Yankees vs. Seattle, Game 2
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jun 30, 2010 
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Update, 7:30: Milton Bradley hit that 75 mph 0-2 mistake a long way, to the retired number display beyond the fence in right-center, off Javier Vazquez. So it’s 1-0 here in the second.
Update, 7:47: Franklin Gutierrez checked out of the game in the top of the second inning with an upset stomach. Ryan Langerhans replaced him in the lineup but took over in left with Michael Saunders moving to center. Saunders’ homer here in the third made it 2-0.
Update, 7:54: The Mariners are second-to-last in the league in hitting, but you couldn’t tell by this series so far. They have three runs and five hits with two outs in the third after putting up seven runs and 12 hits yesterday.
Update, 8:02: Felix Hernandez looks tough, no hits allowed through three.
Update, 8:11: Finally, a Yankees hit. Mark Teixeira’s double leading off the fourth here extended his hitting streak to 11 games.
Update, 8:32: There are two outs and two on in the Seattle fifth. Chad Gaudin is warming.
Update, 8:40: Big pitch by Vazquez to fan Ryan Langerhans with the bases loaded, 89 mph fastball. He’s up near 100 pitches now.
Update, 8:42: Second baseman Chone Figgins just lost a couple of popups up there. Colin Curtis had a gift double on the first one and Francisco Cervelli’s ball was caught by Ichiro in right. Hernandez just made a nice play on a comebacker by Jeter to end the inning. The Yankees’ best hope against Hernandez might be hitting popups toward Figgins.
Update, 8:58: Vazquez is done – six innings, three runs, six hits — a quality start by definition, although he didn’t seem that sharp. And yet he fanned eight and walked only two. He threw 113 pitches, 71 for strikes. Damaso Marte is in.
Update, 9:10: Marte didn’t do his job to keep it close, surrendering that two-run homer to Russell Branyan in the seventh. Chad Gaudin is in.
Update, 9:53: It’s over, 7-0 Mariners. Quite a masterpiece by King Felix. A two-hitter with 11 strikeouts.
Where did everybody go ?
Brian,
“Nothing cures a bad offense like Yankee pitching.”
Everybody’s sobbing?
Everybody must be have given up on the Yanks, especially against Felix.
Join me on GothamBaseball.com for our second live Staten Island Yankees game chat. Come with questions on the Short Season affiliate of the New York Yankees as I will be answering questions and providing updates on the game as it is going on.
Javy vs King is a huge mismatch.
3 hard hit balls so far for the yankees…unfortunately all have found gloves…
All hard hit balls, all right at people. Or nice plays being made. Right off the bat, everyone knew that Cano’s was headed right for a glove. Every time he takes that batting champion swing to left field, it manages to find the Left Fielder.
I’m dying for the Cashman to make a trade to deepen that bench.
Yikes.
Get that Cliff Lee guy too!
First place right there for the sox to take, as the yankees have completely fallen apart against the worst offense in the league.
A .211 hitter and a .214 ninth place hitter doing the killing. Nice job Yankee pitching.
With Javy its like the Henry the 8th song… second verse same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse.
Starting pitching is starting to go a bit south and the offense isn’t too dynamic either. Not good.
Eiland has some work to do. How many 2 strike hits and 2 out runs have we given up this season?
Just as I said, 2 strikes 2 outs…
that’s pretty much it. It’s too bad they lose the series to Seattle in YS.
Seriously, that Lee guy is impressive.
Against Seattle’s lineup?? This is garbage.
Vazquez is terrible. I don’t want to hear any defenses of him. He can’t pitch n win here. Trade him now and go get Lee.
We all realize this is the majors worst hitting team right?
Wow
Are the Yankees playing in Yankee Stadium against one of the worst teams in baseball
That has a grand total of 12 road wins all season.
This series thus far has been very poor
The Mariners are a last place team for a reason, teams beat them even when Cliff Lee and Felix Hernandez starts, so that is no excuse at all.
get rid of this bum
Two starters with ERAs over 5. Making the M’s look good . . . pretty awful stuff.
What a disaster
Unreal. Wanna turn a bad offense into a good one? Face the Yankees pitching.
Totally agree with trading Javy and getting Lee. We are not winning this year without him.
Cashman is going to have to add another bat to this lineup at some point.
Nick Johnson doesn’t count.
With the below career norm seasons that Jeter and Arod are having and the terrible season that Teixeira is having this team falls behind and finds it hard to catch up in these kind of situations.
Lots of dead innings until it is too late.
They might score a couple of runs in the 9th inning to make a 6-1 game, 6-3 and it looks closer than it was all along.
Shake my head that they are playing like this against the Mariners.
Dice-bb at 50 pitches through 2ip.
Oh that vaunted Sox staff!
Ha ha!
Seriously, how come NL hitters could not hit pathetic pitches like this?
Can’t wait to see Logan soon
javy will be gone 3 team deal yanks get lee by july 31
I don’t like the vibe of this team right now and the Stadium sounds lifeless.
LET’S
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YANKEES
I’d rather have Dice K than Javy
Seems like Eiland has his work cut out for him with several of our pitchers right now. Is it me or do our pitchers have some terrible stats with RISP and two outs? Would love to see those numbers!
Useless lineup
Cashman can’t sit on his hands. Get creative. Move for Lee. Trade Vazquez for prospects.
God awful. No excuse for this.
“I don’t like the vibe of this team right now and the Stadium sounds lifeless.”
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Looking at this team the past couple of nights, of course the joint must sound dead.
This has been brutal to watch.
Last nights performance fair enough, but they are doing the exact same thing again tonight.
Like I stated for all the glory of Lee and Hernandez, teams have beaten them and the Mariners in games they have started this season.
This is just brutal to watch right now.
NOT A SINGLE HIT SO FAR
How long before king buzzkills Matt and SJ come here saying this team is over?
When players like Cervelli try to swing for the fences it’s going to be a long night.
The Yankee batters can’t wait for the 9th inning to start a rally.
With their current approach, and with Hernandez’s stuff this could be ugly.
I’m predicting with a couple of nice fielding plays, King Felix will throw a no-hitter.
Vasquez can’t even hold down the worst hitting team in the league.
Once he gets behind he’s too predictable.
Vazquez needs to go back to the NL. His stuff isn’t good enough for this ballpark or the AL. Too bad the Yanks don’t have anyone in the minors that could fill in the 5th starters spot so they can trade him to an NL team and get 2 decent prospects for him. He has to stop hanging his off speed pitches.
Where oh where brian are damon and godzilla? Huge losses
Did anyone really think we were winning with Javy vs Felix???
Didn’t take Matt long!!
This used to be an informative blog to read. No longer. Now it’s just a whine-fest during games.
The crowd is dead because they know this team cant score
I bet we will be tipping our caps in 2 hrs
Just saw the score for the first time.. Javy’s being Javy again.. Rotation other than CC and Andy a little rough right now. I couldn’t trust AJ or Javy at this point and with Lee on the block he looks more attractive everyday.. I say trade for him and sign the extension.. Yanks have a surplus of catching prospects other than Romine if that’s what the M’s want.
If I was the manager of this team if my batter swings at the first pitch and makes an out I would fine them.
Why is it that everybody on this team thinks they need hit first pitch fastball again good pitchers.. it’s the opposite approach then they need to take.. work the damn count, bunt and move the pitchers rhythm..
This past month there is a lot to not like about this team. Yes, you have to support your team when they are down I get that, but why is it that all teams who statistically have no offense come alive when they face us? It’s never our pitchers doing she-it, it’s always the bats are heating up.
Put Vasquez or Burnett in the BP and trade for Lee… that would be a good start in fixing this team. In fact, it might help this lackadaisical offense find new life and get excited. They are playing their age.. and the young fill-ins are doing what we can expect them to do, so you can’t blame them.
It would be ridiculous to give up on this team at this point, but just as ridiculous to expect them to play like they did last year.. cant do it. I knew Damon and Matsui leaving would have an impact, but i didn’t think it would hurt this bad. Big mistake not bringing Damon back.. instead we got what.. 15 minutes from Glass Johnson?
“# Butch June 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Did anyone really think we were winning with Javy vs Felix???”
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LOL, hey we’re the Yankees I would like to think so, especially in Yankee Stadium, but guess that may have been too much to ask of the starters to keep the team in the game and the lineup to actually do anything noteworthy.
Pure deadwood out there these past 2 nights.
I hate to agree with you Matt but Cervelli really ticked me off there swinging for the fences. That’s not his game. I understand he wants to give the team a jolt. They all do. But we don’t need any heroes. Just stay within yourself, put your head down and work.
Go away Rob B. Follow Trisha.
Tex really starting to put good swings on balls with more frequency.
I doubt a guy who hasn’t hit a HR all season long is swinging for the fences. He’s just trying to square it up and hit it hard.
Javys good for 5 runs. Felix? Come on.
Michelle,
Lee would love to reunite with his boy CC and even more to play for NYY. He said it himself yesterday.
If we can trade for Lee and trade Javi that would be fantastic. Or even put him in the BP as a long reliever. For me it would be a toss up of who I would want for 5th starter Burnett or Vasquez.. even tho AJ is a mess, I think I would rather stick with him.
“# Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) June 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
This used to be an informative blog to read. No longer. Now it’s just a whine-fest during games.”
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Are you watching the game Rob, what do you want us to do
Congratulate the Yankees on fine play, the solid hitting and pitching against one of the worst teams in baseball.
I will always stick by this team, but this is very poor the past couple of nights. The game tonight is not over but the Yankees need to step their game up
This is the defending World Series Champions, we should be able to take a series at home against a team like the Mariners.
When I saw the early fly ball outs, I was getting worried because with Javy that often means they will soon leave the ballpark! The offense concerns me a great deal. Gardner and Cano have really been our most consistent producers. Jeter has been brutal lately. Tex has been more off than on. Alex is far from being Alex. Swish has cooled off too. If Cervelli is going to be in the lineup as much as he is, we are in trouble because his offense is just terrible for the past two months. Yes, he is a back-up but with the amount of playing time he is getting, you have to get more production. He has two strikes on him every single at bat in the blink of an eye. When Granderson gets on, he is often hitting in front of Cervelli, which means he is going nowhere. I also wonder why Girardi does almost no running with men on base. Gardner seems to be about the only one he tries and steals with.
“# Butch June 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Did anyone really think we were winning with Javy vs Felix???”
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The have a BA of .328 against him in his career. So, yes, I thought there was a good chance.
I still think there is a chance.
This team just seem like they have no energy. That they are tired.. it really does. We need a fire starter here.. they get to complacent.
Anyone want to take a guess at the Yankee starter with the 2nd lowest ERA on the staff for this past month?
Cervelli was DEFINITELY swinging for the fences.
How about Vernon Wells? Let him DH/LF. They would have to pick up the rest of his contract though.
Alex fooled there. That was a long swing.
“This is the defending World Series Champions, we should be able to take a series at home against a team like the Mariners.”
who happen to have two of the best pitchers in baseball….they aren’t bad 2 out of 5 games.
Hey BIT Goose, Dice-K is doing almost as good as AJ.
HaHa
It’s like freaking pulling teeth trying to string together a few hits
Posada is struggling.
Hope he does something here.
Way to move those runners over
Leadoff double and the man is left on base scratching his @rse.
Sums up why this team needs another bat in this lineup.
Way to throw away a leadoff double. Excellent.
But we didn’t want to pay for Holliday… fine, I was okay with that but not at the expense of losing Damon and Matsui… not getting Holliday should’ve been a no brainer to bring Damon back!!!
Michael Kay just said I hope Nick Johnson gets back in August.. Why? He is worthless.. even if he walks a lot nobody is going to do anything with it.
This team is terrible right now.. bye bye first place. Hello chasing Redsox after the all-star break!
My bold prediction for 2010.
Nick Johnson will be a playoff hero for the Yankees.
He will be the 2010 Damaso Marte
No guesses for the 2nd best starter this past month?
Fine. I’ll tell ya.
Javy Vaz
“# blake June 30th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
“This is the defending World Series Champions, we should be able to take a series at home against a team like the Mariners.”
who happen to have two of the best pitchers in baseball….they aren’t bad 2 out of 5 games.”
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Well me might as well chalk up a couple more losses because we face Lee and Hernandez on the West Coast trip to Seattle before the All Star Break.
Our hope rests on the Rays now.
Lisa,
I agree with everything you posted @ 8:15pm..
this team is just tired and their age is showing!
