Game 92: Yankees vs. Angels
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jul 20, 2010 
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YANKEES (58-33)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Ganderson CF
Juan Miranda DH
Brett Gardner LF
RHP Phil Hughes (11-2, 3.65)
Hughes vs. Angels
ANGELS (50-45)
Erick Aybar SS
Howie Kendrick 2B
Bobby Abreu RF
Torii Hunter CF
Hideki Matsui DH
Mike Napoli 1B
Juan Rivera LF
Maicer Izturis 3B
Jeff Mathis C
RHP Sean O’Sullivan (0-0, 1.29)
Has never faced any of the Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m. / MY9
UMPIRES: HP Bruce Dreckman, 1B Paul Emmel, 2B Bill Hohn, 3B Gary Darling
WEATHER: It’s actually kind of hot. Temperatures in the 80s. Did it feel like this through the weekend? Just feels a little warmer than I remember.
SMALL SAMPLE SIZE: None of the Angels has more than six career at-bats against Phil Hughes, but there’s also not a single Angels batter with more than one hit against him. Howie Kendrick has been the worst at 1-for-6. Hideki Matsui and Maicer Izturis are each 1-for-1.
THE STREAK CONTINUES: Mark Teixeira’s on-base streak has reached 35 games dating back to June 6. It is tied for the second-longest streak of his career, and one shy of his career-high.
FROM THE BEGINNING: The Yankees are 19-11 in series openers this season, including 11-4 in series openers at home.
UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: Imagine how well Robinson Cano would be hitting if he had been allowed to do the Home Run Derby. Nick Swisher’s 17th homer has given the Yankees an early 1-0 lead in the first inning.
UPDATE, 7:33 p.m.: Posada grounds to second, drives in Teixeira and pushes the Yankees lead to 2-0.
UPDATE, 7:40 p.m.: Torii Hunter seems to have left his mind in California.
UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: A run in the second and now another run here in the third, the Yankees lead is gone. We’re tied at 2.
UPDATE, 8:09 p.m.: Hughes gets out of the inning with a double play — not the best night for Matsui so far — and between innings, the Yankees scoreboard showed Steve Martin sitting behind home plate. Instead of labeling him as Steve Martin, the scoreboard showed his name as Navin Johnson. Hilarious.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: Sorry for the time between updates. I’ve been wrapping up newspaper stuff and trying to work on some behind-the-scenes registration stuff. Anyway… Hughes coughed up the lead with a two-run home run in the fourth, and now he’s allowed another two-run shot in the sixth. Here comes Albaladejo. Hughes didn’t get an out in the sixth. It’s 6-2 Angels.
UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: After a single, Albaladejo got through three in a row on a strike out, line out and ground out back to the mound. Still 6-2 heading into the bottom of the sixth.
UPDATE, 9:28 p.m.: Matsui just Chan Ho Parked one into right field, a two-run shot for an 8-2 Angels lead.
UPDATE, 9:45 p.m.: Posada took second on an E-2 — illegal use of equipment because he swatted the ball with his mask — and Juan Miranda followed with a two-out single to put runners at the corners for Brett Gardner. Best scoring opportunity the Yankees have had since the first inning.
UPDATE, 10:08 p.m.: Ugly game all around for the Yankees. Hughes was bad, Park gave up another home run and the offense has been shutdown since the first inning. Chad Gaudin is now in for the top of the ninth, still an 8-2 Angels lead.
UPDATE, 10:23 p.m.: Two-run single off Gaudin has pushed this to a 10-2 game.
Oh-Oh: the Yanks have never faced O’Sullivan.
The dawning of a new era on LoHud.
Tonight’s win should be double-double as nice.
I’m craving a double-double with cheese and cooked onions…..Come on Young Master Hughes…….
Matsui’s numbers have definitely dropped off. Anybody know if he still occassionally plays the outfield like he wanted to before the season or are his knees too bad now?
I liked the NJ signing at the time by Cashman and I’m sad it hasn’t worked out to this point. Just think if the Yanks made a run at Vlad in the offseason though. The guys legs look in as good of a shape as they have been in like 5 years. Don’t know if he wanted to play in NYC though…
C’mon Yankees you can win this one!
Go, Yankees! (This was my test to see if the registration worked.)
How many days/weeks of rest has Hughes had?
This does not look good at all, combined with the fact that we have never faced O’Sullivan.
Enjoy the game folks.
Phil. My tribute awaits your 12th victory.
Girardi wasn’t exactly bubbling over with enthusiasm for Chamberlain. It remains to be seen how he gets used in the coming days.
Random fact of the night:
Alby is now the 38th different player to be added to the Yankee roster this season
Go Yanks!
I have to say, I had some issue registering from my blackberry, but it’s working now. Looking forward to one of the premier teams in the league over the last few years, the Angels coming to town.
Testing…123.
“The Yankees are 31-25 vs teams over .500?
I tend to latch onto ideas I hear and this one has stuck out at me in the previous thread.
As for context, this was presented to me as evidence the Yankees in fact have weaknesses they need to address during the postseason – that being 31-25 is a sign they might not fair well in the play-offs against the league’s best teams.
So let’s look at that.
As presented previously, 31-25 is a .554 wining %.
6 teams in ML baseball are playing better than .554 overall right now.
.554 gets you the division lead in the AL Central.
It puts you in the Wildcard lead in the NL, and 1.5 games behind Boston in the AL.
They don’t play AS well compared to sub-.500 teams, but that’s they way it’s suppose to be.
Play well at home and beat up on the bad teams. Hold your own on the road and against the .500 teams.
Time-tested formula. They do the former and more than enough of the latter.
If there are any perceptions the Yanks don’t play “well” against .500 or better teams, can it end tonight please?
No more Buddy Biancalana, I’ve been punked!
Troll free city, for now. I love it already.
Alby deserves with, he’s earned it at AAA.
Funny, I had the same thought about Milledge last year, but he quickly showed why Cash is the GM and not me. Still, sometimes guys pick up their game. Given all the good things I?ve read about Billy Eppler and the scouting dept., I?d think they?ve checked him out. Maybe he is an option. We only know a tiny fraction of what goes on in the Yanks? talent evaluations?.
Say it ain’t so!
Buddy — the real Buddy — I will happily go to the mattresses for you if Chad won’t give you back your name.
Testing posting from my phone.
Last nine games: Hughes gave up 34 earned runs in 55 innings — 5.6 ERA.
The Stadium looks so dark
MLB network carrying the yankee feed
For those not watching MLB-TV before the game, they had about 3 minutes of Mariano Rivera out in the outfield with Chamberlain, teaching him motion and mechanics, everything from balance to leg lift to arm position and follow-through. If Chamberlain can’t learn something from Rivera, he never will.
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They must have really sat down with the video tape on Chamberlain, catching every single flaw. I’d say it’s about time, but who knows what they tried in the interim.
stuckey,
How does 31-25 vs plus .500 teams stack up against other playoff teams?
I and I would venture many other don’t really care how the Yankees stack up vs the rest of MLB for any of these statistics.
At this point, people are generally thinking ahead to the postseason in terms of improving this team.
All that matter is how we stack up against our “real” competition. Pitching, offense, record, etc.
Is this a My9 Thing or a Phil Huges thing or is the pitch counter gone?
Is this a My9 Thing or a Phil Huges thing or is the pitch counter gone?
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It shows up at 10 pitches
*Hughes!
Doh!
I hope Hughes doesn’t stiffen up. That looked like it hit him pretty well.
Test…. Again!
Jerkface July 20th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
It shows up at 10 pitches
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So it does.
Jerkface is correct!
Hughes lost the strike zone. Or he’s afraid to pitch to Bobby.
Does anyone else enjoy O’Neill game broadcasts more than regular ones?
Were Joba’s eyes open at the time?
Asd July 20th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Does anyone else enjoy O’Neill game broadcasts more than regular ones?
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Me!!!!! He makes me laugh
Yogi on the DL with a fractured foot.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....pital.html
I hate it when there are My9 games. MLB Extra Innings has the frakin’ LAA feed. MLB Network has the TEX/DET game. I’m royally screwed.
Doreen July 20th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
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They must have really sat down with the video tape on Chamberlain, catching every single flaw. I’d say it’s about time, but who knows what they tried in the interim.
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Just watching what was taking place, it looked like Dr. Mariano Einstein was doing the talking, instruction and correction and Moose (from the Archie comix) was listening, watching and asking questions. Couldn’t tell if Mo was tearing his hair out or not.
It must be in Jeter’s contract that he has to swing at the first pitch.
Jeter is still pressing…
My dear god, I don’t care if I sound gay. I love Nick Swisher.
Whoooo!!! Swish is on fire lately!
I have no idea what has gotten into Nick Swisher, but I sure like it!
YES! SWISH! Nothin’ but net. lol.
The HR Derby HELPS your swing.
My theory just keeps getting stronger
Swisher has become a monster.
Swish – man…loving it
Man. Swisher has down a Don Mattingly swing right now.
# Erica in NY July 20th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I have no idea what has gotten into Nick Swisher, but I sure like it!
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Hopefully nothing like what has gotten into the Blue Jays players. Or Ortiz.
Let’s pounce on this guy early and often.
SWISHER BABY!
what a season for him
OH-IO Gotta love that Nickie!!!!!!
Good surprise to see the Yanks on MLBN. Might have to cancel my plans now!
Btw…A-Rod is hitting 600 tonight. Or Friday against the Royals.
“Man. Swisher has down a Don Mattingly swing right now.”
That’s it!!! I couldn’t think of what his swing reminded me of. Now I remember. He’s swinging like Donnie Baseball.
Wow, looks like changing my username to this from what it was before was a good idea!
I don’t think so Yogi, as he’s displaying the same power he’s had his entire career, now he just swings better. He never was a small guy (minus stature, of course) but he never swung well either.
Jeter squared that one up, he does look a little better. Can’t hit it a lot harder than that (unless you’re Swisher). It’s early, but I get the sense that we’re gona score some runs tonight.
GREAT JOB AROD, SWISHER, LETS GO CANO
sorry for caps
What team is this? Hitting against someone they’ve never faced?! Unheard of!
Good heads up running by Arod…Cano can deliver a big 2 run hit here.
Does the standard center field camera angle seem different to anyone else? A little lower or flatter or something?
“Good surprise to see the Yanks on MLBN.”
I guess because I’m in Chicago, they assumed that I’d be interested in the DET game. They were wrong.
Jeter squared that one up, he does look a little better. Can’t hit it a lot harder than that (unless you’re Swisher). It’s early, but I get the sense that we’re gona score some runs tonight.
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Maybe he would have more success on balls in play if he hit some line drives and hard fly balls (fliners!)
Anyone see ARod’s face when he looks up to check the ump about getting time and he isn’t looking. Hilarious.
walking cano, lets go posada
I wonder if Posada is starting to get annoyed that they IBB Cano to get to him.
Come on Jorge, their showing you no respect
This guy does not have the stuff go deep into this game. Yank’s should really bruise him up.
swilson31 July 20th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
What team is this? Hitting against someone they’ve never faced?! Unheard of!
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Ha! was going to say something like “Uh oh, someone they’ve never faced before” but got interrupted by Swish’s home run.
How in god’s name was Posada fast enough to beat that out?
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
“Man. Swisher has down a Don Mattingly swing right now.”
That’s it!!! I couldn’t think of what his swing reminded me of. Now I remember. He’s swinging like Donnie Baseball.
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Not the Mattingly stance, but, from the left side, nothing but high, screaming line drives.
got the run in, posada swung a bad pitch
Just look at the at bats this inning and compare them to the one Jeter had.
I’m not one who has been whatsoever on the “Jeter is declining” train but I can’t help but think that his approach is starting to get a bit ridiculous, particularly for a leadoff hitter who happens to be in a monthlong slump.
Granderson….grrr.
I would have liked a few more runs that inning, but I’ll take what we got.
nj stache is gone
nj stache is gone…
It’s hard to complain about Jeter’s hit. The results weren’t there, but that bullet almost drug Aybar into left center field.
Coaching staff hoping next year Granderson will have the same kind of impact Swisher has now in his second year under Long’s tutelage. Sure hope so. That AB was just awful.
Anytime you feel like contributing offensively, Curtis…
“nj stache is gone”
Let me know when NJ is gone.
Yeah Hideki. Now hit into a DP
Do the fans at the stadium know that Matsui isn’t a Yankee anymore? LOL!
oneill: hidecki speaks perfect english
singleton: it’s not like he’s gonna recite the gettysburg address.
Is anyone else having trouble with mlb.tv?
wow!
where are all the bridgejumpers?
nice rock by hunter
Hunter is still on his All Star break.
Nice call, pat… in a weird way.
Thank you Hunter.. That was quite a blunder.. I’ll take it though.
What a rock by Hunter and a double deke by Jeter and Granderson.
Not a traditional DP but Works for me
Eric, me too on MLB.TV
Dumb question, what was the official scoring decision on the Matsui/Hunter double up? Pop up into a double play, or something different?
Hunter has gotten owned twice now in the past week. By Rolen in the ASG and by Jeter there.
Yeah, I don’t miss Kendry Morales, but Mike Napoli ALWAYS hits well against the Yanks.
it was “popped into a double play”
Hughes not too sharp so far.
hunter is overrated.
Tough inning for Hughes. 3 bullets and a fortuitous DP.
Thanks Rishi! I saw the play but was being spoken too and missed what Kay said.
Good job Phil… 3 straight hard hit singles
Montero with a 1st inning home run
Hughes falling off the cliff now?
if hunter keeps it up, he will be in the pen for sure come playoffs…not that it’s a bad thing
i mean really – the last out already…what is going on with Hughes – feels like this happens a lot
game thread tonight >>>>> game thread any other game!
I’ve forgotten how much I dislike the Angels. These guys bug the living ends out of me.
They are sitting fastball and then Hughes just threw a hanging curve. He needs to give batters something else to think about besides his fastball.
no problems with mlb.tv here
yanks score 9 runs a game for hughes
GB, Hughes looks too perpendicular, and it appears that he’s not fully extending and finishing his pitches….
Sorry…Montero with a 2nd inning homer….1st at bat
Phil not getting any swings and misses.
Yanks’ record on My9 is around .500, at best.
“yanks score 9 runs a game for hughes”
If Hughes doesn’t find his command, they’ll have to.
maybe hughes is the kind of pitcher that works better with a slightly tired arm. too much rest?
He’s out of it, only giving up one.
“Yanks’ record on My9 is around .500, at best.”
The guys behind My9 are Mets fans.
Let’s go Hughes!!!!
Pat M., there still appears to be not late snap on the curves or fastball. The stuff is there, just not the finish. Wonder what he’s changed, ever so slightly? Maybe as you say…standing up too straight.
I’ve never really liked Hunter. He seems to get tons of lovin’ from the various media pundits, but I don’t think hes one of the better baseball smart players out there. I guess its more to do with him being quite polished – speaking wise. That and he’s not a Yankee.
“yanks score 9 runs a game for hughes”
“If Hughes doesn’t find his command, they’ll have to.”
…..that’s why his 11-2 record is misleading.. Javy has pitched better than anybody on the current staff besides CC
Yay! Out of the inning! Boo! More due to base running/plate mistakes than pitching strength.
Piniella announcing his end of season retirement plans today was like Ellen coming out of the closet. It surprised no one.
kay loves his “fallacy of the predetermined outcome”
this team truly needs a DH with power and a resume!
Montero has been on fire since the beginning of June (going on for about 2 months now). His OPS for this time is over 1000.
I guess he is adjusting.
Miranda cannot hit.
Another question, I was on vacation last week. When was Miranda called up for who?
Back-to-back-to-back home runs for the O’s against Matt Garza…
Scott, Wigginton and Jones homer back, to back, to back against Matt Garza
Actually, Paul, it’s been in the 50′s at night and the 60′s during the day in San Francisco.
# Yogi Mantle July 20th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
I’ve never really liked Hunter. He seems to get tons of lovin’ from the various media pundits, but I don’t think hes one of the better baseball smart players out there. I guess its more to do with him being quite polished – speaking wise. That and he’s not a Yankee.
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He’s also just a good guy. Does a lot for the community. I agree though, not the smartest player out there.
is sf part of the country?
# Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
“Yanks’ record on My9 is around .500, at best.”
The guys behind My9 are Mets fans.
that’s about right
“this team truly needs a DH with power and a resume!”
They had one. They let him get away.
The Angeles pitcher has some sort of metal chain thing for a necklace. I’m assuming he’s going directly to some S&M event after the game.
no problem here with mlbtv
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Piniella announcing his end of season retirement plans today was like Ellen coming out of the closet. It surprised no one.
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The Cubs are an absolute mess. Zambrano is still owed a ton of money as is Soriano. Really only bright spots have been Byrd, Colvin, Dempster, and Castro. Silvas’ last 2 starts have been atrocious so he’s coming back to earth. I don’t know a whole lot about their farm system but that team doesn’t look close to competing for a championship even in a weak NL central
Anyone know the name of the song played when Jeter comes up to bat?
