John Flaherty part of baseball ownership group
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 24, 2010 
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From our friends over on the news side of The Journal News, former Yankees catcher and current broadcaster John Flaherty is part of an ownership group that is working to bring baseball to Rockland County.
Flaherty is from the area and is part of Bottom 9 Baseball, the group that is working to lease a new stadium so that Rockland can have a team in the Can-Am League.
While we’re linking to things, we’ll throw a link to poor Shane Lindsay, who seems to have several teams that like him, but none that like him quite enough. Lindsay in the Yankees system briefly this season — if you blinked, you missed it — before being claimed off waivers by the Indians earlier this month. Today Lindsay was designated for assignment again — third time this season — to make room for a Jayson Nix waiver claim.
The White Sox winners of 9 straight are no longer sellers.
The Rockland Flash? Hmm. Not feeling it.
MTU,
Jumping into your conversation, but it’s always possible that the Yankees trade for Lee. But in your heart of hearts, do you really think the Yankees are going to do it?
When they won without him last year (against him btw), they have a great staff now (best in baseball, just like I said at the beginning of the season), and they’d have to give up prospects to even get a seat at the table?
re: Cliff Lee
I’d only trade for Cliff Lee if we’re not double paying. In order for us not to overpay, two things need to happen.
1)He signs an extension with us.
2)It’s a 3 way deal where we move another long term expense such as Burnett to a willing third party in the National League.
If we can extend him and move Burnett to the NL in a 3 way trade for Lee, I’m all for giving up Romine in the deal.
m-
Heart of hearts I would think not but I respect Pat M.’s knowledge and contacts enough not to rule it out entirely when he is telling us that he knows that scouts are looking at our Minors at this time.
I do not know if it is part of some general due diligence or not but it would not surprise me if it wasn’t more than that so it causes me to wonder, and to open my mind up to the possibility at least.
It has not been Cash’s MO in the past but rules were meant to be broken and exceptions made. Maybe Lee is the exception ?
Fair enough m ?
Yeah, I’m not seeing a deal for Lee either.
I’m sure Cash will do hid due diligence on Lee but I can’t see him pulling the trigger on a guy who they’ll probably sign in the offseason anyways.
Especially when you consider how well the rotation has pitched this season. It’s the reason why this team is sitting atop the toughest division in baseball despite the injuries, slumps, bullpen, and overall inconsistent play by the offense.
m-
one more thing. Over time I have come to realize that us fans value our prospects, or look at our prospects differently than say a GM might so that factors into my thinking as well.
What I might do and what they might do are probably 2 completely different things (fortunately).
MTS,
Yes, some prospects are developed just for such occasions. But for a guy that’s all but vowed to reach FA? For an area that’s not a real need?
MTU,
Fair enough? Did I push a button?
I don’t know. I just don’t (personally) think that our fortunes lie with Lee. If he’s a Yankee, then, Wow! Terrific! If he slips through our hands so to speak, then it’s not the end of the world. I know people (mostly guys) really love Lee and will do anything to get him. I’m just going against the grain on this one. This is Santana & Halladay all over again. Yes, I know there were reservations about Santana and that Halladay was headed out of the division (he’s the one that I really wanted), but if Lee’s not a Yankee this season or next, Yankee baseball marches on.
I would expect AJ to remain a Yankee through 2013.
He’s got 3 yrs/50 mil left on that contract. Who’s taking that on?
And I still have faith he’ll turn his season around. What else could I hope for?
There are teams that can make that trade for Lee AND sign him to an extension. If the Yanks really want him like they did CC, they may be forced to make that early deal.
Seattle’s gonna give any prospective trade partner an opportunity to extend. It should sweeten their end of the deal.
m-
“if Lee’s not a Yankee this season or next, Yankee baseball marches on.”
I agree with you m. But he would be a great get under the right circumstances. And no you absolutely did not push a button. Not even in the slightest.
2)It’s a 3 way deal where we move another long term expense such as Burnett to a willing third party in the National League.
