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Pregame notes: Injury progress

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Jul 03, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees Tigers BaseballBefore Joe Girardi said a word during today’s pregame interview, the turned the floor over to media relations director Jason Zillo for a four-part injury report.

Marcus Thames
Already mentioned that Thames could be back with the Yankees as early as tomorrow. The timing is a bit odd considering the Yankees face right-handed starters in the next three games, but at the very least Thames gives the Yankees a veteran on the bench. Last night he played seven innings in the field for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, and he’s scheduled for nine innings today.

Sergio Mitre
After a 10-pitch inning yesterday, Mitre went to the Tampa bullpen to throw 10 more pitches. He’s scheduled for a two-inning outing with Tampa on Monday. Girardi said it’s “reasonable to assume” that Mitre will be ready to join the team after the all-star break. Doesn’t seem likely to happen before then.

Alfredo Aceves
Monday will be his first “advanced” bullpen session. Aceves is scheduled for 40 to 45 pitches off a full mound. He will throw all of his pitches. It’s a significant step, but Aceves remains behind Mitre and the team is still planning to move slowly because of the nature of the back injury and because Aceves has already missed so much time.

Nick Johnson
Remember him? Johnson is scheduled to take dry swings with a light fungo bat this afternoon. It’s possible he’ll hit up to 20 balls of a tee. If that goes well, Johnson will leave for Tampa to continue his rehab down there. He’s not ready for games — not even close — but this is the beginning of baseball activities. Girardi said Johnson is “weeks” from rejoining the team. “This is a process we understand is going to take a while,” Girardi said.

• Hardly a surprise to hear him say it, but Girardi said he remains confident that Joba Chamberlain can handle the eighth inning.

• Girardi said his role is “pretty much done” in picking the all-star team. Because of teams not represented, he was only able to freely select a handful of players.

• Any pitcher who starts on the Sunday before the All-Star Game will not be eligible for the game. Girardi, though, said he did not hesitate to pick a Sunday starter. If a guy pitches that day, he will simply be replaced. “I don’t think a player should be punished for pitching on Sunday,” Girardi said. “If he’s an all-star, he’s an all-star.”

• Yankees who made the team will find out from Girardi tomorrow, right around the same time the rosters are announced publicly. Girardi wouldn’t tell us who made it. Jerk.

Associated Press photo of Mitre

 
 

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54 Responses to “Pregame notes: Injury progress”

  1. mick July 3rd, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Perfection is highly over-rated and looking for it is very unsatisfying, because it doesn’t exist and ends up leaving you unsatisfied even when things turn out well, because they didn’t turn out perfectly all along the way.
    =======================================
    To quote the great writer, Doreen.
    Well said. Bravo!

  2. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    • Hardly a surprise to hear him say it, but Girardi said he remains confident that Joba Chamberlain can handle the eighth inning.”

    It’s becoming comical.

  3. Nick in SF July 3rd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    ” Last night [Thames] played seven innings in the field for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, and he’s scheduled for nine innings today.”

    Scranton fans are in for a treat.

  4. Giuseppe Franco July 3rd, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Girardi is a player’s manager. What’s he going to say?

    He sticks by his guys and they often reward him.

    Time will tell if that ever happens with Joba.

  5. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    When is the deadline for sending Joba to the mL without going through waivers?

  6. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    “Girardi is a player’s manager. What’s he going to say?”

    At least he could wink when he says it…

  7. Giuseppe Franco July 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    At least he could wink when he says it…

    ———-

    Yeah, I’m sure that would go over well with his clubhouse.

    You’d be a hellvua manager.

  8. mick July 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Hairston, Hinske, Melky, Molina,Coke,Matsui, Damon—OUT

    Huffman,Granderson,Cervelli,Curtis,Johnson,Park——IN

    Which group would you rather have?

    Did I leave anyone out?

  9. Billy D July 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Rich:

    See Olney’s piece this morning on how difficult finding reliable bullpen help will be? Joe G probably knows what Olney knows and then some. As a reliable replacement will be exceedingly difficult to find, you may as well at least feign confidence in the guy you’ve got.

  10. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    melladie -

    I wasn’t talking about 1998; I was talking about 2010. The teams are very different, parity is more prevalent. 1998 was a long time ago. And a magical season, to boot. You don’t expect those kinds of seasons – those are gifts from the baseball gods.

    pat -

    Thanks, that’s nice to say. :)

    And now, I’m out for a bit.

    Let’s Go Yankees!

  11. mick July 3rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Thanks for ignoring, Doreen.

  12. Nick in SF July 3rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    If only we had Molina…

    Sharp.

