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Swish in the 2
Why?
boy that draft is something special, names we don’t know and mostly like will never know – go yankees – do not worry about kids hoping to be yankees !
Ben Gamel, of, Bishop Kenny HS, Neptune Beach, Fla.
Like his older brother Mat, who plays third base for the Brewers, Gamel shows good hitting ability and some power for his size. Listed at 5-foot-11 and 170 pounds, he’s not as big as Mat yet, but has a very good understanding of the strike zone and displayed good athleticism with a 6.90-second 60-yard dash at the event. He is committed to Florida State.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1343
Posada DH again?
boy, he’s not 100%
Carl,
What’s wrong with Swisher there?
Oh, I see! You’re mocking the lineup complainers. Good one!
Go, Phil Huuughes. Throw a no-hitter and maybe you’ll get a mention on espn or mlb network!
I win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joba Tips his Cap June 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Posada DH again?
boy, he?s not 100%
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The Yankees said they were not rushing to clear Posada to catch
I don’t think so, M- not with Strasburg pitching tonight!
With this lineup Phil is going to have to throw a no…oh, nevermind.
i think i won to!
Erica, u win again, congrats!
A warning for the regulars tonight…..
Expect a real influx of trolls and morons. Especially if the Yankees have the nerve to fall behind or lose tonight.
They are all “fired up” from the draft.
Add to it a series they expect the Yankees to win by 15 runs every night, I would expect a heavy night of trolling and idiocy in here this evening.
Hope I’m wrong.
posada wont be cleared to catch til the end of next week at best…
and why noy swish in the 2 hole? is there actually an argument against it?
Excited about this game tonight.
I wasn’t really home to watch the games this weekend (listening on the radio isn’t the same). I feel like its been ages since I have watched a game
# m June 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Carl,
What’s wrong with Swisher there?
Oh, I see! You’re mocking the lineup complainers. Good one!
Go, Phil Huuughes. Throw a no-hitter and maybe you’ll get a mention on espn or mlb network!
No I actually love Curtis in the 2 spot
Tonight is the night Tex turns it around.
Jeter is cooked. Get Culver in there. What is Joe thinking?
Is this a good analogy ?
Brandon Laird is to Gerald Laird
as
Luke Murton is to Matt Murton
as
Austin Romine is to Kevin Romine
as
Ben Gamel is to Matt Gamel
I am guessing there are a lot of winners today…thanks Girardi
I like this draft philosphy-throw a bunch of extremely athletic kids against the wall and hope a couple of them stick.
From BA:
Florida State’s signing class has several of the state’s top bats. Neptune Beach’s Ben Gamel is the younger brother of Brewers big leaguer Mat and has similar hitting tools as his brother. The 5-foot-11, 170-pound Gamel isn’t toolsy, as he’s just an average runner with a fringy arm and modest home run power with wood bats. But he has a compact, fluid stroke from the left side, one of the purest swings in the state, and could challenge the .400 mark at Florida State’s Dick Howser Stadium, which is built for lefthanded hitters. Scouts laud Gamel’s grinder makeup, and it’s conceivable that his bat and makeup could push him into the first five rounds.
Like the lineup actually matters. If Hughes pitches a good game they will score enough runs to win easily. If not, it’s close. Do some of you really think moving a couple of hitters around actually makes much of a difference?
SJ-
I have my Garlic, Silver bullets, Cross and love of the Lord to protect me.
SJ44′s probably correct. Sad.
I’ll have my garlic and crucifix ready, just in case.
The Nats have Strasburg batting 9th? I thought this guy was good?
Tex at 3rd base? The 180 million dollar bust sucks, send him to AAA to regain his swing. Or better yet, Mexico.
Posada not catching? That bum, we’re not paying him to DH. He must be lazy. Then again, Cervelli’s CERA is better, so he should be the full-time catcher.
Swisher struck out last game, he shouldn’t be the #2 hitter. Randy Winn hit a sacfly yesterday, Cashfail shouldn’t have released him!111!!!11
On top of that, we had a horrible draft! BA and ESPN didn’t approve of our picks, so they must therefore suck! FIRE CASHMAN!
/trollisms
Carl,
That’s what I thought…
You can argue either way…but you can’t argue about who fills out the lineup card.
LGY June 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Jeter is cooked. Get Culver in there. What is Joe thinking?
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LOL…
I am going to write in Culver for the ASG!
Laura
I got the Tex vibe on Sunday so hopefully you are right and I was just a few days off.
Sounds like Gamel is a born DH, like his brother.
Laura – What happened happened! June 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Tonight is the night Tex turns it around.
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He is playing in his home town so he should be comfortable.
If he doesn’t hit in Baltimore then the Yankee fans will be throwing baseball cards on the field when they play at home Friday.
Fridge June 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
“Garbage signing they could of picked him in the later rounds. Yanks had a real bad draft. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!”
I’m no Cashman fan, but I blame Hal for this awful draft.
Boston picks up a ton of big-time, signability guys and we take a guy who Baseball America ranked 168th in the 1st round and the rest of the awfulness of this draft.
If Hal gave Cash some $$, I have to figure he would have nabbed the high-ceiling guys that Boston did. Henry apparently wants to restock the farm in a big way. Hal is content.
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Cashman has the biggest payroll to work with in the sport. I dont think you can blame ownership. It took him 450 million last offseason to fix his mistakes. The guy is a horrible gm.
Anyone else going? I will be there for all three games, section 46 tonight, 348 tomorrow, and 42 on Thursday.
And if that doesn’t work the “cloaking device”, photon torpedoes, and full phaser banks are at the ready.
i liked it better when the yanks used their first pick on high ceiling atheletes like bo jackson, john elway and billy cannon
Someone (Olney?) was on the radio late the other night. He was asked if it’s time to start worrying about Tex. He said no, not yet. But it will be if teams continue to pitch him the way they have been. He’s really struggling with the offspeed stuff low.
# XLJ June 8th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Fridge June 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
“Garbage signing they could of picked him in the later rounds. Yanks had a real bad draft. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!”
I’m no Cashman fan, but I blame Hal for this awful draft.
Boston picks up a ton of big-time, signability guys and we take a guy who Baseball America ranked 168th in the 1st round and the rest of the awfulness of this draft.
If Hal gave Cash some $$, I have to figure he would have nabbed the high-ceiling guys that Boston did. Henry apparently wants to restock the farm in a big way. Hal is content.
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Cashman has the biggest payroll to work with in the sport. I dont think you can blame ownership. It took him 450 million last offseason to fix his mistakes. The guy is a horrible gm.
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Damn, you really like talking to yourself.
Anyone else going? I will be there for all three games, section 46 tonight, 348 tomorrow, and 42 on Thursday.
I’ll be there on Thursday…tomorrow may be a wash out.
vblade
you are forgetting the “why don’t we still have Damon/Sui/AJax/Hinske/Hairston etc etc”
He talks to himself in three different SN’s.
