Game 71: Yankees at Diamondbacks
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jun 22, 2010 
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YANKEES (43-27)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Brett Gardner LF
Andy Pettitte LHP
LHP Andy Pettitte (8-2, 2.47)
Pettitte vs.Diamondbacks
DIAMONDBACKS (28-43)
Kelly Johnson 2B
Cole Gillespie LF
Stephen Drew SS
Justin Upton RF
Chris Young CF
Adam LaRoche 1B
Mark Reynolds 3B
Chris Snyder C
Dan Haren RHP
RHP Dan Haren (7-5, 4.71)
Haren vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 9:40 p.m. / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Wally Bell, 1B James Hoye, 2B Laz Diaz, 3B John Hirschbeck
WEATHER: The dome is closed, but it’s still a little warm in here. Phoenix is just a hot place to be, but I like it.
CANO STAT OF THE DAY: Robinson Cano got his 100th hit in his 274th at-bats last night. Only three players have reached 100 hits in fewer at-bats with the Yankees since 1973: Paul O’Neill in 1994 (264 ABs), Dave Winfield in 1984 (266) and Derek Jeter in 1999 (267). That’s an awfully good list.
PLACE IN HISTORY: Andy Pettitte has 2,494 innings pitched as Yankee and needs three innings to tie Lefty Gomez for fourth place on the Yankees all-time list. Only Whitey Ford, Red Ruffing and Mel Stottlemyre have pitched more.
TRIPLE THREAT: When Nick Swisher tripled last night, it gave the Yankees 19 triples for the season, the most in the American League and the third-most in the majors. Brett Gardner has four triples, Swisher has a career-high three triples and Francisco Cervelli also has three, the most by a Yankees catcher since Joe Girardi had four in 1998. Nine different Yankees have at least one triple this season: Gardner, Cervelli, Swisher, Granderson, Rodriguez, Cano, Jeter, Miranda and Winn).
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: Disregard those pregame notes about Derek Jeter not hitting and Alex Rodriguez not hitting home runs. It’s a 2-0 Yankees lead on a Jeter single and a Rodriguez two-run homer.
UPDATE, 10:22 p.m.: Before the game, Joe Girardi said the Yankees had to be careful pitching to Dan Haren, who came into the game hitting .425. His two-out, two-run single has tied the game.
UPDATE, 10:25 p.m.: Dan Haren now has his second six-game hitting streak of the season.
UPDATE, 10:35 p.m.: Alex Rodriguez looks like just as good a hitter as Dan Haren. His RBI single has put the Yankees back in front, 3-2. With two outs, the Yankees got hits from Swisher and Teixeira to set up Rodriguez’s base hit.
UPDATE, 11:00 p.m.: This guy Andy Pettitte, he might have a future in this game. He’s retired the past seven Diamondbacks. And now he has a base hit.
UPDATE, 11:32 p.m.: Pettitte is through six with only the Haren single doing any damage.
UPDATE, 11:43 p.m.: We haven’t seen a good replay here in the press box, but I really thought Gardner was safe on that stolen base attempt. Maybe I was wrong. Doesn’t matter. The inning’s over, still a 3-2 Yankees lead.
UPDATE, 11:58 p.m.: A lot of Yankees fans in the house, and they’re getting loud here in the eighth inning. Jeter, Swisher and Teixeira have started the inning with hits, building the lead to 4-2 still with no outs.
UPDATE, 12:02 a.m.: RBI single by Cano. Bases still loaded. Still no outs. Yankees ahead 5-2.
UPDATE, 12:10 a.m.: Welcome to the big league Colin Curtis. He just smoked the ball for a two-run double and his first big league hit.
UPDATE, 12:15 p.m.: How good has Andy Pettitte been this season? He allowed two runs through seven innings and his ERA actually went up from 2.47 to 2.48.
Let’s go Yankees!!!
5-2 Yankees
Lets go Offense!!!
Carl,
I am going to be piggy…I’ll take offense and defense and pitching
Jete!
good start by Jeter, Carl
Swish swung for a HR there.
they’d better win tonight; I mean, losing series to Dback?
Tex swung for a HR there.
Everyone is trying to hit a home run
A-Rod!!!!!!
A-rod
A-Rod answers my call!
AROD swung for a HR there.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An A-Bomb from A-Rod
Our long national nightmare is over!!!!
Alex Rodriguez with a 2 run jack!
Theres a homer from Arod.
A-rod swung for a HR there
Yes, way to start the game!!!
Haren has been a HR machine this year.
A-Rod stance is wider. Hes also standing closer to the plate.
lol, lucky thing Alex called Yuri (h.t. to fake Phitin).
That was the 20th HR surrendered by Haren this season.
Haren is throwing a lot of 90 MPH fastballs down the middle this year.
Michael Kay doesn’t get it. People who live out there year round don’t consider 102 degrees so awful. We were there when it was 110 and while I was warm, it is certainly better than 90′s here and humidity
# SAS June 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Michael Kay doesn’t get it. People who live out there year round don’t consider 102 degrees so awful. We were there when it was 110 and while I was warm, it is certainly better than 90’s here and humidity
It’s normal for us. I’ve been living in Vegas for 20 years. It is what it is. Just drink a lot of water and you’re good.
Heath Bell in for a 4 out save against TB
Carl-
I don’t know how you do it. I was in Vegas for 3 days for NYE and felt horribly dehydrated. And it wasn’t cause of alcohol
In regards to my earlier post, Andy will be going 8 strong today.
1-2-3 for Andy.
Nice.
You can always count on Andy to show up even when he doesn’t have his best.
Carl, you’re a Vegas guy too, huh?
It really hasn’t been that hot this year. I don’t know what Phoenix is like right now, but it’s been just high 90s for most of June. We’ve rarely made it over 100 at all.
# Erica in NY June 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Carl-
I don’t know how you do it. I was in Vegas for 3 days for NYE and felt horribly dehydrated. And it wasn’t cause of alcohol
I guess its because I’ve been here so long. When I go east for the Winter I can’t go outside lol.
# Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) June 22nd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Carl, you’re a Vegas guy too, huh?
It really hasn’t been that hot this year. I don’t know what Phoenix is like right now, but it’s been just high 90s for most of June. We’ve rarely made it over 100 at all.
Yeah its been about 90-95 but its going to be 103 tomorrow
It’s nice to be able to go out at 6:00 in the morning and have 60 degree temperatures to work in. Most summers it’s at least 80 by 6am.
Granderson looks frustrated.
5 for his last 36?
That’ll do it.
Gardner needs to get on base so we can get the pitcher out of the way for the next inning.
This Arizona broadcast is just horrible. Hotel Haren lol?
How did Sux come back?
i heard their offense sucks, no reliable bullpen, and their ace is down.
Kim Jones looks pretty in blue. Its a good color for her
that’s Lefty GOMEZ, Chad.
Tampa just lost
I would have loved to see her jump in the pool. Just saying.
4-out save for Heath Bell against TB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
of course the arizona commentary is awful. they keep living off 2001.
Atta boy Andy
Andy strikes again with one of the best moves in the majors.