I’m glad that Montero is still a Yankee cause this team is gonna need a power bat to replace Arod and the other aging guys… Hopefully Crawford and Montero will be team mates soon!
very pitiful inning for NY
pat July 20th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Scott, Wigginton and Jones homer back, to back, to back against Matt Garza
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My dad just called me to tell me he had Wigginton on his team all season and dropped him last night. So he hit a homerun in his first AB just to spite him.
And in other sad news, I have Garza on my team!
“Scott, Wigginton and Jones homer back, to back, to back against Matt Garza”
Garza runs hot or cold. He’s either lights out or completely hittable.
Jeter is cheating
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
“this team truly needs a DH with power and a resume!”
They had one. They let him get away.
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Are you thinking of Johnny Damon???
That made me think of Johnny Damon. LOL
# Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
“this team truly needs a DH with power and a resume!”
They had one. They let him get away.
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Get Soriano back!
They had one. They let him get away.
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To quote Singleton not fifteen minutes ago “And Matsui is having a sub-par year”
O’ Sullivan is really pulling out the Edwar Ramirez tonight.
“Anyone know the name of the song played when Jeter comes up to bat?”
Don’t know the name of the band, but the song is called “Automatic Out”.
“They had one. They let him get away.”
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Hideki has a .392 SLG% right now. His numbers are terrible this year especially his power numbers.
By contrast, Gardner has a .408 SLG%
Matsui is also hitting .183 vs LHP this year. Him and Granderson in the same lineup would have been a disaster.
Matsui is not a good fit for this team at all. He would just further compound their weaknesses offensively.
“The Cubs are an absolute mess. Zambrano is still owed a ton of money as is Soriano.”
Which is why when Lou goes, Hendry should go as well. He’s the idiot that signed those two, not to mention Milton Bradley (who they were very fortunate to get rid of).
Hit Girl July 20th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
“Anyone know the name of the song played when Jeter comes up to bat?”
Don’t know the name of the band, but the song is called “Automatic Out”.
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And I thought registration would help put an end to this….
Hughes is brutal
“Anyone know the name of the song played when Jeter comes up to bat?”
Don’t know the name of the band, but the song is called “Automatic Out”.
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The band is “The Free Swingers”
Not sure what happened to Crawford, but, he got picked off of first base and left the game.
Too many pitches in the middle of the plate. Not good.
“Hideki has a .392 SLG% right now. His numbers are terrible this year especially his power numbers.”
My position has been and will always be that he’d be having a better season if he were in our lineup. Of course, I can’t prove that, but it’s what I believe 100%.
Phil is gonna give it up.. Phil is not long for this game if he keeps throwing down the middle of the plate
Hughes throwing batting practice
Troll Poll
Does anyone miss the trolls?
Here in FL we got the game on MLB Network (by My9)
Broadcasters: Kay, O’neil, Singleton
Usually I am stuck listening to the other teams broadcasters, this is much more enjoyable!
spoke too soon: mlbtv off
Phil’s command is not good tonight
Super glad the announcers aren’t paying attention to the game
# SJ44 July 20th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Too many pitches in the middle of the plate. Not good.
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What’s not good is an imposter like you.
Looks like Hit Dog is back on the board.
“Are you thinking of Johnny Damon???
That made me think of Johnny Damon. LOL”
Yeah, him too! LOL!
Alright, I’m registered! Here’s hoping I get a ball (even the Marcus Thames one).
all his pitches are up in the zone.. no sinking action whatsoever
Speaking of feeds, does anyone else have a very dark picture on My9? I feel like the picture could be more vibrant, and I’m on a HDTV.
That pitch looked like a strike
mlbtv still working fine for me. Bay Area!
Phlop
“Not sure what happened to Crawford, but, he got picked off of first base and left the game.”
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He got hit in the nads on a pickoff throw.
Wow, Hughes, did you seriously have to walk Kendirx?
Yeah, my TV’s picture definitely isn’t as good as YES
I wonder if Hughes is going threw a dead arm period….
Phil will have 100 pitches by the 5th inning at this pace
“He got hit in the nads on a pickoff throw.”
Is that true? Here’s hoping that he’s not from the Adrian Beltre school of baseball. LOL!
What team is in first place, Hit Pig?
“Anyone know the name of the song played when Jeter comes up to bat?”
Candy
Not an imposter Mick. Ask Chad if you don’t believe it.
Has anyone from the media asked Girardi if he’s interested in the Cubs position? I’d like to hear his answer. I’m in the mood for a good laugh.
Unreal. Registration and that Hit Girl b i t c h still shows up. I’m out of here.
“My position has been and will always be that he’d be having a better season if he were in our lineup. Of course, I can’t prove that, but it’s what I believe 100%.”
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You could say maybe he would have hit a few more HRs with the short porch, but believing being with the Yankees would make him better against LHP makes me very skeptical of that position.
He has been worse than Granderson this year vs LHP.
Hughes just isn’t blowing that fastball by hitters like he did those first 6 starts. They are catching up to it so he has had to go to more breaking balls and he just isn’t consistant enough with that pitch yet. It definitely has plus potential though…
Infield fly rule? Thats one rule I never quite did understand.
# SJ44 July 20th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Not an imposter Mick. Ask Chad if you don’t believe it.
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I thought you were away.
If the real deal didn’t register you stole his name.
Whatever, let the powers that be handle it.
I have retired.
Unreal. Registration and that Hit Girl shows up here.
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Why would registration prevent bad posters from showing up?
LAA announcers are complaining about Posada visiting the mound. This is why I have to move back to the NY Tri-State area.
I do know you love Matsui though Laura
Very small strike zone tonight
Infield fly rule? Thats one rule I never quite did understand.
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it prevents if’s from dropping the ball and getting easy dps or triple plays
mick, you still can’t give it a rest?????
Using the 6.1 innings per start guideline, that would bring Hughes to 158 innings heading into September. That’s just 22 innings below the arbitrary 180-inning ceiling they mentioned earlier in the season, so maybe that’s four more starts. He clearly wouldn’t make it through September at that pace, so the Yankees have to hope they have enough of a cushion to skip Hughes a few times in September. Even so, given the tough schedule I can’t see them skipping him more than once. Chances are that if the Yankees don’t have a comfortable lead in the East by mid-September, Hughes could actually hit the 200-inning mark.
Does this affect the Yanks’ strategy in acquiring a starter at the deadline? I think it most certainly does. The easiest transition for Hughes is to move right to the bullpen for September and the playoffs. Skipping his starts might help in the long-term, but the Yankees haven’t realized any short-term success when implementing that tactic. By adding a starter the Yankees can not only replace Pettitte’s production and give him more time to recover, but they can more easily handle Hughes’s workload. It’s not an ideal situation, but it’s one the Yankees seemingly feel necessary for the long-term health of their rotation.
UNREAL!… Phil getting knocked around now.. Let’s see what Alby has tonight
“Why would registration prevent bad posters from showing up?”
It won’t, but it should curb the impostors.
another easy-to-hit rolling breaking ball
Looks like Phill is in for a rough night.
That wasn’t the worst pitch from hughes, Hunter just went and got it.
Thanks Hideki !
Thanks, Mat.
Thank goodness for Gozilla
Phil got painfully squeezed that inning.
Good job bearing down and limiting it to 1 run. If he can give us an old fashioned 6 inning 3 earned run quality start he’ll get a win tonight.
good play by hughes
this stretch w/o Andy is crucial.
if hughes continues like this, we better hope cc aj and javy give length or the pen will be burnt.
“I do know you love Matsui though Laura”
I do. I miss him. I miss Damon too (just in case Erica is “listening”).
on the Angels radar gun, Hughes is topping out at 93 mph
“another easy-to-hit rolling breaking ball”
That wasn’t hit hard and was really an example of being lucky with BABIP.
You are showing your ignorance.
And Scott homers off Garza again
Hideki continuing his great Yankee career here tonight
Infield fly rule? Thats one rule I never quite did understand.
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it prevents if’s from dropping the ball and getting easy dps or triple plays
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Isnt it also more geared towards helping out the offense than the defense? My uncle once gave me an hour long discussion on it, and I still dont get it. lol
It’s time for the Yanks to start reading O’Suillivan and score a bunch of runs.
mick, you still can’t give it a rest?????
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nick, where’s your sense of humor?
Phil needs to trust Jorge a little more and go with his lead on pitch selection…….It just appears to me that he’s not completing his pitches, not fully following through……..Could a smoke and mirrors outing tonight
I hope the Yankees don’t let O’Sullivan get into a rhythym now
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
“I do know you love Matsui though Laura”
I do. I miss him. I miss Damon too (just in case Erica is “listening”).
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Loud and clear.
I have been a little scattered tonight though. Two loads of laundry had to get done
Mick,
Jeff Marx and I tested this system. I was one of the first people to register WEEKS ago.
Email Jeff Marx and ask him and you can stop this nonsense.
ron,
If you are going to copy and paste someone else’s words please cite where you got it from.
At the very least please put quotes around the text so we know you did not write it.
Thanks.
4 dongs by Garza in that bandbox called Camden Yards
Isnt it also more geared towards helping out the offense than the defense?
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How could the offense benefit, it’s an automatic out.
The O’s giving the Yanks some help tonight. Up 4-1 in the 3rd. Still plenty of time but very unexpected. Seems like Garza is almost like the Rays AJ. When he’s good, he’s real good, when he’s bad look out.
Anyone ever hear if Juan Rivera and Derek Jeter speak to one another since the incident with Rivera taking things from Jeter’s locker?
“Anyone ever hear if Juan Rivera and Derek Jeter speak to one another since the incident with Rivera taking things from Jeter’s locker?”
It was Ruben Rivera…………
Jeff Marx and I tested this system. I was one of the first people to register WEEKS ago.
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WEEKS ago?
Today was the 1st day as far as we were told.
Rich – oops. You’re right.
This is waaaaaaaaaay too easy for this guy now. These are just terrible AB’s right now.
I kinda wish Kazmir was pitching. That being said what has happened to Hughes?? I’m not saying he was going to continue on with his April and May but he doesn’t even resemble that guy even a little
“Jeff Marx and I tested this system.”
Did you ask Jeff to make it so that Matt couldn’t register?
So do they exchange Xmas cards?
clar5 July 20th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Infield fly rule? Thats one rule I never quite did understand.
Isnt it also more geared towards helping out the offense than the defense? My uncle once gave me an hour long discussion on it, and I still dont get it. lol
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It does help the offense.
This is a world without the infield fly rule:
Someone hits a fly ball to Jeter. Instead of catching the ball for an out, Jeter “drops” the ball then he throws to second for the force on the runner and then on to first to complete a DP.
It basically protects the integrity of the game because even though he got two outs, Jeter should not have “dropped” the ball
Montero is 1-1 with a solo homer and a walk. The homer deep to right center field.
11 pitch inning
Registered weeks ago? I have proof that isn’t possible.
8 straight retired… you knew this was gonna happen to this team tonight… nobody comes in and shuts em down!
Not everything is funny.
“That being said what has happened to Hughes?? I’m not saying he was going to continue on with his April and May but he doesn’t even resemble that guy even a little”
Hughes has stunk up the joint for a while now, but has gotten huge run support, so his W/L totals are distorted. Low 90′s fastballs and rolling curveballs don’t get the job done.
SJ44 July 20th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Mick,
Jeff Marx and I tested this system. I was one of the first people to register WEEKS ago.
Email Jeff Marx and ask him and you can stop this nonsense.
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That would have been back around 25 June, I believe, SJ.
I was told by Jeff to keep it under wraps and I did.
This has been in the works for awhile.
Jerkface July 20th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Registered weeks ago? I have proof that isn’t possible.
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Cue the Law and Order “dum dum dum”
Jerkface,
No you don’t. Email Jeff and ask him.
# Jerkface July 20th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Registered weeks ago? I have proof that isn’t possible.
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Nick, why are you defending this guy?
Jerk, the nerve of this clown.
Did you register weeks ago? And only weeks ago?
LGY:
Sorry,usually do.
From rab.
“Hughes has stunk up the joint for a while now, but has gotten huge run support, so his W/L totals are distorted. Low 90’s fastballs and rolling curveballs don’t get the job done.”
..don’t forget he gave up 2 runs in the ASG…
I just don’t think the Angels are a good matchup for Hughes. They go first to third a lot, and he’s not a groundball pitcher which makes it tough to escape jams with DP’s. They also are tough to strike out and Hughes’ weakness is finishing off those 2 strike counts.
The Original Pat M -
I’m hoping I’m awake after the game – I have a question to ask you – too off topic for game thread.
Laura -
I miss Matsui, too. But not even for his production – just because he’s Hideki Matsui. He should have stayed a Yankee. But his agents were very smart and very protective of him and I’m glad for him for that.
Angels strike out 20% of the time, which is near the top of the league
And Grandy with the crappy, misplayed flyball…
HE IS A BUST
curtis is a disaster.. wow!
I believe you SJ44. We do similar kind of beta testing before releasing any major updates.
granderson should not be in cf.
i bench him
Good, Grandy, that’s what Hughes needs right now.
In Phils defense, he is getting squeezed on the low pitches… Granderson should’ve had that, but didn’t the read the ball well
Granderson is not a good judge of balls out there. He’s done that several times already this season.
It’s time to put Gardner in CF and Granderson in LF.
To not turn the game thread into nonsense, simply email Jeff Marx and ask him to verify what I’m saying.
That will put an end to the nonsense.
3 Yankees I wouldn’t leave a wink of sleep if they got traded for a bag of balls. Joba,Burnett and Granderson
He didn’t misplay it. The ground caused him to lose it.
Tough play.
If SJ44 registered weeks ago his name wouldn’t have been available during registration this week. Which it was.
clar5 July 20th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Infield fly rule? Thats one rule I never quite did understand.
Isnt it also more geared towards helping out the offense than the defense? My uncle once gave me an hour long discussion on it, and I still dont get it. lol
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It does help the offense.
This is a world without the infield fly rule:
Someone hits a fly ball to Jeter. Instead of catching the ball for an out, Jeter “drops” the ball then he throws to second for the force on the runner and then on to first to complete a DP.
It basically protects the integrity of the game because even though he got two outs, Jeter should not have “dropped” the ball
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It sounds so simple that way. I feel like its one of those rules thats more complex than it has to be.
Great job Grandy….Can’t give this team extra outs..
Let’s all calm down, please.
I got an email from Jeff too about testing out the new registration system.
It was around 3 weeks ago.
Last two at bats, Hughes has hit some corners…
Can we stop this i am special,flaunting because you registered first.
No need to bring it up.
“I miss Matsui, too. But not even for his production – just because he’s Hideki Matsui.”
He is a very classy, professional ballplayer. He’s a real Yankee (even though he’s not a Yankee). LOL!
Curtis is having a rough night
This SJ44 is a replicant.
Phil didn’t need that in CF. Nice easy inning would have been good.
ron,
Sorry if it was just a mistake. Someone used to do that a lot and I forgot what their screen name was. My bad.
“He didn’t misplay it. The ground caused him to lose it.
Tough play.”
……he did misplay it. Got a bad jump on the ball cause he stepped back at first.
Nick in SF July 20th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Let’s all calm down, please.
I got an email from Jeff too about testing out the new registration system.
It was around 3 weeks ago.
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I didn’t get it.
I do not feel special
crap
Ouch. That hurts
Someone in little league could hit a homerun in this ballpark to RF. Unreal….
hughes can’t throw the cutters to leftys in nys
Phil sucks.. get him out… Izturis of all people!…
“He didn’t misplay it. The ground caused him to lose it.
Tough play.”
Are you freakin’ kidding?
That was a can o’ corn and that idiot Granderson took a step back for whatever bizarre reason. The Angels announcers commented that Curtis did that a lot last season.
More great pitching from Phlop…
u gonna blame my9
This dude just got off the DL!
Stinky start by Hughes.
Again, not over the plate or hanging.
clar5 July 20th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
It sounds so simple that way. I feel like its one of those rules thats more complex than it has to be.
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I try to make the world a simpler place
Wow, just off the DL, and Izturis finds the short porch.
Hughes has got to stop finding the middle of the plate.
Face, When I met with SJ a few weeks ago he mentioned that there would be a change here regarding registration….He didn’t elaborate, and I didn’t ask further
How did that go out?
Yuck.
Hughes is awful. Seriously what is different then April and May???
Worst start of Phil’s career so far right now.
This is still a winnable game for him if he buckles down right now. I think he will.
Wow, Hughes has slipped badly these past few weeks.
Hughes pitch selection is atrociousness.
Wrong jerkface.
Jeff emailed me weeks ago and asked me to help him test the system and I did over a two day period.
When I asked Jeff the other day if I needed to register again, he said no I was all set.
Again, ask Jeff and he will verify what I’m saying.
Here we go again, with Hughes continuing to let himself get beaten with the cutter when the hitter has not proven he can catch up to the fastball yet tonight.
The location has not been great, but the pitch selection has been stupid to say the least. Why are you throwing Hunter a 1-1 curve? He loves the ball down, throw him a high fastball.
The rotation is starting to look a little shaky.. Am I right?
# Erica in NY July 20th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
It sounds so simple that way. I feel like its one of those rules thats more complex than it has to be.
