Cashman: “Limited options and high price tags”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 19, 2010 
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When I talked to Brian Cashman this afternoon, I told him that — apparently – all he needs to do is make a quick, easy trade for Joakim Soria and all his bullpen problems will be solved. He knew I was kidding. I could tell because he didn’t hang up the phone right away.
“It’s going to be a very difficult trade market,” Cashman said. “Limited options and high price tags. I wouldn’t be all that optimistic.”
The bullpen reportedly ranks below the bench in terms of trade priorities, and some of that might be the reality of the two roles. The Yankees proved last summer that it’s pretty easy to add solid bench pieces — Eric Hinske and Jerry Hairston were minor pickups who played quality roles down the stretch — but the bullpen is tricky.
Most lockdown relievers who could step confidently into the eighth inning would cost an arm and a leg. Literally. Kansas City and Florida would be well within their rights to ask for a significant hitting and pitching prospect for someone like Soria orLeo Nunez. A guy like Scott Downs — who has fairly significant left-right splits — might be more likely as a trade target.
Part of the problem with assembling and patching a bullpen is that even the best relievers are not always predictable. Last year the Yankees stumbled into their top setup man when they converted Phil Hughes. The Royals originally landed Soria in the Rule 5 draft. The Brewers have found success with closer John Axford, who was an absolute no-name in the Yankees minor league system three years ago.
It’s the nature of the beast in the bullpen, and the Yankees might be more likely to stick with Joba Chamberlain — trusting that his old dominance is still in there somewhere — than make a deal for a big name setup man to take his place.
Associated Press photo of Chamberlain.
What a missed opportunity to tell Cashman of the merits of Brett Myers…
i kid, i kid…
Nice work alerting him to the Soria solution.
“The Royals originally landed Soria in the Rule 5 draft.”
And now they have K. Texeira. Stolen in the rule 5 draft.
We are not happy. Hawaiin born players are not to be messed with. Put a spell on them m.
Cash will definitely acquire a quality arm to help solidify the BP. No question there. Soria, Downs, or Nunez would be more than ideal for the right price, but whether they are realistic possibilities…who knows. Cash will never tell lol.
And frankly, most of the topics to do with the Yankees on slow days have been beaten to death and muppets and similar changes of topic are welcome diversions.
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Which Muppet was beaten to death??!!???
The fans have lost faith in Joba. You gotta believe that the team has as well.
Other than Cliff Lee, I am not interested in any of the “propsed” starting pitchers that could be available in a trade.
I’d rather stick with Mitre and refrain from giving away any prospects.
Oswalt-Forget about that guy
Westbrook-No thanks
Ted Lilly-I don’t want this limp arm pitching in Yankee Stadium
Cash will acquire a shut down reliever, his name is Jon. Albaladejo and he will throw 16 consecutive scoreless innings with a 10 k/9 leading up to october.
He will later be traded with Curtis Granderson for Matt Kemp in the offseason.
Leaving work! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
this gammons article on mlb.com trying to justify bautista’s power surge is hilarious…
Michael Kay thinks Mitre is as good as Brett Myers
muppet?
I was a big proponent of Mitre over Gaudin in the offseason and as an insurance policy. The further he gets out from TJS the better he will be. Better doesnt mean an ace or anything, but a poor man’s Wang with more hard contact but a better K rate is useful.
a muppet died?
jerkface – now that is some craziness that i approve of.
Francessa absolutely ripping the ump in the mets game last night who blew the home plate call,cuzzy??
Classic,funny stuff,destroying him.
As always, Cashman never tips his hand. He could think that Chad is the greatest guy on the planet but only a select few in the organization are privvy to what moves he’d like to make or will make.
The nearest to a sure thing is that Cashman is looking at internal options and will be talking to certain GM’s not located in Seattle or Minnesota.
Get off Jeter’s back with this funeral thing. No one has brought up that in between Sheppard’s death and the funeral, George Steinbrenner, a close personal friend of Jeter’s passed away.
I suspect Cashman is fibbing when he rates the bench as a higher priority then bullpen. Games aren’t won or lost on the bench.
I’d avoid NL relievers like The Plague if I was in Cashman’s shoes.