  13. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Billy D

    I realize there are constraints on what Girardi can say publicly, but since I’m not under the same constraints, I can’t help but find what he says to be amusing.

    I read Olney. He said there were no relievers of the caliber that Lee is as a starter. That’s why I would lean (not firm) toward trading for Lee in a package centered around Romine and using a starter as a reliever.

    My overarching point about Joba is that I still believe in his talent and I think the Yankees are wasting it for reasons of expediency. He should be Halladay’d.

  14. m July 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Hey, Polly! I can be Anna. :)

    Sorry, this is really bad, but I’m not excited by this news. Although I look forward to having a healthy Aceves back (pun intended ;) )

    Doreen, be right back with a link especially for you.

  15. the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    we have Darth Helmet , Cerved!

  16. mick July 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    If only we had Molina…

    Sharp.
    =================
    Why the need to put down? I mean, always.
    Smugness is not a virtue.
    Why don’t you ever make a suggestion? Not cool enough?

  17. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    “Yeah, I’m sure that would go over well with his clubhouse”

    It’s good to see that sarcasm isn’t lost on you.

    “You’d be a hellvua manager.”

    If I can’t wear the cap backwards, nfw.

  18. m July 3rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Oh, and agreed on Halladaying Joba.

    Yes, we need him, but there’s 1 month left before his magic date.

    Bite the bullet and send him down. The Yankees and Joba will eventually be better for it.

  19. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    m

    Don’t beat around the bush. What’s the deadline date????

  20. Giuseppe Franco July 3rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Rich,

    When you say a number of things that are way out there, it’s often difficult to decipher sarcasm from your honest opinion.

    It’s too bad realty is often lost on you.

  21. the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 3rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    2007 Joba might have been a mirage.
    I see a chubby dude with good stuff and no control. Minor league is a good option at this point, cept i don’t think the yanks will ever do it. so it’s kinda of moot.

  22. Nick in SF July 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    You want a suggestion? Relax.

    You want another one? Don’t question people’s fandom if they don’t react to what they see the same way you do.

  23. SJ44 July 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Here is the problem with “Halladay-ing” Joba.

    Roy Halladay went down to A Ball to completely change the way he pitched.

    Arm slot, windup, type of pitches he throws.

    I was a part owner of his A Ball team at that time.

    He completely remade himself.

    You can’t do that with Joba.

    Do you really think you can change Joba’s arm slot and make him a fastball, cutter, changeup pitcher from a 3/4 arm slot?

    Not gonna happen.

  24. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    “When you say a number of things that are way out there, it’s often difficult to decipher sarcasm from your honest opinion.

    It’s too bad realty is often lost on you.”

    k…..whatever. You take the internet way too seriously.

  25. mick July 3rd, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    Some fans are just more passionate and care more than others.

  26. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    SJ

    What you can do is to try to make his arm slot and mechanics more consistent. You can re-educate him on his approach to various batters in various counts in differing game situations. You can work on all of his pitches. In the process, the most important ingredient for success in life may be found: confidence. Along with a renewed commitment and focus. And you can find him a new teacher that may be able to reach him.

    The alternatives are worse.

  27. m July 3rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Ack, can’t do 2 links in one page.

    Doreen,

    I believe they’re taking reservations already, 1 year in advance of the opening. Here’s the link if you want to preview the resort:

    http://resorts.disney.go.com/aulani-hawaii-resort/

  28. SJ44 July 3rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Joba has options left. He doesn’t have to pass thru waivers to be sent to the minors.

    Mick,

    Every team that wins a WS makes changes.

    If Jeter, Arod, Tex, Posada, Granderson and Joba were performing at their levels, would you be pining for guys right now?

    That’s the problem and not the players who are no longer here.

  29. Giuseppe Franco July 3rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    k…..whatever. You take the internet way too seriously.

    ———-

    I wasn’t the one who had a problem with Girardi backing his player.

  30. m July 3rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Rich in NJ,

    According to this RAB piece, August 7th. Click to read why. I’ve only mentioned it 5 times already. :)

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/…..lem-23835/

  31. blake July 3rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Sending Joba down for a full rework may be the only course of action at some point but even if that becomes reality I don’t think we can expect it to have the same effect on him as it did on Halladay. Its just as likely that it does nothing or even makes things worse as it is to help him IMO.

    Either way I think its a decision for the offseason because at the moment, hes still the 2nd most talented arm in that bullpen. Even if they do trade for a setup guy, he still could help them if he could get it together. I think you take the label off his role and just try and get him pitching better this season.

