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Gardner back in left

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 01, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Brett Gardner LF
Ramiro Pena 3B

LHP CC Sabathia

Right now the bullpen is listed the same as yesterday, with no Dustin Moseley.



53 Responses to “Gardner back in left”

  1. Shame Spencer July 1st, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Whoa.. easy there Chad.. its not even 10:30am yet!


    # Shame Spencer July 1st, 2010 at 10:18 am

    upstatekate – that makes sense and all, but then someone needs to explain to me how the name ‘Rodriguez’ is still printed on every players jersey (named Rodriguez, of course).

    Nick Johnson? Guy is busy grooming his facial hair.

  2. upstate kate July 1st, 2010 at 10:21 am

    wow Chad you are working OT w/ all the new posts :)

    good to see GGBG back in the line up

  3. CountryClub July 1st, 2010 at 10:22 am

    A couple of tidbits from kevin Goldstein (via RAB):

    “Jesus Montero has just started to hit this year, batting .287/.330/.511 in June,” says KG, “but for a 20-year-old in Triple-A, he remains one of the more impressive offensive prospects in the game, with barrel control and raw power well beyond his years. Few scouts I’ve talked to have lowered their scouting scores in any way.”

    Hector Noesi: “He doesn’t have a pitch that any scout would put a 60 on, but his fastball has average to plus movement with some cutting action, his curveball is solid, his change is good, and he absolutely pounds the strike zone and pitches without fear … It’s not a crazy high ceiling, but Noesi sure looks like a major-league starter and could be a nice trade chip in the coming month.”

  4. Jim July 1st, 2010 at 10:23 am

    This past week has proven that the Yankees are a different team without their Engine #9. Without Gardner the Yankee lineup is pretty one dimensional.

  5. upstate kate July 1st, 2010 at 10:25 am

    check back on the last post, Compass Rosy has an explanation for us regarding Ichiro

  6. LGY July 1st, 2010 at 10:28 am

    “They’re a full game in up the division compared to last season’s two-and-a-half run deficit on July 1st, and even though they’ve scored 13 fewer runs, they’ll allowed 44 fewer as well.

    At 47-30, the Yanks need to go 4-7 over the next week and a half to finish the first half with the same 51-37 record as last year.”

  7. Shame Spencer July 1st, 2010 at 10:30 am

    kate + compass – thanks for the responses!! Thats actually a really interesting story.. I was just always so confused why he was the only player allowed to do that.

  8. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Noesi and Nova are essentially the same pitcher. Whoever, Noesi is more of a strikeout pitcher. I think either one would transition into a bullpenner. Nova had two 1 inning scoreless games with NYY earlier.

    Both through change-ups, sliders, curves and a 92-94 MPH fastball. Take your pick and move one in a trade. Both are on the 40 man roster. Sanchez has a big fastball and slider and zero control. Brian Bruney-type. Move him. Sadly, Wilkin deLaRosa has regressed tremendously. Too bad, because he really showed promise as a hard throwing lefty. While Gaudin isn’t much, Moseley is even less.

  9. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Both ***throw*** change-ups, sliders

  10. Joe from Long Island July 1st, 2010 at 10:39 am

    Didn’t see the new thread –

    Good morning, all ?

    1. Tough game last night. At least I did myself a favor by not looking at the in-game thread. The dopey comments, combined by lack of useful information actually posted, makes it not worthwhile. Mornings are much better here.

    2. Yes, the Joba controversy and how everybody on the Yankees failed him. Revisionist history at it?s finest. Well, Joba failed Joba. Having worked with young people in training for over twenty years, I can say unequivocally that you have to want it, really want to be good, in whatever you do. Phil Hughes has demonstrated that drive. Joba still has to. It?s that simple. Whatever happened that night in Texas in 2008 is ancient history. Joba has to get it done now, in 2010.

    3. Who goes out to make room for Mosely, Logan or Gaudin? I think Gaudin ? Mosely can fill that spot, and Logan is lefthanded.

  11. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Actually, Nova had 2 relief appearances over 3 innings. 0 runs, 0 walks, 1 strikeout, but 4 hits.

  12. Joe from Long Island July 1st, 2010 at 10:41 am

    GB7 – good morning and thanks for the minor league pitching update.

