Game 85: Yankees at Mariners
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jul 08, 2010 
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YANKEES (53-31)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Brett Gardner LF
Ramiro Pena 3B
LHP Andy Pettitte (10-2, 2.82)
Pettitte vs. Mariners
MARINERS (34-50)
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Chone Figgins 2B
Franklin Gutierrez CF
Russell Branyan DH
Jose Lopez 3B
Casey Kotchman 1B
Josh Bard C
Josh Wilson SS
Michael Saunders LF
LHP Jason Vargas (6-4, 3.22)
Vargas vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 10:10 p.m. ET / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Tom Hallion, 1B Ron Kulpa, 2B Lance Barksdale, 3B Ed Rapuano
WEATHER: The roof is open and the sun is shining.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY: Utility man Kevin Russo turned 26 today.
ROAD WARRIORS: The Yankees have won four straight on the road. That matches their season high. They have also won 10 of their past 13 games on the road.
GONE STREAKING: Mark Teixeira has reached base — hit, walk or HBP — in 28 straight games. That matches Derek Jeter for the longest such streak by a Yankee this season. Teixeira’s longest streak is 35 straight in 2008.
UPDATE, 10:10 p.m.: The Yankees actually released an official statement from CC Sabathia regarding the LeBron James signing: “I’m happy for him. He made a decision and it had a lot to do with trying to win a championship. You can’t fault him for that. I do feel bad for the city of Cleveland, though. He meant a lot to that city and the people there.”
UPDATE, 10:25 p.m.: Not too many outfielders throw out Ichiro on the bases. That’s a big throw from Brett Gardner to get Ichiro at third.
UPDATE, 10:43 p.m.: After Gardner picked him up with that outfield assist, Andy Pettitte has gotten five straight outs to get through the second inning scoreless.
UPDATE, 10:50 p.m.: The fans in Seattle seem to regard Alex Rodriguez the same way the fans in Cleveland are sure to regard LeBron James.
UPDATE, 11:09 p.m.: The Yankees put seven runners on base in the first four innings. None of them scored. Still scoreless as Pettitte goes to the mound in the fourth.
UPDATE, 11:25 p.m.: Nick Swisher’s playing like he’s still trying to earn that all-star spot. He has three hits and now a sliding catch in right field. He’s probably gonna get his name in the newspaper tomorrow.
UPDATE, 11:36 p.m.: While the Yankees have stranded yet another base runner, the owner of the Cavaliers has posted an unreal letter in which he rips LeBron and promises a championship in Cleveland.
UPDATE, 11:50 p.m.: Andy Pettitte was steaming mad when he walked off the mound, having struck out back-to-back batters to strand the bases loaded. I’m sure he was a little pumped for getting out of the jam, but he was still kicking himself for his throwing error that brought in a run. Mariners lead 1-0.
UPDATE, 11:56 p.m.: After Marcus Thames pinch hit for Ramiro Pena, the Yankees are now going with Kevin Russo at third base. Still a 1-0 game in the bottom of the seventh.
UPDATE, 12:10 a.m.: For Rodriguez’s at-bat in the eighth, dollar bills — real dollars — fell from the upper deck of the stadium like ticker tape.
UPDATE, 12:24 a.m.: GIDP with runners at the corners finally drives in a run, but the Yankees had a chance to take a lead there in the eighth. Tied at 1. Yankees should absolutely be winning this thing.
UPDATE, 12:32 a.m.: Maybe it hasn’t been his best outing of the year, but Andy Pettitte has made some HUGE pitches tonight. There have been some walks and he threw that bunted ball away, but when he’s needed an out, he’s gotten it. Pretty impressive really.
UPDATE: 12:45 a.m.: Swisher’s huge day continues, and Rodriguez finally drives in the go-ahead runs with a two-out single. He was credited with both RBIs. Took second on the throw and third on an E-9. Yankees lead, 3-1.
Enjoy the game folks.
Catch you all on the sunnyside.
Damn you LeBron James…
Happy Birthday, Kevin Russo.
Didn’t the YES Network sign Tino Martinez to do a few games?
Please ban SJ44.
Well that spike in MSG stock yesterday will be taking a significant drop @ tomorrow’s bell……SJ, call me after you settle in tomorrow
Billy D July 8th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
“why can’t the knicks keep Lee?”
He plays the same position as Stoudemire…………..and he’s been traded.
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Didn’t they trade him for someone who plays the same position. Randolph?
I see the imposters are in full force tonight.
This is my only post in the game thread tonight.
Enjoy impostering kiddies!
sj44 LOL
Yankee fans criticizing LeBron for slapping Cleveland in the mouth, and shaking the dust off his Nikes and sprinting to the beach.
If that’s not the height of hypocrisy, I don’t know what is.
# SJ44 July 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I see the imposters are in full force tonight.
This is my only post in the game thread tonight.
Enjoy impostering kiddies!
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Don’t blame you, it’s ridiculous any more !
SJ,
Finally man I was hoping for to hear this decision, perhaps I’ll see ya at a heat game sometime.
This should permanently end the Jordan comparisons with the paper King.
MJ would have never copped out to try and win an easy championship. LeBron knows he’s no good as an alpha dog on a title team.
A sweep of the Mariners surely would be nice.
“Didn’t they trade him for someone who plays the same position. Randolph?”
Don’t know enough about him to say, Igotid. Guess it comes down to what it would have cost to keep Lee. Hard to argue $160M to two non-defensive playing power forwards. Knicks must have thought it better to add some depth.
KNICK fans are such posers . .crying like a they were entiled to get Lebron. . The same Knick fans chanting MVP when Lebron was Cavelier.
The Knicks are NOT the Yankees. . there isn’t a major draw to play for the Knicks..
And is Lebron really dumb. . He’s getting a Max contract playing in beautifull Miami. Who cares about the legacy BS.. Obviously he doesn’t
HMMMM Statue of Liberty or the Women of South Beach. Get with it .
NBA is a joke league I mean people talk about baseball not having competitive balance. HA look at the great work the salary cap in basketball is doing. What are the odds for a Laker vs. Heat final, 99%?
“If that’s not the height of hypocrisy, I don’t know what is.”
You’re right. It’s the height of hypocrisy.
Mike Ri July 8th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
He’s getting a Max contract playing in beautifull Miami. Who cares about the legacy BS..
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No he’s not getting a max contract. He colluded with two other FA to try and shortcut their way to a title.
I guess you’re right, he doesn’t care about legacy, and that’s a shame.
If we can get one of four against the Mariners ( considering the matchups ), that would be great.
I’m not mad about Lebron going to the heat, I’m mad about the colluding!
what a stupid error
vblade: do u really think they colluded?? why??
@ H.K.
Why does everyone seem to be panicking about the Mariners series?
VBLADE.. why is it a shame . .Do you play the game for a legacy or for Championsips … The kid wants to win !.. If your Lebron Do you trust the Knick front office to build a championship team . .HELL NO . . i know i wouldn’t ..
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5364549
O’Connor hit the nail on the head
# luis July 8th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
vblade: do u really think they colluded?? why??
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They’ve been planning this for years. They even signed the exact same contracts to ensure this would be a possibility.
LeBron had a very convenient cop-out in case he couldn’t hack it as the alpha dog in Cleveland. Same for Bosh.
I have more respect for Wade, at least he didn’t have to assemble three All-Stars to win his ring.
@H.K because the rays r too damn close and we r facing the king and lee
damn dp
“vblade: do u really think they colluded?? why??”
Sure they did. Thing is, there was nothing wrong with it. They were FREE agents. They want to discuss playing together and are willing to make the financial sacrifices, small as they may be, to do so, more power to ‘em.
No taxes in Florida
# Mike Ri July 8th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
VBLADE.. why is it a shame . .Do you play the game for a legacy or for Championsips … The kid wants to win !.. If your Lebron Do you trust the Knick front office to build a championship team . .HELL NO . . i know i wouldn’t ..
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It’s a cop-out. You could put 9 scrubs on that team and it’d still contend for a title.
How’d the league feel if Pujols, Mauer, Ubaldo and Cliff Lee made it so that their contracts expired at the same time, then signed with the same team for below market value?
Selig would never allow it. It kills the parity that the salary cap was meant for in the first place.
good at bats,but no runs
vblade = sore loser
Konerko: .298 BA, 84 H, 14 2B, 0 3B, 20 HR, 60 RBI, 47 R, 0 SB
Swisher: .300 BA, 90 H, 18 2B, 3 3B, 14 HR, 48 RBI, 52 R, 1 SB
I’d say both these guys deserved to be All- Stars, but Konerko has NOT had that much of a better season than Swisher has.
Vblade. . I assume your a Yankee fan correct . . Selig lets everything go .. The Yankees did the same thing . . CC. AJ and Tex .. Selig did nothing even though he knew damn well it would hurt baseball.
Its not a cop=out. . he owes NOTHING to New York . nothing . . its a pipe dream that poser fans of New York are living in ..
# LeBron July 8th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
vblade = sore loser
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Enjoy your collusion titles on Dwyane Wade’s court, buddy. Bye bye legacy!
Yes, I see. The Rays are 1.5 games behind us.
Mike Ri July 8th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Vblade. . I assume your a Yankee fan correct . . Selig lets everything go .. The Yankees did the same thing . . CC. AJ and Tex .. Selig did nothing even though he knew damn well it would hurt baseball.
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None of those guys signed below market contracts.
Vlblade . let it go . . Lebron is a grown man . .and im sure he’s capable of making his own decisions .
Selig lets everything go .. The Yankees did the same thing . . CC. AJ and Tex .. Selig did nothing even though he knew damn well it would hurt baseball.
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Bowie Kuhn never let everything go…although I couldn’t stand him.
Selig lets everything go .. The Yankees did the same thing . . CC. AJ and Tex .. Selig did nothing even though he knew damn well it would hurt baseball.
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Bowie Kuhn never let everything go…although I couldn’t stand him.
Nice throw from Gardener.
“None of those guys signed below market contracts.”
So your issue is he didn’t take the most money he could get?
Nice hustle and throw from Brett
# Mike Ri July 8th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Vlblade . let it go . . Lebron is a grown man . .and im sure he’s capable of making his own decisions .
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Oh I’m sure. Just disappointing to see the best basketball player in this era have to run to a stacked team because he couldn’t win a ring as the alpha dog.
nice play Gardy.. Damn glad that the Knicks still have Amar’e and now Randolph up front!
# Billy D July 8th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
“None of those guys signed below market contracts.”
So your issue is he didn’t take the most money he could get?
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No, my issue is circumventing the salary cap through collusion.
Owners have been colluding since the dawn of sports.
I have no problem whatsoever w/the players turning the tables.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.2090172
“We are disappointed that LeBron James did not pick the New York Knicks, but we respect his decision. Today, we signed five-time NBA All-Star Amar’e Stoudemire, and we will continue to move forward, getting back on track to develop into a championship contending team.”
LeBron will go down with Clemens and Arod who piggybacked a great team and players to get their ring. Hard to blame him but if you’re going to be the best ever it needs to be your team. He’ll never be Jordan, Kobe, or Magic, never.
“No, my issue is circumventing the salary cap through collusion”
No they aren’t. They’ll field a team without violating/exceeding the cap.
Let’s face it. You’re real problem is he didn’t choose the Knicks.
# pistol pete July 8th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
LeBron will go down with Clemens and Arod who piggybacked a great team and players to get their ring. Hard to blame him but if you’re going to be the best ever it needs to be your team. He’ll never be Jordan, Kobe, or Magic, never.
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Like I said, he just kissed his legacy goodbye. From now on, he will be out of the conversation as the best players of all time.
Just another hired gun. It’s a shame, really.
Anyone know if these 3 guys the Knicks got from GS are any good. It looks like andolph is the key, a rookie last year that was injured a lot with a big upside.
Cavaliers issued a 2 paragraph statement and never mentioned Lebron by name. That’s called turning the page.
# Billy D July 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
“No, my issue is circumventing the salary cap through collusion”
No they aren’t. They’ll field a team without violating/exceeding the cap.
Let’s face it. You’re real problem is he didn’t choose the Knicks.
