Game 86: Yankees at Mariners
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jul 09, 2010 
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YANKEES (54-31)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Colin Curtis RF
Brett Gardner LF
RHP Phil Hughes (10-2, 3.83)
Hughes vs. Mariners
MARINERS (34-51)
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Chone Figgins 2B
Russell Branyan DH
Jose Lopez 3B
Franklin Gutierrez CF
Casey Kotchman 1B
Michael Saunders LF
Rob Johnson C
Jack Wilson SS
RHP David Pauley (0-0, 0.00)
Pauley vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 10:10 p.m. ET / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Ron Kulpa, 1B Lance Barksdale, 2B Ed Rapuano, 3B Tom Hallion
WEATHER: A few clouds in the sky but nothing to worry about. Temperatures in the 80s with practically no chance of rain.
I’m calling an audible tonight. I usually put the game post 15 minutes before the game and some pregame notes before that, but this has been a pretty weird day. I just haven’t had time to write a regular pregame notes post, so we’ll go with an early game post that has some notes. To be perfectly honest, it was pretty much all Cliff Lee here at Safeco. There aren’t many Yankee notes to begin with.
• Girardi said he heard the Cliff Lee rumors this morning. He made one call to ask what was going on, then went about his day. “I don’t ever think you’re gonna have a guy in your clubhouse until he actually walks through that door,” Girardi said. “There’s a lot of things that take place that, as a manager, I really don’t ever have to deal with. I went through it in ’96 where we thought we were getting players, and we were going to get this guy, and that was my first taste of it. I realize that until a guy’s in that clubhouse, you really can’t think too much about it.”
• Nick Johnson did not see Dr. Ahmad today. He was expected to see him but did not. There’s no word on when that might actually happen.
• Girardi said there’s nothing new on Alfredo Aceves, but Sergio Mitre is scheduled to make another rehab appearance tomorrow.
• The Yankees have not settled on a rotation for after the all-star break.
• Girardi said he’s “pretty close” to naming an all-star game starter.
• The Yankees had Kangaroo Court today. Mariano Rivera was once again the judge. “I’m sure I’m rung up,” Girardi said.
UPDATE, 10:52 p.m.: Well, Mark Teixeira hit that solo home run in the first inning, but David Pauley has shut the Yankees down in the second the third. It’s still 1-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 11:06 p.m.: Pretty nice curveball from Hughes to strike out Russell Branyan and get out of the third inning.
UPDATE, 11:28 p.m.: Apparently Cliff Lee left a little bit of himself in Seattle, and he’s calling it David Pauley.
UPDATE, 11:41 p.m.: Oh wow. They gave Lopez an error on that play. Looked like a base hit to me. He was in on the grass and Jeter hits a ball hard like that. Should be a hit, but what do I know.
UPDATE, 11:50 p.m.: Sac fly from Alex Rodriguez brought in a run, but it’s the two-out, two-run triple that’s done the most damage, giving the Yankees a 4-0 lead here in the sixth.
UPDATE, 11:56 p.m.: The Yankees got one more run on an RBI single by Granderson and Hughes is back on the mound with a 5-0 lead in the sixth. The Yankees have five runs and only four hits.
UPDATE, 12:06 p.m.: Did Brett Gardner misread that ball to left? Kind of looked like it from up here. Either way, it fell for an RBI double to get the Mariners on the board, 5-1.
UPDATE, 12:30 p.m.: Starting in front of a lot of home town fans, Colin Curtis just doubled. His friends must be sitting beneath the press box, because that section went nuts when he drove that ball to the wall.
• The Yankees had Kangaroo Court today. Mariano Rivera was once again the judge. “I’m sure I’m rung up,” Girardi said.
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Awesome. I was wondering if they were going to do that this year.
JeterHughesJoba July 9th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Jacob Ruppert July 9th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
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?As for Texas, I find it absurd that a team that can’t even pay its own debts is allowed to acquire players while MLB(ie the Yankees payment of luxury tax) is footing the bill. It must be very nice for a team to get a player they don’t even have to pay for themselves. ?
Right on Jacob! Texas is just like the Federal government now!
• The Yankees had Kangaroo Court today. Mariano Rivera was once again the judge. “I’m sure I’m rung up,” Girardi said.
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Obviously all of this Cliff Lee nonsense was just a giant ploy to distract the beat writers so the Yankees could hold their Kangaroo Court in peace!
7-2 Tribe over the Drays!
Cleveland is gonna take down TB tonite.
Let’s widen the gap.
Enjoy the game folks.
Per Jack Curry on YES pregame, when Lee found out he was coming to NY, he was thrilled and eager to help the Yanks defend their title – this is what he told CC. I have to believe Lee is a Yankee next year…
“Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (via Twitter) that the Rangers feel they can sign Lee to a long-term deal, provided of course that their ownership dispute has been settled.”
Thats a big assumption I would say. If they don’t win the WS and can’t sign him then traded away their first baseman of the future for nothing.
Hey Chad two DH’s today.
Ugh, if that happens I will be so ticked off……….but that’s part of why the Yankees wanted Lee now.
Hal should have ordered Jack Z. to trade Cliff Lee to the Yankees.
I don’t see how Texas could sign Lee to a long term deal.
There are too many variables in the Yanks favor this offseason to foresee Lee going anywhere else.
But I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Think how excited Cliff will be to help a two time champion defend it’s crown. I have to say, I am not terribly upset with the way it worked out. Yankees can keep the prospects and sign him for draft picks. If they don’t win the World Series this year, I can live with that assuming the Red Sox or Mets don’t win it also.
I never liked Randy Johnson, but I have to admit I find the Geico commercial hysterical.
I would be shocked if Lee doesn’t sign with NYY this offseason. They will blow any other offer away. Plus, why go to TX voluntarily (unless you’re ARod and have Tom Hicks paying 50% more than anybody else).
I’d be very surprised if Lee wanted to stay in Texas long-term, but stranger things have happened.
