Yankees postgame
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jun 16, 2010 
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After saying before this 8-3 Yankees win over the Phillies that he planned to have A-Rod back Wednesday night, Joe Girardi hedged slightly afterward. He said said that while Rodriguez came through his pregame workout OK, he wanted to see how he felt Wednesday before putting him back in the lineup. Girardi said it would be “a game-time decision.”
CC Sabathia had been 4-0 against Baltimore and 2-3 with a 4.69 ERA against anybody else. This was his first non-Oriole victory since April 16. ”It feels good to beat a good team,” he said. Sabathia allowed three runs and five hits over seven to improve to 7-3. “I got off to a pretty good start,” Sabathia said. “I had a bad May. But I feel ahead of where I’ve been the past couple of years.”
Of the nine times Roy Halladay has given up three homers in a game, the Yankees have been the ones to do it four times, including the last three. ”When he made a mistake, they didn’t miss it,” Girardi said. Hitting coach Kevin Long said, ”We really were disciplined. … The only thing I told them was he had a new pitch, which was a split and he was using it quite bit with two strikes and it was more of a chase pitch for him. … We knew what we were getting. He wasn’t as crisp as I’ve seen him in the past.”
Francisco Cervelli continues to be clutch. He had a two-run single with the bases loaded in the seventh, so he’s 6 for 8 now in those situations. Plus, he’s batting .447 with runners in scoring position (17 for 38) and .579 with runners in scoring position and two outs (11 for 19).
Brett Gardner delivered his fourth triple and the Yankees’ 17th of the season. That’s four short of their total for all of last year.
Robinson Cano has hit in eight straight games and 25 of his last 27 after delivering a double in five trips.
Sergio Mitre’s injury is a strained left oblique. The long man suffered it while taking batting practice Sunday. “When he got up, it felt a lot worse to warm up that day, so we wanted to evaluate him,” Girardi said. “Yesterday he came in and our doctors felt it would be more than just a couple of days, maybe not a whole two weeks. But we’ll have to wait to see. Oblique’s are funny.”
There were some Phillies fans mixed in among the Yankees fans in a crowd that was announced at 47,135. It may have been a combustible mix. “I saw a lot of people leaving in handcuffs,” Curtis Granderson said.
OK, that’s it for tonight.
Ha ask and I shall receive. Nice.
“I saw a lot of people leaving in handcuffs,”
kinda sad..that people cnt just enjoy the game
LOL. That’s not the first time that CC’s called a team crappy. Not Yankee-like, CC!
In regards to the triples, there was a radio segment talking about the power outage. The talk rolled around to the triples. Said that if everyone stayed on pace, this would be the first year since ’84 (?) that no player hit at least 10 triples. My mind went straight to Gardner. Keep it up, GGBG.
Awais June 16th, 2010 at 12:39 am
“I saw a lot of people leaving in handcuffs,”
kinda sad..that people cnt just enjoy the game
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That’s Philly fans for ya.
Grandy gets a lot of triples, too. Him missing a month is probably why no one is currently on pace for ten. It seems more and more like they’ve deadened the balls a bit.
Jaime Moyer awaits tomorrow.
Phil,
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. That’s no one in the majors is on pace for 10.
But, yes, Grandy & Gardy are our main threats.
vblade June 16th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Awais June 16th, 2010 at 12:39 am
“I saw a lot of people leaving in handcuffs,”
kinda sad..that people cnt just enjoy the game
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That’s Philly fans for ya.
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I went to Chicago last year to see the Yanks play the Sox (of course I was there the first 3 games when they lost all 3 and missed the 4th when CC beat Buerhle) and there were still people leaving in handcuffs. White Sox fans were some of the most rude people I’ve ever met in my life. They were my grandpas fav team so I always liked them second best (if thats possible lol) but I despise that team now. Every team has their idiot fans. It’s amazing how people can get so worked up about something that they have no control over. People are so protective of their teams it’s ridiculous
It takes two to tango. Someone was antagonizing them. We should blame both sides. Generally it’s not one team’s fans but drunk fans. Visiting teams’ fans almost always get in more trouble. Two years ago I went two the last three Yanks/Sox games at the old stadium,and more New York fans got kicked from my section than Boston. Full Disclosure, I’m aYankees fan from Minnesota.
