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Albaladejo optioned, Gardner out of lineup

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 24, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner has a sort of acid reflux problem and is currently in the hospital getting it sorted out. It’s pretty odd but apparently it’s not a significant problem — it’s something he’s dealt with since he was a kid — and he should be back and available off the bench this afternoon.

Jonathan Albaladejo was optioned to make room for Sergio Mitre.

Brian will have more when the clubhouse closes.

Derek Jeter DH
Curtis Ganderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Marcus Thames RF
Colin Curtis LF
Ramiro Pena SS

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227 Responses to “Albaladejo optioned, Gardner out of lineup”

  1. yankeeswin July 24th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Lets hope we get back to full strength quickly.

  2. jesusmonterofordh July 24th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    well that stinks for brett

  3. Giuseppe Franco July 24th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Well, that’s a first.

    Never seen anyone out of the lineup because of an acid reflux problem.

  4. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Ouch, poor Brett……

    Why Alby? Why not some other schmo – like Moseley or Gaudin?

  5. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    bet no one won gtlu today..

  6. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    i guess albie is the only one with options and he can’t pitch today..

  7. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    The fact that the Yankees think he’s a 1 inning pitcher probably hurt him since they need a long man – but they don’t need Gaudin and Moseley

  8. jpb173 July 24th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Thats a very weak hitting lineup. We need another bat!!!

  9. Giuseppe Franco July 24th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    They need Moseley today because of Mitre.

    Gaudin actually pitched pretty well yesterday. Certainly better than most expected.

  10. LGY July 24th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Dejo :(

  11. G. Love July 24th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Can’t believe I’m saying this, but it’s not fair. Albaladejo’s stuff looked impressive last night. He pitched with some brains and moved the ball around the strike zone.

    I’d rather him come in right now that Joba and Park.

    The two of them better get their acts together because reputation is the only thing keeping them on this 25 man roster.

  12. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    ut they don’t need Gaudin
    ——————————-
    obviously you missed last nites game

  13. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    A good day to get the bench some playing time.

  14. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo….._hall.html

    So glad that Howard Smith has a crystal ball. March to infamy? If Alex breaks Bonds’ record, I expect Smith to call it the 2nd day that will live in infamy……. :mad:

    GF, good point…….yes Gaudin did pitch well, but that was probably a fluke occurrence. I hope to see Alby up again to see what he can do…….

  15. NYYROC July 24th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    NYYROC July 24th, 2010 at 11:34 am
    REPOST
    Betsy, Unless I missed it, I haven’t read or heard the NYY ever said that PH would go to the pen in Sept or the post-season. Everyone just assumes that because he pitched out of the pen last year. In fact I did hear Eiland say, when the Lee rumors were around and eveyone speculated that PH would then go to the pen, that Hughes is an All Star SP and you don’t put guys like that in the pen. If they were planning that there would be no need to skip him (as they’ve done and plan to do) either. He could just pitch every 5 days and when he got close to the limit put him in the pen. They’re skipping him to give him the chance to pitch in the rotation all year. It allows the team a choice of what to do

  16. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    LGY

    Don’t despair, he will be back. He did exactly what the team wanted him to do.

  17. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    GLove, it’s not fair……….but Mitre in the rotation just kills them, today particularly because he can’t go more than 5 probably. Even once he gets stretched out normally, he’s unreliable – so the Yankees are going to keep 2 bad long men up here ?

  18. Mr. Sandman42 July 24th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    My guess (hope) is that with Mitre today, they’re just saving Gaudin/Moseley incase they need a longman, and since Alb pitched yesterday, he likely wouldn’t pitch today. Hopefully he is back up here tomorrow and one of those guys is gone.

    Have to hope Mitre holds them down. Looks like one of those lineups that won’t score many runs, if any.

  19. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    they have everyone available today other than gaudin…the pen has been fine lately

  20. Bronx Jeers July 24th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Hospitalized with heartburn? Whoa! Maybe he ate a big pepperoni pizza after the late ending game last night?

    Esomeprazole is your friend.

