees. AAA Scranton has 3 relievers pitching well-Ring, Melancon, and Albaladejo. Nova and Sanchez are currently starters.

    Definitely has been discouraging to watch the bullpen lose games by giving up a lead or widening the deficit.

    Any creative ideas as to what the Yankees can do now?

  390. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    http://www.lohud.com/article/2.....01/5300475

    looks like nice story by chd on miranda

  391. Erica in NY May 30th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Tex 1B
    A-Rod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Granderson CF
    Miranda DH
    Cervelli C
    GGBG LF

  392. CB May 30th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    “How much better could Halladay have pitched in the WS than Lee?”

    Much better – not on a rate basis but on an overall value basis.

    If Halladay were on the Phillies there would have been absolutely no question about him throwing 3 games in that series the way the rotations lined up.

    On the other hand, Manuel never seriously even considered throwing Lee on short rest and Lee, thankfully only made two starts.

    That’s the major difference between them. And needing to throw Pedro in the series is what ultimately killed the Phils.

    One of the reasons why the yankees won the world series last year was the strategic advantage CC gave them over Lee in being able to throw on short rest. If the Phils had Halladay that advantage would have been nullified.

    Being able to get your ace to throw extra games and extra innings on short rest in the post season is an enormous advantage as the yankees well know from seeing Randy Johnson torture them doing so. There are two pitchers in baseball who you can be confident can shoulder huge workloads – CC and Halladay. Having one of them on your staff is enormous.

    And it’s not just the world series. If the phillies had halladay they could have thrown him short rest throughout the entire playoffs last year.

    It’s not just that Halladay is a better pitcher than Lee – he is considerably more valuable because he has the capacity to throw so many innings. And on top of that he is less likely to get injured.

    The reliance on rate statistics obscures that value.

  393. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    you can just click on headlines above and get the sunday morning articles, but i didn’t notice that until i started looking around.

    if the new guys are going to take this blog seriously there is nothing that drives newspaper traffic than a well written long baseball article. peter gammons built a career on his sunday morning column.

    i hated the red sox but bought a globe every sunday to read gammons.

    chad’s done the articles. how hard is it to provide links to them on early sunday morning?

    i guess pretty hard because he ( they ) don’t.

  394. Yanks76 May 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Halladay a good pitcher?

    Please. LOL.

    A pitcher who allowed like 10 runs to the Red Sox is NOT a good pitcher.

    In the national league, even someone like Jeff Karstens could pitch a perfect game easily with some luck.

  395. Sean & Co. May 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Any creative ideas as to what the Yankees can do now?

    ++++++++++

    Yeah,

    dismantle the team now. They have absolutely no pitching. Would be lucky to get 4th place.
    Start over.

  396. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Joba isn’t the first young pitcher to lose their way (he’s just 24) and its not impossible that he could still have a very good career. He has the talent and other teams know that, so while it may seem he has no trade value the Yankees shouldn’t trade him unless whatever comes back is more valuable than what he could become.

    If he can be packaged in a trade for an impact player or pitcher at the deadline then I say do it…otherwise I think you take the label off his role and make him just another reliever that has a short leash if not effective (you can tell very quickly with Joba most of the time), and hope he can become more proficient at repeating his delivery.

  397. jon May 30th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    I agree with SJ44 from yesterday.

    DFA Joba asap, he will never figure it out. his presence would only hurt the team.

  398. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    “If Halladay were on the Phillies there would have been absolutely no question about him throwing 3 games in that series the way the rotations lined up.”

    that is a very good point.

  399. Betsy May 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Good morning!

    The bullpen’s woes are hiding what is a huge problem – Javy. What a discouraging outing that was – and we have no choice but to keep sending him out there. We won’t re-sign him after this and we’re not going to get 2 picks because he’d accept arbitration.

    The pen is a complete mess. There really is no such thing as an easy game if you can’t win that game against a disaster like the Indians.

    Joba needs to be broken down and fixed; of course, there’s only so much fixing the Yankees can do. It’s mainly up to him.