You guys don’t know Philly fans, they’ll cut or shoot anybody. Will follow you to the food stand or bathroom or your car, and jack you up!
They are vicious people, hard core , cold blooded. Don’t go to a Philly game wearing another teams logo, you’re playing with your life.The will go postal on you.
“I saw a lot of people leaving in handcuffs,”
kinda sad..that people cnt just enjoy the game
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Philly fans figure the fines are about the same as booking a hotel and while they are in jail they can visit with their NY relatives.
Another homer for Laird tonight. Phelps 5-0 with a 2 ERA.
JB Cox made his triumphant return to the mound tonight. I remember when he was the next Rivera. And it was an ugly return. 5 runs in 1 inning.
This win is especially satisfying, considering that people had this for a Halladay win before the lineup card were even turned in.
Get off the high horse Yankee fans. New York fans are no better than Boston or Philadelphia fans.
The worst is always brought out in games against rival teams. I’ve been to Yankee Red Sox games when people are getting thrown out left and right. It’s actually kind of funny. As the night is reaching the point of beer cutoff the fans get crazy and all the fights start breaking out.
good night all
I went to Yankee Stadium during the World Series where you could watch Game 4 for free on their giant jumbo-tron and this man wearing Phillies gear had to actually be escorted out of the Stadium by security. Mind you, the game was being played in Philly and we were just watching it on the best TV in the world.
I don’t know the extend of Alex’s injury, but either way, I don’t see the need to rush him back. If there is even the slightest chance that this injury could linger, he should get the whole week off.
“As the night is reaching the point of beer cutoff the fans get crazy and all the fights start breaking out.”
Which points to most of the problem: they should not sell alcohol at sporting events. It’s a conscious disregard of a known risk by craven owners in every sport (and the commissioners).
“JB Cox made his triumphant return to the mound tonight. I remember when he was the next Rivera. And it was an ugly return. 5 runs in 1 inning.”
Cox was looked at by many as an 8th inning reliever in the ML. He was never viewed by baseball people as the next Rivera.
Anyway, I’m glad he’s back.
“It’s a conscious disregard of a known risk by craven owners in every sport (and the commissioners).”
Ban alcohol sales, and fans will simply pre-game. The risk-to-reward ratio is microscopic, considering the liabilities created by drunk fans against the massive profits from selling beer. Get off your high horse, please.
Just have to defend ChiSox fans in response to an above post…
Back when I lived in the Midwest, I used to drive to Chicago every year because it was one of the only places I could see the Yankees play (I grew up in NY, so I’ve been a Yankee fan from birth). I’ve also been to Yankee road games in Minneapolis, Baltimore, and Wrigley, and I found the White Sox fans no more or less disagreeable than at any of those other 3 parks. In fact, I’d say the only animosity I ever encountered for my Yankee gear and/or cheering was in Minneapolis, although to be fair, I have been to more games there than in Chicago, including ALDS games in 03 and 04.
All of this is a long-winded way of saying that I never saw anything at US Cellular that approaches what I’ve heard about Phillies fans (and Philadelphia fans in general–I know a diehard Redskins fan who actually left a Skins/Eagles game at halftime for fear of his wife’s safety in the face of what the Eagles fans were throwing at the Skins fans in the stands).
This is just based on back-of-the-envelope calculations, mind you, but I’m having a hard time figuring out how Halladay gets to 30 wins now.