  21. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    anyone that has had acid reflux knows it sucks…..I had scopes down my throat a few times, had every med you can think of..was told by a friend to take two ounces of Aloe Vera juice every day….took my problem away

  22. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    NYYROC, that’s what I’ve said as well…….but another pitcher still complicates things. Who knows? The long rest between starts is not the sole cause (or even the full cause) of his issues, but if they are going to keep doing that, they have to change things up between starts. In any case, they can’t skip him now -they’d have to wait until Andy returns (well they can skip him if there’s an off-day involved somewhere). I still think it likely he goes to the pen; I mean, I know he was an all-star, but he’s not pitching like one right now.

  23. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    BTW..in some cases acid reflux leads to throat cancer

  24. Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Man this lineup stinks. Glad to see the Yanks are giving Mitre lots of support. It’s as if they’re waiting for him to lose today so that they can make a panic move for Haren tomorrow.

  25. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    “but Mitre in the rotation just kills them, today particularly because he can’t go more than 5 probably. ”

    Is that a prediction?

  26. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:44 am

    # mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    ly 24th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Mick

    You are the top suspect. So cut the nonsense.
    ===============================
    You haven’t a clue.
    =================================
    Tar,
    In case you missed it.

  27. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    “Man this lineup stinks. Glad to see the Yanks are giving Mitre lots of support. It’s as if they’re waiting for him to lose today so that they can make a panic move for Haren tomorrow.”

    Gardner and Swisher are unavailable.

    Who are the Yanks not using that you suggest should be in the line-up?

  28. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    It’s just George King, but:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....LwPMyHv77L

    I don’t recall – did the Yankees refuse to part with Nova? If so, I would guess that’s because they were already giving up Montero.

  29. G. Love July 24th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Betsy,

    I think that’s the plan. Considering Gaudin worked last night, Mosely is the fire hose in the pen today for Mitre.

    I guess you have to carry 2 long guys since 1 is dedicated to shadowing Mitre and the other is there in case any of the regular guys have an off night.

    I really thought it might be time to cut Park loose and use that spot for the younger guys in the system like Alby and whoever else in the minors they envision as a potential reliever this year.

    That said, having to carry Mosely and Gaudin is tough. It’s why they are in on Haren.

    I also think Gaudin pitched bravely last night and I think Joe and Cash have respect for the guy because of his work here last season.

  30. jpb173 July 24th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Man this lineup stinks. Glad to see the Yanks are giving Mitre lots of support. It’s as if they’re waiting for him to lose today so that they can make a panic move for Haren tomorrow.

    ——————————————————————————————————

    With Marcus Thames playing RF it appears they aren’t giving him much help defensively.

  31. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Man this lineup stinks. Glad to see the Yanks are giving Mitre lots of support.
    ====================
    what do u want them to do? swish is hurting, gardy is in the hospital…geez…

  32. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Um, yes and no – the Yankees have basically said that the guy is going to have to be watched (code for taking him out) at around 75 pitches. He may not even go that far – he’s not that good and it’s brutal out.

  33. Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 11:47 am

    @stuckey: anyone but Pena.

  34. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:48 am

    @stuckey: anyone but Pena.
    ====================jeter needs the day off from the heat…

  35. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    I didn’t miss it, just ignored it. Just stop.

  36. Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    Give Jeter a day off when all 3 regular outfielders are playing – like tomorrow maybe. Not today.

  37. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    Um, yes and no – the Yankees have basically said that the guy is going to have to be watched (code for taking him out) at around 75 pitches. He may not even go that far – he’s not that good and it’s brutal out.
    ================
    glad youre not their pitching coach, stay away from little league as well..

  38. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    GLove, I really liked Gaudin last year – and I was sorry he had a dreadful spring, to the point he was released.

    If the Yankees think Mitre needs a constant shadow, then they have to stop making dumb comments like this guy would be in most team’s rotations or that he is the new 5th starter for a reason. If they had any trust in him, they wouldn’t need a shadow…….Now today, I understand it, but keeping a shadow up here for him every 5th day tells me they have no confidence in him…….. and that begs the ? as to what Mitre is doing as the 5th starter?

  39. MG July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    We need lots more complaints about the lousy lineup before game time. Everytime that has happened this year the Yankees have scored a ton of runs, I’m sure today won’t be any different, it’s not like Kyle Davies is Roy Halladay.

