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Postgame notes: “I’m going to send him back out there.”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Jul 11, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Just as you probably expected, Joe Girardi said he plans to stick with Joba Chamberlain as his eighth-inning reliever. Tonight was one of the low points for Chamberlain — two singles and a game-winning grand slam — but Girardi said, “I’m going to send him back out there, that’s what I’m going to do.”

Chamberlain was consistently 96 to 97 mph with his fastball. GameDay had his last pitch to Chone Figgins at 99. As Girardi said, the stuff was there, but Chamberlain’s command has gotten him into trouble time and again this season. After missing with back-to-back sliders, the grand slam pitch to Jose Lopez was a fastball up in the zone. It was supposed to be down and away.

“I missed a spot,” Chamberlain said. “A lot.”

With a one-run lead and Felix Hernandez dealing, there was no room for a missed spot like that. It was especially brutal given the seven brilliant innings from Javier Vazquez.

“I definitely let Javy down,” Chamberlain said. “It’s tremendous the way he went out and pitched and got himself out of jams. He continues to pitch better, and that’s a good sign for us. I’ve got to go out there and protect that one-run lead for all the good work he did.”

Here’s Chamberlain talking after the game.

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Yankees Mariners Baseball• Can’t say enough about Vazquez. “His changeup was dynamite tonight, and he threw a lot of them,” Girardi said. “I thought he located his fastball good. I thought that’s as good as he’s thrown for us all year.”

• In the seventh inning, Girardi had Damaso Marte ready in the bullpen, but he let Vazquez pitch to Milton Bradley with the bases loaded. “I want to see him finish it if he can,” Girardi said.

• Speaking of that at-bat, it was a nice play by Ramiro Pena that ended it without the ball falling for a single. “I had jammed him and I thought it was going to drop in there,” Vazquez said. “When I saw Pena there, kind of under it a little bit, I was relieved.”

• No-hitter though 5.2 innings. “Sincerely, with all my heart, I never think no-hitter,” Vazquez said.

• Ichiro’s sixth-inning single hit Vazquez in the inner thigh. He said it caught all leg, no glove, but he wasn’t hurt.

• On the day he was named to the Home Run Derby, Nick Swisher hit his 15th home run of the season. He’s now hitting .435 with two homers and four doubles during this road trip.

• Mark Teixeira has now reached base in 31 consecutive games. He has a hit in 26 of his past 30. This was his 21st multi-hit game of the season.

• The loss snapped a season-high seven-game winning streak.

• Felix Hernandez pitched his third straight complete game against the Yankees (9/18/09, 6/30/10, 7/10/10). He’s the first pitcher to do that against the Yankees since Jaime Navarro in 1990-91.

Associated Press photos of Chamberlain and Vazquez.

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337 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I’m going to send him back out there.””

  1. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 2:19 am

    Go ahead Joe G, keep having him blow games.

  2. Wang IS Taiwan July 11th, 2010 at 2:19 am

    Joe’s a freakin’ donkey.

  3. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:19 am

    UGH.

  4. m July 11th, 2010 at 2:20 am

    lol, Betsy.

    Double sob.

    I don’t believe a word he says. I’ve seen this movie before. Joba messes up, Girardi goes away from him. Let’s him out of the doghouse.

    I think Cashman’s going to fix the problem.

    Can’t keep giving away games.

  5. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:20 am

    I’m not one to knock management, but when is enough, enough?

  6. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 2:21 am

    I hope stubbornness isn’t a terminal disease.

  7. Brad July 11th, 2010 at 2:21 am

    I guess Girardi wants to give Rays and Red Sox fans an early Christmas present

  8. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 2:21 am

    8.71 ERA and a -0.686 WPA since mid-May

    That’s the 8th inning guy folks.

  9. WMD July 11th, 2010 at 2:22 am

    Joba sucks ass

  10. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:23 am

    Sob.

    Doreen, I don’t mean that Phil has been yanked between the rotation and the pen within the year. What I’m saying is that they made a committment to him as a starter and they need to let him start; sticking him in the pen for 3 months does absolutely nothing for his development. I have a sick feeling that if the pen doesn’t improve, Phil is going to be removed from the rotation anyway and used as band-aid for the pen. I suspect Mitre would be used as the #5 guy.

    In 2007, Phil was definitely rushed; I do think he earned the chance in 2008 – but he was hurt. I’m not suggesting they started him in AAA in 2009 as a punishment, but what I’m saying is if Phil could be sent to the minors, than so could Joba.

    Back to Joe – unbelievable. So, he’d rather have a sucky 8th inning guy than a win?

  11. RC July 11th, 2010 at 2:23 am

    Just going to have to continue to win inspite of Joba

    The offense has to know – they HAVE to tack on runs every chance to get. Joba has already blown multiple 4-run leads this season as well, so no lead is safe with him.

    When they have a lead late, they have to treat it as if it is a tie game and they are trying to scratch across a couple runs.

    Sad that this is what it has come to, but the offense has to cooperate to make up for Joba’s ineptitude.

  12. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 2:23 am

    ugh. post got eaten.

    This is the jist.

    The Yankees have to I believe August 7th to send Joba down. After that he would have to clear waivers which is extremely unlikely.

    Less than a month to go and after that any talk of sending Joba to the minors will be pointless.

  13. Cando July 11th, 2010 at 2:25 am

    Girardi has now put the ball in Cashman’s court.

    Either get me an 8th inning guy in a trade or send this guy down. Both would be preferable.

    If Cash doesn’t want Girardi to use Joba, all he has to do is send him down, which should have been done a looonnnnggg time ago

    If he is up here after the ASB, it shows that they are happy with Joba and feel he is the best option. No other reason for him to be up here after the first half he has had.

  14. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:26 am

    To Joba proof a game, it has to be beyond a grand slam.

    If he’s coming into a game, have at least a 5 run lead.

  15. ,,,,, July 11th, 2010 at 2:26 am

    Ok so they reach base, when the hell are they going to start scoring once they are on base.

  16. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:27 am

    M, Cash is smart and I know he realizes the pen needs fixing…………but Cash can’t fix Joe’s fixation with Joba.

  17. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 2:28 am

    Eventually the Yankees have to decide what they want to do with Joba. Shame really how the guy went from being the top pitching prospect in baseball to being a guy who can’t pitch.

    I definitely feel he needs to be sent to A ball and built back up. He has great stuff when he’s on and he has to learn how to harness it. I’m certainly not willing to give up on him. I just think he needs to learn HOW to pitch.

    Joba probably didn’t spend enough time in the minors and that’s his biggest problem. Send Joba to A ball, give him the halladay treatment ant let’s see what happens.

  18. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:28 am

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:27 am

    M, Cash is smart and I know he realizes the pen needs fixing…………but Cash can’t fix Joe’s fixation with Joba.

    ——————————–

    Onus is now on Cash to get an EIG type and tell Joe, THIS is your EIG. Don’t use the Gas Can anymore.

    A few years ago, I called Farns “Gas Can Farnsworth”. I think the nickname now has a worthy heir.

  19. Outlawz July 11th, 2010 at 2:29 am

    Would have been nice to have Lee tonight

    As great as Vazquez has been, Lee is as sure a bet to complete the game as anyone. If we had him today, chances are, Joba doesn’t touch this game.

    Then again, we would have this problem when AJ and Hughes pitch because they rarely, if ever, go past 7 anyway. Still, one less game where Joba could be a factor

  20. Charlie July 11th, 2010 at 2:29 am

    Cano, give me a break. I’m wondering which team you want to steal an eighth inning guy from, or do they grow on trees? The Yankees are concerned about Joba, but he is still their best option. When he isn’t he will be demoted. You don’t have a very good pulse on the team.

  21. KPB July 11th, 2010 at 2:29 am

    GB7

    I’ve heard a lot about innings limits lately. What happens when a pitcher reaches the limit? Does he sit on the bench for the rest of the season or does he go to the pen and keep pitching?

  22. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Betsy -

    I believe they are committed to Phil as a starter. IF he goes to the pen, it will be because of innings limits, but I don’t think they’ll handle it that way. Lee isn’t here, so it’s counterproductive to think about what might have happened. There is no other “Lee” on the market that would entice the Yankees, I think.

    I’ve said before I think Joba needs to go to the minors to get him back on track, so we don’t disagree there. But I do understand that Wang’s injury last season probably had a lot to do with what transpired with Joba; it had a lot to do with a few things.

    Joe can only use what he has and as ineffective as Joba has been, he’s also been effective. His velocity seems to have improved. If there was a better alternative, I think they’d go there, but there isn’t. And I think pat said in an earlier post that what we have in Joba is more akin to what many other teams have in their closers and we’ve been spoiled immensely by the near perfection of Mo.

    It’s frustrating. Especially because when Joba blows a save, he REALLY blows a save.

  23. Wang IS Taiwan July 11th, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Girardi is ALWAYS right. Can’t stand him when he’s such an idiot.

  24. Joe July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    “but Cash can’t fix Joe’s fixation with Joba.”

    Yes he can, by sending him down, which should have been done months ago.

    Cashman is agreeing with Girardi’s evaluation. No other reason why a reliever with a 6 ERA, who has the 2nd most losses of ANYONE on the whole pitching staff, and a 8 ERA over the past 2 months, is still up here.

    If anyone else had put up those numbers, they would have been sent down or released weeks ago.

  25. Chris July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Chad, can you please explain what “stuff” is? Is it simply fastball velocity?

    Stuff obviously doesn’t mean “command”; it doesn’t even mean control. It’s not a good breaking ball. It’s not the ability to focus when the game situation requires it. It’s not keeping your composure when things are going badly. It’s not the ability to figure out what pitch to throw when one of ‘em isn’t working. It’s not even having good movement on your fastball.

    So, “stuff”, apparently, is 99 mph on a fast gun. Big fricking deal. Who cares? Having “stuff” really means nothing, without all the rest of it.

  26. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Vblade, Cash is not going to tell Joe how to manage his team……..

  27. Zolio July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    “but Cash can’t fix Joe’s fixation with Joba.”

    Of course he can – Send him to AAA, which his performance absolutely warrants.