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He could have chosen CSKA Moscow and it would be better, cause he’d still be leading that team as an alpha dog.
The best player in the league decided he couldn’t win a title as the leader, and a cop-out was in order. Maybe he realized it after he disappeared on the Cavaliers during the Celtics series.
Wade and Riley are going to get the recognition, and he’s just along for the ride.
# pistol pete July 8th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Anyone know if these 3 guys the Knicks got from GS are any good. It looks like andolph is the key, a rookie last year that was injured a lot with a big upside.
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Randolph is pretty good. Azzy is a nice shooter and penetrator.
Of all the pieces, Randolph has the best chance of becoming a star. It’s a good haul.
“Anyone know if these 3 guys the Knicks got from GS are any good. It looks like andolph is the key, a rookie last year that was injured a lot with a big upside.”
Randolph is the key guy. Turiaf and Azubeuke are dime a dozen NBA bench guys.
come on gardy!!, after that assist a double would be nice
I can see why John Wooden enjoyed the women’s game more than the men’s.
“…….Arod who piggybacked a great team and players to get their ring. ”
Piggybacked? I seem to recall it was Alex who was doing alot of the carrying to help others a ring last year.
pat July 8th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
“…….Arod who piggybacked a great team and players to get their ring. ”
Piggybacked? I seem to recall it was Alex who was doing alot of the carrying to help others a ring last year.
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Can’t compare a great basketball player to a great baseball player.
# pat July 8th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
“…….Arod who piggybacked a great team and players to get their ring. ”
Piggybacked? I seem to recall it was Alex who was doing alot of the carrying to help others a ring last year.
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With the best 3 starters and best closer of all time. He was fantastic, but let’s just say he wouldn’t have done that in Texas.
It’s actually more of a big deal in basketball because one player has greater impact on the game than in baseball.
vblade = groupie/stalker/”fatal attraction”
soft tossing lefty on the mound to frustrate the Yanks and Matt…
Miggs What in the world is that comment suppose to mean
# LeBron July 8th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
vblade = groupie/stalker/”fatal attraction”
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How cute, loser behind computer screen posing as the Cop-Out King.
“Miggs What in the world is that comment suppose to mean”
Pretty sue that’s an impostor Miggs.
*sure
I love Arod but he’ll never be the face of the Yankees the same way LeBron will always be viewed as a hired hand that’s all I meant. Agree the Yanks don’t win or even come close without arod last year but it’s not his team and it took him a long time to relax and play well in NY under pressure.
It’s an impostor that wont be with us for long.
What do you guys think the score of tonight’s game will be?
Damn, Cleveland fans are violent.
Burning jerseys, breaking cars, destroying billboards. Insane.
Congrats to LeBron and Heat fans, looking forward to the upcoming season.
# Tar July 8th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
It’s an impostor that wont be with us for long.
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Apparently LeBron is also posting on here! lmao.
Yeah, I can’t see how a single Yankee fan can be upset that Lebron went to Miami. It’s about winning. He’s taking less money to win.
The only rub about this was the whole press conference that was televised. Definitely in poor taste to dump your team on that type of stage.
Still, all athletes want to win. You can respect Lebron for wanting to be part of a special team. People that want to villainize him are just bitter or have never liked him in the first place.
Alex July 8th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
What do you guys think the score of tonight’s game will be?
u never know with a pitcher they have never face
Wanderer July 8th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Yeah, I can’t see how a single Yankee fan can be upset that Lebron went to Miami. It’s about winning. He’s taking less money to win.
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Just a shame that he could have put himself on the pantheon of MJ, Magic, Bird, etc….he had all the talent.
All gone after this cop-out move. Durant will be the undisputed #1 alpha dog in the NBA next year.
“Just a shame that he could have put himself on the pantheon of MJ, Magic, Bird, etc….he had all the talent.”
So you’re saying he should have stayed with Cleveland? And did he lose some talent this evening?
Kelvin,
We have friends from Cleveland. They traded away 2 fabulous pitchers in CC and Lee. The Browns have been dreadful for years. Now they lose LBJ which I could care less about. People who live there are disgusted. I don’t blame them. I don’t condone violence, bu5 our friends gave up their season tix to the Indians.
Andy looking good.
It is not the real Miggs. They really need registration on this site.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn!
Man, am I sleepy.
What’s happened to the Lohud, reminds me of what became of Times Square in the 70′s
Vblade, Are you suggesting athletes should be more ego driven? Who cares if you’re not the one carrying the team? It’s a team for a reason. I think it would be far worse if he signed with The Nets and said “I will single handedly make this franchise win.”
The guy is showing he’s willing to be part of a great team, and you know why? Great teams win in basketball, and every other TEAM sport.
re: Pettitte retirement on talk, really hope he sticks around for 1 more year. keeping Pettitte and adding Lee would be sick
Just a shame that he could have put himself on the pantheon of MJ, Magic, Bird, etc….he had all the talent.”
So you’re saying he should have stayed with Cleveland? And did he lose some talent this evening
i think what vblade means is that instead of being a legend on his own right, he is going to be perceived as a hire gun much like arod is and probably will be
blake
High and tight to Ichiro. I like that
# Billy D July 8th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
“Just a shame that he could have put himself on the pantheon of MJ, Magic, Bird, etc….he had all the talent.”
So you’re saying he should have stayed with Cleveland? And did he lose some talent this evening?
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Nope, but the chance to be remembered as one of the Top 5 players of all time has been lost.
What does the Top 5 players of all time have in common? Guys like Jordan. Magic. Bird. Kobe.
All played their entire careers with one team, and became the face of the franchise.
Miami is Wade’s team, always will. He’s just tagging along so he won’t have to be the alpha dog, because as we have seen in the past offseasons, he couldn’t hack it.
So he copped out.
Nice play by Pena there to cut that off….Yankees continuing their great defensive play on this trip.
Tar,
He looks really sharp tonight…how humid has it been down in the Triangle?
Hey Pat M, all is not lost on LoHud.
Heading up to Seattle?
# Wanderer July 8th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Vblade, Are you suggesting athletes should be more ego driven? Who cares if you’re not the one carrying the team? It’s a team for a reason. I think it would be far worse if he signed with The Nets and said “I will single handedly make this franchise win.”
The guy is showing he’s willing to be part of a great team, and you know why? Great teams win in basketball, and every other TEAM sport.
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What’s wrong with wanting to be a face of a franchise? To try and lead a team as the alpha dog, the undisputed leader? That’s how the very best players are remembered.
Wouldn’t be surprised if LeBron is remembered as a Scottie Pippen sidekick type. And given his immense talent, it’s a shame.
SAS,
Tell me about it, I know few writers from CLE. They are in disbelief, people that covered LBJ say “how can you do that”, “You’ve changed”.
But above all, this decision was to win and win now. Their all sacrificing some sort of salary to my understanding. Really want to carve out their legacy and form a dynasty which is the key word Pat Riley is using now.
Pat M
E-mail Chad. Tell him your thoughts. I did.
Cleveland has just scheduled a public burning of anything LeBron at the corner of Ontario and Huron Streets Friday at noon.
The fallout begins.
That’s pretty pathetic, Vblade
back to back hits against a lefty.
2 for 2 from curtis to a lefty, not bad
What’s happened to the Lohud, reminds me of what became of Times Square in the 70’s
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I know what you’re saying in regards to this place but NYC did get a bit over-gentrified in the boom.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 8th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
That’s pretty pathetic, Vblade
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Well, he did just schedule an hour long show on national TV just to stab Cleveland fans in the heart. Can’t blame em.
He was also asked whether he bothered to tell the Cavs of his impending “Decision”. Of course, the answer was no.
This has the feel of last night’s game. Guys all over the bases early in the game…hopefully they will break through for a big inning like they did last night.
“how humid has it been down in the Triangle?”
More just plain old hot. Which is kind of surprising. Don’t get me wrong It’s humid (as you well know) but thankfully it’s not insanely humid on top of the heat.
Screw Cleveland, they are a bunch of whiners with a giant victim complex. Would have liked to see LBJ go somewhere he could be the man and lead a team to the title by BEATING the best instead of just joining up with them. Obviously would have loved to see him with the Knicks but who can fault him for passing on the Knicks – clown college that they are. (Dolan can blow money on Isiah Thomas’ bad roster moves and Eddy Curry’s contract but wouldn’t allow Walsh to fire Isiah’s scouts who ended up passing on Brandon Jennings)
“Just a shame that he could have put himself on the pantheon of MJ, Magic, Bird, etc….he had all the talent.”
Jordan is in a class by himself, but Bird was winning titles playing with 3-4 hall of famers and Johnson was playing with one of the 5 best players of all time and hall of famer, James Worthy. Nobody wins without significant talent around them.
The worst thing about this LeBron decision is that I rented out 25 rooms at the Milford Plaza.
is Kevin Russo still on this yankees team, why is Pena getting all the love.
Tar,
thats good, thats what makes it unbearable.
If Andy keeps throwing like he has been, the Yanks are going to bust through on this guy at some point.
Anyway, at least this “Decision” crap is over and people can focus on the Yankees once more.
by the way, let’s hear it for all those around here who wanted the Yankees to sign Chone Figgins last year.
Vblade, I’ll bet they would have done the same thing had Lebron done things in a quieter fashion………..I guess we’ll never know if they are ticked off that he left or if it’s the manner he left that bothers them.
hey vblade, what’s the V stands for ?
“…..And in the center of it all….is the Miiilfoooorrrd Plaaaaaazzzzzaaa”
Still going strong by the way.
Nick in SF…..Yes, I’m heading up Saturday……I’ll see SJ tomorrow ( told him about Tommy’s Pastrami ) and then head up to The Emerald City which is a great town with a great ballpark……Wanted to fly up to Oakland to see the Yanks , however I had a 5 hour deposition Tuesday that was hell…….
Jeter and Cano have really become a great DP combo.
the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 8th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
is Kevin Russo still on this yankees team, why is Pena getting all the love
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he still on the team in fact is his birthday
Betsy,
I agree on the “pathetic” sentiment.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 8th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Vblade, I’ll bet they would have done the same thing had Lebron done things in a quieter fashion………..I guess we’ll never know if they are ticked off that he left or if it’s the manner he left that bothers them.
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Probably both.
I’d be ticked off too if I was a Cleveland native and was strung along by the Cop-Out King for a month, and my franchise was handicapped because they had to keep the cap space open for his return.
“The Decision: Lebron James has decided to go back to college and join the TarHeels”
yes!
@joba Farnsworth
i wanted placido polanco, but Cash told me that I have already spent too much on recreational hostesses. would da been a good sign though.
It takes a special kind of person too stay with their team but lebron was swayed by the bright lights,big city,girls,riley,etc… of south beach .
It’s not the fact that he didn’t go too ny it is that ohio is a mess & he left them high n dry when he could of stayed there & made as much money or more & gave a troubled state hope.
Would it kill a muti millionaire 20 times over too stay in cleveland where it was his team?
Now he goes too a team that wade,riley own & even if he wins 3 championships wade will have more so lebron can never be a jordan,bird,kobey,etc…
did Matt post already?
TarHeelYank
You didn’t get the memo, I shortened the handle to Tar. If you are going to impersonate, at least pay attention. Probably a stupid dookie.
the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 8th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
is Kevin Russo still on this yankees team, why is Pena getting all the love
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he still on the team in fact is his birthday
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that’s sad that Joe G won’t give the kid a start on his Bday!
Interesting article on Phil’s change:
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....lenews_wsj
“When everything’s on, I can just use my fastball, curveball and cutter and be effective,” he said. “But when, say, my curveball is off or my fastball command is off that day, it helps to have another pitch to lean on so you can get through those games where you don’t have much. And I think that’s where the changeup really comes into play for me.”
The other time it comes into play is in the mid-to-late innings. The more a pitcher faces a lineup during the course of a game, the more challenging it becomes to keep hitters guessing. And Mr. Hughes has been less effective the second and third time through opposing lineups.
He has a 2.40 ERA in the first three innings of games and a 5.14 ERA after the third inning.