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I try to make the world a simpler place
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lol! I need someone to do that for me every day! :p
Not loving the way Hughes is pitching tonight.
Yes Pat M, I’m sure that did happen, but SJ44 didn’t register weeks ago. That makes this SJ44 a replicant.
NYY Fan: more than a little shaky
Good thing Alba was brought up today. The bullpen has been used a lot recently and Phil will probably only last another inning or so.
Hughes and Joba. It’s just sad.
YankFanCA,
Its been going on longer then a few weeks
This is what Hughes is, folks. He had some good starts at the beginning of the season, but his velocity is down and he doesn’t get enough movement on his fastball to make up for it.
Mick, I need you to hunt down all the replicants, you might need to enter a dreamscape for this to work.
Geez, another rocky stat for YMH
SJ …I have the word it is you, sorry for the false allegations.
Jerkface, back off, he’s for real.
Wouldn’t it be something if Arod hits 599 to make it 4-3, someone gets a base hit to make it 4-4.
Then in the bottom of the 9th, Arod walks off with 600?
“This is what Hughes is, folks”
*sprays troll repellent”
This is what Hughes is, folks. He had some good starts at the beginning of the season, but his velocity is down
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Hughes velocity is the same as it always is. 92 avg, 94.5 max
If Hughes can get through 6 and keep it at 4, the Yanks will be ok. They will get to Sullivan again.
everything hit by the Angels is pretty hard. Rotation is definately shaky at this point.. Redsox getting Beckett back, DiceK actually pitching well.. Clay B. not too far out… Just Wakefield struggling right now.. We’ll see how this plays out, but things are starting to look interesting.. There’s still 3 teams in this division!
Hughes not very economical tonight either. 72 pitches through 4 is not good. Let’s hope the Yankee bats break out big now. This O’Sullivan is throwing a lot of changeups, seems that SHOULD come back and burn him big.
SJ, we can put an end to this stupidity right now. This is the E-mail that I got from Jeff on 25 June. Look familiar?
“We are getting ready to roll out a new registration system for LYHB. I asked
Chad for a list of users who would make good testers and you were one of
them. Would you like to help us out with testing? And please do not mention
this test in the comments.
Thanks,
Jeffrey Marx
Web Developer
The Journal News/Lohud.com
jmarx@lohud.com (phone number was included -914——–)”
Cano crushed that. I really dislike Tori Hunter. Great player but he has always bothered me.
This is insane. Hughes has given up 12 homeruns this year…ALL at Yankee Stadium! I definitely think the cutter has been a big issue…he needs to develop another pitch that he can get groundballs on.
SJ announced he would be out of town from 7/15-25 so I used that as a clue.
I am proud to announce I am officially off the case.
I resign.
“Hughes velocity is the same as it always is. 92 avg, 94.5 max”
He hasn’t gone above 93 on the Angels gun.
And another fruitless inning for the yankee offense.
Can we all go back to being happy now?
that was a laser home run to right field. need to get a few more off o sullivan and get to that bullpen
Jerkface, back off, he’s for real.
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No kidding. Of course he is real, LOHUD isn’t going to implement sweeping changes just to appease one guy and then not let him have his name.
But it was available for registration on opening day. Jeff Marx likely just deleted anyone who registered it and signed it up himself. Preferential treatment and all.
He hasn’t gone above 93 on the Angels gun.
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PitchFX and the YES gun both have him with a 94 max. Who cares about the angel gun, its 2 / 3 for his normal velocity
In my former life, and way too long ago, I was a programmer. We never went live with something before doing test runs with “dummy” files. (Not calling you a dummy SJ and Nick.) And as I recall, it was not fun.
Man, that ball should have dropped, but it cut to the left instead of to the right, which is what I thought it was going to do. Poor Robi.
Jerkface-
Are you admitting you tried to sign up as SJ44?
2 friggin hits off this loser thru almost 4 innings.. Pathetic team tonight!
“This is what Hughes is, folks”
*sprays troll repellent”
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Why is he a troll Rich?
Just another opinion.
Lots of them in here.
Erica,
I’ll be happy when I’m at the beach this weekend
Erica in NY July 20th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Can we all go back to being happy now?
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Where’s the fun in that?
That’s it GB.
On sure jerkface still won’t believe it though.
And to think I can’t be Pat M. anymore……
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Erica,
I’ll be happy when I’m at the beach this weekend
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That is when I am happiest!!!!!!
Sunday night, I had to literally force myself to leave there because it was after 9pm and I knew I had to face Monday sooner or later
Laura -
Hideki will ALWAYS be a Yankee no matter what team he plays for. (And he looks awful in that red uni
)
Another Granderson AB, another out. Rinse. Repeat.
The Yankees are really letting this guy off of the hook.
1-2-3
Wow, 11 in a row for O’Sullivan. This is pathetic bats, wake up!
Granderson’s swing looks much too long right now.
He looks pretty lost. Despite his numbers I thought he was having good at bats and swings for the better part of the year. Not right now.
The Original Pat M. July 20th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
And to think I can’t be Pat M. anymore……
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Did you contact Chad and Jeff about fixing that?
I can cheer you up too!
I just read that Stevie Nicks is working on a new album
does anyone think this year’s team is better (or even equal to) the 2009 club?
Grandy needs to get going here. I know he’s had a weird year with the injury but he’s key to this team. If he gets going that could be the key bat alot of people on here are talking about. He’s a 25 homer and steal type of guy when he’s going good.
Last ten games: Hughes gave up 38 earned runs in 59 innings — 5.8 ERA.
Pat M , why don’t you email Jeff? It doesn’t make sense that guys like Ray and company can get their names but you don’t get yours.
I’ve really seen enough of Granderson. Might be a great guy, but he’s been a real bust this year.
# Nick in SF July 20th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Not everything is funny.
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Coming from you that goes against the grain.
Erica in NY,
9 o’clock? Anybody still at the beach at that time?
Pat M, you should be able to use your old name.
It should be in the works already, in fact.
SJ, it won’t stop those two idiots from trying to keep the crap going, but, it will remove doubts from those not sure.
“Why is he a troll Rich?”
Because his/her posts are reflexively negative and counter factual.
Is Grandy is the key this team, we’re all in for some trouble.
“Granderson’s swing looks much too long right now.”
Obviously, not many here watched MLB Extra Innings in 09. Granderson was brutal last year, too. Couldn’t hit lefties, featured a long, lazy swing, and took brutally bad routes in CF. He’s not a good ballplayer, plain and simple.
A few weeks ago, four people were asked to test the blog for us. They were asked to keep it quiet until we got the system ready, and they did.
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Erica in NY,
9 o’clock? Anybody still at the beach at that time?
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Its a beach club. No one was really left by the water, but there was a decent amount of people hanging out by the cabana. It was too nice there to go home
Chad
Please give Pat M is user account.
Old friend Manny Ramirez was put on the 15-day disabled list…strained right calf.
Pittsburgh has a 9-0 lead after 1 inning against Milwaukee……now the lead is 10-7 after 2.5 innings.
I hope CR9 and Trisha were included in the tests, you know, for the ban feature.
Swisher made that look so easy, like he always does.
Question: Could Nady be coming back to the Bronx? Saw a rumor on Facebook about he might be on the move.
Outfield of Nady, Gardner, Swisher, and Granderson on the bench for a while?
Hit Girl July 20th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
does anyone think this year’s team is better (or even equal to) the 2009 club?
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They probably aren’t better but good thing they aren’t playing the 2009 Yankees. All they have to do is be better than 29 other teams this year.
But the 2009 Yankees didn’t look great for the first half of the year last year. Remember Cashman had to talk to them on at least 1 occassion. They came together late in the year and Cash made some solid moves (Hairston, Hinske, Gaudin). Remember the Yanks only had 3 reliable starters last year. Joba was hot for 3 starts after the allstar break but was trash after. And the bullpen wasn’t steady either with Veras, Edwar, last year’s Alby…. Hopefully this years version comes together as well as last years.
what are AJax’s #s through the first half?
Jerkface-
You are not behaving very well tonight.
Quit living up to your name
Erica in NY,
Sounds nice and fancy
Chad Jennings July 20th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
A few weeks ago, four people were asked to test the blog for us. They were asked to keep it quiet until we got the system ready, and they did.
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I don’t believe it. How does Chad Jennings know what is going on in the LoHud site?
So to this point, it seems registration has merely led to a p*ssing contest about……registration?
I like it, ‘cept for losing the “y” off my name.
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Erica in NY,
Sounds nice and fancy
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Its not fancy I swear!!!! Its actually very mellow
Sweet throw.
Nice throw, Jorge! Out by a mile.
I kept the testing so quiet that I never did any actual testing.
Unless I was doing it in my sleep? I guess that’s possible.
I was away from the blog for awhile so I’ve lost track of the whole CR9 situation. Why is he not liked anymore? I don’t remember him being a bad guy. He was gay and believed that all Umps were against the Yankees, but other than that, I found him to be harmless. What happened?
“Unless I was doing it in my sleep? I guess that’s possible.”
I thought you never slept, Nick!
Nice job Jo Po. That helped save Hughes a few pitches.
tampayank July 20th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
what are AJax’s #s through the first half?
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He’s at like .300 with 1 homer and 16 RBI. He only has like a 700 OPS. He’s slowed down much as many predicted on this blog.
Laura-
You don’t want to know
What happened?
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Hunted, killed, and ate Trisha
The bats need to wake up!!!! Lets go Yankees!!! and dont worry Grandy is struggling now but he will start clicking soon and the line up will be even better.
Erica in NY,
Last year I just started going to a new beach. Super mellow. Not crowded at all. The best part about it is no meatheads that love to hang out at Jones Beach.
Let’s go Yankee bats!!!!
You are not behaving very well tonight.
Quit living up to your name
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I just thought it was funny that Mick kept his imposter campaign up despite every single thing he clamored for being implemented to thwart the imposters.
Yankees need to wake up, 2 hits so far off this O’Sulllivan guy, who the heck is he King Felix
Jorge Posada is a terrible defensive catcher.
Hunter flipping the bat on that shot. Probably thought he had a double. Atta boy Swish!
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Erica in NY,
Last year I just started going to a new beach. Super mellow. Not crowded at all. The best part about it is no meatheads that love to hang out at Jones Beach.
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Where is it?
I grew up going to Rockaway with my grandma
Hi everyone,
I know GB will be posting it sooner or now, but yeah Jesus is on fire, and he just destroyed his second HR of the game.
Now lets get the Yankees going.
thanks Tyler, I haven’t gotten off the Ajax bandwagon, he’s younger also
2 HR’s for Montero tonight…could he be a possible DH and part time catcher as well?
It’s OK to score in more than one inning, isn’t it?
A-Jax:
1-20-.304
.358 OBP
16/19 SB’s
(332 AB’s)
I just thought it was funny that Mick kept his imposter campaign up despite every single thing he clamored for being implemented to thwart the imposters.
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so you used your superior intellect and humor to egg me on?
” HR’s for Montero tonight…could he be a possible DH and part time catcher as well?”
I would hope.
Is it just me or is this game getting pathetic? Haven’t had a baserunner since the first inning to a spot starter?
Rich in NJ July 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
It’s OK to score in more than one inning, isn’t it?
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I blame myself.
I was waiting for my second load of laundry to finish in the dryer before I showered. I think I need to do it now
Jason22 July 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Hi everyone,
I know GB will be posting it sooner or now, but yeah Jesus is on fire, and he just destroyed his second HR of the game.
Now lets get the Yankees going.
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Love Cliff Lee, but I am really happy we still have Jesus.
“You don’t want to know”
That bad, huh? Oh, well.
my 8 inning 2 runs prediction is looking good right now
so you used your superior intellect and humor to egg me on?
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We did good, we found out there is a secret 4 man testing team.
mick July 20th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I just thought it was funny that Mick kept his imposter campaign up despite every single thing he clamored for being implemented to thwart the imposters.
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so you used your superior intellect and humor to egg me on?
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That sounds very Jerkface-like
“He’s at like .300 with 1 homer and 16 RBI. He only has like a 700 OPS. He’s slowed down much as many predicted on this blog.”
Jackson’s OPS is .771 heading into tonight. Granderson’s is like .700 though.
Okay! A baserunner!
Erica in NY,
Its called Knickerbocker. Its right near Malibu in Long Beach
Can always count on Gardner to not follow the HERD
the cliff lee broken deal was a wake up call for Montero
tampayank July 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
thanks Tyler, I haven’t gotten off the Ajax bandwagon, he’s younger also
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I have always liked Ajax and he’ll still be a good player, but I would have done that trade 100%. The way I look at it is if Ajax develops fully he will be a Grandy type of player when he was going well. Ajax just got inflated by that ridiculous start and his unbelievable BABIP
I’d like to see a stolen base here.
2 HR’s for Montero tonight…could he be a possible DH and part time catcher as well….I think he is forcing a call-up with his bat at least for August….
We did good, we found out there is a secret 4 man testing team.
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it’s not a secret anymore.
maybe it was all a dream…
Erica in NY
I’ll wait…
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Erica in NY,
Its called Knickerbocker. Its right near Malibu in Long Beach
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I know it. Its nice there in Lido.
Last summer, my cousin and his fiancee (now wife) had their engagement party under the Mushrooms
Both of Montero’s homers were hit to the same spot over the right center field wall. a long way.
Bill D July 20th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
“He’s at like .300 with 1 homer and 16 RBI. He only has like a 700 OPS. He’s slowed down much as many predicted on this blog.”
Jackson’s OPS is .771 heading into tonight. Granderson’s is like .700 though.
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Didn’t realize that. My mistake. I must have read Jacksons wrong. I will always root for Austin (except against the Yanks) and enjoyed following him as a prospect. I just think that Grandy will still be a good player for the Yanks and would give up the unproven prospect in Jackson for him anytime.
“I just thought it was funny that Mick….”
Weren’t you paying attention before. It was not funny.
This is totally off topic, but Damages is being renewed, but only on DirectTV. Since I don’t have DirectTV, this news blows!!
Now, back to baseball…….
My Goodness…I hate the Angels.
Good to see Montero driving it to right center. I know people on here were suggesting he might becoming a little too pull happy early on. Good sign.
only you are funny nick
cmon Jete
I could comment on that DP, but I won’t.
Jeter doing what Jeter loves to do. /sarcasm
Outcome fail.
Jeter is absolutely awful right now!.. below .270 yet?
ughhhh Jeter. Where has the offense gone this game? O’Sullivan’s made some nice adjustments. The Yanks got to counter
Ugh.
The proposed trade had nothing to do with “waking” Montero up. He was hitting long before that.
There are others.
How wonderful that we have our “second leadoff hitter” and “speedster” at the bottom of the order who just absolutely refuses to run with a ground ball hitter at the plate!
Gardner has stolen 4 bases in his last 30 games. For a guy with his speed, that’s just terrible. Without his stolen base ability, he’s little more than a weak singles hitter the majority of the time.
Gardner hardly ever tries to steal bases, then its GDP.
Shouldn’t Jeter bat 9th and let Gardner lead off?
Its not even worth commenting anymore
You just grin and accept that its fate
Okay, I’m going to commit heresy here.
Jeter needs to be dropped in the order. Put him at 7 or 8. Put Gardner in the lead off spot, and bat Granderson at 9.
did jete swing at the 1st pitch again…
this game feels like another throwaway
he is killing rallies
never in my life would I expect jeter to be this brutal.
He doesn’t run because they don’t want to lose the hole between 1st and 2nd for their precious little jeter.
Gardner should of been on second. Bad showing by the offense tonight.
“I just think that Grandy will still be a good player for the Yanks and would give up the unproven prospect in Jackson for him anytime”
I always liked the trade. Don’t think Granderson will be a superstar or anything, but he’s a very good ballplayer. He’ll be better than he’s been most of this season at some point.
The offense does not look so hot tonight against Cy O’Sullivan. But there’s still a ways to go…
“# Rob B July 20th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Okay, I’m going to commit heresy here.
Jeter needs to be dropped in the order. Put him at 7 or 8. Put Gardner in the lead off spot, and bat Granderson at 9.”
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We know its never going to happen no matter what.
Erica in NY,
With the recreation pass its only 8 bucks to park. I’m tempted to get a Cabana there next year
….but he’s not in a slump…
you’re good nick
I would figure with capt GIDP, Gardner would’ve at least madew an attempt to steal.
That said is Jeter just having a mediocre year or is this “decline”?
Top story on espn.com is why nobody seems to notice that Arod is 2 shy of 600. Porbably because espn is choosing to ignore it. if it was ortiz we would never hear the end of it.
So that was, what? The 453rd time this year that Jeter grounds into a double play with Gardner on first. Really? Why don’t they send him?
I just saw the Carl Crawford replay. The ball hit him square on his Johnson.
Jeter is 36, is it a slump or is he just finally starting decline?
Is it just me or maybe its time to give Cap’n Jetes a day off to just relax…I mean maybe tell him he is not allowed in the park…Just a R&R day to give him a mental relax day.
