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Blue Jays walk off in Toronto

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 05, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter’s two-run home run was all the offense the Yankees could manage this afternoon in Toronto. Through 14 innings, the heart of order struggled time and time again until the Blue Jays at last walked off with a 3-2 win. Starter Andy Pettitte struck out a season-high 10 and the bullpen kept the game tied until Chad Gaudin allowed a one-out, one-run single to Aaron Hill.

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211 Responses to “Blue Jays walk off in Toronto”

  1. Hobbs June 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Yep. This team is awful. Almost on same level as Indians and O’s.

    You see before long, the Red Sox will zoom right by us, and we will be 7, 8 games back of them.

  2. m June 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    2-for-24!

  3. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    no matter what, Jeter is always a hero.
    we know that

  4. vblade June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Lame loss. Forget blaming the offense, the way they were swinging the bats, we would have been here for 20 innings or more.

  5. SteveB June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    You gotta be able to manufacture 1 run in 14 innings!!!!!

  6. chan ho's runs June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Yankees can’t beat good teams. Simple as that.

  7. vblade June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    *blaming the pitching

  8. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    The team’s just fine.

    The manager who decided that the services of the greatest reliever in baseball history were unnecessary, however…

  9. Hobbs June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    ” Starter Andy Pettitte struck out a season-high 10 ..”

    I feel so sorry for Andy — to be struck with these bunch of losers.

  10. vblade June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    I guess 4th place isn’t too far away.

  11. Erin June 5th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Jeter and the pictching up to Gaudin were the bright spots in this game.

    The offense was just brutal today.

  12. vblade June 5th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    The team’s just fine.

    The manager who decided that the services of the greatest reliever in baseball history were unnecessary, however…

    ——————-

    Right, heart of the order goes 2-24 and you blame the manager. Brilliant deduction.

  13. your results may vary June 5th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    there goes 0.63% of the season.

    “Wait, are you saying this game is basically irrelevant?”

    that’s precisely what I’m saying.

    (divide 162 into 1, and you’ll see what I mean.)

  14. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    “the team is just fine. ”

    LOL, I am tired of this.

  15. dan June 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    When does the first baseman who struck out 5 times, tell us tonight that he had a good May and his swing is fine. Good lord he is brutal to watch …i think if you squint tonight and look north, you;ll see him striking out again and again and again

  16. vblade June 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Let’s see how the “this team is fine” argument works out when the Yankees are 15 games out in August.

  17. RalphieD (OPPC) June 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    baffles me as to how a team full of “losers” has the 2nd best record in baseball..odd, no?

  18. Erin June 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    vblade June 5th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Right, heart of the order goes 2-24 and you blame the manager. Brilliant deduction

    **************************

    :lol:

  19. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    This season is on Cashman, no kidding.

  20. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    “Right, heart of the order goes 2-24 and you blame the manager. Brilliant deduction.”

    Sure, the heart of the order had a crappy day. It happens. It’s unlikely to be endemic.

    The manager operating in a blatantly sub-optimal fashion? Unfortunately part of a longer pattern.

  21. Erin June 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    RalphieD (OPPC) June 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    baffles me as to how a team full of “losers” has the 2nd best record in baseball..odd, no?

    ***************************
    Yes. Very odd. ;)

  22. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    I don’t even know what to say.

    I missed the game as I was at a birthday party, but Andy seems like he was heroic again and the offense was MIA. I know the Yankees’ road #s are not good, but I figured that was because of all the time they’ve been on the road and the fact that they’ve not been healthy, but what is the excuse now? They’re mostly healthy and they did squat against a bad Jays pen.

    I don’t know what Alex did today, but he’s been good – I won’t get on him. Tex is just awful……..at some point, you have to drop him. I’m sorry and it doesn’t have to be permanent, but try something.

    Chad Gaudin did a nice job last year, but he looks awful thus far.

    I said in ST the Jays were good – and they are. They’ve got terrific young pitching and very good hitting. Soon enough, the Yanks might find themselves behind them.

  23. Rex June 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Nowhere to hide anymore for Teixeira. The NYC media will unload. The honeymoon is over.

  24. Even a.190 player hit better than Teixeira June 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Aaron Hill’s first hit, batting .190 and even he looks better than Teixeira, for a lot less money.

  25. The Curious Case of Joba Chamberlain June 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    This team can’t score on the road. And if they play a good team on the road might as well not watch.

  26. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    They have plenty of worries on offense.
    for starters, where is the normal A-Rod? Even Ortiz is back, where is A-Rod? He cannot do sh?t these days.

    I know someone is about to throw out some numbers.

  27. JK June 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    I would throw low outside changeups to teix all game….. worse outcome he makes contact and pulls it to a fielder.

  28. Hobbs June 5th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    The Red Sox are only 2 losses back from the second BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL.

  29. Hobbs June 5th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    The Red Sox are only 2 losses back from the second BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL.

    After tomorrow, one.

  30. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    besides the point:

    yesterday, the blue jays booth team mentioned that all jays prospects are taught to throw the change up. as a result, their system is full of young solid talent: marcum, romero, cecil, litch (injured), mcgowen (injured) – they produce a lot of good inning eating pitchers, who all use the change.
    whereas the yanks preach teaching a fastball-curve combo. this ideology has left many yankee pitchers with limited tools – d-rob (fb-cb), melancon (fb-cb), joba (fb-sl) and the list goes on.
    i believe the yanks need to re-examine how they bring up young pitchers.