Justin trying to do a little too much for his brother and the Rays.
FAIL.
**of course the arizona commentary is awful. they keep living off 2001.**
It’s pretty sad. Listening to Grace talk about his playing days is beyond brutal.
colorado takes the lead.
boston is always a concern.
tampa will fall off hard real soon.
I truly hope after that Kim Jones report that is the end of people on this board making excuses and blaming other people for AJ being AJ.
Kim just laid out exactly what many people on this board have been saying about him since he became a Yankee.
was it just me or did the ump call reynolds safe before he got to the bag?
ac1 June 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 pm
of course the arizona commentary is awful. they keep living off 2001.
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I bet this is one of the first times you miss Michael Kay.
Great throw by Gardner. What a weird slide. Effective but weird.
i actually dont mind michael kay when i have to listen to away games on comcast way too often, or fox, or espn. they all suck.
The Tigers are making things interesting. 11-5 Mets bases loaded 2 outs. The Mets were once up 10-0
whoa whoa whoa. is it me or is boston playing a road game?
Didn’t Verlander start that Mutts game for DET?
I like what Singleton had to say about AJ. AJ’s old enough to modify his approach to give him more success. I think he wanted to listen to Doc and occasionally took his advice but he hasn’t committed to being a pitcher instead of a thrower.
ac1-
I agree. While I don’t think Kay is a great announcer by any means, he is great compared to some of the other announcers of these other teams. The worst in my opinion are the entire ESPN crew, the entire Fox crew, and Hawk Harrelson.
why do our pitchers have so much trouble after getting 2 out?
Laura-
Yeah. He got knocked out without an out in the third. Let up 5 runs. 11-6 now. Niese couldn’t get through 5 and Nieve is having trouble too.
I agree. While I don’t think Kay is a great announcer by any means, he is great compared to some of the other announcers of these other teams. The worst in my opinion are the entire ESPN crew, the entire Fox crew, and Hawk Harrelson.
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Agreed. the Tampa announcers are bad too.
ac1-
Yeah the play by play guys voice is like nails on a chalkboard too me. Plus, everytime I listen to them they are complaining about how Tampa gets shafted on every call.
Erica,
Are you having any problems with slowness on the internet? You are in LI and I am in Westchester so maybe it is not the same.
This guy is annoying me by running up Andy’s pitch count.
Honestly, i like our announcers, the mlb channel guys, the o’s arent too bad and i actually like jerry remy.
I still say you go after him. He’s still a pitcher.
I think Andy has better stuff than Johan …is that crazy?
all right, let the sucker chase
gotta be kidding me
really?
damn
oh my, that’s bad pitch.
Pettitte doesn’t seem to have an out-pitch this inning.
That pitch was way outside, according to Gameday. Didn’t look that far outside on the replay.
Still, there goes the 2 run lead.
2 outs and no one on— again
Walk the #8 hitter and give up a tying hit on an 0-2 pitch to a pitcher.
Just awful, awful pitching.
pretty terrible 0-2 pitch.
Dumb pitch. Make the guy chance something.
why not inside pitch, since he already saw 2 outside pitches?
On this, Andy sucks.
all this with two outs AGAIN?!?!?!
why can we not close out an inning?
WTH was Tex doing basically playing 2B?
All 12 D’backs runs in this series have been scored after 2 outs. Not good.
An 0-2 count against a good hitting pitcher…
Thankfully aj isn’t on the mound and Andy is so we can hopefully get out of this inning with a chanctow in the game
So is it standard protocol to tip your cap to the opposing pitcher when he gets a hit, too?
If they were smart, the would put Andy on base and keep him tired.
It’s standard protocol to tip your waiter and your exotic dancer.
Geez, Dan Haren is hitting .425. Can the Yanks acquire him as a DH?
For the last three weeks the Yankees have been unable to put away #8 and #9 hitters and finish out innings.
Hard to win games when you are fail consistently in those areas.
Haren has his good stuff tonight.
Fantastic.
It appears the Mets and Tigers are playing some beer league softball tonight.
Swisher has been right on the ball all series. Everything is hit hard up to CF.
Can A-Rod do it again???
Fake SJ has to be one of the strangest people on this board.
He or she posts here every single night, yet is so much of a coward that he hides behind SJ’s name.
Seriously if you are going to post here so much just create your own handle.
I’m cool with that instead
A-Rod is on his way back folks
huh seems like the dbacks have 2-out troubles too
hips feeling better….getting timing back.
A-Rod
huh seems like the dbacks have 2-out troubles too
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Dbacks 2 out trouble have come against our 2-3-4 hitters.
Looking forward to a crazy hot streak from Arod. It’s coming….
dear god they are showing gonzalez’s hit again?
i cannot believe i have to sit through them talking about that hit again and again. so pathetic im embarrassed to be watching them.
That was a nice play!
# ac1 June 22nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
i cannot believe i have to sit through them talking about that hit again and again. so pathetic im embarrassed to be watching them.
I know man I know.
hey f-ers in the booth. there is a game going on. there have been many games since nov 2001.
I turned the game off…ENOUGH about 2001. Jesus, we all know what happened, stop reminding us.
Did Arod ever opt out of his Scores contract?
Anybody see Betances’ third start tonight? 6 IP 1 hit, 1 walk, no runs, 8 K’s. His stuff must absolutely be electric with great control. I tried to withhold my excitement with im as he’s disappointed me before but it’s hard not to get excited about this.
did grace just say “nice hit gonzo”???
OMG! they are showing clips of the 9th inning before each half inning. 9 years ago guys…. 9 years ago.
Update on the nephew…..
Headed to another hospital to be seen by a specialist.
If he needs surgery, it will be tonight.
Two small fractures in his cheekbone.
Differing opinions whether surgery is needed.
The specialist will decide tonight after he sees him and would be performing the surgery if neeeded.
I have D’backs coverage. If they rehash Game 7 of 2001 World Series one more time I might just fly down there, an dump a large cactus on each member in the AZ broadcast booth.
That is all.
“OMG! they are showing clips of the 9th inning before each half inning. 9 years ago guys…. 9 years ago.”
Doesn’t it make you want to slit your throat?
Man we need like an extra few feet on some of those deep flys.
“OMG! they are showing clips of the 9th inning before each half inning. 9 years ago guys…. 9 years ago.”
Doesn’t it make you want to slit your throat?
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No, but it makes me want to slit theirs.
It is the only championship the Dbacks have won. It is their home network. Theyre playing their 2001 opponent. What’s less reasonable is YES network showing highlights of it yesterday.
“No, but it makes me want to slit theirs.”
Well, yeah – but that would be murder. I wouldn’t want to be responsible for any fatherless children.
Jeez. SJ. hope everything works out.
i’m excited to see him get up to pittsburgh. him, mccutcheon, tabata, jones. Pittsburgh might be exciting. they might be my second team
It is the only championship the Dbacks have won. It is their home network. Theyre playing their 2001 opponent. What’s less reasonable is YES network showing highlights of it yesterday.
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I understand that… but they talked about it. they made their point.
