Game 59: Yankees at Orioles
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 09, 2010 
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YANKEES (36-22)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Francisco Cervelli C
Kevin Russo LF
LHP CC Sabathia (5-3, 4.14)
Career vs. Orioles
ORIOLES (16-42)
Julio Lugo 2B
Miguel Tejada 3B
Nick Markakis RF
Ty Wigginton 1B
Luke Scott LF
Adam Jones CF
Matt Wieters C
Garrett Atkins DH
Cesar Izturis SS
RHP Chris Tillman (0-1, 7.71)
Career vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m. / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Gerry Davis, 1B Sam Holbrook, 2B Greg Gibson, 3B D.J. Reyburn
WEATHER: Chance of rain all night. Looks like we’ll start on time, but the forecast is a bit dicey.
REMEMBER HIM?: Former Yankees top prospect Jose Tabata will make his major league debut with the Pirates tonight. Pittsburgh will also unveil it’s own pitching prospect, Brad Lincoln, against the Nationals. Safe to say, he won’t get nearly the buzz of Strasburg.
THAT GUY FROM THE DOCUMENTARY: Remember the PBS documentary Baseball? I have it at home. On VHS. The guy who made it, Ken Burns, is here t throw out the first pitch. If you haven’t seen the series, I highly recommend it. Great stuff, including a lot of interviews with the great Buck O’Neil.
SLUGFEST NUMBERS: Saturday night’s HBO broadcast of the Stadium Slugfest was the highest rated boxing main event on the network this year. He had a 3.9 rating.
WOMAN OF THE YEAR: Assistant GM Jean Afterman was honored today as a Women in Sports and Entertainment Woman of the Year at the organization’s annual luncheon.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Brian Cashman just confirmed that Brett Gardner’s x-rays were negative. That’s good news. Giving credit where it’s due, I believe Mark Feinsand had the news first.
UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: The Yankees just officially announced the Gardner news. Negative x-rays and so far a scoreless game.
UPDATE, 7:55 p.m.: The Orioles have the early lead with a second-inning run off Sabathia. Back-to-back two-out singles by Garrett Atkins and Cesar Izturis. Hard to see that coming.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: Three straight two-out singles have given the Orioles a 2-0 lead. On the third hit, Kevin Russo didn’t help by throwing home on the play, letting the runners advance to second and third.
UPDATE, 8:26 p.m.: The Yankees got a run on Curtis Granderson’s sac fly, and the rain has started to fall pretty hard here at Camden. So far no tarp. It’s 2-1 heading into the bottom of the fourth.
UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: Between innings, the Camden Yards public address crew just played Circles by Soul Coughing. It was terrific. Meanwhile, the Yankees couldn’t take advantage of Kevin Russo’s lead-off single and still trail 2-1.
UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: The Yankees have something brewing here in the sixth. Mark Teixeira reached on an error, then got to third when Luke Scott misplayed a single to left. Runners at the corners. No outs. Cano at the plate.
UPDATE, 9:00 p.m.: When in trouble, trust Cano. He’s 9-for-11 in the past three games — thank you Mark Feinsand — and just tied the game with an RBI single. Jorge Posada followed by driving in the go-ahead run (should have been a double play, but the Orioles threw it away). It’s now 3-2 Yankees with one out and a runner at second.
UPDATE, 9:35 p.m.: Francisco Cervelli and CC Sabathia are monumentally pumped. Huge strikeout to leave the bases loaded and kept the one-run lead intact.
UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: Gardner pinch running after Posada’s walk.
UPDATE, 9:50 p.m.: Gardner steals a bag, Cervelli singles in the run and I’m feeling like I’m back in Scranton again. Nice work by the two young Yankees. It’s a 4-2 lead.
Okay, I get that Rockks. But most people know there’s a divide between the two leagues. The rule of thumb in ERA differential is about .75 runs. Which means add 0.75 runs to Pelfrey’s ERA to approximate what his ERA would be in the NL. Or better yet, subtract 0.75 from Hughes. He’d be sub-2!
I think most people would say that Hughes is the better pitcher. I think most Yankee fans who live in NY could say with the utmost confidence that Hughes is better than Pelfrey. I just can’t understand why there’s a serious discussion about it.
Slow day on the blog?
Never talk about age (when comparing players), when one of the players went to college
I didn?t start the Hughes/Pelfrey stuff. Someone brought it up and I started talking about it.
mick June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Erin
Get the Joe Jackson references?
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very nice, mick.
Sorry it took me a minute to catch up.
Very good news on Gardner.
YAY! for Brett!
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Betsy strives to create controversy.
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In what manner? I never understood the hubbub that seems to become prevalent when Betsy asks various questions. It’s mostly Hughes-related, so what? I just don’t see what the issue is.
Jeremy,
This silly debate has been going on for weeks – it’s hard not to join in lol
We all know who is better though. Just funny seeing how many people want the media to acknowledge it or they go crazy lol
That Joe Jackson? From “Field of Dreams” Joe Jackson?
Baseball was outstanding. Lots of great stories. Every baseball fan has to see it.
Burns said something last year about adding to that famed documentary starting with the strike of 1994 and all about the Steroid era.
Should be good stuff.
Burns did a great World War II documentary a couple of years ago as well.
At least some good news on Gardner. Just when they are starting to get healthy didn’t need anyone else going down. And there is just so much more length to the lineup with Gardner batting nine.
mick
I have never posted as another poster. Betsy and another poster talked about the media comparing Pelfrey and Hughes and I gave my opinion.
To be fair, Betsy posted the article and said it was ridiculous to compare the two. If the yahoos on the radio need to stir it up then that’s understandable.
But I think Hughes’ season to date speaks for itself. And if they want to compare the two pitchers then to most the answer is obvious.
Let’s go Yankee bats. Score early and often in case the rains come!
WOMAN OF THE YEAR: Assistant GM Jean Afterman was honored today as a Women in Sports and Entertainment Woman of the Year at the organization’s annual luncheon.
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Thats pretty awesome. Congratulations
# Butch June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Hey Carl it’s ROMINE u moron
Wow you’re so smart dumbass!
m June 9th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
That Joe Jackson? From “Field of Dreams” Joe Jackson?
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Michael’s dad Joe jackson??
(PLease note: I actually have no clue what all of the Joe Jackson stuff is about)
# Carl (Trade August Romain) June 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# Butch June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Hey Carl it’s ROMINE u moron
Wow you’re so smart dumbass!
LMAO
Betsy a Hughes Fangirl.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
Banjo
Yeah I agree.
I didn’t notice this mentioned (I could be wrong), but the Yankees are no longer facing Guthrie tomorrow. They are facing a rookie instead
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....es-arrieta
MLBTR:
“A rival executive tells Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that, despite the Yankees’ effective rotation, he expects the team to be “undeterred in their pursuit of Lee on the trade market.” According to Rosenthal’s sources, the Phillies discussed Lee with the Yankees last winter prior to trading the left-hander to the Mariners. The Yankees had been willing to include Montero in a package for Lee, but that was before both the Vazquez trade and the emergence of Hughes.”
Betsy always gives other pitchers their due. Sometimes too much so. Personally I don’t fawn over opposing pitchers. If they’re a rival pitcher on a contending team, I want them to fail. So, in that spirit, Go Cleveland and Toronto!
Ken Rosenthal:
The Yankees are going to end up with Mariners left-hander Cliff Lee. The only question is whether they land him in a trade this summer or as a free agent this winter — and a trade might not be as far-fetched as it appears.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ork-Yankee
Once again, Betsy did nothing wrong. It is not she that strives to create controversy…
I say wait on Lee. Why pay with cash and the necessary prospects especially when we have a loaded rotation atm?
I just hope they don’t use the approach they did with CC.
If the Yankees trade Montero for Lee, they are far more shortsighted than I thought.
That said, I doubt it happens.
“Betsy
I gave Pelfrey is due but he pitches in a weak League against some of the weakest lineups in baseball period !”
Is Hughes facing the iron? 3 starts against Baltimore, 1 against Cleveland, 1 against the White Sox. That’s half his starts against the teams ranked 25th, 26th and 28th in major league baseball in scoring runs. Oakland is #21, Detroit is #20 and the Mets are #17. That means 7 of his 11 starts have come against the baseball’s 10 worst offenses.
Foot race between Crawford and Lee. $13m contract for Crawford and $18m for Lee. First one wins.
Hughes has been great this year; So has Pelfrey.
I do not see what the big deal is…
I love that even rookies are dropping changeups on Tex for strike s
Let Lee go to Nats.
“I guess the bottom line is that if the Yankees have a chance to get Carl Crawford for a long term deal or put Brett Gardner back in LF next season then, from a baseball standpoint, the Yankees would be better off signing Crawford because he has indeed held up well every day for the last 6 season. IIRC the only time he missed was in 2008 for a wrist injury…and there has been no recurrence of that injury.”
Then that’s an argument to take any opportunity to swap a relatively healthy veteran for a less experienced player.
Do you genuinely advocate that policy?
“Brett Gardner is going to have to play regularly for a few years with minimal injury or performance loss before anyone is going to give him a long term contract.”
And why would they? That’s the whole benefit of having a productive young player and the origin of the term “cost controlled”.
“Although there is no data that shows why there is a concern about smaller players, the fact that major league executives who are charged with making good decisions do, indeed, have a concern about smaller players, so, in this case…perception is indeed reality.”
Not in a discussion of whether the Yankees SHOULD replace Gardner with Crawford it isn’t.
“If there were evidence (statistical data) that showed smaller players holding up as well as bigger players you can bet that major league executives would act differently.”
With all due courtesy, that’s not an effective answer.
For one it’s presuming that ML executive have done the research, and it’s also presuming that you’re even correctly characterizing how the majority of ML executives act and think, and I don’t suspect you could support that notion with any evidence either.
Swish saved Tex’s DP.
almost Alex
Sure, but….
You are not a regular on here so I know that you are trolling. I don’t care what you have to say. The fact is that the NL is weaker than the AL period !
Hughes would have better numbers right now if he pitched in the NL. Every single scrub pitcher from contreras to Brad Penny have turned into CY young award winners in the NL.
That was a rocket.
Facts > Jeremy
KenDavidoff Before #Yankees-#Orioles game, Yanks hitting coach Kevin Long was watching video of O’s SP Chris Tillman, cursing in admiration of him.
ugh where was that 2-2 pitch
Jerry just blew a strike 3
Joe Jackson the singer.
5th pitch was a strike
Sure, but….
The Fact is that the NL is a weaker league and you can pull up all the info you want. The NL is a joke !
Michael’s dad Joe jackson??
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Make that call Erica, your GM needs to know.
Holy Geez. Whoever that manager is of the Orioles, he looks just like Erik King of the Showtime series Dexter!!
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2884672256/nm0454701
The Orioles make me sad
atta boy CC
mick June 9th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Michael’s dad Joe jackson??
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Make that call Erica, your GM needs to know.
