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The one who probably won’t get away

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 09, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees first-round pick Cito Culver was supposed to be on a conference call with the media at 4 p.m. on Tuesday. It was pushed back to 4:30 because Culver was getting a tuxedo for the senior ball at his high school. He and a friend picked out a pinstriped version, and there was disappointment in his voice when he told the New York writers that the pinstripes are black, not blue.

“I’ve been working for this all my life,” Culver said. “And to go 32 overall to my favorite team, and the team I’ve been growing up watching, and the team my family has followed for years now, it was an awesome feeling. It was unreal.”

Two years ago, the Yankees drafted a high school kid who didn’t sign. That doesn’t seem likely in this case. Culver has advisors working for him, and so he naturally didn’t rule out the idea of sticking to his commitment to the University of Maryland, but there was a sense that he simply couldn’t help himself.

“I think that I just can’t wait to be a Yankee,” he said.

WHY HE PLAYS BASEBALL: “My whole family grew up playing baseball. If you didn’t play baseball in my family you were pretty much exiled from the family. It’s something that ran in the family, and when you have a lot of cousins like I do – I have a ton of cousins – they’re all playing baseball and you’re going to play with them. It’s just something that grew on me.”

WHAT KIND OF PLAYER HE IS: “Switch hitter. Love to hit. Love to hit from both sides. I’m a pretty good runner. My best asset I think is my arm strength. I think I have good feet in the infield, know how to get myself in good position to take a ground ball and make an accurate throw.”

WHAT POSITION HE EXPECTS TO PLAY: “I see myself as a shortstop. That’s the position I played growing up, throughout my whole life. Once a shortstop always a shortstop, but I’m open to do whatever the team needs to do to get the win.”

WHAT HE EXPECTED ON MONDAY: “I wasn’t really sure to be honest. I knew a couple of teams were interested in me. Did I know I’d go 32 overall? No I didn’t. When I was called, I was very grateful and just honored to be able to begin and finish off my career being a Yankee.”

WHY DEREK JETER IS HIS FAVORITE PLAYER: “I just love the way he plays the game. He goes hard every time. The best part about his game to me is when he hits a ground ball, he runs it out hard every time. You can expect that from him, just giving his best effort every time. That’s something I want to resemble when I get older, playing as hard as he did. He’s one of the best that’s ever played the game.”

 
 

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145 Responses to “The one who probably won’t get away”

  1. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos June 9th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Cito Culver has certainly started out on the right foot! :)

  2. Erin June 9th, 2010 at 9:11 am

    I like Culver already :)

  3. bardos June 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am

    http://cnn.com/video/?/video/s.....rigins.cnn

  4. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Seems like a good guy, I hope he pans out.

  5. Preisendanz June 9th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Haha I love how his conference was moved back for his senior prom. Don’t hear that much.

  6. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    I bet he didn’t have much of a problem finding a prom date this week

  7. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    What a terrific kid Culver appears to be; it’s going to be that much easier to root for him. Picking Jeter as a role model in terms of how to act on the field is a good thing…..and you could sense his excitement at being a Yankee (even though he hasn’t officially signed yet).

    GB, everyone is fine, thanks. That’s sad you have to give up the dog, but even he senses those kids are something special. What kind of dog is he? Might you get another one?

  8. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 June 9th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    I like this guys attitude toward the Yankees. He sounds like he really was thrilled to be drafted by the Yankees.

  9. Sal June 9th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Yankees need to get the big fish in the international draft, whoever they may be. I hope for young stud pitchers from the Dominican or wherever. . We should put the hammer down on the competition with recruiting dollars and get these players !

  10. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    So the Mariners would want Austine Romine/Jesus Montero plus Eduardo Nunez for Cliff Lee? Have they been paying attention to how Javier Vazquez has been pitching?

  11. Steve P June 9th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Another lesson learned – don’t rip a kid, especially one you don’t know.

    Can’t wait to follow his progress through the minor leagues and hopefully to the show. Phil Hughes was the first prospect I ever tracked and I can’t wait to do the same with Culver. IPK, Joba, Jesus, Romine, Slade, Murphy, all kids I’m excited about.

    Question now though is when will he sign? I know there’s word that Harper won’t sign until August 16th because the commissioner’s office doesn’t want to overinflate signing bonuses. But for a 32nd pick at the end of the round? Maybe he’ll sign quickly and start in short season ball.

  12. NYY626 June 9th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 9:15 am
    I bet he didn’t have much of a problem finding a prom date this week
    ________________________________________________________________
    Hey if the kid was legal I would have went with him…. ;)

  13. L June 9th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Don’t know much about him, but I’m really rooting for this kid!!! What a fun story, just genuine excitement!

  14. m June 9th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Love his attitude! Jeter’s inspired a lot of young players thru the years. Once a SS, always a SS. LOL.