Macfan
This offense does not need another bat. We need a more consistent approach. People can insult Matt all they like – mainly because he all he does is speak negatively about the Yankees – but Matt has an understanding of some things.
People can say “we’re the best team in baseball” or “we have the most runs scored”, but those lines do not negate the fact that our team has holes in it, and the main hole is offensive inconsistency.
This team wins despite a lack of core fundamentals.
When you start the inning off with a double, you only need productive outs to score a run.
Hit the ball the other way, get the runner over.
Hit a fly ball, get the runner in.
It’s basic fundamentals.
Even superstars need to know how to play baseball the right way.
LGY June 30th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
My bold prediction for 2010.
Nick Johnson will be a playoff hero for the Yankees.
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Talk about being ridiculously optimistic. Wow. keep dreaming.
“# P- (where is my team?) June 30th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Michael Kay just said I hope Nick Johnson gets back in August.. Why? He is worthless.. even if he walks a lot nobody is going to do anything with it.”
Kay is an idiot, Nick Johnson doesn’t fix the hitting issues with this team, they need a solid, production bat to go behind Cano every night.
I really just hate watching Vazquez pitch.
Finally, some rays of hope.
We don’t have the most runs scored. That belongs to the redsox.
Great lead off double and Tex never leaves 2nd base. I didn’t expect the Yanks to score 5 runs tonight but this lineup is so poor. The Yanks shouldn’t have this many games where they can’t get anything going and I don’t care who is on the mound. The offense sleeps threw the 1st 6 innings of every game and then attempts a come back.
People like Rob B want everyone here to be all positive and not point out all the obvious flaws this team has.
# Macfan June 30th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
“# Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) June 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
This used to be an informative blog to read. No longer. Now it’s just a whine-fest during games.”
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Are you watching the game Rob, what do you want us to do
Congratulate the Yankees on fine play, the solid hitting and pitching against one of the worst teams in baseball.
I will always stick by this team, but this is very poor the past couple of nights. The game tonight is not over but the Yankees need to step their game up
This is the defending World Series Champions, we should be able to take a series at home against a team like the Mariners.
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I’m not going to disagree with you. This is a very disappointing game. I really don’t think Vazquez has pitched as poorly as some think; Bradley, for example, hit a decent pitch for his HR. Was over the middle, but was a low pitch, maybe even out of the zone.
When I say this has turned into a whine-fest, this is what I mean: I look at the list of names of people posting and I barely recognize any of them. It just seems to be a bunch of people who are just here to complain. People who have no perspective at all.
What do I mean about perspective? Yankees are having a horrible month offensively. But did you know that last year June was also the worse hitting month for this team? Go take a look at Baseball-Reference.com, look at the hitting splits for this year and last, and you’ll see they’re pretty much the same.
It’s one thing to be frustrated and know that there are some problems with this team. It’s another to have post after post demanding that half the team be traded.
Talk about being ridiculously optimistic. Wow. keep dreaming.
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That’s why it is called a bold prediction.
Why don’t you bore us with another stupid post about how this team has no fire and the Red Sox are like hungry hungry hippos out there.
U r lifes eternal optimist if u think Johnson is coming back this yr.
I really have no problem with them not scoring here. Lee and Hernandez are tough, and I figured that if we didn’t score early, we weren’t going to score.
What my issue is with, is the pitching. There is absolutely zero reason that this terrible, awful, no good, very bad offense should be scoring seemingly at will. We’ve given up 10 runs in 13 innings to a team who’s best hitter not named Ichiro is Franklin Guitierrez at .278. That’s inexcusable. Chalk it up to Hughes having that extended rest and being rusty, or Javy just having a couple bad pitches that got drilled…Whatever the reason, there is absolutely no excuse for giving up this many runs to a team this bad.
And Macfan: I took the time to respond to you because you are one of the few names that I DO recognize as having been here often in the past.
“# CR9 June 30th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Macfan
This offense does not need another bat. We need a more consistent approach. People can insult Matt all they like – mainly because he all he does is speak negatively about the Yankees – but Matt has an understanding of some things.
People can say “we’re the best team in baseball” or “we have the most runs scored”, but those lines do not negate the fact that our team has holes in it, and the main hole is offensive inconsistency.”
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Oh I agree with that, there are guys on this roster not pulling their weight consistently at all.
The biggest culprit is Teixeira who to date this season has not produced with that consistency you speak of.
That is why I say we need another bat because the alternative is we keep waiting for Jeter to raise his OBP to his career norm, Arod to raise his numbers and be consistent and Tex to do likewise and it doesn’t happen.
If we look right now Arod and Jeter’s AVG, OBP, SLG, OPS are all well below their seasonal averages.
Given their ages I don’t know if that is just a down season they are having or inevitable natural declines.
Tex at 30 on the other hand is just having a poor season, for who knows what reason.
Who’s shocked? The lineup gas been carried by Cano and Swisher and Gardner. Posada is hurt. Jeter and Tex are having major fail years. Granderson can’t hit leftys and his obp is embarrassing. The bench is minor league quality.
This is baseball folks, it’s a game, a sport. Depending on who’s on the mound opposing you, it doesn’t matter if you give up 1 or 10 runs. If you don’t score, you can’t win.
Stop the bashing, whining on here, it’s is so childish ! Yanks can’t win every series during the year, or the division, league championship, or the W.S. every year no matter how much they do or don’t spend.
Truly some of you so called “adults” sound like teenagers. GROW UP
Vazquez strikes would be nice. Watching the Mariners hitting like they are in this series is pathetic. Their lineup is dreadful. It just shows you how bad Hughes and Vazquez have pitched.
get rid of this national league bum
I agree with Macfan on this: the Yankees DO need another bat. And I don’t think that bat should be Thames when he returns. Thames shouldn’t be much more than a PH to come in and face lefties.
We have no DH. That’s why we have too many nights like tonight where Posada is the DH and Cervelli is the catcher. We need a good bat with decent or better defensive skills who can serve as our primary DH. Period. Nick Johnson was supposed to be that guy, but he’s out and we can’t count on him even coming back, much less producing.
A DH and a reliever are the priorities. If the Yankees can get Lee and not give up the farm, I’m all for that, too.
Vazquez knows he doesn’t have good stuff and looks scared to throw strikes.
P,
They have another West Coast trip coming up so they better wake up because they face Felix and Lee then too. Cervelli is a great young kid but if this is the best we have to back up Jorge, we are going to have a problem because it’s not like we are only using him once a week to give Jorge a rest for a day game after a night game. I would also like to see us put more pressure on a defense. Hit and run once in a while. Also, Granderson was on a few times last night with one out or less and we did nothing to run him. Isn’t his speed one of his best attributes? This was also when the game was fairly close.
If Javy is an NL pitcher why did he give up 4 runs in 5 innings against the DBacks and 3 so far to the Mariners who are basically an NL lineup.
Man we miss Damon and Matsui.
The Yankees are getting shut down with Felix Hernandez on the mound.
We’re really freaking out about this?
Hughes and Javy can’t be trusted in the post-season.
They’ll make some changes before the deadline, so calm it down, wait and watch.
Life will continue. I’ve been around a while and the Yanks don’t rest on their laurels.
The Yankees are basically a .500 team for the last month and a half or so…..they just can not put a streak together. They win a couple, lose one; win 3, lose 2………..
This game is far from over. If Javy gets out of this inning unscathed, our offense will come out in the 5th inning like it’s the 9th inning. Mark it down.
# Michelle June 30th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Vazquez knows he doesn’t have good stuff and looks scared to throw strikes.
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Yeah, I’m sure he scared to death. How old are you ? 4 ?
Felix is a beast, we should all kill ourselves.
JAVY !!!…time for the O to respond and for the King to Krumble !
“Hughes and Javy can?t be trusted in the post-season.”
10-2 with a 3.58 ERA can’t be trusted in the postseason?
Give me a break with your doomday predictions.
Its tiring.
The Yankees are much better at this point this year than they were last year. They had this many wins at THE ALLSTAR BREAK last year.
They don’t “miss” Damon and Matsui. I love them, but they’re both past their primes and suck. Plain and simple.
# mick
Man we miss Damon and Matsui.
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Last year !
Betsy,
That is just not true.
They are 32-22 in May and June.
As good as Felix Hernandez is, his ERA is not 0.00. When you get a chance like last inning with 4-5-6 coming up, you have to move runners up and put at least one on the board.
Three runs keeps you in the game even with Felix Hernandez on the mound, but the deficit only looks so large if don’t chip away earlier in the game. When you wait until the 8th or 9th inning every night to start putting up better at bats and chipping away, it’s usually too late.
Better get Lee
Vazquez, so far, has buckled down and done what Hughes wasn’t able to do last night: stop the bleeding.
June Splits for the offense this season and last:
2009: .253/.354/.433
2010: .251/.339/.410
It’s a bit worse this year, and it still is the worst month so far. Just like last season. I won’t be overly worried unless the Yankees fail to pick it up in July like they did last season.
Watching Granderson not make contact makes me sick.
This team is built on the HR.
A big inning team.
LGY, thanks for the correction, but I still dont’ think they are that good – they are no better than the Sox, IMO. Ok, so we’re a couple of games in front (in the loss column), but that’s nothing. I do not like this offense at all and the pitching is struggling a bit now.
Great job by Curtis to get to 2nd on that…running hard all the way.
This lineup needs an infusion of a contact hitter who can make things happen and exert constant pressure on opposing pitchers. High contact guys keep lineups out of prolonged slumps and inconsistency.
DeJesus.
Curtis lucks out!
Michelle
Did you see Granderson make good contact on 3 or 4 occasions against Lee last night, or did you forget that?
The Yankees are 17-9 going into this game for the month of June. That’s on pace to win over 100 games.
That’s being a . 500 team for the past month?
The Yankees don’t need Cliff Lee, they need a hitter who can bat at the bottom of the order and see some pitches.
Their main problem is the inconsistency of at bat quality up and down the lineup. The hitters at the bottom like Cervelli just have no ability to fight a pitcher right now.
It makes no sense to put what are essentially automatic outs in the lineup by choice like they have been doing. Call up Montero and rotate him between DH/C if you don’t want to acquire a real hitter.
# Michelle June 30th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Watching Granderson not make contact makes me sick.
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At least we know what caused your illness.
Painful watching Cervelli hit those soft pop flies to the outfield
Very good point Matt. The trouble is that with this team, it seems to either be one big inning or nothing at all.
this is one of those annoying games. happens.
Betsy,
You don’t think they are that good? Really?
Amazing.
Hopefully we only need Javy/Phil for a total of 3 starts in the alds, alcs & ws.
The Yankees are 0 for 6 with RISP tonight.
Just because Felix Hernandez is on the mound doesn’t mean they haven’t had chances to get runs on the board. The quality of at bat with RISP has consistently been inferior over the last few weeks, and it shows in the results. Hitters are swinging at bad pitches and overanxious on the good ones.
Another runner stranded. Can wait for Jeet to demand $22M/yr for 7 yrs after the season
# Matt June 30th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
The Yankees don’t need Cliff Lee, they need a hitter who can bat at the bottom of the order and see some pitches.
Their main problem is the inconsistency of at bat quality up and down the lineup. The hitters at the bottom like Cervelli just have no ability to fight a pitcher right now.
It makes no sense to put what are essentially automatic outs in the lineup by choice like they have been doing. Call up Montero and rotate him between DH/C if you don’t want to acquire a real hitter.
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You really think he’s ready ? Come on !
Cervelli is going to have to start hitting otherwise he can’t be in the lineup this often. He looks totally over matched. Everyone knew his magic shoes were going to fall off eventually but having him + Curtis/Huffman back to back in the lineup is pathetic.
what about hank blalock for dh?
cervelli has become an automatic out.
the loss of Johnson is underestimated.
he took pitches , made the pitcher work, his avg would have risen.
our lineup is no longer circular.
Montero is not ready for the majors yet. Leave him in Triple A for the rest of the year. He is just starting to find his stride again after a long slump.
They need a hitter at the bottom of the order who can see pitches.
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They have that guy….Brett Gardner. He’s second in the league in pitches seen.
Unfortunately, he’s hurt and they have missed him the past two days.
On his last 32 innings, Felix has given up 3 runs.
He’s been red hot lately.
Everybody talks about how guys like Cliff Lee and what not throw so many strikes that you can’t wait them out. Well when you get intimidated by the guy’s reputation and get away from what you do best, that’s when he shuts you down even more.