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Joe Jackson… he was “Breaking Us In Two” right?
Oh, thank the lord for that pick off.
Lets Go Yankees.
Nice way to get out of trouble despite struggling.
And thank you for that K, Mr. CC.
In what manner? I never understood the hubbub that seems to become prevalent when Betsy asks various questions. It’s mostly Hughes-related, so what? I just don’t see what the issue is.
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Nothing against her but she seems to spend more time in here than anyone else and has the ability to get more controversy going than anyone else. Most of it is brought on by negative, worrisome thinking, which she admits to. But more power to her, she can say and think any way she wishes. It’s just tedious and repetitive and sometimes is hard to believe she can be so precocious.
Wigginton and Markakis. Have to feel bad for those 2.
Hey, Tabata reached on an IF single in his first major league at-bat. Good job.
Hey Michael Kay the Yanks are playing the O’s not the Nats. Shut up.
Cano is just on fire.
how good is cano? My god….he’s been insane.
Throwing out Lugo saved a run, since Markakis doubled, whew!
I wish CC’s first innings didn’t for the most part take 18 or more pitches.
I feel really bad for Markakis. No player that hot should have to toil in mediocrity like that.
Got something to do. Be back in about an hour
Cano is hot, Posada is not. Pedroia sucks. I saw him punch a baby, once.
Hey, I mentioned it – you guys could have ignored it if it bothered you so much………..If you’re upset, there’s nothing I can do about that.
# m June 9th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I feel really bad for Markakis. No player that hot should have to toil in mediocrity like that.
I just typed the same thing. Him and Wiggy.
m
Tell that to Henrik Lundqvist.
why isn’t it 6-0 yet?
Jeremy, how is that trolling? Those are facts………are you going to dispute that the Indians, O’s and A’s are not weak offenses? It’s ok, because he’s also beaten the Sox and Tigers…….
I also don’t get what the heck the problem is comparing players; part of why I love baseball is that you can get into debates with friends or whomever about players, whether from the same or different generations.
all this info on the new prospect we get to face tomorrow except whether he’s a lefty or righty.
i need to know.
Those Rosenthal rumors about Cliff Lee sound like Rosenthal rumors.
I believe the Mariners have officially put Lee on the trade block in suggesting that they would want x and y players from the Yanks. They’re using the Yankees as leverage because all the large market teams eyeing Cliff Lee know that the Yankees have the prospects to get the deal done.
It won’t happen.
i thought there was a few others who were on the hughes bandwagon besides betsy. maybe pat m and randy. am i wrong about this.
I wasn’t going to repost this, but since other people reposted with regard to this topic, I’m putting in my 4 cents. And just for the record, what finally got to me, was that this topic came up this morning and then another two or three times during the day. It’s one thing if a topic is brought up and discussed and then we move on, but it’s hashed and rehashed and re-rehashed again.
So, here’s my repost:
Just skimming – but – why does it matter what people think about this pitcher or that pitcher and who is better than whom? As long as the pitcher you’re interested in is doing well, what does it matter?
It makes for “sports talk” that is all.
I mean is there going to be angst every time some other good young pitcher has a better good game than our good young pitcher? There is room for many good young pitchers in MLB.
And, for what it’s worth, 9 innings, 1 run is a darn good game, regardless of the league you’re pitching in. Not everyone does that with regularity. And Hughes did not have his best stuff last night, out of his own mouth. So, maybe last night, Pelfry was better than Hughes. But, really, why care?????????????????????
Hughes did a good job for the Yankees, is doing an overall great job for the Yankees, and promises to do really well for the Yankees going forward. It’s all good.
I read this Pelfry vs. Hughes several times today, and I was avoiding comment, but I just hit my tipping point. Sorry.
orioles to interview Valentine.
they better do something or they will lose this franchise.
Carl,
I know. That’s why I said what I said. Little Piggy Wiggy isn’t hot enough to get my sympathy. But Nicky needs to play in a market where he’ll get more, um, exposure.
Doreen, I guess I disagree with you……..or we like baseball for differerent reasons. As I said before your repost, I have no idea why it’s a problem to compare players. It’s done all the time – I find it’s part of the charm of baseball; I guess different strokes for different folks.
# m June 9th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Carl,
I know. That’s why I said what I said. Little Piggy Wiggy isn’t hot enough to get my sympathy. But Nicky needs to play in a market where he’ll get more, um, exposure.
lol
Steve Sax’s arm June 9th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
i thought there was a few others who were on the hughes bandwagon besides betsy. maybe pat m and randy. am i wrong about this.
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everyone forgets about me
Betsy
He is a troll because he went after one comment I made a while ago and I never saw that nam,e before.
Second, All I said was that the NL is weaker than the AL which is a fact. Third, Why do you give more props to other teams than the Yankees ?
I just think Phil will be a better pitcher so don’t get mad at me because I’m not on the “Pelfrey is so great and a big game pitcher bandwagon”.
I’m not mad at you Jeremy – why would I be mad at you? We’re just having a conversation…………
How long is CC going to be mediocre?
mick
Arrieta is righty.
That’s what Gardner out the line up cost the Yankees, with Russo in, he’s an automatic out.
Him as the 9th bat, is like an NL line up, with the pitcher knowing he will be an easy out.
thanks pat
Jeremy
Maybe Betsy gives more props to other teams than the Yankees because of superstition. I know I never praise Hughes or many Yankees for fear of jinxing them.
Actually I should have said why do you give more props to other players than Yankee players ?
Man, CC is behind every hitter.
Betsy
Yeah I shouldn’t have said that you were mad at me because that’s not the case.
Hideki Irabu is better than CC.
…at hopping around like a fat toad.
“Joe Jackson the ballplayer – not Joe Jackson the singer……….”
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ohhh, that Joe Jackson
And Hideki Irabu has a smaller carbon footprint, too.
Listen, when we get another bat, Russo will be gone.
Butholez throwing 96+
Butholez > C.C.
“orioles to interview Valentine.
they better do something or they will lose this franchise”
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you have that right. Even the Arizona Cardinals & Cinncinati Bengals have passed them up. Only the Detroit Lions and Pittsburgh Pirates stand in their way.
CC doesn’t look sharp at all.
I really dont like this guy. Going to the opposite field. What a joke.
Great to see the usual Red Sox trolls in the thread.
cc needs warm weather
the Indians better get this run in.
Betsy -
You miss my point. Of course part of the attraction, charm, allure, of baseball is talking about players and comparing them.
What gets me everyone getting in an uproar because someone dared to say Pelfrey was better than Hughes last night. Or that Buccholz might be a better pitcher than Hughes or that ANYONE might be a better pitcher than Hughes.
Maybe I’m missing something.
Hughes is a very good young pitcher. There are a few very good young pitchers right now. I think they’re going to take turns being “the best” on any given night. But what some media person says on the radio isn’t gospel. that’s all.
sj
youre usually not here during games
come on choo choo. hit one out.
Butholez > Buchholtz
# chris June 9th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Hideki Irabu is better than CC.
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Sick much ?
It seems that our pitchers give up many runs with two outs.
It would be sweet for many reasons if Masterson beats Buchholz and the Sox.
:@
I don’t know how the Yanks get up for crap teams like this.
Must be hard.
i come thru this blog every few weeks and it seems like many regular posters are not here that much anymore. why is that ?
CC went downhill fast. He should seek out Strasburg as pitching coach. Pedroia is happy about the hole in the Gulf.
Yeah Clay is better than Sabathia now. Sabathia is no longer an ace.
# qiantom June 9th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
It seems that our pitchers give up many runs with two outs.
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Does it matter how many outs ?
jack reed, my caddy! how are ya?
O’s take the lead?
CR, I give props to other teams/players when I think they are deserved. It’s not out of superstition or anything else – that’s it.
It should be a joy to see your Ace on the mound. CC throws so many pitches ,gives up bases, and or walks that you just wish for him to get someone out quickly. I still believe if his core were in shape, he’d use a lot less pitches.
It was bound to happen, Oriioles score first, he’s already is laboring, and not putting anyone away. I’ve never seen an Ace like him, huge pitch count innings from the start.
i come thru this blog every few weeks and it seems like many regular posters are not here that much anymore. why is that ?
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Why the concern? They are on hiatus.
# Jeremy June 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Yeah Clay is better than Sabathia now. Sabathia is no longer an ace.
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You would make a good towel guy !!!
This whole one young pitcher is better some other young pitcher.. Who cares?? Hughes, pelfey, Lester, buckholtz, etc are all good pitchers… Which is the best?? Who cares and what difference does it make.. They are all good
Blah blah blah Steals run yourself out of innings
When and where is Eiland?
He is the fault to the pitching problem.
And if anyone thought I was serious I wasn’t.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
jack reed, my caddy! how are ya?
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Do you not remember my HR in longest Yankee game ?
Wow. Jeter. Swisher should be captain.
close calls always go against Yankees
Jeremy, are you kidding?
Absolutely no reason to steal against Tillman with Swisher up. Swisher is a flyball batter.
Jeter better think twice before stealing. His speed may be below average right now.
I like the aggresiveness even though he got thrown out. I always like aggressive baseball on the basepaths.
Tex, A-rod, Cano have to make Tillman pay and pickup Jeter
Butholez rules all.
Doreen,
I’m all about comparing pitchers. I only had an issue with comparing him to Pelfrey. Wait until the end of the season when you have a body of work to compare. It’s like a boxing match. The next time Hughes pitches better than Pelfrey is that writer going to update his scorecard?
Like right now, Hughes is pitching better than CC, but he’s not a better pitcher. Ubaldo is pitching the best, but Halladay is still the consensus best pitcher in the game.
It’s not even close, I had wondered out loud why it was even a debate. Which is a good thing. Maybe I’m just grouchy, had a rough night sleeping last night. And the current score is not making me any less grouchy.
Wow this stiff can’t throw a strike and Jeter is trying to steal for some reason.
Jack Reed
It was sarcasm ! Calm down !
CC will get better as the season goes along.
Jack, thank you for that HR, that was the longest game ever.
Before people cry about the Yankees “not being up for the orioles remember they are 9-1 against them
# qiantom June 9th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Jeter better think twice before stealing. His speed may be below average right now.
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Thanks, COACH !
Betsy
Yes I was kidding.
mick,
Goodness gracious. You know that Eiland’s out for personal reasons. Obviously there are more important things for him right now.
They should have already have a couple of runs off of this joker on the mound, dude stinks and can’t throw strikes instead dead at bats.
Before people cry about the Yankees “not being up for the orioles remember they are 9-1 against them
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when did they beat us?
I love Hughes but he has to prove he can be a durable starter for an entire season.. But so far so good
The Yankees offense is beyond pathetic.. CAN CASHMAN PLEASE GET ON THE PHONE AND GET THIS TEAM A DA MN HITTER.
CC is at 42 pitches for 2 innings, Tillman just finished 48 after 3!