We lit up David Price and so far tonight a AAA callup has surrendered 2 hits in Yankee Stadium, go figure.
But I thought Jeter was just in his usual slump?
Can’t catch up to the fastball, 70% ground balls, .714 OPS, looks like someone who is… getting old.
Another nobody rookie holding us to a 2 hitter.. unreal. Watch his next start he will give up 10 runs in 3 innings (as long as it isn’t against us).
The Angels still have the type hitters to give Yanks fits. They are so confident of hitting our pitching. Hughes can’t reach 95-96 anymore or what ? Location is still off.
DH NEEDED ! Miranda is not EVER gonna be the answer for Yanks. Maybe for someone else, not here. And forget Thames being really productive against lefties, he’s over the hill a little.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Montero come up while he’s on fire and take a few swings and see where he’s at, that is if Yanks don’t acquire a “proven” DH.
Watch Hideki steal a base now. lol.
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Erica in NY,
With the recreation pass its only 8 bucks to park. I’m tempted to get a Cabana there next year
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Once you get a cabana it changes everything. If you can swing it, I highly recommend it. You will feel like you have a summer house.
We started in 1993 with a locker. It gave us a basic place to store our stuff, but staying late wasn’t really an option cause we had no electicity or place to prep/store food. We got the cabana a couple of years later and now I spend every possible minute there.
I am 29 now and have been going to this beach club since I was 12. I can’t imagine a summer anywhere else
“So that was, what? The 453rd time this year that Jeter grounds into a double play with Gardner on first. Really? Why don’t they send him?”
I believe that Gardner is free to run whenever he wants to. He has to feel that he’s got a chance before he goes. I guess he didn’t feel that he had an opening.
Hughes is all over the place tonight…I would just get him out of their at this point.
Never mind I detest this Angels team with every fiber of my being as a Yankee fan, but to see them come into Yankee Stadium with this fill in and leading is nauseating to watch.
Hopefully the Yankees will wake up soon.
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
I just saw the Carl Crawford replay. The ball hit him square on his Johnson.
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Is he out?
Laura
I was helping someone out in the lohud fantasy baseball league. I pretended to buy players in the league as a prank towards Erica. It was taken very poorly and caused a fight. As a result, a lot of people got angry at me, started accusing me of doing things I wasn’t doing, and threatening me to not post on Lohud. I decided to stay away in order to avoid these issues, but because I haven’t defended myself, I’ve been blamed for everything that’s gone wrong online with imposters, in these people’s lives, and in the world around them. By the way, did anyone know I’m responsible for the BP Oil leak?
Not understanding why he would throw a 3-2 changeup to Matsui. Give up a walk on your fourth best pitch. Not good.
“Is it just me or maybe its time to give Cap’n Jetes a day off to just relax…I mean maybe tell him he is not allowed in the park…Just a R&R day to give him a mental relax day.”
He was just off (partially) for the All Star break.
“Jeter is 36, is it a slump or is he just finally starting decline?”
Time will tell.
Holy squeezing going on
If Yanks can continue bringing up Miranda, they might as well give Montero a look.
I don’t get to see this team on TV often and especially mlbtv, but whether it be on here or on Fox the team plays terrible and the pitching falls apart everytime! It almost drives me insane because I like watching them play but this is ridiculous.. WAKE UP BATS!!
From today’s Times, Jeter says
“I don’t sit around talking about a slump,”
“I really don’t have a confidence problem.”
Perhaps he’s NOT in denial either.
Jeter keeps on taking money off his upcoming contract
Yankee Stadium would give Johnny Damon a serious BA boost over Comerica Park.
Silly Michael Kay
Like I said about Napoli….
“Is he out?”
They took him out of the game immediately. He was having trouble walking. I felt bad for him.
Mike Napoli thinks its the 2009 ALCS again
and they want to give Jeter 4 years….you give him 4 years and he bats 250 possibly on the first year of that deal
Can I pull my hair out now and scream?
Tyler July 20th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Top story on espn.com is why nobody seems to notice that Arod is 2 shy of 600. Porbably because espn is choosing to ignore it. if it was ortiz we would never hear the end of it.
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Bingo !!!
Here I am listening on the radio, and as soon as Sterling said the ball was gone I knew: Hughes threw him a cutter.
What a shock, another cutter and another home run.
WHY IS HUGHES SO STUPID?
There goes this game. Terrible job by Hughes.
shaky outing
Seriously, can we get a top flight pitching coach to work with Joba and Phil?
According to Gameday, Phil is getting squeezed but the ones right down the middle are going a long way.
at least my9 has been consistent
Okay good work Joe…he should never pitched after the leadoff walk with 95 pitches…yuck I hate that we blow so badly against the Angels.
watching this makes me so much madder that we didnt get lee!
Hughes has no breaking stuff today and he can’t locate his fastball, The Angles just sat on his fastball. Giradi left him in a batter too long.
what else can you say.. Phil absolutely stinks… 4 out of his last 5 outings.. Offense letting a no-name pitcher beat them and HR’s flying out of the park… Ugly
Phil Hughes has been terrific this year. A deserving all star. He’s hit a little bump in the road but for the most part he’s still throwing the bal well enough to win almost every time out.
Joba Chamberlain, at around some time this year, however, was 7-2 with a 3.58 ERA. Thats in a year where offense was far superior to what we’ve seen so far this year.
In that context it seems a little ridiculous that the organization has given up on Chamberlain as a starter.
I know one thing for sure. As much as I do like Sergio Mitre, I would much rather have Chamberlain be making these next 4-5 starts in Pettitte’s absence.
Just seems unbelievably short sighted and ignorant to the ebbs and flows of young pitchers, which is what we’re seeing with young master Phil right here.
Oh, man.
Well, it was expected Phil would perhaps not be sharp after the break, but this is not a good night at all.
And the offense isn’t helping matters.
Why do the Yankees have so much trouble with changeup pitchers?
And if changeup pitchers can have so much success, why are pitchers like Hughes and AJ so reluctant to throw it?
Just boo.
Give Hughes a day off (or twelve) too while your at it.
Great job by Phil. His fastball got absolutely tattooed.
I wonder how many change ups Hughes threw tonight?
and the worse part about this is that Beantown is Oakland and the Rays are up against The Birds Pen…
Here we go, “Dejo.”
(fingers crossed)
Slop effort from Hughes tonight and an offense that cannot figure out Cy O’Sullivan, oh well at least tomorrow is a 1:05 game
Sooner this is out the system the better
Jesus can be your pitching coach, sometimes it’s just the players fault.
Hughes gave up 4 of those runs on 2 home runs that he allowed on his cutter.
It’s JUST THE CUTTER.
If he stopped throwing that one pitch he would give up half as many runs in every single game. Out of all of the runs he’s given up lately, the majority of them have been on that pitch.
DEJOMANIA!!!
You could see a little body language from Hughes after he didn’t get the close call on that 2-1 pitch. Might have been a good time for Posada to relax him. Not blaming Posada, mind you, but Hughes’ mindset didn’t seem to be where you want it on that 3-1 pitch to Napoli.
How in the world is it the pitching coach’s fault for Hughes having a bad night?
Does a player ever have any fault in his performances?
# tampayank July 20th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
and they want to give Jeter 4 years….you give him 4 years and he bats 250 possibly on the first year of that deal
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Who does ? Where’s you info from ?
Jeter is least of our worries.
“Jesus can be your pitching coach, sometimes it’s just the players fault.”
Dave Duncan says hi.
albie looks nervous
At least Hughes knows that he’s struggling. If you listen to his post game interviews, he comes right out and says that he stinks. Joba, on the other hand, says that the hitters just hit good pitches. Really, Joba? If they were good pitches, the hitters wouldn’t have hit them so far. LOL!
The Jeter situation is getting bad. I never thought there was a way for him to soil/tarnish his legacy, but if he asks for $18+mm per and 4+ years then he will certainly tarnish it by being a pig.
The league has caught on to Phil Hughes.
Phil is still a talented guy, but he has been struggling for a very long time now – a lot longer than his dominant 6 starts. I really don’t know why it was heresy to suggest that he was going to struggle in the 2nd half. He’s not had good command in awhile and he is giving up an unbelievable amount of hits lately. He’s not had real swing and miss stuff in awhile (his K rate is going down) – even in the game against the Ms. He’s given up 12 HRs – all at YS and most within the last month or so. I don’t believe it’s fatigue as Phil was struggling before he hit passed his high water mark in terms of innings from last year.
I know he said he wanted to use his changeup more in the 2nd half because he’s now seeing teams for the 2nd, 3rd times, etc… – but that one sounds like he threw it out of desperation because he’s not getting anything else over. The arm slot change that Eiland saw hasn’t helped – Phil is really struggling.
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 20th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
“Is he out?”
They took him out of the game immediately. He was having trouble walking. I felt bad for him.
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According to CBS, its his “groin”. Not good
Is it just me or does everyone one of the Angels seem to tatoo our pitching (excluding Hideki)—they all hit!
“So that was, what? The 453rd time this year that Jeter grounds into a double play with Gardner on first. Really? Why don’t they send him?”
“I believe that Gardner is free to run whenever he wants to. He has to feel that he’s got a chance before he goes. I guess he didn’t feel that he had an opening.”
It seems like he never has the right feel when Jeter is up and it always ends up in a double play. I thought after his performance in April, that he would steal 50 bases this season. It seemed like he didn’t need a feel for it because he was confident enough that he was gonna steal the bag anyway.
Juan Rivera .250 hitter, hitting 1.000 tonight…unreal
Alby’s gotta throw strikes up here. Swish trying to get a web gem, instead gets on the bloopers reel.
“How in the world is it the pitching coach’s fault for Hughes having a bad night?”
Oh, it’s just a bad night? My bad.
Hows that non cliff lee trade looking now?
and whats the use of having gardner get on base if he isn’t going to steal, especially with captain GIDP coming up after him. Say what you want about gardner vs carl crawford but you know crawford is going to attempt to steal a base 9 times out of 10 when he gets on in that situation.
Alby has lost a ton of weight.
“# NYY fan in NH July 20th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
what else can you say.. Phil absolutely stinks… 4 out of his last 5 outings.. Offense letting a no-name pitcher beat them and HR’s flying out of the park… Ugly”
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I can’t say I’m surprised with Hughes, he has been teetering for a while, what is surprising is this no name scrub from who knows where has allowed a mere 2 hits in Yankee Stadium.
Erica in NY,
I think its like 2100 bucks for the season. My car payment is done next year so I could probably swing it. Which beach club do you go to if you don’t mind me asking?
Not over yet, you know we’ll get the tying run to the plate at some point.
Laundry is done-
I am getting in the shower now.
Bret The Hitman July 20th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
The league has caught on to Phil Hughes.
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Tonight was not because of the league catching up. He was just bad tonight no control especially of the breaking stuff.
Oh it’s Eiland’s fault Phil has been awful for a month and a half? He wasn’t good when Eiland wasn’t here………….and he was great for the first month when Eiland was here.
Phil may just not be ready for this. His stuff is good, but not exceptional and his secondary pitches aren’t there. It’s not Eiland’s fault – that’s on Phil.
Hughes didn’t listen to my advice. And jeter come on. And why do these changeup pitchers give them trouble. Just don’t wait for the fastball and sit changeup.
“Hows that non cliff lee trade looking now?”
Great. Montero is en fuego.
Triple Short of a Cycle July 20th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Erica in NY,
I think its like 2100 bucks for the season. My car payment is done next year so I could probably swing it. Which beach club do you go to if you don’t mind me asking?
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Silver Point at the very west end of Atlantic Beach
If you are seriously considering it, you should check now to see if there is a waiting list
Tampa Bay just tied it and is still threatening
By the way, Randy Winn is absolutely on fire for the Cardinals lately…
this is just another sleepwalk game, i guarantee a win tmw
Hughes will bounce back in his next start.
Eialnd is the bestest pitching coach ever. Nothing is ever his fault. He only deserves credit.
The Angels always seem to steal, yet they don’t have anyone who can run like Gardner can, yet Gardner seems planted at first. That is so frustrating with him.
Great and the Rays are about to tie up the Orioles in the 6th
Man on 2nd, 1 out down 4-3
uh, Hughes velocity was NOT what it usually is, or at least what it CAN be. when he’s on his game, he sits at 93-95. tonight, it was at 91-92. he was flat with his stuff, not crisp, couldn’t hit corners to save his life, it was just an awful performance.
that comment about the Angles not being a good matchup? uh, yeah, that’s pretty funny. my local community college would have been a bad matchup the way Phil was throwing tonight.
damn, this should have been an easy win. Hughes vs. O’Sullivan, Yanks playing at home against a mediocre team. not sharp tonight Yanks.
Change-up most under used EFFECTIVE pitch in baseball !
Ever since Hughes had that start skipped, he has not been the same.
I think he has a hard time with the long layoffs, but that’s not really an excuse; every 4th or 5th starter had to deal with the 10 days………….
Tampa leading 6-4 now over Balt.
It makes me laugh when all of you amateur pitching coaches try to tear Phil apart in the midst of an all star season.
Newsflash: he wasn’t going to pitch to a 1.38 ERA all season. If someone told you that Phil Hughes would be 11-2 or 11-3 with a 4.00 ERA at this point in the season and have made the all star team, every single one of you would have taken it.
If anything its better that he’s getting these bad ones out of the way so he can make sound adjustments for the stretch run. The stuff is no different than it was earlier in the year. His command is just a tick off and his pitch sequencing has been a little predictable.
Its part of dealing with incorporating young pitchers into the starting rotation on a championship level team. Its why this team hasn’t developed a starting pitcher since Andy Pettitte- no one is really capable of dealing with it. Its why Joba Chamberlain is wasting his career away in the bullpen right now too.
Tampa has a 6-4 lead, well it looks like our 2 game lead will be 3.
Dejo is getting lucky here, lets see if he pays a price for it.
Mark-Cant Touch This July 20th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Tampa has a 6-4 lead, well it looks like our 2 game lead will be 3.
sorry 3 to 2
phil will be in the pen for the playoffs, book it.
I know there is 162 games, but I just despise losing to the Angels, something I cannot stand about that team, maybe it was all those years of the Rally Monkey, but I detest losing to the Angels.
I would rather the Royals, heck Pirates come in and win against us like this.
SJ44 July 20th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
How in the world is it the pitching coach’s fault for Hughes having a bad night?
Does a player ever have any fault in his performances?
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Only Arod.
And the Rays tied up the Orioles 4-4, with runners ant 2nd and 3rd and 1 out
Yanks looking like they are going to lose some more ground to Tampon Bay tonight.
Yogi
Gardner has done so well for us and been a huge reason for us being in first place, you really can’t fault him for remaining planted at first a bit too often. It did cost us 2 outs on the Jeter DP.
“# NYY fan in NH July 20th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Tampa leading 6-4 now over Balt.”
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Yep
Success!
Granderson may be struggling on the field, but he’s still hitting HRs off of the field…
“Yankees outfielder Curtis Granderson is serving as the national spokesman for First Lady Michelle Obama’s Let’s Move! campaign, with the goal of solving the challenge of childhood obesity.”
Hughes velocity was NOT what it usually is, or at least what it CAN be. when he’s on his game, he sits at 93-95. tonight, it was at 91-92.
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His average velocity in April was 92, in May it was 92.5, June, July also 92. Tonight 92.
If he was 93-95, his average would be 94. You’re misinformed
btw, Can’t both Hughes (and Joba) and Eiland be at fault?
Why is it one or the other?
This is still the Angels, who love playing Yanks for quite a few years. They’re not great this year, but certainly play us tough.
The Yanks really have to be concerned with Hughes. He has had injuries the last couple of years and his arm is not going to be used to throwing 150+ innings. It seems like his arm is fatigued right now or he is having the AJ problem. When his fastball isn’t amazing he can’t get people out.
A tad late, are we?
Except for he takes forever between pitches, not a bad showing so far for JA.
Good job by Albie.
Stuff didn’t look all that much different from what we’ve seen the past two years. I think the tools are there for him to be a useful reliever.
# Matt July 20th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Hughes gave up 4 of those runs on 2 home runs that he allowed on his cutter.
It’s JUST THE CUTTER.
If he stopped throwing that one pitch he would give up half as many runs in every single game. Out of all of the runs he’s given up lately, the majority of them have been on that pitch.
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According to Gameday, the first HR was on a Fastball, not a Cutter. In fact, only 3 of the 9 hits allowed by Hughes tonight came on the cutter. I don’t think it’s “just the cutter” at all. At least not tonight.
Hughes will be fine, just a bit of rough patch. And we have the SP talent to get it done, Lee would have been nice but that’s a bit of overkill and backlash from the rest of baseball if that deal went down. AJ just needs to get it back together, that’s the key w/ Pettitte on the DL
“By the way, Randy Winn is absolutely on fire for the Cardinals lately…”
Of course he is. He’s back in the weaker NL where he belongs.
“# CR9 July 20th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Yogi
Gardner has done so well for us and been a huge reason for us being in first place, you really can’t fault him for remaining planted at first a bit too often. It did cost us 2 outs on the Jeter DP.”