    Couple of quick basketball things. Magic Johnson is not a good analyst because he’s a real homer for one. But he compared Fisher to Jeter. I was shocked. But, it’s true over the past 13 years Fish has had some Jeter-like moments.

    Another thing is a postgame analysis using Glengary Glen Ross to describe Fisher’s performance last night. ABC-Always Be Closing. The Celtics kept coming back in the final minutes. But Fisher was there with a performance Alec Baldwin would approve of. Can’t post Baldwin’s famous scene right now, but Chad you need to casually show it to Phil. Teach him the importance of learning his ABC’s. Jerkface posted an astounding stat. Over 70% of is runs scored came with 2 outs.

  15. Erin June 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    NYY626 June 9th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Hey if the kid was legal I would have went with him?.

    ****************************
    I would too! lol

  16. Trevor June 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Cito Culver & Slade Heathcott….nice names.

  17. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    NYY626 June 9th, 2010 at 9:27 am
    Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 9:15 am
    I bet he didn’t have much of a problem finding a prom date this week
    ________________________________________________________________
    Hey if the kid was legal I would have went with him?.

    **************

    Well…. technically just going to the prom with him would not be illegal. :-)

    Did you see Glee??????????!?!?!?!

  18. Billy D June 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    “So the Mariners would want Austine Romine/Jesus Montero plus Eduardo Nunez for Cliff Lee? Have they been paying attention to how Javier Vazquez has been pitching?”

    If they don’t get that kind of package, they may as well take the draft picks.

  19. xyz June 9th, 2010 at 9:32 am

    What’s not to like about a kid that really seems to “get it”. I can’t imagine any adversity he’ll encounter in pro ball that could even come close to rivaling what he’s already experienced in life.

    -*-*-*-

    re: Cliff Lee

    Two things that really stick out from his #s so far this season (in almost 62 innings):

    1 HR allowed

    4 BBs

    Wow.

    The only catch w/him is where would he fit? The only scenarios that seem to make any sense would be if the Yanks put Phil back in the pen for the rest of the season or if they traded Javy. No thanks. YMH should stay right where he is, and what kind of value can they really get for Javy?

    Also, considering the price they’d have to pay in prospects, it’s just not worth it. If he’s traded to another team and signs a long-term deal w/them, so be it. Otherwise, he’s a free agent after this season so just sit tight and sign him then.

  20. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    I have no idea why I decided to read Ian O’Connor’s article on Pelfrey the ace, but he mentioned that Pelfrey outpitched Phil last night – like that makes any difference? The thrust of his argument was that he wasn’t Strasburg last night, but he pitched with grit and was on par with Matt Cain and better than Phil. Unless he’s trying to say that Pelfrey is better than Phil (fine, if that’s his opinion), then he must be taking a dig at the Yankees (Mets’ young ace is better than the Yankees’ young gun)

  21. m June 9th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    He needs to get rid of the cito. Giradi would call him Citi. How about Culver City? :)

  22. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Billy D,

    Given how Javier Vazquez has pitched, I bet the Yankees would rather forfeit 2 draft picks than trade Romine/Montero plus Nunez. The Yanks just aren’t that desperate for a starter. We need bullpen help and a versatile OF like David DeJesus. I hope we get Putz and DeJesus.

  23. Haiku-man June 9th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    I actually heard a St Louis sports radio host (over the net) say how good the Randy Winn signing has been for the Cardinals.

    Le’s recap, game 1 Cards vs Dodgers: Dogers win 12-4

    Gm 2: Dodgers win 1-0 ( even with ace Carpenter on the mound) Winn batted 2nd in line up.
    What are they thinking?

  24. NYYROC June 9th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    They might be able to trade Javy to Dodgers or Mets. They’d have to make room for Lee somehow and there’s no way they put Hughes, who is one of the best pitchers in the league in the pen, IMO.

  25. Billy D June 9th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    “The only catch w/him is where would he fit?”

    At or near the top of the rotation. He’s arguably been the best pitcher in the AL. That said, with Vazquez going OK, there is really no need to trade the high end prospect(s) it would take to add him this year, when they can get him in FA over the offseason.

  26. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    I wouldn’t touch Lee with a ten foot pole for that asking price – we don’t need him and he’s going to be a FA.

  27. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Bret, I agree with you, those are two guys i’d love to have on the team.

    The Yanks don’t pay twice for players. Lee is guaranteed to be a free agent at the end of the year and if the yanks want him they’ll get him then. They aren’t going to give up Romine or Montero for Lee. Cliff is awesome but our rotation is pitching really really well right now, he’d only be a small improvement on whoever he replaces in the rotation.

  28. m June 9th, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Someone mentioned the years & $$ it would take. It’s something that is easily forgotten when looking at Lee’s dazzling stats.

