In their words: Remembering George Steinbrenner
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 14, 2010 
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“It goes back to the first time I ever met him down in the Gulf Coast League. I had just signed, and you know, he was this figure that’s larger-than-life. Yeah, I was a Yankee fan, so I was well aware of him and his reputation. He came up to me and talked to me by name. I was more shocked that he knew who I was, but I guess because he gave me some of his money, he had to know who I was. Right from that day he said, ‘We expect big things from you.’ I’ll always remember that, because first impressions, you never forget. He expects a lot.”
– Derek Jeter from a transcript of Tuesday’s all-star press conference
“A lot of the huff and puff and blow the house down, there was so much more to him than that. Going into the job, I certainly went in with my eyes wide open. We all witnessed what went on from day to day and how tough it was to work for this man. But I knew I was at a crossroads in my career and when I accepted the job – I never hesitated in accepting the job in ‘96 – he was a great guy to work for because all he wanted to do was win. And in doing that he certainly spent a lot of money. He felt a great obligation to the fans in New York. The players would gripe about him and I would gripe about him and all that – tried not to do it publicly – but all he wanted to do was win and that’s what the city of New York was all about.”
– Joe Torre on Sirius XM Radio
“You think about, obviously, what he’s done for the game of baseball, but obviously with the loss, you think about what he’s done for you personally. You know, he just was great to me. He always was great to me my whole career during the good times, the bad times; his family has been great to me. I always had a great relationship with him. He was always good to be around. He was tough, but he was always fair and he was great to be around.”
– Andy Pettitte from a transcript of Tuesday’s all-star press conference
“You couldn’t ask for a better owner than George Steinbrenner. He always provided everything you needed to win a championship. His passion, intensity and his attention to detail were legendary, and he expected nothing but the best from you. No one outworked him, and no one wanted to win more than he. He had a unique aura, a unique presence about him. When he walked into a room, his presence was felt immediately. I thoroughly enjoyed my times with the Yankees. It was, and is, a sports franchise like no other. Mr. Steinbrenner will be terribly missed. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Steinbrenner family.”
– Al Leiter in a statement from the YES Network
“Today we lost a great person, a great leader and a great American. There will never be anyone like George Steinbrenner. He was a winner.”
– Yankees President Randy Levine in a released statement
“I thought he was a great owner. He really got involved with the team and the players and he spent his money. He just made the Yankees like a new team again.”
– Whitey Ford on MLB Network Radio
“George Steinbrenner was a legend, a once-in-a-lifetime figure. He had tremendous vision, and the sports landscape – not just the baseball landscape – will never be the same. He had an outsized personality. While I was playing with the Orioles, and later as a Yankees analyst, I witnessed first-hand the passion for winning he exhibited, and the way New Yorkers appreciated the resources he put into producing a championship team. We’ll never see another owner like him. I will always appreciate the opportunity Mr. Steinbrenner gave me to broadcast Yankee games. I will miss him dearly.”
– Ken Singleton in a statement from the YES Network
“Opposing players and fans may have bristled at his outspoken leadership over the years, but it was only because they wished they had a Steinbrenner of their own. Mr. Steinbrenner passing comes on the morning of Major League Baseball’s All-Star Game, a contest dedicated to the fans and to the glory of the game. This is a fitting tribute, as Mr. Steinbrenner was one of the last owners who felt as much loyalty and kinship with his fans as they felt with his team. So as Americans gather this evening to watch baseball’s best — including six of his Yankees — I hope we all take a moment to remember the life and legacy of George Steinbrenner: the owner; the businessman; the husband and father; the Boss. On behalf of a grateful city and State, I wish comfort during this difficult time to Mr. Steinbrenner’s wife, Elizabeth, and children, Hank, Hal, Jessica and Jennifer. He will truly be missed.”
– New York Governor David Paterson in a released statement
“I have great respect for George, a man from whom I learned so much about leadership, motivation and accountability during my tenure with the ball club as media relations director from 1989-93. His overriding objective was to win, the sign of a true sportsman. You have to give him credit for always having the best interest of Yankee fans at heart, which was bringing a World Series winner to the Bronx, something he accomplished seven times. He bought a wilting franchise in 1973 and turned it into a worldwide brand through his vision, work ethic and overall Yankee ingenuity. He was a true friend of the Hall of Fame, and the history he helped create will always be preserved in Cooperstown.”