Downs would add quality depth, and since he’s spent all his time in the AL he wouldn’t require these when the pressure game against TB and Bos come:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-ni.....s/1049485/
One thing he isn’t though, is a lock-down EIG.
Carl July 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Michael Kay thinks Mitre is as good as Brett Myers
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I agree with Kay.
What is wrong w/Mitre? How is it that Myers is greater than Mitre in 2010?
I have much more confidence in Mitre, then trading for some has-been that once pitched for the phillies.
Someone else mentioned calling up Albie for bullpen help-I like that idea.
The problem is, who is moved/sent down to make room for Albie?
I don’t have a quick answer to that question
mick -
No muppets were harmed. Not to worry.
Francessa is very listenable today.
(Cause I agree with most of what he’s saying, of course.
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Francesa is right,how close to a 99 year old man can you be?
Sheppard was a few years removed from the team.
Is madden the person that should be deciding who is at a funeral.
2 yankees at murcers funeral.
I am sure jeter payed his respects in other ways that did not require him to be at the funeral
& is paying tribute to the man for the whole world to see.
Where is Kevin Towers in all of this? When he was with the Padres, he was always able to find pitchers on the cheap who would become very good to excellent relievers.
# Warning Track Power July 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Carl July 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Michael Kay thinks Mitre is as good as Brett Myers
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I agree with Kay.
What is wrong w/Mitre? How is it that Myers is greater than Mitre in 2010?
I have much more confidence in Mitre, then trading for some has-been that once pitched for the phillies.
Someone else mentioned calling up Albie for bullpen help-I like that idea.
The problem is, who is moved/sent down to make room for Albie?
I don’t have a quick answer to that question
Mitre can start for the Yankees, but saying he’s better than Bret Myers? Come on.
A pitcher that can’t be used might get sent down for albaladejo.
Speculation is that albaladejo will be called up soon.
I’d be suprised if he isn’t up in a day or two.
If I were Cash, I would forget about Gaudin, Moesley, and Chan Ho…replace them with Albie, Sanchez/Nova, and a BP arm via trade market. That should definitely help.
The Bullpen should look like this:
Mariano Rivera
Joba Chamberlain
Dave Robertson
Damaso Marte (when he returns from DL, bye bye Boone Logan)
Jonathan Albaladejo
Sanchez/Nova (Aceves will eventually return as the Long-Man)
A Quality Arm from trade, hopefully someone that can handle the 8th inning.
can moseley be sent down?
Meyers might not be much of an upgrade over mitre when considering we might have to trade for a bat & pen help.
Jeter isn’t going to win the battle of the two funerals, regardless of what he does. His boss,friend owner of the team dies on the day he’s on the west Coast and is scheduled to fly back to Florida that night, while an acquaintence is scheduled to have a funeral the next day, that he may or may not about the day/time and may not have been asked by the family to attend. I’m sure that his first thought was to see the Steinbrenner family. Keep in mind that the Sheppard funeral was for family and very close friends and not open to the public. No press, though they were camped outside waiting for interviews. The pigs are vultures. It’s a disgusting stunt pumped up stunt by the media to sell a story for a week.
Mike F. must have had a very refreshing vacation.
I’m really enjoying him today. I can’t get used to this though; most times I HATE his show.
Myers is 7-6, with a 3.35 ERA
His avg innings per start is approx 6 2/3
Mitre has appeared in 12 games, 2 of those are starts
He is 0-1 with a 2.88 ERA
Is acquiring Myers worth trading away some prospects for, when we have Mitre already on the team?
I don’t think so.
Meanwhile, Andy Pettitte is out 4-6 weeks with a groin tear and A.J. Burnett’s 4.99 ERA has him punching walls. Derek Jeter’s OPS is a few points better than Marco Scutaro’s. The Yankees are a good team, but they’re not as good as they were last year, so do not discount the division.
sab -
You need a new dictionary. STUPIDEST – adjective – meaning: Not sensible or intelligent.
The biggest problem for buyers before the trade deadline is that of the 30 teams, only 12 are truly out of contention for a playoff spot. 18 teams are 6 games or less from the division or wild card lead. With still over 40% of games left to play many of those 18 teams are still waiting or hoping they remain a buyer or at least not a seller.