SJ44
Please tell me yer kiddin.
Sorry to hear about your nephew, SJ44. I hope things work out.
GOLD GLOVE. GREAT PLAY!
Can they just give Cano his Golden Glove now or do we have to wait until the season is over?
Theres that man again CANO
Sorry if i thought that was not the real SJ44.
Does anyone make baseball look as easy as Cano does?
“There’s a certain amount of uncertainty.”
So there is, Kenny, so there is.
Thoughts & prayers.
I always miss Kenny coming out with things like that when I have the other teams coverage.
He will be ok.
Bummed he won’t play in the Futures Game but, it could have been much worse.
Unfortunately, it’s the hazzards of the profession.
Especially in A Ball where command is scarce with a lot of these young pitchers.
The kid that hit Tony tonight hit 3 other guys tonight.
A lot of carnage for one game.
I am guessing y’all don’t have the YES feed
(Y’all in honor of Andy Pettitte)
SJ-
Will he still make the trip to Anaheim. I’m sure being there is an experience in itself. Hope all goes well with him. Bummer that the day he’s selected to that game this news happens.
“I am guessing y’all don’t have the YES feed”
You guessed right! It’s an AWAY game so MLB Extra Innings goes with the home team’s broadcast. Do you want to hear something strange? Last week, on my cable lineup, the YES channel appeared out of nowhere. I was ecstatic. Until I turned to it during a game and was greeted by an edition of Yankeeography. Apparently, there’s a YES feed for NY residents and one for us out of town unlucky stiffs. That hurt like hell.
ignoring 2001 for a second, mark grace spends the entire time talking about himself.
uh what exactly was he swinging at?
I have the AZ feed, Erica. Those cactuses (cacti?) are looking more and more inviting as the game progresses.
Laura – Dan Haren might just have to become my new Pretend Boyfriend! June 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
“I am guessing y’all don’t have the YES feed”
You guessed right! It’s an AWAY game so MLB Extra Innings goes with the home team’s broadcast. Do you want to hear something strange? Last week, on my cable lineup, the YES channel appeared out of nowhere. I was ecstatic. Until I turned to it during a game and was greeted by an edition of Yankeeography. Apparently, there’s a YES feed for NY residents and one for us out of town unlucky stiffs. That hurt like hell.
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How strange. Its really too bad you can’t see YES all of the time. Its a good station. I caught the end of the Thurman Munson Yankeeography Sunday night and found myself crying like a baby on the couch. (Mind you, I was born after his tragic death)
“ignoring 2001 for a second, mark grace spends the entire time talking about himself.”
And here I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
love that arizona is ripping on houston… dont they have around the same record?
Angel – In an Empire State of Mind June 22nd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
I have the AZ feed, Erica. Those cactuses (cacti?) are looking more and more inviting as the game progresses.
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LOL.
Lets organize a Lohud rally to attack the AZ broadcasters with cactuses/cacti
(someone should look up the proper plural)
“How strange. Its really too bad you can’t see YES all of the time. Its a good station. I caught the end of the Thurman Munson Yankeeography Sunday night and found myself crying like a baby on the couch. (Mind you, I was born after his tragic death)”
It appears to be the regular channel….except during games. I get the Pre-Game and Post Game shows, just not the main event.
I consulted my Scrabble dictionary
Cactuses AND Cacti are both proper plurals
Hey Swish its ok to take a walk.
hey grace. enough about the dh. or they can just put all 30 teams together and the top 8 make the playoffs.
Tyler,
Not sure yet. His agent and I told the Pirates tonight they should send him out there.
It’s TBD at this point.
“Apparently, there’s a YES feed for NY residents and one for us out of town unlucky stiffs. That hurt like hell.”
If you are out of Market and get YES, you get everything except for the games.
Question. If Jeter were a FA would u sign him? If he played for the Brewers.
LGY, what did Kim Jones say about AJ?
I don’t think I remember the Yankees hitting this many fly balls in one series.
Letting Haren off the hook
they are hitting a lot of balls to the warning track…
ahhhh a commercial. 2 minutes without gracie.
God what a terrible approach the Yankees have.
one thing i think kevin long can improve is this teams ‘productive’ outs. there arent any.
couldnt help but notice that boston leaves fenway, and cant put 1 run up even at coors. going to be a long road trip for them.
“God what a terrible approach the Yankees have.”
Alex’s RBI single was good. Didn’t try to do too much with it.
There are a couple of teams streaking right now. The White Sox have won 7 straight. TEX has won 9. I can’t wait for us to go on our run.
Alex’s RBI single was good. Didn’t try to do too much with it.
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The rest need to watch him then.
Haren must work on his hitting during the off season.
They have just missed hitting about six HR’s so far in this series.
Meanwhile, nobody can get Dan Haren out.
Dannie Ballgame Haren.
Babe Haren.
H-Rod.
Latos pitching very well for the padres,beat the rays tonight.
Man are the rays crashing hard.Pitching came down to earth,offense really struggling.
Routine play
wow, shifting to colorado, hawpe just got called on strike three on a ball i think would have hit the batter in the other box.
Lets get this 3rd out now.
I’ll be happy when we leave this stadium.
“# tampayank June 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
AROD goes deep tonight, he’s due
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pats self on back
please just get the 3rd out.
Haren looks like he should be selling kind veggie burritos in the parking lot at a Phish concert.
Mark McHaren.
Jose Harseco.
Big Haren.
Sammy Haren.
Haren Being Haren.
Please get the third out!!!!!
Nick… LOL
I am laughing too hard to think of more
Nice get out of it without seeing Upton
I think at this point Andy is missing pitching to the DH. He’d have a shut out if Haren wasn’t hitting.
tampayank-
Good job!
Then I vote cacti.. in fact, I vote we call the whole thing a Cacti Drive-By.
We found the DH the Yankees need to get…..Harem.
His pitching is secondary at this point.
“They have just missed hitting about six HR’s so far in this series.”
agree, lot of balls to the track that were just missed.
The great Red Sox offense is getting shut out tonight and will face Ubaldo tomorrow….
Angel-
Funny story-
When my sister was starting high school one of the supplies she needed to bring everyday was a dictionary. I forgot to buy her one ahead of time and I told her just to use the Scrabble dictionary as a temporary fix.
She yelled at me and said “What if I need to look up a word thats more than 8 letters?” LOL
I like Cacti better too
Ken Haren, Jr.
Barry Haren
Hank Haaron <— stopping there
So Alex is playing significantly injured. 80%.
cano has dropped to .360…
hahaha.
If ulbaldo pitches.
I think he left the park feeling dizzy.Saying he will make his start though.
no adjustments at all. all fly balls, all falling short. all easy outs.
These fly balls are driving me batty.
Mark Grace is pretty abnoxious to listen too. I’m watching on MLB.tv and don’t have a choice with my package on feeds. Wow he is like listening to scratches on a chalkboard. Just Terrible!
20 fly outs tonight?
