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Rays reportedly discussing trade for Jayson Werth

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 21, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

If there was a silver lining to last night’s Yankees loss, it was that the Rays spent the night blowing a lead in Baltimore and losing to the lowly Orioles. In front of the First Lady, no less.

So the Yankees division lead stayed the same, but he most significant news of the night might have come a little before midnight when Buster Olney reported that the Rays were talking about a trade to acquire right fielder Jayson Werth from the Phillies. The deal could be a blockbuster, because Ed Price is reporting that the Phillies are also talking to the Astros about adding Roy Oswalt.

With that, I’m on my way back to Yankee Stadium. It’s as if I never left.

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97 Responses to “Rays reportedly discussing trade for Jayson Werth”

  1. Erin July 21st, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Warning to everyone-my record for being at work while the Yankees play is not good this year. I think it’s something like 1-4.

    Just so everyone’s aware. ;)

  2. Fran the original July 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Doreen,

    Here is my line-up

    Derek SS
    Swisher RF
    Tex 1B
    Alex 3B
    Robbie 2B
    Jorge DH
    Granderson CF
    Cisco C
    Gardner LF

    Thanks :)

  3. Rich in NJ July 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am

    These stories usually leak because GMs are trying to get other GMs to enter the bidding.

    Teams are going to make moves, but that shouldn’t change what the Yankees are willing to give up to improve their team. IOW, Montero, Romine, Betances, and Brackman should be untouchable.

    If they can make a big move with other pieces, then it’s something to consider.

  4. Fran the original July 21st, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Erin,

    Well then can you call in sick today?

  5. Erin July 21st, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Fran the original July 21st, 2010 at 8:32 am
    Erin,

    Well then can you call in sick today?

    *****************************
    Fran-too late. I’m already at work. :(

  6. Rich in NJ July 21st, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Erin

    Maybe if you don’t actually do any work at work, you can change your mojo…

  7. Erin July 21st, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Rich in NJ July 21st, 2010 at 8:36 am
    Erin

    Maybe if you don?t actually do any work at work, you can change your mojo?

    ****************************
    True. I’m going to try my best to pull a Costanza, and look annoyed all day so my boss thinks I’m really busy.

  8. igotid88 July 21st, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Gardner
    Swish
    Tex
    Alex
    Cano
    Posada
    Jeter
    Granderson
    Cervelli

  9. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 8:44 am

    No Phil Hughes tribute this time. Sorry. :(

  10. Disco July 21st, 2010 at 8:46 am

    Why would TB do that? They already have 3 OF. Yeah, Upton kinda sucks this year, and I’d assume he would be going to Philly (although they have Brown waiting for a job). If Upton goes, TB needs to call up Jennings. I mean, maybe Werth will DH but he is a good fielder.

    Will S-Rod/Brignac be relegated to the bench, Werth in RF, and Zobrist back at 2b?

    If that’s the case it might now be so bad depending on who they give up and the fact they would get 2 draft picks. But the win upgrade of Werth over whoever is he replacing seems minimal.

  11. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Zobrist would DH and Werth would play RF.

  12. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 8:48 am

    The really big question for GM’s is ‘What is Werth Worth ? ” :)

  13. Mike_Boston July 21st, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Philly management, what a bunch of idiots, they could have had Werth, Lee and Doc all season, now not…

  14. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 8:51 am

    I can see the Rays adding Werth for a run.

    They could enter a rich draft with oodles of picks from Werth, Crawford and Pena.

    All of those guys could be Type A free agents.

  15. Tar July 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Good morning everyone. So was yesterday a success here at Lohud? I was busy and traveling most of the day. Thanks

  16. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Bret-

    “I can see the Rays adding Werth for a run. ”

    If that’s all they expect to get out of him, “a run” , I wouldn’t make that trade. :)

  17. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Tar-

    IMO, yes and no. Yes because we got a handle on imposters and trolls. No because there was still a lot of anger and complaining.

  18. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 8:57 am

    MTU,

    I’m afraid of the Rays.