– Baseball Hall of Fame President Jeff Idelson in a released statement
Associated Press photo of Steinbrenner with Torre and Jeter in 1999
Why hasn’t Brian Cashman commented?
Good morning.
Here’s what I hope.
That the Yankees use the passing of Mr. Steinbrenner as EXTRA motivation to help them win # 28 as a further tribute to his memory.
And that the passing causes Cash and Stein the Younger to open the the purse a little bit wider before the trade deadline to help accomplish that goal.
I just scrolled through some of the comments from last night. I can’t believe how many people are upset because Hughes gave up 2 singles. haha, a starter gave up 2 singles. It’s the end of the world.
And how dare Girardi do what was best for his team (you know…the Yankees) and give his 3rd baseman with a bum hip (or groin or whatever it really is) a 4 day rest.
Come on…..
Not sure that this team really needs motivation to win. This team is driven as much as any team can be.
Another win for George:
George Steinbrenner died six months after the federal estate tax expired, saving his wife and four children about a half billion dollars — and essentially ensuring they can keep the Yankees.
The tax, a 45-percent hit that lapsed in January due to lawmaker bungling, is set to be renewed in 2011 — at 55 percent.
Had he died in 2009, his family would have owed about $500 million; if he died in 2011 the bill would have been $100 million more.
Forbes last year estimated Steinbrenner’s net worth at $1.1 billion.
GB-
I think everyone can always use a bit of extra motivation.
Not saying the Yanks are under motivated just that they can be “super-charged” by the passing.
Those black armbands will provide them with an everyday reminder.
Kind of a win this one for “the gipper” mentality.
Eddie Baseball -
On XM yesterday afternoon, they said Cashman declined to comment yesterday, but said the he said he would probably today. I’d imagine he wasn’t quite up to public address yesterday.
At least credit the writer of the article, or, at least change some of the words so it doesn’t doesn’t look like it was cut and pasted, because it was. It’s also about as tacky to put that up as it was when the original writer typed it up.
Sam’s column from this AM-who knew the boss liked IHOP?
http://bit.ly/9w7ec5
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 14th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Billy D -
Oh, I know George’s faults and foibles. I’d just at this time rather they be talked about by people who have some affection for him, that’s all.
I do agree that his story is more interesting because of the complexities of his personality and it was very interesting yesterday when people talked about 70s George verses George in the new millenium.
I think it speaks volumes about the man that he was able to mend fences along the way.
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Not knowing GMS at all other than books, articles, interviews (media driven) seemed to be five completely different types of people. He was a mean/cruel tyrant, a gentle benefactor to a lot of people that never knew they were the beneficiary, a family man, a baseball fanatic towards his team and a comedian/actor.
Doreen, you’re so right. He’s a fascinating case study in the human mind. I doubt that it will happen, but, a movie bio is a must see, as long as all sides are presented. There is just so much material to work with. It’s George S. Patton in a blue blazer and turtle neck.
I have no problem with an inheritance tax, but those percentages are a disgrace.
Glad “The Boss” got to give the middle finger to Federal Government on his way out.
GB
the Rays are having a senior prom for senior citizens (just like the idea from the pepsi commercial) on Wed Aug 18…think you could hook up Randy and Nurse K?
“I have no problem with an inheritance tax, but those percentages are a disgrace.”
They really are. Wasn’t all that long ago the Robbie family was pretty much forced to sell the Miami Dolphins just to pay the taxes.
upstate kate July 14th, 2010 at 9:22 am
GB
the Rays are having a senior prom for senior citizens (just like the idea from the pepsi commercial) on Wed Aug 18
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So does this mean the Yankees are going to organize a group hug for New York?
I personally don’t understand estate tax at all. Think about it, everything that was built up in that person’s lifetime was taxed, multiple times. How is it right that because that person dies the government can take over half of it? Its criminal. How many times over should the same money be taxed?
Erin
either that or CC will have to put an organic garden in the BP
I personally don’t understand estate tax at all. Think about it, everything that was built up in that person’s lifetime was taxed, multiple times. How is it right that because that person dies the government can take over half of it? Its criminal. How many times over should the same money be taxed?
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Betterliving…,
I agree with you totally!!!
Has anyone seen a quote from Reggie? Just wondered if I had missed it..
