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Kevin Long: “It’s just an exhausting process”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Podcast on Jul 07, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Kevin Long understands the appeal of the home run derby, but he left no doubt yesterday: If he had his way, Robinson Cano would not be participating.

“I would prefer that he’s not involved in it, but that’s not my decision,” the Yankees hitting coach said. “…It’s just an exhausting process. It takes a lot out of you. It’s taxing. You see guys come back after the home run contest and it affects their swing.”

Long isn’t worried about Cano coming back suddenly hitting nothing but fly balls, but he’s worried that the exhaustion of trying to hit home run after home run might lead to subtle changes. The contest, he said, is a big difference from batting practice. Cano will be trying “launch” every pitch.

“It’s not so much altering a swing,” Long said. “You know he’s going to try to pull the ball quite a bit. I don’t think it’s going to affect his swing more than it’s just going to take a toll on his body.”

Joe Girardi said pretty much the exact same thing — “For me it’s fatigue because I don’t think Robby would change a whole lot,” Girardi said — but Alex Rodriguez said he would recommend Cano take advantage of the opportunity. He sees no harm in the derby.

“I’m not going with the mind to just hit the ball the farthest or anything like that,” Cano said. “Just go out there like I swing in BP. Regular swing and don’t try to do too much.”

Here’s Long talking about Cano in the derby.

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And here’s Cano.

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383 Responses to “Kevin Long: “It’s just an exhausting process””

  1. paul canales July 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    See? Told you Cano’s gonna go with a BP mentality! Well, he’ll try anyway.

  2. Erin July 7th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Ledger_Yankees RT @BryanHoch: @NickSwisher regains top spot by less than one percentage point over Kevin Youkilis in AL Final Vote

    Send Swish!!!

  3. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    SJ44,

    You are seriously dreaming if you think Brackman has been pitching like a legit top end starting pitcher this year.

    Scouts tell you this stuff? What scouts?

    Everything I’ve heard from actual sources indicate that Brackman has been inconsistent this year. His fastball is good, breaking ball not so much.

    You’ve been high on Brackman since he was drafted but I don’t see where the hype is coming from. He has a good fastball but that’s about it.

  4. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    “And suggesting his value is even in the same galaxy as Lee is absurd.”

    —————————–

    I am not WYH, but it is not absurd at all.

    It is not about just saying Cliff Lee is a better player than Willingham so he will cost much more on the trade market.

    Not the way it works.

    Supply and demand, the fact that Willingham is under team control for 1.5 more seasons, and the Nationals have no urgent need to trade him could make a package for him quite costly.

  5. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    SEND SWISH! Voting another 100 times today.

  6. vey July 7th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Wait until word gets out Yuk is nursing an ankle problem, Swish will forge ahead.

  7. Rich in NJ July 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    My post to WYH on the other thread was eated, but to extend his you have to break eggs to make omelets analogy:

    They have already traded AJack, IPK, and Coke for Granderson.

    If you believe that the deficit caused by his inability to hit LHP is so great that you have to trade Romine/Brackman for Willingham to cure it (I don’t), you are breaking too many eggs for too few omelets.

  8. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Nobody said Willingham’s value is the same as Cliff Lee’s. But Willingham’s value to the Yanks is more than Cliff Lee’s value to the Yanks… this year anyways. They need a right handed OF that can hit at a high level. They don’t really need another starting pitcher.

    Willingham is hitting like an all-star this year, is under team control in 2011 and is a right handed power hitter, something that is rare in today’s game. He will go for at least 1 A-list prospect, if not more. Which is why I suggested Romine and Brackman as that is 1 A list, 1 B list.

    There will be a lot of teams trying to get Willingham, if the Yanks want him they’ll have to give up some good players.

  9. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Patrick the thing with brackman is that Yankees drafted him knowing it would be a LONG PROCESS for him to get his things together.

    It’s taken longer then expected but they are now seeing what they had predicted, Great Fastball just needs more command.

