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Game 87: Yankees at Mariners

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jul 10, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (55-31)
Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Curtis Granderson CF
Colin Curtis RF
Francisco Cervelli C
Ramiro Pena SS

RHP Javier Vazquez (7-7, 4.81)
Vazquez vs. Mariners

MARINERS (34-51)
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Chone Figgins 2B
Russell Branyan DH
Jose Lopez 3B
Franklin Gutierrez CF
Justin Smoak 1B
Michael Saunders LF
Rob Johnson C
Jack Wilson SS

RHP Felix Hernandez (6-5, 3.01)
Hernandez vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 10:10 p.m. ET / YES Network

UMPIRES: HP Lance Barksdale, 1B Ed Rapuano, 2B Tom Hallion, 3B Ron Kulpa

WEATHER: I know it’s supposed to rain in this city all the time, but we’ve had nothing but great weather this weekend. Today has been the nicest of the bunch. Just a perfect blue sky overhead.

ALL ABOUT PITCHING: The Yankees have allowed six runs total in the past five games. It’s the first time they’ve pulled that off since 2002. They’ve not allowed six runs through six games since 1998, when they did it through seven games.

HEY NOW, YOU’RE AN ALL-STAR: Nick Swisher is hitting .474 with four runs, four doubles and a home run on the current road trip. The trip, of course, started the day after he was named to the final all-star ballot.

GOING DEEP: Russell Branyan is 3-for-7 in his career against Javier Vazquez. All three hits have been home runs. It’s a small sample size but still impressive.

THREE BASES: The Yankees have 21 triples this season. That matches their total from last year.

UPDATE, 10:45 p.m.: Justin Smoak’s at-bat music: Smoke on the Water.

UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Put that man in the Home Run Derby! Swisher goes deep for a 1-0 Yankees lead.

UPDATE, 11:02 p.m.: So far so good for Vazquez. Only a walk allowed through the first three innings.

UPDATE, 11:27 p.m.: Gardner was running on the pitch, but Swisher hit it hard enough that the Mariners were still able to turn two, a double play to end the fifth inning. Still a 1-0 Yankees lead.

UPDATE, 11:34 p.m.: Must be nice to have Gardner and Granderson in left and center. Those two cover a lot of ground and there was never much doubt one of them was going to catch that fly ball. Gardner got it and Vazquez is through five innings, still 1-0 Yankees.

UPDATE, 11:40 p.m.: There’s a room in the press box that’s showing the game in 3D. It’s pretty amazing. It’s not so much that the baseball is flying off the screen or anything like that, there’s just real depth perception. The shot from behind the pitcher, you can really see how much room is from the mound to the plate. When they show the outfield, you have a better feel for how far the center fielder is from the wall. It’s little things like that, and it makes a huge difference. You have to wear some sort of 3D glasses to see it properly, but it’s an amazing way to watch the game. Meanwhile, here’s Javy, back on the mound for the sixth inning, still with a 1-0 lead.

UPDATE, 11:46 p.m.: Not the nicest way to lose a no-hitter. Ichiro shot a ball up the middle, off Vazquez, who tried to rush the throw and made a bad one in the dirt. Would have been an out had Teixeira scooped it, but that’s definitely a hit.

UPDATE, 12:05 a.m.: Vazquez opened this inning at 93 pitches. Even without that infield hit, it might have been tricky for him to go nine innings.

UPDATE, 12:08 a.m.: Damaso Marte warming in the pen as Vazquez allows his second hit of the game with two outs in the seventh.

UPDATE, 12:18 a.m.: Marte getting warm in the pen, but Girardi is sticking with Vazquez with the bases loaded and Milton Bradley at the plate. This seems to be the at-bat of the game.

UPDATE, 12:20 a.m.: Nice little play by Pena to keep the one-run lead intact. He made it look easy, but that ball really seemed destined for center field off the bat.

UPDATE, 12:30 a.m.: Looks like Cano is arguing that he made contact with that pitch. I haven’t seen a good replay of it, but it hardly matters. It was called a swinging strike and the eighth inning is over with runners stranded at first and second.

UPDATE, 12:32 a.m.: Here’s Joba with a one-run lead in the eighth. First pitch, a single to center.

UPDATE, 12:34 a.m.: On a foul ball, Jack Wilson had to run back to first base, and he intentionally ran around the mound. Just pointing it out. Chamberlain wasn’t even paying attention. He clearly didn’t care one way or the other.

UPDATE, 12:42 a.m.: Oh jeez. A grand slam. Let’s revisit the Chamberlain-in-the-eighth questions, shall we?

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884 Responses to “Game 87: Yankees at Mariners”

  1. the gay Yankee fan July 10th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    So the Jeter sitting out today was just a joke?

  2. joe July 10th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    I thought jeter was off today?

  3. ac1 July 10th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    this looks like yesterday’s lineup….

  4. ac1 July 10th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    so boston wants to trade dice-k and now they may have to trade ellsbury because they arent getting along? trouble in boston apparently.

  5. ,,, C'mon Joe July 10th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Shoot Jeter wormed his way back in the line up.

  6. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 10th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    I’m glad the trade didn’t go through:

    http://www.theyankeeu.com/

    Yanks have no clue how to develop young pitching…………

  7. Danyees July 10th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Let’s go Danyees!

  8. Jenny July 10th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Sox aren’t gonna trade Ellsbury.

    They put up with Manny, Papi’s milk shakes, Tek screwing NESN on field reporter, wacky Beckett, and Dice, they’ll put up with Ells.

  9. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    So, does Theo deal Ellsbury for BJ Upton?

  10. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Cliff lee getting smacked around by the orioles. Gave up 3 homers already. Whoa.

  11. ac1 July 10th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    jeter isnt in the lineup according to espn and mlb gamedays.

  12. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    What could the Red Sox receive in a trade for Dice-K?

  13. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    Not according to Gameday. It has Gardner then Swisher. No Jeter. I think this post is wrong.

  14. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Yeah, but none of those guys dissed the almighty Red Sox. Ellsbury has gone on record as saying the Red Sox misdiagnosed his rib injuries. How dare he?

  15. MTS July 10th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    If they have no clue how to develop young pitching, you should be sad that they did not trade for Lee.

  16. the gay Yankee fan July 10th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Chad getting lazy. Copied and paste yesterday’s lineup.

  17. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Actually he said the docs didn’t perform a front AND back MRI. Only the front.

  18. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 10th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Um, I was disappointed the trade didn’t go through……..now I’m not because putting Phil in the pen for the next 3 months doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

  19. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    He blamed the sox med staff when they claimed his back rib broke on the sliding catch when in fact it was from that first Beltre collision.

  20. sabernar July 10th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    The Pacific NW has dry summers. Try doing a little research first.

  21. Benny Blanco July 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Gardner is playing with so much confidence right now.

  22. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    That’s what’s called misdiagnosing. When you don’t do the necessary diagnostic testing, you can’t make the right call. Nothing else to say. They blew the call.

  23. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Betsy, don’t believe everything you read.

  24. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Personally I think they would’ve traded javy if they got Lee. Looks like the hitters park that is Ameriquest field doesn’t work well for him. Or maybe he just doesn’t like Texas.

  25. Icebird753 July 10th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    guys. i get the feeling that montero will be traded some day, and that upsets me.

  26. Chad Jennings July 10th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Forgot to update the lineup from last night. My bad.

  27. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 10th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Or maybe he’s just having a bad game…….

  28. pistol pete July 10th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Great lineup from Girardi, in a day we get 4 days off and he’s sitting Jeter and Posada. Anyone think we’d see Gardner, Curtis, Cervelli, and Pena starting for the Yanks when the season started, yikes! We’ll need a bat (DH) type, bench help, and bullpen help at the deadline. There are no starting pitchers out there worth giving up decent prospects or money for unless someone just gives someone away.

  29. BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    “Sox aren’t gonna trade Ellsbury.”

    —————

    though 90% of the rumors reported on here are garbage, the Sox COULD trade Ellsbury.

    He is represented by Boras and the Sox do not plan on signing him long term (at least that was the sentiment BEFORE this injury business).

    They may not try to trade him now if his value is down but I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if they dangle his name to see what they could get.

    Also, their farm system is chock full of speedy OF types. Their farm is short on power but not speed.

  30. Mark- Can't touch this. July 10th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Good throw

  31. RalphieD (OPPC) July 10th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    “. Anyone think we’d see Gardner, Curtis, Cervelli, and Pena starting for the Yanks when the season started, yikes”

    we knew gardner would be starting…thankfully

  32. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Darn it Gardner.

  33. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 10th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    I’d give Lee a pass this start – kind of a whirlwind couple of days, no?

  34. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Crap.

  35. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    “Forgot to update the lineup from last night. My bad.”

    Did you know that the phrase “my bad” was first used by Neville Chamberlain shortly after the Germans invaded Poland?

    True story.

  36. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Doreen, That’s certainly the thinking I had. He must have been so high about coming to the Yankees to be slightly let down going to the first-place Rangers.

  37. sunny615 July 10th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Very true. Altho I’d be very interested to see if it is in fact the whirlwind or ameriquest field. I’ll be tracking his home starts to see how much that hitters park affects him (if any). I doubt it will but something to do.

  38. Moo July 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    wow that was a nasty change.

  39. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    sunny615, how do you use those funky quotes?

  40. Dave July 10th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    To me – the most compelling question of this season is – What has been the difference for Phil Hughes this year? The enhanced cutter of 2010 or his experiences in the bullpen in 2009? I’d love to hear what you guys think.

    -annnd, if anyone is up to it – is there a part of you that’s ok with the fact that the Yankees didn’t trade their number one prospect – a catcher no less – for a 32 year old pitcher, even though it was Cliff Lee?

  41. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 10th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    sunny615 -

    I think there’ll be more than a few of us peeking in to Lee’s starts deep in the “hot” of Texas. ;)

  42. Tar July 10th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Dave

    If I had to pick from your 2 choices I would say the confidence he gained from pitching out of the pen. I also think his FB command ( which was outstanding out of the pen) has been a difference maker as well.

  43. pat July 10th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Anyone watching in 3D?

  44. teddy July 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    ha king felix wants no part of robbie

  45. Michael July 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Part of this Lee start could be related to the fact that he’s pitching a day later than he was scheduled, but most likely it’s just a fluky thing (he’s not walking guys or anything and he’s still going to go the whole game with a low pitch count).

  46. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 10th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    6 runs, but a full 9 innings from Lee.

    Hey, he actually managed to lower his career ERA in Arlington!

    This is going to turn out like the Washburn trade last year. Lee won’t be anywhere near as dominant in Texas.

  47. teddy July 10th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    curtis swung at ball 4

  48. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 10th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    “but most likely it’s just a fluky thing”

    No. Not a fluke. He has a 7+ ERA in Arlington in his career.

  49. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 10th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    The guy didn’t have it, so why even bother letting him go the distance? The Rangers must have no faith in their pen.

  50. the gay Yankee fan July 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    If Cliff had put up that kind of performance in his first start for the Yanks, all of the whiners here would have been out in full force.

  51. Icebird753 July 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    What a crazy game by Cliff Lee. Complete game, but 3 homers, 6 runs and 9 hits. and he STILL only threw 95 pitches. That just shows how he is consistently pounds the zone.

  52. pistol pete July 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Typical Granderson at bat, swings at ball 4 and strikes out, just not a diciplined hitter, just not a good hitter period, he’ll be an easy out in the playoffs, not sure he’s any better than Melky was who was making nothing. We gave up a lot for this guy and his game has gaping holes in it.

  53. Icebird753 July 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    *pounding not pounds

  54. Icebird753 July 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    i meant pounding

  55. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Betsy, why bother letting him go the distance? It was a loss for the Rangers anyways, so they chose to rest the bullpen. Not a matter of faith in their pen. He only threw 95 pitches.

  56. Jenny July 10th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    is anyone watching the 3-D broadcast>?

  57. pistol pete July 10th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Granderson, Curtis, Cervelli, Pena, and Gardner back to back 5 times, wow, these are the Yankees. It looks like the Cats and Jammers kids.

  58. Mgumpher July 10th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    I wonder how many fans have bought Lee shirts only to see him traded away so often.

  59. Dave July 10th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    “If I had to pick from your 2 choices I would say the confidence he gained from pitching out of the pen.”

    Tar

    That’s definitely my choice when forced to choose between the two ; ) But something tells me the degree of his effectiveness as a STARTER cannot be attributed solely to his bullpen work last year. I can see the correlation between gaining confidence in the pen and gaining confidence on the pitcher’s mound – but it just interests me where this cutter comes from.

  60. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Lee got the rented player treatment tonight. I know he didn’t throw 100 pitches but wth 5 runs in and 1st and 3rd no one out you think they would know Lee is done for the night. It will be interesting to see if he gets the same treatment that CC got from the Brewers.

  61. teddy July 10th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    ouch first at bat for smoak in sea

  62. Benny Blanco July 10th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Smoak looks great! *sarcasm*

  63. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Welcome to Seattle. :evil:

  64. m July 10th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Remember when Gutierrez was all the rage?

    Nice inning for Javy.

  65. whatever July 10th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Smoak = Mike Jacobs.. AM I WRONG?

  66. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 10th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    I just don’t know how the Rangers are going to be able to replace that .208 batting average.

  67. Tar July 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Dave

    Pitching mechanics is not a strong point of mine ( check with Blake, CB and others) But when you talk cutter and his time in the pen, one person kind of stands out doesn’t it.

  68. Michael July 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    “No. Not a fluke. He has a 7+ ERA in Arlington in his career.”

    Maybe, but we are still talking about a sample of 8 games over several seasons. He has really developed as a pitcher and even today he only gave up 9 hits over 9 innings with no walks. I wouldn’t be overly concerned if I were a Rangers fan, but of course the home/road splits are worth monitoring.

    Remember, Lee will pitch half his games away and the opposing pitchers will have to pitch in texas just the same. If the rangers had scored 8 or 9 runs we might be talking about a workhorse-type effort by lee in this game.

  69. gfd July 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    THANK YOU CLIFF, Nolan,,,,smack.

  70. Sweet Sassy Molassey July 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    The Pacific NW has dry summers. Try doing a little research first.

    ———————-

    Dude, it’s a Saturday. Ease off the throttle a little bit.

  71. BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    “I just don’t know how the Rangers are going to be able to replace that .208 batting average.”

    —————–

    some people have compared Smoak to Texeira

    but he’s hitting much better – .246

    Smoak is a legit prospect though. Should be a quality player for a long long time.

  72. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    I fully expect the Rangers to torch Cliff Lee. The only saving grace is that he doesn’t usually throw a lot of pitches, and he seems to have an easy motion. But I think the Rangers, knowing he ain’t stayin’, will look to get their money’s worth, even if it is subsidized.

  73. teddy July 10th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    pena just got schooled

  74. Michael July 10th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    “I just don’t know how the Rangers are going to be able to replace that .208 batting average.”

    With Mr. .170 Chris Davis, of course.

  75. BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    ““No. Not a fluke. He has a 7+ ERA in Arlington in his career.””

    ——————–

    He beat the Rangers earlier this year in Arlington – 2 runs.

    He’s only pitched in Arlington 4 games since he resurrected his career in 2008.

    The #s you quoted take into account his career #s.

    That’s like saying Phil Hughes stinks because his career ERA is high.

  76. Mark- Can't touch this. July 10th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Just nasty!

  77. m July 10th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    55/45 pitch that should’ve gone Gardner’s way.

  78. teddy July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    swisheeeeeeeee

  79. Mark- Can't touch this. July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Swishalicious!!!!!!!!!!!

  80. pat July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Swish warming up for the derby.

  81. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Derby practice.

  82. Chris W July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Swishalicious!

  83. Bronx Jeers July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    There’s our HR king.

  84. m July 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Hee Haw! Swish is psyched for the upcoming week.

  85. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Swishalicious!

  86. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Swishalicious!

  87. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Swish with mad power!! I didn’t think that was going out especially in this ballpark.

  88. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    1. This HP ump seems to like the high strike.

    2. Go Nick!

  89. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    # BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    ““No. Not a fluke. He has a 7+ ERA in Arlington in his career.””

    ——————–

    He beat the Rangers earlier this year in Arlington – 2 runs.

    He’s only pitched in Arlington 4 games since he resurrected his career in 2008.

    The #s you quoted take into account his career #s.

    That’s like saying Phil Hughes stinks because his career ERA is high.
    ———————–

    You may be right. Time will tell. But I will not be surprised at all if this turns out very similar to the Washburn situation last season. No, Lee will not pitch to a 7+ ERA in his time in Texas, but I don’t think he’s going to be anywhere near as dominant as he was in Seattle.

  90. Michael July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Imagine if Nady hadn’t gotten injured and given Swisher the full-time job last season…

  91. Don July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Swisher is great. Whatever happened to Wilson Betimet (or however it is spelled)?

  92. Tar July 10th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    “Hee Haw”

    Where did that come from. :D

  93. pat July 10th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Remember when Kazmir was good?

    He gave up 8 in the 3rd, 5 in the 5th and Scoscia didn’t pull him.

  94. BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    “But I will not be surprised at all if this turns out very similar to the Washburn situation last season. No, Lee will not pitch to a 7+ ERA in his time in Texas, but I don’t think he’s going to be anywhere near as dominant as he was in Seattle.”

    —————-

    that’s possible.

    BUT, his ERA this season was better on the road than it was in seattle.

    clearly, Lee is a not a product of Safeco and the OF defense as he has been a Cy Young caliber pitcher prior to this season.

  95. Chris W July 10th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Betemit’s actually playing quite well as the DH in Kansas City. But he was useless in a White Sox uniform.

  96. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) July 10th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Every time Lee pitched in Arlington he was facing the Rangers. Maybe there were just guys there that had his number? That happens even to great pitchers. Tony Gwynn wore out Greg Maddux, for example.

  97. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Was Roy Clark from Hawaii??????

  98. BSPN July 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    It’s just scary how fast Cano’s batting average is falling.

  99. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    # Don July 10th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Swisher is great. Whatever happened to Wilson Betimet (or however it is spelled)?
    ———–

    Playing for the Royals.

  100. Dave July 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Tar

    -For the sake of clarity, there is another lohud fan who posts on here much more frequently than I do, who uses the handle “Dave.” I was just trying to strike up a conversation. If there’s anything I’ve learned from my semi-frequent conversations with the fans of this blog, it’s that there’s no better place to talk Yankee baseball than right here.

  101. m July 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Tar,

    The 70′s. ;)

  102. BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Betemit has been raking this year.

    Better #s than Swisher… though a bit fewer AB’s :)

  103. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    pat, are you serious? Sounds like Scoscia was punishing him for some reason, making him stay out there and get embarrassed.

    Kazmir hasn’t been sharp since he hurt his arm in Tampa a few years back.

  104. beat-a-meat update July 10th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    believe it or not, Betemit is actually raking this year:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=4968

    obviously not saying I’d take him over Swish, but at least he hasn’t completely flamed out.

  105. Benny Blanco July 10th, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    You cant make this stuff up.

    Cliff lee gives up 6 runs and Javy is pitching like he has a complete game in him.

  106. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 10th, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    # GGBG (50 SB’s for me!) July 10th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Every time Lee pitched in Arlington he was facing the Rangers. Maybe there were just guys there that had his number? That happens even to great pitchers. Tony Gwynn wore out Greg Maddux, for example.
    ——————————

    So, I guess the Orioles have his number? ;)

    I think Lee is a great pitcher. He showed that last year and the first half of this year. But it is my opinion that he will see a pretty big drop off in Texas. He might still win a lot of games because of that offense, but I’m thinking his ERA is going to be at least a run and a half higher for the second half of the season.