The Yankees won’t be able to avoid the grief and mourning of Bob Sheppard and George Steinbrenner when they start playing again on Friday but once the 1st pitch has been thrown, they will play all out and with passion in the 3-game series vs, the Rays.
This is an opportunity to widen the 1st place lead and they’re well aware of it.
GB7: “At least credit the writer of the article” is this in reference to what I posted at 912AM?
upstate kate July 14th, 2010 at 9:22 am
GB
the Rays are having a senior prom for senior citizens (just like the idea from the pepsi commercial) on Wed Aug 18…think you could hook up Randy and Nurse K?
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I’m shocked. SHOCKED, I TELL YOU. It’s only 9:30 AM and you’re already trying to stir up trouble, Kate. Are you trying to replace The Boss?
LMAO.
willis July 14th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Has anyone seen a quote from Reggie? Just wondered if I had missed it..
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I don’t think he’s released a statement yet. I saw a tweet yesterday that said that he was supposed to go to the parade, but pulled out. The speculation was that he was pretty broken up.
86-
I will just say these few thing in reference to your post on the estate tax.
With bad times upon us the “Robin Hood” mentality with respect to taxation becomes all the more prevalent.
Double taxation is immoral IMHO.
Kate, a far as hooking up Randy and Nurse Karloff, who are we trying to torure?
GB
just trying to provide a bit of humor after the devastating loss at the ASG last night…wait, what? It isn’t a devasting loss? hmmm you wouldn’t know from some of the comments!
Kate-
I just wanted to say that I agree with your comments about the Mornings here on the blog.
Much more mellow and enjoyable.
There is no way George Steinbrenner’s estate was set up in a way in which he would have to pay upwards of $500 million in taxes.
This is a man that turned $168,000 into billions. I’m pretty sure he has a financial planner and lawyer on the payroll.
And like I said yesterday, George does not personally own the team.
As of 1999, Yankee Global Enterprises LLC owns the team which is controlled by the Steinbrenner family and very likely jointly owned by several of the Steinbrenners.
Anybody see that warren got promoted to trenton?
Ron-
Thanks for the info. I did not see that. The M’s wanted Warren included in the non-trade for Lee so that tells you it’s not just us who
see something in him.
There is no way George Steinbrenner?s estate was set up in a way in which he would have to pay upwards of $500 million in taxes.
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Agreed. The family has been preparing for this day for a long time, I am sure.
GB7 -
I think it might be difficult to do a film about George without it becoming parody.
Doreen-
I think you’re right.
Let’s get Leslie Nielsen to play Steinbrenner and instead of “Airplane”
call it “Baseball”.
SI_JonHeyman steinbrenner funeral being planned just for immediate family for tampa. friends say saturday is likely day. #yankees
SI_JonHeyman there will be memorials/tributes later at Steinbrenner/legends field and in NYC. but funeral is planned for family only
In other minor league news.
Gary Sanchez, C: 0 for 3, 1 K, 1 E (missed catch) – he left the game after running out a ground ball in the top of the 6th … not sure what that’s about, hopefully it’s nothing serious.
It turns out that Brandon Laird’s injury may not be as bad as originally thought. He will be at the Double-A Eastern League All Star Game tomorrow. Meanwhile, word on the street according to a few emailers is that Slade Heathcott is dealing with some biceps tendinitis. No big deal, Nick Swisher had a similar issue earlier this season, CC Sabathia last season. They’re just going to take is easy with him, as always.
From RAB.
Ron-
Great news on Laird.
“A team source said after the game that Rodriguez has a slightly sore right thumb and, as a precaution, he was not going to hit in the game unless it was an extreme situation, such as a DH role in extra innings with no other players left. “We weren’t going to push it,” the source said. “Four days off for our big guy.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0tfHZHwF8
I saw the commercial for this a few days ago.
Yankees Fantasy Camp for women run by Tino! (I’ll leave the joke to someone else)
http://mlb.mlb.com/nyy/fan_for....._women.jsp
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 14th, 2010 at 9:46 am
GB7 -
I think it might be difficult to do a film about George without it becoming parody.
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It would certainly be a tough project to build, but, what a great subject. I’m figuring it would take a Cecil B. DeMille like spectacle.