    He doesn’t have the best stats this year, but health is what they wanted to see, they love his build. Now next step is consistency, which is pretty much there barring any future injuries.

  10. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Looks like LeBron, Wade and Bosh are headed to Miami.

    All three will be on max contracts, so they’re pretty much gonna be playing with minimum salary filler.

  11. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    For some reason I get E-mails from the Red Sox…

    At 10:40 I get one from them “Get Youk back into first place!”

    At 10:41 I get one from the Yanks, “Yankees Universe has Swisher back in first place over Youkilis and Red Sox Nation”

    Let’s keep it going.

  12. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Dude there is no way Lebron goes to Miami and plays second fiddle to Wade. No way.

  13. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    Patrick,

    Two Seattle scouts, an Angels scout and a Marlins scout have raved about Brackman.

    The guy is throwing 93-95, with a hammer curveball, good slider and a developing changeup.

    He’s 6-10, athletic and his delivery has been solid and consistent for two months.

    He and Dellin Betances are the only two guys in the organization right now scouts view as #1 and #2 starter ceilings.

    He’s in Trenton now. Take the opportunity to see him pitch. You will like what you see.

  14. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    If anyone’s interested in basketball, then I would like to recommend Joel Sherman’s blog post today. It’s an interesting take on the LeBron derby in particular, as well as sports and life in general.

    Made me think of Cash’s call that LeBron goes to the Knicks.

  15. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    # Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Dude there is no way Lebron goes to Miami and plays second fiddle to Wade. No way.

    —————-

    That’s the hottest rumor right now, but we’ll know for sure tomorrow. Wade and Bosh seem like a done deal, at the very least.

  16. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    I’m just not sold on Brackman. I don’t see how you can call him an A-list prospect when he’s pitching to a 5.00 ERA in A+ and AA. He’s not even striking a lot of hitters out.

    I know the stats don’t really matter in A ball but once you get to AA they do matter. Until Brackman shows he can dominate AA hitters I will never see him as anything more than a relief prospect that will be lucky to hit the big leagues by the time he’s 25.

  17. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 11:48 am

    Wave,

    Full disclosure….

    Josh Willingham is a friend of mine. He’s a great guy and would love to play for the Yankees.

    They were looking at him last year but, his brother tragically died in an accident and he was really not in good shape mentally to deal with baseball.

    That said, they can’t trade Austin Romine for him.

    Its one thing if Gary Sanchez is in High A Ball tearin’ it up right now.

    If that was the case, and they were convinced (which they are not) Montero can be an everyday catcher in the majors, that’s a different story.

    In fact, there have been rumors the past couple of weeks the Yankees have been looking at veteran catching help at the major league level.

    If that’s true, and they swing a deal for a veteran catcher, that would tell me two things:

    1. Posada’s going to be the DH for most of the rest of the year.
    2. They are looking to trade for Cliff Lee and will put either Montero or Romine in the deal.

    The only way it makes sense to trade either Montero or Romine is if they have a veteran catcher, not Chad Moeller, on this roster.

    This way, you have one guy (either Montero or Romine) as your upper level catcher of the future, one guy (Sanchez) in the lower levels developing, your major league roster covered with Posada, Cervelli and another veteran catcher, and Cliff Lee in the fold.

    Other than that, I don’t see them leaving themselves short on the catching front.

  18. Rich in NJ July 7th, 2010 at 11:48 am

    You don’t have to be sold on Brackman at this point, but that doesn’t mean that you trade him right now either.

  19. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Following the rumors during this NBA free agency period is about as useful as using this thing:

    NBA Free Agent Slot Machine

    http://espn.go.com/nba/feature.....lotmachine

  20. kr July 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    From June 14 BP

    Andrew Brackman, RHP, Yankees (High-A Tampa): 6 IP, 5 H, 2 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 11 K

    If you were ready to write off Brackman when his ERA sat at a lofty 8.31 after six starts in the Florida State League, that would have been a mistake, as things are starting to really click. He’s been throwing an almost shocking number of strikes all season (7 BB in 55 IP), but his stuff is getting better and better, as the Yankees have put considerable work into nearly every aspect of his game and the results are finally showing up. With a fastball suddenly getting up to 96 mph, two distinct breaking balls and a changeup, Brackman has allowed six runs over 29 innings in his last five starts while whiffing 34, and he’s back on the prospect map.