  107. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    “It’s just scary how fast Cano’s batting average is falling.”
    ————————

    It’s not like Cano was going to hit .350 for the rest of the season. He will not get 1 pitch to hit tonight. Felix just walked him on 4 pitches and didn’t even bother pitching to him since the bottom of the lineup is so brutal.

  108. Bronx Jeers July 10th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    Betemit’s actually playing quite well as the DH in Kansas City. But he was useless in a White Sox uniform.

    ———————————-
    So was Swisher.

    Must be the uniform.

  109. Michael July 10th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    “You may be right. Time will tell. But I will not be surprised at all if this turns out very similar to the Washburn situation last season. No, Lee will not pitch to a 7+ ERA in his time in Texas, but I don’t think he’s going to be anywhere near as dominant as he was in Seattle.”

    Washburn was not anywhere near the caliber of Cliff Lee. He was a veteran having a very good start to the season, coming off 3 years of mediocrity. Lee won the Cy Young two year ago in dominating fashion and has been quite good ever since. He has a 91/6 K/BB this year, after all.

    He did pretty well last year pitching at a similar hitter’s ballpark in Philly.

    As a Yankees fan I really hope you are right, at least for this season…

  110. Dave July 10th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    I hated that Betemit trade more than anything bc It made no sense at the time – I feel bad for Proctor now.

  111. Disco July 10th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    Montero went yard tonight.

    Jews For Jesus.

  112. Tar July 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    Hee Haw

    What’s the difference between a fiddle and a violin?

    Who cares, neither one is an ukulele!

  113. Dave July 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    Name one stretch this season during which A Rod hasn’t been able to hit up the middle consistently

  114. pat July 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    “Sounds like Scoscia was punishing him for some reason, making him stay out there and get embarrassed.”

    Punishing Kazmir is one thing, punishing the rest of the team is another.

  115. teddy July 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    does curtis bunt and try for a run

  116. Mark- Can't touch this. July 10th, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Cano hit his pitch tonight.

  117. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Felix doesn’t look comfortable on the mound, taking a lot of time between pitches, facial expressions….Maybe he’s missing Cliff?

  118. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    What are the odds of the bottom of the order scoring one of these runs?

  119. n July 10th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    Got to get Austin Jackson back. This Granderson is so so utterly utterly useless.

  120. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    pat, I didn’t say it made sense.

  121. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    3run hr

  122. COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 10th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    Was Roy Clark from Hawaii??????
    —————————————————

    No, Roy Clark is from the sticks in southern Virginia like I am…..his hometown was Meherrin, Virginia.

    Mickey Mantle asked Roy to sing his hit song, “Yesterday When I was Young” @ the Mick’s funeral because he felt the sing summer up his life.

  123. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    oh well, next time.

  124. n July 10th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    so disappointing.

  125. Tar July 10th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Was that fist pump for Cervelli.

  126. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    The great bottom of the order. Too bad Granderson isn’t a free agent after this season. He looks like a over matched rookie most of the time.

  127. COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 10th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 10th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
    Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    Was Roy Clark from Hawaii??????
    ?????????????????

    No, Roy Clark is from the sticks in southern Virginia like I am?..his hometown was Meherrin, Virginia.

    Mickey Mantle asked Roy to sing his hit song, ?Yesterday When I was Young? @ the Mick?s funeral because he felt the sing summer up his life.

    “summed” up his life I meant….regret the typo

  128. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Michelle, did Granderson look overmatched at King Felix just a few moments ago?

  129. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    n, you really missing those 85 strike outs and .400 slugging pct.? Granderson is having a tough season, but, if you want a to replace him, you’ve got to do better than that.

  130. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Then maybe m liked Minnie Pearl?

    http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resiz.....arl-tn.jpg

  131. waka flocka July 10th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    where are all the people who wanted Cervelli to start over Posada?

  132. Benny Blanco July 10th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Leave Granderson alone. How quickly people forget that granderson had huge hits for the yankees this season. I understand that he hasn’t been swinging well. but I’m confident he and klong with straighten this out. Have patience.

  133. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    i do think that grandersdon is about to breakout, hopefully he’ll have a better second half

  134. the gay Yankee fan July 10th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Vazquez has a no-hitter so far.

  135. Chris W July 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    5 changeups and a strike-out. Wow.

  136. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    don’t jinx it!!!!

  137. Don July 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Javy really is doing a good job tonight.

  138. Benny Blanco July 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Where was that?

  139. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    that’s a strike

  140. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Enough with this Lee crap. We will see him next season….

  141. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    # luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    don’t jinx it!!!!

    it’s too late

  142. Michael July 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    It seems that with Romine and Montero, and our willingness in this Lee situation, we are going to be willing to trade from our catching depth at some point. Those are some serious prospects, so who do you think we might get in the future?

  143. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    “where are all the people who wanted Cervelli to start over Posada?”

    Don’t jinx that either.

  144. Disco July 10th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Can someone tell me why they Granderson dumped after all of 242 PA? That’s some sample size compared to the rest of his career!

    Yes, the offense has been just average not what we expected. But his LD% is 24%. His BABIP is .273, well below his average. He’s been somewhat unlucky this year. Yes, he’s faced a great number of lefties which can explain a dip in his overall numbers, but at the same time bad luck has played an ever bigger part. His ZiPS projection for the rest of the season has him with a .348 wOBA- I’ll take that.

    Grandy has also played very well on defense, which many people seem to forget when evaluating him. If he can post another 3 WAR season this year, than that’ll be exactly what was expected of him before the year began. He should reach that mark because the offense will come around. Some of his line drives will/should start to fall for hits.

  145. Chris W July 10th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    I’m intrigued to see how capable Florida is of keeping Ricky Nolasco or Josh Johnson.

  146. blackaccord July 10th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Lot of ppl in this board wanted javy gone… look at what they feel now..
    same thing will happen with granderson..

  147. pat July 10th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    I’m reading the 3D camera gives the angle from behind homeplate and you can pick up the movement on the ball. Very cool.

  148. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Guess u r right

  149. tampayank July 10th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    “Chris W says:

    July 10, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    I’m intrigued to see how capable Florida is of keeping Ricky Nolasco or Josh Johnson.”

    Their new retractable roof ballpark opening in a few years will help with their revenue

  150. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Is nunez just a short stop???, because i’m sick of watching ramiro’s complete futility with a bat

  151. OKI/DAVE July 10th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Swisher never swings at two balls in the dirt. Just hope this homerun derby doesn’t bring back bad habits for the 2nd half. Being aggressive is good, but his thing is seeing good pitches and hitting the stuffing out of it…

  152. Tar July 10th, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    “Javy really is doing a good job tonight.”

    And as an added bonus, is sparing us from Matt.

  153. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Tar July 10th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
    “Javy really is doing a good job tonight.”

    And as an added bonus, is sparing us from Matt.

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!

  154. Bad Scooter July 10th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Wow. These WB Mason commercials are brutal and stupid.

  155. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Johnny Damon’s vacant house. :cry:

  156. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    # Bad Scooter July 10th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Wow. These WB Mason commercials are brutal and stupid.

    LOL, finally someone agrees with me. :)

  157. COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 10th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    Then maybe m liked Minnie Pearl?

    http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resiz…..arl-tn.jpg
    ______________________________________-

    I do not know about Minnie, but the Mick did love country music……both country music and NASCAR are very big in the area of the country that Roy Clark and I are from……but I never got into either one.

    Also, the Yankees were very popular in our area, too……in addition to the obvious reasons, Richmond, VA was the Yankees’ AAA Team back then.

  158. COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 10th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    Then maybe m liked Minnie Pearl?

    http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resiz…..arl-tn.jpg
    ______________________________________-

    I do not know about Minnie, but the Mick did love country music……both country music and NASCAR are very big in the area of the country that Roy Clark and I are from……but I never got into either one.

    Also, the Yankees were very popular in our area, too……in addition to the obvious reasons, Richmond, VA was the Yankees’ AAA Team back then.

  159. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Vaz is on tonight, the starters are just unbelievable these days

  160. Zach July 10th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    First 5 NYY batters are 6-11 with a BB, HR, K
    Last 4 NYY batters are 0-8 with 3K.

    We’re really missing DJ, Jorge, and, I guess, Thames.

    Good thing Javy’s dominating.

  161. SMK July 10th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Sadly, you can forget about Josh Johnson for the next few years.

    He signed a 4-yr deal in January. The unreal part: he’ll be paid less than $10M/yr.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....24976.html

  162. Bad Scooter July 10th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    no no going. Ooops.

  163. OKI/DAVE July 10th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Very smart of Cervelli there….When Javy threw those three balls in the dirt and seemed a little gassed….Cervelli readjusted his shin guard to give him the breather and the fly out. Cervelli is one cool cat….

  164. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    Sooooo….. Wanna hear a minor league report that’s gonna make some people drool?

    Andrew Brackman…yes that Andrew Brackman is locating as a SP in AA and is topping out at 99 MPH painting the black.

  165. JM July 10th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    #Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
    # Bad Scooter July 10th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Wow. These WB Mason commercials are brutal and stupid.

    LOL, finally someone agrees with me.

    ______________

    Bring back the Giuseppe Franco spots.

  166. LGY July 10th, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Watching this game I thought of something that would be a great way to stick it to the Mariners if the scenario ever played out.

    Javy would be very good in this ballpark.

    Yanks offer Javy arb and I think the Mariners could be a suitor for him.

    Yanks get picks frrom the Mariners in the process and draft their next Phil Hughes :)

  167. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Dellin Betances is doing even better at A ball and is topping out at 98 MPH

  168. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Colorado Yankee Fan, the ‘m’ I’m referring to is our esteemed and beloved LoHud commenter m, not the Mick!

    She made a “Hee Haw!” comment before and we were just wondering why.

  169. Chris W July 10th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    ROBBED!

  170. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    I guess the twin towers might make it after all!!

  171. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    I really hope that Tex doesn’t lose his timing/mechanics when they get back from the all star break. He said last year that he hates the break because after the 5 days off sometimes he feels like he is back at square 1.

  172. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    LGY, I like that scenario. :)

  173. OKI/DAVE July 10th, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    I really like what I see in ARod’s at bat’s going to right lately. When he starts doing that you’ll see the real ARod numbers coming to the plate.

  174. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Luis ETA on the Twin Towers if Cashman doesn’t trade them, late 2011..but one of them will be up here in Sept. getting a cup of coffee.

  175. pat July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    John Elway looks old. :sad:

  176. sorry, they can't all be winners July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    that’s nothing…Dellin Brackman is hitting 197 mph

  177. troll27 July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    3D version is telecast on FIOS, interesting technology. Instead of the split-colors overlay of old-style, a non 3D tv shows it as side-by-side squeezed images. Commercial breaks are 3D shots of the stadium and surrounding area.

    The 27 people watching it must be loving it!

  178. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Brandon – I’m telling you, 2012 – CC, AJ, Lee, Phil, Brackman

  179. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Brandon, are you ready to watch the Cameron Diaz catalogue this winter????

  180. COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 10th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    OK then…….Never Mind………

  181. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Brackman topped out at 99 MPH today for the Thunder
    Betances w/ new mechanics is topping out at 98 MPH

    Both have triple digits ability.

  182. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    I hope cash doesn’t trade them. we have to refresh the core of the team eventually

  183. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    pat July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    John Elway looks old.

    you beat me on this.

  184. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    I don’t think we will see Betances in September but he is going to an All-Star one day.

  185. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    But I always enjoy hearing stories about the Mick!

  186. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    Nick LOL :lol: I can atleast watch her movies and catalogues over K-Hud.

  187. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    going to be* an All-Star one day

  188. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Vazquez has been very impressive tonight. Too bad he only has 1 run to work with.

  189. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    the way i understand he is pitching, i think u r right on the money. 053 era!! 39k!! thats nsty stuff

  190. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    damn Japanese

  191. Zoso July 10th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    damn!

    in 34 IP, Betances has allowed 13 Hits.

    http://www.baseball-reference......tanc001del

    Brackman’s progress is even more encouraging since he signed a major league deal. There’ll be more of an impetus to get him on the 25-man roster than the ordinary prospect, right?

  192. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    ther goes the nono

  193. Trevor July 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    # Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Brandon – I’m telling you, 2012 – CC, AJ, Lee, Phil, Brackman
    _____________________________________________________

    Nah, more like, CC, Lee, AJ, Hughes, Betances

    Brackman in the pen.

  194. m July 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Reminds me of how Phil lost his no-no. :(

    Get the next guy…

  195. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    I’m strongly rooting for Betances, he’s NY born, from Grand Street Rapids H.S. in Brooklyn..the kid is a pup..he’d be an amazing story in NYC.

    How is that not an error on Teix.

  196. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) July 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    First hit to break up a no-no should always be a clean one. That could have easily been scored a throwing error on Javy.

  197. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    It is only a small sampling size, but what has impressed me the most about Betances’ return so far is his BBs and WHIP

  198. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    That should have been an error. The ball beat Ichiro.

  199. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    Damn…That was an error. Home cooking. Vazquez really rushed on that but Tex usually scoops those.

  200. DFox July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    The Seattle scorer is DISGUSTING. What happened to the first hit in a no-hitter is supposed to be semi-clean?

    That’s an error. A good throw gets him by a step.

  201. m July 10th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    :mad: @ Jaba

  202. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Kind of crazy, and hopefully it was last… but Betances has returned throwing harder and with better control.

    I am also rooting for Betances because is a NY guy.

  203. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Just another reason for me to hate Suzuki.

  204. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Jaba, may I ask your country of origin?

  205. BD (Boston Dave) July 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Vazquez’s pitch count was going to be too high to go for the no-no anyway

    it’s a blessing in disguise IF the Yanks keep this lead!

  206. Zoso July 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    that was an E-1.

    Javy would run into major pitch-count issues at this rate, anyway.

    The stretch run is the thing at this point. Put aside individual accomplishments and the like…

  207. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    The throw was in the dirt. If anything, an E1.

  208. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    because we r playing in seattle, thats an error in ny to preserve the nono, here no way

  209. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    Stupid Ichiro. The home scorer wanted to make sure he got all of his 400 hits this season. The Yankees pitchers don’t have good luck with balls hit back at them lol

  210. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Luis, Truth…they said..well actually Dellin said the reason he was off w/ his control was b/c he wasn’t using his legs, kid is 6’8 you’d think he’d figure that out, they believe the same happened w/ the 6’11 Brackman.

  211. Mark- Can't touch this. July 10th, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    How tall is Umblado?

  212. Jaba Tips his Cap July 10th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Jaba, may I ask your country of origin?

    Algeria

  213. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    It’s amazing how these kids have it in thier head throw w/ your arms and shoulders and muscle it through…instead of knowing the legs and hips are the main parts of pitching.

  214. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    I am far from a pitching expert, but learning to use your legs is something that I think comes with maturity and experience.

    It is like that without a lot of sports/endeavors- the more maturity/experience you get the more you learn to use your legs.

    Take boxing for instance.. with some experience and maturity you learn how to start “sitting” on your punches and using your legs.

  215. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Girardi is probably going to call the scorer now and make sure he keeps it as a hit. :(

  216. Disco July 10th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    scoops never counted as an error, right or wrong. thats probably only scored an error in the bronx.

  217. Bronx Jeers July 10th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    Am I alone in this or is there just a slight imperfection in that camera that puts a tiny white dot that looks like the ball on those flies to center?

  218. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    with* a lot of sports/endeavors not “without a lot of sports/endeavors”

  219. pat July 10th, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Javy pitching like he doesn’t want to be part of a trade for Werth.

  220. Mark- Can't touch this. July 10th, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Oh if Dellin keeps this through AA a year form now Yankees organization might have a a top 5 hitting and Pitching prospect is Sanchez and Dellin.

  221. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Algeria… sorry about your World Cup team. Just an honor to be there?

    How did an Algerian come to be a Yankee fan?

  222. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    I would have Colin bunt here

  223. THE TRUTH July 10th, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    How did an Algerian come to be a Yankee fan?

    because its a Yankees universe.

  224. luis July 10th, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    i think that dellin eventually might be a lot better than brackman, he is younger, he has been coached since a very young age (profesionally i mean ). Plus i think brackman having a mlb contract might be rushed a little bit, specially if you take in to account his agent

  225. Michelle July 10th, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    That was a real waste of an out. The odds of Colin hitting Felix aren’t good, they should of just got the runner over.

  226. Bronx Jeers July 10th, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Hey it looks like Yankee Classics!

  227. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) July 10th, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Anyone else only seeing the 3b coach?

  228. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 10th, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    They got him pitching w/ a 3/4th angle…hopefully the kid keeps doing the cardio in the offseason.

    Same w/ Brackman, Mr. I’ll pick up weights and do basketball drills in yr.1 as an amateur prospect.

  229. Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Dedicated Robby Thompson cam?

  230. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    I see the white dot that looks like a ball, too.

  231. Bronx Jeers July 11th, 2010 at 12:01 am

    They accidentally cut to the Steinbrenner spy cam.

    Too many runners being thrown out at home. Thompson’s on double secret probation.

  232. m July 11th, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Help, please. I’m on a macbook pro. The stupid mouse pad made my video smaller. How do I get it back to the original size?

  233. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos, The white dot was on the screen during last night’s game as well. Annoying.

  234. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) July 11th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    # Bronx Jeers July 10th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    Am I alone in this or is there just a slight imperfection in that camera that puts a tiny white dot that looks like the ball on those flies to center?

    ———————————

    I see that as well. Thought it was a dead pixel on my TV for a minute and now I see it every time there is a fly ball.

  235. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Yeah honoring someone who trashes other nationalities, huh?

  236. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) July 11th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    So Travis Wood took a perfect game into the 9th. Javy took a no-no into the 6th and Chris Tillman took a no-no into the 7th….all tonight. Crazy.

  237. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 12:05 am

    A Happy Wife is a Happy Life -

    I slept for last night’s game. :)

  238. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:06 am

    I still say Teix should have had an error, that’s the 1st basehit of the game for SEA there.

  239. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    ok, now there is no doubt a clean single

  240. jack lv nv July 11th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    Cervelli is a nice kid but at this point he is toast. Get through this year and we will never hear from him again. He will fade into oblivion.

  241. pat July 11th, 2010 at 12:08 am

    Curry is pretty good in the booth.

  242. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:08 am

    Curry is excellent. A joy to listen to.

  243. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Once it gets back to Ichiro through Branyan, Mo better be pitching, whether its the 8th or 9th.

  244. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Nice time for the CF to break a 0-21. Vazquez really missed his location on the pitch though.

  245. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    # Nick in SF July 10th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Algeria… sorry about your World Cup team. Just an honor to be there?
    How did an Algerian come to be a Yankee fan?

    Yes, it’s an honor to advance to world cup for any countries.
    as for your 2nd question, how did an Italian come to be a Yankee fan? how did a Russian come to be a Yankee fan? how did an African come to be a Yankee fan?

    hmmm?

  246. UnKnown July 11th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Both Lee and Smoak garbarge tonight

  247. teddy July 11th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    i know javier been great, but i bring in marte

  248. Bad Scooter July 11th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Does Seattle want to rethink the deal for Montero?

