Game 90: Yankees vs. Rays
Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on Jul 17, 2010 
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YANKEES (57-32)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Francisco Cervelli C
Brett Gardner LF
A.J. Burnett RHP
vs. Rays
RAYS (54-35)
Ben Zobrist RF
Carl Crawford LF
Evan Longoria 3B
Carlos Pena 1B
Matt Joyce DH
John Jaso C
B.J. Upton CF
Jason Bartlett SS
Reid Brignac 2B
Jeff Niemann RHP
vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 4:10 p.m. EDT/FOX
UMPIRES: HP D.J. Reyburn, 1B Marvin Hudson, 2B Jim Wolf, 3B Derryl Cousins (crew chief).
WEATHER: It’s a balmy 94 degrees and partly sunny. The PA just played a song about it being a beautiful day for baseball. I’m not sure about that, but it probably looks nice on TV. Anyway, there’s a heat advisory in effect until 6 p.m. as well as a slight chance of a thunderstorm this evening.
IN THE MICK OF TIME: With his team down a run and time running out, Mickey Rivers ripped a two-hopper off the wall in right-center for a two-run double. His Bombers beat the Clippers 3-2 on the walk-off hit at the 64th annual Old-Timers’ Day. Ron Guidry was the winner; Al Downing was the loser. More importantly, it looked like everyone had a good time.
PADDING THEIR LEAD: As for the current Yankees, they moved three games up on the Rays in the AL East race after last night’s thrilling 5-4 walk-off win. They also lead the Red Sox by 6 1/2 games. Of course, the Yankees still own the best record in baseball, but just as impressively they are a superb 21-11 against division opponents this season.
A.J. IN THE EI-LAND OF THE BEHOLDER: Depending on the month, you’ve probably had very different feelings about A.J. Burnett this season. With pitching coach Dave Eiland away dealing with an undisclosed personal matter, Burnett flopped in June, going 0-5 with an 11.35 ERA. He lost all five starts and didn’t make it past four innings in three of them. But Burnett’s fortunes turned once Eiland returned to the club. He is 1-0 with a 1.32 ERA in his last two starts. Just as importantly, Burnett has regained his command; he has allowed just 14 baserunners in 13.2 IP.
HONORING SHEPPARD: The Yankees played a video tribute to Bob Sheppard, who died on Sunday at 99, prior to the Old-Timers’ Day introductions. His widow, Mary, was announced last and presented with a bouquet of flowers. The club will have a special presentation during the seventh-inning stretch of today’s game to honor Sheppard as well.
Update, 4:12 p.m.: The game is underway. Question: Has A-Rod worn tape lately on his right thumb? I haven’t noticed it. It’s on there now.
Update, 4:17 p.m.: Rays lead 1-0 on an RBI double by Carlos Pena. Evan Longoria scored from first after he singled to left with one out.
Pena’s double was poorly played in RF by Swisher. He failed to cut off the ball before it reached the wall and then overthrew cutoff man Robinson Cano. Pena was trotting into second and did not take advantage. A faster or more alert runner may have advanced to third.
Update, 4:35 p.m.: Bad A.J.? Maybe. He hasn’t been that wild, but he already trails 3-0 after that two-run homer by Brignac. A fan in the RF seats made a nice toss back onto the field that nearly caught 2B ump Jim Wolf napping.
The Yank bats will have work to do against Niemann.
Update, 4:53 p.m.: And they’ve begun in earnest. Gardner just slashed a two-run single to make it 3-2. Jeter is now at the plate with two on and one out. Gardner’s single came on a two-strike pitch.
Update, 4:54 p.m.: Something wrong with Burnett? Dustin Moseley is warming in the pen.
Update, 4:57 p.m.: Burnett will pitch the third. The bullpen is quiet for now.
Update, 5:01 p.m.: HBP of Longoria by Burnett, who followed it up by bouncing a wild pitch to Pena. A.J. has lost it faster than Dustin Johnson at this year’s U.S. Open. (Golf joke.)
Update, 5:04 p.m.: After an RBI single by Pena, Joe Girardi came to the mound with Gene Monahan to get Burnett. He leaves trailing 4-2 after two-plus innings pitched. Because Monahan came to the mound, I’m sure Moseley will get some time to warm up here due to an injury.
Update, 5:12 p.m.: The bat you want? The bat you need? MLB.com says the Yanks are showing interest in Wes Helms: http://mlb.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/07/yankees_show_interest_in_helms.html
Update, 5:17 p.m.: Yanks just played a Yogi video between innings followed with “We miss you Yogi” written on the screen. Nice touch.
Update, 5:18 p.m.: The line for bad A.J.: 2+ IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 2 HP, 1 WP. Still no word on his injury.
Update, 5:41 p.m.: Credit Mosely for escaping a two-on, no-out jam there. He retired Crawford, Longoria and Pena consecutively to keep the score 4-2. Yanks will now come to bat here in the last of the fourth. Like yesterday, it feels bleak here but they are right in the game.
Update, 5:52 p.m.: Big spot here for Jeter. Two on, two out, Yanks down two.
Update, 5:53 p.m.: Well, that was quick. Jeter went first-pitch swinging. He hit it hard, but grounded out to Brignac at second.
Update, 5:56 p.m.: * INJURY UPDATE * Per Yankees media relations, Burnett left today’s game with lacerations on his right hand. No word as to how he developed the lacerations.
Update, 6:09 p.m.: The mighty Brignac strikes again. This time it’s a three-run homer to RCF. The Rays now lead 8-2 going into the bottom of the fifth
In other news, Joe West would not enjoy this game.
Update, 6:17 p.m.: A Teixeira HR cut the deficit to 8-3. Chad Gaudin is now on to pitch for the Yankees.
Update, 6:33 p.m.: So a homer by Posada has now cut it to 9-4. It’s still sleepy in here, but Niemann has hardly been Strasburgian. There’s plenty of time.
Update, 6:34 p.m.: Kim Jones is reporting that Cashman said A.J. tripped walking up the stairs and cut his hand bracing his fall.
Of course, this happens to all of us. We just don’t rake in $18 mil a year based on what we do with said hand.
Update, 6:45 p.m.: Encore presentation of Bob Sheppard singing Mother’s Day staple “Let Me Call You Sweetheart.” The video replaces “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” for the day. Naturally, the moment was met with applause from the crowd.
Update, 6:50 p.m.: Jeter’s leadoff single in the seventh snapped an 0-for-10 skid.
Update, 7:03 p.m.: The Yankees actually had an excellent chance that inning to close the gap but the score remains 9-4. Cano grounded out with two on to end the inning.
Update, 7:08 p.m.: Pena just hit home run No. 19 on the season and the cavalcade to the exits began. Rays lead 10-4. Pena now has a season-high four hits today. That is not a surprise considering the egregious .201 average.
Update, 7:30 p.m.: Another narrow escape for the Rays, as Jeter is retired on the very rare 4-U. His ground ball to the right side just evaded Pena, but Brignac, who has played a terrific game, speared it and beat Jeter to the bag by half a step. So the Rays head to the ninth up 10-4.
Update, 7:47 p.m.: Yanks fall, 10-5. The game took 3:35. We’ll talk here in a bit.
J. Alba will bomb up here. They don’t want to degrade his trade value. That’s why he’s not been called up.
“The Ei-land of the beholder”?, Josh. That’s a worse pun than they ever had on Rocky and Bullwinkle.
I love it. Nothing is better than bad puns. Thank you.
The FOX baseball contact sucks….I’m stuck with the LA / St. Louis game, and I cannot get the game on MLB .com…….Radio with Suzie & Sterling
Maybe because Albie’s a righty? And they need a lefty?
While the Yankees bullpen has been a mess the team still has the best record in baseball.
In other words, the EIG is EXTREMELY overrated in baseball. When your starters regularly give you 7 innings a night the bullpen becomes less and less important.
Are we going to get to see the special tribute to Mr. Sheppard in the 7th inning?
No Buck! Thank Mo, we only have to hear Timmy Mac.
# Brian July 17th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
J. Alba will bomb up here. They don’t want to degrade his trade value. That’s why he’s not been called up.
Thanks BRAIN !!! ( not )
Pat,
Some people have posted online sites where you can watch the game.
Try this link and click on the FOX link.
http://www.atdhe.net/watchtv.html
Well, since the usual cast of idiot trolls will be swarming after the first Tampa hit or fiest Yankee out, I’ll leave it with those brave souls that can stomach them.
Bye GB
rb… I don’t actually know the answer to that question. I don’t know that the PR guys would either because the game’s on FOX.
Okay,
I wasn’t going to post in the game thread, but McCarver already ticked me off talking about the Yankees want Cervelli to catch Posada.
No, Tim – Posada caught last night . It’s a day game. Check the stats this year. Sheesh.
I may have to forego watching this game and just check in occasionally. that’s how much I can’t stand McCarver and Fox’s coverage of the Yankees.
Oh, and athe Yankees want to feed off last night today; no mention that they are very difficult to beat at YS.
The balance in the Fox coverage is horrendous.
So, rant over.
Catch you all later.
GreenBeret7… It is my understanding that the notes after the weather and blog headlines are solely intended for the purpose of making terrible puns. I’m glad you see it the same way and that I could be of service.
Was that AJ’s changeup? I am sure McCarver has no idea what he is talking about .A “splitter”….lol
Excellent rant Doreen
Thanks Josh. I imagine Yes will show it on the Yes Postgame.
How did Swisher not cut that ball off ?
That pitch was right down the middle to Pena. I didn’t think Longoria would score on that.
Nice meatball! This $%@&* should stick to shaving cream pies!
A nice changeup to Crawford, but a mistake to Pena.. Thats Burnett in a nutshell
I think Swisher forgot Cano was playing in shallow RF because of the shift, because the throw sailed over Cano’s head.
WTH is McCarver talking about AJ’s changeup like it is some sort of mysterious pitch like a gyroball or something.
lol at McCarver. “I would of put it on his profile but I didn’t know he threw it.”
C. Pena is only batting 0.203.
Yet he beats AJ.
Kay is engaged? To who?
Kay engaged to News 12 anchor Jodi Applegate
Sad to watch Jeter now. He’s fallen off a Cliff like Bernie did in 2003. He’s just giving away at bats.
And Jeter grounds out to open the game for the 90th time.
Niemann is having a fantastic season. He was a high draft pick out of Rice a few years back. He is 27 years old or about 3 years older than Hughes and this has been his first real dominant season. People were throwing around the word bust with him until recently. Just shows you have to be patient with these young starters especially in the AL East.
At end of season:
DJ’s batting average will be below 250
Arod’s batting average will be below 230
Can’s batting average will be below 270
wanna bet?
Dont’ bury Jeter just yet
You have to wonder if jeter got hurt. He is for sure not right. Everything about his demeanor/performances say so.
Jeter and Arod are not showing signs of improvement in the second half.
A-Rod and Jeter really look old….
Good thing A-Rod only has like 7 years remaining on his contract…
Do you guys think they will hit a hot streak?
Jeter is 36, as great as he is, there will be decline. The question is when? Too early to say this season
Man these game threads have really fallen off a cliff…. the Yanks are a first place team who happen to be losing 1-0 in the 1st inning. Step back from the edge. Jeez…
slow and sluggish start, as usual.
Yanks76 July 17th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
At end of season:
DJ’s batting average will be below 250
Arod’s batting average will be below 230
Can’s batting average will be below 270
wanna bet?