  400. Erica in NY May 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Off to the beach-

    Enjoy the beautiful day everyone!

    (Won’t be back until late tonight)

  401. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    CB-

    i’m wondering if teixeira in the off season shouldn’t revamp his swing for the rest of his career.

    because of the severe uppercutting and back leg dominance and the precision fine tuning it takes to hit like that, i think he’s going to have trouble as he loses his athleticism. his bat just doesn’t stay level with the ball plane for very long.

    tiger woods changed his swing in mid career.

    i don’t see why tex couldn’t do it too though i know the risks in messing with a baseball players swing.

  402. Betsy May 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    No one is going to trade an impact player for Joba – I’d be shocked if they did. He might be looked at as not worth the trouble. He does seem to get a lot of leeway. If Joe is going to insist that Joba be the EIG, then I have trouble buying his comments about how the team can’t really get going. They’re having trouble in large part because of Joba as EIG – though to be fair, the pen is awful and he’s got no one he can trust except Mo

  403. Betsy May 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    I don’t think Tex would mess with a swing his father taught him.

  404. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    “Off to the beach-”

    make sure not to dive in with your clothes on like betsy did .

    that gave people in chicago a strange impression of lohud bloggers.

  405. Harper Lee May 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Who have a better bullpen, the red sox or the yankees?

  406. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    I’m still not ready to give up on Javy. The only thing that worries me is the the possibility that he’s hiding some sort of shoulder pain. He was looking better then hurt his finger and had a poor outing against a good team on the road. Even in the Twins start he had a 2 or 3 inning stretch where he threw the ball pretty well. Maybe I’m overly optimistic but I’m still not ready to throw my hands up just yet with him.

  407. chris May 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am

    BTW, Nadia Petrova just beat the “American Porn Star” at French Open.

    Hallelujah !

  408. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    “No one is going to trade an impact player for Joba – I’d be shocked if they did.”

    no, not straight up they probably wouldn’t. Thats why I said “packaged with”, if you can’t get an impact player back by trading him then I don’t think you do.

  409. Ace Ventura is better May 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    our ace gets his A_$_$ handed to him by the worst team in baseball

    phillies ace throws a perfect game

    and the yankees could have had the phillies ace for joba the fire starter and their so called 20 yr old stud catcher who can’t hit a AAA pitch

    nice cashman

  410. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    Randy,

    I change my golf swing every hole

  411. CB May 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    “i’m wondering if teixeira in the off season shouldn’t revamp his swing for the rest of his career.”

    randy-

    I don’t know what if anything they should do with Tex long term or short term.

    His swing is a problem. It really is. I brought this up during the winter and spring training and some people thought it was crazy.

    But he’s a very rare player who gets great results with a terrible swing. The trade off of course is that he’s wildly streaky.

    And as you said – that’s a swing that is very much at risk for aging. Any loss in bat speed is going to hurt him enormously because his bat just doesn’t stay in the zone for very long at all.

    And on top of that I’m not even sure Tex needs that dramatic swing plane to hit home runs given how strong he is.

    But at the same time he’s had huge overall success with it so I’m not sure how much he’ll want to change it. If they could modify what he does in the off season it would be for the best but there’s a real risk in making everything go out of whack.

    And on top of that complexity you’d have to worry about not just one swing but two given the switch hitting. The RH swing is better than the LH but it’s still an issue.

    This is a problem though both short term and even more so long term. It just may need to be a problem they have to live with.

    It’s an ugly swing. There’s no question about that. And it’s very vulnerable to aging.

  412. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    “and the yankees could have had the phillies ace for joba the fire starter and their so called 20 yr old stud catcher who can’t hit a AAA pitch”

    no they couldn’t or Halladay would probably be in pinstripes now.

  413. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 30th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    randy l –

    Before Pete left, every day the first blog post of the day linked to the paper’s article(s). I’m sure the tabs at the top are supposed to replace that, but I don’t automatically go to those tabs.