M, that was a ridiculous article. If Ian O’ Connor wants to write about Pelfrey, that’s fine..but trying to make his point by saying he pitched better than Phil did is asinine …………which I think you agree with.
mick-
I think it was the first time they played in Baltimore. The O’s won the first game of that series in a real sloppy and lifeless performance by the Yanks
“# Sprinters don’t slide June 9th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Before people cry about the Yankees “not being up for the orioles remember they are 9-1 against them”
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Frankly I’m sick of seeing the Orioles, the Yankees beating them don’t too much impress me in the big picture. Its just taking care of business, nothing more.
We went to Toronto and almost got swept meanwhile Tampa is tearing Toronto a new one. Up again tonight after a 9-0 beat down last night.
The same Toronto who looked all fabulous against us.
I’d like to know what is happening with Eiland, that’s all.
Jeremy, good lol – sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet.
Sprinters, that’s very true.
note to Ken Rosenthal:
Montero for Cliff Lee = no
Kim Jones on Swisher- “I’m a buns guy”….interesting, cant say I disagree
Orioles 5-4 on April 27
tyler, that’s right. funny i was at that series, game 2 or 3, when cano hit 2, AJ vs Matuzs
Yep the Yankees offense stinks ! CashMoron can’t do anything right. We need more All Stars in the lineup Cash !
/sarcasm
friendly note to vinny
Ken Rosenthal = no brain
game 2 aj follows cc
“CASHMAN PLEASE GET ON THE PHONE AND GET THIS TEAM A DA MN HITTER”
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NYY doesn’t need a hitter. They need Texeria to put up the numbers, on his baseball card
oh the dramatic….
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Jack, thank you for that HR, that was the longest game ever.
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Hey, I was there too.
whatever says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:00 pm
The Yankees offense is beyond pathetic.. CAN CASHMAN PLEASE GET ON THE PHONE AND GET THIS TEAM A DA MN HITTER.
This “pathetic” offense only is in the top three of total runs scored if not the top… They average about 5 runs a game or there about.. Only if theyaveraged 10
m -
It just sounded like so much whining to me – giving far too much credence to the opinion of some radio guy/tv guy/writer guy. Most of the time (not all), their opinions are not worth the angst. They’re no more valid than yours, mine, or anyone else’s here and sometimes less so, because their opinions are contrived to encourage controversy – i.e., hits on a blog, calls and/or viewers. So if the source of the upsetting was some talk show guy, why waste any more energy on it?
Having arguments among friends and acquaintances are different and part of the lore of baseball. I no longer take what I see in print, hear on the radio/tv for the gospel truth.
And the thing is Pelfrey has been pitching well — very well lately. Is it too much to suggest that he may have turned a career corner? He’s been excellent for the Mets. And he has had a couple of great games in a row. But it has nothing to do with Hughes. So, if the radio guy was saying Pelfry had a better game than Hughes, he’s right. If he’s saying Pelfry is better than Hughes, it’s going to take a couple of years before any statements like that can definitely be made – and that’s regarding any of today’s young pitchers.
Look at Clay ! Must be a bust because he gave up 3 runs to the inept Indians.
something tells me you might be the real Joe Pepitone…
Just where do you want this new hitter to play? What position do we need to fill?
“This “pathetic” offense only is in the top three of total runs scored if not the top”
it is the top, 5 runs better than Boston.
how could you lose that ball in the shirtsleeves joe?
But Pelfry DID pitch better than Hughes LAST NIGHT. What is wrong with acknowledging that???
clearly CC is struggling.
Can offense pick him up?
“# Jeremy June 9th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Yep the Yankees offense stinks ! CashMoron can’t do anything right. We need more All Stars in the lineup Cash !
/sarcasm”
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No one suggests this Yankee offense stinks, but something that bugs me is their poor situational approach to hitting.
Its like they have to get all the hits and runs in the inning or they stall out.
How about advance men on base, sacrifice them in.
For example Granderson was up in the count, 1st and 2nd in the 2nd inning, no outs and he hits the ball to left field, and he is a pull hitter at that. Ugh.
Instead of pulling the ball to right field and advancing the runner to 3rd. Those kind of situations where you just squander chances.
Pelfry vs Hughes is a wash.. Give it three years
Just where do you want this new hitter to play? What position do we need to fill?
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the new hitter will dh, po will catch
Not very happy that Tillman’s ERA is falling faster than the sky. It’s already dropped 2.3 runs in 3 IP today.
What’s so difficult about getting the 3rd out?
Buchholtz the great has given up 3 ER in 4 innings to the Indians……he’s no Butholez for sure.
Fatso is horrible.
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:08 pm
But Pelfry DID pitch better than Hughes LAST NIGHT. What is wrong with acknowledging that???
He did and that does not mean he is better hughes has to prove he can stay solid the whole
year as a starter and most important stay healthy
bad throw, runners should just stay on 1b and 2b.
lol @ Kay.
Tampa 5-0 up on Toronto, pounding Marcum
LOL, go figure, Toronto looked all invincible against us
ck June 9th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
something tells me you might be the real Joe Pepitone…
7777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
Me too
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos June 9th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
m -
It just sounded like so much whining to me – giving far too much credence to the opinion of some radio guy/tv guy/writer guy.
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Doreen
And therein lies the rub.
Doesn’t it seem that some posters put too much credence in what others say?
Others being reporters. When after all aren’t we all frustrated reporters, just unpaid?
mick says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Just where do you want this new hitter to play? What position do we need to fill?
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the new hitter will dh, po will catch
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agree they need a dh but who do you get , what do you give up and how muh salary do you take on??
Macfan
Yes the Yankees do need to improve a little bit when it comes to situational hitting.
What happened to Dave Eiland?
Sprinters -
Not for nothing (I love Phil Hughes), but so does Hughes.
63 pitches wow
Hey Roland, have ya seen Turley or Duren, where have they been?
Maybe Bill Stafford knows.
Or Tom Sturdivant.
Doreen, you’re missing the point. Why didn’t O’Connor leave Phil out of it? How does Pelfrey pitching better than Phil last night prove that Pelfrey is better?
all right, not that bad after all
That’s why Erica should not make the deal for Shawn Marcum. Good pitcher, indeed, but pitching in the AL East is a difficult challenge to do all year long.
# Sprinters don’t slide June 9th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
mick says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Just where do you want this new hitter to play? What position do we need to fill?
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the new hitter will dh, po will catch
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agree they need a dh but who do you get , what do you give up and how muh salary do you take on??
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Berkman would be a good choice
there will be bargains at the trade deadline, konerko?
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Sprinters -
Not for nothing (I love Phil Hughes), but so does Hughes.
So does Hughes what u lost me?
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Hey Roland, have ya seen Turley or Duren, where have they been?
Maybe Bill Stafford knows.
Or Tom Sturdivant.
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Doreen, that’s what he was saying – Phil has to prove he can stay healthy and perform over the course of a whole year.
I have given props to Pelfrey and Buchholz – I’m not sure what else I can do. I have NO clue who is better because I don’t know enough about pitching to determine that.
so she doesnt throw marcum against the yankees, if you have enough pitching you have options
“# Jeremy June 9th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Macfan
Yes the Yankees do need to improve a little bit when it comes to situational hitting.”
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I’ll say no reason against a guy like Tillman who can’t even throw strikes consistently they shouldn’t have gotten a run in with 1st and 2nd and no outs.
What I found odd is Granderson pulls almost every pitch and that one he didn’t. When if he did a fly ball gets the runner to 3rd possibly. Frustrating to see innings like that just peter out.
Doreen,
lol, he did say that @ 8:00. ^^
Sprinters don’t slide
I think Hughes will be fine in terms of his health. He had some freak injuries over the past couple of years which could have happened to anyone. But I agree that we should hold off on all this Pelfrey/ Hughes talk that media keeps talking about.
“there will be bargains at the trade deadline, konerko?”
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Chone Figgins
Yankees really Paul konerko?? Really?? Come on we don’t need him
Another run, and another 21 pitch count inning CC;s at 63 after 3 Tillman is at 48, no runs. CC isn’t on his game tonight at all!
fats better lay off the burritos before pitching, he’s been horrible the last 2 months
and looks like teixeira back to his old tricks again – how many more years of the dynamic duo stinking up the joint?
no “medicine” for arod = average player
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Hey Roland, have ya seen Turley or Duren, where have they been?
Maybe Bill Stafford knows.
Or Tom Sturdivant.
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Ooops, I died ! #15
Betsy =
Who cares that he mentioned Hughes? That’s the point. He’s got to fill space in a column. Controversy sells – gets his name mentioned. Why belabor his unnecessary point by having it be a point of discussion here for breakfast, lunch and dinner?
What if Pelfry pitched well, and Hughes pitched better last night and his column said something along the lines of “even though Pelfry was masterful last night, he could not match the mastery of the Young Master Hughes?” Would you be so upset that he brought up Hughes in an article about Pelfry?
Another runner on for the Yankees lets see what comes of this.
But does it really matter if someone thinks someone is better than someone else?? Pelfry vs hughes , clay b vs Hughes who cares??
It’s pouring. Stop the game. Come on umps!
Great, now its raining. Thanks, Pedroia, you Earth hater.
infield hit from Posada is coming
Controversy sells – gets his name mentioned. Why belabor his unnecessary point by having it be a point of discussion here for breakfast, lunch and dinner
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Very funny, Doreen, and true. Well said.
Why are they not stopping the game.
Looks like the ump favors right-hand pitchers?
Ace Ventura is better
Another troll
# Bob Cerv June 9th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Hey Roland, have ya seen Turley or Duren, where have they been?
Maybe Bill Stafford knows.
Or Tom Sturdivant.
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Ran into the Moose,” Bill Skowron ! # 14
Hey Pepi…what happened with the shirtsleeves?
Sprinters -
Misread your post – I added a word in my mind’s eye that wasn’t there. You were saying Hughes hs to stay healthy, etc., and I thought you were saying Pelfry had to stay healthy etc. Sorry about that.
Is this what all the hub-bub is about?
-Pelfrey wasn’t Stephen Strasburg on Tuesday night, and he wasn’t quite the pitcher he’s often measured against, Matt Cain, who threw a complete-game shutout at the Reds.
But Pelfrey did outpitch another comparable, Phil Hughes, and he did it with a little John Wayne swagger.-
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5266126
Really?
Doreen, I do – I thought it was ridiculous; oh well – we’ll have to disagree.
That scenario doesn’t make sense; he wrote an article trying to bolster Pelfrey’s status as an ace. Fine. What exactly was the point in bringing up that he pitched better than Phil last night? Sorry, that was just a completely pointless comment meant to tweak Yankee fans.
Since I think you’re implying that I’m completely biased towards Phil to the point of not being objective, I’m going to drop this because I won’t be able to convince you otherwise and I’m not going to try. I’m so biased towards Phil that I have my doubts about him. Ok.
Good job. At least we got a run. I see the umps aint stopping this game like they stopped a certain game earlier this year with 1 out remaining in the bottom of the 5th inning.
does it seem like CC has pitched every game in the rain so far this year?