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How does this relate to the Yankees overpaying? It is not clear that a two way deal would be inherently unfair. Even if we accept your principle that the Yankees must unload a long term contract, it is not necessarily true that it has to be a three way trade. For instance, why is it impossible for the Yankees to make two two way trades?
Since Lee and AJ have the same agent, and Lee and AJ are tight, the chances the Yankees trade AJ are nil.
Plus, they don’t have to trade AJ to get Lee. They have enough assets to make a trade for him if they choose.
I just don’t see Cash paying twice for a player when starting pitching is not a weakness on the team at the present time.
Haha, I knew you were too cool for that!
And to clarify when I said that Lee’s all but vowed to reach FA, that means that there shouldn’t be any concern about trying to block another team.
We really need to do a “Cliff Lee 2011 AAV” blog pool.
$20M is my guess right now.
If that would get him off YES I’m all for it.
# Bronx Jeers June 24th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Seattle’s gonna give any prospective trade partner an opportunity to extend. It should sweeten their end of the deal.
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But it’s not necessarily their call regarding Lee and an extension. Lee has to be open to an extension and all indications are that he wants to test free agency this winter.
If all else fails (I doubt it will), AJ would probably be a very good reliever.
“Plus, they don’t have to trade AJ to get Lee.”
(shhh! don’t tell that to the Phillies)
I believe Lee wants to go to FA and he won’t sign an extension with anyone; he’s 1/2 season away from a huge payday.
I get the Rockies feed so in about an hour I hope to be watching the Rox dismantling the Sox again.
That isn’t too bad of an off night’s entertainment.
m,
my guess is 19 mill for 4 years
m, Cliff Lee is a hedge towards the future as well as the present…….Let’s put it this way, if Andy comes up with an inflamed elbow ( no Aceves anymore to fall back on ) then what…..I’m not saying that this is something that will happen before the deadline, but if the price is right for both parties then this is something that could occur…..As for getting him next December, well there will be a bidding issue, and if Andy retires then the price will be much higher…..Do remember, there’s very little free agent pitchers of note hitting the market…….The Yanks window of being an elite team is closing somewhat when you consider some of the aging mainstays that the club counts on………Will it happen, we’ll find out in the next 5 weels or so…..But I’d welcome Cliff Lee……Yanks offered Toronto Montero & Joba last summer but the Jays wanted Hughes instead……Halliday decided to pass on free agency and much more dough to play for a contender……Maybe Lee is of the same mindset…….I just recall what he did to our high voltage lineup last October
People are really overreacting to a few bad starts from AJ. He’s not a great pitcher by any means, but he’s a good to very good one. He’s a great teammate and he cares a lot. He’s going to come out of this eventually. Let’s just realize he’s going to be inconsistent – people would be happier if they accepted it instead of resenting him because he’s not capable of being what THEY want him to be.
I agree Betsy and Cash knows that.
Which is why, barring a serious injury to a starter in the next month, I don’t see the Yankees trading for him.
Lee supposedly wants $150m.
Pat M, Montero and Joba? I don’t recall reading that- that would have been absolute insanity; as it is, I disliked the idea of offering up Montero.
If the Yankees got Lee just as a hedge against Andy being hurt or the other pitchers struggling, then that would indicate that they are being greedy. What would they do? Put Phil in the pen? There’s no way they can go for Lee now – and if Andy struggles/gets hurt, Phil struggles, etc…….then they’ll have to deal with that if it happens.
Pat M.-
I carried the flag for you in your absence.
However, even SJ thought that Cash wouldn’t do it now.
I have learned to have a grudging respect for your predictions so I am not ruling anything out.
AJ isn’t a very good starter. He’s too inconsistent to be called that. He’s a #3-#4, and a #5 on this team.
