Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Gunderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Francisco Cervelli C
Brett Gardner LF
A.J. Burnett RHP
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230 Responses to “Cervelli starts second game in L.A.”
Everyone go away and let the 2 morons talk to each other.
Oh, that would be impossible as they are one and the same.
Better yet let him take over the board and talk to himself.
What fun!
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Now that they are here together.
Not you Doreen.
As a Yankee fan living in Southern California, I did a double take when I heard Gunderson but also laughed when Vin Scully said Posada would be 29 in August, then corrected himself and said 39. I’ll be there tonight, though.
Frank and Beans, he did not get in Posada’s face. AJ was upset with himself, that’s all. It says nothing at all about their relationship; it says that Po needs a rest
watch the game on tv with the volumn down and turn on the radio, Erin. Makes the game more acceptable. The feeds are in sync….even computer feeds.
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GB-that’s a good idea. I’ll keep that in mind for future FOX games-I did actually make plans for tonight though (which I just might have cancelled if I was going to get the game LOL).
I would have to watch on the computer though since the game I’ll be getting on Fox is CWS/Cubs.
I hate Granderson batting 2nd. Girardi should just leave the lineup the way it always is with Swish 2nd and deal with the lefties in the bullpen later. If he needs to move up a lefty then bat Gardner there.
Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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It says that Posada is gettin a day off after catching a night game and catching Pettitte tomorrow and adding a little extra offense against a good pitcher.
I don’t buy King’s column that the Dodgers series was not in Yankee Stadium because FOX wanted to show the Red Sox face Manny at Fenway.
They could have always played the Sox/Dodgers series in May for the first interleague weekend. There is no rule that it has to be the “natural rivalry” in the first matchup… Dodgers actually played the Tigers at home that weekend. We played the Phillies last year in the first series, not the Mets.
NumberOnePositivePosterInTheUniverse June 26th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Betsy, I agree, you should email Chad. Because the fake Betsy really has a lot of negative energy
Considering Kershaw is a good young lefty who the Yanks have never seen before they will need all the bats in the lineup tomorrow. It makes sense to play Posada tomorrow and rest him today. Also changing AJ’s catcher to try and find something that works makes sense.
Burnett wasn’t pitching any better with Cervelli catching. It’s Burnett/the pitcher, not the catcher. Idiots that keep thinking this would be better off reading a book and leave the computers off.
However, the common feeling among clubs who are active scouting in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela say the talent pool doesn’t include a player like (Gary) Sanchez and overall lacks the depth of recent years.
“It’s a very down year talent wise,” a baseball official said. “There are teams that are going to overpay to pay the better players who aren’t that good. The prices people are asking for are ridiculous.”
The Yankees aren’t poised to drop $3 million on a player, but that doesn’t mean they are ignoring this year’s class.
There is a belief among scouts in Latin America that the Yankees already have agreed on a deal with Javier Pimental, a shortstop from the Dominican. And they like power-hitting third baseman Elvis Sanchez, who has been working out in Tampa.
Several teams have linked Roughned Odor, a shortstop from Venezuela, to the Yankees, but they have heard that he is seeking in the $1.8 million area and that is far too rich for the Yankees for the 5-foot-11, 160-pounder, who projects as a possible second baseman due to an average arm.
BD, that does suck for them. However, everyone they bring up seems to contrbute…………Obviously that person won’t be Pedroia, but I’m not going to mourn for them – they’ll probably be fine
Regardless of who the catcher is or what pitches he calls, the man on the mound needs to have command of the strike zone. Good pitchers will battle their way out of trouble when their best pitches aren’t quite working for them in the early innings.
Props to Phil Hughes for learning this in his young career.
Betsy, you make an excellent, excellent point, the red sox do seem to have a deep system. They get surprised by a lot of their minor leaguers they call up, meaning they always find a way to contribute.
BD, I don’t want to speculate as to how long Pedroia will be out, but no question it’s a huge blow if he’s out for awhile. I was being somewhat facetious because this is not a loss to be taken lightly; it’s just frustrating that they bring up these guys who have all been huge contributors. I still think they’ll be right in the thick of things until the bitter end…….
Pedroia with a broken foot – Boston can’t catch a break this year (pun intended).
They have had a lot of injuries – Cameron, Ellsbury, Drew, now Pedroia. Beckett, DiceK, Wakefield…I’m sure they didn’t intend to rely on the likes of McDonald, Hall, and Hermida to carry them thru.
As Jeter has pointed out time and again, no one feels sorry for you because you’re beat up. However, the Red Sox remain a tough team, with some gamers. Not saying that I’m afraid of the mighty Red Sox, just saying they’re that depsite all of this, they are still in the hunt.
Pavano shut out the Mets today – talk about frustrating. Cash was right about him being a very good pitcher, but what a nightmare his stint here was. HOw annoying that he’s turned things around in Minny.
Buchholz and Lester go the next 2 days against the weak-hitting Giants…. Sox will be fine.
Their schedule is not that brutal either… 6 games with Tampa and Baltimore at home. Tampa is in free-fall mode. Then Toronto/Tampa on the road before the ASB, which could be dicey– but remember, they swept Tampa and Toronto on the road earlier this year.
Sox don’t have nearly the same home/road splits on offense that they did last year. They have actually killed it on the road against good teams lately.
“Betsy, you make an excellent, excellent point, the red sox do seem to have a deep system. ”
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on the contrary, the Sox do not have a deep system with MLB ready guys.
Their best prospects are in AA or lower.
McDonald and Nava have done respectable as fill-ins… but it’s akin to the Yanks getting production from a guy like Thames or Randy Winn.
I expect regression from both of those guys as the season wears on and pitchers identify their weaknesses – and make no mistake – if they didn’t have some weaknesses they probably wouldn’t have been no-names for so long.
they really are best suited as backup/situational players.
BD, yeah – but that wouldn’t effect the Yanks until the WS. The Cards were supposed to have a nasty rotation last year and they got ousted in the first round. I do not want Lee on the Mets – because I HATE the Mets. If he goes to the Twins, whatever – what can you do. I never even heard speculation that he goes to the Cards. I hate the Ms for being so bad that they have to trade him at all.
Betsy, but you did imply that by saying everyone they bring up contributes, isn’t that the definition of a good farm system? I don’t like saying positive things about the sox either, but that’s the truth – no?
4 vs. Texas
3 @ Oakland
4 @ Seattle
3 @ Anaheim
3 vs. Detroit
4 vs. Cleveland
4 @ Yankees
3 @ Toronto
3 @ Texas
3 vs. Anaheim
3 vs. Toronto
Seattle/Bal at home
3 @ Tampa
As far as I’m concerned, there are no real frontrunners for Lee.
rumors this early are generally media constructs to get people excited or are started when a writer throws out a possible scenario just for fun.
I’d prefer, of course, that he went to the NL but I think the Cardinals are the team to beat in the NL already. If they did add Lee, it would be quite a team.
I’ll worry about it if/when it’s time to worry about it… which isn’t for a while
BD, good points. Ken Rosenthal thinks Lee might be gone as soon as he throws his last pitch on Tuesday, but I don’t see why the M’s would be in a rush.
That’s a pretty tough schedule for the Sox until the break (outside of BAL, although they do have a losing record against them) and they’ve had trouble with Texas the last couple of years.
The interleague games may have cooled off the bats and timing of Ortiz unless a fresh supply of “milkshakes” arrives from the D.R.
Lester and Buchholz are the only reliable starters for the Socks and Francona has been using Daniel Bard like he attended the Joe Torre Academy of Bullpen Burnout.
The loss and/or ineffectiveness of Josh Beckett is also starting to wear on the Sox.
Tim Wakefield has done ok at best filling in. Daisuke is a total crapshoot but of the games I’ve seen, he’s lucky he hasn’t gotten clobbered more often.