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Whos Can? I hope you’re not talking abotu the guy hitting .340….
“WEATHER: It’s a balmy 94 degrees and partly sunny. The PA just played a song about it being a beautiful day for baseball. I’m not sure about that, but it probably looks nice on TV. Anyway, there’s a heat advisory in effect until 6 p.m. as well as a slight chance of a thunderstorm this evening.”
That’s the forecast in Florida for about 3+ straight months. Late fall/winter/spring sort of make up for it though
Cano under .270?
I’ll take you up on that bet.
This is the 2nd game of the 2nd half, little early to have the fork sticking out of Jeter’s back.
LGY……Thanks , I found the game…….
channelsurfing.net usually has online feeds for sporting event also if anyone needs one but you have to use internet explorer
Come on AJ. Keep focus with 2 outs. these 2 out rallys hurt.
Come on…why does AJ fall apart with 2 outs?
Great great news: Indians beat the Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ugly start
Great game going for AJ. And Cervelli is horrible at throwing out runners.
Jeter batted .281 in may, .243 in june and sofar .178 in july..
btw – the ugly AJ has returned I guess
rage, ball is going to fly with this heat
Like that. come on AJ.
AJ is utterly incapable of pitching with 2 outs.
Not sure what the numbers are, but it just seems to me that the # 8 & 9 hitters have been having a field day vs. the Yanks pitchers
AJ is dreadful with 2 outs. It has hurt him in a lot of starts this season.
RS disturbing trend, 2 quick outs and he falls apart
Well, at leas it’s clear that Burnett is the fifth starter, and in the playoffs will be rendered insignificant.
does aj realize you need 3 outs in each inning and not two?
History will show that the Yankees never fare well on Old Timers Day.
Luckily, this Niemann guy is a chump.
Wait, what?
Major league hitters enjoy pitches right down the middle. Something AJ has not figured out for much of this year.
yanks can’t play defense, they have imploded
It’s been one time through the order and I don’t think I can bear to watch any more of AJ.
This is where not having Mitre back yet hurts the team.
Everyone, say it with me now:
burnett.
is.
horrible.
lulz July 17th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Luckily, this Niemann guy is a chump.
Wait, what?
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They can hit Niemann. Yes, He’s having a good year and is solid but he’s not unhittable. AJ just has to keep them in the game and not implode here.
A.J.: Throw over to first base 100 times and make Niemann sit in the dugout for an extended period of time. Do something positive.
Mitre was with the team yesterday – did they call him up after his rehab assignment?
what does mitre have to do with this exactly? they arent taking burnett out wiht 3 runs in the 2nd inning.
Well that was not good at all.
Let’s go, bats!
so much for the Dave-Eiland-is-back-AJ-will-return-to-greatness theory.
I have never seen a pitcher beat himself more than AJ does. Wild pitches, hitting batters, walks. When he isn’t lights out he is dreadful.
I would rather have Louisiana Lightning pitching right now.
Alright. Start chipping away. If Burnett can hold things form here on out I like the Yanks chances. The ball is going to fly in the heat. They can easily make up 3 runs.
Mitre hasn’t been activated yet, I think he was supposed to throw a bullpen today. Maybe he will be activated tomorrow, especially if Gaudin or Moseley has to take one for the team this afternoon if AJ can’t settle down for a number of innings.
3 runs with 8 hitting innings is not insurmountable
Kevin, do you want us to cue you when the Yankees are up to bat?
Pat M,
I said this yesterday, #9 hitters have a sOPS+ of 137 vs the Yankees. That means they are roughly 18% better than league average vs the yankees.
Gardner would’ve gotten that.
I would rather have Don Zimmer pitching. Anyone but this tattooed POS.
Cano has so much swag
Lou-in-Vermont July 17th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
so much for the Dave-Eiland-is-back-AJ-will-return-to-greatness theory.
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He had 2 great starts before this. He can still have a quality start. This isn’t the end of the world.
I thought that was gone
Bring Robi home!
jerkface-
9 hitters and the bottom of the order do seem to have success against the yanks. i don’t know if it was more than other teams but the stats show that is so. do you think it’s just a concentration problem by our pitchers relaxing before facing the top again. Maybe it has something to do with how powerful AL East lineups can be that they relax for a batter or two that aren’t as great of hitters and thus throw more hittable pitchers?
Kay devouring that dog
A.J. Burnett really is a 5th starter at this point. He is the worse starter on the staff.
I can’t wait till Hughes moves up the ranks and the Yankees pick up Cliff Lee next season.
Smart move not to pitch carefully to Granderson given that Cervelli is up next. Be a good time for Cisco to get hot again.
Alright Cisco lets go. 8 strikes to 14 balls for Niemann. He’s a little rusty out of the gate early. Let’s chip away here!
Kevin… Mitre threw a side today. He will be activated when he recovers from it, which I would suspect is Tuesday.
They were doing so well re: payroll until today.
Good eye, Cervelli.
Let’s go GGBG.
Come on GGBG
I’m telling all of you right here and now:
The Yankees should offer Derek Jeter no more than two years and $20 million a year because he won’t collect his 3,000th hit in another uniform and is no longer good enough to command three or more years.
Jeter has ZERO leverage for a new contract.
The Yanks MUST sign Carl Crawford for LF and get rid of Granderson because getting Crawford means they can send a not so subtle message to Jeter that he either stays for what is offered or he can sign elsewhere because Crawford/Swisher or Gardner/Crawford is a solid table-setting combination. You better believe the Yanks would sign or trade for a shortstop who would at least be a better, younger defender than Jeter. Of course this new guy would have to/most likely bat ninth, but that wouldn’t be so bad if Crawford protected him in the leadoff slot. The Yanks have to sign a DH with or without Jeter so Crawford, a new DH, and a Gold Glove contending SS isn’t so bad.
A.L. teams who can’t afford Jeter: Minnesota.
A.L. teams who can’t afford Jeter who Jeter would never sign with anyway cuz they suck or are mediocre: Kansas City, Cleveland, Toronto, Oakland (former two suck, latter two are mediocre.)
A.L. teams he’d never sign with unless he’d want to be branded a traitor: Boston, Tampa Bay, Los Angeles.
A.L. teams who could afford him but would need to pass on him for pitching: Baltimore (Jeter would never sign/bury himself with them), Seattle (now that they don’t have Cliff Lee), Texas (who will lose Cliff Lee to the Yankees or someone else cuz I don’t see him staying with Texas.)
A.L. teams who could afford him: Detroit, Chicago.
I defy him to sign and win a World Series championship with the Tigers, Chi-Sox, or an N.L. team.
gardner should have leaned into that like bartlett did in the top of the inning
burnett stinks
nice brett
Hoot, hoot!
cookiepuss…. it is not your money so who cares?
Gardner!!!! Come on Jeet. Shut everybody up.
I wonder if AJ meatballs is hurt? Moseley is warming up…
so moseley is up in the pen. burnett hurt?
Mosely?
Is Burnett injured ?
Cookiepuss July 17th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
I’m telling all of you right here and now:
The Yankees should offer Derek Jeter no more than two years and $20 million a year because he won’t collect his 3,000th hit in another uniform and is no longer good enough to command three or more years.
Jeter has ZERO leverage for a new contract.
The Yanks MUST sign Carl Crawford for LF and get rid of Granderson because getting Crawford means they can send a not so subtle message to Jeter that he either stays for what is offered or he can sign elsewhere because Crawford/Swisher or Gardner/Crawford is a solid table-setting combination. You better believe the Yanks would sign or trade for a shortstop who would at least be a better, younger defender than Jeter. Of course this new guy would have to/most likely bat ninth, but that wouldn’t be so bad if Crawford protected him in the leadoff slot. The Yanks have to sign a DH with or without Jeter so Crawford, a new DH, and a Gold Glove contending SS isn’t so bad.
A.L. teams who can’t afford Jeter: Minnesota.
A.L. teams who can’t afford Jeter who Jeter would never sign with anyway cuz they suck or are mediocre: Kansas City, Cleveland, Toronto, Oakland (former two suck, latter two are mediocre.)
A.L. teams he’d never sign with unless he’d want to be branded a traitor: Boston, Tampa Bay, Los Angeles.
A.L. teams who could afford him but would need to pass on him for pitching: Baltimore (Jeter would never sign/bury himself with them), Seattle (now that they don’t have Cliff Lee), Texas (who will lose Cliff Lee to the Yankees or someone else cuz I don’t see him staying with Texas.)
A.L. teams who could afford him: Detroit, Chicago.
I defy him to sign and win a World Series championship with the Tigers, Chi-Sox, or an N.L. team.
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I think you shoudl take the “cookie” out of your name and then it would perfectly suit you
When was the last time Jeter hit a ball hard. Seems like everything he has hit during the past month has been a slow dribbler. If he even hits it, that is….
Goodness Derek. At least he didn’t hit into a DP and Swish can bat with runners on.
first inning yesterday. it was an out but it was smoked. no?
Jeter is really looking bad of late. He better not look for some big time contract at the end of the year. And I’m a big fan of Jeter.
Is Burnett injured??
at least they got 2.
burnett hurt
Boy Jeter looks lost at the plate right now…. Not even close to the pitches he swings at
ac1, gardner leaned into the pitch with his bat instead, lol
Boy Jeter is really struggling…:-(
Jeter has been a black hole in the lineup, I think he is hurt. He istn’t even making hard outs. When was the last time Jeter hit a screamer line drive. He has to be hurt.
Ugg. Captain looked pretty pathetic at the plate. I don’t know what is going on with him, but he looks like he’s fallen off the shelf.
AJ probably should spend the first hour or two before games drinking Jack Daniels, he might pitch better that way. Certainly couldn’t do much worse.
I am a huge Derek Jeter fan. I was at the first game he ever played in the bigs, and saw his first hit (Seattle in ’95), and I kept the ticket stub. But he has been horrible this year. Beyond terrible as a leadoff hitter. He should be batting 8th or 9th. It is just sad watching him this season. He looks awful. Just pathetic.
AJ coming back for the 3rd inning
yeah 2 rbis is better than the 1 he would have had by getting hit, but still. at the time, it seemed like a good idea.
I’m starting to worry about Jeter.
this is about as bad as I have ever seen Jeter, including his 2004 year when he started off so bad………by this time that year he was tearing the cover off it………..like someone else said, I can’t remember the last time he hit the ball hard…………he looks like he’s 45 out there right now………….I hope he turns it around soon
Ledger_Yankees Now nobody’s up in the bullpen. AJ comes walking back out to the mound.
Maybe Moseley got bored out there, not like he ever pitches. Or maybe Girardi is just preemptively striking against Bad AJ resuming lighting the game on fire in the 3rd inning by having him throw?
jeter hit a few pretty deep in seattle too.
Jete is swinging like an old timer the last few games
raise your hand if you think AJ won’t give back at least 1 of the 2 runs……
so aj cant get the curve down
Is Burnett hurt, or was Girardi just sick looking at him? I keep the sound on mute when the game is on Fox, I can’t stand to listen the babble from these idiots.
Girardi looks like he’s not going to stick with Burnett for too long. With the bullpen well rested and Andy pitching tomorrow, I don’t think he’s going to let him give up 6+ runs trying to get innings out of him. At least I hope not.
Burnett is so wild. You just never know what you are going to get from him.
Mickey Rivers hits the ball better than Jeter has lately.
