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Happy birthday CC Sabathia

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CC Sabathia turned 30 today. He got there with 148 wins and 1,700 strikeouts. According to the Yankees, the last pitcher to have so many wins before his 30th birthday was Greg Maddux who won 151 games in his first 30 years. The last pitcher with that many strikeouts was Pedro Martinez, who had 1,981 at age 30.

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370 Responses to “Happy birthday CC Sabathia”

  1. Carl July 21st, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Happy B-day CC

  2. Robby Cano Dontcha Know July 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    1,7000 strikeouts?

  3. Chad Jennings July 21st, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Yes. 1,7000. The dude has been CRAZY good!

  4. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    3 of 4 from KC ? :)

  5. HectorSpencer July 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Man, Pedro was sick.

  6. Carl July 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    1,700 on the head. Crazy.

  7. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    “Pedro was sick.”

    Guess so, because he thought the Yankees were his Daddy. :)

  8. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    We’ve got a pitching advantage in just about every game in this upcoming series.

    No Greinke to deal with.

    If we hit the ball well we should take at least 3 of 4.

    Have a good night everyone. :)

  9. Disco July 21st, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    HectorSpencer July 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Man, Pedro was sick
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    Arguably the best of all-time.

    I give that designation to Johnson Clemens since they pitched a lot longer…but in terms of straight numbers Pedro was A-MAZ-ING.

  10. JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Sweep KC.

    Girardi was pretty happy with Joba Chamberlain. “He did what he had to do,”
    ugh? Joe’s standard is pretty low.

    Javy is going back to him old losing form.

  11. The Iron Horse July 21st, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Celebrate that bday with a good nights sleep and a big win tmrw night ceece

  12. Nick in SF July 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    CC and my mom have the same birthday.

  13. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    A bad couple of innings doesn’t mean Vazquez is going “back to his old losing form.”

    The guy has pitched as well as any Yankee starter the last 2-1/2 months and did outpitch King Felix for 7 IP in his last start.

  14. Carl July 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    # JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Sweep KC.

    Girardi was pretty happy with Joba Chamberlain. “He did what he had to do,”
    ugh? Joe’s standard is pretty low.

    Javy is going back to him old losing form.

    Back to him old losing form? what?

  15. Bronx Jeers July 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Jeez those numbers are impressive.

    Kind of on the path to a HOF caliber career.

  16. LordD99 July 21st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Catfish Hunter won his 200th game the year he turned 30. Seemed to have an excellent shot at 300. Unfortunately he “only” won 224 as his arm was basically shot by the time he was 30. The previous year, 1975, he pitched over 300 innings while completing 30 games, becoming the first pitcher since, I believe, Bob Feller did the same thing nearly 30 years previously in 1946. No pitcher did it in between those years, and no pitcher has done it since. Good thing. Both Hunter and Feller were never the same after those seasons. I know a lot of the old-time pitchers think pitchers are too babied. I think the truth is somewhere in between. Starting pitchers can be pushed further than they are today, but we should never go back to the abuse some of these guys suffered.

    Not sure what that has to do with CC beyond he’s a great pitcher and seems to be getting better. I think he has a shot at 300.

  17. 98NYY July 21st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    A past post mentioned the difficulty of bringing Montero up due to the 40 man roster. Ahead of him and eligible for the rule 5 draft was Laird…who is tearing it up in double AA. If that is true it would be better to add his bat not only to the 40 man roster but to the big club and send Pena down.

  18. Erica in NY July 21st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Nick in SF July 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    CC and my mom have the same birthday.
    **********

    Happy Birthday to Nick in SF’s Mommy!

  19. Carl July 21st, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....10382.html

    A lot of Montero love in this chat.

  20. Erica in NY July 21st, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    We had a mini-5 minute blackout a little while ago

    It was total darkness just long enough to seriously scare the crap out of me.

    Of course the lights went back on as soon as I located my flashlight

  21. JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    # Carl July 21st, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    # JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Sweep KC.

    Girardi was pretty happy with Joba Chamberlain. “He did what he had to do,”
    ugh? Joe’s standard is pretty low.