  29. Billy D June 9th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Given how Javier Vazquez has pitched, I bet the Yankees would rather forfeit 2 draft picks than trade Romine/Montero plus Nunez”

    Not 100% sold on Vazquez having turned it all the way around (I’ll envoke the Buchholtz Rule and say “let’s see him beat a good offense), but I generally agree.

    BTW, signing Lee as an FA cost the Yankees only 1 draft pick. Seattle’s 2nd comp pick would be in the sandwich round.

  30. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    GB, everyone is fine, thanks. That’s sad you have to give up the dog, but even he senses those kids are something special. What kind of dog is he? Might you get another one?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Betsy, “Killer” is a German Shepard, just now 2 years old, and I got him when he was 6 weeks old. He’s really pretty docile except when people get around the kids. He loves Morgan and the kids, but, does not like the father. He doesn’t growl….just bares his teeth….never tried to bite anyone. The kids lay all over him and he never moves. He and the kids will be better off and happier together. Hate giving him up, but, it makes them happy. Not sure about getting another dog, though.

  31. NYY626 June 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Erica –

    I saw Glee. It was amazing. I loved the Journey and Queen Medley’s and I almost cried during To Sir With Love.

  32. NYYROC June 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    I don’t think the NYY would trade for Lee without knowing he’ll sign an extension. Doc did that last year for Philly. However, the NYY aren’t in the habit of granting extensions mid-season. Maybe they do this time? Cashman seems to really pursue top flight pitchers. Even though SP is the team’s strength, it wouldn’t surprise me if he attempted to get Lee.

  33. upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    ah GB that is a tough decision…sounds like he and the twins really miss each other.

  34. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    GB, aww I think German Shephards are just beautiful; that’s odd that he doesn’t take to the father, but adorable that he just loves the kids. Animals are very sensitive to the old, the injured and the young – I’m not surprised “Killer” loves the twins.

  35. m June 9th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Haha. Looking at the previews. Laps v the Big Jamaican. Red Sox up to 10 games over .500. I liked them better when they were playing bad.

  36. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    NYY626 June 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am
    Erica ?

    I saw Glee. It was amazing. I loved the Journey and Queen Medley?s and I almost cried during To Sir With Love.
    *************

    I totally did cry.

    They actually made me like Journey… lol

  37. Laura - What happened happened! June 9th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    I wouldn’t trade for Lee right now. We can get him as an FA.

  38. upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    I switched back and forth between our game and the Nats game last night. WOW, Strasburg was really something. I am glad he lived up to the hype. I can’t imagine the pressure on that young man.

  39. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    NYYROC, no way – Cash is not going to give up top prospects when he can try and get Lee next year.

  40. Billy D June 9th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    “I don’t think the NYY would trade for Lee without knowing he’ll sign an extension”

    I agree. In fact, I doubt any team would trade for Lee without knowing he’ll sign an extension. I can’t see the M’s moving him without getting at least one top prospect back and I don’t think any team parts with a top prospect without getting a commitment beyond this season.

  41. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am
    ah GB that is a tough decision…sounds like he and the twins really miss each other.

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    Morgan and the kids were crying when they were leaving and then “Killer” chased the car and she had to turn around to bring him back. I put him in the house so she could leave and he’s watching out of the window. It was tough to watch. I never realized that a male dog would be that protective of the kids to that extent, but, also never realized that babies that age would be so attached to an animal and they’ve been like that for 4 months or more.

  42. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Patrick,

    DeJesus and Putz would be nice. I remember when the Yankees landed Vazquez, they gained leverage over the Braves when the Braves failed to move Derek Lowe. The Royals surely prefer to move Guillen, Bannister, Meche over DeJesus but it’s just not realistic. They’re in a bad financial situation and Greinke’s salary doubles next season. DeJesus has a 6 million dollar option that the Royals would have to pass on given their economics. Basically, DeJesus is in his walk year.

    The White Sox are in a similar situation. They’d love to move Konerko, Jenks, Rios and their other big contracts first so that they can keep their bargain players. But in the end, teams like the Yankees can swoop in and try to swing trades for Putz. Other teams would want Quentin.

    The Yankees will have to give up real prospects in these deals but the finances of the teams will factor into the negotiations and give the Yankees leverage.

  43. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    m-

    It be me who talked about the years and $’s it would take to get Lee.

    CB thought 4/75 would be a good deal, and my take was more years and more $’s would be required. :)

  44. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 June 9th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Cliff makes 9MM, if he’s traded at the trade deadline Yankees would only have to pay 3mm!

  45. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Is it StARsburg or StRAsburg???

  46. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 9:57 am

    The Granderson trade was another case where a team preferred to dump a whole list of other contracts so that they could retain their bargain player. Their inability to cut salary gave Cashman the ability to keep the trade fair and not overpay. The Tigers wanted Cervelli in that deal. They wanted Hughes.

  47. Billy D June 9th, 2010 at 9:57 am

    “CB thought 4/75 would be a good deal, and my take was more years and more $’s would be required.”