  249. Brian July 11th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    who’s the guy that called 4 STRIKEOUTS for smoak???? i saw it earlier!!!

    WELL, you’re one away!! what a freakin prediction

  250. rb July 11th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Mo will not be pitching 2 innings anymore. Remember he pulled out of ASG due to knee and oblique?

  251. Bronx Jeers July 11th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    And Smoaks real problem is against lefties. Tough debut for he guy.

  252. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Terrible throw they had Lopez if it was a decent throw.

  253. Bad Scooter July 11th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Cervelli is going to be a very good backup catcher for a long, long time. Sorry he isn’t Johnny Bench. Geesh.

  254. teddy July 11th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    ahh come on cervilli

  255. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    “Once it gets back to Ichiro through Branyan, Mo better be pitching, whether its the 8th or 9th.”
    ————————-

    Marte will make his once a week appearance to face them. I hate when he doesn’t pitch often and then Girardi brings him into a big spot.

  256. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Ok, Mo doesn’t have to pitch two innings. He just has to pitch in the highest leverage situations. That would presumably be when Ichiro gets up, even if its the 8th, if the score holds.

  257. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    dangerous ptch coming

  258. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    I know we don’t have fans ripping on Dreamy Eyes..

  259. pat July 11th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Montero on yesterday’s trade rumors-

    “….all my dreams are with this team. Whatever they do, I’m going to have to live with it. But I want to stay here. I love the Yankees.”

  260. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Vazquez is definitely gased by now,…

  261. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    I’m not trying to honor anyone, OKI/DAVE, just to find out who it is making the offending comment.

    Jaba, many of us didn’t appreciate your remark about the Japanese.

    “how did an Italian come to be a Yankee fan? how did a Russian come to be a Yankee fan? how did an African come to be a Yankee fan?”

    Well, if they were born and raised in those countries, I would be curious in each respect. I’m always curious how people in other countries come to be Yankee fans.

  262. qiantom July 11th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Vazquez always pitches scared in key situations.

  263. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:15 am

    BTW Jesus hit a tape measure HR vs Happ today.

  264. Nyyankspg July 11th, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Is ne1 watching the game in 3d????? If so how does it look?

  265. Bronx Jeers July 11th, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Hmmmm.

  266. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Girardi is going way too long with Vazquez. I would be surprised if this inning ends with the Yankees still having the lead.

  267. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    this is pushing it!!!, javy is gassed

  268. tampayank July 11th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    “pat says:

    July 11, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Montero on yesterday’s trade rumors-

    “….all my dreams are with this team. Whatever they do, I’m going to have to live with it. But I want to stay here. I love the Yankees.””

    :(

  269. pat July 11th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    NINO!

  270. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    WAY TO GO NINO!

  271. Chris W July 11th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Ramiro saves it!

  272. teddy July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    great play pena, great job javier

  273. Bronx Born July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Nick when I was in Prague a few years ago, all the stores sold Yankee caps. I did not see any American team other than the Yankees. It was quite amazing to walk around the city and see pink Yankee hats..

  274. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    PENA!!!! way to go!!!

  275. DFox July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Fan poll: does Jeter make that play?

  276. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Love Javy proving haters wrong.

  277. whatever July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Lorenz and Flaherty are doing a terrible job.. they totally missed the whole Girardi, Vazquez situation on the mound.. that was a big moment in the game when Girardi wanted to look into Javy’s eyes and see if he could get that out.. and these dumb announcers are talking about everything else but that..

  278. rb July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Wow. And Javy gets out of it. Okay boys, another run or two would be nice. Any chance Hernandez is tiring?

  279. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    “Vazquez always pitches scared in key situations.”

    —————————–

    You mean like the 7 scoreless innings he just pitched during which he basically had to be perfect, because he only had 1 run to work?

    If he pitches that well “scared,” well someone needs to convince Javy the boogeyman resides in his locker

  280. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    WOW, they got lucky. Hopefully Joba/Marte don’t blow the game in the 8th inning after all of that.

  281. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    DFox not w/ his legs..he makes the jump but not the dash to get to the jump.

  282. Donnie - Will Meet Milton Bradley Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Gutsy effort by Javy, and a great play by Pena. Now let’s see if we can score 2 or 3 more. I’d really like to NOT have Joba pitching with a 1 run cushion.

  283. COLORADO YANKEE FAN July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    The Captain makes that play, too.

  284. The Real Frank & Beans July 11th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Anyone noticed that Brandon Laird has 19 homeruns and 81 RBI in 342 AB with Trenton. Crazy Stats.

  285. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    no way old man jete makes that play.

  286. blackaccord July 11th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    if javy wins tonight he will be 8-7 with a 4.45 era at the break.. Better than lackey who is 9-5 with a 4.78 erea

  287. Taz July 11th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    How did Nino save it? Game day says Bradley lined out to right center???

  288. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Javy must be saying…

    ‘So this is how Johan feels on the other side’

  289. DFox July 11th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    I have to agree with Brandon, I love Jete but that ball seemed to look like the one he hasn’t really been able to get to.

  290. gfd July 11th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    Javy had a 24 pitch inning, Yankees are letting Felix off with 9 or 10 pitch innings, sigh!

  291. Zoso July 11th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    does Jeter make that play?

    —————

    yes

    it wasn’t a rocket by any means

  292. rb July 11th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    “Lorenz and Flaherty are doing a terrible job.. they totally missed the whole Girardi, Vazquez situation on the mound.. ”

    you would think a former catcher would bring that up

  293. Eric July 11th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    If Jete was in the game, we would be trailing now

  294. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    Bronx Born, I like to take pictures of people in Yankee hats when I travel. Like this one:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....316516101/

  295. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    ‘Anyone noticed that Brandon Laird has 19 homeruns and 81 RBI in 342 AB with Trenton. Crazy Stats.’

    Unfortunately he’s trade bait. We all know why and won’t argue it.

  296. teddy July 11th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    here comes a 2 hr from arod!!!!!!!

  297. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    Jaba, many of us didn’t appreciate your remark about the Japanese.
    I don’t think ‘damn xxx’ means anything serious. My coworkers constantly yell damn Texans.

    Well, if they were born and raised in those countries, I would be curious in each respect.
    Just because there were not born in US? LOL

  298. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    I am scared to see who will be pitching the 8th inning. Only a 1 run lead with Joba on the mound…Ouch…

  299. Eric July 11th, 2010 at 12:24 am

    “Anyone noticed that Brandon Laird has 19 homeruns and 81 RBI in 342 AB with Trenton. Crazy Stats.’”

    He’ll look great in a Royals/White Sox/Pirates uniform later this year or next year.

  300. whatever July 11th, 2010 at 12:24 am

    I think Brandon Laird is going to be our version of Youkillis, just a hunch.

  301. Tar July 11th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Bronx Born

    I am eagerly awaiting my copy. The foreign ordering thing initially had me a little spooked ( was going to wait for Amazon) but Pay Pal made it easy. :D

  302. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Oh well, I tried.

  303. UnKnown July 11th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    This is what league MVP’s do is get a hit here

  304. Bronx Born July 11th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    That is great Nick. Thanks for that. I might start doing that myself. Yankee fans all over this earth. I was at a restaurant earlier today (sorry no in and out but we do have 5 guys!) and I was holding the door open for this guy and his family and he was wearing a Yankee hat. He thanked me – I said it was the hat.. He smiled. (am in clearwater, florida btw – Rays country).

  305. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    The thing w/ Al, they say he’s having a bad yr. in what way? that guy has turned into Manny pt.2 he’s scoring in more ways than just the HR, you don’t want to see him w/ the game on the line if your the other team.

  306. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    ‘Anyone noticed that Brandon Laird has 19 homeruns and 81 RBI in 342 AB with Trenton. Crazy Stats.’

    Unfortunately he’s trade bait. We all know why and won’t argue it.
    —————-

    He doesn’t have to be trade bait. In 2 years when Arod is 36, Laird can play 3rd base and Arod can be the DH. Since Arod has a contract until he is like 50 he will finish his career as a DH. They will need a 3rd baseman before we know it.

  307. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Mo should be in the 8th, not Joba.

    Would you rather have Mo or Joba face Ichiro, Figgins, and maybe Branyan?

  308. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    “I think Brandon Laird is going to be our version of Youkillis, just a hunch.”

    He’ll be traded for BP help.

  309. UnKnown July 11th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    I love Cano’s plate discipline this year

  310. The Real Frank & Beans July 11th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    whatever July 11th, 2010 at 12:24 am
    I think Brandon Laird is going to be our version of Youkillis, just a hunch.

    ______________________________

    From your mouth my friend. He is 23 and a beast.

    Eric,

    I hope he is not traded. This kid can hit he has done it almost every year.

  311. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Seattle announcers say the Mariners getting a break there after watching replay.

  312. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Bad call, if he foul tipped it in the dirt it’s not a k, nbad call

  313. Yankee44 July 11th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Bad call on the foul tip in the dirt.

  314. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Laird can be decent in the majors, but he already doesn’t have good BB rates in the minors and isn’t supposed to be a good fielder. But if his discipline isn’t good, like most hitters, he won’t be a good hitter.

  315. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Great call ump….

  316. UnKnown July 11th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    B.S. call robed Cano

  317. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Which Joba will show up tonight?

  318. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    I like Laird but Al isn’t moving off 3B..at best Laird will play off the bench..what if KC dangles Soria for Laird and McCallister…your not making that deal?

  319. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    What position does Laird play, if he can hit he should be up because we have a lot of guys who can’t hit right now.

  320. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    Disco, Girardi is by-the-book. Won’t happen.

  321. SMK July 11th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    Youkilis would have found a way to get hit by that pitch.

  322. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    so as usual, the umps try to make winning that much more difficult for our team.

  323. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Marte should be in to face the lefties not Joba. This is a stupid move.

  324. m July 11th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Ah, so something got lost in translation.

    Just a note for the future, it’s offensive to substitute any nationality for “Texans” in that phrase.

    Funny, but true. Clearing out my daughter’s high school stuff. Just now found a map she used to study for world history. Algeria was outlined in green. It was only 1 of 2 countries she outlined.

  325. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    damn, Joba!

  326. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Looks like the bad one.

  327. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    great here comes Kyle Chamberlain

  328. Donnie - Will Meet Milton Bradley Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    I need alcohol.

  329. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Here we go with the great Joba….

  330. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    And Joba does as Joba does.

  331. The Real Frank & Beans July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Great Point Michelle they need to keep him

  332. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Well this is not good. Ichiro vs. Joba. Advantage Ichiro.

  333. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    I hate managers. You would think one stat geek in the organization could sit down with him and discuss high leverage situations.

  334. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Joba sucks!

  335. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Joba sucks!

  336. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Can’t fault Joba for that blooper. Hope he don’t implode now.

  337. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:33 am

    The chances of this inning not getting out of hand are very slim.

  338. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Joba threw that 97 mph on the black, Wilson hits it and already we’re ripping him?

  339. SMK July 11th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    I thought Granderson had it.

    Turns out it was just the phantom ball.

  340. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 11th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Calm down people. A pitch down and away and Wilson barely got wood on it.

  341. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    joba needs to just focus on ichiro since they will probably not throw the runner out anyway

  342. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Where is Marte? I know he hasn’t been very good but Joba isn’t either.

  343. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Come on Joba!!!

  344. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    ooooooooh so close.

  345. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Why not Marte in the 8th with all the lefties coming up and Joba to close and a night off for Mo. Joba in the 8th vs the leftys is tough then we need to use Mo and he’s hurting and should be given the day off.

  346. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Ichiro is just to fast. Cano’s arm would of gotten him.

  347. Donnie - Will Meet Milton Bradley Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Bah. Anyone but Ichiro, and that’s a DP. Gotta think Ichirco’s going to run.

  348. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    nice stop by joba. that would have been in center field.

  349. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    At least he fields better than he pitches.

  350. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Not too bad there Sloba

  351. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Yes.

  352. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    all right, successful dp next

  353. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Terrible throw by Joba. I thought it was going into CF.

  354. The Real Frank & Beans July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Jeter Turns that DP. LOL

  355. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Well that a quick turn around, bad location.

  356. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    how the hell ..

  357. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    do NOT throw a fastball.

  358. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    And then lets Ichiro’s boy toy get a hit.

  359. Rob B (Never a Gardner doubter) July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Now, the pitch to Figgins was a bad pitch. Yuck. Up and over the middle.

  360. CS IN LA July 11th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Joba is scaring me.

  361. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Joba gives up a rope on a high fastball, now he’ll be too traumatized to throw a FB and will throw a bunch of hanging sliders..

  362. Donnie - Will Meet Milton Bradley Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Oh boy. This isn’t going to be fun, is it?

  363. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Here we go again 2 hits, 3 batters, now Mr strikeout is up, if Joba can’t get him he sucks.

  364. Cookiepuss July 11th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    What the hell is a basestealer like Granderson doing standing on first base the entire inning with the Yanks up 1-0 vs. Seattle’s ace and the bottom of the order up? STEAL SECOND AND GET INTO SCORING POSITION FOR THE BOTTOM OF THE ORDER!!!

    And WT F is Girardi doing having Colin “Backup RF” Curtis swinging away with no outs, Granderson on 1B, and the Yanks up only 1-0 vs. Seattle’s ace? Or does Girardi expect that vaunted Curtis/Cervelli/Pena lineup to score 2 or 3 runs?

    Very poor play by Granderson and managing by Girardi tonight.

    I want Granderson out of here after this season because the Yanks need to strengthen the outfield offensively. Gardner should be the starting CF, Swisher the DH, and there should be two bonafide hitters in LF and RF next season.

  365. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    This is not a good matchup. Branyan will hit one out if Joba doesn’t locate.

  366. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    geez, he’s horrible

  367. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Talk to him

  368. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Joba could screw up a junkyard….

  369. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    oy

  370. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Cervelli has been a joke behind the plate lately.

  371. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Well just don’t give up the lead. :-(

  372. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Now a hit and we losw, Joba sucks, we need bullpen help, please.

  373. Chris W July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    This has disaster written *all* over it.

  374. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Get him out of there now. Marte/Robinson….pleeeze.

  375. Donnie - Will Meet Joba Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    I hate him. I swear to God, I hate him. I don’t think I’ve ever hated a Yankee this much. Ever.

  376. Pat M. in Seattle July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Joba is just clueless

  377. m July 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    lol @ wanting Marte over Joba. Not that you’d be wrong. But just funny how things turn out. Eiland a little animated in that conference there.

  378. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Oops…Robertson.

  379. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    When will Girardi learn you can’t trust Joba in the 8th. Can’t do it.

  380. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Here goes Vazquez’s great start. Joba is an ABSOLUTE mess. It’s hard to watch him beat himself.

  381. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    blaming cervelli?

  382. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Joba is as Joba does..

  383. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    good night and good luck………..

  384. Chris W July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Oh God. Bases loaded.

  385. Don July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    We have the bad Joba today.

  386. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    I can’t watch

  387. EricNS July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Good Joba, Bad Joba!

  388. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    totally inconsistent. Vasquez pitched his ass of tonight and deserves some reliable follow though.

  389. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Joba missed location to the opposite side of the plate, making it difficult to get over there.

  390. Tar July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Man you people are insane. He’s trying his hardest.

  391. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Well get ready for sliders and straight fastballs.

  392. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    slider, breaking ball, slider, slider, slider, slider. Joba needs to be in AAA. The kid is 100% lost.

  393. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    now watch the FB gt hammered.

  394. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    now joba isnt going to get anything close

  395. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Say goodnight Gracie.

  396. pat July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Bad Joba :sad:

  397. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    they should have thrown Joba into the Lee deal. He effing sucks.

  398. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    holy cow!
    this one hurts

  399. Chris W July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    F*ck you Joba.

  400. Yankee44 July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Shame to waste such a great effort from Javy :(

  401. Daninphilly July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    ugh shoot me now

  402. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Oh God he stinks!!!!!!!!

  403. Daninphilly July 11th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    ugh shoot me now

  404. baseballfab July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    boom

  405. Don July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    The very bad Joba.

  406. Hurley July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Bad Joba

  407. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I want Joba out of here. He’s nothing but smoke and mirrors.

  408. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    its so predictible

  409. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I hate to keep saying it, but I’m just driving home a point.

    Mo should have pitched the 8th, Joba or D-Rob in the 9th.

    Saves are meaningless, the 8th was the bigger inning this game with the top of the lineup due up. Mo should have been in.

  410. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Joba can’t seem to find his way out of trouble. He could have gotten out of the jam with a tie game. But the implosion of Joba continues…

  411. m July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Poor Javy. :(

    IBB makes it a 3 run game.

  412. pat July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Lopez wayyyyy too much stylin

  413. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I feel awful for Javier.

  414. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    you cannot, I repeat, you cannot keep this kid as your setup man or back up closer. he is gutless……….the only one who hasn’t seen this is Joe Girardi. He is an absolute disaster. He is horrid.

  415. blackaccord July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    now.. who didnt see that coming?? We were just too greedy to hope a 1-2-3 from joba..

  416. Gateways July 11th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Piece of crap. 4th Game this jerk has lost for us. Seriously get him out of the 8th inning (maybe off this team).

  417. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Players still need to execute but Girardi-loss

  418. Donnie - Will Meet Joba Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Never again. Ever. Get him off this team. He is freaking terrible. I don’t care what we get back for him, I never want to see him pitch for this team ever again. Not in the 8th, not in the 7th, not in the 5th or 6th. Not ever.

  419. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Year of the Pitcher Grand Slam.

    Joba got the wrong memo.

  420. The Real Frank & Beans July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    gradslam, Joba has not been the same since stupid Cleveland in the playoffs. I hate cleveland more that Lebron

  421. blake July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Awesome….I stayed up til nearly 1 AM to watch Joba come in a blow the gem Javy spun tonight.

  422. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Joba has no clue how to pitch. that pitch was up and soft to pull. What a lame duck he is.

  423. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    No one should be surprised. Girardi never learns. If Joba isn’t in AAA after the all star break then the organization is a bunch of morons. He has no idea how to pitch. Let him throw sliders in the minors, he can’t help this team.

  424. DC July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Joba Sucks !

  425. web July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Wow Joba. Really?

  426. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Girardi’s stubborn insistence on using Joba in the 8th is kind of annoying.

  427. rconn23 July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Luckily, this disaster will hopefully be the end of Joba Chamberlain in the 8th inning. Good Riddance.

  428. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Game over just looking at who we have due up.

  429. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    they really need to do something on the 8th inning guy and Joba.
    Clearly Joba cannot be trusted in postseason

  430. Tom July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Joba is NOT a major league pitcher. Enough is enough, the lead in the East is far too small to be messing around with Joba.

  431. Arno July 11th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Unbelievable this guy… how many times is Joe going to keep running Joba out there in the 8th when he has not ONCE shown this season that he can handle it?!

  432. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    There it ()*&*(%% goes. Send Joba back to the minors, trade his butt away for a bag of crap, anything.

    And give Girardi a brain.

    You could see it coming a mile away.

    I am so sick of Joba and his fat rear end blowing games. I hope that the whole team shuns him till he is gone.

  433. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    I am really getting sick of watching Joe give this guy chance after chance to right himself only to watch him implode time and time again.

  434. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    I left my dad’s house an hour ago, I told him this game has a Joba blown game written all over it. If Cashman thinks this guy combined with a nicked up Rivera is a formula for a championship team he can forget it, this guy absolutelu sucks, you can’t blow every other game and keep a set up job. Go get Soria or Brandon Lyon and put Joba in mop up or in Triple a he sucks bad.