AJ is just… well he is a really really strange pitcher….
He is like the weatherforecast… Really unreliable
tomorrow is going to be tough. we have pettitte, but they have price… would be nice to win today.
is it me or does AJ look like he would rather be somewhere else right now?
The scary thing is that if Jeter continues to struggle you know Girardi won’t move him down on the batting order
please don’t immediately give the runs back…
I think he’s batter to batter with A.J. here. It’s clear that, once again, he’s got nothing.
So basically he can only throw his fastball for strikes today, no idea where the curve is going. Always a recipe for disaster
A.J needs a therapist.
Moseley should be warming up shortly. AJ is like Joba when he doesn’t have it…he isn’t finding it. This game will be out of reach very soon.
THROW A CHANGE UP…
This is your starting American League All-star shortstop? What a joke! .269, no power, unclutch and limited range. Wow hope he doesn’t sign with someone else after this season. Gonna miss that leadership.
Time to think about taking Burnett out. If you want a chance to win this game you can never count on Burnett.
Can’t wait for Cliff Lee next year and Hughes moving up the ranks. So Burnett will be buried in the 5th spot.
I think you have to go to Moseley here. Whoever they bring in can’t be any worse than this.
There is a place for pitchers who can’t execute their pitches. It’s called the minor leagues.
Girardi are u a moron y let him go out injured
Ah, a sighting of the rare “Battling AJ”
get him out of there……
I have turned mlb.tv off… a hit batter, a wild pitch and then a single….. just bizarre…
Hitters can just wait in AJ’s fastball, because he has no curveball today and no trust in seldom used change.
The fact that Cashman needed to trade for Lee is a direct indictment on Burnett’s suckiness!
AJ looked confused. Phantom injury so Moseley gets all the warm up time he needs?
He pitches this way when he’s not injured.
Good grief Cervelli.
He has been atrocious defensively for about 2 months now.
Yet people bash Posada’s defense every chance they get.
Girardi is a joke. If he knows AJ is hurt why is he pitching and allowing him to give this game away. What a joke.
well if someone was bound to get hurt, maybe it will help burnett to have a couple weeks to rest and work on some things….
this guy is turning into an absolute disaster……….how many more years on that albatross of a contract?
Too bad they can’t take Cervelli out of the game as well. He isn’t all that good. Can’t catch balls well, can’t hit, can’t throw out runners. Not exactly what you want in a catcher.
Sore back? Sore ego? Melted brain? Any seem likely with AJ.
YankeesWFAN Burnett didn’t look happy to be leaving. Will wait for word on what’s wrong. For now, Moseley in. All you guys named Moseley?
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Awww. Guess what! We aren’t happy to see him give up run after run after run. so i guess no one is happy.
Girardi is tired of AJ?
Too late to get Cliff Lee?
Oh well, if AJ is hurt it’s a good thing Mitre will be back soon. Mosely can fill in for Burnett and Mitre can replace him in the pen.
Bring up Jesus, we could use a little salvation.
Can’t handle AJ anymore. Just wish we could move him. Definately our 5th pitcher come post season. But can we survive the second half of our season with him going every 5th day? He really sucks!
if you ranked the worst managers in baseball history to have a world series ring, Joe Girardi would be high on the list…………..how you let a guy go out there knowing he might have an injury is an absolute joke………or, he’s made up some phantom injury for AJ because, in Joe Girardi world, no one is responsible for bad play…..
That was a really nice pie yesterday from Burnett though. Thank goodness he’s only paid $18M to do that! Otherwise one would think he’s underpaid.
Look on the bright side: Whoever replaces AJ can’t pitch any worse than him, can they?
Burnett is one reason why Cliff Lee will be targeted in the offseason. Is Burnett headed for the DL ? We shall see.
ac1
Actually, it is my money. My taxes paid for the new Yankee Stadium. The money I pay for the YES Network and tickets to games at Yankee Stadium pays Jeter’s salary. I don’t want the Yankees to give a guy 1-3 years more than he’s actually good enough for. Stop thinking sentimentally and start thinking realistically. Jeter is getting older, not better. This year could be the beginning of his decline or a portent of it starting next year. I know I don’t want to see him batting .253 with 4 HR and 26 RBI on 8/1/13 moreover I’m sure he’d retire if he produced those crap stats which they would be compared to his 1996-2010.
Btw what N.L. team is giving Jeter 3 or more years when he turns 37 next 6/26 and there’s no DH in the NL? The Mets have Jose Reyes at SS and would never break the bank for him. The Phillies have Jimmy Rollins at SS and Chase Utley at 2B.
How is he as big a star with the Tigers or either Chicago team as he is with the Yanks? YES would never show highlights of him or even mention him. The N.Y. Post and Daily News would of course have a “Jeter Watch” section where they’d post his BA, OBP, HR, and RBI but would drop it after awhile as the Yankees would tell them give it a rest and move on as they’ve done.
I’m NOT saying let go of Jeter, all I’m saying is the Yankees owe him absolutely nothing after they gave him not only a decade-long contract, but a record contract in years and money for a homegrown player. That means two years and $20 million a year. If he produces as well as he did through the first month of this season in 2011-12, he would and should get 2013-14. A dozen years and two contracts is pretty damn good for most players.
Moseley could use a ground ball here to restore some order.
A.J. Bustnett. This actually might not hurt the Yankees because Burnett is an average pitcher at best.
girardi is a joke? really? i think you are a joke. maybe burnett thought he was a cramp, maybe he told them he was ok?
Typical blight game on Fox
I wish that network didn’t cover a single baseball game of the Yankees.
# WMD July 17th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
The fact that Cashman needed to trade for Lee is a direct indictment on Burnett’s suckiness!
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That’s pushing it a bit, no? Going after Lee was going after a special opportunity. I could see it being said if Cashman were going after Oswalt or Lilly.
“At end of season:
DJ’s batting average will be below 250
Arod’s batting average will be below 230
Can’s batting average will be below 270
wanna bet?”
Sorry, Hoss, you lose.
true.. the yankees have a lot more bad games on fox saturday than good ones.
It’s a Fox game, plus an A.J. start. Don’t like to forecast losses, but this was almost a sure bet.
“# Mark- Can’t touch this. July 17th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
A.J needs a therapist.
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needs to give Ron Artest a call
i still think we can pawn burnett off on Atlanta.
Its days like this you miss an Alfredo Aceves who last season came into spots like these and would throw up 4 scoreless innings and keep the team in the game.
Actually with our bullpen this season I miss Aceves everytime I see a stiff come out of the bullpen to give up hits and runs.
Yeah, the Yankees are pretty terrible on FOX. But part of that is because they only face good teams on this channel. If they played the Orioles and Indians on FOX, I bet it would be much more tolerable!
I say the Yankees take 2/3. I just knew they couldn’t count on Burnett in this series.
Macfan, I just wish that Fox would get someone decent to call the games. It sucks having to watch every Fox game with the sound on mute. I can only stand about 5 minutes tops with the sound on for their games. Maybe the players are listening in on the games and that WOULD account for their poor play during Fox games.
Its hard for me to get upset at Burnett for this outing. Its obvious he had some sort of injury. Its completely irresponsible for Burnett to be sent back out (given his injury history) with the knowledge of some sort of discomfort/injury. Girardi really needs to pull his head out of his rear this season.
I don’t think that’s pushing. If Burnett has been lights out or pitching like he was in April the Yanks would have 2 aces and Pettitte & Hughes. No reason to trade Montero for Lee. Just pick him up after the season when Pettitte retires and/or Javy leaves.
“maybe burnett thought he was a cramp, maybe he told them he was ok?”
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Yeah he sure looked ok. 2 hit batters, all over the place. They obviously knew he wasn’t ok since Moseley was already warming up.
it still looks like something is wrong with jeter. he just looks physically uncomfortable. I dont think his skills are going away, but that he is hurting.
“rconn23 July 17th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
It’s a Fox game, plus an A.J. start. Don’t like to forecast losses, but this was almost a sure bet”
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ROFLMAO
I hear you on that one.
I just chalk today up to whatever happnes happens
Yanks have the best record and can win the series tomorrow
Fox Game and A.J. start, shiver me timbers.
ac1…….you know what’s a joke is getting someone up because you think your pitcher is injured, which is the only reason you would get someone up in that situation, then sending your possibly injured pitcher back out there just to give up another run and put your team down by more………….but, if you think that’s good, quality managing, then by all means, enjoy this Joe Girardi era…….
Come on, get Fartlette out.
Yeah he sure looked ok. 2 hit batters, all over the place. They obviously knew he wasn’t ok since Moseley was already warming up.
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Burnett leads the league in HBPs. So that isnt unusual. And All over the place? Did you watch a single game in June? He was all over the place all month, then he seemed to be ok.
So your logic makes no sense. Stop complaining.
Dustin has to find the strike zone soon.
The bullpen is going to get killed in this game. Hopefully Moseley and Logan can give them 3 innings each.
Josh reports that the Yanks are interested in Wes Helms as ” a bat”. I hope he doesn’t get broken the first time he sees a cutter.
Aceves was a huge loss. Not just because he was so good but because he ate up innings and shielded the rest of the pen from getting over exposed. Which is one thing Rivera can’t do given his strict role.
Nice job by Mosley…..Good call by Jeremy to get Mosley in the game…….
Burnett was still throwing 94 with movement in spite of whatever caused him to get taken out of the game. He had no 2nd pitch. He was ginger on picking up the baseball when that tapper was hit back to him, so maybe that’s where the problem began or flared up.
ac1…….you know what’s a joke is getting someone up because you think your pitcher is injured, which is the only reason you would get someone up in that situation, then sending your possibly injured pitcher back out there just to give up another run and put your team down by more………….but, if you think that’s good, quality managing, then by all means, enjoy this Joe Girardi era…….
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If you arent enjoying the Joe Girardi era, go watch the red sox or the mets. idiot. Yankees are world champions…. So if that is the Girardi Era, I’ll take it.
If you are unhappy with being world champions and in first place with the best record in baseball, go watch the another team.
Oh curse you Jack Z. If only Cliff Lee had cone to NY.
I’m willing to give the benefit of doubt to Jeter, but man, he has not played all that great most of this year. I don’t recall any play or HBP of note that started this downturn of his.
I think Burnett has a tummy ache. He used shaving cream instead of whipped cream on Swish’s pie yesterday and ate it by mistake.
“# dassit July 17th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Macfan, I just wish that Fox would get someone decent to call the games. It sucks having to watch every Fox game with the sound on mute.
I can only stand about 5 minutes tops with the sound on for their games.”
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That is 5 minutes too long for me, you are a brave man, sometimes I choose to actually follow the game online and not even tune into a Fox broadcast
The World Series last season was insufferable listening to that big headed Joe Suck and Timmy McTimmy
“The money I pay for the YES Network and tickets to games at Yankee Stadium pays Jeter’s salary.”
150 seat season ticket holder in Legends Seats and you aren’t at the game?
This piece of garbage also known as Burnett almost makes me yearn for Kenny Rogers or Hideki Irabu!
And maybe Burnett should tell someone that he is not 100 percent.
Burnett leads the league in HBPs. So that isnt unusual. And All over the place? Did you watch a single game in June? He was all over the place all month, then he seemed to be ok.