  19. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Werth has had a power outtage lately, no homers in the last ?23 games, and strikes out about once in every 3.5 bats. If the Rays give up a salary controllable asset like Upton or a starting pitcher, they’re in it to win it all this year, as they stand the chance to now lose Crawford, Pena and Werth as FA’s.

    Just watched Albaledejo’s stint last night. Was not impressed with either of his velocity, location, or movement. I know it’s a small sample size and that he went more than one inning, but IMHO, we still need help in the bullpen as Park Gaudin, Moseley, Logan are unreliable.

  20. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:01 am

    Bret-

    The can only hurt you if they sting.

    We carry a harpoon. ;)

  21. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 21st, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Everyone is and will continue to be Yankees Chasers. As our best hitters continue to improve in the 2nd half and the others keep up the pace, our ‘holes” in the pitching staff won’t matter much. Andy will come back strong and Mitre will fill in nicely. For the playoffs, we have CC, Andy, Phil and AJ…..not too shabby. Famous line from Animal House….”ALL IS WELL !” :-)

  22. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:02 am

    YT-

    according to Cash the RP market sucks.

  23. Chuck58 July 21st, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Doreen, I’ll try again!
    GTLU:

    [1] SS Jeter
    [2] RF Swisher
    [3] 1B Tex
    [4] 3B Alex
    [5] 2B Cano
    [6] DH Posada
    [7] CF Grandy
    [8] C Cervelli
    [9] LF Brett the Jet

    :-)

  24. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:04 am

    I definitely don’t think we’ll add a starter. We’ll have CC, AJ, Andy and Javy going in the playoffs with Hughes in the bullpen with Mo.

    Hopefully, Cashman will add an impact bat and a reliever.

  25. Tar July 21st, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Thanks MTU

    You sure do get up early. It must be exceptionally beautiful there in the morning.

    Getting rid of the imposter’s was the first priority. I am afraid educating some of the unenlightened one’s is going to be an on going process.

  26. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Chuck58-

    I saw your post yesterday about Bryce. Glad you liked it. Not too shabby, huh ? :)

  27. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am

    MTU,

    Speaking of stings…

    I’ve been researching systemic reactions to bee/yellow jacket stings and there’s so much conflicting information I can’t decide whether to hide in my house for the rest of my life or run outside and do yard work without an epi-pen.

  28. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Tar-

    Your welcome. You ought to come over for a beer and you can see it for yourself.

    We can also watch a game on the Big screen. :)

  29. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Bret-

    That epi-pen is light and unobtrusive. I would make sure I have it handy.

    Think of it as insurance. :)

  30. Tar July 21st, 2010 at 9:11 am

    “Think of it as insurance”

    Speaking of which, it should be available for those who do not have helath insurance. Any closer to getting one Brett?

  31. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:13 am

    MTU-

    The current cost in talent returned for RP is to high according to Cashman, but there are some good arms out there that teams will be more desperate to trade to unload salaries as we move closer to July 31st.

    My hope is that they do get Cody Ross, and are willing to take Jorge Cantu’s remaining $6M salary and give up lesser prospects. Ross, a good fielder, can spell all the OF’ers and still get his share of at bats. Cantu can spell A-Rod at 3rd and spend some time at DH.

  32. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:15 am

    MTU,

    I will. But I wonder if the “epi-pen” manufacturers are in the business of selling mass hysteria. I read a medical piece that says that death by bee sting is not due to venom toxin but instead to underlying troubles in the body/immune system that are triggered under stress. My immune system is a machine. Seriously, and my metabolism is relentless. Nevertheless, my fear of death looms over me and I’ll buy in. I might be a sucker but it’s better than being dead. I’m not trying to be superman.

  33. MaineYankee July 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    MTU

    Good morning.

    People don’t know what their missing if they don’t see the sunrise.

    Best time of the day.

    I might be where the sunrise first hits the East this weekend. Mt Desert Island.

    My wife wants to go to Acadia this weekend for our anniversary.