Nice line for Dellin Betances last night:
Dellin Betances: 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K (0.75 ERA)
I was there last night – plenty of fights breaking out in the bleachers and upper deck. I’ve been to plenty of games against the Red Sox and Mets, and I’ve never seen so many people getting tossed by security. I have a little sympathy for Mets fans now.
“All of this is a long-winded way of saying that I never saw anything at US Cellular that approaches what I’ve heard about Phillies fans”
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the father/son tag-team, jumping the field to beat down an opposing team’s 3rd base coach, doesn’t count?
Great game last night and great discussions post game…the yanks are 18 games over .500 and should have the pitching advantage the rest of this series….they really seem to play well at the new stadium, and they may just get their cleanup hitter back tonight.
“This is just based on back-of-the-envelope calculations, mind you, but I’m having a hard time figuring out how Halladay gets to 30 wins now.”
Are you telling us that back-of-the-envelope calculations trump back of the baseball card stats?
Matt Cusick is being sent from Scranton to Trenton because the Yankees are “signing an infielder” who is going to be in Triple A.
“Cusick said that, from what he has been told, the Yankees are signing an infielder to play in Triple-A. Who that is, I don’t know. This is the time of year where some solid, veteran bats are going to be on the market because around the middle of June, anyone who has an out clause in their minor league deals either has to do nothing or make a move (see Winfree, David below). But I don’t know if the Yankees are signing one or promoting someone from Trenton or making a trade.”
http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/yankees/?p=5231
At the start of the season I thought Halladay had a real shot at 25 wins but they just haven’t scored any runs for him in a consistent basis. I thought he would get enough cheap wins from their offense to have a chance when combined with his usual good starts. Not working out that way so far.
Javier Vazquez now sports the same WHIP is AJ Burnett at 1.33.
It doesn’t seem like Vazquez has pitched like a number 2 starter but those numbers should make anyone appreciate just how good our rotation is 1-5.
The Cliff Lee rumors might generate hits or sell papers, but that’s about the extent of their validity.
Only way I see the Yankees going after Lee in season is if one of their starters has a significant injury, otherwise the need just isn’t there.
Go Yankees. Go Braves.
Morning.
It’s a revelation when:
Your BU catcher has around 30 RBI and is so clutch it’s ridiculous.
Your young LF’er is hitting better than Carl Crawford.
And when you have a 24 year old pitcher who is 9-1 and on track for the all star game.
And it’s a revelation when your team is #1 and they’ve done it w/o even hitting their full stride yet.
Folks. These are things that just make you go Hmmm.
And if the the Yankees decide they want to have a SICK rotation of :
CC
AJ
AP
CL
PH
next year. Everybody else shouldn’t even bother to show up.
Imagine if Jacoby Ellsbury was batting .322 with 60 SB potential and an OPS equal to Arod.
I agree that Cashman prefers to wait until after the season to go after Lee. He doesn’t like to pay twice. But if it becomes apparent that TB or Boston is going to get Lee I think he will step in. The NYY look like they can repeat as WS Champions. Letting TB or Boston get Lee could change that. Lee is a difference maker.
CC certainly kept the game interesting
Now maybe Kay can stop reporting how many wins he has against the Os.
But Bret the Hitman,
We have to trade for Cliff Lee, we can dump Gardner to Seattle. Like you said, Gardner is the worst player on the team.
We have to get rid of him, not sure any team would take him in a trade, probably just DFA him. He will probably start failing today and in another week be completely out of baseball.
You have come up with about 10 trade scenarios that include getting rid of Gardner, I am sure you have another 15 or so. Probably have to wait for Thames to get back.
I don’t really see Lee going to an AL east team. The Rays already have a good pitching staff and if TB has $ to spend, they will try to keep Crawford. The sox are already committed to Lackey and Beckett (how is that pre season signing working out???) and have Lester/Bucky. They have other holes to fill.
Brett-
I completely missed the boat on GGBG.
Honestly, I admit that I never thought he would even sniff what he is doing right now.
And I am never happier to be so wrong.