  28. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Charlie July 11th, 2010 at 2:29 am
    Cano, give me a break. I’m wondering which team you want to steal an eighth inning guy from, or do they grow on trees? The Yankees are concerned about Joba, but he is still their best option. When he isn’t he will be demoted. You don’t have a very good pulse on the team.
    __

    8.72 ERA since May is there best option?

  29. Mark- Can't touch this. July 11th, 2010 at 2:33 am

    Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am
    Vblade, Cash is not going to tell Joe how to manage his team……..
    _______

    when Joba is blowing leads against tampa he better start.

  30. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 2:33 am

    This game has nothing to do with the Yanks not acquiring Lee. If the Yanks can’t win a game up 1-0 in the eigth inning then they don’t deserve to win.

    Javy pitched a hell of a game

  31. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:33 am

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Vblade, Cash is not going to tell Joe how to manage his team……..

    ——————–

    No problem if the Gas Can is in AAA. THAT, Cashman can do.

  32. Ash July 11th, 2010 at 2:35 am

    They must feel that a demotion of any kind would damage Joba’s psyche.

    Not only has he not gotten sent down, he is still the EIG. That shows us that they are afraid to do anything that might upset him.

    Nobody else who has done what he has since May would still be on the roster, no one. Cash would have released/DFAd/optioned someone who was that bad a long time ago. Cash has never given someone this long to suck without pulling the cord.

  33. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:35 am

    Maybe when Joba’s ERA is in double digits, they’ll FINALLY demote him.

    Between now and then, he might cost the Yankees a couple more wins as a bonus.

  34. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:35 am

    Doreen, if Phil goes to the pen late in September, I’ve no problem with it. My problem would have been if he’d been sent there for 3 months. If they were that concerned about innings limits, then Phil shouldn’t have had the chance to win the spot; he should have been sent to AAA to start. That said, they’ve said all along that his innings limits are not that severe. He’s at about 100 innings – all they have to do is skip him a start or two. I do think there is a possibility that they move Phil to the pen and let Mitre start………..but I won’t even think about that now because that would really get my goat.

    Try Robertson (who I know hasn’t been good, but at least he’s not Joba for now)…….try anyone. Joba’s velocity may be back, but MLB hitters can tattoo a straight FB. He’s just not very good right now.

  35. Wang IS Taiwan July 11th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    In fact, Cash has told his manager how the pitchers will be used…e.g., Joba Rules with Torre.

  36. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    Yep. Joba certainly needs to be in the minors. But not AAA, he needs to be sent to A ball til he learns how to pitch

  37. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    AAA isn’t going to help Joba. He needs to be sent to A ball.

  38. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    There are two problems with regard to ‘fixing the pen”:

    1) The performances of relievers are more variable than that of any other position, so it’s hard to predict how well virtually any reliever will be.

    2) The Yankees will probably have to overpay, and I would rather lose than give up very good prospects for a reliever.

  39. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:37 am

    Girardi’s trying to push Joba’s ERA to 10.0

    Vote of confidence.

  40. XCD July 11th, 2010 at 2:37 am

    Girardi doesn’t have the power to send Joba to the minors

    That is Cashman’s call, one that he should have made 2 months ago.

    He is just as much to blame as Girardi. Every other youngster who has not gotten it done has been sent down in the past. Not Joba. He gets unlimited chances to screw up and his roster spot is never in jeopardy.

  41. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 2:38 am

    “In fact, Cash has told his manager how the pitchers will be used…e.g., Joba Rules with Torre.”

    I think it’s apparent that Cashman didn’t trust Torre’s bullpen management. Rightly or wrongly, he trusts Girardi.

  42. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:38 am

    Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    2) The Yankees will probably have to overpay, and I would rather lose than give up very good prospects for a reliever.

    *********

    I would rather overpay than lose as long as it’s not a gross, unreasonable price.

  43. raymagnetic July 11th, 2010 at 2:38 am

    I’m sick of hearing bout Highes. Hughes isn’t a problem at all.

    Betsy get over your psychotic fixation with Hughes.

  44. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:39 am

    If this gutless performance doesn’t knock Joba out of the EIG role, I’m afraid nothing will.

    Pretty ironic how the Yankees say their priority is winning ballgames yet leave someone who has failed time and time again in an important and difference-making role.

    It’s baffling.

  45. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:39 am

    KPB July 11th, 2010 at 2:25 am
    GB7

    I’ve heard a lot about innings limits lately. What happens when a pitcher reaches the limit? Do they sit on the bench for the rest of the season or do they continue in the pen?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    They’ll have games with a 6-7 run lead early and take him out after 5-6 innings, he’ll get skipped a start or two and pick up an inning or two in the pen.

    He still has at least 80 innings to pitch this year. About 12 starts, averaging 6-7 innings a piece. In the post season, there will be no limits.

  46. Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 2:39 am

    Bret

    Soria! ;)

  47. Jim July 11th, 2010 at 2:40 am

    Cash has watched this trainwreck unfold and hasn’t done anything to save it. Is he happy that his once prized prospect is now a 6 ERA middle reliever?

    By not sending him down, Cash is saying he is content with what Joba is, and that is very sad. They are not even attempting to challenge or even fix him. It’s like they are putting the onus on him to motivate himself and turn it around, even if we lose games in the process.

    Cash has to stop being stubborn and send the guy down.

  48. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:41 am

    # Rich in NJ July 11th, 2010 at 2:39 am

    Bret

    Soria! ;)

    ———————–

    Sadly for Bret and all the Sorianatics, he will likely command a Montero-sized price.

    So will have to pass on that.

  49. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:41 am

    Rich,

    Not nice to taunt.

    :lol:

  50. Al July 11th, 2010 at 2:42 am

    Rich,

    Not to mention, the teams who are seemingly sellers have nothing that will interest us.

    The only suggestions people have talked about are pipe dreams like Soria or White Sox relievers (who won’t be going anywhere now that they are 1 gm back of 1st place)

    The Octavio Dotels of the world won’t save us. The supply/demand ratio for relievers is extremely one-sided. There are about 15 teams who will be chasing relievers and there are only a couple of good ones out there that can legitimately help us.

  51. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:43 am

    As long as Hughes stays effective and healthy, he has plenty of innings and starts to get to 20 wins, as does Pettitte and Sabathia. He’s not getting shut down on September 1st.

  52. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:43 am

    Yeah, whatever Ray – you tell me where I said Phil was a problem.

    Thanks for your advice, DOCTOR………where’d you get your degree? Watching the Bob Newhart show?

  53. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:43 am

    It’s also unfair to say Cashman is doing nothing. We don’t know if Cashman is trying to work on something, but since that’s his job, I have to believe he’s constantly seeing the holes and trying to plug them. I mean, you’ve heard the guy speak, right? Looked at his tired face? I don’t think he sleeps and I’m sure he’s (and Girardi for that matter) are not very happy with tonight’s result. Girardi knows every number there is to know. But you can only work with what you have at the time.

  54. KPB July 11th, 2010 at 2:44 am

    GB7

    Thanks. Was wondering how it would work.

  55. S.A.--Serenity Now July 11th, 2010 at 2:44 am

    I’m confused: Where/why is this”sticking Phil in the pen for 3 months” stuff coming from? He’s gonna remain in the starting rotation. As he gets closer to his innings limit(septemberish) then I could see the yankees maybe putting him in the pen. But for now he is in the rotation and doing well.

    I don’t even know what to say about Joba anymore.

  56. vtred July 11th, 2010 at 2:45 am

    Cashman has taken away Girardi’s toys before – Farnsworth, Veras, Edwar, Albaladejo, Bruney, etc. and he can do it again.

    He can’t tell Joe how to use his pen, but he can remove ineffective options so that Joe doesn’t get tempted to use them

    And right now, Joba is the worst arm in the pen since May. Yes, even worse than Park/Gaudin.

  57. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:45 am

    S.A……..I mentioned it earlier today because that apparently was the plan had they acquired Lee…………

  58. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:46 am

    I can’t imagine how the vets on this team, guys like Posada and Jeter are taking this as they watch Joba cough up precious wins and keep his spot on the pecking order.

    I’d want to kill him.

  59. Billy M July 11th, 2010 at 2:47 am

    I think both Cashman and Girardi are handling Joba with kid gloves (some may say coddling) because they both know they screwed him big time last year, what with the Joba rules, skipped starts, 3-inning limitations and the like. They are either feeling guilty or, more likely, unwilling to admit they screwed him last year and thus are forced to pretend that everything is ok with Joba.

  60. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 2:47 am

    “It’s also unfair to say Cashman is doing nothing.”

    —————————————

    I don’t want to make this comment sound like I am bashing Cashman, because I very much like Cash as a GM.

    But, in a way Cashman has basically done nothing with this BP. He handles promotions/demotions.

    This bullpen has basically stayed fully in tact since the beginning of the season except for injuries where he was forced to make a move.

    Considering how poorly some of these guys are performing moves should be made. And I am not talking about trades.

    I was not a fan of Albie in the past, but he has to be better than a 8+ ERA.

    I would call up Albaledejo, Nova, and even consider Noesi later in the season after he gets more innings secured for 2010.

  61. David Lee July 11th, 2010 at 2:48 am

    G. Love – For a nobody, you make a lot of bold statements regarding Joba. Joba is toast? Joba this, Joba that. Joba doesn’t work hard enough? Joba is a failure? Joba will never get any better? When you actually have real information regarding Joba Chamberlain and his work ethic and his future, then spew your vitriol towards him. Until then…

  62. KPB July 11th, 2010 at 2:49 am

    Doreen

    I agree Cash is working hard at improving this team. Just look at yesterday, we don’t need Lee but it sure improves the team. So, I have know doubt he will(is) be working on other things.

  63. Banks July 11th, 2010 at 2:49 am

    Cashman deserves criticism that Joba is still on the roster, regardless of how poorly he performs.

    There are seemingly no consequences for when he blows games. He keeps his roster spot and big league salary. He is hurting the team being up here and is going backwards, not forwards.

    There is no reason for him to still be up here.

  64. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:49 am

    David,

    If tonight doesn’t count for real information then you have a severe information block in your brain.

  65. RS July 11th, 2010 at 2:50 am

    I don’t necessarily have a problem with Girardi letting Joba start the eighth inning. What bothers me is that he has such a long leash. Joba basically gets treated like Mariano. When he puts runners on base and his command is way off, Girardi will leave him in regardless. It’s like the 8th inning is sacred and belongs only to Joba, and no one else can touch it.