Losing an innings eater like Beckett has hurt the rotation and the bullpen, who are starting to tire.
Tough injuries thus far for the Sox.
But boy genius Theo Epstein and the front office didn’t exactly plan well for this.
Boof Bonser was their long man / extra starter??
Bill Hall as their utility infielder??
When your upper minors lack any clear MLB ready players, they probably should have made a couple more signings or ponied up a little more cash to sign better backups.
MTU, that sounds like a lot of if logic there, and I still don’t know the definition. I just looked it up and it read this way:
Fracture: A break in bone or cartilage. Although usually the result of trauma, a fracture can be caused by an acquired disease of bone such as osteoporosis or by abnormal formation of bone in a disease such as osteogenesis imperfecta (“brittle bone disease”). Fractures are classified according to their character and location as, for example, a greenstick fracture of the radius.
The Phillies should trade back the prospects (and perhaps a little more) that they got for Lee and admit they made a mistake trading him in the first place
Aside from day after a nite game. Seems I remember Po taking one off his foot again last nite. Could be a little sore again. Maybe not. If he is sore you don’t want him moving around favoring a limb, he could hurt himself more seriously.
Gordon Endes on ESPN says research on that type of injury shows about 86% of cases recover in 6 weeks.
Take that for what it’s worth. But yeah, this is no surprise. You only had to see the injury and see what they said afterward to know he wasn’t coming back anytime soon.
“Joe’s legacy as a Yankee is safe and secure,” Cashman said Friday. “He was great here. We did great things together. No doubt he should have his day here someday.”
Beyond that, Cashman wouldn’t comment on anything regarding Torre, but others in the organization make it clear that the GM was hurt badly by the book’s portrayal of him as someone who betrayed Torre in the final days of his tenure as manager.
“Cash was the one who convinced (the Steinbrenner brothers) to make Joe an offer,” one Yankee source said Friday. “He can’t understand why Joe painted him as the bad guy. He’s like (Derek) Jeter, he considered Joe a father figure, too.”
Torre, meanwhile, insists that Cashman “took things in the book the wrong way,” as he said a couple of days ago.
And then there is Stottlemyre’s sense that Cashman wanted to do things his way as he gained more power over the last several years.
“The biggest change I saw during my time there was in Cashman, not in Torre,” Stottlemyre said. “The two of them used to have such a positive link for so long. But at some point Cashman started to do things his way.”
Cashman doesn’t deny that, saying he felt the need to be more pro-active when the Yankees stopped winning championships. He admits to convincing Stottlemyre to change the club’s approach to pitching to the Red Sox in 2005, based on statistics that showed Boston’s hitters had more success against the Yankees than other teams.
“I’ll never apologize for trying to make us better,” Cashman said Friday.
Because she disappeared when he came around and she was posting as Phitins to “punish” the board because people were picking on her for her shxtty bridge jumper attitude.
That’s as plain as I can put it. I really believe they were one and the same.
And I’m not the same person as NumberOne – she just seems to draw negative attention.
Boston really doesn’t have near-ready players in the system to patch the infield, outfield and pitching. They have to bite the bullet or strip some of their better young talent to patch things up. It’s either that option or take on huge long term salaries for low B grade level prospects.
I believe the immutable laws of the universe say a major injury to a Yankee starter is crippling while a major injury to a Yankee rival is something the rival can absorb and they’ll be fine and in it to the end…
“They were supposedly stuck with Milton Bradley last year after signing a 3-yr deal.
Somehow, they got rid of him, didn’t they?”
Bradley was traded for Silva in an exchange of big contracts.
What team can the Cubs trade a head case to with 45 million owed to him. Cubs would have to take back someone who is owed big bucks.
Torre didn’t see it as Cashman trying to make the team better, he saw it as Cashman trying to take power away from Torre and mold the team his way because Torre was getting too much credit….
Pavano in his last 2 starts has thrown 2 complete games on the road against Halladay and Santana
Not bad. He’s a very good pitcher, just wasn’t here.
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As much as I hated Pavano when he was with the Yankees, I’ve since mellowed on him a bit. I think he just went through a stretch where he struggled to stay healthy. I think many of us have gone through similar stretches. I know I did in the last year.
Maybe he’s just finally healthy, both physically AND mentally.
It sounds like Keebler’s injury is at least as bad as Posada’s. Fortunately for Pedroia, a second baseman doesn’t have to get up and down so often so he won’t be as limited when he returns as Jorge was. The interesting thing will be seeing how it affects his hitting. Keebler was white hot at the plate when he got hurt. As we saw with Jorge, it took about two weeks for him to get his batting eye back after he returned.
Have to get 1 or 2 central defenders that can actually play defense in the next 4 years.
Terrible job by the USA defense this entire WC. Completely undisciplined and just stupid mistake after stupid mistake.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if you don’t have a head for the game and instincts for the game you will continue to get burned.
Clarke needs to go back little league and relearn the fundamentals. He let his team down in a huge way not once but twice just 5 minutes into the game.
Another thing to think about re: Pedroia’s injury.
Let’s say he has to spend 6 weeks in a cast.
How much more time will it take to get him back to playing condition.
Remember that his foot and possibly calf will have to be immobilized.
This will lead to a lot of stiffness and possibly some muscular atrophy.
In simple terms, It’s gonna take a lot longer than 6 weeks for him to return. That might just be the healing time and does not take into account rehab time.
“Torre didn’t see it as Cashman trying to make the team better, he saw it as Cashman trying to take power away from Torre and mold the team his way because Torre was getting too much credit.”
I’m not so sure about that, but it’s obvious that some personal stuff went down and it’s going to take some others not personally involved in this falling out to help both sides move closer together towards some resolvement.
“Maybe he’s just finally healthy, both physically AND mentally.”
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perhaps. I wish Pavano was a little more outspoken and/or apologetic though.
Matsui took out a full page ad apologizing to fans when he broke his wrist (diving for a ball).
Obviously, that is rare, but if Pavano had simply said something and/or made every effort to show that he could not play, it would have gone a long way.
If nothing else, it kind of validates what the Yankees scouts saw in Pavano when they signed him. It really wasn’t the Yankees fault he was hurt and for that, they don’t deserve as much of the criticism as they got while he was here.
I have also been amazed watching this WC at how many player’s have no instincts with the ball around the net.
I can’t remember the last time seeing some many player’s so passive and so in between when attacking the net.
A soccer net is huge. The attacker always has a large advantage compared to the goalie.
Altidore is a promising attacker as someone to play off of. He is very strong and wins a ton of balls. If I am Bradley, I take one or 2 player’s under my wing and just pound into their head how to attack the goal.
Just create a ton of scenario’s and drills and drill that 2nd instinct about attacking the net. Maybe he should call Kevin Long in. He is great at creating drills
Joe, I posted that earlier and I also thought it was interesting. I love Cash’s quote – and he’s right, he should never apologize for trying to make the team better. If Joe couldn’t handle it, too bad. I love Mel – it seems like he had a hard time grasping that as well.
Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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Yeah, that’s it. Burnett was never an inconsistent pitcher with streaks like this until Posada became his battery mate.
IT’S ALL POSADA’S FAULT!!!!!!!
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I never said it was his Fault, But Franco you know better than most people that Posada is hot head. I never said that he is the reason why he is inconsistent, he is not the reason nor is the Pitching coach.
The Posada and AJ need to get it together so that the Yankees can go further.
Look, clown – if you want to think I was that moron trolling as Phitin Phillies, go right ahead. I don’t care if you believe me or not, but I have a life and I had no reason to try and get “revenge” on anyone here.
I hope AJ watched not just what CC did last night, but how he did it. AJ knows he hasn’t been right. CC gave him a recipe last night. AJ needs to try to cook up a better start tonight.