  40. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    # Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    Give Jeter a day off when all 3 regular outfielders are playing – like tomorrow maybe. Not today.
    =====================
    Maybe when youre the Mgr.

  41. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    “@stuckey: anyone but Pena.”

    Who’s that?

    Are you that sort of Yankee fan who doesn’t even know the 25 man roster?

  42. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    # Tar July 24th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    I didn’t miss it, just ignored it. Just stop.
    ==========================
    Stop what?

  43. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    was at the game last Sunday and that was as Hot as I have ever been ( and I’m a electric lineman who works outside) today is suppose to be HOTTER…

  44. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:51 am

    reason. If they had any trust in him, they wouldn’t need a shadow…….Now today, I understand it, but keeping a shadow up here for him every 5th day tells me they have no confidence in him…….. and that begs the ? as to what Mitre is doing as the 5th starter?
    =======================================
    The guy hasn’t pitched in a month, give it a rest.

  45. G-C July 24th, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Gaudin’s fine.

    He has a 4.97 ERA and 18 strikeouts in 25 innings since coming back over here. Not exactly pitching the lights out, but as a long man and emergency starter he’s perfectly competent.

    Not sure what Moseley’s role is going to be around here long term though. I get the feeling that if AJ goes 7 or 8 like it looked he would yesterday and saved Gaudin, Moseley would be designated.

  46. Matt July 24th, 2010 at 11:52 am

    The way the pen has been used in the last week or so, I’m totally shocked that they would rather burn it out even more with a not stretched out Mitre than call up someone like Nova.

    Because of this strange decision, they now have to option down Albaladejo, who looked pretty good last night and fills a role they are weak in (set up), just to keep 2 mediocre long relievers on the roster.

    If they called up someone like Nova and put Mitre in the pen, they could have DFA’d both Gaudin and Moseley today and still had a long reliever on the roster, while keeping Alabadejo around. What does he have to do to earn his role on this roster? Lights out in AAA, and he flashed light night some signs that he could be tough on major league hitters as well if he can locate his pitches well.

  47. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    This is a throw away game.

    Doesn’t mean the Yankees are not going to do everything possible to win. It gives the regulars a chance to rest and heal, and the subs a chance to play. Please no whining about the line-up or the offense today.

  48. Pat M. July 24th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    A CB sighting…..

  49. Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    @stuckey – you haven’t heard of Ramiro Pena? Are you alive?

  50. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    “If the Yankees think Mitre needs a constant shadow, then they have to stop making dumb comments like this guy would be in most team’s rotations or that he is the new 5th starter for a reason.”

    That’s COMPLETELY irrelevant. What difference does it make what they say in any meaningful, pragmatic manner/

    “Now today, I understand it, but keeping a shadow up here for him every 5th day tells me they have no confidence in him…….. and that begs the ? as to what Mitre is doing as the 5th starter?”

    But he IS the 5th starter. That’s the most solid fact we have.

    So given that is HE is the 5th starter, maybe you ought to work frontwards instead of backwards and ask yourself if perhaps your assumptions about the Yankees regard for Mitre may not stand up to scrutiny.

    Because I’ll remind you – he IS the 5th starter.

  51. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    So what, if there was a game they could lose, it could be today, although I doubt it…some days you have to what’s best for the team and not win at any cost, something the unsophisticated fan wouldn’t understand.

  52. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    Um, no I won’t be giving anything a rest. I’m going to give you a preview, Mick – when you direct any post to me, I won’t be responding – I will ignore you. Period. That’s it – I’ve had enough with your crap. I’m not a 5 year old and I don’t need to be talked down to by the likes of YOU.

  53. LGY July 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Pat M,

    He has been very busy trying to acquire Haren ;)

  54. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    “@stuckey – you haven’t heard of Ramiro Pena? Are you alive?”

    I’ve absolutely heard of him

    I’m asking you to name an alternative to him. “Anyone” is a silly response when there is literally ONE guy left on the bench on the 25 man roster.

    I’m curious if you can even name him.

  55. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Stuckey, if you were trying to get a response, you failed – I’ve no intention of responding to what you just said as I don’t appreciate being talked down to (not that your post made any sense). Moving on from you.