SJ, that’s right. If an AL team gets him, so be it; the Yanks are building a nice farm system. Some of these kids can be used to obtain players they really need; right now, Lee is not a need. I admit that I don’t necessarily think the pitching will hold up the way it has. CC has got to get on a roll – and it appears he’s about to do that. I really do love AJ, but he’s a rollercoaster. Andy can’t possibly pitch as well in the 2nd half………of course, he doesn’t have to; he just has to be good. We’ll see how Phil does – but I’m hedging my bets because he’s still a kid and he’ll be facing brutal foes for most of the 2nd half. Javy? He’s probably ok. What we’re counting on is for a lot of things to go right with the pitching – but then, I guess that’s the case for all teams.
btw, I think Lee will be rented by the Twins.
AJ = overrated. He’s far too unreliable and streaky to warrant any degree of confidence in a playoff game. His postseason stats are remarkably similar to his regular season stats – he’s a .500 pitcher, no more no less.
Who would you rather have starting game two of a playoff series, AJ or Javy? I’d say Javy at this point.
kd,
Got it.
Pat,
I know, I know. I can’t see Cashman going out of character (and frankly, not addressing a present need) to reserve this guy right now. I think he has enough confidence in his negotiating skills (and financial backing) to get his guy in FA (assuming Lee is that guy).
Let’s say he trades for Lee. Javy or Phil has to leave the rotation. Phil would be the logical choice sans a Javy trade (another out of character move since he’s coveted Javy for a long time). But what a crime that would be to take Phil out of the rotation.
Rich, I don’t agree – I think he’s a good starter and often very good. I don’t think he’s a #3 or #4 and I don’t think he’s the #5 starter on this team.
AJ’s k/9 is his lowest since 2001. My guess is he’s pitching hurt and not telling anyone. It’s not out of the realm of possibility considering his history.
M, I have to say that if the Yankees got Lee and removed Phil from the rotation, I would lose utter faith in Cashman. However, since it’s not going to happen, no point in getting upset about it, lol
All I’m saying is as we all know there’ll be an opening next season ( Javy ) and then what happens if Petttite decides to retire ????? Do any of us know that Phil Hughes will be starting in October ???? Chances are nothing will come of this, but it wouldn’t be a real surprise looking foward…..SJ, how’s the nephew ?????
Betsy
He’s often bad as well, especially on the road:
H/R ERA
2009: 3.46 /5.85
2010: 3.51 /4.59
You have to factor that in.
If the Twins get Lee, it certainly makes things interesting, especially in a five-game series….
“Let’s say he trades for Lee. Javy or Phil has to leave the rotation.”
It would be AJ.
The Twins have a young catcher to trade, and that’s what the Mariners want.
Since Lee and AJ have the same agent a deal has to be struck where Lee doesn’t publicly commit to an extension. This lowers the value for the M’s and after we trade for him we extend him.
Then we trade Javy for whatever before the deadline.
Hughes and AJ fight it out for the 4th spot down the stretch with the loser going to the pen for the playoffs.
Most likely that would be Hughes which would be fine as I would much rather have Lee than Javy in the playoffs.
Now it comes down to what we give up.
With the lower value I would give up Romine and a pitcher or SS.
So simple.
Pat M, you can make the argument the Yanks need him next year, for sure (even though I really hate the years/$$$ it will take).
Rich, I know he’s often bad…..
Rich-
I am not so sure AJ would make a very good reliever because of his well known inconsistency.
Thats the last thing you want in a reliever especially if he is to take on a high leverage spot.
But no worries because it is unlikely to happen anyway.
When discussing AJ, I don’t think some people realize how bad some pitchers on other staffs are. AJ would be a 2 on a lot of teams and could even be considered the #1 on a few teams in the big leagues right now. As with everything…its all relative.
AJ will not be removed from the rotation..that I’m almost sure about. I don’t really trust Javy, so if Phil is pitching well, I’d take Javy out. We don’t know how Phil will hold up in the 2nd half, so this is moot right now.
They’re not taking AJ out of the rotation.
Hahahaha Winn just threw the ball to the wrong base costing the Cards another run.