In the meantime, it would be nice if Phil started to turn things around tonight.
I never liked Randy Johnson, but I have to admit I find the Geico commercial hysterical.
I don’t see Lee signing with Texas long term either. He and the Yankees clearly like each other and the biggest pay day would come from NY….its why I can’t understand why the Rangers would put Smoak in that deal.
“A player going from Seattle to Texas and then to NY worked out once so maybe it will work again”
pat,
hadn’t thought about it that way.
Cody Ransom omg
If I was the Mariners I would have put Miguel Cabrera at 1st. I mean Montero.
Let’s talk baseball tonight and hammer these guys !
The Yankees will either be signing Cliff Lee as a FA in about 4 months to either help them win a 3rd straight WS title (and beyond) or to help them reclaim the throne … either way it will be nice to see him don the pinstripes and we can all enjoy hearing all the Yankee-haters who are snickering right now whine yet again about how terrible the Yankees are for baseball.
The last 24 hrs for me have been somewhat sickening with the LeBron to Miami announcement and that stupid telecast while destroying his home town and shunning the Knicks. I was at work and saw that Buster Olney had said the Yanks/Mariners were at the 1 yard line in the Lee talks. So I was pumped! I thought to myself the Cashman went for the jugular to get Lee and seperate the Yanks while the Sox were using spart parts to fill a lineup card. Bold move IMO!… An hour later, I see the “Rangers acquire Lee” on ESPN.. I almost puked!! Fell apart so quickly.. Hopefully CC brings him here in the offseason!
BTW, Carmelo come to NYC and join the East.
Trivia : Brett Gardner recently hit a grand slam and the following day his an inside the park HR.
Who was the last to do that before BG ?
blake
Mnbtr says Texas can’t afford to negotiate a contract with him, they are broke., he’s above their pay grade.
Indian 8 Tampa 2 top of 9th
blake – unless Texas had soured on Smoak; remember, he’s not been hitting that well this year. BA .209, OPS+ 78.
Wouldn’t that be a scream, if Smoak didn’t pan out for Seattle.
It’s a two-DH kind of day.
All this Cliff Lee talk is getting old already. I don’t think there’s any question that Jack Z. shopped Cashman’s proposal to other teams in order to try and get a better deal. I’m sure that happens often and I’m sure that’s why Cash always puts (short) time limits on how long his proposals are on the table. They used the Yankees to sweeten the pot with other teams. It’s that simple. And it worked. Cashman couldn’t have been too happy about it but I’m not sure if Jack Z’s actions were “unethical”. I’d be curious as to how other GM’s feel about it.
What bothers me more is that Jack Z. tried to bend Cash over a barrel last year too (with Washburn). Maybe it’s time for Cash to let Jack’s calls go directly to voicemail.
I’m also a bit curious about how a team that can’t pay its own bills is making blockbuster trades and taking on salary (albeit a small increase in salary). I know it will never happen, but how awesome would it be if MLB killed this deal??!!
Lee would fit in seamlessly with the Yankees starting rotation. Not just physical ability, but chemistry-wise. I hope Pettitte resigns so we can get to see a rotation of Sabathia, Lee, Pettitte, Burnett, and Hughes. But I also hope Javy can win a championship with us and leave NY on a good note so I’m glad he won’t be traded.
Montero, by most scouts estimation is a future big time power hitter. Where he plays has yet to be decided. Lee will soon be 32 and Montero is 20. Maybe it will be better to have both in the future.
Joe,
could be….Lets hope Montero turns out to be a stud and makes both the M’s and Blue Jays sorry they passed on him.
The best part of the entire drama of the trade for Lee today is how stupid, once again, SJ44 looked. He swore up and down that the Yankees weren’t in on Lee now because they didn’t need him, blah, blah blah. And some of you idiots keep eating what he was dishing out.
Hopefully once and for all you’ll all see what a fraud and complete blowhard he is and let him know once he comes on here again and starts calling each and every one of you trolls, idiots and children who the real baseball idiot is.
I guess if you say the same old BS long enough you’ll start getting people to believe it, but its just so nice to see him be wrong once again. The best part is if the Yankees now go out and get Soria to really solidify just how uninformed this bleephole really is.
Good night all, sweet dreams.
Tex message.
Tex….definitely back!
Don’t know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but this Mariners pitcher started that game for the BoSox where Melky robbed Manny of a HR.
by the way after the cojones Cashman showed today to actually make a big trade I may have to change my name (SJ44 would like that). I may now use Fraud44 in honor of the blowhard being wrong yet again.
I have a sneaky feeling the Yankees arent particularly high on Montero — he’s been dangled in several trade rumors now. I think its inevitable he will be dealt.
Come on Hughes pitch like you’re pitching against the yankees.
congrats Tex hit the first HR in 3D
I have a sneaky feeling the Yankees arent particularly high on Montero — he’s been dangled in several trade rumors now. I think its inevitable he will be dealt.
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He has been dangled for super elite guys, so I doubt it.
Good call RS….Pauley pitched very well in that game….4 years ago ALREADY.
what the hell is going on with extra innings? not moving over to the 10pm games? even with the 7 pm games done?
Striking out Ichiro isn’t real easy to do…good hook.
I have a sneaky feeling the Yankees arent particularly high on Montero — he’s been dangled in several trade rumors now. I think its inevitable he will be dealt.
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Yeah deals for Lee and Halladay. Only elite pitchers.
Phil dropping a nasty curve!
Nasty curve.
My prediction: Yankees sweep the Mariners.
Poor Ichiro, gets to see another elite player leave Seattle.
Who are we going after for DH ?
Relievers ?
That was one nasty hook to K Ichiro
Phil throwing hard tonight.
YEAH, Gardner!
Branyan is a perfect guy to drop that change on ahead in the count.
Or not…
Not great pitch selection or location there IMO.
Phil is still too reliant on the heater.
Anyone still here?