SI_JonHeyman steinbrenner was transported to hospital about 12:30 am tuesday and died at 6:30 am
So it seems their was a reason AROD didn’t hit. Could this mean the Girardi bashers didn’t have the facts? I thought they knew everything because they sure act as if they do. I’m sure we will see their retractions today.
pat July 14th, 2010 at 9:56 am
I saw the commercial for this a few days ago.
Yankees Fantasy Camp for women run by Tino! (I’ll leave the joke to someone else)
http://mlb.mlb.com/nyy/fan_for….._women.jsp
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I’m guessing that special instructors will not include Jeter and Rodriguez. Don’t let Erin find out. She be demanding that Robbie Cano be there.
There’s a really great piece on Slate.com written by a former Yankee bat boy Matthew McGough.
The next time I saw Steinbrenner was in the clubhouse a few weeks later. I summoned up the courage to interrupt him as he conducted one of his purposeful walks around the clubhouse. “Boss,” I blurted. “I’m Matt, the bat boy you gave the scholarship to, to Williams. I just wanted to thank you.” He stopped and reached out and gripped my shoulders tightly with both hands. “I never could have gotten in there today,” he told me. After a moment he slapped me on the back and walked away.
LGY July 14th, 2010 at 9:55 am
?A team source said after the game that Rodriguez has a slightly sore right thumb and, as a precaution, he was not going to hit in the game unless it was an extreme situation, such as a DH role in extra innings with no other players left. ?We weren?t going to push it,? the source said. ?Four days off for our big guy.?
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That makes sense, especially considering how careful Girardi is with the slightest injury. Doesn’t sound like it’s anything to be concerned about, which is good.
I think both, Jackson and Cashman took George’s passing hard which is why you haven’t heard from them. Let’s remember that George was like a second father to Cashman and that he worked for George since being a college intern over 20 years ago.
“I think it might be difficult to do a film about George without it becoming parody.”
I think the truly outstanding film makers would love a subject like GMS and can do so with making a parody of his life. Larry David would not have the lead role in an actual movie. Complexity of character has great appeal to writers, directors, etc. They don’t come much more complex than GMS.
pat -
What kind of fantasy camp?
GreenBeret7 July 14th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I?m guessing that special instructors will not include Jeter and Rodriguez. Don?t let Erin find out. She be demanding that Robbie Cano be there.
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If Robbie is a guest instructor, I will drop everything to go to.
GB-
And for goodness sakes don’t let Erica know that Damon has been invited as a special guest instructor.
Lots of stories of George’s generosity coming out.
I really like the one about Ron Karnaugh, the 1992 Olympic swimmer. His dad died of a heart attack during the opening ceremony of the Barcelona games. George paid for his med school tuition.
http://articles.latimes.com/20.....s-20100714
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 14th, 2010 at 10:09 am
pat -
What kind of fantasy camp?
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I’m sure that Martinez’ Fantasy Camp is not the same kind that the ladies are thinking it is.
Erin, Cano will be needed to play 2nd base that year. Control yourself for the sake of the team.
GreenBeret7 July 14th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Erin, Cano will be needed to play 2nd base that year. Control yourself for the sake of the team.
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True. I got over excited. I would never want to pull him away from his day job.
# GreenBeret7 July 14th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Erin, Cano will be needed to play 2nd base that year. Control yourself for the sake of the team.
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Right, we don’t want him to come down with some sort of hip injury.
vblade July 14th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Right, we don?t want him to come down with some sort of hip injury
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LOL
No comment.
One of the funny stories about GMS was told by Willie Randolph yesterday. He was Mrs. Steinbrenner’s favorite player and she didn’t talk to GMS for 2 weeks after Randolph was allowed to sign with the Dodgers after the 1988 season.
http://www.bostondirtdogs.com prints wording of GMS from the NYDN Dec 29, 2002 calling John Henry stupid and Lucchino a sick chameleon.
GMS warned Henry that Lucchino spoke out both sides of his mouth, but has trouble talking out the front of his mouth.
It manifest the origin of the phrase “Evil Empire,” by Henry and what player transaction brought it about.
GMS also slams Henry on the Alex trade he couldn’t complete.
“Four days off for our big guy”
The phrase “big guy” screams Reggie or Swisher and neither needs to become Verducci’s new Mussina.
Doreen
I tee’d it up for ya.