Big Inning for #46 here
I know we don’t do politics on this board, but I’m hoping that some of the MLB players boycott next year’s All Star Game. If Arizona wants to operate like a Fascist state, they should do it without baseball’s help.
grace now joins a select group of announcers i would like to throw off a cliff. (hawk, tampa guys, mccarver, and anyone who works for espn).
of course boston is making a comeback.
“I know we don’t do politics on this board, but I’m hoping that some of the MLB players boycott next year’s All Star Game. If Arizona wants to operate like a Fascist state, they should do it without baseball’s help.”
Yeah, let’s not talk politics here.
I’m with you on all of those nominations ac1. I kind’ve like Hawk only when the Yankees are not playing the White Sox though. Buck is terrible too.
“Yeah, let’s not talk politics here.”
My bad. I just had to get that off of my chest.
Suchcliffe is the Micheal Jordan of bad announcers.
“I kind’ve like Hawk only when the Yankees are not playing the White Sox though. ”
I only like the Hawk when he’s on a bathroom break.
rockies win on a great play wow
COL wins.
Pretty sad that Michael Kay thought he was near the Pacific Ocean.
Red Sox lose.
I thought I jinxed the Rockies but they held on….man Lowell can’t run anymore at all.
I’m beginning to believe that the Yankees have a bet with ARI on who can hit the most fly balls.
Switched over to the Rockies-S*x game on Gameday. On a 3-0 count to Lowell, the 4th pitch was called a strike. Gameday shows it as farther inside than ball two (both about the same place. Ball one was right down the middle in the bottom of the strike zone.
Got to love these umpires.
And as Andy P does his thing the Sux lose. Yeess
“# Laura – Dan Haren can become my new Pretend Boyfriend…after he shaves the beard! June 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I know we don’t do politics on this board, but I’m hoping that some of the MLB players boycott next year’s All Star Game. If Arizona wants to operate like a Fascist state, they should do it without baseball’s help.
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errrr I won’t get into politics ….but I don’t think Sports should get involved with political issues that are completely legal(enforcing existing laws)…if MLB gets involved it starts a slippery slope that we don’t want in this country that is divided enough. Boycott’s would escalate tensions between State’s and the Federal gov’t which would be bad for America and bad for Baseball. That’s my only take on this.
Andy just knows how to get outs….if only he hadn’t grooved one 0-2 to the pitcher with the bases loaded.
“Red Sox lose.”
I want to have that tattooed on my arm.
Let’s go Yankee bats!
come on yanks.
I’m boycotting Arizona until it standardizes its time zone.
“Andy just knows how to get outs….if only he hadn’t grooved one 0-2 to the pitcher with the bases loaded.”
Funny, I remember that pitch being on the outside corner and that Haren went out and poked it past first base.
another fly out?
Can Granderson ever have a 3 hit nite?
Was Granderson’s last hit during the Mutts series?
“Funny, I remember that pitch being on the outside corner and that Haren went out and poked it past first base.”
It was on the outer half but still not a good 0-2 pitch at all.
Too bad the Sox lost.
is dback really 15 games under .500?
Cano-Posada-Granderson-Gardner are 0-for-11 right now. Pettitte is 1-for-2.
“errrr I won’t get into politics ….but I don’t think Sports should get involved with political issues that are completely legal(enforcing existing laws)…if MLB gets involved it starts a slippery slope that we don’t want in this country that is divided enough.”
I’m not saying that Selig should take the All Star Game away from ARI. I’m saying that players should make the choice to stay away on their own.
“# Nick in SF June 22nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
I’m boycotting Arizona until it standardizes its time zone.
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yeah always thought that was odd, are they on PCT during the summer?
# Carl June 22nd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Too bad the Sox lost.
I did not type this.
Grandy hasn’t impressed me too much. Some big homers. Solid D.
“is dback really 15 games under .500?”
You wouldn’t know it with how tough they are playing us.
# Nick in SF June 22nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
I’m boycotting Arizona until it standardizes its time zone.
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I rather like the fact that they refuse to continue to do daylight savings time, personally.
LOL, haha… would that have severely limited her vocabulary if she had of been limited to 8 lettered words?
Speaking personally, as long as I’m not limited to less than four letters, I’m good.
I like leaving Andy in. I don’t trust anyone other than #42 in the pen.
Nick in SF,
It is standardized. They never change to daylight savings time because they are at the western most part of Mountain time. So there is a 3 hr difference during daylight savings time. They don’t need summer til 10 o’clock in the heat of the summer.
I guess if you start with “errrr I won’t get into politics”, then it is OK to make a political statement.
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Baltimore lost!
Don’t get this move
Go Robertson for the 7th, Joba 8th, and MO 9th
We have a good bullpen – why push Andy with such a slim lead?
He was safe. Bad call.
Looked like he was safe to me
looked safe
looked safe live speed.
Wait until you see the replay. Gardner was safe.
Laz Diaz strikes again.
He should be happy CB Buckner is still employed.
It’s the only thing keeping him from being named the worst umpire in the game.
The O is broken. Homers or nothing
Alright then, I’m boycotting the rest of the country until it standardizes itself with Arizona.
I ain’t gonna not play Sun City!
looked safe. but that’s a tough call for an umpire. cant hold that against him.
Andy at 99 pitches.
Safe.
It sure looks like we got fleeced with this Granderson deal. He’s a lousy hitter, doesn’t make a lot of contact, poor avg and obp and this year power is also off, avg fielder. Detroit sold him as a salary dump making $5.5m then gave Damon $8m. Looks like they knew something.
“I ain’t gonna not play Sun City!”
I think I’m the only person that liked that song.
Yup, he was safe…
Haren is the bets hitter on the team! LOL
Yep he was safe
The Ari bill is unconstitutional and will get struck down in court
That’s like the 100th fly ball hit tonight.
Every fly ball Kay and Singleton say the same thing “he just missed a homerun”. I highly doubt we were going to see 20 homeruns tonight. It sounds so stupid.
# Michelle June 22nd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Every fly ball Kay and Singleton say the same thing “he just missed a homerun”. I highly doubt we were going to see 20 homeruns tonight. It sounds so stupid.
lol
That infield is so fast. It’s like the old artificial turf fields of the 70′s.
The ball just flies through the infield.
Robertson should be in the game. Andy worked hard early and its hot there.
Pay off Pitch cmon
“Robertson should be in the game. Andy worked hard early and its hot there.”
they have the a/c on
terrific job by andy
That’s an All Star pitcher right there folks.
And Girardi exhales.
Yeah baby Now Joba and Mo
Great warrior performance Andy!
well done Andy!!!
Great job by Andy. Hopefully the Yanks can get another run or 2 before Mr. Joba.
I live and die with Andy here. I don’t trust anybody but Mo in a high leverage situation.
Threw it by him….another great start by Andy. Now the question is to Joba or not to Joba?
7 solid innings from Pettitte.
He has really amazed this year especially at his age.
Who’s psyched for Joba in the 8th?
High five!
(and I’m a Joba believer. Sigh.)
I’m the son of a legal Mexican immigrant. And those who come into my country piss me off.