It is the weekly CC rain
Damn, Cervelli’s AVG has fallen faster than the Euro against the Dollar.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Hey Pepi…what happened with the shirtsleeves?
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Caught in hair dryer ?
Doreen you don’t have to apologize to me.. You are one of the few excellent posters here
I don’t really see any way the O’s win this game UNLESS its shortened.
I spoke to Hector Lopez on the phone once. Nice guy.
Hank Bauer.
This team is totally lost without Brett Gardner.
looks like they’re going to wait until the Yankees go down in the 5th. Then call this game for the O’s
Betsy
I havent read the back and forth. I can only as-sume that you believe an article written by some columnist was a travesty.
Here’s the only bit of advice I can provide to you other than the wise advice that Doreen provided (of controversy sells).
These columnists are criminals and they have absolutely no professionalism or integrity.
The best you are ever going to bet regarding professionalism is right here with Chad and Sam. It has helped out my anger quite a bit staying away from ESPN and any Yankees article away from this site.
Are there people named “Silt”, “Sand”, “Dirt”, “Rock”, “Stone”, too?
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I spoke to Hector Lopez on the phone once. Nice guy.
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A great sub in his day !
Still not stopping the game. They stopped a game with us one out away from an official game against the Red Sox, but they AINT stopping this one.
CC is having problems with the mound and can’t stay closed at the top of his delivery.
They shouldn’t be playing in this.
Dangerous field conditions.
“# igotid88 June 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
looks like they’re going to wait until the Yankees go down in the 5th. Then call this game for the O’s”
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I wouldn’t expect anything less from these umpires.
What I would like to know is why the Yankees only have 1 run so far off of this stiff Tillman, he can’t even throw strikes consistently.
ick June 9th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Hank Bauer.
Hal Reniff
We’re going to have to score a run next inning, God-willing.
CR, no the article wasn’t a travesty; I had a problem with one comment. To be honest, I’m confused as to the point of this discussion. Are people upset because they don’t want Phil to be compared to any other pitchers? If so, then I don’t get that.
Kent Hadley.
Joe DeMaestri.
Yankees need to score a run next inning. Don’t let the umps ruin things by calling a cheap 2-1 Orioles shortened win.
Bud Daley–I saw you pitch.
I talked with Clete Boyer about 10 years ago. Another nice guy.
Betsy
Why do you even bother reading much of the stuff you read? I swear, these NY papers are worse than tabloids. I’d rather read The Sun or DailyMail or TMZ or PerezHilton than the jerkoffs who write for NY newspapers.
You will see the tarp make its entry one second after the 3rd out in the top of the 5th, unless we get the lead.
6-0 Tampa over Toronto, Yanks would do well to win this to stay 2 back.
Marcum is getting lit up like a Christmas tree.
I’d rather lose a game than play in these conditions; the Yankees got a cheap win against Texas that way
Tillman 67 pitches after 4. CC 73, finally a 10pitch inning after 4 .
He was on pace to be out in 6, with 21 pitches an inning.
Chone figgins was put 9th in the batting order, he’s not the same this year.
the Yankees will score this inning, 3rd time through the order against a very young pitcher…
LOL! They are still playing in this horrendous weather.
Lets have a good game TEX.Please!
nice bunt by russo
oh thedramatic…a bunt single by the grear Russo
CR, I don’t know, lol. I do have writers I avoid completely, like Madden and Lupica; I couldn’t be paid enough to read their bunk.
tom in NJ -
thanks for lnking that article.
I can’t believe that is what this controversy is about.
For a couple of years there have been a lot of questions about Pelfrey, whether he was going to amount to anything. And finally, he is showing why the Mets believed in him.
Looks like he was compared to a few of his contemporaries, and it just so happens that last night he “outpitched” Phil Hughes.
The way this topic was discussed, I thought the article was actually about how (in what ways) Pelfrey was better than Hughes. It was a limited statement. He was using comparisons to contempary pitchers to build a picture of where Pelfrey is fitting in.
Why not take it as a pat on Hughes’ back that he is mentioned in the same two-sentence space as Lincecum and Matt Cain and Strasburg, rather than a knock against him? He’s merely saying Pelfrey belongs in the discussion with these guys. That’s all.
Betsy, I don’t think you’re biased; I do think you’re overly sensitive to perceived undue criticism of Phil.
You almost always go out on a limb to give credit where it’s due. But when it comes to Hughes, it really is like you’re protecting your cub. It stands out like a sore thumb against all your statements about respecting the opponents and how one shouldn’t underestimate all these other teams – and I think you’re right about that – I agree with that. Phil is your blindspot in some ways. I am like this with my kids – I can criticize them all I want, but no one else is allowed. To a certain extent, I’m like that with my Yankees, too, with non-Yankees fans – I can say CC stinks tonight, but my stepdad who doesn’t like baseball? If he has anything to say, I bristle. It’s emotional, not rational.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Joe DeMaestri.
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Hal “Skinny” Brown
****** over
way to go Jete
Derek Jeter has no game awareness
erica…grab marcum tonight while his value is down, get garcia too…get as many decent pitchers as you can and drop em when you feel like it.
“# MG June 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
the Yankees will score this inning, 3rd time through the order against a very young pitcher…”
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Then of course the umps will call for the tarp before the bottom of the 5th and an official game.
Jeter! All right! El Capitan comes through in the clutch! That was so Jeterian. Pedroia hates puppies.
Thats why Erica shouldnt take Marcum. Because he is an AL East pitcher for a team not named the Red Sox, Rays, or Yankees. He will not perform the entire year the way he has performed thus far.
Jeter needs to take a pitch more often.
# austinmac June 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Bud Daley–I saw you pitch.
I talked with Clete Boyer about 10 years ago. Another nice guy.
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Like my short arm ?
ya just neva no wit pitchers
Grounded into the DP following up on his bonehead caught stealing, what is the captain thinking given the situation.
400 foot flyout.
just barely missed it. what a ……. joke. pieces of …….. …..
tarp down yet?
I fail to see what the issue with the Hughes comment is. There was nothing unprofessional about it. O’Connor was talking about Pelfry in the context of how he pitched last night. He wasn’t as good as Stephen Strasburg or Matt Cain, but, last night, he was better than Hughes.
How was that wrong?
Remember when people complained that the Yankees were getting shut down by Masterson?
His line against the Red Sox so far tonight: 6 ip, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 68 pitches
# Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I fail to see what the issue with the Hughes comment is. There was nothing unprofessional about it. O’Connor was talking about Pelfry in the context of how he pitched last night. He wasn’t as good as Stephen Strasburg or Matt Cain, but, last night, he was better than Hughes.
How was that wrong?
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The Baseball Intelligencia objects.
Oh well. This would be a bad way to lose this one. Jeter has ran themselves out of two innings, getting thrown out trying to steal and the dp. Not sure about swinging so early in the count with the weather, rookie pitcher seemingly losing the grip on the ball. Did him a favor there. But you live by hitting like that and you die by it. This time it hurt. If he hit a line drive single than it would have been good. I just really hope they don’t lose a cheap game here with CC. This was a matchup they should have easily taken.
no tarp down. oh my god. are the umps losing their touch.
How did I know when Russo finally gets on base, Jeter would GDIP?
9 pitches retires the side, thanks Jeter!
Boy either the Yankees were really poor or the Rays are really good
7-0 now over Tampa, following the heels of a 9-0 drubbing yesterday of Toronto. Who the Yankees could barely beat in the 8th inning of the last game to avoid the sweep.
Wow.
Doreen, I have given my props to Pelfrey, so to be honest, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I have given credit to Buchholz as well – and as I have said I have NO idea if Phil is better, worse or the same. I can name a few people who have said Phil was far better than Pelfrey, but I’m not going to bother.
Really needed to get one there….stop raining please.
I should have just said, I agree with Doreen.
or will they just wait until the end of this half inning, allowing CC to pitch one more inning in this horrendous weather.
Also, Doreen, wasn’t I the one who recently got through saying that I didn’t think Phil was looking like a future #1? When I said that, holy moly – people reacted like I tortured their dog.
“7-0 now over Tampa,”*
Over Toronto that is
An edit feature would be nice for blog posting
The rain has stopped.
Feel pretty good about the Yankees chances if it goes 9 innings…hopefully it will.
acfan June 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Boy either the Yankees were really poor or the Rays are really good
7-0 now over Tampa, following the heels of a 9-0 drubbing yesterday of Toronto. Who the Yankees could barely beat in the 8th inning of the last game to avoid the sweep.
Wow.
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By that logic, TB is a better team than we. If A then B = C. Doesn’t work that way in BBall.
I know if the home team is up they can call it after top 5, otherwise bottom. Can they call the game at any point going forward no matter the situation, what happens if the NYY are up at bat and still down, does that matter with these new rules?
I like the Yanks chances in 9 inning games.
nice play by the bust at SS there!
nice play by the Captain in the mud…thats a tough play in these conditions.
Mike_Boston
If this score remains the same, they can end it anytime. However, if the Yanks take the lead any subsequent inning, the Orioles must given a chance in the bottom of the inning.
anyone who thinks O’Connor’s column included a statement that Pelfrey is better than Hughes either hasn’t read the article or is paranoid. There is one mention of Hughes in the entire article, which really tells Mets fans to appreciate Pelfrey a little more. The one mention of Phil is that Pelfrey outpitched Hughes LAST NIGHT, which he did. What is the problem?
“# SJ44 June 9th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
The rain has stopped.”
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Guess it was passing through which is why they kept playing. Thank goodness.
Yanks have no business losing to Chris Tillman.
Don Mattingly could hit a grand slam with nobody on. Now that is a captain. Pedroia is a major holder of BP stock.
MG
Just so we’re clear, I didnt read the article! I dont read any articles whatsoever. It helps with my anger!
Macfan says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Grounded into the DP following up on his bonehead caught stealing, what is the captain thinking given the situation.
Do you actually think he was thinking about hitting into a Doule play.. I also love
when people cry about caught stealings… They are part of the game you steal sometimes u get throw out
Although my idiot brother gets joy out of calling me and alerting me to things that are written/said because he loves hearing my rage! Lupica supposedly said that Don Larsen’s perfect game ended on a cheap strike 3 call!
CR9 June 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
MG
Just so we’re clear, I didnt read the article! I dont read any articles whatsoever. It helps with my anger!
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here is the only mention of Phil in the column:
Pelfrey wasn’t Stephen Strasburg on Tuesday night, and he wasn’t quite the pitcher he’s often measured against, Matt Cain, who threw a complete-game shutout at the Reds.
But Pelfrey did outpitch another comparable, Phil Hughes, and he did it with a little John Wayne swagger. At 6-foot-7, Pelfrey came across big enough and tough enough to earn an OTA invite from Rex Ryan, who threw out the ceremonial first pitch before spending all 11 innings in a seat behind home plate.
“# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Macfan June 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Boy either the Yankees were really poor or the Rays are really good
7-0 now over Toronto, following the heels of a 9-0 drubbing yesterday of Toronto. Who the Yankees could barely beat in the 8th inning of the last game to avoid the sweep.
Wow.
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By that logic, TB is a better team than we. If A then B = C. Doesn’t work that way in BBall.”
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Well actually technically speaking Tampa is better than the Yankees, standings wise anyway as we speak.
Betsy -
Did I not just write that you almost always give props – give credit where it’s due? I know I wrote that. This has nothing to do with that.
This has to do with over-reacting to one sentence in an article about Pelfrey in which for one night he was favorably compared over Phil Hughes. It wasn’t about criticizing Hughes. You can’t seem to see it was about Pelfrey finally finding his place among the best pitchers of his generation, including Hughes.
Of all those guys he mentioned, on any given night any one of them is able to outpitch any other of them – it’s really pointing out how special they all are.
So that’s why I don’t get why you got so upset by this. You saw it as a negative; I saw it as, wow, look where Hughes is now. Lincecum, Cain and Strasburg (which may be slightly premature) are among his peers. These are the best of the next wave. Isn’t that great? Who’s better is going to be decided over a career, and even then, maybe not.
If Hughes was the only pitcher he mentioned, I’d almost understand what you were getting at.
Do you actually think he was thinking about hitting into a Doule play.. I also love
when people cry about caught stealings… They are part of the game you steal sometimes u get throw out
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Jete must have not seen Joe’s Do Not Hit Into A DP sign.
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
# Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I fail to see what the issue with the Hughes comment is. There was nothing unprofessional about it. O’Connor was talking about Pelfry in the context of how he pitched last night. He wasn’t as good as Stephen Strasburg or Matt Cain, but, last night, he was better than Hughes.
How was that wrong?
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The Baseball Intelligencia objects.
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Mick, you were doin’ so great until you misspelled INTELLIGENTSIA.
I’ll leave you with a few more : Blanchard, Bridges, Linz, and Long. ( Kubek too )
CR9, guess what? The strikeout pitch to Dale Mitchell was very, very questionable, it was high and away and a gift from a very good umpire, Babe Pinelli.
MG
I dont really see anything wrong with that. He did it in the context of comparing him to other pitchers he has been associated with.
With that said, I still wouldnt read any those columnists and would advise Betsy to do the same.
“# Sprinters don’t slide June 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Macfan says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Grounded into the DP following up on his bonehead caught stealing, what is the captain thinking given the situation.
Do you actually think he was thinking about hitting into a Doule play.. I also love
when people cry about caught stealings… They are part of the game you steal sometimes u get throw out”
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What benefit is there for Jeter to steal off of Chris Tillman with Nick Swisher at the plate, this is not Ubaldo Jiminez on the mound, where you have to try and take chances for a run.
This is a kid that can’t even throw strikes consistently and you give up an out by getting caught stealing.
Perhaps the Yanks should sit curveball.
So that’s why I don’t get why you got so upset by this. You saw it as a negative; I saw it as, wow, look where Hughes is now.
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Isn’t that always the problem? Seeing the negative. And doesn’t the negative get more attention than the positive? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…..
MG
Re: the pitch. I believe you, and Im sure it was. I just didnt see any need for Lupica to mention it other than he’s a notorious Yankees hater. For all I know, it could have been and 0-2 count. A 3-2 count cheap strike 3 would be much more worthy of mentioning than an 0-2 strike 3.
Luis Arroyo to you 57 Yank
CR9 June 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
MG
I dont really see anything wrong with that. He did it in the context of comparing him to other pitchers he has been associated with.
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I thought it was a good column, it basically said that there were 3 other really good young pitchers on the mound last night besides Strassburg, and, for one night Cain>Pelfrey>Hughes. They all won, of course…
That ball was absolutely hammered….nice baserunning by Tex.
Pedroia down to .249
Sox fans may not even be able to vote for their guy for the ASG without feeling ill.
dont you mean intelligensia?
CANDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HES ON FIREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goodbye home run!
“7-0 now over Toronto, following the heels of a 9-0 drubbing yesterday of Toronto. Who the Yankees could barely beat in the 8th inning of the last game to avoid the sweep.
Wow.”
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baseball is a game of streaks, hot hitting, good pitching, etc
The Yankees offense is capable of going on a ridiculous tear at any point. Toronto pitched well against a relatively cold offense. It happens.
Next time it could be the complete opposite. Tampa’s offense has had similar cold streaks this year against even weaker pitching.
Makes little sense to make such judgments on very small samples.
Betsy -
My other point about being protective of Phil is that of course you allow yourself to be critical of him – it’s when other people (mostly media) are critical of him that it raises your hackles. I’m not saying your not fair about Phil or able to see when he does well or not – you obviously are. But you’re emotionally invested in him – or in his career – or his success.
That’s why I brought up my kids. My kids are not perfect. I am perfect able to to see their talents and their flaws, but I don’t really want other people (who are not family) pointing them out. That’s how I see and Phil Hughes.
That’s when I started following them. they lost to Braves in 57′ and came back the next year down 3 games to 1 and won ! Used to live and die with every pitch, now so so much. Just icing on the cake at this point. Still “love em’” though !!!
Luis was outstanding. Ralph terry used to drive me insane with his slow curve. ( for HR’s )
Wow looks like the Yankees may have been Toronto’s last hurrah.
I thought Toronto would struggle with their upcoming schedule up to the All Star Break that is brutal
Tampa
@ Colorado
@ San Diego
San Francisco
St. Louis
Philadelphia
@ Cleveland
@ Yankees
Minnesota
Boston
They are getting mauled again by Tampa, 9-0 now after 9-0 last night. Geez.
Big pitch here. Can’t see how he throws him a fastball over the plate
come on, Cano!
atta boy Cano
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, when u r hot, u hit everything.
Finally a ball bounces the Yankees way! Go Cano!!!
(Yes, I am watching the game.
)
Better to be lucky than good and just so happens that Cano is both.
How does the Jays losing one game dicatate how the rest of the series go????? They are playing against Price who if the season ends today is the AL Cy Young winner and they are on the road?
I met Whitey Ford at his grandsons graduation on LI, got a pic and autograph.
He looked lost and his daughter found him with us.
Chainsaw says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Pedroia down to .249
Sox fans may not even be able to vote for their guy for the ASG without feeling ill.
To be fair a lot of Yankee fans are voting for Tex
dp score a run
3-25 off the dl for jorge, not good.
Good job Robbie, lets blow this game open now.
Cano is incendiary
The ball that Tex got a hit on probably would have been fielded cleanly by Cano and the ball Cano got a hit on would have been fielded cleanly by Tex, lol.
Give the sac fly sign Joe.
Robbieeeeeeeeeeeeeee canooooooo! yesssssssssssss
Posada just needs to get the ball in play.
Thanks O’s
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They couldnt record 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, just get it in play. Bad teams beat themselves too !!!
that’s my plan, but O’s blow it.
Orioles being Orioles.
PO PO way to go now he’s 3-26
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
I met Whitey Ford at his grandsons graduation on LI, got a pic and autograph.
He looked lost and his daughter found him with us.
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Gotta say he was my favorite pitcher of all. 236 wins, but NEVER had a bad year or high era!!!
Joe girardi gave the throwing error on the double
play sign
woooohooooooo
“The ball that Tex got a hit on probably would have been fielded cleanly by Cano ”
eh, that ball hit the lip but then again Cano does have ninja reflexes so I guess he would have had a shot.
O’s throwin it all over the yard.
Maybe Izturis needs to go to the Cano school of footwork and turning 2!
Robbi got lucky on that bouncer but the only reason luck even factored into it was the outstanding plate discipline Cano showed with two strikes.
Tillman tried to get Robbi to expand the zone several times. And on the pitches that couldn’t be hit – Robbi just laid off. That’s the different between him this year and last, especially with RISP. Last year he strikes out in that at bat on a bad pitch.
It’s not even the walks. It’s the strike zone command and refusal to expand the zone.
Robbi no longer offers at the pitchers pitch and in turn isn’t getting himself out.
THe Grandy Man Can!
Posada is the best. I love that man. He is the true embodiment of the spirit of baseball. Let them eat cake.
Time for Cervelli to get in the groove again. What better time than right now???? Just hope Jorge takes it slow running in the rain. Scared a bit there.
“Pedroia down to .249
Sox fans may not even be able to vote for their guy for the ASG without feeling ill.
To be fair a lot of Yankee fans are voting for Tex”
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very fair. Tex doesn’t deserve it and he almost certainly won’t be there. Morneau, Cabrera, and Youk are more than worthy.
“baseball is a game of streaks, hot hitting, good pitching, etc
The Yankees offense is capable of going on a ridiculous tear at any point. Toronto pitched well against a relatively cold offense. It happens.
Next time it could be the complete opposite. Tampa’s offense has had similar cold streaks this year against even weaker pitching.
Makes little sense to make such judgments on very small samples.”
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Very good point, I am just shocked at how good their pitching looked against us and then they go to Tampa and are getting mauled. They can’t even compete
But I hear you baseball is weird like that with all the up and down streaks over the long season.
I haven’t noticed too many “trade Cano for Kemp” requests lately.
Joe girardi gave the reach first on a wild throw while trying to turn a double play sign
almost a 3run HR.
cervelli 2-25, he needs a rest
Darn. Still want them to score, but Jorge on the basepaths and Curtis with the groin. Always worry in these conditions.
I thouht Tex was leading.. I could be wrong
CB,
it’s amazing how much better his plate discipline is this year.
It’s why he will be able to sustain a high average if he continues to stay disciplined.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
3-25 off the dl for jorge, not good.
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This is why I’ve been saying to people on here to not expect Posada to be a DH even a couple years down the road. He can still play now, but when he’s done catching, who’s to say he’ll be able to hit well enough when he’s 40 ? DOUBT IT ! Love him though.
I’ve seen enough of russo. He’s terrible
The O’s find new ways to lose every game, wow…
3-25 jorge, 2-25 cervy….hmmmm…somethin happenin here
robbie cano learned how to be patient. so much for him being a lazy player
“It’s not even the walks. It’s the strike zone command and refusal to expand the zone.”
It’s true. He can square it up as well as anyone in baseball when he swings at strikes and when he does that he transforms from good player to top 10 in baseball type player.
cervy must be tired, he catched like 100 games,
what it is aint exactly clear…
“# The Phranchise June 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
How does the Jays losing one game dicatate how the rest of the series go????? They are playing against Price who if the season ends today is the AL Cy Young winner and they are on the road?”
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Actually its the second straight game they are getting blown out in, last night was 9-0, tonight 9-1 so far.
8 shutout innings for Masterson against the Sox tonight.
Remember all the crybabies on here whining for days about Masterson shutting down the Yankees and saying he could “never do that to the Red Sox”.
Guess what? WRONG.