So your logic makes no sense. Stop complaining
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so, if his hitting batters and being all over the place wasn’t an indication that there was something wrong, just another example of how crappy he is, then why was the venerable Mosely warming up? OBVIOUSLY they thought something was wrong………..
a.j will be shopped this off season along with granderson and that waste joba
Hearing all the false compliments of Jack Z, I thought he was a well-dressed, well-groomed man who appeared as a professional. Instead, he is a fat, fat-faced, shaved-headed idiot that makes PA appear as a professional.
Five pitches seen between Tex and A-Rod. Not good.
same old AJ Bustnett
Hit batters, wild pitches, and walks
The 2010 Yankees batting order should be this until Jeter gets back on track:
Gardner
Swisher
Teixiera
Rodriguez
Cano
Posada
Jeter DH (the leadoff man for the bottom of the order)
Granderson
Eduardo Nunez called up with a dose of Pena SS
Too bad if it’s a demotion for Jeter (leadoff to seventh, SS to DH) and it makes him look bad in a walk year. He’s not hitting like a 1-6 hitter or playing good SS. He’s not even hitting like a 7 hitter but he is better than sucka ss Granderson. He wouldn’t publicly complain. His agent Casey Close wouldn’t like it, but too bad. You can’t/shouldn’t bat leadoff hitting around .270 and posting an OBP nowhere close to .400 or even .370.
Gardner and Swisher have higher BAs and OBPs than Jeter, look it up if you don’t believe me. Gardner is a faster baserunner and a better basestealer than Jeter while Swisher is a better HR and RBI man than Jeter. Last night should be the signal of the Yankees moving on into the next era which is Jeter leadoff or seventh depending on how well he bats, all he has now.
you guys do realize that they are just down by a bloop and a blast?
# WMD July 17th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
This piece of garbage also known as Burnett almost makes me yearn for Kenny Rogers or Hideki Irabu!
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Up until you get them. Then you would be really crying!
There is no way that Eduardo Nunez will be the starting SS next year. And he shouldn’t be. The guy is having a good year in AAA but is not ready to be an everyday SS on the Yanks. Your posts lower everybodies IQ here and make Yankees fans look like morons.
I don’t think AJ has an injury. He just sucks
If you arent enjoying the Joe Girardi era, go watch the red sox or the mets. idiot. Yankees are world champions…. So if that is the Girardi Era, I’ll take it.
If you are unhappy with being world champions and in first place with the best record in baseball, go watch the another team.
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The team last year and, to a certain extent this team this year, is virtually idiot proof, which Girardi tests every single day. You could have Don Zimmer asleep in the dugout as manager and they would win their games. This team wins INSPITE of Girardi, not because of him. Just because he is along for the ride with a group of great players, please don’t mistake that as an indication of his managerial skills………….he did everything he could to manage them out of both the Minnesota and Angels series last year…………and, again, I ask, what does he do well as a manager, besides make out a lineup card?
“Burnett leads the league in HBPs. So that isnt unusual. And All over the place? Did you watch a single game in June? He was all over the place all month, then he seemed to be ok.”
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Girardi knew he wasn’t 100% today. Moseley was warming up during the 3rd inning and after the hit by pitch Girardi flew out of the dug out and took him out immediately. He probably knew he was injured to start the game. Other people are allowed to have opinions besides you.
# pete July 17th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
a.j will be shopped this off season along with granderson and that waste joba
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Who would take him? No team is going to want AJ’s contract. Granderson and Joba maybe, but even then, neither are looking all that great, but at least they don’t cost too much. The return wouldn’t be all that either.
Please Kenny Rogers was a big time choke artist. Look up the word and you would find a picture of him. He choked in the postseason with the Yankees and Mets. Even though Burnett is bad he is way better than Rogers.
I’ve always been infatuated with AJ Burnett’s arm….Si when he became available I was all in for signing him……CB spoke that this could be the turnaround in his career and compared that chance with Curt Schilling……I was in complete agreement with CB’s comparison……..He’s tough to get a handle on
A 9 pitch third ? Unbelievable. This lineup can’t deal with soft tossing pitchers
Jeter will never be moved down the order – his ego is too fragile. Somehow he still thinks he deserves to bat near the top of the order. Don’t want to offend our captain, do we? Cashman would not have the balls to cut ties with him similar to Epstein did with Garciaparra. That ‘s what he should but won’t do.
Why would you trade AJ at the lowest point of his value along with Granderson and Joba. It’s called seling high and buying low
granderson will come on strong. his injury messed him up. he is one of the most dynamic players in the game. yes joba is frustrating but you don’t give up on a 24 year old arm like that yet. burnett makes a ton of money but he sitll provides the potential to have great starts. neither one of those 3 are traded.
Joba should be DFA’d. No team wants him and wasn’t he voted the most overrated player in baseball. And it’s true !
You could get a bag of balls for Joba Chamberlain.
For those of you who are blaming Girardi for ‘sending Burnett back out there with an injury,’ do you really think the Yanks, based on how much they baby their players, would do that? W’hen they have $80 million invested in him? It’s ridiculous. There is no way Girardi or the training staff would send an injured pitcher out there to pitch. If Burnett was hurt then he hid it from Girardi. The reason Mosely was throwing earlier could very well have been just that Girardi had seen enough of Burnett to know that he sucks and that once Burnett loses it he doesn’t get it back. Burnett is a head case. That much should be apparent to anyone by now. Stop blaming everyone else (Posada, Girardi, Eiland, the hot dog vendors) for the fact that he sucks!
Cmon Cookiepuss you know its sacrilegious to mention dropping the Captain in the lineup
Even though it is obvious to those watching he looks rough at the plate.
He has an unheard of .334 OBP, that is not Derek Jeter like.
I don’t know what’s up, maybe natural decline is the only answer, he has been sub-par for far too long
bob July 17th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
A 9 pitch third ? Unbelievable. This lineup can’t deal with soft tossing pitchers
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Niemann is like 6’9” and the ball looks like he is throwing from the sky. you probably never played baseball in your life but those guys who throw downhill like that are very tough to hit
plus i wouldnt’ call niemann a soft thrower by any means.
I hope Tex didn’t lose his timing/mechanics during the all star break. He said 4 off days is too many for him and every year he has to work from scratch afterwards. The break was the worst thing to happen to him.
Joba Chamberlain is like Burnett. A whole lot of talent with a 10 cent head. They both don’t know how to use it.
I think AJ will turn around.
I’d be in favor of moving Jeter down from the leadoff spot. Absolutely. But people calling for Eduardo Nunez to be the starting SS next year??? Give me a break. These same people better not be praising him when he gets hot then.
Does AJ have a no trade clause? Because if he does not Id eat 25% of his salary and try to get something for him in the off-season.
Their offense sucks.
Actually I should have said that you couldn’t get a bag of balls for Joba Chamberlain.
“# Jeremy July 17th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Joba Chamberlain is like Burnett. A whole lot of talent with a 10 cent head. They both don’t know how to use it.”
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Joba is nothing more than an overhyped fat toad.
I was so happy last night when that game ended on Swisher’s hit just so I didn’t have to see him come in the game, after he was warming up for the 10th inning.
It looks like this game is going to get out of hand very soon. Moseley’s command isn’t good.
Fox defends Torre? LOL
Hey “pat”
So what I’m not at the game? Sorry I can’t afford a 150 seat season tickets for Legends Seats plan like you. Or are you saying I hold that plan when I never said I did? Or are you ludicrously saying I have to buy that plan or a season ticket plan to say I pay for Jeter’s salary? You know I mean when I say I pay for his salary. It means I contribute towards it and me times millions who also pay him so we all pay for him.
I’m watching the game at home in my air-conditioned apartment with my friends as you know, it is 90+ friggin’ degrees out and I just don’t feel like going to the game cuz of the humidity.
Btw what are YOU doing on here if you’re a season ticket holder?
How ’bout some of you acknowledge the truth I speak about Jeter instead of going on and on about Burnett who never was an ace, a #2, or even a #3 overall. He got his contract with the Yankees primarily on his career year 2008 with Toronto. It was a mistake to give him five years when he should’ve been given three years tops, but you know what? He won Game 2 of the 2009 World Series so he has credit with me.
What are these two clowns talking about? Did McCarver just compare the Yankees/Torre situation to Nazi propaganda?!
For the love of goodness Moseley get an out.
Why doesnt Tim McCarver just come out and say, “I hate the Yankees.”
He’s all ready made comments about their budget and the way they handled Torre. Why not just come out and say it.
I love AJ, but he’s a big reason why I don’t absolutely love this rotation. CC and Andy, IMO, are the only ones that we can reliably depend on, especially in the playoffs. I hope AJ isn’t hurt…….if he is, that’s a problem. If he’s not, then it’s still a problem because he’s brutalizing the pen.
When will Stump Merrill get his recognition he deserves?! It’s like the yankees airbrushed his 120-155 managerial record….
This is going to be a long game today. Oh well, tomorrow is another day.
Crawford isn’t looking all that great.
You guys still want to sign to a $3 Trillion contract?
My friends here is AJ Bustnett
Cookiepuss,
AJ was NEVER a #2 or #3??????
That is a bold statement.
Oh, this mccarver is getting me steamed. He may have a point, but he’s whining too much already. He just loves airing our dirty laundry. And Cashman doesn’t owe Torre the time of day as far as I’m concerned.
Where’s Buck? St. Louis? His voice is grating, but at least it doesn’t put you to sleep.
Out of the baseline.
Two words for Timmy
Deion Sanders
Loved when Sanders dumped the bucket of water on him
He was left standing in the locker room like an idiot he is.
Let McCarver say what he wants. Better to express an opinion than a bland broadcast. And I happen to agree about the Torre thing. It’s the Yankees being ‘small’.
Anyone who thinks that the Yankees should dumped Jeter is an idiot. He should collect his 3,000th hit as a Yankee and depending on his productivity take it from there. It has only been for a couple of months that he has struggled. He had an MVP caliber year last year. I agree he looks horrible right now and if he’s hurt I wish he would swallow his pride and take some days off to get healthy but to suggest that they dump him at the end of the year is blasphemy.
How is he not out of the base line?? He was on the grass. Another bs call by the ump.
Yankee have air-brushed Joe Torre out of Yankee history ???? Is he really incorrect with that comment ????
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Burnett is an enigma. Seems to have lost confidence when his curveball is not working, and if he doesn’t have it teams know they’re getting the fastball, which has lost some velocity since when he played with toronto.
Also doesn’t seem to pitch very well from the stretch.
The Yankees might have the best record, but even though they had a successful road trip they won with their starting pitching.
Need to get their bullpen in order. Not convinced that Robertson can be that EIG, even though he struck out the side last night-against the bottom of the order.
It would be great if there was an option similar to SAP but where it would just turn off the announcers and have the sound of the game. Listening to this is like torture. I wish they would just shut the hell up and let me enjoy the game in peace.
Tyler you need to take a reading comprehension class cuz nowhere did I say Nunez should, could, or would be the starting SS for the 2011 Yankees, or do you know 2010 means this year? I proposed a batting order 2010 until Jeter gets back on track.
Nunez could easily be called up considering Juan Miranda of all players was called up to replace Kevin Russo. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nunez replaced Miranda as early as next week. Miranda is a total waste of roster space considering Swisher can spot start at 1B when Teixiera takes a break from 1B and the Yanks have plenty of guys to start at DH. Nunez brings more to the table than either Miranda or Pena. It’s called better defense at SS than Jeter and Jeter DHing instead of Posada DHing and Cervelli catching everyday.
