Yankees vs. Phillies, Game 2
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jun 16, 2010 
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Update, 7:31: This is an interesting matchup, ancient slow-tossing lefty Jamie Moyer vs. hard-throwing right A.J. Burnett. So far, score one for slo-pitch softball. Moyer “fired” a 1-2-3 first, ending it by freezing Mark Teixeira with an 80 mph pitch, and Burnett has given up an RBI single to Greg Dobbs here in the second. So it’s 1-0. Burnett’s command doesn’t look too sharp. He has already walked two and hit one.
Update, 7:39: Burnett got a 93 mph fastball up and out over the plate, and Shane Victorino lined it to right-center for a bases-clearing triple — 4-0. This is the third straight start in which Burnett has allowed at least four runs.
Update, 7:47: Robby Cano just hit an 81 mph Moyer fastball deep to the bleachers in right-center, so it’s 4-1. Perhaps this is going to be a high-scoring game on both sides. We’ll see.
Update, 7:54: Burnett got another 93 mph fastball up, and Ryan Howard pummeled it over the fence in left-center to make it a four-run margin.
Update, 7:56: Burnett is sure snapping the Phillies out of their collective slump. Another 93 fastball down the middle, and Jayson Werth went the other way to the right-field seats. It’s 6-1. Boone Logan is warming up.
Update, 8:18: What is it with these Yankees pitchers not covering first? CC Sabathia forgot last night and now A.J. Burnett is late getting over there after a nice stop by Mark Teixeira and he has no play on Chase Utley. It was Burnett’s last batter. He was booed off the mound. Logan is in with runners on first and third and one out.
Update, 8:39: At least Logan looks sharp. The lefty, who was just recalled yesterday, has retired five of his six batters. He said yesterday that he cleared his mind and was pitched more aggressively in Triple-A after struggling with the Yankees and being sent down. It’s 6-1 after 4 1/2.
Update, 8:45: That’s homer No. 9 for Jorge Posada – 6-2.
Update, 9:01: Got to hand it to Jamie Moyer. He’s got a two-hitter through six, allowing just those two solo homers. Chad Gaudin is on for the Yankees to start the seventh.
Update, 9:59: Moyer gave up two runs and three hits over eight. Brad Lidge gave up an RBI double to A-Rod in the ninth, but he fanned Posada as the potential tying run to end it. Phillies win, 6-3. It’s the end of the Yankees’ four-game winning streak and nine-game home winning streak.
Get out of this, AJ.
AJ’s front shoulder is opening up too early and that’s hurting his command.
Way to go AJ
crap
Good thing that they will kick Moyer’s butt at some point.
As I said, AJ is the best 5th starter in MLB history.
Thats what happens when you get behind and have to throw fastballs down the middle.
A.J. Burnett is trying his best Kevin Brown impression. I am not an A.J. Burnett hater but the guy is not a number 2. Hughes and Andy should be ahead of him in a postseason series.
“Good one.”
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lol Rich. I know I am in the minority but I do like Kay. He has a live voice and I think he gets the real baseball guys like Paulie, Leiter, etc involved really well.
It’s amazing how inconsistent he is.
Puts the team in a deep hole with truly horrific pitching.
Bad AJ in full view tonight.
this is why burnett will always be a 500 pitcher. he a mental midget
I hope my prediction doesn’t come true when I said Moyer will 1 hit us.
Baaaaaad AJ. Its not really that funny.
This will be a rousing comeback win for the Yanks.
This looks like AJ from last year. His shoulder is flying open and his fastball keeps leaking back over the plate arm side. The ball just sits up and out over the plate.
Great job there AJ. Horrible job and its still early.
Pretty hard to fool the slumping Philly batters when you only have one pitch, and your only other pitch isn’t working. Frustrating!!
He’s hard to watch pitch. Despite his stuff.
If the postseason started today, Hughes and Andy would be ahead of him. It has to be.
It’s amazing how people think struggling with fastball command is somehow tied to mental toughness.
the tease is in full bloom tonight.
he is a clown. 4th best starter for the yanks..
LGY
He does have an interesting relationship with O’Neill.
AJ sucks. 15m a year?
I don’t understand Burnett. He throws strikes one inning and then he can’t find the zone at all during the next inning.
Keep uhm at 4 and the Yankees win…stop the bleeding right here AJ.
Unless AJ can get outs, it doesn’t matter what they do against Moyer.
Even a 47 year old guy can pitch with a 4 or 5 run lead.
Changes the entire complexion of the game.
The Yankees should be embarrassed if they lose to a man named Jamie.
“I’m in Easton PA with directv. Can anyone tell me why I’m blacked out of this game?”
Game is on ESPN and YES?
I know it’s an ESPN game. I should get it in Easton PA.
The Phillies lineup has been terrible lately. Why are you nibbling off the corners with breaking pitches to non hitters like Valdez?
The Phillies don’t put together anything unless you hand them 3 walks in the inning, but even then he could have gotten out if it if he used his head and stopped throwing a curveball that he clearly can’t locate tonight to the 9 hitter on 0-2.
If Burnett is not completely on he is too stubborn to make an adjustment and beats himself. It’s really frustrating to watch him continue to get beaten with the same stupid pitch sequences when he clearly can’t throw them for quality strikes.
Well, the Yankees haven’t had many comeback wins this year so this would be a good time to get one.
And if they lose this game, a little consolation is that it hurts the Mets.
“Unless AJ can get outs, it doesn’t matter what they do against Moyer.”
I’m an optimist!
“lol Rich. I know I am in the minority but I do like Kay. He has a live voice”
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Kay is fine. Except when he calls opposing team’s HR’s. Too much enthusiasm. He is not a national announcer.
Looks like we got craptastic AJ tonight… hope this offense is going to be better than it showed in the first inning.
wonder what would’ve happened if he right call was made on the stolen base.
Kay > Sutcliffe.
Hey, you guys remember when AJ Burnett was a good pitcher?
Yeah, me either.
wonder what would’ve happened if the right call was made on the stolen base.
Kay and O’Neill are good friends. O’Neill though really knows how to bust his chops. It’s funny TV.
Crazy thing about AJ is, he could throw 5 shutout innings after this…..or give up 5 more runs.
You never know what you are going to get from him inning to inning.
there’s one quick out.
3 and 1 counts 2 and 0 and do nothing with it is pathetic
its the second inning shut up
The most important pitch is the fastball
Fastball command is the reason Joba will never be as good as Hughes
Burnett will never be a #1 or #2 because of fastball command
We got the I dont care/ I give up AJ 2nite.
Start the troll calls but that was a horrible display with the bottom of the order up.
Why would it be “embarrassing” to lose tonight?
You do realize it’s not everyday you come back from four run deficits.
Win series. That’s what matters.
Cano !
omg Cano
peace.
Here we go…
cano homerun
CANOOOOOYES
Cano right now is one of the best hitters I’ve ever seen.
too bad a-rod didn’t get on base, cano is amazing
That was a rocket by Cano
that was fair
“Kay > Sutcliffe”
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definitely. Sutcliffe and that psycho hick for the WhiteSox, are the 2 worst.
Cano is the MVP!
Cano is so fun to watch right now.
I haven’t enjoyed watching a player on a daily basis as much since Alex in 2007.
His at bats are must see TV.
Exhale kiddies. Lot of game left.
Keep the panic in check.
bs
it’s like they’re waiting for fastballs
“Cano right now is one of the best hitters I’ve ever seen”
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he almost looks like Bonds (circa 2000). Seriously
granderson gonna hita homerun to watch
3 k’s looking, thats pathetic
Moyer with 3 K’s.. Are you kidding me?
Glad the guy with the 81 mph fastball is getting calls on pitches 3 inches off the plate in either direction. Only way he even has a chance of lasting past 5 against this lineup, otherwise he’d end up walking the ballpark or watching them fly out of the ballpark.
idc scored a run
“Why would it be “embarrassing” to lose tonight?”
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SJ:
don’t bother. It’s a losing battle
lol no one like the phillis thats hilarious lmao
The only thing about A.J. is that if CC or Andy had a bad inning like that you would have alot of confidence that they could hold the score right there and give the Yankees a chance to win. But A.J. is not that type of pitcher.
“he almost looks like Bonds (circa 2000). Seriously”
he’s squaring the ball up with nearly that kind of regularity. He hits the ball on the nose as often as anybody.
Vinny,
Very true. lol
Granderson looks like a guy without a clue at the plate. Cervelli is totally the opposite. I don’t see Granderson improve in the short run.
howard strike out
Kay and O’Neill are good friends. O’Neill though really knows how to bust his chops. It’s funny TV.
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Agreed. And I’m not the biggest Kay fan but I do enjoy it when those two work together. I think they make a good odd couple. The fast talking geek from NY and the Mid-Western jock with that easy drawl. It works.
ffffffffffffffffffffff
Get AJ out of the game.
Not a good sign from AJ.
It’s not just the results with Cano. He literally has no holes in his swing. There is no way to pitch to him. That’s what’s so impressive.
Even with Alex in 2007 if you could bust him inside you could get him out. Or if you could get him to expand outside his swing would get long.
Cano has such a balanced swing. It’s almost perfect. There’s just no consistent way to get him out. He’s got great plate coverage and remarkable bat speed.
AJ has such great stuff but he’s always behind in the count 2-0, 3-1 etc. That is why he is not considered an “ace” like a Sabathia is.
AJ continues to suck, outpitched by Moyer in YS? hello?
AJ i have no fastball command Burnett
On the minor league front, and perhaps not to be out done by Brackman and Betances, Stoneburner is perfect through 3.
Not AJ’s night.
Like Rich said, he’s the number five starter on this team and pitches like one. Just the way it goes.
Great, the Phillies get on a roll at our expense. AJ = new Javier.
Burnett is just one of those pitchers like Oliver Perez. Ton of potential and talent but can’t reach that level.
This is pathetic. It almost looks like he’s just given up out there.
The same exact pitch in the same exact spot pitch after pitch after pitch. What do you expect a good hitter to do to it?
Maybe when he clearly has made an adjustment and started catching up, you want to stop throwing the same exact pitch to him? At the end of the last at bat and the first foul in this one it looked like he was looking for it, so let’s throw it right where he wants it again! BRILLIANT!
I seem to be more annoyed at ESPN showing gratuitous shots of Philly fans acting all giddy every time they score a run.
Jeezus – a bag of old doritos for AJ
And you guys are still wondering why the yankees would be stupid enough to trade for cliff lee ?
AJ burnett is why they are even considering Cliff Lee (and to some extent vazquez and maybe even hughes in case he runs out of gas in october like he did last year)
Aj burnett can not be trusted to pitch 2 or 3 games in a 7 game playoff series – at best he should be pitching in blow out games or 1 batter at a time (if no one is on base since he’d probably throw a wild pitch)
Chin up though, in 3 years when he’s in his last year of his contract he’ll probably pitch better
Cheeses, AJ.
Who’s the long man tonight?
darn
AJ Burnett is pathetic and needs the showers!
This is just f’ing pathetic.
Get him out of there ! He has nothing.
Enough for tonight. We can still win this game, but not with AJ.
Tonight would have been a good game to have Sergio Mitre available.
“Burnett is just one of those pitchers like Oliver Perez. Ton of potential and talent but can’t reach that level.”
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I see your point but I wouldn’t go as far as comparing him to Perez.
Nothing heals a team faster than A.J. Bustnett
Did Granderson not have a clue last night or is that too long ago for you to remember?
Girardi seems to be enjoying watching the game while A.J. gets lit up…
Again – this is the I give up/ I dont care AJ and i know there is plenty of game left unless Joe leaves him in to give up 8-10 runs.
AJ is piece of shxt tonight
today’s opposite day.
Actually, right now I would compare him to Perez lol. He is quitting on the mound. Pathetic.
take this s head out
PATHETIC.
Let’s just keep laying fastballs in there to their power hitters pitch after pitch. That’ll sure get them out.
One pitch pitchers are sitting on the bench in AAA. Why don’t we at least TRY to make an adjustment rather than continuing to go with the SAME THING that clearly doesn’t work?
Werth looking scuzzier than Utley did in the WS.
this is going to be one of “those games”. grab a beer.
AJ – when he’s off – is probably one of the worst pitchers in baseball.
“Even with Alex in 2007 if you could bust him inside you could get him out. Or if you could get him to expand outside his swing would get long.”
Thats true. Cano has no weaknesses in the strike zone, he can hit every pitch. Arod has an unbelievable swing but when he’s not going well you can pitch him inside. With Cano, much like Vlad in his prime, there is no place to go. Cano is a lot like Vlad with his hand eye coordination and plate coverage but with better pitch selection starting this season.
wish the lakers were on tonight. I hate basketball, but i’d watch it.
Ace Ventura is better
A.J. might not even be in the rotation at that point. His stuff will be even worse at that point and with no command he will serve no purpose.
Well, so much for my prediction earlier that AJ would dominate.
It’s still the 3rd inning, we’ll see what happens with the game result.
$15m a year? pathetic
Anybody else having flashbacks to Game 5 last October?
Thank God he didn’t do this in Game 2.
Burnett is a #3 pitcher. He’s too inconsistent to be a #2 or #1
Typical Burnett. Either great pr horrendous. Never in between
don’t complain too much about AJ Burnett.
most people on this site would not have tolderated a rebuilding mode. And AJ Burnett is the type of pitcher you are forced to sign, to reload on the run.
FACT.
There’s a better idea – Boone Logan. Christ, why don’t you just give them a 10 spot and call it a game.