    Javy is going back to him old losing form.

    Back to him old losing form? what?

    typo, his old losing….

  22. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Can’t send Pena down if there’s nobody else to play SS behind Jeter.

    Russo would be a stretch but he’s now back in Scranton.

  23. Nick in SF July 21st, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Thank you, Erica.

    I know she’ll be excited when I tell her about CC.

  24. JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    LAA is only 5 games above .500, they should miss playoff.

  25. Carl July 21st, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap

    Just a bad game.

  26. Erica in NY July 21st, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Good night Yankee people!

  27. Nick in SF July 21st, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Goodnight, Erica.

    /John-Boy’d

  28. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    Is CC faking pregnancy so he can fool Amber into thinking it’s hers?

  29. Nick in SF July 21st, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    Please don’t make fat jokes; betrayal from the fan base might encourage CC to opt out.

    /The Mad Prince of Pinstripes’d

  30. Mike_Boston July 21st, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    “a light version of Miggy Cabrera” in reference to Montero’s potential for hitting from Baseball America chat…Sounds damn good with me.

  31. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Hopefully a lighter version, too. Miggy has slimmed down a bit, but he was a big boy before.

    8 GB in the loss column. Is that a lot? :P

    Still plenty baseball left, that’s only like a game a week that they need to make up.

    But, I think we can hang on. ;)

  32. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    My sister had a baby girl today :)

  33. pat July 21st, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    PR photos from CC’s birthday party. Click the thumbnail pics on top to open a gallery with more Yankees and others.

    http://guestofaguest.com/event.....gga-style/

  34. goyanks27ws July 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    RIP Ralph Houk.

  35. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    So, yeah. If you were a pitcher and had asked to be traded, would you demand that your $16M option for 2012 be picked up? Or would you just keep your mouth shut and go to a contender?

  36. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Congratulations, Uncle Bret (with 1 ‘t’)!

  37. pat July 21st, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Bret-
    Congratulations to your family on the new addition

  38. Nick in SF July 21st, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Bret, congrats.

    Baby Joakima?

  39. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    pat,

    Thanks for those pix. Is Coles a tranny? And is that Constantine? Never mind. Clicked on the alex mora link below and there’s more pix. Gardner looks like he has a little ‘hawk.

    http://guestofaguest.com/galle.....elbration/

    Betsy,

    You’ll enjoy the one of Phil. Looks like he just got back from The Open!

  40. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    Oh, and dang! Thames has a young companion. And AJ’s wife got something new and improved for Christmas?

  41. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    And Leigh Teixeira’s expecting. Looks like she’s about 7 months? What do the mothers her think? :P

  42. antisocial scrooge July 21st, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    is gardy short or is that lady tall?

  43. Disco July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    how out of place is andy and his wife at that club?

  44. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    I don’t know. But Andy and his wife look like high school sweethearts. It’s weally sweet. :)

    pat,

    Did you notice Phil’s shirt?!

  45. Disco July 21st, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    I also just want to point out that Gardner looks exactly like the dood who works at the local Vitamin Shoppe.

    Actually, it’s freaking me out. I’m quite perturbed. They are exactly the same.

  46. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    Thanks everyone! We’re really happy. My mom especially because she always wanted a grand daughter.

    Her name is Sloane.

    She got a visit from her big brother in the hospital today and he gave her a kiss, played with his trucks, then he requested an exit.

  47. pat July 21st, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    m

    Catty hour!

    I’m not sure who or what a Coles is.

    Mrs. AJ looks like she’s been hanging out with Mrs. Jorge.

    Mrs. Tex is infanticipating and 7 months is a good guess.

    Did you see my note the other day about how I found THE store and Tex is the now pimping for them?

  48. m July 21st, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    pat,

    lol. Last one, last one. I promise. I can’t figure out if that lady reporter is invading Joba’s personal bubble or if it’s the other way around. Looks like she’s trying to use her middle finger to peek at Joba’s chest tat.

    And I didn’t see your post. Please tell. :)

  49. pat July 21st, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    m

    I meant I was going catty, no you.