  34. Macfan July 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    “# igotid88 July 21st, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Gardner
    Swish
    Tex
    Alex
    Cano
    Posada
    Jeter
    Granderson
    Cervelli”

    ++++++++++++++++

    LOL, I wished

  35. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Tar,

    I called my doctor’s office, they confirmed he wrote a prescription so I went to the pharmacy yesterday and it wasn’t there. Gotta call again today.

  36. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    YT-

    I hoping that Cash is just hanging back waiting in the weeds and just playing it smart.

    The Yankees could use a booster shot IMO. It may have to come from internal sources.

    We’ll see. :)

  37. champ809 July 21st, 2010 at 9:17 am

    GTLU- Another winner

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Tex 1B
    ARod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Miranda DH
    Grandy CF
    Velli C
    Gardy LF

    Javyliscious…..gets us a split

  38. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Bret-

    If it were me that’s what I would do. It would be like the “Mexican Express card”. Don’t leave home w/o it.

    I don’t go where slithery things are likely to be w/o insurance either.

    I am sure you get my drift.

    Be prepared. Be smart. :)

  39. black_tiger July 21st, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Warning to everyone-my record for being at work while the Yankees play is not good this year. I think it’s something like 1-4.

    Just so everyone’s aware.
    —————-
    Erin…go home with the flu.

  40. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:20 am

    MTU-

    Maybe a bat that can consistently hit the change-up would help! :)

  41. MaineYankee July 21st, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Yankee Trader

    I like Cantu and think he could add alot to the bench.

    We may see Cash do a deal like he did when he got Abreu.

  42. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Maine-

    That sounds really, really nice. I would love to see Maine- The Real Maine sometime.

    Maybe before I close my eyes for good I will get a chance. :)

  43. Doreen July 21st, 2010 at 9:23 am

    The following people submitted lineups for GTLU. If I missed your lineup please let me know.

    upstate kate
    Erin
    Fran the original
    igotid88
    Chuck58
    champ809

  44. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:24 am

    YT-

    Something, someway is gonna get done. I am confident of that.

    Cash is gonna tweak it. :)

  45. JM July 21st, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 8:57 am
    MTU,

    I?m afraid of the Rays.

    _______________________

    Have faith in the Yankees, my son. :) Javy will bring it today. Then the Royals come in for the weekend.

  46. JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Hughes rule = FAIL

  47. Erin July 21st, 2010 at 9:25 am

    black_tiger July 21st, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Erin?go home with the flu.

    ****************************
    Unfortunately, I do have a lot of work to do today. :(

    I’ll tell you what, if they do lose today, I will take full responsibility.

    But I think Javy will get things back on track.

  48. Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:26 am

    The Yankees just need to worry about themselves and not what another team is doing. As it stands, we have rotation, pen and bench issues……..

    I wasn’t for obtaining a 5th starter because I felt that putting Phil in the pen 2 months early (when Andy comes back) would be huge mistake in terms of his development, but clearly we need another starter (and if that starter has to be put in the pen, so be it – at least until Phil hits his innings limits).

    I wouldn’t be concerned with Phil at all if it was just a matter of him having the pitches and just not executing them. However, he really doesn’t have good secondary pitches. It’s amazing to me how much his curve has deteriorated – just because he didn’t use it in the pen last year? Is it that easy to lose the feel of a pitch? I don’t know how he’s going to find the consistency with it again – but doing it in the majors is a tough proposition. As to the change, that doesn’t worry me so much, though I think he really should have used it more often early in the season when he was so confident in it coming out of ST.

    Jack Curry mentioned on the post–game that last night was the first game he can remember where Phil had poor presence on the mound – that he really seemed to let the umpire’s squeezing him effect him.

  49. Erica in NY July 21st, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Totally forgot this was a day game-

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Tex 1B
    A-Rod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada DH
    Granderson CF
    Cervelli C
    GGBG LF

  50. MaineYankee July 21st, 2010 at 9:26 am

    MTU

    It’s very different than where you are but I think you would like what it’s like inland.

    Lots of trees, lakes and hills(not as big as out your way).

    I saw a new fawn running along the road the other day.

  51. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:28 am

    I think the cheapest, most bargain bats would be Jose Guillen or Jorge Cantu.