  31. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    all right, sweep time tomorrow.

  32. The Curious Case of Joba Chamberlain June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I blame Tex the guy has turned into a bum.

  33. Jerkface June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I missed the game as I was at a birthday party, but Andy seems like he was heroic again and the offense was MIA. I know the Yankees’ road #s are not good, but I figured that was because of all the time they’ve been on the road and the fact that they’ve not been healthy, but what is the excuse now?

    The excuse? its just one game. Tex is struggling. We haven’t had Posada for a long stretch. Jeter was awful for a month. Cano blew it for 2 weeks. We’ve played a backup catcher for the last 20 games? Our LFer was Winn/Thames for about a month?

    The yankees were the best road offense last year and it wasn’t even close, the only guy who left and isn’t here that was better on the road than at home was Matsui.

    And 1 hitter isn’t going to turn this team from the best to the worst.

    Give them time.

  34. Trevor June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    They hadn’t faced a good pitcher since the 8th inning. The Jays pen isn’t all that, but they did nothing against it. They barely can hit on the road right now.

  35. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Hobbs

    How’d Ellis Hobbs do covering Plaxico on the game winning TD in SB XLII :lol:

  36. Seven June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    RalphieD (OPPC) June 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    baffles me as to how a team full of “losers” has the 2nd best record in baseball..odd, no?

    ———————-

    Not to mention that this is mostly the same team that won a world series last year too.

    Tough loss Gaudin walking the leadoff hitter was bad. And the middle of the order did nothing. But this is still a very good team. No need to panic.

  37. stuart June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    as I stated days ago gaudin stinks… he is bad plain and simple, mop up only……should have used mitre.. gaudin literally is horrible.

    good game by Tex. He has 34 RBI’s but that is mirage. With RISP he has been horrible, under 200..he cannot hit an off speed pitch to save his life..

  38. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Ninja Assassin June 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Tex needs to return to single A and learn how to hit again.

  39. pat June 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    I blame the pillows at the hotel!

    Makes as much sense as many of you.

  40. Jerkface June 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Tex needs to return to single A and learn how to hit again.

    Your Teixeirapi is evolving, it has became a Halladayus

  41. Canada's Health Care Strikes Again June 5th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Yay, the HGH team wins again.

  42. Erin June 5th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Seven June 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Tough loss Gaudin walking the leadoff hitter was bad. And the middle of the order did nothing. But this is still a very good team. No need to panic.

    ***************************
    How dare you try to bring some common sense to the blog. ;)

    I agree, tough loss today, but these games happen. All you can do is go back at it tomorrow.

  43. Yankees have come back to earth themselves! June 5th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Cerevelli is out for tomorrow, he has to be tired.
    Old man Moeller can’t hit, Yankees facing a sweep and knocked out of 2nd place.

    Tampa will feast on the Yankees with late inning comebacks, Yankees in 4th place within days,
    bank on it.

  44. Erin June 5th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    pat June 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    I blame the pillows at the hotel!

    *****************************

    LOL

  45. Bret the Hitman June 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    The bullpen gave Joe some great innings.

    That’s a bonus.

  46. Gaudin tips his cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Hey guys, don’t worry

    We have Javy Vazquez to save us tomorrow!!

  47. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    It’s not how a team loses a game like today and yesterday, it’s how a team responds that makes them the championship team that they are.

  48. Sey June 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    “The bullpen gave Joe some great innings.

    That’s a bonus.”

    Better hope Javy goes deep.

  49. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    i love all the “give them time” people, “tex will turn it around” and so on.
    the very same posts were written on this blog in 2008 – when nobody turned it around, and time just made the season worse.
    this year’s version has reall issues. nobody is jumping ship and saying it’s all doomed, because the problems are quite fixable, but hiding your head in the sand is very futile.

  50. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Jerkface, I agree with all that – but I’m talking about these two games. Then again, I know it’s just a small sample size. The Yanks have always been a good road team – and I really don’t think they are struggling because they aren’t at home. They’re struggling because they are an inconsistent offense at times……..

  51. SteveB June 5th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    I’m not panicking, but the better teams know how to manufacture runs and so far this season I haven’t seen the Yankees doing that in tight games like these.

  52. Rick June 5th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    “It’s not how a team loses a game like today and yesterday, it’s how a team responds that makes them the championship team that they are.”

    You mean against the Orioles and Indians?

    Yeah, great way to respond against the two worst ERAs in baseball at home.

  53. Macfan June 5th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Even folk like myself who kept making excuses for Teixeira have begun to wonder what is going on with this guy.

    His performance is not that of a #3 hitter, stating the obvious, but it needs to be stated.

    I mean a line of .215 AVG, .328 OBP, .370 OPS from a #3 Slugger is an absolute disgrace to be doing. Tex himself should be disgusted at his pitiful performance, he is contributing next to nothing on most nights for this team offensively.

  54. reality speaking June 5th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    The game never should have come down to Gaudin. Too many squandered chances throughout the game by the 3-4-5 hitters.

  55. Terp June 5th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Eerily similar to 2008, with the “give them time”, “they’ll turn it on”, “don’t worry, we’ve done it before”.

    Stop using last year’s stats as a bench mark for this year. New year. New players. New team. More brutal division.

    Just because we turned it on last year, doesn’t mean it will happen this year.