  21. EricNS July 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am

    I hope it rains and that stupid HR derby is cancelled.

  22. Alex July 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Isn’t Lebron’s announcement going to be on ESPN?

  23. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    LGY July 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Following the rumors during this NBA free agency period is about as useful as using this thing:

    ———————–

    IDK, some of these guys are well connected. I wouldn’t go and follow the tabloids, just the ones with a decent reputation of breaking news.

  24. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    After being down in the low .200s for most of the season, JR Murphy’s starting to get rolling. Average is up to .253 and starting to show some run production.

    Not sure if anybody caught the piece I put on here last night about Heathcott stealing home for the 2nd time this year.

  25. CountryClub July 7th, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Brackman has taken a big leap in the eyes of scouts this yr. I am no fan of the national scouting sites, but the fact is that guys like Goldstein were down on him until they’ve seen him this yr. He has talked very highly about him this yr. Even Law admitted that he’s opened some eyes.

    You dont trade prospects like Romine and Brackman for a guy like Willingham. He’s a solid player but he’ll be 32 next yr.

  26. Alex July 7th, 2010 at 11:59 am

    I think it’d be better if Cano would not participate.

  27. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    vbalde,

    Well connected to who?

    The only one who knows where LeBron is going is LeBron himself and maybe 1 or 2 guys in his inner circle like Maverick Carter.

    It has been that way this entire FA process which is why everyone of these writers have basically said LeBron is going to every team in the NBA at some point or the other.

    ESPN writers are going to leak a lot of stories in the next 24 hours. They want to keep every fan base interested so they have the best ratings come 9 pm tomorrow.

  28. YankeeRay July 7th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 11:41 am
    Dude there is no way Lebron goes to Miami and plays second fiddle to Wade. No way.

    ——–

    Does Lebron James play a mean fiddle? Oh right that was Charlie Daniels.

    LBJ joins Wade and Bosh because if he stays in Cleveland there is no way he wins. South Beach, no state tax, year round golf?
    This will be the new version of the Globetrotters and many will come and play with them just to be a part of it.
    LBJ will be Meadowlark Lemon to Wades Curly Neal.

  29. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    I’ve always felt Chris Bosh was the key to everything. Where he goes, everything else falls into place.

    A few weeks ago, I heard that Riley was working on a deal that would bring Wade, Bosh and LeBron to Miami.

    The “selling point” to LeBron was, three years in Miami and then you can go anywhere, like LA to replace Kobe (where I think he will eventually end his career), play with Wade, Bosh and some other pieces Riley was putting together, and win titles.

    No state income tax in Florida, less attention that being in NY, and a way to ease out of leaving your hometown area.

    Will it work? No idea.

    All I know is, Riley can be VERY convincing when you sit with him in person. LeBron is also very close to the Heat owner Mickey Arison and his son Nick, who now works for the Heat.

    Its going to be interesting to see what he’s going to do. He worked OT to try and get Bosh to accept a sign and trade to Cleveland. That not being the case, going back home, which a nice story, may not be the best basketball decision for him.

    Sometimes, its good to be “The King”. Other times, like making a career changing decision like this? Not so much.

  30. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Patrick-

    Unless Cot’s baseball contracts is inaccurate, Willingham is a FA. Also it’s been rumored that he would like to stay with the Nationals.

    Josh Willingham of
    1 year/$4.6M (2010)

    1 year/$4.6M (2010)
    re-signed by Washington 1/19/10

  31. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    SJ44-

    Interesting stuff.

    If I were the Yanks I’d be looking for a veteran catcher for 2010 too. I don’t think either Montero or Romine is ready to be the man now.

