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buster is on.
Yankees/Seattle at the 1 yard line with the trade.
SI_JonHeyman #yanks have offered montero, adams and 3rd prospect. now its up to seattle. i do think theyll agree, eventually. #Lee
I cannot participate
your link is busted. pls fix it.
How do they answer us?
Francesa crying about “over kill”
If you let Tampa get him then they have a much better rotation than us. We will likely trade Javy after we get Lee anyway.
nevermind. (sorry)
per Buster
Yankees/Seattle at the 1 yard line with the trade.
yankees didn’t ask for negotiation window. Presumably because Jeter, Girardi, Rivera don’t have contracts yet.
Montero, Adams, McCallister are the prospects
Yankees may not have liked the prospect of facing a Tampa Bay post-season rotation of David Price, Cliff Lee, Jeff Neimann, etc
if Yankees trade Javy now, they at least get something before he walks at end of year
Detroit may be putting Rick Porcello on the block, possibly to ‘Zona for Haren. This comes from Fox sports, so take it for what it’s worth.
That’s a lot to give up…….whew.
LOL Glad I’m missing Francesca – he’s a miserable person. Overkill? Give me a break. The Yankees should only concern themselves with their own interests – they are in it to win it. Other teams will have to deal with it….That said, Lee doesn’t guarantee anything. MIke would probably like to see the Yankees fail to prove his point.
Where are the people on here that have a one-way line to Brian Cashman’s brain: “He won’t pay twice for a player he can have in free agency”
Brian Cashman is smart enough to realize he may never get the opportunity to pay once for him if Lee gets traded elsewhere and signs an extension as part of the trade.
Wow, this live chat is awesome! I am lucky to be able to participate.
Nick in SF July 9th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Wow, this live chat is awesome! I am lucky to be able to participate.
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HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I LOVE THIS TRADE, and I really hope it happens!
Better get King Felix before he faces us tomorrow! haahahah. Wow, Cashman and company. You guys sure are committed to winning.
if Cashman can convince Omar, A.J. stands for Angel Julio, then maybe Burnett can be moved to the Mets
NYPost_Kernan America stop whining about #Yankees, they have the prospects to get the deal done
YankeesWFAN This brings to mind the time Jose Cardenal was traded from Phillies dugout to Mets dugout between games of a doubleheader. True story.
It is overkill for THIS year but when you think about perhaps losing Pettitte and Vazquez after the year and not guaranteeing that they sign Lee in the off-season, it’s a good deal. Also don’t think they want him to end up in Tampa.
i miss damon every time we get to the 2 spot!!
overkill?
he’s looking for conversation.
Funny- I come back and my imposter comes out of hiding (I didn’t say 2:47)
Thanks to all those who welcomed me back (except for the imposter). I really appreciate the warm welcome.
I am leaving now to go to the beach. I probably won’t come back this weekend.
KIng Felix vs Lee tmw.
David Lee – Cliff has repeatedly mentioned he won’t sign an extension mid-season.
sunny615 – I didn’t know that. However, a lot of people say a lot of things that are not 100 percent true. Never know.
I can’t access the live chat???????
The drama in the timing of this deal would be off the charts if Lee gets to pitch the top and bottom of the 1st inning. JK
SJ,
its a terrible deal. Why are the Yankees always asked to pay a higher price then anybody else. Phillies gave up nothing for Lee. Sea gave up nothing for Lee. Mets gave up nothing for Santana. Prob the best anyone gave up for someone was the Brewers with Laporta and he isn’t even as good as Montero
It’s weird that the Yankees would give up a Top 10 prospect when it seems like no one else would.
Some M’s fans’ discussion/speculation on the topic, if anyone’s interested…
http://www.marinercentral.com/.....topic=4806
True David – but if they don’t do that for Jeter, I doubt they do it for Lee.
The whole purpose to hold on to Montero is to have a nice player in the future that would help you win the World Series. Well wouldn’t getting Lee put as close of a lock on #28 as you can get. So lets win #28 now and worry about what we are going to do without Montero later. GO GET LEE!!
Why aren’t they answering my questions?
sunny615 – Yes. But Lee might be willing to change his mind and sign an extension if traded to another team. That would leave Cashman with no opportunity to attain Lee in FA.
