Injury update: Pettitte diagnosed with Grade 1 strain (UPDATED)
Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on Jul 18, 2010 
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Andy Pettitte is already back from his MRI. He was diagnosed with a Grade 1 strain of his groin. Grade 1 is the least severe diagnosis.
The Yankees will continue to evaluate Pettitte over the next couple days. They have not determined whether or not he will be placed on the DL, although Joe Girardi said: “If he can’t take his turn, someone’s going to have to take his turn and step up. We’re going to have to talk about it internally here, with the options that we have, but it looks like he’s probably headed to the DL.”
Pettitte said he first fell discomfort on the final pitch he threw, a 2-and-1 offering to Kelly Shoppach. Jorge Posada motioned to the dugout to have someone check on Pettitte. Girardi and Gene Monahan came to the mound and had Pettitte try a warmup toss. The groin really barked on the warmup when he swung his left leg around on his follow through, Pettitte said.
“Usually I sit here and say I can pitch through anything. But I was hurt. I was hurt pretty bad,” Pettitte said. “I hope that I feel great tomorrow. I hope I don’t feel anything. But I’m being pretty realistic when I say they’re pretty cautious here. We just have to see what happens. Hopefully the next couple days it feels better.”
Girardi said he would have discussions this afternoon about who is the best candidate to replace Pettitte. He said the options were Sergio Mitre, Chad Gaudin and Dustin Moseley.
Mitre just said he has been stretched out to 60 pitches. He would hope in his next outing he could be stretched even further, although he had anticipated returning in a long-man role, not in the rotation.
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Very happy that it’s just a grade one strain. Hopefully he won’t have to miss too much time.
Missing 15 days wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Let’s just hope the rest of the rotation picks it up a bit.
Comet, Stottlemyer gets overlooked by everybody except by those that actually saw him. Career ERA under 3, 3 20 win seasons with some of the worst Yankee teams in history, 40 complete game shutouts, 9 straight seasons of 250 innings plus….and that big bat (7 career homers), great fielder. How many rookie pitchers with 13 career starts get a 2nd game WS start? If he was doing that in this era, he’d be getting $20 Mil a year. As classy a pitcher as you’ll ever see. The only thing he didn’t rack up was strikeouts. Of course, he didn’t walk anybody, either.
It’s dangerously close the trade deadline.
Hope they’re not fibbing.
Albaladejo threw another clean inning today. His ERA stands at 0.99.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=452293
GB7 – you are 100% correct. Mel was a tremendous pitcher. He’d get CC money, or close to it, if were in his prime today. Many younger fans don’t realize the quality of the players in past generations, too bad.
Giuseppe Franco July 18th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
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You just hit a HR.
Wow. Bad play by Rios to allow the go ahead winner to score in the bottom of the 9th.
Hope to see Andy soon. Not comfortable with the possible replacements.
big al, lol. way to cheer on a goof that uses terms like jackass and jerkoff, guess you’re just a hypocrite, nothing wrong with that, everyone’s a hypocrite, no harm in that…and im pretty sure goof giuseppe has problems walking, lol
Saw Goose pitch 6 innings in the first Legends game against the Red Sox in SWB in ’08. He can still bring it. When he got serious, that radar had him at 88 MPH.
how can goof giuseppe hit a home run if he has trouble walking, need leg strength to hit HR…
I was happy how Joba threw today. He pitched great in the 8th. Got in a little trouble in the 9th but he hasn’t been asked to go 2 innings this year. The only reason he was in the game was because the bullpen was short.
Joba been inconsistent but for the most part he has did his job and got the ball to Mariano. Off the top of my head he probably has had 4-5 apperances out of his 40 games that he has pitched scary bad. Where he just gave up a 3 or 4 runs. He still needs to learn how to limit the damage when he doesn’t have his best stuff and his era would look a lot more respectable.
Way uncool with those comments..
It’s a good thing Mo is a gentleman, otherwise he might have body slammed Joba a few weeks ago!
Sorry Andy is hurt, but as Giuseppe wrote two weeks off for a 38-year-old start in the heat of the summer isn’t a disaster. Might only be two starts, which I assume Mitre will make.