  56. G-C July 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    I don’t think its a strange decision.

    Mitre has pitched really, really well this year. He did well in his two spot starts and his overall body of work has been really impressive. Its only 25 innings, but the guy has a 2.88 ERA and has only given up 16 hits.

    I genuinely think Cash and Co. think he can be an asset at the back of the rotation. In the meantime, I also believe Nova should stay in AAA where he can fatten up his numbers and avoid doing anything in the majors that would jeopardize his trade value. If Cash can find some way to hype him up as a “legitimate middle of the rotation type” and spin him off for something valuable I’d be really thrilled.

  57. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 11:56 am

    betting line today…Yankees $235 to win a $100………KC.$100 to win $205

  58. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Overreacting again besty?

  59. Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    @stuckey – simple. Play Jeter. DH Cervelli or Miranda.

    And stop responding to my comments, please. I don’t want to hear any responses from you.

  60. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Matt, I actually agree with you – at least for today’s start. They hated the idea of Nova for one start so much they actually had Mitre start on 3 days rest in AAA ……..

  61. Jerkface July 24th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    That said, taking on Chris Synder (where the heck would we even play him?)

    Catcher. He would become Jorge’s backup. he is a much better offensive player than cervelli, who we could deal for something else (reliever?)

  62. EveryoneSucksExceptSJCBDoreen July 24th, 2010 at 11:58 am

    To you idiots who complain about this lineup….

    Usually, when you complain about a posted lineup and say “ugh, cant score much here”, that’s usually when they put a 10 spot on the board.

    You’ve got all stars 1-6. If you worry about offense from your bench, you need a reality check.

  63. mick July 24th, 2010 at 11:58 am

    besty taking the hard line today…what will it be tmw?…perhaps she will leave again, to never come back…only for another day…

  64. Bronx Jeers July 24th, 2010 at 11:58 am

    It’s freakin Kansas City . And KC’s offense isn’t bad but it’s not like they’re facing The Big Red Machine or anything.

    They can still win ya know.

  65. Melk Man July 24th, 2010 at 11:59 am

    Park serves no purpose on the team. He is never going to be reliable enough to be trusted as a short-inning reliever and he loses it completely after 1 inning, so he can’t be a long man.

    If you want to keep 2 long men, then get rid of Park and replace him with a more useful short reliever.

  66. MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    I don’t think this lineup is all that bad. Arod, Cano, Jeter and Granderson all have good numbers against Davies, Teix has only faced him 2X and walked both times.

    Davies has a 5+ ERA, the Yankees will score at least 5 runs with this lineup and if Mitre is decent they will win the game. If not, big deal, the lead would still be at least 3.

  67. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    “Stuckey, if you were trying to get a response, you failed”

    Betsy, if you don’t know by now that his response hold zero interest to me, then I don’t know what else to do.

    You asked the question out loud – why is he the 5th starter given that they don’t trust him..?

    The simplest, most direct, most logical answer to your question is – the Yankees “trust him” more than YOU assume they do.

  68. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    GC, I’m talking about 1 start. Mitre is just coming back from his injury – and they had to pitch him on 3 days rest just so he could start today. Why not start Nova for one start – and then back to Mitre?

    Either way, I don’t expect we’ll see Alby anytime soon. Unlike fans on another board I post at, I like the FO and I love Cash, but this time I can understand why they are frustrated. Sending down Alby? Keeping awful pitchers like Park, Gaudin and Mosely?

  69. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    etsy July 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Stuckey, if you were trying to get a response, you failed – I’ve no intention of responding to what you just said as I don’t appreciate being talked down to (not that your post made any sense).
    ===================================================
    Wouldn’t this be considered a response?

  70. MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    why would the Yankees bring up Nova for one start when Mitre is the 5th starter until/unless a trade is made?

    Sometimes you just do what’s best for the team for more than one game, that’s exactly what they are doing today. And there is no guarantee that Nova would pitch any better than Mitre in a single start (in fact, he’s most likely not as good as Mitre right now). As one of the other comments said, if Nova pitched poorly today that could diminish his trade value as well so why take the risk.