    It did two things – ensured that there would be a fresh blog post with my morning coffee – everyday between 8 and 8:30 like clockwork; and second, it got people to read the Lohud sports pages.

    I think it’s something they need to do again. I’m sure it was an auto-post or something.

    I do miss that.

    Fresh, new day. Fingers crossed. :)

  414. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    “I don’t think Tex would mess with a swing his father taught him.”

    betsy-

    tiger messed with a swing his father gave him and that was after winning a masters.

    i wouldn’t suggest it normally, but teixeira has a swing that depends much more than a relly good swing on timing and athleticism.

    here’s the problem the way i see it. the ball comes in a a relatively straight line on a downward angle.

    teixeira has a swing plane that if you drew a straight line on it probably only is on the pitch line for a milli second. the problem is when his timing is off the ball isn’t there when his bat is.

    some hitters have their bat plane on the ball line or plane for a very long time and distance.

    this kind of hitter will make contact much easier.

    i once hadn’t played at all in two years and went into a semi pro game at bat with no batting practice at all. i just opened up, laid the bat down (like carew) shortened up the stroke, with the swing on plane with the pitch plane and went 3-4.

    there are things a hitter can do if they have tools in the tool box.

    teixeira has a giant hammer for every situation and every time of the year and i think it’s going to be a problem as he ages.

  415. Bronx Jeers May 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    MLB once went 34 seasons without a perfect game. Now there’s been 2 in 3 weeks.

    I think it’s time to re-introduce PED’s. :wink:

  416. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos May 30th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Does anyone really believe the Blue Jays were EVER going to deal with the NY Yankees???? Especially for Halladay????

  417. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    cb-

    if i remember right, you have a well worn charley lau hitting book.

    i do too.

    is it possible that teixeira really doesn’t know things like how to shorten his swing or put more emphasis on his front leg to level out the swing plane.

    i was first taught how to play golf by a lpga player who was ranked #60 in the world ( had beaten j.nicklaus from the same tees in an exhibition match at ohio state) , but she really struggled showing me how to play gold because she just did it. she didn’t know how she did it.

    she would have to do something and then tell me what she though she did. i had read lau’s book inside and out by then so i understood her swing better than she did. it was very strange.

    i do wonder what teixeira understands about his swing because he doesn’t seem to have the ability to make adjustments.

  418. randy l. May 30th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    doreen-

    the best sunday morning posts were murphydog’s. loved his lupica rants .

  419. CB May 30th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    “is it possible that teixeira really doesn’t know things like how to shorten his swing or put more emphasis on his front leg to level out the swing plane.”

    randy-

    I don’t think it’s an issue of knowledge at all. It’s an issue of risk.

    He most likely started hitting like this when he was very young. And he was always talented enough to excel anyway so why change anything?

    He’s an all star and just signed a $180M deal. There’s not a lot of impetus to take risk.

    The unfortunate thing about his swing mechanics is that they are very resistant to being tinkered with. That’s the bottom line.

    His swing mechanics are so rigid that he really can’t afford to make real adjustments without throwing out most of his approach. There’s just not enough room for error.

    Kevin Long is a very good hitting coach. I think we can safely say that. He has to be one of the best hitting coach I’ve seen. He knows what the issues are. They are one that just aren’t easy to fix.

    With a guy like Alex you can tinker with his swing a lot – and Alex likes to do that. Tex just doesn’t have the spare room to do that without risking much of what’s made him successful.

  420. blake May 30th, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Randy,

    My dad (who has forgotten more baseball than ill ever know) used to explain swing planes using the analogy of trying to catch a goldfish in a bowl.

    Guys like Howard, Ortiz, and tex that are in and out of the zone quickly were related to someone trying to catch th fish by using your hand and plunging it into the water at just the right time…he would say…it can be done and looks impressive but requires speed and precision timing.

    Then he would relate guys like ichiro, pujols, and jeter who gets the bat in the zone early and keep it there as trying to catch the fish with a net…the net goes in and stays in until the fish is caught..hed look at me and say ” which you think is easier”

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