    Here’s my final one. Is Cisco dating Cheryl Ladd?

    http://www.mfeenz.com/

  50. Bronx Jeers July 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 am

    I do believe that is Thames wife.

    And either Cisco showed up with his mom or he is some serious cougar prey!

  51. pat July 22nd, 2010 at 12:04 am

    m

    Tex is the new spokesperson/spokesmodel for Hart Shaffner and Marx Clothing and look what they sell there-

    http://www.hartschaffnermarx.c.....pt_id=1013

    For $22.25, everyone on the team probably has one.

  52. Nick in SF July 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 am

    She’s the underbelly of PFOFism.

  53. Bronx Jeers July 22nd, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Prehistoric Friends of Francisco?

  54. Nick in SF July 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Well done.

    I mean, the joke.

  55. Rich in NJ July 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Sloane Peterson?

    Congrats, Bret.

  56. backbench July 22nd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Any idea if Cuban’s injecting himself into the Ranger’s bankruptcy will make it impossible for the team to sign Lee in the off season? Or will MLB require the NYYs to finance it for them?

    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....or00000002

  57. backbench July 22nd, 2010 at 12:23 am

    And from the sad news department:

    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....r-kidnapp/

  58. Rich in NJ July 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 am

    How old is Tabata?

  59. just_another_handle July 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Ralph Houk passed on. Won 2 world series titles as manager of the Yankees.

  60. theREALkevin July 22nd, 2010 at 1:07 am

    please no Russo

    good win today, Curtis has been a pleasant surprise, it was evident right away the guy could handle the bat some and he proved it again today

  61. theREALkevin July 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 am

    backbench,

    Lee is going to the Yanks no matter what. nobody will outbid them to begin with, and he’s already made it known to people that he wants to play for New York.

  62. m July 22nd, 2010 at 1:58 am

    Holy Extra Innings! The metros & backs are in the 13th, and the metros fate is in the hands of Ollie Perez.

    And of course he just hit the batsman.

  63. Dave in VA July 22nd, 2010 at 1:59 am

    Requiescat in pace, Ralph Houk.

    Backup catcher for the Yankees, 1947-54. Manager, 1961-63 and again from 66-73. “The Major” also served as Yanks GM (64-66) but that is best left undiscussed. He won three AL pennants and two World Series; still, his ability to get maximum wins out of the later not-too-good teams may be his best legacy as a manager. (Cases in point: 1968 and 1970.)

  64. JeterMooseFan28 July 22nd, 2010 at 4:50 am

    Man CC is amazing. I remember when the Yankees signed him and a bunch of people freaked out and thought he’d be a bust in NY…God he proved them wrong—in his first season…and now he’s just continuing that success…here’s to our ACE.

    Happy Birthday CC! Manyyyyy happy returns!

  65. BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 am

    mick July 21st, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    # mick July 21st, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    I don’t understand why people get so uptight about fans criticizing different players. It is all done in the love for the team. We, as Yankee fans, are ingrained with success. We expect it and anything else falls short. I don’t know one long-time Yankee fan who doesn’t feel that way. They die a little every game esp. if they lose, no matter how you play it off, so do you, if you are a die-hard Yankee fan. Let other fans sit passively as their teams lose and even grow to “enjoy” the losing, a true Yankee fan can’t and won’t.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mick – Great post, you really hit it square on the head. I feel the same way, and, if people were honest with themselves, they would all agree. Very well said.

  66. BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am

    Happy Birthday CC, and thanks for becoming a Yankee!

  67. NYY fan in NH July 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 am

    “Happy Birthday CC”…no go kick some Royal butt today!

  68. BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 am

    A. Jackson, CF 4 1 3 0 0 0 0 .309
    P. Coke 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 0 2.45
    C. Granderson, CF 4 1 2 0 0 1 0 .238

    As of last night, no wonder the Detroit play-by-play guys were so pleased when they were discussing the trade.

    And now all we talk about is how much help the bullpen needs. Makes the kinda think, doesn’t it?

    By the way, in his last 15 appearances, Phil Coke has a 0.56 ERA. He’s their EIG now, and in his 8th last night 2 K’s, 1 weak grounder to 2nd., kinda reminds you of our EIG don’t it.