Jose Molina (TOR) is hitting.304 playing against his baby bro,Yadier (STL)
TOR-4 STL-0
Torre basically takes shots to almost every his explayers, except core-4.
I think A-Rod’s performance in last post season is the best revenge. One can argue that, A-Rod sucked in postseasons under Torre, but brilliant under different manager. So, after all the one sucks might be Torre.
I think A-Rod should pretend to be nice to with Torre. Then, beat the shxt out of his team.
We’re not just talking the playoffs. You’re talking 2-3 months worth of starts.
And as for AJ, I know it’s fashionable (sarcasm) to hate on him, but no one was hating on him the first 2 months of the season.
HEY GUYS JETER has been using new at bat music.. (well at least I think its new)… I noticed it when I was at the stadium last week… and I really loved it… does anyone know the name of the song? It like has no words.. it’s not the rap song he uses.. its the other one. PLEASE HELP
MTU
He could empty the tank for an inning or two, probably hitting 97-98. He’s largely a two pitch pitcher anyway, and hitter might have a tough time with the FB and curve.
Maybe command would be issue, but it might be worth a shot (if they got Lee this season, which I doubt).
someone mentioned in older thread that it’s disrespectful to Jeter if Yanks give him $20m/2 yrs contract. LOL.
nuff said. They are a charity organization or what.
“And as for AJ, I know it’s fashionable (sarcasm) to hate on him, but no one was hating on him the first 2 months of the season.”
What’s even more fashionable is to use the word “hate” when someone is merely making a fact-based critical argument.
Rich-
I knew where you were coming from.
When discussing AJ, I don’t think some people realize how bad some pitchers on other staffs are. AJ would be a 2 on a lot of teams and could even be considered the #1 on a few teams in the big leagues right now.
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Well, I’m for one quite happy we’re all not on the LoHud-(insert whatever team AJ would be considered a #1)-Blog right now.
If the Yankees were merely going to give Jeter whatever he wanted, why wouldn’t they sign him after last season when his value would never be higher?
He’ll get more than his stats would suggest, but I think he will get less years than some people think.
Well, no one was talking about removing him from the rotation or putting him out to pasture in Seattle in April or May. That’s a fact.
whatever,
Sometimes he uses “Candy” by Cameo.
I’m kinda hoping that’s not the song you really love.
“Well, I’m for one quite happy we’re all not on the LoHud-(insert whatever team AJ would be considered a #1)-Blog right now.”
Me too….
Jake Westbrook, Aarong Harang, Ross Olendorf, Scott Feldman, Kevin Millwood. …..take a look at these “#1 starters” for teams numbers and it may make you feel a little better about calling AJ the Yankees 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th starter.
# whatever June 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
HEY GUYS JETER has been using new at bat music.. (well at least I think its new)… I noticed it when I was at the stadium last week… and I really loved it… does anyone know the name of the song? It like has no words.. it’s not the rap song he uses.. its the other one. PLEASE HELP
I posted it the other week but I forgot.
I would be surprised but not shocked if the Yankees traded for Lee.
The value of a WS to the Yankees on a year-to-year basis is extremely high.
The AL East is very tough and if Minnesota gets Lee they become another serious threat in the AL. If the price is not too bad (not including Montero for example) I could see Cash pulling the trigger. It really depends on how Cash lines up the cost-benefit analysis of trading for Lee and winning number 28.
If this surprising event were to happen I bet they would trade Javy. With the way he has pitched lately he has trade value.
It really is a shame the Phillies are so poorly run. If they had actually engaged with the Yankees this past offseason I bet the Yankees would have put the best offer on the table for Lee. That said, if they were smarter, they wouldn’t have traded Lee in the first place!
“Well, no one was talking about removing him from the rotation or putting him out to pasture in Seattle in April or May. That’s a fact.”
The idea that he could be traded is and always was ridiculous.
Yes, decisions are made based on the current reality. The reality is that he is the #5 starter. In April, Hughes was.