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He keeps saying this about the change; I hope one day Phil actually uses it…………Those #s after the 3rd inning are dreadful; he has to improve on that as well. I can’t imagine that’s all due to the lack of a change………..poor pitching pattern?
Pat M, sounds great. I love Seattle, hope to take a trip up myself some time soon.
Will you be enjoying local treats Ivars and Dicks Drive-In?
http://www.ddir.com/About_Us.html
Swish is killing the ball…he’s earning that all-star nod.
BTW, Swish is really raking right now.
Vblade, Lebron has every right to go FA – he’s earned that right. If they are annoyed about the way he broke up with them on tv, that’s one thing…
Swisher, you already won!
Suck on that, Youk.
Cleveland fans are handling this with no class.
They can criticize Bron all they want, but what they are doing really is pathetic.
The man gave them 7 years of watching great teams basically single handedly, because your FO was so inept at getting him a real supporting case.
LeBron owes nothing to Cleveland.
You booed this man off the court in his final game ever at your arena and you expect “loyalty” in return?
Hypocrisy at its finest, but would expect nothing less from sports fan who think for some reason these ball players own them something.
Are there midges in south beach?
the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 8th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
the GM formerly known as Cashman now as Cashmoney! July 8th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
is Kevin Russo still on this yankees team, why is Pena getting all the love
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he still on the team in fact is his birthday
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that’s sad that Joe G won’t give the kid a start on his Bday!
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specially what the alternative is!!!!
Cmon Yanks – let’s warm up the bats here and get Andy a lead…
Really some venomous comments on any Cleveland news website you go to.
“No one who really cared about Ohio could ever do this! May you never win a ring and have a short career with chronic elbow problems you traitorous, lying follower. Don’t Kings lead? Not this “chosen one”. Please never come back to Ohio again!”
“I demand that the billboard of Lebron be ripped down TOMORROW. If not, it should be vandalized. Lebron has no heart, no soul, and should never feel welcome in Northeast Ohio again. I hope he breaks his knees next season.”
“This self centered egomaniac never gave Dan Gilbert that courtesy of a phone call to inform him of his decision to leave. Grow up LeBron. You will never be able to hang out in Cleveland-Akron again without a slew of body guards.”
OUCH.
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....lenews_wsj
Phil Hughes has been, sequentially, the best New York pitching prospect since Dwight Gooden, a bust, key to a world championship, nascent ace and a burnout, these last four all within the past calendar year—and he has yet to pitch 300 major-league innings.
All of which makes Mr. Hughes, 24, the more interesting of the two scheduled starters in Friday’s Yankees-Mariners tilt. Cliff Lee will probably pitch brilliantly. That’s what he does. Mr. Hughes is less predictable.
As fans try to guess which pitcher shows up—the one who began the year 8-1 or the one with a 7.03 ERA in his last four starts—it’s worth taking a broader perspective. Mr. Hughes hasn’t visited ruination on the majors the way Dr. K did at first, but there’s little sign he’s doing anything but emerging as a world-class starter.
To take one example, compare where he is to a similar point in Johan Santana’s career. In 2003, the Minnesota Twins were breaking in Mr. Santana, 24, as a starter after having enjoyed his dominant services in relief the previous year—a story Mr. Hughes may find familiar. It wasn’t until July of that year that he permanently cracked the rotation, after which he made 15 starts over the rest of year.
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.In those starts, he pitched 92.1 innings, during which he struck out 92, walked 24, and allowed 13 home runs. In his first 15 starts this year, Mr. Hughes has pitched 94 innings, striking out 86, walking 29, and allowing 11 home runs.
Mr. Hughes doesn’t have an otherworldly pitch like the change-up Mr. Santana flashed when younger. He likely won’t go on to win two Cy Young awards. Still, even considering recent woes, there’s nothing to suggest he can’t. And one doesn’t need to become quite as great as Johan Santana to become a great pitcher.
—Tim Marchman
LGY, I think it’s sad…………….just because Lebron left doesn’t mean he doesn’t love Cleveland. I agree- he doesn’t owe them anything. If he stayed, great; if not – well, it’s HIS career and his life.
I was supposed to go to Seattle this weekend. And a scheduling issue pushed it back to next weekend.
So instead of the World Champs I’ll be enjoying the baseball stylings offered by the fine gentlemen of the Puget Sound Senior Mens Baseball League.
Not quite MLB level play but the odds of grabbing a foul ball just skyrocket.
“I have taken this non-used handle as a commemoration to my fanaticism of the Heels and Yanks, lol!”
No offense taken. But bear in mind you have reputation to uphold. I dropped the full name because I didn’t want to embarrass good Heels like Blake. So mind your manners.
Swish taking this all-star thing very seriously.
Kevin Millar is pretty hilarious/interesting/refreshing on MLB Network.
C’mon yanks! Score!
Andy’s looking good folks. His pitch count through 5 is ridiculous.
Pettitte is mowing them down.
If Pat M and Bronx Jeers are in the same place at the same time, I will follow.
thats an allstar in my list 3 for 3 and a sliding cath!!. Still i dont understand the struggles of the yankees to score when they haven’t face a pitcher before. We need this game , come on guys!!!
This game is going by really quick.
LeBron is an absolute piece of garbage.
I can go over the reasons why this is a horrible career decision for him for about five paragraphs, but I’m so tired of this stuff that I don’t even have the energy to do that.
I will say, though, that holding a one hour special to essentially crap on your hometown is one of the most, if not the most classless act a professional athlete has ever carried out. He should be embarrassed.
I never wanted LeBron to come to the Nets because I personally enjoy rooting for a team that has a loyal, albeit small fanbase, and would be so turned off by the circus around it all that I wouldn’t even enjoy going to games anymore. But what he did to Cleveland is just about criminal.
Art Modell said he thinks about how he alienated Cleveland every single day of his life. And he regrets never being able to return home. I’m sure LeBron is too egotistical and unsympathetic to ever feel that way, but Cleveland fans should do their very best to make sure he never lives or returns to Cleveland again.
Nick in SF…..I try to make it a point to stop at Dicks…..Not as good as In-n-Out, but real good ……..
Cano has given up hitting homers since the Yankees harshed his buzz.
Andy Pettitte is not a HOF’er but it sure is fun watching him move up the career wins list.
I agree with G-C 100%. Lebron is scum, and deserves every bit of hatred he’s getting.
Also, please score Yankees. Andy is doing fantastic.
Real Mature on behalf of ownership, clearly not the way to go… Overreacting a bit.
Wow………
Wow. Granderson looks great against the lefty.
Damn.
Curtis is swinging it well tonight and I’m not ready to jump off his bandwagon but waiting for him is turning into a Beckettlike drama.
Wow, 2x. I’m sorry Dan Gilbert needs to calm down…………..If violence erupts in Cleveland because of this, he can take no small share of the blame. LOL A curse? I hate what Lebron did in terms of breaking up with his team in public, but holy cow – this guy makes me want root for Lebron.
That’s some statement by Dan Gilbert. Awesome.
this lineup is bad, yanks need a bat, can’t afford to dh somebody with this lineup
Hell hath no fury like an owner scorned?
http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/n.....00708.html
Wow. Can you imagine George writing something like that? Even at his most obnoxious? Lebron wants to play with Wade and Bosh, two of the best players in the game. Maybe the fanfare was a bit much, but honestly, if anyone was entitled to it…
That is SO FREAKING COOL.
Lebron will have an oceanfront mansion in Miami that will make him quickly forget about Cleveland. He’ll go back there for games and he’ll have an entourage of security and that will be that.
When it came down to it, Wade controlled this whole thing. He had already won his title and didn’t want to leave South Beach and the other two guys capitulated and went along with him.
How can you say no to the weather, the women, the lack of taxes? It’s a party town. It’s Vegas without legal gambling.
Lebron’s legacy is ruined now though. If one of those big 3 get hurt or that team doesn’t win a championship he will be ridiculed for years to come.
Going on TV like that tonight to do what he did and not go back to Cleveland is one of the most classless things I’ve seen in professional sports. He should have just announced it on Twitter with a couple of strippers tatooed with the word Miami.
That was a disgrace and makes me hate ESPN even more. ESPN is a lot of what is wrong with sports today.
As for the Knicks, it’s a complete failure of massive proportions. If the key to getting Lebron was taking the other two guys, they should have known that and made it happen.
Thank God Dolan doesn’t own the Yankees. He’s a disgrace as an owner. Once they have Fios in Greenwich, I will cancel cablevision since I hate even contributing a small amount of money to that family.
8 left on base so far. Not good.
And I realize George could be unbelievably nasty and petty (see Dave Winfield). But not in team statements.
# G-C July 8th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
That is SO FREAKING COOL.
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Honestly, I don’t even like Cleveland but that statement takes real cajones.
No outs and two on base. Not good.
Andy Pettitte clearly does not like bunts.
andy just blew the game because he an idiot
# TarHeelYank July 8th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
In no way did Dan Gilbert inspire violence. A GREAT letter from Dan Gilbert. Even if Lebron signed with the Nets or Knicks, the Cavaliers were deserted, and now there are far fewer options on the free agent market due to his betrayal. The decision was made long ago, and the Cavaliers should have been notified as soon as possible.
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The Cop-Out King even mentioned not bothering to call the guy who employed him for the past seven seasons to say that he was slinking out of town.
I say good for Dan Gilbert.
“Wow, 2x. I?m sorry Dan Gilbert needs to calm down????..If violence erupts in Cleveland because of this, he can take no small share of the blame. LOL A curse? I hate what Lebron did in terms of breaking up with his team in public, but holy cow ? this guy makes me want root for Lebron.”
1) If he did this to New Jersey, I’d be out in Secaucus burning old warehouses down there.
2) Cleveland sports teams are supposedly cursed
3) How could that possibly make you want to root for LeBron?
This would be a tough loss for Andy, and for the team with Lee and Felix next two days. Gotta hit a guy like Vargas.
GLove, huh? The Knicks should have forced Lebron, Wade and Bosh to sign? The Knicks will be fine.
Andy should just hold on to the ball on bunts from now on.
G-C, given that you think Lebron should be practically barred from Cleveland, we’re never, ever going to agree. That letter from Gilbert is an embarrassment.
AN ERROR!
G. Love
Going on TV like that tonight to do what he did and not go back to Cleveland is one of the most classless things I’ve seen in professional sports. He should have just announced it on Twitter with a couple of strippers tatooed with the word Miami.
That was a disgrace and makes me hate ESPN even more. ESPN is a lot of what is wrong with sports today.
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Agreed.
Vargas is having a great year………
# Nick in SF July 8th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
If Pat M and Bronx Jeers are in the same place at the same time, I will follow.
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Sounds like fun by unfortunately my flight leaves a week late this season.
Still hoping to enjoy the delights of La Taqueria before the clock strike 2011 though.
if u don’t score someone will, normally the oposing team, what a great performance from andy, i hope it doesn’t go to waste
Pena plays a very sharp third base. he is very slick over there. meanwhile, i guess all those years of PFP did not help Pettitte one bit
plus i think this walk is unnecessary but we’ll see
game is right here
Tar, we’ll just have to disagree…………
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 8th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
G-C, given that you think Lebron should be practically barred from Cleveland, we’re never, ever going to agree. That letter from Gilbert is an embarrassment.
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It’s not “we think”. It’s just what’s going to happen.
He just became the #1 public enemy in Cleveland, and rightfully so. A truly pathetic display of self-promotion by a man who constantly talks of Cleveland being “home” and of being “loyal”.
Dan Gilbert gets a ton of credit from me. What went on tonight was a disgrace.
Lebron better abandon Ohio because if he ever goes out to eat there again I would be very worried about people spitting or doing worse in my food.
He could have done a sign and trade or informed the Cavs early on he wasn’t coming back so they could go after other players who were still on the market.
Lebron’s only a hero to people in Miami tonight.
Is Andy now too old to field his position? lol. I guess the Mariners saw the Dodgers game, as far as bunting on Andy. It would be tough to lose this game considering they will probably be shut down the next 2 games.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 8th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
GLove, huh? The Knicks should have forced Lebron, Wade and Bosh to sign? The Knicks will be fine.