CC was working in off-speed pitches brilliantly and kept the Dodgers off balance all game.
It isn’t going to be enough to overpower this team with 4-seamers.
AJ really needs to have his curveball working tonight, along with some well-placed 2-seamers.
I’ve given up on expecting any changeups from him.
I can’t forgive Pavano for lying about his car accident………..the fact that Cash considered bringing him back, but didn’t because he knew the players would not handle it well (and the fans, but mostly the players) says something. The Yankee players welcomed Javy back despite his struggles in 2004 because they knew he was hurt and he gave it his best. Clearly that is not how they felt about Pavano.
I never said it was his Fault, But Franco you know better than most people that Posada is hot head. I never said that he is the reason why he is inconsistent, he is not the reason nor is the Pitching coach.
The Posada and AJ need to get it together so that the Yankees can go further.
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Burnett and Posada have worked together before and produced good results.
The fans simply choose to ignore them and focus on Burnett’s bad ones, which come more often than they should with his talent and experience.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Look, clown – if you want to think I was that moron trolling as Phitin Phillies, go right ahead
Frank & Beans TORRE Who? June 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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Yeah, that’s it. Burnett was never an inconsistent pitcher with streaks like this until Posada became his battery mate.
IT’S ALL POSADA’S FAULT!!!!!!!
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I never said it was his Fault, But Franco you know better than most people that Posada is hot head. I never said that he is the reason why he is inconsistent, he is not the reason nor is the Pitching coach.
The Posada and AJ need to get it together so that the Yankees can go further.
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If you don’t believe it, why continue making such a stupid remark?
TRUTH, you can’t provoke me with that tired old BS.
Like I said earlier, I’m just here to remind everyone that Phitins was Betsy. Aside from that, I have no interest in trolling or an internet war with anyone.
Onyewu? The defender? I believe he was injured coming into the WC and didn’t show he was healthy enough so Bradley stopped playing him. He started the first game, and don’t remember if he started the second.
Though your point is well-taken regarding Pavano, the Matsui situation didn’t quite happen that way. There was no full page ad, just a short statement; and the apology/disappointment was addressed toward his teammates, not the fans.
“Due to this injury, I feel very sorry and, at the same time, very disappointed to have let my teammates down,” Matsui said in a statement. “I will do my best to fully recover and return to the field to help my team once again.”
GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Frank & Beans TORRE Who? June 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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THE TRUTH June 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Because stupid people make stupid remarks?
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I just asked a question….. What does it say about the relationship..
In April, Posada caught 4 of AJ’s 5 starts. AJ won two of those games, with the other two being no-decisions. The Yankees won 3 of the 4 games. Cervelli caught the 5th game, which was a win. AJ finished the month with an ERA of 2.43.
In May, Cervelli caught 5 of AJ’s 6 starts. AJ won 2, lost 2, and had one no decision in those games. The Yankees won 3 of the 5. Moeller caught the 6th start, and AJ won. AJ finished the month with an ERA of 3.28.
In June, Moeller caught AJ’s first two starts and both were losses. Posada has caught the last two which also have been losses; and ugly ones at that. He currently has an ERA of 4.83.
It’s possible that Posada helped make the problems AJ has been dealing with worse. But he is not the cause. They worked pretty well together in April. And AJ’s problems in June obviously started without Posada behind the plate. And it’s not like Burnett was so amazing in May. His ERA was higher at the end of the month than at the beginning.
Can we please lay the “Posada can’t catch AJ” garbage to rest now? Please?
Whether we like it or not, Posada would not react well to being a fulltime DH. Look at the funk he was in coming back from the injury and it’s no surprise he hit 2 HR’s the first two days back behind the plate.
If we want the mashing Jorge he’s gotta get the lion’s share of starts behind the plate.
“# Roger(live from Amsterdam) June 26th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Lgy
Where was that american guy who played for Milan?still injured?He played in belgium before he went to Milan
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maybe you’re referring to Charlie Davies? He got into a bad car accident and wasn’t recovered enough to make the squad
just asked a question….. What does it say about the relationship..
But ok then….. If that makes me a stupid person
Then Guilty!!
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You’re one of those that kept harping on the same thing earlier this year and last year. Did you forget what was said about there being no correlation between the catchers and Burnett?
What are you talking about?! I was talking to “….was Phillies Phitins”
I refuse to use your name when referring to him.
He’s got this stupid crusade of reminding everyone of what you did, when it’s clear you didn’t do it because Chad took care of it.
Let’s put it this way, if a million people read this blog, only one ass would’ve come up with the conclusion that “was Phillies Phitins” came up with.
The reason why I’m aggravated at was and number one positive (if that’s the guy who gives you fake praises everytime) is because they both stalk you and then try to engage the rest of the board. Like who wants to talk anything with people like that?
“I believe there was one start where he really got knocked around (the Rays?) but was pretty good that month otherwise.”
He gave up 9 runs (8 earned) against Boston in 4 1/3, and 6 against Tampa in 6 1/3. Two bad outings. He gave up a total of 7 runs (3 earned) in his other 4 starts.
Yeah, I don’t know why people engage in conversation with The Poster who shall Remain Nameless either, but my guess is because they are fooled by him and they actually think he’s serious. Why am I the target of such sickies, lol?:
What I find amusing is you think I’m someone else. And I’m not, I’m only me. And that’s means there’s at least one other person out there who feels the same way. And a stalker.
You ever wonder why Betsy invites such negative attention? Hmm.
How dense are you? I know you and NumberOnePositive are two different people.
The point is you stalk Betsy. And then you want people to talk to you about baseball and soccer? Why would anyone do that when you have a sick internet obsession with Betsy.
The blog was dead for a lot of the time Betsy was away. She drives a ton of the conversation on here.
You people really have serious issues. Probably bullied in HS and now trying to take out your frustrations on other people. Too bad you are such cowards that you do this through an anonymous forum on the internet. f
You people ruin this blog. Not Betsy. Why do you think so many people keep calling you idiots out?
Not sure when the Devil Rays morphed into a patient team. One out in the 6th inning, and they walked 9 times and struck out 7 times with 2 hits. 2 hits, 17 walks, 13 strikeouts and 2 runs in 15.1 innings. That’s a lot of standing around doing nothing. Kennedy’s out after 115 pitches and w/bases loaded. 1-1 tie.
The blog wasn’t dead, it was just quiet without the #1 bridge jumper. We can do without that. If she went away, you wouldn’t have all us “idiots” making noise about her.
Betsy, as always you are too oblivious to see your shortcomings. I feel bad for you that you have to use this blog to get some type of human interaction. The old time regulars are all gone because of people like you. You are a sad, delusional person. Did you enjoy going to your prom with the cousin your Mom paid to take you? Stop posting and hogging the board. Your posts add very little.
Great. So it was quiet, but not dead. Huge difference there.
How about we try something. You go away and we see what happens with the blog.
Realistically your too dumb to find your way back so it will all work out for the best. You don’t have to read Betsy and we don’t have to read your nonsense.
People need to stop worrying about what others are saying & ignore the idiots.
If you ignore somebody long enough they go away.It is simply not possible for someone to hang around when their is no fuel for their fire.
I sense this pitcher’s fear, he’s throwing a lot of pitches 24. I witnessed his pitching with boston, he got no run support, while pitching a gem that they lost.
lol @ Gunderson
# Betsy Was Philly Phitins June 26th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Betsy & Phitins cannot exist in the same place at the same time. Kinda like Clark Kent/Superman of the trolling world.
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A little advice….
If you’re going to start a stupid rumor, at least make it somewhat believable.
Chad-love the “Gunderson”
I think I’ve been patient, but I really should be e-mailing Chad about this stuff.
Ledger_Yankees Yankees clubhouse riveted by us soccer match.
Chad-
And who said beat writers don’t have a sense of humor.