  56. Gaudin tips his cap June 5th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    It’s no longer a small sample size with Tex. It is almost mid-June.

    He is the Dontrelle Willis of pitchers – so mechanically messed up, he never recovered.

  57. sugar magnolia June 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    It’s time for less ebbin’, and more flowin’!

  58. What's a fan to do? June 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Why do the Yankees catch, the “can’t hit a thing,” all at the same time?

  59. Macfan June 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Tomorrow could be the worst possible matchup for Vazquez,

    The Blue Jays hit Homeruns and lots of them
    Vazquez gives up Homeruns and lots of them

    Tomorrow has a sweep written all over it.

    Amazing how we made this Jays bullpen look that couldn’t hold two 9th inning leads against Tampa. Wow.

  60. steveoh June 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Yeah, lose the game with your best relief pitcher sitting in the bullpen. Smart.

  61. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Actually, not eerily similar to 2008. Unless the Yanks had the second-best record in baseball in June ’08, of course.

  62. Jay June 5th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Have we turned into the, gulp, Red Sox? Only can hit at home and can’t hit breaking balls?

    Seems like the two teams have switched roles. Now they are mashing on the road, sustaining their offense, and coming from behind from 3-4 runs seemingly every night. While we are the team that drifts in and out of streaks, have trouble scoring on the road, and can’t hit breaking pitches.

  63. Trevor June 5th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    “They’re struggling because they are an inconsistent offense at times……..”

    I don’t, it’s such a big disparity between their home numbers vs road.

  64. Rico June 5th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    It makes you wonder if Teixeira ever goes over video with Kevin Long to spot his batting flaws or is he above such things. Long can’t force him to correct himself but Girardi can strongly advise it.

  65. can we beat a good team? June 5th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Thankfully we play the Baltimores and Houston after this. We face Arizona pretty soon too. Games are so much more watchable when we are playing bad teams we can beat, rather than look hopeless against good pitchig

  66. Vulture June 5th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    No blame on Andy?

    He can’t, absolutely can’t give up that 2nd run in the 7th when he knows this team has trouble scoring on the road and against good pitching.

    He was able to bare down in Minnesota and not let the run score, not today. That cost us the game more than anything. That was Burnett-like, re: giving up a key run.

    Andy’s numbers looked nice, but he had a lead in the 7th and couldn’t hold it.

  67. Joe's problem is he's stuck? June 5th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    It also doesn’t help having a manager wound so tight, he can’t pry himself away from the book, and use his own brain, he did play the game after all !.

  68. RMS June 5th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Chad Gaudin cut by the Yankees, signed by Oakland, cut by Oakland, signed again by the Yankees. Couldn’t get anyone better than Gaudin?
    Walks the first batter a cardinal sin. Then 0 and 2 count gives up a single. Great job. This guy should only be used when the game is out of hand.

    ——————————————————–
    Tex needs to get going or the fans will be all over him.

  69. Uncle Ellsworth June 5th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Anyone buying what Girardi is selling?

    Ha Gaudan is th the scapegoat gimme a break

  70. Matt June 5th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    You cannot be serious Vulture? Andy Pettitte gave up 2 solo home runs today and struck out 10 batters in 7 2/3.

    Scoring 2 runs in an American League game is pathetic, you cannot reasonably expect your pitchers to be perfect night in and night out. Maybe if they could get a single run home with 2nd and 3rd, 1 out in the previous inning the one mistake he made would not have been the game?

  71. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    No, absolutely no blame on Andy. If he had the ability to just “bear down” and not allow a run whenever he wanted to, his ERA would be 0.00. Pettitte’s approximately the 15776th reason the Yanks lost today, just behind the crowd taking out it’s frustration that their side isn’t in the Cup on the Yanks.

  72. pat June 5th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    “Yeah, lose the game with your best relief pitcher sitting in the bullpen. Smart.”

    What inning would you have first put him in? Instead of Park or instead of Gaudin?

  73. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    And I get ripped for being crizzazy! I never give up on this team, and I certainly aint gonna look too far into these 2 games.

  74. Uncle Ellsworth June 5th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    good grief I can’t wait for this boxing match to be over

  75. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Wow, blaming Andy?

    Uncle, I’m not listening – what’d Joe say?

    Tex will never cotton to tweaking his swing as his father taught him that.

  76. Canada's Health Care Strikes Again June 5th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    When will MLB start testing for HGH? Beat if they did the Blow Jays would be looking a lot different.

  77. RalphieD (OPPC) June 5th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    “Eerily similar to 2008, with the “give them time”, “they’ll turn it on”, “don’t worry, we’ve done it before”.

    Stop using last year’s stats as a bench mark for this year. New year. New players. New team. More brutal division.

    Just because we turned it on last year, doesn’t mean it will happen this year.”

    you really couldnt be anymore wrong here…THEY HAVE THE SECOND BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL….SECOND BEST…you make it sound like this team is 12 games out of first place…try 2 games…TWO

  78. Sam June 5th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Andy’s fault that this team can’t hit on the road or hit good pitching?

    If they don’t hit HRs, they are screwed. And before you blame Girardi, Gardner stole 2nd today. Grandy couldn’t drive him in.

    Unless Gardner or any of our hitters can steal 2nd, 3rd, home, there is no reason to run because we can’t hit with RISP. We have a better chance of hitting a 2-R HR than getting a base hit in that spot.