  69. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 am

    Big Al -

    You can’t really say what those guys would be doing here. Chances are A Jackson wouldn’t even be on the ML team; Coke was good, no doubt, but not perfect.

    The most important numbers, in my mind:

    Yankees: First Place 59-34
    Tigers: Second place 49-44

    The Yankees don’t have those “better” players from Detroit, have an inconsistent bullpen and other issues, and yet they have ten more wins than Detroit and play in an arguably tougher division.

  70. BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Doreen -
    You are correct, and I’ll be the first to admit the Yankees are the better team, I live and die with my team. All I was pointing out is the trade for Granderson was great for Detroit, and not so good for NY. Austin Jackson was our CF of the future, as Montaro and/or Romaine our C of the future, I don’t want Cashman to give away any more future stars, unless we get back a top quality player, not one like Granderson, who was on the steady decline when we got him.

  71. tom tresh 15 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:14 am

    RIP Ralph Houk

  72. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:14 am

    Big Al -

    It has turned out well for Detroit. That’s true.

    I’m not giving up on Granderson, though. He could salvage this season a bit, but I’m looking more to next season.

    BA-wise, he may not be what he was, but he should be hitting more HRs at the stadium, and I wonder if at some level he’s not pressing a bit, even though he said he doesn’t try to hit HRs.

  73. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Yuk. Comment got eaten by filter and I don’t know why.

    Big Al -

    It’s true that the trade has turned out well for Detroit and that’s a good thing, I think. But I’m not giving up on Granderson just yet. He may yet salvage this season a little, but in any event, I’m looking to next season.

    I wonder if perhaps even though he says he doesn’t try to hit HRs he isn’t pressing a bit? Even if his BA is on the low end, he could be hitting more HRs in Yankee Stadium.

  74. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Two times comment got filtered.

    Big Al -

    Trade good for Detroit. True. Not a bad thing.

    Granderson – not giving up on him yet. Season could be salvaged somewhat with strong finish.

    Not unusual for first-time Yankees to have some difficulty. Even with low batting average, could be hitting more homeruns at YS – maybe he is trying too hard even though he says he does not try to hit homeruns?

  75. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Fan poll :

    Will CC “opt out” ?

    1 Yes

    2 No

    Please state why you chose 1, or 2

    Personally, I think he will just becuase he can. :)

  76. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 am

    4 times comments got filtered.

    Big Al -

    Trade good for Detroit. Yes.

    Grandy still has time this year to improve a bit.

    Batting average no, but HRs, could be better at the stadium. Trying too hard, maybe, even if not consciously?

    Looking to next season with Grandy.

  77. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 am

    BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 am
    mick July 21st, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    # mick July 21st, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    I don’t understand why people get so uptight about fans criticizing different players. It is all done in the love for the team. We, as Yankee fans, are ingrained with success. We expect it and anything else falls short. I don’t know one long-time Yankee fan who doesn’t feel that way. They die a little every game esp. if they lose, no matter how you play it off, so do you, if you are a die-hard Yankee fan. Let other fans sit passively as their teams lose and even grow to “enjoy” the losing, a true Yankee fan can’t and won’t.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mick – Great post, you really hit it square on the head. I feel the same way, and, if people were honest with themselves, they would all agree. Very well said.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    That entire post is a load of horse dung. He may “live and die” and “rant and rave”, you may, but, not everyone does. It’s a sport….a game. I may not like what happening in the game, but, I still love baseball and the Yankees. If you and Mick feel that makes you more of a Yankee fan than some supposed adult who holds their breath and stomps their feet, all I can say is that you two have major issues beyond how the Yankees are playing.

  78. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 am

    MTU, Sabathia is going nowhere. He’s not risking $22+ mil a year on a gamble that he can get better. The only way that he’d consider leaving is if the team starts coming apart or he has a falling out with the tea’s management.

  79. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 am

    GB-

    Good morning.

    Didn’t see you around last evening.

    A few of us had what I thought was a pretty good discusion on the +
    and – of bringing up Montero late Aug., or when rosters expand in Sept.