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Might help if the Captain actually could produce a nice ball into the gap or something instead he hits his usual ground ball DP,
So much for getting on a hot streak from Sunday.
I realize its not kosher to criticize Derek but this is getting ridiculous. His numbers aren’t lying folks.
Clar, not true – he hasn’t been good at all since mid- May, way before his start was skipped.
Time to put the hurt on O’Sullivan.
For one thing, he looks like a Redsock.
# A-ROID takes it up the ass from DEREK CHEATER July 20th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
The yanks look horrible tonight… They’re definitely not prepared to play ANY team outside of their weak division.
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wasn’t there a 15 letter reg. rule?
Rich,
Until you can produce more than whining as to why Eiland isn’t a good pitching coach, it’s pretty foolish to blame him everytime a pitcher has a bad night.
Hughes pitched great his last start. He wasn’t good tonight.
Seems to me that’s more on a player having a bad night.
Is Kevin Long to blame for Jeter’s slump? Nope.
The staff ERA has gone down every year Eiland has been here. The Staff has also been very healthy for the most part.
Meaning, the schedule he has the pitchers on seems to be working.
The team is winning in large part this year because of starting pitching. He gets no credit for that?
Players, not coaches, determine outcomes once the games start.
If a guy has a bad night, that’s on him.
How is that a strike?
Old buddy, Scott Proctor is now pitching for Gwinnett against Scranton.
That period of “on fire” for Winn is 21 AB. bfd
I still can’t believe the Yanks have 3 hits into the 6th inning.
That’s part of the reason why Phil struggled tonight. That 1-1 pitch to Swisher was a ball, yet called a strike. Phil was around the plate quite a bit, and got NO borderline calls.
“# 57ryank July 20th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
This is still the Angels, who love playing Yanks for quite a few years. They’re not great this year, but certainly play us tough.”
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Don’t know why the Angels haven’t been scaring anybody this season, teams aren’t exactly shivering against them.
2 hits I meant
Kazmir wouldn’t have done this good tonight!
“And if changeup pitchers can have so much success, why are pitchers like Hughes and AJ so reluctant to throw it?”
I don’t know if it’s an organizational philosophy, but the Yankees are just not good with changeups. Their hitters don’t hit them and their pitchers don’t throw them. Only Sabathia and Vazquez, who were highly polished before they got here, utilize the changeup well. Hughes, Chamberlain, Rivera, Pettitte, Burnett, Robertson, Melancon, and Coke (when he was here, obviously) all have hard secondary pitches like sliders, curveballs, and cutters.
More proof that the opposing team’s announcers are stupid. The LAA guys just said that when they were walking through the stadium, they thought to themselves “There are a lot of Yankee fans here tonight”. I’m not making that up.
no matter what Angels won’t make the postseason.
Breaking ball, after breaking ball, after breaking ball, the Yankees are getting breaking balled to death.
“# NYY fan in NH July 20th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
I still can’t believe the Yanks have 3 hits into the 6th inning.”
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Err, that’s 2 hits buddy.
Anyone who has the time should check out Rob Neyer’s short blog entry on Joba today on the ESPN website.
Key points-
1- Joba has actually pitched quite well this year
2- Joba has been unlucky on balls in play
3- Joba is throwing close to as hard as he was in 2008
Nothing I’ve seen from him so far this year has indicated to me that this guy is more “fit” to be a reliever than a starting pitcher. His best outings have been the ones in which he has incorporated his curveball- a pitch that he was supposed to jettison in becoming that “TWO PITCH DOMINANT ALL OUT MAX EFFORT FIST PUMPING EXCITMENT GENERATING” reliever. His command has also been good enough in relief to indicate that it wouldn’t have posed a ton of problems for him as a starter.
The Yanks are playing like they are in a hurry.
Jeter is the most guilty of that, swinging at the 1st pitch almost every AB.
When they win, they are patient and wear the pitcher out.
They did it against TB.
They seem to let up against weaker teams and pitchers they haven’t seen.
Ugh- how lucky can they get.
I meant put the hurt by scoring some runs.
Don’t get thrown out for that crap.
Kevin, but his stuff hasn’t been great in awhile – check out his K rates; they are declining drastically. He’s giving up a ton of HRs at YS – really, none of his pitches are that good right now. Perhaps the long layoff does affect the quality of his FB, but his #s have been in decline since before the skipped starts, so I can’t blame the long rest.
It’s hard not to think that the reason Phil dominated earlier was because teams didn’t have a book on him – that’s a huge reason, anyway. He hasn’t made adjustments at all – and that’s a real concern. His location isn’t good at all – I thought he was supposed to have such great command? How is it that command disappears for such a long stretch? His cutter is killing him now……. It’s just so many things with him. He has problems with 2 outs, he has problems with bad hitters………
This is an awful game on offense. DEADWOOD special
Similar frustration to the game in Detroit that Dontrell Willis was scheduled to start but didn’t
Obviously, the Yankees will win now
“Err, that’s 2 hits buddy.”
…..your a little late, look up the post
And the gum throw.
If the playoffs started today, Javy Vazquez would start games 2 and 6 of an ALCS assuming we can win 3 games before that with Hughes or Burnett pitching in at least one of them. But hey, at least we still have Montero who, while he won’t catch in the majors and is blocked at first, might be a good DH at some point down the road……so we have that going for us, which is nice.
Well, that Tex play just made it obvious that this game is over.
“# NYY fan in NH July 20th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
“Err, that’s 2 hits buddy.”
…..your a little late, look up the post
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Yeah, I know saw it after, I’m kind of like the Yankees tonight, behind the ball.
He threw changeups tonight. It’s not a magic pitch.
In fact, he threw a 3-2 changeup to Matsui to walk him prior to the Napoli HR.
It’s about fastball command and holding your composure when you get squeezed.
Two things Hughes didn’t have tonight.
Rob,
The pitch was very obviously a cutter, Gameday mis-classified it because it was such a flat delivery. If you’re not watching the game, I’d suggest not making comments related to the type and movement of a pitch.
Both the home runs were given up on flat cutters out over the plate, and when you have a fastball so close in velocity and your cutter doesn’t move, it’s only helping the hitters out. Dumb pitching by Hughes once again costs him big time.
just end this game already… 17 of 18 retired
Nice inning, Alby.
So I tried to register this afternoon but apparently someone decided to attempt to steal my username that I’ve been posting under for over 3 years.
A quick email to Chad and the imposter was deleted. There’s only one miggs.
Whoever that was, you’re going to have to try a little harder than that to get rid of me!
I’m back baby!
Betsy, are you saying Phil is not a good pitcher or he is going through a bad stretch?
SJ44
You’re persistent use of condescending adjectives cannot substitute for the failure to make an argument.
Any coach is judged on results.
Eiland was specifically hired to shepherd the big three’s development.
What we have seen is inconsistent performances from Hughes and Joba.
You cite one night, I will cite Hughes’s June ERA: 5.17 and his July ERA: 4.15.
Joba’s season ERA is 5.77 for the season.
You want to cite veterans’ performance in support of Eiland’s success, but all it really shows is that a $200m payroll can buy quality pitchers.
Instead of whining about anyone who disagrees with you, maybe you should try to be a little more tolerant of other people’s opinions…because they may just be right.
RS -
Right – both sides – pitching/hitting – changeups are like a dirty word.
I think the Yankees need a W-L stat specifically for when Girardi gets thrown out of the game. I’d like to see it.
miggs and mick at the same time, who said we were one and the same?
there is no way around this….look at this year for Phil, when he is skipped or simply gets extra rest days, he is not very good. What will help, is that AJ starts to show some consistency, but dont bet on that, right ?
I can’t believe this AAA nobody made it threw the 6th inning living on 1 pitch. It’s like Edwar Ramirez on the mound. The sad part is everyone knows O’Sullivan won’t make it out of the 3rd inning in his next start. Cashman absolutely without a doubt has to trade for a hitter. This offense gets shut down by too much garbage.
Betsy, you would think that he’s having an awful year by the borderline obsessive compulsive negativity you spew about him.
His ERA is a full run less than our 16 million per year # 2 starter. And its lower than any ERA Pettitte put up with the Yankees since, I believe, 2002.
Does that put anything in perspective for you? You do realize that most often guys go through very hot streaks and then very bad streaks that even out at a mean. Very few pitchers have three good starts and one bad start thus pitching uniformly and consistently throughout a season.
This place is just a pleasure when the Yankees are losing.
Albie did his job at least last inning, and threw some good off-speed pitches
“# NYY fan in NH July 20th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
just end this game already… 17 of 18 retired”
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Tell me about it, thankfully there is a quick turnaround tomorrow, this performance so far tonight has been a dog.
I just don’t get this Yankee team sometimes, they look lifeless at times.
I could understand if they were facing Lee, Hernandez, Verlander or someone like that but Scott O’Sullivan, W.T.F. Ugh.
The YES guys are really hung up on this “umpires ganging up on Girardi” thing.
montero 2 for 2, 2 hr, 3 rbi, 1 bb
LOL, Rob Neyer’s short blog is a joke
# Betsy July 20th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Clar, not true – he hasn’t been good at all since mid- May, way before his start was skipped.
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I could accept what was happening mid-May. But it just seems to me ever since that skipped start he has not been the same.
# Betsy July 20th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
It’s hard not to think that the reason Phil dominated earlier was because teams didn’t have a book on him – that’s a huge reason, anyway. He hasn’t made adjustments at all – and that’s a real concern. His location isn’t good at all – I thought he was supposed to have such great command? How is it that command disappears for such a long stretch? His cutter is killing him now……. It’s just so many things with him. He has problems with 2 outs, he has problems with bad hitters………
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I don’t think his domination had much to do at all with teams not having a book on him. His location was amazing when he was pitching so well at the beginning of the year. Now, he has too many balls drift over the plate and get hammered. He just isn’t able to locate as well as he did at the beginning of the year.
It also may be that he isn’t getting the benefit of the close call as much as he used to. While I’m not going to say that’s the biggest reason he’s not pitching as well, I do think it may be a very minor part of the problem. In fact, it seems that NONE of the Yankee pitchers (besides Mo) get as many marginal calls as they seemed to be getting earlier on.
Looks like every hitter on the Angels is sitting fastball away and trying to slap it the other way.
Maybe that’s a sign to throw some fastballs in on their hands? Nope, we’d rather let them lean out over the plate all game and hit that pitch. Brilliant pitch selection.
“# BJK July 20th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
This place is just a pleasure when the Yankees are losing.”
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Well at least something is because the Yankee hitters tonight against a 4 run era minor league scrub sure haven’t been a pleasure to watch at the plate.
Yeah its 1 game, but still aggravating when its that California team with a name identity crisis.
Just not hitting tonite
awwwww…betsy is ignoring me, i’m hurt….and again who was the idiot who thought miggs and i were the same person? one guess. g. whiz…
Alba looks great!!!!!!
Hughes is still developing as a pitcher, right now he can’t function without a good location on his fastball, until he develops consistent breaking balls he will continue to struggle.
Ok so the game threads are still bad when the Yankees are losing. Can someone explain to me what we the users have gained with this registration stuff?
Mick, sort of both I guess. His lousy #s since mid-May are not by accident. SJ mentioned he lost composure tonight – he’s been doing that for awhile (all those 2 out hits with RISP – or HRs, for that matter). I’m concerned about his command – now either his command in the minors was great because he was facing overmatched minor leaguers or it really is that good and his mechanics are messed up. Maybe it’s in between – he’s got good, but not special command. His stuff is good – but he doesn’t have lights out stuff – and I have said from the very beginning, back early in the season when CB and co. were saying he could get away with 2 pitches – that Phil can’t afford to do that. Few pitchers can – he definitely can’t. His curve is very inconsistent – it’s not a plus pitch. He can work on it in the majors, but he’s going to get tatooed.
When he was dominating, he was able to get out of jams, but since he stopped dominating, he’s pretty much crumbled in a lot of big spots – that’s the worst part. Either way, he’s a huge work in progress.
Hung a curve.
Jeff NJ July 20th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Ok so the game threads are still bad when the Yankees are losing. Can someone explain to me what we the users have gained with this registration stuff?
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No one is pretending to be me and posting obscene comments in my handle
I just don’t get this Yankee team sometimes, they look lifeless at times.
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I told you, they are playing follow the leader. Jeter is the leader and he jumps at every 1st pitch he sees.
Put Gardner up 1st and Jeter will take more pitches. It’s that easy.
15-20 pitches in the 1st inning to those 2 will take the pitcher out.
The game thread may be worse with the registration, since half the posters have stopped discussing baseball and are talking about things totally off topic. The people you call “trolls” at least care enough about the game on the field to provide some energy for what has become a dead thread.
Rich,
He wasn’t just hired to coach three guys.
He was hired to be the pitching coach for the ENTIRE staff. Not just three young guys.
Look at his results.
WS title, the staff ERA has dropped each year, and Hughes is 11-3 as a starter in his first full year.
Just because you concentrate on what younger players do, doesn’t mean it’s the only job the guy has.
Veteran players also lean on pitching coaches and it’s been well documented on what he had done with CC, AJ and Pettitte.
Joba’s problem has always been Joba.
Looking at his overall results proves he is a good pitching coach.
If he wasn’t, the overall staff wouldn’t be performing as well as it has in his tenure.
Matt July 20th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Rob,
The pitch was very obviously a cutter, Gameday mis-classified it because it was such a flat delivery. If you’re not watching the game, I’d suggest not making comments related to the type and movement of a pitch.
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That’s irrelevant. Gameday may have mis-classified one pitch, but I doubt it is going to mess up on 6. Point is, it was not just his cutter that was the problem tonight.
And I’m SO sorry I’m not watching the game. I mean, gee, it’s all my fault that I live in a blackout area. And if you are a moron, which you are, I suggest not making comments at all.
Hughes is getting hurt by LHP in NYS.
Less trolling. Fans are still going to get disgruntled when the Yankees lose.
this is nothing new, the Yanks seem to always bail out Triple A guys that get called up to the Bigs
Albie works toooooo sloooooow!
And it’s a boring game to begin with.
miggs, tell us what you really feel…
Po’s arm has been awesome tonight.
I feel like I just saw that about an hour earlier. lol
Well, I had to look up “Eiffel Tower.” Oh dear.
Haha I think it’s time Abreu stops running
Gee, Posada can’t throw !!! 2 perfect ones
No question that this is the new and improved Allballsandbango. if not for the caught stealings, line drives at people, and running into pop up double plays, would hughes or allballsandbango have recorded an out today?
Are you kidding me?
The guy who stole my name and got booted has now RE REGISTERED with the same name with a period on the end.
And made those comments about Betsy.
I guess its time for another email to Chad.
What a loser.
Rich,
You cannot possibly look at the overall body of work that Phil Hughes has put up over the last 2 seasons and say that Eiland has “failed” with him. He’s been, for the most part, terrific.
And while I’m inclined to agree with you on Chamberlain, he’s a guy who hasn’t found any consistency since that night in Texas in 2008. Up to that point he was among the best pitchers in baseball that year and a Baseball Prospectus pick to be among the best handful of pitchers in the majors in 2009. I think the blame has to be mutual though. Joba has not looked to be nearly in the shape he was in 2008 since, well, 2008. He consistently makes the same predictable mistakes within certain pitch sequences. Thats his fault. But its also the fault of the coaching staff for not making him accountable for it. He’s been treated much too much like one of the “core” members of the team and that has made him seemingly untouchable to this staff. Fault is mutual.
I’d have to say the biggest “F” for Eiland has to go to Kennedy. If you look at his overall body of work in Arizona this year it looks pretty apparent that the guy still has the tools to be a frontline major league pitcher. I was never one who subscribed to the “Kennedy is a backend guy because he only throws 90″ theory. That they were unable to get him to even pitch like a passable major league pitcher in 2008 still really disappoints me.
Nothing wrong with Jorge’s arm, has been inaccurate at times.
Boy Abreu really must not think much of the Yankees ability, soon as he gets on he is running
Rob,
How is that irrelevant? 4 of the 6 runs tonight scored on 2 home runs he allowed on the cutter. There’s a difference between giving up an occasional base hit by challenging hitters with your fastball, and getting absolutely destroyed every time you throw a certain pitch.
You were wrong, and you even admitted you can’t watch the game because you are blacked out. So stop tossing around insults and being all immature, and try to not act like you know everything because you saw the approximate trajectory on Gameday. That’s too bad that you can’t watch the game, but if you can’t see what’s going on, stop pretending you know exactly what happened on the field.
# 57ryank July 20th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Gee, Posada can’t throw !!! 2 perfect ones
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Well, it IS Abreu. Remember how bad he was at stealing bases his last year with the Yankees?
G-C, I have nothing to say to you since you can’t be civil. You resort to hurling insults at me because I disgree…….hardly a way to promote discussion.
9:18 and 9:20 posts not me.
Time for Chad to block that IP address.
Enough of this garbage.
Alba with a great outing.
Erica in NY,
Sounds nice. Thanks for the info
11 hits to 2. Not encouraging.
Is the blog ever not fraught with sarcasm?
Rob B. Abreu wasn’t on the Yankees last year.