So if the idea is the have the best five starters in the rotation, in the highly unlikely event that the Yankees traded for Lee, AJ wouldn’t be one of them.
There is a pitcher out there right now that could be a big plus for the Yankees, and a lot cheaper, Harden.
whatever,
Too short blow the whistle
Why do the Yankees need Harden?
“whatever says:
June 24, 2010 at 7:49 pm
HEY GUYS JETER has been using new at bat music.. (well at least I think its new)… I noticed it when I was at the stadium last week… and I really loved it… does anyone know the name of the song? It like has no words.. it’s not the rap song he uses.. its the other one. PLEASE HELP”
‘Juicy’ by Notorius BIG ?
He also has used ‘The Humpty Dance’ by Digital Underground(not sure if he’s used it this season)
Its Too Short blow the whistle.
Harden is coming back to being the quality pitcher he was, and if the Yankees think they need insurance, or plan on Hughes going to the pen, he could be a quality guy on the cheap. No, he is not Cliff Lee, but, as of now, who is?
Isn’t Harden on the DL. He’s not having a very good year anyway.
Who said Hughes is going to the pen? He’ll probably start in the playoffs.
They need bullpen help, not a starter, at least at this point.
“Harden is coming back to being the quality pitcher he was”
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When did this happen?
Phil Columbus June 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Isn’t Harden on the DL. He’s not having a very good year anyway.
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My guess you don’t watch Yankees games. Harden beat us this week.
Harden is not a viable option for the Yanks. He’s also on the DL, which makes him even less of an option.
He’s essentially the Nick Johnson of pitchers and always has been.
He’s also a 5 inning pitcher because he throws too many damn pitches per inning and doesn’t throw enough strikes.
I think Hughes innings with have a huge impact on what the Yankees decide to do about lee.
We didn’t face Harden this week.
My guess you don’t watch Yankees games. Harden beat us this week.
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When did this happen? They haven’t played Texas since April.
Harden is such a good athlete, he was used as a pinch hitter, and was 1 for 1. He’s batting around .455. Yes, I know we need bullpen help, but, Aceves could be back after the ASG break.
I kinda get Harden and Haren mixed up too.
But only in name.
BIG AL
Leave the “d” out. Harden pitches for the Rangers and is on the dl. You mean Haren.
Haren is good, but he would cost a ton.
Harden’s no Haren. Or is it vice versa?
Are you talking about Haren….from Arizona?
My error, I was thinking Dan Haren and wrote Harden. Da
Haren makes 13 million in 2011 and 2012 and then 15 million in 2013.
Would rather just wait till the offseason and pay extra for Lee.
Even if he meant Haren, he didn’t beat the Yanks this week anyways. Haren was losing 3-2 when he left the game.
He’s also not the same pitcher he was a couple of years ago.
Betsy – I’m so glad you came back, I was wondering where you’ve been. Don’t let those evil people break your spirit, you have ideas and thoughts that human beings haven’t even thought of yet. You are the type of person blesses the human race every 50 or so years.
Think big, like Einstein, Nietzsche, Amelia Earhart, Lara Croft, you are too smart to let people keep you down.
You are on that short list of great people. Keep up the good work, the great ideas you have please don’t stop sharing them within this core group of Yankee fans. We will always support you.
I’d like to nominate you for a nobel prize. If Obama can win one for two weeks worth of work, you can win one too.
Betsy, this Buds for you!!!!!
Dbacks are looking to unload Haren’s 12.5 mil contract, and they want low cost players for him. I think he can be had without giving up that much.
# BIG AL June 24th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
My error, I was thinking Dan Haren and wrote Harden. Da
We beat Dan Haren.
Brackman was promoted to AA!
Jeter’s in his mid 30s now. Isnt it time he had some at bat music with a little more class ??
I cant stand rap music. Im a little surprised with Jeter’s squeaky clean image that he chooses rap.
We could get Haren to DH.
Betsy, do you think the Red Sox will keep playing at this level? I need to know what you think. BTW, do you know if there are any Dairy Queens’ within a 2000 mile radius of your neighborhood? I just lost my job and I always wanted to work at a Dairy Queen.