  79. Jim June 5th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Fatal, walking the leadoff hitter. Never a good idea. And on four pitches?

    I notice that fans are always quick to blame the manager… using hindsight. Maybe we could have someone analyze their decisions after the fact and see how that goes. If Chamberlain, or Marte, or Park had given up the winning run we would have had somebody whining that Girardi made the wrong decision having that guy pitching.

    That said, I agree with Betsy: it is high time to drop Tex in the batting order. Two months is long enough to have a black hole in the heart of the batting order. Can’t hit change-ups… did anybody know this 180 million dollars ago?

  80. bruceb June 5th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    For the second Saturday running, a terrible performance and crushing loss. Hate to say it but right now, the Yankees are probably the fourth best team in the AL East. Is Cashman ever going to wake up to the fact that this batting lineup is not strong enough when we come up against anyone who is half decent? It’s okay feasting on terrible teams at home but three runs in 23 innings against two kids? You’ve got to be kidding me. This is meant to be the World Series-winning New York Yankees.

  81. YES Man June 5th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    As a Yankee fan, I’m SHOCKED that Tex is/was leading 1st baseman in All-Star voting.

  82. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    “Tex will never cotton to tweaking his swing as his father taught him that.”

    Is “cotton” supposed to be there? I’ve never heard “cotton” used like that before.

    Is that just an English Major showing off?

  83. Uncle Ellsworth June 5th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Bets
    same old same old about Tex. My patience is wearing thin and that bothers me.

    “he had a good May”

    “cotton to” are you commenting from the Antebellum South?

  84. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Betsy

    My 5:51 question is for you!

  85. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Yep, cotton used in that way is correct…………not showing off at all, but I like using it, lol

  86. m June 5th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Question for the #s people. Are the Yankees the worst at scoring with RISP? Or does it seem that way? Other teams don’t seem to have problems getting the leadoff double home or with hitting a sac fly or rbi groundout.

    Just curious.

  87. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    LOL! LMAO! That’s great! Im going to start using “cotton to”! :)

  88. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Uncle, lol – no, I’m a Yankee Doodle Girl, but cotton used that way is correct.

    From dictionary.com:

    Verb phrase
    8.cotton (on) to, Informal.
    a.to become fond of; begin to like.
    b.to approve of; agree with: to cotton to a suggestion.
    c.to come to a full understanding of; grasp: More and more firms are cottoning on to the advantages of using computers.

  89. D-Train June 5th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    I can see the 08 comparisons with how inconsistent the offense was and how much it cost us games. That team had many, many games like today and were average on the road.

    Only difference is we got off to a blazing start this year. We were, what, 9 games over when we went to Anaheim in mid-April? That saved us a ton and has allowed us to struggle as much as we have since mid-May and still maintain our position.

  90. Rico June 5th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Putting Mariano in the game would have been pointless unless the team was holding a lead. The bottom line was RISP and lack of bringing them around.
    And yes to those that think No. 25 should bat lower in the order until he’s got his batting head on straight.

  91. Canada's Health Care Strikes Again June 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Blue Jays prove that there really is better living through chemistry… PED chemistry.

  92. Michelle June 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Tex shouldn’t talk about the team not hitting….how about talking about himself. He said he wasn’t seeing the ball today, its seems like he is never seeing the ball. Time to go to the eye doctor.

  93. Seth June 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Rays wilting again in the Texas heat.

  94. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Yanks overall: .286/.366/.452

    Yanks with RISP: .278/.372/.456

  95. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    TB on fox – coming back to earth in a hurry…

    TB is actually sinking faster than the yanks these days.
    their offense is beginning to show its faults.
    bj upton is still hitting for a very low average.
    pena is in total collapse (and killing my fantasy teams…)
    zobrist is not the player he teased he was last year.
    wade davis is a weak link.
    shields is not an ace.

    they are still a solid team, with a true ace-in-the-making in price, and a clear all star in longoria, but i definitely see them dropping below the yanks and sox.

  96. 4time June 5th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    The same Jays pen that gave up 10 runs in 2 innings of work to the Rays on consecutive days is shutting us down

    2-4 vs. Tampa (lost 2 heartbreaking games at home)
    1-5 vs. Boston (swept at home)
    1-5 vs. Angels (swept at home)

    2-0 vs. us (2-0 at home).

  97. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Uncle, and yet if we express frustration at Tex, some people are going to attack us for expressing that. It’s not early and he’s killing us – those are facts.

  98. Eric June 5th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Yeah… put Mariano in the game

    Then when we get the lead next inning, Chad Gaudin (with his 8 ERA) can try and close the game out!

    Stop trying to reinvent the wheel, people. Chad Gaudin was going to pitch at some point. Better to try and send the game to MO rather than to try and close out a 1-run lead.

  99. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Uncle/Betsy

    Dont let it get you down. Teixeira will turn things around. Believe.

  100. X June 5th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    It is not reinventing the wheel.
    You put your best pitchers in before your weakest.
    Saving your best pitcher in CASE you have the lead is counter productive.

  101. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    YES man,

    if tex has any sense of fairness, he will fake an injury and avoid the all star team, opening the door to the highly deserving morneau and cabrera.
    i’d like to think that generic is quite intelligent about his baseball, i just don’t understand who’s voting in droves for tex???

  102. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 June 5th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    So far Texas is still holding TB to 1 run. 6-1 Texas bottom of the 6th!