    Part of the reason Joba implodes so much is because Girardi always wants him to finish innings, even when he has nothing that day. The only time he ever gets pulled mid-inning is when Girardi gets desperate and goes to Mo for a 4 or 5 out save. Case in point, I believe it is Adam Lind who has ridiculously good numbers off Joba and the YES announcers mention it every time we see that matchup. Yet Girardi never goes to Marte or Robertson to face Lind…he didn’t call on Marte to face Branyan tonight, or Robertson to face Lopez. Joba gets to continue pitching even if his command is off, he’s getting tatooed, and the matchups are heavily against him. Just because it’s the 8th inning and he’s the proclaimed EIG.

  66. Pepitone July 11th, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Well, well, the Yanks win 7 straight, then lose ONE game, and the boo birds are out in force.

    And since there is a clear villian (Joba Chamberlain for giving up the grand salami) it is much easier to find someone to boo; “trade the bum for a sack of balls,” “send the fat boy back to triple A,” “Girardi’s an idiot for putting him out there,” “this is all on Cashman,” yada yada yada.

    I don’t know what is the problem with the guy, and I can appreciate all the psychologizing going on on this blog, but the fact of the matter is none of us know what is really going on in that clubhouse, or between Chamberlains ears. I also am fed up with the “fat ass” comments. The guy is a major league baseball pitcher, he’s in better shape than 95% of the posters on this blog.

    The Yankees lost a tough game, and Chamberlain took a tough loss, but get used to it boys and girls, there will be lots of tough losses before this season is over, and you know what, it won’t matter one whit because the Yankees will still win another WS trophy.

    And you can take that to the bank.

  67. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 2:50 am

    LGY, that’s what I would do…………I think the fact that the Yankes are in first almost hurts the case for touching the pen; it’s almost like the Yankees think the pen working itself out is inevitable. It’s not. The reason why the pen as revamped last year was because it was costing us games AND we were struggling as a team. I hope Cash realizes that this pen could cost us dearly – it could cost us a division title and it could cost us in the playoffs.

  68. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Last month, stats against:

    Reliever A: .289/.347/.489/.836

    Reliever B: .306/.390/.389/.779

    One is in a mop up role and not being used except when behind, or with at least a 4 run cushion.

    The other is the EIG and keeps getting used in high leverage situations and one-run games.

  69. m July 11th, 2010 at 2:51 am

    I don’t think they think Joba’s psyche is fragile. Either they don’t have other options or they think Joba will get back in the old DeLorean and go back to 07/08 before his next appearance.

    But what’s it doing to Joba’s psyche with each blown game? You know he feels bad about letting the team down. Stop putting him in the position to fail like that. If he can block out these losses (like every good athlete should), then he can handle a trip to the minors. Get him to work on his command and pitching with men on base.

    Hughes had the same problem of pitching with men on base in his failed debut as a major league starter. They sent him down, he worked on it. And he improved, even if it was just a little progress before the baptism by fire in the bullpen.

    That wild pitch tonight? Way off target. We’re talking A.J.-ville. Not hating Joba, but something needs to happen.

  70. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 2:52 am

    One of the most baffling things about tonight is that Joe Girardi can acknowledge that he saw Joba had no command tonight basically from the beginning and just sit there and watch the game explode in his face.

    If you know he has no command, why leave him out there?

    Almost every time Joba blows the game you can see it from a mile away.

  71. Joe July 11th, 2010 at 2:52 am

    LGY,

    Bingo.

    By this time last year, the pen makeup was completely different than it was on opening day

    Veras, Edwar, Albaladejo were gone, Hughes, Tomko, Robertson, Aceves were up here. 3 of them became mainstays in the pen

    Cash hasn’t even tried anything new with the pen and he has kept 8 ERA Joba up here undeserving.

  72. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:53 am

    I also am fed up with the “fat ass” comments. The guy is a major league baseball pitcher, he’s in better shape than 95% of the posters on this blog.
    *********

    He’s not even close to the shape I’m in so I will continue to call him a fat ass.

    Joba is a fat ass.

  73. Jerkface July 11th, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Reliever A: .289/.347/.489/.836

    Reliever B: .306/.390/.389/.779

    ??
    Both of these seem bad. One guy puts 40% of the players he faces on, the other gives up an all-star slugging against

  74. David Lee July 11th, 2010 at 2:54 am

    Bret – Tonight provided real information that Joba Chamberlain is not a very good or consistent pitcher at the moment. Tonight’s performance DOES NOT indicate how Joba’s future will pan out and DOES NOT give any indication of Joba’s work ethic or lack thereof.

  75. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:55 am

    LGY -

    I’m surprised Albaladejo hasn’t been given another opportunity myself.

    They’ve fiddled with the bullpen but you’re right they’ve done nothing big to change it. Part of that is the Aceves situation and then Mitre went and got himself hurt swinging a bat (sheesh) and Park was hurt for a bit. They’ve been managing injuries for the most part.

    Perhaps they are partially waiting to see what they’ve really got before they make different kinds of moves? I don’t know.

    Relief pitching is a real conundrum. You don’t know what you have or don’t have until you have or don’t have it, if you know what I mean. And even then, it could change by next game.

    I should really call it a night. I have no idea why I’m still awake.

  76. AD July 11th, 2010 at 2:55 am

    Cash should get criticism until Joba gets sent down

    No GM in his right mind keeps a 8 ERA reliever in the pen and doesn’t even attempt to fix him. Even if you don’t fix him, at least get him the heck off the ML roster. Let him suck in the minors rather than in the majors.

  77. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 2:55 am

    # Jerkface July 11th, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Reliever A: .289/.347/.489/.836

    Reliever B: .306/.390/.389/.779

    ??
    Both of these seem bad. One guy puts 40% of the players he faces on, the other gives up an all-star slugging against

    ——————–

    Sadly, both reside in our bullpen.

    Reliever A is Park. Reliever B is Chamberlain, and those stats are prior to tonight’s implosion.

  78. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 2:56 am

    # Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 2:53 am

    I also am fed up with the “fat ass” comments. The guy is a major league baseball pitcher, he’s in better shape than 95% of the posters on this blog.
    *********

    He’s not even close to the shape I’m in so I will continue to call him a fat ass.

    Joba is a fat ass.

    haha

  79. Vic July 11th, 2010 at 2:56 am

    “Both of these seem bad. One guy puts 40% of the players he faces on, the other gives up an all-star slugging against”

    That is the gist of it. One guy might be slightly better than the other, but both will likely blow the game.

    This pen is hideous

  80. S.A.--Serenity Now July 11th, 2010 at 2:57 am

    There is concern about what Chamberlain is and the Yankees, after failing to snare Lee, may have to go a more conventional trade route and snatch up a true setup man before the end of this month.

    In the meantime, as Rivera waits for Chamberlain to be the proper bridge, the all-time greatest closer does it with patience. Walking out of the stadium Saturday night, Rivera said he would not talk to Chamberlain immediately. Rivera planned to let the meltdown breathe and then decide if he needs to say anything to Chamberlain.

    “It is a process,” Rivera said.

    Chamberlain is getting a little used to the process of answering the questions after another tough eighth. He has gone from huge popularity to being disdained by Yankees fans. Still, Chamberlain said his confidence is unshaken.

    “High,” Chamberlain said. “It is going to continue to be high.”

    http://sports.espn.go.com/newy.....id=5370844

  81. RS July 11th, 2010 at 2:57 am

    “Both of these seem bad. One guy puts 40% of the players he faces on, the other gives up an all-star slugging against”

    Maybe the point is that both are equally bad but only one is relegated to mop-up duty while the other is asked to protect precious leads?

  82. Skill Set July 11th, 2010 at 2:58 am

    You can try Robertson, but if he keeps putting baserunners on at the rate that he is (even during his “great” recent stretch with a good ERA), he is going to get burned eventually as well.

    He almost blew 2 games this weekend. He blew plenty of games early on in the season too – remember the Os game? The White Sox game?

    This pen is full of low-leverage relievers. No one who can take the ball and pitch a scoreless inning in the 8th.

  83. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 2:59 am

    Most teams will figure things out on who to keep, who to unload and what the going price will be for the also ran teams. Players like Matt Lindstrom, Corey Hart, Adam Dunn, Brandon League, Fielder… Those are some of the best and they will cost. Others that will cost are those that are still A list players but, not performing up to their standards. You can bet that the big commodity will be bullpen help and big bats. NYYs don’t need starting pitching, unless they get them for nothing. Look at teams with big salaries with no money and no hope. Those are the players that will be salary relief with minimal talent being moved.

  84. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 2:59 am

    rs -

    I would agree with that take. Pretty much with Joba you know if he has it or not, and generally speaking, once he gets into a mess, it is a rare day indeed when he can right his own ship. So, I’d agree his leash is bit long. He is no Mo.

  85. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 2:59 am

    Every off season Cashman does absolutely nothing to improve the bullpen. It’s never a priority or treated like it’s an important part of the team. Unless we are supposed to consider Park an improvement. The last couple of years the bullpen has been garbage and by the middle of the season they are calling up anyone with an arm in Scranton.

    I guess Cashman and co are ok with giving up on Joba’s future inorder to keep throwing him out there now. They must really have no confidence in Robertson or anyone else that could be brought up. The young flame thrower has turned into a 6 era flat slider, straight fastball guy and they seem ok with that. In 2 years from now if he doesn’t get himself right he might not even be in the majors.

  86. Wow July 11th, 2010 at 2:59 am

    Is there anyway the royals deal soria… I wouldn’t mind trading joba for soria or another good closer

  87. Nate Dogg July 11th, 2010 at 3:00 am

    Joba sucks. Simple.

  88. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 3:01 am

    Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 2:59 am

    Relief pitching is too volatile to be relied on from a year to year basis.

    The key is being flexible enough not to keep a guy in a preset role, unless you know you can absolutely trust him.

    In Joba’s case, the answer is a resounding no.

  89. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:01 am

    Jonathon Albaladejo isn’t going to save this pen. It’s not just Joba. It’s everyone other than Mo. My God, some of you guys have grown so desperate.

  90. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 3:02 am

    # Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:01 am

    Jonathon Albaladejo isn’t going to save this pen. It’s not just Joba. It’s everyone other than Mo. My God, some of you guys have grown so desperate.

    ———————————–

    Alby has been decent of late. Better than the slop we’ve been throwing out there. The key is not to be a stubborn mule about preset bullpen roles.