    However, I am opposed to trading one of them for Cliff Lee. Now, the Yanks don’t consult with me before they do their deals, but I would be amazed if they traded Romine or Montero for Lee.

    As good as Lee is, he doesn’t give them as big a marginal advantage as getting a RH hitting OF would, because Hughes or Burnett would have to leave the rotation, or Vazquez traded. And a trade for Vazquez is not bringing back help for 2010.

  32. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Don’t vote for Joey Votto.

    Sure he may even be the most deserving player in the NL but that doesn’t matter.

    You can’t hang your star next to Kevin Youkilis and not expect there to be consequences. :wink:

  33. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Yankee trader,

    Those are arbitration contracts no FA contracts.

    He has one more year of arbitration.

  34. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    ESPN already knows where he is going. Unfortunately, that’s what happens when you become the news instead of breaking the news.

    I bet the deal the LeBron camp cut with ESPN was, “We will give you the exclusive on a couple of conditions. Let us sell ad time so we can donate it to charity, and don’t leak the decision”.

    ESPN probably told them, “Ok, but you have to tell us first so we can prepare to cover reaction from these various cities”.

    Its unfortunate that it becomes a circus. However, when you think about it, its probably inevitable it was going to end up this way.

  35. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    I’m rooting for LeBron to go to the Nets. I refuse to add any negative karma by considering any other outcome.

  36. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    I’m voting 100 times for Willingham/Swish – the moment Votto teamed up with Youkilis, he was persona non grata in my book.

  37. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    # Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    I’m rooting for LeBron to go to the Nets. I refuse to add any negative karma by considering any other outcome.

    ————–

    Here here. It is bleak, but I’m holding out hope.

  38. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Wade gets a 6 year deal, Bosh a five year deal, correct? Unless Miami does a sign and trade with the Cavs James would have to also take a 5 year deal, and still have Miami under the cap? Could there be a scenario in Miami where he could be paid more annually than Wade for a three year deal?

    Signed confused how James can fit under the Miami cap at this point?

  39. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    I now see LeBron landing anywhere but CLE. They just don’t have the partners for him, no superstars or anything.

    Don’t count on Jamison either.

    Imagine if he went to NJ/Miami. Crowd would be hectic.

  40. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    If anyone at ESPN or from LeBron’s camp leaked the decision it would be disastrous.

    The ratings are going to be insane tomorrow night as long as where he is going is still up in the air and LeBron is going to bring a ton of money to charity.

    These guys claiming to know where he is going are clueless. I bet by tonight there is a new ‘hot’ team.

  41. Rick July 7th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    The Home Run Derby can mess up a player’s swing. Ask Bobby Abreu and others.

  42. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    Yankee Trader,

    Heat have salary cap for three max free agents, well almost. They only need to trade Michael Beasly, and can cover the salary for LeBron if that happens.

    They cleared the deck, it only has commitments to Beasley and Mario C.

    So Wade+Bosh doesn’t even complete its cap space, it can either get LBJ or get bunch of Veteran signings with the vet exception which starts at about 5.5 M I believe.

  43. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Wave,

    Only problem is, Seattle would never trade Lee to the Yankees without one of those catchers (whichever one they like best) going back in return. Their catching prospects aren’t at the level of Romine or Montero.

    The Yankees feel pretty strongly they have what Seattle likes to make that deal.

    Pat M was right again when he said Mariner scouts have been to all of the Yankees minor league levels the past several weeks. They now know the system inside and out.

    Teams don’t allocate the resources these days to do that unless there have been more than just cursory discussions about a player.

    Will it amount to anything? No idea.

    Personally, I wouldn’t trade for Lee because I think they are going to sign him in the off-season.

    I wouldn’t want to give up propsects for a guy I feel confident they would sign as a FA.

    However, if other dominoes are falling into the place, its not inconcievable the Yankees make a play for the guy.

  44. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    I think 5.5M is the midlevel exception. I doubt they can get a whole lot of support around 3 max contracts. Those 3 contracts ensure they won’t have any flexibility in case things go south. It’s a risky proposition, if I understand the cap correctly.