Yankees can still win this game but just in case….Go Braves.
aJ is a quitter.
FU
I absolutely cannot stand watching Burnett when he pitches like this, which is half the time. He is a braindead monkey. An idiot. He has no clue where the ball is going and he never, ever learns. And to think that last year people were blaming Posada for this idiot’s failures.
Cano and Vlad are very similar hitters. Mattingly as well in terms of hand eye coordination, plate coverage and fast hands.
It’s one thing to pitch around Howard or Werth (which he didn’t do, he just grooved fastballs), but walking the 7-8-9 guys is just pathetic. Challenge these guys, they can’t even hit your fastball if it’s down the middle.
What do you want Girardi to do genius?
Mitre is on the DL. It’s either Logan or Gaudin.
Girardi should try not to need the pen for 6 innings tonight.
Why burn out the pen when you may need them tomorrow.
Sometimes, you sacrifice one game to have things in order to win a series the next day.
Ever since mike harkey took over the pitching coach duties A.J. Burnett stinks
I’m afraid he’s not gettin’ any better tonight ! ( AJ )
He gone !
AJ pitching like this irritates me, because it makes trading for Lee more and more likely. I’d prefer AJ pitch like he’s done it before, hold on to our prospects, and then sign Lee in the offseason. But each awful start AJ makes is only going to push them towards giving up Romine or Montero to get Lee for the stretch run.
Let’s chip away.
# joelr224 June 16th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Ever since mike harkey took over the pitching coach duties A.J. Burnett stinks
Hope you’re kidding !
Bronx-
You don’t need to go back that far, try 5 days ago, and 5 days before that one.
AJ should not be in the #2 spot.
let him pitch, he just wanna make $ w/o working.
The Yanks will not trade for Lee but should and i think will sign him in the offseason.
Burnett can be so frustrating to watch sometimes…
Jeremy – i’m all for AJ’s exit out of NY (or his execution) and i agree he won’t be starting in the playoffs if he continues pitching like this – but that still leaves the yankees light in starting pitching come playoff time – like i said you ain’t sure what you’ll be getting in vazquez and you have to prepare in case hughes runs out of gas come late october – and thats why cliff lee may not be a luxury but a necessity come october..
“Ever since mike harkey took over the pitching coach duties A.J. Burnett stinks”
AJ Burnett has looked like how he’s pitched this season for around 10 years.
It’s not the pitching coach. It’s not the catcher. It’s not the team. It’s not the stadium. It’s not even the team he’s facing.
It’s AJ. His greatest opposition is himself.
He just doesn’t have the ability to repeat his complicated mechanics regularly. That’s just the bottom line. He’s unable to do it.
AJ Burnett – ten million dollar arm, ten cent head
Aj is at 74 pitches after 3 innings.
Some nights you stink. It happens.
What AJ has to do is go at least five or six and not kill the pen for the next 2-3 days, regardless of tonight’s result.
i wish aj was free agent at end of year so we could get rid of him 3 more years of this i have seen enough
Well, things could get better….Boone Logan is warming up. Or not. LOL.
What is “chipping away” when every time you “chip away” your gutless starter grooves 2 more fastballs and gives back twice what you just got?
That Cano home run could have swung some momentum back if Burnett could have at least stepped up and shut them down for a few innings. Instead, he goes out there and makes lazy pitches ahead in the count and gives up even more.
A.J. Burnett reminds me of Kevin Brown. The only difference is that Kevin Brown had better command when he was in his prime. Maybe he reminds me of him because of their delivery.
Maybe, if the schedule permits, the Yankees should try and skip a start or two for AJ.
# CB June 16th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Cano and Vlad are very similar hitters. Mattingly as well in terms of hand eye coordination, plate coverage and fast hands.
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Cano cannot hit the terrible pitches Vlad can !
don’t get Russo starting when Pena was hitting bullets last night
Burnett gives up 2 homers and 6 runs in 3 innings and he’s a bum.
Halladay gives up 2 homers and 5 runs in 3 innings and he’s a God.
“# SJ44 June 16th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
What do you want Girardi to do genius?
Mitre is on the DL. It’s either Logan or Gaudin.
Girardi should try not to need the pen for 6 innings tonight.
Why burn out the pen when you may need them tomorrow.
Sometimes, you sacrifice one game to have things in order to win a series the next day.”
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This aspect I definitely agree with, let Burnett stay out there and take his lumps if he will pitch like that.
No need to wear down the bullpen for the game tomorrow and the Mets series.
I thought they would lose last night, so I chalk this up as the 1 game in the series I thought they would drop, just its on a different day.
Russo paused out of the box
“Cano cannot hit the terrible pitches Vlad can !”
His arms aren’t as long, but he can reach outside pitches and make solid contact like few other hitters.
They aren’t trading for Cliff Lee because AJ had a bad night. It’s not a video game.
I wish we had Jamie Moyer instead of AJ.
Frank
You make some sense with the comparison but the thing is AJ is mostly a bum and Doc is usually a god.
Looks like we’ll live with AJ’s contract for a few yrs. unless a trade happens.
Who knows, maybe he’ll improve. ( not )
So far Tampa is losing to the Braves, so fingers crossed after this egg that Burnett is laying.
Why not pick up a game like wittington to fill in the infield? Russo and Pena are horrible offensively.
here comes our great offense to swing early and often and take the old man off the hook.
“Cano cannot hit the terrible pitches Vlad can !”
because he doesn’t swing at them.
They won’t trade for Lee. But I think they need him now more then ever for next year. Especially since some of the young pitching in the farm is not ready yet and A.J. is a mess.
Thanks Captain Groundout!
“Cano cannot hit the terrible pitches Vlad can !”
I said similar not the same. They both have great plate coverage. Obviously Vlad was a total outlier in his ability to not only hit but damage pitches out of the zone.
But they do have a number of qualities that are very similar.
If you replaced all of ‘Matt’s’ posts with Waaah! would anything be different?
Frank June 16th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Burnett gives up 2 homers and 6 runs in 3 innings and he?s a bum.
Halladay gives up 2 homers and 5 runs in 3 innings and he?s a God.
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Frank you’re kidding right? You were not just comparing AJ to Halladay without bringing their career stats into play are you…the only thing thats the same about these 2 pitchers (sadly) is their salaries this year – and the fact that hal;laday is grossly grossly underpaid compared to AJ
“What is “chipping away” when every time you “chip away” your gutless starter grooves 2 more fastballs and gives back twice what you just got?”
Was AJ also gutless when he stopped the bleeding in game 2 of the WS…..this is why nobody pays attention to your posts.
I’m glad that the offense has chosen to work the count against a guy whose stuff is so bad that he is falling behind every hitter because he knows he can’t come in there with a strike or he’ll get hit.
Let’s keep swinging at his pitches 2 inches off the plate in hitter’s counts, that sure will help you hit him.
Why swing at Moyer’s pitches until there are two strikes? He cannot blow fastball by anybody.
I know everyone isn’t watching this game on ESPN, so I wanted to pass along some insights from the commentators:
A.J. Burnett hasn’t touched 97 or 98
You really couldn’t have expected this kind of start from Burnett
Moyer left the 2nd inning in Boston down 9-0, against the Yankees he’s up 6-1 (by the transitive property, the Yankees are vastly inferior to the Red Sox)
pick up a GUY
Just meant that Cano doesn’t chase near as many bad pitches as Vlad.
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Rich in NJ June 16th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
“Cano cannot hit the terrible pitches Vlad can !”
His arms aren’t as long, but he can reach outside pitches and make solid contact like few other hitters.R
“# Corova Milk Man June 16th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I wish we had Jamie Moyer instead of AJ.”
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LOL, okay if you say so.
Granted Moyer ha managed to have given up 1 hit so far
This guy couldn’t get a Red Sox batter out his last start
1 IP, 9 H, 9 ER
Baseball is a strange game to figure out.
“Typical Burnett. Either great pr horrendous. Never in between”
That’s why he is a .500 pitcher. Half the time he stinks, the other half he dominates. Never is he consistent.
sorry- Some of the young pitching in the farm are not ready.
charlie hough i’m guessing
This spring training I saw philly at steinbrenner stadium. Moyer pitched and befuddled the yanks then too…
Well now we’ll see what kind of fight these guys have. You know the Sox would grind back.
Bravos 3
TB 0
Wow. Moyer mowing down this ‘offense’
GET HIM OUT
This start by AJ is partly why winning yesterday was so nice. They only need to win either tonight or tomorrow to take the series.
Exhale Matt. Can’t blame the offense when your starter is this bad tonight.
Believe it or not, the Yankees aren’t going to go undefeated the rest of the way.
Hanson is on the hill for Atlanta also so they got a chance to hold on to that lead.
“A.J. Burnett reminds me of Kevin Brown. The only difference is that Kevin Brown had better command when he was in his prime. Maybe he reminds me of him because of their delivery”
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Kevin Brown gets a bad rap.
he was actually a good pitcher in most of his years with the Dodgers. And a damm good pitcher, when he was in San Diego. Including the playoffs
Blake,
Brilliant comparison, especially since there was barely anybody on base in that game for him to even stop the “bleeding.”
He went out there in Game 5 and was handed a 1-0 lead and immediately gave back 3 runs, then got knocked out in the 3rd inning in a potential World Series clinching game. In a potential ALCS clinching game he went out in the first and gave up 4 runs before even recording an out, and then actually was handed a lead in the 7th and walked the 8 and 9 hitters in front of the top of the order.
Burnett has to be perfect or he gets rocked, mainly because he’s too stubborn to make any kind of adjustment and continues to throw the same pitches that clearly aren’t working and getting beaten on them. Where are the guts? Where is the bearing down? CC last night was all over the place last night and figured out a way to hold them to 3 runs over 7 innings. Burnett kept trying the same thing that hasn’t worked and gave up 6.
Dam I hate Boone Logan
Typical Yankees. Hammer a dominant pitcher one day, suck it up against a guy who throws garbage the next.
Like it matters. Burnett made sure that the Yankees were out of it real quick. Not only did he give up the 4 runs in the 2nd, but as soon as the Yankees scored a run he gave that one back plus one more.
Don’t score any more Yankees! Burnett will give double the number back.
Jamie Moyer and Halladay are both gods amongst men. Gods I tells ya!
A.J. is not the type of pitcher that can adjust and keep his team in the game. He just keeps on giving up runs, walking guys. It gets worse not better with him. With CC and Andy they can hold the line.
yankees can come back.
I know AJ is horrible at holding runners on but Posada isn’t helping the situation. Girardi is going to have to think long and hard about making him a permanent DH
Posada really can’t catch.
CB,
Thats the way I look at it.
I don’t understand how some folks can get so down on the team from game to game. Especially, this team.
Is it horrible to wish burnett blows out his elbow again?
Phillies bullpen is awful, jack up Old Man Gloom’ s pitch count and pound the bull pen
With all the comments about Gardner on today’s blog, plus a comment or two about Howard, I thought I’d take a look at the two and see how they are doing this year (based on stats before today’s game). Well, we all know how good GGBG has been this year, but did we know that he has been better than Howard?.. Better AVG, better OBP and better OPS. Plus, better BB and SO rates. Better even in a simplistic “Runs Created” stat (=R + RBI – HR … not the official sabermetric RC stat) per at bat is better (63/202 vs 70/248 = 31.1% vs 28.2%).
AB R H HR RBI BB SO SB AVG OBP SLG OPS
202 44 65 3 22 28 32 22 .322 .406 .406 .842 Gardner
248 37 70 10 43 21 66 0 .282 .344 .457 .802 Howard
“You know the Sox would grind back.”
You mean the third place team? You’re right. They are legendary.
For instance, when the completely folded against the Angels in the playoffs last year. That was huge.
Or when they lost 13 out of 15 games to the yankees the second half of last season and the opening of this one.
What a come back juggernaut.
ESPN is completely right. Infinite grinderness.
Where is phittin or whatever his or her name is when you need him/her?
SJ,
Who do you think you are talking down to all of us? Grow up.
And where am I blaming the offense for the score? It certainly doesn’t help you score any runs when you swing at balls in the majority of at bats, which would be the case regardless of the score. Burnett has been terrible tonight, but if they can’t score enough runs off of Moyer to stay close in this game then that’s pretty terrible as well.
This is a guy who they should score at least 4 or 5 runs against. 81 mph fastball, he can’t get you out with that unless you swing at pitches out of the strike zone. Even in a good spot it’s not hard enough to induce weak contact.
Yes, the Red Six always comeback. What place are they in?
Matt,
get off the ledge
“Blake,
Brilliant comparison”
I thought so too.
If I was Girardi I’d bench AJ and CC for a start.
Brain lock.
what is it with not covering 1st by the pitcher
AJ really has stopped competing out on the mound. Really sad.
Burnett did not cover first base, PATHETIC.
How can you not call this a gutless start now? Laying it right in there to guys like Howard and Werth, and then he has the nerve to not even bust it to first base on a grounder.
At least try to compete.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
vinny-b
Yeah you make a great point. Kevin Brown was good pitcher in his prime. He is known for being bad with the Yankees but he was way better than Burnett.
Thank you.
Good for Joe, AJ needed to take a seat after that embarrassment.
The worst thing of all about potentially losing this game is that Phitin Phillie Phanatic or whatever his name is will be sure to return.
Doesn’t look like he is going to be able to eat innings either.
“# Jeremy June 16th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
A.J. is not the type of pitcher that can adjust and keep his team in the game. He just keeps on giving up runs, walking guys. It gets worse not better with him. With CC and Andy they can hold the line.”
