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Moseley pulled in Scranton

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 28, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just got a text from Donnie Collins.

Dustin Moseley had been pulled from his start in Scranton. Pure speculation, but it could be a sign of a call-up.

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136 Responses to “Moseley pulled in Scranton”

  1. Rishi June 28th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    in whose spot?

  2. m June 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Gotta be Logan or Joba. :P

  3. Vito June 28th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Apparently he has an opt out clause on the 1st, guess they want to keep him, wonder who it is for…

  4. YankFanCA June 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Chan Ho Must Go

  5. NumberOnePositivePosterInTheUniverse June 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Moseley got lit up in ST, he’s getting lit up in the minors, he’ll get lit up in the majors. I’d rather see Igawa at this point.

  6. blackaccord June 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    minor league starter with a 4-4 record and 4.21 ERA.. why would we need him? Is AJ hurt ?

  7. Hey Kelvin says June 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    He had to be called up or traded before thursday, its an ‘clause’ in his contract.

  8. ron June 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Vmart for the rs has a thumb injury.The top 2 catchers in AAA for the red sox are on the minor league disabled list with thumb injuries.

    Tough spot they are in,they will probably play vmart with the injury.

  9. Hey Kelvin says June 28th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    No one is hurt “Blackaccord”.

  10. LGY June 28th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    “The only guy the Yanks have locked up early and through his arb yrs is Cano.”

    ————————

    champ,

    Not arguing with the point that the Yankees have the luxury of being able to afford not locking up young studs.

    But, other than Cano, who else have they had that merited being locked up long term?

  11. V Torch June 28th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    “But, other than Cano, who else have they had that merited being locked up long term?”

    Wang.

  12. whatever June 28th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Is Melancon ever going to be given an extended chance?

  13. LGY June 28th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    “Wang”

    ———————–

    He had serious injury concerns as well as questions about whether his stuff would hold up long term.

    It was smart not to lock him up and it worked out quite well.

  14. ron June 28th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Say what you wan’t about arod but he makes the rookies feel like a part of the team like no other player i have ever seen.

    For a person who is financially so far above many players it is very refreshing too see.

  15. Chris June 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Callup? OK, as long as it’s not to the Yanks. Just what they need: another 28 year old who can barely pitch in AAA, and who has already laid a pretty big egg in the majors.

  16. stuckey June 28th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    “Thinking that the Yankees can come back from a five run lead is not “fantastical” considering that it happens regularly.”

    Not in the post-season it doesn’t.

    Remember, this is the best 8 teams in the league. Giving up a 5 run lead is unusual in the postseason.

    And it’s FURTHER speculating that the bullpen, even if well rested, was closing the door on a play-off team in their home park.

    “Again, my statement was tempered with “Its highly speculative…” but you continue to ignore it.”

    I’m not ignoring. I’m saying it doesn’t have much value in THIS particular discussion.

    “Some one essentially made a point, basically in passing, that one could make an argument (meaning that one could say, assert, not even prove) that a battered bullpen played a PART or CONTRIBUTED to the Yankees playoff failures in 2004-2007.”

    But one CAN’T make that argument. THAT’s the point.

    You’re arguing backwards. You’re STARTING with the premise the bullpen was worn out, and YOU WANT to find instance where this fact could have theoretically affected the series.

    If there are NO rules to the exercise, if we can start with a conclusion and speculate backwards to attempt to demonstrate the possibility of the conclusion, what is the point? There is no end to the possibilities.

    “Which basically means what is says- a destroyed bullpen had a part in it- not was the main factor or anything like that.”

    They didn’t have ANY part. Not in what actually happened.

    “How could having essentially 1/3 of the pie that is your baseball team burnt out help you in the playoffs? It can’t.”

    But we’re not longer dealing in the theoretical. We KNOW what happened.

    I honestly don’t think you understand the point I’m making.

    I’m NOT advocating Joe Torre’s regular season bullpen management.

    I’m not saying Vizcaino wasn’t possibly tired, or anyone else for that matter wasn’t.

    I’m responding to SJ44′s ASSUMPTION (and now yours) that Joe Torre’s bullpen management was so bad it OF COURSE affected their post-season results in 2005-2007, which is a point one can (and you both are) make by completely ignoring what actually happened, using the premise that “everything could have played out differently’.

    You’re basically arguing the baseball version of the “butterfly effect”.

    And you know what, you’re right. I can’t disprove it, any more I can disprove a negative.

