From Rivera to Marte to Rivera
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 06, 2010 
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After Joe Girardi was ejected in the top of the eighth — more on that in a bit — the Yankees top decision maker became bench coach Tony Pena. And when it came time to make a pitching change with two outs in the bottom of the eighth, Pena called to the bullpen and asked for Mariano Rivera.
“We discussed it in the dugout,” Pena said. “But when I walked out of the dugout I just changed my mind and said I’m going to use Marte, so I asked for Marte.”
Pena said it was “my gut, my instinct” that caused him to change his mind. The bullpen, of course, didn’t know about this sudden change of plans and sent Rivera to the mound. When Rivera got there, Pena talked to the umpires and sent Rivera back.
“I don’t know what happened. I know I was ready,” Rivera said. “I think it worked out. You guys had your laugh, and we won the game.”
From his place in the clubhouse, Girardi was as confused as anyone — “Whatever it is, it worked,” he said — but Girardi was not confused when he went to the plate to argue after Nick Swisher’s strikeout. He said he knew he was going to be thrown out as soon as he left the dugout. He didn’t even bring his cap with him. There had been a lot of borderline strikes, and Girardi believed Swisher had checked his swing. Home plate umpire Bruce Dreckman said he went around.
“I threw my hat when he called it, and I didn’t go back to get it,” Girardi said. “Sure I can (argue and not get ejected), but did you think I was going to when I went out?”
Associated Press photo of the vein in Girardi’s neck. Also in the photo, Girardi and Dreckman.
Good move by Pena. Marte looked dominant. That strike three call on Swisher was an absolute joke.
home ump sucks
That’s a bit embarrassing for Pena, but I like that he went with his gut and didn’t put Mo in when he didn’t think it was the right thing.
Good for Joe………
lol, I was following on the touch. Last I saw “Mariano Rivera replaces Joba Chamberlain”, so I just as-sumed that Mo got the last 4 outs.
Texas got back a couple of runs, but they seemed determined to give them right back.
Let’s go, Markakis.
O’s win
O’s win!
I didn’t agree with a single one of Swisher’s called third strikes, for that matter. And yes, Marte was terrific against Lind, he had no chance.
YAY Baltimore
yankswin27 June 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
I didn’t agree with a single one of Swisher’s called third strikes
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Neither did Swisher.
Orioles win.
Fourth extra inning win against the Sox this year.
They also lead the season series 5-4.
This for the crybabies who fixate daily on here about the Red Sox.
Yes! O’s end their losing streak. Markakis with the walk-off. Okajima gets the loss. And the Yankees pick up a game.
Okay, he just said his name. Gary Thorn. Sounds like a NESN guy.
That should be the O’s only win for the next 7 days.
WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO
SCREW BOSTON!!!!
THIS IS THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY WEEKEND!!!!
Okijeemer fails to get out of the Okijammer.
Joy in the world!
Citoball and Titoball sink lower.
Let’s go Rangers.
All we need is a Lakers win tonight and this will be the perfect day.
m
I think the guy on MASN you refered to is Gary Thorne.
informed leaguer June 6th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Erica in NY tells the truth as always in her 5:49 p.m. post. “informed leaguer” hopes Erica in NY had a great day at the beach and protected herself with sunscreen.
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LOL. Thanks. Sadly, there wasn’t much sun to protect myself from. It turned out to be a shorter day than planned
Markakis is hot AND clutch!!
Joba says they had good ABs June 6th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
All we need is a Lakers win tonight and this will be the perfect day.
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I’m sorry you won’t have a perfect day.
86w183 June 6th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
As long as Girardi didn’t talk about signjng LeBron he’ll be fine.
“MLB knows managers who are ejected keep running the game. The umps just don’t have to look at or listen to them any more.”
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That is not true.
MLB Rule Book
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4.07 When a manager, player, coach or trainer is ejected from a game, he shall leave the field immediately and take no further part in that game. He shall remain in the club house or change to street clothes and either leave the park or take a seat in the grandstand well removed from the vicinity of his team’s bench or bullpen.