  91. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 3:03 am

    Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 2:59 am

    The Pen had Mo Joba Ace D-Rob Park Marte in it and the start of the year. Joba D-Rob Park have been failures. Mo has been legendary. Ace has a back problem and will probably be out for the year. Marte has been ok. What can you do?

    2008 and 2009 the Yankees had great pens.

  92. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:03 am

    “High,” Chamberlain said. “It is going to continue to be high.”
    *********

    I bet.

  93. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:05 am

    Bret -

    I’m not even close to suggesting that Albaladejo would be teh savior for the pen; just saying that with all the ineffectiveness going around, it’s a bit of a surprise he wasn’t given a try at one point or another.

  94. NYYanksFan July 11th, 2010 at 3:06 am

    “I can’t imagine how the vets on this team, guys like Posada and Jeter are taking this as they watch Joba cough up precious wins and keep his spot on the pecking order.”

    Jeter would say it’s a game of failure, everyone makes mistakes and you can control effort but you can’t control results. Heard him say it hundreds of times.

  95. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 3:06 am

    “I have no idea why I’m still awake.”

    ————————————–

    I have no idea either.

    Sadly, I think I have thought this a couple times already this season after Joba has blown a game.

    Talking about his struggles and how to help him is really getting to be just a waste of time at this point.

    August 7th is D-day. After that what’s done is done with Joba.

  96. Pepitone July 11th, 2010 at 3:08 am

    GB7: “NYYs don’t need starting pitching, unless they get them for nothing. Look at teams with big salaries with no money and no hope. Those are the players that will be salary relief with minimal talent being moved.”
    =================
    The Cubs are out of it, and with an embattled manager and general manager they’re ready to deal. I know the Red Sox, Tigers, and Angels have been scouting them. I wouldn’t mind the Yanks taking a look at Scott Marshall, or Ted Lilly, or even Ryan Dempster as a possible piece to an already solid pitching staff. I think Chamberlain will figure things out, but Cashman might want to take a look at those guys if he wants a veteran presence in that pen.

  97. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:08 am

    Doreen,

    I know.

    But I think some fans see Albaldejo as a possible solution to the despicable mess that is our bullpen.

    He’s not.

    You make sense.

  98. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 11th, 2010 at 3:08 am

    I don’t even know who Cash could get by the trading deadline – what decent relievers are available?

    Alby should be given another chance – he can’t do any worse and something has to be done. It’s not like the Yankees can afford to take chances – this division is up for grabs and we need all the wins we can get.

  99. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:09 am

    The bullpen was a strength last year and evidence of that was the come-from-behind victories. it took time to develop, though. It’s much slower developing this year, but again, Aceves missing doesn’t help.

    And there really is no one out there who is going to magically arrive and be, basically, another Mo. Any reliever you get is a crapshoot. Between it being the nature of the profession and the extra pressure of it being teh NYY, it’s not a science for sure.

  100. Michelle July 11th, 2010 at 3:09 am

    “I don’t necessarily have a problem with Girardi letting Joba start the eighth inning. What bothers me is that he has such a long leash.”
    ——————-

    Exactly. When Joba starts off bad, it ends bad. He NEVER finds a way to get out of a big mess. Then he starts with the sliders and the ball is usually tattooed 500 feet. When it’s obvious that Joba has nothing he needs to be taken out. Marte should of started the inning or came in to face Branyan once it was obvious that Joba had nothing. You can’t treat him like Mo and let him put the game totally out of reach.

  101. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 3:09 am

    “It’s everyone other than Mo.”

    ————————————-

    Marte is very good as a LOOGY.

  102. RS July 11th, 2010 at 3:10 am

    Albaladejo should be given another shot. Veras sucked in 2007 and we got about 4-5 good months out of him in 2008. Maybe they strike gold with Albie for one year.

  103. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:09 am

    Any reliever you get is a crapshoot.

    ********

    I strongly disagree with this.

    It’s false.

    It’s saying the only elite reliever in the game is Mo which is untrue.

    It’s saying teams never trade for elite reliever.

    They do.

  104. Donnie - Will Meet Joba Under the O'Neill Banner July 11th, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Are you freaking kidding me?

    What does he have to do to lose his job? Start beaning guys? Give up 2 grand slams in the same inning? Murder a kitten on the mound? I honestly want to know what exactly he’s done to warrant being given this much rope.

  105. David Lee July 11th, 2010 at 3:13 am

    Relievers are not a crapshoot. The success from year-to-year for many relievers is a crapshoot. That is what makes Mariano Rivera so special.

  106. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 3:13 am

    When the Seattle series started, I figured that the odds were pretty even that NYYs would split this series. Sweeping the series is thinking that is beyond stupid. If you catch a break, you might take 3 of the 4. Guess what? Tomorrow, Sabathia takes a shot at the 3rd of 4 wins.

    What’s more, that’s the last trip until October and NYYs will be 6-1 or 5-2 on the West Coast Swing. Regardless of what teams they play, that’s a rough trip. NYY has had one 9 game home stand this year. On the other hand, they’ve had three 9 game road trips.

    There is almost zero chance for players to get in a comfort zone or a steady, consistent pattern. Why the scheduling for the NYYs was done like this is beyond me. It makes no more sense than the 3 West Coast trips before the All Star Break. I’ll leave it up to the conspiracy theorists.

  107. m July 11th, 2010 at 3:14 am

    I think that when Marte is healthy, he’s more than capable of getting 3 outs. I could be wrong, but I think he has mental fortitude. Still not sure after all these years, but I think so.

  108. RustyJohn July 11th, 2010 at 3:14 am

    Chad, it is sunny here and gorgeous three months out of the year- it is the other 9 that are rainy and crappy. Hope you got to Key Arena in time to catch the last part of the Tool concert.

  109. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:14 am

    Also, I wouldn’t be fooled by Girardi’s demeanor. This has got to be driving him crazy. But no other guy, not Robertson or Park or anyone else, has been consistent either. I think if he saw anyone else being lights out, he’d make an adjustment. I don’t blame him for not wanting to bounce the guys around in the pen; it is better for them to know when their basic assignments will be. But you better believe that if Robertson or Park had been lights out on any kind of consistent basis, he’d switch assignments. Joba has the EIG by default not really by commitment.

  110. Joe Pepitone Fan July 11th, 2010 at 3:15 am

    What a night! I was eating a late dinner when Joba messed up yet another game. I am still trying to digest it. Here is my take on Joba:

    1) Needs to be sent to the minors.
    2) Too bad no other pitcher has stepped up and we are using a 5 plus ERA guy in the 8th.
    3) Joe’s loyalty to Joba is misplaced, the numbers do not lie.
    4) Joba’s weight is a factor. He is overweight and out of shape. He was sweating like a pig while Javy was looking cool after 110 plus pitches.
    5) Is alcohol a factor? As charming as Joba’s past and family story seem to be…he comes from a highly disfunctional background and in my opinion his problems go way deeper than pitching.

  111. RS July 11th, 2010 at 3:16 am

    The good news is that if Javy keeps pitching the way he has lately, Hughes can go to the bullpen in the playoffs.

  112. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 3:17 am

    David Phelps should be considered for the pen also.

    If the Yankees are committed enough to winning a WS enough to trade their best prospect for Cliff Lee basically all these guys down there pitching well, starter or reliever should be considered.

    David Phelps should be in the bullpen before considering trading prospects for a reliever.

  113. m July 11th, 2010 at 3:17 am

    GreenBeret,

    I don’t think we’re upset that we lost. It’s how we lost. If Joba didn’t blow a 1 run game, then we’d probably would’ve lost due to lack of offense.

    If this were the first time that Joba’s blown a game, he’d get a pass.

    But there’s a breaking point for some of us. I don’t think it can’t be ignored anymore.

  114. David in Cal July 11th, 2010 at 3:17 am

    With the trading deadline approaching, I had been wondering what the Yanks need more: a right-handed outfielder who can hit or a reliable relief pitcher. This game gave us the answer.

  115. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:18 am

    I’m saying relievers that may be available to the Yankees at this point are a crapshoot.

    They’re more than likely not going to get one of the elites right now.

    Obviously there are relief pitchers who are much more reliable than not on a consistent basis. I was only talking in generalities.

  116. m July 11th, 2010 at 3:19 am

    Doreen,

    At this point, I think Roberston is better than Joba. Robertson doesn’t fall apart, and his crashes haven’t been as spectacular.

  117. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:20 am

    I’m thankful in a way and absolutely thrilled for Javy that he will likely get a second chance to prove himself in New York in a high pressure playoff spot. He overcame a huge hurdle this year and 2 benchings from his unfaithful manager amidst a hostile fan base. I want Javy to kick all kinds of ass.

  118. Pepitone July 11th, 2010 at 3:21 am

    If I were Cashman, and I wanted a veteran who could relive, or start, then I would call Jim Hendry of the Cubs and ask what it would take to make a deal for Ryan Dempster.

    He’s had an up and down year, but he has been a consistently reliable starter, and was a pretty good closer before 2007. Plus with the salary problems the Cubs have they might be willing to give him to them if they would take on the rest of his contract, which, incidentally is pretty bloated.

  119. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:24 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:18 am
    I’m saying relievers that may be available to the Yankees at this point are a crapshoot.

    ************

    That’s likely since Cashman is sitting on his hands. He probably doesn’t have any options at this point.

    I’m sure he’s working his tail off to acquire an elite reliever because we desperately need one.

    It may not happen which sux for us big time.

    We all know who his target is and it’s obvious the price tag is so ridiculous it’s not worth speculating.

  120. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:25 am

    m -

    But only recently with Robertson.

    I don’t want to be thought to be defending Joba as the EIG. He’s a huge problem when he’s off and he’s been off too much for that role. Big ugly messy blown games.

    Let’s see what happens after the break. That’s when most of the improvements are made anyway.

    I also believe if the Yankees didn’t have the record they have, they may have operated a bit differently, too.

  121. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 3:25 am

    Pepitone July 11th, 2010 at 3:08 am
    GB7: “NYYs don’t need starting pitching, unless they get them for nothing. Look at teams with big salaries with no money and no hope. Those are the players that will be salary relief with minimal talent being moved.”
    =================
    The Cubs are out of it, and with an embattled manager and general manager they’re ready to deal. I know the Red Sox, Tigers, and Angels have been scouting them. I wouldn’t mind the Yanks taking a look at Scott Marshall, or Ted Lilly, or even Ryan Dempster as a possible piece to an already solid pitching staff. I think Chamberlain will figure things out, but Cashman might want to take a look at those guys if he wants a veteran presence in that pen.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    That’s a battle that I would like to see. 67 year old “Sweet Lou” Pinella against anybody. If ever there was a player with a nickname of “Sweet Lou”, he ain’t it…but, damned if he isn’t fun to watch explode.

