Swisher fifth, Granderson sixth in all-star voting
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 14, 2010 
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Here’s the latest all-star release from the league.
Nine-time All-Star Ichiro Suzuki of the Seattle Mariners remains atop a crowded group of outfielders in the fourth set of American League balloting figures for the 81st All-Star Game, to be played on Tuesday, July 13th at Angel Stadium of Anaheim. The fourth National League All-Star balloting update will be released tomorrow, Tuesday, June 15th.
Vying for his 10th consecutive trip to the Midsummer Classic in his 10th Major League season and his ninth fan-elected starting assignment, Ichiro (.341, 18 RBI, 18 SB) leads all American League outfielders with 1,231,950 votes. Tampa Bay Rays left fielder Carl Crawford (.296, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 21 SB) has improved from last week’s third place standing to second place this week with 1,123,132 votes. The third starting spot in the outfield is currently held by Texas Rangers slugger Nelson Cruz (.327, 10 HR, 34 RBI), whose 1,093,099 votes are slightly ahead of the 1,006,364 cast for teammate Josh Hamilton. New York Yankees teammates Nick Swisher (808,871) and Curtis Granderson (766,088) and Torii Hunter (765,023) of the host Angels are among those remaining in contention.
The closest race in the infield is at first base, where Justin Morneau (.350, 13 HR, 43 RBI) of the Minnesota Twins continues to be in line for his first fan-elected starting assignment and his fourth career All-Star selection overall with 1,402,496 votes. Morneau is holding off New York’s Mark Teixeira (1,221,457) and Detroit Tigers slugger Miguel Cabrera (1,009,822) in a three-way race.
Twins catcher Joe Mauer (.319, 19 2B, 28 RBI), aiming for his fourth All-Star selection and his third start, continues to be the most popular American League player with 2,617,822 votes, followed by the 2,108,659 for Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter (.293, 8 HR, 39 RBI), who is competing for his 11th trip to the Midsummer Classic. Rounding out the top five overall American League players are Rays third baseman Evan Longoria (1,958,855; .320, 11 HR, 48 RBI), Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano (1,784,896; .371, 13 HR, 47 RBI) and Rangers designated hitter Vladimir Guerrero (1,743,946; .338, 14 HR, 54 RBI).
Dave Eiland? What happened to him?
how did the media yhpe mauer all the way up to the most popular player in baseball? a .370 average never did so much work lol…
He quit.
Gonna be a lot tougher to beat the NL this year with Halladay, Jimenez, and Strasburg as starters.
Wow.
Billy D June 14th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
?My only complaint with Jorge’s behavior on the contract was that instead of just negotiating with Brian he first went out and, in the media, let it be known he was meeting with the Mets…knowing full well the kind of public pressure that would put on the Yankees in what was already an unpopular off-season?
Imagine that. A free agent doing what he can to improve his bargaining position.
The Yankees invited that on themselves, Chip. Posada becoming a free agent wasn?t breaking news. Yankees knew it was coming and chose to let it happen rather than try signing him during that last season. This time it bit them in the backside a little.
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Billy -
You’re exactly right. Cashman burned himself by shooting down the notion of negotiating with Posada (and Rivera) before they became free agents.
My point is that there are two ways the player could have handled it. Rivera just had straight ahead negotiations, while Posada tried to twist Cashman in the press…not the actions of an “all team all the time” guy in my opinion.
BTW, for anyone soccer fans with a well positioned desk, there is a link on CBS Sports to the live broadcast of the WC.
Who are we starting at catcher in 2008, 2009?
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Jose Molina obviously. he’s way better than Jorge
Good thing the Red Sox spent almost $83M on the absolutely mediocre John Lackey, now they have space in their rotation for Cliff Lee.
ac1-
Eiland is on indefinite personal leave.
The only update I saw said that the leave was NOT medically related.