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I’ve long since made peace with A.J. Burnett being a crapshoot on the mound on any given night.
You honestly never know what he will do, he can go out and give up 3 runs or he can go out and give up 5 in one inning.
He is reliably inconsistent over the length of the season. Same thing we saw for large stretches last season.
Its part of the package with him.
Smart Burnett strikes again !
Oh, Matt, grow a brain.
Believe it or not, but AJ feels worse than you do tonight. He’s the one out there, in plain view, for everyone to see get clobbered. He’s the one who’s letting down his teammates, who were depending on him. He’s the one who will take the loss if this lead holds up.
And if they do go on to lose, it does not condemn them for the rest of the season. By itself, it means nothing. Nothing. They lost, what, 59 times, last season, and still won the World Series.
So, pour yourself a drink (if you’re old enough), and calm down. The world will still turn on it’s axis and go on tomorrow. Like Scarlett O’Hara, in much worse circumstances than you, said, “Tomorrow is another day.”
if you bench them, who starts?
There is a lot of whack Yankees “fans” on this blog tonight
# vinny-b (Brett Gardner will never see the bench again) June 16th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
yankees can come back.
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Absolutely. But the pitching needs to stop giving up runs. And since Ace is injured and Mitre is out with an injury, who is available that you trust to do that?
We’ll quickly find out if Boone Logan can be that man.
thats alright our bullpen can shut them down long enough to get some runs off of 90 year old Moyer and the phillies bullpen
AJ is a good pitcher, but his variability index is off the charts.
The look of disgust on Teixeira’s face was pretty telling.
@CB. Yea the 3rd place team that came back 3 days in a row vs us at Yankee Stadium. That team. Or that doesn’t count as grinding it out??
great, now we’re stick with Base on Balls Boone Logan
Matt June 16th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
SJ,
Who do you think you are talking down to all of us? Grow up.
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Matt you’re funny, you just told an 85 year old geezer to grow up, although I don’t think its him but imposter or not he’s still an 85 year old geezer. True story.
Maybe Burnett realizes where he is !
AJ
PHILLY THANKS YOU, WE KNEW YOU’D COME THROUGH FOR US and make Moyer look good.
Go Phitins
I can honestly say that I don’t like AJ Burnett after watching this game and that pathetic attempt to cover first base… I’m all for bringing Cliff Lee to solidify this staff. With Vazquez leaving and uncertainty with Pettitte it makes sense. Then AJ could be his 4-5 spot where he should be!
“They aren’t trading for Cliff Lee because AJ had a bad night. It’s not a video game.”
*A* bad night, no, of course not. But 5 of AJ’s last 8 starts have been barely serviceable or brutal. If they feel like that inconsistency is going to hurt them in the long run, why not just go ahead and do what everyone assumes they’re going to do anyway? AJ never had a stretch like this last season, so I doubt they’re just going to accept, “This is who AJ is, and we won the Series with him last year”. That may be true, but last year, he never went through a sustained stretch of ineffectiveness like this.
Before this game is over, the Yankees will have a chance to get back in the game.
That is the 2nd time in the past 2 nights that has happened with Yankee starters not covering 1st, that is not something you like to see from a team at all.
The Yankees are better than that to not do the fundamental things in games.
People need to stop calling everyone else out for A.J. Burnett’s woes and call out A.J. Burnett. The guy is just like Oliver Perez.
AJ Burnett pulling a Hideki Irabu in all facets tonight. Throws a real stinker and can’t cover first.
of course the week Mitre goes down is the week a starter can’t get out of the 4th
AJ=quitter
trade for Lee
i know many bloggers here don’t believe in booing, but i think aj deserved every signle boo he received, and then some.
that was a loser’s outing.
no guts, no heart. very disturbing.
Boone Logan is in… game’s over…
There is no “suppose to” in baseball Matt.
That’s what you don’t get.
Where they “supposed to” score 6 runs and hit 3 HR’s against Roy Halladay last night?
You give ANY pitcher an early five run lead and he can expand the zone and navigate around trouble spots in a lineup.
So yes, grow up Matt and stop crying. You are only here whining when they are losing in games.
It’s why you are mocked on here.
Oh, Matt’s here.
I guess the Yankees must be losing?
AJ is really not focused tonight – he seems disgusted with himself and not able to get over his mistakes. I don’t remember him having a game where he’s been like this. I mean, he’s had bad games, or bad innings, but I can’t recall this type of performance from him – like he wants to just throw his glove and leave type of demeanor. Not covering 1st was inexcusable, and I’m glad Girardi pulled him now even though that’s not great for the pen.
What did you guys see from him? He couldn’t seem to find anything to work for him and he let it get to him.
“AJ really has stopped competing out on the mound. Really sad.”
I think you nailed it earlier when talking about how his mechanics make it impossible for him to consistently pitch at a high level. However, performances like this make it hard to entirely dismiss the ‘lack of mental toughness’ criticisms.
The combo of Burnett and Posada turns the game into an absolute track meet.
Why is Logan on the team? John Alb can’t get a shot?
someone needs to check the phillies bullpen for a pair of binoculars lol
so – unwritten rule question: how many runs do you have to be up by for stealing a base to be bad form
Actually I recall A.J. going through a stretch like this last year where he was horrible.
Wow. Just wow. Sometimes this team perplexes the hell out of me.
I agree with the Boo’s… Did you see Tex’s face when he scooped that ball and so no one at first base?.. He was not happy.
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!
“The combo of Burnett and Posada turns the game into an absolute track meet.”
I don’t think Posada has a had a shot in this game. The steals have been on the pitcher.
Joe,
So where did I say it would “condemn them for the rest of the season?”
Grow up. They are playing like crap tonight. That doesn’t mean they will tomorrow, but they certainly are tonight. If you can’t accept that, then turn off the game. Getting insulted any time someone has the nerve to insult one of your “boys” doesn’t make you better than people who rightfully criticize a guy who goes out there and clearly doesn’t compete.
When you start laying it in there to guys, you are giving in and letting it unravel. Good pitchers go out there without there best stuff and focus and make quality pitches and make an adjustment. Burnett goes out there without his best stuff and sulks around and lets himself get beaten. Of course he feels bad about it, but how about instead of sulking around he tries to hold it there and keep his team in the game?
If he can’t do that because he doesn’t have enough “pitches,” then maybe he needs to work on a cutter or something else to keep them from squaring up his 4-seamer. He worked on a change this year but rarely uses it, and he has that supposedly great 2-seamer but completely abandoned it tonight even though they were crushing his 4-seamer.
loading the bases for a guy who has enough trouble throwing strikes?
Shut up SJ44. You only come out during losses. Go back in your hole. Phony.
“Yea the 3rd place team that came back 3 days in a row vs us at Yankee Stadium. That team. Or that doesn’t count as grinding it out??”
And before that the Sox lost 13 out of the prior 15 games they played against the yankees.
The yankees shellacked them over an over. The Sox couldn’t even compete.
So no, that doesn’t particularly count as something you can generalize.
Some Yankee fans still worship at the alter of the Red Sox believing that the Sox have some kind of magic or bag full of intangibles that they and only they have.
They’re in third place. All they are “grinding” out is missing the playoffs.
BloggingBombers Why don’t the Yankees ever get players like this? RT @hoynsie Shelley Duncan hits his second 2-run HR in as many games against the Mets.
1 minute ago via web
Matt = Porcher?
Games over. Logan is brutal
“Shut up SJ44. You only come out during losses. Go back in your hole. Phony.”
Down boy.
I don’t buy the hype about the personal catcher crap, but really AJ can’t hold runners and Posada’s arm is not what it was – why did Cervelli start last night instead of tonight?
“BloggingBombers Why don’t the Yankees ever get players like this? RT @hoynsie Shelley Duncan hits his second 2-run HR in as many games against the Mets.”
Feinsand offers very little.
@CB. Did the Sox not grind it out and come back those three games? Is it so hard to give them credit? Grow up.
Logan flashed some good command, maybe he learned something since last time….
if this offense would stop bailing out Moyer we could have a chance at making a game out of this mess…..
Anyone know why Winfree was released ? Was leading SWB in RBI’S
on other, more encouraging, pitching news:
stoneburner = 5ip, 2h, 0er an ERA of 2.38 so far…
Bench CC because AJ is pitching badly? lol
That’s pretty funny.
Ace,
The Yankees are 5-3 against the Red Sox this year and are five games ahead of them in the standings.
Really, have a clue. We have enough morons on here tonight, why add to it.
“However, performances like this make it hard to entirely dismiss the ‘lack of mental toughness’ criticisms.”
On that play, I think AJ was just so frustrated that he just stopped focusing on the game at hand.
He’s talked about it himself – needing to focus and concentrate.
He fights himself. In the process he hurts the team in a variety of ways.
Alright time for some silver lining:
Logan getting two big outs against tough leftys.
Now its time to score some runs.
More than possible against Moyer.
That was a great job. Could have gotten really ugly. Second time through the order Moyer is the Yanks. Lets chip away here. 2 runs at least!
No one gets people more riled up than old sj. Can’t disagree with those who hate him. He’s obnoxious.
Matt,
Just don’t think its productive to call a guy gutless. Just as a drill, try posting a 500 word thesis on something positive the Yankees do….see if it makes you feel better.
What Boone Logan just did is a prime example of why Burnett deserves to be ripped for his performance tonight.
When runners are on base you don’t have to completely implode if you just focus and make better pitches. Burnett has been getting to 0-2, 2-2 counts and such and making lazy pitches over the plate and getting burned.
When you don’t “have it,” sometimes you have to try something different to see if you can find something that works. Burnett keeps throwing the same pitches over and over again and wonders why it isn’t working.
Not-so-fun fact:
Boone Logan, who hasn’t been particularly great out of the pen this year, may end this game with a lower ERA than Burnett.
Burnett’s ERA is almost 4.33. Given that about a month ago, it was under 3.00, that tells you just how awful Burnett has been over that time period.
Why do some Yankee fans always talk about the Red Sox like they are some gods ?
If you think they are so great and you love them so much then go join Red Sox nation and post on NESN.com
1 hit folks. 1 hit.
@SJ44. Did or did the Sox not come back all three times at the stadium? When left for dead each game did they not grind it out and get back in each game? Maybe u should actually watch the games instead of complaining here
Yankees have 2 days off, the 24th and 28th before the All Star break. They could skip one start after the Yankees play Arizona, before they play the Dodgers in LA.
Porcher,
I’m an easy guy to find. Come on down and make me punk.
You will go home in a box.
Oh, Matt, you really have so much to learn.
“Growq up”? You really have no idea what you’re talking about.
I never said I couldn’t accept their losing tonight. In fact, the tone of my comment was that I could accept it. You are the one who’s undies are too tight.
AJ did stink tonight, and maybe he did sulk. So what? Get over it, fella.
You sound like the famous “Angry Young Man” of Bill Joel’s song.
Chill. Try that drink. Inhale. You’ll be a much better person.
CB -
Frustrated! That’s the word I was looking for, not necessarily disgusted. Clearly frustrated with what he wasn’t able to do.
You’d have to think at this stage of the game, AJ is who AJ is. BUT, he can just as easily come back next start and dominate.
Yankees bought themselves a headcase. He has a ring, guaranteed money , and has checked out!
# Joey June 16th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
someone needs to check the phillies bullpen for a pair of binoculars lol
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Somebody needs to check Burnett’s jock for a pair of balls.
Now I am freaking starving…I am so susceptible to suggestion
Man, the negative tone is overwhelming here. Fwiw, I agree with folks criticizing AJ for essentially quitting tonight. And to rag on people who utter such criticisms is pretty infantile, as long as those criticisms are intelligent and based on the evidence (as I think Matt’s 8:23 post was). Pomposity is a real turn off and unwanted, even if the person exhibiting that characteristic has legitimate creds as a baseball observer. On a lighter note, Stoneburner through 5 with 2 hits and no runs. The Tampa rotation has gotten very interesting and exciting to follow. Just one man’e opinion. Lighten up, folks.
# Tyler June 16th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
The combo of Burnett and Posada turns the game into an absolute track meet.
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Knocking Posada is so stupid !!!!!!!!
This blog is more entertaining than the game right now.
I have to tell you guys, I’m not all that upset by tonight.
Hear me out. I was listening to XM radio baseball today and if they said it once, they said it a dozen times, the Yankees were expected to pound Jamie Moyer. And so, naturally, I got a bad feeling about this game.
It’s still early, though, and if the pen can do a good job, there’s still a chance to turn the game around.
I’m not saying the Sox r better. Just that that team grinds out games and doesn’t give up. Have u seen there OF? That pen? Any starter not named Lester n Bucholz? Give credit where it’s due.
AJ blew chunks tonight. That is not debatable
What is however is why the Yankees still have 1 hit off of Jamie Moyer.
That is not cool.
“Is it so hard to give them credit?”
There’s a difference between giving them credit and suggesting that they are some great team that always comes back – which is what you posted.
This is exactly what you wrote:
“Well now we’ll see what kind of fight these guys have. You know the Sox would grind back.”
I don’t know anything of the sort. You are trying to argue that if the Sox were losing this game this way you are certain that they would come back. And then you are suggesting that if the Yankees don’t then they are somehow the lesser team than the Sox. In particular that they somehow have less heart.
That’s just nonsense.
You were the one that held the Red Sox – a team in 3rd place that would miss the playoffs if the season ended now – as a barometer to measure the yankees by.