    I really like Marshall a lot. Both Lilly and Dempster have been relievers, so, the could work out of the pen and spell Hughes, too. You’re right, though. They just want financial relief. I might even make a run at picking up soon to be free agent Derrek Lee and pay half of what’s he’s owed as the right handed DH/bat off of the bench. He’s owed about $6.75 mil and a FA this year.

  122. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 3:25 am

    I liked Javy the first go-round and I still like him now. This is the guy Cashman was getting way back then. He is healthy now and ready to whip some batter behinds.

  123. LGY July 11th, 2010 at 3:27 am

    Noesi has stuck out 9.3 per 9 and only BB 1.5 per 9.

    He pitched 117 innings last year. He is at 105 now. One more start and he should be up here to see if he can help the bullpen.

    Only guys that should be locked in the bullpen are Mo and Marte. You don’t perform you get sent down or DFA’d in Park’s case.

    Noesi, Nova, Albaledejo, Phelps, etc. until you find the right combination or strike lightning in a bottle.

  124. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:27 am

    Bret -

    You know they don’t want to overpay for relief pitchers, even really good ones.

    He has been burned a couple of times.

    Even Marte has not been what we all had hoped, what Cashman had hoped, though he has had a different kind of success, I guess.

  125. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:29 am

    Did I just hear that we should trade for Ted Lilly and stick him in the bullpen or am I hallucinating in my pre-hangover dehydration?

  126. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 3:29 am

    Good night all. It’s way past my bedtime.

  127. vblade July 11th, 2010 at 3:30 am

    # Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:29 am

    Did I just hear that we should trade for Ted Lilly and stick him in the bullpen or am I hallucinating in my pre-hangover dehydration?

    ———–

    Yes, unfortunately someone does think that is a viable solution. Then again, it’s better than Gas Can Chamberlain.

  128. m July 11th, 2010 at 3:30 am

    Doreen,

    Which way are the two young pitchers trending? Robertson’s got his ERA down to the mid-4′s. ;)

    You’re going to be sorry you stayed up so late, is tomorrow a 4 pm EST game?

  129. Joe Pepitone Fan July 11th, 2010 at 3:31 am

    Off topic question? Does anyone else feel that Granderson plays way too deep for a CF and maybe he and Gardner should switch? Thoughts? I was real excited to get Granderson but frankly I am somewhat very disappointed with his game.

  130. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:33 am

    Doreen,

    Sure they have been burned when they overpaid for relievers but teams don’t always get burned when they trade for elite relievers.

    Tampa traded for Rafael Soriano – didn’t get burned.

    Atlanta traded for Billy Wagner – that worked out perfectly for them.

    The Yankees could get burnt as they have in the past or they can strike gold like Tampa did.

    We’re reaching the point where the Yankees have to take that chance if it’s available.

  131. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 3:35 am

    # Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:33 am

    Doreen,

    Sure they have been burned when they overpaid for relievers but teams don’t always get burned when they trade for elite relievers.

    Tampa traded for Rafael Soriano – didn’t get burned.

    Atlanta traded for Billy Wagner – that worked out perfectly for them.

    The Yankees could get burnt as they have in the past or they can strike gold like Tampa did.

    We’re reaching the point where the Yankees have to take that chance if it’s available.

    Those 2 signed as free agents man

  132. Jeremy July 11th, 2010 at 3:38 am

    I just got back in from hanging out with some old friends in the city. Then I come here to find out that overrated Joba Chamberlain blew the game. Like I said before the guy is a joke. I’m sick and tired of his act. The guy needs to grow up and step up or be removed from the team.

  133. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 3:40 am

    m July 11th, 2010 at 3:17 am
    GreenBeret,

    I don’t think we’re upset that we lost. It’s how we lost. If Joba didn’t blow a 1 run game, then we’d probably would’ve lost due to lack of offense.

    If this were the first time that Joba’s blown a game, he’d get a pass.

    But there’s a breaking point for some of us. I don’t think it can’t be ignored anymore.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    When has this board ever given a pas s to anybody except Jeter and Rivera? It took 6 years for Rodriguez to receive one, and that got tore up along with Teixeira’s, Robertson’s Vazquez’, Burnett’s, hughes’ and every part time player that failed on accas sion. They’ve revoked Rodriguez’ pas s about 10 times this year for not hitting home runs and just driving in runs. Look at Posada. Wait until Cano starts to slide. He’ll get run out of cyber-town on a cyber-rail.

  134. Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:40 am

    R. Soriano was traded

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4730636

    Wagner signed. I misremembered and thought the Sox traded him because I remembered the Sox got something back which turns out to be picks.

  135. Jeremy July 11th, 2010 at 3:42 am

    Also no more Hughes to the bullpen stuff. Do we want to develop starters or not. Let him pitch in the playoffs as a starter.

  136. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 3:43 am

    # Bret the Hitman July 11th, 2010 at 3:40 am

    R. Soriano was traded

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/…..id=4730636

    Wagner signed. I misremembered and thought the Sox traded him because I remembered the Sox got something back which turns out to be picks.

    I misremembered and thought Soriano was signed. My bad. It was the other guy , the lefty that went to Baltimore that was signed.

  137. Jeremy July 11th, 2010 at 3:45 am

    GreenBeret7
    I agree that some people can be too hard on some players but the fact is that Joba has been really bad. And he continues to get worse and worse every single year. Something needs to be done.

  138. m July 11th, 2010 at 3:45 am

    GreenBeret,

    Are you saying I should suck up and live with it?

  139. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 3:48 am

    Hughes will go to the pen when his innings start closing in on 170 or so innings. That’s allows him to work in the pen instead of shutting him down. Having another pitcher that can do both is worth having. Putting him in the pen before reaching those innings would be counter productive, because, next year, he’d be right where he is now.

  140. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 3:50 am

    m July 11th, 2010 at 3:45 am
    GreenBeret,

    Are you saying I should suck up and live with it?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Take it however you want to take it. Just don’t tell me about all of these imaginary pas ses being handed out.

  141. m July 11th, 2010 at 3:56 am

    Well, I don’t know what to say. So, I won’t say anything at all except I don’t think you read me correctly.

    How many times does Joba have to blow a game until it becomes obvious that he might not be the guy for the job? (and this has nothing to do with Jeter)

  142. Jeremy July 11th, 2010 at 3:59 am

    m
    I agree. Joba has not improved at all. You can not allow this guy to keep blowing games.
    I’m at the point where I’m sick of seeing his face and I want him off the team. He doesn’t take his craft seriously and he thinks the Yankees owe him something.

  143. Tom K July 11th, 2010 at 4:03 am

    Trading value for relievers is usually nothing more than a recipe for disaster. The only relievers you are going to trade for are relievers having fluky seasons that teams are going to try to cash in on.

    Atlanta didn’t trade for Wagner; he was a free agent that signed for one year at a reduced salary.

    Soriano is a good example of a trade that has gone right, but there were circumstances around that deal. Soriano was a pure salary dump by the Braves. He accepted arbitration and the Braves didn’t want to pay him the $7M or so he was likely to command through arbitration. Soriano had all of the leverage; the Braves had none. He had the right to refuse any deal, so Atlanta just took what they could get so that they wouldn’t have to pay him.

    I can’t think of an obvious reliever the Yankees can get who would be a salary dump that wouldn’t cost the Yankees much to get. Do we really want to take a chance on someone like Kerry Wood?

  144. CompassRosy July 11th, 2010 at 4:05 am

    NYY has had one 9 game home stand this year. On the other hand, they’ve had three 9 game road trips.

    Excuse me if I don’t shed any tears for the Yanks re: their schedule GB ;)
    Regarding road trips, the M’s have one 8-gamer, two 9-gamers, one 10-gamer and one 12-gamer this season.

    This graphic aptly illustrates the distances Seattle must travel…
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/teams

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    In the game thread notes it was mentioned that the Yanks had given up only 6 runs in their past 5 games. The M’s had a 6 game winning streak in June where they only gave up 3 runs. Unfortunately, their bullpen woes are practically historic – M’s pen has 21 (count ‘em – 21!) losses. Ugh. And some think the M’s offense is their main issue…

  145. m July 11th, 2010 at 4:05 am

    Okay, one thing is clear. There are too many out-of-options guys in the pen. And Joba is being treated like one. Even if we wanted to bring up an arm from the pen, there’s only one guy who can rotate out-Boone Logan. The bullpen is not flexible enough to work with.

  146. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 4:09 am

    I never said a word about Chamberlain not being bad this year. All I said was that it was a load of dung about how the fans are giving players a pas s. What pas ses has players like Jeter deserved this year, but, still gets one. Sorry, but the pa ss only runs for one season at a time. That goes for any player. Everyone on this team has lost them games this year…and every year. It isn’t just one player. You read about every part time player getting trashed on here, but, I’d bet every one of them has had at least 2 games that they’ve had a major hand in winning. If they were .300 hitting 30 homer mashing hitters or 40 save, 20 game winners, they wouldn’t be part timers…they’d play full time, but, that hardly makes them useless….except to spoiled idiots.

  147. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 4:15 am

    Jeremy July 11th, 2010 at 3:59 am
    m
    I agree. Joba has not improved at all. You can not allow this guy to keep blowing games.
    I’m at the point where I’m sick of seeing his face and I want him off the team. He doesn’t take his craft seriously and he thinks the Yankees owe him something.

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    Can you show proof of this hogwash that Chamberlain doesn’t take his “craft seriously” orfeels like “the Yankees owe him something” or is this just a gum flapping exercise?

  148. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 4:17 am

    Can we beg Moose to come out of retirement?

  149. m July 11th, 2010 at 4:18 am

    I mean’t pa-ss from the bra-ss. Others have been taken out of their roles or sent down for a lot less.

  150. m July 11th, 2010 at 4:18 am

    meant. I make a mean tea, but that’s not what I meant.