Those who sit in the northeast and don’t have to open a paper and see a list of Hispanic names (many of which are illegals) in a police report, then complain when Arizona tries to do something about it, piss me off too.
Cut the politics, please. Or I’m going to go off on you.
“And those who come into my country piss me off.”
And those who come into my country *illegally* piss me off.
Nick in SF-
Its going to be awesome fist-pumping Joba!!!
I hope he doesn’t go to Joba in the 8th inning.
I’d go Marte to pitch to Drew, then to Robertson.
That has to be the stupidest poll I’ve ever seen conducted during a game.
You know he’s going to Joba.
We need insurance runs stat.
How is it fascist to decide to enforce federal laws?
*end legal immigrant rant*
Come guys lets score Jeter….
Swish maine!
Let’s see if they walk Tex
I agree with Rob B completely.
esmerling is the weirdest name ever.
One of those long flys would be good now
walk tex
I don’t care about the results from Tex, I just want to see a good approach.
If Joba loses this game I’m embarking on a Joakim Soria binge on this blog 10x worse than all the previous ones…and they were bad so…just warning everyone.
Maybe it won’t matter if we get these 2 insurance runs here.
Tex!!!
okay a hit is good too
I love Swish batting 2nd. Nice going Tex…
I love insurance.
That really didn’t look like a great swing by Teixeira, but it did the job.
G Love,
Still trying to figure out why Joba is the EIG no matter what.
I agree with you, that will most likely be his move.
Just hard for me to understand his hardcore belief in a guy who has not pitched well this year.
Bet the Hitman-
Thank you for the warning.
Bret,
We need about 11 insurance runs to Joba proof this.
Atta boy Tex….the rest of the league better hope Tex and Arod aren’t about to get hot.
**Bret!!!!
(Sorry!)
Great start to this inning!!
Thank God the Yankees are going to score some more runs. I can’t stand it when Joba comes into a close game. You never know what you are going to get from him.
This ARI bullpen explains their record.
Too bad Park had to stink up the game yesterday. The Dbacks bullpen is a hitters bestfriend.
That redhead in the blue shirt behind the plate was just laughing and ignoring Tex’s hit.
SJ,
I think they are so terrified of messing with Joba’s mental makeup that if they went in another direction in the 8th, he would take it personally and go into a tailspin.
It’s the same rationale they used with Tex leaving him in the 3 spot when Cano deserved to be there.
Great day for Alex
crap. i wanted a homerun
Nick in SF June 22nd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
That redhead in the blue shirt behind the plate was just laughing and ignoring Tex’s hit.
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Shall we beat her with Cacti too?
Let’s go Cano!!!!
It won’t matter Bret because that’s a deal they aren’t going to make.
Yankees are beast with the bases loaded. Lets see if we can hit a grand slam.
Joba has been bad for more than a year, more like 2 years.
I don’t want to jinx Tex but he looks much better like he might be coming out of his slump. He’s in a good hitting mode now where he sees the ball and reacts instantly by hitting the ball where its thrown. He was trying to place the ball during his slump and trying to do to much with it. He seems to be in more of a reaction mode rather than overthinking like he did so much throughout his struggles.
“Still trying to figure out why Joba is the EIG no matter what.”
I don’t know why you HAVE to have an EIG. If you have a shutdown, 2nd closer type arm out there then fine but if not why not just play the matchups. Joba should just be another reliever right now IMO. The goal should be to bridge it from the starter to Mo the most effective way…not following some preset recipe.
CaYEs
Cano baby!
Awesome!! Great piece of hitting!
SJ,
Won’t stop me from binging!
Carl June 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Yankees are beast with the bases loaded. Lets see if we can hit a grand slam.
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I am happy with just passing the baton!
I think the Yankee hitters are trying to Joba proof the lead and make sure Andy gets this win.
Nice nice and nice. Lets get this one tonight. Thats for coming to the party Esmerling
BTW this is y u grind last night. The pen is terrible. U never give up.
Leave that guy in!!
Yes!! It’s a Lohud Cacti beatdown night in AZ!
You knew Cano was gonna hit a laser right there…
# Erica in NY June 23rd, 2010 at 12:00 am
Carl June 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Yankees are beast with the bases loaded. Lets see if we can hit a grand slam.
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I am happy with just passing the baton!
Same
AJ really should learn from Andy.
Nice. Are 3 runs enough for Joba?
Bret,
I think Tex is breaking out of it too. He took that pitch right up the middle this inning and didn’t try to jack it out to RF. That’s a good sign.
Real SJ would never doubt Joba.
I smell a grand slam from granderson. Can’t wait to hear Sterling call that one.
Ledger_Yankess says – Here at Chase Field, the Yankees have constructed the world’s most expensive merry-go-round. They’ve chased Vasquez. 5-2 Yanks.
That is funny
you should be able to get 2 more runs with 2 outs here
Sac fly nice
We’ll take it.
Good situational hitting there from Jorge…
Posada
I like the Sac Fly. Please let a 4 run lead be enough.
“5-2 Yankees”
There goes my prediction!
Blake,
I agree. Unless you have the ’96 version of Mariano or ’09 Hughes, I’d play the hot hand as the EIG.
Good job Jorge. Excellent situational hitting.
Granderson really needs a hit here.
Carl June 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Cano baby!
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It was a lousy approach to hitting. He was trying to hit a home run, just like the rest of them. You said so earlier in the game.
Joba time!
“# Joba Tips his Cap June 23rd, 2010 at 12:01 am
AJ really should learn from Andy.”
AJ’s idea of pitching backwards and changing speeds is putting it down the middle or in the dirt.
GLove, I HOPE that’s not the case. If Joba is that mentally fragile, then he couldn’t withstand the pressures of the EIG or future closer role (potentially) anyway.
That said, if he’s on the team, then Joba has to pitch; the Yankees can’t give having their starters go 7 or 8 innings without it eventually taking it’s toll. That kind of use may have started wearing on CC and Andy is no kid.
atta boy Granderson!
Good job, Curtis!
Wow. Where have these hitters been who are all lacing line drives up the middle?
Yes!! Keep it moving!! Boy, this Granderson is terrible. A bust!!
Line drives. Enough of the fly balls.
Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2010 at 12:03 am
“5-2 Yankees”
There goes my prediction!
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But in a really good way
Alex looked good running there. Nice sign
Joba is already warm, bring him in anyway.
Granderson base hit sighting.
On the other hand, I don’t like this pen at all – outside of Mo and Robertson (maybe). Cash desperately needs to get an arm or two………
Joba pitches the 8th inning because his name is Joba Chamberlian. It’s as simple as that. If his name was Kyle Farnsworth and was that inconsistent he wouldn’t be pitching the 8th inning.
Yay… Granderson got a hit in 5-2 game!!
Rejoice!!!!
Well, he moved the runners up.
Erica
“But in a really good way ”
So true. Thanks.
all right, we need 2 out hit .
lil CC needs his first hit/rbi right here.
Thats the first ground out by a Yankee tonight?!?!?!
That doesn’t even seem possible
Let’s go CC!!
Wow. That was really the first Yankee ground out tonight? Incredible.