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lol the knicks are a clown college. they might be okay next offseason if they get another star, but they gave a max deal to the biggest injury risk FA out there – if he gets hurt they are done for another 5 years minimum.
teddy
Please tell me you didn’t call Andy an idiot. It was a typo, right?
# teddy July 8th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
andy just blew the game because he an idiot
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Your mommy is calling you to bed !
BTW for those who haven’t read Dan Gilbert’s in-your-face statement:
“Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;
As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.
This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his “decision” unlike anything ever “witnessed” in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.
Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.
The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.
There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.
You simply don’t deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.
You have given so much and deserve so much more.
In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:
“I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE”
You can take it to the bank.
If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our “motivation” to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works.
This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown “chosen one” sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And “who” we would want them to grow-up to become.
But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called “curse” on Cleveland, Ohio.
The self-declared former “King” will be taking the “curse” with him down south. And until he does “right” by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.
Just watch.
Sleep well, Cleveland.
Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day….
I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:
DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue…. “
Vblade, I hate what Lebron did tonight, but he did not owe it to Cleveland to stay there…………whatever, it’s not worth arguing about.
It’d be nice to win this game with Lee and Felix coming up.
This why I hate when Girardi intentionally walks guys. A 3-2 pitch…
G. Love July 8th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Dan Gilbert gets a ton of credit from me. What went on tonight was a disgrace.
Lebron better abandon Ohio because if he ever goes out to eat there again I would be very worried about people spitting or doing worse in my food.
He could have done a sign and trade or informed the Cavs early on he wasn’t coming back so they could go after other players who were still on the market.
Lebron’s only a hero to people in Miami tonight.
you r right
Joba, I’ve absolutely no problem with Amare………….I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I think they are going to be fine.
Hey, has anyone heard about Dan Gilbert’s open letter???
Not sure what it is about the Mariners that gives the Yankees fits. Just wow.
great K.
when Andy makes error, Yanks always win
Don’t blame Andy Pettitte if the Yankees lose this game. One bad fielding play didn’t do him in – the feeble Yankee offense did.
This Seattle pitcher is throwing garbage and AGAIN the Yankees can’t score.
Of course you will all attack me and say the offense is fine.
I say open your eyes. 6 innings and they can’t muster ONE single run. It’s inept. It’s ridiculous.
Terrible terrible approach with RISP.
Because the M’s pitching is very good?
Enrico Pallazzo with the strike 3 call.
Also, the Yankees have games like this – a lot.
matt
Your late. They scored 9 minutes ago.
Betsy,
If the key to getting Lebron was bringing Wade and Bosh along too, the Knicks should have known that and not been in a rush to sign Amare.
In Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and David Lee, the Knicks had 3 players they could have offered in sign and trades to Miami, Cleveland and Toronto to give them the cap space to bring the 3 players in.
The fact that the ridiculously inept Knicks front office with years to plan this couldn’t accomplish this makes it clear that this team is run by idiots.
You can’t sell winning a championship in NY to professional athletes? Every other major team in the area has no trouble doing that.
Matt’s “Yankees are behind” meter went off.
Thats letter was a total disgrace. To add to the ESPN reality show disgrace.
I’m so glad that’s all over. Who REALLY cares?
told u so. Now offense should response
Wow, 2 K’s to get out of it. Way to go Andy! PLEASE SCORE GUYS.
yea i called him an idiot, that run may hold up cause the he can’t throw the ball to first base or should hold it
Matt,
The Yankees have eight hits, and nearly as many lineouts. They’ve been putting the ball in play, and it hasn’t been falling. It’s frustrating, but Vargas deserves credit. He hasn’t walked a batter against this lineup.
Pettitte is clutch.
Great job by Andy to get out of the mess. Too bad no one on this team can get a hit with risp and the one run given up was on an error.
Betsy,
Seattle is terrible. Not every one of the Yankees opponents are the 27 Yankees.
Check this out from Cleveland Cavalier owner Dan Gilbert:
“Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;
As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.
This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his “decision” unlike anything ever “witnessed” in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.
Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.
The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.
There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.
You simply don’t deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.
You have given so much and deserve so much more.
In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:
“I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE”
You can take it to the bank.
If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our “motivation” to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works.
This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown “chosen one” sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And “who” we would want them to grow-up to become.
But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called “curse” on Cleveland, Ohio.
The self-declared former “King” will be taking the “curse” with him down south. And until he does “right” by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.
Just watch.
Sleep well, Cleveland.
Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day….
I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:
DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue…. “
Rconn, Seattle can’t hit, but Lee and Hernandez are great and Vargas is having a terrific year…..
Now, *that* was not a good approach by Thames.
Thames maybe take a pitch or something
Matt July 8th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
what they attack is that u only show up to whine, if u show up when the team is wining probably nobody would have anything to complain about. By the way i think u r right on this one
# Matt July 8th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Don’t blame Andy Pettitte if the Yankees lose this game. One bad fielding play didn’t do him in – the feeble Yankee offense did.
This Seattle pitcher is throwing garbage and AGAIN the Yankees can’t score.
Of course you will all attack me and say the offense is fine.
I say open your eyes. 6 innings and they can’t muster ONE single run. It’s inept. It’s ridiculous.
Terrible terrible approach with RISP.
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Perfection you are NOT getting ! You get too carried away ! Calm down, enjoy !
They’re in 1st place, best record in game, see what they do at deadline to improve.
It’s the Yanks, my friend !
GLove, that’s pure speculation…………
Real bad showing by the offense.
LOL Vargas is having a better year than Phil – so why is it that he’s throwing garbage?
teddy
In that case you are a very stupid person. Not to mention, you have no right to call yourself Yankee fan.
If Joba pitches the 8th, guaranteed he puts the game out of reach. always does in these types of games.
poor AB by Jeter
ECHO…….echo…..echo……
You guys here that echo in here?
I wonder what Dan Gilbert thinks about all this?
That said, this is probably how the Yankees are going to be – they are just an inconsisent offense.
soft tossing lefty giving the Yankees fits. who would have seen this one coming?
we’re 1 swing away from Peña from tying this game.
what is up with this? i thought that was an unearned run against pettitte? why does mlb gameday have an earned run?
oops forgot he was pinch hit for
Or maybe Vargas is pitching well. Again.
They just began the road trip with a sweep. And this game is hardly over.
Yankee hitters have been eaten up by that change all night. Just that kind of game.
Anyone still think we don’t need a bat. We do. We’ve never filled Johnson’s DH slot and we should.
UPDATE: Dan Gilbert has just guaranteed that both Dan Marino and Gilbert Arenas will win titles before LeBron does.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 8th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
That said, this is probably how the Yankees are going to be – they are just an inconsisent offense.
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What team is consistent ? Depends on the pitching, defense, offense, everything.
Boston lost TB while outhitting them 11-5.
Yanks must be consistent at something ! BEST RECORD !
Betsy-
Vargas’ stuff isn’t even comparable to Hughes or Joba for that matter. He’s having a good year. He’s a crafty lefty. But he hasn’t been impressive to me. He doesn’t have a great breaking ball and is barely getting by this game. The Yanks are hitting him they just haven’t been able to get the big hit yet much like early last night.
Really not liking the way this series may end up if they lose tonight.
Matt, you haven’t been paying any attention to the game itself. They’ve made good contact when they’ve had runners on. They just haven’t been falling. Vargas has been insanely lucky. And he owns Gardner. That’s the story of this game.
Nick-
Lol. Man Cleveland is outraged. That letter was hilarious haha. It is going to be nuts when he goes back there. He won’t be able to step foot in that state.
I don’t feel sorry for the Knicks. Soon they’ll have Amare, Parker and Carmelo Anthony.
For whatever reason Gardner has looked absolutely terrible tonight. He’s been handling lefties really well but he is not picking up the ball from Vargas at all for whatever reason.
I don’t feel sorry for the Nets either. They have a good young team and the chips to acquire Chris Paul.
bret-
any chance the knicks can pull off a trade for cp3 next year instead of parker? im all for eva longoria at knicks games but cp3 would be amazing in a knicks uniform running with stoudamire and melo.
Dan Gilbert’s letter is funny.
anyway LBJ is a choker
Please don’t read the following if you’ve just eaten:
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Imagine Michael Kay’s head in 3D.
I heard something about an open letter-
Can someone please post the entire, massive letter for the 10th time tonight?
I turned it off on YES but according to gameday that pitch almost caught the upper part of the zone. that pitch was almost a strike…
Tyler,
Yeah. If they’re willing to trade Gallinari, they have a shot a Chris Paul.
Yanks only
bret-
I’m not a bball expert but would you do that trade? if you get melo wouldn;t it make sense to have him run with a true pg and with amare?
if only the knicks took jennings instead of jordan hill then this problem would all be solved haha.
Big, Big hitter here. keep it at 1-0
Pettite has been fantastic once again. The Yanks need to get at least a run and take him off the hook…
Cleveland is quick to lament over their supposed lack of championships but how quickly they forget those salad days when legends like Jake Taylor, Rick “Wild Thing” Vaughan and Willie Mays Hays were taking MLB by storm.
For Betsy : Pettitte has been consistent, RIGHT ?
NBA sucks big time !
Lead-off walk. Let see if they can do something.
Vargas giving Alex no chance to tie it with one swing
Andy’s a hard luck loser tonight. He was great.
here we go.
Okay. Two on. Nobody out. Now here’s the big test. Posada and Granderson need to deliver.
Cano, singles hitter since the Yankees said “no fun for you!”
Is anyone out there alarmed by Derek Jeter 2010 esp. his OBP? I wouldn’t mind his BA if he had .370 or better OBP, but he’s just not getting on base enough, so much he has been demoted (yes, demoted) to the #2 slot and you know what? I’d rather see Swisher in the #2 slot than Jeter who should be batting seventh for his BA and OBP.
Honestly, he looks so mediocre out there, I really think the Yanks should offer him two years at $20 million a year then say goodbye to him. He got his years and money 2001-11. Would he really collect his 3000th hit elsewhere?
He will be an old, awful SS or OF in 2013.
He already doesn’t have enough power to be a full-time DH and where’s he batting to collect the minimum 90 RBI a full-time DH should collect?
Cast aside sentimentality and admit that he is on the decline or at least getting older not better.
The Yanks cannot give him 3 or more years on his 1996-2010 and don’t have to as again they gave him a decade-long contract and record one for a lifelong Yankee.
I hope he can turn it around and finish with at least .300 BA and .370 OBP this year, but somehow I don’t see that. I see more like .283 BA and .355 OBP with maybe 13 HR and 70 RBI. Those numbers are not good enough to give him 3 or more years, they just aren’t.
Cano probably could have parked that ball over the right field wall but he’s afraid to ruffle managements feathers.
Chris Paul’s risky; unsure if he’ll be back to form after his surgery this year. What I’ve heard is that he either had a meniscus or part of a meniscus removed.
What’s even more sickening for Knick fans to digest is the tidbit that’s come out, “If he had come to New York, James would have had the ball in his hands at least 80% of the time. That’s why they didn’t draft Brandon Jennings in 2009. So now they’re paying for that strategy.”
They passed on Jennings because they thought Lebron was in the bag. If that’s not the sign of a poorly run front office, I don’t know what is.
“Andy’s a hard luck loser tonight. He was great.”
Are you watching the game?
It’s going to be a tough call with Jeter. His defense remains pretty good, thanks to a late-career improvement. But his bat is definitely slipping. Still, it’s hard to find a shortstop that even gives you as much as Jete’s late career production. Think about it; there aren’t many really good ones out there.
Please score here.
Melo is expected to re-up with Denver.
There isn’t much out there that has suggested he’s going to turn down that offer, other than the speculation of desperate Knicks fans who are rightfully upset that their team and future was completely gutted for a near futile home run attempt at LeBron James.
So lets see, the Knicks have no point guard and no center. I love Gallo, but I’m not quite sure if his upside is anything more than Mike Miller was in his prime. Wilson Chandler’s value has been grossly inflated by his high minute and shot totals. On a per minute basis, he’s a slightly below average wing who happens to be a very high volume shooter.