  435. cacahuete July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Didn’t see that one coming. “Just gotta tip your cap. We’ll get ‘em tomorrow, etc,etc..” Worthless, 10 cent headed, out of shape, trash.

  436. luis July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    i think joba its going to have a rather short career

  437. Nyyankspg July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Joba needs this break. He’s pitching like someone who was just called up

  438. teddy July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    send joba to triple a, or trade him

  439. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    if they come back from the all star break and he is anywhere near an important inning in a game, Girardi should be fired

  440. rob July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    i love how lopez stares at the ball……dude you guys are in last place, not to mention a 6 game losing streak..he better get a brush back from cc tomorrow…

  441. nature boy July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    how many games has he given up now? has to be at least 5.

  442. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    this is at least the 5th game he has blown for us. an effing grand slam nonetheless.

  443. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    i wonder if some team may still think joba can be their closer if we offer him in a trade. maybe a change of scenery and less pressure may work for him.

  444. Bronx Jeers July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Joba’s ERA has quickly entered Mitre Death Watch territory.

    That can’t be good.

  445. carlo July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Joker Chamberlain again. We’d be about 30 games over and 8 games clear of the wild card lead if we had anyone but this joke pitching the 8th. Any of u unhappy that we didn’t get Lee should be smart enough by now to realize that starting pitching can’t be upgraded all that much but an 8th inning guy who isn’t a complete gascan will make an enormous difference.

  446. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Disco, I’m with you. But managers are managers.

  447. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    can’t wait to hear Joba pooh pooh this one in postgame

  448. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Everyone knows that Lopez can only hit it up. He constantly makes outs when the ball is down and away….

  449. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Maybe Joba will realize now how many runs he gives up.

    Hard to even still get mad at Joba and waste time thinking about him.

    But, this is absolutely ridiculous that Girardi continues to go to him.

  450. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Joba :x

  451. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Pathetic but don’t worry GI-Joe and the Yankees will keep putting this pathetic excuse for a pitcher out there.

  452. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    This inning should of been Marte’s and or Robertson’s. You can’t keep throwing a lost duck out on the mound.

  453. franmerrf July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Cannot believe I stayed up just to see that- ugh!

  454. Jenny July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    efffing jaba.

    he blew a 1-0, 8th inning hold last week, as well.

  455. DC July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    They need to send him to AAA so he can learn how to pitch.

  456. Nyyankspg July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Joba needs some time in AAA

  457. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    I really don’t understand why Robertson hasn ‘t been giving a chance to pitch the 8th.

  458. Cookiepuss July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Another thing:

    I want Jeter moved down to seventh until he can shake this .270-.280 something funk he’s been in. Gardner leadoff and Swisher second is the best table-setting combo right now.

    Jeter better get his act together after the break or he’s looking at a two-year deal cuz no way he’s getting three years after this year, his walk year if it ends with .275 BA, .350 OBP, 12 HR, and 65 RBI. He’s already kissed four or more years goodbye.

    And with that grand-slam Joba just gave up he has cemented in my mind and I’m sure many Yankee fans minds that he is neither a viable eighth inning/setup man or heir to the closer role. No way he takes over from Mo in 201X. The Yanks need to trade him in the offseason while he still has trade value. 2007 is long gone, he did nicely last year, but it is time to move on with this guy. Get at least three pitchers with him and move on. This bullpen quite frankly needs a new arm or two if the Yanks want the best shot at repeating as World Champs. Joba’s erratic performance (great one night, trainwreck the next or out of nowhere) is unacceptable.

  459. SMK July 11th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    almost every other team is looking for bullpen help.

    what slim pickings there are will come at a high cost.

    how the hell do they find an 8th inning guy?

  460. waka flocka July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Joba Chamberlain: what happens when you ruin someone development.

  461. Joey Ramone July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    I’m really sick of Chamberlain blowing leads. He should not be out there when the game is on the line. He is simply too unreliable…

  462. Tar July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    “Girardi’s stubborn insistence on using Joba in the 8th is kind of annoying.”

    I agree with this. You structure your pen to allow you the benefit of match-ups. Than just throw it out the window because he’s your “8th inning guy”.

  463. Yankee Trader July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    I think Girardi should bring Joba to Anaheim and let him pitch in the homerun derby. Must have a brain the size of a walnut.

  464. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    get now felix gets to mow down the cupcake part of the order

  465. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Is it really possible that The Worst Case Scenario just happened? Never mind, the Yanks can make this up easily.

  466. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    And it’s not the way he has been handled by management with the starter/reliever thing or the Joba rules. He just ain’t got it between the ears.

  467. SJ44 July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    9th time this year the Yankees lose when leading after 7. Joba is the 8th inning guy.

    Do the math.

    He just can’t do the job with any level of consistency and effectiveness.

    It’s not the catchers fault. It’s not the pitching coaches fault. It’s not the offense’s fault. It’s all on Joba. Get

    Time to move on from him. Trade, demotion, whatever. He needs to be off this team or have a greatly reduced role.

    They can’t keep him in this role any longer.

    He just can’t get the job done.

  468. Bronx Born July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Pat M… what in the world is going on with Joba… I just cannot believe what has happened to him as a pitcher. Do you think he still is out of shape? I am just bewildered.

  469. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    I’m listening to the radio and they called this before the inning even started. Unbelievable. What happened to Joba Chamberlain? Where did that guy go?

  470. DC July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Joba to the NL

  471. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    we can still come back, but wow…. i love how joba can’t pitch (neither can anyone in the pen besides rivera), and girardi needs to be fired. You people are funny.

  472. Stacey July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    At the game, Joba just ruined a perfectly wonderful evening, I’m so over him….and Grandy with a good start to the 9th

  473. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    At this point, Im jumping on board with those that believe that Joba needs to be sent down to the minors to attempt to learn how to pitch again.

  474. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    JOAKIM SORIA.

    I’m gonna break you people down.

    Break you down, I will.

  475. Joev_777 July 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    It’s time to find an 8th inning setup guy. Chamberlain really blows it.

  476. lil' m July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Ouch . . . just ouch . . . poor Javy . . .

  477. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Maybe the Yankees can trade Joba to the Mariners, Joba would fit right in with it, he can blow games with the best of them.

  478. HEYDOW July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Joba is pathetic! Cant win with this guy as our eighth inninng set up man.

  479. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    on a side note, granderson is back up to .240 :)

  480. Eric July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    lol @ Cashman for trying to get Cliff Lee when we have this loser Joba pitching high leverage innings for us

  481. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    If Joba’s name was Farnsworth he wouldn’t be pitching the 8th inning anymore, plain and simple. When Farnsworth started stinking it up he was removed from the 8th inning. Joba is no longer the 07′ version and the fact that he is treated like it is disgusting.

  482. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Well put, SJ. Let’s hope they feel the same way.

  483. Matt July 11th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    why isnt Jeter pinch hitting?!

  484. DC July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Not saying that Girardi needs to be fired and it is not funny that joba sucks!

  485. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    If you’re the Yankees, you try think of a package deal for Soria

    Maybe Laird and McCallister and think of sending Joba to AAA to find himself a break, good news is the ASB is here.

    That was not a strike.

  486. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    So everyone thinks Harlan will straighten him out over the break, right? :oops:

  487. Yankee44 July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Curve at the shoulders called a strike :-P

  488. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Nice call ump….

  489. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    wow, another inconsistent call. joba ‘s was a ball but that was a strike?

  490. Matt July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    nevermind.. now hes in

  491. Benny Blanco July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    WHERE THE HELL WAS THAT!

  492. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    How is Joba any different than Farnsworth? He’s not.

  493. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    what is amazing to me is that Joba doesn’t just give up runs, he blows up games. He gives up two, three runs and turns games that could be tied with one swing into games that are out of reach. I just can’t see the justification of keeping him in this role. The “who else” line doesn’t work on me because, at this point, who would be worse really? He gives up a run almost half as many times as he gets out of a situation with the lead or tie intact.

  494. blake July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    The most telling pitch of Joba’s outing was the wild pitch in which he missed his spot by about 2 feet.

  495. SJ44 July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Nobody ruined Joba but Joba.

    The people making excuses for him are as wrong as continuing to use him in a role he consistently fails at.

    It’s all on Joba.

  496. Bingo July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    The same Robertson who blew the game against Toronto last weekend and was extremely fortunate he didn’t blow the other game a day later?

    He isin’t the answer either. He puts on a ton of baserunners. Cannot do that in high leverage situations

  497. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Trade him for a bag of balls.

  498. Matt July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Why not have Jeter for Collins?? Then Posada for Cervelli?

  499. Wang IS Taiwan July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    How many games does Girardi need to see Joba blow before he gets the fact that Joba is NOT an 8th inning guy??

    I feel bad for Javy.

  500. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Trade Joba? Who would want him?

  501. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am
    If you’re the Yankees, you try think of a package deal for Soria
    ******

    THANK YOU!

    Somebody on my side.

  502. Boss Ton July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Another great job by Joba!!!!!!!!! Ouch

    Thank you Joba. Sox stay at 5. Beckett and Bucholtz along with the all star AL starting pitcher Jon Lester. Come on strong and well rested in the second half to win the division!!!!!!!

  503. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    goooooood!!!!!

  504. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    This is so depressing………..

    It’s amazing how many chances this guy gets; how many victories is this guy going to rip away from the Yankees? They need every win they can get in this division. The pen is brutal and Joba is about the worst. Phil can be sent down and he can toil in the minors, but Joba can’t?

  505. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Great call by Barksdale, Curtis holds up nicely, ball clearly low, catchers mit hits the dirt, strike 3, please

  506. qiantom July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Does Joba care about winning and making himself better? He definitely doesn’t seem to.

  507. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Lance Barksdale had it in for us. Also took us out of an opportunistic situation with Cano up.

  508. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    just stay out of the DP Posada….

  509. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    niiiiice. Note to Posada: Please don’t overswing on the inside curveball.

  510. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    they got 2 shots

  511. Bandit July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    The 8th inning guy is not on our roster

    Stop clamoring for Robertson when he is equally as bad (check the amount of baserunners).

    Right now, I would use Marte for full innings until we can find someone better

  512. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    “Trade him for a bag of balls.”

    Trade who?

    STFU

  513. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    I’m mad at Giradi for Putting him in that situation. Man do the Yankees miss Aceves.

  514. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Too bad Mr. slider, slider , slider couldn’t limit any damage.

  515. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    “How is Joba any different than Farnsworth? He’s not.”

    ————————-

    Farnsworth is a lot better.

  516. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    The 8th inning must be addressed by trading deadline.

  517. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    i still think we can get something good for joba from an NL team….

  518. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I really don’t know what to make of Joba at this point. Just doesn’t seem to pitch with any kind of game plan. I really think the Phenom treatment he got in 07 didn’t do him any favors.

    At this point, I don’t care why he is the way he is. I just want him out of the eighth inning.

  519. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I had a feeling Joba would give it up. You can tell he didn’t have it from the start.

  520. P- July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    this umps BS calls !!!!!

  521. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Yanks demote Melky in 08 but can’t do the same to this bust Joba???

  522. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    The fault, dear Joba, is not in our stars,
    But in ourselves, that we are underlings

  523. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I want Joba sent down immediately IMMEDIATELY after this game.

    No BS from Girardi or I want his head on a platter.

  524. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Joakim Soria would be a good starter

  525. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Betsy, Your bias against Joba is laughable. :)

  526. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Kid is reaching back now…

  527. TFT July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    What should I do with my three signed Joba balls now ?

  528. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    How can Joba be a reliever when he melts down all the time? He has all the strength of a marshmallow……..I don’t want to hear how the Yankees ruined him; he stinks. This pen is going to KILL the team………

  529. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    i love the seattle announcers up in arms over that ball. like they havent benefitted from those all night.

  530. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    LOL Wait a second, Sappy Wife…………you want me to praise him? Are you out of your gourd?

  531. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Joba’s era is now 6, how much rope does this guy get. I’m convinced he was juicing when he first came up, that Joba no longer exists and the sooner the Yankees figure it out the better.

  532. Limo July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Joba is Teflon… I think Girardi/Cashman has proven this by now with how he has been handled.

    Hughes had to EARN the 8th inning spot. He started as a long man and worked his way up. Hughes also had to earn his starting spot and pitch well to maintain it.

    Joba never has to earn anything…. the organization gives him everything. Joba hasn’t been to the minors in 3 years… that is sad.

  533. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Everyone else is criticizing him, but YOU pick on me? LOL what a joke.

  534. Tar July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    This team now how bad the situation seems, always manages to bring the tying run up. They never quit

  535. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am
    I want Joba sent down immediately IMMEDIATELY after this game.

    No BS from Girardi or I want his head on a platter.

    _____

    Well since you want it, im sure it will happen since they take all their advice from the fans…

  536. Michael July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    They need to get Aardsma in this game… then anything can happen

  537. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Just send him down. See if he can get it together, make him take a few bus rides. Humble him and hope he gets it.

  538. lulz July 11th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    lol @Boss Ton

    trolling on a Yankee board when the Yanks are in 1st place and coming off a dream season.

    seriously, I’m laughing at you.

  539. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    oh my, that’s ball 4.

  540. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    and that was higher than the ball call before the slam

  541. Yankee44 July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Wow, another horrid pitch around the shoulders called a strike

  542. Chris W July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    That is such a terrible call. Brutal.

  543. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    I’ll readily admit that it is 20-20 hindsight on my part, but the Yankees should have traded Joba in the offseason when he had trade value as both a reliever and a closer. You might have been able to convince someone he was still a starter who just struggled with the Joba Rules. You certainly could have sold people on him being their next closer. Now, nothing. He has almost no value.

  544. carlo July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Boss -

    Sorry dude, beckett is toast and frankly, no intelligent yankee fan worries at all about the red sox. “The little engine that could” just isn’t very talented and worse yet, very fragile and dainty.

  545. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Can we protest this game?

  546. blake July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    That ball is up.

  547. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Embarrassing night for the ump.

  548. Bronx Jeers July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    You know generally guys with 5+ ERA’s are not EIG’s. At least not on good teams.

    Joba’s been getting by on failed promise for too long. Did he finally break the camel’s back tonight?

  549. m July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    So not a strike.

  550. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    He’s giving Felix the top and bottom of the zone, it’s hopeless

  551. Benny Blanco July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    where was that???? I hate the umps that destroy games.

  552. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    pitch was belt high, sure was a strike. posada blew it.

  553. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Limo, sad isn’t it? Everything you said is spot on.

  554. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Gardner is getting on.

  555. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    This ump is a JOKE. Calls out Colin and Posada. I guess he feels bad for the loser Mariners.

  556. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    “Yanks have no clue how to develop young pitching”

    Betsy, you don’t want to hear how the Yankees ruined him?

  557. qiantom July 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    That ump has a strike zone of the 60s!

  558. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    even with the slam this is such crap

  559. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    This game is bad BAD karma on Cashman. He tries to trade Lee because they want to ship out Vazquez and totally ignores the real problem in the pen. Vazquez pitches lights out and Joba blows it.

    PAY ATTENTION BRIAN YOU LITTLE WORM!

  560. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    is it mandatory to be absolutely horrid behind the plate to keep your job as an umpire? I mean, do they get fined for calling a consistent strikezone?

  561. Cookiepuss July 11th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    You people who are slamming Joba don’t get it:

    IT’S CASHMAN.

    This guy has pretty much gotten away with mediocre bullpens for the last 5 years.
    Basically the Yanks outhit and out-start their competition, but this may be the year where they will need to out-pen the other team.

    Cashman is an abject failure at developing relievers who actually make an impact for the Yanks with rare exceptions (Joba and Coke.) Robertson sucks as badly as Joba, don’t fool yourselves. He has never developed a reliever with staying power. The only reason he got Joba was cuz Tom Gordon decided he’d rather close for Philly than keep setting up for Mo (Joba was a compensation draft pick.) Cashman got lucky with Joba. All he’s really done is move starters to the pen and make people constantly wonder what he’s gonna do with them (start/relieve.) If I’m a starter in college or highschool, no way do I sign with the Yanks unless the signing bonus is minimum $2M cuz I know now this guy will turn me into a human yo-yo. You people ever wonder why the Yanks haven’t signed a starter worth a hill of rookie fifth starter beans since Hughes?

    Bottom line is the Yanks real need is not a starting pitcher but two new relievers including a new 8th inning/setup/backup closer man which Joba clearly is not.

    On the brightside Boston lost thus don’t gain ground on the Yanks. Girardi blew this game by not ordering Granderson to steal second with the bottom of the order up and no outs. He is another lucky idiot waiting for the homerun like Torre was. That may work with Teixiera/A-Rod/Posada up, it certainly won’t work with Curtis/Cervelli/Pena.

  562. RS July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    I’m so sick of seeing Joba blow wins for this team. After tonight, he’ll be second on the team in losses with only 1 win to go with it. What does it say to the rest of the team that Girardi keeps sending him out there to fail? If he wasn’t Joba Chamberlain he would have been buried at the end of the pecking order months ago.

    With our starting pitchers going 7+ innings nearly every night, I wish Girardi would be more creative and mix and match his relievers. Marte should have been pitching to Branyan for instance. I hate this unwavering faith in Joba. At least the 8th inning couldn’t be a more glaring spot for Cashman to try to fix.

  563. POO head July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    USE REUSABLE WATER BOTTLES!

  564. Disco July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Why do people not like Brian Cashman?

    That’s like me not liking a sandwich because they didn’t put enough hot sauce on. Still a good sandwich.

  565. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Felix at 123 on a team with 20 wins. The manager is a moron. Isn’t that why you have a closer??

  566. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    What a bummer, it would have been so nice to steal this game.

  567. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    surprised that wasnt called strike 3

  568. qiantom July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Joba and Hughes definitely didn’t get enough development in the minors. Yankees are paying for this mistake.

  569. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    next one might a changeup

  570. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    No blame for the umpire. Great pitching gets favorable calls.

  571. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    last year our pen was rated pretty high actually.

  572. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    I hate freaking G.I Joe, when will he get the freaking message. JOBA IS NO GOOD.

  573. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    might be

  574. John July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    This loss is hard to swallow. You know, I’m starting to think that they don’t demote or discipline Joba out of guilt…

  575. foobar July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    This is the 5th blown lead Joba has given up:

    1) The Kubel grand slam game vs Twins
    2) The boston blown 5-run lead game (that helped the BoSox turn around their season)
    3) May 29 Cleveland, Joba came in Yankes leading 10-6 Top of 7th, 2 runners on. It was 12-10 Cleveland by the time he left
    4) Jul 2 Toronto came in 1-0, blew Burnett’s Gem
    5) Tonight

  576. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Joba’s folly definitely juiced the comment count here.

  577. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    I can’t wait to hear the postgame when Girardi says that Joba is his 8th inning guy.

  578. Chris W July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    What a brutal game. I expected to lose this one, but not like this.

  579. m July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Hernandez just got his first World Series win. :?

  580. ac1 July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    well felix can send a thank you card to the home plate ump for saving his tail in the 9th inning.

  581. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    I have NO idea what you are talking about……..

  582. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Felix your on a dreadful team don’t get too excited. Pathetic…

  583. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    How can Joba be a reliever when he melts down all the time? He has all the strength of a marshmallow……..I don’t want to hear how the Yankees ruined him; he stinks. This pen is going to KILL the team………
    _________________________________________________________

    It’s amazing how he still has the 8th inning role with a 5+ era. Meanwhile he’s blown about 5 games this year.
    Until someone becomes a available via trade, I’d try Robertson there.