Is Baltimore the emerald city? Or is that San Francisco?
What do they call Baltimore? I remember driving through and one of their benches said “Welcome to Baltimore, the ____ city”
Trying to remember what it was. Bay city?
my,
Yes, just couldn’t hear the silent ‘e’. Who’s the guy I’m mixing him up with? Remy?
The 4th place team in the AL East has more wins than the AL West division leader and the same amount of wins as every other division leader in baseball.
It’s a rule that’s never enforced.
Much ado about nothing.
That’s sweet – glad someone finally cooled off the Sox.
Chad
I would love to know what Marte said to Cerevelli when he came in to pitch. He seemed animated to me.
Lakers will win tonight and win the series in 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!at the most 6!!!!!!!!!!!
Seattle is the Emerald City.
Baltimore is the Charm City.
m
I’m not sure. After awhile they all start to sound alike.
“It’s a rule that’s never enforced.”
You are right, I’ll drop it.
Impossible. I refuse to believe it. O’s beat the red sucks?
“I would love to know what Marte said to Cerevelli when he came in to pitch.”
Marte: “What CC said!”
Charm city
Was Bobby Valentine ever actually formally reprimanded for the time he snuck back into the dugout after being ejected wearing costume glas-ses?
Or just highly ridiculed?
Do we still hate Javier Vazquez?
So it seems that Betsy’s “worrying” about getting Javy back on track was well warranted.
With how tough this division is, posts that the Yankees don’t need Javy, should dump him to some NL team, or that he should be replaced by Mitre look rather silly now.
One bad turn through the rotation in this division and you could suddenly end up in 4th place.
Can’t be punting any spots 1-5 this year.
It looks like maybe the Angels knew what they were doing by not signing Lackey.
LGY, I have to say that none of this surprises me; I knew the East would be a beast this year – it’s going to remain this way for awhile.
We’re now starting to see articles on how good the pitching is in this division. Just this year alone, 3 of the best pitchers in baseball have been Price, Hughes and Buchholz. Then you have Romero and Marcum………….crazy good young pitching in the East.
I know what you mean. They all sound like Boston homers.
This guy Thorne says, “And that just misses” on a pitch quite obviously low from a Boston pitcher.
I know they’re watching it live. Do play by play guys also watch a monitor? Cuz some things are low, and don’t ‘just ‘ miss.
“Was Bobby Valentine ever actually formally reprimanded…?”
Yes, he was deported.
For all the bridge jumpers,
Boston and Yanks are both 4-2 in their last 6 games. They gained 0 games on us in the last 6 games.
Tampa, by the end of the day, would have lost either 1 or 2 games of their lead to us in the last 6 (2-4 or 3-3).
Seems like the panic was much ado about nothing. Had a frustrating weekend, but came out of it unscathed. and Javy pitched well.
LGY, people just don’t like to acknowledge that anything is “wrong” with the Yankees. I’m sure occasionally I overreact, but being concerned about Javy was not one of those. Those saying we didn’t need him were crazy, I’m sorry. Now, the Sox have a top heavy rotation with Lester and Buchholz, but Dice K hasn’t been awful (he’s a good #4 or #5) and Lackey should be better. If Josh is healthy, when he gets healthy, he’ll be good I think. The Rays rotation is by far the best………..
Why doesn’t every city have a nickname?
What about Dallas? Phoenix? Miami? Kansas City?
Francona used Papelbon for the 9th inning,big mistake!
TB-5 Tex 4 top of the 8th.
Nick in SF June 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
“Was Bobby Valentine ever actually formally reprimanded…?”
Yes, he was deported.
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LOL
I just re-watched Marte vs Lind. FB-K, slider-B, slider-K, slider-K. It seemed Lind was sitting on the offspeed pitch and still couldn’t hit it. Nice job by Marte.
Ublados scoreless streak is ova
So many good pitchers under age of 26 in the East
Hughes
Joba
Buchholz
Lester
Romero
Marcum
Price
Garza
Niemenn
Imagine if Halladay was still with the Jays? Yikes.