I knew they were hitting a lot of balls in the air, but I didn’t realize it was THAT lop sided.
80% running right there
Wow, another cutie!
If anyone needs an exterminator in AZ, I’ve got a number for you.
“AJ’s idea of pitching backwards and changing speeds is putting it down the middle or in the dirt.”
LMAO So true
Grats lil CC!!
go colin
haha, u see.
LOL
Collin!
His 1st hit. Nice..
Wow, how awesome for that kid!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations Curtis!!!!!!
Congrats Colin Curtis!! What a moment!!
That kid has a great swing….gotta feel good for him. Double over CF’ers head for first big league hit.
I knew there was a reason why I dumped Qualls on my Fantasy team. Haha
I’m happy for the kid.
CONGRATS to Colin Curtis.
Long time comin’
Collin Curtis has a very nice stroke. He’s real compact and short to the ball.
Rich in NJ,
You are forgiven.
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Nice job by Curtis
Great way to get your first ML hit!
Curtis has a nice swing. Very nice swing.
That’s so nice that he got his 1st hit at home with his family there
I’ve watched a lot of baseball.. but I never get tired of seeing the look on a players face when they get their first major league hit.
CURTIS first 2 at bats been great
Just start treating MLB pitching like it’s the Arizona Fall League, Mr. Curtis. Congrats on your 1st big league hit, double and RBIs
I’ve always like Dan Haren
He is like a rich man’s Javy Vazquez. Eats innings, throws a bunch of pitches, doesn’t walk anyone, strikes out a ton of guys. Haren’s stuff is obviously better too and he is younger.
I just hope their offense can be a little more consistent.
allright, beat LA!
Joba time. The good Joba.
Nice inning!
Well now Joba can’t come in and give away this lead. The offense did a good job.
I am wiped. I feel good about going to sleep now.
Good night Yankee people!!!
I have seen Curtis play in ST and in a few Scranton games that I’ve watched online and I swear it seems like he has hit it hard nearly every AB that I’ve seen. Maybe it’s just coincidence but I really like his swing.
Is Javy pitching tomorrow against Dontrelle?
Notice that Phil Hughes high-fived Colin Curtis and pointed out to the bullpen and laughed?
Sad.
With that at bat, Collin Curtis now becomes the 7nth player the yankees selected in the 2006 draft to make it to the big leagues.
7 players from one draft in the show in less than 5 years. That is remarkable.
And that does not even include Zach McCallister and Dellin Betances who were also selected in the 2006 draft.
It’s amazing how this organization has changed.
YAY!!
They Joba-proofed the game!
Sad that we have to do that every game if we want a good chance of winning. Any close game is at risk in Joba’s hands. High risk.
‘Night Erica!!
That’s so nice to see.
“And that does not even include Zach McCallister and Dellin Betances who were also selected in the 2006 draft.”
Sounds like Mr. Betances had another good one today.
What is that idiot yelling?
Man, that is one obnoxious ARI fan. He must be a season ticket holder because he was there last night as well grabbing attention.
He is yelling “Rally”
Joba better not walk this guy. He has a big lead to work with.
No walks!
“What is that idiot yelling?”
He’s yelling RALLY.
3-2 slider with a 7 run lead wth…
I thought he was yelling Mommy.
Joba seems to look heavier in the face each time I see him.
Only Joba could throw a 3-2 slider with a 7 run lead. You just can’t make these things up. How pathetic…
Lead-off walk? Seriously?
Chamberlain needs time in AAA to get his head on straight. Bring up Melancon for another go-round.
Hmm.. can we include that dbacks fan in the Cacti Drive-By. He definitely needs something to shut him up.
Is there a sweat lodge nearby to take Joba to?
That guy is what you call “overserved”
What’s so funny is that no other fan is yelling it with him. LOL!
Seven run lead and Joba shakes off Posada to throw a 3-2 slider to walk the leadoff hitter.
That’s why he’s unreliable. No pitching IQ whatsoever.
I think the fan is yelling “rally”
Put Robertson in.
Rally has 3 syllables?
With that double, Colin Curtis is the 4th rookie to get his first MLB hit.
Good thing the Yanks got those exra runs….
Mr. Betances did indeed have another good day at the office.
RAB had this note on him:
21 K, 1 BB, 6 H in 18 IP since coming back …
He just needs innings to dial down his throwing mechanics.
It does look like the awful command problems he had were likely caused by his elbow problems.
I remember the first game he threw for Staten Island he was topping out 92-93.
Joba hasn’t shaved in a while.
97 98mph
97 98mph
That’s the best fastball he’s thrown all season.
Finally got him out.
“Rally has 3 syllables?”
No, two. He’s saying RAL-LY.
What’s Joba’s obsession with the slider? Why doesn’t he go out and attack hitters with that lead? It’s ridiculous……….
Chamberlain had two pitches including a checked swing that wasn’t called. He’s doing just fine.
I just don’t understand Joba. He looks good and then he looks really bad.
Just like A.J. Burnett.
# Betsy – prove it, Phil June 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am
What’s Joba’s obsession with the slider? Why doesn’t he go out and attack hitters with that lead? It’s ridiculous……….
And its one reason why he isn’t starting.
is the mound or the heat?
I think he got the message.
We got it Betsy –
Phil is “God”, Joba is “Junk”
You throw 97-98, and have a 7 run lead, put the slider in your pocket for the night and challenge guys.
Hughes did it all last year with his fastball. That’s what Joba needs to do b
Chamberlain’s best strikeout pitches are his curve and slider. It’s a 9-2 lead. How about stopping with the stupid nitpicking.
Haven’t seen this velocity from Joba in quite awhile.
That was good Joba!
A building block outing.
Lead-off walk, but he got out of it. Nice inning by Joba.
Betsy has never said Joba is junk so knock it off.
Maybe Joba is working on the slider so that he impresses the Yanks into the fact that he is is using all his pitches out of the pen and should start
I agree, GB7. I thought Joba looked fairly decent out there tonight.
There’s no way to explain Joba. This is the second time this year where his stuff looked like it did back in 2008.
Location, Velocity, downwards plane on the fastball. Tight slider thrown into the zone rather than nibbling with it.
Tonight it was all there for three outs.
It’s fine to throw slider even with a 9-2 lead. It’s not fine to throw it with a 9-2 lead and a full count. You do not walk hitters with a 7 run lead, plain and simple. Considering Joba can throw maybe 1 in 3 sliders for a strike it should not have been an option in that spot. Unfortunately, Joba is retarded.
Carl, you’re right………..and it doesn’t appear as if being in the pen has changed Joba’s outlook at all. People ask about what Phil learned in the pen and he always says that it was about realizing that the pen does not afford the opportunity to mess around (well, he didn’t say it like that, lol). Therefore, he had to go out there and just let it hang out – go after the hitters, that sort of thing. I wonder if Joba is still trying to audition as a starter.
Maybe Joba is seeing all the success and attention Phil is getting and is ready to get back into the conversation.
“We got it Betsy –
Phil is “God”, Joba is “Junk””
That about sums it up. AJ is god too.