People are still here, but they’re in shock that we only have one run off of Jane Pauly.
This team is doomed, dooooooooooomed I say.
Cashman!
I’m here!
Or maybe they all fell asleep.
It’s been a traumatic day.
I hope they all gave their favorite prospect a good hug before going to bed.
Jack Z looks like Carl Reiner in Oceans 11.
The game does seem rather anticlimactic, no?
“Cashman needs to go July 9th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
The best part of the entire drama of the trade for Lee today is how stupid, once again, SJ44 looked. He swore up and down that the Yankees weren’t in on Lee now because they didn’t need him, blah, blah blah. And some of you idiots keep eating what he was dishing out.
Hopefully once and for all you’ll all see what a fraud and complete blowhard he is and let him know once he comes on here again and starts calling each and every one of you trolls, idiots and children who the real baseball idiot is.
I guess if you say the same old BS long enough you’ll start getting people to believe it, but its just so nice to see him be wrong once again. The best part is if the Yankees now go out and get Soria to really solidify just how uninformed this bleephole really is.
Good night all, sweet dreams.”
Not that he needs my support, but all he did was express an opinion. And for the most part, the people he calls “children” probably are just that, bridge-jumping, panicky, harping, fallow, never-seen-anything-but-think-they-know-everything kids,…..you know, your typical teenager. As for “uninformed”, almost 100% of what he says is fact is almost always the case. What he expresses as an opinion sometimes is right and sometimes is not. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Use that curve more, Phil.
I’m glad that glimpse of Jack Z was only in 2-D.
Why do people think the Yankees aren’t high on Montero because he is always being rumored to be dealt?
Um, that’s what happens when your a top five prospect- other teams want you!
Unless the Yankees think they can Cy Young pitchers for a bag of balls…
And I’d say Montero’s name being popped up in trade talk has more to do with the Yankees wanting to get really good players than it does with the Yankees wanting to trade Montero.
Key word: want.
Sigh…I wonder how some people’s brains work.
Hughes got a good hook going tonight.
The Yankees have succeeded in subliminally implanting the P. C. Richard & Son whistle in my head after every opponent strikeout (even when the Yanks are playing on the road).
I’m here, just got home. I ve heard no sports news all day. What the hell happened?
Tar,
Yanks pretty much had a deal for Lee in place and the M’s backed out at the last minute. The deal included Montero…he went to Texas instead for a deal sending Smoak to Seattle.
The Mariners wussed out.
Jeter with his obligatory grounder to short.
Cliff Lee doing pretty well in his spot start.
Thanks Blake
Wow, did we dodge a bullit or lose a chance?
I wanted Lee, but not for Montero. The only way I would consider that is for an extension to be involved?
Just saw Felton is a Knick.
“They really were high on Smoak.”
This seems true.
Maybe the Yanks would of been better off facing Lee tonight? lol Pauley doing his best Lee impersonation.
Arod is right about Montero….
Tar,
I think you can look at it either way. If Lee winds up in NY this winter then I think they dodged a bullet…If the Rangers somehow are able to sign Lee (which I highly doubt) then it may be a missed chance. Lee would have made them better this season, no question but when you think they may still get him in a few months and keep Montero then it makes you feel better.
I think Felton will do well in NY.
Unless of course the rangers get the better of us in the postseason, which is unlikely but not impossible.
Blake
Best case scenario is Lee pitching to Montero very soon.
Nick
At least Montero’s Yankee career is not up in Smoak.
# Michelle July 9th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Arod is right about Montero….
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What did he say?
Hughes has to start hitting his spots
Rangers do have some very god arms
Hitters have a 176 sOPS+ (relative to league average in that count) on a 1-2 count vs Hughes
Great play by Tex. Thats such a tough throw to make.
“What did he say?”
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Arod said that he was happy that the Yanks didn’t trade Montero. He said he will hit 40 home runs in the major leagues
Figgy just wanted to hang out with the Captain for a minute.
great pitch.
# Michelle July 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
“What did he say?”
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Arod said that he was happy that the Yanks didn’t trade Montero. He said he will hit 40 home runs in the major leagues
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Okay thanks.
Wish we would have faced Lee today.
I think they’ll get their runs. 5th-6th innings will be key.
I wonder how many pitches Pauley is allowed to throw tonight?! Hopefully not that many more.
Yanks look embarrassing today.
“Hitters have a 176 sOPS+ (relative to league average in that count) on a 1-2 count vs Hughes”
As overpowering as he is, Phil is definitely still learning to put hitters away. He gets in a mind set of striking out every batter and seems to overthrow his breaking pitches.
He’ll improve.
Pretty lame effort so far by the offense. Come on guys.
Here come the negative nellys…
It’s clear theYanees need another bat, not just a bench guy, but an impact bat. That David Pauley got through the heart of the order on six pitches is not good.
Yeah they’re only 23 games over .500. They suck.
I think we can all agree the Cliff Lee era was fun while it lasted!!
According to gameday Phil is basically sitting at 95… Nice!
The shot Jorge just took off the mask makes me glad I never became a catcher. Yikes!
rconn23 July 9th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
It’s clear theYanees need another bat, not just a bench guy, but an impact bat. That David Pauley got through the heart of the order on six pitches is not good
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I hope you’re being sarcastic.
As opposed to yesterday? Junkballing pitcher – 58 pitches through four and this after 2o some in the first inning
“I think we can all agree the Cliff Lee era was fun while it lasted!!”
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Don’t worry we will hear about it again during the baseball meetings, just like we did with CC. You wil see breaking news “Cashmoney is in Arkansas with Lee.”
It might just be the Seattle hitting, but Phil’s looking a bit better. Fastball command still a bit wonky. But he’s got the cutter under control.
young master hughes, 66 pitches through 4. looking good.
Jerkface nobody cares about your spreadsheet numbers, did you just make that crap up? I’d rather know how many ribbies hitters have against Hughes in a 1-2 count
You can hug Jesus, but you can’t hug Smoak.