If the Yankees are willing to part with Montero, that might say a lot about what their organization thinks of him overall. He may never be anything more than a DH. With Rodriguez being a DH down the road, and Jorge being a part-time DH next year, maybe they think it’s right to get rid of him.
i think an extension for a mid-season trade acquisition is a huge difference from extension for players that’ve been here for a while. but maybe that’s just me…
That’s fake SJ44 FYI
Lee trade “imminent”
http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....nt=Twitter
curiouser and curiouser…
M’s up and coming pitching prospect, Michael Pineda, was due to take the mound in AAA Tacoma tonight – he is no longer listed as the starting pitcher….
GB – Hi. Interesting that Detroit may be putting Porcello on the market, especially for Haren. Talk about ironies. Here’s a team that has a young pitcher, cost-controlled, who last year was the hot thing in baseball, how to develop young pitchers, etc. This year, he’s so inconsistent they have to send him back down to the minors. Now, they’re looking to trade him, possibly for a veteran arm that’s more proven.
Sounds like somewhat analogous to the discussions going on here today.
# David Lee July 9th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
sunny615 – Yes. But Lee might be willing to change his mind and sign an extension if traded to another team. That would leave Cashman with no opportunity to attain Lee in FA.
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But Lee might be willing to change his mind and not sign an extension with the Yankees after turning FA.
Then the Yanks have egg on their faces. This is just as distinct a possibility as the one you just mentioned.
Yay, my question was posted. LOL
[Comment From Alex]
Do you think the Lee trade would flood the media and cause controversy as much as the LeBron trade?
Hey, whatever happened to Rebecca? Is she OK? Des she still post here?
I was just listening to XM about this deal from the Seattle perspective.
First off, Montero can play for them next season probably for sure, or they are at least planning on that. Second, Montero does not have to be a catcher for them in order for him to have value. They can play him at 1B or they can DH him. For the Yankees, Montero’s biggest value is as a catcher only.
Montero is definitely THE chip in the deal for them. Not sure why they need the other players; well, whey do they need 2 more, but whatever.
I think it’s exciting that another teams wants Montero so much.
I know that’s a weird way to look at it.
IF the deal is not done by 6pm EST, it will never happen. they won’t wait any time near game time to make the deal
CompassRosy -
I just heard that piece of info on XM, too!
But they weren’t sure who’d pitch tonight against the Yankees if the trade is completed.
Some Mariners fans are saying that “Yanks fans would rather have Austin than Montero” so maybe the Yanks have done a good spin job on Montero like they “did with Dioner Navarro”
funny stuff
they also threw out Jose Ramirez as the possible 3rd player.
I don’t think so.
“Chad/Sam – who do you deem as currently “untradeable” in the minors?”
Jesus Montero
ed_price #Mariners AAA team no longer listing Michael Pineda as starter for tonight. Could mean he’s going up to replace Lee for tonight’s start.
The Yankees, Red Sox and Rays have told the Phillies that they would have interest in Jayson Werth if he is available, according to George A. King III of the New York Post. We heard yesterday that the Phillies, who would like to add a proven starter, are discussing possible Werth trades with ‘a lot of teams.’
awful awful deal
Patrick July 9th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
“Chad/Sam – who do you deem as currently “untradeable” in the minors?”
Jesus Montero
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maybe the colts can trade for drew brees but why would they do that their strength is QB already
Patrick, are you getting your last hugs in now?
# sunny615 July 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
# vblade July 9th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
They beat his team in his start, in the postseason, and they can do so again. So clearly he ain?t as invincible as everyone likes to make out.
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No they didn?t. The Yanks lost to his team on his starts twice last season in the World Series.
Game 1 ? Lee (W) CC (L) Phillies beat the Yankees 6-1
Game 5 ? Lee (W) AJ (L) Phillies beat the Yankees 8-6
In even bigger news!!!
“Chad A. Tracy signed a minor league deal with the Yankees on Friday. He went 11 for 44 with the Cubs this season prior to his release on Sunday.”
BD – well, if the Phils want a proven starter, that eliminates Boston – they need all the starting pitching they can get for themselves. Tampa – maybe. But, Vazquez might be the best starting pitcher to be made available. Assuming the Lee deal goes down, of course.