  584. Benny Blanco July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    what a joke! Yanks had that game!

  585. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    Saw a Red Sox game today for the first time in ages; every Sox player argued with strike calls throughout the game. Why do no Yankees argue strike calls?

  586. Brian July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    OMG ya……JOBA NEEDS TO BE DONE. he’s just horrible…

    and Felix Hernendez reaction, UNCALLED FOR

  587. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    this one really sucks.
    I can’t wait for the postgame interview.

  588. lil' m July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    At this point, Joba seems to have more value as a cautionary tale than anything else.

  589. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    This game is bad BAD karma on Cashman. He tries to trade Lee because they want to ship out Vazquez and totally ignores the real problem in the pen. Vazquez pitches lights out and Joba blows it.

    ————————————-

    Lee has gone 8 innings or more in 10 of his 13 starts.

    Lee is the perfect solution for Joba.

    He basically ensures Joba never sees the game.

  590. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    What a bitter loss………….Too bad Damon isn’t here to call Joba out.

  591. blake July 11th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    Send Joba to Scranton and put him in their rotation. Mediocre, inconsistent starters have more trade value than mediocre inconsistent relievers. I’m speaking from frustration but I don’t know how much longer they can allow this to go on….at the very least reduce his role until he can figure things out.

    I’m going to bed now with a sour taste in my mouth.

  592. boston jim July 11th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    A little over the top Felix? I understand he pitch great, but if joba does his job he probably loses the game. Enjoy last place felix

  593. igotid88 July 11th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    i’m just glad joba wasn’t available yesterday to ruin hughes’ win

  594. igotid88 July 11th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    i’m just glad joba wasn’t available yesterday to ruin hughes’ win

  595. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am
    If you’re the Yankees, you try think of a package deal for Soria

    Maybe Laird and McCallister and think of sending Joba to AAA to find himself a break, good news is the ASB is here.

    That was not a strike.

    ———————–

    You know it’s bad when even his fan club president is calling for him to go to AAA

  596. Chuck July 11th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    “I’m convinced he was juicing when he first came up, that Joba no longer exists and the sooner the Yankees figure it out the better.”

    100% correct.

  597. Stephen July 11th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Here we go again. It’s all the ump’s fault.

  598. cs in la July 11th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    It isn’t the loss that matters, although I feel awful for Javier.

    This has to be the last straw for Joba – Joe cant just brush this under the rug again so if anything, this has to be the tipping point for changing the EIG.

  599. Nyyankspg July 11th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Joba needs to be sent down. It’s not good when we fear him stretching in the bullpen. He keeps leaving the ball up and he’s paying for it.

  600. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    “What a bitter loss………….Too bad Damon isn’t here to call Joba out.”

    Betsy, everything you say either references Phil Hughes or mentions Phil Hughes. Try getting over your puppy love of Phil. He’s taken.

  601. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    The fact is, we don’t have Lee – our rotation is pretty good. Getting 7 innings from your starters is all you can hope for; if you can’t trust the pen to hold a 1 run lead late in the game, then that’s a real problem. Not having Lee is no excuse for the pen to be this bad……….and Joba has gotten away with murder. When has he ever had to prove himself? He was given the 8th inning role…………

  602. cameron July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Yankees left 20 on base, scored 1 run, Felix pitched 9 innings 126 pitches!

    Joba has to be trade bait in the hotstove !

  603. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 12:57 am
    I can’t wait to hear the postgame when Girardi says that Joba is his 8th inning guy.
    **********

    Fantastic. I love when he looks like Joe Isuzu.

  604. lulz July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Hernandez just got his first World Series win. :?

    —————-

    No kidding.

    “Yeah!!! We’re 35-52 and 15 games out of 1st place!!! Take that, Yankees!”

  605. Joey Ramone July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Apparently Felix Hernandez just won the world series…

    Joba needs to be sent down a couple of levels to be rebuilt. Just like Roy Halladay circa 2001…

  606. John July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    do you think Joba has the guts to stand at his locker and take the questions? Pretty sure the last time he blew a game (what was that, three days ago?) he skipped out without saying anything.
    And I swear, if I hear Girardi stand up there and make excuses for this waste, I will vomit. I am sick of soccer mom Girardi never calling this kid out. At some point, your eighth inning guy has to perform, right? I mean, saying “we need to get him right” doesn’t win ball games. Maybe Girardi should focus less on getting Joba “right” and focus more on not letting him blow up games. The kid is personally responsible for at least 5 or 6 loses this year. The fact that he has been allowed to blow that many games is absurd. If you have to do it by committe, so be it. If you have to try a different guy or two out, see if they get the job done, so be it. But, you can’t keep sending human nitrogliceron out there just because he was really good three years ago.

  607. Bronx Jeers July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    I feel bad for Pat M. Seattle’s a long way to go and watch Joba flush a great game down the toilet.

    Hopefully he’s going to tomorrow’s game as well.

  608. Frank July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    it’s one loss.
    move on.
    get em tomorrow.

  609. POO head July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    JOBA GOT A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE. HE ALWAYS OVEREACTS AND FIST PUMPS.

  610. Tar July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Goodnight all.

  611. Limo July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    So, that is the solution… get Lee because he means one less game that Joba is likely to pitch in?

    No chance that he has a high pitch count after 7?

    And what do we do when AJ and Hughes pitch? I doubt Joe is going to push Andy 8 a lot in the 2nd half either

    Just get a set up man

  612. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    I think they have to srsly think of letting Joba find himself in AAA..not trading him, not giving up on him but getting that kid back to AAA or AA’s rotation, hell it helped Lidge and that other Phillie I can’t remember that was a wife beater.

    I’d even try to get him back to pitching as a SP to get back that rythmn he did in 07′

  613. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    This game could be a god send now that Cashman can’t get enamored beating lousy teams in close games because their starters are superb. We have no bullpen and need a bat. Our lineup isn’t long enough and we struggle vs good pitchers. We never replaced Mr Brittle when he went down and it’s time too, we also need a reliever or 2 and bench help. This team as it stands cannot win in the playoffs, they are leaning too heavily on their starters and they are going to be dead by the end of the season. Get help now or bring up some guys this pen as it stands minus Rivera absolutely absolutely sucks.

  614. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    This loss is on Girardi for having no frickin clue and leaving that piece of garbage out there to blow the game. Joba needs to be gone. He has turned into Igawa.

    Hernandez didn’t deserve that win. The umpire gave him free outs tonight.

    I am so angry with the stupidity of Girardi. I am so disgusted with even seeing that fat slob’s face in pinstripes. Cashman needs to do a Farnsworth on Joba, get rid of him so Girardi can’t keep using him in any high leverage spot.

  615. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    it’s one loss. forget the past and move forward.

  616. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    People around here need to stop whining so much about the umpires. Strike 3 on Posada was a perfect belt high pitch.

    http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif

  617. William July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Tough loss, but if you’d have told me we almost won Vaz v. Hernandez 1-0 I would have never believed it anyway.

    To Rich in NJ:

    I think the reason Robertson isn’t being given a shot at the 8th is because his WHIP is something like 1.80. That’s not going to cut it any more than Joba.

    As much as it would suck in the long run, the best option for this team right now is for Hughes to go back to the 8th inning and have Mitre be the 5th starter after the break. Or trade for Farnsworth ;)

  618. OKI/DAVE July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    I get it alright. Joba thinks he has great control of his pitches and knows when and where to pitch it. Obviously he let Lopez golf that high and outside pitch. His off speed stuff is too predictable and when he’s not spotting his fast ball (on many occassions) the batters just sit on his junk. His junk is nothing but junk.

  619. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    # lulz July 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Hernandez just got his first World Series win. :?

    —————-

    No kidding.

    “Yeah!!! We’re 35-52 and 15 games out of 1st place!!! Take that, Yankees!”

    LOL, looks like this is the biggest win in his career.

  620. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    This was kind of a throwaway game on paper… and Joba threw it away. :(

  621. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Betsy, lol @ the Damon comment. Maybe he’ll text later on?

    Can you see now why the Yankees wanted Lee? I know you don’t want Phil in the pen. But as he approaches his IP limit, it’s a natural landing spot for him. And Phil is going to the pen in the (hypothetical) postseason anyway.

  622. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Look Happy, we’re talking about Joba – I’m not going to avoid referencing Phil to please you (and give me a freaking break about some crush – if you’ve read any of my posts lately, you know exactly how I feel). If you don’t like the comparison, then tell me why it is NOT interesting why Phil was sent down, why he had to prove himself, and Joba gets to keep his job. How many games is he going to blow?

  623. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    LGY July 11th, 2010 at 12:58 am
    This game is bad BAD karma on Cashman. He tries to trade Lee because they want to ship out Vazquez and totally ignores the real problem in the pen. Vazquez pitches lights out and Joba blows it.

    ————————————-

    Lee has gone 8 innings or more in 10 of his 13 starts.

    Lee is the perfect solution for Joba.

    He basically ensures Joba never sees the game.

    ************

    PUT A SOCK IN IT!

    Javy is JUST FINE.

    Lee is no more solution for this mess than Javy.

  624. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    You guys still making excuse for fat out of shape Joba?

  625. Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Cashman’s handling of Joba reminds me of James Dolan and Isiah Thomas.

    Regardless of how badly and often Isiah screwed up, Dolan did nothing

    Regardless of how many games Joba loses, Cashman continues to coddle him and keep him up here.

  626. Alex July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    The HP ump was a joke.

  627. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    I wonder if Harkey can tell in the pen when Joba doesn’t have it and can stop Girardi from putting him in.

    He’s awful. Awful. Awful. Awful.

    Javy pitched his damn heart out the day after he was in trade rumors and that slob goes out there and doesn’t even compete.

    He doesn’t deserve to wear the uniform.

    My rant isn’t about losing a game in the standings. I could care less about that.

    I’m just sick and tired of watching this ingrate and his tired bloated act on the mound.

    I don’t even care if we got rid of him and he was like an ace somewhere else.

    He’s worn out his welcome as a Yankee for me. He’s a baby and headcase.

    End of story.

  628. Yankee Trader July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    I’m sure there will be an addition to our bullpen over the All Star break, even if it’s Albaladejo, or they trade for improving Kerry Wood, who the Indians would love to dump, even if they have to eat salary. Wonder if John Smoltz can still pitch? lol

  629. Tar July 11th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    One last thing, That bad call against robbie was a game changer in my opinion.

  630. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    now the moron brigade will try to blame Girardi for this one?

  631. RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    “9th time this year the Yankees lose when leading after 7. Joba is the 8th inning guy.”

    That’s absolutely sickening. Especially for a team with a starting rotation that soaks up quality innings. One more reliable reliever besides Mo and this team would have about 5 more wins easily.

  632. Yanks 42 July 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Cashman obviously has a fondness for Joba. Maybe he feels bad about his upbringing or something

    Clearly, Joba holds a place in Cashman’s heart for some reason. It certainly isin’t baseball related.

  633. Ken July 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Frank said: “it’s one loss.
    move on.
    get em tomorrow.”

    Ditto.

    Too soon for all the hate on Joba. You guys may be luvin’ him tomorrow.

    Anyone remember how bad was Marte last year? But we don’t win the WS without him.

  634. rob July 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    The yanks should trade joba for ollie perez :]

  635. Jaba Tips his Cap July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    at least Javy is excellent tonight

  636. Yankee Dave July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    The Yanks were trying to Cliff Lee just so they could move Hughes back to the Set-up man, because JOBA SUCKS!!!

  637. Jenny July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    Job-us’ ERA is no 5.79!

  638. Dracula July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    “I wonder if Harkey can tell in the pen when Joba doesn’t have it and can stop Girardi from putting him in. ”

    The only reason Harky is even here is because he is Girardi’s best friend

    He has no credentials for anything and we saw that first hand when Eliand was gone

  639. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    M, what are you talking about ? I wanted Lee……..and I completely disagree about Phil in the pen. Sorry, Phil in the pen for 3 months would be the worst thing they could do. Are they or are they not trying to develop him as a starting pitcher? If not, then convert the guy into a permanent reliever. If so, then you skip him a start or two, let him continue to start (and continue to learn) and then, if necessary, put him in the pen late in the season. If he’s pitching well enough, then leave him in the rotation and let him start in the post-season.

  640. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    “Cashman’s handling of Joba reminds me of James Dolan and Isiah Thomas.”

    Like you wouldn’t give Dolan a pass if he had won as many rings as Cash.

  641. pat July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    jessespector Felix Hernandez is the new Brandi Chastain, apparently.

  642. Yankee Trader July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    I wonder if Harkey can tell in the pen when Joba doesn’t have it and can stop Girardi from putting him in.
    ——————————————————
    I doubt it. Harkey was of no help when Eiland was out with any of the pitching staff.

  643. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    “Betsy, lol @ the Damon comment. Maybe he’ll text later on?”

    50,000,000 PBMs can’t be wrong. :(

  644. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Joba needs to be Roy Halladayed.

    /blown game

  645. Miami Mice (remember that T shirt?) July 11th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Here comes Brian Cashman’s big move before the deadline: Jesus Montero for Arthur Rhodes who will nail down the 8th inning.

  646. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    “now the moron brigade will try to blame Girardi for this one?”

    Project much?

  647. Arno July 11th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Can’t wait to hear Joba do his best Ian Kennedy impression on the postgame interview.

  648. Counts July 11th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    This pen is going to destroy us in the 2nd half

    Joba might single handedly keep the Sox and Rays close to us

  649. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    The Yankees really are stupid with the way they are treating their investment. Joba was rushed and never developed or learned anything in the minors. What did he throw 80 innings in the minors? It doesn’t take an idiot to see he doesn’t know what he is doing out there. Slider, slider, slider the kid is lost. If the Yanks want to get anything out of him then he needs to learn in the minors now. It’s like buying a Bentley but never getting the oil changed or fixing it. What is the point? If the Yanks want to have a useful pitcher for the next 5 years then he needs to go down now and learn. He is just wasting away up here and not advancing in his development.

  650. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    Betsy, I do not know why Joba has not been sent down. Neither do you. It’s possible that the reason is that Phil was younger than Joba. We have nobody to replace Joba in the bullpen right now. Our bullpen is short as it is. I agree that something needs to change with Joba, and I am all for a demotion. What I find unnecessary is the constant comparisons between the 2 young men.

  651. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    Bring up Romulo Sanchez, he was just moved to the pen in Scranton – probably with an eye on him as a possible EIG, since he was doing well in the rotation. Then the Yanks can bring him up for the pen this year and spend the next 2 years flipping him between the pen and the rotation too.

  652. luis July 11th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    good night everyone

  653. Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Rich

    So because Cashman has a ring, he can do no wrong?

    Joba still being on the ML roster is absurd.

  654. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    It’s not just Joba, but he’s the worst culprit………..he’s earned diddly. I was being facetious about Damon, but I really wonder when the players are going to start being less tolerant of this guys act.

  655. GhettoBlaster July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Betsy- what do you mean about Damon calling out Joba?

  656. nick July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    how much longer are we going to have to see Joba’s sad act in the 8th inning role?

  657. Ken July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Lopez better get beaned tomorrow.

  658. RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    “now the moron brigade will try to blame Girardi for this one?”

    Girardi deserves a ton of blame for continuing to use Joba in the 8th inning. What has Joba done to deserve Girardi’s unwavering faith in him?

  659. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Felix Hernandez is the new Cluff Lee. Cliff Lee is the new Johan Santana. Joba is the new Kyle Farnsworth. And Ray Magnetic is the new Betsy.

    /yanksinfirstplace

  660. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    On the radio, they were talking about how Eiland explained when Joba has it and he doesn’t have it. When he has it, he’s focused and just staring at the plate.. when he doesn’t have it, he’s figiting and looking around to first, third etc.. my question would be.. if you know his tells.. why are you letting the hand play on?

    It’s one game sure.. but there are going to be more like this and they all add up.

  661. Jenny July 11th, 2010 at 1:09 am

    Flop-a is worse than Ed Whitson.

    Hopefully some fans can run Flop-a outta town, as well.

  662. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:09 am

    Blaming Cashman and Girardi is moronic.

    Joba should be able to go out there and beat the M’s for an inning.

    He wants the big money? He wants to be a big star?

    He’s pitching himself to the Newark Bears.

    As far as I’m concerned, the sooner the better.

    The only blame Girardi deserves is if he keeps playing the “I’m showing confidence” nonsense in this garbage.

    He yuks it up out in the pen all game and when his number called 50% of the time he’s unprepared and not focused to pitch.

    He’s a child who needs to be disciplined or sent to live with Uncle Scranton for awhile.

  663. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    now watch CC have to get pushed into the 8th because Joba is a joke. gonna end up totally blowing out our rotation because of this chump

  664. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Betsy,

    I know you wanted Lee, but if they got Lee I think Hughes would’ve gone to the pen (though not right away). Not the best thing for sure, but I think they’d trust him to setup Mo.

  665. XFactor July 11th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    The same David Robertson who has a 1.80 WHIP and blew 1 (almost 2) games just last weekend?

    That is like replacing Coke with Pepsi

  666. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Happy, I am not comparing them as pitchers – let others do that. I am comparing the situations. What Limo said was true – Phil had to earn his 8th inning wings and he was sent down when pitching badly. After 2008, he toiled in the minors ……..until only injury caused him to be recalled. We can not keep **** away games like this – the Yankees should have won this game.

  667. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:11 am

    “You know it’s bad when even his fan club president is calling for him to go to AAA”

    I’ve been calling for that since ST…while everybody was put him in the BP, he’ll find the McNasty fastball…I…ME…I BEEN SAYING LET HIM DO AAA FOR AWHILE..BECAUSE HE’S NOT READY!! The kid is what 23? 24? w/ how many innings of experience in the minors? he comes up here the minute he struggles you know he gets pressured..he should have been in AAA working to be a 5th SP..but we didn’t do that.

  668. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:11 am

    “So because Cashman has a ring, he can do no wrong?”

    One? He became the GM in Feb 1998. So he has four rings.

    He has done far more right than he has done wrong.

    Yes, everyone in the organization has messed up Joba including Cash, but to compare to Dolan is nutty.

  669. Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    I AM SEEEEETHING!

  670. RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    “Anyone remember how bad was Marte last year? But we don’t win the WS without him”

    Only difference is that Marte was gone most of the regular season so he couldn’t hurt the team. If Joba wants to disappear until October and then return in time to dominate in the playoffs, he’s more than welcome to. If he continues to blow wins every week, that’s not going to cut it.

  671. Doris from Rego Park July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Best tweet of the night:
    I’d sooner have Joba’s meth dealing mother or paraplegic father pitch a meaningful situation. He quite simply he sucks. #yankees

  672. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    I’m not hating on Joba, but I think we need someone more…consistent? Reliable? Too Jekyll & Hyde.

    At this point, I would take Marte over Joba.

  673. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Joba’s making me miss Kyle Farnsworth.

  674. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    “The same David Robertson who has a 1.80 WHIP and blew 1 (almost 2) games just last weekend?

    That is like replacing Coke with Pepsi”

    Roberston has a 2.82 ERA in his last 22.1 IP, so you must mean replacing Pepsi with Cocaine.