  13. CountryClub July 1st, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Noesi will have more value than Nova because, as you mentioned, he strikes more people out. Nova’s motion has very little deception too.

  14. Patrick July 1st, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Thanks for the info GB7, it’s nice to hear from someone that has actually seen these guys pitch.

  15. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:45 am

    Patrick, although it’s nice that Nova, as little as it is, has some MLB experience, he;s the one I’d trade. Noesi is more of a strikeout pitcher with better control (slightly), and neither have been home run plagued. I’d keep Noesi. They are the same age.

  16. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Any time, Joe. Is wifey letting you plan the family summer outings, or, is she too smart to let that happen again?

    Hope your weather continues to be good.

  17. SJ44 July 1st, 2010 at 10:48 am

    The Yankees definitely have chips in the system to be used for trade.

    The problem is, a lot of teams are still in playoff contention and that may limit the pool of available useful players.

    Going to be an interesting three weeks leading up to the deadline.

  18. CountryClub July 1st, 2010 at 10:48 am

    If you’re taking one of them and putting them in the pen, I agree that Noesi would be the better option.

    But, if other teams see him as a starter (especially NL teams), he could be worth more to the Yanks as a trade chip.

  19. LGY July 1st, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Talked a little about it last night but no one was really around.

    I didn’t realize Wilson Ramos was having such a dreadful season in AAA. With the season he is having do you guys think he can still be the centerpiece in a trade for Lee?

    Also, do the Twins have anyone else in their farm that would be good enough to center a trade around for Lee?

  20. JM July 1st, 2010 at 10:51 am

    It would be a bit of a disappointment to me, actually, if they finished with the same first half record as last year, considering the much hotter start this time around. Also I don’t think it’s likely they’ll be as dominating in the second half as last year’s team, which really had a pretty phenomenal run.

  21. Dassit - HUP HOLLAND July 1st, 2010 at 10:53 am

    Is Moseley really such an upgrade over Gaudin or Logan? I mean, they both suck. Bringing him up so that he won’t use that opt-out and leave the organization? C’mon, we probably have some other options in Scranton to have someone fill in as the mop-up guy besides Moseley. I would rather see them giving Albaladejo another chance.

  22. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:54 am

    The Yanks have a lot of very good arms, most of them about the same age. For the most part, Nova and Noesi are ground ball pitchers. Right now, he and David Phelps are the most complete of the advanced pitchers. Mcallister is having sort of a tough period of adjustment, but, I like him. If there was room for him, David Phelps could survive pretty well in AAA. way too early for Betances and Brackman to be up there.

  23. AL Duque July 1st, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Get ready for a five game winning streak!


  24. LGY July 1st, 2010 at 10:54 am


    I agree, but I don’t think they are going to go 4-7 over the next week and a half.

  25. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 10:56 am

    I can certainly see how a team with a 102 wins would be an embarras sment to any fan.

  26. SJ44 July 1st, 2010 at 10:57 am


    The Twins have David Plouffe (ss-3b) and Ben Revere (of) as two chips they could use in a Lee deal.

    Both guys are very good prospects.

    The sleeper team for Lee IMO are the Reds.

    They have the chips to do a deal and their owner wants to win this year.

    If they get Lee, they could win their division.

  27. champ809 July 1st, 2010 at 11:07 am

    the Reds are def the sleeper team here as they have quite a few bats and arms that would interest Seattle in Hanigan,Francisco,Alonso,Valeika and Frazier as well as Bailey and Wood in the arms department.

    A ‘ro of Lee/Volquez/Cueto/Arroyo/Harang with Chapman/Rhodes/Cordero may just push them ahead of the Cards in the Central to stay this season…

  28. champ809 July 1st, 2010 at 11:12 am

    If I were Jack Z a package of Hanigan/Alonso/Frazier and a pitcher would be very attractive to me….

    The Mets would have to give me FMart/Flores/Famiglia + to top it…..

  29. Wave Your Hat July 1st, 2010 at 11:13 am

    If the Nationals were to make Josh Willingham available the Yanks ought to be an active bidder. There would be an active market for him but he would be worth giving up prospects for.

  30. GreenBeret7 July 1st, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Yonder Alonzo had better start producing more than he has to be anybody’s “center piece”. No matter how you shake it out, he hasn’t been very impressive in his 1 and a half years.