Great win last night!
Doc who?
CC’s the man!
Anyone thinking that we need more from our out field should check again how great these guys are playing. Granderson is now healthy and hitting with power, Swish is putting together an all star season, and Gardner has been clutch not to mention his .320 average & pace for 100runs. I put the Yankees outfield up against anyone’s…
Hey Doreen, I’m already thinking about guess the line up.
I’m not sure if Alex or Georgie will DH. Alex should probably start back up with a couple of days at DH, but then you think about Georgie not 100% catching AJ’s curves in the dirt.
Hmmm…
DFA?
That’s crazy talk.
Could be that TB and Boston would be willing to trade for Lee as a 2 month+ rental. That way they’d only be on the hook for 2 months salary. It would be worth it to them if he helped win a WS. Will be interesting to see what happens as the deadline approaches.
Halladay coming into last nights game, had given up 3 home runs for the season none to lefties, last night he gave of 3 home runs all to lefties.
In the fourth inning CC failed to cover first for the possible double play, he was tired after throwing 29 pitches, and givig up 3 runs.
Nick Swisher shows no fear, Kevin Long did his job getting the bomber ready for this game for sure. A great win for the Yankees because it was a battle of the Aces and CC won !!!
where is that Phiten fella today?
MTU (aka GBURL) June 16th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Brett-
I completely missed the boat on GGBG.
Honestly, I admit that I never thought he would even sniff what he is doing right now.
And I am never happier to be so wrong.
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His swing looks much better this year but I’m still not convinced. He drove the ball last night but that’s not a common thing with him.
But still, .322, 60 SB pace and OPS equal to AROD…
I don’t think anybody expected that.
That Phitin Phella is somewhere having a Phit !
NYYROC
a 2 month rental might work, as Lee has said he wants to test the FA market. He certainly has proven he is WS material.
I wasn’t sure if GGBG would hit enough to be an everyday OF. I believe now. You have to give him and K Long credit for redesigning his swing. No more weak popups to SS. GGBG is beginning to master that slash to LF. He’s doing a great job and he and Swisher should be All Stars.
I see Lee going to the Mets.
His value in the AL is high.
His value in a wide open division in the NL is astronomical.
The only question is if he signs an extension with the Mets and the Mets pay twice like they did with Johan Santana.
If the Yankees want Lee, they will get Lee.
Patrick from CT
I think Girardi is playing mind games w/ us for GTLU. First he says Alex will be back, and will be playing 3rd. Then after the game he hedges his bets.
Bret, Considering what the Mets traded to Minn for Santana, do you really think they paid twice?
LOL!
Bret-
IMO the Mets do not have the booty to trade for a guy like Lee.
Their farm system sucks.
NYYROC June 16th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Bret, Considering what the Mets traded to Minn for Santana, do you really think they paid twice? LOL!
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This is true.
MTU (aka GBURL) June 16th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Bret-
IMO the Mets do not have the booty to trade for a guy like Lee.
Their farm system sucks.
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I don’t follow them so I really can’t say. Maybe they have the chips, maybe not.
I always liked Carlos “The Hot Dog” Gomez. The flashiest .200 hitter ever!
Bret-
Well then take my word for it. They don’t.
Gardner’s job is to get on base and run….cut and slash and dash….keep the ball out of the air. He’s become selective on which pitch to drive. He’s doing his job just fine. I wasn’t too sure about his ability to adjust to big league pitching, but, he’s done nothing to convince me that he belongs in the outfield on a full-time vasis for the yankees. I love being wrong on the side of things working out great for the Yanks.
MTU,
Do you think they would trade Ike Davis?
Our future catcher situation is going to be very interesting as we have two stud prospects in Montero & Romine, yet Cervelli is doing a heck of a job right now. If Cervelli keeps hitting he’ll make it harder for Jesus or Austin to break in to the lineup (Which is a great problem to have).