    I’d think the $75M part may be low. That’s Burnett, Lackey, Beckett money and Lee is better than all of them.

  48. NYYROC June 9th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    I agree it would be out of character for Cashman to pay twice (players & $) for Lee. It all depends upon how much he really wants him and if he feels another team would make the deal and sign Lee to an extension, thereby preventing Cashman from getting Lee as a FA. SP should be the least of Cashman’s concern’s. The pen needs help first.

  49. upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    Erica
    its Strasburg, all tho it appears he already is a star!

  50. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    I am not for trading for Lee. Prefer to wait for is impending FA.

    Besides that we need to know what AP does before we make a move.

  51. CountryClub June 9th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    For those that care, here’s a nice recap of the Yanks first two days of the draft:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....gth-29877/

  52. pat June 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    GB

    If you would prefer to keep Killer, you might try asking Morgan to use a blanket on the kids for a few days and then leaving it at your house to see if just having their scent around helps him settle in back at home before you make any final adoption plans.

  53. m June 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    MTU-
    Someone mentioned how old Lee would be at the end of his contract. Not insignificant. That’s why I’m enjoying following Hughes. Nice to be watching somene tho’s nearer the beginning of their career as opposed to the end.

  54. NYYROC June 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Kay said it is pronounced Strawsburg. FWIW.

  55. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    m-

    The longer the contract required the greater the risk.

    That should fill up some time- watching YMH career. :)

  56. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    I can’t for the life of me believe that Lee will make Lackey money. He’s way better than John Lackey and on the ups. He’ll make well North of 17 million. That’s too much money for a team who can throw Phil Hughes in a Game 4. I know people hate to hear this but the Yankees want some cost controlled pitchers in the rotation to balance the budget. They will still try to make Joba a starter next season. With Pettitte back, there’s no room for Lee. He’s a great pitcher but we’re stocked and the value of Lee over Hughes in a playoff start is not worth near 20 million dollars.

  57. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos June 9th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    GB7 -

    That is so touching about “Killer” and the twins.

  58. hey Kelvin says June 9th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Yankees wouldnt trade Vazquez.

    Anyways remember if something does happen

    A. CC HAS OPT OUT

    B. AP MAYBE RETIRES

    C. JOBA MAYBE FULL RELIEVER NOW?

    A lot of things come to play when trading. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

  59. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Joba will go to API this off season and come back a new Man.

    He’s gonna get “ripped” just like Phil and Cano did ( at least I hope so).

  60. m June 9th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Too bad the Sox jumped the gun with Lackey. They coulda had Lee. :)

  61. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    pat, the kids have some of their blankets here at the house, along with suffed animals and toys and the blanket “Killer” and the kids slept on during their naps. He doesn’t want to eat, play, be petted or go out side to run in the yard. Not really much else to do but send him home to the twins. It’s like watching someone pining away for a lost love…..which I guess he is.

  62. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    People keep telling me that Crawford is fantasy and it’s insulting. The real fantasy is Cliff Lee in a Yankees uniform. Yankees aren’t going to lock up 3 pitchers into their mid thirties on an average of nearly 20 million per year (Sabathia, Burnett and Lee). It’s just not wise baseball economics and it’s not happening. fantasy. Heck my Joakim Soria wet dream (easy CR9) has a better chance of happening.

  63. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    m-

    But Lackey was just too “cute” to pass up on on. C’mon. :)

  64. NYYROC June 9th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    m, maybe Theo, the “Boy Genius” turned into the “MOP” (Master of Panic) and overpaid in reaction to the NYY winning #27.

  65. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    A. CC HAS OPT OUT

    B. AP MAYBE RETIRES

    C. JOBA MAYBE FULL RELIEVER NOW?
    ********************

    Not happening.

    Not happening.

    Not happening.

  66. ac1 June 9th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Not 100% sold on Vazquez having turned it all the way around (I’ll envoke the Buchholtz Rule and say “let’s see him beat a good offense), but I generally agree
    ___

    Didnt he beat the Twins? And the Jays are a pretty good offense no?

  67. Shame Spencer June 9th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    I can’t find the quotes but I’m fairly certain Lee already stated when he was with the Phillies that he was going to test the market no matter what his situation was at the time. The guy knows how much he can make by going into free agency and isn’t going to sign an extension with any team he is traded to (assuming he is traded, which IMO would be the right move for the Mariners who wouldn’t be able to keep him anyway).

    Translation: He’ll be in pinstripes by December.

  68. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    m-

    I’m with you on Culver. Cito has to go. I’m calling him Chris and it’s too bad if he doesn’t like it.

  69. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Translation: He’ll be in a Mets uniform by December.

  70. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 June 9th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Well the video is on youtube “child chugs beer at Phillies game.” kid looks between 3-4 yrs old!!