  71. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Stuckey, you really completely missed the point. If they think Mitre is good to go as the 5th starter, why the heck do they need to keep Mosely around for his starts ? Today I can understand it (again, I don’t think he should have pitched today), but after that – if they don’t get rid of Gaudin or Mosely, then it’s obvious that they don’t trust Mitre. Why don’t you explain why this team needs two long men? I guess it’s possible the Yanks don’t trust Phil, AJ or Mitre………..

  72. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    “@stuckey – simple. Play Jeter. DH Cervelli or Miranda.”

    Glad to know you actually know the roster.

    But if you’re genuinely thinking that the difference between Pena or Cervelli-Miranda is make or break against the Royals…

  73. G-C July 24th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    “GC, I’m talking about 1 start. Mitre is just coming back from his injury – and they had to pitch him on 3 days rest just so he could start today. Why not start Nova for one start – and then back to Mitre?”

    Because Nova is a bigger risk to get shelled and pulled before 3 innings out of ineffectiveness and they feel better about their chances of getting 5 quality innings out of a not fully stretched out Mitre than they do Nova.

    Seems pretty clearcut to me.

  74. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    MG, you know they had to rush Mitre just to get him to make this start?

  75. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Why would they optioned Albaladejo when you have Gaudin and Park and Moseley on this roster.

    What a joke.

  76. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Ok, that’s fine…….

    Are you guys fine with keeping 2 long men on the roster and sending down Albaladejo? 2 long men who stink?

  77. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    I usually give Cashman the benefit of the doubt but its an absolute farce that he can keep 1 of those 3 guys around and send Albaladejo down.

    Really disappointed in Cashman with that move.

  78. X July 24th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Cashman would be a terrible GM if he didn’t have tons of cash to throw at problems.

  79. G-C July 24th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Moseley’s awful. Don’t know why he’s on the roster in the first place.

    Gaudin’s fine and should be around for a while until he proves he can’t do the job he’s done pretty well so far.

  80. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    I love Cash, but it’s a joke that he was afraid to lose Mosely to other teams, lol

  81. Pat M. July 24th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    LGY….Back to the phones for CB…..

  82. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    “# Mr. Sandman42 July 24th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    My guess (hope) is that with Mitre today, they’re just saving Gaudin/Moseley incase they need a longman, and since Alb pitched yesterday, he likely wouldn’t pitch today. Hopefully he is back up here tomorrow and one of those guys is gone.

    Have to hope Mitre holds them down. Looks like one of those lineups that won’t score many runs, if any.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Gaudin pitched yesterday so why couldn’t he be DFA’d

    Besides wouldn’t Albaladejo have to wait a period of time before he can be recalled

    I just don’t understand why Cashman is hanging on to Park, Gaudin, Moseley like they are doing anything special to warrant benefit of the doubt.

    Park has good numbers against righties and should never face a lefty. Fair enough if because of those splits he is kept

    But what is it about Gaudin and Moseley that is so good exactly.

  83. Niblick July 24th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    @stuckey – please be so rude and condescending. You are not Cashman. Or Michael Kay. Or even John Sterling. So, please, knock it off.

  84. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    Pat M

    That was a good line by LGY. :D

  85. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    “If they think Mitre is good to go as the 5th starter, why the heck do they need to keep Mosely around for his starts ?”

    Betsy, it’s an irrelevant question.

    I know for a fact they think he’s good to go as the 5th starter.

    I know this because they have other options and he IS the 5th starter.

    That is simple, irrefutable logic.

    “Today I can understand it (again, I don’t think he should have pitched today), but after that – if they don’t get rid of Gaudin or Mosely, then it’s obvious that they don’t trust Mitre. Why don’t you explain why this team needs two long men? I guess it’s possible the Yanks don’t trust Phil, AJ or Mitre………..”

    This fixation (and it’s not only you, don’t take it personally) on “trust” I don’t get, at all.

    The Yankees well understand that during a course of 162 baseball season, there will be times when you throw a starter out there that in all probability is not going to give you 7 or 8 innings.

    That’s not a lack of trust, that’s being realistic and prepared.

    The Yankees think pitching Sergio Mitre today is the best option available to him. They “trust” that option more than any other option that exists.

    This again, it simple fact, because it’s the decision they made.

    Micro-analyzing what the bullpen options behind it means is pointless.