Cervelli seems to just fit really well (especially defensively), or maybe it seems that way due to the strong catching culture on this team with Posada as the veteran and having Girardi & Pena guiding them.
Bret-
I don’t know. But even if they included him I am not sure they would have enough.
The Mets are one of the worst run organizations in baseball IMO.
Omar Minaya should have been canned ages ago.
That team’s farm has been run into the ground.
The M’s could really use a Catcher and a ss way more IMO.
The Mets are one of the least likely teams to be able to trade for Lee
unless they decide to start using their ML players as bait.
They have a lot of work to do.
I don’t really see TB trading for Lee for the same reasons the Yankees wouldn’t…they don’t have the need and they are operating with many more financial restraints.
Boston on the other hand (especially if Beckett’s injuries linger) could have the need, but would they be willing to trade prospects to rent him knowing the Yankees could outbid for him in the winter? I don’t know.
The Mets aren’t going to trade Davis for a couple of months of Cliff Lee. Starting pitching isn’t one of the Mets’ problems right now. Offense is.
Gardner has certainly exceeded most expectations including my own.
I remember being called a delirious prospect hugger when I suggested he would score 100 runs this year.
As long as his OBP stays in the .330+ area he’ll have a great chance with this lineup.
MTU,
The Mets certainly have a great deal of work to do. They need to sit down and think about how they’re going to compete in the NL East at a time when the division is up in the air for anyone to grab from the first place Braves to the last place Nats.
They could try to model their team after the 2001 Diamondbacks and their Randy Johnson/Curt Schilling 1-2 punch. Arizona rode those 2 guys hard and got a ring for it. The rest of their roster was kind of cut-and-paste.
If the Mets want to get serious, they really should try for a 1-2 of Santana/Lee and just work around that with players like Wright and Reyes.
Certainly the Mariners would want more than just Ike Davis but the Mets also have Fernando Martinez.
Blake-
What has happened to the much ballyhooed TB Rotation ?
Both Davis and Shields have been looking very vulnerable lately.
Not sure that the Red Sox really have that much that’s close to being ready for the majors…certainly nothing in the way of middle infield, catching and starting pitching.
Look at the pedigree of catchers the Yankees have had:
Bill Dickey
Yogi
Howard
Munson
Posada
Bret-
I don’t think FMart is living up to his billing is he ?
“Vinny-
That’s interesting about dog breeds and stuff.
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Manchester terrier was one of the ancestors of the Doberman. I believe , if memory serves that the Manny was crossed with the Rotweiller to produce the Doberman.
I had a friend who was really into exotic dog breeds and he had a Pharoah Hound.
Very unusual and rare. the Egyptian Kings had a nasty habit of taking them into the after life with them.
Looked more like a big cat to me than a dog”
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MTU:
my bad for not getting back. Yesterday, had to step away
yup. You definitely know dogs
The Manchester Terrier is the breed responsible for the Doberman’s smooth jet black coat, and deep mahagony markings. The introduction of the Manchester changed the changed the shape of the Doberman’s head as it’s known today, making it longer, stronger, elegant. Additonally, the Manchester Terrier also contributed to the fast movement/agility of a Doberman and an ability to turn arround very fast.
the Pharoah hound is a beatuiful/interesting dog, as well. They seem to have a very unique personality.
I am not so sure Lee is a rental. I know he’s clearly geared up for free agency but any comments from Cliff Lee and/or his agent could just be posturing. If a team throws above market money at him, he has no reason to enter the open market. If the Mets traded for him and offered him 5 years, 100 million or 6 years 120, how could he turn that down? He’d thrive in a large NL ball park.
An interesting fact from last night: Jamie Moyer has won more than 100 games since his 40th birthday.
Imagine if Andy Pettitte could do the same.
He’d be pushing 400 wins.
the only hole on this team right now is the DH spot, but I could see them still just getting by with Thames and Miranda at some point. A more reliable bat would be nice, but this team is so loaded top to bottom and with Park and Robertson pitching well the bullpen has ridiculous length even with Aceves out since May 8.