He considers that multi-tasking! lol
# SJ44 June 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
He talks to himself in three different SN’s.
He considers that multi-tasking! lol
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Having to make up SN’s to agree with yourself is just about the most pathetic sight I’ve seen lol.
# m June 8th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Carl,
That’s what I thought…
You can argue either way…but you can’t argue about who fills out the lineup card.
Oh no the lineup is deep. Just put Curtis number 2
The Yankees need a QB, and all they draft is defensive linemen and corner backs? I don’t get it.
# upstate kate June 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
vblade
you are forgetting the “why don’t we still have Damon/Sui/AJax/Hinske/Hairston etc etc”
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Also the “Why did we trade the next Barry Bonds Austin Jackson” crowd. Hilarious stuff.
Zach Varce:
Portland JR RHP: 88-91 FB, peak of 93-95; plus 76-78 SL that moves like a cutter; very good CB; usable low-80s splitter; superior command
upstate kate June 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
vblade
you are forgetting the ?why don?t we still have Damon/Sui/AJax/Hinske/Hairston etc etc?
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In defense of trolls- I ask myself part of that question all of the time and I am certainly not troll.
Here’s a hint. Its not Jerry Hairston Jr I miss
pat June 8th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
The Nats have Strasburg batting 9th? I thought this guy was good?
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classic
“Someone (Olney?) was on the radio late the other night. He was asked if it?s time to start worrying about Tex. He said no, not yet. ”
I agree. I think I’ll start to be concerned if he’s still struggling in July.
I have no idea why yankee fans are so focused on the red sox draft. The Rays year in and out draft much better than the Sox do.
If you want to get worked up about another division rival excelling at the draft it’s the Rays – not the Sox that you should be panicking about.
It’s quite remarkable how much attention the Red Sox draft gets every year when Tampa consistently produces much better results than anyone else in the AL, perhaps in all of baseball. And it shows – the Rays system blows the doors off the Sox system.
go Yankees, go Lakers (weak tone) !
I wonder how Sybill would do here on the blog? You know, with the multiple personalities.
Erica
you should notice I put him first, I miss him too!
however, you do not rant over and over about it
“Here?s a hint. Its not Jerry Hairston Jr I miss”
Actually, watching Winn and Thames made me miss Hairston. LOL!
“And it shows – the Rays system blows the doors off the Sox system.”
Blows the doors off the Yankees’ too.
# Yeah, but… June 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
“And it shows – the Rays system blows the doors off the Sox system.”
Blows the doors off the Yankees’ too.
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The Yankees didn’t have 10 years worth of #1 overall picks.
I’m happy for Austin Jackson.
But I’m also happy that we have Gardner, Granderson, and Swisher.
Looking at Jackson v. Gardner, very similar seasons. That’s amazing for Jackson, who’s a true rookie. Still can’t believe Gardner has 3 HR. And wouldn’t be surprised if it stayed 3 HR.
Jackson has 61K in 228 at-bats. Gardner has 30 in 190. AJ has 8/1 SB/CS ratio. Gardner has 20/4.
Anyway, happy for Jackson. But also happy for Gardner, who’s having a nice season so far.
# Erica in NY June 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
upstate kate June 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
vblade
you are forgetting the ?why don?t we still have Damon/Sui/AJax/Hinske/Hairston etc etc?
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In defense of trolls- I ask myself part of that question all of the time and I am certainly not troll.
Here’s a hint. Its not Jerry Hairston Jr I miss
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Wait, I thought all this time Jerry Hairston Jr was your PB? *ducks*
Upstate Kate-
Its part of my JDA 12-step program
“The Yankees didn’t have 10 years worth of #1 overall picks.”
Nor did Boston.
And the Yanks won the WS last year while the Rays did not………
# m June 8th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
I’m happy for Austin Jackson.
But I’m also happy that we have Gardner, Granderson, and Swisher.
Looking at Jackson v. Gardner, very similar seasons. That’s amazing for Jackson, who’s a true rookie. Still can’t believe Gardner has 3 HR. And wouldn’t be surprised if it stayed 3 HR.
Jackson has 61K in 228 at-bats. Gardner has 30 in 190. AJ has 8/1 SB/CS ratio. Gardner has 20/4.
Anyway, happy for Jackson. But also happy for Gardner, who’s having a nice season so far.
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Eventually the league will learn to stop throwing Jackson hittable fastballs. Then it will be a question of him being able to make an adjustment, or slide back into mediocrity.
We’ll all grow old watching the Sox’s picks pan out. Some will have to go in trades. The Sox are quickly getting old.
FYI:
http://www.bostondirtdogs.com calling out the sox fan base for not voting for Youk, Beltre, Ortiz,Pedroia et al poor babies!
Mariners dropped Chone Figgins from the #2 spot to 9th, that takes guts!!
LAA took over the #1 in their division last night.
Papelbon out a few days with stiff back. He’s placed on the bereavement list, a player on the list must miss a minimum of 3 games, and a max of 7
Randy Winn played CF for Cards last night vs Dodgers, Cards lost 12-4 hehehe!
# Yeah, but… June 8th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
“The Yankees didn’t have 10 years worth of #1 overall picks.”
Nor did Boston.
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Boston hasn’t drafted as well as the Yankees or Rays in the last 3-4 years. None of their guys are even close to being a top-rated prospect other than Peter Gammons saying so.
Daniel Burawa, RHP St. John’s. Interesting background.
Scratch that last comment………..
Daniel Burawa, RHP St. John’s.
Any news on Aceves injury…??
Papelbon out a few days with stiff back. He?s placed on the bereavement list, a player on the list must miss a minimum of 3 games, and a max of 7
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He’s bereaved because of a stiff back??? I didn’t know that was legal to do.
Sounds about as correct as Ollie Perez’s “knee injury”
I like Auston Jackon’s future. I genuinely hope he has a good major league career, independent of how Granderson ultimately works out, but as of Tuesday, June 8th, past the 1/3rd point of the season for both teams, Brett Gardner has a higher OPS than Jackson.
Let me repeat that is case it hasn’t sunk in.
Brett Gardner has a higher OPS than Austin Jackson.
And that’s all I have to say about that…
For those constantly whining about the Yankees and praising the Red Sox farm system, why don’t you do this.
Instead of whining, why don’t you look at the entire Red Sox farm system.
Take a good look at their “prospects” and you will see there aren’t nearly as many there as the hype allows.
If there were, they wouldn’t have had to spend another 100 million + in free agency in the off-season.
They wouldn’t have had to sign a career AAAA player in Darnell McDonald to fill in for Cameron when he got hurt.
I know some of you children obsess over the Red Sox.
However, CB is right, Tampa Bay is light years ahead of the Sox in player development.
Its not even close.