  31. austinmac July 1st, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Today, about 11 teams could probably conclude and have their fan base agree they are out of the race and need to look to the future. Than leaves 19 teams that may be looking to upgrade. I agree competition for players, especially for the bullpen will be fierce. Every team is looking, as usual, for relief help. Bullpen is not an area the Yankees can readily use their economic might since one doesn’t want to go spend a lot of money on a 7th or 8th inning guy.

    I wonder if that will cause the Yankees to try to upgrade in other areas that may have more readily available options.

    I hope Lee goes to the National League to a team that wants him as a one year rental. He would dramatically change a playoff series with someone like the Twins.

  32. champ809 July 1st, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Banuelos activated in Tampa yesterday…..Looks like Kontos may move to Trenton and Phelps to Scranton….

  33. PaulyPizza July 1st, 2010 at 11:30 am

    i thought the yanks could use a guy like Russell Branyan , but…. I don’t what Cashman’s thoughts at the trade deadline might be, but it looks like we could use a legit DH and some Bench help. Marcus thames is a split DH which makes his role extremely limit. the motley collection of Curtis, Huffman, Ramiro and Russo are pretty terrible consider bench options, without exception of Colin Curtis, who prolly can come off the bench with a few line drives here and there. Huffman’s at bats looks horrible, no discipline and pull happy! heh, kinda like Granderson and Tex! so what do you guys think whom we should go after, i personally like Royals Aviles, but that’s just one name.

  34. Giuseppe Franco July 1st, 2010 at 11:33 am

    I hope Lee does get traded to the Reds. That might be the best case scenario for the Yanks.

    No chance of him helping the Mets or an AL opponent.

    The Reds are not a team that would scare me in the least, with or without Lee.

  35. Billy D July 1st, 2010 at 11:46 am

    From Rotoworld via Jim Duquette:

    According to Jim Duquette of Sirius XM Radio and MLB Network, Cliff Lee told people around the club that Tuesday may have been his last start as a Mariner.

    There’s always the chance that it could be, as Mariners general manager Jack Zduriencik would be silly to turn down an offer that he deems appropriate. It’s no shock. Of all the names we will hear bandied about over the next month, Lee is the most likely one to go.

  36. upstate kate July 1st, 2010 at 11:49 am

    wouldn’t it be nice if Cliffy was traded to a NL team before the Yankees head out to Seattle!

  37. Giuseppe Franco July 1st, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Of all the names we will hear bandied about over the next month, Lee is the most likely one to go.


    We’ve heard this a lot the past couple of years, especially Halladay at this time last year.

    Soriano was another one a few years back. The guy most likely to be traded isn’t always traded.

  38. Joe from Long Island July 1st, 2010 at 11:57 am

    The Giants traded Bengie Molina to the Rangers, for Chris Ray.

    Interesting on two fronts – the Giants are handing the catching position to the rookie Buster Posey. And, that the Rangers feel the need to upgrade catcher. Wasn’t too long ago that the Rangers were felt to be deep at C, with Teegarden and Saltamacchia young, up, and coming.

    I guess it shows the risks one takes by relying unproven players (do the Yankees trade one of their young C prospects, or hold them tighter?). And the risk the Giants are taking by relying on Posey.

  39. Clare July 1st, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    Hey GB7, How are you feeling these days?

    SJ, How’s Tony?

  40. CountryClub July 1st, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Slow day around here.

  41. PaulyPizza July 1st, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    will we have the money to sign Lee in the off season? with Jeter and Rivera contracts looming , am I the only one who think Jeter will ask for king’s random and leave little in the coffer for anyone else.

  42. Irreverent Discourse July 1st, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    at this point in his career, what would lead you towards thinking jeter will be greedy?

  43. Bronx Jeers July 1st, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    If you’re a smoker living in NYC and you haven’t bought cigarettes today, prepare yourself for a bit of sticker shock.

    12.00$ and up now.

  44. CountryClub July 1st, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Jeter and Rivera are already making huge money. They’re salaries next yr will probably match what they;re making this yr.

    But you have Vazquez and Park’s money coming off (and possibly Pettitte). There will also be raises to Cano, granderson, Joba & Hughes. But, if they want Lee, they’ll be able to get him.