Bret the Hitman June 6th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Do we still hate Javier Vazquez?
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I’ve never hated Javy. I was thrilled for him today.
I love Javy. The Yankees him also. Mo said stop with the booing BS.
The Rays rotation is coming back to Earth.
I bet the Yankees rotation finishes the year with better numbers.
Betsy
Dice-K is too inconsistant to be considered good & Beckett has been having trouble staying healthy the last few years.
The Yankees love*** him also
This is so cute-love Posada’s expression
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....?q=Yankees
Hughes-Millwood
Sabathia-Tillman
Burnett-Guthrie
Are the matchups.
“Do we still hate Javier Vazquez?”
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not everyone on this blog hated Vazquez.
are a few intelligent people, on the board
Nick
You are killing me.
Are you sure we can’t go back and peak at the game thread (all in the name of good fun, of course). 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06.....=1&hp
This is a fantastic article about the players who were selected above Jeter in the draft…….
“Why doesn’t every city have a nickname?”
Most do.
Dallas = The Lone Gunman City
Phoenix = The But It’s A Dry Heat City
Miami = The 5.0 With My Rag Top Down Town
Kansas City = Fountainville.
This Rangers announcer not feeling the Rays 51 games into the season, still in wait and see mode: “They’re going to need more offense to stay ahead of the Yankees and Red Sox.”
Not an unreasonable opinion.
Joba doesn’t belong on that list………
SJ, remember how he shortsighted people here were ready to give up the division title to the TB Rays the last time the played the Yankees back in May!
:lo:
Nick man you’re killing me today lol
“The 4th place team in the AL East has more wins than the AL West division leader and the same amount of wins as every other division leader in baseball.”
How crazy is that?!? I would love to see how this season would play out without an unbalanced schedule. Just having baseball’s two best teams together is unfair enough, not to mention the ridiculous quality of the top four teams.
Maine, that’s why he’s a #4 or #5 (and by the way, if the Yanks had signed him, they’d have been lambasted for how it turned out. The Sox? No one cares that they spent all that $$$ for a mediocrity).
m June 6th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
This Rangers announcer not feeling the Rays 51 games into the season, still in wait and see mode: “They’re going to need more offense to stay ahead of the Yankees and Red Sox.”
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I’m starting to dread when the Yankees go down to Texas-I can’t stand listening to that guy. His voice gives me a headache. lol
Tampa’s rotation falling back a bit was inevitable..no staff could keep up that pace, especially one as young as theirs is. T
They still have a really good rotation but their amazing start was largely a result of that unsustainable starting pitching and the Yanks have hung right with them the whole time.
With the exception of a few unnamed posters this blog has returned to normal.
It’s kind of annoying to face a team you just faced less than a week ago………..
SJ, I have to look at the #s for the Rays. I expect Price and Garza to keep it up, though…..
Anaheim (or thereabouts): Birthplace of Young Master Phil
Hello folks
Oops, correction: Mission Viejo, CA
gah! TB plates 2. Aggressive basestealing enhancing their offense.
I think the pitching will fall off. We knew their start (as well as the Yankees’) was unsustainable.
They were the 1998 Yankees! lol
Buster Olney said so, it had to be true!
Tampa, Boston and Toronto have played as well as they can play in the past month.
Two of those teams still trail the Yankees and Tampa is only 2 games ahead of the Yankees.
The Yankees haven’t even played their best baseball yet.
To me, that bodes well for the Yankees.
Thanks Carl and Tarheelyank… once through the game thread was enough for me today, and I should be on my way anyway.
Enjoy your Sunday evenings.
Go [name of basketball team redacted]!
True, Blake.
Javy rounding into form is huge because Phil has innings limits (not severe, but still) and I would imagine he’d hit a bump in the road due to fatigue or just usual growing pains. This is why Javy was signed or, at least, it’s part of why he was signed – to provide something of a cushion for the kid.
SJ44 also once infamously predicted that I would have faded into oblivion by June.
“Dice-K is too inconsistant to be considered good & Beckett has been having trouble staying healthy the last few years.”