Don’t think there has been anything since.
i am glad we are supporting the team, but how exactly did granderson get more votes than gardner?
ac1 – only people in NY will vote for Gardner… granderson is a “name” and will get votes from other cities just like the other guys on this list.
What a terrible match today!!
Italy is playing very poorly as well right now
Roger,
Congrats on the victory! I only saw part of the match. Were you happy with your team?
Netflix now has the 1st season of the X-Files available instantly.
Grab the popcorn, I’ll get it queued up.
*now they have NO space in their rotation…
Thanks!
I wasn’t happy with the way we were playing but we won and that’s the most important thing I guess.But this team looked very nervous playing the first game on the WC
good point.
netherlands should get to waltz out of their group with that win, good on them.
“how did the media yhpe mauer all the way up to the most popular player in baseball? a .370 average never did so much work lol…”
He’s basically Minnesota’s Jeter. Very, very likable guy who’s an excellent player. I don’t blame them for hyping him up.
Roger(The Dutch Yankees Fan) June 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Italy is playing very poorly as well right now
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Not good for Cervelli or PFOFs.
becca – as a person he certainly deserves the attention, its just insane to me that in 2 years the guy went from being the “other M” in minnesota to being as popular as jeter.
Vote for Jeter, Cano, and Swisher, they all deserve it!
Granderson was out for a long time, and I don’t think A-Rod is more deserving that Longoria and Young.
An example of how silly the all-star vote has become is when Tex jumped out to a lead at 1B, Minny fans teamed up with Rays fans and agreed to vote Morneau at 1B and Longoria at 3B for each other to keep Tex and Alex’s votes down. They’ve tried to make the same kind of deals with other teams on message boards as well.
Great Pele compilation (gave me goosebumps):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
imho, there were 4 transcendent athletes in the 20th Century:
Babe Ruth
Pele
Wayne Gretzky
Michael Jordan
pat,
Well to be fair, Longoria and Morneau should be starters in the all-star game.
LGY
Who are you rooting for btw?
Completely-
Your list is very incomplete.
Considering the Yankee fanbase trumps both the Twins and Rays combined, Yankee fans shouldn’t have let that happen…. A-Rod and Tex need to be the starters…
From the other thread….
The Mets had a 4 year offer for Jorge. How do I know it?
My nephew has the same agents as Jorge and we have talked about that negotiation many times.
Jorge had leverage, correctly used it, and got the deal he wanted with the team he wanted to play for.
That’s called, “good business” and shouldn’t be used against Jorge by the uninformed who choose to dislike him for no logical reason.
# Jim June 14th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Considering the Yankee fanbase trumps both the Twins and Rays combined, Yankee fans shouldn’t have let that happen…. A-Rod and Tex need to be the starters…
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Actually, that would be a sign that Yankee fans are very informed if they choose not to vote two players who wouldn’t really deserve the spot.
Patrick
Agreed on them being deserving but playing a game of Hollywood Squares with an all-star ballot and taking Mourneau and Longoria for the block is a little absurd.
Your missed Maradona
Maradona before a game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....playnext=1
Please expound, MTU.
Not that I’m disagreeing w/you (there have been many transcendent athletes, of course), I just kept the list short for brevity’s sake.
(It’s a slow sports day, so why not open it up to cover the whole gamut?)
Unlike like last year the Yankees are a much better home than road team.
Thus it is more important than ever for them to retain HFA throughout the post-season.
So Joe needs to find a way to win the ASG. Luckily for us he is the ASG manager and can make all the critical choices. I like that.
and now for something completely different June 14th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Netflix now has the 1st season of the X-Files available instantly.
Grab the popcorn, I?ll get it queued up.
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The truth is out there.
Maradona before a game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..playnext=1
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I’d say CGI if I didn’t know better. Just unreal, preternatural skills.
Erin June 14th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
and now for something completely different June 14th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Netflix now has the 1st season of the X-Files available instantly.