Stuckey said it best when he pointed out that way too many people are obsessed with what the Sox do.
The Sox have been sucking hind t*t for a long time.
Let’s just worry about what we do. The rest will take care of itself.
1st place by the ASB.
He’s bereaved because of a stiff back??? I didn’t know that was legal to do.
He’s mourning the loss of his skills/stuff!
stuckey,
Gardner’s slugging 1.000 and OPS’ing 1.556 in the last 7 days. What does slugging mean?
“Randy Winn played CF for Cards last night vs Dodgers, Cards lost 12-4 hehehe!”
At least he’s back in the NL where he belongs.
And for those who don’t believe that the AL is the superior league, Carlos Silva – now with the Cubs via the Milton Bradley deal – is 8-0. That’s all the proof that you need.
Most of Austin Jackson’s value is tied up in his batting average and his legs. If he stops hitting at a .330+ clip and getting on base that way, it won’t be pretty.
sox fans are also calling the move “roster manipulation” with the Papelbon move. I say bunk why would they play with a closer to de-activate?
Slugging is a power measure. Divide total bases by ABs. More 2bs and HRs mean more bases= higher slugging.
“Stuckey said it best when he pointed out that way too many people are obsessed with what the Sox do.”
Just to make my point clear, I think people are more obsessed with what the pundits, blogs and forums are SAYING about the Red Sox.
Many people who are waxing envious about the Red Sox farm system don’t know jack about the Red Sox farm system. What they’re really responding is to the glowing things they read on the internet about the Red Sox farm system.
What about triples? Are there higher values for HR than 3B than 2B?
Brett had a HR and at least 1 triple in the last week. Good times.
m,
I’m not sure I’m seeing your point?
How many of us were as smart at Girardi today with the line-up?
??????????
Yankees are doing a real good job ‘post cito’ and Cito may work out if they scouted him as much as they say they did.
The baseball draft isn’t something you worry about unless magically a bryce harper or stasburg falls to the Yankees. Most of these guys are going to be in the system for 3 years before you even start to hear about them getting close to the yankees.
Stuckey-
And if they did they’d know better than to be worried.
stuckey,
No point. That Last 7 days slash line just jumped off the stat page for me.
A HR = 4 bases, Triple =3 etc. So yes a triple helps more than a double. But players don’t hit many triples.
Roger-
Reports on Robben were better than initially thought. But I’m still not buying that he’s going to be able to come back and play unless we’re talking perhaps about the semis or the finals. A hamstring is a hamstring. And for a player whose game is based on pace, it’s very difficult to come back from even if it’s a minor tear in less than 4 weeks.
Eljero Elia is a very exciting player.
I just got Rinnus Michels book, Team Building. Been meaning to read it for a long time. The World Cup finally got me to do it!
Bosox fans didn’t vote because the sox players were really bad at the start and 8 or more games back, and Ortiz was/is a joke! They also can’t stand that Cano is miles ahead of Pedroia in votes.
If a team lets gardner drive a ball they are in trouble. If you watch the compilation video thats on youtube for Gardner, any ball that would be a double for a normal human is a triple, and he turns long singles into doubles.
Here’s another way to look at it:
Batting average is (Singles + Doubles + Triples + Homeruns) / At-Bats
Slugging is (Singles + 2*Doubles + 3*Triples + 4*Homeruns) / At-Bats
So that’s it? Carlos Silva is having an incredible season SOLELY because he’s in the NL? That’s a little far fetched. While there’s no doubt that the AL is a harder league to pitch in, I think much of the reason for Silva’s success has to do with Silva himself. It happens. Pitchers find themselves. I doubt if you took all crappy AL pitchers and threw them in the NL they’d put up numbers like Silva has been.
Just as I’m sure right now if Jimenez was in the AL he’d probably still be whooping everyone. The guy is just on fire right now. Give credit to the individuals. Don’t always downplay their accomplishments based on leagues. I see that often on here.
Darn-looks like I missed a GTLU win.
Once again this offseason will revolve around AP’s plans.
If he decides to return then cc comes into view.
If he hangs ‘em up then Cliff Lee is the main course.
Andy is a key player in so many, many ways.
The really tough call is between cc and GGBG.
If GGBG hits around .280 or so do you pass on cc ? And what if GGBG
happens to hit > .300 what then ?
Ledger_Yankees Tony Pena bouncing balls at Jorge Posada. Looks like “catching activity” to me.
YankeesWFAN Yanks out for early hitting and Posada wearing the gear first time since coming off DL.
Thanks NYYROC & …!
Well, Carlos Silva is not having the success he’s having solely because he’s in the NL. BUT. He was awful in the AL.
And, it’s not coincidental that guys like Halladay, Cliff Lee, Sabathia, Penny, Javy, just about anybody (IPK! Clippard!) have better stats in the NL. It’s just the nature of the beast. And the AL is a beast. Especially the AL East.
Damon
LOL! The idiotic Yankee fan base didnt even bother voting in Jeter when he was in the “last 5″ vote!
Tex still at #3? Is Girardi waiting for him to fall below the dreaded Mendoza line before he does something? Or will even that not be enough? I bet all of the rest of us wish we had jobs where there would be no repercussions for doing a crappy job for a third of our working year.
“So that?s it? Carlos Silva is having an incredible season SOLELY because he?s in the NL? ”
Exactly! And he’s not the only one. There are some pitchers who will be fantastic no matter what league they’re in (i.e. Halladay, maybe Jimenez). The NL is the weaker league. Add in the fact that the pitcher has to hit and it’s clear why pitchers who struggled in the AL will find success in the NL.
Life has become stressful for everyone nowadays, even toddlers.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho.....a-day.html
NYPost_Kernan Was at the draft, spent time talking to #MLB Bud Selig, he’s doing his homework on replay, my guess is there will not be a big change
CB
Mark my words.Man u,Arsenal,Real and Barca will all go after van der Wiel after this WC.I love Elia as well but because we already have Robben,vandervaart,sneijder and van Persie he will probably not play a lot.But he’s very young and his time will come.He will be very very good
You will LOVE this artical btw:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06.....cer-t.html
I read that article the other day when you posted it. Thanks Roger!! Excellent piece!
Just read that Selig is dismissing the idea of more replay based on some people in the MLB who “strongly dislike the idea”. What a farce.
Baseball remains in the middle ages because of grumpy old men like Selig.
Isn’t this Selig’s last year? They can get replay expanded after he leaves.
My personal take on the draft is this. I prefer picks that are really good at something (say throw 95 mph or hit for power or have speed) but lack in some particular area (which is why they are not all first round picks) as opposed to taking a “jack of all trades” but “master of jack” athlete type. That is not to say I am opposed to taking athletic players, but I prefer athletic players that have at least one amazing attribute- such as playing a great short stop or center field.
I believe last year Selig had his contract extended for 3 more years.
All the athletic players we take can’t hit.