    It was suggested that he could DH and maybe catch once in a while.

    The downsides seemed pretty minimal.

    Many thought he should be added to the 40 man now.

    I was undecided.

    What say you ?

  80. Erin July 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Loved those pictures from CC’s party-I didn’t know Leigh Teixeira was expecting! :)

    and MTU, I don’t think CC will opt out. My reason-just because he can doesn’t mean he will. LOL

  81. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 am

    I think that by the end of the season, Granderson can pretty easily get his average up in the .260s. With a season total of 17-18 homers and 60-65+ RBI, he’ll be just fine. He provides outstanding speed and power to go with near stellar defense.

  82. Joe from Long Island July 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Bret – did I read that right – you’re a dad? Congrats!

  83. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Joe-

    I think it was Bret’s sister who gave birth. :)

  84. LGY July 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 am

    The most amazing part of Austin Jackson’s season is that he is still at a .426 BABip.

    For some context on how high that number is, this is a list I pulled off another blog of the highest BABip in baseball history:

    Babe Ruth, 1923, .423
    George Sisler, 1922, .422
    Rogers Hornsby, .422
    Ty Cobb, 1922, .416
    Ty Cobb, 1913, .415
    Harry Heilmann, 1923, .414
    Rogers Hornsby, 1921, .409
    Rod Carew, 1977, .408
    Jose Hernandez, 2002, .404
    Manny Ramirez, 2000, .403
    Roberto Clemente, 1967, .403
    George Sisler, 1920, .401
    Ty Cobb, 1917, .401
    Bill Terry, 1930, .400
    Luke Appling, 1936, .400
    Ty Cobb, 1917, .400
    Benny Kauff, 1914, .400

  85. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 am

    MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 am
    GB-

    Good morning.

    Didn’t see you around last evening.

    A few of us had what I thought was a pretty good discusion on the +
    and – of bringing up Montero late Aug., or when rosters expand in Sept.

    It was suggested that he could DH and maybe catch once in a while.

    The downsides seemed pretty minimal.

    Many thought he should be added to the 40 man now.

    I was undecided.

    What say you ?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    As I’ve stated my belief before, unless there is a real emergency, it serves no purpose to add him to the 40 man roster before necessary (after the Rule 5 draft). There is a lot of talent that needs to be protected and 40 man roster spots will be at a premium. He’s better off learning at AAA and after their season is completed, bring him to NY and let him travel with the team, practice and get hands on training with Girardi, Pena and Posada. Let him catch bullpens with the pitchers. Just don’t activate him until necessary. Same with Romine.

  86. SJ44 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Its impossible to evaluate a trade prior to the season ending.

    Austin Jackson wouldn’t have even made the Yankee roster this year.

    He’s also hitting .260 since May 1 with a ton of K’s and no power. In other words, Brett Gardner has been the better player as far as “CF’ers of the future” is concerned.

    Granderson has been a disappointment so far. “So far” being the operative word.

    Bottom line is, there is still time this year for him to contribute to the team winning.

    Which, in the end, is all that matters.

  87. SJ44 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:44 am

    They aren’t bringing up Montero to DH.

    Their goal is to have him become a fulltime catcher. That’s why he is in AAA.

    It would be a waste of his talents to bring him up for spot duty. Which, would be the case.

    When the rosters expand, he will get his taste of the majors.

    For right now, he is where he should be….honing his craft in AAA.

  88. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:44 am

    GB-

    just wanted to be sure I had your take. :)

  89. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Whatever happened to Jose Hernandez anyway? As far as Benny Kauff, the Federal League was AAA quality “3rd Major League”

  90. MaineYankee July 22nd, 2010 at 8:46 am

    SJ44

    Not sure you saw this last night so I’ll repaet it.

    To paraphrase Pitino, all the negativity on this blog sucks.

  91. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 am

    SJ-

    “When the rosters expand, he will get his taste of the majors.”

    I assume this means he would NOT be added to the 40 man when he comes up in Sept. ?