Cliff Lee last night and Felix Hernandez tonight have not had pinpoint control of their pitches, but the hitters are going up there being over aggressive because they hear the guy’s reputation. Your best chance of coming back and winning a game like tonight is to get Felix Hernandez out of the game, but you are letting him work deep by swinging early in the count like that.
Even if the best pitch to hit is the first pitch, take it. Getting him out of the game after 6 innings is worth way more than scoring 1 run off of him on a lucky first pitch meatball but letting him go 8 or 9.
Yankees have suffered quite a bit of “bad luck” this month. Their BAbip has been a measely .278. Think Cano’s first inning liner. Think all the hard hit balls that happen to go right at somebody.
Need a high contact guy. A tipping point in the lineup.
DeJesus
Javy. Pitching just well enough to lose. Again.
Lee and Hernandez are 2 of the best pitchers in the game.
They can beat anybody.
They are going against our 4 & 5 pitchers.
Get a grip .
We need a real DH and Jorge behind the plate our line up is weak and doesn’t hit good pitching or even work good pitchers pitch counts up. How about Dunn in Wash over 900 ops, how about Guillen in KC, Wiggington in Baltimore, a bat a real experienced bat to lengthen the line up. We lost Damon and Matsui 52 hr’s and 2 hitters over 850 ops’s.
# mick June 30th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
cervelli has become an automatic out.
the loss of Johnson is underestimated.
he took pitches , made the pitcher work, his avg would have risen.
our lineup is no longer circular.
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You got that right. Despite a .167 BA, Nick had a .388 OBP. Ridiculous.
Imagine if he had actually been able to hit.
SJ,
The 8 hitter, whether Cervelli or Huffman or whoever is essentially an automatic out right now, and doesn’t tend to make the pitcher work. When you have holes in the lineup, it can really get a pitcher off the hook. If Cervelli sees only 2 or 3 pitches in a given at bat but a better hitter sees say 5 or 6 by fouling a few off instead of popping or grounding out weekly, that’s an extra 10-15 pitches per start and the guy throws one fewer inning.
Same thing with Jeter. His one pitch at bats are giving pitchers low enough pitch counts to go deeper into games. As much as it pains him, his at bats are worth more if he works a deep count early in the game, even if he makes an out.
Please don’t take Matt seriously. He wanted Hughes in the minors after one bad outing. He’s s joke.
Just got here, hello everyone.
let me guess, the sky is falling.
Jorge is not built for the regular season.
The DH spot is built to preserve him for the playoffs and series.
“Did you see Granderson make good contact on 3 or 4 occasions against Lee last night, or did you forget that?”
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So because he hit yesterday means he can’t hit today? The guy is hitting .240 and the Yanks traded 3 players for him that they can use right now. He has too much trouble making contact.
Good choice replacing 50 homers with Johnson and Granderson. Two wastes
How can you idiots critique every game like kids arguing over who hit who first ?
Dump this guy, he belongs here in the lineup, don’t resign Jeter, trade for this guy, this is on Cash, should have kept Damon and Matsui, Girardi is an imbecile, it’s Posada’s fault, now Cervelli is a bum at bat, on and in and on !!!
Everyone says Montero is a major league hitter.
Of course by bringing him up now you are starting the arbitration clock, but so be it.
You can’t have Posada DH every day. His numbers as a DH are terrible.
Cervelli is what he is. A no-hit player who makes the most of his ability.
He didn’t hit in the minors, he has no power, and his rah rah act is growing thin.
That’s a nice quality start from Javier. Time for the offense to kick it into gear and give Javier some help.
SJ, they’re a good team, but IMO they are on par with the Sox and some other teams. When I say they aren’t that good, I mean they aren’t special……
If you think this is a tremendous offense, then we part ways because it’s not. The reality of the situation is that several big players are having down years. If they bounce back in the 2nd half, great, but guess what? They have to do it first. For now, they don’t look so hot.
You want everyone to agree with you that this is a great team and when they don’t, you get all huffy about it. What is your problem with people disagreeing with you?
somehow we will eek out 100 wins.
we will have a dh for the post-season.
jorge will be the catcher.
Lee and Hernandez are 2 of the best pitchers in the game.
They can beat anybody.
They are going against our 4 & 5 pitchers.
Get a grip .
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Pitchers don’t “beat” other pitchers, they beat opposing lineups .
Granderson is terrible. 310 OBP? Really?
lways lookin’ June 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
How can you idiots critique every game like kids arguing over who hit who first ?
Dump this guy, he belongs here in the lineup, don’t resign Jeter, trade for this guy, this is on Cash, should have kept Damon and Matsui, Girardi is an imbecile, it’s Posada’s fault, now Cervelli is a bum at bat, on and in and on !!!
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Everybody shut up!
“When I say they aren’t that good, I mean they aren’t special……”
Did you think last year’s team was special at this point in the season?
A 1-0 count wasted with an impotent popup.
Pitchers don’t “beat” other pitchers, they beat opposing lineups .
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Yeah?
Swish why the big swing???
You don’t have to swing at every hitters’ count pitch…
You can try to get Felix Hernandez out of this game by taking a few?
They really miss Gardner when he’s not in there.
If they can keep the M’s to 3 runs…I feel a late inning rally coming.
Another CG.
YES isnt even going to show a replay of the “check swing” strikeout. What professionalism from John Fillipelli.
It wasn’t like Swisher even got a meatball. That was top of the zone on the outside corner. That’s not a pitch you can do much with when it’s from Felix Hernandez with his velocity.
Every hitter is trying to do so much. You need baserunners to give yourself a chance to chip away, you don’t need to hit 8 home runs.
# Matt June 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
SJ,
The 8 hitter, whether Cervelli or Huffman or whoever is essentially an automatic out right now, and doesn’t tend to make the pitcher work. When you have holes in the lineup, it can really get a pitcher off the hook. If Cervelli sees only 2 or 3 pitches in a given at bat but a better hitter sees say 5 or 6 by fouling a few off instead of popping or grounding out weekly, that’s an extra 10-15 pitches per start and the guy throws one fewer inning.
Same thing with Jeter. His one pitch at bats are giving pitchers low enough pitch counts to go deeper into games. As much as it pains him, his at bats are worth more if he works a deep count early in the game, even if he makes an out.
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Me thinks Jeter might know what he’s doing by now, ya’ think ?
I would love to see a stat that shows how many pitches a batter sees per at bat. Mor specifically, I would love to see a stat for swinging at the first pitch and making an out. Derek Jeter would win that this year.. that is for sure!!
When the heck is this team going to realize that when there bats are cold, swinging at the first pitch hurts them much more often then it helps them !!! That aggravates me more than anything.
-The ‘hate’ for Curtis Granderson is insane.
-The Yankees bench is, in fact, horrible and Brian Cashman needs to make some trades
-The Yankees NEED another bat. 100 percent NEED another bat. You cannot ignore the short comings of Derek Jeter, Mark Teixiera and Alex Rodriguez.
If a Red Sox got rung up on that, the replay would have been up within 3 seconds of the strikeout. But YES network doesnt care to show us fans a replay of whether or not he actually struck out.
so no on blalock then.
Felix on the cruise control.
Blake, last year was last year and this year is this year. If this team turns it on again, then I will admit I was wrong. This is not the same Tex, not the same Jeter……Alex isn’t that healthy. Granderson, who I love, has not been good. I hate the rotating DH thing and Cervelli is just plain bad right now – and he’s getting a lot of playing time. No, I’m not convinced the team will just suddenly turn it on. They often have terrible at bats and except for the Dodger game on Sunday, most of their comebacks are lame attempts in the 9th after the game has already been put out of reach. They are a good team, but I expect this to be a dogfight.
# Michelle June 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Swish why the big swing???
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You really think he’s a slap hitter or what ? Dummy
Betsy,
No team is special in June. You said they aren’t very good.
If that’s true, every other team in baseball is worse since they have the best record in the game.
Step away from the ledge.
Matt,
Jesus Montero is not ready to play at this level yet.
Two and a half hot weeks in AAA doesn’t make him ready for this level.
By missing Damon and Matsui I mean they took pitches, made the pitcher work.
Granderson is not that type of hitter and Jeter has become impatient.
That is the reason they got Johnson.
I’d rather have Swisher hitting lower in the order.
P- (where is my team?) June 30th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I would love to see a stat that shows how many pitches a batter sees per at bat. Mor specifically, I would love to see a stat for swinging at the first pitch and making an out
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They are out there. Go to Baseball-reference.com.
If montero was ready he would be up,obviously he is not.
He might be almost ready be not defensively.
Cervelli needs to be a backup not starting.Unfortunately posada can’t catch everyday.
What we need is a real dh like dunn.
He would be perfect.
P/PA:
Brett Gardner- 4.55
Curtis Granderson- 4.15
Nick Swisher- 4.11
Mark Teixeira- 3.98
Alex Rodriguez- 3.97
Jorge Posada- 3.96
Robinson Cano- 3.52
Francisco Cervelli- 3.51
DEREK JETER- 3.51
See a problem with who is tied for last in this lineup in P/PA? Our lead off hitter, who is supposed to let the other hitters see what the pitcher has and put up a tough first at bat starting off the game.
The hate for granderson isn’t insane. He’s been awful
It seems like Tex is going to stay lost this whole season. I don’t see any signs of him coming out of it. He seems to have 1 good at bat a game and the other 3 his timing/mechanics are totally off. Watching him reminds me of Vernon Wells from last season when he looked dreadful and couldn’t get anything going. I really wonder if Tex has eye problems and isn’t seeing the ball.
“Mor specifically, I would love to see a stat for swinging at the first pitch and making an out. Derek Jeter would win that this year.. that is for sure!!”
Wrong! He’s hitting .357 swinging at the first pitch this year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....nlW9GFCLcF
Betsy –
100 win teams ARE special.
Stop being such a drag.
SJ, when I said they aren’t that good, I didn’t mean it like that; I meant they aren’t THAT good (meaning really good/special), not that they aren’t that good (meaning mediocre).
Jeter has not been himself.
Um, I don’t think I’ll be taking your advice such as it is, Goose………..and your math must really suck because they haven’t won 100 games yet.
Jeter has always been a first pitch hitter. He’s been like that his whole career.
Cano is also one who has had quite a bit of success in the past swinging at the first pitch, believe it or not.
SJ –
The leap from AA to the Majors is not unheard of these days.
Montero has spent half a year at AAA, his bat is ready.
He doesn’t have to catch up here, he just needs to hit.
The same thing was said when Cano was called up.
It’s too early. How did that work out?
The Yankees don’t have to turn it on, make drastic changes, gut the farm system, DFA everybody who swings at a 1st pitch, etc.
They are on pace to win 100 games.
100 wins.
Can people please look at this team with a little perspective.
The Red Sox have not won 100 games in a season since 1946
# mick June 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Pitchers don’t “beat” other pitchers, they beat opposing lineups .
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Yeah?
You don’t think so ? Last time I looked, they only “beat” opposing pitcher is when they hit !
And in A.L. that ain’t happening.
Angel Hernandez probably just got concussed but doesnt want to call time so the game will speed up.
Well, they can’t win 100 games yet since they haven’t even played 100 games.
However, they are on pace to do so.
No teams are “special” in June.
SJ, you must be referring to another Betsy because I am on no ledge……….I could easily return your snark with a like comment, but I’m not going to.
# Michelle June 30th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
It seems like Tex is going to stay lost this whole season. I don’t see any signs of him coming out of it. He seems to have 1 good at bat a game and the other 3 his timing/mechanics are totally off. Watching him reminds me of Vernon Wells from last season when he looked dreadful and couldn’t get anything going. I really wonder if Tex has eye problems and isn’t seeing the ball.
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Please take the time out of your busy posting time and go LOOK for him. Come back after season.
Betsy, you can have your opinions…thats fine. I’m just not making any judgments on the team before the all star game. I’m just enjoying the games at this point in the season.
Well, yeah, I know that, but tell that to Goose who said that 100 team wins are special………….We’re talking this year and he’s fixated on last year’s team.
Gardner has a higher SLG than Teixeira. It’s unbelievable how much this guy blows. And he’s only in the 2nd year of his 8 yr contract
Pitchers don’t “beat” other pitchers, they beat opposing lineups .
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Where did I say anything resembling that?
Of course good pitching beats good hitting.
Their 2 Aces are better than ours or anybody elses for that matter.