We don’t need track stars, we need basketball players. Guys who can swing the stick.
Why take so many Greg Golson all glove/speed, no stick guys?
Why not take some college bats with power?
I’m glad Girardi didn’t succumb to the pressure of dropping Tex in the lineup. I’ve never read such crap in my life. Why would you swap Cano and Tex when Cano is hitting perfectly fine BEHIND Alex. Cano doesn’t need to see good pitches to hit, he just needs to hit. Tex can only benefit hitting in front of Alex and Cano. Dropping him won’t help. Tex will get his head on straight over the next few weeks when he realizes that he won’t be going to the All Star Game and getting an All Star bonus this year.
# Laura – What happened happened! June 8th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Isn’t this Selig’s last year? They can get replay expanded after he leaves.
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As long as someone more progressive-minded is installed as Commissioner.
Big surprise, lol. Selig just waited for the uproar to die down; he has no interest in protecting the integrity of the game.
“I believe last year Selig had his contract extended for 3 more years.”
Are you trying to make me depressed? LOL! I thought he announced that he was retiring at the end of this season. Or was that just my wishful thinking?
Selig wouldn’t know an original thought if it came up an bit him on the azz.
He stars in his own series “The Man with no brain”.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Bud.
“Mark my words.Man u,Arsenal,Real and Barca will all go after van der Wiel after this WC”
Roger-
I think I wrote this in my last post. I absolutely love van der Wiel. He was in terrific form for Ajax this season and he is immensely talented. He’s so good he hits you over the head with his technical skill and physical qualities. Watching him play it’s very difficult not to think of Dani Alves. van der Wiel has the talent to become one of the finest right flank players in the world.
I’m a Barca supporter and am very much hoping they acquire van der Wiel. By the way – how is van der wiel’s left foot. Is there any chance he could play on left? Ajax youth players are often good with both feet. Just wondering if you knew. I haven’t seen him use his left foot very much.
The oranje have so much talent. Shame about Robben. Van Bronckhorst though doesn’t look to be in very good form – he’s lost a great deal of pace and the left side of the back line to me looks vulnerable.
I’ve got that NY Times article on Ajax on my reading list. Just been busy and haven’t gotten enough free time to spend on it. It’s the kind of thing I want to have some time and quiet to read.
# Rick June 8th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
All the athletic players we take can’t hit.
We don’t need track stars, we need basketball players. Guys who can swing the stick.
Why take so many Greg Golson all glove/speed, no stick guys?
Why not take some college bats with power?
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Yankees took mainly athletic guys. These are the most flexible type of players, they can play anywhere because of their versatility.
The more recognized college/HS bats with power (Harper, Cox) go early. The Yankees never have early picks.
Not to mention an athletic HS draftee can bulk up, gain power, get better at hitting in the minors, etc. College bats with power only rarely develop speed and versatility.
Selig got extended through 2012. His current plan is to retire at that point, but who knows.
Tyler Austin, OF Heritage HS, GA.
Tyler Austin, c, Heritage HS, Conyers, Ga. 70
Born: Sept. 6, 1991. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 200. Commitment: Kennesaw State.
Austin is a good athlete that can play either corner in the infield or outfield, but his future is as a catcher. He’s a solid-average runner that ran a 6.8-second 60-yard dash at this summer’s Tournament of Stars, which took place a few weeks before he played in San Diego as an Aflac All-American. Austin also has above-average arm strength and will sometimes take the mound.
At the PG National Showcase last June, Austin looked to fumble a bit with his transfers and still showed pop times in the workouts between 1.8 and 1.9 seconds, with accurate throws?which is rare when players are often trying to show off how hard they can throw rather than how accurately they can throw. Austin has some work to defensively and spent the fall working with former major league catcher Michael Barrett.
“I haven’t seen him yet this spring, but that only matters if you show up and he can catch,” a National League area scout said. “You can work with whoever you want to work with, but you’ve got to be able to catch. But, for him, could he be a corner guy? Possibly. He’s got enough power to be a corner guy.”
Austin’s strength shows at the plate, where he’s very coordinated with good bat speed and power and he’s one of the draft’s most uplifting stories after overcoming testicular cancer last summer.
Laura, IIRC Selig’s deal was extended, all amid the PEDs uproar last year. Maybe someone can confirm.
How cool is this? Coming into the season Jason Heyward, Stephen Strasburg, and Mike Stanton were generally regarded as the top 3 prospects in baseball. Today Strasburg and Stanton make their MLB debuts and Heyward just emerged as one of the 3 leading vote getters among NL outfielders for the ASG.
Bud is a traditional, stuck up in the old ways Commissioner. I hope they replace him with someone more open-minded and mindful of the integrity of the game, and the desires of its fanbase.
Travis Dean, RHP
Travis Dean is a 6-foot-6-inch right-handed pitcher from Newton, Mass. The No. 2 rated prospect in Massachusetts by Perfect Game, Dean attended Worcester Academy in Worcester, Mass., and played travel baseball for the New England Roughnecks.
?Travis has a very loose arm,? said Coach Sansing. ?He has a very projectable body and he is a guy that will be a conference starter for us in the near future. He throws 90 miles per hour and has a tremendous upside. We?re very happy to have him in our program.?
http://www.ksuowls.com/news/20.....93438.aspx
“All the athletic players we take can’t hit.
We don’t need track stars, we need basketball players. Guys who can swing the stick.
Why take so many Greg Golson all glove/speed, no stick guys?
Why not take some college bats with power?”
college bats with “power” are a dime a dozen…everybody hits for power in college….its more than just hitting for “power”….those college bats with power contact ability and the other tools are not available when the yanks pick comes around. And how do you know all these guys cant hit, from the reports i’ve read, some sound very promising.
The owners won’t replace him. What a joke – the owners getting to elect a supposedly impartial arbiter of the game.
to expand (if I may) on Laura’s point:
they’ll have to wait for instant replay because Selig doesn’t want his legacy to be that he was the Commish who installed widespread instant replay.
Instead, he’ll be remembered as the man who turned a blind eye to rampant drug usage.
Chase Whitley RHP from Troy
Bud tries to spin the event as a “gracious moment for baseball, with the classy reactions of Jim Joyce, Armando Galarraga and Jimmy Leyland”, and that “people have been complaining about umpiring for years and we’re still fine”. What a joke of a Commissioner.
Just because umpiring has been incompetent for a long time doesn’t mean you leave it that way.
“the really tough call is between cc and GGBG.
If GGBG hits around .280 or so do you pass on cc ? And what if GGBG
happens to hit > .300 what then ?”
Is it REALLY that tough call?
Look, Crawford is a superior defensive player. And he’ll probably always slug a little more. But if GGBG can get on base then run and score comparably to CC (which is is right now), and play a decent LF, I don’t see how it’s even a question mark considering what each will make over the next few seasons…
Still has to do it over a full season, no doubt. My Gardner and Crawford are inhabiting similar zipcodes at the moment. If that doesn’t change, I can’t see how one justifies paying one $14m when the other can he had for $600k.