  71. NYYROC June 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Shame, I think you are correct on Lee’s desire to test the market. IIRC that is one reason the Phils traded him. Who knows though, maybe he changes his mind.

  72. ac1 June 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    If Vazquez gets it all together, who’s to say Cash doesnt offer him arbitration (which he would have to in order to get the draft picks). He would cost less than Lee.

  73. hey Kelvin says June 9th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Brett you can’t so no to CC opting out.

    Its there for a reason. Yankees wont avoid signing someone because of CC. Yankees will make moves as if he does opt they can’t rely on someone’s word this is a business.

    Not saying Lee will be a Yankee but he is most realistic fa for this upcoming season whether we like it or not.

  74. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Cano didn’t go to API…………

  75. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    hey Kelvin says June 9th, 2010 at 10:16 am
    Brett you can’t so no to CC opting out.
    ***********

    Yes you can.

    He signed an above market contract in a bad economy.

    The economy is still bad.

  76. Shame Spencer June 9th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Hitman – I think they might have too much money tangled up in Beltran/Bay/Oliver. To me, if the Mets get Lee than I have no idea what the hell they were doing this offseason…or even the one before that.

    Lee is definitely going to test the market and I envision a bidding war between the Yanks and Sox as per usual. Obviously, we’re all speculating and I really have no idea where he ends up, but the fact that he’ll be a free agent (IMO) is as good as guaranteed.

  77. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Story on the kid drinking beer at the Phillies game

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....beerbottle

  78. ac1 June 9th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    i think cc had that clause in case he didnt take to new york, which it seems that he has.

  79. vinny-b (Brett Gardner will never see the bench again) June 9th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    well not able to talk for others, however I like the Culver selection.

    it is only natural, players in the temperate climates receive the attention, and players in Rochester and other frigid climates receive little.

    he may be a diamond in the ruff, in part cuz he doesn’t play in California etc

  80. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Betsy-

    “Cano didn’t go to API”

    I knew that. I was just trying to say that like Phil and Cano Joba needs to get “ripped”. I really don’t care where or how he does it just that he does. :)

  81. G-C June 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Bret, agree with you completely. Barring some completely unforeseen events I don’t think there’s a chance that the Yankees sign Lee.

    I can’t see any reason how in this economy, with a new, cost-controlled perspective coming from Hal, that the Yankees could commit 15 million + long term to a third pitcher. It doesn’t make any sense and they have no need for it.

    Hughes, Burnett, and Sabathia is a plenty good front three. One of them needs to be cost controlled.

  82. ac1 June 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    The Sox aren’t going to get into the bidding war. Where would they put Lee in their rotation?

    Beckett (0-4 Y)
    Lester (controlled)
    lackey (1 of 5 Y)
    Dice K (3 of 6 Y)
    Buchholz (controlled)

  83. vinny-b (Brett Gardner will never see the bench again) June 9th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    “Cito Culver & Slade Heathcott….nice names”
    ————————————————-

    definitely

    they are not Tyler Clippard or vinny-b, but they will do

  84. ac1 June 9th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Yankees have pitchers in AAA that can be the 5th starter (or they can try with Joba again if they feel lucky). Either way, Lee may not be a necessity. And with Gardner for cheap, same goes for crawford.

  85. rconn23 June 9th, 2010 at 10:24 am

    The Red Sox aren’t going to be in on Lee, not with as much money and years as they already have tied up in their rotation.

  86. G-C June 9th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    In all honesty I can’t see next year’s roster diverging much from the one we have right now. I would be earnestly surprised if the starting rotation next year didn’t look very much like this:

    Sabathia
    Hughes
    Pettitte
    Burnett
    Chamberlain

    On the offensive side of the ball Gardner is continuing to prove that he is nearly every bit the player that Crawford is (and about fifteen million per year less expensive). Crawford is consistently among the most overrated players in baseball. The only thing he does particularly well is defend in left field. Otherwise he hits for mediocre power, has never had Gardner’s plate discipline, and is a pretty pedestrian hitter for average.

  87. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    The Red Sox biggest needs are Catching, LF, and SS IMO.

  88. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Is the beer drinking kid friends with the chain smoking one?

  89. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos June 9th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Pettitte’s your wild card – because I truly believe he makes his decisions based on his life situation (kids/wife) as opposed to acquiring HOF numbers (which he acknowledges may not matter since he admitted he used HGH).

    No way to know before November what’s going to happen with Pettitte. But if the Yankees are really interested in Lee, they will probably ask Pettitte to reach his yearly decision relatively quickly. ;)

  90. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 10:28 am
    Is the beer drinking kid friends with the chain smoking one?
    ************

    Yes.

    I heard the beer drinking toddler is also on match.com and lists his hobbies as “Playing with matches and running with scissors”

  91. Erin June 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    Ledger_Yankees Yankees could see Jake Arrieta on Thursday night. It would be his big league debut.