That’s why they are winning these 2 games.
Matt,
Have you seen Montero play this year?
I have….9 times.
He has only recently begun to swing the bat better lately.
He spent most of the season chasing balls out of the zone.
He’s the youngest player in AAA. He’s not ready yet.
Ok Betsy, don’t take it.
I’m tired of your Chicken Little nonsense.
Every time I come on here I have to scroll past your dozens of worry wart complaints to see anything of value.
You should be a Royals fan. It suits you.
Blake, that’s great. I respect your opinion – and I appreciate that you, unlike others, don’t judge me (or anyone else) for not seeing things the way you do.
I don’t buy “on pace” and never have…….not for hitters, pitchers or teams.
# blake June 30th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Betsy, you can have your opinions…thats fine. I’m just not making any judgments on the team before the all star game. I’m just enjoying the games at this point in the season.
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How do you enjoy a game they lose?
“See a problem with who is tied for last in this lineup in P/PA? Our lead off hitter, who is supposed to let the other hitters see what the pitcher has and put up a tough first at bat starting off the game.”
Try again Matt. The leadoff hitter is supposed to get on base. Jeter is hitting .357 swinging at the first pith. The Yankees know damm well his tendacy to swing at the first pitch. They don’t care because Historically he has been a great swing at the first pitch kind of guy. You never played much baseball did you? Curious as to where all this great baseball knowledge come from?
Wow!
If you’re so tired, take a nap.
Why don’t you take your rose-colored glas ses off? In case you aren’t aware of this, you are not a better fan than me or anyone else who has concerns about the team.
Nice of Seattle to pick up Branyan right before they came to play us. And they will probably dumb Lee right after they’re done with us too!
# Tar June 30th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
“Mor specifically, I would love to see a stat for swinging at the first pitch and making an out. Derek Jeter would win that this year.. that is for sure!!”
Wrong! He’s hitting .357 swinging at the first pitch this year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl…..nlW9GFCLcF
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Exactly, good point. The highest avg. of all hitters (combined) is attained on the FIRST pitch !
lol! Boone Logan made a nice play there!
Sigh…
For the last several years, the Yankees have been a second half team.
Comparing this team to last year’s team, they have followed an eerily similar pattern (despite them playing well in April).
Yet people still are incredibly down on this team. I’ll say it again: I won’t be too concerned unless they DON’T pick it up in July.
Pathetic. Marte the great lefty reliever. He has been absolutely dreadful this season.
Can’t name one guy in the pen having a decent year – not talking about a good or great year – just an avg year besides Mo.
Concerns about a team with the best record in baseball?
If they went 162-0 you’d be reflecting on how bad their middle relief was in June!
Good grief. Series loss to the Mariners.
Matt i am sure cash & girrardi ask the aaa coaches if montero is ready & are told he is not wether it be defensively,offense,etc…
If he is going to be our future catcher he can’t just be a dh,it will hurt his developement.
He is only 20 yrs ols & is just coming out of a horrific slump.
Now maybe cashman will grow tired of cervelli who is an automatic out & trade him,bring montero up to catch with po dh’ing a few days a week but montero has to be able to hold his own both offensively & defensively & i trust the yankees over you in regards to that decision.
Who wants to say Martes good now? Man this pen after Mo stinks
Betsy always seems to be complaining. If there was an ignore feature, I would most certainly use it with her.
I refer to him as No-Mas-O Marte……
Tar,
Jeter is not getting on base though. He is seeing 0.4 less pitches per plate appearance this year, and his on base percentage is SIXTY points lower. SIXTY. He has walked only 4 more times than Cano this season. An OBP of .346 is mediocre for a leadoff hitter.
Yankees lost 2 of 3 to the Nationals last year at home, and won the WS. This is not the end of the world.
Marte had 6 good games last yr. All in Oct. He’s not good.
the thing that bothers me is the terrible AB’s with men on 2nd and no outs. give me a fly out.
who has worse ab’s the granderson.. when he goes donw man it is qucik.
i think his ab with 2 strikes is horrible……….under 100….
thank god marte is the lefty specialist……
The Yankees are 16-9 in June.
I am really not getting all this panic about how poorly they are playing.
How much better do they need to be? Play .700 baseball every month?
If the Yankees play .640 ball the rest of the way like they have in June, they would run away with the division.
SJ –
you say Montero is not ready. I say he is.
We will just have to agree to disagree.
I’ve dissected each Montero at bat in detail for the last two weeks.
He has turned the corner.
I respect your opinion as I’m sure you do mine.
Between CB, you and myself – we have the most respected baseball minds on this blog.
So because they happen to have the best record they have absolutely zero concerns? Ok, if you say so.
Well, too bad there isn’t, lol – and I’m glad I’m annoying you.
CC will shut them down tmw.
AJ will get unconscious.
Get rid of the football mentality.
No team is perfect.
Great pitching beats good hitting.
Most other teams suck.
We have the best starting pitching in baseball.
Montero is there to learn to catch. The kid hasn’t hit at all and he’s 20. He’s not Miggy.
I’ve been reading these posts all night. Why do they have these blogs? People should enjoy baseball. We’re facing tough pitchers and in a slump. They are the world champs and they have the best record in baseball.
So, when is the offense going to show up?
Outside of one inning in LA, it has been MIA
Everybody keeps pointing the finger at him for this or that, or him for that.. it makes no sense.
It’s not a one player issue at this point. Collectively this team is playing poorly. I have seen this team play like this before over the past few years.. where they just same tired and lethargic.. but I don’t think I have seen the ENTIRE team this bad collectively. There’s nobody there to pick this team up. We have Cano, but when Cano goes 1 for 4, nobody is there going 3 for 4..
Regarding Hughes last night.. How in the world can you even say a single thing negative about him? He has won 10 games this year. Yesterday he had a bad start, agreed. However, Phil is a big reason why we are in 1rst place.
“So because they happen to have the best record they have absolutely zero concerns?”
They have concerns but not as many as some people perceive that they have and a whole lot less than most other teams have.
Expectations are killer with this team sometimes.
Mick,
I don’t enjoy it when they lose…I’m fighting back throwing things at the TV as we speak..I’m just not going to make more of it than it is though, a game in June against a really good pitcher..
Another line drive right at someone. Just terrible luck. We could have had a 2-1 lead on Cano’s earlier double to left field that went right at someone. A game of inches indeed.
Are we really still complaining about the lineup not scoring?
Look, we were INCREDIBLY unlucky, and drew both Lee AND Hernandez. They are GREAT pitchers, and could both make the All Star team this year. Hernandez, especially, has been on a roll lately. Look at his ERA from just a few weeks ago, and look at it now. The kid has been filthy as of late. He’s had exactly 2 bad games since the start of May. There is no shame in getting shut down by them.
The problem comes in the pitching that went out and has given up 12 runs in 16 innings to arguably the worst offense in baseball. And even then, we had rusty Hughes and Javy putting in a “clunker” after a series of really good starts.
There’s no reason to worry about the team. Be mad that they’re losing to such a horrendous collection of players (Lord knows I am), but calling for a massive team overhaul from THESE TWO GAMES is silly.
It’s odd because the Yankees haven’t really had a losing streak this year (I think 3 straight losses was their worst) but they haven’t had a long winning streak either. Hopefully they’ll come out of the ASB blazing like in the past and reel off 8 in a row or something.
Watch, when the Ms go into Boston, Lee will already have been traded, and Hernandez will get rocked.
Just the way it goes.
RS,
Yep. We are basically a .500 team over the past 6 weeks (4 games over to be exact).
We accumulated most of our wins early,
Swing at the pitch 10 feet outside, and take the pitch right down the middle. Makes sense. And meanwhile, David Ortiz is just absolutely back. Whatever batch of drugs he received, I hope our guys get, and soon.
blake
well if you feel like throwing things at your tv it sounds like you are making more of it than it is.
Stop talking about luck.
How about hitting it out of the ballpark? No luck involved in that, that is skill.
We’re the New York Yankees. Start hitting some damn home runs.
162-0.
Betsy, reflecting on a truly special season: “Their RISP could have been better.”
# mick June 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Pitchers don’t “beat” other pitchers, they beat opposing lineups .
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Yeah?
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This you questioning what I said ?
its pretty obvious from the style and spacing.
when did Ortiz become Babe Ruth?
Man, he is killing it.
Dear Kevin Long,
You have been with this team for a number of years. When our bats struggle and they are facing a good pitcher (I won’t talk about getting blanked by the ERA > 5.00 pitchers) .. why have you not helped this team to take more pitches when 60% of the game is completed and nothing has happened? Can we please work to change this approach, it’s obviously not working.
Also, can you share with us your views on how Mark Tex went from one of his best offensive seasons last year to virtually a league worst? IT started in the post-season that his bat went to sleep, and it has yet to find it’s way out of bed.
“well if you feel like throwing things at your tv it sounds like you are making more of it than it is.”
not really, I feel like doing a lot of things but in the end know better.
This you questioning what I said ?
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huh
This team is in first place,the rays crashing,the rs can’t stay this hot.
The rs are going to go as far as their pitching takes them.
If we were in 2nd or 3rd place you would see cashman getting lee & maybe a dh but that is not the case.
When you can make moves in a position of strength instead of weakness you are better off.
Cashman will give burnett,vaz,nj time before he makes a move.
You can’t just start irrationally start making moves immediately after a loss,bad at bat,etc…
I think the plan all along was for montero to spend the whole year in aaa,nice to see him gwetting hot,if he can catch heis going to bespecial but if we trade him while he is mashing he will bring back a very nice piece.
Matt
It’s obvious to me you dont realize how hard the game is. To you, there is a formula for every play or situation. If the Yankees dont follow your “formula” (ex: see a lot of pitches) They have failed.
Jeter is not a protoypical lead-off hitter, but he is the best we have. To this point he is not having a great Jeter year (not bad either). IMO me this bodes well for the future.
And get off the amount of pitches soapbox, you should be well aware of his sats when he does swing at the first pitch.
“Between CB, you and myself – we have the most respected baseball minds on this blog.”
Please tell me this is a joke. HAHA very funny Matt you got me.
We face Lee and Hernandez next week too… in a much worse hitters park. Along with Fister and Vargas.
Brutal. Toronto is throwing their 3 young studs too.
Oakland pitching is good too, and that is a brutal park to hit HRs in.
Don’t expect the offense to show up until after the ASB.
P-,
You have officially sunk to new lows of stupidity if you are now getting on Kevin Long.
spoiled yankee fans with a football mentality is a bad combination
Rs and EA,
long winning streaks are tough when a Burnett is in your rotation, pitching the way he has.
Nevertheless, you have to give credit to the games they’ve lost – and especially these last two.
Lee and King Felix are just too tough.
You know things are bad when we can’t even beat sub .500 teams anymore.
Forget the pitching, they have the worst offense in the league and they have scored runs at will.
Can understand how they can’t hit Lee and Hernandez. What about Kendrick, Moyer, Takahashi, Lopez and Padilla? These 5 aren’t exactly Ubalbo Jimenez?
The Yankees have a .640 WP in June.
They are not playing poorly.
I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp.
lgy
see my 9:25 post.
Arodys Vizcaino shut down by the High A Braves today. Hope its nothing serious. He is an exciting talent.
King Felix is 5-5
Let’s not act like he is Sandy Cofax
This is on the offense. He is probably like the 4th best pitcher we would have faced this week.
Doesn’t matter what Jeter hits on the first pitch because that represents only a small sample of his at bats. When you average much fewer than 4 pitches per plate appearance, how do you ever expect to draw walks?
Jeter is the leadoff hitter, and he gets on base at a mediocre clip at best. That is all that matters for a leadoff hitter, getting on base in front of the big hitters, not how many first pitch grounders up the middle he hits in the first inning. Not only is he not getting on base, but he’s letting the pitcher off the hook by doing it on very few pitches.
The Yanks could trade for Babe Ruth but it won’t help if Jeter and Posada keep playing like their age and Tex and Arod are this inconsistent. Arod has looked better recently but the only other consistent guys in the lineup are Swish, Cano and Gardner. It’s hard to click everyday with so many guys struggling.
it’s Koufax.
Let’s not act like he is Sandy Cofax
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If you don’t know his name, don’t name the comparison moron. Cofax lol. Barbie and Kent’s names are easier to spell. Stick to that allan.