This trade sucks. I hope it doesn’t happen. It’s not fun when the team is full of all-stars. Let’s be real, Yankees are the best team in the game. If Lee goes to the Twins or Rays or someone else so what, they can beat them anyway. And if they don’t its not a talent thing, its a lack of execution thing which happens. This reeks of excess and to top it off could flip Vazquez for a bat or a bullpen arm. Wow.
Joe,
The Phillies might be starting out a little greedy thinking they can get a solid starter who they’ll have for at least a couple seasons.
We’ll see how much demand there is for Werth in a few weeks if he’s still slumping (though a type A has inherent value)
I have been predicting Werth to sign a deal with the Red Sox this offseason for a while now. We’ll see.
“Patrick, are you getting your last hugs in now?”
There’s no prospects left to hug
” This has been more gut wrenching than signing Outlaw to a $35M contract.”
I’ve actually softened on that issue. He could end up being a good starting SF and 7 mil per year is the going rate for that kind of player.
I prefer the Yanks not get Werth. No where for him to play.
# Patrick July 9th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
” This has been more gut wrenching than signing Outlaw to a $35M contract.”
I’ve actually softened on that issue. He could end up being a good starting SF and 7 mil per year is the going rate for that kind of player.
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Maybe. But it’s a lot of money tied up to a guy who hasn’t proven a damn thing. We’ll see.
# sunny615 July 9th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
# sunny615 July 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
# vblade July 9th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
They beat his team in his start, in the postseason, and they can do so again. So clearly he ain?t as invincible as everyone likes to make out.
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No they didn?t. The Yanks lost to his team on his starts twice last season in the World Series.
Game 1 ? Lee (W) CC (L) Phillies beat the Yankees 6-1
Game 5 ? Lee (W) AJ (L) Phillies beat the Yankees 8-6
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My mistake. They did score some off Lee though, so I guess that’s a plus.
Why do people keep saying there is no where for a RH hitting OF (Willingham, Werth, etc.) to play?
The Yankees don’t have a full time DH, Granderson has serious problems with LHP, and Gardner struggles a bit vs LHP as well.
Montero is too much to trade for a half season rental of Cliff Lee, when we don’t really need him. And an “exlusive negotiation window after the season” and draft picks don’t add much.
And I have doubts about the Rays being willing to trade top prospect(s) for a half season rental when they are going to need those prospects in coming years to be competitive with their payroll.
This is just a poor/unnecessary deal.
BD (Boston Dave) July 9th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
The Yankees, Red Sox and Rays have told the Phillies that they would have interest in Jayson Werth if he is available, according to George A. King III of the New York Post. We heard yesterday that the Phillies, who would like to add a proven starter, are discussing possible Werth trades with ‘a lot of teams.’
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Dave -
Boston has no proven starter they’re in a position to give up other than Lester. All others are either hurt or unreliable.
Simply said, Boston is in no postion to deal except for Theo Epstein’s usual scrap heap types.
Patrick,
There’s always prospects to hug. I’m sure Cito Culver could use a nice long squeeze.
Rick,
I agree. I don’t think Boston gets Werth this season unless the Phillies change their demands.
That said, I’ve predicted and still feel the Sox will make a major push to sign him in 2011 and beyond.
Slade says “Hug me.”
That’s a plus and the point. It’s better to have him now and on your team than against you on a team that can already have the potential to beat you. I believe that while the cost is truly high, it’s the price of a title for 2010 and beyond. He’ll win the title with the Yanks, see what it’s like to play with this team and want to win a bunch more titles. Cash will give him the money and the Yanks will be the favorites to win again.
IMO, without Lee, the Yankees chances of a repeat are MUCH lower. Playoffs is not regular season. In the ALDS, they have to win a short series. In the ALCS and WS, they have to face an ace twice – possibly 3 times as the Yankees did last year. Lee improves the Yankees’ chances that much more in 2010. And with 2010 being the year of the pitcher (so far) and the inconsistencies of this offense, pitching wins games and there’s no better one than Lee.
Patrick must have Slade and Cito stuff toys in his room! I kid, lol.