Time heals all wounds…. Torre and the Yankees will get back together eventually…like Ozzie and Black Sabbath
Moseley has been “nail-biting”effective, but suspect if they try him for a 3rd inning, the Rays will get to him.
That inning took forever, but we escape unscathed.
Puss
You said you paid Jeter’s salary. I’m telling you how many season tickets that would take so you could see how foolish that sounds.
Moseley’s good stuff.
Just needs to not walk people but he looks like he can stick.
I doubt it……..and if they do, they do. Torre revealing personal health information about George in his book was not bound to endear him to the Steinbrenner sons. If they have a day, great – if not, I won’t care. I don’t blame the Yankees for being ticked off. And why is Timmy going on about it anyway? Can’t he just let sleeping dogs lie?
People back in ’96 also thought the Yanks were nuts to hand over the shortstop job over to Jeter. Nunez should be brought up to see what he’s got. But giving another $150M to a declining 36 yr old shortstop is apparently not as crazy
“# Pat M. July 17th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Yankee have air-brushed Joe Torre out of Yankee history ???? Is he really incorrect with that comment ????”
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The Yankees have moved on and won a World Series
what was Joe Torre before he came to the Yankees in the management arena.
He got his due credit and rewarded well for his championship guidance. When the team became stuck in neutral in the preceding years the Yankees were ready to move on.
Have the Yankees missed a beat without Torre, not for 1 second.
Joe Torre got every accolade in New York City during those seasons. No one shortchanged him.
Who cares about Torre ! And McCaver is just mad because the Yankees burned him. He needs to worry about finding a nursing home because he won’t be around much longer.
Moseley threw 32 pitches but got them out, I’ll take that over AJ no runs scored. This is the first inning Rays haven’t scored.
cookiepuss-
i never said you mentioned nunez. that was another poster. its called the scroll up/scroll down buttons.
your posts are still pathetic though anyway even if you didnt say nunez should start.
Yankee Trader….You better start working the phones and get a few pieces for the remainder of 2010…..Pen, maybe a lefthanded stick, and even a upgrade utility player who can hit……..Very fine description on Mosley’s outing today….
Every Yankee batter except for Gardner is free swinging and don’t try drive up the pitch count.
i know people thought it was crazy giving the ss job to jeter but i’m guessing most of us (myself included) have hardly seen nunez play. i know he has good numbers but how will he handle big league pressure? everything you read about jeter was that he had that confidence from day 1 and fit right in. can nunez do that? there are alot of intangibles in being the starting ss of the yankees. can nunez fill that role? i don’t think so personally but who knows. probably 95 percent of the people calling for nunez to start hadn’t even heard of him when he was hitting like 250 in tampa 2 years ago….
mlb.com reporting Yanks have interest in Wes Helms.
“# Jeremy July 17th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Who cares about Torre ! And McCaver is just mad because the Yankees burned him. He needs to worry about finding a nursing home because he won’t be around much longer.”
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exactly Torre is now with the Dodgers dealing with the McCourt divorce battle that is leaving no money to spend on players by the Dodgers.
Don’t think Torre didn’t know how good he had it in New York City with the Yankees.
You at least had a management here that does whatever it needs to succeed.
Ask Torre how he likes dealing with Frank McCourt now and his issues with his divorce affecting the teams bottom line.
# Stacey July 17th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Anyone who thinks that the Yankees should dumped Jeter is an idiot. He should collect his 3,000th hit as a Yankee and depending on his productivity take it from there. It has only been for a couple of months that he has struggled. He had an MVP caliber year last year. I agree he looks horrible right now and if he’s hurt I wish he would swallow his pride and take some days off to get healthy but to suggest that they dump him at the end of the year is blasphemy.
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First off, moron, I never wrote the Yanks should dump Jeter, I wrote they should not give him more than two years for the reasons I explained and will not explain again to you or anyone else.
If he finishes with .253 BA, ,.329 OBP, 11 HR, and 63 RBI and wants more than two years, thanks for the memories i.e. yeah, the Yankees should dump him cuz no one has or should get 3 or more years and $20M or more a year on that at age 36+ with not enough HR and RBI capability for DH everyday or clearcut next position to play.
Blasphemy to dump him? Oh please. The Yanks could let go of Jeter, sign Carl Crawford for LF, move Gardner to CF where he belongs, have a Gardner/Crawford or Crawford/Swisher 1-2, trade Granderson, sign a DH or move Posada there and sign a Rod Barajas type veteran (if not Rod himself) to share C with Cervelli, get a Gold Glove contending SS or veteran like Edgar Renteria (winner with the 1997 Florida Marlins) to bat ninth, sign Cliff Lee, and the 2011 Yankees would be another World Series contender while Jeter would be Captain Who? with whoever he signed with.
Nice Cisco. a 2 out rally would be sweet here.
Nunez is no Jeter, lol……The guy is struggling, so freaking what? Has anyone ever seen a ballplayer struggle? No way – no player has ever struggled before. Sheesh – just because the guy is having a rough time does not mean he’s DOA and should put out of his misery. Comparing Nunez to Jeter is ridiculous – and he’s not replacing the captain next year.
Jeter was one of the 5 best prospects in baseball when he got the job in ’96.
There is no comparison between him and Nunez.
betsy-
i agree but it’s not worth arguing with some of these posters. i’m slowly figuring that out lol
pitching around Gardner to get to DJ…..
Who wants to see Jeter playing for a different team?
He’s slap happy Jeter for his out.
LOL, gardner has such a good eye. Better than the ump.
Sadness. No run.
Is Jeter ever gonna hit?
Jeter is lunging
Nobody but cookiepuss….nice name by the way
The pitcher knew not to give Gardner anything to hit with Jeter the automatic out on deck. Is anyone surprised that he didn’t get the ball out of the infield? He is totally lost.
# Tyler July 17th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
cookiepuss-
i never said you mentioned nunez. that was another poster. its called the scroll up/scroll down buttons.
your posts are still pathetic though anyway even if you didnt say nunez should start.
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Nah your posts are pathetic because you can’t bring a counterargument to what I’ve written about Jeter, just insult me with “your posts are pathetic” like a little girl texting for the first time on her first cellphone. If they’re so pathetic, you are even more pathetic replying to me.
I mentioned Nunez should be called up and start at SS for 2010, you said Nunez should not be the everyday SS for the 2011 Yankees, it’s fair for me to say you could’ve been directing them at me since the majority of posts are castigating Burnett as if he’s supposed to be The Second Coming Of Mike Mussina which he never was or will be.
Maybe you should direct a post at a poster instead of taking a blind shot at whoever. It’s called typing their username.
at least jeter hit it hard
Is it really only the Top of the 5th?
Jeter: 8 for his last 51.
Pat M-Yankee front office doesn’t listen to me anymore. lol.
No to Wes Helms, but if I could I’d be interested in other Marlins such as Leo Nunez as EIG, and Cody Ross to play all OF positions, and would be willing to take on Jorge Cantu’s remainder of 6M contract to get a deal done.
Like Jeff Keppinger of the Astros, Josh Willingham of the Nats..
Joel Hanrahan and Ryan Doumit of the Pirates might be obtainable.
Macfan
I agree !
Torre was good but way overhyped just like Terry Francona. Both had horrible records prior tobecoming managers of large market teams with stacked lineups and a large payroll advantage.
I’m not saying that they were bad but they are overhyped managers.
Jeter is killing rallies.
Jeter learn how to take a pitch, your first pitch swinging is obviously not working.
Let’s go Yankees!!!
Jeter is Done.
D.O.N.E.
Done.
Jeter probably didn’t want to strike out again so first pitch outs are the way to go
Moseley gets squeezed….
“# Lou-in-Vermont July 17th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
pitching around Gardner to get to DJ…..
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One inning too many for Moseley. Putting guys on base was going to catch up to him eventually.
Joe-It’s time to replace Moseley instead of talking to the idiots from Fox!
Yankee Trader
Rumor is coming from Yankee scouts being seen at Marlins games and Girardi does have some 1st hand knowledge of their personnel so who knows what they may come up with.
Whatever the situation is this much is pretty clear
Right now Derek is having the worst season of any in his career and he is now 36, not 26, not 30.
So it raises the legitimate question about if he is in a natural decline.
If I told you before this season that to this date Jeter would have a
.268 AVG, worst of his career
.333 OBP, worst of his career
.383 SLG worst of his career
.717 OPS, worst of his career
Who would have not looked at me and laughed in my face at such a suggestion. However we are seeing it with our very own eyes and it isn’t fun.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) July 17th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Nunez is no Jeter, lol……The guy is struggling, so freaking what? Has anyone ever seen a ballplayer struggle? No way – no player has ever struggled before. Sheesh – just because the guy is having a rough time does not mean he’s DOA and should put out of his misery. Comparing Nunez to Jeter is ridiculous – and he’s not replacing the captain next year.
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Um, what part of me saying Nunez should be called up to start at SS and bat ninth, Jeter dropped to seventh and moved to DH do you and alot of others not understand? I have never said and will never say Nunez should, could, or would be the 2011 Yankees starting SS.
Nunez is no Jeter, true, but 2010 Jeter is no Jeter either, not the one I saw through the first month of this season. All I’m saying is he should not expect or get 3 or more years if he finishes even with the BA and OBP he has through this game at year’s end, he should expect and get two years tops. It is not unreasonable to think this year could be the beginning of the end or a portent of the end of Jeter as the through April 2010 force he’s been, I hope it’s not.
And now the Rays will add to their lead…
Guess this game is one of 60-70 losses over the course of a season.
It’s okay to loose, but the game shows problems ahead for the Yankees…
1. AJ Burnett – headcase
2. Jeter – uhh-oh
3. A-Rod – uhh-oh
4. Granderson – uhh-oh
5. Bullpen – uhh-oh
The Yankees best lineup is Gardner and Swisher batting 1st and 2nd. Jeter is 36 years old, I think it’s obvious his “slump” is more than a slump at this point.
another seeying eye single for tb
FKAD July 17th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Why doesnt Tim McCarver just come out and say, “I hate the Yankees.”
He’s all ready made comments about their budget and the way they handled Torre. Why not just come out and say it.
Mute button. I haven’t listened to Fat Timmy’s drool in years.
cookiepuss-
have you ever even seen nunez play lol. thank god you’re not brian cashman and instead work at a walmart.
ball game, leave him in , let him finish it
Yankee Trader…..Jorge Cantu would be a sweet pickup……Why is Mosley still in the game ?????
Well that’s the game.
Tomorrow is a new day. Now I remember why I never look at games on Fox
Well, this game isn’t going well. Offensive struggles hardly matter when the deficits get this large with quality pitchers on the mound.
It was game over once Burnett took the mound.
Kind of felt that home run coming.
“# teddy3321 July 17th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
ball game, leave him in , let him finish it”
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Yep take one for the team I say and put him on the next shuttle to SWB after the game.
Whatever the final score is let him pitch at least 7.
This is another game where not having Aceves really hurts the Yanks. Girardi decided to give the game away because he didn’t want to have to kill his whole bullpen today. Cashman will have to fix this bullpen somehow it’s very short and bad.
What a bitsch Reid Brignac is…he could not get a ball to the outfield to drive in a runner from 3rd in four opportunities against the red sox this season.
mosley is bad
Nunez is no Jeter, true, but 2010 Jeter is no Jeter either, not the one I saw through the first month of this season.