The Red Sox aren’t a yard stick for the Yankees. The Yankees won the world series. They are in first place now.
They are the yard stick for excellence.
Too many Yankee fans can’t understand that.
SJ44 — You’re a condescending tool. It’s high time that you stifled your arrogance.
Actually, I am watching the games ace.
I’m watching a first place team having a bad night and you are worshipping a third place team for making a comeback.
Not seeing how that makes the Red Sox better than the Yankees.
looks i’m going to be right. crap
Where u at SJ44? I’ll meet u anywhere
Yankees flashing their warning track power muscles tonight, big time – trying to get back into it with 3 run HRs with no one on, playing right to Moyer.
I guess winning 27 championships doesn’t mean much and doesn’t look good compared to the Red Sox track record.
Wow. So the Yankees were capitalizing on Halladay’s mistakes last night, yet Moyer throws fastballs right down the middle and the Yankees just watch them go by? Wow.
Hopefully we can start the comeback in the 5th.
Of course, the doomsayers and bridge jumpers are out in force.
“Why do some Yankee fans always talk about the Red Sox like they are some gods ?”
I don’t get it. I really don’t. It’s as if 2004 will never end for some yankee fans.
if I recall correctly the Yankees have played a number of games when losing in the 9th inning they’ve come back to score runs…they didn’t give up. AJ pitched poorly tonight…ok and what? they were going and are still going to lose games. They’ll get blown out, lose close ones and win in the 9th. It’s baseball. that’s how this works. If you head out to the ledge each time the lose/are losing you’re going to be out there a lot.
The Yankees were taken off their game thanks to A.J. Burnett. When a pitcher implodes like that it just deflates the entire team.
# blake June 16th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
“Cano cannot hit the terrible pitches Vlad can !”
because he doesn’t swing at them.
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That’s what I said a few posts later !
After 4 innings Moyer is at 59 pitches.
“# Porcher June 16th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Where u at SJ44? I’ll meet u anywhere”
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LOL,
@SJ44. These people r right. Arguing with a rube like u who only wants to fight with people is pointless. Good luck with that bud
@CB. If u can’t understand a team that grinds n fights that’s on u sweetie.
Logan with a nice fielding play, meanwhile AJ would have just stood around waiting for it to roll to Tex
maybe i’m missing something, but all of moyer’s pitches look exactly the same. Hopefully they hold philly to the 6 and adjust to batting practice.
I don’t understand why it’s so hard to hit moyer. Almost every pitch is between 78 and 82. Sinker and slider.
Mental note for AJ – When Boone Logan is pitching better than you are – you might want to go out and get a clue.
I’m easy to find punk. Do some homework.
SJ is all talk.
Ace,
The Red Sox only played 2 games at Yankee Stadium, not 3.
And did Beckett not get absolutely pummeled at Fenway Park and basically stop competing when he hit Cervelli and Jeter after getting ahead in the count?
If the Sox are so invincible then how come they have a worse run differential than the Yankees and are sitting in third place?
Another night and Blowhard SJ makes more friends!!
“Frustrated! That’s the word I was looking for, not necessarily disgusted. Clearly frustrated with what he wasn’t able to do.”
Doreen-
I do think it’s frustration. But that frustration at times just completely boils over and overwhelms him. It gets so bad that he almost stops functioning out on the mound. His frustration overwhelms the concentration needed to compete at the professional level
Logan pitching his way into ‘decent trade chip’ status?
Should I google ‘SJ44′ for an address or something. If your so easy to find and all.
Yankees need to put some runs on the board in the 5th inning.
I haven’t quit on this game, they aren’t facing Sandy Koufax here.
The Yankees can get 5 runs in the remaining 5 innings.
They need to start actually hitting Jamie “AARP” Moyer
I know I haven’t been around during games lately, but are these the crazies who post during games? it’s not game 7 of the world series…will you just relax.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOne
Wouldn’t it be funny if the Yankees came back and won this game.
@RS. Did they not come back both games? What’s so hard to get about this? I’m not saying they r the bees knees here. Just that they can grind n fight
“And did Beckett not get absolutely pummeled at Fenway Park and basically stop competing when he hit Cervelli and Jeter after getting ahead in the count?”
That doesn’t count. The Red Sox always grind it out.
Unlike the Yankees who had how many walk off wins last year on their way to the world series?
But it’s only the Red Sox who grind it out.
They are incomparable.
Rishi –
Yup – one game. That’s all.
Also, heard on the radio today, none of them wanted to “waste” time talking about the Yankees because the Yankees are the best team in baseball. They actually said that. And they said they were the best team in baseball without ARod really getting hot, with Tex in an extended slump, with Posada missing extended time, getting their best pitching from Hughes and Pettitte and their most production from Swisher and Cano.
So, I wouldn’t worry so much.
“# Patrick June 16th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I don’t understand why it’s so hard to hit moyer. Almost every pitch is between 78 and 82. Sinker and slider.”
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Because the Yankees are trying to pull every slop off of that junkballer, instead of just taking him to right field, he lives on the outside corners with slow slop, Yankees need to serve it to right.
okay, who wants to guess how many warning track fly outs we see from the Yankees in this inning and the rest of the game?
and Jeterian ground outs?
I didn’t like Logan getting called back up, but GJ Boone!
Good night children ! ( you know who you are )
LOL ! If you talked to some Red Sox fans about grinding it out and the Red Sox being so clutch some of them would laugh in your face.
We’re not saying it’s exclusive to Burnett, but it becomes pretty obvious when a guy stops competing and there is no excuse for it regardless of the situation.
Remember Game 5 of the World Series last year? The one they lost by 2 runs? Not that it would have unfolded the same way, but 2 of those runs were solo HR that Phil Coke gave up by just throwing fastballs down the middle in an apparent blowout game. He pretty much stopped competing out there and may have changed the entire complexion of that game.
Yes these guys are human, but you have to control your emotions out there and not let it get away from you. Burnett completely gave in tonight and that’s why it’s so embarrassing.
I love the notion that team A “grinds and fights” when they come back to win, but team B “rolls over” when they don’t.
So when the Yankees have comeback wins or put up 8 against a team throwing the best pitcher in the game (which was YESTERDAY, by the way), they don’t “grind and fight”…
Yet, when they Sox get clobbered 10-3 (by said Yankees), they didn’t “roll over”…
Okay, got it.
Come on Braves please!
Didn’t surprise me. I saw this coming all the way. A one-hit complete game shutout by Moyer.
I knew it. A crafty lefty who throws in the low 80s.
“You sound like the famous “Angry Young Man” of Bill Joel’s song”
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any Billy Joel reference is +10 points. And is part of why NY/NY State is the greatest place in the world.
Come on Yankees get some runs up on the board already.
The Yankees don’t need to grind back to win games.
They mash taters like when they put up a 4 spot on Papelbum.
I do not know who would win a fight between SJ44 and Porcher, and I do not care.
I do know that Matt would write a negative 200 word essay on the loser.
Figured SJ44 would run and hide. All talk
There is so much idiocy on this site right now its incredible.
Ill stop short of saying that you are all morons because we all know about the reasonable people here.
The Red Sox have bad records against some of the worse teams in baseball but you want to call them clutch and grinders. LOL !
simon and garfunkel are kinda creeping me out
CB -
I wonder if AJ sees a sports psychologist. He needs a “happy place.”
Seriously, though, it is too bad.
I thought he’d gotten himself under control to some extent – limiting his “badness” to one inning, but then coming back and doing okay, keeping the team in the game. Actually I haven’t seen it this bad since the game last season against the Red Sox, (but I didnt’ actually “see” that game – we were at a Thunder game that afternoon.)
yikes
come on
Can someone explain to me what it means to “grind and fight”? I’m being serious. Does it mean having long at-bats and seeing pitches? Playing base-to-base? Hitting lots of homeruns? Explain exactly what the Sawx do when they “grind and fight”? What EXACTLY are they doing that they Yankees are not? Quantify it for me. Don’t give me nebulous terms which don’t have meaning.
Getting blown away by Jamie Moyer – a new low.
I do know that Matt would write a negative 200 word essay on the loser.
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LOL
CB is so blind he thinks Lester is an average pitcher. You know actually being objective n sane isn’t a drawback here.
Sometimes Jamie Moyer just hits his spots and pitches perfectly despite his velocity and overall suckitude. Tonight seems like one of those nights.
Moyer keeps coming low inside to Posada and the mope can’t adjust
HR JORGE
hip hip JORGE
It truly is amazing how upset people get about one bad game. It is also kind of fascinating to think that Vazquez has out-pitched AJ over the past month.
I guess Jorge doesn’t know how to “grind and fight”.
Moyer is now 1 HR away from tying most career HRs allowed.
YES. No 1 hitter
well maybe we will get 6 solo homers like the Jays did that one day?
Grind n fight means when ur down 5 runs in the 3rd u don’t quit. U scratch a run here. 2 here. And u make it a game. Instead of bring held to 1 hit by the crappy Moyer. That’s grinding.
What Burnett did was simply a pitiful outing, but the Yankees hitting to have had only 1 hit off of Jamie Moyer is just downright awful so far.
Nice Job, Jorge!
There will be a chance to win this game.
“Moyer keeps coming low inside to Posada and the mope can’t adjust”
really?
LOL Doreen and Rishi trying to be all logical when the children are having a meltdown.
4 more HRs and we’re back in this.
first pitch swinging from Granderson after K-ing before. unbelievable.
# Joba Farnsworth (Gardner > Crawford) June 16th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Moyer keeps coming low inside to Posada and the mope can’t adjust
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I think he just did.
Jamie Moyer: he don’t give up walks, singles, doubles, or triples. Just homers, baby.
But we’re going to need more than solo shots in order to win this game. Unless they hit A LOT of solo shots.
Wish someone was on base during that HR, but I’ll take something to jump start this team.
Ace,
Stuff it.
Even a CB imposter would write more intelligent posts than yours.
Were the Red Sox grinding it out when they got swept by the Orioles?
And let’s assume that their offense does grind out runs when the team is down. Does that mean that their entire pitching staff is full of quitters since they often give back all the runs the offense puts up?
Phil Coke did not ” pretty much stop competing” in that game.
He missed location and got punished. And I wasn’t overly crazy about the guy’s talent but I remember him being very upset about his performance that night.
It’s a term that was created by Theo Epstein to describe the little ($163 million dollar) engine that could team known as the red sox.
I’m glad that the “grind and fight” Sawx gave it their all when they lost to the Yankees 10-3 and 14-3. But at least they “grind and fight”.
All quiet SJ44. Figured. Chicken
Jamie Moyer: he don’t give up walks, singles, doubles, or triples. Just homers, baby.
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Didnt Boston have something like 9 doubles off him in 1+ last week?
“How did Moyer allow 9 runs to the Sox and we manage only 2 hits?”
The Sox are better than us.
4 innings to get 4 runs.
Ace
Please. You give so much credit to the Red Sox but very little to the Yankees. Which is why I asked if you were a troll. The fact that you call the Red Sox so clutch and grinders proves it.
I’m not saying that they are not clutch but the sox have had some really bad games and have not been clutch even against some of the worse teams in baseball.
Did the Yanks fight vs Toronto? 2 can play that game. If u think the Sox don’t fight ur a super blind fan who’s clueless. But enjoy that
# ac1 June 16th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Jamie Moyer: he don’t give up walks, singles, doubles, or triples. Just homers, baby.
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Didnt Boston have something like 9 doubles off him in 1+ last week?
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When you can play pepper of Da Monstah, you’d have a thousand doubles too.
this may be where we miss Mitre. Gaudin up
ive been saying for an hour that kay didnt get that question. they will win the east, and not the pennant.
Didn’t surprise me. I saw this coming all the way. A one-hit complete game shutout by Moyer.
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Try again Kreskin.
@Jeremy. I was pointing out an example of a team that fights back down early. If u can’t see that there’s nothing I can or will do for ya. Thanks
gus h. June 16th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
?How did Moyer allow 9 runs to the Sox and we manage only 2 hits??
The Sox are better than us.
Clearly. That’s why they are in third place.
please keep logan in as long as possible (cant believe i said that). NO GAUDIN!
Whew, Rays just had 2nd and 3rd and Longoria flew out, still 3-0 Braves.
Bronx Jeers,
You can say that about any pitch a guy makes, but he was falling behind in counts to good hitters and just throwing it right down the middle. He wasn’t missing spots, he was just laying it in there because they were down by a lot of runs and he didn’t want to start walking guys. But just throwing it right down the middle is still a lazy pitch.
He came out and said he wanted the ball the next night, but no way anyone would have gone near him after the way he had pitched in the playoffs thus far.
The Red Sox=177 million dollar payroll. Yeah some little engine that could.
# The Other Phil (Don’t feed the trolls) June 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
# ac1 June 16th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Jamie Moyer: he don’t give up walks, singles, doubles, or triples. Just homers, baby.
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Didnt Boston have something like 9 doubles off him in 1+ last week?
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When you can play pepper of Da Monstah, you’d have a thousand doubles too.
lol
# Ace June 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Did the Yanks fight vs Toronto? 2 can play that game. If u think the Sox don’t fight ur a super blind fan who’s clueless. But enjoy that
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I believe it’s you that thinks the Yankees don’t “grind and fight”. I’m just trying to get an understanding of what the 3rd place team is doing that the first place team is not. You know, the defending World Series Champion first place team. The team which is covered by the blog you are currently posting on, which would assume that you would probably be a fan of said team.