  45. Joe from Long Island July 1st, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    So, if someone has a 2-pack a day habit, that’s $24 and up per day. Over $168 per week. Over $8700 per year, or only $4400 if you only do a pack a day.

    Wow. Talk about a reason to quit.

  46. G. Love July 1st, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Joe From LI,

    Seeing the Rangers trade for Bengie Molina is proof enough that over hyping prospects is out of control in this day and age.

    They had, supposedly, 3 of the best catching prospects in the game who they constantly refused to trade because they weren’t getting top flight talent for them.

    And then yesterday they have to trade for Bengie Molina.

    I’m not saying that’s what is going to happen here with all the young players and catchers we have, but I am saying that we better deal some of them for proven talent that can help us win championships.

    Betting heavy on players in the minor leagues is foolhardy. Cashman knows this…I think.

    I mean, this off season we were treated to sky is falling posts about trading the great Arodys Vizcaino and how he’s going to be a #1 starter and he’s the best arm in our system…and now he has a partial tear in his elbow and is out for awhile.

    That’s the danger in taking low A ball guys and building them up to be “can’t miss” until they are ready to step on the field in the bigs and compete.

  47. LGY July 1st, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    It is interesting when you think about the talk about the strict Yankee budget last winter. It seemed that they didn’t have much money to play with.

    But, they went tried to trade for Halladay. Where was the money coming from to extend Halladay if the budget was so strict?

    I still think Hal just wants to play for quality and that is what the budget is about. If the money was there for Halladay last offseason, it should be there for Lee this upcoming offseason.

  48. PaulyPizza July 1st, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    i don’t think Jeter will be Greedy per se, but the yankees hierarchy has made statements recently that leave them with zero and little negotiating leverage with Jee and Mo. i could easily see yanks giving jeter 4=100 mil or 120 mil deal, which prolly would eliminate the possibility of Lee. but i guess we will have to wait and see.

  49. G. Love July 1st, 2010 at 12:21 pm


    The money will definitely be there for Lee this off season. The Yankees can look ahead at the potential free agent starter crops and see this is their last chance for a few years to get this kind of pitcher for money alone.

    I agree with you that if Hal was willing to sign off on Halladay this off season, that means he was willing to go above the budget they actually ended up with. Halladay would have cost a lot more than Javy does.

    This team will spend, but it’s trying not to spend unwisely. That’s why I think when they go into the off season they will pass on Crawford and Werth and sign Lee.

    I think Crawford and Werth both feel like, to me, the kind of deals you’re going to regret later.

    The Yankees have a good OF as it stands. If they decide to use prospects to improve it and part ways with Granderson (which I can see happening if he doesn’t improve), they can bring back a big piece.

    I threw out the idea in here yesterday of shipping Granderson to LA for Kemp (who is wearing out his welcome there). If we offered them Granderson and some good prospects, I don’t think that’s a deal that’s so outlandish.

  50. G. Love July 1st, 2010 at 12:25 pm


    Jeter may not be greedy, but I can assure you he has an exact number of dollars and years in his head and he’s not going to take anything less.

    4 years is too many right now, but they gave Jorge a 4th year at a similar stage/age so he’ll probably get it.

    If he asks the team for 25 million per year, that’s hard to swallow. He couldn’t get that money anywhere else in this league. If the Yankees blow their payroll out like that on him at this stage of his career it’s a silly move.

    He’ll get his money, but giving him 100 million for 4 years is outlandish.

  51. PaulyPizza July 1st, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    @LGY , i think Hal is def fiscally more responsible than his predecessor. when Halladay was available last winter, i think the yanks had yet to commit financial commitment to Pettite or Javy vasq. the two combine salaries prolly covers what Roy made this year. I have no idea what the yanks budget for next year is, but hopefully we have enough money to spread it around.

  52. LGY July 1st, 2010 at 12:32 pm


    I definitely agree with GLove that the money will be there for Lee.

    Will it be basically a blank check like when they went after CC? Probably not nor should it because Lee is a few years older.

  53. PaulyPizza July 1st, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    @G love
    I am in agreement with 4 for 100 mil is outlandish sum . But let’s be honest, if Jeter ask for that, i can’t see yanks telling him to take a hike.

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