  92. MaineYankee July 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 am

    ———-repeat———

  93. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am

    test -

    pressing

  94. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am

    test -

    salvage

  95. MaineYankee July 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am

    I spell just fine except when a certain poster is here. :lol:

  96. LGY July 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Ah, my bad. The list dates back to 1913. So I should have said baseball history as we know it.

  97. MaineYankee July 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am

    GB7

    I’ll let ray(red sox fan) know about the change here.

  98. Doreen July 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Okay, the word that got me filtered 5 times is

    s*a*l*v*a*g*e

    Why????

  99. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Maine-

    He just gets inside your head doesn’t he ? :)

  100. blake July 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am

    GB,
    I agree on Granderson and don’t think its unrealistic that he could get to those numbers.

    He a better player than he’s shown and as you say, he’s still provided really good defense in CF.

    MTU,

    I wouldn’t have a problem with a Montero Sept call up but I think he needs to catch as much as possible at Scranton before that happens. He is killing the ball right now though..seems he just needed a little adjustment time.

  101. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Great. Thanks Maine. It does make everybody type and spell better having SJ on board. Gotta impress.

    Then again, I’ve always had the ability to make others look better.

  102. Rich in NJ July 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am

    “Their goal is to have him become a fulltime catcher. That’s why he is in AAA.

    It would be a waste of his talents to bring him up for spot duty. Which, would be the case.

    When the rosters expand, he will get his taste of the majors.”

    Like the catching experience he would receive at SWB from August 15-30 is going to make a difference?

    We’re talking about calling him up two or three weeks early.

    It makes far more sense than burning prospects for a bat that can play between August 1-15.

  103. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Blake-

    Montero had a perfect night last night 3 for 3 with a walk.

    He is so hot right now the Fed’s are trying to blame Gobal Warming on him.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing him added to the 40 man in Sept. so he could become part of the equation. :)

  104. MaineYankee July 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 am

    I said I spell worse when someone is here not better. :lol:

  105. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 am

    I never knew just how bad Montero’s hand was injured last year, but, it may have taken this long to get him healthy and break the bad habits that he developed in his swing. He still has periods of time when his defense takes a dive, though, as does Romine.

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    Rich-

    I think we are going to lose this battle. The downsides seemed kind of minimal though.

  108. Rich in NJ July 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am

    MTU

    If the Yankees make a dumb trade for a bat, they are the losers.

  109. SJ44 July 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Maine,

    A lot of it is just kids that can’t understand why the Yankees have……..gasp…..FLAWS!!!

    That’s right, its not a PERFECT team and some Yankee fans DEMAND a perfect team.

    They complain about the bench because it doesn’t have brand names.

    However, if you look at this season to date, the bench has played a huge role in its success.

    Guys have contributed and its been a bunch of different names, non-brand names, who have made those contributions.

    Would they like to upgrade it with some veteran presence down the stretch? Absolutely.

    However, Thames, Cervelli, Curtis, Russo (in the Mets series), Miranda, and Pena have all chipped in to help the team win games. That’s what a bench is supposed to do.

    The bullpen? I defy ANYBODY on this blog who didn’t think it wouldn’t be the strength of the team this year.

    Aceves, Mitre, Robertson, Marte, Chamberlain and Rivera. We all thought it would be the strength of the team.

    Aceves gets hurt and has missed most of the year. Mitre misses a month after pitching well. Robertson, Marte and Chamberlain have been inconsistent. Mo has been great.

    Who would have guessed the bullpen would struggle this much?

    Guess what? Despite its struggles, they STILL have the best record in baseball.

    Since most of the nostradumbazzes who make October predictions on here are clueless, I don’t pay any attention their their predictions of October gloom.

    They are the same clowns who praise the Red Sox on here daily. A team currently EIGHT games behind the team that “mails in too many games” according to some on here.

    Its a LONG season and stuff happens. You deal with the ups and downs, continue to win series, and push along. Its all you can do and this team so far has done that very, very well.

  110. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 8:59 am

    GB-

    Montero could DH, catch once in a while, and still get his instruction on the side from Pena and others.

  111. Rich in NJ July 22nd, 2010 at 9:01 am

    “The bullpen? I defy ANYBODY on this blog who didn’t think it wouldn’t be the strength of the team this year.”