  45. YankeeRay July 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    Yankee Trader July 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
    Wade gets a 6 year deal, Bosh a five year deal, correct? Unless Miami does a sign and trade with the Cavs James would have to also take a 5 year deal, and still have Miami under the cap? Could there be a scenario in Miami where he could be paid more annually than Wade for a three year deal?

    Signed confused how James can fit under the Miami cap at this point?

    ——–

    They just need to dump Beasleys salary and then he fits. They would have no cap space left with only 4 players on roster. But the 3 rookies dont count against the cap nor do any players they sign at minimum salary which is somewhere between 1 and 2 mill.
    So in that case they wouldn’t pay luxury tax.
    Make sense?
    Done deal, how many players would come for minimum to be a globetrotter?

  46. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Vblade,

    Thing is, to sign Veterans with the vet exception there allowed to go over salary cap, I believe there is a limit, but you pay luxury tax for every dollar you spend after the cap.

    With those three in place, I believe veterans would even take discounts to try and get rings, who knows.

    At this rate I honestly believe it is not CLE. The only way for it to be on ESPN and have crazy ratings and a good show would be to make a splash with their choice.

    All signs point to MIA/NJ or heck idk don’t see chicago neither anymore.

  47. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    I’ve also felt that Wade, Bosh and James have known for a long time where they were going to end up, provided certain things fell into place, and have been just manipulating the media thoughout the entire process.

    These guys aren’t dumb. They LOVE the attention and in this social media world, know how to play the game.

    I don’t think LeBron is sitting in his Akron mansion today still wondering what he’s going to do.

    Its not going to be like what Ricky Williams did when he was trying to pick an agent coming out of Texas.

    He couldn’t decide between two guys so he flipped a coin!

    Imagine an important business decision in your life decided by a coin flip! lol

    Somehow, LeBron strikes me as way too intelligent to not have all of his bases covered in making this decision.

  48. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    # YankeeRay July 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    Yankee Trader July 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
    Wade gets a 6 year deal, Bosh a five year deal, correct? Unless Miami does a sign and trade with the Cavs James would have to also take a 5 year deal, and still have Miami under the cap? Could there be a scenario in Miami where he could be paid more annually than Wade for a three year deal?

    Signed confused how James can fit under the Miami cap at this point?

    ——–

    They just need to dump Beasleys salary and then he fits. They would have no cap space left with only 4 players on roster. But the 3 rookies dont count against the cap nor do any players they sign at minimum salary which is somewhere between 1 and 2 mill.
    So in that case they wouldn’t pay luxury tax.
    Make sense?
    Done deal, how many players would come for minimum to be a globetrotter?

    ——

    It would be curious how many vets flock to Miami to play alongside a Dream Team.

  49. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    SJ-

    If the Yankees could arrange a 3 team trade, with prospects coming back for Vazquez that could be combined with prospects from our minor league system than it might be worth it, even without an extension. I too feel that Lee will be priority #1 in the offseason for the Yankees, as he should be. He’s pitching like Greg Maddux in his prime, with more velocity.

    On Aceves, if this is his 3rd epidural injection, and he doesn’t get complete sustained relief, surgery is the next option.

  50. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    # Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Vblade,

    Thing is, to sign Veterans with the vet exception there allowed to go over salary cap, I believe there is a limit, but you pay luxury tax for every dollar you spend after the cap.

    With those three in place, I believe veterans would even take discounts to try and get rings, who knows.

    At this rate I honestly believe it is not CLE. The only way for it to be on ESPN and have crazy ratings and a good show would be to make a splash with their choice.

    All signs point to MIA/NJ or heck idk don’t see chicago neither anymore.

    ————————-

    Prokhorov is a real-life analogy of the “Most Interesting Man in the World”. I wouldn’t put it past him to have pitched a Godfather offer to LeBron consisting of Russian oil stock and part ownership of the team. That’s what I’m holding out on. lol

  51. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Thanks vblade.