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Jeter in the 1st month of the season was incredibly lucky. He had a 70% ground ball rate but managed to rack up 10% infield hits and have abunch of grounders find holes. I mentioned these warning signs in the first 2 weeks of the season and so far Jeter is pretty much showing exactly what I said.
sean rodriguez has contributed. what has reid bitsch brignac contributed aside from in this game…
Moseley the sacrificial lamb today, thanks to AJ’s “lacerations” of ? fingers, hand, wrist?
Until tomorrow. Have a good evening all.
Can’t win them all I guess, good thing we have Pettitte going tomorrow to try and take the series.
jeter is either in a slump or farther time is catching up to him fast…
his #’s are OK becuase most SS stink but they are by far the worse of his career.
we will see if captn. wonderful tries to extort the Yanks or takes a reasonable approach on a new contract.. He is not close to a $20 mill per year player andyone who thinks he is has delusions.
3 years which is 1 yr to many for $10 mill. that is more then generous. the guy is 36..
Yep take one for the team I say and put him on the next shuttle to SWB after the game.
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I don’t think Mosley can be optioned. His contract already stated that he could opt out if not on the team by X date, and he has played 5 years in the majors so he likely has 0 options left.
Hopefully the Yankees Slap that silly grin off David Price’s face.
O/T but I watched Hot Tub Time Machine last night. It was pretty good.
Who cares.
we still have the best record in baseball.
we can afford to give away games.
heck, we can afford to give away tomorrow’s game too. and we will still be in first place..
we have the best record in baseball.
Did I mention we have the best record in baseball and can afford to give away games?
yea but mosley useless, mitre and gaudan are on the team anyway
good night, that’s it for today.
No one should ever GIVE AWAY games, but its perfectly acceptable to lose games while trying to win them.
# Tyler July 17th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
cookiepuss-
have you ever even seen nunez play lol. thank god you’re not brian cashman and instead work at a walmart.
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Have you? I doubt you saw Jeter, Pettitte, and Rivera play in AAA 1994, Cano in AAA 2004, you jackass.
I don’t work at Walmart, but you could use a trip there for some smart pills.
Everyone who says the players stink (Jeter, AJ) are all couch jockeys who wish they were athletic enough to do what these guys do day in and day out. You’re all a bunch of jokes.
If it was just a loss, no big deal – but at this point, the Yankees have a huge problem on their hands with AJ. He really is the #5 starter – he’s not even as good as Phil at this point.
The Yankees never hit Price – tomorrow’s going to be rough. Hopefully Andy can at least save the pen.
I think the Yanks are lucky that Jeter’s is having such a down season as far as his contract goes. If he had amazing #’s Hal would probably be stupid and give him 3-4 years. Then if next season he had the year he is having this season Hal would know he had a mistake. If Jeter doesn’t pick it up big time in the 2nd half I would be shocked if the Yanks give him anything more than 1 year with an option or 2 at most. He is basically a singles hitter if he can get the ball out of the right side of the infield.
thanks jerkface. you saved me from typing a long spiel on what an idiot peter is…
Too little, too late, Teixeira you jerk.
Don’t look now but ARod isn’t hitting either.
The Yankees are interested in Wes Helms? I don’t know why after looking at his stats. I’m not sure he is an improvement over Pena if defense and versatility is considered.
I won’t comment on the offense except to say that it would be nice if they could enjoy some blowout games – they are few and far between for this team.
Can’t win them all I guess, good thing we have Pettitte going tomorrow to try and take the series.
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Exactly. We have the best record in baseball. It is not like the Rays will play well tomorrow.
What’s there to worry about.
Arod looks really lost yesterday and today. It’s impossible to get this lineup hot all at the same time.
Thats why I was thrilled we own yesterday’s game… Box of chocolates Burnett is always an adventure and Price has owned us in the past, Andy is going to have to be excellent and go 8 innings to win. If he doesn’t go 8, the pen will probably blow a lead even if we have it.
Watching this game is like watching a car wreck in slow motion.
# Michelle July 17th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I think the Yanks are lucky that Jeter’s is having such a down season as far as his contract goes. If he had amazing #’s Hal would probably be stupid and give him 3-4 years. Then if next season he had the year he is having this season Hal would know he had a mistake. If Jeter doesn’t pick it up big time in the 2nd half I would be shocked if the Yanks give him anything more than 1 year with an option or 2 at most. He is basically a singles hitter if he can get the ball out of the right side of the infield.
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Michelle (Damon?) you are wicked right on. Yanks should pull a Nomar with Jeter and trade him to the Cubs at the deadline. He’s in ultra decline mode, Cash has to be the cold hearted killer here and know that while Jeter’s been the heart and soul of the team since 96, it’s time to take Old Yeller out, tie him to a tree and shoot him.
The only blowout games are games where the other team blows us out LOL
Even the blowouts we do get are close games until the 7th-8th inning anyway. That Toronto game where we scored 11 in the 3rd was a rarity.
I would think that the contracts that Mo & Po got at their advanced years would be uppermost in Jeter’s mind. In his mind, why shouldn’t he get max money. He will reason that he too will have another 2 or 3 big years left in the tank.
Of course Mo has more than earned his dollars and Po to a lesser extent what with injuries and all.
Still there is a lot more ground to cover at SS.
If he doesn’t rebound statiscially, I wouldn’t want to be in Cash’s shoes explaining their offer of 2 years @ 10M. Nor would I want to be explaining to Hal why I signed him for a gazillion dollar contract and his skills delcined even further. Either way this could be a career move for Brian whatever decision he makes.
even though it’s probably in a losing effort it’s good to see Tex still being hot.
And no I didn’t see any of those guys play in the minors considering I was 4 in 1994. But I’m not the one claiming to think they will be smash hits in the majors. I saw Nunez play 1 time in spring training when I went in 09. I don’t talk about them like I’m an expert though unlike the cookie puss. I figured I’d make it 2 words
hard to score when jeter,curtis,arod,cano,posada aren’t hitting
I wonder what these “lacerations” are that AJ had. Is this another Kevin Brown moment? Who knows with this nut.
That’s the problem – Cashman and Hal can’t try and low-ball Jeter, even if he has a bad year.
If this were MO or Jorge or even Andy, they could use a bad eyar against them. Look a Andy in 2008 – he had a bad year and we were able to get him to take an incentive based deal.
Jeter’s contract is going to be a legacy contract. He’s not going to get better next year at age 37, he is only going to get worse. This year might just be the start of it. And judging by how bad he is this year, age 37 Jeter is going to be brutal to watch.
Did he really just say that the pan from the pie caused Burnett’s injury?
Is McCarver Drunk?
Mc Carver blaming apie plate for AJ’s lacerations? CLUELESS.
Pie injuries?
A new low for Mc Carver.
lol @ Mc Carver.. It’s a towel with whipped cream.. duh.
Why are people so concerned about the money that Jeter gets?
I don’t care if he plays for free, if this is the Jeter we get, he is hurting the team more than helping it. It’s only downhill from here too as far as production as he gets older.
Basketcase Burnett better not be anywhere near the starting rotation come October
In all fairness , which is a foreign concept here, Mosley hasn’t pitched in awhile
It’s time to take all of the starters out of this game. Come back tomorrow. Have fun out there Gaudin for the next 4 innings.
# stuart July 17th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
jeter is either in a slump or farther time is catching up to him fast…
his #’s are OK becuase most SS stink but they are by far the worse of his career.
we will see if captn. wonderful tries to extort the Yanks or takes a reasonable approach on a new contract.. He is not close to a $20 mill per year player andyone who thinks he is has delusions.
3 years which is 1 yr to many for $10 mill. that is more then generous. the guy is 36..
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You have delusions if you think Jeter is taking $30M for the next three years when he’s making at least $20M this year alone.
Two years at $20M/yr. for $40M is more than generous and fair considering that’s a dozen years of security between two contracts at star pay. How many other players besides him, A-Rod, Sabathia, etc. are pulling in $20M/yr? Not many. Yeah, it’s overpaying him for his age, limited range at SS, and possible mediocrity considering both, but the way I see it, if he rebounds with a .310 BA, .380 OBP 2011, he’s still being paid top dollar and is a step closer to getting another two years.
‘Say he re-signs for two years and $40M then produces this in at least 145 total starts a season (SS + DH + LF if he makes some starts there):
2011: .310 BA, .380 OBP
2012: .304 BA, .391 OBP
I DEFINITELY give him two more years and if he stinks in 2013, well, he gave us only two bad seasons (2010 and 2013, or 2013 if he rights his ship the rest of 2010) and he has 2014 to end his career on a high note or continue it with a bounceback year.
Now Gaudin gets to throw his hat in the ring
This pen sucks sooo much.
“Pie injuries?”
Next McCarver theory is going to be Aj got paper cuts from counting the money the Yankees pay him.
If you only follow the Yanks on Fox, you would think they are the worst team in the history of the sport.
Give Jeter a lot of money for 2 years. Or 1 and a vesting option.
Give him $30 million for a year. Just don’t give him anything more than 2 years.
Hmmm…I mean to be fair, the long relief of most teams is pretty dreadful, else they wouldn’t be long relief. But Mosely and Gaudin are really stinking up the joint.
I’d really like to see Nova and the new Albie up here. And Mitre again. Could become key pieces.
Yikes, the Rays seem to have men on base constantly. I hope we can keep them off the bases tomorrow.
Why isn’t Joe Buck here?
FOX didn’t think that the game honoring Jorge/ Sheppard was big enough for Buck to call it?
Instead, they gave us the 2nd tier PbP man while Buck is calling the Cards/Dodgers game.
It’s likely this will be last appearances by Mosely and Gaudin. Mitre will be back next week and another move is forthcoming.
Today would be a good day to give Chamberlain junk innings.
2011: .310 BA, .380 OBP
2012: .304 BA, .391 OBP
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YESKimJones Brian Cashman told me via text about AJ: “Told (he) tripped up stairs and scraped hands when bracing fall.”
“Cash has to be the cold hearted killer here and know that while Jeter’s been the heart and soul of the team since 96, it’s time to take Old Yeller out, tie him to a tree and shoot him.”
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We saw Cash do it with Bernie and I don’t think he will have a hard time treating Jeter the same way. I don’t care how much money per year the Yanks give Jeter we all know he will be overpaid but the Yanks have to careful with the years. They had no problem giving Posada 4 years because they knew he would DH the last 2 years. Jeter is a singles hitter there is no way he will hit enough to be the DH. I hope Cash and Hal do the right thing with Jeter otherwise he will hurt the team.
I think we can’t really know if Jeter’s just slumping or aging quickly until the season is over. Because if he rebounds with a red hot August and September, then the entire situation changes. Players are allowed to have bad stretches. Jeter’s in decline, that much is sure. But how much?
Also, yes, Jeter does not draw nearly enough walks to have a .080 IsOBP
Too bad men weren’t on base for those last 2 Yankee homers.
Too bad this offense is being wasted.
Middle Relief
Jetes will get something like 2 / 42 with an option….He’s Derek Jeter after all
“2011: .310 BA, .380 OBP
2012: .304 BA, .391 OBP”
I assume you meant .310 and .304 as the OBPs…. no idea what those second set of numbers are, but your OBPs are probably close to spot on. If Jeter’s OBP is so low this year, it is only going to lower in the next 2yrs.