    I didn’t think the pen would be this bad, but I always thought that the rotation and the offense were far stronger than the pen.

  112. sunny615 July 22nd, 2010 at 9:01 am

    Montero being called up is pretty moot IMO. Whether he gets hacks here sporadically or in AAA consistently, I would think the Yankees would want to keep him in AAA to maintain his consistency and keep him playing on a regular basis as other regulars would need to him the DH spot from time to time (Posada when Cervelli catches; DJ, Arod or Tex getting a day off; etc)…

  113. blake July 22nd, 2010 at 9:02 am

    MTU,

    Jack Z may wind up wishing he hadn’t backed out on the deal with the Yanks.

    Need to take care of business in this series…especially since they are missing Greinke. They have an opportunity to put some more distance between themselves and the field. Never expect a sweep in a 4 game series but 3 of 4 should be a very realistic goal.

  114. Rich in NJ July 22nd, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Jack Z contributed more to this team’s future this season than Cashman…………….

  115. Erin July 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am

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  116. 86w183 July 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 am

    I side with those who think Montero needs to finish the season in Scranton. He’s not going to fill an urgent need by coming up earlier so in the long run finishing his developmental season in AAA makes more sense. Would he be better than Thames as a righty DH? Possibly, but it’s not worth it.

    To me Curtis’ at bat Wednesday is one for the ages. For a kid to deliver like that under those circumstances is truly remarkable.

    Let’s hope CC puts an end to the run of lousy starts tonight and a VERY well rested AJ Burnett steps up tomorrow.

  117. MaineYankee July 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 am

    SJ44

    I’ve followed this team long enough to see role players make a big difference.

    Brian Doyle comes to mind.

    How many thought Gardner would play as much of a role as he has?

    The list would be long of players that helped this team over the years that weren’t considerd important.

  118. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Blake-

    He is going to rue the day.

    That’s what I’m hoping for 3 of 4. We have a pitching advantage all the way thru especially missing the G man.

    We just need to continue to hit.

    Are you back home now ? :)

  119. SJ44 July 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Rich,

    What makes you think a kid who hasn’t faced major league pitching all year, can just step in and hit in NY?

    If it was such a slam dunk he would come up and hit, they would have called him up already.

    Bringing him up early creates more hassles than solutions. Especially when they don’t want him to DH and he isn’t ready to handle a major league pitching staff in a pennant race.

    The downside to it is, putting the kid in the middle of a pennant race on a veteran team isn’t always the most prudent way to develop a player. What if he struggles? What if he isn’t the “next Miguel Cabrera” right out of the gate? You now add another layer to fix in his development when you don’t have to push the envelope to do so. Its not like this team is in trouble at the present time.

    As far as “burning propsects in a trade”, that’s what you do to acquire veteran players.

    They aren’t going to trade an A List prospects for a bench piece.

    They will move guys who are moveable. Guys that every farm system develops for the express purpose to trade them.

    Its never going to be a team full of homegrown players. Right now, the Yankees have some pieces they can move for veteran help that would not upset the world order of their farm system. Guys that are either blocked by set players at the major league level or guys that other teams really like.

    Its a matter of what you can move them for and if the cost is worth it.

    Just because Jesus Montero is now hot in AAA does not guarantee he will be hot if he was called up tomorrow.

    He’s 20 years old and has had to deal with an up and down season that is now on the upswing.

    The prudent thing to do from a development standpoint is to leave him where he is and have him finish the minor league season as strongly as possible.

  120. GreenBeret7 July 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 am

    How bad have things gone for the Yankees this year? They have to go 41-28 to finish with 100 wins. That’s a .594 winning percentage. They are playing .634 now with this brutal buulpen, no bench and everyone having below par seasons except for Cano and swisher. Have they been going to Wal-Mart’s and buying wins at a discount?

  121. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 9:11 am

    GB-

    “Have they been going to Wal-Mart’s and buying wins at a discount?”

    No, but it sure looks like Girardi has been sleeping at the Holiday Inn lately. :)

  122. blake July 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 am

    MTU

    Agreed.