  92. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    What about eating paste and sticking forks in sockets?

  93. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    I’d rather spend $$ on a proven all-star like Crawford and trade Brett Gardner in the offseason for a lights out reliever.

    I’d rather have Crawford + lights-out reliever over Gardner plus $$, especially since that money is available for spending.

    With Nick Johnson and Vazquez coming off the books, there’s money to spend and Crawford is such a weapon for the Rays. Consider what kind of caliber prospects the Yankees would have to put up to acquire a top proven outfielder via trade. When one comes on the market for money alone, you grab him.

  94. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    I don’t trust Joba at all and I don’t love that rotation. Andy is not going to keep this up and you can’t assume he will. Maybe he will this year, but next year? I’m not willing to take that risk…That is, if he wants to come back, great, but no way am I anchoring the back end of the rotation with Joba.

  95. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Doreen-

    I agree on Pettitte and a timely decision but I don’t think it’s going to be a problem because I think he is going to return. :)

  96. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    I’m also not ready to proclaim Gardner the regular, everyday LF……..

  97. Laura - What happened happened! June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    “I?d rather have Crawford + lights-out reliever over Gardner plus $$, especially since that money is available for spending.”

    We are assuming that TB doesn’t keep Crawford. He may give them a huge hometown discount to stay there. Word is that he’s very happy with the organization and would prefer to stay. Of course, $$$ does have a way of convincing people that they would be happier somewhere else. :P

  98. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am
    What about eating paste and sticking forks in sockets?
    ***********

    That too!

    He also totally rips the heads off of Barbie dolls

  99. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    King Patrick “the bold” may be right.

    Maybe the Yankees will get neither Lee nor Crawford.

  100. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    I?m also not ready to proclaim Gardner the regular, everyday LF??..
    ************

    Are you speaking for the rest of the season or past it?

    Cause if you aren’t ready to make GGBG the LF for 2010 everyday, I am not sure what you are waiting to happen

  101. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Rounds 31-50 of the draft start at 12 Noon.

  102. Bret the Hitman June 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Betsy,

    If Gardner finishes the year on his current pace (121 runs, .314, .400 OBP, 58 SB) the Yankees might be able to get a cost-controlled starter in the fifth spot in the rotation.

    In this scenario…

    I’d rather have Crawford + cost controlled starter over Gardner plus $$, especially when that money is available for spending.

  103. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Erica, I’m talking about going forward for the future.

  104. NYY626 June 9th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:33 am
    Doreen-

    I agree on Pettitte and a timely decision but I don’t think it’s going to be a problem because I think he is going to return.
    _________________________________________________________________________
    I hope you’re right. I would love for Andy to become #1 on the all-time yankee win lists. ( i know its really not THAT important but it would be pretty amazing).

  105. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Gotta run soon.

    I have a date with “The Watchman”.

    Have a great day everyone. :)

  106. G-C June 9th, 2010 at 10:39 am

    I never understood where Crawford was such a “proven weapon.” Unless he’s playing centerfield he’s a really mediocre player. And he doesn’t seem to want to play centerfield.

    The guy has a career .335 OBP and never has shown the power people thought he would develop. He’s a high volume basestealer but not a particularly good one.

    Can someone enlighten me to why Crawford is considered an “elite” player? Because I really don’t see it. The season Gardner is having now is as good as any season Crawford has ever had…

  107. upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    I like Crawford, but GGBG has been a pleasant surprise. I also think Swish has improved a lot from last year, both offensively and defensively. He looks good in that #2 spot.

  108. pat June 9th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    If Yankees want to keep Andy in the Bronx next year it sound like they need to do a good sales job on son #2 this summer based on what Andy has said.

  109. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Bret, exactly what cost-controlled young starter do you want? They don’t grow on trees.

    I would not count on Crawford – he’ll either stay or there will be a huge bidding war for his services.

  110. Erin June 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos June 9th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    No way to know before November what?s going to happen with Pettitte. But if the Yankees are really interested in Lee, they will probably ask Pettitte to reach his yearly decision relatively quickly

    ************************
    Andy seemed to come to a decision pretty quickly this year didn’t he? (for him at least). lol
    Maybe it just seemed that way to me compared to the year before when he took forever.

  111. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos June 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    I hope Andy comes back one more year, too, but then again, there’s a lot to be said for going out on top. :)

    Off to the dentist.

  112. upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    ha ha MTU, I know where you are going!

  113. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    If GGBG hits around .300 for the season I am persuaded that the marginal improvement (if any) relative to the huge additional cost necessitates we pass on Crawford.

    It’s all in Brett’s hands and legs. :)

  114. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 10:38 am
    Erica, I?m talking about going forward for the future.