I’m really glad it’s Boston that has Dice-K/Beckett/Lackey signed to long-term contracts and not the Yankees. It seems like there are questions about any pitcher, but these three have looked rather suspect over the last couple of years.
The Rays rotation is by far the best………..
=======================I dunno Betsy, our starting 5 are pretty darn good.
And what has TB ever won? No one on their staff has the wiinning pedigree of Andy. And now that CC, AJ and Phil have won one, that’s an advantage.
SJ, that’s true……..at some point, though the Sox are very good, they’ll start to cool off a little bit (hopefully). The Yankees really need Tex, though. .210 is beyond awful, lol.
Hey, the Rangers did more than I could have hoped for so if they lose, so be it.
Nick
I hope you are wise enough to put some green on the Green tonight.
SJ
Couldn’t have said it better. Also, Don’t even respond t6o AJAX, until he posts in his own screename, don’t even give him the benfit of a response.
Mick, I exaggerated to be honest. The reason I said that is because as much as I love AJ, he’s just sort of a guy who will pitch to a 4.00 ERA; that is, he is who he is (which is fine). The Rays didn’t win the WS, but they are not an inexperienced bunch – they did go to the WS. I’m not giving up the division like Brandon Tierney is, by any stretch of the imagination; I just don’t believe it’s a given the Yankees will win it. IMO, this will be a dogfight all year.
No! Put some gold on the purple and gold. j/k. I wouldn’t want to be responsible for any wallet-lightening.
Betsy,
You are too caught up in Hughes’ innings limits.
It’s not even an issue.
Right now, if he got skipped one time before and after the ASB, he would end up under the limit.
It won’t have any impact over the course of the season.
They have five starters capable of working into the 7th inning almost every start.
You have that, it’s a dominant rotation with a rested and ready bullpen to boot.
That’s how you make the playoffs.
m
I suspect we’ll see a better game tonight.
The Rays didn’t win the WS, but they are not an inexperienced bunch – they did go to the WS.
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Yes Betsy but who in today’s staff went to that WS? Have to look that up.
SJ, all things considered, who would get the 4th start in post season, Phil or Javy?
Phil back to pen or the better choice of the two depending on the matchup?
Phil at about 1/3 of his limit of 180 in about 1/3 of the season. Looks on time…Joba had 150 inng limit i think.
SJ, maybe you’re right….also, I think I read the Yankees are looking at the stress (or lack thereof) of the innings instead of just the innings themselves. That would be good; Phil hasn’t had that many stressful innings this year, lol. One poster on a Fantasy message board said that his arm is going to fall off next year from pitching more than he ever has (assuming like what happened to Verlander/Porcello)…………Didn’t Verlander have a HUGE innings jump?
Mick, I will do that – but I guess the answer is not many, lol. The Yankees will have plenty of chances to prove their superiority to the Rays and Sox (I’ll leave out the Jays for now) so in that sense, it’s not a worry. The only time to worry is if the situation were out of their hands – but it’s not.
betsy,
Javys improvement is big. It takes a little pressure off everyone if he can keep it up.
still down a bit in velocity but as I argued the other day, with his secondary pitches if he stays on top and locates well then he can still be very effective as shown today and really over his last few starts.
MY,
Oh, definitely. 13 points or 1. Doesn’t matter to me. I know it will be a long series, but getting the first 2 is imperative for us.
On the Jays’ feed, Buck Martinez was insistent that the reason Mariano was sent back to the pen was that Cito Gaston had alertly seen Pena raise his left arm, which, Martinez said, meant the Yanks were compelled to bring in a lefthander, even though Pena really wanted Rivera.
Made absolutely no sense. Obviously Cito came out when Pena told the umps he really wanted Marte and Rivera turned around.
Also, that’s very true about the starters going into the 7th – even my beloved, at times frustrating AJ is very capable. Javy’s rebound is just huge for his team. I can’t wait for CC to hit his stride……..
If you look at the rosters of all the teams in the AL East I can say fairly comfortably that on paper the Yankees have the best team.