2 years for Jeter is fine.
It’s going to be tough to watch him, but it has to be done for PR reasons
But he cannot get more than 2 yrs.
I wish Price was starting this game… because it was a blowout and he would shut us down so we have no chance anyway. Then we get the advantage tomorrow with Andy against Niemenn.
Now, we waste a decent offensive effort because our pitcher sucked and we are facing the best pitcher in the AL tomorrow, a guy we have never hit in the past.
Andy is going to have to be near perfect.
# Tyler July 17th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
even though it’s probably in a losing effort it’s good to see Tex still being hot.
And no I didn’t see any of those guys play in the minors considering I was 4 in 1994. But I’m not the one claiming to think they will be smash hits in the majors. I saw Nunez play 1 time in spring training when I went in 09. I don’t talk about them like I’m an expert though unlike the cookie puss. I figured I’d make it 2 words
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And I live where Scraton-Wilkes Barre Yankee games aren’t televised or on the radio. I also don’t have the luxury, monetarily or geographically, to take in a spring training game n Tampa or wherever in Florida.
I don’t have to see Nunez. I go by what experts and scouts say, and both say he could be called up this year. Even Chad Jennings who runs this blog mentioned him earlier this week as a potential callup.
I never claimed to be an expert or that Nunez would be a “smash hit” in the majors, dumbo.
YOU, however, are one because you saw Nunez play “one time” in ’09, and let’s encapsulate what 2010 Nunez can do or decide if he should be called up on the word of a 19/20 year old seeing him once two spring trainings ago.
After listening to Tim McCarver devalue everything about George Steinbrenner for the last 10 minutes, I realized that if Bob Sheppard was the “Voice of God”, then McCarver is the “Voice of Clod”.
Hmm…if you have heartburn watching Jeter in decline but at the end of his contract, I can only imagne the angst that will come with Arod going all Mike Lowell or worse Albert Belle with his repaired hip. One year A. Belle was a feared hitter and the next he was out of baseball all together. And M. Lowell has been sent home by the Sux as they don’t have any place to play him. I heard he was thinking about retirement after this year but I bet he wasn’t thinking about mid-season.
Jacob Ruppert,
sounds like McCarver is still bitter about being dismissed from being a yankee broadcaster during the late 90s.
George didn’t exactly treat McCarver well, so I don’t blame Timmy.
Why pretend to like someone that you don’t?
mashmore98 The Yankees have asked for Brandon Laird to start taking fly balls in the outfield before games. Interesting.
Poor game for the Yanks. It happens. Seemingly often when AJ pitches.
That said, the bullpen is the real weakness.
No long man.
No consistent eighth inning guy.
No situational lefty.
No second lefty.
If any starter can’t go more than 5 innings, the team is in trouble, and because of that, a move has to be made. Soon.
Bullpen takes priority over another bench bat, IMO.
# DaSaint007 July 17th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Poor game for the Yanks. It happens. Seemingly often when AJ pitches.
That said, the bullpen is the real weakness.
No long man.
No consistent eighth inning guy.
No situational lefty.
No second lefty.
If any starter can’t go more than 5 innings, the team is in trouble, and because of that, a move has to be made. Soon.
Bullpen takes priority over another bench bat, IMO.
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Yanks should sign Kate Hudson to a multi-year deal to keep Jeter and A-Rod hungry.
Give Jeter one year, then the option for a second, anymore is stupid.
It’s days like this when I wish the Boss was still in control so he could personally scream at Girardi for leaving Mosley in. It’s like Girardi gave up.
DJ starts major rally comeback now.
# Jerkface July 17th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
2011: .310 BA, .380 OBP
2012: .304 BA, .391 OBP
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Not really considering his career OBP through April 2010 is .386.
Those OBPs are around his career average.
Uh, was that Cotton-Eye Joe singing “Let me call you sweetheart” with Bob Sheppard with the scary Don Zimmer lurking in the background?
Nice lead off single by Jeter, now maybe everyone can leave him alone. He’s not going anywhere for awhile!
When Jeter starts hitting the coach knows it’s time to take out the pitcher!
“Not really considering his career OBP through April 2010 is .386.
Those OBPs are around his career average.”
And his career batting average is .315. You don’t think he’s going to hit .315. So his OBP will be lower. Also, I’m not sure if his walk rate has actually dropped this season, but it feels like it.
Trevor July 17th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
It’s days like this when I wish the Boss was still in control so he could personally scream at Girardi for leaving Mosley in. It’s like Girardi gave up.
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Trevor, who would you have wanted him to bring in from our pen? Who did you have confidence in who would stop the bleeding?
Posada got a 4 year contract. Jeter will get a 4 year contract. Don’t be silly people.
•In a video on ESPN, Olney says the Yankees have determined that they would not trade catching prospect Jesus Montero for any player available on the trade market. They were willing to move him for Cliff Lee because it was a special case.
•The Yankees are talking to the Marlins and the two teams could match up in a few different ways. Cody Ross, a right-handed hitting outfielder, would be a perfect fit for the Pinstripes. Trouble is, Ross is a regular for Florida and the Yanks may not want to pay that price for a player they’d only use part-time. Leo Nunez would also make sense for the Yankees in a set-up role but they’ll want a lot for him as well. The closer is under team control for two seasons after this one.
Jayson Werth, Rosenthal says, could be moved in order to improve the team in the short-term and long-term. A Werth-for-Javier Vazquez swap could make sense if the Yankees could acquire another starting pitcher. Cliff Lee, in theory, would have been that guy.
my dad thinks swishers swing is like mantles.. i dunno im not that old
But additional offense will be added to this team in the offseason.
Crawford and Werth will be considered.
And the bullpen will be reworked, from within or without.
Trevor,
There is not a single person in the pen who can stop the bleeding. Park, Logan, Gaudin, Mosely all suck.
And bringing up Joba/Robertson into a game you are trailing in the 3rd inning isin’t a very good strategy either.
Pepitone # 25…..What are you doing here, aren’t you suppose to be in the Bronx ???? Or did Mantle & Ford pull a fast one on you again ????
See Joe that’s how you coach. When a team starts hitting your pitcher get him out, simple.
yea kate a 270 avg with zero power, let’s sign jeter for 5 yrs at $22 mill per. after all we do not want to insult him with a meagher 2 yrs and $26 mill. who would play for that type of money????
“See Joe that’s how you coach. When a team starts hitting your pitcher get him out, simple.”
In the 2nd inning? Box of chocolates Burnett usually implodes early and kills the pen.
So when does the mandatory rally tease start? Do they start to chip away early on, or load the bases with 1 out in the 9th and come up short after someone hits into a DP?
The AJ Burnett contract is going to look worse than Jeter’s upcoming contract…. by far.
can cano get the yanks back in it
Benoit is turtle like out there…speed it up alittle bit….
My hubby doesn’t necessarily believe the AJ injury story. When did this happen? Before the game or during the game?
Neither Montero nor Romine will be traded. Neither will Nunez.
Albaladejo may be brought up or packaged in a trade. McAllister could be traded. Miranda, Pena, Russo, Laird, Pilittere or Curtis could be traded.
Point is, they have the pieces.
Shoot, for the right piece, Chamberlain could be traded. But it probably won’t happen. They truly believe he can be consistently dominant.
With Jeter, it all depends if the NYY win the WS if Cashman gives DJ a fat contract. His tail off in production has obviously hurt the team.
Now, PR issues aside, Jeter should get a Johnny Damon contract: 2 years 14 million. There is no way DJ’s production matches Damon’s from last year. The analogy to Bernie was spot on.
Fan in the orange shirt boxing out Jaso. Give that man a free ticket.
Maybe our investigative reporter K Jones can find out about the AJ. Talk about a setback for the guy. Mentally, he seems to be laboring and fighting himself. He wears his anguish on his sleeve.
Why on earth did Cano swing at that pitch, let alone try to pull it?
they cant hit because everyvone of them swing at damn near everything..
Jeter is worthy for his leadership and playing ability but just as much for his marketing of the Yankees. He is THE FACE of the Yankees. And that’s —Priceless.
Benoit takes forever to throw a God dam pitch, that would irritate me if I was a batter.
look, I know the pen sucks, but after the first two runners got on in the 5th, you try a different, if only because the mosley wasn’t cutting it AND because the game was STILL close. I can understand leaving mosley in if the game was ALREADY a blowout, but when the score is close, you have to try another arm, even if that has a low potential of success, because that’s still better than letting mosely continue to fail.
# Chris W July 17th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
“Not really considering his career OBP through April 2010 is .386.
Those OBPs are around his career average.”
And his career batting average is .315. You don’t think he’s going to hit .315. So his OBP will be lower. Also, I’m not sure if his walk rate has actually dropped this season, but it feels like it.
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Jeter doesn’t have to hit at least .315 or even .300 to post .380 or .391 OBP, although it helps.
He or anyone else would need to get on base 228 times in 600 AB regardless of BA to post .380 OBP, 234 times to post .390 (I meant to post .390 OBP not .391.) Totally doable.
168 for 600 (a paltry .280 BA) with 8 HR, so 160 non-HR hits + 68 BB for .380, 74 BB for .390.
He collects 600 AB with starts at DH and in LF on days he breaks from SS plus rare PH appearances.
Tampa could easily be tied for first place if it wasn’t for Swisher last night.. AJ will never be consistent. He will never go on any kind of streak.. He just doesn’t have it mentally!!
With George Steinbrenner’s passing, the days of fat contracts for the DJ’s of the world are definitely over. Hal is as cool as a cucumber and Cashmoney is a shark with blue eyes. Anyhow, DJ better produce. That’s what GS would have said.
Thanks Gaudin!… Bullpen sucks!
Pat M.: “Or did Mantle & Ford pull a fast one on you again ????”
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Well, if the Mick is up moving around then I’m outta here!
Hey, Pat M., how you like this weather out there in the OC ?
By the way, where is CB and Trisha? Haven’t seen either one in a long time.
Bernie wasn’t the face of the organization… the one making speeches to close down YS, to honor George/Sheppard, the one getting criticized by the Daily News for missing a funeral, etc.
Bernie was just a good player who won championships. Jeter is a legend who is the face of the organization.
It is unfortunate, but his next contract is not going to be about baseball. If it is, he won’t be making more than $7- 8mil a year.
The Boss is rolling over in his grave.
It’s laughable that Gaudin, Park, Logan, Mosely comprise over half of our bullpen- a bunch of bums who are mop up men are taking up 4 spots on a 1st place team’s pen.
Posada got 4 years. He’s admired. But there was no catching heir on the horizon.
Damon was offered 2 years. He was adored. Crawford wasn’t a Free Agent yet.
Jeter will be offered 4 years because he’s loved. His replacement (maybe) was just signed.
Anyone who thinks differently is not accepting of the above logic.
Posada=4, Damon=2, Jeter=4
But it’s the dollar amount that will be the issue. My prediction is $15-$20M/per.
Who were they talking about with over 100 trips to Disney World? It’s very important I know this.
# Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 17th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
My hubby doesn’t necessarily believe the AJ injury story. When did this happen? Before the game or during the game?
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Doreen, we don’t know when it happened (I’m sure that will be covered after the game), but according to Kim Jones he tripped while going up stairs and scraped his hands while bracing his fall.
Well, at least they are sort of eating innings. So they can be thrown on the street having given their all.