I’m in mourning
. No John Sterling Jesus HR calls 
There’s always prospects to hug. I’m sure Cito Culver could use a nice long squeeze.
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Don’t even get me started on Culver.
I’ve heard it takes 2 fans to hug Brackman at once!
We can all hug Romine and Sanchez. Until the Yankees trade them.
Heathcott could use a snuggle I hear.
Well, only a few hours left.
Patrick, you may have had to retire your Montero and Action Jackson plushies, but there’s still the Brackman “Really Pitches! Press Button!” Action figure, and the Culver “Heir to Jeter” stuff toy with #2 on the back. The cabinet ain’t empty yet!
I’m in mourning . No John Sterling Jesus HR calls
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You were willing to sit around for 2-3 years to hear one? They weren’t coming anytime soon.
wow cliff lee deal is off
Joelsherman1 #Mariners backing off #Yankees offer, Post has learned. Does not look like #Yankees are in it.
# Erin July 9th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Joelsherman1 #Mariners backing off #Yankees offer, Post has learned. Does not look like #Yankees are in it.
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Patrick, resume hugging!
vblade,
i was actually all for the Jackson trade. I still think it was a pretty good move.
Back in the day – 1963 – the Yankees were the best team in baseball. Much better team than the LA Dodgers of that era. Yet, the Yanks lost the WS that year, getting swept 4-straight. They were shut down completely by the Dodgers starting pitching – Koufax, Drysdale, and Podres.
Who was it that said – “He who forgets the past is condemned to repeat it”?
I don’t want the Yankees to get blown out of a short series by inferior pitching. I DO want them to do it to other teams.
I want to start GTLU, but it doesn’t seem to be the pressing pastime of this day. Or do you guys want a diversion until they break the news?
Patrick, resume hugging!
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So happy right now
# sunny615 July 9th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
That’s a plus and the point. It’s better to have him now and on your team than against you on a team that can already have the potential to beat you. I believe that while the cost is truly high, it’s the price of a title for 2010 and beyond. He’ll win the title with the Yanks, see what it’s like to play with this team and want to win a bunch more titles. Cash will give him the money and the Yanks will be the favorites to win again.
IMO, without Lee, the Yankees chances of a repeat are MUCH lower. Playoffs is not regular season. In the ALDS, they have to win a short series. In the ALCS and WS, they have to face an ace twice – possibly 3 times as the Yankees did last year. Lee improves the Yankees’ chances that much more in 2010. And with 2010 being the year of the pitcher (so far) and the inconsistencies of this offense, pitching wins games and there’s no better one than Lee.
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The Yanks can win the WS without Lee. They did it last year.
The Phillies were pretty formidable and still couldn’t beat the Yanks with Lee.
Does it help them team in the short term? Sure. But making the Santana would have made the Yanks better in the short term. But we all know now that this team was better off long term because they didn’t make the Santana trade, which directly led to them later signing Sabathia and keeping Hughes.
I’ll hug Melky Mesa until they tear my “got melky?” shirt away from me.
I think the deal is off anyway. At least according to NY Post people.
The Mariners are funny
sweet
GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH GO TO HELL SEATTLE.
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 9th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I want to start GTLU, but it doesn?t seem to be the pressing pastime of this day. Or do you guys want a diversion until they break the news?
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Doreen-I think it’s safe to start it since it looks like the trade is off.
If the Yankees have a better offer for Lee, I can’t wait to see it.
Joelsherman1 #Mariners have turned in a different direction and #Yankees do not believe they are in it now (more to come)
Question:
Which popular song could Cliff Lee “truthfully” sing later today?
# Patrick July 9th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Patrick, resume hugging!
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So happy right now
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Just breathed a huge sigh of relief. Sign him in the offseason once Seattle lets him walk.
This reminds me of when the Twins got greedy with Santana and Cashman pulled out of talks.
EDIT If the Mariners….
waaahh July 9th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
I’m in mourning . No John Sterling Jesus HR calls
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You were willing to sit around for 2-3 years to hear one? They weren’t coming anytime soon.
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What are you talking about, he might of been a September call up this year.
David Adams ankle.