    I’m just saying you can introduce the butterfly theory to any argument, anytime, and with it change the rules, so that NOTHING is a safe conclusion.

    Acknowledging that beforehand doesn’t change the fact that’s all it is.

  17. Warning Track Power June 28th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    my guess is Logan. he has been sent down before, so sending him down again would not be news.

    it won’t be Chan Ho. the team has not given up on him just yet. especially since Eiland is returning to the team tomorrow night.

  18. Carl June 28th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Melky!

  19. Mike June 28th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Melky hits a double off Strasburg lol

  20. Terry from NH June 28th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Melky just roped a double off Strasburg and a 98 mph fastball.

  21. Quentin June 28th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Ughh. The things are bad for the Red Sox on the injury front that they probably go out and sweep the Rays now.

  22. Blackboard June 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Strasburg really doesn’t look that impressive… he throws hard but these guys have no problem putting hard contact on it.

  23. Carl June 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Stupid base running Melk!

  24. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    LGY, would you lock up Phil? I don’t see any reason why the Yankees should wait until he goes FA. What’s not to like?

  25. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    I agree that the Yankees had other concerns about Wang other than that he was injured (though that was a huge part of it). If he had stayed healthy, I’m sure the Yanks would have tried to re-sign him, but would they have gone all out? I’m not sure. The Yankees see Phil as a true #1 type; did they think that way about Wang? I don’t think so.

  26. raymagnetic June 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    “Strasburg really doesn’t look that impressive… he throws hard but these guys have no problem putting hard contact on it.”

    He looks very impressive in his highlights. :D

    I’m kidding sort of, as most people look impressive in highlights.

    From the small sampling of footage I’ve seen however, and the numbers he’s put up thus far I would say he has pretty good stuff. The low walk count is extremely impressive, especially for a rookie.

  27. Miranda15 June 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Everyone say what you want about Mose but after 3 consecutive 7 plus innings and 8 or more strikeout with 2 or less runs is getting lit up? Not in my mind that is ace like and he is the best pitcher recently for SWB and oh yea he also had his carreer high in SO’s twice in his last 3 starts with 10 through 6.2 in one and then through 7 so he is a damn good pitcher. And who the hell is worse then A.J. An 11.45 era in his last 6 starts that sucks so bad he is terrible and he IS GETTING LIT UP for the love of god

  28. ron June 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Melancon has been pitching well latelly for swb.

    Hasn’t given up a run over his last 12 innings/8 hits.
    Montero scorching hot also.
    Albaladejo has been lights out as well.

  29. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Although, it’s true that Phil has yet to get through a whole season as a starter healthy; when did the Sox lock Lester up? After his 2nd full year?

    Are the Yankees kidding about bringing up Dustin Mosely? Please tell me they are.

  30. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    I really don’t want to see Albaladejo again…….

  31. eric June 28th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    gerit cole gettin start for ucla

  32. raymagnetic June 28th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    “If he had stayed healthy, I’m sure the Yanks would have tried to re-sign him, but would they have gone all out? I’m not sure. The Yankees see Phil as a true #1 type; did they think that way about Wang? I don’t think so.”

    They might not have seen him as a number one type, whatever that means….but from the time he debuted in the majors until he got injured he was one of the best pitchers in the league.

    Why would the Yankees give Hughes a long term contract? He’s done nothing thus far to warrant an extension.

    Now maybe if he pitches well the rest of this year and next year they’ll consider it but I believe he’s not even in the discussion of an extension and I’d be shocked if the Yankees signed him long term right now.

    And I’ve always been a big Hughes fan.

  33. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Blackboard June 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    Strasburg really doesn’t look that impressive… he throws hard but these guys have no problem putting hard contact on it.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I’d trade Chamberlain for the extremely unimpressive Strasburg.

  34. THE TRUTH June 28th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    “that Joe Torre’s bullpen management was so bad it OF COURSE affected their post-season results in 2005-2007″

    Again, your misplaying words. No one said OF COURSE it affected the 2005-2007 playoffs, but I guess SJ made the point (in passing I might add- it was a small piece of a much larger argument but you nit picked words) that it can be argued (Argued does not mean OF COURSE or DEFINITIVELY, it means perhaps or the word of the day even- speculated), that it played a role. And I tend to agree. I don’t see how having only 1 or 2 relievers because you devastated the others can help you in the playoffs. Especially in the deeper rounds, which of course, we did not get to.