Grab the popcorn, I?ll get it queued up.
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The truth is out there.
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Netflix? Netflix my a s s.
You can watch everything for free here — DVD quality:
http://www.letmewatchthis.com/.....he-X-Files
Jorge went on Centerstage and said the Mets tried really hard to sign him
Completely-
I assume by transcendant you means someone who is basically in a class by themselves. A majority of one. Or perhaps someone who has done something so singular that no one had or might ever be able to accomplish that feat again. A singular form of excellence for instance.
Using those standards I would say there are many to go on that list of yours.
For example:
I consider Lance Armstrong to be one of those people.
By that definition, in baseball, I would say Di Maggio because of his hitting streak.
I consider a Sherpa like Tensing Norgay to be such a person.
And though not human. I consider “Secretariat” to be transcendant.
One could go on and on depending on how you define “transcendant”
But that’s some of my take.
Erin,
I got the box set for Christmas…I’m on season 6.
My personal favorite episodes are “Lazarus” and “Beyond the Sea” and “Tooms” — very creepy.
“Jorge had leverage, correctly used it, and got the deal he wanted with the team he wanted to play for.
That’s called, “good business” and shouldn’t be used against Jorge by the uninformed who choose to dislike him for no logical reason.”
Can’t understand the Posada haters. I love Jorge, He is a fiery leader who plays hard and wants to win.
As far as negotiations, good for Jorge. Mike Lowell gave the RS a discount and they want to unload him.
blake June 14th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Erin,
I got the box set for Christmas?I?m on season 6.
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Very cool.
I actually thought about getting the box set for my dad for his birthday, but decided not to (mostly because I ran out of time LOL) So now I’m thinking of getting it for him for Christmas.
“My personal favorite episodes are “Lazarus” and “Beyond the Sea” and “Tooms” — very creepy”
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yeah. But all downhill after the first season. No?
Great point re: Mike Lowell.
Mike has the same agents as Jorge. They BEGGED him to take the Phillies deal, which was a larger deal, than the Red Sox deal.
Mike turned it down because he felt the Red Sox were “fair” with him.
Mike now regrets that decision with the way the Sox have treated him the past two years.
Why the dislike with the 4 year deal for Jorge anyway? Montero’s not exactly a lock to be a major league catcher by next year, it’s a good thing Jorge’s locked up.
Wave,
Just Chip being Chip. Jorge may be too good a player for him to be interested in having on the team.
He’s more into lower end players.
Why the dislike with the 4 year deal for Jorge anyway? Montero’s not exactly a lock to be a major league catcher by next year, it’s a good thing Jorge’s locked up.
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B-but Jose Molina could have been our starter!
A Molina bro starting for the Yankees!? Doesn’t get any better than that
you need a molina to win a WS.
Yeah, 2008-2011 could have been Molina, Molina, Cervelli, Cervelli. The Posada Truthers would have been in heaven!
ID-
It takes a village to win a WS, or maybe a big city with tall skyscrapers and winning ways.
# Irreverent Discourse June 14th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
you need a molina to win a WS.
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but to get there, you need a hinske!
Wave,
Just think of the money they would have saved!
It would have been enough to bring in Ryan Church and David DeJesus.
From Pete Abe’s twitter -
Ted Lilly was begging the #Yankees to sign him before 2007 season. Took Igawa instead. Lilly is 46-31, 3.62 with Cubs
Yeah, 2008-2011 could have been Molina, Molina, Cervelli, Cervelli. The Posada Truthers would have been in heaven!
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The rest of us would have been miserable watching the Yankees finish every season finishing in third place and 5 games over .500.
“It would have been enough to bring in Ryan Church and David DeJesus.”
LOL! No more worries then…
“3.62 with Cubs”
Converting this to AL ERA = 5.33
No thanks, Teddy.
Another question, how many teams have catchers that can hit with power? Not many. How some can say Cashman signing Posada is a bad deal is beyond me.