The Yankees have issues vs. lefties this year & they haven’t hit Price since spring training in 2008. If Lee ended up on the Rays, the Yankees would be dead facing Price & Lee 4 times in a series.
I just read a tweet from Brian Hoch:
RT @Joelsherman1: #Mariners backing off #Yankees offer, Post has learned. Does not look like #Yankees are in it.
waaahh July 9th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH GO TO HELL SEATTLE.
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It’s the pesto of cities.
Joe from Long Island July 9th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
GB – Hi. Interesting that Detroit may be putting Porcello on the market, especially for Haren. Talk about ironies. Here’s a team that has a young pitcher, cost-controlled, who last year was the hot thing in baseball, how to develop young pitchers, etc. This year, he’s so inconsistent they have to send him back down to the minors. Now, they’re looking to trade him, possibly for a veteran arm that’s more proven.
Sounds like somewhat analogous to the discussions going on here today.
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Afternoon, Joe. Hope all is well in your corner of the world. That talk of trading Porcello is somewhat insane. Who else is left to toss Youkilis around like a ragdoll?
Haren said that when he was being discussed earlier this year that St. Louis has appeal. Not only that, but, he loves batting and even in Commerica, he’s better off in St. Louis. Haren for a 21 year old Porcello would be like trading Hughes for Haren. Makes no sense.
wow cliff lee deal is off
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thank you
I wonder if the Tigers offered Porcello for Lee?
The Ms think they can do better than Montero, Adams, and McCalister. LMAO!!
What are you talking about, he might of been a September call up this year.
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That’s wishful thinking. The world thought that about AJax and he was more ML ready than Montero is right now.
Joelsherman1 To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard
I wonder who the other team is.
I was all for this deal. Very depressing that Lee might not be pitching against the Rays next Saturday.
Joelsherman1 To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard
See you in 2011 Cliff.
Good, the Mariners pulled out. Didn’t want Jesus traded anyway.
Love it. No trade is good. I love this team so far with Javy and AJ and Hughes and CC and Andy in the rotation. Small tweeks are good but big pieces like Lee during the season would not be cool.
I feel so used.
“Joelsherman1 #Mariners have turned in a different direction.”
What, Seattle has decided to try and win the division this year afterall?
I think it may be a ploy to try and get the Yanks to sweeten the deal.
2:44pm: The Mariners are backing off, according to Sherman. The Yankees believe they are no longer in the Lee sweepstakes, as the M’s have gone in another direction (Twitter links).
The Santana deal was different because the Twins wanted Hughes and Melky. Also the Yankees had problems with Santana’s drop in velocity. And the Yankees win in 09 gaurantees nothing in 2010. Texas, Tampa Bay, et al all have great pitching. If Lee were in our rotation, our CHANCES would have improved DRASTICALLY. Not saying they couldn’t do it, but it would have made it a whole lot easier.
The Mariners pulling away is good. Either they come back to the Yankees or he stays in Seattle because now everyone else knows the cost. NO ONE is giving up Montero + Adams for a player they will have to fight the Yankees for on the open market.
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 9th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I want to start GTLU, but it doesn’t seem to be the pressing pastime of this day. Or do you guys want a diversion until they break the news?
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I am new to this site, how do I do the Guess the Line-Up?
I thought Adams was hurt.
# Joe from Long Island July 9th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
“Joelsherman1 #Mariners have turned in a different direction.”
What, Seattle has decided to try and win the division this year afterall?
I think it may be a ploy to try and get the Yanks to sweeten the deal.
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Nah, just like with Santana, Cashman knows when to walk away. Good for him.
The pot ain’t gettin sweeter than what he had offered. Perhaps it was too sweet.
Per MLB Trade Rumors:
2:44pm: The Mariners are backing off, according to Sherman. The Yankees believe they are no longer in the Lee sweepstakes, as the M’s have gone in another direction (Twitter links).
Procello isn’t a deal breaker. The M’s wanted hitting not pitching.
David Adams ankle
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if that is the case, the trade may be back on. Take out David Adams and insert another player (Nunez etc). Not unlike the Pirates-Yankees trade 2 years ago (Coke/McCutchen etc)
2:44pm: The Mariners are backing off, according to Sherman. The Yankees believe they are no longer in the Lee sweepstakes, as the M’s have gone in another direction (all Twitter links). Sherman says ‘the Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee,’ since another team has entered discussions aggressively.