Just remember that the Rays offense got perfect game’d by Dallas Braden. I will take every one of the Yankees’ frustrating cold streaks to never have that happen to them.
Tillman at 106 pitches, after 6 Yankees bats woke up when they realized the game was legal and could be called in a rain out.
Tor-1 TB-9
CLE-3 bos-0
I think the SJ impersonater spends more time here than the real one
I think CC smells blood, and W.
Tex was leading until recently but now Morneau has taken the All-Star 1B lead
Although I never typed that on here, and because I believe in honesty, I definitely thought that at the time. I figured the Sox would eat him alive.
1 for 9 with RISP
Baltimore has really had problems…did K just say that?
Cervelli’s average is plummeting but he has hit some balls hard during this streak. It’s not like he’s striking out or even hitting weak ground balls.
Hopefully Joe keeps giving CC the “throw strikes” sign
lol, Kay is the master of stating the obvious and thinking he sounds smart!
“# Ace June 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
I’ve seen enough of russo. He’s terrible”
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LOL, How many men has him and Cervelli stranded tonight.
No way could Cervelli keep hitting the way he was early on but he is falling way off now
As for Russo, I just hope Gardner is all okay to go with the X-Rays negative.
O’s players already begin fall vacation booking.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
cervelli 2-25, he needs a rest
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And a hit ! LOL
Ace
Russo is a bench player. What do you want him to be Bernie Williams ?
YES! Nice inning Big Man!
CC can go 7 innings now. Offense should tack on runs.
This is what the great ones do…they can struggle, but you give them an opening and they slam the door on you.
Even though Cervelli’s young, he probably could use a night off now and again.
Where are the cc sabathia Cry babies??
“# CR9 June 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
lol, Kay is the master of stating the obvious and thinking he sounds smart!”
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LOL, Kay is the ultimate egghead.
cervy needs to be on the bench, po back behind the plate
CC gave himself the W sign
Did singleton just refer to mike Tyson as hot
Good CC another 11 pitch inning ,he’s for the first time behind Tillman (106) in pitch count, at 95 for the same amount of innings way better!!
DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK LANCE BERKMAN FITS THE YANKEES WELL?
It could be BOBBY ABREU Part 2
he makes 14.5 mil this year, he has a club option for 15 million next year. The Astros probably want to dump his salary.
The Yankees are looking for a 1st baseman / leftfielder… also its an added bonus that he’s a switch hitter…. and is versatile.
I COULD TOTALLY SEE BERKMAN IN A YANKEE UNIFORM AT THE DEADLINE…
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
3-25 jorge, 2-25 cervy….hmmmm…somethin happenin here
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Time for Montero. His .216 average would be the best among catchers on the team.
“# RS June 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
CC can go 7 innings now. Offense should tack on runs.”
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Yeah we need more runs I don’t trust Joba, Marte, Robertson or Park with a 1 run lead late and that is an understatement.
blake
but CC is a fat toad and worse than Irabu.
Russo is AWFUL. What is the difference between him and Randy Winn, despite the fact that he is young and homegrown? He stinks…
Cano this season really reminds me of Don Mattingly.
Mattingly was a great offensive player, but one who never drew a lot of walks. He got on base well but it was largely due to his contact skills.
Mattingly, Ichiro, Cano – these are all guys who come from a hitting tradition where the players just have an unbelievable ability to get the bat head on the ball and square pitches up. They have tremendous plate coverage and can just hit or foul off pitches that most hitters – even all star hitters can’t make contact with.
Given that ability to hit the ball, they just aren’t going to walk alot. They will get a huge number of hits.
Now while Mattingly didn’t walk much he still had good strike zone command and plate discipline. Mattingly didn’t swing at the pitchers pitch. He swung at pitches he knew he had a good chance to square up.
Cano has now gotten to that level. He’s no longer simply swinging at pitches because he can make contact with them. He’s waiting for a pitch he can damage.
Wow… listening to Cito Culver’s worship of Derek Jeter makes me feel really old
jorge will hit better as a catcher
I just realized that the Yankees first round pick, Cito Culver, is younger than me.
I turned 18 years old last week. That feels crazy, lol.
Erica, make any deals?
CLE loaded the base with noone out, good.
funny thing is, Baltimore is leaps and bounds better than Cleveland.
That franchise is an embarrassment.
But still glad to see them beating the Sox
CB,
Completely agree.
Nice to see Tex staying back on the changeup.
He’s looking much better from the left side the past few days.
I swear Tex looks like he should be playing middle linebacker somewhere when you see him running the bases.
mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Erica, make any deals?
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Not yet. I am waiting to see how Garcia does this week. I would rather not go for Price. I already have two members of the TB rotation on my team. A third might be overkill
They need to overturn that Tex error call on his ball to Lugo. It might have been safe even fielded cleanly. So obvious it hit the lip of the grass there.
Is Boof Bonser in trouble for the Sox ?
Boston Dave has offered a deal to every player in the league in an attempt to get offense. Boston Dave is desperate for offense.
I COULD TOTALLY SEE BERKMAN IN A YANKEE UNIFORM AT THE DEADLINE…
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do the Yankees really need lance berkman he is old and makes tons of money.. Makes no sense
# whatever June 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK LANCE BERKMAN FITS THE YANKEES WELL?
It could be BOBBY ABREU Part 2
he makes 14.5 mil this year, he has a club option for 15 million next year. The Astros probably want to dump his salary.
The Yankees are looking for a 1st baseman / leftfielder… also its an added bonus that he’s a switch hitter…. and is versatile.
I COULD TOTALLY SEE BERKMAN IN A YANKEE UNIFORM AT THE DEADLINE…
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Agree with you as I said about half hour ago. Plus he getting hot right now. Switch hitter who would not IMO be intimidated by NY. But, who knows for sure ? He last played the outfield in 07′
RS June 9th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I just realized that the Yankees first round pick, Cito Culver, is younger than me.
I turned 18 years old last week. That feels crazy, lol.
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Just wait. I find recently I have been referring to people younger than me as “kids”
Last weekend I overhead a conversation between a bunch of teenage girls and I thought they were the most annoying creatures on the planet
Sprinters don’t slide June 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I COULD TOTALLY SEE BERKMAN IN A YANKEE UNIFORM AT THE DEADLINE…
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do the Yankees really need lance berkman he is old and makes tons of money.. Makes no sense
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Also injury prone at this point
Erica
Get Marcum, Garcia and Bautista for Wright.
You need pitching.
Then we’ll get more pitching.
He won’t give you Price.
informed leaguer June 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Boston Dave has offered a deal to every player in the league in an attempt to get offense. Boston Dave is desperate for offense.
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Now I know his weak spot.
But here I thought I was special and he only wanted to trade with me
.
I can’t beat his team without offense
he looked out
“Russo is AWFUL.”
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that’s the problem with injuries.
and even the mighty Yankees can’t have all-stars on the bench.
The Yanks should feel lucky they had Cervelli to step in for Posada. Thankfully Granderson is back but now Gardy is out.
Russo is a utility guy. And those guys generally don’t hit .300.
But yes, I also feel little confidence that Russo will hit a hard line drive when he’s at bat.
Was he out?
He was safe
Bautista for Wright is a wash.
You get 2 pitchers.
He stockpiled pitchers to get offense. Pitchers are more valuable.
Bonser hits the shower.
still nobody out. 4-0
Erica in NY says:
June 9, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Sprinters don’t slide June 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I COULD TOTALLY SEE BERKMAN IN A YANKEE UNIFORM AT THE DEADLINE…
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do the Yankees really need lance berkman he is old and makes tons of money.. Makes no sense
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Also injury prone at this point
Agree people saying the Yankees need major bat are just being greedy
Please do not make that deal. The league in the firm control of Boston Dave.
Joba Tips his Cap June 9th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Bonser hits the shower.
still nobody out. 4-0
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And of course this happens on the night Buchholz is starting
Please do not make that deal. The league in the firm control of Boston Dave.
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Is he in 1st place?
looked out
Whew! He saved a run there! What a great play.
At least Cano saved the run. Great play.
mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Please do not make that deal. The league in the firm control of Boston Dave.
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Is he in 1st place?
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Yes. 7-2 record
Cano – dominating the game offensively and defensively.
Great hustle play to save a run.
Boston Dave is in 1st place.
wigginton can hit
Hafner grand slam, 9-0
the night is good
Ty winnington is pesky
CB
But Cano is lazy. How did he have great hustle.
you’ve got to make a deal with him or he will runaway with it.
get some of his pitchers, they are his strength
Billy Barooooo!
could boof bonser be worse than gaudin??
cc on fumes
about cano, there was a few bloggers here that predicted that cano would have a big season. greenberet, bo knows, pat m, jerkface and i think it was randy who posted this.
luke scott can blast
CC isn’t the same guy as last year
Ty w is pesky
Come on CC!
They play the Super Mario song at Candem Yards????
That is AWESOME!
Get some of the good pitchers of Boston Dave. Garcia and Markum are not his strength.
berkman? hmmm
Can’t give into Wiggington. Take your chances with Scott.
Thank god i’m a country boy=camden theme song
SJ complimenting Cano? I’ve now seen everything.
# Ace June 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
CC isn’t the same guy as last year
CC sucked in the first half of last year.
Mick-
I made the offer. I don’t think he will give me two pitchers and Bautista, but I offered
formed leaguer June 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Get some of the good pitchers of Boston Dave. Garcia and Markum are not his strength.
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He wont give up his top of the line starters.
informed leaguer June 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Get some of the good pitchers of Boston Dave. Garcia and Markum are not his strength.
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LOL.. Think he will give me Halladay?
YEah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I withdrew the offer.
I would love Halladay… LOL
uh – phew
Where are the CC haters now?
Mommy put them to bed?
Ace says:
June 9, 2010 at 9:30 pm
CC isn’t the same guy as last year
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worst comment of the night
If he says no ask for Marcum.
“Can’t give into Wiggington. Take your chances with Scott.”
It worked out perfectly but even if it hadn’t it would have been the right call. Wiggington is their best hitter this year and you don’t give him a cookie with a lefty on deck. Gutsy performance from the big man.
Then Boston Dave does not get anything. He is desperate for offense. He has offered every team in the league a deal consisting of Garcia. You are in the position of power. He has the surplus of starting pitching.
CC was something like 7-6 at the all-star break last year. He also got off to a slow start with Cleveland in ’08. He’ll be fine.
If you get all three players, then fine. If not, you cannot take only Markum or Garcia and Bautista. You cannot.
Erica, you need to get more pitching elsewhere as well. Start with this and I’ll help you get more.
informed leaguer-
Can I have a hint at who you are?
he pulled a monroe there
too close for comfort
I’ve complimented Cano for two years now.
You just can’t read because you are too busy stalking.
informed leaguer June 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
If you get all three players, then fine. If not, you cannot take only Markum or Garcia and Bautista. You cannot.
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No. Its all 3 or no deal. I am not dumb
It took 19 pitches, but after 7 he got the job done!
bos getting it’s butt kicked, a rout for sure 10-0! Papelbon and Delcarmen out with back problems hurts them a lot.