GOOOOAAALl!
“Igawa’s contract is almost done. Zambrano has $45M left on his.
I don’t think he’ll be with the Cubs organization too much longer.”
Cubs will not eat that contract and no team wants a nut job. Cubs are stuck with him.
Doesn’t say much for the players’ taste in sports, lol
They could just release him………….I mean, he’s giving them nothing as it is and he’s a bad presence in the clubhouse.
BryanHoch Yankees clubhouse just erupted in cheers for USA goal
Whhhhhhiiiiiiiiiinnnnneeee Betsy.
Unbelievable, yet true!
I’m so disappointed I can’t watch this game tonight.
I hate Saturday games on Fox.
The U.S is really playing an aggressive game, I love it.
Chad
Very, very funny lineup!
Betsy, I agree, you should email Chad. Because the fake Betsy really has a lot of negative energy.
# Truth June 26th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
“Igawa’s contract is almost done. Zambrano has $45M left on his.
I don’t think he’ll be with the Cubs organization too much longer.”
Cubs will not eat that contract and no team wants a nut job. Cubs are stuck with him.
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They were supposedly stuck with Milton Bradley last year after signing a 3-yr deal.
Somehow, they got rid of him, didn’t they?
“Doesn’t say much for the players’ taste in sports, lol”
Soccer or the Twins/Mets game. Hmmm. Soccer it is. It’s less foreign to those in that clubhouse than seeing Pavano pitching.
# mick June 26th, 2010 at 3:51 pm REPOST
Everyone go away and let the 2 morons talk to each other.
Oh, that would be impossible as they are one and the same.
Better yet let him take over the board and talk to himself.
What fun!
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Now that they are here together.
Not you Doreen.
What a difference between the first & second halves – musta been a Knute Rockne moment for Bradley in the locker room.
Why not Swisher batting 2nd?
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
Erin June 26th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I’m so disappointed I can’t watch this game tonight.
I hate Saturday games on Fox.
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watch the game on tv with the volumn down and turn on the radio, Erin. Makes the game more acceptable. The feeds are in sync….even computer feeds.
I am not a fake Betsy – I’m just calling her out for being Philly Phitins.
Why don’t you go Ph yourself?
As a Yankee fan living in Southern California, I did a double take when I heard Gunderson but also laughed when Vin Scully said Posada would be 29 in August, then corrected himself and said 39. I’ll be there tonight, though.
Frank and Beans, he did not get in Posada’s face. AJ was upset with himself, that’s all. It says nothing at all about their relationship; it says that Po needs a rest
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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Yeah, that’s it. Burnett was never an inconsistent pitcher with streaks like this until Posada became his battery mate.
IT’S ALL POSADA’S FAULT!!!!!!!
Curtis Gunderson, who is Curtis Granderson’s alter ego, is going to continue to smack the ball especially against righties.
If you don’t believe me just ask Curtis Gunnerson.
GF
Why do you bother with these nitwits?
GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
watch the game on tv with the volumn down and turn on the radio, Erin. Makes the game more acceptable. The feeds are in sync….even computer feeds.
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GB-that’s a good idea. I’ll keep that in mind for future FOX games-I did actually make plans for tonight though (which I just might have cancelled if I was going to get the game LOL).
I would have to watch on the computer though since the game I’ll be getting on Fox is CWS/Cubs.
Posada really needs 3 out of 4 days off? He could have rested tomorrow….
I would love to listen to Scully on my MLB app and watch the game on mute but unfortunately the app feed is about 45 seconds slow.
Honestly I’m considering skipping the TV altogether.
I hate Granderson batting 2nd. Girardi should just leave the lineup the way it always is with Swish 2nd and deal with the lefties in the bullpen later. If he needs to move up a lefty then bat Gardner there.
Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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It says that Posada is gettin a day off after catching a night game and catching Pettitte tomorrow and adding a little extra offense against a good pitcher.
Day game after a night game for Posada.
I don’t buy King’s column that the Dodgers series was not in Yankee Stadium because FOX wanted to show the Red Sox face Manny at Fenway.
They could have always played the Sox/Dodgers series in May for the first interleague weekend. There is no rule that it has to be the “natural rivalry” in the first matchup… Dodgers actually played the Tigers at home that weekend. We played the Phillies last year in the first series, not the Mets.
Com’on USA, keep pushing!
NumberOnePositivePosterInTheUniverse June 26th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Betsy, I agree, you should email Chad. Because the fake Betsy really has a lot of negative energy
Yep, bad mojo. Oooooh.
Considering Kershaw is a good young lefty who the Yanks have never seen before they will need all the bats in the lineup tomorrow. It makes sense to play Posada tomorrow and rest him today. Also changing AJ’s catcher to try and find something that works makes sense.
Burnett wasn’t pitching any better with Cervelli catching. It’s Burnett/the pitcher, not the catcher. Idiots that keep thinking this would be better off reading a book and leave the computers off.
Ban this board when the 2 nerds are on.
Andy loves working with Jorge anyway, so no need to break that up. Also need his bat against their ace tomorrow.
mick, who is the second?
However, the common feeling among clubs who are active scouting in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela say the talent pool doesn’t include a player like (Gary) Sanchez and overall lacks the depth of recent years.
“It’s a very down year talent wise,” a baseball official said. “There are teams that are going to overpay to pay the better players who aren’t that good. The prices people are asking for are ridiculous.”
The Yankees aren’t poised to drop $3 million on a player, but that doesn’t mean they are ignoring this year’s class.
There is a belief among scouts in Latin America that the Yankees already have agreed on a deal with Javier Pimental, a shortstop from the Dominican. And they like power-hitting third baseman Elvis Sanchez, who has been working out in Tampa.
Several teams have linked Roughned Odor, a shortstop from Venezuela, to the Yankees, but they have heard that he is seeking in the $1.8 million area and that is far too rich for the Yankees for the 5-foot-11, 160-pounder, who projects as a possible second baseman due to an average arm.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....LbRg7cCM/1
the drama of this game.
Dustin Pedroia to DL
fracture in left foot
http://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/17115058427
Pedroia on DL with fracture. Severity not known. No timetable.
Red Sox are in a bit of doo doo.
Bill Hall is their only backup infielder and he’s below average defensively there (as well as below average offensively).
They will be scrambling for another infielder asap. I’m sure they’ll have a fill-in for tonight/tomorrow and will make a signing or trade very soon.
With the injuries to their OF, Hall had been playing a ton as it is.
Tough break for the Sox.
Betsy, holy caca! That’s a big hit for the Sox.
BD, that does suck for them. However, everyone they bring up seems to contrbute…………Obviously that person won’t be Pedroia, but I’m not going to mourn for them – they’ll probably be fine
Wow, big loss for the Sox. I feel so bad for them.
The US will win this. Ghana looks tired
That giant sucking sound you just heard was the sound of Sox season going down the drain.
Roger, the US looks a bit tired too. But we can take them!
I don’t think so, MTU………..
Yeah, facing their upcoming brutal road schedule without their spark plug will be the nail in the coffin. I expect a Tampa-like swoon.
Betsy,
this loss will be far greater to the team than any of the OF.
they did strike gold (or at least bronze) with Nava and McDonald but the in-house options to replace Pedroia are not great.
I assume they will call up Gil Velazquez or Angel Sanchez to hopefully play decent 2b defense for them, and sacrifice the offense.
if Pedroia is going to be out 4+ weeks, I’d be shocked if they don’t go outside the org via trade or a signing.
I’d venture to say that losing Pedroia is a worst case scenario for Boston (i.e. the toughest loss to accommodate and make up for).
Regardless of who the catcher is or what pitches he calls, the man on the mound needs to have command of the strike zone. Good pitchers will battle their way out of trouble when their best pitches aren’t quite working for them in the early innings.
Props to Phil Hughes for learning this in his young career.