    They obviously didn’t “trust” Nova as much as Mitre.

    Thinking beyond and around that simple truism is pointless.

  86. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    should send joba down…could use a check

  87. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Macfan, you’re right – Alby can’t be recalled for anything other than an injury before 10 days are up.

  88. ET July 24th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Yep, who cares that we only have one reliable short reliever in Robertson… we need more ineffective mop-up men like Park, Gaudin, Mosely. Even Logan can be added to this list even though he has been OK.

    He pitches well yesterday and can fill one of our only weaknesses, and they send him down? When 5 other pitchers in the pen are pretty much dead weight and serve the same purpose of low leverage relief?

    Maddening…

  89. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Stuckey, that’s fine – but why have 2 long men?

  90. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    “You are not Cashman. Or Michael Kay. Or even John Sterling. So, please, knock it off.”

    [Looks at driver's license]

    Yup. True.

    First time you’ve been right today.

  91. The Phenom July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    I’m confused….is this the same Betsy? I thought the pre-registration Betsy swore never to come back to Lohud?

    And on the opposite end of the posting spectrum…what happened to CB?

  92. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    # X July 24th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Cashman would be a terrible GM if he didn’t have tons of cash to throw at problems.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Its like he is attempting to justify his moves of

    A) Signing Chan Ho Park who has been awful against lefty hitters

    B) Taking back GAudin off the scrap heap when the A’s released him

    C) Calling up Dustin “the Great” Moseley because he didn’t want to lose him if he didn’t call him up.

    W.T.F. is Cash smoking, these guys must have compromising pics of him or something.

  93. LGY July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    Tar,

    I hope you’re right about Dejo :)

  94. Stultus Magnus July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    Man, that’s a bummer about Alabadejo. I hope he’s back soon.

  95. m July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    So now, Gardner is just ‘gritty’? :(

  96. G-C July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    “But what is it about Gaudin and Moseley that is so good exactly.”

    Gaudin is fine.

    Again, he has a 4.97 ERA in 25 innings since coming back here to go with 18 strikeouts.

    Doesn’t seem like much, but consider again that his ERA is almost as good as David Robertson’s and worlsd better than Joba’s and Park’s. He’s filled his role well and considering how well he pitched last year, the sum of the parts leads me to believe he won’t and shouldn’t be going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

  97. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    For some reason, this pen has remained static; you would think the Yankees would try anything to get it going without having to make trades for crappy relievers. Trying Alby for awhile would be one way to go……….Park stinks, let’s face it. Joba is completely unreliable.

    The only reason I can think that the Yankees would keep 2 long men is because they are concerned about their SP beyond CC and Javy (in terms of not getting innings).

  98. raymagnetic July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    This is going to sound crazy, but maybe they’ll get rid of one of the long men when Meat Tray is completely stretched out.

    Meat Tray can only go between 75 and 90 pitches and it’s about 100 degrees outside and someone actually wants to know why the Yankees are keeping a long man around today.

    The bullpen has also pitched a TON of innings this week and people really want to know why they’re keeping the long men up.

    One of their long men pitched 3 innings last night and people are actually wondering why they’re keeping the other long man up.

    You can’t make this stuff up folks. These people asking these questions actually exist and they are hilarious to me.

  99. LGY July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    stuckey is actually Suzyn Waldman.

  100. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Betsy,

    Because those are the pitchers Cashman wants on the roster right now.

    This is my point. You keep asking these questions that have simple answers.

    Cashman is “playing” for the next 2 months, not just today.

  101. m July 24th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Oh yeah! Nice to see you again, CB.

  102. MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Betsy, guess what, Nova pitched on the 20th so he’d be on 3 days rest going today. In order for them to use him today he would have had to pitch instead of Mitre on the 19th so they had this plan in place before that start. If they had done that then Nova would have to stay in the rotation because Mitre’s turn wouldn’t come up when the Yankees needed him.

    Mitre went 3 innings on the 15th and 4 2/3 on the 19th, it wasn’t like he was coming off a full start on 3 days rest. I think the Yankees staff knows enough about this to make the right call.