I’m not saying the Sawx don’t “grind and fight”, I’m trying to understand what it is that is so special about the Sawx and their “grind and fight” attitude that the Yankees don’t have, according to you.
SJ44 also said Jim Joyce consistently ranks as one of worst umpires.
“All quiet SJ44. Figured. Chicken”
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do people still use the word ‘chicken’. Or did you warp from the 1970′s, earlier in the day
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keep logan in please. he will be ok.
Excellent job by Boone Logan. Nice.
Okay. Time for the bats to wake up.
Boone Logan is bringing tears to my eyes.
What’s gotten into Logan. Errrr. Is this the same guy.
# vinny-b (Brett Gardner will never see the bench again) June 16th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
“All quiet SJ44. Figured. Chicken”
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do people still use the word ‘chicken’. Or did you warp from the 1970’s, earlier in the day
?
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Don’t be such a square.
What Moyer is doing to us is embarrassing.
Looks like Boone Logan was the right call and Mark Melancon has his work cut out for him while Jonathon Albaladejo might have to settle for being the Mariano Rivera of AAA.
Will Albie ever get another shot?
“I thought he’d gotten himself under control to some extent – limiting his “badness” to one inning, but then coming back and doing okay”
Doreen-
He’s generally been better about that this season. Tonight was much more like what we saw last season.
Even the mechanical problems he had were very similar to the ones he had last year.
He just couldn’t pull it together tonight.
Logan has good stuff, he’s just inconsistent with hi control. He doesn’t usually get hit around, so when he throws more strikes he’s going to be good. I’m surprised you guys rip on him so much, he really hasn’t been that bad this year.
alright!
great work by logan
now lets get some runs and then we can bring in the big guns (robertson, joba, mo)
Offense has to wake up else they are just as much at fault.
# The Other Phil (Don’t feed the trolls) June 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
When you can play pepper of Da Monstah, you’d have a thousand doubles too.
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That’s certainly true. How many of these Yankee fly outs would have been off the Monster in Fenway?
Of course, the Phils would have had a bunch as well.
# vinny-b (Brett Gardner will never see the bench again) June 16th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
“All quiet SJ44. Figured. Chicken”
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do people still use the word ‘chicken’. Or did you warp from the 1970’s, earlier in the day
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Don’t be such a square.
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You’re Yella
“# Carl June 16th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Boone Logan is bringing tears to my eyes.”
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I must say I’m greatly surprised, I was ripping him a new one the other day, because I didn’t trust him to throw strikes but he seems to be sharp tonight.
i wish they would stop calling lebron “king James”. He has never won anything, and mails it in with the game on the line (in the playoffs). He doesnt make the players around him better either.
Kobe is so far above Lebron it isnt even a question.
C’mon Gardner needs to get on base here to start off
@Phil. If u don’t know what grinding means than you should really stay out of it n let the grown ups do the arguing take ir Yankee blinders off son
# Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) June 16th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
# The Other Phil (Don’t feed the trolls) June 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
When you can play pepper of Da Monstah, you’d have a thousand doubles too.
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That’s certainly true. How many of these Yankee fly outs would have been off the Monster in Fenway?
Of course, the Phils would have had a bunch as well.
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Actually, after looking at it, none of the Yankee fly outs would have been Monster doubles. They have all been to center or right.
The Phillies probably would have had 3 fly outs become Monster doubles in Fenway.
this is stunning that they cannot adjust to moyers 1 pitch.
i was hoping gardner would bunt his way on.
It’s really shocking that they aren’t hitting Moyer.
His fastball is 81-82 and his slider is 77. His slowest pitch tonight has been 70 mph, which is barely 10 mph off of his fastball.
Even with good location, he isn’t really changing speeds and his pitches don’t move a lot. It’s really perplexing.
Matt,
Ok lets just say he sucked that night. I wouldn’t call him out on his competitiveness though. He did have alot of heart.
Good memory on his post-game though. Actually what he said was that he wanted the ball “TOMORROW!”
Which was funny because “tomorrow” was going to be an off day.
figures, Jeter finally manages to get a ball out of the infield and it’s a hanging liner
If the Yankees lose this game so what. Some people act like this is the end of the world. You don’t win Championships in June.
I should just take my own advice. No more troll food for you bridge jumpers!
This is simply shameful that we can’t start a rally against Jamie Moyer, just putrid.
Logan has come in and stopped the bleeding and we aren’t even chipping away.
Sometimes it’s just not your night. What can you say?
And, again, “on any given night, any pitcher can be good enough to beat any other team,” and that includes Moyer, who is still capable of pitching well on any given night.
If the Yankees lose this game so what. Some people act like this is the end of the world. You don’t win Championships in June.
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No, but you want to see a little more off a guy who has a 82 mph fastball and a similar slider.
Moyer just pitches too slow. The Yankees can’t hold back long enough and are in front of everything.
If Moyer can compete with an 81 mph fastball and all below average offspeed pitches, then Burnett has no excuse for tonight.
Moyer dominates Yanks lineup. good job.
Who cares if the Red Sox “grind it out” better than the Yankees? I’ll take a first place team that mails it in over a third place team that grinds any day.
looked outside from overhead.
It also helps when the umpire expands the zone like he just did on that Swisher “strike out”.
Damn I just want to smash something right now.
Ace
I’m sorry I don’t think anyone is being a bling homer here. We just don’t get this idea that the Red Sox are God like. I do think the Sox are good but you give more credit to them than the Yankees and that is a fact. If not then prove it.
Some people don’t seem to think about the fact that Moyer is still very effective. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t be around. Velocity means little if you don’t hit your spots (hello Kyle Farnsworth). Moyer still hits his spots and is able to change speeds (from mid-80s to lower 70s) and keep hitters off balance.
I’d say that a pitcher like Moyer is harder to hit than a fireballer. Batters don’t see guys that throw like this very often, since there aren’t many in the game. Harder to adjust to.
Good pitching will always beat good hitting. Moyer isn’t flashy but he’s hitting his spots and getting the calls.
Yankees pitchers have not gotten calls like Moyer just got on Swisher and Teixeira tonight.
The umpire just stole a huge walk from the Yankees with some of their power hitters coming up. Their home runs have been solo shots, but may not have been if they had guys standing at first base with a legitimate strike zone.
people, please stop referencing speed when saying we can hit moyer.
it’s not about speed. it’s about movement and location.
anyways, it’s just one game in a looooooooooooong season.
we’re gonna be fine
Tonights game? Doesn’t equal grind n fight.
so TB is now losing by as many runs as the yankees – in fact, they have scored 0. What does that say about their “heart” or whatever
Jamie Moyer one of the worst pitchers in baseball
this is hilarious
Swisher is the only one making him throw pitches, everyone else takes1-4 then out.
Moyer is at 85 after 6, mind you AJ left after 3.1 innings with 87.
sorry-being a homer here.
The best thing about tonight is Pettitte goes tomorrow.
This Moyer domination of the Yankee lineup is disturbing! I can’t fathom it at all.
Oh great Lt. Gaudin is in.
@Phil. You must have forgot the effective Moyer vs those Sox I say stink n have no grind
this is where it gets ugly. hopefully not, but probably.
Logan had 33 pitches, he seriously could have pitched to 1 more guy.
where did that come from?
They should have left in Logan to face Howard. I know he isn’t used to pitching a ton of innings, but he had thrown just 33 pitches. I think one more batter wouldn’t have taxed him that much.
And as I’m typing, Gaudin manages to K Howard. I guess the point is irrelevant now.
Moyer has below average movement at best on his pitches and his location has not been perfect.
The Yankees have gotten themselves out on pitches out of the zone, and when they haven’t they’ve missed meatballs and flown out to the warning track.
Regardless of the results, his performance has not been that impressive tonight. He’s benefited from a huge strike zone as well on pitches that were clearly balls.
There are certain types of fans who are weak.
They lose control of their emotions when the team is not performing well.
People have to realize that they come here to dump their negative feelings on other people and this helps them feel some sort of release and therefore comfort.
When you communicate with them in any way, shape or form, positive or negative, they feel like you are listening to them because it is obvious you heard them dumping and therefore responded.
If you don’t want people’s negative tripe to get to you…ignore it and let them suffer in their own misery.
Take no responsibility for it by indulging it.
Pretend they’re not here.
@Jeremy who said they r god like? I said they grinders as u saw by those 2 games at the stadium. Where do u get god like from that?
WE GOT OUR WISH GAUDIN next Joba, I see runs, thank you NY!
Go Phitins
The difference between a guy who is focused and one who is just laying it in there is very apparent.
In some of those blowout games Gaudin was just throwing lazy pitches over the plate and letting them hit it to try to avoid walking guys and giving free baserunners. Tonight he is bearing down and making quality pitches to the corners.
# Bret the Hitman June 16th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
There are certain types of fans who are weak.
Take no responsibility for it by indulging it.
Pretend they’re not here.
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Sage advice sir.
I wish we still had Phil Kiekro
Phitins,
Hey, how did that Halladay prediction work out for you?
Tipping my cap to Moyer will make me puke
# Matt June 16th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
The difference between a guy who is focused and one who is just laying it in there is very apparent.
In some of those blowout games Gaudin was just throwing lazy pitches over the plate and letting them hit it to try to avoid walking guys and giving free baserunners. Tonight he is bearing down and making quality pitches to the corners.
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I guess some might say he was a “grinder”.
Personally, I think of him as a hoagie. Maybe a sub.
wow 1-2 was a strike for Moyer, opposite side mirror image of strike 3 on swisher. what a joke.
That slider would have been a strike if Jamie Moyer threw it. Who could have possibly guessed he’d call that a ball?
Don’t know what’s worse. Matt trying to sound like an insider or SJ44. Tough.
Ace
Th reason why I say this is because some Yankee fans act like the Red Sox are god like. Some just won’t let 2004 go and it seems like you are in that camp. You started all of this by replying to a poster who refuted the claim that the Sox are better than the Yankees. So to me it seems like you think the Red Sox can do no wrong.
“# Butch June 16th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Tipping my cap to Moyer will make me puke”
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Especially with the way he was hammered in his last start, then comes into Yankee Stadium and has a 2 hitter, unreal.
Howya like dem Gaudins?
Phil might be the only guy in the world who thinks AJ grinded tonight. Yankee blinders much??
Bret the Hitman June 16th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
There are certain types of fans who are weak.
They lose control of their emotions when the team is not performing well.
People have to realize that they come here to dump their negative feelings on other people and this helps them feel some sort of release and therefore comfort.
When you communicate with them in any way, shape or form, positive or negative, they feel like you are listening to them because it is obvious you heard them dumping and therefore responded.
If you don’t want people’s negative tripe to get to you…ignore it and let them suffer in their own misery.
Take no responsibility for it by indulging it.
Pretend they’re not here.
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Yes. Exactly. I know it’s hard but you just have to ignore them.
On a side note, I find it kind of funny that the fans that are losing control of their emotions are the same ones complaining that AJ has no control of his.
The top 4 in the Yankees order are 0-13 with 0 BB’s. Poor performance tonight to chip away when the pen stopped further damage.
(wonders to himself how many scratches are on that record)
Make that 0-10 with 0 walks
# Ace June 16th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Phil might be the only guy in the world who thinks AJ grinded tonight. Yankee blinders much??
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See, I try to listen to The Hitman (best there is, best there was…) but I just can’t help but respond to trollmeister here.
When exactly did I say that AJ “grinded”? Can you please quote it for me? I’d really like to see it.
Thanks Deuce.
way to start the rally, Tex.
they are out tonight.
that’s it.
It’s a 2-0 count, and Alex swings at a pitch at his head? Pressing much?
he finally calls ball 4
Well that was surprising. Figured the ump was going to call that. Been calling everything else.
Yankees first base runner
The Yankees hitters should be embarrassed by their performance tonight as well.
Its one thing to lose but to just go down meekly, where we have to say its just one of those nights is very disappointing to see.
A little fight would be nice off of a garbage pitcher.
YES people begin to find excuses for Yankees hitters?
LOL
STOP TRYING TO HIT HRS!
damn
lol
This game is over.
I think the technical term for that would be ‘crap’.
This team is great. However, this team can throw up stinkers with the best of ‘em.
I feel like I could no-hit the yankees. I don’t think I can throw higher than 50mph.
lol @ this offense
Wouldn’t be shocked if Kendrick, a guy we’ve never seen before, shuts us down tomorrow either.
Luckily, Andy will show more guile than AJ did. But it might not be enough with this offense
If you get shut down by a quality pitcher you tip your cap.
This is Jamie Moyer.
But when you continue to try to pull him and also refuse to stay in the zone, what do you expect? This guy makes a living by throwing garbage just off the plate, and if you refuse to make him get it over the plate then you aren’t going to hit him now matter how terrible his stuff is .
AT least I can take comfort in knowing a guy is going tomorrow who will give a better account
Mr. Andy Eugene Pettitte, always a gamer, unlike Burnett.
I think the biggest issue here is that the Yankees have not made Moyer have to pitch from the stretch.
If Jeter, Granderson, and Gardner could have reached base, threatened to steal with Moyer throwing those 75 mph changeups, how much would that effect the ABs of Tex, Arod, Swisher, and Cano?
2 hits vs a guy the Sux knocked out in 1 inn? Awesome!!
Tex -2 pitches and out
Alex- 5 pitches-walks
Cano -2 pitches out takes Alex with him
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9 pitch inning in 7th Moyer after 7 innings= 94 pitches
People seem to think Moyer is a quality pitcher because he’s managed to pitch until he’s 47, but he hasn’t had a real quality season in years. He’s a mediocre pitcher right now, who the Yankees have made look like an all star.