  52. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    SJ44-

    That’s my point. Why would the Yanks trade Romine or Montero to get a guy they could get in the off-season anyway and who, while an extremely good pitcher, just doesn’t add that much once you subtract Vazquez, Hughes of Burnett (and it wouldn’t be Burnett anyway).

    Now, if the Yanks are comfortable in their minds trading Romine or Montero for Lee, which I very much doubt, I think they’d be better off getting Willingham instead.

    If I were the Yanks, I’d decide which of Montero or Romine was more likely to be their next catcher and trade the other guy. I wouldn’t do it for Lee, I would do it for the right RH outfielder.

  53. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    As Joe from LI pointed out Sherman’s blog post today is a good read.

    LeBron is coming to NY. :)

  54. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Willingham is arb eligible next year…

    And I still say there’s no way Lebron goes to Miami. Wade will always be #1 on that team..

    I still think Cleveland is the most likely landing spot with NJ, NY and Chicago all having outside shots at getting him

  55. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Romine + Brackman for Willingham?

    I’d rather have DeJesus if that’s the cost for Willingham.

    DeJesus must be cheaper than that.

  56. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Wave,

    Only thought I would have on why they would do that is….

    They do the deal at the end of July, right at the deadline….

    By then, Hughes has about 140 innings in toward his limits.

    They decide to put him in the bullpen to get his 25-35 remaining innings in to cover his limits for the regular season.

    This way, they have CC, Lee, AJ, Andy and Javy in the rotation, with Hughes to bolster the pen and his innings limits covered.

    Only thought I would have as to why they would acquire Lee in season.

  57. SSDD July 7th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    eye-opening stat of the day: Brandon Laird already has 81 RBI for Trenton.

    http://www.baseball-reference......ird-001bra

  58. pat July 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    If Lebron is doing an hour infomercial to “break-up” with Cleveland, that’s cold.

  59. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    SJ44-

    That scenario makes sense, it’s just not one I would give up Romine or Montero to produce.

  60. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Him staying in CLE makes no sense anymore, they couldn’t trade for Bosh or his brother Paul.

    The show on ESPN is simply that, a show meant to show his new home.

    All signs point to NJ/NY or MIA.

    I don’t see chicago or cle at all, and thats the sense i got from several analysts. Heck even Rob Parker himself is pulling hard for him.

  61. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Man, ESPN has completely sold their souls on this stuff. Exclusive interview with Wade and Bosh coming up.

  62. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    # SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Man, ESPN has completely sold their souls on this stuff. Exclusive interview with Wade and Bosh coming up.

    —————-

    Ratings, ratings, ratings. lol.

  63. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Lebron will go to the Bulls because that’s the most high profile, controversial move he can make. If he joins the Bulls he will generate enormous hype and publicity for Nike, the NBA, the Bulls and Lebron James himself. He will be measured against Jordan daily in Chicago with cameras following him, reporters asking questions and radio/TV talk shows debating back and forth. This hype is sustainable for a full decade if not longer, as long as Lebron is in Chicago. That kind of attention generated is good for the bottom line for Nike, the NBA, the Bulls and Lebron. If he’s not already a household name, he will be after he fights for his special place in history with the greatest basketball player who ever lived. This daily hype is just the PR tool that will keep the NBA relevant and thriving and serves as a bridge to the Jordan era. Not only can Lebron become a media mogul and billionaire in Chicago, he can win with Rose.

    Vegas says 55% chance Lebron goes to Chicago.

    Would you bet against Vegas?

  64. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    The Tampa rooies have a 3-0 lead after inning. Sanchez is 1-1 with a run scored and a stolen base. Culver with a sac fly.

    No score for Charleston game. Josh Romanski is pitching….4 strike outs in 3 innings.

    Deangelo Mack is 1-1 with a double and picking up the pace. average is up to .250 with 15 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers and 34 RBI.

  65. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    SJ44,

    would you agree with me, that “The decision” show makes no sense if he returns to CLE. I believe they made it because he is switching teams, just don’t see the point of marketing a show if he is returning.