He might come back with Marcum and another pitcher + Bautista.
Do you think he would go for a deal of Wright & Soriano for Halladay, Garcia and Bautista?
That would be a blockbuster
Alfonso?
Almost Joba Time!!!!!!!!OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Joba coming in for the 8th!!!!
mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Alfonso?
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Yup
not trading halladay
No. You may not.
who are some of his pitchers again?
informed leaguer June 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
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are you boston dave?
I may as well just trade off my players to help another team in the league out.
“# Sacfly June 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Almost Joba Time!!!!!!!!OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!”
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LOL, a piece of time that used to be music to the ears now it just sends the heart rate skipping a few beats.
Amazing the difference in what Joba used to be when he came up and what we now have. A pretty sketchy setup guy.
Boy Cleveland is putting a whooping on Boston 11-0, good.
Please no Joba, anyone but Joba.
At this point, I’d rather see Gaudin
Houston, pay most of Berkman’s contract and it’s a deal!
Great to see Gardy back in
Boston Dave’s pitchers-
Greinke
Halladay
Haren
Lee
Slowey
Garcia
Liriano
Marcum
Price
IF THE YANKEES TRADE FOR LANCE BERKMAN AND PAY him THE 7 or 8 MIL HE’S OWED ON HIS CONTRACT THE REST OF THE YEAR I AM GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHY THE CHEAPO YANKEES COULDN’T SPEND THAT MONEY ON DAMON.
Michael Kay just turned into John sterling
WOW CLE -11 bos-0 Oh baby!
Man how did he get all those pitchers?
Joba will be fine.Its almost BUISNESS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Kay gets so excited about foul balls.
Yeah Boston Dave has serious pitching
Joba is not the same guy he was in 2007. He should be working hard since all of the other young players from the system are getting better.
Why did LaRussa want Randy Winn?
Liriano and Garcia at the very least.
Grandy Man Can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“informed leaguer-
Can I have a hint at who you are?”
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He is The Champs – owned by Michael Leone.
Not trying to be a prick but the last thing people want to read/talk about is other peoples’ fantasy sports. How about taking it off line?
mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Man how did he get all those pitchers?
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he only have one OF in reserve. He has 4 pitchers in reserve. I didn’t even count all of his relievers
I am going for the Halladay blockbuster……
saucY June 9th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
“informed leaguer-
Can I have a hint at who you are?”
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He is The Champs – owned by Michael
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That was my guess too after I looked at the standings
carston charles sabathi, oh K.
like Andrew Eugene Pettitte or Donald Arthur Mattingly.
pretentious.
“# Jim June 9th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Please no Joba, anyone but Joba.
At this point, I’d rather see Gaudin”
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ROFL, I wouldn’t go that far, granted its becoming harder to tell the difference between Joba and Gaudin, when it comes to performance and reliability at times.
so glad Gardner is not seriously hurt
he has been such an asset
Actually Joba is not the same player he was back in 2008 before the injury in Texas.
I am going for the Halladay blockbuster……
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He will laugh at you and you will get nothing.
Get some pitching and then go on to the next team for more.
If you do not make that deal, I will trade you a couple stars off my roster.
yay cervelli gets a hit and a rbi
there’s the cervelli we know
Huge RBI for Cervelli. I knew he had been hitting the ball hard lately even though he wasn’t getting many hits.
Nice. Just the way it’s supposed to work. And about time for Cervi.
Hell yeah Cervie
he stopped going up the middle. which is why he got into a slump.
Masterson gets a complete game shutout
Revenge
mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I am going for the Halladay blockbuster……
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He will laugh at you and you will get nothing.
Get some pitching and then go on to the next team for more.
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Probably, but he can always counter
Thank you Cerevelli!!
Yes insurance run, finally a two out hit and not just a routine end to an inning.
Complete game Shutout for Masterson over Boston, sweet.
Too bad the Rays couldn’t lose as well, stupid Toronto.
You just got CERVD!!!!!!!!!!!!
See how valuable it is to have Gardner on the bench.
Masterson gets a complete game shuto
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he got up for us too
Masterson gets a complete game shutout
==============LOve when people say that.
Is there any other type of shutout?
Back In Scranton Again.
wasn’t that a mac davis song, chad?
The Art of the Deal, right, Erica?
“Masterson gets a complete game shutout”
And Pedroia makes the last out to drop his average to .248.
Can you imagine the heartache of being an Orioles fan?
Way to get your butt in the way Russo!
When was the last time we had anyone hitting as high as Cano at this stage of the season ?
Was it Paul O’Neill ? Don’t google, wanna see some smarts here !
Thank God I’m Not A Country Boy
mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
The Art of the Deal, right, Erica?
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Exactly. But if he really needs offense that bad, he should consider it
57′ Yank June 9th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
When was the last time we had anyone hitting as high as Cano at this stage of the season ?
Was it Paul O’Neill ? Don’t google, wanna see some smarts here !
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Probably Jeter in 2006(?) when he was in the batting race
Throw in another bat and see what he says.
“And Pedroia makes the last out to drop his average to .248.”
Don’t taught Pedroia… you know what happens after that…
Laser show!
Mattingly/Winfield?
Clay Buchholz lost his 4th game tonight… rejoice?
Or lament the fact that he didn’t give up enough runs?
Don’t know myself, just asking.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Mattingly/Winfield?
google it then wise guy
“Is there any other type of shutout?”
Uh yeah. is this another one of your trick questions?
When was the last time we had anyone hitting as high as Cano at this stage of the season ?
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My guess would be Donny the year he was battling Winfield for the batting title, but I remember Jeter with an unusual high average at some point and what about Cano a few years ago when he hit .340something?
buccholz hasnt proven a thing
Good Joba or Bad Joba?
We shall see.
Uh yeah. is this another one of your trick questions?
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uh no.
Jeter and Cano were both in the .340s in 2006.
Jeter was 2nd behind Mauer and Cano was 3rd
Oh Russo!
RUSSOOO
Web gem
Wow, what a catch!!
wow russo!
wow russo!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
DANIEL SAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great catch by Russo!
thats why we have the great russoooooooh!!!!!
Awesome fist-pumping Joba
I guess he’s not quite as useless as some may think.
Thames probably ain’t making that play
If masterson only went 8 innnings and the Indians shut oiut the Sox, That would not be a complete game shut-out.
Joba’s in fisrt at bat rocket to left Russo awesome play, 2 outs to Mo, hold your breath.
“Can you imagine the heartache of being an Orioles fan?”
Are there still any Orioles fans?
Russo player around 7 games in the outfield in the minors.
What a phenomenal play in LF. That was an absolute rocket. If Russo misses that ball there’s a chance that with Jones speed it’s a triple.
Chainsaw June 9th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I guess he’s not quite as useless as some may think.
Thames probably ain’t making that play
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Thames would probably bobble the ball and knock himself in the head unconscious
Gunga…..gungagungalungaa…
Russo saved a run
RSM June 9th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
“Can you imagine the heartache of being an Orioles fan?”
Are there still any Orioles fans?
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I am sure there are somewhere.
Joba is never consistent
Mo might be looking for 4 or 5 outs Jobs looks shaky, 2 rockets
Mo might be looking for 4 or 5 outs Jobs looks shaky, 2 rockets
Looks like bad Joba
Then it would not be a shutout for Masterson.
It’s like saying if he went 5, w/o a run and they won he gets a shutout.
I dont understand. He comes in to the game, and immediately two rocket shots.
Once again Joba’s command is terrible because his mechanics are horrible.
He just can’t repeat his delivery anymore.
Bad Joba tonight. Two ropes in two batters.
That’s why his starting days are over.
No consistency whatsoever.
Come on awesome fist-pumping Joba!!!!!
Joba stinks !
He needs to go down to the minors. He can’t pitch in the rotation or the bullpen.
U never see the same Joba twice
Buckle down Joba!!!Come on!!!!!!
that little slider is his out pitch
Jeremy go back to your basement
why is joba jumping?
He hasn’t had his fastball so far so he’s going to need to get outs with his breaking stuff.
probably knocking something out of his cleats.
SJ will probably want Joba traded after tonight too.
That was a big catch by russo
“U never see the same Joba twice”
That’s what happens when the pitcher doesn’t throw the ball the same way twice.
Good Joba v. Bad Joba is a batter to batter thing.
It’s amazing how inconsistent he is.
Complete game shut-out as opposed to 5 shut-out innings.
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
google it then wise guy
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I just asked a query !
I’m officially off the Joba Chamberlain bandwagon, I’ve never seen a pitcher than can throw 96 with life one day and barely touch 94 with no movement the next game.
Yes. He bailed him out!!!!!!!!!
“He just can’t repeat his delivery anymore.”
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and that is quite a problem.
Better to take care of that now, even if it means having Joba miss a month, then to deal with this all season long.
They need to “Oliver Perez” him (i.e. send him down with a mysterious injury) to work on mechanics.
phew
joba comes through again
Hank
Shut Up !
The fact is Joba is not the same guy he was back in 2008 before the Texas injury. You can continue to be a blind homer on the Joba bandwagon or you can face facts.
Joba is one shaky relief pitcher
Amazing that people cried when they took him out of the rotation.
That was a very fortunate inning. Russo bailed the yankees out there by making that great play.
Jim Palmer commented on the O’s feed that Chamberlain is way too far open at delivery, that probably has a lot to do with his inconsistency.
His inconsistency and bad mechanics were never going to be fixed just be moving to the bullpen, unfortunately.
Complete game shut-out as opposed to 5 shut-out innings.
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right. but he did not throw a shutout, just 5 shutout innings.
Wrong moron mikey. You aren’t even a good stalker.
Failing at Internet stalking is not good.
Just keep him where he is. In the pen and you deal with who he is at this point in his career.
Question Jeremy. Who pitches the 8th after u send Joba down? And sending a guy down for 3 bad outings? Not going to happen bud
“Better to take care of that now, even if it means having Joba miss a month, then to deal with this all season long.”
That’s not something that’s going to get fixed in one month. It would most likely take the rest of this season. And even then it would take intense work to even have his mechanics ironed out by the start of next season.
I just said that he needs to go down to the minors. He should have been there last year.
He doesn’t have the same velocity anymore and his mechanics are all over the place.
I was never on the joba bandwagon… I hate when players get way too many accolades
to early in their career…
Almost MO TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MG-
Joba’s front shoulder flies open early very frequently. It’s one of the most common problems he has.
No one talks like he knows something like our SJ. Good thing the team does the opposite of what he says. Otherwise Cano and Hugges would be traded
This is why many fans don’t like Eiland as a pitching coach; they blame him for not being able to fix Joba’s mechanics. I like Eiland a lot, so I’m going to assume that he’s telling Joba what needs to be done and Joba is just not able to execute in terms of repeating his mechanics.
Hank
Jobs isn’t better than anyone in the bullpen. He might be slightly better than Gaudin but that isn’t a good thing.