# BIG AL June 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Dbacks are looking to unload Haren’s 12.5 mil contract, and they want low cost players for him. I think he can be had without giving up that much.
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Why would the Yanks trade for Haren when…
A.) They already have 5 starters in the rotation
B.) Haren is not the same pitcher he used to be and is having a subpar season (in the weaker league and in a cavernous ballpark)
“Brackman was promoted to AA!”
Sweet.
I’m having a bad night, we lost the first game, not the second. A senior moment.
I better quit while I can still walk away unbloody.
Color me unimpressed by Austin Jackson. I watched him at bat twice tonight against the Mets. He also took a circuitous route on a fly ball.
“’m having a bad night, we lost the first game, not the second. A senior moment.”
Hey we’re all probably a little sleep deprived….
Staying up to watch these late games, the post game, and then being too wound up after last nights game has taken it’s toll.
Big Al,
Don’t feel badly. I have been sleepwalking at work the past two days. Always happens during this West Coast trips. Luckily my boss is a baseball fan and understands, even though he does root for the Phillies. No accounting for taste. LOL
Hello all
Here I am in Manning, SC. 13 hours on the road. Not a bad drive, really, and I didn’t start getting tired until the last half hour.
Relaxing now.
Saw the score this morning before I left the house but had no knowledge of anything about last night’s game except for the score. Sounds like it must have been frustrating here (I haven’t read backwards), based on the failure to score with many opportunities and I’m sure all were pulling their hair out in Mo’s second inning.
My boy Colin came through again! Nice. Very nice.
SJ44 -
If you’re there, how’s Tony doing?
Tomorrow will be another long day of driving, but dinner will be waiting at my mom’s table.
Big Al, I dont stay up for these late night West Coast games. Yes you occasionally miss a wild one like last night. My routine is to listen on radio for a couple of innings then turn it off. Its June. If this were a crucial game Id hang in there but not this early in the season.
We lost to Godrigo Lopez
Folks, the Yankees made the right move on Granderson instead of Jackson. I havent seen anything from Jackson that makes me regret dealing him.
Hi Doreen!! I have been waiting 14 hours to hear how you are doing.
I’m the further west than west, and I’m still groggy.
JM
Thanks, I got no sleep after watching Mo’s Magic in the 10th. It looked as if the D’backs were doing their best to give us the game, and we kept finding ways not to score. Oh well, any win is a good win. The players more than anyone else realize what they need to improve and win. I think they will play much better in LA. The better the team the harder the Yankees play.
Ken – I can’t for the life of me turn off the TV when the Yankees are playing. Call me nuts, but after moving down south 1 1/2 years ago, and not getting to the stadium, has taken it’s toll. I’m going north in Jully and spending 2 weeks seeing family during the day, and my Yankees at night. I need my Yankees fix.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/...../#comments
Well look at that. The Yankees’ blossoming ace turns the ripe old age of 24 today. Hard to believe he’s still that young, no? Here’s a partial list of big league starters older than Mr. Hughes…
Clay Buchholz (22 months older)
Yovani Gallardo (four months)
Josh Johnson (16 months)
Ian Kennedy (14 months)
Tim Lincecum (24 months)
Mike Pelfrey (30 months)
David Price (11 months)
Good night guys and gals, catch you all tomorrow.
GO YANKEES!
Betsy, thanks for giving us the breakdown of all those pitchers’ age. It’s amazing how you can just figure this stuff out. Seriously, I’m impressed. One word, AMAZING!!!
Did I mention I despise Jerry Remy ?
Doreen
You might be able to do lunch at the Georgia Pig tmw.
I’ll look up the exit #.
http://www.roadfood.com/Review.....x?RefID=82
Doreen, still looking for exit #
mick
I just looked it up!! It’s about 3 and a half hours from where we are. That means we’ll get there about 10:30, 11:00 am. I have a phone number, so maybe they’ll be open early for lunch. If so, we’re there.