    LOL, yeah ESPN sure did sell themselves.. Crazy stuff

  66. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

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  67. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

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  68. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

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    Watch the interview, you get a sense something BIG is going to happen. There talking about paycuts etc. Interesting stuff on ESPN.

  74. G-C July 7th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

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    He would be spending the prime of his career playing second fiddle to a homegrown hero. Does anyone actually think there’s a chance that LeBron is going to relinquish all the individual glory he could earn somewhere else?

    I don’t.

  75. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    LeBron isn’t going to generate constant comparisons and debates to Jordan.

    Everyone already knows how much better MJ was.
    *********

    “Everyone” :lol:

    The comparisons have already been made and will continue to be made. This is just what Nike and the NBA wants.

    The media needs a story.

    A new generation of fans never saw MJ play and they’re the ones buying the sneakers.

    So I really don’t think they count as part of “everyone”.

  76. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    # Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Vblade, if that happens I would love it.

    Really that is just a dream xD

    ————–

    Hey, it’s less outlandish than some of the trade proposals on here regarding Lee and Soria. Haha.

  77. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Ha, he compared themselves to the “Big three” of Boston, interesting stuff.

  78. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Its hard to say Kelvin.

    Basketball-wise, it makes no sense for LeBron to stay in Cleveland.

    I also can’t see him playing in Jersey for 2-3 years.

    NY? I’ve heard for awhile its not going to happen.

    That leaves Miami and Cleveland.

    Wade saying he’s “willing to take less money” is telling to me.

    It means somebody is gettin’ more money and I don’t think that’s Luke Ridenour! lol

    It would be surprising to me if LeBron does a 1 hour special to announce he’s coming back to Cleveland unless the Cleveland Convention and Visitors Bureau is sponsoring it! lol

    At this point though, who knows.

    I don’t think its Chicago though. If it was, he wouldn’t have worked so hard to try and get Bosh to Cleveland.

    I know this much…

    If its Miami, then Stephen A. Smith’s cred is back since he called this about 10 days ago.

    If it isn’t, his street cred is gone! lol

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    SJ, in what scenario do you see LeBron in a Nets uni?

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    Patrick,

    Do you have a link?

    Saw the info earlier this morning but can’t find it now. Plus I’m at work so I can’t go on betting websites, all blocked.

    Vegas odds don’t really matter anyways

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    Haha SJ,

    The interviews are telling indeed, CLE makes no sense for the big 1 hour special. All this we’ll take less talk is interesting.

    For me it is either MIA, or cleveland very short term. But MIA makes most sense for a basketball decision.

  83. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    SJ, in what scenario do you see LeBron in a Nets uni?

    If the Nets trade for Paul and sign Boozer before tomorrow. That’s about the only scenario in which it happens

  84. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Patrick,

    I wouldn’t fall for the last minute booby trap anyhow. Emotions are high right now and speculation more likely to be off base.

    The sneaker companies run the NBA.

    They want hype.

    Lebron following Jordan in Chicago is epic hype.

    Follow the sponsors and the money.

    That’s what I say.

  85. G-C July 7th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    “I also can’t see him playing in Jersey for 2-3 years.”

    Forgive me for being a little sensitive when people say things to this degree, haha.

    I could understand someone not wanting to come play in the Meadowlands because it was that much of a dump.

    But the supposed “upgrade” that Brooklyn presents over the Prudential Center in Newark doesn’t exist. When was the last time you heard about a group of friends going to hang out in Brooklyn? Its a residential (in parts, a downtrodden residential) community that may actually be less of a city than Newark itself.

    And its not like the media presence would be any different in Brooklyn than it would be 10 miles across the Hudson. If anything Newark is CLOSER and more central to the media mecca that Manhattan is than Brooklyn is.

  86. vblade July 7th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    # Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    SJ, in what scenario do you see LeBron in a Nets uni?