The Yankee lineup hits to the score.
If pitchers do it, why not hitters
Ty Wigginton would be a nice addition. He’s a good righty bench bat that can play all over the infield without embarassing himself. Could play some DH, take some playing time from Pena, maybe a little outfield?
blake July 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I think Felton will do well in NY.
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I think he’s highly overrated.
People don’t seem to want to let go of the fact that he was drafted 5th overall.
He was the weak link on that Bobcat playoff team.
Pull for Yanks, don’t knock em’ !
Somebody finally loved the Smoak Monster.
Pauley is throwing strikes. While the Yankees probably should have done more, they prey mostly on wild pitchers. Hopefully they start to square him up better as his pitch count rises.
Bad move Charlie Kelly.
The Face probably just added your name to the top of The List/
Jerkface nobody cares about your spreadsheet numbers, did you just make that crap up? I’d rather know how many ribbies hitters have against Hughes in a 1-2 count
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Hitters have a .256 .256 .308 .564 line in 1-2 counts. he has had 78 PA’s end on 1-2 and has given up 20 hits.
For a comparison, hitters are .089 .105 .143 .248 on 1-2 vs CC Sabathia in 57 PA, only 5 hits.
Maybe the Yankees should trade for Pauley? lol. He is making it look easy.
“He was the weak link on that Bobcat playoff team.”
there was a lot of weak links on that team…Felton isn’t a superstar but in a system that likes to run (like D’Antoni)….Felton can get up and down the floor as quick as anybody.
I like Wiggington as well but doubt the O’s will deal with the Yanks unless they really make them overpay.
Iss-uh-kwah, you dope.
Pauley was completely unqualified to be in Rocky’s corner. Discuss…..
Lots of grounders to the right side. They are definitely having trouble with that changeup.
I can cut them a bit of slack here, as they’ve been preparing for Cliff Lee, and Pauley’s an entirely different kind of pitcher. Still, third time through the order, they should have better swings. He doesn’t really have any new tricks to break out.
Someone should probably check if Rich in NJ is alive.
He didn’t like trading Arodys.
With what went down today, he may have had a heart attack.
I can cut them a bit of slack here, as they’ve been preparing for Cliff Lee, and Pauley’s an entirely different kind of pitcher. Still, third time through the order, they should have better swings. He doesn’t really have any new tricks to break out.
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89-90 with a change, curve, and slider? Sounds like Cliff Lee from the other side!
whiskey
tango
foxtrot
If I could only listen to one My Bloody Valentine record, I would have to choose Loveless.
Apollo Creed was a better manager than Mickey. Discuss….
The Yankees are pretending to hit like Cliff Lee is on the mound in protest of Cash not completing the deal for Lee.
Anyone else see Mo’s name up instead of Hughes for the pitch count by inning box?
Nick,
Considering they have 2 records, you’re batting .500
Oh, and G. Love, Bret, others it was funny seeing your names in the chat today.
A 1-2 hit to rob johnson
Was “Up In Smoak” Cheech & Chong’s highest cinematic achievement?
I think so.
Our starting pitching has been excellent but our offense is sputtering. We never filled Johnson’s DH slot and really could use a bat. Wiggington would be a nice and versatile addition, Dunn could do well in NY and has a ton of power and a high ops, anyone have any other ideas?
Or maybe Pauley found Lee’s Xanax stash?
Yankee hitters: “We need a hitter not a pitcher you dummy Cash! Look we can’t even hit David Pauley.”
G. Love, I was including the Tremelo EP in my calculations.
Jerkface,
Are you officially monitoring the 1-2 count situation?
I would walk Ichiro here….
pistol,
Our offense is not sputtering. We’ve scored the 2nd most runs in the league and our run differential is the highest in baseball.
They are doing fine.
Wiggington has been terrible since June. Versatility is great, but Wiggington, if acquired, should be a secondary move.
One of the Nats bats, Dunn or Willingham, would be a better optiom, IMO.
Are you officially monitoring the 1-2 count situation?
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Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh, maybe. Hughes is just as bad as the league in hitters counts, he can’t afford to be bad in pitchers counts.
Hughes is real good on 0-2 tho.
Asd July 9th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Oh, and G. Love, Bret, others it was funny seeing your names in the chat today.
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I asked alot of questions that didn’t get answered but I understand they had to be fair. I asked who voted for Swisher more times, Sam or Chad.
I thought G. Love’s question about Theo throwing chairs was funny.
For the last month or so, I’d say the offense has had its sputtering moments.
Nice pitching by Phil!
I think the Jack Johnson joke made off of G. Love’s question was funny as well
Willingham would be a great choice I think but I’m not sure what the price tag would be or if the Nats would even move him.
“Apollo Creed was a better manager than Mickey. Discuss….”
I have no trouble admitting that I cried when Mickey died in Rocky 3.
I like Willingham. But Thames is sort of the same player, albeit a bit older. Thames hasn’t really hit for the power he usually does, though his playing time’s been limited.
I think the Yankees need an infielder that can hit, or at least a player that can play the infield and spell A-Rod, Cano, etc.
Blake,
Felton plays out of control on the fast break. In the half-court, he seldom creates easy shots for his teammates. He often forces action on his teammates rather than creating the action. He’s a stagnant PG IMHO. I’m glad he’s off the team. I like Augustin alot.
Pistol Pete
Our offense will be just fine. ARod and Tex look primed for big second halves and they are the kind of hitters that can carry teams for weeks and months at a time. The needs we have are for a decent hitter off the bench (Wigginton is the right kind of guy but might be too good a player for that role) and some bullpen help.
The main offensive cogs are in place and should be left to play. They’ll hit – they always do.
Hey, a Chief Cordero sighting!
Brett,
eh, I’m biased.
I have a lot of trouble admitting that I once owned a cassette copy of the Rocky IV soundtrack.