Tino has been running a fantasy camp for women for years without ever knowing it.
how big is the name of George M. Steinbrenner? The last time that there was this much national media attention paid to a person was with the passing of a head of state.
If Girardi didn’t want Alex to play, he shouldn’t have put him on the roster. I’m sure Alex wouldn’t have minded spending some extra time with Ms. Diaz.
Great post, unbelievable to consider the effect that The Boss had. Found this heartfelt tribute to Mr. Steinbrenner this morning, might be worth a read for Yankee fans.
http://www.lessthismorethat.co.....-more-boss
RIP, Mr. Steinbrenner
“how big is the name of George M. Steinbrenner? The last time that there was this much national media attention paid to a person was with the passing of a head of state.”
That’s part of it. He transcended baseball. Plus, it’s kind of a slow news week so that’s part of it as well.
All the good that George Steinbrenner did probably wouldn’t have been possible without the passionate and driven personality that occasionally rubbed folks the wrong way. Its the ying and yang of such things.
I hope these the stories of his generosity continue to come to light because in the end what you do to help others is what matters…and it seems George did his fair share in that area. He was a true American original.
You really want the big guy taking an AB with a sore thumb, in an exhibition game?
I don’t think it is anything serious where he needed to be replaced on the roster, but why push it unless he had to have an AB?
Check out the ESPN NY article on the memorial patches the Yanks will wear in honor of George and Bob.
I don’t want to sound disrespectful, but the Steinbrenner patch is atrocious, and will be worn above the interlocking NY on the left breast of the home uniform!!!!
Like Varitek’s “C” – just an ugly place to stich a patch on a baseball uniform.
An armband or a sleeve patch would have worked fine.
This smells like Randy Levine’s over-the-top handiwork.
Looking forward to the Rays series.
I have BWS.
Imo girardi wanted to give the team a solid stretch of time off to prepare for the second half of the season.
With arods age & injury it makes sense.Cant fault girardi even though it would of been nice too see arod get in in some capacity.
GreenBeret7 July 14th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 14th, 2010 at 10:09 am
pat -
What kind of fantasy camp?
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I’m sure that Martinez’ Fantasy Camp is not the same kind that the ladies are thinking it is.
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lmfao
Never seen Josh Johnson pitch before last night.
I thought Price and him were the most impressive of the evening.
Facing them seemed almost unfair.
MTU,
Agree 100 percent about Johnson. Sick stuff and such presence on the mound. Too bad he plays for the Marlins as so few get to see him. 1.70 ERA?
George’s funeral is supposedly a private family mourning but the Captain took a red eye out of L.A. directly to Tampa last night. I suspect he’ll be one of an invited few that will be with the family.
I was impressed with how uncomfortable Pettitte made Ethier and Holliday look. An easy single up the middle and then getting Ramirez on the roller to Jeter. If Pettitte’s 2nd half is close to the 1st half, he’ll win the Cy Young.
JM-
The way JJ threw last night I can see why he would have that ERA.
He was simply overpowering. Big dude. Like a Niemann with much, much better stuff.
He was painting at 98 or so. Wowza.
Josh Johnson is one Marlin that’s going nowhere in any kind of fire sale. The team is in the process of getting a new stadium built and selling off quality players is no way to rebuild a fanbase.
Look for Bobby V. or Buck Showalter to be at the helm next year.
GB-
Andy has traditionally been a great second half pitcher.
If he stays healthy no reason he can’t do as you hope.
Johnson is what Dellin Betances could become. That’s his type of arm and stuff. In about 2 years, there will be much gnashing of teeth and crying by baseball about unfair practices from the NNYs.
MTU,
If I were taking a starter for the next 10 years then Johnson would be a finalist for sure. He’s really good and has the body type that should allow him to be good for a long time barring a freak injury.
Yeah, Johnson is the centerpiece of their franchise and they just extended him for four years. He’s not going anywhere. But man, it sure was great to see him pitch. Big dude, 6’7″ I think, power and precise location. MTU, you are right. That just ain’t fair. LOL.
GB-
JJ looked like the size of Shrek out there, and just as scary.
I know Betances is a huge guy also. Hope your advanced scouting on him turns out to be spot on.
Blake-
JJ already has the TJ out of the way.
Can you imagine throwing like he does after TJ ?
Whoa !