Who woulda thought they could be 41-23 with Alex having just 8 HR, Jorge and Granderson each missing more than 20 games already and NJ on the shelf? Pretty remarkable.
By the way Gardner IS on a pace to hit 10 triples. Four in 64 games equates to one every 16 and the Yanks play 162… it’s not complicated math.
MTU,
They are very young. You just can’t expect a staff that young to keep up that pace over an entire season. Tampas rotation pitched virtually at their peak for 2 months and the Yankees hung right with them.
Its why it was kinda ridiculous that writers were comparing them to the 1998 Yankees.
Vinny-
I had no idea that the Manchester was becoming so rare.
Why is the population shrinking ? Disease problem ?
The Yankee have 98 remaining games. Winning 49 of those games gives the team 100 wins. Very achievable for this team. This allows for the normal peaks and valleys along the way.
Blake-
Precisely my point with regard to Davis in particular.
Better get Hellickson ready to fill in.
86,
I agree with your sentiment but want to add that I’m kinda glad Nick Johnson is on the shelf.
He was batting .167 and showing zero signs of life.
That was just an awful signing by Cashman.
Thames/Miranda is a miserable DH platoon IMHO.
Tampa may trade for Lee knowing they get picks for him when he leaves & they can rent him cheaply for part of a year’s salary. Rays like to do that kind of part year thing!
Rays have enough talent in their pool to not miss them.
new thread
OK, I agree the Nick Johnson signing didn’t work out & Thames/Miranda was only a stopgap.
However, it may be a blessing in disguise as there is lineup flexibility to play Posada at DH more regularly and also spell Alex, Jeter, & Tex on occasion.
The Mets aren’t trading Ike Davis for Cliff Lee.
Lee isn’t posturing. He’s testing free agency.
You don’t get this close to free agency and not test it.
Especially when he knows the Yankees are lurking.
That’s bad business and Lee and his agents aren’t that stupid.
MTU
As long as it’s not the Yankees in the trad, other teams put up nothing and the other teams go for the trade. Remember what the Twins wanted from the Yankees for Santana, and look what the settled for instead.
Ray, I’d think that Seattle would want Hellickson or Davis, Brignac and more from Tampa, don’t you think? I can’t see them taking Bartlett over Brignac. Not sure if Tampa has a catcher in the system and it’s doubtful they’d include Desmond Jennings. That would surely be the asking price.
In the fourth inning CC failed to cover first for the possible double play, he was tired after throwing 29 pitches, and givig up 3 runs.
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Thats not true!!! The ball was hit to first baseman Mark Teixeira and CC thought Tex would throw home to get the force. If Teixeira throws home and CC is running to first to cover then he will RUN INTO THE PATH OF TEX’S THROW…so he pulled up.
Charlie changing his starting rotation for this series, might be to his pitchers’s demise. Philly should concentrate on winning their division, instead of pre-playing a WS match up.
Look at the pedigree of catchers the Yankees have had:
Bill Dickey
Yogi
Howard
Munson
Posada
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Tou didn’t include Jor Girardi!!!
“Apple Byte says:
The Yankee have 98 remaining games. Winning 49 of those games gives the team 100 wins.”
This is math with which I’m unfamiliar
Winning half their remaining games would put them at about 90 wins. They’d need to win go 59 and 39 to win 100.
Sloth says:
Winning half their remaining games would put them at about 90 wins. They’d need to win go 59 and 39 to win 100.
ABOUT 90?
EXACTLY 90!
“EdNorton says:
ABOUT 90?
EXACTLY 90!”
With the “about” I took into account the fact that the Yankees may be so far ahead at the end of the year, that rained-out games may not need to be made up.
CC looks spent. I suspect he’ll take a downward turn the rest of the season after the brutal last 2 years on his arm and and overweight body!