“I joked with Girardi one day” M. K.
So then why are Joba’s problems not fixed. If everyone knows what it is, how is it not fixed yet?
Big mistake pinch hitting for Atkins, he batted 1.000 and had a OPS of 2.000 against Joba, just to get two lefties in.
Even though Clay only gave up 3 runs he was charged with the loss, ouch!
“Who pitches the 8th after u send Joba down? And sending a guy down for 3 bad outings?”
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It almost doesn’t matter. The Yanks pen will suffer for sure. But the idea is that if Joba can fix his mechanics over the course of a few weeks, then you have a shutdown 8th inning guy for the stretch run.
Otherwise, you may continue to see Joba blow leads and get hit hard due to the tremendous inconsistency.
The Yankees will likely target at least one serviceable bullpen arm by the deadline as well.
Joba is one shaky bridge to Mo.
Wait… I just checked the box score and it said Joba only gave up 1 hit, and even got a K?
What went wrong that inning? He didn’t give up any runs, walk anyone, and only gave up a double…
Take a look at the radar gun. Jobas velocity is not an issue. Leave him alone. He’s fine.
Betsy, what do you like about Eiland?
# mick June 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Complete game shut-out as opposed to 5 shut-out innings.
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right. but he did not throw a shutout, just 5 shutout innings.
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Kinda like Andy Hawkins no-hitter that wasn’t ?
CB, is there a source for video of Joba in 2007, I have the feeling he looks completely different with his delivery.
“Joba’s front shoulder flies open early very frequently. It’s one of the most common problems he has.”
Yup, he just doesn’t consistently drive that left shoulder towards the target and gets very little use of his legs….its literally a batter to batter, pitch to pitch thing with him……good, bad, good, bad.
I love Michael Kay. He is the embodiment of what baseball is. Pedroia loves squid.
Jeremy says:
June 9, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Hank
Jobs isn’t better than anyone in the bullpen. He might be slightly better than Gaudin but that isn’t a good thing.
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I don’t like joba… But who besides him should be the eighth inning guy?? Okay remove joba replace with????
“That’s not something that’s going to get fixed in one month. It would most likely take the rest of this season.”
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interesting.
I often hear pitchers make mechanical adjustments throughout the season. I am guessing you feel this is too much of an adjustment and/or Joba isn’t the kind of guy to be able to make it easily.
Jeremy, you are embarrassing yourself now saying he’s not better than gaudin. Time for a timeout.
“Take a look at the radar gun. Jobas velocity is not an issue.”
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yeah, he’s like a golfer who can still hit it 300 yards.
it’s just that he’s hitting it 300 yards into the woods.
# MG June 9th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
CB, is there a source for video of Joba in 2007, I have the feeling he looks completely different with his delivery.
I got you
http://web.yesnetwork.com/medi.....&m=08
just go through the months.
I just got home to see that Cano got another 3 hits. That guy is simply other worldly right now.
I’m sure a bunch of posters who barely know anything know more than the Yankees. Luke they would keep him as their 8 inn guy if he couldn’t do it. Like they wouldn’t see a mechanical flaw. Give us a break.
Mix and match in the 8th inning you send Joba down.
Recall Logan and you have 2 lefties available.
You can use a Robertson/Logan platoon or a Mitre/Logan platoon. Marte/Park
Whatever combo you want, we have enough guys who can get outs.
here is a video of Chamberlain pitching for SWB in 2007, he looks about 20 pounds lighter, doesn’t he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6Wz25V3cg
I agree with sprinters. Joba was treated as a phenom after his debut. In all reality he hasn’t done much since. His cut out life size picture thing in Dunkin Donuts drives me insane. I don’t think it’s Joba’s fault, but he’s overrated.
Kelly NY
Did you read the comment ? I said he is slightly better than Gaudin. But that doesn’t mean he is good because Gaudin stinks. Joba is not that much better than the rest of the pitchers in the pen.
When Arod covers that pitch he’s as good as anybody in baseball, great wrists right there.
Really nothing funnier than reading people here try to go over Jobas mechanics.
People are going to start walking Cano more often.
I tend to think a pitching or a hitting coach gets too much credit or blame when the players perform well or badly. On one of the ESPN podcasts (Ryan Ruocco, I think), he mentioned that Eiland had changed the grip on CC’s slider last year, after which CC went on the run. The guy specifically asked Phil how he got through 2007/2008 without completely losing his confidence (or something like that) and Phil said that Eiland got him through that. I have no proof because you don’t see articles being written about him or PC’s in general, but I think he just works well with the pitchers. Certainly he was getting blame last year for the poor start, yet he’s not getting the same credit for the performances thus far.
y’all must be nuts. Joba is the EIG . We are good enough to have him work it out on the mound.
Unless somebody better comes along.
that was a foul double…nice!
Anyone advocating them sending their 8 inn guy to Scranton needs mental help. Trolls.
“Really nothing funnier than reading people here try to go over Jobas mechanics.”
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yeah, because Jim Palmer doesn’t know anything about pitching either.
Really nothing more pathetic than my posts.
Why am I arguing with someone lacking basic intelligence like Jeremy? He’s probably a Sox troll.
Betsy, for all the reporters you don’t read, you are still the most well read poster here.
Yeah because Boone Logan was real impressive when he was here.
Try again.
Banjo says:
June 9, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Mix and match in the 8th inning you send Joba down.
Recall Logan and you have 2 lefties available.
You can use a Robertson/Logan platoon or a Mitre/Logan platoon. Marte/Park
Whatever combo you want, we have enough guys who can get outs.
Banjo says:
June 9, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Mix and match in the 8th inning you send Joba down.
Recall Logan and you have 2 lefties available.
You can use a Robertson/Logan platoon or a Mitre/Logan platoon. Marte/Park
Whatever combo you want, we have enough guys who can get outs.
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again I don’t like joba…might be most overated player in baseball… BUT every pitcher u mentioned here is much worse than him!!!
Mo time.
Palmer>>>>>>>>>chainsaw n the others
posters here don’t know anything.
Joe give Mo the Save sign.
“yeah, because Jim Palmer doesn’t know anything about pitching either.”
Palmer knows pitching but I find him very annoying. I have really liked listening to Eddie Murray though.
Some people want to ignore that Joba has not been the same since 2008.
Joba didn’t give up any runs!!!
Who cares if he gave up hard hit outs? Every ball Chan Ho gives up is hard hit!!
I look at results, not how the results are achieved. Joba didn’t walk anyone, gave up a double, but got out of it unscathed.
If you are looking for the perfect 8th inning man, you are out of look. Put Robertson in the 8th inning enough and he will have as many bad outings as Chamberlain. Heck, Robertson already has 2 blown saves/losses on his record!
YankeesWFAN Relax. If every reliever has to go 1-2-3, you’ll always be disappointed #spoiledbyMo RT @NeilKeefe Remember when Joba was automatic?
13 minutes ago via web
apologies if this has been posted before-
Rosenthal – Cliff Lee will be a Yankee… (cool)
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ork-Yankee
Just what we need. Mixing n matching 8 inn with Logan and marte and gaudin.
“Palmer>>>>>>>>>chainsaw n the others”
Since when does that logic make any sense. So because CB does not have a job in MLB – hypothetically – he doesnt know as much as Dave Trembley?
I could have managed the Cavaliers better than Mike Brown. I could have general managed the Cavaliers better than Danny Ferry. I would have known that Antawn Jamison was a bum.
I do a lot of googling, Mick……….I have my routine in the morning. Check this blog, check NYYFans, check the newspaper websites. I don’t read a lot of the editorials, just mostly game recaps
It’s so obscene to think about the amount of money Joba has cost himself. Joba once had the earnings potential of an elite ace ($100M+), but at this rate he will be fortunate to be an average reliever by the time he reaches free agency. Unfulfilled potential…so disappointing.
Do the yanks need cliff lee??
Kelly NY
I’m a hardcore Yankee fan who has been on this site for 2 years. So don’t call me a troll and a idiot for not going along the Joba bandwagon.
Betsy, you do all of this at work?
Any job openings?
I mean cliff lee Yankee.. Who leaves rotation?
“Do the yanks need cliff lee??”
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Of course not.
But they’re always trying to improve and they have to pick their spots to do it. I’m guessing they feel Cliff Lee would be one of those spots.
Mo to the rescue, once again for the 500th some odd time!!!
Ballgame!
Not or have ever been on joba bandwagon… Really overrated…he blew that game in Cleveland bugs my butt
game’s just ended and the recap thread’s up
Joba gives up a double and morons want him in AAA. Funny.
No team ever has enough pitching.
No, before work – I eat breakfast in front of the computer
Chainsaw says:
June 9, 2010 at 10:25 pm
“Do the yanks need cliff lee??”
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Of course not.
But they’re always trying to improve and they have to pick their spots to do it. I’m guessing they feel Cliff Lee would be one of those spots.
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yeah I get that but who leaves the rotation??
new thread
Splinter,
probably Vazquez?
offer Javy arbitration and hope he declines? or maybe trade him if he does (like Rafael Soriano situation this past offseason).
long way away. which makes all this talk about Cliff Lee a bit annoying.
Nice easy inning for Mo.
Yankees now 10-1 vs. The O’s.
Red Sox 4-5 vs. the O’s.
For the Red Sox trolls here.
Cliff lee becomes a yankee who leaves the rotation.. Yanks don’t need him barring injury
CR is a typical loon fan. Thinks he could actually coach on Nba and do better than Phil J.
NEW THREAD
Oh I thouht you guys meant get him in season
# Sprinters don’t slide June 9th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Do the yanks need cliff lee??
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sure they can use a C Lee…who can’t & whatever it takes get it done
Realistically, what can we expect from an 8th inning guy? If he was lights out and untouchable, he would be traded away for someone more valuable to us and he would become a closer elsewhere. I don’t think Joba is worth all the hype, but as an eighth inning guy, it’s better thank mixing and matching. My biggest problem is that he’s out of shape and gross. Just doesn’t seem to me like he has too much desire. Beyond the fist pump of course.
What I love about Mo is is his efficiency, command, and location of his pitches, He attacks the strike zone, doesn’t throw a lot of balls and shows no fear. C’mon AJ!
Most of you on here don’t know baseball ! Think about it, imbeciles
May 8th the Dodgers were 6 games back of the Padres. Since then they have gone 22-7 and have their leagues best win streak, and took over 1st place in their division.
If they beat the Cardinals tonight it will be their 5 sweep this year. Torre has some kind of team. It’s early things change all the time, but they look right now.
They got Wainwright to throw 27 pitches in the first, give up 2 runs, and come back in the 2nd with another 19 pitch inning. Torre has imitated an AL line up.
Already in the 3rd ads 2 more runs allowed , Dogers 4-0 1 out so for.
The reason I mention the Dodgers is because the Yankees play them this month, and they are awesome at home!
The post at 10:50 pm is a fake not me!