Watching the AZ feed and I just saw the most encouraging sign from Joba this year.
He walked off the mound upset with himself. That’s a good thing.
No more canned, “the sun will rise tomorrow” quotes.
He was actually mad at himself, most likely for the leadoff walk.
Maybe he is finally kicking himself in the butt.
Nice, Joba!
Very good outing, flashed his 08 stuff.
I wouldn’t be opposed to more runs.
Million dollar question is how to get what we saw tonight out on the mound on a more regular basis?
That’s probably what Jorge said when he went out to the mound after the walk… stop with the stupid nitpitching.
A stepping stone for Joba, hopefully.
He should have gotten one of those check-swing calls too.
GLove, thanks – you’re right, I never said that. I don’t love Joba – I’m not going to pretend I do, but he’s not a bad kid at heart and he has a lot of talent. As a Yankee fan, I want him to live up to his potential………..Just because I want that, doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated at him. Joba should be treated just like any other pitcher and any other pitcher would be killed for walking hitters with a big lead.
SJ,
I don’t think it’s lost on Joba how far Phil has passed him by. Phil is answering the questions Joba used to answer.
The only questions Joba gets asked is why did you blow the lead these days.
When Joba first came up, throwing his slider would help him find his release point. You could see him throwing a few fastballs with less command and then he’d throw a slider and he would get back on top of things.
That feels like a long time ago.
It’s very odd that the Yanks last couple of wins are against Halladay, Pelfrey, Santana and Haren. But couldn’t hit terrible pitchers in the middle of that.
EC, I hope that’s not true…….because Joba’s job right now is to get outs in the pen.
Nice to enjoy a couple easy innings to close out a game!
Angel, it’s the stupid expections of everyone being perfect that gets annoying. He just missed on a strikeout on the walk. He hasn’t been great on certain nights and unhittable on others….just like Burnett and even Sabathia earlier this year. If they aren’t complaining about Teixeira, Rodriguez or Chamberlain, it’s Park or Burnett. They need to just enjoy the win and shut the Hell up.
Michelle,
They did most of their damage tonight against the AZ pen. Arod was the only one hitting Haren really.
Michelle,
It means this team can hit playoff type pitchers.
That’s a good thing.
“That feels like a long time ago.”
In baseball years, it was.
Patrick, exactly. He should use his slider – it’s one of his best pitches – but he needs to trust his FB.
Joba is so up and down; I’m glad he was basically very good tonight, but it’s hard to know what your getting with him on a regular basis.
GB7,
Sorry broski, next time I’ll ask your permission before I post anything negative
“It’s very odd that the Yanks last couple of wins are against Halladay, Pelfrey, Santana and Haren. But couldn’t hit terrible pitchers in the middle of that.”
It is odd. I’ve decided to chalk it up to them making the assumption that they were going to cream those crappy guys (which made them lose focus).
GreenBeret7 June 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am
Angel, it’s the stupid expections of everyone being perfect that gets annoying. He just missed on a strikeout on the walk. He hasn’t been great on certain nights and unhittable on others….just like Burnett and even Sabathia earlier this year. If they aren’t complaining about Teixeira, Rodriguez or Chamberlain, it’s Park or Burnett. They need to just enjoy the win and shut the Hell up.
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Best post of the night. Joba looked very good
Fans will likely never accept the basic truism that failing 7 out of every 10 times is enormous success in baseball.
lol at Mo getting mad. If you have the AZ feed you know what I’m talking about.
G. Love June 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 am
Maybe Joba is seeing all the success and attention Phil is getting and is ready to get back into the conversation.
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I think you may be on to something.
Phil is a CY candidate and while the fans are falling in love with him, they’ve fallen out of love with Joba. I’m sure he sees the respect Phil gets in the clubhouse too. I bet it’s a tangible sight and one that really forces Joba to focus. Let’s hope he finds it. It’d be nice to see Joba jump from the pen to the rotation like Hughes and become the front end starter the organization hoped he could be.
Wait. Complaining about Sabathia, Teix, A-Rod, Chamberlain, or even Burnett is the same as complaining about Park, who has stunk and done nothing for the Yankees, unlike the others?
That’s ridiculous.
I don’t think it’s a question of expecting perfection from Joba.
It’s about pitching IQ and pitching up to his talent.
With his talent, his bullpen ERA should never see 5.
7 run lead and you shake off Jorge to throw a 3-2 slider? That’s the reason why he’s not in the rotation. That kind of stubborness.
It’s hard to figure the kid out.
Off topic question…when is Mitre due back?
Francesca said recently that he thought it was good for Joba that he was no longer the hot shot, that Phil was getting all the attention…….because now he coud do his thing in relative peace and quiet. I thought it was an interesting point. If he’s going to look at Phil and be disappointed that that isn’t him, he’s got to figure out why it ISN’T him – or why it’s not both of them. Just being envious of the attention Phil is getting won’t be enough – he needs to figure out why Phil is where he is and what he can do to get back there
Took my kids to the Dentist today, and while there in the waiting room I read most of the “Strasburg” SI issue. (June 21) There is an article on page 72 called “A Light in the Darkness.” Man, it made me feel really guilty about even thinking about booing a player.
I think a lot of these overly negative types really need to read it. I suggest it for everybody. It’s an interesting read.
Joba did look very good — after he walked the leadoff hitter with a 7-run lead and Posada came out to talk to him.
I don’t think it’s a question of expecting perfection from Joba.
It’s about pitching IQ and pitching up to his talent.
With his talent, his bullpen ERA should never see 5.
7 run lead and you shake off Jorge to throw a 3-2 slider? That’s the reason why he’s not in the rotation. That kind of stubborness.
It’s hard to figure the kid out.
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I agree. But I don’t think GB7 was referring to reasonable criticisms of Joba, just the knee-jerk reactionary ones. That’s the way I read it, anyway.
Shocking how good we look when 3-4 play well
CB June 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 am
Fans will likely never accept the basic truism that failing 7 out of every 10 times is enormous success in baseball.
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The best relief pitchers will succeed about 80-85% of the time, unless you happen to be a freak of nature like Rivera. The best starters will usually ony win 50% of their starts and keep their teams in anout 10% more. That’s all I look at. With hitters, I only look at run production…..whether it’s “a team driven stat” or not. You can’t win without runs.
Mike Francesa is an idiot.
I would be very grateful if one of you guys with all your baseball knowledge could explain to me why when a pitcher is 0-2 on a player, he then throws 1 or more junk pitches and then the hitter is off the hook.
Thanks
Who was that loser in the crowd yelling. He needs to go home and watch the DVD of 2001 and relive the good times again. They ain’t a coming tonight buddy. Or tomorrow.
Blake, I don’t know, but I can’t believe I’m saying this -I miss having the guy there. He’d done a pretty nice job as the long man.
I agree. But I don’t think GB7 was referring to reasonable criticisms of Joba, just the knee-jerk reactionary ones. That’s the way I read it, anyway.