Rob B, maybe you’re right – but those starts seem to be awfully flukish right now. Some people can’t see any problems with Phil – no one is trying to attack him, but he’s pitching lousy and we are analyzing why he’s pitching lousy. We all want him to live up to his potential – saying (not that you are) that he’s been great, he’ll be fine is just living in denial.
I care less about the 6 runs given up than the sad showing we are having on offense against this rando pitcher.
betsy, now there are 2 miggs on board…and me…what a day, what a m***er f***in day as Denzel said in Training Day.
Park has looked better recently in 1 inning stints, and Robertson has looked good. Maybe our bullpen is shaping up.
G-C is actually right on the money with his comments.
Couldn’t agree more.
Park is on this team why?
If you look at the pitchfx data for Phil Hughes lately, his cutter’s horizontal movement has actually dropped to ZERO.
That’s right, ZERO horizontal movement. It can’t be shocking that he gets clobbered every time he throws that pitch, when all it does is speed up hitters’ bats.
It’s up to Hughes to stop throwing that pitch when it is totally ineffective, yet he continues to give up crippling hits on it.
Heave HO !
Now I know I did not like the idea of Park coming into the game to face Godzilla…
I didn’t know who was pitching until I saw the ball going out. At that point I just assumed it was park.
CHAN NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Well, at least we get all the dreck out of the way tonight.
Godzilla
Spoke too soon. 3 2-run homers today. yuck.
That may be it.
*Now I know WHY I did not like the idea of Park coming into the game to face Godzilla…
Why cant I edit my posts?
Why would you bring in Park to face Matsui?? LOL I figured Pena was bringing in Logan.
The Chan Ho Parkway will be permanently closed following tonight.
Nice choice girardi. Going to old faithful.
“# Stephen in Berkeley July 20th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I care less about the 6 runs given up than the sad showing we are having on offense against this rando pitcher.”
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Tell me about it, if we are looking for Hughes to pitch shutouts then good luck
How about the Yankees have more than 2 funky hits off of this minor league callup
Jerkface, Phil either gets used to it or he finds a new place of business in a few years. He really has only had the problems in his recent starts – he was fine earlier.
Who didn’t see THAT coming. Oy.
The average horizontal movement on Hughes cutter tonight was 1.5 inches
Aren’t we all glad the entire gang is back on the blog?
Chan should change his middle name from Ho to Outa
SJ
It’s easy to coach three guys with the talent of CC, AJ, and Andy. And AJ, the inconsistent one, has still not had the season he had in Toronto in 2007.
What’s hard is to coach up guys on the way up.
By way of example, look at the way Lester’s command, which wasn’t good in the mLs, has markedly improved.
Hughes was once considered a better prospect.
Sure, Lester deserves primary credit, but coaching can have a positive effect, and we aren’t getting it with our high ceiling young pitchers.
In contrast, Long has been performing near miracles, and hitting coaches usually don’t matter.
Let’s get that same type of talent in a pitching coach.
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Park should be DFA’d.
Hilarious: That happening mere moments after the CR9 comment.
Chan Ho Outta the Park strikes again
well I guess I can watch Rescue Me at 10
Didn’t take long for Park to return to form.
They teased us on Sunday.
Good night everybody!
# clar5 July 20th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
*Now I know WHY I did not like the idea of Park coming into the game to face Godzilla…
Why cant I edit my posts?
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We got the PICTURE !
When the Yankees lose, they’re no doubters. Just horrible tonight.
“# tampayank July 20th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
well I guess I can watch Rescue Me at 10″
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LOL, early bed for me tonight.
This baby is OVAH.
Matt, you have zero credibility. Zero. 99.9% of your posts happen when the Yankees are losing. You will try and deny that, but pretty much everybody here knows it’s true. As soon as the Yankees start losing, the posts start coming: “Here comes Matt.” As soon as the Yankees are winning, people are posting, “There goes Matt.” You’re a joke.
And Gameday is usually VERY accurate on pitch movement and location. That was my very point, which you totally missed. Yeah, maybe he threw two bad cutters (which I still don’t believe the first one was a cutter. Sorry, I think I’m going to go with Gameday rather than a source with no credibility). But still 6 out of 9 hits were off other pitches. And he also got a few outs with that cutter. It wasn’t just one pitch tonight.
And I KNOW the cutter has been a problem for him for a while. Did you not see the post where I said I knew the second HR was on a cutter before I saw it on Gameday?
And that’s all I’m going to say to you on the matter. Like they say: don’t respond to trolls. I’m going to follow that advice.
“Nice choice girardi. Going to old faithful.”
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I believe that would be Pena’s choice.
tonight is just a laugher, gotta laugh…
well I guess I can watch Rescue Me at 10
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don’t forget to watch Louie right after! Funniest show on tv.
One game ain’t a big deal. Rays are losing. Just a stinker. Time to move on. But the game isn’t over yet. We can still come back.
Well, I guess Park is this year’s version of LaTroy Hawkins.
I wonder if everytime Cash thinks of trading for relief help, he thinks of these guys like this? You know, guys who had reasonable resumes, came to NY, and disappointed….Maybe that’s one of the reasons why he keeps saying he wants to check in-house options first.
# miggs . July 20th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
F**ckin Jap Park ended this game!
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He’s Korean brainiac !
# sunny615 July 20th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Rob B. Abreu wasn’t on the Yankees last year.
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When did I say he was?
“Well, it IS Abreu. Remember how bad he was at stealing bases his last year with the Yankees?
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Wow, didn’t realize the Angels had a Monster Mash Crew lineup,
They can do no wrong on offense tonight, wonder why.
Guess we will be 2 up in the loss column on Tampa after tonight with Tampa winning
6 up in the loss column on the Sox if they beat Braden
Thankfully tomorrow is an early game after this pitiful display of baseball tonight.
Yeah CR9, the pen is shaping up just like you said. In fact, its identical in shape to the mass I left in the toilet just 20 minutes ago. This pen is awful and freak occurances like sunday serve one detrimental purpose…..they mask what truly and unquestionably is a terrible bullpen filled with gas cans and bums.
glad I watched Man vs. Food
What an embarrassing game. I would love to know why Park is still on this team?? He is NL garbage. Why would you take out Alba and not bring in Logan? Matsui hasn’t touched lefties all season.
I believe that would be Pena’s choice.
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Better than Pena’s envy.
“# sunny615 July 20th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
When the Yankees lose, they’re no doubters. Just horrible tonight.”
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Actually I don’t mind losses like these, its like getting a bad virus out of your system
Its the blown leads late, the 7th, 8th inning meltdowns that really stick in the craw.
Tonight this one was a no doubter from the starting pitching to the hitting.
well at least Dejo did well.
Did Hughes really throw 12 change ups tonight?
Carlo
lol. Alba looked good tonight and Robertson has looked good.
Anyone else hoping that Park leaves before the trade deadline?
mick you’re hysterical.
As for “miggs .” enjoyyour time while it lasts, Chad is in the processof banning your IP address.
Hope it was worth it for you.
What exactly was the reason Cashman wanted Nick Johnson at 5.5 million instead of the World Series MVP Hideki Matsui who got 6.5 million….and before you say he is not having a good year, he would be in Yankee Stadium with the Yankees and the short porch in RF and his #’s right now are pretty good at .250/11/49 and the playoff experience/clutch at bats etc….
“G-C, I have nothing to say to you since you can?t be civil. You resort to hurling insults at me because I disgree??.hardly a way to promote discussion.”
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Betsy, you never seem to take the time to actually read what I say because you automatically presume that I take you for a moron and am hurling insults at you. I said nothing that was even marignally insulting to you, nor do I have any intention of insulting you.
Your paranoia over Phil Hughes is, no offense to you, a bit ridiculous. This is something that major league pitchers go through. Given that Hughes was a huge reason why the Yankees won the World Series last year in the ‘pen and made the All Star team as a starter this year, I’d say he’s certainly arrived as a major leaguer and deserves a bit of benefit of the doubt. I can, from memory, recall a hell of a lot of Yankee starters over the past 10 years having FAR worse stretches than Hughes has had recently.
Mike Mussina coudn’t get through an inning without giving up a run in the first half of 2002. Andy Pettitte was brutal in September of 1998 and kept on doing it right on through the playoffs, when he almost cost the Yankees a spot in the World Series with a pathetic performance in Game 3 of the ALCS against Cleveland. He was so bad that he almost certainly wouldn’t have pitched in a game seven of that series- that start would have gone to Hernandez, on THREE days rest. Mind you, Pettitte was an established major leaguer with a 21 win season under his belt. Javier Vazquez had a 7 ERA in the second half of 2004 and bounced back to throw 5 representative major league seasons until returning here this year.
Maybe you don’t have the time to care about the point I’m trying to make, so I’ll put it a bit more simply for you – just relax. Like I said, pitchers very rarely pitch uniformly and consistently thorughout a season. Most often they alternate SUCKING and DOMINATING. That’s true for two other guys on the Yankees staff right now, so I can point to them as evidence- Mr. Burnett and Mr. Vazquez.
“Better than Pena’s envy.”
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Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
miggs, no , nick is the resident funny guy, where did betsy go?
It’s going to be a very long 24 hours here in Rally Monkey ville………..Thank You Chad for getting my identity back
Rich, if Phil has lost his command, if he’s lost his curve, his composure – that’s really all on him. The reason why I don’t want another starter (re: a Lilly)is because I think it is imperative that Phil remain in the rotation as long as possible…………Lester struggled at times before becoming who he is, so maybe that is what Phil is going through now. However, if he can’t find his command, can’t find his curve, can’t find his composure………then it won’t happen for him. Eiland can instruct Phil all he wants, but he can’t go out there and pitch for him.
I am pretty sure they will win tomorrow night.
what has changed today?
Granderson still sucks.. Hughes has been bad for a while. jeter is a double play machine who is awful right now.. he is awful
Chan ho still gives up homers.
nice ab by cano… why don’t you swing at a ball over your head next time
# Rob B July 20th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
# sunny615 July 20th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Rob B. Abreu wasn’t on the Yankees last year.
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When did I say he was?
“Well, it IS Abreu. Remember how bad he was at stealing bases his last year with the Yankees?
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22-33 SB’s in 2008. Not the worst I’ve heard of
By the way. For those who are preaching the change up, do you know what pitch Matsui hit out of the park?
Yup. A change up.
But, I know, Gameday “mis-classified” the pitch. It was really a spitball.
“# clar5 July 20th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Anyone else hoping that Park leaves before the trade deadline?”
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That is 1 day too long in my book.
Cashman is hanging on to the fantasy that Park, Gaudin, Joba will find themselves
the only thing they are finding is extra runs for the opposition on many a night.
We’ll see who Cashman sends packing when Mitre is activated.
G-C is my hero.
She never really reads the posts of people like you, me, mick, etc.
She doesn’t really have the knowledge to intelligently respond or argue her point, so she gets defensive and says you’re “attacking” her.
I love this blog!
“22-33 SB’s in 2008. Not the worst I’ve heard of”
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A 66% rate is pretty horrible. Like, better off not even trying horrible.
“# JobaTipsHisCap July 20th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I am pretty sure they will win tomorrow night.”
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Game is tomorrow afternoon, thankfully.
Park isn’t that bad. It was Matsui that got him. Matsui is a professional hitter and even though was 0-8 against Park, probably was not a good matchup.
I wasn’t impressed by Albaladejo at all. Looked like the same guy who couldn’t be trusted up here his last few call ups. Robertson has been very good, but two reliable relievers, even if one is the greatest of all time, does not make a bullpen. I don’t think going for one big name setup guy who will cost a fortune is the answer for this team. They have too many guys who stink and need to improve on that. Adding one 8th inning guy will ultimately do one thing, overtax the robertson, 8th inning guy, mariano combo. The rest of the pen isn’t at all trustworthy with a lead.
Granderson is tough to watch.
GC, there was no need for me to read further than your comment about me being obsessed. I guess if you think analyzing a player and criticizing him where warranted is signs of obsession, then call me obsessed. Again, I don’t intend to have any sort of conversation with you because I don’t appreciate being insulted. I don’t care what your intentions were, I take your comments to be attacks on me – all because I don’t agree with you. Let’s just drop it – I’m not going to get into an argument with you.
Joe from Long Island -
Absolutely agree. More times than not he gets burned when he pays “established” relievers to come to NY. At least recent memory.
At least with the guys in the system, if they do well, it’s a great thing; if they don’t, well, at least you haven’t wasted valuable dollars.
I’m gunshy of ANYONE they might bring in from the outside, including someone like Soria.
What the hell was granderson swinging at? I keep defending him, but it’s getting scary now.
Cashman is hanging on to the fantasy that Park, Gaudin, Joba will find themselves
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Park, Gaudin, Joba < Coke,Aceves , Hughes
Less than 24 hours, Pat M, we get ‘em at 10:00 a.m. local time tomorrow.
Not happy about lack of In-N-Out visit tonight.
Yawn, another guy making excuses for why he seems to know everything when he isn’t even watching the game!
I’m glad you trust Gameday more than someone watching the game who can actually see the movement of the pitch and the spin of the ball. Thank you for establishing your level of credibility.
A 90 mph 4-seamer? Use your head. What do you think that pitch was? When the pitch is as flat as that one was, it’s going to have a hard time classifying it as a cutter. The target was in off the plate and it stayed flat out over the plate. What pitch do you think he is trying to throw in off the plate?
Excuses excuses excuses. Keep going on about how you think I only post when they lose, because it doesn’t change the fact that you are still wrong and you have no credibility whatsoever given that you aren’t even watching a feed of the game.
I keep defending Grandy as well. Big Grandy fan, but he also cost us a baserunner earlier with a bit of poor defense.
“# CR9 July 20th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
One game ain’t a big deal. Rays are losing. Just a stinker. Time to move on. But the game isn’t over yet. We can still come back.
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Rays are winning 8-6
I hope Cashmoney never makes a trade with the Tigers ever again
In contrast, Long has been performing near miracles, and hitting coaches usually don?t matter
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Curtis Granderson says “whats up”!
This Betsy seems like a really unpleasant individual. Kinda like if my Grandmother decided to comment. I think you’re being a little sensitive to this perceived criticism, it’s only baseball talk.
granderson has no plate discipline. he is horrible…
this team is sleep walking tonight and got schooled by a chump…
disgraceful performance.
hughes has sucked for weeks and weeks……….
# miggs July 20th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
G-C is my hero.
She never really reads the posts of people like you, me, mick, etc.
She doesn’t really have the knowledge to intelligently respond or argue her point, so she gets defensive and says you’re “attacking” her.
I love this blog!
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Is this the real miggs or some cheap imitation, one can’t be sure these days.
“CR9 July 20th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Park isn’t that bad.”
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You’re joking right CR9
Park has pitched 29.1 innings, 35 hits, 20 ER, 7 HR, 6.14 ERA, .286 batting average against
That is brutal by any standard.
Also, you call me obsessed? How about you? You can’t see ANY problems that Phil has – everything is sunshine and lollipops. If you aren’t concerned about his diminished K rates, his lack of command and his inconsistent curve, then you are a rare bird
“Cashman is hanging on to the fantasy that Park, Gaudin, Joba will find themselves”
I don’t really think Joba needs to find himself.
I think he’s looked damn good of late. He’s pitched well this year and has lucked himself into a bad ERA.
His FIP this year is 2.66. More than 3 runs lower than his actual ERA. Shows you that he’s been a bit too ridiculous with giving up big innings, but he’s also been really unlucky.
Joba has given up 2 home runs all year. 2. From the way people talk about him on this blog you’d think he’s been as bad as Park this year.
If nothing else, this blog has an identity. The identity of course comes from the fact that it is filled with posters who cannot help but pat themselves on the backs constantly.
I am really rooting for Curtis and was all for making the trade but he looks totally lost at the plate. His at-bats are painful to watch.
# Macfan July 20th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
“# JobaTipsHisCap July 20th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I am pretty sure they will win tomorrow night.”
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Game is tomorrow afternoon, thankfully.
LOL, as long as they don’t play on My9, things should be better
Maybe the Yankees still haven’t recovered from CC’s party the other night?
Tigers couldn’t wait to get rid of Granderson, classic case of selling high…I would rather have Melky than Granderson…..
Well, I’ve never seen that before. You learn something knew everyday.
Good job, Miranda. Now, let’s keep it going, boys.
“# mick July 20th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Cashman is hanging on to the fantasy that Park, Gaudin, Joba will find themselves
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Park, Gaudin, Joba < Coke,Aceves , Hughes"
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And its not even close
Man amazing when Aceves would come into a game and 4 innings of scoreless baseball, those were the days.
# CR9 July 20th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Park isn’t that bad. It was Matsui that got him. Matsui is a professional hitter and even though was 0-8 against Park, probably was not a good matchup.
isn’t this ‘joba tips his cap’ attitude?
Miranda get’s his “hit of the month.” Super DH !
Had that been Gardner there, it would have been 8-3. I love Posada, but a speed demon he is not. Glad he got stopped at third.
If you know what I mean.