    I mean, as to some of your other points too, if you want to be in awe of the MIGHTY Indians 2007 Bullpen to believe that we couldn’t come back, fine that is your perogative. Me personally, I think if we keep it closer there we have a shot. Wouldn’t be the first time the Yankees rallied and it certainly wouldn’t have been the last.

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  36. RalphieD (OPPC) June 28th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    “Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
    I really don’t want to see Albaladejo again……”

    the yankees would be foolish not to give albaladejo another shot….reports say he totally reinvented himself and the numbers back that up…there is no harm in seeing what he can do

  37. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Ray, maybe so, but since they didn’t extend him, what does that tell you?

    I suppose your probably right, but teams are locking up their young starters long-term and that’s why I broached the subject. I guess for now it’s fine – Phil isn’t going anywhere for the next 3 years, lol.

  38. H.K. June 28th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Phil Hughes and Gerrit Cole were neighbors.

    What if somehow the Sox get Gerrit Cole.

    Woudn’t that be funny?

    Hughes, former Red Sox fan pitching for the Yankees while Gerrit Cole, former Yankee fan will pitch for the Sox.

  39. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Ralphie, I don’t know – I just seriously doubt it. He reinvented himself? There’s no one in the pen I would dump for Albaladejo, so I’m not sure it matters. Oh, Logan I guess………….

  40. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Actually, that would be as annoying as he*** if the Sox got him.

  41. Bret the Hitman June 28th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Are the Sox down Pedroia, Buchholz and VMart?

    If so, we should pounce now and create some distance in this division.

  42. LGY June 28th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Betsy,

    Lester was signed after his first full year.

    I would lock up Phil (of course pending him continuing to pitch well and staying healthy). I am not 100% sold they should do it after this year, because it would be nice to see how he bounces back next year after his first full season starting.

    It is a delicate balancing act though, because the closer Phil gets to FA and the longer he pitches well the more he is going to cost.

    In the end though, it really is hard to say without having knowledge of what Phil wants. IMO it really depends on how much of a team friendly deal he would be willing to sign after this season or if he wants to sign long term at all.

    Buying out as many FA years as possible following arbitration years is really the big money saver. With how much money the Yankees have already tied up long term, that money saved could really be beneficial. Also, the younger Phil hits FA the more his first “real” contract is going to be worth.

    If he continues to pitch well and you can get him on a Lester contract, I very likely go for it at the end of this season.

  43. LGY June 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    “Why would the Yankees give Hughes a long term contract? He’s done nothing thus far to warrant an extension.”

    ———————————

    What does this mean? The Yankees would not be rewarding Phil for a job well done.

    Locking him up long term would theoretically be in the best interest of the team.

    Wang and Hughes are really not comparable. Hughes is on a completely different level compared to Wang in terms of the risk/benefit of locking them up long term.

    And this whole discussion Betsy brought up is predicated on Hughes continuing to pitch well this season. No one is suggesting locking him up today.

  44. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    LGY, wow, the Sox signed Lester after his first full year? They took a chance – but the guy has rewarded them big time

    I can’t say I disagree as to waiting until after next year in order to lock up Phil, though you’re right – he’s going to hit FA when he’s in his prime if he’s not locked up before then. Only Sox players seem to give their team home town discounts, lol – but you’re also right in that we have no idea what Phil would want. I will say that if the Yankees broach an extension in the next year or so, it’s a great show of faith.

  45. raymagnetic June 28th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    “Ray, maybe so, but since they didn’t extend him, what does that tell you?”

    That they lucked out and he got injured. I think they would have preferred if he hadn’t gotten hurt and they wouldn’t have had to sign AJ.

    The Yankees haven’t extended Jeter’s contract yet either. Should I read something into that? They didn’t extend Jorge’s contract until his last contract was over, should I have read something into that as well?

    The fact is it was way out of character for the Yankees to extend Robbie’s contract. I don’t see them suddenly changing their policy now.

  46. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 28th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Right – if Phil blows up in the 2nd half, then it doesn’t mean they won’t lock him up eventually, but obviously it wouldn’t be this year. He doesn’t have to pitch like this the remainder of the year – in fact, it will be hard for him to maintain this because of the fatigue factor and because he’ll be facing AL East teams a lot more often – but if he pitches well enough and he obviously continues to show that he’s as good as they think, then there is no reason for the Yankees not to at least consider locking him up. Also, I agree LGY – it’s not about what he’s done (what have any of these youngsters done), but what he is expected to do. The Yankees have to decide whether he is worth the “risk” of a long-term deal, but then when they decided to not trade him for Santana, they really sort of committed to him.