You have to plan without ace & nj,that is what cash is doing i would imagine.
Alby will be up soon,there is no way he isn’t given a chance when he could solve our pen problems completely putting our attention on a bat,maybe a starter.
If alby is a lockdown 8th inning guy it aligns the pen up nicely,joba,robertson slide up.
Pretty cheap and lazy to cut and paste a word-for-word article to pass off as your own.
The first guy in line for the EIG is Robertson. His stock is rising esp with yesterday’s Houdini act.
# Warning Track Power July 19th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Myers is 7-6, with a 3.35 ERA
His avg innings per start is approx 6 2/3
Mitre has appeared in 12 games, 2 of those are starts
He is 0-1 with a 2.88 ERA
Is acquiring Myers worth trading away some prospects for, when we have Mitre already on the team?
I don’t think so.
Who said trade for Myers? I’m saying that Myers is a better pitcher than Mitre. That is all.
I’m with Nick from SF.
I saw the Marcus Thames signed ball and asked the age old question….
Which one of these does not belong with the others?
Two words: Stand pat.
Yankees are clearly not as good as they were last year.
*on pace to win more games*
*is a better overall team than last year*
# GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Pretty cheap and lazy to cut and paste a word-for-word article to pass off as your own.
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Especially when that piece is authored by the former devil of LoHud. LOL.
Any updates on CMW? Where is he in the rehab cycle with the Nationals?
“Laura – I Bleed Blue says:
July 19, 2010 at 5:10 pm
The fans have lost faith in Joba. You gotta believe that the team has as well.”
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People here lose faith in almost every player in every game. The fans are hardly a measure
doreen – i’m telling ya, it’s that kitchen kabaret he ate yesterday. that place is absolutely amazing, and puts a smile on my face just thinkin about it lol…
Jeremy Hermida will be back Thursday. Josh Beckett returns on Friday. Victor Martinez played catch today and figures to get a little better every day. The spring-training lineups will start to disappear soon enough.
You also have to be encouraged by a bullpen that now includes Jonathan Papelbon, Daniel Bard, Manny Delcarmen and Michael Bowden in key roles instead of Hideki Okajima, Ramon Ramirez and that combustible crew.
The team losing games now is not the team that will be on the field next week. And that team will get better the week after that.
Is it Cheap and Lazy when you make your blog handle the name of the original author? Isn’t that just alerting people what said author wrote?
I really hope Robertson has turned his season around.
Whether he pitches the 8th inning or 3rd inning, it provides a huge boost for the bullpen that has missed his effectiveness dearly.
I wonder how people would be viewing the bullpen right now if Aceves had not been injured most of the year.
He left a huge hole but the starters really stepped things up so he wouldn’t have been needed for multiple innings too often.
Cheap and Lazy is still available as a blog handle.
Too many characters. I’d choose between them but I’m too lazy.
The team losing games now is not the team that will be on the field next week. And that team will get better the week after that.
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That may be true but they still have a much tougher 2nd half schedule than the Yanks or Rays do.
They aren’t a good road team with or without their big pieces.
Well, the relievers were the story of yesterday’s game.
Cheap and Lazy is still available as a blog handle.
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So are Sneezy and Grumpy.
When you see that picture above of Joba, it was a night he blew the lead in a game, Joe Yanked him after the lousy outing, he looks drunk.
Irreverent Discourse -
Too funny. :l)
“Too many characters. I’d choose between them but I’m too lazy.”
I think cheapjerklazyface fits you quite nicely.
Just sign Aaron Small and expect him to go 10-0 in the stretch run. Problem solved.
Saw John Kruk in Legoland(san diego). I walked by him and told my son ” hey thats John Kruk.” He replied ” who’s John Kruk”. Where getting old fellas. BTW, he looked like someone who needed to be introduced to a razor. Looked scared when I made that comment. I’v never asked anyone for their autograph.
Players I would ask for autographs that are under 50 years of age.
Jeter
Jordan
P. Manning
Mattingly
Alex
???