That sucked!
GREAT nod to Mr. Scully, Chad! Good stuff!
This is tough for the USA now.
Oh boy…
Good try by us. =/
Betsy-
This couldn’t have come at a worse time. Right at the start of one of the toughest stretches the Sox have to face.
Their offense has been a bright spot.
Pedroia is going to be out a minimum of 3 weeks if he has a broken foot.
And w/o his production and leadership they’re offense is going to only get worse.
Their pitching has been inconsistent outside of Lester and Buch.
I would say they will be looking up at the rest of the field in a few weeks.
Very bad news for them. Very bad.
Very good news for us.
Still some time to make this up
Betsy, you make an excellent, excellent point, the red sox do seem to have a deep system. They get surprised by a lot of their minor leaguers they call up, meaning they always find a way to contribute.
The USA has no business losing this game.
Terrible finishing the whole game and once again just awful, awful defending right out of the gate.
The USA defenders should be embarrassed after this WC. It is not even like they are being outplayed. Just stupid mistakes.
BD, I don’t want to speculate as to how long Pedroia will be out, but no question it’s a huge blow if he’s out for awhile. I was being somewhat facetious because this is not a loss to be taken lightly; it’s just frustrating that they bring up these guys who have all been huge contributors. I still think they’ll be right in the thick of things until the bitter end…….
MikeSilvermanBB it’s the ‘navicular’ bone for pedroia, angel sanchez up from pawt
This world cup game is exhausting!!!
Pedroia with a broken foot – Boston can’t catch a break this year (pun intended).
They have had a lot of injuries – Cameron, Ellsbury, Drew, now Pedroia. Beckett, DiceK, Wakefield…I’m sure they didn’t intend to rely on the likes of McDonald, Hall, and Hermida to carry them thru.
As Jeter has pointed out time and again, no one feels sorry for you because you’re beat up. However, the Red Sox remain a tough team, with some gamers. Not saying that I’m afraid of the mighty Red Sox, just saying they’re that depsite all of this, they are still in the hunt.
Pavano shut out the Mets today – talk about frustrating. Cash was right about him being a very good pitcher, but what a nightmare his stint here was. HOw annoying that he’s turned things around in Minny.
Buchholz and Lester go the next 2 days against the weak-hitting Giants…. Sox will be fine.
Their schedule is not that brutal either… 6 games with Tampa and Baltimore at home. Tampa is in free-fall mode. Then Toronto/Tampa on the road before the ASB, which could be dicey– but remember, they swept Tampa and Toronto on the road earlier this year.
Sox don’t have nearly the same home/road splits on offense that they did last year. They have actually killed it on the road against good teams lately.
I don’t think a fracture is the same thing as a break……..what the heck is the navicular bone?
Rishi, it is still good. I love the patriotism everywhere you go.
Joe, I don’t wish injury on any team……….That said, the Yanks have had their own share, so I haven’t spent any time feeling bad for the Sox.
“it’s the ‘navicular’ bone for pedroia”
I actually know what that is! It’s around the middle of the foot.
If the Twins get Lee, they will be a scary 1-2-3 with Lee-Liriano-Pavano.
But I don’t want him on the Mets either… ugh. Hope some team like St. Louis will trade for him.
Joe-
Losing the Elf is like a warship having a huge hole blown in her side.
It would not surprise me if this doesn’t sink them.
At some point too much is enough.
“Betsy, you make an excellent, excellent point, the red sox do seem to have a deep system. ”
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on the contrary, the Sox do not have a deep system with MLB ready guys.
Their best prospects are in AA or lower.
McDonald and Nava have done respectable as fill-ins… but it’s akin to the Yanks getting production from a guy like Thames or Randy Winn.
I expect regression from both of those guys as the season wears on and pitchers identify their weaknesses – and make no mistake – if they didn’t have some weaknesses they probably wouldn’t have been no-names for so long.
they really are best suited as backup/situational players.
Betsy-
It is one of the bones at the top of the instep.
“Hope some team like St. Louis will trade for him.”
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I don’t.
Wainwright, Carpenter, Lee would be downright filthy.
BD keep in mind that I did not say the Sox have an excellent farm system. Please ignore that trolll……..
PDX, I can’t believe Pavano is being included in the same sentence that has the words “scary pitcher”, some things come full-circle I guess.
Pavano in his last 2 starts has thrown 2 complete games on the road against Halladay and Santana
Not bad. He’s a very good pitcher, just wasn’t here.
BD, yeah – but that wouldn’t effect the Yanks until the WS. The Cards were supposed to have a nasty rotation last year and they got ousted in the first round. I do not want Lee on the Mets – because I HATE the Mets. If he goes to the Twins, whatever – what can you do. I never even heard speculation that he goes to the Cards. I hate the Ms for being so bad that they have to trade him at all.
MTU, thanks
Betsy, but you did imply that by saying everyone they bring up contributes, isn’t that the definition of a good farm system? I don’t like saying positive things about the sox either, but that’s the truth – no?
Betsy,
I know. I understood what you said – they did do well in getting production from their injury fill-ins so far.
I didn’t realize it was a troll I was replying to
If the us could win this game..and the next game…they will meet brazil or the netherlands.I wanne see that happening!
Yeah, this idiot is stalking me -
You are neglecting that the Sox play a 4-game vs. Texas & then go on a 10-game West Coast swing after the stretch you listed.
It’s a tough stretch for a team missing their heart.
me too, roger.
Sox upcoming schedule
@ SF
vs. TB
vs. BAL
@ TB
@ TOR
all-star break
4 vs. Texas
3 @ Oakland
4 @ Seattle
3 @ Anaheim
3 vs. Detroit
4 vs. Cleveland
4 @ Yankees
3 @ Toronto
3 @ Texas
3 vs. Anaheim
3 vs. Toronto
Seattle/Bal at home
3 @ Tampa
Betsy, as soon as you say “stalking” back comes Phitins.
Betsy,
As far as I’m concerned, there are no real frontrunners for Lee.
rumors this early are generally media constructs to get people excited or are started when a writer throws out a possible scenario just for fun.
I’d prefer, of course, that he went to the NL but I think the Cardinals are the team to beat in the NL already. If they did add Lee, it would be quite a team.
I’ll worry about it if/when it’s time to worry about it… which isn’t for a while
Betsy – Fracture = break. The navicular is around the mid-foot. He ain’t gonna be doin’ much runnin’ for a while…
MTU – Oh, I hear you. I guess we’ll find out how important he is to the Sox.
Ghana’s goalkeeper is pretty good.
Joe-
Very.
BD, good points. Ken Rosenthal thinks Lee might be gone as soon as he throws his last pitch on Tuesday, but I don’t see why the M’s would be in a rush.
Joe, thanks!
So a fracture is just a kinder way of saying break?
They’re crying on Sons of Sam Horn.
That’s a pretty tough schedule for the Sox until the break (outside of BAL, although they do have a losing record against them) and they’ve had trouble with Texas the last couple of years.
The interleague games may have cooled off the bats and timing of Ortiz unless a fresh supply of “milkshakes” arrives from the D.R.
Lester and Buchholz are the only reliable starters for the Socks and Francona has been using Daniel Bard like he attended the Joe Torre Academy of Bullpen Burnout.
id love to see Lee traded asap…send him to the NL so we dont have to face him next week
Betsy-
No. A fracture is not necessarily a break. A hairline fracture, for instance, does not involve any displacement of the bone structure.
On the other hand, a fracture, at least the way I have always understood it, involves displacement of the broken portions to one degree or another.
In that sense, a break may be deemed worse than a fracture but not always.
Betsy, I believe so.
The loss and/or ineffectiveness of Josh Beckett is also starting to wear on the Sox.