Are you effing kidding me, its one thing to not get any runs off of Cliff and Felix its another to give up 12 runs to the Mariners. They might be last in every single offensive category is all of mlb…and I live in Seattle so I hear about it everday…this is torture!
Your right mick.
Jeter was put up leadoff to accomodate Damon.
Damon is gone, time to leadoff with Gardner.
So, that’s the ticket? Tip your cap to a good pitcher every time?
Well, we face pitchers comparable or better to King Felix a ton until the ASB… so they are going to be tipping their cap a lot, if that is the case.
Isin’t that why this offense gets paid $200 million?
Brackman 5 IP, 3 hits, 3 runs, 3 walks, 4 K’s… takes his first AA loss today.
Barbie and Kent’s
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That’s Ken.
i know its frustrating when we lose but everybody calm down were not going 162-0
Jeter is not only having a bad season, but his approach has changed at the plate as well. He is swinging a lot earlier in the count, chasing more pitches off the plate, and hitting a ton more ground balls than he has ever done before. He is hitting about .220 on his grounders this year, yet is hitting them at a nearly 10% higher rate.
It’s not bad luck, when you swing at fewer strikes and accordingly make weaker contact on the ground, you aren’t going to get as many base hits. He is having more trouble with fastballs than he has in recent years statistically, and even to the eye it seems he is having trouble getting around on them. It could be a slump, but it appears like it is either a decline in bat speed or a change in approach. It’s definitely worrisome.
Stacey,
Bingo. There is a reason the Mariners are 12 games under .500 despite having the 2nd best ERA in the AL.
They. Can’t. Hit.
Their bullpen also leaves a lot to be desired. No problem if their big-2 shut us down. They shut down a lot of teams… but they lose anyway because they can’t hit and their pen is mediocre.
No excuse at all for the performances by our starters. I bet they haven’t scored 13 runs back to back in any game this year.
Mikey O’Brien has another solid start for Staten Island. ERA is at 0.98. He always intrigued me. Small guy but supposedly has pretty good stuff.
serenity now
“Isin’t that why this offense gets paid $200 million?”
They pitch and play defense free?
blowout! what was the point spread?
This is embarrassment. nuff said.
Swept by SEA in YS?
Alright that is enough for me. The bleeding stops because I am going to Dairy Queen.
mick-
That’s why I played baseball to get into college lol.
I apologize for interrupting a game thread. I didn’t announce GTLU today and a few people submitted lineups. Two came real close, bit no one won. I will not count today’s game. I am also traveling tomorrow, but if people want to play, I will catch up with the entries tomorrow night.
I was skimming today’s posts. Kinda glad I was otherwise occupied…
Back to your game thread.
I think Guadin will be released by tomorrow game time.
Tyler
Vizcaino has an elbow strain.
Get this team some pen help Cash. Please. Get rid of Logan Gaudin Park.
“This is embarrassment. nuff said.
Swept by SEA in YS?”
Yeah, that’s real likely with Sabathia throwing tomorrow.
They’ll win one game. Which is terrible, and quite disappointing, but not catastrophic.
The part I don’t like is how the Mariners are putting together better at bats. Fouling off tough pitches until they get a pitch they like.
Doreen
bet you didnt go to ga. pig?
Exactly, giving up a combined 14 runs to Seattle in 2 games is a pathetic job by the pitching staff. There is a reason they are a ton of games under .500 despite having these supposed “unhittable” aces, and a reason that a guy like Felix Hernandez is 5-5 despite having a low 3′s ERA.
If the pitching kept them even remotely close, they would have a chance to chip away, but then again, they had 5 or 6 innings in both of these games to steal some momentum back before Seattle piled on and didn’t hit a lick, so it goes both ways.
When the Mariners score this many runs and especially hit homeruns you know your pitching is terrible. I can understand not hitting Lee or Felix but giving up this many runs is pathetic and embarrassing.
pat-
Thanks for the info. I saw it on milb.com but was too lazy to click on the link lol. He’s having an outstanding year. Rough couple first starts in the Florida State League but his control is unreal. Amazing K/BB ratio…
Hi Doreen
Hope you got close enough today that tomorrow isn’t the longer haul. Travel safe.
Enough is enough. DFA Gaudin and give someone else a chance.
Seriously, this is embarassing. I’m not panicing, I realize how good our record is but this is at home against the M’s who not only are horrible offensively but have a horrible road record. Terrible and I don’t like the Houghes rules, I’m more a fan of the Nolan Ryan rules.
# Allan June 30th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
King Felix is 5-5
Let’s not act like he is Sandy Cofax
This is on the offense. He is probably like the 4th best pitcher we would have faced this week.
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Just when did you hear of Sandy Koufax ?
Seriously, this is embarassing. I’m not panicing, I realize how good our record is but this is at home against the M’s who not only are horrible offensively but have a horrible road record. Terrible and I don’t like the Hughes rules, I’m more a fan of the Nolan Ryan rules.
“This is embarrassment. nuff said.
Swept by SEA in YS?”
Yeah, that’s real likely with Sabathia throwing tomorrow.
They’ll win one game. Which is terrible, and quite disappointing, but not catastrophic.
at this point anything is possible, certainly noone expected SEA is leading 7-0 right now.
Matt
Here is something for you to try this weekend. Go find a real batting cage near you. One that gets up to 90mph. Wear a helmet please. Put your token in. Have at it. Let us know how you do.
Its 2 stupid games in late June. At this point last year the Yanks weren’t doing anything and needed a talking to by Cashman. Amazing how now they are going nowhere. There is over half the season left. Chill out. Yes it sucks to lose 2 at home to the Mariners but so be it. If Cash sees a weakness he will correct it. In the meantime we have 10 people on here who think they know more than the front office. That’s what is pathetic.
Who saw Hughes and Vazquez getting rocked by SEA?
Why can’t CC?
Then again, this offense probably will get shut down by that scrub from Australia.
LGY,
You may not agree with my posts, but directly insulting me (and others) really shows your level of maturity.
If you don’t like what I have to say, then don’t read it. Isn’t ironic that you are on this blog complaining and insulting people who are venting their frustration about their team slumping.
If you are such an asset and a positive yankee fan, why don’t you spend less time insulting people here and contibute something worthwhile?
You guy, are probably the worst of the trolls here.
That’s about all you’re getting from me.
We will hear:
“sometimes you gotta tip your cap to the pitcher”
This team needs gardner back,posada catching & a dh like dunn.
When you have po dh’ing,velli catching,huffman,etc… in lf,the pitching struggling,tex in a slump,arods power not there this is what happens.
jeter
gardner
tex
arod
cano
dunn
posada
swisher
granderson would be sick
Jeter is going to show bunt down 7 runs with 2 outs.. NOW YOU THINK OF IT.
wow.
At least he took 2 pitches.
LOL! Let’s go for 2 straight opposition complete games.
OMG, Michael Kay, Jeter has a 4 game hit streak. He’s only a measly 52 away from Joe Dimaggio!
There is no guy who is going to fix the offense. Ozzie Guillen or LaRoche are not walking through that door and making this offense consistent again.
If the older stars don’t perform to their career #s (and most of the old guys are on pace for career low numbers), then we’re in a lot of trouble anyway.
Tar,
Stop with such ridiculous comebacks. I’d like to see you go in the same batting cage and hit lasers yourself. You can’t make comebacks like that that apply to you as well.
You don’t have to play baseball to have knowledge of the game. Do you think Tim Mccarver is more knowledgeable than most baseball fans just because he has played some games in his life? Stop crying and talk some baseball, because making a post like that which has no relevant baseball discussion is pretty much an implied concession.
Mick
No comment.
King Felix has a 3.08 era and almost a K per inn. 19 hits less than inn pitched.
Little run support. Would look pretty good on Yanks, NO ?
Tyler-
I agree. Best post of the night.
Stacey June 30th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Seriously, this is embarassing. I’m not panicing, I realize how good our record is but this is at home against the M’s who not only are horrible offensively but have a horrible road record. Terrible and I don’t like the Houghes rules, I’m more a fan of the Nolan Ryan rules.
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At times I do feel like pitchers are buried but Nolan Ryan also didn’t throw many innings early in his career. I feel like it’s misleading that he pitched so long because his arm was much younger than he actually was if that makes sense. Certain guys can handle more innings at a quicker pace. I’d rather protect the arm than have it throwing 150 pitches at the age of 22. Now certain guys like Lincecum can handle it but those type are few. I have no problem with Hughes limit and I think he won’t be affected by it at all and had little to do with him struggling. Joba is just a head case at times and it gave him another thing to think about which didn’t help him imo. But if you did the Nolan Ryan Rules to Joba his arm would fall off.
Torre’s team, off their deflating loss, goes out and sweeps San Fran on the road.
Girardi’s team, off an exhilarating win and an off-day, come out and lose 2 to Seattle at home.
Yikes.
When’s the last time the Yankees were victims of back to back CG wins?
THese guys cannot lay off a pitch out of the zone wether it is from a star pitcher like Felix or a over the hill 90 year old like Moyer.
Either way, they get themselves out!
Doreen chickened out.
Stacey, let Nolan Ryan’s theory prove to be successful before you decide his rules are so great. Phil got bombed yesterday because he’s been trending that way and he was off……….Yes, he wasn’t sharp because of the rest, but that doesn’t account for being brutal. The rules are designed to protect young arms; Yanks are doing nothing wrong.
“Jeter is going to show bunt down 7 runs with 2 outs”
LOL, what is out captain thinking?
I think that is the last we’ll see of Gaudin.
Dustin Moseley is waiting in the wings.
This is what happens when the pitching coach, takes off for a month!
Pat
Thanks. Yes, we pushed today so tomorrow should leave me in the right frame of mind to get around DC.
Always lookin’ June 30th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
King Felix has a 3.08 era and almost a K per inn. 19 hits less than inn pitched.
Little run support. Would look pretty good on Yanks, NO ?
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If I’m not mistaken, he just signed an extension before the season. He was supposed to be a free agent I believe after this year. No way you can get him. Just think, he’s only 24 years old and doing this. He’s basically the same age as Hughes and 2 years younger than Buchholz. And those guys are still considered “young arms”. Hernandez is an absolute stud and always has been.
Tip your cap when you lose 1-0 to Cliff and Felix, worry about your pitching when you give up 14 runs in two days at home.
Tyler, we don’t even know if Lincecum can handle it; we’ll have to wait a few years and see how he’s affected.
did kay just say Felix has been very good over 8 shutout innings allowing 2 runs?
If the Mariners played their home games in Yankee stadium I doubt they would be anywhere close to the worst offensive team in the league.
Huffman Russo and Pena in the infield. Jeez.
Listening to the radio and reading the articles, talking about how that Dodgers win was going to springboard us and every team has one of those springboard wins in a season (for Boston it was rallying against Joba, for us last year it was the Atlanta win) and we were going to run away and hide in the East….
Funny how baseball works. I guess that was not the springboard game. If that wasn’t, then what is?
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Stacey, let Nolan Ryan’s theory prove to be successful before you decide his rules are so great. Phil got bombed yesterday because he’s been trending that way and he was off……….Yes, he wasn’t sharp because of the rest, but that doesn’t account for being brutal. The rules are designed to protect young arms; Yanks are doing nothing wrong.
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Totally agree. I know Derek Holland one of Texas’ young pitchers was already hurt to start the year. Don’t know if it was arm related though. Using young pitchers like that scares me. I’m not in favor of totally babying them but I don’t want to abuse a valuable asset either. Ryan didn’t throw alot of innings when he was young either. His arm was pretty preserved by the time he reached his prime.
Has Huffman played first before?
Doreen
Maybe you can get some Roy Rogers fried chicken on the jersey tpk
Matt
No Matt, I wont hit lasers. Thats why I have so much respect for how difficult the game is. It’s obvious to me you have no clue how hard the game is. Go to a batting cage stand there, get some perspective.
You idiots are aware the Yankees are tied for the best record on basebll? Grow some balls
Betsy-
My point was that Lincecum is mechanically made for it imo. I love his delivery. It is like the old school 1920′s pitchers who used to throw 18 innings complete games. Now he has had some struggles this year which I don’t know what those are attributable to. I just find it funny scouts say his mechanics lead to injury when his dad crafted his windup as a carbon copy of those great early 20th century pitchers who were absolute workhorses.
But he could definitely break down tomorrow. There is the element of risk with every pitcher in that aspect.
Well, we’re going to be facing pitching just as good as King Felix when Toronto comes in this weekend.