Need I also remind you that the team leads the league in runs scored — even though having been playing without those key players?
The reality is the Red Sox are 3.5 games out of a playoff spot with 70 left to play. No offense to those who will, but declaring the season over makes little sense.
# mick July 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Well, the relievers were the story of yesterday’s game.
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But they’ve thrown the fewest innings in the league. The last two days have not been the norm by a long shot.
That certainly wasn’t the case last year. The pen was among the league leaders in innings pitched.
I’d still argue that the lack of consistent work could very well be a big reason why they haven’t been as effective as they should be.
swbyankeesTT The SWB rotation through Friday: Mitre-Nova-Redding-McAllister-Phelps. Jason Hirsh, sched. for Wed., has been bumped. Probably will go Sat.
swbyankeesTT Both Jonathan Albaladejo and Romulo Sanchez are in SWB clubhouse right now. Both are going about business as they usually would, it seems.
Chad-I’m not sure Scott Downs would be any easier to obtain than Leo Nunez. Granted Nunez has a 2M contract and Downs a FA, a 4M contract-but Downs is a lefty and in the same division.
Chad Tracy already has 4 homers at SWB, and might be called up as a lefty DH and fill in at 3rd.
What ever happened to lefty Royce Ring, who has done pretty well at AAA?
Fausto Carmona is more like Wang, than Mitre.
Sanchez in AAA would be a nail-biter-too many walks.
Albaladejo will be brought up soon, as a solution or as trade bait before the deadline.
I’m not counting on a return of Aceves, and isn’t Marte dealing with the same shoulder problems that kept him out most of last year?
Need I also remind you that the team leads the league in runs scored
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I heard the little league world series will be played in that piss box this year. They want to increase runs in the tournament and fill the seats up with more chicks. Chicks dig the long ball.
I think Rom “mon” Sanchez should be given another opportunity. He has started and now out of the pen. He can give you innings. Plus he is on the 40 man. I also like Jon Alba______ as a one inning guy. Maybe he deserves another chance while Joba can figure out how to pitch again.
Robertson supposedly fixed a mechanical issue with his delivery,he was said to be throwing across his body.
Just so everybody knows, I would be in favor of sending Hughes to the bullpen later this season, as a move to counter his innings limit the Yankees have for him this season.
Nothing wrong with that at all.
Backbench-
Attached is an article in Washington Post on Wang:
http://voices.washingtonpost.c....._chie.html
“I heard the little league world series will be played in that piss box this year.”
Sweet, Pedroia can finally play in it!
Wait, you said little league? Not little persons?
Never mind.
“I’d still argue that the lack of consistent work could very well be a big reason why they haven’t been as effective as they should be.”
I agree. One could also say that is why they are showing some signs of life lately, especially Park. Park pitched 83.1 and 95.1 innings the last 2 years. He’s at 29 this year. He is doing better lately, maybe he just needed to get some innings under his belt.
# mick July 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
a muppet died?
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What awful rumors are you trying to spread mick???
lol Nick.
Great news!! They will add a HOLLYWOOD SHORTIES game for charity prior to the game. Look for Elf to be wearing number 2/3.
Count me in on the “give the bullpen more innings and they will step up” bandwagon.
Chan Ho Parks deep fly ball outs scare the crap out of me. Thank god our home games arent at THE PISS BOX.
I’m an old time Yankees fan (since 1952) so grew up listening to Bob Shepard as the PA announcer but see absolutely nothing wrong with the players not attending the funeral. For all we know (and Mary Shepard isn’t talking) the family asked not to have any public figures at the services and knew that she would be seeing all of them on Old Timers Day.
I didn’t see the Old Timers Day ceremony but it seemed like the Yankees, on both Friday and Saturday, honored the memory of Mr. Shepard in a most respectful way. There is just no reason to keep talking about this, period.
Forget Sanchez. His last game, he pitched a scoreless inning, loaded the bases on a hit and two walks and threw 33 pitches in the inning. He does that too often. That’s a Bruney inning. He’s too erratic……too wild.
Chan Ho Parks deep fly ball outs scare the crap out of me. Thank god our home games arent at THE PISS BOX.