    As for sending down Albaladejo, they believe that the other guys are better right now. Personally, I think Moseley is a waste of a roster spot but they may need him today and can dump him sometime in the next week in favor of Albadalejo if they think it’s the right move. Gaudin hasn’t been very good but can at least go 3 or 4 innings and he’s only 27, his stuff is just as good as last year when he pitched well for them down the stretch.

  103. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    “stuckey is actually Suzyn Waldman.”

    Ssssssshhhhhhhh…. that was suppose to be a secret.

    Oh shoot, now I’m going to cry…

  104. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    # Stultus Magnus July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    Man, that’s a bummer about Alabadejo. I hope he’s back soon.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Same here bro, same here, I think the guy deserved a longer shot

  105. The Phenom July 24th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    How can Cashman be called awful? Isn’t the team in first place? Isn’t that the goal? To win the division? He can’t control injuries.

  106. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    The Phenom July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    I’m confused….is this the same Betsy? I thought the pre-registration Betsy swore never to come back to Lohud?
    ==================
    she says things she doesn’t mean all the time, for effect, i guess…or attention….maybe both.

  107. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    goodness gracious…

  108. The Phenom July 24th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    mick – thanks, I wasn’t sure.

  109. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    you can never have enough mop-up men…er, i mean pitching…

  110. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    You people who are so worried about the pen, do realize that this is not what you are going to see come play-off time, right. So why complain.

    There are so many variables involved that you don’t have the information on, such as trade talks. Maybe they don’t want to call up Nova because of talks, or maybe that’s why “dejo” was sent down. There is plenty of time to DFA Mosely or whoever. For now, just enjoy the ride.

  111. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Stuckey, sorry I don’t get that, but nevermind, let’s drop it. I will never agree that keeping Gaudin and Mosely on the same team is a good idea………and I hope Alby gets another chance some day.

  112. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    it’s 8-7 Yankees… top of the 8th( KC has 12 hits so far) with the temp on the field 105…..joba pitching……what happens by the time the get to the bottom of the 8th

  113. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    “# G-C July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    “But what is it about Gaudin and Moseley that is so good exactly.”

    Gaudin is fine.

    Again, he has a 4.97 ERA in 25 innings since coming back here to go with 18 strikeouts.

    Doesn’t seem like much, but consider again that his ERA is almost as good as David Robertson’s and worlsd better than Joba’s and Park’s. He’s filled his role well and considering how well he pitched last year, the sum of the parts leads me to believe he won’t and shouldn’t be going anywhere for the foreseeable future.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Fair enough then send Moseley packing, what do we need him for, Albaladjo can be more effective for us than him.

    Park can face just righties
    Gaudin can do his mop up thing

    but what is Moseley exactly good for.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Are we talking about the same Chad Gaudin

  114. Phil in Columbus July 24th, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Hate to see Dejo sent down, but if he wasn’t going to be used in high leverage situations, then he should get his work in at SWB. Makes no sense for him to ride the pine with the Yanks.

  115. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    MG, thanks for the info about Nova……….

  116. MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    For all the complaints about the bullpen, how many games has it cost the Yankees since June 1st?

    I count a total of 3 and in those games the Yankees scored a grand sum of 3 runs.

    Maybe some of you just protest too much.

  117. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Acid reflux is no joke. It’s not just heartburn. I’ve never gone to the hospital because of it, but I am on meds for it. Brett must have a severe case of it.

  118. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    or maybe that’s why “dejo” was sent down.
    ————————————————
    Maybe Dejo is in the deal instead of Joba?

  119. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    “# Tar July 24th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    You people who are so worried about the pen, do realize that this is not what you are going to see come play-off time, right. So why complain.

    There are so many variables involved that you don’t have the information on, such as trade talks. Maybe they don’t want to call up Nova because of talks, or maybe that’s why “dejo” was sent down. There is plenty of time to DFA Mosely or whoever. For now, just enjoy the ride.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I just hate to see a guy who was pitching well get called up and then sent back down without a legitimate shot.

    Is Cashman that afraid to get rid of Dustin Moseley, what is the love affair with that guy.

    He is a lifetime scrub

  120. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Phil, no it doesn’t. I give the guy credit for not whining about why he wasn’t given a chance with the Yanks earlier and still going out and dominating in AAA.