Tim Wakefield has done ok at best filling in. Daisuke is a total crapshoot but of the games I’ve seen, he’s lucky he hasn’t gotten clobbered more often.
Losing an innings eater like Beckett has hurt the rotation and the bullpen, who are starting to tire.
Tough injuries thus far for the Sox.
But boy genius Theo Epstein and the front office didn’t exactly plan well for this.
Boof Bonser was their long man / extra starter??
Bill Hall as their utility infielder??
When your upper minors lack any clear MLB ready players, they probably should have made a couple more signings or ponied up a little more cash to sign better backups.
MTU (aka GBURL) June 26th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Joe-
Losing the Elf is like a warship having a huge hole blown in her side.
It would not surprise me if this doesn’t sink them.
At some point too much is enough.
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More like they sprung a leak in their dingy and will try patching it with Silly Putty.
MTU, that sounds like a lot of if logic there, and I still don’t know the definition. I just looked it up and it read this way:
Fracture: A break in bone or cartilage. Although usually the result of trauma, a fracture can be caused by an acquired disease of bone such as osteoporosis or by abnormal formation of bone in a disease such as osteogenesis imperfecta (“brittle bone disease”). Fractures are classified according to their character and location as, for example, a greenstick fracture of the radius.
The Phillies should trade back the prospects (and perhaps a little more) that they got for Lee and admit they made a mistake trading him in the first place
Aside from day after a nite game. Seems I remember Po taking one off his foot again last nite. Could be a little sore again. Maybe not. If he is sore you don’t want him moving around favoring a limb, he could hurt himself more seriously.
BD-
In all fairness. The Sox have been snakebit when it comes to injuries this season.
Hit harder than most and to key players.
I am not sure any team could absorb that.
JMO.
MTU, Joe said that a fracture = break……..
GB-
OK. Shoot me. I was a bit off on the size.
Boston hasn’t been hit any harder than NYYs. They just have a lot of old players.
Anyway, I guess it’s semantics; it’s not a good injury and Pedroia will be out at least 2 weeks
Man, I hate seeing the US lose
MTU,
I agree, but they still weren’t in a good position to absorb any injuries, IMO.
Having a decent bench and/or a few MLB ready vets or prospects in the upper minors is one of the luxuries a big-market team can afford.
For a small-market team, injuries can generally be devastating, because they couldn’t afford to spend on the bench or upper minors.
There’s really no excuse for the Sox. just poor planning, IMO, on top of the amount of injuries they’ve had to deal with.
They’re stuck going out to shop for an OF, an IF, and bullpen help now
(of course, I think the Yanks are too
)
Betsy, I think I said it, too. Holy crap, the US just had a huge shot there
Betsy-
Joe is a Physician. I am not. If he says it then that’s correct.
The point is that it isn’t good.
The USA did so awesome. Ghana’s goalkeeper was impressive.
I’m sorry you guys lost but what a great game to watch
I’m confused. Why does some something think that Betsy was Phitin? How is that even a thought?
And isn’t NumberOnePositive fan the one that was stalking Betsy?
A non displaced fracture. 4-6 weeks in a cast?
Gordon Endes on ESPN says research on that type of injury shows about 86% of cases recover in 6 weeks.
Take that for what it’s worth. But yeah, this is no surprise. You only had to see the injury and see what they said afterward to know he wasn’t coming back anytime soon.
m – stalking? how so?
Very interesting stuff, re: Cashman/Torre
“Joe’s legacy as a Yankee is safe and secure,” Cashman said Friday. “He was great here. We did great things together. No doubt he should have his day here someday.”
Beyond that, Cashman wouldn’t comment on anything regarding Torre, but others in the organization make it clear that the GM was hurt badly by the book’s portrayal of him as someone who betrayed Torre in the final days of his tenure as manager.
“Cash was the one who convinced (the Steinbrenner brothers) to make Joe an offer,” one Yankee source said Friday. “He can’t understand why Joe painted him as the bad guy. He’s like (Derek) Jeter, he considered Joe a father figure, too.”
Torre, meanwhile, insists that Cashman “took things in the book the wrong way,” as he said a couple of days ago.
And then there is Stottlemyre’s sense that Cashman wanted to do things his way as he gained more power over the last several years.
“The biggest change I saw during my time there was in Cashman, not in Torre,” Stottlemyre said. “The two of them used to have such a positive link for so long. But at some point Cashman started to do things his way.”
Cashman doesn’t deny that, saying he felt the need to be more pro-active when the Yankees stopped winning championships. He admits to convincing Stottlemyre to change the club’s approach to pitching to the Red Sox in 2005, based on statistics that showed Boston’s hitters had more success against the Yankees than other teams.
“I’ll never apologize for trying to make us better,” Cashman said Friday.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z0rzlj44bF
Because she disappeared when he came around and she was posting as Phitins to “punish” the board because people were picking on her for her shxtty bridge jumper attitude.
That’s as plain as I can put it. I really believe they were one and the same.
And I’m not the same person as NumberOne – she just seems to draw negative attention.
Are you the one with the fake praise for everything Betsy says?
A simple yes or no will do.
Does anybody else think it’s a bit spooky that Posada broke his foot and now Pedroia does ?
Amazing turn of events, or is this more common than I think during the course of a season ?
6 weeks is a long time in the AL East, they could be in 4th place by then.
Boston really doesn’t have near-ready players in the system to patch the infield, outfield and pitching. They have to bite the bullet or strip some of their better young talent to patch things up. It’s either that option or take on huge long term salaries for low B grade level prospects.
I believe the immutable laws of the universe say a major injury to a Yankee starter is crippling while a major injury to a Yankee rival is something the rival can absorb and they’ll be fine and in it to the end…
Um, I didn’t confuse the two of you. Pay attn to something other than Betsy!
And your logic fails on so many levels.
m June 26th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Are you the one with the fake praise for everything Betsy says?
A simple yes or no will do
Me? Nope.
““I’ll never apologize for trying to make us better,” Cashman said Friday.
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Cashman gets the quote of the day today.
“They were supposedly stuck with Milton Bradley last year after signing a 3-yr deal.
Somehow, they got rid of him, didn’t they?”
Bradley was traded for Silva in an exchange of big contracts.
What team can the Cubs trade a head case to with 45 million owed to him. Cubs would have to take back someone who is owed big bucks.
Um, again I wasn’t talking to you! The other one!
Torre didn’t see it as Cashman trying to make the team better, he saw it as Cashman trying to take power away from Torre and mold the team his way because Torre was getting too much credit….
# Alex June 26th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Pavano in his last 2 starts has thrown 2 complete games on the road against Halladay and Santana
Not bad. He’s a very good pitcher, just wasn’t here.
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As much as I hated Pavano when he was with the Yankees, I’ve since mellowed on him a bit. I think he just went through a stretch where he struggled to stay healthy. I think many of us have gone through similar stretches. I know I did in the last year.
Maybe he’s just finally healthy, both physically AND mentally.
It sounds like Keebler’s injury is at least as bad as Posada’s. Fortunately for Pedroia, a second baseman doesn’t have to get up and down so often so he won’t be as limited when he returns as Jorge was. The interesting thing will be seeing how it affects his hitting. Keebler was white hot at the plate when he got hurt. As we saw with Jorge, it took about two weeks for him to get his batting eye back after he returned.
Have to get 1 or 2 central defenders that can actually play defense in the next 4 years.
Terrible job by the USA defense this entire WC. Completely undisciplined and just stupid mistake after stupid mistake.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if you don’t have a head for the game and instincts for the game you will continue to get burned.
Clarke needs to go back little league and relearn the fundamentals. He let his team down in a huge way not once but twice just 5 minutes into the game.
Yeah, send Clark to AAA!!! Trade Bradley for a bag of balls!!
Another thing to think about re: Pedroia’s injury.
Let’s say he has to spend 6 weeks in a cast.