    The most reasonable late-inning reliever would be Downs.

    Cashman should walk away with additions of this caliber at the very least – 1 hitter – 1 reliever.

  52. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:29 am

    JM-

    The Royals lead both leagues in overall batting average, but fortunately rank near the bottom in pitching ERA.

  53. MaineYankee July 21st, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Bret

    I’m not sure any RP will be reasonable this year. To many teams looking for the same thing.

    I still think that what Cash does is something nobody saw coming.

  54. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Then again…Cash could surprise and walk away with DeJesus and Soria.

    That would be a shocker.

  55. Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Maybe Phil should go back to that slow, loopy curve he used to have – it sure worked for him.

  56. Joe from Long Island July 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Good morning all –

    1. The only good thing about last night is that Tampa and Boston also lost. And, no one got hurt.

    2. Some people are running out of rope. Park and Gaudin, for instance.

    3. I really hope KLong can figure something out for Granderson. I was so high when they acquired him, him being a great guy, good OF, and an fellow alumnus of the U of I. However, his season has been a tough one, to say the least. The guy has a track record, so I’m not writing him off at this point, but, unless the Yanks can see something to grasp onto, his tenure in pinstripes might not last. Would the Yanks play both Brett and Crawford in the same OF, or would they go in the direction of a Jayson Werth? Or, trade for an LF?

    4. Some have started a bandwagon for Jesus Monetero. It would be exciting, and a great story line for the writers, but I’d have to trust the Yankees on this call. I don’t think I’d have him as the primary backup for Posada.

    5. Juan Miranda needs to show something, relatively soon, so the Yanks can make some decisions, both in terms of DH this year (Montero?) and whether he can be a useful trade chip. Otherwise, it’s back to AAA as organizational filler.

    Now, I actually have to go back to the day job….Later, for more wit and wisdom ;)

  57. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Maine-

    Different can be refreshing.

    And yes, I am sure I would love it.

    It’s wild and it’s somewhat unspoiled so yeah it’s right up my power alley so to speak.

    We see many Bambi’s out here all the time.

    Last year we saw a small herd of Elk on one of our treks. That was a real treat.

    Have a wonderful time with your wife. :)

  58. Mike Ri July 21st, 2010 at 9:33 am

    I was hoping the Yanks would get in on Oswalt ! . With Hughes’s pitch limit . Andy going down. He would have been a nice addition . I know his contract is pricey. . however,,,,,,,,,,,,,, its a very short term contract.

  59. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Joe-

    That’s quite a list.

    I would respond but you are probably already back working and pretending you are Marcus Welby. :)

  60. Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Joe said he was eager to see how Phil does next time out, on regular rest; if he doesn’t do well, then they may start getting concerned.

    Yanks need a reliever, but who is out there? Same for the bench……..Per Cash, the trade market is dead for them – presumably teams are asking for way too much in return.

  61. Bill D July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am

    “Jack Curry mentioned on the post–game that last night was the first game he can remember where Phil had poor presence on the mound – that he really seemed to let the umpire’s squeezing him effect him”

    I mentioned that last night. Pitch before the Napoli homerun was a 2-1 breaking ball that was very close to being a strike along the outer edge. Hughes’ negative body language following than pitch was palpable. Next pitch was a fatty that Napoli crushed. Said last night it might have been helpful if Posada went out to settle him down prior to that pitch. Still, Hughes’ has to man up in that spot, as he’s shown he’s more than capable of doing under similar circumstances in previous outings.

  62. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Bret-

    Cantu would be more helpful, as he can paly 3rd, while Guillen is now mainly a DH, plus his salary is $12M.

    Scott Downs would be a good lefty pickup, but I imagine he’s going to be a hot commodity, and trading within our division with Toronto, might not be possible in terms of what they’ll want in return.

    Mega-multiple trade with the Marlins:

    Trade for Leo Nunez as EIG [$2M this year, will double in arbitration], get Cody Ross[ also arb eligible] and be willing to take on the remainder of Cantu’s $6M salary. Wishful thinking??