Laura,
That’s not the question.
I think Apollo managing an older Rocky to a victory against Clubber Lang was far more against the odds than Mickey managing a young Rocky to a victory over Apollo in their rematch.
Although Micky did manage Rocky in his fight against Thunderlips. Hmmm……
Thanks for the Rocky 3 spoiler.
I was going to watch them all during the All-Star break.
Sigh.
Walking Brett Gardner to lead off an inning is BAD.
Lead off walk to Gardner is always a good thing.
I’d love to see what kind of shots Dunn could hit @NYS.
The offense definitely does get shut down more than it should. We all know when a pitcher has nothing they can score 5 runs. But it’s a game like tonight that’s the problem. The pitcher has good stuff and they need to be able to put a run or 2 together. If it was ace or a really good pitchers ok, but they should do more against the garbage pitchers.
Jeers,
The Rocky IV soundtrack was my high school football teams pre-game music. I know it in my sleep.
I’m stilling holding out for a Soria + DeJesus blockbuster.
Obligatory groundball from Jeter. Lucky!
“I think Apollo managing an older Rocky to a victory against Clubber Lang was far more against the odds than Mickey managing a young Rocky to a victory over Apollo in their rematch.”
come on…Rock was chiseled in Rocky 3 and had much more experience against top competition. He was a nobody in the original and Mick trained him up enough to battle Apollo to a virtual draw….plus Apollo never made him catch a chicken.
Okay, time to pounce! Let’s go Yankees!
Nick,
Nothing’s been spoiled. In Rocky III, Rocky battled his ex Siamese twin Chippy. I won’t spoil the ending.
Just my opinion on the Cliff Lee stuff:
I was really conflicted when the reports came in that Cliff Lee was close to being traded to the Yankees. On the one hand, we’re getting a Cy Young caliber pitcher who is dominating the American League. Just a season ago, he took the mound in Game 1 of the World Series at Yankee Stadium and dominated a terrific Yankees line up. A rotation featuring Cliff Lee, CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, Andy Pettitte and Phil Hughes would have been deadly (there’s four all-star’s in that rotation).
On the other hand, the Yankees would be giving up the jewel of their farm system for three months of Cliff Lee. Jesus Montero has been extremely hyped up as the next big Yankee smasher, someone that’s going to do special things in the Bronx. However, he is just a prospect, albeit a highly regarded prospect.
In the end, am I a little peeved we didn’t get Cliff Lee? Yes, I am. However, it’s not the end of the world. The Yankees are still a dangerous, dangerous team that has been displaying EXCELLENT starting pitching. And you know what? Bash me all you want for this…but I don’t see any team out bidding the Yankees for Lee in the offseason, especially after what occured today. They clearly want him and the Yankees usually get who they want.
It would have been nice to have seen him pitch this season but he’ll be here in 2011 and beyond. And we still get to keep our top prospect AND have a great chance to repeat as World Champions.
Looked like Pauley was cruising but here we are in the 6th, no outs, runners on 1st and 2nd and we’re into their bullpen.
Forget about Wigginton or any players in the east. Those teams won’t trade with the Yanks unless Cash wants to over pay. Most teams as we know don’t want to help out the Yanks unless it’s really worth it to them.
double steal
Come on all star Swish!!!
That’s an All-Star sacrifice bunt.
Bunting is stupid.
I know we are in a tight game but I don’t like Swisher bunting there. He’s red hot and has power. He should swing the bat.
Youkilis would never sacrifice himself. Ha!
Swish is doing teams a favor by bunting. I don’t like him bunting. Especially since the Yanks are soo bad with hitting a sac fly.
Swish has done a good job a few times this year in those situations….I’m usually a big fan of that play but I’d almost rather Swish hit in that situation the way he’s swinging it.
Youkilis would have caught the ball with teeth and eaten it like an onion which he likes to do before every game.
Walking Tex to load the bases in front of ARod has been a bad decision so far this year.
I hate when nick swisher bunts but he is such a winning team player at this point its crazy.
Gardner looks a bit run down, bat a bit slower and reverting back to his slight uppercut swing; continues to take too many good pitches.
Love him, great first half – wish he would change it up and sometimes be more aggressive early in the count.
Defense has been rock solid lately.
AS break coming at a good time for him.
Eh, I’ll take Alex at the plate with the bases loaded…
THis is always my favorite part of the show. come on alex
Walking Tex to load the bases in front of Arod is a bad idea….repeat a bad idea.
There’s a sac fly. A two-out hit would be nice.
I’ll just watch Tango & Cash again, no problem.
Arod did his job….got it off the end a bit or may have been another slam.
Well Arod got the run in but more than 1 run would be nice in this inning.
Go Cano!!!!
A DAGGER from Cano!
The Rocky IV soundtrack was my high school football teams pre-game music. I know it in my sleep.
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Oh yeah. Do you think it helped you guys out any?
It didn’t do much for me in the way of attracting females as it was blaring out of the Kenwood deck in my Datsun.
And Robbie comes up big! Told yah they’d break through!
Robbie comes through again.
Cano is the man.
Geez, I wish this offense would wake up.
Seattle did Yanks a favor by removing Pauley
Crappy offense. If they were REALLY good, they would have scored 6 runs in the first inning and piled on from there.
when will bobby bonds be inducted to the hall???????????????????????????????????
Turn off your sets folks. This one’s over.
2 out RBI are lovely.
Curtis
Chad Cordero has *nothing*. He’s absolutely toast.
Was that a Datsun 510? That was my first car.
Crappy Seattle bullpen doing a Joba imitation – saving Yanks the embarrassment of getting 2 hit by some guy named Pauley
Look who is warming up in the bullpen Luke French. You know the nobody that the Mariners got from the Tigers for Washburn. The same trade that they asked the Yanks for A.Jax.
The Yanks have broken the game open. We can all breathe a little easier
Bad, bad cutter.
When they throw it where Branyan is swinging it gets hit hard.