How much more time will it take to get him back to playing condition.
Remember that his foot and possibly calf will have to be immobilized.
This will lead to a lot of stiffness and possibly some muscular atrophy.
In simple terms, It’s gonna take a lot longer than 6 weeks for him to return. That might just be the healing time and does not take into account rehab time.
“Torre didn’t see it as Cashman trying to make the team better, he saw it as Cashman trying to take power away from Torre and mold the team his way because Torre was getting too much credit.”
I’m not so sure about that, but it’s obvious that some personal stuff went down and it’s going to take some others not personally involved in this falling out to help both sides move closer together towards some resolvement.
Why shouldn’t the GM exercise his executive powers? I mean, isn’t that his job?
It’s good to have at least one major sport the USA doesn’t dominate.
“Maybe he’s just finally healthy, both physically AND mentally.”
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perhaps. I wish Pavano was a little more outspoken and/or apologetic though.
Matsui took out a full page ad apologizing to fans when he broke his wrist (diving for a ball).
Obviously, that is rare, but if Pavano had simply said something and/or made every effort to show that he could not play, it would have gone a long way.
If nothing else, it kind of validates what the Yankees scouts saw in Pavano when they signed him. It really wasn’t the Yankees fault he was hurt and for that, they don’t deserve as much of the criticism as they got while he was here.
Justin Upton>>his brother. 1-1 game in TB
Lgy
To be fair. I think the US did a great job and i didn’t expected them to come this far
http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=5331815
So much for that “laser show and then some” on Thursday night.
BJ Upton is still only 25. He has time to turn it around. Seems like he’s been in the league forever already though.
Tampa probably pushed him through the system a little bit too fast for his own good and likely retarded his development some.
I have also been amazed watching this WC at how many player’s have no instincts with the ball around the net.
I can’t remember the last time seeing some many player’s so passive and so in between when attacking the net.
A soccer net is huge. The attacker always has a large advantage compared to the goalie.
Altidore is a promising attacker as someone to play off of. He is very strong and wins a ton of balls. If I am Bradley, I take one or 2 player’s under my wing and just pound into their head how to attack the goal.
Just create a ton of scenario’s and drills and drill that 2nd instinct about attacking the net. Maybe he should call Kevin Long in. He is great at creating drills
I wonder how much the Sox would be willing to give up for Ramiro Pena
GB, I think that’s true. We’ve lost : Granderson, Posada, Johnson – not to mention Swisher was hurt for awhile and Alex isn’t really healthy.
Roger,
You don’t think they should have made it out of their group?
It is not so much to me that they lost, but how. They made the same exact mistakes on defense every single game.
BD-
I’d only do it for Lester. Boston tax you know.
M, I have no idea why this troll is using that name and he who shall be nameless continues to stalk me.
I explained it upthread, Phitins, er Betsy.
“We’ve lost : Granderson, Posada, Johnson – not to mention Swisher was hurt for awhile and Alex isn’t really healthy.”
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Aceves is a huge loss also, IMO.
And the Yankees still get injury points for Pavano until 2012.
And I’m not a troll. My presence is not to provoke but to remind.
Joe, I posted that earlier and I also thought it was interesting. I love Cash’s quote – and he’s right, he should never apologize for trying to make the team better. If Joe couldn’t handle it, too bad. I love Mel – it seems like he had a hard time grasping that as well.
Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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Yeah, that’s it. Burnett was never an inconsistent pitcher with streaks like this until Posada became his battery mate.
IT’S ALL POSADA’S FAULT!!!!!!!
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I never said it was his Fault, But Franco you know better than most people that Posada is hot head. I never said that he is the reason why he is inconsistent, he is not the reason nor is the Pitching coach.
The Posada and AJ need to get it together so that the Yankees can go further.
Look, clown – if you want to think I was that moron trolling as Phitin Phillies, go right ahead. I don’t care if you believe me or not, but I have a life and I had no reason to try and get “revenge” on anyone here.
I hope AJ watched not just what CC did last night, but how he did it. AJ knows he hasn’t been right. CC gave him a recipe last night. AJ needs to try to cook up a better start tonight.
CC was working in off-speed pitches brilliantly and kept the Dodgers off balance all game.
It isn’t going to be enough to overpower this team with 4-seamers.
AJ really needs to have his curveball working tonight, along with some well-placed 2-seamers.
I’ve given up on expecting any changeups from him.
Remind? Doesn’t your mommy know your medication schedule?
I can’t forgive Pavano for lying about his car accident………..the fact that Cash considered bringing him back, but didn’t because he knew the players would not handle it well (and the fans, but mostly the players) says something. The Yankee players welcomed Javy back despite his struggles in 2004 because they knew he was hurt and he gave it his best. Clearly that is not how they felt about Pavano.
I never said it was his Fault, But Franco you know better than most people that Posada is hot head. I never said that he is the reason why he is inconsistent, he is not the reason nor is the Pitching coach.
The Posada and AJ need to get it together so that the Yankees can go further.
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Burnett and Posada have worked together before and produced good results.
The fans simply choose to ignore them and focus on Burnett’s bad ones, which come more often than they should with his talent and experience.
BD, I forgot about Ace – brutal loss. Even if he comes back, I’m not about to rely on him. Then again, I wasn’t relying on him coming into the season
AJ didn’t have his curve in ST and he hasn’t had it all season – odd for him, but maybe it’s just one of those years.
M, don’t even bother with this guy…….
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Look, clown – if you want to think I was that moron trolling as Phitin Phillies, go right ahead
ok, thanks, I will continue to think that.
Lgy
they had a easy group but i never thought they would be first in that group. And they could have won this game but I still think they should be proud
So who are you pulling for now with the US out of it? I like the Spanish team, they play with a lot of style.
Roger,
I am also venting. They should be proud of winning their group, but at the same time the way they lost was disappointing.
They had so many opportunities to score in this game and so many close misses.
Today’s World Cup just goes to show, whether it’s soccer, football, baseball or any other sport, you can’t win it all w/a mediocre defense.
2 days in a row and 2 imposters. Not too shabby.
As I pointed out yesterday you have:
1. Acne
2. Live in your parent’s basement
3. Never get laid.
Those are the only possible excuses you could have for having nothing better to do then impersonate somebody on the internet.
There is only one TRUTH and he is way more handsome and successful then you will ever be.
And he doesn’t have acne.
Or live in his parent’s basement.
But please, proceed.
So Pavano beat Doc and Santana in the same week? Gotta be the moustache.
Frank & Beans TORRE Who? June 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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Yeah, that’s it. Burnett was never an inconsistent pitcher with streaks like this until Posada became his battery mate.
IT’S ALL POSADA’S FAULT!!!!!!!
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I never said it was his Fault, But Franco you know better than most people that Posada is hot head. I never said that he is the reason why he is inconsistent, he is not the reason nor is the Pitching coach.
The Posada and AJ need to get it together so that the Yankees can go further.
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If you don’t believe it, why continue making such a stupid remark?
Because stupid people make stupid remarks?
Lgy
Where was that american guy who played for Milan?still injured?He played in belgium before he went to Milan
TRUTH, you can’t provoke me with that tired old BS.
Like I said earlier, I’m just here to remind everyone that Phitins was Betsy. Aside from that, I have no interest in trolling or an internet war with anyone.
Say whatever you please.
Betsy Was Philly Phitins-
I wasn’t even talking to you. But if you are sensitive about your acne, I guess I understand.
Like I said, proceed.
Roger,
Onyewu? The defender? I believe he was injured coming into the WC and didn’t show he was healthy enough so Bradley stopped playing him. He started the first game, and don’t remember if he started the second.
BD -
Though your point is well-taken regarding Pavano, the Matsui situation didn’t quite happen that way. There was no full page ad, just a short statement; and the apology/disappointment was addressed toward his teammates, not the fans.