Oakland also has some very good young pitching. We also face Lee/Hernandez/Fister when we go out to Seattle next week.
So it is not going to get any easier anytime soon. No Baltimore pitching staff on the schedule to get us jumpstarted. They are going to have to face some top pitching the rest of the way through the break.
P-,
I am trying to get you to stop posting ridiculous things on this blog, so the people that actually know something about the game can discuss baseball during it.
That’s my contribution for tonight. Hopefully it works.
There goes our theory that the Yankees can’t hit bad pitchers but only hit good pitchers. The past 2 nights it’s looked like men against boys.
Just a total offensive failure thus far tonight. The team looks limp. I thought when Figgins missed Curtis’ pop up that we’d get something going, but nothing.
The team needs a bat. They need Posada to catch, Arod to play 3b and have an actual offensive presence at DH again.
The consistency just isn’t there with this group offensively right now.
The team needs Arod or Tex to put it on it’s back for a few weeks.
Granderson, by the way, is starting to really disappoint me. The only solace is Damon is lousy in Detroit and Austin Jackson is falling back to earth.
Since I haven’t been able to watch Granderson all that much, I’m wondering what he looks like when he’s going well….or is this what he looks like all the time?
As for the pitching, it is what it is. Javy wasn’t terrible and the bullpen was.
Tyler, and I love Ryan. I don’t have a problem per se with what he’s trying to do, but he could be wrong – and if he is, it will have serious consequences. Also, he was a freak – there are very, very few pitchers like him to ever have come down the pike. I understand that most old-timers bemoan these pitch counts, but no disrespect meant to them, they are grumpy old men who think everything was better in the old days.
Lincecum is too violent to be a starting pitcher.
They need to sell him high. He is a future Goose Gossage.
“The Mariners have no offense”
Come on Tampa Bay!
Tyler, I’ve seen Timmy pitch once (in a clip) and I could’t stand watching him, lol; I felt like he was going to fly off the mound – it was just uncomfortable viewing, lol.
“The Yankees are a second half team; they always play better the second half than the first.”
Doreen
Smart move. Much easier to make good time south of Richmond than north of it.
Which do we need more, a bat or a bullpen arm?
Nobody should even be mentioning Cliff Lee anymore, that is a nonsensical suggestion. We have actual needs, 2 big needs. And neither are in the rotation.
# Tyler June 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Always lookin’ June 30th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
King Felix has a 3.08 era and almost a K per inn. 19 hits less than inn pitched.
Little run support. Would look pretty good on Yanks, NO ?
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If I’m not mistaken, he just signed an extension before the season. He was supposed to be a free agent I believe after this year. No way you can get him. Just think, he’s only 24 years old and doing this. He’s basically the same age as Hughes and 2 years younger than Buchholz. And those guys are still considered “young arms”. Hernandez is an absolute stud and always has been.
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Just meant those numbers would certainly help any team. I knew he had re-upped with Sea.
Thanks
Mick
I couldn’t find it. I didn’t chicken out. My gps couldn’t find the one address I found. I went back online and thought I got the right address. I ended up in front of someone’s jome on a back road in Georgia. I didn’t want to talk about it.
“The Yankees are a second half team; they always play better the second half than the first.”
Not in 2008
And Hughes locked down the pen last year and our pen was one of our big problems, we lost a lot of games that Coke, Veras, Albaladejo, Edwar, etc. gave up insurance runs or GW runs.
Where is our Hughes this year?
sorry doreen, try roy rogers on the tpk.
Damn when the Yankees play bad, they really play BAD!… Still can’t help but think that Cliff Lee really separates the AL East if NY can somehow obtain him with an extension.. He’s that good!!.. They have the prospects. CC, Lee, Pettitte, AJ and Hughes make a formidable rotation with Vazquez not coming back next year.
Couldn’t agree more, GLove.
Tyler, I do think the rest had something to do with Phil being off, but I think it was in combination with the fact that he’d been struggling before, period. It was a perfect storm of things. The Yankees mantra is win, win, win – so what does it say that they sat a 10-1 pitcher? It says that they are putting his future ahead of the team’s present – at least when he’s scheduled to pitch. Therefore, they are convinced that skipping him is the right thing to do.
GLove-
When Granderson is going well he is one of the most dynamic players of the game imo. He’s a gap to gap hitter who can leg out triples better than almost anybody in the league. He also has a ton of pop.
I repeat, you idiots are aware the Yankees are tied for the best record in baseball, right? You are an embarrassment to new yorkers, grow some balls, there is no crying on baseball and you sound like 12 year old girls.
That is all
Albie will probably be up soon, he is doing great at AAA. Deserves another chance, at least.
Russo chants. lol.
Okay we don’t need to throw their arms off but there is such a thing as being over protective. Only two pitchers to throw complete games at the new Yankee Stadium are Mariners. No Yankee has done it. Wow. And the Mariner offense is so pathetic I don’t think YS would help them if it was there home field…regardless of these last two days.
Always lookin’-
thought you were talking about trading for him. of course he would help any team. he is an ace.
yler June 30th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
GLove-
When Granderson is going well he is one of the most dynamic players of the game imo. He’s a gap to gap hitter who can leg out triples better than almost anybody in the league. He also has a ton of pop.
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And a great guy !
We need a DH in the worst way. It is no longer a small sample size. The lineup has been healthy for a month and it has been very inconsistent.
Don’t tell me about Nick Johnson. He can be a bench player if he is actually healthy enough to contribute.
What makes you think the Yankees are being over protective?
Granderson is the one who is really bothering me at the moment.
I’m seriously waiting to see what we traded for.
Low average, consistently bad at bats but seduced with his LH power?
That can’t be it. Can it?
He’s pretty awful right now.
How could missing one turn adversely effect a pitcher so that the rest of his season is ruined?
If that’s the case he has bigger problems. More in the head than the arm.
our offense has been anemic for awhile now. i think we lost some our traits in being able to grind out at bats and work the pitcher over etc etc etc… this offense looks pathetic.
Mick
It is crossing my mind that Ga pig is a giant practical joke.
Betsy-
I don’t think the rust had a part. It was only 9 days. Imo, maybe the first inning he would be rusty but that’s hardly a long layoff. He was throwing in between on the side. That had little effect imo. He’s just goingthrough a rough stretch right now.
And I love watching Lincecum lol. Too be that small and throw like that with that electric stuff is incredible. He’s my favorite pitcher in the game. Just would hate facing him haha.
If NJ comes back, just move him to left field
Someone as unreliable as him should not preclude Cash from getting the bat that we need.
Tyler,
Didn’t see your response before I posted.
Based on what you wrote, I hope we can get to see that player. Right now, he’s a shell of what you described. He consistently has some of the worst at bats on the team.
LOL Doreen…I would never do that to you.
Didn’t I send you their website?
G Love,
It’s been a weird season for him. He got off to a great start in Boston then slumped. Then he got hurt and just hasn’t been able to get going. When the Yanks got him they knew he had trouble with leftys. Right now, Long hasn’t been able to fix him. If Granderson gets goin that woudl be huge. In ’08 I think, he hit 20 doubles, 20 triples, and 20 homers and stole 20 bases. That’s what he is like when he’s goin well.
Tar,
These guys are professional baseball players who are paid because they can hit these pitches. Saying that we can’t is totally irrelevant to the conversation. Changing the subject completely is a pretty obvious sign that you cannot refute my point, don’t you think?
Jeter does not deserve to be the leadoff hitter this season based on what he is doing, and having him up there is hurting the lineup by having fewer guys on base in front of the middle of the order hitters. Because it’s Jeter though, they won’t dare drop him in the lineup. You can say it’s a slump, but there have been some troubling changes in his approach so far that tend to point towards these being deserved results.
If he doesn’t magically revert to last year’s form, it’s a huge loss offensively. It’s hard to score when your key players are just not producing in the top and middle of the order, and not only that but are killing rallies with weak at bats.
So we finish the month 16-10
Disappointing considering the easiness of our schedule (Cleveland, Baltimore, Philly, Seattle, Arizona, Houston).
So much for everyone saying we would take off in June with our easy schedule. Considering the competition, that record is bleh..
Yankees were shut down by 2 aces. It happens. You just move on to the next game.
It is actually a little off the road, about 200 feet back, not like a typical in your face restaurant.
this team sucks. Only two hours until free agency!
Tyler, I did think he’d be less than sharp – 9 days is still 9 days. That said, it wouldn’t account for him being shelled. He was building up to this sort of game for quite a while……………His next start is against the Jays; that’ will be tough.
I didn’t realize that Lincecum is only 5’10……There was an article on ESPN asking experts what pitchers you would take over the next 10 years and only 3 voted for Lincecum. Weird.
G. Love,
Couldn’t agree more. Aside from a couple of timely HRs, the guy has been a huge disappointment.
Long has not been able to fix him against lefties or shorten his swing to raise his average.
He is one of the culprits for our spotty offense.
# mick June 30th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
How could missing one turn adversely effect a pitcher so that the rest of his season is ruined?
If that’s the case he has bigger problems. More in the head than the arm.
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OMG ! Now you think Hughes has a problem between his shoulders ? Did he call you or what ?
He’s already stated that he was comfortable with missing the turn !
16-10 translates to 96-60 or about 100 wins.
Cash overestimated Granderson’s ability.
He is a streaky platoon player. He is not some middle of the order beast who can be relied upon in big spots and to be a consistent offensive force.
He can’t hit lefties, strikes out a ton, doesn’t walk… really disappointed.
I know Javy is having a decent June with 3.5 era and 6.5 averge in his starts as those numbers and his peripherals doesn’t look bad. however, I just have zero confidence in that guy, however irrational it might be. with his disappearing velo on his fastball and less than stellar control, it’s gonna be tough for him to survive in AL EAST.
Hughes will be fine.
Jim,
I just want to see a good week out of Granderson. Give us a sign that the talent is there and it’s close to being consistent.
He looks lost most nights and is getting a lot of mileage out of his HR’s. Without them, he’s horrid.
Where is Doris From Rego Park?????
Yanks in 1st place — or at least not in 3rd — on July 1!
Woo hooooo!
Oh my god Betsy, you are seriously still talking about Hughes!
REALLY!!!!!
Do you realize that 80% of your posts on this blog are about Hughes? and this is after 90% of your posts on NYYFANS also about Hughes.
You are completely obsessed!
Good night kiddies ! ( not all )
Matt
Give it a rest. You just criticize all game long.
I think Jeter and Girardi know a little more baseball then you.
Betsy-
I think alot of that is because Lincecum has struggled recently. That is probably in those scounts minds. His first 2 full seasons in the big leagues he won the Cy Young. Enough said. Plus, if you gave me the choice of any pitcher in the bigs for the next 10 years I don’t know if I would choose him. There are so many options. Jimenez, Felix, Strasberg etc. 3 people is pretty good actually.
Funny story about Lincecum. In San Diego he tried to get into the clubhouse for a players only meeting. The security guard stopped him in front of the clubhouse stopped him and told me no batboys were allowed in this meeting. He had to show him his credentials to enter the clubhouse. He was the reigning Cy Young winner at the time.
only 1 game lead?
thnx God Sux is losing.
Josh johnson is the best pitcher in the game right now.
17-10 for the month of June.
9-1 TB top of 8th
I’m starting to think it might not be such a bad idea to trade for Cliff Lee. It’s either give up Romine+ now but get Lee for an extra playoff run, or sign him in the offseason and forfit two draft picks.
If the Yankees can sign Lee to an extension and convince Pettitte to stay for another year, then they can offer Vazquez arbitration and he’ll have to take it seeing that he has no spot in the rotation. They would then get comp picks for him as well as being able to retain their first rounder. That makes losing Romine a lot less painful.
If the Yankees wait until the offseason to pursue Lee and he holds out until December/January, it might be too risky to offer arb to Vazquez and then you lose the extra picks.
AGAIN not panicing just discussing my concerns.
God, I hope NJ isn’t really our long term plan for DH. I hope Hughes has as good of a second half as he has had in the first half and I hope the Hughes rules doesn’t throw him off. And there should be some conern when you lose two in a row to the Mariners at home by a total score of 14-4.
@Doreen: I know a great BBQ place in Sheboygan if you’re ever in Wisconsin.
Tyler, lol – that’s hilarious. He does have that kind of look with the long hair thing going on…….
G. Love,
I feel the same way. Granderson is taking streaky to a new level. He can’t even put a good week together. I agree– a good week could go a long way to making him look better. He seems to have a good game, then disappears for a while.