The Yankees and Rays are on a higher level in terms of roster construction than Boston and Toronto.
But the thing that should separate the Yankees is their offense. The Rays have the pitching to match up with the Yankees, but they do not have the 1-9 to match up with the Yankees over the course of the season.
That said, baseball is of course not played on paper.
An injury here or there, run into a rough stretch at the wrong time, run into hot team/s on the “easy” part of your schedule, etc. and having a better roster does not matter much.
The Rays seem to have had many of these things on their side so far, while the Yankees have hung in there quite a bit through some tough times. That should change at some point.
It took Mariano just 5 pitches to close the 9th a record for him, I think he was very MOtivated !!
TEX like bos and Jays must be tired too they’re losing! 8-4
Blake, absolutely – and it helps the pen as well because they aren’t being overused.
If umpires really cared so much about absolutely getting the call right you would think on a check swing, especially one like swisher’s today, they would check with the ump down the line. Doesnt make any sense, and I never got why home plate umpires feel the need to make that call themselves.
I’m not worried about Javy’s velocity because pitchers have succeeded without throwing hard. I hope he regains it, but if not, at least he’s made the adjustment – not everyone can.
Phoenix area is the Sonoran Valley…the name of the desert
mick,
Too early to say. I’d have to see the matchups and who is pitching better between the two.
With the way Hughes is throwing right now, he’s the Game 2 starter between CC and Andy if the season ended today, IMO.
The updates just had a big check swing snafu. Not sure who it benefited, but Berkman ended up with the game winning hit.
SJ mentioned that the umps have been bad the last 3 seasons. We saw they were bad last year, and unbelievably it’s gotten worse.
The question is, why doesn’t Selig do anything about it? It’s ruining the game, and it will definitely turn off some of the fans.
Currently, 4 out of the 5 best records in the AL belong to the AL east….pretty tough league.
Did anyone see what Mike Lupica wrote in his most recent article re: AG perfect game that wasn’t.
He said that Don Larsen’s perfect game ended on a cheap strike 3 call.
I no longer even care much what the media has to say, but I was unfortunately referred to that line by a so-called friend who was just trying to get me angry!!
With the way Hughes is throwing right now, he’s the Game 2 starter between CC and Andy if the season ended today, IMO.
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Interesting.
That could leave AJ or Javy for the 4th start.
True enough, you would have to wait and see the matchups and if a 4th guy is even needed.
LGY
The Yankees really improve the lineup getting Posada back to hit after Cano. A hitter teams have to respect.
m
Selig supports the umps who are scared of the technology that would infringe on their job security.
The Yankees don’t meet up with the Rays again until the 1st series after the All Star break for a 3-game series at the Stadium.
Much can happen between now and then.
I really hope Javy gets to the point where he can be trusted for a Game 4 in the playoffs, since his issues out of the stretch leave him ill-suited for a bullpen role (ownage of Youk notwithstanding). Obviously Hughes’ innings concerns make him a candidate to return, though that could be tough to swallow if he’s still pitching this brilliantly, and I’ve always felt AJ’s stuff would play up really well out of the pen.
I don’t understand how Yankee fans are so insecure.
We haven’t even started hitting yet.
We have had more injuries than the other 3 teams.
Yet we are right there.
It’s a long season.
They claim to have rating systems, but I think they’re used for incentives.
So what other blogs have you all gone to?
We should just construct the AL all-star team out of AL East players.
1B Youkilis
2B Cano
SS Jeter
3B Longoria
C Posada
LF Crawford
CF Wells
RF Swisher
Pitchers: Hughes, Pettitte, Buchholz, Lester, Price, Neimann, Romero, Marcum, Rivera, Bard Papelbon, Soriano
On the bench you have Teixeira, Gonzalez, Wigginton, Pedroia, Arod, Markakis, Victor Martinez, and Gardner
Who needs the AL Central or West? This team can beat the NL!
A purist like a Costas would never be allowed to be Commish.
Probably another owner appointed owner to protect their interests vs the union.
Too bad for baseball.