  103. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    * generic yankee fan*

  104. Terror Squad June 5th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Tex had a couple of good games to start May… hit those 3 HRs vs. Boston

    Dating back to the postseason last year (where he stunk), we have a 70+ game sample of him hitting under .200.

  105. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Kevin S,

    How do we compare to other teams?

    Struggling with RISP isn’t a new problem for the Yankees. They go through really bad stretches each year.

  106. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    “Then when we get the lead next inning, Chad Gaudin (with his 8 ERA) can try and close the game out!

    Stop trying to reinvent the wheel, people. Chad Gaudin was going to pitch at some point. Better to try and send the game to MO rather than to try and close out a 1-run lead.”

    Wrong.

    A) If the Yankees score in the next inning, Mo pitches 2 and Gaudin doesn’t see the light of day.
    B) The Yankees are not limited to only scoring one run.
    C) You don’t go down with your best gun still in its holster.

    Assuming Rivera was available and not overworked recently, he absolutely needs to be in that game (and probably should have been in there before Park). You manage to extend the game. Throwing your worst reliever does not accomplish that.

  107. Jon June 5th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Boston is the one taking advantage of Tampa’s slide, not us.

    Boston is going to pick up serious ground this week… it’s their turn to feast on the Orioles and Indians.

  108. JM June 5th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    I wouldn’t pitch Mo 2 innings in a game against Toronto in early June. Maybe that’s just me.

  109. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    m, I was just pointing out that they’re roughly the same relative to themselves. Not sure if B-R lets non-subscribers do split sorts.

  110. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Kevin S,

    It’s good that the Yankees can get on base so often, the frustrating part is that timely hitting is lacking!

  111. Yanks 21 June 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    So you want MO to pitch 2 innings in a June regular season game against Toronto?

    That strategy works in the postseason or big regular season games. If you put MO in the game, you commit to using him for 2 innings.

  112. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    AL average w/RISP is .258/.345/.399

  113. Uncle Ellsworth June 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    CR9, Betsy

    Tomorrow is a new day!

  114. St. Stephen June 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    For those of you looking to get their minds off the game (and the lineup) for a bit, check out this video of a 8-month-old baby born deaf hearing his mother’s voice for the first time:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=edd_1275075752

    Caution: watching this video is guaranteed to put you in a better mood.

  115. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Uncle

    Exactly!

  116. Tex needs a permanent vacation, on the DL June 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Gil L

    If Tex had ANY SENSE, he’d be great! He should seriously reconsider having children, with his retardation gene!!

  117. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    the whole gaudin-mo debate is irrelevant.
    the yanks were shut out for 9 innings! (6-14) – the equivalent of a complete game shut out.
    they were showing 0 signs of scoring.

  118. St. Stephen June 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    *an 8-month-old baby

  119. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    And the Yanks lead the AL in runs scored. The offense is not a problem, people.

  120. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Awww, Thanks St. Stephen. That is precious!!

  121. Joe June 5th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    If you use him for 2 innings, fine. Joe has stayed away from using him for more than 4 outs. I think MO only had 1 appearance last year of the two inning variety and that was in a tie game at home and MO had a easy 8 pitch 1st inning.

    But in a game like this, all you are doing it using MO to buy one inning to bridge him to a weaker reliever.

    Girardi is not using him for 2 innings in such a meaningless game, nor should he.

  122. Pepitone June 5th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Here are my two concerns so far:

    1. They have an offense that is good at home and anemic on the road. That has to change sometime, or they are going to have a rough go of it come August. On the other hand, the pitching looks real good so far.

    2. Teixeira. He is simply killing this team in the 3 hole. .215 for a #3 batter, are you kidding me?
    I don’t know what they can do with him. Send him down to work on it get his stroke back? Move him down in the lineup until he can get his stroke back? Just leave him where he’s at and hope and pray he comes out of it?

    I don’t know, maybe some of you that played upper level baseball could enlighten me on this. But, do you just leave a hitter like that in that position knowing he’s struggling, and getting worse, or do you move him down? Or something else?

    There’s still plenty of time this season’s just getting started, but Teixeira isn’t getting better, and that’s worrisome.

  123. Tex is a mess! June 5th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    What the hell are the fans thinking, voting him into the All Star game ahead of Morneau?
    He might be hitting .180 by then, only to embarrass the AL (with a loss) and the Yankees.

  124. pat June 5th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    m

    Don’t know where to find a complete list but looking up the AL East teams shows the Yankees are .278/ RISP and as a comparison the Red Sox are at .276, the Rays are at .275, Jays at .258 and O’s at .215

  125. Mark June 5th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Yanks always struggle in June

    Last year it was the Boston-Washington-Florida-Atlanta stretch
    08, we split a series at home with the Royals, lost series to the Mets, Pirates, Reds, Rangers,
    07 we went 1-5 on that Colorado/SF trip and went 2-4 against the Orioles and As following that trip.

    Just a tough patch. We turned it on last year, we will turn it on again this year. We will be fine. Tex will hit like the back of his baseball card too.

  126. morningstar June 5th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Many thanks to all the ledge-jumpers above. After watching a frustrating ending to the game, the pure stupidity and immaturity of your whining made me laugh. Now, please, go away and don’t come back. Red Sox Nation will welcome you home.

  127. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Okay, I guess we’re relatively better than other teams with RISP.