  151. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 4:20 am

    This graphic aptly illustrates the distances Seattle must travel…

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    Who built a ballpark in a city that far away or that would only support a team that only plays the Yankees or Red Sox? It’s not like the teams owners just looked at an Atlas and discovered that they lived a far piece from civilization. I have no tears for any team because of location…in any sport.

  152. Jeremy July 11th, 2010 at 4:33 am

    GreenBeret7
    Yes I admit that what I said was mean and over the top. It’s just very hard to support this guy when he continues to fail time and time again.

  153. CompassRosy July 11th, 2010 at 4:41 am

    I have no tears for any team because of location…in any sport.

    I wouldn’t expect you too, I was merely pointing out that there are teams who travel more than the Yanks.

    Last time I checked, your team had the best record in the majors, so it doesn’t appear that their travel schedule has effected them any ;)

  154. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 4:44 am

    Mariano has given up 4 ER in 34 inn.

    Joba has given up 24 ER in 37 Inn.

    Mariano has given up the lead 1 time.

    Joba has given up the lead 6 times.

  155. you are dumb July 11th, 2010 at 4:44 am

    If anyone thinks that Chamberlain still belongs on the Yankees as a setup man, you fail as bad as he has. You can’t blow this many chances and still be a setup guy. The Yanks had this. Joba fails. again.

  156. you are dumb July 11th, 2010 at 4:45 am

    Shoulda shipped him off for Santana years ago. FAAAAAAIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLL.

  157. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 4:47 am

    CompassRosy July 11th, 2010 at 4:41 am

    Seattle plays in the weakest division in the major leagues.

  158. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 4:48 am

    75% of Chamberlain’s game have been in games that he was unscored on. 39 games, 10 games that he’s been scored on. his trouble id that 6 have been multiple run games. He’s not susceptable to home runs…he’s allowed 2. He’s not walking a ton of people, either. About 3 per 9 innings. about 3 strikeouts per walk. That’s pretty good for anybody. his problem is stopping a team if they get started. he can’t cut innings off and limit damage.

  159. CompassRosy July 11th, 2010 at 5:00 am

    Seattle plays in the weakest division in the major leagues.

    Trevor ~
    Even if that were true….
    (the ALW isn’t having a great year, but the NLC actually has a lower w/l percentage – last year, the ALW had the best w/l percentage)
    what does that have to do with travel schedule?

    Well, once again, too late for me, even on the west coast…

    CC vs. Hyphen tomorrow – I’m hoping against hope to be pleasantly surprised at the outcome ;)

  160. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 5:04 am

    Rosy, you only come here to gloat….2 times a year. Sorry…just teasing you. You’re a good poster and love your team. You also respect everyone one here…whether your team or any team is winning or losing. Have a great night, kiddo. You’re good people and fun to tease.

  161. Moo July 11th, 2010 at 5:10 am

    # Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 4:44 am

    Mariano has given up 4 ER in 34 inn.

    Joba has given up 24 ER in 37 Inn.

    Mariano has given up the lead 1 time.

    Joba has given up the lead 6 times.

    Funny thing is, the blow save against the Twins, Joba put him in the situation.

  162. Trevor July 11th, 2010 at 5:36 am

    CompassRosy July 11th, 2010 at 5:00 am

    what does that have to do with travel schedule?
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    That the obstacles everything evens out. You have a harder travel schedule but play in an easy division, with great weather. Yanks play in a tougher division, with some crummy heatwaves and chilly aprils, but have easier fight times.

  163. vinny-b (Joba is a Chambermaid) July 11th, 2010 at 6:28 am

    demote him. Or trade him.

    sorry Girardi. I don’t have your back on this.

  164. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) July 11th, 2010 at 7:17 am

    I don’t care what Girardi said last night, I think the Yankee Brass will be reevaluating their bullpen roles over the all-star break. Joba is costing them wins in a pennant race that will most likely remain close for the rest of the season. Everybody has bad games, but when those bad games become too much when a loss becomes the responsibility of one player then the team’s management is going to have to do something to rectify the situation.

  165. EricNS July 11th, 2010 at 7:23 am

    Send him to Scranton now!!!!!!!!!

  166. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 7:35 am

    m -
    Good morning.

    Robertson may be trending upward, but the problem is Joba is not really “trending”. GB7′s got it right – he has been in more games where he’s been good, but he can’t limit his damage if he doesn’t “have it” and the bad outings are “peppered” throughout, rather than he was really good and now he’s really bad. Thing is, most people can tell immediately if it’s going to be “one of those games,” yet Girardi keeps letting him try to work out of his own mess. Mainly because he can usually point to the last game or two where he was good (and because his velocity is ticking upward more consistently).

    However, trending aside, if the problem is as identified – trouble once he gets runners on, then surely it should be something that can be worked on? Maybe just not at the ML level, where all the W/L’s count. Just not sure if sending him down to work on that particular issue will benefit him because he is probably more than good enough to retire minor league hitters. And how do you replicate the pressure situation that really only exists in a ML game? If it’s mechanics, though – like he changes his mechanics when there are runners on or if he senses he doesn’t have velocity or something like that – I would think that instructional league to straighten out the mechanics couldn’t hurt, could it?

    And the decision has to be made that getting Joba right is more important than having Joba do well 75% of the time. Unless there is someone reliable enough to pick up those innings, it’s a tough call right now. And, really, what’s the difference if you blow a save spectacularly, as Joba seems to, or in a quieter fashion? A blown save is a blown save in the loss column.

    And if it’s a matter of Joba throwing too many sliders, then the catchers need to be more aggressive in insisting Joba NOT throw sliders. (I’m in no way blaming the catchers for Joba’s troubles; just suggesting that they can be a part of the solution.)

  167. Trade Joba For A Bag Of Balls July 11th, 2010 at 7:51 am

    This clown needs to go. He’s a NY Media creation who had a couple good months back in ’07. He’s a 4th or 5th starter in the NL at best. Cannot trust him in a big spot, period.

  168. n July 11th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Joba = Kyle Farnsworth.

  169. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 7:55 am

    Morning, Doreen? I see that you missed the summery execution of Joba Chamberlain last night. Hope all goes well for you and your family, today. I’d like to see some the the suggestions for an EIG, without somebody wanting to bring in a very unhappy closer that’s made to set up Rivera.

    I’ve seen EIGs like Bard’s name brought up. He has a great ERA. The trouble is, he’s still blown 4 saves. Chamberlain has 3. same amount of games and innings. The only runs he gives up are everyone elses. Chamberlain has had 20 inherited runners and 4 have scored. Bard has had 20 inherited runners allowed to score. Bard has inherited 28 runners and allowed 8 to score. Chamberlain has a 1-4 record and Bard is 1-2.

    There are some good stats on baseball-reference.com, those are more individuals, one at a time, including Inherited Runs and Inherited runners scored.

    Here’s a better one to sort and all the info is one here, including Holds, Saves, Bown saves, save opportunities.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/p.....e/expanded

    Chamberlain doesn’t hurt his team any more or less than any other EIG, for the most part. The only one that he’s hurting more than others is his ERA. Very few cost games.

  170. BIG AL July 11th, 2010 at 7:56 am

    After watching how the game ended this morning, I wanted to get on the blog and blast Joba, like everyone else. After giving it some thought, I realized Joba is not at fault for his performance, the Yankees management, fans and media are to blame.
    Yes, we all put Joba on a pedestal in 2007, he was the next coming, but, he was a kid with just 80 innings of work in the minor leagues. He was rushed to the ML, had early success, and his development as a pitcher, and a man stopped. Joba is still a kid, he is about the same age as Phil Hughes, but, Phil is a very mature individual, Joba is not.
    Joba cannot deal with adversity, therefore, he is not suited for the 8th inning role, and keeping him there will only serve to hurt any chance of him developing into a good pitcher.
    Roy Halladay was in a similar position early in his career, and he was sent down to learn how to be a pitcher, and was told, this is your last, and only chance, so make the best of it. It’s obvious today, he did just that.
    Girardi and Cashman, by putting Joba in the 8th inning role, are setting him up for failure, no different than putting Pena in the 4 slot, and expecting him to perform at the level A-Rod does, it will not happen. Yes, Pena may have some good games, 2/3 or ¾, but those games will be the exception, not the rule.
    If the Yankees want Joba to be a part of this team going forward, they need to send him down to work on being a pitcher, and not a thrower. He needs to regain the confidence he had in 2007, before he can be successful again.
    Those that say he’s lost MPH off his FB, are not watching the same guy I’m seeing, he’s still throwing in the high 90’s, but straight, so he’s very hittable.
    I don’t think we have to go outside for relief help. Albaladejo has been lights out in Scranton, and he is not the same pitcher that was in NY before, he deserves another chance. Also, Nova and others that are pitching well, could help this year in the bullpen, it’s worth a try.

  171. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Trade Joba For A Bag Of Balls July 11th, 2010 at 7:51 am
    This clown needs to go. He’s a NY Media creation who had a couple good months back in ‘07. He’s a 4th or 5th starter in the NL at best. Cannot trust him in a big spot, period.

    n July 11th, 2010 at 7:52 am
    Joba = Kyle Farnsworth.

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    Go figure. Two no-clue “fans” that have no idea how to look up information that may help you figure out the meaning of life.

  172. blake July 11th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    The loss last night doesn’t really bother me that much. Its extremely difficult to sweep a 4 game series on the road and they faced one of the best pitchers in baseball last night. They should have a good shot to take 3 of 4 with CC throwing today to make a 6-1 west coast trip….ill take that every time.

    However, the way they lost last night does bug me a bit. Javy pitched his tail off and gave the Yankees a chance to steal a game and Joba just throws all that away.

    I’m a pretty positive guy but I’m just tired of the whole act with Joba..I’m tired of the inconsistency, I’m tired of the fist pumps, I’m tired of the flat billed cap, and I’m tired of the Yankees continuing to allow it.

    The Yanks have a couple of options with their pen in my view. 1) go out and overpay for some help (which you always overpay for relievers) 2) try and make do until later in the season when they can shift Hughes back to the setup role. My feeling is that the Yankees can probably still won the division with the current bullpen and they willhp have no urgency to overpay for bullpen help when they are 5 games clear of a playoff spot.

    I don’t know what the answer is with Joba. I do know that the Yankees made a point to say in ST that they weren’t going to “just give Joba the set up job”….he would have to earn. My question to them is, has he earned it?