  675. John July 11th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    RS, this team would have five more wins if they had a competent eighth inning guy OR they had a manager that was worried less about some kid’s confidence and more about winning ball games and maybe mixing and matching. There is NO WAY that Joba should be the defacto eighth inning guy. Want to bring him in for a righty, or against the bottom of the order, or even let him try and get some quick outs, fine. But he should not, at this point, with his horrendous resume, be left in there in the eighth, no matter what. In this game, Marte should have been in there for the lefties. The first out Joba got was freakin lucky, with the comebacker by Ichiro. He made a nice play or its in center with no one out. Then, predictable hit on his always straight fastball, and then falling behind, and then just being a gutless wonder and throwing a meatball. The sad thing is, any Yankee fan watching that game could have written the script. If it’s to that point, there is something wrong, and he needs to be out of the eighth inning. This division is too competitive and all these games too important just to give away. You’re going to lose, but these are gut-punch games, and Joba has done that now many times.

  676. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Betsy, I agree that the Yankees cannot keep giving away games like this and that we should have won this game if not for Joba. But it’s not like Joba is not out there trying. He’s not going out there with the intent to fail. Yet you call his performance an “act”

  677. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    M, at some point the Yankees need to stop treating Phil as some kind of band-aid for the pen. He’s either a starter or he’s not. He’s supposed to be a guy they think can top their rotation for a long time; every time they stick him in the pen, they stunt his development as a starter. That is why I said they suck at developing pitchers.

  678. Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    FATSO BLEW A 1-0 LEAD ON THE FRIGGIN 4TH OF JULY, JUST 8 DAYS AGO.

  679. John July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Ok. Between the nonsense with their GM and Felix’s reaction, I am now DONE with the Mariners. Can we please just whomp them good tomorrow? Like 16-0. Thank you in advance.

  680. Blank Check July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Girardi continues to put him out there because he continues to be the best option of a bad bunch.

    Marte for full innings might be the best option at this point.

    Robertson and Park have done nothing to earn his trust.

    Gaudin and Mosely are long men.

  681. A Happy Wife is a Happy Life July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Betsy, have a good night.

  682. Miami Mice (remember that T shirt?) July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Joba is not very good at baseball.

  683. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Michelle-
    It could just be that he doesn’t have the mental makeup to be a MLB pitcher.

  684. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    If they aren’t going to send Joba back down to the level that he is pitching at, then he should only be allowed to be used in mop up roles. He should be sent down to AA, let him go back to earning nothing, maybe that would help him lose the weight as well as show him he isn’t what he thinks he is.

  685. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    “Robertson and Park have done nothing to earn his trust.”

    What does Joba have to do to lose his trust?

  686. Ken July 11th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    “I AM SEEEEETHING!”

    Have a drink and go to bed. It’s one f’n game.

  687. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    Brandon, last season you were among the many who were all over me for suggesting exactly that.

  688. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    Ghetto, Damon famously called out Phil last year in Baltimore…..I was being facetious, but much the same way players can’t be happy when their starters take them out of games early, they can’t be happy with relievers that blow their hard-fought wins-to be.

  689. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    Stop blaming the ump. And start blaming that fat slob Joba and the idiots that continue to put him out there. Joba needs to go to AA and start over he is worthless on this team.

  690. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:15 am

    Whoa. Back up the dump truck there, Rich.

    They’ve all messed up Joba? His problem is upstairs. That’s a Joba problem. The rules didn’t mess him up. Going back to the pen didn’t mess him up.

  691. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:15 am

    I can’t blame Joba he’s at the point that he’s doing what the GM and the coaching staff wants from him, he needs to be in AAA, he needs to refind himself. He can’t do that up here. It’s gonna get worse if they don’t send him down.

  692. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 1:15 am

    Just want to say that Vazquez amaziness tonight should not be lost in Joba’s crapiness.

    Hell of a job by Vazquez tonight.

  693. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 1:15 am

    Girardi continues to make excuses for Joba. Its pathetic and he sounds really stupid. Everyone has eye balls we can see how dreadful Joba’s pitches look. Girardi just said the stuff is there with Joba. Yeah ok Girardi keep telling yourself that.

  694. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    M, agreed……….Joba and only Joba is to blame for his issues.

  695. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    m

    So Joba hasn’t been jerked around since he walked off the mound with a shoulder injury in Texas?

    Have they tried to send him down the mLs? Nope.

    Have they tried to have a personal pitching coach work with him, like Aldred? Nope.

    So even granting your point, what have they done to fix it? Nothing that has worked.

  696. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    Joba would probably get blasted in AAA with the way he is pitching the past year.

    I am thinking much lower.

    Halladaying him is a long time coming.

  697. Blank Check July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    “Roberston has a 2.82 ERA in his last 22.1 IP, so you must mean replacing Pepsi with Cocaine.”

    And has allowed 35 baserunners in those 22 IP

  698. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    “Brandon, last season you were among the many who were all over me for suggesting exactly that.”

    No I wasn’t. I wanted him in AAA last season too. Everyone else wanted the BP.

  699. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    The stuff is there with Joba? Oh please……….so he throws 94-95 or whatever, so what? Plenty of pitchers do that and they stink……….I don’t expect Joe to throw Joba under the bus, but at least admit he’s concerned like he’s done for other players.

  700. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    “That is why I said they suck at developing pitchers.”

    Including Joba?

  701. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Stop making excuses for this man. STOP

  702. Mgumpher July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Girardi being Pollyanna again over Joba. I hate when he gives the “he struggled” crap instead of calling him out. It is enabling that fat piece of garbage.

  703. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Trade him to Philly so he can work with Halladay himself………….

  704. Jim July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Don’t look at Robertson’s ERA – look at the amount of baserunners he has allowed.

    Nobody who has allowed as many as he has should be pitching in high leverage situations

  705. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    “And has allowed 35 baserunners in those 22 IP”

    Allowing a ton of baserunners didn’t stop Wetteland from being a pretty good closer.

  706. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    # Blank Check July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    “Roberston has a 2.82 ERA in his last 22.1 IP, so you must mean replacing Pepsi with Cocaine.”

    And has allowed 35 baserunners in those 22 IP
    _____________________________________________

    He’s pitching out of jams. Can’t say the same for Joba.

  707. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Don’t waste your breath about them sending him down.

    They won’t.

    They’re willing to take a 50% success rate from Joba. If he’s good every other time apparently that’s good enough for the Yankees.

    Javy pitched a gem tonight. He was all heart.

    Joba stopped trying after the first batter hit his fastball for a single.

    He’s a quitter.

    This team deserves better than him.

    But Cashman and Girardi won’t get him off the roster and into the minors because his tantalizing 50% success rate is apparently good enough to keep coddling him.

    He’s mediocre. Any greatness that was in him disappeared 2 seasons ago before the shoulder injury and the endorsement dollars started pouring in.

  708. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:19 am

    qiantom July 11th, 2010 at 12:56 am
    Joba and Hughes definitely didn’t get enough development in the minors. Yankees are paying for this mistake.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, that Hughes is really undeveloped for a 24 year old pitcher with 11 wins and a mid 3.00 ERA. I wonder what another team would want him for.

    Idiot.

  709. RSM July 11th, 2010 at 1:19 am

    What a shame. Spectacular display by Vasquez! Unfortunately, Joba spit the bit (yet again). He really has done nothing to earn the eighth inning, but neither has anyone else. Joe doesn’t have any options. Cash must find help.

  710. John July 11th, 2010 at 1:19 am

    does Joe Girardi get paid more for saying stupid things? he’s human? well, thanks Joe, really appreciate that. I was under the assumption he was a Hippo, so that clears it up. Now, maybe you can find another human that doesn’t suck as much.
    Again, Girardi doesn’t want to be a MLB manager, he wants to be a soccer mom. I’m surprised he doesn’t bring snacks in a cooler. And to say only one ball was hit hard. HE’S A RELIEVER!!!!!!!!! THE POINT IS NOT TO LET ANY PITCH GET HIT HARD!!!!!! I am so sick of Joba AND Girardi. He is just going to keep running that waste out there for no other reason than he doesn’t want to hurt his feelings.

  711. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:19 am

    Nick, what are talking about? When I posted that much earlier today, it was in reference to the Yankes probably putting Phil in the pen for 3 months.

  712. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:19 am

    “Girardi continues to make excuses for Joba. Its pathetic and he sounds really stupid. Everyone has eye balls we can see how dreadful Joba’s pitches look. Girardi just said the stuff is there with Joba. Yeah ok Girardi keep telling yourself that.”

    Michelle his stuff there, his location isn’t.

  713. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:20 am

    I absolutely believe Joba should be sent down. He really needs to be able to figure out how to pitch with men on base. If it’s not a 1, then it’s really hard for him to get the 2-3.

  714. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Vazquez was a f’n beast tonight. Really rolling since May.

    F U Joba. Sorry, had to get it out.

  715. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Is Giradi freaking serious!!!! I’m done bed time. Someone needs to call out Joba apparently Joba has some disturbing pictures of GI Joe.

  716. pat July 11th, 2010 at 1:20 am

    “…every time they stick him in the pen, they stunt his development as a starter. ”

    I believe the argument could be made that his time in the pen last year accelerated his growth as a starter this year with the confidence it gave him.

  717. Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rays now only 2 back.

    Good bye Division title and home field advantage — hello wild card.

  718. William July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rich,

    Robertson’s ERA may have come down, but he’s still allowing a crap-ton of baserunners. That they aren’t scoring can not be counted on to continue.

  719. vitus July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Can we still send Joba back to 3A??

  720. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    HEY GIRARDI!

    WE KNOW YOU’RE FULL OF IT!

    YOU’RE LOSING FAITH IN JOBA!

    ADMIT IT YOU LYING SACK!

  721. RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    “M, agreed……….Joba and only Joba is to blame for his issues.”

    But it’s the manager’s fault that he allows Joba’s issues to hurt the team. Right now, sending Joba out there in the 8th inning is about as useful as batting Ramiro Pena in the cleanup spot every night.

  722. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    # Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rays now only 2 back.

    Good bye Division title and home field advantage — hello wild card.

    —————–

    You’re just as much of a quitter as Joba is.

  723. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    It’s time to give Robertson the chance and let’s see how he does. It’s not like they have a lot of options. The bullpen is dreadful. The one thing that is annoying about Cashman’s off season’s is he NEVER works on the bullpen. He looks at the roation, the offense and then he is done. Then during the season he brings up all of Scranton and hopes that someone there will bail him out. It doesn’t work like that. He has to make the bullpen more of a priority.

  724. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    “I absolutely believe Joba should be sent down. He really needs to be able to figure out how to pitch with men on base. If it’s not a 1, then it’s really hard for him to get the 2-3.”

    m

    Since he can’t send himself down, you must agree that it’s not only on Joba.

  725. EA July 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Cashman’s logic is probably the same faulty one that is used on this board

    “He has nothing to learn in AAA, he will strike out the side everytime because AAA hitters will swing away at his slider in the dirt. He has to fix his problems up here”

    That is fine and well, except when it is costing us games. We have lost 9 games after the 7th this year, so something is obviously not right.

  726. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:17 am
    “Brandon, last season you were among the many who were all over me for suggesting exactly that.”

    No I wasn’t. I wanted him in AAA last season too. Everyone else wanted the BP.

    —————–

    lol bs .. Whatever man.

  727. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    “Good bye Division title and home field advantage — hello wild card.”

    You wanna bet your balls on that one?

  728. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    William

    So you think they shouldn’t at least try Robertson in the 8th and should just stick with Joba?

  729. lil' m July 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Gotta wonder how many of these eighth-inning blown leads Girardi can stomach . . . and I really feel bad for Javy, who did absolutely everything anyone could have hoped for. SJ44′s been calling it from way back: Joba’s issues are on him. The team decision-makers on and off the field can’t be very happy with what they’ve seen from Joba this year. It’s hard to image they’re going to let this go on much longer if there are any viable alternatives available either in the minor leagues or via a trade.

  730. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Joel Sherman needs to blast Joba on the back page of the Post.

    Everyone is being just a bit too kind with this kid.

    George, if he had his wits, would have sent him down to Tampa to paint the bleachers by now.

    I know Girardi feels his patience with him will be rewarded, but there is no positive growth with this kid anymore.

    He peaked a few years ago in Fenway Park when he dueled Beckett.

    It’s all downhill from here.

  731. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Pat, that was last year; what good are 3 months in the pen going to do for him now? He needs to start…….

  732. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    The Yankees have serious bullpen problems.

  733. The Dude July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Why on earth hasn’t anyone in the sporting media investigated why the people’s champion Joba Chamberlain has lost a solid 5-7 mph since he had that shoulder injury? It’s obvious that he got hurt abd lost that special something. Why won’t anyone report it?

  734. Joba Farnsworth July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    And to say only one ball was hit hard.

    LOL Girardi seriously said that? What was he watching? Figgins smoked a line drive off a belt high meat ball in addition to the GS and not to mention Joba’s horrid control (the WP on Branyan and falling behind on Lopez) that will be glossed over in Girardi’s Pollyana post game comments

  735. don't tug on Superman's cape July 11th, 2010 at 1:24 am

    I’d just like to point out the Girardi went to Northwestern.

    The one thing the man is not is stupid.

    He’s well aware of every one Joba’s failings, but what can he do about it at this point? D-Rob hasn’t found his groove all season, and Marte sure as hell can’t handle the 8th inning solo.

  736. Tankus July 11th, 2010 at 1:24 am

    Cashman is entirely to blame

    He, and only he, has the power to send Joba down.

    That is where he needs to be. He is getting preferential treatment and costing us games and that is on the GM.

    Why blame Joba because he sucks? Why not blame the manager who keeps pitching him and the GM who thinks its OK that he blows game after game?

  737. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 1:24 am

    Betsy, what I’m talking about it the apparent inconsistency between “[the Yankees] suck at developing pitchers” and stuff like “Joba and only Joba is to blame for his issues”.

    Of course you were only referring to Phil. But Joba is also a pitcher the Yankees are supposed to be developing — no matter how you feel about him.

  738. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    “Cashman is entirely to blame”

    Fine, but even granting your point, Cash has done a lot more right than he has done wrong.

  739. William July 11th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Rich,

    No, they shouldn’t stick with Joba. They should either try someone who is pitching well in the minors, make a trade, or use Mitre.

  740. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Don’t make yourself sound like a fool and proclaim the season over because Jobs stinks.

    The Yankees are a great team and will win a boatload of games in spite of Joba.

    Tonight’s issue is Joba. Not the rest of the Yankees.

    He’s put himself on an island of suck.

    Someone needs to sink the island.

  741. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    RS, I agree – and Joe’s being ridiculously protective of him in his post-game shows. Again, he doesn’t have to trash him, but holy cow – this is ridiculous. Joe is just enabling Joba……….

  742. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    “lol bs .. Whatever man.”

    Since last season when he was throwing 90-92 mph, me and GB7 and SJ had these convos.

    I said he’d be better off pitching in Scranton. Everyone else came w/ the NYC wouldn’t like that or media would jump all over that, put him where he belongs the 8th inning to succeed Mo.

    I never, EVER EVER wanted him in that role. He should have been in AAA learning to pitch. I’VE SAID THAT FOR SOME TIME. STFU IF YOU CAN’T REMEMBER.

  743. Wang IS Taiwan July 11th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Joba’s more interested in hangin’ with his famous friends (didn’t he tell us he’s good friends with Amar’e — who CARES??) and the glitz of being a Yankee, rather than actually doing his job.

    Send him down. He could do with some humbling.

  744. RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    “There is NO WAY that Joba should be the defacto eighth inning guy. Want to bring him in for a righty, or against the bottom of the order, or even let him try and get some quick outs, fine. But he should not, at this point, with his horrendous resume, be left in there in the eighth, no matter what.”

    I completely agree. What it comes down to, is that Girardi manages Chamberlain exactly like he manages Rivera. And that’s completely unacceptable.

  745. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am
    # Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rays now only 2 back.

    Good bye Division title and home field advantage — hello wild card.

    —————–

    You’re just as much of a quitter as Joba is.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Save your breath, VBlade. That clown is a troll from that 3rd place, ass dragging team.

  746. RSM July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    What do you expect Girardi to say? I doubt he wants to keep watching Joba lose close games, but he has no reasonable options.

  747. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Joba should be sent down to the same place Brackman and Betances have learned to pitch this year.

    A place where results don’t really matter and you are evaluated on the nature of how you pitch.

    He is completely clueless on the mound.

  748. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Everyone is saying how the Yankees ruined Joba, and maybe so. But instead of Cashman and Girardi feeling bad for him and sticking with him, they have to realize something that all Yankee fans have; Joba Chamberlain simply is not good enough to be a set up man for the best team in baseball in the toughest division in baseball.

  749. William July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    To add to my own post, I don’t thing Mitre would be an ideal 8th inning guy, but if he pitches as well as he was before the injury, he could be a good stop-gap until a trade is made.

  750. Joker July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Rather than blame Joba for not being a good pitcher, blame those who control his impact on the game- the manager and general manager.

    Does Cashman even watch his team play? What the hell has he seen from Joba that warrants him still being up here?

    Like some other guy said, Cash might feel bad for Joba and his family situation and that is why he doesn’t want to punish him. What other explanation can there be? Cash himself said the pre-Texas Joba is gone, so its not like he is expecting him to become dominant again.

    Cash is giving the guy preferential treatment.

  751. stuart July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    the whiners out in force after a bad loss. so they should send joba down becuase what abeledajo or gaudan are better options??

    Joba at this point is just not that good. he is in love with the slider and when he gets behind 2 and 0 in the count and throws 97 straight it can go a long way. pedro feliz showed that in the WS last year. But maybe all you whining morons forgot.

    Cervelli needs to tell him what to throw nad not suggest, he needs to throw fastballs early in the count, slider is his out pitch but Joba is as smart as AJ….

  752. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    William

    Mitre is hurt. Robertson has pitched pretty well, and when you have his K rate you can allow more baserunners and still escape. He deserves a shot. If he fails, try someone else.

  753. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    William

    Mitre is hurt. Robertson has pitched pretty well, and when you have his K rate you can allow more baserunners and still escape. He deserves a shot. If he fails, try someone else.

  754. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    # GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am
    # Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rays now only 2 back.

    Good bye Division title and home field advantage — hello wild card.

    —————–

    You’re just as much of a quitter as Joba is.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Save your breath, VBlade. That clown is a troll from that 3rd place, ass dragging team.

    —————————–

    LOL the 3rd place team. What a laugh.

    So what do we do about Joba? I say ship him to Nurse Karloff for awhile.

  755. John July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    ever notice that ever batter has had the at bat of their life against Joba, according to Joba and Girardi? How many caps can you tip? How many times can you convince yourself that guys are just getting “lucky” but that you’re making all the “right” pitches? Maybe I am wrong, but when good pitchers make good pitches, they usually don’t end the first half with a 6 ERA and 5 blown leads, plus countless other tied or one-run games that were allowed to get out of hand. I guess Joba is just the greatest unlucky pitcher in the world. All his pitches are right where he wants them, they just happen to get hit.

  756. pat July 11th, 2010 at 1:28 am

    Betsy

    Until Cashman or Girardi instead of Sherman or Heyman say Phil is going to the pen, I wouldn’t take it serious.

  757. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:28 am

    What’s wrong with this filter? It allows double posts and eats single ones.

  758. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:28 am

    What is the difference between Joba Chamberlain and Jose Veras?

    NOTHING!

  759. BayAreaYanks July 11th, 2010 at 1:28 am

    Tough game. Vazquez has regained his confidence and command. Awesome. The starting rotation has been stellar overall.