I still don’t think the Knicks are working with much here. They also passed on a crapload of talent with their 2 second round picks to take 2 guys who in my opinion have no business being anywhere near an NBA roster. If it took JJ Redick, one of the greatest players in NCAA history (forgive me for being biased because I’m a Duke student), four years to become an even competent NBA player, does anyone think Andy Rautins has a prayer of cracking an NBA rotation?
Melo is expected to re-up with Denver.
There isn’t much out there that has suggested he’s going to turn down that offer, other than the speculation of desperate Knicks fans who are rightfully upset that their team and future was completely gutted for a near futile home run attempt at LeBron James.
So lets see, the Knicks have no point guard and no center. I love Gallo, but I’m not quite sure if his upside is anything more than Mike Miller was in his prime. Wilson Chandler’s value has been grossly inflated by his high minute and shot totals. On a per minute basis, he’s a slightly below average wing who happens to be a very high volume shooter.
I still don’t think the Knicks are working with much here. They also passed on a crapload of talent with their 2 second round picks to take 2 guys who in my opinion have no business being anywhere near an NBA roster. If it took JJ Redick, one of the greatest players in NCAA history (forgive me for being biased because I’m a Duke student), four years to become an even competent NBA player, does anyone think Andy Rautins has a prayer of cracking an NBA rotation?
The score right now should be 4-1 Yankees.
Hitting with RISP has been a problem ALL season.
This Seattle team just got swept by Kansas City at home.
The feeble Royals scored 16 runs in three games – this line-up has ZERO runs thru 7 innings.
Will they hit with RISP now?
The Yankees have to learn they just can’t turn it on when they feel like it.
The Yankees won’t let Jeter walk. Even if it means giving him 3 years which would obviously be a risky contract. He’s the franchise really. EVen if they give him a bad contract that could hurt them in the future they will do it. They won’t be like the Sox forcing guys out.
anyways I think that when Jeter thinks he has lost it completely he will just retire. I cant see him being one of those guys who holds on and tries just for the stats and the record books. His life is basically too good for that haha and he has too much pride. when he’s done he will step away and spend the rest of his life with minka in that compound of a house down in tampa and enjoy family life.
Nice baserunning!
Great base running by Arod…..
Great baserunning by Arod.
Bernie July 9th, 2010 at 12:02 am
I heard something about an open letter-
Can someone please post the entire, massive letter for the 10th time tonight?
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Sure:
“Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;
As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.
This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his “decision” unlike anything ever “witnessed” in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.
Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.
The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.
There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.
You simply don’t deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.
You have given so much and deserve so much more.
In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:
“I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE”
You can take it to the bank.
If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our “motivation” to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works.
This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown “chosen one” sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And “who” we would want them to grow-up to become.
But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called “curse” on Cleveland, Ohio.
The self-declared former “King” will be taking the “curse” with him down south. And until he does “right” by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.
Just watch.
Sleep well, Cleveland.
Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day….
I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:
DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue…. “
Big! alright just a fly ball Jorge. Come on
Smart of Cano to stay at first there. It’s what Cashman wanted.
cano should take second….
Matt, now you’re just being annoying.
“Will they hit with RISP now?
The Yankees have to learn they just can’t turn it on when they feel like it.”
Brilliant. So the Yankees didn’t score or hit with RISP because they didn’t “Feel like it”
Posada totally rolled over on that one.
posada….grrrrrrr.
Tie game. Not pretty, but it’s a run.
tie game anyway.
A-Rod got himself a RBI
Curtis is going to crank one here.
Tyler, I’m not saying that Vargas is in actuality better than Phil – I’ve no idea. I’m just saying that he’s having a very good year and sometimes you have to give the pitcher credit.
damn, Posada!
Three hits and a long fly for Curtis! Is he coming around?
Eh i guess ill take it
this would be a great spot for another clutch grandy homer
go go go grandy
TarHeelYank July 9th, 2010 at 12:17 am
Posada was trying to make contact to drive in the tying run, and he did just that. An excellent piece of hitting by Posada.
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He got the run in with 2 strikes which was great but I don’t know if I would call that excellent. It potentially killed the inning. He at least tied it though so I’m happy about that.
Tyler, contact yes. DP no.
Granderson has swung the bat really well tonight…hopefully a sign of things to come.
oops, meant Tarheel
# Matt July 9th, 2010 at 12:13 am
The score right now should be 4-1 Yankees.
Hitting with RISP has been a problem ALL season.
This Seattle team just got swept by Kansas City at home.
The feeble Royals scored 16 runs in three games – this line-up has ZERO runs thru 7 innings.
Will they hit with RISP now?
The Yankees have to learn they just can’t turn it on when they feel like it.
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Matt : Go to bed ! Embarrassing !
This Granderson guy is a hitting machine.
cs-
i agree.
Okay. Tied up. Let’s pull it out in the 9th. 4 in a row to start a West coast swing would just be gorgeous.
Jesus Christ – why can’t these hitters take a pitch in a hitter’s count like Gardner had and let the runner get into scoring position?
Girardi is definitely going to keep Andy out there until he is totally gassed. Too bad this bullpen is so bad.
Pettitte can go another inning easy.
just please no joba, guarantee he’ll blow it.
If Cano had run when A-Rod did, it would be at least 2-1 ! He still sleeps a little.
Cano’s poor instincts base running cost the Yankees the lead. It should have beed 2nd and 3rd nobody out. Posada’s groundout would have resulted in 1 out runner on third. He would have scored on Granderson’s single, little things win close games, I love Cano but that was real real poor base running. No way the catcher throws behind Arod, he’d have made it easily. Too bad might cast Andy the game.
# Joba Farnsworth July 9th, 2010 at 12:23 am
just please no joba, guarantee he’ll blow it.
LOL
Cano is much slower than you think. There’s no guarantee he would have made it to second.
Come on ump 2 of those pitches were close
These leadoff walks are not a good approach, Andy.
Mariners will test Andy again by bunting
Andy pitched very well tonight, but he simply can’t walk a guy to leadoff the inning who has zero power.
Joba warming
Ump froze on 1 0 pitch to Figgins, looked right over
Gameday says Figgins should have struck out, actually. Balls 3 and 4 clearly had the inside part of the plate.
Oohhh Figgins was lost on that one
“Matt
Really, seriously, you remind me of my ex-wife…………….do you ever quit b*tc#@ng?
Please stop.
Please.
Pretty please with sugar on top.
WTH ! Approach ? he walked the guy, no APPROACH involved !!!# Chris W July 9th, 2010 at 12:25 am
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These leadoff walks are not a good approach, Andy.
Pitch tracker in Seattle shows those pitches were strikes…
There were close pitches in the first BB to Figgins as well.
# rconn23 July 9th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Andy pitched very well tonight, but he simply can’t walk a guy to leadoff the inning who has zero power.
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He can and did ! NUTSHELL !
Tom Hallion is the blind offender, in case you were wondering.
Matt,
You ever get the sneaking suspicion that the Yankees are just not that into you?
The offense is just so average
Figgins lead off walk. All but maybe 1 pitch were strikes http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....eamlb_1%2F
Branyan v. Pettitte: 0-10, 8 Ks. Ouch.
Pettite absolutely owns Branyan.
# Chris W July 9th, 2010 at 12:29 am
Tom Hallion is the blind offender, in case you were wondering.
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We wonder much more about YOU !
Andy is the Bomb
Pettitte was awesome, let’s get him a run, Joba to close, and go to bed.
Andy giving it to Hallion.
I don’t blame you, buddy.
andy for cy young?
it’s time for people to take that seriously
Fantastic outing by Pettite! It would be great to get a run here and just turn it right over to Mo and not have to worry about the Parks of the world having to keep it tied.
Need to some more runs here. Nice start by Andy.
In other news, LeBron better never show his face at Yankee Stadium anymore. He is no longer welcome, and I would hope, would receive the same treatment as a rowdy Boston fan.
the yanks are scoring next inning, they have to give that w to pettite he deserves it
Great job by Andy. I thought Joe would go to Joba there after Branyan but he didn’t and Petitte rewarded him for it. Another great outing by him.
pistol pete July 9th, 2010 at 12:31 am
Pettitte was awesome, let’s get him a run, Joba to close, and go to bed.
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I thought Mo was available even if he wasnt quite 100%?
Gateways July 9th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Need to some more runs here. Nice start by Andy.
In other news, LeBron better never show his face at Yankee Stadium anymore. He is no longer welcome, and I would hope, would receive the same treatment as a rowdy Boston fan.
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Lebron grew up a Bulls, Yankees, and Cowboys fan. You can’t get anymore frontrunner than that.
Alright. Get it started on your bday Russo.
one from Russo should do it.
lol, bad call.
swung at ball 3 and 4
I don’t blame Andy for wanting to pitch the 9th inning. He knows Joba is warming up…
Thats a dreadful at bat by Russo.
Can’t say I didn’t expect more of him up here so far.
“Lebron grew up a Bulls, Yankees, and Cowboys fan. You can’t get anymore frontrunner than that.”
You should get to know some of your fellow LoHud commenters.
# Michelle July 9th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Come on ump 2 of those pitches were close
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How long have you been a member of the intelligentsia ?
Tyler
I honestly don’t think the Yankees letting Jeter walk is the issue. I think the issue is will Jeter want to collect his 3000th hit in another uniform (since he’s not collecting it this year) and be the utlimate mercenary and phony doing so considering he was given a decade-long contract you and alot of other Yankee fans seem to forget he got? I don’t think so. He has zero leverage over the Yankees who he needs more than they need him.
The Yanks owe him nothing and vice versa. Both have to be realistic, and the reality is Jeter is all about excellence thus should not expect a deal of three years or more after he has hands down his worst offensive year if he has it. He is hands down at his worst this year, and if you think I want or am happy to say that, you’re nuts cuz I am very down. It hurts to see this once great player look like 1990-95 Don Mattingly II.
He is not the franchise, Mariano Rivera is. Mo is the only Yankee I’d sign for more than he’s worth because you name me a closer who can be 75% the closer he is for a decade or more.
I will say that if the Yanks signed say Edgar Renteria to replace Jeter, they would definitely need to upgrade at DH if Posada still catches and LF as Granderson isn’t cutting it (he just isn’t) not because Jeter is gone but because they’d need to make up for the loss of offensive production pre-2010 Jeter provided.
they are getting some here.
Come on Swish!!
One One game 9th inning and we’re leading off with Kevin Russo, please. Cash will you go get a bat and some bench. Russo should have walked if he knew how to work one, there was only 1 strike in that at bat. Great walk by Jete, let’s go Swish.
Nick in SF July 9th, 2010 at 12:35 am
“Lebron grew up a Bulls, Yankees, and Cowboys fan. You can’t get anymore frontrunner than that.”
You should get to know some of your fellow LoHud commenters.
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Lol I guess there are quite a few fair weather fans in here too. Those Cal Golden Bears fans though stay true through everything
Swish looks like he is using that same bat from last night that Cano suggested. Thing is like a magic wand
You know, their long era of irrelevance almost made me forget how much I hated the Mariners in the mid-90s. The hate is back.
I will say that if the Yanks signed say Edgar Renteria to replace Jeter, they would definitely need to upgrade at DH if Posada still catches and LF as Granderson isn’t cutting it (he just isn’t) not because Jeter is gone but because they’d need to make up for the loss of offensive production pre-2010 Jeter provided.I will say that if the Yanks signed say Edgar Renteria to replace Jeter, they would definitely need to upgrade at DH if Posada still catches and LF as Granderson isn’t cutting it (he just isn’t) not because Jeter is gone but because they’d need to make up for the loss of offensive production pre-2010 Jeter provided.
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Cookieface oe whatever !
Are you nuts ? Edgar Renteria !!! Know any more jokes ?
Swish was very Beltre like in that call lol
“I will say that if the Yanks signed say Edgar Renteria to replace Jeter,”
I didn’t read the post. LOL but this caught my eye as I was looking down. Holy Cr@p.
cookie-
First of all, they aren’t signing edgar renteria to replace jeter. if jeter did leave by some remote chance they will give the job to a young kid like nunez or pull off a big trade. but that isn’t going to happen. i couldnt really comprehend some of your post but did you call jeter phoney lol?
and i dont think he will want more than 3 years. he’s not going to be playing into his 40s in my opinion. i think hes looking foward to family life from what ive always read.