    If the Nets trade for Paul and sign Boozer before tomorrow. That’s about the only scenario in which it happens

    I have faith in Thorn and Prokhorov. If LeBron did put those 2 as conditions, those two might still be able to pull off such a coup.

    The Boozer part won’t be too hard, and I think that NO would bite on Favors, maybe Courtney Lee/Terrence Williams and 2-3 1st rounders.

  87. Phil Columbus July 7th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    If LeBron goes to the Heat, Pat Riley will have to coach the team. It will take a strong coach to keep LeBron, Bosh and Wade under control. LeBron was very vocal about how he was the leader of the Cavs and it was his team. His ego won’t let him act any other way.

    As a Cavs fan, I can see LeBron going to the Knicks. Once the Cavs failed in doing a sign and trade for Bosh, I think they lost thier chance at LeBron. Go to NYC and have a rivalry with the Heat and Majic.

  88. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Look,

    “@ESPNVerrier Pure speculation here, but couldn’t help but feel both Wade and Bosh know exactly what LeBron is doing.”

    Very telling ;)

  89. LGY July 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    G-C,

    When was the last time you have been to Brooklyn dude?

  90. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Phil Columbus,

    Chicago also rivals Miami.

    Does anyone seriously think the sneaker companies want 3 big stars in the same market?

  91. Patrick July 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    vblade,

    Boozer would be easy to convince, but I doubt NO trades CP3.

    Bret,

    The only reason Lebron would have considered Chicago is if Bosh was signing there too. Well Bosh is now with Miami so there is no reason for Lebron to go to the Bulls. There’s a chance but I doubt it.

  92. m July 7th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    The one-hour special is to announce that Lebrin is going to form a new team. :)

    I said last night that the idea was gauche. But this is what LeBron is.

    Anyway, get 6 boys and girls to wear a hat from each prospective team. Then put LeBron in the Seacrest role for the big reveal.

  93. Hey Kelvin says July 7th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Dude I live in Brooklyn, it is an upgrade…

    Brooklyn is changing, Business booming, Condos everywhere. It’s not some ghetto sh!t… It really is a great site for an upcoming team. Construction areas everywhere, to dramatically change the business landscape.

  94. SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Problem is, Thorn is leaving and the ownership situation in NO isn’t resolved yet. Meaning, Paul isn’t going anywhere.

    Patrick’s scenario would be the only scenario in which I could see LeBron ever going to NJ.

    Bret,

    If Nike was running the NBA, he would be in NY and not Chicago.

    There have been rumors for years LeBron has a “NY Clause” in his Nike deal. Meaning, a huge bonus/bump in endorsement money if he comes to NY.

    Nobody has those kind of deals to play in Chicago.

    FWIW, even Jordan had a NY clause in his Nike deal. Obviously, he never exercised it.

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    Nobody outside of Miami will care about the Heat.

    That’s bad business for the NBA.

    When Jordan was a Bull, he had fans all over the country.

    The Heat are not marketable nationally. The city is too different from mainstream America. It’s like San Diego. It’s its own little world.

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  98. G-C July 7th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    “When was the last time you have been to Brooklyn dude?”

    Its been a while, haha. So feel free to correct me.

    I’m just not sure I can get a gauge on what the outsiders perception of Brooklyn is. I can’t shake the feeling that its utterly misguided. The Atlantic Yards (where the Barclays Center will be built) is pretty much a low key residential and commercial area that looks a hell of a lot bustling to me than where the Prudential Center is.

    I know Newark is no Brooklyn, but the area around the Prudential Center has undergone a bit of an urban resurgence and should be a very nice place to play for the next two seasons.

  99. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    SJ44 July 7th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
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    If Nike was running the NBA, he would be in NY and not Chicago.
    ****************

    The Jordan comparisons would create epic hype in Chicago.

    That’s the big elephant in the room.

    Jordan.

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    Surprisingly Sherman lays it out quite well.

    It really comes down to LeBron’s priorities.

    Miami is now the most attractive in purely a basketball sense.

    But is that LeBron’s only priority? Doesn’t seem to be.

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