    Nope. Squirrels, seagulls, and passing cars are still in danger near golf courses in SC. ;)

  123. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Blake-

    You have been gone a while.

    Did you hit lotto ? :)

  124. SJ44 July 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 am

    MTU,

    Tony Pena is the bench coach. He’s not going to be giving catching instruction to a rookie catcher in the middle of a pennant race. That creates a layer of problems the Yankees don’t desire down the stretch.

    Montero has also not caught any of these arms. You don’t do that to a pitching staff when you don’t have to this late into the season.

    Its different when you bring up a catcher than when you bring up an OF or an INF. There is so much of the game a catcher has to have a grip on, to bring up Montero now would be the height of foolishness for this organization. It certainly isn’t in his best development interest.

    To have him DH now? Even more foolish since they have spent the last 4+ years trying to make him a fulltime catcher. In addition, with the long stretch of games coming up, they need the DH spot to serve as a half day rest spot for their veteran players like Arod and Jeter.

    You bring a kid up like this when he is ready to assume the daily duty you have set up for him. Its not to come off the bench and be a part-time player.

    He’s just getting back in a confidence groove. Why mess with that now?

    Especially since this team doesn’t need Jesus Montero to win this year.

  125. MTU July 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 am

    SJ-

    He certainly is back in a confidence groove. I’ll grant you that. He is just tearing the cover off the ball right now.

    He’s hotter than molten metal.

    Thanks for your take. I appreciate hearing what your experience tells you. :)

    By the way, I hope Tony is feeling better.

  126. BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 9:32 am

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    I think that by the end of the season, Granderson can pretty easily get his average up in the .260s. With a season total of 17-18 homers and 60-65+ RBI, he’ll be just fine. He provides outstanding speed and power to go with near stellar defense.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You seem to enjoy ripping anyone that does not conform to you’re was of thinking. Rather than an exchange of ideas on the blog, you seem to have an attitude of “My way or nothing”. I commented on Mick’s post, simply stating I agreed that many fans take it to heart when the Yankees lose, and do not take a ho hum attitude of not caring one way or the other. No where did I “rant or rave, live or die, as you state, neither did Mick. I don’t know Mick, nor do I know you, other than what you post. I do however believe you are delusional if you keep thinking Granderson will become a productive hitter for the Yankees. And as for his stellar defense, what Granderson have you been watching? He keeps going back on balls that wind up falling in front of him. gardner is a far superior defender. Just as you and others like to point out what Austin Jackson has done so far as his “season”, you then say you can’t judge Granderson on half a season. Jackson could not be batting at such a low BA since May 1st, as stated by SJ44, and still be at .309 as of today.

  127. mick July 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am

    That entire post is a load of horse dung. He may “live and die” and “rant and rave”, you may, but, not everyone does. It’s a sport….a game. I may not like what happening in the game, but, I still love baseball and the Yankees. If you and Mick feel that makes you more of a Yankee fan than some supposed adult who holds their breath and stomps their feet, all I can say is that you two have major issues beyond how the Yankees are playing.
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    As Big Al states above, quite eloquently, it’s ALWAYS, your way or the highway. Once again you take the extreme position , just to be a contrarian, IMO. And who said you don’t love baseball, not implied either, why so defensive? Some people are so drunk by the end of a game that they aren’t awake to see it or are too numb and dumb to appreciate it, the good or the bad.

  128. BIG AL July 22nd, 2010 at 9:49 am

    As information, as of 05/01/10 Jackson was batting .356 and as of 07/21/10 he’s at .309, a drop of 47 points.

    As of 05/01/10 Cano was batting .382 and as of 07/21/10 he’s at .333, a drop of 49 points.

    So according to some, like SJ44, Cano sucks worse than Jackson.

    Everyone knows early season averages that are quite high, rarely hold up, but, to say Austin Jackson is not hitting well is wrong.

    Granderson missed 23 games and still has 58K’s to Jackson’s 95K’s. Jackson’s #’s are 16 SB, .361 OBP & .415 SLG, compared to Granderson’s .305 OBP & .393 SLG and 7 SB

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