  63. RJ July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am

    As far as Tampa/Werth goes, check his home/road splits. He’s a product of that ballpark. Won’t be the same in the AL.
    .971 OPS home/.783 road. Only 3 HR/18 RBI on the road in more AB’s.

    I’m not scared

  64. Abe Peterham July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Tex 1B
    A-Rod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada DH
    Granderson CF
    Cervelli C
    Brett g LF

    lets go yanks…get these bats working and score 8 today.

  65. JM July 21st, 2010 at 9:37 am

    #Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:29 am
    JM-

    The Royals lead both leagues in overall batting average, but fortunately rank near the bottom in pitching ERA.

    ___________

    Yes, hopefully the Yanks’ offense can run up some big numbers on Royals’ pitching and AJ can have a bounceback start. I think the Yanks miss Greinke this time around.

  66. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:37 am

    YT-

    “Wishful thinking??”

    We’ll know soon but if I had to guess- yeah.

  67. RJ July 21st, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am
    Joe said he was eager to see how Phil does next time out, on regular rest; if he doesn’t do well, then they may start getting concerned

    ==========================

    Then maybe you should listen to Joe, wait & see, and stop freaking up the game threads with the PH garbage.

  68. Blogger Formerly Known As Dan July 21st, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Maybe the Werth deal will be a way for the Rays to get rid of Bartlett to the Astros and help them keep Crawford.

  69. Erica in NY July 21st, 2010 at 9:38 am

    I am not having a good day so far….

    I hope the Yankees win to fix that

  70. BD (Boston Dave) July 21st, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Buster Olney also called the Rays the 1998 Yanks and is wrong on 99% of his trade rumors.

    Even if the Rays wanted Werth, as soon as Olney reported it, it instantly became a longshot.

  71. Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Joe, I feel for Granderson – he seems to really have fallen off a cliff. I still don’t think the Yankees will go after Crawford next year – their big priority is Lee. Even if they did, they’d get little for Granderson in a trade. I like the guy a lot, so I’d really prefer that he pick it up and do his thing for us.

  72. BD (Boston Dave) July 21st, 2010 at 9:40 am

    “I think the Yanks miss Greinke this time around.’

    ———————

    the Yanks face Greinke.

    the only guy they miss is LeRew, I believe.

  73. Erica in NY July 21st, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Joe from Long Island July 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am
    Good morning all ?

    1. The only good thing about last night is that Tampa and Boston also lost. And, no one got hurt.
    *****************

    Swisher’s first inning home run was a brief moment of sunshine :-)

  74. BD (Boston Dave) July 21st, 2010 at 9:41 am

    I stand corrected

    KC must have shuffled their rotation over the past few days.

    It looks like they DO miss Greinke

    nice!

  75. Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:42 am

    RJ, excuse me but you don’t own this blog. What’s the next thing, you setting the agenda for what we should talk about? What should we have talked about yesterday, how hot it was in NY?

  76. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:42 am

    BD-

    Is Olney the worst at starting rumors or is Ken Rosenthal?

  77. Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Also, since you have nothing to contribute, why don’t you shut your trap?

  78. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Erica-

    “Swisher’s first inning home run was a brief moment of sunshine”

    A flower in a field full of weeds.

    Hope your day improves. Think 5PM. :)

  79. BD (Boston Dave) July 21st, 2010 at 9:43 am

    YT,

    In this sports/entertainment business, there are MANY “worsts” at that :)

  80. vblade July 21st, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Granderson will be fine. I expect him to finish the season close to his career averages. The old back of baseball card concept. Works with Tex, I don’t see why it shouldn’t work with Grandy.

    Need a strong outing from both the offense and pitching tonight – the Angels are a bad road team and getting swept in the 2 game set would be disappointing.

    And Erin – forget about doing actual work today. LOL

  81. JM July 21st, 2010 at 9:43 am

    BD,

    Of course we know that the Yanks seem to be able to hit good pitchers, but the junkballers and pitchers they haven’t seen before….uh oh. :)

  82. Rich on the 6 train July 21st, 2010 at 9:44 am

    I hope that Nova gets a shot if Mitre doesn’t get it done. I think they need bullpen help a lot more than a bat off the bench. I would think they do not want the world to know becuase that would cause the price to go higher. I also know Cash has got to be the most patient man when it comes to deals (unless it is for Lee).