If Gardner finishes the year at his projected totals, there won’t be a need for Crawford come offseason. That money would be much better spent on Cliff Lee.
“The owners won’t replace him. What a joke – the owners getting to elect a supposedly impartial arbiter of the game.”
Not a joke.
The owners just don’t own the individual teams, collectively, they own the game.
MLB isn’t a separate entity apart from ownership. They ARE Major League Baseball. The game is not a public trust.
This has nothing to do with the effectiveness or lack thereof of Bud Selig, just a simple statement of fact. They have every right to install whomever they like as commissioner.
Crawford>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gardner
Hell, I loves me some Brett the Jet, but let’s get real here.
BryanHoch SI Yankees mgr Josh Paul is joining NYY as fill-in bullpen coach.
# oh, come on now!!! June 8th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Crawford>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gardner
Hell, I loves me some Brett the Jet, but let’s get real here.
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Why? Have you compared this year’s stats (Brett’s first year as full time starter versus Crawford’s 2010)?
“Crawford>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gardner”
He’s just not $14 million dollars a year better.
The Yankees will likely prioritize Cliff Lee. They are most likely going to sign him if he continues to pitch the way he has, doesn’t get injured and doesn’t get traded/sign an extension.
Unless there are extenuating circumstances such as a ridiculous outlier bid, I don’t see them passing on Lee.
# stuckey June 8th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
“Crawford>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gardner”
He’s just not $14 million dollars a year better.
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The production is also closer than most like to believe, once you look past the names.
Van der Wiel is not someone who can play on the left side.I followed Dani Alves as well but I really think vd Wiel is a better player.He can play defense as well unlike Dani Alves.
He’s a lot younger btw.
Watch out for Vertonghen.I heard there was some interest from Barca for him.I don’t know if you’ve seen Vermaelen(from Ajax as well) playing at Arsenal but vertonghen will be even better.Same kind of players but Vertonghen might have a better left foot.He’s from Belgium but he’s from the Ajax academy.
But back to the Netherlands.Robben will not play the first time but he will be ready for the second game.That’s the latest news on him.He’s making a speedy recovery
Our weakness is our defense(don’t like Mathijssen and van Brockhorst)Van Brockhorst has been a great player for Arenal and Barca but he’s just to old now.But as Cruijff would say:If you have the ball you don’t have to defend..makes sense huh!hahah
Not complaining, just asking: Why do you think Swisher’s batting 2 rather than Granderson? I don’t have a strong feeling either way, but Girardi did have Granderson #2 when he came back from the DL, and he seemed fine there then. I know Swisher has a higher OBP, but he also knocks in runs better. Thoughts?
I’m torn. I’m not in love with Cliff Lee. I can appreciate Crawford’s tools.
But if GGBG continues this performance arc, then yes he absolutely makes sense over Crawford if you can only afford/grab/focus on one of the two.
Andy can’t pitch forever. Sabathia/Lee/Hughes at the front of your rotation would be sick.
Wouldn’t be happy giving another pitcher $20M per annum, but it would probably be a better allocation of funds. This is where Joba not progressing as a starter actually hurts.
The question about Lee is does whomever acquires him this summer manage to sign him before he becomes a free agent, because he won’t be pitching for the Mariners past the trade deadline, this is almost certain.
oops. “then yes, Lee absolutely makes sense over Crawford if you can only afford one of the two.”
This team needs offense
Crawford or Werth is the way to go instead of spending big $$ on Lee….
Sabathia/Lee/Hughes at the front of your rotation would be sick.
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CC, LEE, and AJ making 60 million combined through 2013
“He’s just not $14 million dollars a year better.”
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I am not advocating signing Crawford, as I would much rather have Lee, but this is not how the Yankees operate.
Thus far this year Gardner has been a more valuable offensive player than Crawford. I’m not saying it will continue, and obviously Crawford has a better track record. Just throwing it out there..
stuckey,
If a team like the Dodgers were smart, they’d do the trade and lock him up. Just because the team is going through a divorce doesn’t mean baseball operations have to stop.
But if it’s a NL team, it could be a surprise contender like the Braves or the Reds. Just that finishing piece. Can’t see the Sox doing Lee on the heels of Lackey. haha.
The reason why most Yankee fans don’t get worked up about the Rays is simple.
They have no money. They can’t retain their players. They might win this year, but then again they might not and then they are going to lose key pieces of their team as time goes on because they don’t have the money to keep the team together.
They also don’t have the money to compete with NY or Boston for free agent/trade targets.
They may draft and develop very well, but they’re not even in the Twins ballpark money wise.
The Red Sox, however, can spend what we spend and compete with us for players…so when they appear to be drafting “high ceiling” guys that in theory you can buy with just dollars that other teams are avoiding, Yankee fans get all worked up.
I’m not worked up about their draft. I’ve never seen any of these guys play and I already know the playbook. Gammons and Law will praise every little gumdrop the Red Sox select and sign as the steal of the draft.
It’s comical that it gets Yankee fans upset since we know the script.
You want to judge the Red Sox system? Look at our roster composition vs. theirs right now.
Look at how our system is allowing the team to fill in for injuries without having to throw retreads out there.
The days of Sidney Ponson and Josh Phelps are long gone.
If you let ESPN, Gammons and Law get you upset, you really need to take a break from baseball related media.
You know they will always praise the Red Sox and call Theo a genius so why are you upset and surprised?
The proof is in the results.
And for all the praise Theo gets, the one thing that he still can’t show is that he can win a title without Manny Ramirez.
Something I personally don’t think they are going to do any time soon.
They are going to turn that entire roster over in the next few years with free agents and we’ve seen here first hand how free agency doesn’t always work and how a team full of mercenaries takes some of the soul out of the team.
If anything, the Yankees are trying to build something here more personal for a change with players who are proud of being part of the organization.
Stuckey-
I kind of thought that was what you would say.
Once they pass on cc he’s gone for good and is one year of GGBG enough to make that decision ?
or would you merely suggest that should GGBG not work out at a later time the Yankees will simply find another target ? Or other take ?
Vblade-
IMO if AP hangs em up they are going to spend their cash on CL and not on cc. I do not see them getting both.
“The production is also closer than most like to believe, once you look past the names.”
Oh no doubt. But despite the fact I’ve been on the front seat of this wagon even before the season started, even I’d say let’s see what the numbers look like in Oct.
But THAT said, Crawford is going to have to get some separation. Even if the production separates, it would have to separate a LOT in my eyes.
Ledger_Yankees Culver late to conference call: had to get a tux for senior ball. White with pinstripes.
The problem is that no matter how well Gardner plays this year he is still a much bigger risk than Crawford. With Crawford you pay for certainty, with Gardner you are betting on continued performance.