Hughes got lucky on that pitch
The Rocky IV soundtrack did pump up my football team. Especially John Cafferty’s classic Hearts On Fire.
Hughes getting tattooed this inning
C’mon, Phil!
Phil, don’t give it all back at once!
Location issues for YMH.
“The Rocky IV soundtrack did pump up my football team. Especially John Cafferty’s classic Hearts On Fire.”
I was partial to “no easy way out”
Better swings off Hughes this inning.
Hold onto this one, and the Yanks are guaranteed of being in 1st place @the all-star break.
Just one more Phil.
Hughes is really missing in this inning. That damn cutter…
Ledger_Yankees
Hughes is getting 8.43 runs of support per nine innings pitched this season. #yankeesoffenseistheproblem
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Datsun 310…GX of course. Whatever that meant.
Remember back in the day the 280ZX was kind of hot.
I had no idea what a 310 looked like after seeing an ad for it in the classified but I figured it just had to be 30 units hotter than the 280.
I had a white 280ZX and loved it.. Seemed to work forever until one day it just up and died.
Gardner is quite a distraction to the pitcher.
Probably irrelevant info at this point.. but the Yankees are looking for more hits and more pop from their bench…
I know the reasons the Yankees let Shelley Duncan go, and I don’t dispute them.
… But, I do want some of commenters on this blog to think twice when they say “the Yankees have a professional staff to do their player evaluations and I trust that they will make the best recommendations when evaluating players.”
Duncan’s results this year suggest that maybe he could have been some help to us, if we had been a little more patient. He has 5 HRs in 71 ABs. His OPS is .863. He still strikes out too much. And yes, we are dealing with small sample size. (But, the Yankees’ player evaluators were also dealing with small sample size when they decided he’d never make it.)
Duncan’s performance so far this year at Cleveland:
AB H BB SO HR AVG OBP SLG OPS
71 19 7 29 5 .268 .342 .521 .863
Isn’t this game fun?!! Trying to figure out what’s the best thing to do!
Captain 0-4 not one ball out of the infield
Duncan OPS’d under .600 in 2008 and 2009 and plays bad defense and is 30 years old.
with one out Gardner should go
And he is showing a reverse platoon split this year, something like that can’t be predicted because it goes against all logic for a hitter like Duncan
Joba with the nice side part lol
What’s most encouraging about this outing is the ’0′ in the walk column. And the HR column.
Throw a breaking ball once in a while!
I wonder if that missed start helped Hughes…Maybe he was gassed a little bit.
Next stop:
All-Star GameIn-N-Out Burger!Nice outing for the youngster. Alex is so funny on those popups. Tough play, having to run in so far.
LOL @ Arod.
Sometimes it seems like too much foul territory does not suit him.
Nice job by the youngster tonight. It will be fun seeing him pitch in the all star game, hopefully he gets to pitch.
Phil doesn’t want to be beat on his lesser pitches. That’s why he throws so many fastballs & cutters.
Hughes has been pretty lights out on the road
His bad outings have all virtually all been at home (Sox, Stros, Jays, Ms)
Looked like it got more dirt than toe. Otherwise, he’d be swearing like a mother.
Man Grandy has been hitting the ball hard. 2nd half hes gonna break out.
You guys are nuts, come home with me .
Jerkface– Some of what you say is true… And I am certainly not recommending him for a starting position in the OF. I am just suggesting that maybe he could have been of some value from the bench and perhaps as PH. (His OPS in 2008 & 2009 were .542 and .400, but that was only 65 and 15 PAs. But remember, his OPS is 2007 was .883 when he had 83 PAs. All of these stats suffer from small sample size.) Note that his fielding percent was .979, which is an OK stat (of course it says nothing of his range).
Anyway… I don’t think his age is really an issue as a bench player.
I’m really looking forward to Granderson hitting 33 homers after the ASG so that he can reach the 40hrs everyone predicted he would hit.
Huuuuuuuuuuughes listened to me.
SportsGeek,
His 08 and 09 were spent as a bench player / pinch hitter. What from there suggests he would be useful in that role?
He hit .174 .174 .304 .478 as a PH, and OPS’d .550 as a Sub. He did his best work starting.
I thought Shelley did his best work brawling.
M, but Phil won’t live up to his enormous potential until he uses more of his repertoire. The curve shouldn’t be a lesser pitch for him…………and the change may yet be a decent pitch if he would use it. I posted an article from the Wall Street Journal which talked about his lack of that pitch. He and Po both agreed they need to use it more. The more pitches he has, the better it will be for him.
Nice to see Phil with a good effort going into the break; that will do wonders for his confidence.
is cc allowed to pitch on friday after the break? he’s pitching sunday so his next start will be friday.
# Jerk OFF face July 10th, 2010 at 12:33 am
SportsGeek,
His 08 and 09 were spent as a bench player / pinch hitter. What from there suggests he would be useful in that role?
He hit .174 .174 .304 .478 as a PH, and OPS’d .550 as a Sub. He did his best work starting.
Come to my house big guy
You know, I realize Phil gets a great deal of run support, but that’s effected him in maybe just a few games. There have been several games, particularly early in the season, when the Yanks scored late to break open a close game. Sure he’s gotten lucky in a few games, but what pitcher doesn’t? In a way it’s a nice thing that he gets the support because it allows him to feel as if he doesn’t have to be perfect.
Branyan is going to get benched pretty fast once Smoak arrives. He is a strikeout machine
Betsy,
Of course he won’t. But he’s relatively inexperienced. Baby steps. He needs to gain confidence in all his pitches. That could take time.
He had a bad month in June, so he’s probably trying to gain his footing again, so to speak.
(and I mostly was addressing the person who implored him to throw breaking stuff in that long at bat) As long as he’s locating the fastball, he’s going to rely on it. No harm, no foul. And he’ll definitely learn that he can go deeper into games with a more varied pitch selection.