  173. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    Chamberlain was throwing 99 MPH last night. The pitch that he threw to Wilson had no business being hit. It was low and off the outside corner at 97 MPH. How Wilson hit that is beyond me. He’s not that good. That inning doesn’t happen without that hit.

  174. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 8:04 am

    GB7 -

    We’re maybe planning to head down to Lakewood to see the Blue Claws play Delmarva this evening. It looks to be a nice day ahead. I hope you are doing well?

    Ah, if only I had gone to bed earlier, but I was indeed around for the Joba trial and execution last night (this morning???).

    Joba’s messes are loud, ugly messes. Joba is certainly flashy. :lol: But as I said, a blown save is a blown save in the loss column.

    Those are interesting stats, GB7. But as a fanbase we’re only as good as “what have you done for me lately?” (And as you well know, many’s the time when the discussion here doesn’t let facts get in the way of a good rant!) There are those of us genuinely concerned about Joba, though. There’s no denying he’s not as “lights out” as a couple of season ago. I think towards the wee-er hours, this place was populated by more of those and less of the type who think Joba needs to be tarred and feathered.

    I have no objection to discussing what makes him fail so spectacularly when he does fail. To me that’s a legitimate discussion. I get wrankled when I read all the “he needs to be put in his place” junk.

  175. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:07 am

    Right now, I’d seriously consider moving Nova into the EIG in Scranton and see how he does until the trade deadline. That’s 2 weeks to find out how he reacts to the pressure, or, better, let him close for them to add a little more pressure on him. Albaladejo is not going to close in NY.

  176. BIG AL July 11th, 2010 at 8:08 am

    GB7 – The ball hit for GS was to be low and away, but, was up in the zone, and hit well. Joba missed his location. Listen to his own statement.

  177. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Doreen, have a fun and safe trip to the game today. Sounds like a blast. enjoy it, you lucky lady. I love the minor league games. It’s especially nice to not have to take out a 2nd mortgage or pawn the twins to get money for a hotdog.

    (Please don’t tell Morgan that I said that. she’ll kill me).

    I’m doing just fine here. Thanks for asking.

  178. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 8:13 am

    When the time comes that Phil Hughes needs to be put in the pen due to reaching his innings limit, I’m not expecting him to be the same guy out there he was last season. He will have pitched, what 170 innings or so already? He may very well be, since a one-inning outing allows you to give it all you’ve got for a short period of time and not have to conserve, but I wouldn’t expect the same performance as last season. This is not a criticism of Phil Hughes or a question of his abilities. Just an observation that by the time he reaches his limit, he may or may not strong.

  179. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:13 am

    I wasn’t talking about the GS. I was talking about the first hit he gave up…to Wilson. Suzuki would have been out on a regular play to first base if there wasn’t a force play to begin with.

  180. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:17 am

    I think that Hughes would attack hitters just like he did last year. It’s the starts that cover him that I’d be concerned about. The innings will be capped around 180 innings. He may get the same (or close to) innings/starts, just a few 5 inning starts with big leads. that’s according to Girardi.

  181. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 8:17 am

    GB7 -

    I’ll take a minor league game over a movie anytime! It’s a great way to spend a summer afternoon or evening. I only wish they had more 11 a.m. starts so I could go to more by myself! I love my family, but it was great to experience that River Dogs game earlier this season in my own fashion. My husband went to a Thunder game by himself while we gals were in Florida last week, and he really enjoyed the solo experience as well. It’s definitely family- and budget-friendly. :)

    (I know you’d never pawn those twins!!!!) :)

  182. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 8:19 am

    GB7 -

    What do you mean by “the starts that cover him?” No comprendo. :)

  183. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:23 am

    Doreen, like you, I love the afternoon matinees. The Cubs throughout their system used to have every Wednesday listed as Ladies Day and Tuesdays were Family Day. Always afternoon games (before lights). The White Sox had the same thing. They’d still draw the crowds, though.

  184. rj July 11th, 2010 at 8:25 am

    Personally, I think if Javy continues to pitch like this he deserves to come back next year. He’s shown a lot of guts to turn his year around, unlike Joba he can’t get his head screwed on straight.

    I was a big Joba fan but it’s time to realize the 8th inning in a 1-run game is not where he should be working through his command issues. The way Robertson’s been throwing lately he should be given a shot and Joba should get smacked upside the head, maybe it’ll knock something back into place. He comes in, throws 2 balls immediately and the feeling that he’s rattled is palpable at home.

    No matter how hard he’s throwing his head is no longer in a place where he can handle adversity.

  185. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Doreen, I’m trying to figure out who gets a couple of Hughes’ starts later in the season when Girardi starts limiting his number of innings and starts. I’m thinking about 4 or 5 starts.

  186. ron July 11th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Joba has pitched 37.1 innings/42 hits,5.79 era,1.50 whip & the league is batting .282 against him.
    You either get it done or you don’t & he is not.

    Cashman is going too make a move wether it be alby or a trade,etc…

    There is more too it than the one great pitch that he threw too wilson that wilson had no business hitting but did anyways.

    I also don’t see joba throwing inside anymore that made his slider wicked.

  187. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    If Hughes gets to 18-19 wins though, I fully expect Girardi to give Hughes a shot at 20 wins. Now-a-days, that’s really a special deal…especially, that first time.

  188. rj July 11th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    GB, I think that’ll depend on how we stand in the division. If we’ve got a healthy lead they can give those starts to September call-ups. If it’s close, well I hope by that point Mitre is back & throwing well and can be trusted to go 5-6.

    It’s not my call, of course. If it comes to that point and we need Phil to give us another 10-12 as a starter, I’d do it, but there’s no chance Yankee mgmt would go that route.

  189. rj July 11th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Girardi might want to give Phil that shot, but would his bosses go for it?

  190. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:40 am

    Just so you know. There are 2 pitchers that have more holds than Chamberlain’s 18. One has 21 and the other has 19. Both have pitched in more games. He’s blown 3 saves. His numbers aren’t pretty. Overall, the end results are better than most in his role.

  191. 86w183 July 11th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    My guess is Hughes makes about 10 more starts which gets him up around 160 innings and then shifts to the bullpen. Right now Sergio Mitre would be the logical choice to replace Hughes in the rotation for the final 4-6 starts of the regular season.

    I don’t expect the Yanks to do anything drastic to their unpredictable (to be kind) bullpen unless it gets really ugly.

  192. ron July 11th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    I remember when joba threw inside to youk the threw the slider over the outside corner & youk wouldn’t even bother trying to go get it.

  193. Rick July 11th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Chamberlain can’t be trusted to hold games as he’s shown. Can’t be considered as as a future closer.
    The Yankees missed out on the Cliff Lee deal. A suggestion for Cashman’s next pursuit should be to deal with Kansas City for Joakim Soria in exchange for Chamberlain and Zach McAllister.
    Chamberlain will be closer to Nebraska. Soria will show reliability as the 8th inning man and a sometime closer when Mariano isn’t available.

    http://kansascity.royals.mlb.c....._id=465657

  194. ron July 11th, 2010 at 8:43 am

    Then threw.

  195. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Why would KC trade a cost controlled, young and effective closer and send him out somebody that another team that wants to get rid of? so when they get good, they can go out and but an expensive closer? They aren’t trading him and he’s not going to set up for anybody. If they trade, it’s going to be to a team that pays closer money for closer value in talent. That’s not Chamberlain if you’re trying to trade him.

  196. 86w183 July 11th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    I agree Joba rarely throws fastballs in and that limits the effectiveness of the slider.

    A lot of people love Joakim Soria but I don’t see Kansas City’s motivation to move him. Certainly not for a less reliable reliever and a good/not great prospect.

    Now if the Yanks would upgrade the prospect and/or eat the $ 5+ Million that Guillen still has coming this year then you might have something.

  197. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    out and ***buy*** an expensive

  198. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    I think that KC may demand that that player isn’t Guillen, but Gil Meche.

  199. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    GB7 -

    Okay, I understand what you mean now. Maybe they should go out and get Cliff Lee?? ;)

  200. ron July 11th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    One of the best closers in baseball is not going to be an 8th inning guy.

    It doesn’t happen.

    Would mo set up for soria??

    It would have too be an on the verge closer like rodney or a young pitcher that can be a future closer like meek,storen,etc….

  201. disco stu July 11th, 2010 at 8:57 am

    The velocity may still be there, but when B-level ML hitters continually are able to hit (and pull) fastballs that are in the upper 90′s, that tells me that there is no late movement anymore on Joba’s fastball. His fast ball used to explode into the catchers mitt (I was at a game in July 2008 when Joba was a SP against Texas – sat right behind the Yankee dugout and I am telling you, the sound the ball made when it Posada’s glove was nothing I ever heard before).

    The late movement has been long gone for a while now. I personally believe that the injury Joba had in August 2008 is a bigger reason for his troubles than the Yankees are letting on. Maybe he is fine, structurally, but his ball doesnt move the way it did before that injury. Even when Joba would struggle with his command, he still would not get hit hard because his fastball had so much movement.

    I’m not sure what the answer is, but I know this much, Joba may think he can compete at a high level by throwing a mid-90′s fastball in the zone, but unless he gets back the movement to combine with the velocity he is going to continue to get hit … and hit hard.

  202. flyankee July 11th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    It would be nice to see our starting pitchers go deeper in games like lee.

  203. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Quick, Doreen. Fire off an E-mail to Cashman and tell him. It probably never entered his mind.

    See!!! This is what we’re here for. To help Cashman think of the good stuff.

  204. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    If the solution was easy (trade, promotion, revamp Joba), it would be done already. I’m pretty confident thinking the Yankees have tossed around all this information and more. In the meantime, the status quo, while not perfect, has netted them 55 wins and first place at the ASB so far, so they have some time to work on the situation.

  205. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    GB7 -

    :lol:

  206. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Pena has gotten hits off of other pitchers nearly as good. So has Huffman….to Broxton. It happens.

  207. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 9:01 am
    GB7 -

    : D

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    having a good chuckle is better than crying or kicking the cat.

  208. 86w183 July 11th, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Gil Meche? God no!!

    Yanks will be patient, which you can afford to be when you have the best club out there.

  209. deputy dawg July 11th, 2010 at 9:06 am

    OT. Texas is going to treat Lee like a rented mule for the next three months. He should have been out after 5 down 5-0. they kept him in for 9. Just hope he can survive with his health history.