    But it’s not any less frustrating watching it!

  128. bruceb June 5th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Who the f*** cares what Tampa is doing. Doesn’t matter who wins or loses the way we’ve played the last two games.

  129. IA 8 June 5th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    The RISP stats are not very revealing

    How many of those come in close games? How many were ‘pile on’ runs like we had against the Indians?

    I don’t think stats need to tell us that we’ve struggled with RISP in close games and that has been the main reason for our mediocre play since mid-may. Look at those Tigers games, the Mets games, today, etc.

  130. the gay Yankee fan June 5th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    The solution is simple: you “rest” (a nicer way of saying benching him) Teixeira more often.

    Sit him 2-3 games a week until he snaps out of it. Right now even Ramiro Pena for example will give you more production than Tex.

  131. pat June 5th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “But it’s not any less frustrating watching it!”

    That grass is always greener thing is usually wrong when you’re a Yankee fan. :wink:

  132. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    Bruce, you do realize that even the ’98 Yankees had eleven losing streaks, right? The more appropriate statement is “who the f*** cares about two games?” Doesn’t change the fact that the Yanks have scored the most runs in the AL and have the fourth-best ERA. Every single stat you could reasonably look to paints New York and Tampa as the class of baseball.

  133. Scor June 5th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    “The solution is simple: you “rest” (a nicer way of saying benching him) Teixeira more often.

    Sit him 2-3 games a week until he snaps out of it. Right now even Ramiro Pena for example will give you more production than Tex.”

    That would be the perfect solution if Girardi/Cashman had the balls to do it. They don’t. They will continue to let him kill rallies and hit .200 batting 3rd.

  134. pat June 5th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    “How many of those come in close games? How many were ‘pile on’ runs like we had against the Indians?”

    I don’t know. I did the research the first time, your turn.

  135. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    I care what Tampa’s doing. I’d like NOT to slide behind them any further. It’s all relative, thus what they do is just as important as what we do. In 2008, they played better. So, if they stumble here in 2010, it’s a good thing.

  136. Haiku-man June 5th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    I’m sitting hear watching Randy Winn take his 1st at bat for the St Louis Cardinals, of course it was a strike out !!

    Texas 6 Tampa 1 top of 8th

  137. Walrus June 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Tampa losing benefits Boston because they are taking advantage of the slide of both teams.

    Boston was 8 games back before Joba imploded and will be only 2 games back after tonight They were 10 back of Tampa at that time too, right? Now they would be only 4 back of them as well.

    Tampa isin’t separating themselves, but we’re not getting any closer to them. Boston is the one inching closer to both teams.

  138. Jay June 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    STATS_MLB

    The #Yankees, who were 21-8 on the morning of May 9, are 13-14 since then after today’s loss to the #Blue Jays. #MLB

  139. Gil L June 5th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    i would definitely go with this line up until anything changes:
    jeter
    swish
    a-rod
    cano
    posada
    CG
    tex
    cervelli
    gardner

    a no.3 hitter who can’t hit or even make contact is a rally killer.

  140. Igawawang June 5th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Our eyes tell us all we need to know about our struggles with RISP. The stats can say what they want.

  141. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    By the way, for anybody who feels sabery, Fangraphs has the Yanks’ clutch rating as very slightly negative – close enough so that zero is well within any reasonable margin of error. Their performance doesn’t vary drastically by leverage.

  142. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Tampa benefits us, too. Because we’re not going to win every game, despite expectations to the contrary.

  143. CR9 June 5th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Time to try to enjoy the rest of the day!

    Enjoy your dinner tonight, Mel!

  144. scuff a licious June 5th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Tough loss…but we will begin to steam roll tomorrow.

  145. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    why can Winn still play in major league?

  146. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    The sooner they get Gaudin off the team the better.

  147. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    M, I agree with you…………and the Yankees cushion that they accumulated when they played well early in the year is rapidly disappearing. The Jays are not going away, IMO – and this series will just give them confidence – and the Sox are certainly not. I’m not suggesting they will blow by the Yankees, but yes – there has to be some concern there. The Sox have played very well for a long time. They comeback – and often -and are getting great pitching from Lester and Buchholz and good enough from Dice-K.

  148. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    “I wouldn’t pitch Mo 2 innings in a game against Toronto in early June. Maybe that’s just me.”

    No, it’s just not you. Too much baseball to be played then to extend Mo for 2 innings in Toronto.

  149. Joba Tips his Cap June 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    that ‘empire state mind’ is a horrible song.

    Rap is not music, piece of sh?t at best.

  150. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Oh geez, the doubters are crying about the sky falling again.

  151. Rico June 5th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Rangers beat Rays 6-1

  152. the gay Yankee fan June 5th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Seriously you people need to get a grip.

    Even if Boston overtakes us, what the hell do they win anyway? They would have won nothing because it’s only freaking June!

    It’s who’s playing better and on top on the last day of the season (and that’s still 4 months away.) that really matters.

  153. Pepitone June 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
    “I wouldn’t pitch Mo 2 innings in a game against Toronto in early June. Maybe that’s just me.”

    No, it’s just not you. Too much baseball to be played then to extend Mo for 2 innings in Toronto.
    =========================
    Absolutely agree. You don’t waste your top reliever in what is essentially a meaningless game in June.

    Girardi is doing the right thing.

  154. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Cool beans. We have 22 losses, but Tampa has 20. It’s all relative!