Exit 29 Brunswick, Ga.
Thanks, mick.
They open at 11, Doreen.
Dice K all over the place early.
It’s not fancy but good, try a little of everything, it’s definitely unique. If it’s a nice day you can eat outside.
Doreen….Cracker Barrel…..Great meatloaf
dice-k trying to imitate d-train.
pat m.
who have you played for and when?
I always get breakfast at Cracker barrel…no matter the time of day.
what do they offer at cracker barrel?
country cookin.
greasy?
We’re goin to Sizzler,
We’re goin to Sizzler.
What movie?
Sorry if this has been mentioned in an earlier thread but being reported that Brackman has been promoted to Trenton.
What exactly could this mean for the big team this year if anything might they be trying to see if perhaps he might be for this year only someone that could help them in the bullpen?
fried chicken, pinto beans, turnip greens, steak and gravy, biscuits, country ham, etc.
whew thats a heavy reakfast
could be a reak fest, meant breakfast
breakfast, pancakes, waffles, eggs…same stuff as IHOP pretty much but better I think.
eggs are eggs…i like pancakes
i had a nice cheese omelet at the Waffle House
Again, mick, thanks!
We went to a Waffle House this morning. I got eggs.
But daughters got waffles.
No pancakes on the menu. Hmmm.
We almost did Cracker Barrel for lunch, but opted for Applebee’s instead. I know, I know, I know. We were headed for CB, but the other place beckoned…
We’re getting the breakfast at the hotel in the a.m. to save some time. Manning SC doesn’t offer much – a Shoney’s, a Wendy’s, an Arby’s and a McDonalds.
Gayle & pat -
You both mentioned Brackman being promoted to AA Trenton. I’m going to have to scout out when he’s pitching and get myself to a game. Haven’t been to one there yet this season. Need to get on that, and this is a good reason.
I love wafflehouse… total greasy spoon. scrambled eggs and cheese, hash-browns and raisin bread toast. yum
Nephew update….
Came through the procedure well. Wires should be in for four weeks. Can begin light exercise in two weeks.
Dr expects a complete recovery.
That is great news SJ!
How about breakfast at Bob Evans?
Good news SJ glad everything went as well as could be expected
SJ44
Thats good news.
He’ll probably get carpel tunnel from texting with all the free time.
Good news, SJ.
Best wishes to him and the family.
Excellent, SJ. Thanks.
I think the Mets could be the luckiest team in baseball
Mets mounting a comeback against Detroit…Now 6-5, bottom 7
Tigers about to blow a 5 run lead to the Mets
Damn, the Mets are for real. Would be scary if they got Lee too.
Thanks everybody.
Maine,
He’s wearing it out texting me this evening. I know what you mean!
Bases loaded, one out in Mets game with Coke pitching for the Tigers
SJ, great to hear the good news about your nephew.
Coke needs a shave. lol
Coke gets out of it. Still 6-5, going to the top 8.
Wow, what a job by Coke!
Got Wright and Ike out with the bases loaded. Stone Cold.
Coke looks like a hippie
li’l shrimp is halfway to his homerun goal.
Great news SJ.
Got home from dinner with mrs. and am catching up.
1. SJ – good news. He’s got a bunch of us rooting for him.
2. Doreen – safe travels to you. And I’m jealous, you can get to Trenton to see Brackman.
3. There are umpteen reasons for the Yankees to wait until the offseason to go after Lee. Having said that, we have no idea what is the cost-benefit analysis that Cash and the Yankees have done. As Pat M and LGY have posted, it will come down to the analysis and the price – both financial and players involved – at the point when they have to make the decision. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised either way.
apparently opposing pitchers can’t even get Boston’s career AL pitchers out
can they sweep LAD?
I’m glad to hear about your nephew, SJ. He sounds like the type of hard worker who won’t miss a beat.