Boy they need some innings out of Vazquez and Hughes the next two times out.
I was a kid when Stott was having his best years with the Yankees. Amazing a guy can be 164-139 with a 2.97 ERA. He had some bad teammates.
Sometimes when you throw dirt, it blows back in your face. I don’t condone it either way, but, I can understand his position when you don’t let up, and continue to throw dirt. If you stop, he’ll stop, I’m sure. Giuseppe Franco is generally a good poster, that does not talk about issues, other than baseball related. Again, not pleased to see this going on with this blog.
Very glad that Pettitte’s report was as good as it was. Now let’s hope for a super speedy recovery because the Yankees do not have a replacement for him on their roster at the moment…and besides, I love Andy.
I would give Nova a shot.
Rich in NJ I agree. Mitre not ready to start, not stretched out. Nova is an up and coming star, and this could be a chance to see how far he’s come. You never now, injuries some times bring us unexpected surprises!
Back from the beach in time to see the end of the game. Great win…
As for Andy, I know he missed 15 days back in 2001 but he is now 38 so I would imagine they’re going to be extra cautious with him. He’s needed for the playoff run and then deep into (hopefully) October. Seems like Joe is leaning towards using Moseley on Saturday based on his comments in the post-game. Don’t think Mitre is ready to log a lot of innings right out of the box.
And AJ has to step it up, too. Andy’s replacement may be shaky at best so the Yanks can’t afford to have two big question marks in the rotation.
A shot of Nova-caine?
Give me one, some of these comments are painful to read.
Yankee players get graded: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5380587
Betsy’s number 1 hater:
You are a despicable person. So small that you need to denigrate someone else to build yourself up. You don’t belong here. Leave. Now.
m he way uncool with his screen name. It just gets worse from there.
PLEASE don’t tell me that Girardi is seriously considering Moseley or Gaudin! Let’s start a campaign to start Swisher, his ERA is still zero!
He’s probably the same clown giving the nostradumbazz predictions earlier this AM Comet.
He just changed the SN because he doesn’t have the guts to go by one SN and have to back up his posts.
Just another child with nothing better to do in his empty life.
He will be eating out of garbage pails by his 18th birthday.
Another wasted life.
15 days may not be the end of the world but that means 3 starts from the Moseley/Gaudin and 3 more from knucklehead Burnett in the next 2 weeks. One should be extremely happy if any one of these humps manages not to soil himself and make the already crappy bullpen pitch 6 or 7 innings.
“A shot of Nova-caine?”
m
Trademark that now because if Nova establishes himself, you may be able to market t-shirts.
m July 18th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
A shot of Nova-caine?
Give me one, some of these comments are painful to read.
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Nova would be better than Moseley – No? Who would you suggest start in Andy’s spot, if he’s DL’d?
86w183 Stottlemyre played on some of the worst Yankee teams of all time. He was great among plays who were has beens, fill ins and never will be’s. The Yankees sihned or traded for a lot of players at or near the end of their careers hoping to catch lighting in bottle. Mostly it didn’t happen.
This was a really nice win for the Yanks.
Down 3-0 against the guy who had previously owned them and had the best ERA in the league and the injury to Pettitte early could have made this team fold.
But they didn’t and the pen did a great job keeping the Rays at bay while the offense did an outstanding job (with 2 outs, no less) taking the hammer to Price.
Not the biggest believer in momentum, but it should be a confidence builder for this club if nothing else.
Only two games against the Angels followed by eight games against the Royals and Indians before deadline weekend on the road in TB.
All in all, a good weekend for the Bombers.
min..15 days, these things can last a while
Out of that era of Yankee players and trades, the worst was trading Stan Bahnsen for Rich McKinney, straight up. The had the beginnings of a fine rotation.
GB–My family drove 1000 miles to see our family in 1964, and I got to go to Stottlemyre’s first games so he was alsoways a favorite of mine. Ground ball after ground ball.