What does it matter what the bullpen has done? Hughes gave up 6 runs in this game after they gave him a 2-0 lead, he took them out of the game right when the opposing starter was starting to settle in. 2 runs on 3 hits, hard to win when you do that no matter how good your pitching is.
The Only thing I can say guys is
WE ARE STILL IN 1st PLACE and HAVE THE BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL
The less said about tonight’s game the better.
If you told me at the beginning of the year that Hughes would have the numbers he has right now at this point in the season I would have been extremely happy.
Some of you (one person especially) needs to grasp the idea of perspective.
This is Hughes’ first FULL year starting in the majors. Did you expect a 2.50 ERA all year? Did you expect under 5 losses?
Hughes is fine, he’s only going to get better. Cut the guy some slack and before you complain you might want to learn how baseball works. And study the history of young starting pitchers…. Lester, Buccholz, Price, ALL struggled their first year starting full time.
I use these 3 as examples because they did it in the AL east, by far the toughest division in baseball. What young starter HASN’T has SOME struggles early in their career?
They make Hughes “struggles” seem minor.
Seriously, get a clue.
# Betsy July 20th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Also, you call me obsessed? How about you? You can’t see ANY problems that Phil has – everything is sunshine and lollipops. If you aren’t concerned about his diminished K rates, his lack of command and his inconsistent curve, then you are a rare bird
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Betsy, I’ve got no beef at all with you. But I do want to say this. I don’t think the people who are disagreeing with you aren’t concerned. They just know that a hand full of starts don’t make a career. Nor a season. Yes, there is some cause for concern, but we shouldn’t go overboard. Hughes is a young pitcher who is going through a rough stretch. He’s experiencing a lot of growing pains still. He’ll get it figured out and be okay.
So, Miggs insults me, attacks me with every post (every poster here knows it) and I’m supposed to take it and respond? No thank you – the fact that you think I would respond to any of your posts after months of brutal posts attacking me shows how delusional you are.
Halladay throws a 4 seam fastball,2 seam sinking fastball,curve,cutter,change.
Hughes is going too have too throw more than just a fastball with an ocassional curve.
He has absolutely nothing else too go too if one or both are not working.He said so himself.
Batters are sitting on nothing but fasball & he has not made an adjustment.
Yes, we are in 1st place, best record in bball, i think, but some of the moves made have not panned out.
cash was clearly limited in what he could do…the George years are over. They have been for awhile now.
Going on 74 PA’s and 19 Games without a HR for Granderson
Betsy, its really tough to have a conversation with you when you consider being called “obsessed” an insult. Does that really insult you? How do you deal with actual insults in life?
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m borderline obsessed with Phil Hughes. There’s nothing wrong with it. I almost flat out cried when he was nearly traded for Santana, was irate when he was put back in the pen last year to begin with. Have loved following the guy since he burst onto the scene in 2005.
I won’t even bother directing you to my previous points because it seems that you don’t care about acknowledging them. If you took the time to read my post without claiming that I insulted you, you would understand why I’m not at all concerned about Phil. Not a lick.
# JobaTipsHisCap July 20th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
# Macfan July 20th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
“# JobaTipsHisCap July 20th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I am pretty sure they will win tomorrow night.”
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Game is tomorrow afternoon, thankfully.
LOL, as long as they don’t play on My9, things should be better
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LOL, between MY9 and Fox I would prefer the Yankees play 162 Games on YES only
B.T.W. MY9 is owned by Fox, figures.
This is the real miggs.
The imposter had a period after his screen name and has already been banned (thanks Chad).
.217 .270 .261 .531 In that span.
Whatever. As others have noted, Park is best suited for a one inning role. He pitched well last year in the bandbox Philly park. He can’t be that bad.
Lots of anger and resentment on here for some baseball talk, people need to stop taking things so personally.
Ok, one more:
Miggs, I know very well that young pitchers struggle. I never said Phil was going to be a crappy, #5 type pitcher – I said he’s got little command at this point and mediocre secondary pitches. Sorry, that’s the truth – does the truth hurt?
I think I want the trolls back…
Rays pen doing what they do. Cmon Birds
# 57ryank July 20th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Miranda get’s his “hit of the month.” Super DH !
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When I said this months ago I was laughed at.
Small sample size.
Well sample this: he’s a loser, get a real DH if you can afford it Cash…go ask Hal for some money.
Sorry Phil. Looks like the # 12 tribute will have to wait.
It’s good to try and find the positive on a bad night.
Well here’s mine.
Montero went 2 for 3 with 2 homers and 3 RBI’s. He’s hotter than a firecracker right now.
Hi Pat M. – “welcome back”….And, it’s a day game tomorrow, so it will be less than 24 hours. My sympathies about RalleyMonkeyville….But, you chose to live there
Choate helping the Yankee cause again. 8-7 Rays.
other than trisha and randy the whole gang showed up tonite….what a joy!
Your idea of “the truth” and actual reality don’t quite cross paths very often unfortunately.
I have tried to engage you in civilized baseball discussion and you get defensive, hurl insults, and dismiss me (just like you’ve done to mick, G-C, and others that have challenged Your ridiculous stances on certain issues).
“mick July 20th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Yes, we are in 1st place, best record in bball, i think, but some of the moves made have not panned out.”
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On no doubt it has been a scoundrels gallery of pitiful performers
Granderson – worst season of his career
Park – absolute flop
Johnson – Glassman extraordinaire
Winn – was given his marching orders
Cash came up snake eyes on quite a few moves this offseason
The Vazquez one has turned for the better, but that has been about it.
Rob, please point out to me where I said Phil has no future; where I said that he was going to be an overrated bust forever.
GC, um yeah – being called paranoid and obsessive is an insult. If you had been here in 2008, you would have seen that the idea of trading Phil was killing me………so we’re in the same boat there.
Is your point that Phil will be an ace because other pitchers have struggled before him? I don’t buy it – maybe he will and maybe he won’t. The fact that you simply can not acknowledge that Phil has things to work on is beyond me, but ok.
This game’s on me.
Came in from the airport and ordered a burger in the 1st inning.
Totally against protocol. Just a dumb choice on my part. Sorry.
CHOP is in the role made for him…Mop Up.
So anyone here think the Yankees mount a big comeback?
I didn’t think so.
http://www.maylin.net/Fireworks.html
Montero !
# CR9 July 20th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Whatever. As others have noted, Park is best suited for a one inning role. He pitched well last year in the bandbox Philly park. He can’t be that bad.
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I had high expectation on Park early on, now I think I put my trust on the wrong guy.
Hughes’ command was off tonight just like every other pitcher alive has nights where their command is off.
He pitched great his last time out and overall this year has been exceptional (again just my opinion).
I see greatness in his future. But to think there won’t be bumps in the road on the way there is to not look at things realistically.
I’m not as panicked about the bullpen as most people are. I don’t want Cashman to make a move for a marginal reliever at the deadline because those deals are almost always giant failures in this town.
I think Joba and D-Rob will settle down as an effective bridge to Mo. The role I want to see Cash potentially start throwing darts at a wall for is Park’s. No, he really doesn’t ever look all that bad. But I think its time for a breath of fresh air in that spot.
I’d be interested to see if Kontos can make an impact if they accelerate him a bit. It looks like they want to keep Nova stretched out for the sake of his development and a “just in case” situation, but if crap really hits the fan they can always slide Gaudin in for a couple of starts. I’m curious to what he would do if he could air it out in short relief.
Can’t you all just watch and comment on the game?
Hey – it’s Faux-Rod!!
Chan Ho Park folks
The worlds first righty relief specialist
I just looked up his numbers and why would someone allow this guy to face a lefty hitter
Look at the numbers vs lefties.
.364 AVG, .397 OBP, .636 SLG, 1.033 OPS
OMG, absolutely hideous
The shocking part is he has faced a lefty 55 times, did the Yankees not get the memo, he cannot get lefties out.
Righties are hitting .219 AVG, .275 OBP, .391 SLG, .666 OPS in 64 AB
never let Park face a lefty at all. No wonder Matsui took him deep.
You looked into the abyss and ordered a burger?
That’s just great.
Miggs, maybe you have, but why should I have any conversations with you? I remember all of those posts you made in reply to my own – mean, vicious posts – all because you don’t like me or my posts. I’m supposed to forget all that? I don’t think so – if you think that I should, then I’m sorry, but you ask a lot of me.
Love that story about O’Neill taking a cab to the Plaza after the ’96 WS and being handed a newspaper with the headline “World Champs”. Gotta figure there are very few people in the world that have that great a memory in the bank.
Jerkface, averages can be misleading. i’d be fine with a 92 average if he could occasionally reach back for a 94,95, or 96 mph pitch. he couldn’t do that tonight. i don’t think he even hit 94 once. when he has mediocre stuff like he did tonight, he has to hit corners, and he simply couldn’t do it.
How can this Francisco Rodriguez even see with that hat pulled down so low?
The Vazquez one has turned for the better, but that has been about it.
don’t go counting on vazquez just yet, lets wait until he faces the rays or redsox or rangers – and then the playoffs – before we go singing his praises. But i’ll give you that right now he is the 3rd best starter they have after cc and andy.
Tonight was a must-see blog night for sure.
Cameos by miggs and impostor.
Betsy makes a “surprising” reappearance.
Even CR9 graced us.
What more can one ask for?
Trish and Randy?
Oh by the way, Miggs – I have every reason to ignore Mick most of the time. He insulted my parents recently and I won’t forgive that – ever. He’s attacked me almost as many times as you have yet YOU think I should turn the other cheek. How convenient…..Why don’t you go back and read some of your posts to me and then get back and explain why I’m supposed to forget about that?
G-C -
I have absolutely no attachment to CHoP. Wouldn’t give it a second thought if he was cut. He’s had some good innings, but mostly, been – well, I’d say a disappointment, but I didn’t really have huge expectations in the first place.
If Albaladejo could stick that’d be good, but they really need some who can go 2 innings I guess. Albaladejo was okay tonight, but works very, very slowly.
Bronx Jeers – so you blew this game but I too am to blame. Every time I breathe when jeter is batting he grounds to 2nd or short.
Betsy—
Enough already.
# Betsy July 20th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Oh by the way, Miggs – I have every reason to ignore Mick most of the time. He insulted my parents recently and I won’t forgive that – ever. He’s attacked me almost as many times as you have yet YOU think I should turn the other cheek. How convenient…..Why don’t you go back and read some of your posts to me and then get back and explain why I’m supposed to forget about that?
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Are you calling me out Betsy?
And we haven’t had any words tonight, what nerve!
“Betsy—
Enough already.”
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It’s unreal. My God. On and on and on and on and on….
# TheStraw July 20th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Betsy—
Enough already.
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AMEN.
# mick July 20th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Tonight was a must-see blog night for sure.
Cameos by miggs and impostor.
Betsy makes a “surprising” reappearance.
Even CR9 graced us.
What more can one ask for?
Trish and Randy?
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Hey, I gave you fireworks ! Just above
No reaction to my “Faux-Rod” comment. I know it wasn’t that good, but, still…
“Bronx Jeers – so you blew this game but I too am to blame. Every time I breathe when jeter is batting he grounds to 2nd or short.”
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I could have sworn it was my blinking.
Gotta give Cashman a Mulligan this year after nailing CC, Teix and Burnett (say what you want he did the job in the playoffs) last year to guarantee a championship. He bombed this year but they are still the best team in baseball so lets see how this season plays out – baseball, unlike life, is full of 2nd acts. (apologies to F. Scott)
mick
you’re a funny guy. As for this game, the game is looking bleak now, but it’s just one game, rays could still lose.
“Enough already”
Yes please; either address the points/opinions or ignore the poster.
Come on Alex, pretend that you are miles away from any big number HR…. please
i dont have YES so i rarely watch YES games, so let me ask…is O’Neil considered good? I have enjoyed him tonight.
Brignac hits a homer….9-7 Rays
Hey! I’ll take a single over an out!
a blast here and we got a game.
He’s attacked me almost as many times as you have
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Almost?
I thought I led the league in insults of Betsy.
Can’t we call it “constructive criticism?”
Nope. You can’t handle the truth.
“# Cashman needs to go July 20th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
The Vazquez one has turned for the better, but that has been about it.
don’t go counting on vazquez just yet, lets wait until he faces the rays or redsox or rangers – and then the playoffs – before we go singing his praises. But i’ll give you that right now he is the 3rd best starter they have after cc and andy.”
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Oh I don’t doubt he might drop turds on himself in big games, but just being fair to him he has turned things around.
Will that translate in key games down the stretch and the playoffs, we shall see.
Someone needs to slap Burnett across the face and tell him its about time he started being reliable to give consistent quality starts instead of pies and punching objects.
Disco,
Love the games Paulie does….Especially when he’s paired with Singleton. Unfortunately O’Neill does not do that many games.
“Is your point that Phil will be an ace because other pitchers have struggled before him? I don?t buy it ? maybe he will and maybe he won?t. The fact that you simply can not acknowledge that Phil has things to work on is beyond me, but ok.”
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He has things to work on. Most pitchers do. Not just young pitchers too. Andy Pettitte is still learning on the job and he’s won over 200 big league games.
I don’t disagree with you completely. Just keep things in perspective. David Price had a 4.50 ERA last year and started the All Star game this year. Lincecum’s ERA in his first season was up near 4.
8-5 in two pitches
going back to granderson – wasn’t one of the reasons he fell out of favor in detroit was all his work outside of baseball. looks like he’s doing the same here with his blog on yahoo, he was just appointed to some cause that michelle obama is running – kind of spreads himself too thin with outside activities when his main focus should be playing baseball.
if george were here i think he’d say something to the effect that he pays grandy’s salary not yahoo or michelle obama
CR9 July 20th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
mick
you’re a funny guy.
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Nick doesn’t think so.
I consider O’Neil very entertaining. He’s one of my favorites on YES
The pen inconsistency really hammers home how valuable Aceves is and how much this team misses him. I, too, would like to see the problem fixed without sacrificing prospects. Give some of the kids a chance– Albo, Nova ( did I just reference an 80′s rock group?) Sanchez. Hell, give Royce Ring a shot.
“i dont have YES so i rarely watch YES games, so let me ask…is O’Neil considered good? I have enjoyed him tonight.”
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I find him charming enough. He doesn’t provide much in the way of analysis, statistical or otherwise, but I find him funny and his anecdotes can be quite interesting. Compared to Kay, he’s brilliant.
CA – NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Drat.
# Jim July 20th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Gotta give Cashman a Mulligan this year after nailing CC, Teix and Burnett (say what you want he did the job in the playoffs) last year to guarantee a championship. He bombed this year but they are still the best team in baseball so lets see how this season plays out – baseball, unlike life, is full of 2nd acts. (apologies to F. Scott)
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It would be interesting to go back to this time last season and see what people were saying about the pick up of Burnett. I bet Cashman was getting blasted all last season for signing him. Until he came up huge in game 2 of the World Series.
Who knows? Maybe Granderson will be a playoff hero for us this season? Maybe CHOP will come into a game with the bases loaded and get out of it like Robertson did last season?
Okay, so that last one is a stretch, but you get the idea.
“# Cashman needs to go July 20th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
going back to granderson – wasn’t one of the reasons he fell out of favor in detroit was all his work outside of baseball. looks like he’s doing the same here with his blog on yahoo, he was just appointed to some cause that michelle obama is running – kind of spreads himself too thin with outside activities when his main focus should be playing baseball.
if george were here i think he’d say something to the effect that he pays grandy’s salary not yahoo or michelle obama”
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But he has a great smile, Say Cheese.
Too bad smiles don’t get base hits and RBI’s and million dollar contracts.
More like I ordered the burger and Phil fell into the abyss.
It wasn’t even that good. Now I’m banning myself from burgers until Phil wins 3 more games.
Get off the blog Betsy.
You belong in the back of a dumpster.
Get off the blog Betsy.
Go back to your parents womb.
The Angels are rapidly becoming my least favorite team
GC – I agree – I never said Phil was going to flame out.
Right now the Yankees are going to have to live with his growing pains………
Jim – this is why most Gm’s think cashman is kind of a joke. Sure, he bagged tex and cc and burnett last year and we won us a world series. He gave them Ny City, the NY Yankees, and more money than anyone else was able to give them. Is that talent? When it comes to trades and making small but productive free agent signings, Cashman has repeatedly dropped the ball. I don’t care because we are still the best team in baseball, but Cashmans offseason looks an awful lot like Burnetts June or Tex’s April. Awful. He got absolutely robbed in the Granderson deal. Totally taken to the cleaners. He gave up a guy who is better than curtis now (jackson) who costs nothing. He gave up a productive starter and he gave up a legitimate lefty reliever. Literally one of the worst trades one can make.
Cash bought low on Granderson, and is getting exactly what he purchased.
Unlike Swisher, who showed his 2008 was an abberation, Granderson is showing that 2009 for him was merely the start of a downward trend. Now 1.5 years of below average play for him.
O’Neill is OK, but he is better in small doses. He would get tiresome if he was on more.
The good news is, just seven more games after this one and I’ll be able to figure out our winnings percentage in my head.