He needs to put together an extended stretch of good hitting, even if it is just a week. Look at Swisher – he is streaky, but his streaks last for a while and he carries teams during that stretch. Granderson needs to follow suit.
Mick
It was probably in the one direction I didn’t go, of course. But my new gps sent us you have no idea, and we didn’t see any signs. Plus the weather was garbage today – at the time we got to brunswick ga, we were between raindrops. I saw the web stuff and pix and reviews and hours and prices, and a phone number , which I should have used , but no address usable to the darn gps!
So we went to
Applebees
Not interested in trading Romine or any top prospects when they can sign Lee for free.
ron June 30th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Josh johnson is the best pitcher in the game right now.
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Hard to argue that. When everybody was talking about Halladay I was dreaming about somehow prying Johnson away from Florida lol. I’d give up Montero in a heartbeat haha. But he’s another guy who’s impossible to get. Florida had to resign him so they could have somebody attend their new stadium. the guy is an absolute stud though. fantastic stuff.
nick
badda boom!
Jeter has not look good this month. he has been striking out at quite alarming rate, his approach with RISP has been quite unimpressive. but… he is not the only one.
Doreen
Applebees was a safe place for the kiddies, good move.
Look on the bright side – Joba and MO are rested
@Doreen: They have a really good Applebees in Sheboygan too, so all your dining needs are covered.
Nick in sf
Now THAT’S funny!!
I guess I should talk some Yankees,huh? I just can’t get upset about these two losses. I expected them and frankly I’d rather they lose like this than 2-1. The Yankees will be fine.
On that note, goodnight all. I have an early start tomorrow.
Dealing with Matt’s obsessive rants is akin to baseball players dealing with Buck Showalter.
Have they ever been seen together? Maybe they are one and the same.
Oh and Jeter is my favorite player but that doesn’t mean I don’t think we shouldn’t consider another lead off guy…nor do I think we should keep Tex in the 3 spot just because historically that is where he hits.
“Saying that we can’t is totally irrelevant to the conversation.”
Saying you are ignorant, as to what it takes to do what you are asking, is 100% relevant.
But you keep posting that drivel, you might catch a few suckers.
#1 Fan,
The other thing Swisher does is see pitches. Even when he’s not hitting, he’s still selective at the plate and takes a lot of pitches.
This team, right now, is not doing that anymore. They are not taking pitches.
Granderson isn’t even being asked to carry the team. He’s just supposed to be part of the puzzle, but he hasn’t really fit here yet.
The team is also missing Gardner right now.
That said, we shouldn’t be focusing on the bottom of the order hitters. Outside of Swish hitting Lee last night, 1-5 haven’t been consistent for a long time. Even when we were winning.
I thought the rally against Broxton was going to get the team going in offensive avalanche mode when everyone builds off one another, but it hasn’t happened yet.
When this team hits all cylinders this season, it’s going to be ugly for the opposition.
Can’t believe we’re in first place on July 1 with the record we have with the offense struggling like it has been for a few weeks.
“Not interested in trading Romine or any top prospects when they can sign Lee for free.”
I understand not wanting to give up Romine, but you’re not really signing Lee for free. You’re giving up draft picks who may actually be closer to the majors than Romine.
The Yanks just lost to the best 1-2 punch in all of baseball.
Would hate to face them in the ALDS.
“Would hate to face them in the ALDS”
You’ve got nothing to worry about, Mick.
Ouch. Just pathetic.
Patrick, what’s up with the full disclosure?
I feel less special now.
# Billy D June 30th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
“Would hate to face them in the ALDS”
You’ve got nothing to worry about, Mick.
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Good!
I feel better now.
The rally against Broxton was really the bottom half of the order. Jeter didn’t do anything, Tex struck out, and Arod hit a groundball single that seemed innocent enough at the time. We’re really missing those 4 or 5 run outbursts where Jeter, Tex, and Arod all hit at the same time.
Sabathia Vs some guy name Rowland- Smith tom
hopefully we can score a couple runs off that dude…just not feeling it with this team this year.
Thank goodness we won’t see them in the ALDS…but we could see Lee on another team in the ALDS or ALCS or WS
Jeter is NOT striking out at alarming rate. He’s actually where he normally is with K’s. Last year he K’d 90 times with 72 walks.
Thus far he’s K’d 47 times with 26 walks. If anything, he’s walking less but is K’ing about his normal rate. If you look at his stats, he usually K’s over 100 times a season.
Stacey
We did last year.
How did that work out?
Lee would be tougher in a short series like the ALDS.
ron
Ubaldo Jimenez (Rockies) just won his 14th game, before July 1, has Josh?
I see, Patrick. Well, welcome to LoHud. I trust you’ll find it friendly and accomodating to a fine family man such as yourself.
Best wishes to Mr. and Mrs. Streber.
The Yanks just lost to the best 1-2 punch in all of baseball.
Would hate to face them in the ALDS.
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Luckily, that’s not happening.
I’m just glad they play 2,500 miles from NY.
They’ll see them both again next weekend.
Lee would be perfect this season as a Yankee.
Phil could go to the pen and AJ could be the 4th starter.
Or vice versa.
“Patrick Streber, son of Margaret M and Kenneth R Streber”
But Patrick what is you middle initial?
Oh wait, let me guess A for ……..
“The other thing Swisher does is see pitches. Even when he’s not hitting, he’s still selective at the plate and takes a lot of pitches.”
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P/PA:
Curtis Granderson- 4.15
Nick Swisher- 4.11
Joker You’re right on with Granderson, although not much different than Melky we gave up a lot to get a player no better than Melky. Low avg, low obp, and high strikeout guy who can’t hit leftys is a playoff nightmare. I think Detroit snookered the Yanks with him saying they had no money then gave Damon $8m. I think they knew there was a hole in Granderson and we’re finding it out. That said, we need a bat, bad. Tex has been awful for 3 mos, Johnson’s dh position is a bad revolving door, and Cervelli has come back to earth. Cano needs protection, how about Dunn, Guillen, Wiggington, or how about if the Dodgers get sick of Manny and his injuries and lack of outfield play. What do you think, this team is weak now offensively and I think needs help.
Marlin hitters are raking. Or do they only look good against the Mets?
I’ll be at all the games in Seattle next week…hope they’re better than these two…Yanks usually do pretty well in Seattle so I’m optimistic….godness the broadcasters here in Seattle are intolerable right now
“I understand not wanting to give up Romine, but you’re not really signing Lee for free. You’re giving up draft picks who may actually be closer to the majors than Romine.”
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What draft picks would be closer to the majors than Romine?
I understand Lee&Hernandez duo can shut down anyone at any given times. what i don’t see our lineup grinding out at bats, situational hitting has been putrid. I see guys fail to move runner on second w/no out , i see player swing at first pitch when down by 4+ runs. Collectively, i just don’t see this lineup nearly as good as last year lineup.
For sure, it is not great disappointment to lose to lights of Hernandez and Lee. But that’s caliber of pitcher we going to face in the playoff more often than not… will our offense be up to the task? so far, the answer this season is NO!
Don’t the Twins have a better catching prospect than Romine?
sox at least TRYING to fight back in bot of 8th, 9-4 TB no shut out for them.
I have no idea if he’s better than Romine – his name is Wilson Ramos. Peter Gammons completely talked up Romine recently and didn’t sound that high on Ramos………….Anyway, no way the Yankees get involved
other than ortiz and youlkilis, who can hit on the RS?
“Braves pitching prospect Arodys Vizcaino has been diagnosed with a partial tear in his throwing elbow and is expected to miss six weeks.”
Javy trade suddenly looking better to some of you?
Say what:
can’t really argue that even though wins don’t tell the whole story.
both have a 1.83 era,jj has a better whip,both are close in hit per innings & the league is batting .199 against jj,.201 against jiminez
very close.
Felix- “Everything was working. 4 seamer, 2 seamer, slider. Everything was working”
That about sums it up.
“other than ortiz and youlkilis, who can hit on the RS?”
Drew?
Beltre’s been the best offensive 3B in the AL this season.
That’s about it.
who is phil facing on the 4th of july?
Meanwhile, Pavano is on MLB network and is coming across as a real mensch. He appreciates Cashman having his back all those years, and laments his injuries in NY, and regrets letting fans and team down, as well as clogging payroll.
“Are there any other Yankees fans named Patrick Streber?”
Census results aren’t complete yet.
People using pitcher wins as a gauge a pitcher’s performance don’t know baseball.
Felix Hernandez hasn’t won the same amount of games has Phil Hughes because he has the worst offense in the league backing him up, whereas Hughes has one of the best.
That’s it.
Pithcing wins, like RBIs, are just a completely overrated statistic.
well no sign of intelligent life here… (except for you know who you are)
better luck tomorrow,
the sun will come up.
Randy Choate. Another Torre casualty. I wonder if those guys realize their careers became dust behind Torre the abuser.
Betsy,
I think Ramos has a sub .600 OPS in AAA. He may be a level higher, but he’s not playing better than Romine.
RConn, that’s what Gammons was saying on WFAN a couple of days ago….I don’t think the Yankees have any intention of trading Romine or any top prospects for Lee. I’ll just have to hope he doesn’t go to the Mets, lol
Wilson Ramos is having a terrible season in AAA. .587 OPS.
Romine is probably considered the 2nd best catcher in the minor leagues behind Montero with the season he is having.
Nick
Is that really a different Patrick? My Patrick-dar seems to be malfunctioning.
That’s right, so why people want to just trade him as if it’s no big deal is puzzling, esp. for a rental who we can sign next year.
Billy, Beltres is the best offensive 3B this year? OK, phrased like that, it doesnt take into account his many errors. I agree he’s been good, but Longoria/Arod good? Nope.
Glad the Sawx are just renting him this year.
FWIW
Last year Ramos was 21 and put up a .317/.341/.454 in 54 games at AA.
This year Romine is 21 and is 290/.368/.433 so far in 63 games at AA.
Different from whom?
Perspective….
“Delcarmen’s last three appearances: 1 IP, 9 H, 9 ER, 2 BB, 0 K”
And Trenton is supposedly a pitcher’s park, making Romine’s year more impressive. From the interviews he gave in ST, he seems like a kid with a good head on his shoulders; I wouldn’t be so quick to trade him.
red sox offense (minus Pedroia) > yankees offense
More perspective….
“Youkilis 3 of his last 23.”
(Perspective courtesy of the former Blogmaster’ tweets)
Meh, maybe Jack Z would be tricked in thinking Cervelli is a legit prospect!
Wilson Ramos is having a terrible season in AAA. .587 OPS.
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Again, then how in the world can people (*cough*SJ) say that the Twins can beat a package of Manny Banuelos, Brandon Laird and Eduardo Nunez?
The Twins are trading for Lee as a rental as is every team in baseball. They won’t sell the farm for him and the certainly won’t have to forfeit a prospect of Romine or Montero caliber.
Why should we have to pay more in talent for a rental?
Because we have the 120 mil he wants?
Sounds like one of those special “Yankee price” deals.
Before the clock strikes midnight, did anyone wish Chan Ho a Happy Birthday today?
“Youkilis 3 of his last 23.”
Yet his team is still scoring runs at will.
Source: Dustin Moseley will join the Yankees tomorrow. It’s unknown whether Chad Gaudin or Chan Ho Park will be DFA’d, but likely Gaudin.
How long before Dustin Moseley is gone?
Santanna for the indians was the top catching prospect before he got called up & is mashing with the tribe.
I hope it’s CHOP! but prolly Gaudin. Chop=J. Vasquez , absolutely no confidence in a big spot.
Carl
When Ace comes back
Hughes has more wins than josh johnson & is not even close to being as good.
“Yet his team is still scoring runs at will.”
They only willed to score 4 tonight when they needed 10? That’s odd.
@ron, how many pitchers in MLB is as good as Josh Johnson?
Red Sox have a catcher named Molina. Is there another one?
Release Park. If he can’t pitch multiple innings, he doesn’t really have a use. He’s never going to be reliable enough to be used as a 1 inning guy in a big spot.
At least we know Gaudin can make a spot start or pitch 3-4 innings.
Neither are very good, flip a coin
They couldn’t DFA Chan Ho!
First, today was (apparently) his birthday.
Second, his signing was a big deal in Korea. There was a press conference there. Chad Gaudin didn’t even get a conference call.