  155. pat June 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Go Game on Dude!

  156. gfd June 5th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Thank you Rangers all is well 6-1 whew!

  157. pat June 5th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    I lost. :sad:

  158. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    The Good:

    1) Andy Pettitte, and the starting staff

    2) Joba and his 97-98 FB

    3) The rest of the BP minus Gaudin

    4) GGBG

    5) Our overall record

    6)TB is gonna lose again

    The Bad :

    1) Gaudin walking the leadoff batter

    2) The Offense in general today

    The Ugly :

    1) Tex at the plate right now.

    Tex should be given a day off and then dropped in the order IMO.

    Actually it should have happened sooner.

  159. Igawawang June 5th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    “The sooner they get Gaudin off the team the better.”

    Agree. Can’t believe they brought him back. He sucks.

  160. Tom June 5th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    I buy into the lineup that Gil posted at 6:23 with Teixeira lowered to 7th in the order. It becomes either a wakeup call or takes the pressure off from hitting 3rd.

  161. Brent June 5th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Jays are a paper Tiger. They caught us at the right time when we’re not hitting.

    Their record vs. Tampa/Boston/LA speaks for itself. Against those teams at home, they are 1-8. At home!

    Boston is legit and might pass us sooner rather than later because of their easy schedule, but Toronto ain’t for real. They have no bullpen and a feast or famine offense.

  162. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    It’s time.

    If A-Rod can be dropped in the order then so can Tex.

  163. Terry from NH June 5th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Just got home from working all afternoon.. Ugly to see that Tex had an 0-6 with 5 K’s.. I am really concerned for him in the 3rd spot and since he’s never had a slump this long. He is god awful right now and making a ton of money.. How about Swisher there with Granderson 2nd?

  164. Timbo June 5th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Is Tex any less of a detriment batting 7th?

    The bottom of the order came up today many times with a chance to drive in a run with RISP and failed.

    As long as Tex is hitting like this, he is a detriment to the lineup, period. Can’t hide him anywhere. If they haven;t benched him by now, they won’t. Then they shouldn’t wonder why the lineup is underperforming. We essentially have Ramiro Pena hitting 3rd for us.

  165. Pat M. June 5th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    The loss of Aceves shows up again

  166. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    “Is Tex any less of a detriment batting 7th?”

    Yes. And if you can’t see the difference I’m not gonna try to explain it to you. ;)

  167. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    I thought Tex was going badly just looked at the Rays boxscore and Pena is batting .169

  168. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    By the the way.

    Those were 2 great catches by Swisher today. :)

  169. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Craw-

    Aaron Hill is below the Mendoza line and he won the game.

  170. Wall-to-Wall June 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Agree

    A-Rod batted 8th, Tex can certainly do the same.

    Big spots keep finding him and he keeps failing. And people wonder why we suck with RISP.

    2.5 months into a season… a change needs to be made.

  171. the gay Yankee fan June 5th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Pena is batting .169

    ——-

    He has too few at-bats. With so few at-bats, averages mean nothing. A base hit or two can swing avg up 20 points.

  172. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Tex won the Platinum Sombrero today.

    When starts mashing again (which he will) he’s gonna look back at that one and laugh. :)

  173. Terry from NH June 5th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    “Tex had a couple of good games to start May… hit those 3 HRs vs. Boston

    Dating back to the postseason last year (where he stunk), we have a 70+ game sample of him hitting under .200.’

    That is scary to comprehend. Ortiz had a beginning like that last year, but he had come out of it with power numbers, not average. Tex is regressing as the season goes.

  174. javier has ran out of excuses June 5th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Who didn’t know the game was over when Gaudin came in, be for real people!

    Who wants to hang their hopes on Javy tomorrow for the win? Who’s brave enough to be that stupid, c’mon who?

  175. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    So, we have several guys choking, but only AJ gets to be the poster boy? :?

  176. the gay Yankee fan June 5th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    The scary thing with Teixeira is not the lack of hits but just looking completely lost at the plate.

    It’s like he doesn’t even know how to hit anymore. It’s one thing to struggle but at least hitting the ball somewhere. For him, even putting a ball in play is challenge.

  177. m June 5th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Who thought we’d actually win the game every time we left men on base in extra innings? That kind of thing doesn’t usually work out for the road team.

  178. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    “He has too few at-bats. With so few at-bats, averages mean nothing. A base hit or two can swing avg up 20 points.”

    Carlos Pena of the Rays has over 221 at-bats. I’m not talking about our Pena.

  179. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) June 5th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    “Aaron Hill is below the Mendoza line and he won the game.”

    So did Tex last Sunday.

  180. JJ June 5th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Tex = Giambi?

    Remember, Giambi had a monster 1st season here too, then fell off…

  181. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Ninja Assassin June 5th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Just watch.

    The game will end in the first inning — the Red sox will score all the runs they will need.

  182. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Given that Javy goes against Brandon Morrow tomorrow, I feel reasonably confident.

  183. AJ Imploded big time! June 5th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    M
    Andy was great, they didn’t beat him. Aj said hit me with your best shot, and they fired away!

  184. m June 5th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Who’s talking about Andy? :?

  185. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    On the other hand.