Re: Cliff Lee
One of the main reasons why Lee is a Yankee target in the first place is because the front office dished out big money to AJ Burnett to pitch like a number 2. While they gave him number 2 money, they still feel uncomfortable with him taking the ball in a Game 2 after CC. So the fact that Lee is a part of the discussion is largely a result of a miscalculation of Burnett by the Yankees.
So, if Lee arrives here to pitch a Game 2 after CC and gets paid or extended for 18-20 million per season or makes even close to the 125 million he supposedly is demanding, then I want the Yankees to admit they made a mistake paying big money to AJ and try to move that contract to an NL team where he actually has a chance to earn it as a number 2.
I don’t care if they have the same agent. I don’t care that he and Lee are friends. CC and Lee are friends. I don’t care if it takes a 3 way deal or 2 2 way deals.
I don’t want to see CC for 23, Lee for 18-20, AJ for 16, Andy for 15 and Vazquez for 11.5.
I would want to move a long-term contract from the rotation if Lee comes here.
If it’s not possible to move AJ, then I don’t want Lee.
Glad to hear things went well SJ, hope he can fight off the cabin fever.
How about this to consider regarding Cliff Lee –
I personally don’t think anyone knows how well stocked a draft is but if the 2011 draft is as well stocked as some so called experts on here claim then wouldn’t it be smart for the yankees to trade some extra pieces (albeit some good minor leaguers) for lee and then keep their 32nd pick in the draft next year as well as get 2 more draft picks from some other team that signs vazquez
I believe AJ either has a full or limited no trade clause.
They aren’t going to trade AJ. He’s an important part of the team and any pursuit of Lee isn’t going to mean they move AJ. Not happening.
The baseball draft isn’t like the football draft.
No matter how stocked it may be, you are still projecting guys 3-5 years down the line.
Any pursuit of Lee won’t have the draft as a factor.
Bret,
Most trades today are made more for business than baseball reasons.
The Yankees won’t have takers for AJ’s contracts, as well having no interest in dealing him.
He also would be one reason why Lee would come to NY.
One won’t have anything to do with the other.
Bret – I respectfully disagree with your analysis, above.
I don’t think the Yanks miscalculated. I think they realized they were taking a bit of a risk with the dollars. The thing was, they still needed another starter, and after CC he was the best pitcher on the market. What, you would have preferred Derek Lowe? And AJ did pitch well when needed last year – the playoffs and WS. He was as good as you can be in WS game 2, after Lee won game 1. So, I think AJ earned his keep last year.
But, as we all know, AJ is still AJ no matter how much $$$ you throw at him. It’s not that he doesn’t try his best, it’s just that’s who and what he is.
As far as not wanting to tie up more money with Cliff Lee – I’d look at it like any investment. Will investing that much money let you accomplish your goal? And how much is that goal worth to you? Whether it’s buying stocks for retirement planning, planning for the kids’ education, or wanting to make even more $$$ by winning the WS and filling that stadium and selling YES air time to advertisers night after night, it’s still calculating return on investment.
But, what do I know. Cash probably has a whole other set of priorities. We will see. Stay tuned.
SJ,
So very glad to hear your nephew is going to be fine.
Doreen,
Whatever you do, don’t go to Cracker Barrel. It is the worst food I ever ate on the road. Truly gross.
Most people in this country don’t know good food like we do, and they love the gift shop.
Glad you made it 13 hrs. That’s a long time. I can’t even sit in a car that long.
About last night, Granderson hit a HR in the top of the 10th. Mo pitched his second inning in the 10th. The first 2 guys got hits. They intentionally walk the next guy, and Mariano gets a pop and at least one strike out. We win in 10.
pop up
Another homer for Beltre. I really think Boston should go after Sammy Sosa in the off season. He would hit 50 bombs with them.
Other then Renteria and Lugo has a free agent hitter come to Boston in the last 5 years and disappointed?
mick June 24th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
We’re goin to Sizzler,
We’re goin to Sizzler.
What movie?
White Men Cant Jump
Yeah a little late