  210. 86w183 July 11th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Anyone notice that Lee got smacked around by Baltimore? Six runs! He did pitch a CG, but six runs against that lineup is not pretty.

    Montero by the way hit a HR and drove in two in Scranton’s game one win. Way to celebrate not getting traded big fella’

  211. rj July 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    Problem I’ve had with the holds that Joba has blown is that when he blows up, he really blows up. Like last night, if he loads the bases and gives up a 2-run single, ok that’s not good but we’re down a run going into the ninth. He’s blown holds in such a way that it takes us out of the game.

  212. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    I agree. NYY has a little breathing room and 5 days to rest the nicks on the players. It gives them 2 weeks to look over the best available usable talent. The Yankees have 3 things that teams need….healthy young pitchers, healthy young catchers and healthy young wallets. The 3 biggest commodities that teams desire.

  213. 86w183 July 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    What’s wrong with Lee’s health history? He’s made 30+ starts five of the last six years and will likely approach that this year. Yeah, he missed most of the last two months of 2007, but otherwise he’s been solid.

  214. disco stu July 11th, 2010 at 9:13 am

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    His mechanics are so fluid and his delivery is so smooth that I dont see it being an issue.

    Besides, look how Milwaukee chose to use CC during the final weeks of the 2008 season (pitching on 3 days rest and having him go the distance nearly every time out) – he turned out pretty good once the Yankees signed him.

  215. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    If you can’t score any runs at all, does it really matter where it’s a 1 or 3 run loss?

  216. rj July 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am

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  217. Mark in Tampa July 11th, 2010 at 9:15 am

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  218. Doreen - GTLU Stuff & Photos July 11th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    86w183

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    Aha- you have touched upon what I forgot when I asked what’s the difference if you blow a save spectacularly or just a little. True – it’s a lot harder to make up 3 runs in one inning than 1 run in one inning. Good point.

  219. BIG AL July 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Joba has all the tools to do the job, but, his location is the problem. He can’t work out his problems pitching 1 inning every couple days, which is why he either goes to AAA, or the instructional league to get it done there. Where’s all the pitching guru’s that are suppose to help young pitchers develope?

  220. MTU (aka GBURL) July 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Morning.

    Glad I went to bed when I did.

    I did not see Joba’s implosion.

    Fortunately.

    EIG must be fixed. That’s all I’ll say about it.

    Doesn’t matter how they go about it. Just get it taken care of and soon.

    Great work by Javy.

  221. rj July 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
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    Cmon GB I know you know better than that. We had 1st & 3rd with Jorge up. So if we’re down 2-1, not 4-1, all we needs a single. Jorge was swinging for the fences. It totally changes the complexion of that inning if we’re down 1, not 3.

  222. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    does it really matter ***whether*** it’s a 1 or 3 run loss

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  224. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Posada wasn’t swinging. He was looking at a high pitch called a strike. Why is it that every time a hitter swings to drive a pitch, he’s automatically (swinging for the fences)?

    he’s not going to try to chip the ball over the infield. He’s going to take his normal swing….one that he’s given, according to the pitch.

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  226. 86w183 July 11th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    He had a strained ribcage muscle at the start of this season and missed most of April.

    So Lee has missed just under thre months in seven years. That’s pretty durable in my book.

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    86w183 -

    Strained rib cage sounds like something we can live with. :)

  228. rj July 11th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    He took a big swing at that pitch right down the middle earlier in the at-bat. Touche on your point abt why does everyone think hitters swing for the fences. But right back at ya with do you really think Jorge was not up there thinking a HR ties the game?

    And good job ignoring my real point abt the way Joba blows a hold and that down 3 in the 9th is a way different situation than down 1 in the 9th.

  229. disco stu July 11th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    GB7 – you are right losing by 1 run or 3 runs doesnt really matter after the fact. A loss is a loss.

    But it does make a difference during the game if you have just lost a 1 run lead in the 8th inning, are heading into the 9th inning with just one shot at coming back, and you have a 3 run deficit to overcome as opposed to just a 1 run deficit.

    Besides, the Yankees were hardly “dominated” by Felix last night – they had opportunities. Plus, they had runners on 1st and 3rd and less than 2 outs in the 9th inning. Are you telling me that if the game was 2-1 and not 4-1, that the Yankees might not have handled that situation any different? A delayed double-steal, for example? Granderson was on 3rd, so they had speed on the bases to pull it off.

  230. countryclub July 11th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Every yankee pitcher has gone at least 7 innings on this road trip. Including CC pitching 7 2/3 and andy 8. That’s unbelievable length from a starting rotation.

  231. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    I think the only major injury that Lee was this year when he had a platelet-rich plasma injection for the abdominal injury. As far as I can tell, he’s never had a n injury in the minors….none that’s shown up anywhere.

  232. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:33 am

    You don’t honestly believe that Girardi was going to try stealing home, do you?

  233. GreenBeret7 July 11th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    It’s a loss against an outstanding pitcher. There was a better chance of Hernandez holding the damage to one run that any reliever out side of Rivera holding the lead…since Hernandez is one of the top 5-6 startes in baseball. The offense got hits, but, as in many losses, not when the hits were needed. Did you really think that NYYs should have scored more than once with a third of the offense sitting on the bench. How many 1-0 games do you see in a year…against any team? NYY wins today and a 6-1 West Coast swing is pretty damned impressive.

    Guess what? chamberlain had a bad game. So has every other pitcher every season….more than once.

  234. Lisa July 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Why do many of our other bullpen pitchers get sent down to work on their problems but never Joba? Not only that but Joe never has a negative word to say about him? How can you continue to basically praise this guy with a 5 plus ERA and say you have confidence in him? What pitcher is Joe watching? Rarely does Joba have a 1,2,3 inning. When does he ever get told he is going down to Triple A and has to earn his spot? I realize the Yankees are to blame for some of his problems but it appears his role is now the 8th inning so how about earning it? You have Alabadejo who was sent down and has done a really good job. Why doesn’t he get a shot to come back up and pitch?

  235. rj July 11th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Lisa – million dollar arm, 5-cent head. I really don’t think he’d react well to a demotion to AAA, nor do I think he’s performed badly enough to merit that. I just don’t want him out there in the eighth anymore as long as someone else has the hot hand (Robertson). Compare their game logs from June 1 onward – Robertson’s been much more consistent.

  236. Lisa July 11th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    RJ, what else is going to get through to him? I can’t say I agree with you on his performance. An ERA over 5 is pretty bad. Then to hear him sound like he only made one bad pitch? Come on! It wasn’t the one bad pitch on the Grand Slam! I don’t recall the sequence but I think it was a single, then an out on a fielder’s choice, wild pitch, single, behind in the count so you walk the bases loaded and then you give it up! Umm, Joba, it was more than one bad pitch! LOL! The sad part is he clearly does not see that. It’s not the first time we have heard this from him so this is clearly an on-going problem with Joba. He rarely has a clean inning!

  237. SAS July 11th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    Morning all. I just read the thread from the AM. Last night was crazy.

    However, I do think Joba should be sent down for his own good and before it can’t be done at some time in August when he has accumulated to much time in the ‘bigs’. It should be done calmly with the explanation that he needs time to get his head together and his pitches doing what he wants them to do.

    It is almost unfair to him that he won’t have this opportunity shortly and the Yankees feel he has too much talent to waste. This has nothing to do with any other pitcher we might or might not have.

    This is a business and should be run as such. One wouldn’t let this happen to any employee that a company cares about for the future.

    Joba has talent. We have seen it, both this year and in the past, but right now he is more a detriment that help to the team.

    At that point we can get a relief pitcher to help for the rest of the year, or until the swagger has returned to Joba. He will always lose games, but not in the dramatic ways he has done recentlyl

    After sleeping on it, that is my solution for right now.

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  239. Lisa July 11th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    SAS, I do agree everything should be done with calmness but is has to be done. However, it won’t be. For some reason, this kid has been deemed untouchable and I think this has made the problem even worse.
    Javy had a start skipped earlier in the year because he was pitching so poorly. Nobody sugar-coated anything with him and he had a much more impressive resume than Joba. With Joba, Joe goes out of his way to coddle him and to me it makes matter worse.
    Listen to Joba talk and he has no concept of what is going on. In his mind, he made one bad pitch. In his mind, he didn’t load the bases. You are dealing with so much more than just pitching issues. It’s not just about location. It’s like a mental disconnect and Joe and company are not helping by feeding him the “I have confidence in him and I am going to keep running him out there line!”

  240. timlaw July 11th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    If Andy pitches well the rest of the season and decides to come back next season, and if the Yanks are able to sign Lee early . You just might see the Yanks try and move Joba to take care of other needs that they have.

  241. ortforshort July 11th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Cashman’s tinkering ruined Chamberlain. Joba was lights out when he first came up. Cashman, actually believing that he knows something about the game, attempted to improve on a great success by making Chamberlain a starter, then a part time reliever, then a starter, then a reliever. All with predictable (except to the clueless Cashman) results – Chamberlain is now a mess. He’s pretty much pitched himself off of the team at this point. I don’t know if a stint in the minors can Chamberlain his mojo back, but, at this point, there’s not a whole lot of alternatives.

  242. Lisa July 11th, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Wasn’t Joba a starter in college and wanted to be a starter again? Not saying this was right but I was wondering if that was accurate. I do agree the back and forth, the fiasco that was last year did nothing but hurt the kid but Joba also has to take accountability here and I don’t think he does or has a clue. He really believes it was one bad pitch and his manager just adds to his delusions. Joe will keep going back to him and that is not the answer. At this point, I would prefer a mix and max in the 8th inning rather than just hand the 8th to Joba.

  243. Sandy July 11th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    I think our manager is so off base with this one. “I will put him back out there.” Is that a threat? Is it fair to an entire team to baby one player? Is that a statement that represents the Yankees or just a manager that screwed the kid over last year and now wants to play kiss ass with him? Face it, most people think jocks are dumb and I so disagree. The good athletes of today are very smart. They have to be. A quality pitcher needs to be highly intelligent to be a game winner. Unfortunately, I don’t think Joba has what it takes between his ears to be a major league pitcher. He makes a bad throw and you can say with confidence “he’s done.” He pouts like a two year old, his body language says it all and what does our manager do? He leaves him in there. Yep, cross your arms Joe and watch the game go to the other team. I think the team deserves better, the organization deserves better and the fans deserve better. Why don’t you want that too?

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