# GreenBeret7 July 14th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Johnson is what Dellin Betances could become. That’s his type of arm and stuff. In about 2 years, there will be much gnashing of teeth and crying by baseball about unfair practices from the NNYs.
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Wow, GB7, that’s what you think Betances’ ceiling is? Can’t wait to see him pitch!
MTU, Betances is just huge, good and young. Still not sure about what Brackman as a starter or reliever/closer type, but, he’s got that kind of stuff. That’s part of an imposing young rotation for years. That doesn’t including those that are still here and those just behind.
GB-
I have heard many are very excited about what they are seeing from
Betances. I have never seen him. I take your word on his potential.
I am not as certain on Brackman. He still seems to have control issues. His stuff is fantastic though. Hope his command comes around.
Who are the others of which you speak ? Not aware of any other power type arms.
Jeter had planned on jetting out right after the game even before GMS death.
The funeral is planned for Sat. for immediate family. I think Jeter has a game that day. Old-timers is that day, too?
Stew & Skip arguing who is more impt in the 2nd half Cano & Ortiz. Skip has really hitched his wagon to Papi’s star.
Not saying that who Betances is, only that he has that stuff. He could become Alan Horne.
Horne, by the way, did not have surgery for the completely torn labrum, but, had PRP injections and the labrum is healed at 85% according to doctors.
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/
Pettitte was really impressive last night.
Most of the other guys who pitched well were just overpowering the hitters with big time fastballs in the shadows.
Pettitte went out there and just completely fooled the guys he faced.
GB-
Horne and Garcia just couldn’t stay healthy. They both had great potential especially Garcia.
Who are the others you were referring to. People like Stoneburner ?
No other super power type arms I am aware of.
Such a tough go of it for Alan Horne with the injuries. Didn’t his Dad post on here for a while??
GB-
before I forget. Let me wish you the best on your upcoming Tampa exam.
Hope it is 100% perfect. Sorry I can’t help you with Wratchet. If you want I’d be glad to lend you my Troll cloaking device if you think it would do you any good.
Warren and Stoneburner, followed shortly there after by Banuelos, though, I believe Warren will go in a trade. Ramirez is just behind Banuelos. The league will be peppered with former Yankee catchers and pitchers.
Rodg, I’m not sure about Horne’s dad, but, somebody claiming to be family did. Not sure if it was legitimate or not, though.
Jeter had planned on jetting out right after the game even before GMS death.
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mel,
I heard that too. Jeter was going to Tampa for 2 days and was planning on seeing George while he was there.
Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, MTU. all will be just fine if I can outrun She-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named. She’s scary.
GB-
You know I have been following Warren. Just got promoted to trenton I think.
Though those guys have the potential to be very good with the possible exception of Stoneburner they are not really what I would call pure power pitchers. Doesn’t meant they can’t be great especially Man-Ban.
It may just be a matter of how one chooses to define power though.
For me it is 95 mph and above consistently. I think Betances and Brackman can do that.
GB-
No thanks necessary. I’m in your corner.
“Stew & Skip arguing who is more impt in the 2nd half Cano & Ortiz. Skip has really hitched his wagon to Papi’s star.”
I may agree with Skip.
With all the other parts the Sox are missing, a loss of Ortiz might hurt them more than a loss of Cano would hurt the Yankees.
Pettite did look Great last night. His cutter has really developed into one of the better pitches in baseball. He’s a better pitcher now than at any time in his career IMO and could probably do this a couple more years if he wanted to.
Warren will be a pitcher to watch for over the next year or so. He could be a 4-5 type pitcher with NYYs and maybe higher with others. Flesh out the bullpen with the other kids that aren’t traded if possible.
Loopy is on Cowherd..
Blake-
If you are a fan of pitching, or a student the Maddux’s of the world are every bit as fascinating as the Feller’s but still no where near as sexy.
There is just something about those 100mph FB’s.
Jeter looked good last night taking pitches (he walked once and would have walked a second time if not for the umpire’s bad call). He also singled the only time he swung at the first pitch.
Why can’t he do that for the Yankees when the games count?
GB–What makes you think Warren would be the one potentially on the trading block? Are you thinking he would go for a reliever?
GB-
The M’s wanted Warren included in the Lee trade.
It may be that the BP is where Brackman is headed. I am interested in guys who not only have the stuff but the command.