“Due to this injury, I feel very sorry and, at the same time, very disappointed to have let my teammates down,” Matsui said in a statement. “I will do my best to fully recover and return to the field to help my team once again.”
GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Frank & Beans TORRE Who? June 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Frank & Beans Lets Beat TORRE down June 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What does cervelli starting say about Posadas ability to catch AJ. Specially since AJ got in Posadas face in Arizona
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THE TRUTH June 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Because stupid people make stupid remarks?
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I just asked a question….. What does it say about the relationship..
But ok then….. If that makes me a stupid person
Then Guilty!!
Pheilhaber should have been in from the start.
Remember there are no stupid questions only stupid people.
I kid I kid.
Um. Chad already took care of the person impersonating Phitin.
Why continue the crusade?
Yes that guy. Saw him play in belgium. Good defender. Too bad he was injured. They could have used him
In April, Posada caught 4 of AJ’s 5 starts. AJ won two of those games, with the other two being no-decisions. The Yankees won 3 of the 4 games. Cervelli caught the 5th game, which was a win. AJ finished the month with an ERA of 2.43.
In May, Cervelli caught 5 of AJ’s 6 starts. AJ won 2, lost 2, and had one no decision in those games. The Yankees won 3 of the 5. Moeller caught the 6th start, and AJ won. AJ finished the month with an ERA of 3.28.
In June, Moeller caught AJ’s first two starts and both were losses. Posada has caught the last two which also have been losses; and ugly ones at that. He currently has an ERA of 4.83.
It’s possible that Posada helped make the problems AJ has been dealing with worse. But he is not the cause. They worked pretty well together in April. And AJ’s problems in June obviously started without Posada behind the plate. And it’s not like Burnett was so amazing in May. His ERA was higher at the end of the month than at the beginning.
Can we please lay the “Posada can’t catch AJ” garbage to rest now? Please?
Whether we like it or not, Posada would not react well to being a fulltime DH. Look at the funk he was in coming back from the injury and it’s no surprise he hit 2 HR’s the first two days back behind the plate.
If we want the mashing Jorge he’s gotta get the lion’s share of starts behind the plate.
“# Roger(live from Amsterdam) June 26th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Lgy
Where was that american guy who played for Milan?still injured?He played in belgium before he went to Milan
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maybe you’re referring to Charlie Davies? He got into a bad car accident and wasn’t recovered enough to make the squad
M, do you really believe I was that stupid Phillies troll?
just asked a question….. What does it say about the relationship..
But ok then….. If that makes me a stupid person
Then Guilty!!
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You’re one of those that kept harping on the same thing earlier this year and last year. Did you forget what was said about there being no correlation between the catchers and Burnett?
Burnett was actually pretty good in May.
I believe there was one start where he really got knocked around (the Rays?) but was pretty good that month otherwise.
which AJ will show up tonight?
Betsy (the real one),
What are you talking about?! I was talking to “….was Phillies Phitins”
I refuse to use your name when referring to him.
He’s got this stupid crusade of reminding everyone of what you did, when it’s clear you didn’t do it because Chad took care of it.
Let’s put it this way, if a million people read this blog, only one ass would’ve come up with the conclusion that “was Phillies Phitins” came up with.
The reason why I’m aggravated at was and number one positive (if that’s the guy who gives you fake praises everytime) is because they both stalk you and then try to engage the rest of the board. Like who wants to talk anything with people like that?
Cervelli is catching, AJ throws 8 scoreless innings
“I believe there was one start where he really got knocked around (the Rays?) but was pretty good that month otherwise.”
He gave up 9 runs (8 earned) against Boston in 4 1/3, and 6 against Tampa in 6 1/3. Two bad outings. He gave up a total of 7 runs (3 earned) in his other 4 starts.
M, sorry for the confusion!
Yeah, I don’t know why people engage in conversation with The Poster who shall Remain Nameless either, but my guess is because they are fooled by him and they actually think he’s serious. Why am I the target of such sickies, lol?:
What I find amusing is you think I’m someone else. And I’m not, I’m only me. And that’s means there’s at least one other person out there who feels the same way. And a stalker.
You ever wonder why Betsy invites such negative attention? Hmm.
This blog is so much better when not being clogged by Betsy.
Stop hogging the conversation. IRL, you would be shunned. Sadly we can’t silence your posts on here.
How dense are you? I know you and NumberOnePositive are two different people.
The point is you stalk Betsy. And then you want people to talk to you about baseball and soccer? Why would anyone do that when you have a sick internet obsession with Betsy.
IPK not helping out his buddy Phil. 3 walks to load the bases. 1 out.
Gee, my feelings are hurt because you don’t want to play with me.
The blog was dead for a lot of the time Betsy was away. She drives a ton of the conversation on here.
You people really have serious issues. Probably bullied in HS and now trying to take out your frustrations on other people. Too bad you are such cowards that you do this through an anonymous forum on the internet. f
You people ruin this blog. Not Betsy. Why do you think so many people keep calling you idiots out?
Not sure when the Devil Rays morphed into a patient team. One out in the 6th inning, and they walked 9 times and struck out 7 times with 2 hits. 2 hits, 17 walks, 13 strikeouts and 2 runs in 15.1 innings. That’s a lot of standing around doing nothing. Kennedy’s out after 115 pitches and w/bases loaded. 1-1 tie.
If the Rays are going to win, I want Price to get it – so that Buccholz won’t be the first/only AL pitcher at 11 wins, lol
Awww. Poor thing. You want a piece of candy to make you feel better?
Reliever gave up a 2 run single. And another single to load the bases. IPK had a nice 2-hitter going until he lost it this inning. Too bad.
LGY, thanks! It’s really amazing how many sickos there are out there; their posts really say more about them than it does about me or anyone else.
The blog wasn’t dead, it was just quiet without the #1 bridge jumper. We can do without that. If she went away, you wouldn’t have all us “idiots” making noise about her.
And another reason the blog was quiet was she was dominating threads as Phitins.
CR9 was Philly Phitins. And now he is hunting down Trisha to kill and eat her.
Betsy, as always you are too oblivious to see your shortcomings. I feel bad for you that you have to use this blog to get some type of human interaction. The old time regulars are all gone because of people like you. You are a sad, delusional person. Did you enjoy going to your prom with the cousin your Mom paid to take you? Stop posting and hogging the board. Your posts add very little.
This just doesn’t have the same ring.
Betsy Was Philly Phitins,
Are you secretely Miggs extracting your revenge on Betsy?
Great. So it was quiet, but not dead. Huge difference there.
How about we try something. You go away and we see what happens with the blog.
Realistically your too dumb to find your way back so it will all work out for the best. You don’t have to read Betsy and we don’t have to read your nonsense.
Sound good?
No, I’m not. But, gee, there seem to be an awful lot of ppl who have a problem with her, eh?
Betsy Was Philly Phitins :
Why such enjoyment being an idiot??
People need to stop worrying about what others are saying & ignore the idiots.
If you ignore somebody long enough they go away.It is simply not possible for someone to hang around when their is no fuel for their fire.
beantown worried about Pedroia and the effect it will have on the team with him out. He was already nursing a sore knee.
This is much better. And true.
“CR9 was Philly Phitins. And now he is hunting down Trisha to kill and eat her.”
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lol
I should refrain from comment but i did chuckle when i read that.
What are the chances that we can go into the All Star break up 5 games? I say pretty strong…
New Post. And I’ll tell ya what, I’ll give it a rest for now and leave that post free of this.
LOL I’ll bet it is him……..I will withhold comment on Miggs, but talk about obsessed.
You would lose that bet. Many ppl don’t like you.
I sense this pitcher’s fear, he’s throwing a lot of pitches 24. I witnessed his pitching with boston, he got no run support, while pitching a gem that they lost.