Abreu doesn’t make that play.
It is just funny the “fans” that are on this messageboard that are calling the Yankee players out for not fighting. I am sure the Yankees decided oh well we are just going to give this game away. I mean it has nothing to do with the fact some guys in the middle of the lineup have been struggling and Moyer is making his pitches as well as getting a generous strikezone. It is what it is. Nothing to cry and wring your hands about. Plus there are two innings left to play.
one day that stupid plexiglass in the OF wall will get someone hurt. it was understandable in the old place when people sat behind there but makes no sense just for the bullpen
Consider this: Logan and Gaudin have allowed just one baserunner through 4 innings. And that was an intentional walk. So, really, they have shut down the might Philly offense that was torching AJ Burnett.
Gaudin and Logan.
AJ was unbelievably bad.
And make that 4.1 shut down innings.
TB is losing 4-0 Go Braves!
keep it to 4 and give the late rally a chance.
Yankees pretty much asleep tonight. Burnett didn’t help with a bad outing.
Just have to go and win the series tomorrow.
I know it’s just a spring training game, but look at this box score…
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....b_nyamlb_1
yanks just have trouble with Moyer…
No big deal…
# Joba Farnsworth (Gardner > Crawford) June 16th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
one day that stupid plexiglass in the OF wall will get someone hurt. it was understandable in the old place when people sat behind there but makes no sense just for the bullpen
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Be glad there’s not some ridiculous metal fence that could really get someone hurt.
Not hard to figure out. 1 walk all game that was to Alex. The ump was giving Moyer a generous zone. Moyer got the generous lead. Against the Sox when you don’t get a wide zone and low strikes it forces him over the middle of the plate and up. That’s where he gets hammered. Yankees just couldn’t get anything together. Having said all that. If they can hold them here I have a feeling the Yankees will still make this game interesting with two innings left.
Let’s hear it for AJ
This is the way the Phillies play right now, a big inning and then duds for the rest of the game. The bullpen has been unbelievable, especially considering the guys they’ve been throwing out there, but the offense has just completely spit the bit tonight.
# Butch June 16th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Let’s hear it for AJ
tip cap?
LOL
nice bullpen
forget aj’s 6 runs. it wouldnt have mattered with 2 hits off moyer .
I’m loving this bullpen tonight.
They at least are giving the team an outside chance of pulling this out.
Howya like dem Gaudins?
AJ was awful, yet Gaudin and Logan look like world beaters.
The best offense can’t hit Jamie Moyer.
What the hell is going on lol.
Gaudin and Logan are lights out today while Burnett stinks. Proving it’s not the Phillies busting out of a slump, just that Burnett sucks.
Haiku-man June 16th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
TB is losing 4-0 Go Braves!
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just hope it stays that way after the 9th.
AJ may have felt bad when he came out but he has to feel worse watching Logan and Gaudin be so effective.
Gaudin a nice little outing. Same for Logan. They need these guys with Mitre out and who knows about Aceves.
Come on Yanks show some late fight. Battle!
# Giambi’sgoldenthong June 16th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
It is just funny the “fans” that are on this messageboard that are calling the Yankee players out for not fighting. I am sure the Yankees decided oh well we are just going to give this game away. I mean it has nothing to do with the fact some guys in the middle of the lineup have been struggling and Moyer is making his pitches as well as getting a generous strikezone. It is what it is. Nothing to cry and wring your hands about. Plus there are two innings left to play.
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Stop making sense. We’ve already established that the Yankees are not grinders, hoagies, heros or subs.
Jeez. Stop acting like this game is over. It’s only 4 runs.
Bret the Hitman – spot on. We should all practice that.
As much as I hate that the Yankees are losing tonight, you have to give Moyer credit. He hasn’t won 264 games without some kind of clue as to how to get ML hitters out. Plus he is doing it at 47 years of age. Now that that is said, time to get this game back in the next 2 innings.
yeah, go for complete game!
Old Man Moyer pitching a 2 hit CG would be pretty embarrassing for this offense.
base runners please. forget the homers for now.
jeez
well that isnt a good start to the 8th.
Nice job by the pen tonight. Giving the Yankees some life.
Why does it seem like Granderson is always in 0-2 counts?
Moyer going the distance. That’s some real grind.
Kay still doesn’t understand why Moyer can get Yanks batters out.
Did he just call Victorino Vizciano?
did kay just call victorino vizcaino?
78-81 mph with no movement
this is a joke
a base hit?
3 hits wooooooooo
There we go Russo.
Need a HR to make this a game.
Granderson is an automatic late inning out vs a lefty.
kay you idiot. vizcaino was a 2nd baseman.
Vizcaino lol. Kay should pay more attention to the game instead of tweeting or whatever it is.
This has been a pretty lifeless performance. I really didn’t think Moyer would shut them down. I thought Kendrick would be the mediocore pitcher who gets the job done against them, not Moyer.
doesnt help that balls in the dirt are called strikes,
Come on Brett, just find a way to get on base and keep it going.
Yawn, pitches 3 inches off the plate still being called strikes for Moyer.
Love when a guy with mediocre stuff gets bailed out by mediocre umpiring.
Thank you NYY Afrom the Phitins we were right, AJ would cough it and stink it up,thank you thank you.
Moyer will complete .the game and slap the taste out of your mouths.
THANK YOU YANKEES!
Go Phitins
moyer will not face jeter if gardy gets on
guess that was irrelevant.
I wish Gardner would level his swing. More line drives and he’d hit .400 (based on his current average). Way too many balls in the air.
Lots of popups and weak hacks against the old man. Ugly game for both the O and Burnett.
moyer is not pitching the 9th
This is plain embarrassing. I usually stay positive but this is a pathetic performance. 3 hits off 47 year old Jamie Moyer? Ridiculous. Absolutely Pathetic.
The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Thank you NYY Afrom the Phitins we were right, AJ would cough it and stink it up,thank you thank you.
Moyer will complete .the game and slap the taste out of your mouths.
THANK YOU YANKEES!
Go Phitins
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No problem. Enjoy 3rd place and watching us in the postseason!
You are down 4 runs with a 3-1 count, as the 9 hitter with no power.
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU SWING?
Yankees continue to bail Moyer out in hitters’ counts by swinging at pitchers’ pitches.
Say what you want about Moyer, but the reason he’s pitching so well is more that the hitters are either swinging at garbage or missing pitches well out over the plate.
Well chalk it up to didn’t expect to beat Doc. Should have beat Moyer.
The yanks let a garbage junk balling old man beat them. What a joke they better crush Kendrick tommorow.
The Yankees usually save these kind of pitiful offensive showings for the road games normally.
Just poor to watch how they have not mounted any sort of rally against Moyer tonight.
Dead at bats, despite the bullpen’s efforts in keeping the game in reach.
I’m sure we’ll see plenty here blame the umps tonight for this.
i admit when i’m wrong. I said last week moyer will 1 hit us.
Where is that guy Happ?
Yankees never made him throw a lot of pitches, he’ll complete the game.
The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Thank you NYY Afrom the Phitins we were right, AJ would cough it and stink it up,thank you thank you.
Moyer will complete .the game and slap the taste out of your mouths.
THANK YOU YANKEES!
Go Phitins
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newsflash, despite slapping around Burnett your offense is shut down by scrubs like Gaudin and Logan – your offense is still a joke
Ace June 16th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Well chalk it up to didn’t expect to beat Doc. Should have beat Moyer.
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I understand if they lost to Moyer. There was alot of emotion in beating Doc last night and Moyer is still a savvy veteran and the Yanks sometimes struggle with these light throwers. But to be 3 hit? That is beyonddd pathetic! I could see if they just couldn’t get that big hit but they can’t even get a hit hardly.
ac1 June 16th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
moyer is not pitching the 9th
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if i were charlie i wouldn’t mess with a good thing
When your bullpen shuts them down for 6 innings in a row and you can’t even make a game with this kind of score competitive, that’s a pretty terrible job by the offense.
Yes, Burnett was terrible, but hard to win any games in the AL when you score only 2 runs. They may have lost this game if Burnett threw a decent game even the way they have swung the bats.
Moyer’s not coming out for the 9th.
“# XLJ June 16th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
The yanks let a garbage junk balling old man beat them. What a joke they better crush Kendrick tommorow.”
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The Yankees must have been confused as to which one was Halladay and which one was Moyer, because I would have expected this performance tonight against Halladay.
Instead they set us up with a welcomed beating of Halladay and then a lame performance against Jamie Moyer.
# Tyler June 16th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Ace June 16th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Well chalk it up to didn’t expect to beat Doc. Should have beat Moyer.
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I understand if they lost to Moyer. There was alot of emotion in beating Doc last night and Moyer is still a savvy veteran and the Yanks sometimes struggle with these light throwers. But to be 3 hit? That is beyonddd pathetic! I could see if they just couldn’t get that big hit but they can’t even get a hit hardly.
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LOL, You would have thought we were facing Cliff Lee tonight when it comes to a lefty shutting us down.
What’s sad is that they may actually hit Lidge better than Moyer.
Happ is DL’d, Brett.
Gaudin n Logan saving their jobs.
I am happy to see Gaudin put a good strech together. With Mitre hurt, he is the only guy who can go 3+ innings.
We are the Phitins the mighty mighty Phitins!!
Philly gonna party tonight!!
c e l e b r a t i o n time in Philly, Moyer took it to the big bad Yankees!!
Go Phitins
You can just never trust this offense and it may be our downfall in October. Last year, A-Rod bailed us out in every big spot and snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. If he isin’t superhuman again, it’s going to be very tough for us to win.
It’s also going to be tough if Burnett starts any game because if he’s bad, he has no ability to grind through it as we saw today.
now this is what I meant by grinding it out. U chip away while ur pen holds them hitless. Too bad the O didn’t follow the pens lead.
Shhhh…. don’t tell Brandon but Tabata hit his first big league HR tonight.
“Gaudin n Logan saving their jobs.”
Especially Logan. Game could have totally gotten away in the 4th if not for his work.
Moyer >>>>>>> Halladay if an alien came to earth two days ago and you explained to him how baseball works. Insanity.
Gaudin and Logan no hit the Phillies for 5.2 IP and completely kept them in this game. A huge missed opportunity against a guy like Jamie Moyer to steal one tonight. How often do you get that kind of performance from the last 2 guys in your pen?
The bullpen rocked tonight. Win or lose that’s a great, great thing.
Logan and Gaudin performed so well, Girardi didn’t have to dig deep into the pen and there are plenty of arms for tomorrow.
If Gaudin can keep this up, and he may have only been in a slump, so it’s reasonable to think he can, that helps immensely going forward because right now no one knows when Aceves can be counted on again.
Let’s go Yankees!!!!
I really enjoy listening to several of the posters on this blog explain how to successfully beat Jamie Moyer and refer to him as a mediocre pitcher. If he was so mediocre he would have been out of MLB years ago as GM’s don’t exactly seek out aging soft-tossers. The fact is, velocity may be sexy, but it is not synonymous with success or else Kyle Farnsworth would be in the HOF.
Shows you how much the Phillies suck – Gaudin and Logan held them scoreless for 6 innings.
Doesn’t say a lot about Burnett.
“# Don June 16th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
You can just never trust this offense and it may be our downfall in October. Last year, A-Rod bailed us out in every big spot and snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. If he isin’t superhuman again, it’s going to be very tough for us to win.
It’s also going to be tough if Burnett starts any game because if he’s bad, he has no ability to grind through it as we saw today.”
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Not to mention Matsui going insane in the World Series.
Because lets be honest Tex and Cano were invisible in the playoffs for the most part, Tex had the HR in the Minnesota series but not much else.
I’ll worry about that down the road though.
Great job by Logan and Gaudin.
I think Brad Lidge is having some bad memories.
AJ Arod and Teixeira the best gifts the Yankees could give Philly tonight THANK YOU.
Go Phitins
Remember when someone was asking who would be out of the playoff rotation if we got Lee?
Answer is abundantly clear – Burnett.
Heck, if Javy has a strong 2nd half, that might be the case this year as well.
The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
We are the Phitins the mighty mighty Phitins!!
Philly gonna party tonight!!
c e l e b r a t i o n time in Philly, Moyer took it to the big bad Yankees!!
Go Phitins
Now this is funny. Partying because your team won one game in June?
Shhhh…. don’t tell Brandon but Tabata hit his first big league HR tonight.
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I’ll bet his 40+ y/o wife/mom is really happy.
Jamie Moyer is a mediocre pitcher. Look at his numbers since about 2003. He’s had maybe 1 or 2 above average seasons out of the last 6-7 years. Otherwise he’s been below average to average at best, and in the NL numbers like that mean he was probably in fact rather below average.
“# LGY June 16th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Great job by Logan and Gaudin.”
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Absolutely,
too bad we can’t say the same about Burnett and the offense.
Even lidge can’t blow this. Right?
The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
AJ Arod and Teixeira the best gifts the Yankees could give Philly tonight THANK YOU.
Go Phitins
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You’re welcome! Get YES Network for October so you’ll have something to watch while the Phillies sit at home.
that pitch is a strike to Jeter.
ball 4
All night with the calls. Sheesh. When that happens, what can you do? Really, seriously, what can you do if you think you’re taking a ball and its’ called a strike?
Really that was strike 3? Really?
ARE YOU SERIOUS. NO WAY THAT WAS A STRIKE!