  47. raymagnetic June 28th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    “What does this mean? The Yankees would not be rewarding Phil for a job well done.

    Locking him up long term would theoretically be in the best interest of the team.

    Wang and Hughes are really not comparable. Hughes is on a completely different level compared to Wang in terms of the risk/benefit of locking them up long term.

    And this whole discussion Betsy brought up is predicated on Hughes continuing to pitch well this season. No one is suggesting locking him up today.”

    It means exactly what it says. He’s done nothing for them to consider locking him up long term.

    Wang got injured, but make no mistake a healthy Wang was a much better pitcher than AJ who received 18 mil per. Which is the contract Wang likely could have commanded had he not got injured.

    Not sure where the risk/benefit of not locking him up is any different than Hughes.

  48. LGY June 28th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    They didn’t luck out with Wang getting injured.

    There were serious concerns about Wang that made extending him long term not even a real consideration for the Yankees.

    What happened was much more serious than could have been expected, but given his injury concerns and that he was a sinkerballer it would not have been smart to extend him.

    When they signed AJ, Wang was in their rotation. They very likely would have signed AJ either way because they had a spot open in their rotation and there were no better options. Wang was projected as the #3 starter last year and to many people the #2 starter.

    Jeter, Jorge, etc are not comparable also. The arbitration process is a completely different ballgame than locking up aging player’s long term.

    The only comparable the Yankees have with Phil Hughes is Robinson Cano.

  49. pat June 28th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    “kids reaction to yankees win at arizona”

    Five years from now some named Abibryski in AZ will be posting here and be completely stressed out when Phil Hughes gives up a hit in the first inning. Awesome. :sad:

  50. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Eduardo Nunez gives Scranton a 3-2 lead with a 3 run homer to right field.

    Montero is 0-2.

  51. THE TRUTH June 28th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    WOW Eduardo Nunez…. future NYY short stop or current trade bait?

    He is having an awesome year for a SS that is only 23.

  52. raymagnetic June 28th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    If the Yankees had extended Jorge’s contract early do you think he gets the same contract that he got as a free agent? So in the end, it ended up costing them a year and probably more millions on the contract as well.

    Was Wang not injured and not fully healed from the foot when AJ was signed? I don’t see how a worse pitcher could have been the number 2 pitcher.

  53. stuckey June 28th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    “but I guess SJ made the point (in passing I might add- it was a small piece of a much larger argument but you nit picked words) that it can be argued (Argued does not mean OF COURSE or DEFINITIVELY, it means perhaps or the word of the day even- speculated), that it played a role.”

    But that isn’t what he argued.

    Go back and look it up.

    “And I tend to agree. I don’t see how having only 1 or 2 relievers because you devastated the others can help you in the playoffs. Especially in the deeper rounds, which of course, we did not get to.”

    And no is arguing with you.

    I’m merely pointing out that in 2005-2007, the bullpen WAS essentially a non-factor. That might be a rare exception to the rule you just cited. But nonetheless, that’s exactly what happened.

    I’m NOT saying Torre’s bullpen management couldn’t hurt a post-season team, I’m saying in 2005-2007, it didn’t.

    There is just a mental discipline involved in overlooking what sounds like it makes perfect sense, with what actually happened.

    “if you want to be in awe of the MIGHTY Indians 2007 Bullpen to believe that we couldn’t come back, fine that is your perogative.”

    Being one of the two of us that actually looked at the numbers from their 2007 bullpen, I will exercise it.

    But that point isn’t that the couldn’t come back, of course they could. No one could argue otherwise.

    I’m merely saying the scenario where a strong-armed Vizcaino, relieves Wang earlier, resulting in the Yankees not giving up another run, resulting in the Yankees I guess according to your argument “not giving up” (which I personally didn’t find to be a characteristic of that team, which I guess you did, because they STILL had the option of scoring more than 3 runs regardless of how many the Indians scored) and scoring more runs that the Indians, thereby resulting in the Yankees going on to win the series they lost 3-1, isn’t likely enough to be considered at any great length.

    As I say, I can’t disprove this “theory” so if that is your point, I guess you win the argument.

    No one can say for sure what would have happened if every player felt differently going into the series.

    Glad that important point has been illuminated for me.

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