Nice job by D-Rob of recovering from that ‘squeez me single by Ichiro.
A commercial for RAB??!???!?!?
I dozed off at 1-0 but I’ll be wide awake for the postgame.
Oh, and to the person today who said the Yankees are going to be looking for a CF. Hello? Brett Gardner can’t do the job?
M, that’s why I thought it was imperative that Phil stay in the rotation had we gotten Lee…….this is really the only way he’s going to learn. I will say that it appears Phil has unshakeable confidence in his FB; I would rather that be the case than that he waver. He can always learn to mix it up; it’s not so easy to trust yourself.
LOL I have been so wrong on Gardner………
Nick in SF,
I saw that on RAB the other day. They were rather pleased, as they should be.
Tex message.
Where were all the foos bashing Tex again?
Tex also hit 2 HR’s at Safeco late last season.
i’m guessing there will be 70 games left when Hughes starts after the break. that’s 14 starts. and with 6 ip per start it’ll take him to 185. So maybe he’ll make 12 starts. And keep those extra innings for the postseason.
This scrub Luke French was the guy who the Ms got from Detroit for Washburn
And they asked us for A-Jax lol
I think they skip at least one more of Phil’s starts. But last year they said the the postseason wouldn’t count toward Joba’s innings limit. I can’t see the team feeling any differently about YMH.
This Purist Bleeds Pinstripes almost pulled its Yankeeography sponsorship over the Montero trade.
Tex quietly (or not so quietly) up to .243.
Alex has the same batting average as Jeter. Such a biter.
that’s if Hughes is in the bullpen in the postseason
Right – post-season innings don’t count because the Yankees calculate their innings limits based on a 6 month season. October is the 7th month so you allow for more innings based on the extra time.
Hughes will be in the bullpen in any hypothetical posteason situation.
Like I said in my first post on this subject.. I am not saying the Yankees should have done anything different with Duncan… I was mostly pointing out how hard it is to make a definitive evaluation of someone.. even for the professionals who get paid to do it.
I do point out again that his 2008 and 2009 results were with few at bats.
emotional content of the game– I can’t even imagine how hard it must be for a role player to pinch hit when he’s done nothing for 3 or 4 days or even a week. You have to be ready, and you have to perform. And all of that is magnified when you are playing for the Yankees– sometimes it must seem like every at bat is a test of whether you will stay or go, and after a few SO’s or ground outs, the next AB is even more critical.
Let’s just wish Duncan continued success in CLE (as long as he doesn’t get in the way of our run to the WS).
please let Hughes win his 11th game.
please let Hughes win his 11th game.
Chan Ho Park, my favorite closer!!!
Someone mentioned that Phil has pitched better on the road than at home…….that’s very true. YS is conducive to FB and Phil is a FB pitcher, but I think if he’s pitching well the stadium won’t be a problem.
M, you think? I would imagine it depends on how he and/or Javy are pitching.
Hey all,
Just be honest with me – I have this sense that Chan Ho Park is going to come up big for us in October. I know he’s looked absolutely terrible all year – and I really can’t put my finger on why, it’s something about his stuff I guess, but I just have had this feeling all year long that he can be 2010′s Damaso Marte (from the other side of the mound of course)..
what if hughes is the 3rd best starter at the time of the postseason?
Betsy,
Halladay and Lee had problems with the longball at NYS, too. Maybe a connection?
And the other Yankee starters had their issues in 2009. Andy hated NYS because of the dimensions. Must’ve been cursing, “they said it was the same”
# UnKnown July 10th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Branyan is going to get benched pretty fast once Smoak arrives. He is a strikeout machine
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Smoak is hitting .209. Branyan is hitting .261. Smoak hits lefties to the tune of .139. Branyan hits them at around .205 and hits righties at about .281. Yeah, sure. Branyan should be benched because Smoak has proven that he is a far superior hitter.
Mariners got fleeced in that trade. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. No wonder they are at the bottom of their division.
RAB gunning for LoHud’s throne?
A quick tale of the tape has them beating us in overall comments tonight but many of those consist of just a few words with an expletive thrown in for good measure.
An absolutely none concerning old Datsun’s as far as I can tell.
SportsGeek,
This is not a thread about Shelley Duncan.
Please redirect your comments back to 2009.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy
“I don’t think we have to do much recruiting,” said Sabathia, who played with Lee in Cleveland. “He knows what it’s like over here. I’ve talked to him a bunch about being in the clubhouse and being part of the team. Hopefully it works out.”
The Yankees were working toward a trade Friday that could have landed the left-hander from Seattle in exchange for catcher Jesus Montero, infielder David Adams and another prospect, but Lee was dealt instead to the Rangers in a six-player swap.
It may wind up being just a two-plus-month rental for Texas. Lee seems intent on gauging the free-agent market, especially after playing with four teams in the last two years, and the Yankees should be encouraged that Lee seemed receptive to joining New York.
“I know he was very excited about the possibility of coming here,” Sabathia said. “When I talked to him this morning, I thought he was definitely coming. It just didn’t work out. We’ll have to see what happens.”
*****assuming we get there*****
Betsy,
You didn’t ask me, but we have to get there first before we worry about who is pitching, and of course it matters how Jay and Phil are pitching.
Hughes’ ERA is over 2 runs higher at home than on the road (2.56 on road, 4.72 at home).
And that road ERA will get even lower after his good outing today.
Okay, maybe if Javy’s pitching like he was in April. Which I doubt!
The thing is, that Phil is the lone starter that has extensive (all of 5-6 months) as a reliever.
And on top of that, his arm might be cooked by then!
*javy
M, but I think YS is pretty fair. Phil’s location hasn’t been that great recently and that’s always going to lead to more HRs…… I wouldn’t mind seeing him incorporate a 2-seamer, particularly for days when his regular FB isn’t that great.
RAB has had a partnership with the YES Network for a while. It’s at the top of their page. They didn’t get to participate in making the commercial though. All YES.