I’m with CB on this though, because after dealing with Jeter, Mo and I assume Andy I think the Yanks are only going to have the budget room for one more big free agent, and given Gardner’s performance if you have to pick between Crawford and Lee I think the Yanks will choose Lee.
I guess that means Eiland is going to be out for awhile……….
Roger, CB, CR9n if any of you are around, I have a futbol question about Italy.
Is it the general international perception/stereotype that Italy is among the more proficient sides at diving and other forms of cheating?
I mentioned this in a conversation with an Italian visitor (not a particular futbol fan but still a patriotic supporter) and the reaction was shock and disbelief.
“I am not advocating signing Crawford, as I would much rather have Lee, but this is not how the Yankees operate.”
I’m not certain they are not in the midst of changing the way they operate.
I think this off-season strongly suggests (though I can’t prove it) that things are beginning to change.
Why give $100+ million to a pitcher who is going to be 33 in 2011, to a 6 year deal?
You want the guy signed till he is 38-39?
Crawford is the way to go. You can move Swish to DH or something.
CB-
IMO if AP returns no CL. period.
Vblade-
IMO if AP hangs em up they are going to spend their cash on CL and not on cc. I do not see them getting both.
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Pitching is always paramount. AP has 1-2 years left at best. That’s why I’d make the investment on Lee. LF can always be addressed via trade or internally. Aces however, don’t grow on trees.
this team… thats leading the majors in runs scored… needs offense.
god, this place is hilarious.
I’m sticking with my original prediction that if the Yanks re-sign Andy Pettitte, they don’t sign Lee or Crawford.
# Banjo June 8th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Why give $100+ million to a pitcher who is going to be 33 in 2011, to a 6 year deal?
You want the guy signed till he is 38-39?
Crawford is the way to go. You can move Swish to DH or something.
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If you ask me to pick between offense and pitching, the answer will always be pitching.
# Irreverent Discourse June 8th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
this team… thats leading the majors in runs scored… needs offense.
god, this place is hilarious.
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That’s with a largely invisible Tex as well. The offense is the least of this team’s needs.
eboland11 Culver doesnt sound like he’ll be that difficult to sign. “I just can’t wait to be a Yankee,” he said, surely not in his advisors’ playbook
MTU,
I just remembered you asked me a question yesterday when I said I would go after Lee even if Andy returns.
I can’t remember another rotation either with 3 quality lefties like that, but wouldn’t that be ideal at YS?
I guess it would be overkill in a way, but I am a big pitching guy. Great SP can mask a lot of slumps or flaws with a team. And great SP really is what carries teams in the playoffs to a large degree.
I really like Lee, especially because he pitches deep into games (and I really don’t trust most middle relievers)
I don’t want Lee, but I don’t want anyone else to have him either, lol.
He’ll be too much $$ for too many years and he’s not young anymore…..
In 2013 we will be paying $60 million to
36 yr old Burnett
35 yr old Cliff Lee
33 yr old Sabathia
Not a good allocation of funds. Need to develop some young pitching rather then handing out big deals to pitchers in their 30s.
I’d rather sign a position player to beef up the offense and play around with the #4-5 spots.
“Look at how our system is allowing the team to fill in for injuries without having to throw retreads out there.”
G-Love,
To be fair, if we rooted for another team we wouldn’t be all that impressed with the Yanks having to play Russo or Golson out there and that was with only one outfielder hurt. Boston had two hurt and actually MacDonald did not play badly at all for them.
Patrick-
That is indeed a bold prediction. Probably wrong but definitely bold.
# LGY June 8th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
MTU,
I just remembered you asked me a question yesterday when I said I would go after Lee even if Andy returns.
I can’t remember another rotation either with 3 quality lefties like that, but wouldn’t that be ideal at YS?
I guess it would be overkill in a way, but I am a big pitching guy. Great SP can mask a lot of slumps or flaws with a team. And great SP really is what carries teams in the playoffs to a large degree.
I really like Lee, especially because he pitches deep into games (and I really don’t trust most middle relievers)
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I don’t believe in overkill when it comes to pitching, and I think most here would agree.
gardner is outperforming crawford in every measurable category except power (avg, obp, bb/k) THIS season, but he still has a long way to go to prove that he should still be patrolling the outfield next season.
Shaun (Washington, DC)
Can you make a case FOR the Yankees drafting Culver where they did?
Klaw (1:08 PM)
Not really, no. I know some teams that had him on the fringes of their second-round boards, but this still feels like a reach to me.
John (Syracuse)
What was the reason behind the Yankees taking Cito Culver with their first round pick?
Klaw (1:32 PM)
They loved his makeup, knew the kid inside and out, scouted him extremely heavily, and felt that he’s a switch-hitting shortstop with a plus arm and a chance for average or slightly above-average power. I don’t quite share that optimism, based not so much on my own notes from seeing him last summer but more on what other teams are telling me.
AW (NY)
I’m starting to come around on Culver after buying some spin. Is there something to be said for the Yankees knowing this kid better than other teams’ scouts because of his location? I don’t know what to think of this.
Klaw (1:33 PM)
Just following up – I have never liked the take-the-local-kid philosophy. That’s how the Pirates ended up with Neil Walker. Sometimes it works, and if you’re the Angels or Braves the local kid is often pretty good, but that can’t be your primary rationale for taking a player if you’re north of the Mason-Dixon line.
Will (NY)
Aren’t the “other teams” talking you about Culver somewhat biased? I think you’re better off sticking with your own notes.
Klaw (1:35 PM)
Biased by what? This includes all the area scouts up here who told me this spring not to burn a trip to see Culver again.
vblade,
I agree. Especially starting pitching.
Roger-
At comparable ages, I agree van der Wiel is a more mature, disciplined player than Alves was. That said, Alves is a much better defensive player than he is credited for. Maicon is the best right half in the world. But Alves is not far behind him. Alves’s stamina and work rate are phenomenal. There is no other player in the world like him in those regards. His ability to single handedly play the entire right flank is part of what allows Messi the freedom to move as he pleases when he starts out on the right wing.
From what I’ve seen of Vertonhghen I’ve liked him quite a bit. Seems like a very good holding player. I could see Vertonghen being more complete than Vermaelen. If Barca gets rid of Toure, I would be happy to see them acquire Vertonghen.
Do you really think that Robben can play in game 2? I hope so but just think about how long hamstring pulls usually take – even in baseball. I find it hard to believe he’ll be back so soon. To me that sounds like the team is just sending out smoke screens. But we’ll see. I hope he does play.
I think van der Wiel’s development helps the oranje’s backline a great deal. The right side is much improves. Van Brockhorst has been a great player in his career but he really looks done. The oranje are very vulnerable to pace along that wing. The one goal Hungary scored was exactly along those lines.
von Bommel also hasn’t looked very good. Is that just me? I didn’t think he played very well for Bayern this season and hasn’t looked very good in the friendlies.