Home plate umpire has completely changed the complexion of this game on multiple occasions with some beyond terrible calls. If some of these guys draw walks in front of a bunch of these hits and home runs it’s a totally different game right now.
Is Philly still as run down and crime ridden as I remember it?
shameful display by the yankee bats. We were far too antsy because AJ put us in a hole and we were facing someone tossing mid 70s stuff. We tried to do too much by swinging at the fences, because we were facing a soft tosser. That would explain the no baserunners no basehits just two homers. Judging by what the sox did to him, the fact Moyer went 6 innings without so much as a baserunner and has managed 8innings- is a disgrace. What was also a disgrace was AJ not covering first on that play earlier when Tex tried to help him, AJ’s head was not in the game. Very frustrating display. Completely unacceptable showing at home against Moyer.
Of course ESPN doesn’t show a replay of that called strike.
That Takasahi kid on the Mets must be licking his chops… he owned us last month and he is basically the same type of pitcher as Moyer. The type of slider-speed lefty who can’t break glass with his FB… aka the guys we never hit.
That call on Jeter was a prime example of why Jamie Moyer got away with his garbage stuff tonight.
When you are getting calls on pitches nowhere close, hitters have to start chasing your garbage pitches just off the plate, and then a guy who is afraid to throw strikes can actually shut you down because you can’t work him anymore thanks to the useless home plate umpire.
Beaten by a 47 year old soft tosser. Just awesome.
swisher with the f bomb
Tip those caps to a 50 year old scrub.
“I wish Gardner would level his swing. More line drives and he’d hit .400 (based on his current average). Way too many balls in the air.”
one bad game…relax
Now Yankees who was right.? I said Wed would be a toss up. You think you’re without holes but you can be beaten. I love a good old fashioned butt kicking in baseball.
come on Tex get on. I wanna see Alex hit a hr.
Yankees completely punted this game. Thankfully Atlanta decided to show up against TB.
Jesus Matt. Put a cork in it already. The strike zone. Get over it.
The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Now Yankees who was right.? I said Wed would be a toss up. You think you’re without holes but you can be beaten. I love a good old fashioned butt kicking in baseball.
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I’m sure you enjoyed last night then!
Can’t wait till the winter when we get Lee. Going to be nice not to have to look at box of chocolates Burnett behind CC every night and finally have a consistent pitcher there.
Matt,
Even mediocre to bad pitchers have a good to great game. The hitters are slumping and said pitcher throws his best. A perfect storm. The red sox last week had a complete game 2 hit shutout by Justin Masterson. The kid who is pitching to a 5 era this year. Dallas Braden who has a 4.5 career era and is 9 games below .500 threw a perfect game against the Rays. These things happen. It would be one thing if the Yanks had poor offensive stats across the board. They don’t though, just one game.
come on Alex
The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Now Yankees who was right.? I said Wed would be a toss up. You think you’re without holes but you can be beaten. I love a good old fashioned butt kicking in baseball.
then you must have loved the game last night along with game 6 of the world series you moron
Gardners hitting 300 n people want him to change his swing??? Lol
Is that the same Jamie Moyer the Red Sox rocked for 9 runs in 3 innings not less than 6 days ago?
Thought so. Sox 3 out from first place! Here we come Yankee fans!!!!!
I don’t know – almost every team in the playoffs/WS ends up counting on one, two or three guys and many, many times it’s NOT the guys you think are going to be counted on. Eckstein, anyone?
This is one game, and now people are backtracking to say the Yankees were lucky to win the WS last season.
The Yankees gave away a lot of at bats early, but it’s hard to say they’ve done that late.
They’ve had many at bats changed by some terrible strike calls against their hitters. The difference between counts like 3-1 and 2-2 is enormous when you are trailing in a game, and they have had at least 2 baserunners taken away from them in the last 3 innings on 3-2 pitches nowhere close.
Who knows what happens if the pitcher has to sweat a little more with guys on base, but you never get to put the pressure on because of the inconsistent calls.
# RalphieD (OPPC) June 16th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
“I wish Gardner would level his swing. More line drives and he’d hit .400 (based on his current average). Way too many balls in the air.”
one bad game…relax
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Love the guy, don’t get me wrong. I don’t want Crawford, I want BG to keep the job. But his swing has an uppercut to it that doesn’t benefit his style of play. He’s not a power hitter and it would be great if his swing had more level to it. Drive to the gaps and double/triple a team to death.
Unlike some folks here, I’m not calling him a scrub or thinking he should be DFA. Just an observation on his swing.
Boss Ton June 16th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Is that the same Jamie Moyer the Red Sox rocked for 9 runs in 3 innings not less than 6 days ago?
Thought so. Sox 3 out from first place! Here we come Yankee fans!!!!!
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LMAO. Phitins and you would get along well, third place trolls crowing on a first place team’s website.
Tip your cap to 50 year old Moyer
The same guy who gave up 9 runs in Fenway with a 5+ ERA in the NL.
Pitched a great game against the $200 million dollar lineup… should be real prond of themselves.
go alex
Again, who knows what happens this inning if Jeter rightfully draws that walk. They are clearly seeing the ball well off of Lidge and are making him work hard for these outs.
of course that bs call on jeter hurts
HR ties it.
PLEASE GOD
Let’s go Robbie!
lidge should give a-rod the barry bonds treatment from now on
come on cano
The fact that Gaudin/Logan did so well should irritate people even more… this game was totally winnable. Even after Bustnett the human pinball machine put us in a 6-0 hole.
They sent Jaime Moyer to the mound. Jaime Moyer. Anyone see what he has done this year, most notably, in his last start?
No excuse whatsoever not to chip away. Bad teams might mail it in after the starter implodes. Teams what character do not.
Haha, nice alex
Well a home run would have tied it if Jeter was standing on first base to lead off this inning as he should have been.
man if jeter walks.
Gardner has a .97 GB/FB ratio, and in this measure line drives are counted as fly balls.
American League average is .79, so Gardner is well above the league average in getting the ball on the ground.
Brad Lidge is terrible.
$200 million lineup? I didn’t know Sabathia, Pettitte, Burnett, and Rivera all pitched for free.
man if jeter had the pitch called a ball and walked. we could have something going here
how would a HR tie it? It’d be 6-5?
Rick,
What merit is there in your statement that they mailed it in? The result was poor so the Yanks didn’t want to win? That is just poor logic. I guess what they are doing now in the 9th is for show?
Let’s go Jorge!
HIP HIP!
i bet they walk posada to lgy granderson with romero
Tying run at the plate, that’s all you can ask for in this type a game. Just a chance.
Completely different inning if not for that BS call on Jeter. You can’t say it would have turned out exactly the same way or even ended up mattering in the end, but the way they hit Lidge it wouldn’t have surprised me if that walk sparked a rally as well.
NOW a HR will tie it.
# Billy D June 16th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Gardner has a .97 GB/FB ratio, and in this measure line drives are counted as fly balls.
American League average is .79, so Gardner is well above the league average in getting the ball on the ground.
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Don’t give me your fancy schmancy stats!
come on posada
These two-out rallies in the 9th are always a killer to sit through…especially when it falls short!
My math is off.
HR ties it now
It seems like they always do this, bring the tying run to the plate.
Wow that was right over the plate. Would be nice if they took advantage of his terrible zone now.
So if we’re looking to tie it on 2-1, a flat high slider on the outer half might be a good pitch to hook into the rf seats, no?
i knew he was gonna k on that pitch
Why Posada Why?
Went after a bad pitch.
Lidge was pounding the K-zone with that slider.
awell.
posada loves missing those breaking balls.
Show some spunk with 2 outs in the 9th.
Took a high flat 2-1 slider over the plate and then swung at a garbage pitch that was probably ball 3 to strike himself out. Great at bat.
Caught Guessing. Ah well, that’s the way Jorge approaches at bats
no
I hate hearing about these milestone factoids every time a player does such-and-such against the Yankees.
I would have loved to see a better last at bat. He took 3 strikes (one arguable) and swung at the only ball, which was in the dirt. Oh well. We’ll get em’ tomorrow.
way to grind.
They waste Lidge on a 4 run game?
TB is losing 6-2 top of 9th
Well you can’t win them all. But A.J. Burnett was really bad and the offense should have done a little better against Moyer.
Hope Andy pitches a great game and try to win the series.
Posada has the worst ABs of anyone on the team. He has slipped below Cano this year.
Simply unacceptable to chase like that
Posada takes 4 close pitches than swings at the only sure-fire pitch out of the zone? bonehead.
Sox 3 out and they start worst outfield in the game.
# terpbomber June 16th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I hate hearing about these milestone factoids every time a player does such-and-such against the Yankees.
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A misleading milestone, since Moyer is probably the oldest player to defeat any team. But give ESPN an opportunity to mention a milestone against the Yankees and they’ll always take it.
And we face a guy tomorrow we’ve never seen. Awesome! that should go over well.
Would be fitting if the first series the Phils have won in like 6 weeks is against us at home.
Did anyone on this planet think Posada would get anything other than a down and in slider with 2 strikes? Everyone except Posada that is.
It’s amazing how he consistently gets beaten in tough spots by the exact same pitch. Whether batting lefty or righty, he is a sucker for that down in and slider any time there are runners on base. How has he not made an adjustment after so many years?
“Sox 3 out and they start worst outfield in the game.”
Because they don’t let winnable games like this slip away. They squeeze every thing out of their roster. Far cry from us. We get 2 hit by Jaime Moyer lol
Guys, chill. The Phillies won 2 out of 3 against us last year at home, and how did their season turn out?
PHITINS, PHITINS, PHITINS, love AJ the self imploding pitcher!!
tomorrow we lose, Andy is too good, but you conceited punks won’t get the sweep!
Go Phitins
Take 2/3 tomorrow and it will be another successful series contrary to what the cry babies are making it seem like on here.
Yea TB lost!
I will admit that Burnett’s antics are getting old like. I’m leaning in the get Cliff Lee in the offseason direction. Burnett needs to be moved down in the rotation.
I’m not convinced this boom or bust offense will fair any better against Kendrick tomorrow than they did against Moyer tonight. Kendrick is another strike throwing soft tosser. He is a righty and he sucks, but so did Moyer. We couldn’t hit Moyer. Why should tomorrow be any different against an equally bad pitcher?
Just never know what you are going to get from this offense day to day. In a way, they are akin to AJ Burnett as a pitcher. Unpredictability one day to the next.
# The Philly Phitins June 16th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
PHITINS, PHITINS, PHITINS, love AJ the self imploding pitcher!!
tomorrow we lose, Andy is too good, but you conceited punks won’t get the sweep!
Go Phitins
lol glad u feel good about gettin 1 out of 3..call urself a fan?
# Jeremy June 16th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
I will admit that Burnett’s antics are getting old like. I’m leaning in the get Cliff Lee in the offseason direction. Burnett needs to be moved down in the rotation.
Lee is like 1000 times better than AJ.
tomorrow we lose, Andy is too good, but you conceited punks won’t get the sweep!
Andy can be as good as ever. If this same offense shows up, we’ll likely lose anyway.
Posada has always been susceptible to a slider inside. He should not have swung in that situation. Lidge is not a guy that has the guts to throw a fastball inside with two strikes.
Jeter is officially in a deep slump – hope he snaps out of it soon.
Hollinger
Yeah those Sox really don’t let any games get away…NOT !
Check out the Sox record against some of the worse teams in baseball and you will see that it’s not that good. Also they couldn’t take a series against the Indians. Please get a clue before opening your mouth idiot !
Joba,
Going to be awesome to have Lee next year and bump AJ down to 5 where he can suck it won’t matter.
AJ can only dream as being as good as Lee is.
RS
You keep talkin smack about postseason, as if it’s a sure thing for you in June. We still have a second half punk!
As long as we can count on AJ to get distracted and nervous, we all have a chance sucker!
Go Phitins
Rays lost, which is all that matters.
Burnett has eclipsed Joba as the most despised current Yankee.
At least Joba has a cool name.
# Al June 16th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
tomorrow we lose, Andy is too good, but you conceited punks won’t get the sweep!
Andy can be as good as ever. If this same offense shows up, we’ll likely lose anyway.
Today they put up a “fight” in the bottom of 9th so fans will stick to the end of tomorrow’s game.
LOL
AJ absolutely stunk up the house tonight. The offense was a joke tonight as well. Moyer shutting them down made them look like the Phillies, they should be embarrassed to have let Jamie (what kind of moron at his age still calls himself a child’s name?) go so deep and keep them from doing anything?
They should have creamed Moyer like AJ was getting creamed. Pitiful outing and a waste of time watching this poor effort.
Jeter is looking terrible at the plate. A Rod should go back on the magic shakes that Ortiz is on. Posada is looking worse and worse behind the plate.
Well baseball is unpredictable. I don’t know why some of you believe some of these things. It’s almost like half the people on this blog have never watch baseabll before.
Philly Phitins,
You can return to this board when the Phillies are no longer trailing the pathetic Mets.
Thank you!
The Phillies aren’t even going to make it to the post season with they way they are playing this year. Unless they get back on the juice they are looking at third place in the East.
Jeter and Arod have not played as well as they could. Johnson is injured. Tex has been in a slump the whole season. That’s our 1 through 4. Although we are in a good position now, they need to get it together soon.
Blame this all on AJ.
# Matt June 16th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Logan has good stuff, he’s just inconsistent with hi control. He doesn’t usually get hit around, so when he throws more strikes he’s going to be good. I’m surprised you guys rip on him so much, he really hasn’t been that bad this year.