  32. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    “I wasn’t the one who had a problem with Girardi backing his player.”

    Again, Girardi can do the good manager thing until, as Bill Clinton would say, the last dog dies, but it’s laughable right now.

    One definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing that isn’t working. It’s not working, and he (they) is/are still doing it.

  33. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Thanks, m!

  34. SJ44 July 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Rich,

    The problem isn’t the teacher. It’s the pupil.

    Until the pupil makes changes, there is nothing the teachers can do.

    Do you not think they have tried everything with him?

    No player on this team has had more one to one work than Joba Chamberlain the past two+ years.

    Sending him to the minors won’t help him.

    All he will do is dominate minor league hitters with sliders and that’s the LAST thing you want.

    At this point, you can only do so much with him.

    He won’t listen to anybody. That’s why the chances of him remaining a Yankee long term diminishes by the day.

  35. m July 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    NP, Rich.

    CR9,

    We can test the Red Sox Aura Theory today.

    Nick Green and his .145 avg. are batting leadoff today. If he reverts to historical stinkiness, then we know there’s something about the uni. Or something in the water. :)

  36. Trigger July 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    How does Lee help us compensate for the awful bullpen and spotty offense?

    Yesterday, if he went 8 IP, 2 ER, 10 Ks…. he would have still lost.

    I can see the idea of strengthening other areas in order to compensate for our weaknesses (especially if the solutions to them are exceedingly hard to find), but you are not going to go very far with no reliable arms out of the pen.

  37. Ace July 3rd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Granderson has been a huge disappointment.

  38. Mark July 3rd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Unless Hughes, CC, Lee, Andy are going to go 8 every night, you would still need to address the 8th inning.

  39. m July 3rd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    We’ll score 2 runs more often than give up 2 runs or less. Not that I’m advocating for a Lee trade right now.

  40. SJ44 July 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Confusing passion with panic is a common theme on here.

  41. Giuseppe Franco July 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    One definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing that isn’t working. It’s not working, and he (they) is/are still doing it.

    ————

    Yes, I’m well aware of Einstein’s quote.

    And the problem with your solution is you have none.

    You have to replace Joba with somebody and they don’t have anyone to replace him with.

    So, until they do, what choice does Girardi have, pray tell?

  42. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    SJ

    Let’s say it is the pupil. They haven’t tried what I’m suggesting, and what they have tried isn’t working.

    So why not at least try the mL route? What do they have to lose?

    And btw, I have spent way too much time in school. I have sometimes had good teachers, who just didn’t reach me. It wasn’t their fault. But then in a subsequent more advanced class, I had a teacher who was able to communicate the material in such a way, that the stuff I didn’t get in an intro calls suddenly made sense.

    It could happen with him. It may not. But it could.

  43. blake July 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    “Granderson has been a huge disappointment.”

    so are your posts.

  44. Nick in SF July 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    SJ, devil’s advocate, but if the problem now is solely the pupil and his attitude, couldn’t a trip to Trenton be a wakeup call for him?

    Unfortunately, it hurts the big club if there’s no one as good as Joba is right now ready to replace him.

  45. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    “So, until they do, what choice does Girardi have, pray tell?”

    I would use Robertson in the 8th (only for one inning at a time). I think he has sucked the least lately.

  46. the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Beltre 346 avg, and point behind Cano. helluva a year for him!
    who do we have in AAA that might help? Nova, ABBA, Sanchez? can’t hurt to try some of those guys out and maybe DFA chop, gaudin?
    read on RAB about possibilities of Eduardo Nunez coming up for Pena, would be interest to see him , as he is the closest thing to a Jeet replacement.

  47. BD (Boston Dave) July 3rd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    I have a good feeling about this game.

    Yanks win 6-3

  48. Moo July 3rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Don’t know why people are shocked that Granderson is struggling in his first year with NY. I mean that never happens right?

  49. austinmac July 3rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Perhaps, some hear passion but attribute it to panic. One can suggest the Yankees need to improve their bench and bullpen without doing so in a panic. I have been watching since 1960, and I recognize the season is long. I also recognize this team does not have a championship bench or bullpen. They didn’t last year either at this time. They fixed it with Hughes in the pen, and adding bench pieces.

    Are their people on this board who don’t think these pieces need to be fixed?

  50. SJ44 July 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Until they have a major league pitcher to replace him on the roster, sending Joba down hurts more than helps.

  51. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    A minor seback.

  52. Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Or setback.

  53. the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    J Bautista smoked that one !

  54. the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 3rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    this could be the game Right here ! Hill vs Petitte.


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