    Can you all imagine what a shot in the arm it’s going to be when Tex
    hits his stride and hits .350 for 2 months straight. :)

    Or when CC gets on a roll and pitches to the tune of 2.0 ERA for a half dozen or so starts. :)

    Or when A-Rod starts hitting homers in bunches like he is capable of doing. :)

    Or how great it was to see Joba hitting 97-98 on the gun with good control. :)

    Need I continue ?

  186. pat June 5th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    “So, we have several guys choking, but only AJ gets to be the poster boy?”

    Where was AJ made the poster boy?

  187. GreenBeret7 June 5th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Wall-to-Wall June 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    Agree

    A-Rod batted 8th, Tex can certainly do the same.

    Big spots keep finding him and he keeps failing. And people wonder why we suck with RISP.

    2.5 months into a season… a change needs to be made.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Calendars are your friend. For instance, it can teach you that 5 days does not equal one half of a month.

  188. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    M must be referring to the picture Chad so lovingly posted last night, lol

  189. m June 5th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Yesterday. On the blog. By Chad. :(

  190. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    M, when he first posted it, I thought it was funny; I didn’t assume that Chad was trying to imply that AJ choked. If he was, then I have to ask why he hasn’t posted similar pics of other players. I’m not sure that’s what he meant, though.

  191. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    TB can’t beat good teams either. They lost 2 straight to Texas. Boston trashed them.

    Maybe they suck just like we suck.

    Or maybe these things just happen in the course of a long season, and nobody sucks ? ;)

  192. charlestonchew June 5th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    I don’t care how much Tex makes.

    He shouldn’t be batting third right now. He’s no help to ARod.

  193. Tom June 5th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    It’s one thing when a hitter hits bad luck with drives right at a fielder. Not the case with Teixeira. He just flails at virtually every pitch or weakly hits it to an infielder. Girardi has to make the move to drop him in the order with no delay – no excuses.

  194. Joe is playing scared June 5th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Cardindals tied 4-4 Brewers in the top of the 10th, and LaRussa has his closer in the game . What a closer in the game in the 10th? shhhhh don’t tell Joe.

  195. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Ninja Assassin June 5th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    Lester vs. the O’s

    Can you name a more lopsided matchup in history?

  196. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    Let me rephrase that.

    Some things just look like they suck but they don’t really.

    On the other hand, some things really do suck.

    Like Joe Worst

    Or Selig not reverseing Joyce’s call

    Or Youkilis’s face

    Or Matt Garza’s beard

    Or running out of beer on a hot day.

    Those things really suck.

    Being in 2nd place in the toughest division in baseball with the 2nd best record in early June doesn’t suck. Not at all. :)

  197. GreenBeret7 June 5th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    DJ Mitchell didn’t start out well at all with 9 straight pitches out of the strike zone. He gave up one single to score a run. 1-0 Trenton losing after 1 inning.

  198. pat June 5th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    YESKimJones Girardi says he’s not moving Tex. Tex says it was a bad day. Of the 5K, he said, “I’ve done it before.” In 2003.

  199. MTU (aka GBURL) June 5th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    I’ll tell you what also sucks.

    My incessant optimism, and me telling you what sucks.

    Maybe I just suck and the Yankees are fine. :)

  200. GreenBeret7 June 5th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    After 1 inning, no score between Scranton and Gwinett. Nova is pitching. 1 hit, 1 strikeout.

  201. Joba says they had good ABs June 5th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    “Lester vs. the O’s

    Can you name a more lopsided matchup in history?”

    ————-

    Yanks vs. a good pitcher on the road?

  202. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Big surprise from Joe………yes, I’d say Tex had a bad day

  203. Rusty June 5th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Regarding Carlos Pena. He’ll have to give the Rays a tremendous hometown discount to be retained and even that’s a stretch. It’s a given that the frugal Rays won’t sign Crawford and B.J. Upton is skating on thin ice to be dealt this winter as he finishes arbitration years.
    This is the year the Rays have to win big or they slowly revert back to the days of being also rans.
    They still have several good young players but they will lack a veteran presence.

  204. Pirate June 5th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Joe is too loyal to guys. He needs a mean streak in him like Torre had when he batted A-Rod 8th and benched Giambi when he was struggling.

  205. m June 5th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    I can understand Joe’s loyalty, and Tex has banked a lot of goodwill. Alex and Jeter have both gone through extended slumps, and have emerged.

    Hopefully K-Long can get through to Tex and have him make the proper adjustments.

  206. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 5th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Um, Joe Torre batting Alex 8th was completely mean-spirited and stupid and asinine.

  207. Haiku-man June 5th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Ha ha ha .Larussa was so sure the heart of the order was going to untie the game in the bot of the 10th (they didn’t,) that he sent his closer out in the top of the 10th. Now another pitcher has to get the hold or win.

  208. Kevin S. June 5th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Hard to kill the Rays for not retaining Carl Crawford when they have Desmond Jennings ready and waiting.

  209. SJ44 June 5th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Yeah, it worked out great batting Arod 8th in that series didn’t it?

    Go back to playing video games. Your real world baseball analysis is lacking.

  210. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 June 5th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Jeremy Guthrie is pitching good, with only 39 pitches, no runs after 3 innings.

  211. ron June 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    We are going to be fine.

    I just wish we can fix the dh mess & go back to having that nice offensive catching advantage that we had for years.

    Posada catching with a good dh lengthens the lineup.The problem now is with posada dh’ing we have no catcher that can produce & when posada catches soon we have no dh that scares anybody.

    How long has it been since that was the case?

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