I like strike throwers like our friend Phil Coke. A relief pitcher who is prone to walking people is like an accident waiting to happen.
“Jeter had planned on jetting out right after the game even before GMS death.”
Ever since his NY tax problems, he seems to flee to FL on off days to establish residency.
MTU,
I’m a fan of all types and styles of great pitching…but you’re right….there is.
Blake-
The interesting thing is that no matter how great the stuff a Pitcher really only reaches their full potential, if ever, when they stop being just a thrower. Some guys just don’t get there.
MTU,
Very true. A 100 MPH fastball may be the most exciting split second in sports but in reality where its thrown is infinitly more important.
Blake-
The very best ones. The Great ones can do both. They can pitch and they can overpower. Those types are simply not fair. Freaks of nature like “Secretariat”.
Strasburg may turn out to be one another one of them.
Not sure that NYYs will move Warren for a relief pitcher. There are none that I know of that are available that would be worth that trade.
GB-
I agree with you on Warren and any trades for an ordinary RP.
Too good to waste on something like that.
MTU (aka GBURL) July 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Blake-
The interesting thing is that no matter how great the stuff a Pitcher really only reaches their full potential, if ever, when they stop being just a thrower. Some guys just don’t get there.
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True. A case in point, Joba Chamberlain. A thrower – not a pitcher.
pat,
Yes, he had a case. But his first point was bad. Brought up the home run derby and how he asked to be in it and everyone was looking up to him and blah, blah.
as for Jeter-when he mentioned that he was going to Tampa, my first thought was wallpaper samples.
Are they gonna have a Yankeography on what Jeter had to say about George.Every photo or interview has to be with Jeter or mention Jeter at least 5 times.I still haven’t heard on what Mo had to say.
Damn this site and every other site put’s way too much Jeter $hit.He can hit a bloop single at anytime…..wow.
Twenty-one year old Koufax=Thrower
Twenty-five year old Koufax=Pitcher
The ability to throw is God given, the ability to pitch can be significantly improved.
A young Rich Gossage and Terry Forster had the same issues as Chamberlain. Weight, immaturity and mechanics, at the same age.
Austin-
Don’t forget one of the best examples ever- Nolan Ryan.
Olney telling the George/Cashman/Pettitte story.
Cashman was ordered to find the best offer, and Andy was almost a Philly. But Cashman talked George out of the trade.
Ever since his NY tax problems, he seems to flee to FL on off days to establish residency.
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To establish Florida residency, all Jeter needs is a valid Florida drivers license, a voter registration card, and deeds filed in Tampa for his property. Between the offseason, spring training, and 3 visits to play the Rays in St. Pete, he gets 6 months of residency.
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Brackman – was hitting as high as 99 ( and several 97s) in his last start in Trenton. Gave up a couple of runs but did not seem it was entirely his fault. His walks rates are way, way down since the start of the year. Give him some time to become a pitcher. He is older but less experienced.
Betances – was removed after a long inning (in which he gave up some walks and runs) in his last start. Any word on whether he left due to injury or just pitch count etc. Prior to this start he has been crushing the Florida State League.
The Yankees now have a bunch of middle of the rotation guys cruising through the system. Macallister, Nova, Phelps in AAA
Warren, Noesi in AA
Wow…Its funny but its starting to feel like a close family just passed away. My prayers are with the family & RIP Boss. Funny but I cant imagine George doing anything in peace. Probably in Heaven giving some angels orders & he is with his favorite manager now Billy Martin.
I dont know how long the kids will hold the team and to what level of passion & intensity that George had through all the years. My only hopes are that if they do sell someone like a Trump would buy the team.
Another NY icon who has a burning desire for winning at all costs. Listen to the LT interview on Yankeeography.
AAA All star game tonight at 7:00 on MLB.
We need a bat and relief help, how about Berkman and Lyon fron Houston, they make decent money but shouldn’t cost us much in prospects. Berkman will be about 40% of his $14.5m contract and Lyon is 40% of his $4m contract. It’ll cost $8m plus a $2m buyout at yr end for Berkman and $4m next yr for Lyon which is market. Berkman can switch hit, has power, high ops, deosn’t strike out a lot, is a veteran who really wants to win and can’t in Houston. He can’t run or field but he’d make a better DH than Johnson was. Lyon is a solid bullpen guy, far better than Joba, and would be a very happy addition.