Chan Ho came here to get his ring! Do they really want to pi$$ off another friendly Asian country???
They’ll cut Gaudin. Cashman won’t give up on Park yet. If he does, it’s another off season acquisition gone wrong/away before the ASB.
Park will get more chances. They’ll probably turn him into Farnsworth who you remember was only allowed 1 inning and never appeared in the middle of an inning.
PaulyPizza
not my point.
It was about wins.
DFAing Park on his birthday would be rude. Especially after no one even acknowledged it.
Over / under on Matt postings tonight ???? How about 25………
Cashman has little clue when it comes to pitching.
Lots of dead weight in the pen… not many guys you can trust in a big spot. Marte/Joba are a box of chocolates every time. The rest of them just suck.
Robertson has been pretty good over the past month, he is probably the most trustworthy of the group
“Cashman has little clue when it comes to pitching.”
I know. I still can’t figure out how he built a pitching staff that won the WS last season.
Why is Boone Logan still here?
Well, I guess he is our long man if they release Gaudin. Don’t know if he can go more than 2 innings though, he has never been a starter.
Pregame said Aceves and Mitre were in Tampa rehabbing now and would not be rejoining the team until after the All-Star break and Mitre would come back stretched out.
Logan long man until then if they DFA Gaudin?
“I know. I still can’t figure out how he built a pitching staff that won the WS last season.”
Only because of absurd schedule that enabled us to use 3 starters. Imagine Joba starting game 4 in the playoffs?
Bret,
It all depends on how much the Mariners value Ramos despite his poor season to date. Montero has not been good this year but Ramos has been horrid. That has to be a major red flag for the Mariners. I don’t know much about the Twins farm system, but it doesn’t seem like they have much else down there to offer.
Personally, I don’t think the Twins get Lee. I didn’t realize how bad a season Ramos was having.
Who else could target him is the real question. The Mets could probably put together a decent package.
Have a good nite all.
King Felix earned his name tonite. Nobody was beating him the way he was throwing the ball. He had no hit stuff.
CC will take care of buisness tomorrow. And we are still in first.
Stay positive. Reinforcements are coming.
“Only because of absurd schedule that enabled us to use 3 starters. Imagine Joba starting game 4 in the playoffs?”
Was Cash responsible for that schedule? If not, as Branch Rickey said, luck is the residue of design.
Tonight you saw what Jack Z was thinking when he made his moves.
Imagine facing this 1-2 punch in the playoffs?
And Fister/Vargas are excellent as well.
He took a gamble that he could win a weak division and he had the pitching to take out any team in October. Guys like Bradley and Figgins haven’t panned out…
ed_price Official from team involved confirms USA Today report of C Bengie Molina from #Giants to #Rangers for P Chris Ray and player to be named.
Once upon a time, didn’t the Rangers have too many catchers?
A cautionary tale for Cashman.
I understand signing CHOP to 1.2 mil is not a big deal financially to the yanks. But what make Cashman think this perennial loser would have the heart or stuff to toil in the heat of AL EAST is *(*(*ing beyond me !
latroy Hawkins, Javier Vasquez, kei Igawa, Pavano, Jared Wright …. the list goes on forever!
BloggingBombers Correction: Moseley will not actually be in uniform until Friday. The Yankees have until tomorrow night to add him to the 25-man roster.
Meh, Moseley or Gaudin makes no dif… mop up guys…
LOL apparently on ESPN’s First Take, Skip Bayless said he would trade Phil Hughes for Cliff Lee……
i would trade Phil Hughes for Sandy Koufax , but that’s just me … Failed!
Dustin Mosely? He sucks – why are the Yankees bringing him up?
“latroy Hawkins, Javier Vasquez, kei Igawa, Pavano, Jared Wright …. the list goes on forever!”
Hawkins and Igawa don’t matter because they didn’t prevent the Yankees from achieving anything. They were low cost gambles that failed. Every team makes similar mistakes.
Pavano’s ERA+ is 127. That’s the pitcher that Cash and five other GMs (including Theo) wanted as a FA, but he was never healthy. Was that foreseeable? I don’t think so.
Vazquez pitched well in the first half of 2004 and then got hurt. He’s pitching pretty well now.
Cash didn’t want Wright.
King Felix was another guy who struggled after his first year before he became an ace.
2.67 ERA his first year
4.52 ERA his 2nd year
3.92 ERA his 3rd year
“Dustin Mosely? He sucks – why are the Yankees bringing him up?”
Because Gaudin sucks too; it’s time to try someone else.. I never understand wasting $2.9m on him before they cut him.
“Dustin Mosely? He sucks – why are the Yankees bringing him up?”
apparently he’s been pitching better as of late, why not try to catch lightning in a bottle. Plus he can’t be worse than gaudin/logan/park
If I’m NYY, I’d trade Phil Hughes for Cliff Lee quick as you can say repeat. Lee baseball’s best lefty, proven postseason dominator, only 31
about 11 hours ago via web
Phil Hughes allowed 14 earned in last 3 starts. CLee 4 complete games in last 5. Last postseason: CLee 4-0, 1.56. Please, children. Lee!
about 11 hours ago via web
Yeah, Skip – that would be a great trade.
Replacing one long man with another, no big deal.
@Rich in NJ, Igawa cost 46 mil for 5 years !
Eh, he’ll be up and out of here in no time – he’s terrible.
Matt June 30th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
SJ –
I respect your opinion as I’m sure you do mine.
Between CB, you and myself – we have the most respected baseball minds on this blog.
LOL. That is like saying Jeter, Arod and Pena are equal.
Yes, they are all Yankees. Except, two are HOF material and the other one sucks.
# Pat M. June 30th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Over / under on Matt postings tonight ???? How about 25………
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I’ll take over for $100 Alex!
Yanks should inquire about Mike Aviles from KC, he be a good fit on the bench or super Utility.
Mets are going to be tired… their game in Puerto Rico is still going on and they play in DC tomorrow night.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) June 30th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Dustin Mosely? He sucks – why are the Yankees bringing him up?
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I actually am much more excited about him than Gaudin. Don’t remember his stats on the Angels but I always thought he had some potential. But what do I know…
Pauly-
I think an Aviles type deal is one that Cash will probably do. Resembles a Hairson, Hinske type trade. I don’t think Cash will make a big splash. He will likely solidify the bench like last year and hope NJ comes back and provides anything and that some of the guys start hitting like they can i.e. Tex, Grandy, Arod’s power, Jeter gets going again.
Skip Bayless said he would trade Phil Hughes for Cliff Lee……
I’m glad Jack Z wouldn’t
Mosely beat the Red Sox in that game last year where Beckett threw at Abreu’s head
I also remember he beat Pettitte in September in 2008
I remember the first time I saw King Felix pitch was his 1 hitter at Fenway Park. He was absolutely phenomenal. I remember he struggled some the rest of the year but he just had that big game ace look. He’s one guy who deserved all the hype he did at 19. And so far he has kept his head on fairly straight. If he keeps himself in shape, the sky is the limit.
He’s only 24 years old! Same age as Hughes, younger than Buchholz, only 2 years older than Strasburg.
Sam wrote an article on SNY saying why the Yankees should trade for Lee………..and then he doesn’t go into what that would do to the rotation. Trade Javy? Put Phil in the pen (an absolute non-starter)? He thinks the Yankees should trade for Lee because Phil had a bad start (so much for patience), because Javy struggled early and because of Joba (?)……….. Not one of Sam’s better efforts (nevermind that he would trade Montero)
http://web.sny.tv/news/article.....38;vkey=10
If the Yankees offered Phil for Cliff Lee, you don’t think he’d jump at that, knowing that Lee is going to leave anyway?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.2069160
After listening to endless debates about the Joba Rules and the Hughes Rules, we bring you Felix Hernandez of the Mariners.
With King Felix, it’s no rules, just right.
Hernandez is 24 years old – the same age as the Yankees’ Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain – and is one of the best pitchers in baseball. He makes a heck of a 1-2 punch with Cliff Lee, which is why the Mariners’ lousy season is a bit of a tragedy.
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Hernandez threw a two-hit, 11-strikeout shutout of the Yankees last night, a day after Lee beat the innings limit-encumbered Hughes.
“He was as good as we’ve seen all year,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said of Hernandez after the Mariners’ 7-0 victory.
Hernandez is Exhibit A for how reasonable innings limits – not arbitrary, we-know-it-all, fear-based restrictions – can help young hurlers blossom with their shoulders and elbows still attached.
Hernandez started pitching in the minor leagues at age 17 and made his major-league debut when he was 19. He threw 100 miles per hour and had a golden right arm worth protecting.
The Mariners seem to have done a pretty good job of it – without attempting to reinvent the game as the Yankees and some other clubs have in recent years.
In that age 19 season (2005), Hernandez threw 1721/3 innings in the minors and majors combined. The Mariners objected when Hernandez wanted to pitch for Venezuela in the first World Baseball Classic during the next spring training, and he didn’t. They also kept his innings around 200 in his first three full major-league seasons.
Last season, as a 23-year-old, Hernandez went 19-5 with a 2.49 ERA and 217 strikeouts in 2382/3 innings. He finished second in the AL Cy Young voting to Zack Greinke of the Royals. He may have been the better pitcher.
This year, Hernandez (6-5, 3.03) is at 1212/3 innings. He’s on pace for his fifth consecutive season with at least 30 starts. He has been on the disabled list once with an arm issue, when a strained elbow set him down for a month in 2007.
The Mariners have been careful with Hernandez, but they haven’t encased him in glass as the Yankees did with Chamberlain.
Having Chamberlain start and pitch three or four innings, as the Yankees did in the second half of 2009, just didn’t work. Since he is back in the bullpen and is not the top starter the Yankees envisioned, there’s no way the Joba Rules can be judged a success.
It’s completely reasonable to wonder if Chamberlain would be another King Felix today if the Yankees had just let him pitch last year. Did the Joba Rules stunt Chamberlain’s growth instead of promoting it?
“I think you learn every time you go through it,” Girardi said. “Last year we would have liked to skip Joba in the first half, but we got in some situations where people got hurt. And so we had to deal with it the way we did. But you try to learn from every experience and try to do the best you can with it.”
That brings us to Hughes. On Tuesday, he was ineffective after skipping a start and sitting for nine days (wait . . . but A.J. Burnett gets to pitch every five days?) The Yankees ignored Hughes’ 10-1 record and instead looked at his innings, which they would like to keep at around 175.
At least Hughes is going to start again Sunday and then the Friday before the All-Star break on normal rest. Girardi might even let him throw an inning in the All-Star Game.
He said the rules allow it.
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LOL so the Yankees ruined Joba, yeah ok. What was the point of this pointless article?
Betsy, Skip Bayless is a stoned Bostonian….He adores everything that is Boston……Of course he’d love for the Yanks to make that trade…….He’s a hump in a Brooks Brothers wool suit
Tyler-
1. I think Aviles is a better player than both hinske and hairston and is a good fit for the yanks depends on what the royals is asking for… we will see
2. I hope Johnson come back sometime this season and is effective as a hitter, but, that’s prolly being optimistic
3. Jeter looks ‘old’ @ SS and @ the plate, Grandy has been clutch on several occasions, but overall looks like a platoon player. but, too much negativities… just don’t get the same vibes about our offense as last year. hopefully they will prove me wrong.
Pat M, he’s AWFUL and this is only the latest in a string of unbelievably stupid comments. His brother is a famous chef (love his food), so I can’t believe they are related, lol. Honestly? I have no clue how he even as a job. I only found out about this because I was googling stuff – I don’t watch crap on ESPN, lol.l
Pauly-
I like Aviles alot too. My main point is don’t expect a huge blockbuster trade but rather a trade that makes sense with a low-level mid type prospect going the other way
I just hope NJ can come back. People forget that when he is going well he has over a .400 OBP. Even when he wasn’t hitting he was drawing a ton of walks and getting on base. That’s what the offense needs right now
Jeter concerns me but he has always broken out of it in the past so I trust him. He seems like the type of guy who when he realizes he doesn’t have it anymore will just retire. He doesn’t need to hang around just for the heck of it. Grandy needs to improve against lefties that’s for sure. He is such a dynamic player (probably the most on the team if you take a combo of speed and power). Him getting hot would be huge.
Honestly, last July 1st the Yanks offense was slumping also. They got shut out by the Nationals at home in June last year I remember. The same ocmplaints were on the blog then. Granted Matsui and Damon helped things out but i have faith they pull it out again.