SAS – I know that……I agree.
Once Rebecca defected, things looked kind of grim.
Now I wonder if all the impostering wasn’t an RAB dirty trick campaign to drive down LoHud’s numbers.
Pathetic.
That 3 run shot off the foul pole pis-sed me off. If the squirrel were there, it would’ve gone foul.
Come on already Park…………
# m July 10th, 2010 at 12:58 am
Okay, maybe if Javy’s pitching like he was in April. Which I doubt!
The thing is, that Phil is the lone starter that has extensive (all of 5-6 months) as a reliever.
And on top of that, his arm might be cooked by then!
You want to “cook,” come to my house “M”
A Baltimore CHOP.
That was so cold what Seattle did
Marchand was on 1050 earlier tonight and said that CC’s wife and Lee’s wife were discussing places to live already and they started packing and he said how excited the guys in the clubhouse were and he was already getting texts from guys and making living arrangements.
It’s a wonder that the YES Network allows RAB commenters to use all kinds of foul language.
Hughes will start in the postseason.
We always talk about learning experience and development for Hughes.
But the real season for the Yankees is under the bright lights in October. That will be the ultimate learning experience/challenge for YMH to finish his first full season as a starter.
Lee deserved to go to a contender – I’m sure he’ll be great in Texas. I almost can’t wait for the off-season so we can sign the guy already, lol.
Was Kay talking about a different underbelly???
God Ken Singleton is the best
Oh I totally agree Smoak has sucked, but that is why they got him was to play him right. So they might have to give Smoak his ab’s and live with a low average. I too think that the M’s made a bad trade.
Curry was talking about how Vazquez had a million reporters at his locker asking him how he feels about being traded to make room for Lee
CC was already talking with Lee about acclimating himself to NY
It is unfortunate what happened… just awkward for everyone involved.
Come on Park you can do it….
Hughes is a right handed fly ball pitcher, in YS thats a minus.
Poor Javy – that’s ridiculous.
God does Park suck or what
Now Girardi has to warm up a sore Mariano again
This pen is sooo unreliable.
This is driving me nuts!
Please don’t tell me Mo is going to have to warm up
This dude can’t even put away Jack Wilson
Yep…….but he’ll have to get used to it. He pitched fine there earlier…..
Boy, Park is just not very good…….
diarrhea!
Finally!!!!
They had to unnecessarily warm MO up… a hurting MO too.
Forget Lee – get some guys in the pen who can get outs.
Good game everyone, besides the last half of the 9th
finally
In-N-Out shake, you will be mine tonight.
3 yankees with 11 wins
Jersey Jim July 10th, 2010 at 1:05 am
God does Park suck or what
Come to my house and we’ll see who sucks.
Woohoooo!! 3 Yankees pitchers with 11 wins before the All Star break. When was the last time that happened? … on any team?
Jack Curry said that the Mariners liked the fact that Smoak is closer to the major leagues than Montero. He said Montero is still just 20 years old. That is really stupid. You would think they would pick the better prospect. It’s not like they are ready to win this year or maybe not even next year. But I am very happy keeping Montero, for now.
I feel sorry for Lee having to go play in TX during the summer.
“When was the last time that happened? … on any team?”
1999 Astros
As I’ve said before, RAB is where you go when your game is off in here. The AAA blog if you will.
And it’s like Bizarro World.
Pat M ? No, but there’s a Pat D.
No Nick in SF but there is a SF Yanks.
We have Joba Farnsworth they have a Cy Farnsworth.
Also, there’s absolutely no regard for the 5% rule. More of a 15% minimum.
Give me LoHud or give me death!
Cashmoney please don’t get anymore NL pitchers. They stink in the AL. Lee was a luxury but they really need a bullpen arm, the bullpen is not strong enough the way it is now.
Also, there’s absolutely no regard for the 5% rule. More of a 15% minimum.
Well today was a strange day to be a Yankee fan. Like most of us, the first I heard of the potential Lee trade was this morning. I was able to follow the story sporadically throughout the day. By the time I left work, Texas was about to officially acquire him.
This morning everyone was saying it was a done deal to the Yankees. Personally I wasn’t in favor of it. In the end he winds up in Texas. Could have been a lot worse IMO.
But it goes to show what a hot story will do. Well over 2000 comments yesterday and a blog fueled by a potential huge trade. Lohud must be very happy.
If I learned anything today it was that Seattle is almost impossible to deal with (Washburn and now Lee) and the fact that the Mariner’s GM really strung Cash along and backed out of a supposed “done deal”. He clearly shopped it, no matter what he says. I’d be very surprised if you saw any major trades in the future between these 2 teams, at least not while Cashman is still GM. I’m sure he’s not too happy.
Regarding the ALMOST M’s/Yankees deal…I can see both sides and understand both arguments. But to me, this is a guy you can get in the offseason. He wants to play here. Cash will get it done. They don’t NEED him this year. It wasn’t necessary to acquire him.
Last year Lee dominated the Yankees in the World Series and we STILL won. This year our rotation is BETTER than last year. For me personally there comes a point when its not fun to watch the games. When you are expected to win and if you lose you were chokers. When your roster is stacked with so many all stars its almost embarassing. A trade for Cliff Lee would have put me in that place.
Now next year is a completely different story. Vasquez ansd Pettitte could both be gone Even if Pettitte comes back you get Lee to replace Vasquez, and your rotation is noticably better. I have no problem with that.
But doing it now and either putting Hughes in the pen or shipping out Vasquez, IMO that’s not a great move. And I haven’t even talked about the players we were sending them, including our best hitting prospect since Robinson Cano.
In the end I’m happy it didn’t get done. If Lee dominates us for the Rangers in the playoffs maybe I’ll change my mind, but like I said, he dominated us last year and we still won. Or we could knock him around. Or the Rangers could miss the playoffs. Either way, there’s a small chance this trade hurts our team, and that’s really all that matters.