A bad Cashman signing is Igawa, not Posada.
Swiser should be on the all star team, Granderson is a joke
A commenter on HarballTalk provides some reasoned insight on a possible Adrian Gonzalez trade:
“djs replied to comment from Joey B
That would be an utterly absurd trade forBosox. Ellsbury and Buckolz are borderline superstars in the most heated baseball town in USA. Gonz would be nice, but he is categorically not worth that price. Now, I could see Bowden and Lars Anderson as the masin part of a Gonz deal
17 – Mon Jun 14,2010 2:40 PM ET Reply ”
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......p#comments
“That would be an utterly absurd trade forBosox. Ellsbury and Buckolz are borderline superstars “in the most heated baseball town in USA. Gonz would be nice, but he is categorically not worth that price. Now, I could see Bowden and Lars Anderson as the masin part of a Gonz deal”
Bowden and Lars Anderson might be enough to get Theo an autographed Adrian Gonzalez jersey.
Ellsbury is borderline average if anything. Well he’d be average if he could get on the field…
Buccholtz may be on the cusp of stardom but I honestly don’t think ellsbury is all that special.
I think I might add Mohammed Ali to the list of the 20th century’s transcendant athletes.
Lee’s AL pedigree could bring extra teams into the mix, and even a couple richer ones. Take the Yankees for instance. The Yankees aren’t necessarily seeking a starting pitcher now as they are understandably pleased with their five-man rotation and likely to become intimately involved in a trade for a top starter only in the event of injury. However, according to people familiar with their thinking, they are said to be so enamored with Lee that they are champing at the bit for next year and plan to put in a call in the coming days just in case they are pleasantly surprised at Seattle’s asking price.
Meantime, a source familiar with the Yankees’ situation suggests they would react to Oswalt with something akin to a collective yawn. That may be a slight exaggeration, but suffice to say, he isn’t even close to their radar at this point, and barring injury, they may not even make more than the most cursory of calls.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0qreQgejj
And I would agree about Secretariat being “trranscendant.” But then again, I am a horse racing fan.
“transcendant.” Sorry about the extra r
JM-
If Sectretariat were a ballplayer. He would have the speed of Rickey Henderson, The power of Hank Aaron, The Consistency of DJ, and the durability of Cal ripken Jr. all rolled into one.
Indeed, greatest horse I ever saw and I’ve been going to the track for a looong time. Of course my grandfather saw Man o’War and said that nothing compared….He said the same thing about Babe Ruth, too. But I gave him more of an argument about Man o’War. LOL
pretty apt definition, MTU.
m-w defines it as ‘exceeding usual limits; being beyond comprehension’:
http://www.merriam-webster.com.....anscendent
Sometimes trying to pin down the true meaning of a word can be a journey. Take the novel ‘Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance’. Robert Pirsig spends hundreds of pages trying to define “quality”. May not sound like the most interesting of premises, but he makes it work.
TM-
Did Mr. S come out of MOW’s bloodline ?
I meant JM. duh.
Man o’War’s daddy is way back in Secretariat’s pedigree, yes indeed.
Completely-
“Sometimes trying to pin down the true meaning of a word can be a journey.”
You could say that one Mr. Aristotle, who spent a great deal of time on that journey, would agree with you.
ALL argument begins with definition, and the same with effective communication.
JM-
We use the term “beast” to describe some ballplayers.
Well Mr. S was the Quintissential “beast”. A true Super-horse.
A transcendant animal. I will never forget what he did in the Belmont Stakes as long as I live. Never.
Hi all -
just got back in from a busy day.
Why is Pete Abe still twittering about Kei Igawa? Yes, it was a mistake, yes we all know it was a mistake; it’s done, it’s almost over. Yawn, yawn, yawn.
So, what’s the news of the day?
I see Jorge’s still a topic, and DeJesus and Lee.