S.o.S.-
Could say the same about Bad Joba or Bad AJ, or Gaudin.
The fans on PeteAbe’s thread said they wouldn’t even stay up tonight to watch the sox lose with Dice-k or Timmy on the mound. Pete’s doing the rah rah to keep their hopes up.
Red Sox need to play .700 ball the rest of the way to win 100 this year, the Yanks just .592.
7 games in the loss column with 71 or so games left to play is a pretty big deal, particularly if the team in front hasn’t experienced a prolonged slump all season.
But let’s go a step further and say the Sox play .600 ball the next 27 games (20 of them on the road) for a 16-11 mark.
That would put them 68-51. They’d have to finish 32-9 to get to 100, a .780 winning %.
Heck, let’s REALLY have some fun.
Yanks play the rest of the season .500. They finish with 94 wins.
Red Sox just to tie them would have to finish 42-32, a .568 winning %, which is actually BETTER than they’ve played thus far.
I know baseball is tantalizing because a small winning streak matched with a small losing streak can shave off a few games in a hurry, but if you look from the MACRO view, consider the likelihood of how a team will perform in the long haul, the numbers for the Red Sox are pretty daunting.
“…maybe he just needed to get some innings under his belt.”
His issue has been keeping things under his belt.
“Chan Ho Park… the crap out of…”
Different straight line, same basic joke.
Nick-
I was just curious. When you sent CB that notification did he ever respond back ?
94 wins won’t cut it.
They need 96 minimum.
Doreen
I’m I’m with you. This team has found ways to step up when the game was on the line. The bullpen did the Yankees proud yesterday, as well as the bats. They came through for Andy.
If the yankees play .870 ball the rest of the way they will win 120 games.
No, I have not received a reply from CB, but I only contacted him a few hours ago.
I also don’t know how frequently he checks the address I have for him — perhaps almost never.
have you read Pete, lately?
He went from being a reporter to Theo’s P.R. representative.
He actually posted this grossly unprofessional comment:
“It’s criminal how negative and inane so many fans are in this era given all this team has accomplished under Epstein and Francona and how hard the team plays and how well they represent the game.”
Yes, Pete. Papi, Tek, Beckett, Papelbom, and Laptops represent so well.
I swear, Pete must be wearing a Red Sox uniform in the press box.
What awful rumors are you trying to spread mick???
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Just kidding. A Muppet can never die, I know that.
Could say the same about Bad Joba or Bad AJ, or Gaudin
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Noted.
Time to go with a 3 man rotation and 2 inning closes by THE BEST all the way till November.
Who needs inning limits…
Nick-
Thanks again for doing that.
Also, I hope you are ready to eat another burger tomorrow night.
So now the RANGERS are, again, interested in the same player we’re intersted in? (Scott Downs)
Thank you everyone who keeps SUING the Texas Rangers as sooner or later, MLB just won’t allow them to acquire anyone else
BUT! My opinion is that the Yankees should trade for Wes Helms and Leo Nunez. fixes 2/3 of our problems. Then somehow we trade for my buddy Brett Myers for the 5th starter until Andy gets back then heads to the bullpen. we are ALL SET!
wes helms???? THE wes helms? Did you misspell Cody Ross?
I swear, Pete must be wearing a Red Sox uniform in the press box.
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And there lies the reason for the hatred of the guy in here.
Really, how does a Red Sox fan get to be a Yank beat reporter and run a Yankee blog?
Talk about a conflict of interests.
Pete wants bloggers. He thinks he can when them over with sugary sap talk. He is all in , being at home now.
“Time to go with a 3 man rotation and 2 inning closes by THE BEST all the way till November.”
LOL.
With Cliff Lee that might have been possible!!!
If the yankees play .870 ball the rest of the way they will win 120 games.
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Can someone tell me what % they will have to play to get to 117? I have all the confidence in the world that the 3 men will get us over the hump.
Nick,
That email address reminds me of getting a girls number and realizing it has only 6 digits in it. Check your reject mail!!
Yes, I am ready and eager to to return to In-N-Out tomorrow night.
I have fallen far behind in updating my photos, but I have picture evidence of visits for wins #9 and #10 plus a single burger visit to honor his ASG appearance. No Double-Double for losers.