There has got to be a reason why so many Yankee fans are down on this team even though they are in 1st place.
When you dismantle a WS Champion, you are taking a great risk of failure.
If they had 2 or 3 more losses or were 2-3 games back would the criticism have more validity?
Yanks lineup shut down again by some no-name pitcher. They’ve been doing it all season long. Might as well be on a night Hughes soils all over himself.
“Rob B July 20th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
It would be interesting to go back to this time last season and see what people were saying about the pick up of Burnett. I bet Cashman was getting blasted all last season for signing him. Until he came up huge in game 2 of the World Series.”
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Actually Burnett had very good peripherals last seaosn, its just his W-L was nothing special
But he gave up less hits than innings pitched, close to a strikeout an inning and a lower WHIP and ERA than what he is doing to date this season.
This season his K’s are down, his ERA and WHIP is higher and he is giving up more than a hit per inning.
Jerkface, averages can be misleading. i’d be fine with a 92 average if he could occasionally reach back for a 94,95, or 96 mph pitch. he couldn’t do that tonight. i don’t think he even hit 94 once.
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He hit 94.5. And 94 multiple times.
“I have absolutely no attachment to CHoP. Wouldn?t give it a second thought if he was cut. He?s had some good innings, but mostly, been ? well, I?d say a disappointment, but I didn?t really have huge expectations in the first place.
If Albaladejo could stick that?d be good, but they really need some who can go 2 innings I guess. Albaladejo was okay tonight, but works very, very slowly.”
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Doreen, pretty much agreed. I think Alby can be useful when used the right way. His arsenal makes him a bit vulnerable to lefties. But I believe in guys getting chances when they earn their shot and he’s certainly done that.
In regards to the multi inning thing, this is another reason why I’m still livid that Chamberlain has been cast in this strict “eighth inning role.” The fact that he might not even pitch 70 innings this year is really insane. Remember how nice it was in 2007 when he himself was a multi inning guy, even with the Joba rules being in place.
By completely stripping Joba of any belief that he can be a starter this organization has relegated him to a very, very narrow role that has had less importance to this organization historically than one may think. Mike Stanton was AWESOME in big spots- almost as good as Rivera, and he still gets overlooked for whatever reason- but he was never considered a shutdown “eighth inning guy.” He was used in high leverage spots as needed, sometimes for multiple innings. His performance in Game 5 of the 2000 ALDS, I believe, was a 3 inning outing, and it saved us from elimination after another one of Pettitte’s simply dreadful postseason outings.
etsy is a piece of trash July 20th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Get off the blog Betsy.
You belong in the back of a dumpster.
Get off the blog Betsy.
Go back to your parents womb.
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Miggs?
But he has a great smile, Say Cheese.
Too bad smiles don?t get base hits and RBI?s and million dollar contracts.
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full disclosure i actually liked the trade when it first happened – but at this point if they can trade him i’d get him the hell out of here and go get crawford next year- can you imagine gardner and crawford hitting #1 and 2 next year
“Get off the blog Betsy.
You belong in the back of a dumpster.
Get off the blog Betsy.
Go back to your parents womb.”
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Wow! 825 hits. Just like old times.
Just ignore her guys, and hopefully she will go away
“# Cashman needs to go July 20th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
But he has a great smile, Say Cheese.
Too bad smiles don?t get base hits and RBI?s and million dollar contracts.
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full disclosure i actually liked the trade when it first happened – but at this point if they can trade him i’d get him the hell out of here and go get crawford next year- can you imagine gardner and crawford hitting #1 and 2 next year”
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Funny thing is he has escaped much criticism or scrutiny or boos.
Just ignore her guys, and hopefully she will go away
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She goes away.
But always comes back.
Granderson seems like a decent guy, but I don’t like his batting.
I wouldn’t call him a total bust just yet. Long seems to take a while to get the players swing tuned in, Granderson has a lot of movement, just like Swisher did, it takes a lot of work to get the batters to change from what they have been doing for a while.
It would be nice to see SOME improvement though.
I think the registration here on LoHud is the jinx.
Let’s see if it trends…
CHoPnis is infuriatingly bad, but Gaudin is just pure sewage this year.
I haven’t posted on here in months, I’ve been really busy with work and other things.
So whoever was “insulting you” it wasn’t me.
Now that we have registration that won’t be a problem anymore.
I just came on to register earlier, saw someone had taken my name already, emailed Chad, got it fixed, posted a quick comment. Then I saw that person had re-registered using my name with a period, had to email Chad to get THAT fixed, then posted some more.
I try and get on here but I’m just so freakin’ busy these days its tough. I read all the posts and a lot of the comments. More often than not I just don’t have time to jump in and comment myself.
mick
The reason is simple – Cash toyed around too much with the team. Bringing in guys who have done nothing like Grandy, NJ, Winn, Park, etc.
Actually, his best acquisition is Vazquez because he is our #2 starter now and if he falls off a cliff now, then we are really screwed.
All in all though, the criticisms of the team are valid… people are talking about us being in 1st place in mid-July as some lock that we’re going to win it all and have no issues… basically, what we used to mock Red Sox fans for doing, being the Kings of July.
“# WMD July 20th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Yanks lineup shut down again by some no-name pitcher. They’ve been doing it all season long. Might as well be on a night Hughes soils all over himself.”
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LOL, this one was ugly tonight, thankfully the game is an early one tomorrow, lets hope the Yanks aren’t still sleeping then as well.
Gaudin is actually impressive with his ineptitude.
Here comes the coup de grace.
can you imagine gardner and crawford hitting #1 and 2 next year
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That would be pretty sweet.
And now we get to see Matsui Godzilla Go Dan. Yippee.
and gaudin doing his best attempt at having chan ho park keep his job
Goodbye Betsy
I will not cry for you
Goodbye Betsy
You are posts are like poo-poo
gaudin and chop wont be here much longer…
SUX already up 1-0
If hughes can develope offspeed pitches he is going too be filthy.
He is pitching basically all fastballs against the best hitters on the planet.
Can’t wait.
“# TheStraw July 20th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
CHoPnis is infuriatingly bad, but Gaudin is just pure sewage this year.”
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LOL, the secret is out, Cashman thinks they will actually improve on their own and somehow miraculously pitch better.
I will be stunned if both of these guys are still here when Mitre is activated.
“She goes away.
But always comes back.”
I know… it sucks but we just have to live with it. The hiatus was a very peaceful time here…
# Betsy is a piece of trash July 20th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Goodbye Betsy
I will not cry for you
Goodbye Betsy
You are posts are like poo-poo
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Who needs impostors?
Matsui did him a favor there.
Is there an Oriole comeback against Sori?
WMD -
I kind of agree – would everyone feel any better if they lost 3-2?
(Well, I guess if Hughes pitched well, that would be a good thing, of course, but it would be a wasted good performance, so that would be a bad thing.)
I was expecting a GS from Matsui there. Whew.
Damn, this bullpen sucks. So much dead weight— Park, Gaudin, Logan, Joba, Mosely, etc.
So much for the new improved Albaladejo too, eh?
“Jim ? this is why most Gm?s think cashman is kind of a joke”
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Carlo, this post is why I’m inclined to take you as a joke.
Cashman is universally regarded throughout baseball as a top five GM in the game. With Beane and Epstein looking less than terrific lately, he would likely get a lot of votes within baseball as the best.
“Jim ? this is why most Gm?s think cashman is kind of a joke”
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Carlo, this post is why I’m inclined to take you as a joke.
Cashman is universally regarded throughout baseball as a top five GM in the game. With Beane and Epstein looking less than terrific lately, he would likely get a lot of votes within baseball as the best.
Okay I’m off, I’ve tortured myself long enough tonight with this game.
Hoping they might rally.
Funny thing is he has escaped much criticism or scrutiny or boos
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winning tends to make people forget alot of things – if the yankees were in 3rd place i’m sure we’d hear alot more criticism and boos – hopefuuly this won’t happen but if the yankees start sliding a bit and find themselves 3 games out by the end of july i think granderson (and to some extent jeter if he continues what he’s doing) will start hearing some grumblings
I know winning hides all the negatives, and losing brings them out.
But Gaudin, Park, Mosely suck, and really need to go.
Granderson may be a HR off the field, but he is terrible on the field.
I do remember Granderson was the biggest reason why the Yankees lost the Division series to the Tigers in 2006 and he’s been sporadic this year but his hit have come at clutch moments so I’m hoping he’s going to pull a Marte this year.
I find myself pining for Mitre.
Is that healthy?
Scranton called they want their bullpen back……
blech…gaudin. i hope hes not around much longer.
Go-gone.
rays and orioles all tied up
Birds did it
There’s got to be a better pitcher out there somewhere, waiver or Minors, that’s better than Gaudin. Yet Cashman refuses to DFA the guy.
Maybe we can make a play for Moyer ! LMAO !!!
Orioles just tied the game against the Rays in the 9th. At least they showed up today.
I think I have had enough of Curtis Dandruffson
Well, at least the O’s tied things up.
I’m impressed with the fight the Orioles have put up against the Rays and Red Sox this year
Probably healthier than actually getting Mitre.
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There’s got to be more to the Joba story than we’ll ever be privy to, I think.
Although, if they really thought that he could be a shut-down closer type, and they really were grooming him to follow Mariano, that might make some sense.
It’s difficult anymore to figure out that situation. I just hope for the best. Perhaps if Joba does some serious off-season work, things can change? I really don’t know anymore.
Hey – let’s go O’s!!!
Carlo, if you think about it, Cashman sold CC on coming to NY when he was pretty much dead set against it and wanted to go to the west coast. Compare that to Donnie Walsh absolutely failing at seducing Lebron James into playing in the only place he belongs – MSG. How does one pass up an opportunity to win in NY? If I were Donnie Walsh I would have been parading ever FA of the last 20 years who came to NY and won and have the explain to Lebron what it has done for their career and legacy. I doubt he did any of that. But of course the Yankees still trot out Reggie and his 2 WS ring (to go with his 3 ignored rings from Oakand) as the chief calling card proof that winning in NY is worth 100 championships in Cleveland – or Miami.
# Captain Clutch July 20th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Scranton called they want their bullpen back……
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Sure it was Scranton? I was thinking somewhere a bit lower. lol.
Doreen,
Doesn’t get any easier tomorrow with Pineiro – shut down Yanks last time and 7-0 in last 8 starts.
G-C, the differencve between you and I is that I couldn’t care less about what u think of me. so u are wasting ur time trying to tell me.
Oh, Colter Bean, where are you when we need you?
At least the Yankees seem to always bounce back with a win after these blowout losses
Does Granderson ever get ahead in a count?
I’m shocked, Granderson out!
Heck, I forgot Curtis ( Colin) was still here. The way he swings the bat, I’d rather have him anytime over Miranda or Thames
Grandy Dandy!
Juan gone is up again !
Curtis Damnson
Curtis Dandruffson
Curtis Damntheywon
Curtis Canthitnone
Curtis ManImDone
Cashman is universally regarded throughout baseball as a top five GM in the game. With Beane and Epstein looking less than terrific lately, he would likely get a lot of votes within baseball as the best
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i’m obviously biased so take this for whats its worth but people probably say that because they know they may have to one day ask the yankees (and cashman) for a job so why burn that bridge..
and theo has won 2 rings (or 1 more than cashman) the last 10 years and even this year which was a rebuilding year for the redsox he’s kept that team contending with the hundreds of injuries they’vd faced
Sorry to sound so much like Matt with my previous comment.
Jim – u answered ur own question. Yes, cashman got CC here despite him possibly being honest about wanting to stay on the west coast. But, as u said, why wouldn’t one want to come to win in NY? Add a few extra numbers to the paycheck and I will take “cashmans role” in those discussions as being fairly benign.
As bad as they’ve played, whenever they’ve hit a ball hard, it’s gone right to someone.
When they Yankees have bad games, they seem to be bad all around.
Cashman is great.
I don’t get how you people expect him to have a crystal ball. Does he make mistakes? Yes.. but we all do.. We’ve made it to the playoffs/ws how many times since cashman has been the GM?
Wow.. find another scapegoat.. Cash ain’t him.
# Doreen July 20th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
As bad as they’ve played, whenever they’ve hit a ball hard, it’s gone right to someone.
When they Yankees have bad games, they seem to be bad all around.
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Kinda the way they’ve played against Angels for a few years.
Pena, put this game out of our misery.
Say what you want about Cashman…but is he ever going to make the bullpen a priority??? Last year the bullpen really struggled so you would think he would address it this off season, and his biggest move was Park. That tells you all you need to know. Give him credit with CC and Tex but has done a really bad job with the bullpen.
I don’t understand with a pinch runner on second, no outs, how the o’s don’t bunt over to third then go for the fly ball win.
You can always count on Pena.
Cashman fought against giving up the farm for Santana. That created the room that brought Sabathia to NY, along with Burnett. And if Hughes had been traded for Santana, who would have stepped in last season when we needed a guy to take hold of the 8th inning role?
And he practically stole Swisher from Chicago.
Cashman certainly deserves blame for his busts, but he doesn’t get any where near the credit he deserves for his successes. Everybody just wants to chalk it up to having an “unlimited checkbook”. Yes, the money certainly makes things easier, but if it was just about money, the Mets would be in the playoffs every year.
# Yogi Mantle July 20th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Pena, put this game out of our misery.
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He did !
No In-n-Out tonight Nick in SF……..Off to 24 hour fitness……Later, bummer night
Last year’s bullpen was a strength.
really is there any reason for gaudin to be here on thursday???NO..
watching him pitch is painful he sucks Park sucks but he is better then Gaudain….
granderson is as hopeless at the plate as Jeter is…dreadful performance…
if gaudin is here at the end of the week they are insane…….
Isn’t Piniero better than O’Sullivan ?
“Say what you want about Cashman?but is he ever going to make the bullpen a priority??? Last year the bullpen really struggled so you would think he would address it this off season, and his biggest move was Park. That tells you all you need to know. Give him credit with CC and Tex but has done a really bad job with the bullpen.”
Relievers are fungible. You don’t address bullpens by acquiring guys in the offseason. Precisely why the Park addition and every bullpen addition this team has made since Gordon has failed.
Unless you can get an absolute lockdown, shutdown guy, its better to do things from within. Joba and Robertson have, save some rough spots, actually pitched quite well this year.
The pen really is fine. It hasn’t performed to expectations but it looked like the best bullpen in baseball on paper before the season started.
Rivera
Chamberlain
Aceves
Robertson
Marte
What else would you have done with that pen before the season started, given the previous track records of those guys?
pen is no good.
The Cash moves this year looked great on paper. Sometimes things don’t pan out as expected. Who knows how much Granderson’s early injury may have screwed him up. Everyone knew Johnson was a risk, but the upside was good had he stayed healthy. Park’s slump is puzzling but may be due to changing leagues. Damon may be the most questionable move, but given Boras’s demands, his hands were tied. So he gets a pass from me. Let’s see how he now does with the next batch of in- season moves.
U R right G-C ! It just hasn’t worked out ! It’s a sport called baseball.
Tough night for mound boy out in Oakland.
Mr. 209 not showing any love!
at July 20th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Tough night for mound boy out in Oakland.
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Sometimes you get lucky ! He sure did !
All I can say is…I disagree with the people who merely want to tweak this team.
The talk now is that Tampa could add Prince Fielder.
P – he doesn’t need to have a crystal ball – but signing nick johnson to a $5.5 million contract was as dumb as you can get – no one was signing chan ho park and he goes and gives him a million dollars, randy winn come on,
the bullpen is horrible, they have no bench – its not just one or two minor things – they have alot of holes – and yes they have the best record in baseball but they also have the highest payroll – so you would think that extra 50 million dollars that they are shelling out should buy you a few more wins than the royals and astros and pirates
and the reason the yankees have been so successful the last 12 years has been the core four and especially rivera – where would the yankees have been without rivera the last 12 years cashman had nothing to do with signing them- hell cashman was dead set on not resigning arod when he opted out – would the yankees have won the WS lastyear without arod? hank steinbrenner of all people should be thanked for the yankees winning the ws last year.
Girardi alluded to the fact that the bullpen not only has had trouble holding leads… but like tonight, they simply kill any chance of us coming back with their tack on runs. They simply cannot pitch 1-2-3 innings.
A 4 run deficit turns into an 8 run deficit. That is as big a problem as holding leads. It’s also why out comeback numbers are down… last year’s pen was great at holding the game where it was. This year, they push it out of hand every chance they get
The pen sucks this year because Aceves was the MVP of the Yankees last year. He was a workhorse. A guy like Ace is the unheralded cornerstone of every championship team.
New thread
I was all for getting Cliff Lee, not simply tweaking the team. But there are not many difference makers like him out there. Fielder is not one of them, and I wonder if or what talent the Rays would part with to get him.
IIOIIOIIO July 20th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
This Betsy seems like a really unpleasant individual. Kinda like if my Grandmother decided to comment. I think you’re being a little sensitive to this perceived criticism, it’s only baseball talk
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Ding ding ding – we have a winner.
I’d take the trolls coming back as long as Betsy goes away and we don’t have to listen to her incessant whining.