UnKnown July 9th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Swish looks like he is using that same bat from last night that Cano suggested. Thing is like a magic wand
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Singleton earlier said that it was the same bat Cano suggested last night.
What a great AB by the all-star.
Okay Tex! Put it away!
Swisher! unbelievable…. i bet they intentionally walk Tex and go at Arod and we all now the history of that!
Turrible from Tex.
Swish is a hitting machine. Too bad Jeter wasn’t running on that pitch. We know a sac fly is an extremely hard for the Yanks to do.
Or not. Alex?
Tyler, I could tell you stories….
Nope pitching to Tex! come on Tex keep up your recent hot streak!
Alex will pull through here.
He just missed that. It was a good pitch to hit.
Not Tex’s greatest swing.
and that is atrocious.
Darn!! Come on ALex pick him up.
Another great job with RISP.
The story of this game. Pathetic.
Cookie That’s the most absurb post I’ve ever seen, please refrain this blog is for serious fans.
“He is not the franchise, Mariano Rivera is. Mo is the only Yankee I?d sign for more than he?s worth because you name me a closer who can be 75% the closer he is for a decade or more.”
Thats a very outlandish statement.
Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of all time, but Derek Jeter might be the greatest shortstop to play this game since Honus Wagner.
There is no comparison in terms of value between an all time great shortstop and an all time great closer.
Every time someone tries to say that Rivera is the “franchise,” or something to that degree, I cringe a little bit. Its not that I don’t love Mo more than anyone else does. I still get the chills every time I see him in the game. But the value of someone who pitches 60-70 innings a year pales in comparison to a shortstop who is impacting every inning of every game.
Time him up here big boy Alex
ALEX!!!!
AROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boo me now.
Mr. Clutch has returned! atta boy Arod!
A-Clutch.
Arod!! Our reserve all-stars coming through big time on this road trip.
Arod has just been so clutch this year….its really unbelievable how often he is coming through for this team.
Wow, we needed him to do that. I wasn’t ready for out #3 with 2 men on.
Clutch-Rod…
told ya, pettite deserves that w
LeBron can root for the Yankees, but as Yankee fans (and likely Knicks fans) or NY fans, or heck just sports fans in general, I wouldn’t accept him as a Yankee fan.
I’ve heard lots of comparisons to the yankees, but I think it’s apples and oranges.
On a completely unrelated matter, AROD!!
ALEX!!!
I’m telling you, I like this worse, yet more clutch, Alex Rodriguez quite a bit more than I did a couple years ago.
Andy deserves this one.
That is an all star type clutch knock. Huge.
“Another great job with RISP.
The story of this game. Pathetic.”
i’m not even going to say anything.
Great job Arod, can’t say the same for Tex, now let’s hold our breath while Joba tries to close
Thank you Arod!! He saved Tex’s butt. A sac fly is always no where to be found in Yankee land.
# Matt July 9th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Another great job with RISP.
The story of this game. Pathetic.
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U R supposed to be in BED !
Absolutely money. Not his best year, but he’s had some huge hits.
“Arod has just been so clutch this year….its really unbelievable how often he is coming through for this team.”
blake
I disagree. It’s not just this year.
Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with having the one hit with RISP coming just in time to give the Yanks a two-run lead with Mo coming on.
Is Girardi nuts, Mo’s hurt and he’s bringing him in against Seattle in July, I seriously think all managers are idiots.
“now let’s hold our breath while Joba tries to close”
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Mo is available. Just not for more than 1 inning.
This game could be revenge for the Ichiro walk-off last Sept.
That one was like a “Scutaro” moment.
If Mo isn’t gonna be at all-star game, does anyone really think he’s pitching until after break ?
Of course not !
Tar,
well no, but he’s been great this year as well.
That by the way was a great send by Robby T. Paid off and even if it doesn’t great send. Stay aggressive
Nick-
I got ‘em in the Rose Bowl this year! If they don’t do it this year, they might never get in lol. The circumstances in the Pac 10 are just too perfect. Washington will be good with Sarkisian and Locker but I don’t think they are Rose Bowl good. Stanford should be good too with Luck but they will miss Touchdown Toby. USC- Lane Kiffin enough said. Oregon- Self Destructing. Oregon St- Can’t win a big game besides USC.
Alex is more clutch than Lebron.
How is Aardsma still their closer?
“If Mo isn’t gonna be at all-star game, does anyone really think he’s pitching until after break ?
Of course not !”
Umm…difference is that these games count.
Matt just got his cue to skedaddle.
Blake
I was j/k. Unbelievable.
Wow… the Cavs owner unloads on LeBron
Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;
As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.
This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his “decision” unlike anything ever “witnessed” in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.
Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.
The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.
There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.
You simply don’t deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.
You have given so much and deserve so much more.
In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:
“I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE”
You can take it to the bank.
If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our “motivation” to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works.
This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown “chosen one” sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And “who” we would want them to grow-up to become.
But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called “curse” on Cleveland, Ohio.
The self-declared former “King” will be taking the “curse” with him down south. And until he does “right” by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.
Just watch.
Sleep well, Cleveland.
Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day….
I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:
DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue….
http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/n.....00708.html
Guess I blew that one !
Yeah Ichiro slide into home on that walk off I believe. That was a sleepless night in seattle. Sorry I had to say it.
Tar,
I know. Lets go Mo! Close this baby out for your ole buddy Andy.
Tyler, I pray you’re right. I really do. The stars do seem aligned, but Cal has lots of problems of its own.
But when I said I could tell you stories, I wasn’t talking about Cal.
Anyway, time to stay positive. Mo is in. Gotta that that ERA back below 1.00.
Jim with breaking news.
Obviously Mo is not hurt, just some aches and pains. He is available to the Yankees but it’s not worth him pithing in an exhibtion that might not benefit the Yanks.
wow, what a loser Dan Gilbert is.
He is a failure and is only making himself look bad.
My favorite part is the double negative: “nor will NEVER betray you.” Nice proof-reading.
Baseball, Yanks !
# UnKnown July 9th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Yeah Ichiro slide into home on that walk off I believe. That was a sleepless night in seattle. Sorry I had to say it.
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Did he? I don’t remember that. But I was absolutely twisted at the time.
Mo and Andy trying to extend the record for a starter and closer to hook up for a win and save.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=9777175
Andy’s Dove ads are out….
Mo needs to break out a change up or breaking ball here. lol Kotchman is having too good of an at bat for a nothing hitter.
UPDATE: Dan Gilbert just guaranteed that Dan Rather will win a Pulitzer and Mellissa Gilbert will return to the Prairie before LeBron wins a title.
come on Mo. Throw him a high FB.
Bronx Jeers – I’m pretty sure it was quite the ridiculous scene. Much like “The Decision” tonight.
Who was the idiot who knocked Pettitte earlier tonight??? He should have been in bed anyway.
Frankly, I have a hard time believing Dan Gilbert could have actually said that.
It’s so idiotic and so pitiful. If he wasn’t drunk when he said it, then I feel sorry for Cleveland Cavs fans. Their team is in shambles and apparently have the dumbest owner in sports.
They DO deserve better. A better owner.
That exhibition game will probably benefit the Yankees more than any other team. But I agree Mo shouldn’t pitch since the Yankees need him more once the benefit reaches them.
How is Aardsma still their closer?
cuz lowe just had back surgery and league is as inconsistent as a summer day is long…
Not a whole lot of class demonstrated with any of the Lebron madness tonight.
With a win tonight, the Yankees are on pace for 103 wins.
Not too shabby.
Won the battle
# BD (Boston Dave) July 9th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Frankly, I have a hard time believing Dan Gilbert could have actually said that.
It’s so idiotic and so pitiful. If he wasn’t drunk when he said it, then I feel sorry for Cleveland Cavs fans. Their team is in shambles and apparently have the dumbest owner in sports.
They DO deserve better. A better owner.
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I honestly think the only course of action for the Cavs was to paint the Cop-Out King as the worst villain in the history of Ohio. It’s working.
SAS
It was teddy, called him an idiot. Can you believe that?
# Michelle July 9th, 2010 at 12:54 am
Mo needs to break out a change up or breaking ball here. lol Kotchman is having too good of an at bat for a nothing hitter.
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CHANGE ? LOL LMAO !!!
Well, Matthilda has left once the Yanks took the lead (what else is new), but, sadly, he forgot to take his twin sister, Michelle. They definately share the same brain cell as well as DNA.
Nick in SF July 9th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Tyler, I pray you’re right. I really do. The stars do seem aligned, but Cal has lots of problems of its own.
But when I said I could tell you stories, I wasn’t talking about Cal.
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Ha, I guess about certain posters then. We will have to save those for another time.
All positive energy toward the great Mariano.
Frankly, I have a hard time believing Dan Gilbert could have actually said that.
It?s so idiotic and so pitiful. If he wasn?t drunk when he said it, then I feel sorry for Cleveland Cavs fans. Their team is in shambles and apparently have the dumbest owner in sports.
They DO deserve better. A better owner.
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Its awesome.
I hope over the next couple of days he exposes LeBron for the cowardly mercenary he actually is.
He didn’t return a single one of Gilbert’s phone calls or text messages after the season. The Cavs themselves didn’t know about his choice until five minutes before the announcement was made, and it came from one of LeBron’s cronies, NOT the blowhard himself.
I think Gilbert is doing a fantastic job of channeling anger into fan support.
Frankly, I have a hard time believing Dan Gilbert could have actually said that.
It?s so idiotic and so pitiful. If he wasn?t drunk when he said it, then I feel sorry for Cleveland Cavs fans. Their team is in shambles and apparently have the dumbest owner in sports.
They DO deserve better. A better owner.
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Its awesome.
I hope over the next couple of days he exposes LeBron for the cowardly mercenary he actually is.
He didn’t return a single one of Gilbert’s phone calls or text messages after the season. The Cavs themselves didn’t know about his choice until five minutes before the announcement was made, and it came from one of LeBron’s cronies, NOT the blowhard himself.
I think Gilbert is doing a fantastic job of channeling anger into fan support.
Nick – You try too hard. I almost expect you to hold a special on ESPN in hopes of gaining attention. Many of your jokes are not funny.
BD,
It was verified that it did come from him.
That’s why LeBron is an Ex-Cav.
If the guy is saying that stuff publicly, you can imagine what he must be like privately.
With a win tonight, the Yankees will have won 6 in a row.
Not too shabby
Papelbon is probably on the phone with Francona right now asking his skip if he could somehow come down with the same injury Rivera has….
Papelbon is probably on the phone with Francona right now asking his skip if he could somehow come down with the same injury Rivera has….
Matt is off trying to pry his foot out of his mouth.
“Frankly, I have a hard time believing Dan Gilbert could have actually said that.”
It did remind me of drunk dialing.
Yes Andy and MO!!!
# blake July 9th, 2010 at 12:59 am
Matt is off trying to pry his foot out of his mouth.
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U have to excuse Matt, he’s not well.
What a road trip this has been so far.
That’s about as tough a perfect 9th inning as you’ll ever see Rivera have.
What a great start to the roadtrip!
Mo down again !
always a good sign when alex is being interviewed at the end of the game
always a good sign when alex is being interviewed at the end of the game
Boston is 5 back. Just like that.
Always ! LOL
GreenBeret7 July 9th, 2010 at 1:00 am
That’s about as tough a perfect 9th inning as you’ll ever see Rivera have.
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18 strikes, 4 balls. He is truly a machine out there.
Wow 16 yr anniversary for Alex since his first appearance
# cs in la July 9th, 2010 at 1:02 am
Boston is 5 back. Just like that.
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Remember when they were 0.5 back and everyone was panicking?
Yeah, me neither.
Goodnight all.
..but the Rays are 2.0 games behind us.
Nice start to the trip
Already a winning one, even if we lose the next 3
Congrats, Yankee fans.
Same ol’ story for my guys … great starting pitching, but no clutch hitting and bullpen implosion.