Also agree on playing defense via possession. But that will be a challenge against teams like Spain and Brazil.
# EC June 8th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
In 2013 we will be paying $60 million to
36 yr old Burnett
35 yr old Cliff Lee
33 yr old Sabathia
Not a good allocation of funds. Need to develop some young pitching rather then handing out big deals to pitchers in their 30s.
I’d rather sign a position player to beef up the offense and play around with the #4-5 spots.
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And where would this young ace starting pitching you want to develop….?
The system doesn’t have any ML-ready starting pitching aside from Hughes and Chamberlain, and they’re already here.
*develop be?
I tend to agree with Goldman today who thought the Yanks were concerned about replacing Jeter and didn’t draft either certainty or the best available talent in the first round.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....FDCWwZX5tM
There is belief among media draft experts that the Yankees reached with their first-round pick, Cito Culver, a 17-year-old, switch-hitting shortstop from Rochester. Unlike many of my brethren, who are saying what are good picks and bad picks despite never having seen these amateurs play, I have no idea if Culver was a good pick or not. What I will report to you is that the Yanks internally believe that many teams were higher on Culver than the media.
The Yanks, for example, know Dodgers GM Ned Colletti personally scouted Culver. Former Twins GM Terry Ryan, who is still a key voice in Minnesota?s organization, saw Culver several times, and the Rays had multiple personnel in to see Culver. The Yanks do not believe Culver would have lasted until their next pick.
The Yanks also claim they were comfortable with Culver because their area scouts knew him from his pre-teenage years. That convinced the Yanks that Culver was a good kid despite having a father with a criminal background that includes burning down the family house.
But even the Yankees admit that the kid is a project years away from any chance of making the majors.
“The problem is that no matter how well Gardner plays this year he is still a much bigger risk than Crawford. With Crawford you pay for certainty, with Gardner you are betting on continued performance.”
There is no effective argument to counter this, but I would say on the premise that IF Gardner keeps it up for the whole year, he will have shown a dramatic and consistent arc of improvement his entire pro career (not to mention Major League one) and his CAREER OBP (factoring his his tough first go-around) will rival Crawford’s.
Again, IF he does this all year, there has to come a point where fans have to ask themselves exactly why they’re so bearish and cautious with their expectations…
Wave,
True. But we are filling our needs from within our system with young players we drafted and developed.
McDonald is a journeyman in his 30′s.
My point was the team is plugging it’s holes with the guys they are developing within.
The Red Sox would be in trouble if they didn’t McDonald as minor league filler.
They’d be forced to play Reddick who every time they bring him up to the bigs they shuttle him back down as fast as possible because he’s not showing he’s capable of playing at this level and they don’t want his trade hype to get diminished.
Nick
That’s very well known.Sadly that’s how they play football
pat June 8th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
eboland11 Culver doesnt sound like he’ll be that difficult to sign. “I just can’t wait to be a Yankee,” he said, surely not in his advisors’ playbook
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This is totally dumb, but when I read that quote, “I just can’t wait to be king” from The Lion King popped into my head. LOL
That is indeed a bold prediction. Probably wrong but definitely bold.
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I think it actually makes some sense. If Pettitte re-signs you have 4 very good pitchers locked in. Does it really make sense to sign another very good pitcher to a huge money deal? I could see the Yanks either re-signing Vazquez to a 1 or 2 year deal or making another trade for a short-term solution. Or making Joba the fifth starter (this is my sincere hope).
And if Gardner continues his good season then Crawford is completely unnecessary.
Even though Andy is having a great season, he still may want to hang ‘em up. If we win it all again, I’d bet that Andy would settle for 6 rings and call it a career.
Keith Law is nowhere near the authority on prospects, and based on that conversation, he never bothered to see Culver more than once.
Sorry, I’d rather trust the Yankee scouts who’ve seen him for multiple games. But I’m sure the BA-huggers and mass hysteria agents will have a field day with that.
If they’ve decided finally that Joba is not a starter anymore, then you almost have to sign Lee.
Who is pitching in the 4th-5th spot for you? Look at the division – our rivals are 4-5 deep, when healthy. You can’t be experimenting with 2 spots again and live with that much uncertainty. We don’t have any young pitching thats any good thats ready for next year.
LGY-
It would be fantastic to have that lefty dominating rotation but my argument revolved around 2 things :
The overkill factor.
and even more cogent
The fact I can’t think of an a similar instance of it being done.
Can you name a team that had 3 quality lefties like CC, AP, and CL in their rotation ?
Brett Gardner ranks 2nd in the league in Runs (41, on pace to score 121); 3rd in Stolen Bases (20); 9th in OBP (.393).
He’s raking at The Stadium: .973 OPS.
VBlade and Stuckey are onto something, imho. Crawford is not a significantly better player (certainly not @the salary he’ll demand).
How about this, though:
LF – Crawford
CF – Granderson
RF – Gardner
The Yanks could DH Swisher.
Even if you shuffle them around, that is one strong defensive unit (and an absolute nightmare for opposing catchers).
Here’s my thinking:
Cliff Lee is the kind of signing that could win you 3-4 World Series in a row, coupled with Sabathia, Hughes, and perhaps AP atop the rotation.
Is Crawford that kind of impact signing? I doubt it.
Wave I think the Culver pick is more than just a pick for need. I think the Yankees legitimately like this guy and had solid information that he would have been selected in the second round. It was a stretch in the sense that Culver would have reached maybe mid second round before being picked but the Yanks wanted him and had to pick him when they did. If MLB allowed draft picks to be traded they could have traded down and still gotten Culver but since that’s not possible they had to use their 1st rounder on him.
Patrick-
Your argument actually has merit to me but I just don’t think it will be the Yankee POV.
Nick,
You did not ask me and I have been out of the soccer loop for a few years now, but growing up really into soccer I always heard that and saw that from Italy.
In terms of personal experience from playing in a few tournaments in Italy, I can personally attribute it is more of a truth than just a stereotype
I actually learned a lot playing against the Italians. They are very sneaky and very good at recognizing at knowing when and how to do certain things when the ref is not looking.
After my first few games over there I had to make sure my shorts were tied tight, my jersey was securely tucked in, and I definitely considered wearing a cup
# hardwired June 8th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Brett Gardner ranks 2nd in the league in Runs (41, on pace to score 121); 3rd in Stolen Bases (20); 9th in OBP (.393).
He’s raking at The Stadium: .973 OPS.
VBlade and Stuckey are onto something, imho. Crawford is not a significantly better player (certainly not @the salary he’ll demand).
How about this, though:
LF – Crawford
CF – Granderson
RF – Gardner
The Yanks could DH Swisher.
Even if you shuffle them around, that is one strong defensive unit (and an absolute nightmare for opposing catchers).