ARod & Tex haven’t had good enough starts to warrant being voted to the AS Game, but it IS very silly that fans of teams band together to keep other players out. However, it is a really creative use of fan boards, no?
It would be nice if Swisher gets voted in because he’s having a really good year – as is Gardner, for that matter. Granderson missed too much time and so far is having a nice, but not great, year. I don’t know enough about what other players are doing to say Swisher or Gardner should start, but I hope they get a nice amount of votes, even if they don’t get there. Jeter’s a perennial and Cano out and out deserves the spot.
“Granderson missed too much time and so far is having a nice, but not great, year.”
I’d have to say Granderson’s year has been disappointing so far, although the outlook is improving especially versus righties.
Roger,
I am of course rooting for the US, but outside of that I am partial to the Germans (which I am sure you are not thrilled to hear
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LGY
No I’m not!haha
You saw the Maradona video I posted?wow
Ellsbury is one of the most overrated player’s in baseball the past 2 years. At least before he a premium position.
But as a LF, he is average at best and shouldn’t have nearly the amount of trade value the media has been hyping him up as recently.
Gardner is only 2 weeks older than Ellsbury. If Gardner keeps up this type of production at the end of 2010 he is and should be considered the superior player.
Gosh SJ, you can be so dense that sometimes I think your head is what’s needed to plug the hole in the Gulf.
I have nothing but respect for what Jorge Posada has done for and meant to the Yankees over the course of his career.
Having said that, giving a 35/36 year old catcher a 4 year deal is not smart business and the fact that Jorge has been injured each year since he signed that contract is proof positive of that.
Of course I don’t think the Yankees would have been better off with Jose Molina as the starting catcher in 08 and 09, but I do think they would have been better off passing on Posada and maybe trading for Victor Martinez, or signing Posada to a more club friendly deal when he discovered that his market wasn’t what he thought it was.
All due respect, but again, I don’t know you, don’t know if you have a nephew and certainly don’t know that your nephew’s agent spoke with you about Jorge Posada’s negotiations three years ago…
Roger,
That Maradona is quite a character. lol. The first move I ever taught myself was the Maradona. Fell on my butt quite a few times
A German taught me almost everything I know about soccer and I have always like their style of play.
Victor Martinez over Posada?
No thank you.
So the Yankees should have seen 1.5 years into the future, passed on Posada, waited that 1.5 years and traded prospects for an inferior player offensively and defensively?
If you haven’t before, now you are just diving into fantasy land.
There is nothing wrong with Jorge’s deal. Money or years.
Especially since still in the 4th and final year of Jorge’s deal, there is no viable replacement available. Even if the Yankees signed him to a super duper team friendly 2 year deal, Jorge would have been re-upped for at least another 2 years after last year and probably more.
Chip was a guy who wanted the Yanks to let Pettitte walk as well.
I’m all for getting younger, but younger doesn’t always mean better. Especially when you’re talking about two guys with 8 WS rings between them in 2007/08.
“or signing Posada to a more club friendly deal when he discovered that his market wasn’t what he thought it was.”
This is the stuff that frankly escapes – people who are fans of the payroll.
Chip, can you name one specific negative consequence of Posada’s deal?
Not the general IDEA that’s it’s better to sign older players to shorter, lesser deal, but an ACTUAL negative ramification of his contract?
“So the Yankees should have seen 1.5 years into the future, passed on Posada, waited that 1.5 years and traded prospects for an inferior player offensively and defensively?”
Maybe they could of won last year’s World Championship in 13 games instead of 15?
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“Maybe they could of won last year’s World Championship in 13 games instead of 15?”
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With a slightly smaller payroll as well! Wow, would that have been satisfying.
And then we would have the pleasure of having a gaping hole at C at the end of 2010! Now that’s how you run a smart business.
I really dont know what is going on with the bullpen . I would like swisher and gardner to go to the allstar games as they have really proved themselfs.