    ************

    Thats what I figured.
    2010, GGBG is my guy. After that, I am not sure

  115. MTU (aka GBURL) June 9th, 2010 at 10:44 am

    kate-

    Clever Lady you are. :)

  116. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 10:44 am

    upstate kate June 9th, 2010 at 10:40 am
    I like Crawford, but GGBG has been a pleasant surprise. I also think Swish has improved a lot from last year, both offensively and defensively. He looks good in that #2 spot.
    ***********

    Swisher is a bit streaky. But the #2 sport certainly does agree with him.

    I was a huge supporter of this last year. I am glad it worked out

  117. Shame Spencer June 9th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I guess I’ll start to believe that the Yankees are being more careful with their money when I see it in instances other than the Damon saga.

    If Lee was smart, he’d do what Halladay did and take a 3 year deal for a ridiculous yearly salary. He’d probably make more money that way. I’m not saying us getting him is a lock, but the idea that its impossible or even improbable seems like a stretch to me. I’d classify it as ‘possibly likely’ lol.

  118. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Gardner: .314BA/ .395OBP/ .423SLG/ .817OPS

    Crawford: .299BA/ .352OBP/ .469SLG/ .821OPS

  119. stuckey June 9th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    “I’d rather spend $$ on a proven all-star like Crawford and trade Brett Gardner in the offseason for a lights out reliever.”

    There is no such thing as a “lights our reliever”. They very few that exists and you can count on for consistency you aren’t getting for Brett Gardner. Relief pitchers are too unpredictable to go after some mid-tier guy coming off a good year.

    “I’d rather have Crawford + lights-out reliever over Gardner plus $$, especially since that money is available for spending.”

    I think anytime you post anything about Brett Gardner you need to qualify your remarks upfront that you’re convinced he can’t keep this up (though I don’t expect you can offer a reasonable explanation of why you’re so convinced.

    “Consider what kind of caliber prospects the Yankees would have to put up to acquire a top proven outfielder via trade.”

    “Proven” being the keyword.

    Until you face the issue head-on that Gardner is completely hanging with Crawford production wise and that you really can’t offer any reasoned logic as to why he can’t keep it up, you’re argument isn’t going to get any toe-holds.

  120. G-C June 9th, 2010 at 10:50 am

    I also don’t think Tampa will retain Crawford unless it comes at a significantly lower price than I’m expecting he’ll get.

    Friedman understands as well as anyone that what they have there is replacable. If Jennings can have a strong second half (he, like Montero, has really struggled in AAA, and his struggles have been more unexpected) I think there’s a corresponding strong chance that they bid Crawford farewell.

  121. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 10:53 am

    King Patrick “the bold” may be right.

    You’re goddamn right I’m right :0

  122. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 10:54 am

    There is no such thing as a “lights our reliever”. They very few that exists and you can count on for consistency you aren’t getting for Brett Gardner. Relief pitchers are too unpredictable to go after some mid-tier guy coming off a good year.

    Yep. The only non-closer that has been consistently great out of the pen is Scot Shields

  123. CR9 June 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Patrick

    Have you seen the last 3 episodes of Justified, including the season finale yesterday?

    Have they been good?

  124. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am

    CR9,

    I have seen them all except last night’s. They have been very good IMO. Last week’s was excellent. The week before that was good but mostly setting up what will happen in the last 2 episodes. The season finale is sitting on my DVR right now, I’ll watch it tonight :)

  125. blake June 9th, 2010 at 11:02 am

    If Gardner shows a level of play anywhere close to his current level over the full season then I don’t see how you can justify spending significantly more money on Crawford.

    In that scenerio the team could be improved more by spending their money elsewhere.

  126. 86w183 June 9th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Crawford says all the right things, but heading into his thirties this is his best chance at a really big contract AND getting off the turf which will lengthen his career. He’s definitely better than Gardner, but not $ 12 M a year better.

    Vazquez and Pettite makes about $ 24 M combined. Should Andy retire I say go get Lee for about $ 18 M and use the rest plus NJ $$ to add a major bat. Let youngsters and Mitre fight for the No. 5 slot.

  127. stuckey June 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Some random observations based on some of the talk since last night.

    - Andy Pettitte is one of my favorite players ever, so I don’t mean this as criticism when I say Pettitte is going to keep pitching so long as the Yankees are willing to give him 8-digit paydays, and he’s lining himself up for another.

    8-figure salary + further bolstering his HoF chances = he’ll be back.

    The day the Yanks can only justify bringing him back with a mid-7-figure guarantee with incentives is the day he hangs it up.

    - The year Nick Swisher is having his flying under the radar of a lot of people, including a lot of us.

    At the moment, he’s one of the 5 most productive outfielders in the game, on the offensive side. And he’s young and relatively cost-controlled.

    Like Gardner, yes, he has to keep it up all year, but he could be hitting 3rd or 4th for a LOT of baseball teams right now. Fans might have to stop thinking of him as a nice 2nd or 7th place hitter.

    He’s having an All-Star year this year and had an All-Star level type year on the road last year.