It speaks volumes about what Cashman thinks of Albaladejo, Noba, Sanchez, Hirsch, Melancon that he allows these stooges like Gaudin, Logan, Park, etc. to remain here when we desperately need relief help.
Cash not bringing any of them up tells us all we need to know about what he thinks of them.
It all depends on how DJ produces the rest of the year. If he is declining, is that a face of the Yankees that the Steinbrenners want to shovel money for? Maybe DJ is banking on the face of the Yankees contract inspite of how he produces. It might be a shocker for him.
We win this game if Aceves was here.
“But it’s the dollar amount that will be the issue. My prediction is $15-$20M/per.”
DJ must have a great agent to get that kind of money after this season. DJ has his back to the wall imo. His production doesn’t warrant 15-20M. Also, he’s not going to another team no matter what he is paid. Unless he doesn’t care. 7 to 10 million a year is more than enough.
Melkman,
From your lips to God’s years, but I have a feeling that the Yankees are going to be suckered into giving Jeter a legacy contract rather than a baseball one.
.722 OPS shortstops are a dime a dozen… you can get that production from Eric Aybar or Clint Barmes for 400K rather than $20 million.
Buster on the case-
Buster_ESPN Early in the Yankees’ game, you could tell that pitching coach Dave Eiland was checking the discarded baseballs for something and it would seem to have been blood, given that A.J. Burnett came out of the game with hand lacerations after one inning.
Erin -
thanks.
I just wonder, did he do this before the game is all. My husband thinks he may have done something stupid in between innings when the game started off poorly, but the Yankees are telling a cover story.
This is as awful a game as they’ve played.
They will beat Price tomorrow.
When Jeter is 38-40 he definitely won’t be playing SS. Arod will probably be the DH after next year. So if Jeter isn’t at SS or DH then where on the diamond will he be? Unless a 38 year old Jeter is going to play LF the team won’t have a spot for him. Posada had a big year in his free agent year and Cash knew he would be the DH for the last 2 years of the contract. Big difference between him and Jeter….Jeter will probably get 2/$40-$45m.
The only way the Jeter negotiation won’t be messy is if Hal and Cash bend over and give Jeter his $20 mil a year without nay negotiation.
If they are serious about paying him for his actual production, not to give speeches, then that number should be cut in half.
Pepi……CB must be busy as the trading deadline approaches….As for Tricia, I received an e-mail from her the other day and she’s had some nut job harassing her via the electronic medium……She was here during the All-Star Game, but has been keeping a low profile…..She took some foul shots here some weeks ago….Erica left for awhile as did Betsy…..Notice Randy I ( Tin Cup ) has taken a vacation from here as well…..The place has changed allot, and not for the good I’m sorry to say….Many have departed from The LoHud….Weather here in Newport not too bad, but it has been in the mid 80′s which is hot
“They will beat Price tomorrow.”
That will be a first.
i prey curtis doesn’t play tommorrow
This seems to be the tease inning….
“Kim Jones is reporting that Cashman said A.J. tripped walking up the stairs and cut his hand bracing his fall.”
no way it happened that way. AJ surely knows by now the best way for him to break a fall without doing any damage is land on his head.
ten to one he hit someone or something.
“From your lips to God’s years, but I have a feeling that the Yankees are going to be suckered into giving Jeter a legacy contract rather than a baseball one.
.722 OPS shortstops are a dime a dozen… you can get that production from Eric Aybar or Clint Barmes for 400K rather than $20 million.”
Jeter is setting himself up to be the next Joe Dimaggio with that contract. He can come to special Yankee events and people will kiss his ring. Funny that GS was intimidated by Joe D.
Michelle,
Posada also had Omar Minaya ready to give him 4 years. Posada even admitted on Kay’s show at the time that he would have gone to the Mets had Cash not given him the 4th year.
Posada had a market. Even Rivera had a market. What is the market for a 37 yr old SS who is a singles hitter? His value is to the Yankees, not another team.
The Rays pitching coach and Maddon really get nervous as soon as guys reach base. They could have a ten run lead and the coach comes running out.
Never underestimate Hal and Hank bending over for Jeter. They panicked and did it with Arod with no other suitors for his services in sight. That may be all the clue that is needed when it comes to G.S.’s progeny.
Speaking of Melkman in Hotlanta… he is outperforming Curtis Granderson and we’re 2\3rd the way through the season….
So, randy l, you should meet my husband. He thinks the same thing.
Those tack-on run’s really hurting us today. This game could be much more within reach now.
“Posada had a market. Even Rivera had a market. What is the market for a 37 yr old SS who is a singles hitter? His value is to the Yankees, not another team.”
That’s why DJ has his back against the wall. It’s a business. Personally, I’d tell DJ to produce or expect a 50% reduction in salary and no legacy contract lol.
Is CB officially involved in major league baseball?
If Jeter’s future is as a .700 OPS player and not a .850 one like he has been in his career…. then it doesn’t matter what he gets paid because he is going to hurt the team.
We are going to have to fortify the offense around Jeter if we have to carry his weak bat. Which means, replacing guys like Granderson with guys who can actually hit like Crawford or Werth. And no more of this rotating DH nonsense, get a guy there who can hit.
“What is the market for a 37 yr old SS who is a singles hitter? His value is to the Yankees, not another team.”
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Right so the Yanks will overpay him per year instead of giving less money and more years. Everyone knows Jeter will get his $20m per year. Basically $10m for on the field and $10m for being the captain and off the field stuff. You know basically like when Torre was paid $6m when his teams weren’t getting the job done.
I hate to admit this, but I’ve tripped on the steps in dugout tunnel.
I’m 34 yrs old, in good shape, and I never trip, but I did. I was so friggin embarrassed. I blamed the new shoes I was wearing, but honestly, the steps are kinda small, smaller than the steps in my building.
It reminded me of the scene in “Pride of the Yankee” where Gehrig runs out of the dugout and trips over the bats, and every one in the stadium, including his future wife starts laughing at him, calling him “tangle foot”.
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 17th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Erin -
thanks.
I just wonder, did he do this before the game is all. My husband thinks he may have done something stupid in between innings when the game started off poorly, but the Yankees are telling a cover story.
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Doreen-that’s certainly possible. Maybe I’m totally naive, because I’m buying the story that he fell tripping up the stairs (at least for now LOL)
I don’t know why people are wasting so much breath worrying about Jeter’s next contract.
The Yankees are going to work something out with him at the end of the season.
It won’t stop they from putting a winning product on the field or a WS contender which is all that matters.
They have to convince Mo and Andy to come back as well at the end of the year and good luck doing that with all the junior GMs on here trying to make Jeter walk.
jeter 243 on the year against righties. legacy contract.. the yanks by law have to throw money at long time yankee contracts..
bulls-it.
I would bet that this off-season, if Jeter and MO both went out on the market and shopped themselves… Rivera would get higher offers, by about $3-4 million too.
I don’t see any team offering Jeter more than $8-9 mil. Rivera will probably be able to get $11-12 mil.
Teams are not jumping over themselves to get a declining shortstop with no speed, power, or defense from ages 37-40.
they should bring pettitte and Mo back after all they are not human and age will neve rcatch up to these guys. kinda like the early 60 yanks..
pettite will be 38 or 39 and Mo 41, why not give them 3 years each. it is only money!!!!!!!!!!!
Not surprised so many people here are drinking the Jeter cool aid. Jeter is bona fide 1st ballot – there’s no denying that. But he’s absolutely just killing this offense. He’s not getting on base and those 1st pitch soft ground ball outs are just not doing it.
But he will be overpaid for god knows how many more years because some “fans” are enamored by his upcoming 3,000 hit milestone. 3,000 hits is nice if you are in Minnesota or Seattle but I much rather have championships. I agree with another poster earlier – use that money Jeter wants for like a Crawford and get someone serviceable at short. But Jeter’s star power is too intoxicating!
jeter with another ground ball. man he never hits ground balls!!!!!!!!!!!
Old man Jeter with the slide. I am sure he knows getting into the slide slowed him down. 2 years ago he beats that out easy.
Andy and MO are still getting it done. In fact, they are on pace for the best seasons of their career. Andy is actually underpaid based on his production the last 2 years. MO is the best at what he does, still.
Jeter is on pace for the worst season of his career and is showing signs of decline. And presumably, he wants a deal longer than 2 years. The other guys will probably go year to year.
too bad yanks can’t get a hit here and there. too get soriano in the game.
jeter 3 straight good at bats, but only 1 hit
at least jeter made him throw a few pitches. Oops my bad this in son the first inning.
again Jeter looks like he is really slowing down fast, hope that is not the case but father time rules,,,,,
Melky please come back:
.263 3 24 .321 .350
Disappointing game today especially after such a great comeback last night.. Goes to show you that you’re only as good as your last game.. Is Jeter batting below .270 now?
Erin
I’m buying it too; it’s happened to me. I’ve been known to be naive.
WON’T BE LONG BEFORE YOU CAN’T USE JETER AS THE WHIPPING BOY.
ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS
Its funny/pathetic how the Yanks are only pitching the garbage in this game and they have filled 6 with a couple of different guys. And Park didn’t even get into the game!! It shows how bad the bullpen is. I like Gaudin but only against righties.
Aceves and (sigh) Marte will be back. That should free up the release of Park and Moseley.
But I’d make a major move for a Joakim Soria, Carlos Marmol, or Leo Nunez.
I’m just as concerned about not having a good lefty available, so there could be a move there too. I’d try to pick up someone like Sherrill or Ohman as the situational lefty, by trading Logan and a minor league player or two. Maybe even revisit Phil Coke if Detroit drops out of contention.
Now that I think of it, if Detroit were to collapse, maybe there’d be a couple familiar names available…a bat, and an arm.
Gaudin shouldn’t be in the AL!
AJ in 2.0 innings gave up 4 runs, Moseley in 3.0 innings gave up 4 runs, and Gaudin in 4.0, innings gave up 2 runs.
The Rays scored in every inning, but 4th 7th. and 9th.
Jeter has lost captain clutch title, he’s a dud now.
Back to 2 up!
Doreen – GTLU Stuff & Photos July 17th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Erin
I’m buying it too; it’s happened to me
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Me too. lol
just end this game!!!!!!
7 runs. Let’s go.
where has arod’s power gone?
that’s a power display
The what have you done for me lately crowd is in full bloom this season……
a 4 hour game like this one is like watching paint dry
Now we get the 9th inning tease like usual. It’s too late now boys…
who can run like cano” ..mccarver knows not of what he speaks.
cano hitting 209 in july
thank god it’s over…
Thank God… onto a new day tomorrow against their ace.. Pettitte better be on his game!
New Post: Old-Timers’ Day: Reggie: “I’d rather not be here today.
Finally this near 4 hr sh*t show is over.
Another quality start, as defined by Oliver Perez, by Burnett!
I think we’re getting ahead of ourselves on Jeter.
But I do think if Jeter continues to bat below .200 during August, September, and the playoffs, then Jeter will do the right thing and ask for a single year contract with an option.
Thanks Pat M.
I was wondering about that. I have to agree the posting on LoHud have gone down the tubes.
Too many children writing about baseball that know nothing about the game. There are still a few that do a good job, but not enough.
See you next time.
WMD – write Jeter off at your own peril. Yes, he is having by far his worst season. So far. But people started writing him off as being in decline a couple years ago and he came back with a great, MVP-type year last year. We’ll see what happens.