============================================================== W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HB BB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
SEASON 5.06 13 0 0 0 0 0 10.2 13 6 6 1 0 7 6 .310 1.88 1.36
CAREER 5 5 5.73 177 0 0 0 1 5 138.1 171 97 88 18 5 65 108 .303 1.71 1.29
The Philly Phitins
The Phillies are not looking that great. And the Yankees are in first place so they do have a great chance of making the postseason.
Jorge has few holes but down and in with tight low sliders is his poor zone. Lidge executed the pitch well. Still would have loved to see the 9th inning unfold if Jeter got the walk he deserved.
Burnett is sometimes awful and you gotta giver Moyer credit !
Remember the discussion a few days ago about the worst contract? Most people said A-Rod, some said Posada, some said Jeter’s next one, etc.
Burnett’s trumps all of them. He is, what, the 6th highest paid pitcher in baseball? What a joke. At least A-Rod and Posada are HOFers. Burnett is a .500 pitcher who has never been trustworthy. He loses games when he sucks. The other guys don’t.
Well. The best thing you can do with a game like tonite to forget it as quickly as possible.
team failure. sometimes you just don’t have it.
Positives were the BP and the fact that TB lost.
Tomorrow is another day and a chance to still take the series.
No real biggie.
Phillies suck… that is why tonight’s loss was even worse. How do we lose to Jaime Moyer?
Sigh… should have expected this from AJ Bustnett.
You keep saying let Javier go for Lee. Stupid let AJ go for Lee, move Javier to # 5, you arrogant clowns.
AJ is over his head on this team, he can’t handle the pressure, haven’t you figured that out?
Go Phitins
AJ won game 2 of the WS.
Yawn.
Philly trolls aren’t even fun to argue with. Maybe he should disguise himself as a Rays troll to get at least some credibility.
The Burnett contract might be the worse. But the Yankees had to do it for more pitching. But it will only get worse than better over time. Which is why it’s imperative to get more pitching in the offseason.
“You keep saying let Javier go for Lee. Stupid let AJ go for Lee, move Javier to # 5, you arrogant clowns.
AJ is over his head on this team, he can’t handle the pressure, haven’t you figured that out?”
What GM in his right mind is going to take Burnett’s awful contract? One of the 5 worst contract’s in baseball. At least guys like A-Rod, Wells, etc. are producing.
Even Ruben Amaro wouldn’t be dumb enough to take that contract.
We’re stuck with “box of chocolates” Burnett till age 36. Ouch. In a perfect world, we’d ditch him and keep Javy. Not possible though… just have to live with his inconsistency and keep him the hell away from the postseason. Yeah, game 2, blah blah anyone can have a good day, just ask Jaime Moyer.
No, the worst contract right now is Texiera’s. Those at bats of his are just yugly. Four runs down and he’s staggering around out there, totally out of control, trying for the four run HR. This should be your team leader. You can count on the fingers of one hand the times he’s impacted games offensively since the post season. His attitude seems that there is nothing wrong, as according to him he had a good May. Long contract and totally surprising as to his attitude.
Javy > Burnett
Yankees had a good second half last year, other teams can do well in the 2nd half too.
This is AJ’s 3 straight game loss, sure you’re going to the WS. You’re 2nd half isn’t certain with games like tonight either.
YOU MADE OUR DAY NY.
Oh by the way you SHARE 1st place, with a younger better team, that you hoped would lose, so you wouldn’t go to 2nd place!!
Go Phitins!!
Matt bad mouthed Moyer a lot tonight, but he wishes he had him on his Little League team.
Stoneburner pitched 7 innings of Shutout ball tonite
No the worse contract is the Burnett contract right now because the guy is nothing more than a .500 pitcher. Tex on the other hand could be having a bad year but could improve the next year. Burnett can’t improve at all.
RS
Last year’s WS is over, WHAT HAS AJ DONE FOR YOU LATELY. He’s a joke that will cost you games THIS YEAR.
Go Phitins
The Yankees are the best second half team in baseball. To imply that the Phillies are going to go on a tear in the second half and the Yankees will struggle is beyond hilarious.
Oh, and Burnett wasn’t just good in Game 2 of the WS. He was great against the Twins and against the Angels in game 2 of the ALCS. The two games he pitched poorly in the Yankees were leading the series 3-1. Hardly heartbreaking.
Also philly troll the Yankees have a better shot than the Phillies right now period !
Chase Utley is terrible. I wouldn’t trade a bag of balls for him.
Like Pete used to say…
Philly Phitin, go stand in traffic you chump.
Hard game to watch. Some positives were:
Cano (as usual)
Posada (homerun)
Logan and Gaudin (wow for both of them)
TB lost
Serious question about A J. How is it that someone can be lights out for 3-4 innings then have no control at all? I know tonight he didn’t have it at all, but what causes this to happen?
Tex is an elite offensive player
Burnett is a .500 pitcher
Tex earned his contract. He is overpaid, but he is a top player. Same can’t be said for Burnett. His contract is worse.
Jeremy
I CAN’T TELL, AJ LOOKED BAAAAAD!
Go Phitins
Mr Jackson
That better than hoping another team loses so you can stay in 1st place that you SHARE.
Go Phitins
Wow Phitins, don’t evah use my name in your vitriol.
This person used my name Jeremy.
Damon enjoy 27….think 28
I knew that wasn’t you. Which is why I ignored it. This Philly troll is really pathetic.
I don’t really take a whole lot away from tonights game. Moyer basically served as a knuckleball pitcher would when they baffle a lineup on a given night, kept the lineup off balance the whole game and they never adjusted…it happens, as soon as he got out of the game they strung together a mini rally, it was just too late.
AJ was terrible but as we know, you get that sometimes with him. He has great starts, he has good starts, and he has total clunkers every now and then. The same mechanics that allow that great curveball and movement also create consistency issues. The bullpen was great again which is really good news and Tampa lost so you lose no ground. Its a throw away game, get uhm tomorrow and you still win the series and its a good matchup with Pettite throwing.
Blake-
Do yourself a favor and don’t bother trying to inject sanity into this place tonite.
Someone left the Asylum door wide open.
I’ll see you in the AM.
Sorry Damon I though it was funny!
Yankees tomorrow isn’t guaranteed, Andy is due for a loss some time. I SAY HE WINS, BUT NOTHING CERTAIN. Yankees!!
Go Phitins
MTU,
Will do.
Muts got decent chance to take another subway series.
Jeremy
Thanks I’ve nevah called a person a name on this blog I refuse to go there.
“Muts got decent chance to take another subway series.”
Unfortunately, you’re right. That Japanese pitcher is going to be hell for us. Any off-speed lefty kills us. Actually, Santana fits that description as well! lol
I could see us dropping another series. Team’s offense fluctuates from game to game
Blake
Logan and Gaudin came through for us, . Andy the contender for a CY Young gets the ball tomorrow, take that away.
Good night.
Why is phoolish phillie even on here. You have a third place team that has won all of 7 of your last 22. Give me a break. When was the last time you guys even smelled first place?? What’s it like to be 3 games over .500?? Loser.
Our AJ is your Hamels and Moyer and Blanton. Just give it a rest.
Good night Yankee people!
Burnett’s contract is hardly the Yanks worst. How about 7 more yrs of arod at 32m, please, and I love Arod. Tex earns 23m per yr in a position that’s easily filled and he still has 7 yrs left. Burnett is who he is, sometimes good, sometimes poor, anybody remember the World Series game 2. If AJ loses we go back to Philly down 2-0 and we’re in trouble. AJ at 18m with 4 yrs is overpaid but believe it or not , not by a lot. He’ll be ok.
12-11 vs LHP.
“12-11 vs LHP.”
and another 0-3, K performance for Grandy.
Burnett is a streaky pitcher but without him we wouldn’t have won number 27. He came up huge in Game 2 after we lost game 1 in the world series. That was the first home game we lost in the postseason last year.
Burnett is more of a good number 3 type pitcher. He will look even better next year with Sabathia and Lee as the 1 and 2.
BryanHoch Jorge Posada says he doesn’t think he’ll be able to catch tomorrow, needing a day after catching nine innings tonight.
2 DH candidates for tomorrow (Jorge and Alex) and only one position. What’s a manager to do?
Tex frustrates me the most right now! i’d flip Cano and get Tex out of the three hole, he doesnt deserve to be there this year.
secondly, burnett has been bad more often than good this year, even javi is more dependable at this point..
back to tex, i mean really.. what is going on with this guy?? I am a huge fan of his, but theres a point when you have to try something different.. just how many runners has he stranded this year?
i cant believe we got owned by a 47 year old well past his prime.. we made moyer look like a cy young candidate but own doc.. baffling!
thanks for letting me vent
Jeter is hardly in a “deep slump”. That’s just stupid talk. Tonight alone he should have been walked in the 9th and drilled a liner to RF that Werth made a nice play on.
There’s 2 at bats right there that could have easily gone the other way.
That said, tonight was a joke. Letting Moyer win with that slop is an embarrassment and I hope they come out and make up for it tomorrow.
Texeira really doesn’t feel like he’s the player we signed on for last year. He feels like a complementary part. Not a middle of the order threat. While the defense is spectacular, the offensive struggles are grating on me. He seems to disappear into games. Something your 3rd place hitter cannot do.
He feels, to me, more like a 5th place hitter.
Cano or Arod should be hitting 3rd and the other 4th.
AJ isn’t going anywhere, he has a limited NTC contract, and can block 10 clubs per year.
You’re stuck with the phool.
Go Phitins
“Texeira really doesn’t feel like he’s the player we signed on for last year. He feels like a complementary part.”
Sadly, he isin’t even hitting like a complimentary part. He is hitting like a bench player.
“2 DH candidates for tomorrow (Jorge and Alex) and only one position. What’s a manager to do?”
Over the next few years, the number of DHs could become a bigger problem.
pat
Sit Arod the hell down, his groin is hurting, easy done!
Phitins-
Why weren’t you here last night when the Phils got killed?
Burnett is who he is, sometimes good, sometimes poor, anybody remember the World Series game 2. If AJ loses we go back to Philly down 2-0 and we’re in trouble. AJ at 18m with 4 yrs is overpaid but believe it or not , not by a lot. He’ll be ok.
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Totally agree. If Burnett’s contract is the worst thing this club has done and we are “stuck” with him, I’m totally fine with that. He will probably finish up the year with close to 15 wins and a 4 ERA. Is that great? no but he will eat up innings and be a pretty good starter. Yes he’s overpaid but there are alot worse than him. Plus, if he gets into a groove in September and October, he could be huge.
“How about 7 more yrs of arod at 32m, please, and I love Arod. Tex earns 23m per yr in a position that’s easily filled and he still has 7 yrs left.”
A little exageration. After this year-
Alex- 7 years at an average of $24.75M per
Tex- 6 years at an average of $22.5M per
The ninth inning was a micro sample of Tex, Alex and Robbie approaches to the at bats. Tex’s swings were from the heels which considering the team was four runs down were pathetic. Alex and Cano had professional at bats. Professional is simple. You take a man’s money, you do the man a job. Tex is not doing that at this time. To solve a problem first you have to realize that there is a problem.
A team with the best offense in baseball should have destroyed Moyer. The Red Sox nearly put him into retirement last week.
It’s a disgrace to lose the way they did to that guy. They were not even competitive.
I get it that Swisher wanted that outside pitch to be called a ball, but he had seen it be called a strike enough times tonight to stop taking it and walking to first only to be called back.
Texeira seemed to have an express ground out route to SS all night.
Moyer was throwing meatballs out there and they looked surprised.
I’m hoping they come out tomorrow night focused and ready to mash.
I understand blaming AJ for what he did on the mound tonight, but six runs against Moyer should not be insurmountable for this offense.
Ugly game.
Give credit to Logan & Gaudin, they did a great job holding the line tonight. Too bad AJ can’t be more consistent. Not only did he not give the team a chance to win, but, he fell asleep when he should have been covering first. Maybe AJ & CC need a little spring training recap on defense. I don’t care if your Cy Young, you have to do your job. You could see the disgust on Girardi’s face, I don’t blame him.
Raul Ibanez hitting about .230 since last June. Rollins seems to have Jose Reyes disease. Chase ain’t Utley. Werth is overly concerned with homonym for his last name. The phillies offense sucks. Phinished.
Bo,
Tex is hurting the team. There is no doubt in my mind that batting this guy 3rd has cost the team runs this season.
You have to trust Girardi since he must know that demoting Tex is going to send him into a tizzy or something and he believes he’s going to break out big time soon.
Still, it’s painful to watch the man try to hit. Yeah, he hit a HR last night, but the game was already decided and he’s still been awful most of the year.
I hope this slump, and it’s a slump, doesn’t carry into July.
He needs to show up and show up soon to reward his manager’s faith in him.
Why isn’t there a postgame thread? And why has this trolling been allowed?
TYLER
Iwas here, go back and look at the threads l!
Go Phitins!
Joe
Yet they beat you with a 47 yr old pitcher,smack!!
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phil thrill
Just like a Yankees, whiny and can’t take the truth.
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The Other Phil (Don’t feed the trolls) June 16th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
# terpbomber June 16th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I hate hearing about these milestone factoids every time a player does such-and-such against the Yankees.
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A misleading milestone, since Moyer is probably the oldest player to defeat any team. But give ESPN an opportunity to mention a milestone against the Yankees and they’ll always take it.
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Look. A second shooter on the grassy knoll.
See ya tomorrow Yankees! You better hope Andy brings his A game too!
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