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It makes no sense to DH Swisher when he is serviceable and borderline good in RF as it is. Plus, Gardner’s speed is wasted in RF.
It would make more sense to sign a cheaper power DH (dime a dozen) and get Lee instead – you’d still have a pretty damn strong batting order.
sorry – not a believer in gardner
nice that he got off to a hot start, but he can’t sustain it.
gardner is like carl crawford… except crawford will hit 15 more HRs, maybe even 20 in our stadium.
i’d sell gardner high if i could and then sign crawford.
joe DT June 8th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
sorry – not a believer in gardner
nice that he got off to a hot start, but he can’t sustain it.
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This is based on…?
“IMO if AP returns no CL. period. ”
I don’t think it’s an issue of Andy. It’s more an issue of what to do with Javy’s spot in the rotation.
Andy is going to pitch again next season unless he gets hurt. He is not walking away from the game with how he’s pitching and an outside shot at the hall.
I think the yanks like Lee a lot and they are going to try to make a move for him to try to extend a dynasty type run.
There are no high ceiling starting pitchers in the system close to being ready to step into the rotation. The best are in A ball. It’ll be at least 3 years before they are ready.
This article has a pic of Cito Culver.
http://www.theyankeeu.com/2010.....pick-18626
VBlade-
a rotation of :
CC
AJ
AP
CL
PH
Might be the best rotation ever. Would I love to see the Yankees do it ?
Absolutely.
Do I think they would ?
Nope.
So I agree with you in sentiment but disagree in real terms.
G-Love-
I don’t really disagree with you, but you have to concede that it is almost impossible to fill the hole when a team loses two starting outfielders the way the Red Sox did. If the Yanks were to lose both Granderson and Gardner simultaneously we couldn’t have done much either.
Right now, offensively, there isn’t a whole lot of immediate help in the upper tiers of the Yank farm system. I’m not one of these Boston envy people who think they are so much better off either, but I do think you (well not you personally but people in general) have to look at our farm system realistically.
Thanks Roger and LGY — the question is open to anyone.
Now I’m looking forward to passing on those answers.
I don’t think it’s an issue of Andy. It’s more an issue of what to do with Javy’s spot in the rotation.
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Joba Chamberlain!
Nick, Your post late last night /early this morning was hysterical
Nick
You should give this link to you’r Italian friend..
EC 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Patrick-
Who’s to say you aren’t right and maybe the Yanks were worried, but if Culver wasn’t the best available talent at 32 but the Yanks accelerated the pick because they were worried someone else would get him then they were in fact drafting for need.
I’m not thrilled with the pick but I’m not going to be an active basher either.
New Post: Posada begins catching drills
CB-
I think if AP returns we are still only looking at a #5 starters spot to fill. I am not sure the Yankees will want to go to the Cliff Lee level to fill a spot.
They could try Joba again, or sign a lesser pitcher. It’s a bit of overkill although I would love to see them do it.
vblade
I think the guy is just saying that we should continue to develop young power arms like Hughes because teams are locking guys like Felix Hernandez, lincecum, and Verlander up.
The game in baseball is changing and the Yankees need to adjust. You can’t keep on spending on free agents/ old vets forever. I want us to go back to the years when the Yankees had a lower payroll, brought kids up from the farm, and made smart trades.
We don’t need a 200 million dollar payroll. I rather have it around 150- 160 million.
# MTU (aka GBURL) June 8th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
VBlade-
a rotation of :
CC
AJ
AP
CL
PH
Might be the best rotation ever. Would I love to see the Yankees do it ?
Absolutely.
Do I think they would ?
Nope.
So I agree with you in sentiment but disagree in real terms.
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They could, if they didn’t sign Crawford. Javy’s money is falling off the books.
I don’t think Culver has anything to do with replacing Jeter since he’s years away from being able to make the majors.
I don’t think the Yankees expect Jeter to be their starting SS 4-5 years down the road…..the time it may take Culver to make the majors.
I think they made a concerted effort in the early rounds of the draft this year to take toolsy, more athletic players since they are lacking those kind of guys in the system right now.
Nick-
It partly depends on what negative tactic you are referring to, but in general the Italian team and style of play is very poorly thought of when it comes to cheap play.
The original style of “catennacio” defensive play advanced by Helenio Herrera from Inter in the 1960′s was originally deemed acceptable as a “power to the weak.” Herrera’s teams were notorious for their underhanded style of play. But they dominated the scene in terms of results. From what I understand, that helped shape much of how soccer developed nationally for Itally afterwards. There was a general sense in Italy that players in the country were generally smaller than players from other countries and as such they had to do what was “needed” in order to win.
It wasn’t until Sacchi and his great AC Milan tams that things in Italy changed somewhat.
Future Italian football players:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSir9KssOVM
LOL
Question: what if the Red Sox target Crawford in the off season?
Would that change anyone’s opinion on the Yankees pursuing him?
Crawford would add a pretty frightening dynamic to that team.
Joe Torre (last night) had a person on 1st and 3rd, with the pitcher at the plate and no outs. He called for a squeeze bunt. The play worked the Cards pitcher bobbled the plaY, the run scores, and the pitcher got a base and a RBI.
Larussa’s still calling around baseball (friends) to see if it was a legal play.
-Just heard 4 minutes ago (on the computer) on sports radio in St Louis from Kevin Slaten, team1380.net
Roger-
Watching the Spain-Poland friendly. Absolutely hard to believe talent on spain. They are bringing in substitutes in waves all of whom are world class players.
Would love to see the Netherlands and Spain match up. That could be a historically great match.
Larussa is complaining about a squeeze play, when he sent down a young .303 hitter, to make room for a .203 hitter Randy Winn in CF. What a joke!
The best picks in the draft go to the Rays. They pick players with great talent, and quick movers the the big leagues. This is why they will be able to over come the loss of Crawford and Pena in the off season. That’s why Madden told his team this may be the last year you’re together, so get it done. Give credit where credit is due. For way too many years the Yankees did not take the draft as serious as they should have, but, I believe that’s starting to change. I just wish the Yankees had held onto the young players, like Cashman said he was going to. I like Granderson, but still believe Austin Jackson has more up side. Phil Coke, when he wasn’t being over used, was very effective in the bullpen, and is showing go pitching for Detroit this year. I would have rather Cashman kept Coke and gotten rid of Marte. (Coke 3-0 .378 ERA 2010) Last 3 years 8-3 WHIP 1.09.
It’s not about Carl Crawford being better than Brett Gardner.
Of course he is. But is Crawford that much better that you’d want to see the team spend 5 years $60 to $70 million on him? Maybe even more years and dollars? I say no.
Cliff Lee is the free agent choice, and if he can be had at the trade deadline for a Romine-fronted package, then you go get him. He’s that good.
Phil Coke is not as good as Damaso Marte.