@##$$##@#$!!!!
What a waste of a day.
It appears you my resume hugging Jesus.
Doreen, you may as well proceed with GTLU as it looks like the 12 hour Lee rumor is over. Sherman began it and ended it, and I wonder if he created it.
mick July 9th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
I thought Adams was hurt.
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He is. Sounds like that was at least part of why Seattle turned the Yanks offer down.
Cashman just raised the anti and made is extra painful for the Rays, Twins & Mets to pull off the deal.
Was it all a psych-out to throw Lee off his game tonight?
# vinny-b July 9th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
David Adams ankle
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if that is the case, the trade may be back on. Take out David Adams and insert another player (Nunez etc). Not unlike the Pirates-Yankees trade 2 years ago (Coke/McCutchen etc)
Also said another team has come on and topped the Yanks.
Does this mean I can keep my Jesus “MONSTERO” Montero switch hitting action figure? Turns into a beast when hit by a pitch, and chases you with the bat.
Perhaps it was too sweet…
I don’t think so. Cash is the kind of GM who makes an offer and sticks to it. He know what kind of value he’s trading and what kind of value he’s getting. That was his offer. If the M’s think they can do better, then it’s on them.
I hate those stupid coffee shop mac book toting hippies out there.
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 9th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
@##$$##@#$!!!!
What a waste of a day.
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Doreen-what you predicted would happen this morning happened.
“2:44pm: The Mariners are backing off, according to Sherman. The Yankees believe they are no longer in the Lee sweepstakes, as the M’s have gone in another direction (Twitter links)”
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thank you. Let the Mariners go in a diifferent direction. To Oz, if need be
If we dont get Lee than life goes on. I just hope the other team is in the NL.
all those rants from the Nets fan for nothing lol
Alex -
Just post the lineup you think Girardi is going to use for tonight’s game, including player name and position.
I hate those stupid coffee shop mac book toting hippies out there
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LMAO
Was it all a psych-out to throw Lee off his game tonight?
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I no longer wish to punch Brian Cashman. Oh wait yes I do because it was Jack Z that pulled out of this deal.
# Dassit – HUP HOLLAND July 9th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
all those rants from the Nets fan for nothing lol
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Hey don’t diss Nets fans. We suffer enough lol.
Not sure that I’m buying Sherman’s excuse that there are suddenly problems with Adams’ ankle. That he had an ankle injury shouldn’t have been a surprise. They knew about it.
I am shocked the Mariners passed on this deal.
Then again, they thought this offense could score runs too.
Doreen – we’re on the same page. I didn’t even want the guy and now I’m disappointed someone else is getting him! Oh well, 2011 it is!
New Post: On second thought…
“‘the Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee,’ since another team has entered discussions aggressively.”
who is the mystery team???
Rangers?
If you have the chance to get a premier pitcher you have to go for it, but I like the team we have. If we have Thames & Miranda as bats of the bench, we’ll be ok.
thank you. Let the Mariners go in a diifferent direction. To Oz, if need be
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Seattle is “The Emerald City”
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 9th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Alex -
Just post the lineup you think Girardi is going to use for tonight’s game, including player name and position.
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Where do I post my lineup guess?
# sunny615 July 9th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
The Santana deal was different because the Twins wanted Hughes and Melky. Also the Yankees had problems with Santana’s drop in velocity. And the Yankees win in 09 gaurantees nothing in 2010. Texas, Tampa Bay, et al all have great pitching. If Lee were in our rotation, our CHANCES would have improved DRASTICALLY. Not saying they couldn’t do it, but it would have made it a whole lot easier.
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Trading for Lee wouldn’t guarantee anything either. We can go back and forth all day with this. They still have to play the games.
And the Yanks still do have the best team in baseball without Lee. They managed to accumulate the best record in baseball up to this point.
Much ado about nothing.
The Yankees got by with 3 starters for most of last year’s postseason. The lesson has been learned not to attempt such a thing this year.
As the Captain maintains, ” It’s all about pitching. “