Mauer and Morneau
Hughes and Javy are going to battle it out at being the 4th starter in the postseason. No way Hughes pitches game 2. Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte might be in a different order but they will pitch the first three games. Hughes was dominant last year in the regular season but than pitched like a gutless coward in the postseason. Joba and Marte passed him in the bullpen pecking order. Hughes has a lot to prove still.
LOL Hughes couldn’t even get Nick Punto out in the postseason.
I think ideally the Yankees would like to have Javy pitch as the 4th starter in the playoffs so that Hughes can bolster the bullpen. If they get to the WS, Vazquez is an excellent #4 starter against any NL lineup.
new post
mick -
It would be nice if the next commissioner didn’t have blatant ties to either ownership or players.
I haven’t gone to any other blogs, just for the record.
m -
Well, apparently they’re not using the rating system to get better umpiring.
RS
Morneau is having a better year than “Kevin Useless,” and Mauer is a sure bet too.
I hope Tex gets sick, rather than embarrass the AL, or more importantly the Yankees.
doreen
it seems kinda dead in here lately, could it be that without friction this blog is just not as interesting?
“This is a fantastic article about the players who were selected above Jeter in the draft…….”
I remember that draft well. The yankees hadn’t had first round draft picks for much of the latter part of the 1980′s so in 1992 it still felt like a novelty for the yanks to have a first round draft pick – especially a top 10 pick. That was such a low point for the franchise, those years. I’d started following the draft a couple of year before then with Brien Taylor.
That year the big talent was Jeffrey Hammonds an outfielder out of Stanford. Hammonds was considered to have a huge ceiling and be a five tool kind of guy, with plus speed and good power. He was being compared to Rickey Henderson and Barry Bonds. He was generally thought of as a big time talent and a near “can’t miss.”
But the question with Hammonds was whether he would price himself out of being the first pick. The Astros had the top pick and as draft day approached it seemed like they were going to pass on Hammonds over price. They wound up selecting Phil Nevin, who went on to have a kind of roller coaster career going from #1 pick, to complete “bust,” and then kind of resurrecting himself as a jack of all trades kind of player, even learning how to catch. #1 pick as a power hitting 3b, to needing to learn how to catch to stay in the game. Remarkable how difficult it is to make it in the bigs.
Nevin was never particularly good but I always gave him a lot of credit. The Astros basically gave up on him and he really did look like he wasn’t going to amount to much. At the same time Hammonds made it to the bigs very quickly. But Nevin hung in there, found a niche and made a career for himself when all of it looked like it might slip away and amount to nothing.
I was really hoping that Hammond would fall to the yanks at #6 but it seemed very unlikely that a talent like that would make it out of the top 5, regardless of price. Early on there were leaks saying that the yankees were looking to draft a catcher and that they really liked Charles Johnson. He was a reach at 6 but the yankees wanted a catcher.
There was some talk about them possibly taking a high school SS out of michigan. It seemed kind of odd given that a lot of the emphasis was on college players at the top of the draft and the yankees were just so bad. Taking a risk on a high school SS? The position that repeatedly disappoints with high first rounders? I didn’t really think they were going to take him. It seemed like a rumor.
Hammonds fell but didn’t make it to 6. The orioles took him at 4. Hammonds went on to play for a long time but wasn’t much more than a mediocre LF. He never fulfilled his potential or his tools. He’s the kind of guy fans write off because he never lived up to the billing. But he made a professional career for himself.
Then the yankees passed on Johnson, didn’t take a catcher and instead took Jeter at 6. I was a bit disappointed because I figured it would be years and years before he could help the club and SS were such a risk. I kind of just filed him away. And then he was terrible in the minors in low A…
As time went on, we learned that the yanks loved Jeter pretty much from the start and they were on him the whole time. Charles Johnson was just a smoke screen ( though he did go on to have a good career behind the plate.)
And then there’s Jeter who keeps on performing at an all star level all these years and all these world series later.
Pick #6. I was a bit disappointed at the time. He wasn’t Jeffrey Hammonds.
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