    I also wouldn’t be surprised to see a deal for a starter. As others point out, Hughes is gonna need to slow it down. With Pettitte on the shelf for about 4 weeks, the Hughes issue and AJ losing it this year. A surprise move for Sheets or better could happen.

  83. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:45 am

    JM-

    They had Mr. O’Sullivan on the ropes early but they let him off.

  84. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:45 am

    3. I really hope KLong can figure something out for Granderson. I was so high when they acquired him, him being a great guy, good OF, and an fellow alumnus of the U of I. However, his season has been a tough one, to say the least. The guy has a track record, so I’m not writing him off at this point, but, unless the Yanks can see something to grasp onto, his tenure in pinstripes might not last. Would the Yanks play both Brett and Crawford in the same OF, or would they go in the direction of a Jayson Werth? Or, trade for an LF?

    4. Some have started a bandwagon for Jesus Monetero. It would be exciting, and a great story line for the writers, but I’d have to trust the Yankees on this call. I don’t think I’d have him as the primary backup for Posada.

    *************

    3. Granderson will always be toolsy. Once they get him back to where he was successful, he will be everything we imagined. It’s just a matter of time. I’m not worried about him. He’ll be a mainstay in CF for many years to come. If the Yankees sign Crawford, I think Gardner would be the odd man out since their speed and running scoring ability are redundant. I think Gardner is a better trade chip than Granderson at this point. Granderson is at the bottom of his performance levels while Gardner is having a breakout season at age 26/27. Granderson’s value is deflated while Gardner’s is as high as it will ever be. I’m not saying he’ll plummet or even come down, I’m assuming he’ll maintain near .800 OPS. Somebody posted Werth’s away splits and they’re bad and Phillies fans complain of him being a K-machine. I’m not sure if a non-contact guy is the right ingredient to add to this feast or famine lineup. I think Crawford fits this lineup much better than Werth or Gardner and I don’t want to sell low on Granderson.

    4. Jesus Montero is making a case for himself for an early callup but I believe Cashman can cheaply add Jose Guillen or Jorge Cantu. He’ll probably go the bargain blue-light special route but I wish he would add a consistent contact hitter to this lineup (DeJesus). Cano is the only one. Swisher is almost there but not quite. Gardner’s consistent getting on base.

    I’m more worried about the bullpen at this trade deadline.

  85. Blogger Formerly Known As Dan July 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am

    It would be interesting to see werth go to TB. They need to throw a good amount of their chips into this season with the amount of players coming off the books after this season.

    Picking up werth would be worth losing someone like Bartlett with the amount of middle infielders they have to play in his place.

  86. BD (Boston Dave) July 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am

    JM,

    I still think the Yanks would have had a tough time with Greinke, who is a junkballer, but a darn good one.

    He throws so many different pitches I think the Yanks may have struggled.

    They also got dominated by Luke Hochevar a couple years ago for KC.

    I think they can handle the guys they’ll face in this 4 game set. I suppose Chen or Bannister could give them a little trouble. The Yanks, as shown last night, will swing at changeups even if they see 20 in a row in the dirt.

  87. Doreen July 21st, 2010 at 9:48 am

    JM -

    They seem to be one and the same – pitchers they’ve never seen seem to be junkballers much of the time – at least seems that way to me. (Too lazy to look it up today. :) )

  88. Mgumpher July 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am

    I don’t think the Rays want to lose Crawford. They keep saying they are lowering payroll and they have some higher priced FA’s coming up.

    I guess I’m just a bit suspicious that this announced payroll decrease is in part a ploy to get at least one of them to sign at a discount rate. Crawford is probably the most costly renewal they would have.

    I don’t think its a bad move for the Rays if they do get Werth, but I don’t think they will be lights out better. They have some bullpen problems of their own, and some of their starters have implosions.