Hughes will pitch well on my birthday. And Alex will hit his 600th homer also.
damn, 15+ days
any chance AJ misses a start
GB7 – They traded Stan Bahnsen because of his off field activities.
GB the Stan Bahnsen for Rich McKinney trade never made sense to me either. I like Bahnsen. Didn’t he won ROY?
Pettitte diagnosed with Grade 1 strain
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So what.
We still have the best record in baseball.
Big Al,
I would favor a Scranton starter over a long man. Put Andy on the DL and bring up Alby.
Rich,
You’re a lawyer right? Intellectual property?
Bahnson did win ROY. That trade never made sense to me, either. If Bahnson had problems with extracurricular activities, that would make it a bit more understandable. McKinney really went downhill fast. Another example of how nothing went right for the Yankees in those days.
Bahnsen had no “off field activities. NYY needed a 3rd baseman and Rich McKinney was the hottest young 3rd base ticket going. He ended up being a major flop.
Girardi said he would have discussions this afternoon about who is the best candidate to replace Pettitte. He said the options were Sergio Mitre, Chad Gaudin and Dustin Moseley.
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Why? Darrell Rasner, Colter Bean, Tim Reddings, Matt DeSalvo, Sydney Ponson, Chase Wright, and Sean Henn not available?
So you still want to talk about how the Yankees farm system is underrated.
Sorry – I was thinking of Fritz Petersen. Stan Bahnson was a good pitcher, although his career W-L was 146-149, he did have a career 3.60 ERA. When he was traded to the White Sox, he pitched in a 4 man rotation, and threw over 250 innings, thus burning out his arm early. Why I get those guys mixed up I’ll never know.
Bahnsen had a 17-12 record and a 2.05 ERA to win the ’68 ROY with a bad team. 260+ innings. McKinney lasted 1 year with the Yankees.
Nice! Matthews gave Gardner a nice writeup, grade, and said he might be the best bargain in baseball. Definitely the best position player bargain. Considering who he replaced.
Bahnsen’s arm couldn’t have been burned out too badly. He won 21 games one year and was traded to Oakland for a great young center fielder in Chet Lemon.
Rich McKinney hit .271 with all of eight HR for the Sox in 1971 before being traded to the Yanks. He was hardly the hottest thing going.
And he damn sure did nothing in pinstripes. Bahnsen, while not a great pitcher did win 21 for the Sox in ’72. Horrible, stupid trade and typical of the Yanks management in those days.
I’m okay with giving Nova shot. It’s only two starts if Pettite is ready in 15 days. Nova and Ablie up, Gaudin out and Andy on the DL. That’s what I’d do.
Groin pulls take a long time to heal fully, especially as one gets older. It’s vital not to come back to soon, lest the groin re-pull. The Yanks are in great shape for the regular season, but they want Pettitte at 100% for the post season. For these reasons, I expect Pettitte to be out more than 15 days.
lol k-rod
K-Rod blown save in SF!
Didn’t read the whole thing, but Joba and Park had D’s and NJ got an ‘F’.
I think Robertson’s grade should include the extra credit he earned today. A ‘C’ is too harsh IMO.
What happened to the good Krod? It’s obvious the Angels knew something about his arm when they let him leave. Game is now tied with the go ahead run on 3rd.
Bahnsen was 4-6, 6.01 when the Sox somehow got Oakland to trade Chet Lemon for him in 1975. The fact that trade was made in no way is a reflection on the kind of pitcher Bahnsen was at the time. In fact, his best season was his rookie year.
m,
I agree about DRob. He has shown much better stuff his last few starts. I am really optimistic that he has turned it around. And he doesn’t get rattled.
I was out most of the day, but also got to see or hear almost the entire game. Missed the top of the ninth, though and the first 2 innings.
Fantastic and important win for the Yankees, both because it gave the series against the Rays, and allowed them to pick up a game, and second, because the bullpen came up big and the offense didn’t let up. Just a nice, nice win.
It is not nice to lose Andy for a start or two or three, BUT it may be a blessing in disguise – the old man could probably use a break in the middle of the season and he can be fresher down the stretch.