    This is a SIGNIFICANTLY productive player.

    - Have a hard time seeing the Yanks pursue Cliff Lee under any circumstance THIS year. It would take an injury to one of the big 4.

    I can’t see the Yankees asking Hughes to go to the bullpen for the rest of the year and post-season (though it would solve the innings limit thing AND likely improve the pen a TON).

    The one longhot/wildcard I’d just throw out for entertainment value mostly is for a couple of months and October, would the team ever consider asking Burnett and his two pitches to take one for the team and be the 2010 Hughes, with the guarantee he returns to the rotation in 2011?

    And how would Burnett respond?

  128. CountryClub June 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Lasnt night’s Justified was GREAT.

  129. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 11:07 am

    blake,

    Yep exactly. Since I am Mr. Optimistic I feel Gardner will continue at this pace.

    Then if Pettitte re-signs I don’t see the need for Cliff Lee. With Pettitte you have 4 spots in the rotation locked down with good to great starters. Then you have Joba hanging out ready to step into the rotation because he just had a great 2010 season (yeah I’m optimistic on him too). His stuff is back, he’s consistently throwing 97+ out of the pen with a nasty slider and good curve/change. He is going to API in the offseason too. So you could put Joba in the rotation or you could go sign Vazquez to a 1 year deal because he finished the 2010 season with a 15-7 record and a 3.5 ERA.

  130. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    The one longhot/wildcard I?d just throw out for entertainment value mostly is for a couple of months and October, would the team ever consider asking Burnett and his two pitches to take one for the team and be the 2010 Hughes, with the guarantee he returns to the rotation in 2011?

    And how would Burnett respond?
    *****************

    I don’t think there is any such thing as a 16.5 million dollar eight inning guy.

    But other than that, you raise some good points

  131. Dallas Braden June 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    This kid is totally gettin’ some on prom night

  132. Erin June 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    blake June 9th, 2010 at 11:02 am
    If Gardner shows a level of play anywhere close to his current level over the full season then I don?t see how you can justify spending significantly more money on Crawford.

    *********************
    Totally agree.

    It’s probably a little premature, but I’m already a Gardner in 2011 supporter. :)

  133. CR9 June 9th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Erica

    If you dont mind me helping out with your Teixeira situation…

    First, what about leaving him on the reserves until he puts together 2 straight good weeks (shows consistency)?

    Second, Im good friends with a couple people in the league. What about a 2 for 2 trade, perhaps?

  134. Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Erica you should trade me Tex, I’ll even give you Josh beckett!

  135. stuckey June 9th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    “I don’t think there is any such thing as a 16.5 million dollar eight inning guy.”

    Carlos Zambrano says hey!

    :-)

    No, I 98% agree. but it would be an interesting experiment…

  136. david cone's camera face June 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    “joe d” the wfan caller has got to be the worst most annoying caller ever. he is worse than jerome. my god. what an idiot.

  137. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) June 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Stuckey, I couldn’t possibly disagree with you MORE regarding Gardner; a 3 or 4 hitter? I’m sorry, that is just wrong.

  138. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    CR9-

    I have decided to see how the rest of the week plays out and start making decisions Fridayish.

    I am sure Tex’s hitting while sitting on my bench only is a coincedence and statistical fluke, but its really hurting my team. Last night, I actually got decent production out of Troy Glaus who is replacing him at 1B this week. So as of this second, its not hurting me too much.

  139. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Patrick June 9th, 2010 at 11:14 am
    Erica you should trade me Tex, I?ll even give you Josh beckett!

    ************

    LOL.. No!

  140. Erica in NY June 9th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    new thread :arrow:

  141. stuckey June 9th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    1.) Sabathia
    2.) Lee
    3.) Pettitte
    4.) Hughes

    7th: Vazquez
    8th: Burnett
    9th: Rivera

    Robertson, Marte, Chamberlain

    Dare to dream! :-)

  142. Patrick from CT June 9th, 2010 at 11:19 am

    The Yankees seem to have made a good choice with their #1 pick.

    The Yankees are not trading for Lee unless someone goes down for the year. They will go hard after him this Winter if he is a FA and it’s probably going to take 100mil to get him.

    With every game Brett Gardner makes it less likely that the Yankees go after Crawford. Crawford will be 5th or lower on the list of FA players the Yankees will try to sign for 2011; 1,2, and 3 are Jeter, Mo, and Andy.

  143. Erin June 9th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    New Post: Hughes: “You have these days and you battle”

  144. blake June 9th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Stuckey,

    Good post. Must give credit where its due, you have been saying this about Gardner since the winter and I was dead wrong regarding him. I just didn’t think he could hit and get on base at this clip….he has to come it up a while longer but he’s looking like a keeper.

  145. Blackaccord June 9th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    is anyone seeing funky characters in Chad’s posts or is it just me?


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