    Joba is losing his confidence and edge. More question marks.

    The offense needs to shoulder some of the blame as well: 20 LOB. No team deserves to win a game with that type of performance.

  760. vitus July 11th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    Let’s call up Venditte and trade Joba for a bag of dirt.

  761. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    “[Girardi] has no reasonable options.”

    Joba is the worst option, maybe other than Park.

  762. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    “[Girardi] has no reasonable options.”

    Joba is the worst option, maybe other than Park.

  763. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    The Dude July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 am
    Why on earth hasn’t anyone in the sporting media investigated why the people’s champion Joba Chamberlain has lost a solid 5-7 mph since he had that shoulder injury? It’s obvious that he got hurt abd lost that special something. Why won’t anyone report it?

    ———————-

    No idea but you’re right, they’re refusing to even acknowledge that it’s dropped that much. You can’t find any young healthy pitcher that has dropped in velocity like Joba has after his injury. I think there is alot more to the story than they are telling us.

  764. Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    I’m so sick of joba. Get a SP n put Hughes in pen

  765. stuart July 11th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    anyone who thinks sergio mitre is the answer for the 8th inning needs to top taking drugs. mitre is slightly better then gauin and they both stink.

    aceves being out hurts since park has sucked.

    joba is a moron who has no clue on pitch selection and the fat boy gets spooked sometimes and the rest is history..

  766. William July 11th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Rich,

    You are right about Robertson’s K rate. I’m actually pretty high on him, but considering his location issues (which, given his stuff, are leading to all of the hits/walks) and his youth, I’m not sure putting him in a higher pressure situation would A. help the team or B. help his growth as a pitcher, at least right now.

  767. Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Joba is indefensible

  768. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Send down Joba and call up the best AA/AAA starter and stick him in the pen. Use match-ups for the 8th. Can’t hurt at this point.

  769. pat July 11th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    “Cash might feel bad for Joba and his family situation and that is why he doesn’t want to punish him. ”

    Cashman is a GM not a social worker. When a better alternative is available, a better alternative will be used.

  770. MIL July 11th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Wow, I have really no idea what Felix Hernandez just said?

  771. Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Only answer for 8 is Hughes

  772. stuart July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    20 LOB.. I slight exageration…

    BTW Hernandez is pretty good, he is not david pauley clowns…..

  773. MJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    There is no “preferential” treatment or conspiracy theory

    Joba is one of our 7 best relievers in the organization. That speaks volumes about the disappointment of guys like Melancon and co. in AAA, but that is the truth.

    Joba is one of our 7 best relievers. He is better than Park, Gaudin, Logan, Melancon, etc.

    He is far from our weak link. Send Joba down for who exactly?

    Joba is here because his performance, in respect to his peers, has warranted it.

  774. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Rich,

    Gotta say. The Yankees did screw up. By not having sending Joba down before. The free pas-ses have done more harm than good.

    There is so much pressure on Joba to succeed, I bet he can’t breathe at times out there.

    So, yes, in that sense, I do think the Yankees erred by ignoring the fact that Joba is not polished enough for the role he’s been delegated to.

  775. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am
    # GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am
    # Evan July 11th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rays now only 2 back.

    Good bye Division title and home field advantage — hello wild card.

    —————–

    You’re just as much of a quitter as Joba is.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Save your breath, VBlade. That clown is a troll from that 3rd place, ass dragging team.

    —————————–

    LOL the 3rd place team. What a laugh.

    So what do we do about Joba? I say ship him to Nurse Karloff for awhile.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    The way I felt after the game, I wasn’t sure who was getting the fuzzy end of the lollipop. It’s a cruel thing to do on both of them.

  776. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Just listened to Joba, he’s clueless in Seattle. In reviewing the 8th inning he said after Wilson’s nice piece of hitting single he handled Ichiro, Figgins got a hit and then get this he says then waliking Branyon was the right thing to do. He forgot the wild pitch and the 3 1 count before they decided to walk Branyon who by the way strikes out all the time and he should have been able to blow away. This isn’t a joke and the Yankees know Joba sucks but they have to stay positive until they get trade help and don’t act too desparate although that will be very difficult when other teams look at our pen’s era.

  777. William July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Also,

    I know Mitre is hurt, but I believe I read on here earlier that he is scheduled to rejoin the team immediately after the ASB.

  778. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:32 am

    # Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Only answer for 8 is Hughes

    —————————–

    Stick an all-star caliber starter in the bullpen, brilliant.

    Hey, let’s put CC in the 8th! I bet he’d be great!

  779. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Nick, I don’t have any personal feelings for Joba one way or the other; I only think he stinks as a pitcher.

    What inconsistencies are you talking about? The Yankees haven’t done a great job with Joba, but do I think they ruined him ? Absolutely not. Are you suggesting that I blame Joba personally but that I blame the Yankees for Phil? If so, you would know that’s not true because I have been very hard on him recently. My comment had to do with the fact that they are apparently trying to develop Phil into a top of the line starter and, IMO, they can not depend on him to save the pen. His job is to start; Cash’s job is to fix the pen without yanking the kid from the rotation.

  780. Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Please stop this send Joba to AAA crap. He’s the 2nd best arm out there. He’s not going anywhere

  781. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Why should Hughes have to suffer and go to the pen because of that fat slob?

  782. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Brandon, I don’t call you the “President of the Joba Chamberlain fan club” for no reason. I remember very well, thanks.

  783. EndlessMikeJr July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Even if Joba lost mph.He’s slider and breaking ball pitch was what made him great.Him throwing 100 mph made him unhittable.JOba isn’t Zumaya.Joba doesn’t need to throw 100 mph to be great.

    But something is wrong but it might not be his health but mental issues.He’s stuff is there he hasn’t put it together.

  784. Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    @vblade. Does CC have an innings limit?

  785. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    What you guys are failing to grasp is the Yankees are okay with a 50% success rate from Joba.

    They’ve made him think games like this just sort of happen from time to time and they’ll accept these results.

    Joba has no consequences.

    He’s a child without a parent. You see him goofing around in the pen during games. He’s an ADD victim who can’t focus.

    The Yankees are willing to accept his failure until it becomes critical.

    With a lead in the division they’ll give him more rope.

    That’s why Girardi practices from the Ian Kennedy school of post game interviews when Joba fails.

    They don’t want to scold him. They’re trying to tell him, “it’s okay baby”.

    My prediction is this is the last season we’ll see him as a Yankee.

  786. Yank1 July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    What is the difference between Joba Chamberlain and Jose Veras?

    NOTHING!

    Actually, Veras is better than this version of Joba.

  787. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Pat, you’re right………….I should have more faith in Cash that he wouldn’t have done something like that.

  788. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Maybe Cashman can trade Joba for Brian Bruney and 3 bats.

  789. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    # GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    The way I felt after the game, I wasn’t sure who was getting the fuzzy end of the lollipop. It’s a cruel thing to do on both of them.

    ——————————————-

    Ouch. I thought maybe she could scare him into throwing more quality strikes. lol

  790. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    Joba may have the second best arm, but pitching is more than just “stuff”. Common sense.

  791. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    I’d trade the POS for WIGGINTON

  792. timo July 11th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am
    “9th time this year the Yankees lose when leading after 7. Joba is the 8th inning guy.”

    That’s absolutely sickening. Especially for a team with a starting rotation that soaks up quality innings. One more reliable reliever besides Mo and this team would have about 5 more wins easily.
    ____________________________________________________

    I think you were taken in by a fake poster. Yanks have actually lost four such games: the Minny GS game, the Boston game where the 5-1 lead was lost, the Toronto game and tonight. The other game on Joba’s plate is the Cleveland game where he blew up in the 7th.

    I haven’t been a huge Joba fan but I had the opportunity to sit behind home plate at one of the Oakland games and he was popping the fastball no problem. I was much more impressed than I thought I would be. Tonight he plainly lost it mentally. Not a good quality in a reliever. Whether it’s fixable, dunno.

  793. John July 11th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    RSM, I don’t expect Girardi to slam Joba or throw him under the bus. But, at some point there has to be accountability. At some point you have to EARN your spot. Joba doesn’t have the resume to have earned a right to stink for this long, and blow this many games for the team. I don’t need Girardi screaming and hollering, but I also don’t need him making a fool out of every Yankee fan out there by saying “one ball was hit hard” or “he’s only human” or “he does the job most nights, tonight he didn’t.” The guy has been dreadful and the least Girardi can do is recognize that to a certain extent, not make it sound like people are holding Joba to some unattainable standard of excellence.

  794. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:35 am

    # Ace July 11th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    @vblade. Does CC have an innings limit?

    ————————–

    The innings limit does not make the idea less absurd.

    Unless you’re talking postseason.

  795. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 1:35 am

    MJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am
    There is no “preferential” treatment or conspiracy theory

    Joba is one of our 7 best relievers in the organization. That speaks volumes about the disappointment of guys like Melancon and co. in AAA, but that is the truth.

    Joba is one of our 7 best relievers. He is better than Park, Gaudin, Logan, Melancon, etc.

    He is far from our weak link. Send Joba down for who exactly?

    Joba is here because his performance, in respect to his peers, has warranted it.
    ________

    Joba has a 5+ ERA? Are you serious? Yankees will do much better with an 8th inning by committee. What has Joba done in Regards to his peers to be the 8th inning man? He hasn’t earn anything from his peers.

  796. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:35 am

    GLove, as I said – Joe is enabling Joba. My guess? He thinks Joba is mentally fragile and can’t handle honesty.

  797. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    G. Love,

    Maybe because we have a cushion?

    I don’t follow the other EIG. Who’s worse than Joba? Not ERA. But giving up multiple runs in the 8th?

  798. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    Girardi is DEFINITELY talking down to us regarding Joba.

    TOTAL DISRESPECT

  799. H-Town July 11th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    There are about 15 teams in the playoff hunt who are going to be hard shopping for a reliever.

    Most of the teams who are selling (Oakland, Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, Arizona, Milwaukee) have absolutely nobody in their pens that is available who we can use.

    You are going to have 15 teams fighting for a guy like Octavio Dotel.

    Getting relief help is a very shaky proposition. Oh, and there is no guarantee that some small market closer is going to come to NYC and dominate in the 8th inning. See: Farnsworth, Gagne.

  800. Brandon Awesome (From my notebook in NJ) July 11th, 2010 at 1:37 am

    “Brandon, I don’t call you the “President of the Joba Chamberlain fan club” for no reason. I remember very well, thanks.”

    E-whateva, obvs. you don’t. We’ll chat tomorrow. It is Saturday/Sunday morning.

  801. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:37 am

    Perhaps that’s why he says this stuff in public; for all we know he could be giving Joba the what-for in private.

  802. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:37 am

    Joba,

    I hope you read this blog.

    STOP EATING TWINKIES

    LOSER!

  803. BayAreaYanks July 11th, 2010 at 1:37 am

    Trade Joba. He’s been in the Yankees Organization for years now and has yet to get satisfactory results. Yeah, he’s gotten the short end of the stick playing pong between the rotation and the bullpen but he hasn’t worked great in either. Send him to an organization more willing to commit him to one or another and give us an experienced set up man.

  804. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:38 am

    This loss just stings so badly – the team is playing SO well.

  805. Jim July 11th, 2010 at 1:38 am

    We face Tampa after the break

    I shudder to think about Joba trying to protect a 1-run lead against them. We might be trailing by 6 by the time they are done with him.

  806. pat July 11th, 2010 at 1:38 am

    Until you know what is said to Joba when the TV cameras aren’t on, you have no idea if Joba is being babied.

  807. BC July 11th, 2010 at 1:39 am

    We could have swept the West Coast trip and put Boston/Tampa even more games back.

    Sigh

  808. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:40 am

    I just feel bad for Vazquez. Herculean effort from him versus Felix.

  809. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Betsy,

    That’s absolutely what it is. They know he’s fragile. He’s a child. He has no idea how he is flushing millions of dollars that he could make in his career with that arm right down the toilet.

    One night he’s going to wake up in the minor leagues and wonder what went wrong.

    He doesn’t see it coming like everyone else does.

    Joba is a cautionary tale.

    There’s no saving him. He thinks he’s made it because the hotels he stays in have marble sinks in the bathroom.

    I know it’s been said that the Yankees front office sometimes reads these threads.

    I hope they see how the fanbase has had it with their kid gloves handling of this prima donna.

    Your paying customers want to see you do something drastic with him. More of the same just ain’t working anymore.

    Maybe try to break his confidence and build him back up from there. If he doesn’t come back, what have you lost at this point?

    You couldn’t trade him for Matt Stairs right now.

  810. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 1:40 am

    How long are people going to keep saying Joba is the best option out there or the 2nd best option out there behind Mo?

    The guy has a 5.79 ERA this year and has cost the Yankees at least 6 games this year.

    He has been absolutely terrible this season.

    He can only live on his name and performance from over 2 years ago for so long.

  811. Matt July 11th, 2010 at 1:40 am

    At this point you have to stop looking at his peripherals and saying he has bad luck.

    Joba creates his own bad luck by missing his location by feet and leaving balls right out over the plate to non hitters. When you nibble nibble nibble with your slider while you have a 95+ mph fastball, you set yourself up for predictable counts in which you get burned.

    Joba has nobody to blame but himself. It’s not “bad luck” or “tough breaks,” Joba is getting smoked on pitches right down the middle. He seems to lack focus out there in the close games and lets them get away from him with sloppy pitches.

    Joba is what he is- inconsistent and unreliable. He’s been this way since last season, but they just handed him the set up role when he has earned nothing, and by not holding him accountable he continues to go out there with the same defeated mentality of throwing lots and lots of sliders and gets burned.

    Sending him to the bullpen does nothing when the problems are in his head. He doesn’t repeat his delivery, and just doesn’t understand how to pitch intelligently out there. He threw 3 sliders tonight, 2 of them starting an at bat to a .240 hitting right handed Jose Lopez, setting him up for the predictable middle of the plate fastball with the bases loaded. That’s just stupid.

    Marte and Robertson have been much better of late. Even Park, and Mitre is coming back soon. Albaladejo has been lighting it up in AAA and has apparently made a real change to his arsenal that could make him able to translate it up here. At some point you have to give everyone else a shot, and stop babying this guy. If he refuses to make the adjustment to fix his delivery and throw better pitches, then he doesn’t deserve the role.

  812. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    I’m off to bed, what a bad lost. Thanks for ruining my night fat boy. I need a drink!

  813. m July 11th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    We knew it would be a tough game to win, but excusing the loss because it was Felix doesn’t make the Joba problem go away.

  814. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    Maybe the Yankees should try Joba out as bullpen catcher…

  815. pat July 11th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    Cashman and/or Girardi have had hard conversations with Jeter, Alex and Jorge but haven’t had them with Joba? Not buying that.

    How well the conversation is absorbed is a different story.

  816. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    “How long are people going to keep saying Joba is the best option out there or the 2nd best option out there behind Mo?”

    As long as Girardi keeps using him in the 8th? ;)

  817. Nick in SF July 11th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    Ok, Betsy, you have nothing against Joba and are perfectly objective when discussing the Yanks’ development of all their young pitchers.

    My mistake.

    On the way out the door, enjoy the rest of your evenings.

  818. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    If it’s true that the front office reads this blog…

    LEAVE JAVY ALONG YOU IDIOTS

  819. Eric July 11th, 2010 at 1:44 am

    Girardi and Cashman are enabling Joba.

    If he was treated like a normal player, he would have gotten sent down months ago.

    At the very least, he would have lost his 8th inning spot.

    Everyone else under Girardi lost their high leverage roles when they lost effectiveness – Coke, Bruney, Veras, Robertson, Hawkins, Farnsworth, Edwar, Albaladejo, etc.

    Joba has had a larger sample size of sucktitude than any of them and has yet to even be demoted for a game. There is something larger at play here. They are simply not evaluating Joba based on performance.

    Joba has the 2nd most losses on the team this year and he is a reliever. We have blown 9 games when leading after 7. Yet nothing has changed. They must really like Joba as a person, more than the other relievers who sucked and got demoted/DFAd.

  820. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:44 am

    LEAVE JAVY ALONE, i meant

    Yes I am intoxicated and raging angry.

  821. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 1:45 am

    Joba is going to cost this team like 15 games this year with his flat sliders and straight fastballs. The worst part is when he doesn’t have it he gets absolutely tattooed. It’s not small innings, it’s 5 runs on 500 feet homeruns. Robertson better get a chance the next time there is a save situation. Too bad Cash won’t be able to trade for a bullpen arm since every team will ask for Hughes or Montero.

  822. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:46 am

    GLove, I agree…………..You know, as I think about it, I’ve been hard on Phil recently because I know how much potential he has and I want to see him live up to it. I do get worried about his secondary pitches, etc………However, what the hell am I doing? That is a kid that works his behind off, who never complains, who is accountable when he’s bad and dissatisfied even when he’s good (if he doesn’t think he was great). He gives thoughtful answers in post-games and not cliche’s either. What the hell am I doing criticizing him? He’s a kid you want to build a staff around. Joba? He’s a kid you want to see another team build a staff around because he’s a guy with a glass jaw and an overinflated sense of self.

  823. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:46 am

    Joba has the 2nd most losses on the team this year and he is a reliever

    ==============================

    Burnett and Vazquez have more losses than Joba.

  824. Tim July 11th, 2010 at 1:47 am

    All the psychobabble is nice, but the fact is, we are losing games because of this clown. 9 games now that we’ve lead after the 7th inning.

    Cash/Girardi catering to this clown is costing us valuable games in the standings. Sure, we are probably good enough to overcome it, but it will sting us bad in the playoffs. Unless the starter is taking the ball to MO or MO is pitching 2 innings every night.

  825. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:47 am

    LOL Ok Nick………I still have no clue what your problem is, but I guess you’re going to try and sleep it off.

  826. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:47 am

    VBlade, I’m sure that Hughes will get skipped a couple of turns with scheduled off days available and to keep Hughes sharp, they can always give him an inning from the pen. I’d really like to see the starting pitchers use their throw days as an inning of tune-up out of the pen. That may be seen as a sign of desperation to some, but, it was done all the time and Pettitte and others have always preferred it to the boring bullpens between starts.

  827. vitus July 11th, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Seriously, Joba WAS good during his debut year, but it’s long gone!! Our pan other than Mo stinks. If we want to suceed in post season, we will need a better pan. This is what need to be addressed before the trade deadline!

  828. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 1:48 am

    From RAB, Joba has an 8.71 ERA since mid May.

  829. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:49 am

    The team doesn’t NEED to trade for a bullpen arm. Robertson-Marte combo in the 8th are much better at this point.

    Dump Joba into a 6th/7th role, maybe he’ll find it there, maybe not. But he needs to stop getting into 1 run games at the very least.

  830. Banjo July 11th, 2010 at 1:49 am

    It is simply not Joba’s fault anymore. He has proven that he sucks and has no marbles, nor desire to improve. He is an out-of-shape 6 ERA relief pitcher.

    The Yankees are the ones to blame for keeping him up here. Girardi for using him, Cash for keeping him up here when others were sent down who were actually better than Joba.

  831. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    Our “pan” definitely sux.

    You’ll get no argument from me there.