Now, the only problem is who replaces him and it could also be another blessing in disguise or an opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle with a call-up. I don’t know that’ I’d want to rely on Mitre if it has to be more than one start.
Love the day Jeter had!!!!
The Mets didn’t Frankie-proof the game enough.
Ump blows the call in the Mets game..lol The homeplate ump had a terrible game today.
Phil Cuzzi.
D-Rob’s work today was key. Bringing him in in that spot was one of the best decisions Girardi has made. Great job by all there.
Phil Cuzzi has to be the worst ump ever. CB Bucknor is a close number 2.
Great series wins considering 2 of our starters gave us nothing.
Phil Cuzzi is the guy that called the Mauer ball foul. He doesn’t know whats fair or foul.
poor giants should have won
# Ace July 18th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Girardi said he would have discussions this afternoon about who is the best candidate to replace Pettitte. He said the options were Sergio Mitre, Chad Gaudin and Dustin Moseley.
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Why? Darrell Rasner, Colter Bean, Tim Reddings, Matt DeSalvo, Sydney Ponson, Chase Wright, and Sean Henn not available?
So you still want to talk about how the Yankees farm system is underrated.
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Do you think the Yanks could pick up Pavano????
Robertson’s ERA may never come down because he has two four-run outings, but overall he’s done a very good job including five straight scoreless appearances since the disaster against Toronto.
Just getting caught up on today’s happenings.
Looks like it was a great win.
Robertson is slowly but surely pitching his way into the EIG role.
If the the choices are Mitre, Gaudin, or Moseley to fill in for Andy I would go with either Mitre or Moseley.
If they chose a guy from the minors I go with Phelps over Nova. He had a terrific game for SWB today. Only gave up 1 run and struck out 10.
Hey Maddon. How did that feel ?
Mitre to start Sat against the Royals per Matthews.
He also says Pettitte is out 4-5 weeks which seems like a long time for a Grade 1 strain.
4-5 weeks for a grade one says Cashman? Man that’s a long time for a grade 1. Maybe they are being cautious.
Mitre Sucks btw. Don’t see why they don’t give Nova a chance.
Given the fact he’s 38, and its the second time he’s hurt the groin, that sounds about right.
Gets him back on or around August 15.
If they can survive it, this can really help Andy in the end. It will preserve his arm and have him strong for the stretch drive.
This would be a nice time for AJ Burnett to get on a nice run, which he usually does at some point in a season.
Would be a nice way of putting yesterday behind him.
D-Rob’s work today was key. Bringing him in in that spot was one of the best decisions Girardi has made. Great job by all there.
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Doreen,
That is a great point. Everybody is quick to bash Girardi for his bullpen decisions, but bringing Robertson in with the runners on was a great move. He warmed up fast and is used to coming in with runners on base.
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I know they are not exactly comparable but what level of strain was Grandy’s ? I don’t recall.
Mitre has pitched better than Nova this year.
They will always give the guy at the ML level the first shot.
Mitre is basically the #6 starter anyway. Now, he gets first crack at the spot.
Mets came back and won. Shocked.
Mitre? I’d prefer someone stretched out and not fresh off the DL.
Fingers crossed, and hoping for the best. Probably the best of the ML candidates if we’re talking at least 4 starts.
It’s been so long since we’ve had a AAA starter come up and actually start. Was Hughes the last one?
The Robertson move told us a lot of what was in Girardi’s head.
He saw that as the key point of the game. Which, IMO, it was.
He brought in the guy he trusts the most right now outside of Mo.
Tells me that Robertson is going to end up being the EIG before all is said and done.
Especially since Joba was shaky again today.
Too many pitches in the middle of the plate again for Joba. Been a season long problem for him, unfortunately.
You know what? I read a lot about the demise of Johan Santana but Gary Cohen said he has allowed 1 run or less in 12 of his starts this year. If he’s pitching on a team that scores some runs for him, he probably has 15 wins already.
Granderson’s was a Grade 2 strain.
With a pitcher though, you always err on the side of caution.
If you don’t, and it pops, that’s a season ending injury.