I also have a photo of a pizza visit to honor ‘Cisco for his hit and RBI the night of the first game at Oakland, as promised, and I owe Javy a visit to get Puerto Rican food for his fine performance.
“94 wins won’t cut it.
They need 96 minimum.”
Sox, Detroit or Minniesota, or the Angels would have to play some REALLY outstanding ball to get to 94 wins.
But just to play along.
To get to 96-66, Yanks need to go 38-33 or .535.
Who’s willing to suggest they might not to that?
mick
Chad is a Cardinal fan running a Yankees blog too, it happens.
Nick in SF July 19th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I also have a photo of a pizza visit to honor ‘Cisco for his hit and RBI the night of the first game at Oakland, as promised
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That’s good you’re keeping up with your PFOF duties.
I think Pete was wearing that ORTIZ uniforms that was found in the new Yankee Stadium dirt. The curse was lifted once Pete left and handed right back to the well deserved ones.
Nick-
You and Pat add calories. I am a rebel. I subtract them. Hope you like the photos I post for Phil. It takes work to get them.
stuckey, have you considered that certain people might need the Yankees to win more than 95.5 wins for reasons other than finishing ahead of other teams?
This just in: Pete Abe says the Titanic is unsinkable.
“stuckey, have you considered that certain people might need the Yankees to win more than 95.5 wins for reasons other than finishing ahead of other teams?”
I, in fact, have not.
A Vegas wager you mean?
With Cliff Lee that might have been possible!!
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What we waiting for!! Time to buy the Rangers to replace the Pirates as our farm team.
Have a good day fellas!!
Sort of like a Vegas wager, yes.
“Sort of like a Vegas wager, yes.”
Ah, corruptible youth….
The rays are the 98 yankees so we need like 140 wins to beat them.
Chad is a Cardinal fan running a Yankees blog too, it happens.
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Are you saying a Cardinal fan is the same as a RS fan?
Different breeds, I would guess.
“Ah, corruptible youth….”
Tell that to Pat M.
Not to mention Chad lacks Petes undesirable character traits which did not mix well with his other traits: fat, red sox fan, yankee beat writer
The only 100% lockdown reliever is Mariano. Everybody else has warts. And you don’t ever know for sure how they will translate to NYY. Look at Eric Gagne going to the Red Sox. Who would have predicted that disaster?
Plus, Cash isn’t going to appear desperate. I trust in Cash.
On another note….
Bret, thanks for the hint about checking email.
Pete Abe…”you could’ve been somebody, you could’ve been a contendah!” Instead you poke away at your mac laptop, hoping new fans come to your blog after providing them with the tounge colonics.
For those of you interested in the Minors.
Stoneburner will be pitching tonite for Tampa.
Yankees might be more likely to stick with Joba Chamberlain — trusting that his old dominance is still in there somewhere …… ………………..
what am I missing here…
BryanHoch After nearly making #Yankees in spring, Jon Weber – now retired – hit for 100 game suspension by MLB, 3rd positive test for a drug of abuse.
And if you have nothing better to do.
U-Jim is pitching for the Rockies against Sanchez of the Marlins.
2 pitchers who both have no-hitters to their credit.
# Rishi July 19th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
BryanHoch After nearly making #Yankees in spring, Jon Weber – now retired – hit for 100 game suspension by MLB, 3rd positive test for a drug of abuse.
LOL
Tim McCarver calls the Yankees “Nazis and Stalinsts”.
http://deadspin.com/5589770/ti.....pagandists
No, really. He really said that. Old fool.
BryanHoch After nearly making #Yankees in spring, Jon Weber – now retired – hit for 100 game suspension by MLB, 3rd positive test for a drug of abuse.
Very sad.
Forgot to update my email provided on here even though the stupid school closed my account without notifying me.
Now I will never know if I ever received the super duper special email
new post
Sticking with Joba means yet another first-round exit, if we even make the playoffs. He is useless.
Chad, you may want to check Downs “significant” split stats??? he is actually better against righties this year than lefties and over the previous 3 seasons his OPS is just slightly better against lefties.