  832. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    yanks could make a deal with Houston. They’re dieing to dump Berkman’s salary, it huge, $14.5m but is up at year end with a 2m buyout. It’ll cost the Yanks about $9m. They could package him with Brandon Lyon a decent set up guy. He at $5m has this yr and next yr at same money. These guys can play. Lyon right now would be our 2nd best reliever and Berkman would be a good DH. He switch hits, has a high obp, decent power, and would love to play on a winner. He’s never really been the same since microfracture surgery but in the AL with the DH he might really flourish. Houston might even pay some of his salary, maybe the $2m option. This package could be had for 2nd tier prospects and give immediate help in the pen and at DH. What does everyone think?

  833. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    # GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:47 am

    VBlade, I’m sure that Hughes will get skipped a couple of turns with scheduled off days available and to keep Hughes sharp, they can always give him an inning from the pen. I’d really like to see the starting pitchers use their throw days as an inning of tune-up out of the pen. That may be seen as a sign of desperation to some, but, it was done all the time and Pettitte and others have always preferred it to the boring bullpens between starts.

    ———————————————

    At this point, I’d take that over the Joba disaster. It’s not a terrible idea, albeit a little unconventional, and maybe a little risky depending on how many pitches the aforementioned SP’s have to throw in that one inning.

  834. Tim July 11th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    He’s a kid you want to see another team build a staff around because he’s a guy with a glass jaw and an overinflated sense of self

    Yet, the manager and GM continue to enable him by pitching him in high leverage spots and guaranteeing him job security despite the fact that he has cost us numerous games already.

  835. RS July 11th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Cashman is going to have to get creative with relief help. Maybe find a reliever who isn’t exactly dominating (because those types won’t be easily available) but has good splits againt lefties, bring him in to be a lefty specialist, and let Marte pitch complete innings. He was a closer before, so he can do it.

    Not saying that’s the best solution, but that’s just one way to go about trying to improve the pen without giving up a top prospect or taking on a lot of salary.

  836. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Betsy,

    You can’t even compare Joba and Phil in any respect anymore.

    Phil is an all star with 11 wins and a bright future.

    Joba is a couple of racial slurs away from being late career Jon Rocker.

    He’s going to bounce from team to team until he bounces out of baseball.

    It’s happening right before our eyes.

  837. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    You know it’s a bad night on the boards when idiots like Bret, Matt, Michelle (Matt’s twin sister), some fool named Eric and the trolls of teams that are in 3rd place all show up at the same time.

  838. Yanks 31 July 11th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    The Yankees don’t even seem to want to motivate him by sending him down.

    It’s like they are content with what he has become and are just accepting it now.

    I can certainly see that…. probably a collective “What’s the point?” from upper management. If he hasn’t gotten the message now, he never will.

    They probably feel a trip to Scranton won’t do much. That is the only explanation for him still being up here despite having a 9 ERA with a ton of blown saves since mid-May.

  839. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    You know what else pisses me off is that the fringe yankee fans give this clown such huge ovations when his name is announced.

  840. TheStraw July 11th, 2010 at 1:53 am

    Matt-
    The first time I’ve agreed 100% with one of your posts.

  841. Hank Hal July 11th, 2010 at 1:54 am

    Hughes is the one who strives for excellence and is a model citizen

    Yet Joba is the one who gets preferential treatment like he is a 10 yr vet and his job is in no danger.

    Does not add up.

  842. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 1:54 am

    There is no “every time they stick him in the pen” with Phil Hughes. they did not jerk him around. Last year the put him in the pen rather than send him to AAA; Hughes was happy about this. He STAYED IN THE PEN ALL YEAR. He was not in and out of the pen. He did not go back and forth between starting and relieving.

    i believe in 2008 he was got injured; he was not being “punished” for being ineffective.

    I hardly think the Yankees are ruining Phil Hughes.

    And while Joba definitely stinks half the time, he is not garbage and he does not have an “act” on the mound. He is not doing the job, but he is not trying to fail. I don’t know what they end up doing with him.

  843. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    VBlade, I’m not sure about the bullpen numbers, but, after warming up, generally about 40 pitches, of which half are thrown at full effort. SJ, Pat M or Randy could probably give the most correct answer.

  844. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    The Yankees shouldn’t go out of the system and overpay for a bullpen arm that probably won’t even work out anyway until they actually try something different with their pen.

    If they think Joba in the 8th or trade are their only options, it would be extremely shortsighted IMO.

    The trade deadline is coming up. The Yankees need to try something different to find out what they have.

    It is hard to imagine someone else would do worse than a 8.71 ERA for close to 2 months.

  845. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Mark,

    He’ll get the Farnsworth treatment shortly. He’s ruining the experience single-handedly of a lot of paying customers.

    When the crowd turns on him before he throws a pitch, then Cashman will listen and do something with his role.

    Joba still thinks he’s the toast of NY.

    He doesn’t realize he’s toast.

  846. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    The Yankees should try to trade for Cliff Lee.

  847. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:56 am

    GLove, no you can’t…….and before people complain, comparing Phil and Joba is natural because they are two young pitchers on our staff. It was ok to compare them when Joba was dominating and Phil not, but now that it’s the other way around it’s not?

    Anyway, there’s a reason why teams have asked for Phil and not Joba in trade talks. He’s just a very grounded kid who probably has a lot of respect in the clubhouse. Joba? I suspect he gets a lot of rolled eyes. I don’t mind him bouncing around in the pen – he’s allowed to have a good time – but I don’t think he takes his craft seriously and that’s the problem.

  848. E-gawa July 11th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    Brandon, if you need a reminder of where you stood last season.. You can look at the archives to your right —->

    It’s all still there lol

    What an amazing change of opinions for some people.

  849. Homer July 11th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    The difference between Boone Logan and Joba?

    Boone Logan doesn’t have a cool story attached to his name.

    Joba’s name is what is keeping him up here. Certainly not his performance.

  850. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    Betsy,

    If Joba took his craft seriously, he’d be a starting pitcher.

    That’s all you need to know about him.

  851. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 1:59 am

    Doreen, where did Phil start 2009? In AAA.

    Also, I’m sorry, but IF the Yankees intended to put Phil in the pen for 3 months (had they traded for Lee), hell yeah – I think that would have been an asinine move and I already explained why. He is a huge part of their future- he is not a band-aid for the pen anymore.

  852. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 1:59 am

    # GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    VBlade, I’m not sure about the bullpen numbers, but, after warming up, generally about 40 pitches, of which half are thrown at full effort. SJ, Pat M or Randy could probably give the most correct answer.

    ———————

    The problem is, in a real high leverage situation, the starter will have to throw some 100% intense pressure pitches, like 3-2 counts, or men on base 2-1 counts.

    Could be a factor, but it’s guys like CC or Andy, I’m sure they are knowledgeable enough to pace themselves.

    AJ, well, he can be a bit of a headcase sometimes, and Phil is young still.

  853. pistol pete July 11th, 2010 at 2:00 am

    If according to Girardi and Cashman that Joba is their best 8th inning option then we need to change things, now. This is unacceptable and I do believe Girardi that nobody is any better for the 8th. That said, either get someone up that can help or be given a shot or make a trade, it’s really simple. We can’t go on like this. Joba’s era is 6 and its July, can’t can’t keep this experiment up. The Yanks cut bait with Wang and maybe it’s time with Joba, we just can’t keep running him out there.

  854. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Oh really Green Barette?

    Well, I look forward to Albaladejo as the 8th inning guy.

    That’s right up there with Seth Fortenberry’s ROY candidacy.

    CAN’T WAIT MORON

  855. Rucker July 11th, 2010 at 2:01 am

    I don’t even see why the name Hughes has to be invoked in a conversation about Joba, they have nothing in common aside from being in their mid 20s.

    One is an all-star starter the other is a 6 ERA reliever who will be a Newark Bear in 2 years.

    It is like comparing apples to oranges at this point, and piling on Joba unnecessarily. The guy is at his lowest point ever and sinking by the day, comparing him to Hughes is just being cruel now.

  856. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:02 am

    From MLB-Rumors-R-Us, meet the Yankees new IFA catcher.

    •River Ave. Blues pas ses along a story from El Universal (Spanish link) in which Ernesto Armenteros reports that the Yankees signed 18-year-old Colombian catcher Alfredo Castellon Jr.

  857. stuart July 11th, 2010 at 2:03 am

    the comments are laughable.

    the critics here know that the yanks have coddled joba, he does not take his job sseriously, he has less trade value then mat stairs who is 40, he has not been effective at all since his first stint I think in 2007, he will neve figure it out, the yanks suck because of him, and there is no hope.

    BTW they are I think 23 games above 500 and won 6 of 7…..

  858. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:03 am

    GLove, you’re probably right. Either way, the Yankees have a problem on their hands……and yet you know he’ll get a raise in arbitration.

  859. m July 11th, 2010 at 2:03 am

    Joba was relied heavily on when Wang went down. He’s being relied heavily on since Aceves (and yes, Sergio) went down.

    That’s a lot of pressure.

    The Yankees think Joba can do it because he has “the stuff”. But at some point (and I think they have), they’ve got to recognize that he might not be ready to be the setup guy. Yes, he can setup, but can he do it more consistently?

  860. Mitch Hilligoss July 11th, 2010 at 2:04 am

    And don’t forget me too :)

  861. m July 11th, 2010 at 2:05 am

    stuart,

    We’re addressing an issue, not the record. The record is not in dispute. In fact, the record should be better, but do to various relievers they’ve blown leads from the 8th inning on.

    But anyway, we’re not unhappy with the record. Just trying to see if there’s another 8th inning option. Because, I don’t see Joba turning it around magically.

  862. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:06 am

    And Girardi will NEVER EVER put a player down in a post-game interview. I agree with pat – we don’t her what is said when the cameras are off. And I don’t want a manager who would offer up his players as just so much media fodder. It’s bad enough as it is in NY. Unless you’d prefer an Ozzie.

  863. m July 11th, 2010 at 2:07 am

    And I’ve stayed away from Joba’s blown games for the most part. But it’s more than bad luck or coincidence.

  864. canadaeh July 11th, 2010 at 2:07 am

    appreciate Girardi’s loyalty, but it seems like enough is enough, it’s time to explore some other avenues for the 8th inning man

  865. Mitch July 11th, 2010 at 2:09 am

    We had this game

    1 run lead in the 8th inning facing a weak hitting team in a big ballpark.

    Let is slip right through our fingers. Would have been huge to beat Felix and have our ace set up tomorrow and go into the break blazing hot.

    But, this should just be an eye-opener – you can only live with a pathetic pen for so long. You can hide it for a while, but it will break your heart when you have to use it.

  866. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 2:11 am

    I don’t think there’s a rational fan in here who thinks the Yankees are going to blow the season because of tonight’s loss.

    This is about Joba and his consistent failures in the role he’s been given.

    The Yankees will win the division and go far in the post season in spite of Joba.

    But someone is going to have to take this role from him.

    Melancon really is blowing his shot. People were praising him to the high heavens in here 2 years ago with words like “future closer” and he can’t even come up and help this pen.

  867. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:12 am

    Betsy

    yes he started the year in AAA. But he wasn’t bounced around between the pen and starting as you suggest. And if I recall, people were upset with the Yankees because they felt they brought him up too early (in 2007 and 2008) adn that it was the right thing at the time to have him start the 2009 season in AAA. It was for development; not punishment.

    And I don’t think the Yankees had a real idea of what they were going to do if they got Lee. Maybe Phil to the pen, maybe trade Javy. Nothing was written in stone. Nothing was “written’ at all.

    I have no idea why Joba is a different story. Except that he’s a different person/talent altogether.

  868. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 2:12 am

    At some point Cash and co have to face the fact that this is what Joba is now and move on. Let him prove that he can be trusted. The 07′ Joba is not coming back. Besides him not knowing how to pitch maybe his arm simply won’t allow him to pitch to the level that he used to. Like being consistent and pitching back to back days and 4 days a week or whatever is needed or an 8th inning guy. It’s very obvious his stuff is not close to what it used to be. Maybe his shoulder is damaged.

  869. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:13 am

    I seriously doubt that Joe Girardi is saving up all of his inside stories for a “Tell-all” book. He’ll leave that up to, oh, I don’t know…Joe Torre? I don’t think that anybody would seriously doubt girardi’s preraerations, handling of players/front office/media. I also don’t believe anyone will challenge his or Cashman’s authority, either. Physically, I doubt many players want to get into a scrap with Girardi.

  870. G. Love July 11th, 2010 at 2:14 am

    “It comes down to command,” Joe Girardi said of Chamberlain. “The stuff is there. I don’t get frustrated. I still believe in him. Most of the time he’s gotten the job done, but tonight he struggled. He’ll bounce back.”

    I don’t think there’s a rational fan among us that believes this statement, Joe.

    I give Girardi credit though. If he can sleep at night saying nonsense like that and actually believe it, he’s a saint.

  871. KPB July 11th, 2010 at 2:14 am

    Congrats to Javy for a valiant effort. He has really come around since the start of the season. To bad Hyde showed up tonight. I feel bad for him , because I know he doesn’t go out there saying “How can I blow it tonight.” Joba gives it his best, but sometimes it looks like he is rattled to easily. But, on the bright side Javy did good,Nick showed why I voted for him, and the Yanks are still in first.

  872. Brad July 11th, 2010 at 2:14 am

    It’s no longer loyalty with Girardi, it is stubbornness.

    It’s strange because Girardi has never been one to stick with an ineffective guy as his 8th inning guy. Last year – Marte didn’t get it done, he went to Bruney. Bruney didn’t get it done, he tried Coke. Coke didn’t get it done, he tried Aceves. Veras didn’t get it done, he tried Albaladejo. Robertson sucked, so he tried Bruney again. Coke was awful, so he gave Hughes a shot. Hawkins and Ohlendorf sucked, so he went to Farnsworth and Edwar/Veras. Even this year, he has treated Park, Robertson, and Marte based on how they have performed. Park pitched well, he pitched in high leverage spots. After he blew a couple of games, he went back to mop up. Same with Robertson last week.

    This is strange for Girardi because he is sticking with someone who sucks when he never has done that. It is no longer about results with this guy. The organization is giving him preferential treatment.

  873. m July 11th, 2010 at 2:15 am

    If the Yankees woke up tomorrow and said, “Phil, we need you in the pen. Can you do it?”

    He’d tell them, “Whatever you need me to do.”

    He’d go to the pen, do his job. And do it well. He wouldn’t worry about arbitration or $$$ or IP limits.

    And guess what? If there was a competition for the 5th spot in the rotation again? He’d be ready for it.

  874. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:16 am

    Anyway, I feel bad for Javy and Joba has to face him.

  875. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:17 am

    @BloggingBombers (Mark Feinsand): “Girardi: ‘As we go forward, I would like to have an 8th-inning guy … I’d like to stay with one guy. I’m going to send him back out there.’”

    ***

    Sob.

  876. pat July 11th, 2010 at 2:17 am

    Many teams have closers that are more similiar to Joba than Mo. We’ve been spoiled and often sound like it.

  877. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:17 am

    m -

    I totally agree with your last statement about Hughes.

  878. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:18 am

    The omly reason that Hughes and Chamberlain were because of injuries to the whole pitching staff. They worked so well that the decision to send them back to AAA would have been stupid….along with the media and most on this board. Now, you’re whining because “they aren’t fully developed”.

  879. Chris July 11th, 2010 at 2:18 am

    I wish Girardi would stop insulting the intelligence of all baseball fans with his ridiculous statements about Jaba. He’s either in complete denial, or he’s handing all of us a load of steaming, stinking crap.

    It’s time for Joe to realize what the rest of the world figured out a while ago: Joba ain’t the 8th inning guy. That is, if you want the Yanks to win the pennant. I’m not sure at this point whether there is an inning for Joba, although I guess he can line up with Gaudin and Chan Ho and share the few blowout games.

  880. stuart July 11th, 2010 at 2:20 am

    yes it is stubborness with girardi. he rather not make a change and loss just to piss off morons who blog here!!!!!!!

    I am one who thought Melancon can be of value but sportsfans presently he is not. FOr all you einsteins who are not aware of this bullpen’s are the most variable part of all baseball teams. for some reason Joba is having a tough time but some of the suggestions are laughable. Mitre, logan, etc.. Mitre is a hasbeen, logan throws the ball straighter then joba.. brandon lyon of the stros, right ask jim leyland about him when it matters!!!

    chill out, they will figure it out and BTW Joba is stupid so the catcher does need to direct him, hi is a fatter version of the pie guy, they both are your standard meathead ballplayers…AJ can’t figure it out at 32 with 2 pitches yet…….

  881. KPB July 11th, 2010 at 2:25 am

    GB7

    I’ve heard a lot about innings limits lately. What happens when a pitcher reaches the limit? Do they sit on the bench for the rest of the season or do they continue in the pen?

  882. Pepitone July 11th, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Well, well, the Yanks win 7 straight, then lose ONE game, and the boo birds are out in force.

    And since there is a clear villian (Joba Chamberlain for giving up the grand salami) it is much easier to find someone to boo; “trade the bum for a sack of balls,” “send the fat boy back to triple A,” “Girardi’s an idiot for putting him out there,” “this is all on Cashman,” yada yada yada.

    I don’t know what is the problem with the guy, and I can appreciate all the psychologizing going on on this blog, but the fact of the matter is none of us know what is really going on in that clubhouse, or between Chamberlains ears. I also am fed up with the “fat ass” comments. The guy is a major league baseball pitcher, he’s in better shape than 95% of the posters on this blog.

    The Yankees lost a tough game, and Chamberlain took a tough loss, but get used to it boys and girls, there will be lots of tough losses before this season is over, and you know what, it won’t matter one whit because the Yankees will still win another WS trophy.

    And you can take that to the bank.

  883. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:30 am

    What part of Brandon Lyon is worth $13.5 mil through 2012 for a middle relief pitcher that has one and a half decent to good years? Jesus…even Arizona didn’t want him.

  884. BIG AL July 11th, 2010 at 7:37 am

    After watching how the game ended this morning, I wanted to get on the blog and blast Joba, like everyone else. After giving it so thought, I realized Joba is not at fault for his performance, the Yankees management, fans and media are to blame.
    Yes, we all put Joba on a pedestal in 2007, he was the next coming, but, he was a kid with just 80 innings of work in the minor leagues. He was rushed to the ML, had early success, and his development as a pitcher, and a man stopped. Joba is still a kid, he is about the same age as Phil Hughes, but, Phil is a very mature individual, Joba is not.
    Joba cannot deal with adversity, therefore, he is not suited for the 8th inning role, and keeping him there will only serve to hurt any chance of him developing into a good pitcher.
    Roy Halladay was in a similar position early in his career, and he was sent down to learn how to be a pitcher, and was told, this is your last, and only chance, so make the best of it. It’s obvious today, he did just that.
    Girardi and Cashman, by putting Joba in the 8th inning role, are setting him up for failure, no different than putting Pena in the 4 slot, and expecting him to perform at the level A-Rod does, it will not happen. Yes, Pena may have some good games, 2/3 or ¾, but those games will be the exception, not the rule.
    If the Yankees want Joba to be a part of this team going forward, they need to send him down to work on being a pitcher, and not a thrower. He needs to regain the confidence he had in 2007, before he can be successful again.
    Those that say he’s lost MPH off his FB, are not watching the same guy I’m seeing, he’s still throwing in the high 90’s, but straight, so he’s very hittable.
    I don’t think we have to go outside for relief help. Albaladejo has been lights out in Scranton, and he is not the same pitcher that was in NY before, he deserves another chance. Also, Nova and others that are pitching well, could help this year in the bullpen, it’s worth a try.

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