I actually watched the Mets game today – say what you want about them but they do play some pretty fun games to watch from the few that I have witnessed this year. Ok, off to dinner before ESPN game of the week.
Sj-
Thanks for the info. Whatever the medical staff thinks is best.
I bet you had one hell of a great time being at the stadium for the Rays series.
You’re a lucky man.
I still remember people wanting to just dump Javy at the beginning of the season and saying things like they don’t need him
What happened to Pettitte today is one of the main reasons why Javy was traded for. Having a 38 year old pitcher miss time is not exactly unforeseeable.
All Yankee fans should be very happy today that Javy Vazquez is in pinstripes.
LGY-
Spot on.
SJ44 – I agree Mitre has the MLB experience, but, coming off the DL, and not being stretched out yet, I think makes him the long man in the bullpen, and possibly Nova gets a shot to see if he’s ready, or they can evalutae how far he’s come.
Gotta wonder if trading for a starting pitcher like Lilly is something Cashman is seriously contemplating after the Pettitte injury today.
For the sake of argument, if Cashman decides to trade for Lilly and Pettitte returns on Aug 15th, Hughes would probably head to the pen (as much as I wouldn’t like it) to make sure he finishes the season about where he needs to be. And, of course, to solidify the pen.
IDK, I’m not a fan of Lilly. Never have been. I hope if they do make a move for him that the Cubs won’t being asking a ridiculous price in return.
watching krod makes me love rivera, even more, krod the biggest clown in baseball
what’s a EIG?
Yeah the Cubs would be reasonable if the Yankees came knocking for Lilly, they would probably ask for Montero and Nunez.
Eigth inning guy
Robin-
An eight inning guy. essentailly a setup man for Mo.
Eighth – dah
Any front line pitcher would cost way too much, both in prospects and $. Lilly is not that type of pitcher, and would not cost too much. I think the Yankees want time to evaluate Andy’s condition further, before making any decision.
oh, thanks. I’m just call them the “setup” guy. Hard to keep up.
# RhapsodyInBlue July 18th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Yeah the Cubs would be reasonable if the Yankees came knocking for Lilly, they would probably ask for Montero and Nunez.
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They can ask, but they won’t get ‘em.
Trading Montero for Cliff Lee is one thing. Trading him for Ted Lilly is another.
10-3 in July
25 games over .500
3 game lead in the East.
7 game lead over Boston, and they’re starting a dreadful 10 game westcost trip, after losing 3 of 4 at home (and came an out away from being swept).
It comes down to Mitre or Nova. A quality start from either is acceptable. It will be a good time for the bullpen to shine.
Andy’s groin strain aside, Cashman will be busy until 7/31 to see if he goes in-house for another bullpen arm or scans rosters for a deal that’s not outrageous. Another RH bat is also in his thoughts.
Andy’s next four starts where scheduled against:
KC at home 7/24
@ Cle on 7/29
Tor at home 8/3
Bos at home 8/9
@KC on 8/ 14
that’s a pretty good list for Mitre to face.
What a pleasure. I was just catching up on the blog. For a while there, things were out of hand, but now the conversation is interesting, etc.
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GB7
By the way GB, I am glad my memory isn’t as good as yours. I don’t remember each and every player in pinstripes during the later 60′s and 70′s. There were lots of them that much I remember.
I would not be shocked to see them make a Lilly caliber move.
If Pettite is out a month or more when he comes back might just be the right time, based on innings for Hughes to go to the bullpen anyway. This could turn out reasonably well.
My concern about Lilly is that he’s a fly ball pitcher and the Stadium is starting to once again look like a long ball haven in the heat.
Curious to see how the baseball world reacts to Alex hitting No. 600. Here’s a stat I haven’t seen anywhere.
Prior to joiing the Yankees (pre steroid testing) Alex hit 345 HR in 4,989 AB (1 HR/14.46 AB).
Since joining the Yankees (and getting tested) Alex has 253 HR in 3,639 AM (1 HR/14.38 AB).
Calls into question how much he benefited from “Boli” if at all