I’ll be at the next three games at The Safe. Hoping to see a great Lee performance tomorrow night (possibly his last in an M’s uni) and a very Happy Felix Day on Saturday.
I’d be happy with a series split
If that letter is for real then we may be seeing at least one reason Lebron left Cleveland….Gilbert is either crazy or likes to write drunken public letters…..either way its not very good.
Yeah, bet big time free agents will be tripping all over themselves to play for Gilbert. Hope the hate was worth it Dan.
There’s much to be said about teams like Seattle that will battle the best team in baseball, game after game. They can be dangerous, but, clearly shows a losing mentality that they can only get that drive against one team. They make their season when they beat the Yanks. Arizona is the same way. That should really kill their fans when the team rolls over for other teams that they should beat.
Finally, this LeBron crap is over. Hopefully people stop talking about it on a BASEBALL BLOG.
Better than the Rays AND the Sox being 2 GB
I don’t see how anyone could possibly defend what Gilbert did tonight. It’s absolutely pathetic.
I never understand the rationale that the player always owes the franchise. Lebron spent seven years with them. Reupped with Cleaveland on a short-term contract with them, even.
He gave Cavs management a chance to surround him with a capable supporting cast. Their best move, picking up Antwan Jamsion. Not good enough.
The TV special was a joke, but LeBron left $30 million on the table to take what he felt was the best shot at winning a title.
You’re not a “mercenary” when you spend seven years with a team and then take much less money to play second fiddle to Dwayne Wade because you want to win a championship.
That logic is beyond flawed.
Career win # 240 for Pettitte.
Compass-
Personally, I think the Yanks split the Lee, Felix games and take 3/4.
Has there been any thought to moving League into the closer role and taking Aardsma out of it? I never liked Aardsma. All he does is come at you with fastballs. And his fastball is good but its not a plus pitch in my opinion.
Seattle had just been swept by KC at home their last series. When they play the Yanks they really look like a tough team. Good starting pitching, Ichiro sets the table and they seem to scratch out a couple runs. But somehow they are 17 games under. Just can’t score enough runs and come out a winner…
Is that 6 straight wins?
Gilbert made some very valid points.
Go read some basketball forums at RealGM… the same stuff that he said is being repeated by fans of every team not named the Heat.
Pettitte could have been #1 or #2 in ERA except for questionable scoring tonight and in LA when 5 of those runs that scored should have been unearned instead of only 1 unearned.
Andrew Freaking Pettitte….
Sit back folks…and observe – - a winner.
But wait….. Dan Gilbert has more to say……
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/.....id=5365793
Andy is the reverse LeBron. No excuses, no quitting.
What the heck do you want the owner to say? His franchise is finished. Unless he gets lucky in the lottery and drafts the next LBJ or Durant, he is screwed. NO FA wants to play in Cleveland. They have no assets for a trade.
His franchise value now basically is devalued by 50%, they will prob. average about half of what they did with James. Their TV Ratings, which were the best in the league, will now be the worst in the league.
If he’s going down, he might as well drag LBJ with him. Classless? Maybe. But what does he have to lose? His franchise turned upside down overnight and will stay that way for a long time.
Good for Gilbert. Drag the guy through the mud. Give us details of the Delonte West incident too
Well why go after James if that is how you really feel? And they weren’t going after him for appearances sake; they wanted him.
Whether you like what he said about James or not, it doesn’t come off as something that is best for the organization. Gilbert and all those who are patting him on the back don’t know how this will play with future free agents. If it doesn’t play well (and you already have a hard time selling the city of Cleveland, for Pete’s sake) was it worth it?
Had the Yanks scored more this year earlier in 4 of the no decisions, Pettitte is sitting on 15 wins right now. Only 3 games in 17 starts that he’s allowed more than three runs.
It is not LeBron’s responsibility to make sure Gilbert’s franchise worth doesn’t drop. Smart people don’t put everyone else’s interests before their own. They don’t owe the teams or the fans anything.
Gilbert has singlehandedly managed to turn public sentiment mounting against Lebron back his way.
Gilbert looks like an absolute joke right now. Lebron owes him nothing. James turned Cleveland into a basketball mecca for seven years.
The front office wasn’t competent enough to find the right complimentary pieces or find a legitimate NBA coach during that time.
They should be glad it lasted as long as it did.
Gilbert coming out with guns blazing. This is exactly what Cleveland fans needed to hear.
As the saying goes, “They do not need a hero. They need a villain, so I’ll give them one.”
Gilbert is playing this exactly the right way.
Use “LeTraitor” as his rallying cry. Hate makes a fanbase strong.
WOW – Swish is proving he deserves to be an AS. A great win, Grandy hitting lefties, this team is about to go on a big roll. The Rays next weekend will be big series. Go Yankees – Keep the line moving!
Gilbert could have voiced his displeasure and tried to give the fans reassurance without the tone. Sometimes its all in how you say something. If Cleveland is not able to get a big time free agent in the near future its on the owner.
vblade July 9th, 2010 at 1:12 am
Andy is the reverse LeBron. No excuses, no quitting.
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Very well said!
I don’t want my kids to grow up to be like Gilbert. They’re already more mature than him, and they aren’t even teenagers yet.
Congrats Gilbert! You took a lot of puzzle out of this conversation, and the benefactor of your rant is LBFJ!
Woe to you, Cavs hoop. LBJ is coming, and he won’t be kind.
A strong fanbase disappears quickly with a sorry team buffered by a amateur front office and ownership.
rconn23, Gilbert could care less about public sentiment.
As the owner he has to have the brokenhearted Cleveland fans’ back. Making LeBron the villain was the only move he had left on the board.
# tala08 July 9th, 2010 at 1:22 am
A strong fanbase disappears quickly with a sorry team buffered by a amateur front office and ownership.
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That’s exactly it. He’s trying to mask their incompetence with this rallying cry. The Cleveland fans are licking it up.
What valid points did Gilbert make? ThatLebron betrayed the the city of Cleveland? Yeah, salient argument from a guy acting like a 12-year old. Gilbert is making himself and the organization look foolish.
What player in their right mind would want to play for the Cavs now after they’ve seen the way Gilbert has acted? Good luck getting that champiobship.
James left $30 million on the table, because he wanted to win. Miami is a great city, but it’s a terriblle sports town. He wasn’t wowed by the Heat mystique lol. He went there only to play with other superstars and for a better chance to win a title.
Gilbert said James quit on the Cavs during their second-round series against the Boston Celtics, who rallied from a 2-1 deficit to eliminate Cleveland.
“He quit,” Gilbert said. “Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar.”
The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland’s coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had “spoiled” people with his play over seven seasons.
Gilbert also said he believes James quit on the Cavs in Game 6 of their series in 2009 against Orlando.
“Go back and look at the tape,” he said. “How many shots did he take?”
Gilbert, who has owned the Cavs for five years, said he was most disappointed by James’ behavior in the months leading up to the superstar’s announcement that he is going to Miami to play with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Gilbert said James never returned a single phone message or text since the end of the season and that the Cavs were not informed of James’ decision until he went on the air.
Gilbert said Rich Paul, one of James’ business partners, called the Cavs moments before the announcement.
“LeBron James needs to go to another team with two superstars already so he can win a championship,” Gilbert said. “We will win a championship before [the Heat] do.”
Gilbert sure doesn’t look good, but you can’t blame him for feeling bitter. He gave into every whim and demand LeBron had. And it wasn’t enough. On top of that LeBron had every intention of teaming up with Wade. A good guy would have let the team trade him for something, anything.
Has there been any thought to moving League into the closer role and taking Aardsma out of it?
Tyler ~
I certainly hope not.
Brandon had a great June, but otherwise has been pretty horrible. Not a good sign when your 8th inning guy is involved in eleven decisions already (5-6). ‘ course David now has 6 losses as well, so who knows…
Hate Gilbert, but he’s making the right moves here. The fans, the paying customers, needed to know that the owner has their back no matter what.
m, the Cavs had no intention of trading LeBron. They said that a long time ago. So that is not on LeBron.
He can be bitter all he wants but being a better businessman should come first. In this case it didn’t.
Folks are being played by Gilbert and the Cavs with this silliness and too blind or emotional to see it.
I think everyone is in agreement though, that the whole “The Decision” crap was pretty tasteless and an unnecessary dagger to his hometown.
Tala, okay I’ll give you that. But when lebron’s been planning this for 3 years, since he convinced Wade to sign a 3 yr extension. Nobody should begrudge lebron for leaving, but it’s now clear what his plan was all along. He shouldn’t pretend otherwise. They figured it out to the last penny.
The right move?! Are you guys crazy? The LeBron-less Cavs are the Timberwolves. When the Heat hoist next year, what will Gilbert say then?
“He had to play with all-stars to win.”. Translation: we couldn’t get this done in Cleveland.
I get the guy and city are hurting, but take the high road. The guy killed, r@ped, and pillaged for you for 7 years. Be thankful for what you had, because there are a dozen or more teams that would kill for one season with LBJ.
Miami has a nice core, but Pat Riley will be bargain hunting to fill out the next 7 guys for the roster….Besides, who will be playing Center ????? The Heat isn’t even the best team in Florida….The NBA Eastern Conference road still goes thru Boston / Orlando……..
Lebron didn’t handle this right but Gilbert comes off as a jackass.
Not exactly the textbook formula for how you go about attracting players to come play for your franchise.
Compass-
Haven’t really followed the M’s close so I didn’t realize that League was already 5-6 and didn’t hae a good year. I always liked the guy because his stuff is electric.
CompassRosy,
nice to see you as always!
You beat us last series.
Hopefully it’s our turn
I was really puzzled by the Mariners moves this past offseason but if they can get a nice haul for Lee, they should have some nice young players in a few years.
The best thing about League is that he’s from Hawaii!
wow, m, that’s harsh!
I’m not done.
Any word on the trinkets LeBron bought for his new team?
Pat M,
I don’t think the Heat will have a hard time finding guys to play for less money to be a part of the Dream Team.
I would never hand those guys the title, but they are going to be one heck of a team when it’s all said and done.
If they can get a sharp shooter or two like Kyle Korver or even an Eddie House (both unrestricted FA) along with a couple bigger bodies (Ben Wallace, Joe Brown?) to stand in the middle and rebound, they’ll be fine.
Of course they’ll have to wait until 2011 to make any big improvements, but they’ll be quite a team.
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I think the Lakers still take them. The Lakers just have too much size up front. Gasol and Bynum are absolute monsters. Unless the Heat acquire a 7 footer who can bang they won’t come out on top I dont think. Kobe can neutralize D Wade and Artest can harrass James. And Gasol can match up with Bosh.
“Gilbert could have voiced his displeasure and tried to give the fans reassurance without the tone. ”
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exactly.
It reminds me a little of John Henry’s ridiculous tweeting about the Yanks and his bitterness towards Mark Teixeira (and the Tex curse).
We all know how that worked out.
It’s hard to believe but Henry still had a little more class than Gilbert. Gilbert just comes off as a sore loser instead of the determined winner he wishes he was.
An interesting radio interview with Cliff Lee, today. He said that he asked for an extension with Seattle in Spring Training, but, was turned down flat, with the team saying they weren’t interested in that. Lee said that he was still willing to resign after he showed that he was healthy. Wonder if he’d still be open to signing a long term extension and forgo free agency.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=sea
Tyler,
They sound scary, moreso than boston’s big 3. But you hear this, “they don’t have to beat the lakers this year, but if they don’t make it out of the east they’ll be a disaster.
Personally, they’re scary. But they still have to go through the magic and Boston.
Personally I hope that the Cop Out King and company lose in the first round. There is no I in team, as they say.
A Cleveland fan’s typical reaction to the Gilbert rant:
“Dear Mr. Gilbert :
For 49 year I have been alive and been a Cleveland fan, and you are the first owner that has had our back. You are dead right about this monster! He is self absorbed and we witnessed Lebron James cold bloodedly stab us in the back with smiles, while his two friends Wade and Bosh hide behind a bush in the dark. This was a crime against all Ohioians, here and around the globe. But finally we have an owner that loves our city as much as we do. Don’t worry Mr. Gilbert I believe many NBA smaller markets are gonna start sticking it to the larger markets.