    I really don’t understand the moves that the Phillies are looking at and that they have done over this past season. Trading Lee was odd. If they weren’t going to keep Werth, why not free up some salary and trade him instead of Lee? I also don’t really see them taking additional salary.

    The Phillies offense has been off and on most of the season. How do they think that gets addressed by giving away one of their decent bats?

    They could certainly make up ground in the division, but even with a starter added to their team they have some tough ground to make up.

  89. vblade July 21st, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Teams like KC are the ones to be feasted on. Anything less than 3/4 would be a bitter disappointment, IMO.

    Like the adage goes, hover a little over .500 win% versus the over .500 teams, and post a .750 win% over the under .500 teams, and you’ll win the division.

    That said, gotta win the game tonight first.

  90. MTU July 21st, 2010 at 9:52 am

    BD-

    I don’t know which greinke you have been watching but the one I have seen is far from a “junkballer”.

    Unless 95+ with the FB is a junkballer. ;)

  91. Bret The Hitman July 21st, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Yankee Trader July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 am
    Bret-

    Cantu would be more helpful, as he can paly 3rd, while Guillen is now mainly a DH, plus his salary is $12M.

    Scott Downs would be a good lefty pickup, but I imagine he’s going to be a hot commodity, and trading within our division with Toronto, might not be possible in terms of what they’ll want in return.

    Mega-multiple trade with the Marlins:

    Trade for Leo Nunez as EIG [$2M this year, will double in arbitration], get Cody Ross[ also arb eligible] and be willing to take on the remainder of Cantu’s $6M salary. Wishful thinking??

    **************

    Nunez will cost more than Downs. The top prospects the Marlins demand could be used to get an elite reliever much more established than Nunez.

    I’m not saying Cash can snag Downs from a division rival but I would expect him to walk away with Downs or something better.

    I like Cantu but doubt Cash will add 2 bats so Ross is unlikely. Cantu is cheaper than Ross.

    I expect Cantu and Downs at the very least but I’m hoping for DeJesus and Soria.

    I’m fine with Cantu and Soria as well :)

  92. Apple byte July 21st, 2010 at 9:54 am

    There will be some posturing among some GM’s this week to set the stage for deals to heat up next week.
    If the Phillies are to defend their NL title, they’ll need to make some moves or watch the Braves take the NL East.
    If the Rays have a true interest in Jayson Werth then it’s risky for a rental. They only need to fend off Boston who with 68 games left, will not be players at the deadline. By the time their injured players are back and hitting stride, time will be running out. The Rays play Boston 6 more times and a split does Boston no good.
    If it’s not too costly in prospects, the Yankees would be in good shape by adding Leo Nunez for the bullpen and either of Ross or Cantu for a bat. Both can play multiple positions.
    Other teams may want too much from Cashman.

  93. Blogger Formerly Known As Dan July 21st, 2010 at 9:58 am

    I see the Rays keeping Crawford and Peña. They talk about lowering payroll, but they will dish out what they can to keep those two. If they can keep the core together they always seem to have great roll players.

  94. pat July 21st, 2010 at 9:58 am

    Article in USA Today interviewing people in Yankee Stadium in the sections Alex’s 600th HR has the best chance of landing in and asking what they would do with the ball if they caught it.

    The resale value is estimated to be between $100,000 and $150,000.

    If you caught the ball, what would you do with it?

  95. GayleF July 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Pat I would give it back to him thats what any “fan” of the team should do

  96. Erin July 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am

    New Post: Has anyone seen Jamie Hoffmann?

    :arrow:

  97. RJ July 21st, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Betsy July 21st, 2010 at 9:42 am
    Also, since you have nothing to contribute, why don’t you shut your trap?

    ============================================

    See your above post about not owning the blog. You act like I’m the only one who feels this way about you. Quite the contrary, there are plenty of ppl who feel the same way, and have told you the same.

    I’ve been posting quite a bit for the amount of time I have to be on the blog. Sorry if I have other things to occupy my time so I can’t dominate threads with BS like you.

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