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I think GB7 is trying to be the blog sheriff. He’s probably just remembering his time back in Tombstone alongside Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday
Carl, for the most part he is, but he occasionally dredges up a pearl of wisdom, lol
Bret,
Phil isn’t just earning respect in the clubhouse. He’s earning it around the league.
He’s most likely going to be an all star.
Right now, Joba is far from that.
You can’t tell me he’s not jealous and hopefully motivated to prove he can do that and better.
He threw the ball tonight like a different pitcher. We haven’t seen a fastball like that in years.
Something clicked and I doubt it’s the just AZ heat.
I hope he goes on a run and this just wasn’t a flash of the old Joba.
SAS – just to give the people on Lohud something to discuss/post about.
That’s my theory, and I’m sticking to it
# Betsy – prove it, Phil June 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am
Carl, for the most part he is, but he occasionally dredges up a pearl of wisdom, lol
He was so much better with Dog.
Willis scares me tomorrow
“I would be very grateful if one of you guys with all your baseball knowledge could explain to me why when a pitcher is 0-2 on a player, he then throws 1 or more junk pitches and then the hitter is off the hook.”
It’s known as a waste pitch. Some pitchers don’t want to get beat 0-2 with a fastball that finds more of the plate than they intended, so the resort to breaking balls, either in the dirt or thrown outside to expand the strike zone, that the batter is unlikely to hit.
That was just a great pitch by Robertson. Great example of the best pitch in baseball being a well placed fastball.
He looks very good.
“The best relief pitchers will succeed about 80-85% of the time, unless you happen to be a freak of nature like Rivera.”
Joba has made 32 appearances, including tonight. He’s given up runs in 8 of them. That would put him at 75%. Now, I don’t know how many of those he had inherited runners and allowed them to score. Nor did I look closely enough to see how many of those he may have given up a run, but they still won.
But 75% isn’t too far off your 80-85% target.
Carl, they drove me crazy – a LOT – but Mike and the Mad Dog did have chemistry. I tune him in or tune him out depending on the topic – I try not to let him aggravate me (though I’m not always successful).
Patrick June 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am
I agree. But I don’t think GB7 was referring to reasonable criticisms of Joba, just the knee-jerk reactionary ones. That’s the way I read it, anyway.
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I think GB7 is trying to be the blog sheriff. He’s probably juist remembering his time back in Tombstone alongside Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday
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So what does that make you, given you seem to be policing him in return?
So what does that make you, given you seem to be policing him in return?
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I’m just kidding Angel….
I figured implying that GB7 is over 130 years old would have made that obvious
Angel – In An Empire State of Mind June 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 am
I don’t think it’s a question of expecting perfection from Joba.
It’s about pitching IQ and pitching up to his talent.
With his talent, his bullpen ERA should never see 5.
7 run lead and you shake off Jorge to throw a 3-2 slider? That’s the reason why he’s not in the rotation. That kind of stubborness.
It’s hard to figure the kid out.
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I agree. But I don’t think GB7 was referring to reasonable criticisms of Joba, just the knee-jerk reactionary ones. That’s the way I read it, anyway.
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Angel, it’s no different that the whining idiot that decided that every hitter that hits a long fly ball that’s caught is “swinging for the fences”. Hitting the ball hard and far is not swinging for the fences. They’re being paid to drive the ball hard. I prefer that than the constant infield nubbers from the guys that should be driving the pitches. Gardner is in a different zip code from the rest. That’s his best talent…speed.
This is annoying. Make it stop, David.
Angel….lol
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I know they are called junk pitches, but why when they have a guy on the hook. It has never made sense to me. It must be right because they all do it.
Wow, 27 pitches for Robertson; he’s having a harder time than I’d like given the big lead
Patrick, you rooting for the Red Sox or the Giants this weekend?
# Betsy – prove it, Phil June 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 am
Carl, they drove me crazy – a LOT – but Mike and the Mad Dog did have chemistry. I tune him in or tune him out depending on the topic – I try not to let him aggravate me (though I’m not always successful).
Did you hear the interview when Dog and Cash were arguing about Corey Lidle? Funny stuff.
1050 is much better than Francessa
Kay can be whiny, but he doesn’t genuflect about the Sox or Mets like Mike has a tendency to do.
Anyone hear his 2 minute praise of the Sox for moving their game back an hour to accommodate the Celtics? Saying thats why they are the best organization in the sport thats why they are so successful, because they are ahead of the curve, etc.
Yeah… like the Yankees or Mets wouldn’t do that if the Knicks were in the finals.
Ballgame!
Ok, great win!
G. Love June 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 am
Bret,
Phil isn’t just earning respect in the clubhouse. He’s earning it around the league.
He’s most likely going to be an all star.
Right now, Joba is far from that.
You can’t tell me he’s not jealous and hopefully motivated to prove he can do that and better.
He threw the ball tonight like a different pitcher. We haven’t seen a fastball like that in years.
Something clicked and I doubt it’s the just AZ heat.
I hope he goes on a run and this just wasn’t a flash of the old Joba.
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Phil’s all-star appearance most definitely can’t be ignored by Joba so you’re right about that. I think seeing Phil rise in the clubhouse on a daily basis eats away at Joba. So while the fans, the team and all of MLB has recognized and is falling for Phil, Joba is running out of equity. Joba’s gonna have to dig deep and lose the stubborn schtick.
Now more than ever, in light of Phil’s big splash, Joba Chamberlain might just be as coachable as he was in 2007 and early 2008. In the meantime, he could be regaining some of the strength and conditioning losses that happened after his shoulder tendonitis in late 2008.
Top of the rotation starter.
Phil battled to get there.
Maybe Joba sees that he’s got to put in the work and dedication to make it happen.
Great Win…must go to bed. Gnight all.
new thread.
Good game. First place without a doubt now.
Patrick June 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am
I agree. But I don’t think GB7 was referring to reasonable criticisms of Joba, just the knee-jerk reactionary ones. That’s the way I read it, anyway.
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I think GB7 is trying to be the blog sheriff. He’s probably just remembering his time back in Tombstone alongside Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday
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I’m not about to get into a battle of wits with you because you are totally unarmed. I’d rather be a 130 year old geezer than a 10 year old notty nosed brat like quite a few on here.
“He was so much better with Dog.”
Nooooooooooooooooo
nice kid!
I know you were kidding Patrick.. hence my
. I was teasing YOU in return.
Posted this in another thread, but…it seemed to me that Joba was trying to work on something with the sliders to Drew–probably related to the fact that in his bad outings, lefties have been murdering him.
That said, I thought his outing was encouraging.
Also, Rich in NJ–great point about fan criticisms of CC, AJ, Tex, and A-rod v. those of Park. Despite the fact that all of the first 4 have been frustrating at times during their Yankee careers, they have also been awesome more often than not (even AJ, although his frustrating moments are so bad that they tend to overshadow his awesome ones in the minds of some fans); Park has been unquestionably terrible.
One more thing about Burnett, while on the subject: it is pretty disheartening that so many Yankee “fans” forget exactly how clutch and important AJ’s brilliant game 2 start was in last year’s WS. I still think if he loses that game, we don’t win the WS.