God Bless you for this statement because we needed a true hero to stand up for us in our hour of need. We witnessed three superstars gut an entire city of fans who believed in his words… tonight I believe we saw him unveil why he laid down in game 5 and took your millions and gave no effort in return. He blamed his teammates and the organization, then walk away like a coward….”
I’d say Danny’s got them all in the palm of his hand.
GB7,
Did he not say he was going to free agency? That’s a great pitchers park, but he won’t win anything with them.
I think the Heat need to convince Ben Wallace to join the team and not go back to the Pistons.
That’s addition #1.
#2 is a sharp-shooter like Kyle Korver (though he may not want to take such a big pay cut)
#3? See if Derek Fisher wants a change of scenery (and a pay cut
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vblade,
some Cavs fans may appreciate Gilbert’s rant right now while they are in the midst of this delusional cloud of frustration.
but when they win 25 games the next couple years they will forget all about his loud barking that he can’t back up.
# BD (Boston Dave) July 9th, 2010 at 2:01 am
vblade,
some Cavs fans may appreciate Gilbert’s rant right now while they are in the midst of this delusional cloud of frustration.
but when they win 25 games the next couple years they will forget all about his loud barking that he can’t back up.
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True, but as a PR move, this is Gilbert’s only recourse. This buys him a bit of time to think of what to do next, because his business just took a huge hit. He needs to stoke the fire.
m July 9th, 2010 at 1:58 am
GB7,
Did he not say he was going to free agency? That’s a great pitchers park, but he won’t win anything with them.
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He asked for an extension after the trade, during ST and when he came off of the DL. If he’s still interested, it would certainly change the thoughts of him being a 2 month rental.
I just want to hear the first free agent shy away from Cleveland with hesitation about playing for Gilbert as one of the reasons. Wonder if the fans will appreciate how he had their backs then.
Had the Yanks scored more this year earlier in 4 of the no decisions, Pettitte is sitting on 15 wins right now. Only 3 games in 17 starts that he’s allowed more than three runs.
GB ~
Excuse me if I don’t shed any tears for Andy.
-Felix has posted 15 quality starts and is 6-5
-Jason has posted 12 quality starts and is 6-4
And, if you want to look at the total picture: 54 QS for the team = 34 wins.
Sad, sad offense. Bad, bad bullpen … or vice-versa
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The best thing about League is that he’s from Hawaii!
Yeah, at this point I’m thinking they should have kept the other Hawaiian … Texiera
# tala08 July 9th, 2010 at 2:05 am
I just want to hear the first free agent shy away from Cleveland with hesitation about playing for Gilbert as one of the reasons. Wonder if the fans will appreciate how he had their backs then.
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Probably not, but he’s hell bent on bringing James down with him. All the dirty laundry being aired out now.
You should read the letter of the Cav’s wrote on the huffingtonpost.com He talks about Lebron as if he was a dog! They have the actual letter printed.
There’s no way in hell Derek Fisher is leaving the Lakers to play for the heat. No way in he’ll. I said it earlierand I’ll say it again, the heat aren’t better than the lakers and they aren’t even the best team in the east right now.
I fail to see how they’ll attract enough pieces to get god enough to win a championship, but we’ll see.
Lebron comes off like an idiot if the Heat don’t win I. The next three years.
He’ll also NEVER have iconic status even if they do win. I really think Wade gassed him to make a dummy move.
“True, but as a PR move, this is Gilbert’s only recourse.”
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I suppose. I still think he could have handled it better.
saying LeBron is cursed?
That’s funny because you were just begging that “cursed” player to stay with your team.
Guaranteeing your team will win a title before Miami? Unnecessary.
He could have inspired the fans without coming off so badly.
But why Greenwich, Connecticut? I don’t get it.
What about Omaha?
Mexico City would have been an interesting choice. Auckland, New Zealand as well.
I once made a pretty big decision in Dublin. Remember, Guiness helps you get to the bottom of it all.
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind having him back. Strange he didn’t do well. Players usually do well after leaving the Yankees. Must’ve been your scouting.
But he really has no control over bringing LeBron down. If Miami wins none of it matters and the belief would be that he was right to leave and go somewhere with better players (something Gilbert couldn’t do in Cleveland). Its in LeBron’s (and Miami’s) control.
# BD (Boston Dave) July 9th, 2010 at 2:10 am
“True, but as a PR move, this is Gilbert’s only recourse.”
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I suppose. I still think he could have handled it better.
saying LeBron is cursed?
That’s funny because you were just begging that “cursed” player to stay with your team.
Guaranteeing your team will win a title before Miami? Unnecessary.
He could have inspired the fans without coming off so badly.
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He had to stoke the anger of the fanbase, and I can’t really blame him.
The Cavaliers franchise is screwed. They just let the best player in the league walk away without even a sign and trade.
They’re grasping at straws now, and the longest straw is the city’s current hatred of “LeTraitor”.
“Probably not, but he’s hell bent on bringing James down with him. All the dirty laundry being aired out now.”
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Somehow I don’t think LeBron gives a rats —- about what Gilbert has to say.
The rantings of a helpless, defeated owner don’t really qualify as dirty laundry.
# tala08 July 9th, 2010 at 2:12 am
But he really has no control over bringing LeBron down. If Miami wins none of it matters and the belief would be that he was right to leave and go somewhere with better players (something Gilbert couldn’t do in Cleveland). Its in LeBron’s (and Miami’s) control.
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I think Gilbert’s gonna milk this as long as he can. Expect more anti-LeBron propaganda over the next few days.
Turning Ohio against LeBron is his best course of action, and it’s easiest as of this moment. It masks all the organizations’ failures and serves as a tremendous rally cry. At least for the next few months.
“They’re grasping at straws now, and the longest straw is the city’s current hatred of “LeTraitor”.”
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If Miami were a rival of Cleveland, maybe he’s a traitor. This isn’t Jeter leaving for the Red Sox.
There is absolutely nothing LeBron did that justifies that title.
Cleveland didn’t “own” LeBron and they certainly did NOTHING to try to keep him there in terms of building a championship team.
If Cleveland fans are really that immature (I know all of them are not), then they deserve their perpetual futility.
BD (Boston Dave) July 9th, 2010 at 2:12 am
“Probably not, but he’s hell bent on bringing James down with him. All the dirty laundry being aired out now.”
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Somehow I don’t think LeBron gives a rats —- about what Gilbert has to say.
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Probably not, but it’s more posturing for the fans than actually bringing down LeBron. The organization needs to paint itself as the good guy.
sorry, typo, make that 51 (not 54 QS) …
in any case WAY too many for so few wins
# BD (Boston Dave) July 9th, 2010 at 2:15 am
“They’re grasping at straws now, and the longest straw is the city’s current hatred of “LeTraitor”.”
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If Miami were a rival of Cleveland, maybe he’s a traitor. This isn’t Jeter leaving for the Red Sox.
There is absolutely nothing LeBron did that justifies that title.
Cleveland didn’t “own” LeBron and they certainly did NOTHING to try to keep him there in terms of building a championship team.
If Cleveland fans are really that immature (I know all of them are not), then they deserve their perpetual futility.
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From what I’m reading on any Cleveland-related website, the vitriol is like nothing I’ve ever seen. People are literally wishing for him to have a career ending injury and for him to never win a championship, or to go broke within a few years of retiring.
It’s nasty stuff.
I agree this is definitely to hide their own shortcomings and people are buying it like fools.
Wade is surely loved in Miami but folks shouldn’t get too carried away and act like LeBron will be Scottie Pippen. He’ll still be able to get his glory and shine. Its not like Wade in Miami is MJ in Chicago or Jeter in NY.
The talking heads thought Chicago would’ve been the better basketball move.
How many players do they have now? 4?5? Add their 3 draft picks. They still need 4 players to suit up? They’re going to have a 6-man rotation? Lucky thing they’re so young!
BTW, who’s their center? Shaq?
“I took my 2 LeBron jerseys and shredded them up and urinated on both of them. My son threw eggs and some old salsa and some smelly fish sauce on them to give them the right touch. We had planned to burn them but we stopped just short of the feat.”
That’s one of the milder reactions…
He asked for an extension after the trade, during ST and when he came off of the DL. If he’s still interested, it would certainly change the thoughts of him being a 2 month rental.
He didn’t “ask” for an extension. Today on the show he mentioned that if the M’s were to offer something, he’d like to see it prior to the season, to avoid distraction. He didn’t come off the DL until after the season started (April 30th).
And, to be fair, we haven’t heard both sides (and maybe never will).
In any case, it has been a joy to watch Cliff at his craft … he WILL be missed ;(
Well, they paid for them already, they can do whatever they want. LeBron already got his cut. LOL
“Wade is surely loved in Miami but folks shouldn?t get too carried away and act like LeBron will be Scottie Pippen. He?ll still be able to get his glory and shine. Its not like Wade in Miami is MJ in Chicago or Jeter in NY.”
I know a lot of people in Southern Florida and spend some time down there myself every year, and I’m not so sure about this.
Wade is very, very close to being MJ in Chicago or Jeter in New York down there. Its an awkward sports town of sorts and he has given it an international face and consistent credibility. Considering they’ve never had an athlete close to his caliber, he’s probably every bit as popular in Miami as Jeter is here.
This is not to mention that Wade is infinitely more likable off the court than James is. He’s every bit the player that LeBron is and he didn’t spend the last two years running this ridiculous campaign culminating in a one hour special that was so narcissistic it was hilarious.
I came across a new “QWitness” t-shirt, lmao.
G-C July 9th, 2010 at 2:27 am
This is not to mention that Wade is infinitely more likable off the court than James is. He’s every bit the player that LeBron is and he didn’t spend the last two years running this ridiculous campaign culminating in a one hour special that was so narcissistic it was hilarious.
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Wade is much more of a clutch performer than the Cop Out King will ever be.
“People are literally wishing for him to have a career ending injury and for him to never win a championship, or to go broke within a few years of retiring.”
The same way Seattle treats A-Rod and that wasn’t his home town.
I had to leave the house at 9:30 eastern time, but I did catch LeBron’s stone face when Gray asked if it was Miami. And I nearly fell over when Gray asked him if he’s still a nail biter. Speechless!
I’ve lived in Miami. Its not the same as Jeter in NY or MJ in Chicago. Not dissing Wade, just not the same as I see it.
“Wade is much more of a clutch performer than the Cop Out King will ever be.”
Having sat through a lot of playoff games in the Meadowlands in which my Nets were on the opposite side of, I couldn’t agree more.
I think we all know who’s getting the ball in the fourth quarter with less than two minutes left in a close game.
Far as I’m concerned for the folks that have all that hate for him, their lives are obviously lacking. This is sports. People need a reality check. Its his business and he should go where he wants and be able to put his interests first. He doesn’t that team, the city or the state a thing.
LeBron will become LeMagic.
He doesn’t * owe * that team, the city of the state a thing.
# G-C July 9th, 2010 at 2:33 am
“Wade is much more of a clutch performer than the Cop Out King will ever be.”
Having sat through a lot of playoff games in the Meadowlands in which my Nets were on the opposite side of, I couldn’t agree more.
I think we all know who’s getting the ball in the fourth quarter with less than two minutes left in a close game.
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Our Nets. More rebuilding for us ahead.
I can’t wait for the Store-Bought team to start infighting on who should have the last shot.
The same way Seattle treats A-Rod and that wasn’t his home town.
ftr ~ I never boo Alex (but then, I don’t boo, period).
It’s pretty silly after all this time, but there are those who still hold a grudge regarding the fact that Alex repeatedly said all he wanted to do was play for a winner (granted, he would eventually ) but not before he signed the biggest FA contract in MLB history … to play for the Texas Rangers.
Chad,
Btw espn recap said it’s fake money they drop for Alex. Kind of funny. But mean. But not as mean as the blondie masks.
Oh, there’s always the some genuine bills, as this tweet from Larry Stone attests….
Check that — one floated into the press box, and it’s a real dollar bill with an advertisement sticker on it.
remove *the* (getting late, even on the west coast)