  121. Doreen July 24th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    My comment got eaten up.

    But,

    It has nothing to do with trust. Mitre can give them 75-90 pitches, but they PLAN on that. So they can figure out how to use their bullpen. He also has pitched (started & relieved) for them and they pretty much know what they will get – a solid effort that will be fine.

    Nova is an unknown. It is much better to go with a planned scenario.

    Albie got sent down because he has options and he would not pitch today anyway. As unreliable as they are, Moseley and CHoP are available today. At some point a more permanent decision may be made, but why rush that decision?

  122. Betsy July 24th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    vhttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/07/24/chamberlain.haren

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    Joba Chamberlain is 1-4 with two saves and a 5.66 ERA for the Yankees this season.
    AP

    The Yankees have balked at including Joba Chamberlain in the proposed deal for Dan Haren, but talks are continuing with the Diamondbacks.

    The likelihood of a deal took a hit when Arizona asked that the Yankees include Chamberlain and pay the full $33 remaining on Haren’s deal.

    The Yankees are on Haren’s approved list, can afford the right-hander and remain interested, if the price comes down.

    At times in the talks, the Diamondbacks have tried to attach reliever Chad Qualls (1-4, 12 saves, 7.86 ERA) or catcher Chris Snyder (.233, 10 HRs, 32 RBIs in the deal with the Yankees.

    Arizona is looking to pare its payroll. While the Yankees are looking for bullpen help, they view Qualls negatively based on his poor season.

  123. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Gaudin could be a valuable tool. He did fine yesterday and has professional pedigree to bounce back…Stop the bullpen panic…if it weren’t the pen, what would the topic d’jour be?
    Nothing. Oh, ok, we must be a very good baseball team…but that would be boring.

  124. Latroy Farnsworth July 24th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    You have got to be kidding me. How does Albaladejo get sent down and Chan Ho Park remains on this team?!?!?! This is beyond mind boggeling. It was mind boggeling enough when the Yanks signed Ho. Ho Park has been nothing but a complete nightmare this year yet remains on this team. Please someone tell me why..

  125. joeman July 24th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    # Laura – I Bleed Blue July 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Acid reflux is no joke. It’s not just heartburn. I’ve never gone to the hospital because of it, but I am on meds for it. Brett must have a severe case of it.
    ——————————————–
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  126. MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Park has sucked this year but he’s also a veteran major leaguer who may just wake up by the time the playoffs come around, that’s pretty much what happened with Marte last year and without him maybe the Yankees don’t win #27. Righties are hitting .214 against him, I could see him being used later in the year as a one or two batter specialist-that’s something Girardi did often in the playoffs last year. He isn’t making much money so there is no point in letting him go unless they firmly believe he’s done.

  127. stuckey99 July 24th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Betsy, I don’t expect you to agree to anything.

    But we are left in the seemingly same position we’ve been in for 2 years.

    You wondering how the Yankees keep making all these questionable decision despite clearly playing like the best team in baseball since April of 2009, and me suggesting the Yankees decision-making is a big reason why they’ve been playing like the best team in baseball since April 2009.

  128. Tar July 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    “what is the love affair with that guy.”

    Why Mosely is on the team is a legitimate question. -CB- I mean Cash has his reasons and he didn’t tell me yet. Best my guess is he won’t be on the team for long.

  129. Doreen July 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Betsy,

    Joba is not completely unreliable. He gives agita, for sure, and he’s messed up big time when he’s messed up, but on the whole, he’s done a job. Not a great job, but he’s not completely unreliable.

    There is no Andy Pettitte to replace Andy Pettitte. Unless they make a trade. So if the next 3 or 4 starts the starter is Mitre-Plus the Bullpen, using Moseley or Gaudin in the 5-7 range, I think they can live with that. But it doesn’t make sense to always imagine the worst case scenario.

  130. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Some people fail to see the importance of mop up men, esp in season.

  131. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    # Doreen July 24th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Mitre can give them 75-90 pitches, but they PLAN on that. So they can figure out how to use their bullpen.

    Albie got sent down because he has options and he would not pitch today anyway. As unreliable as they are, Moseley and CHoP are available today.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Funny thing is Moseley was mediocre ephus junk in Scranton, but Cashman can’t miss out on him so he had to call him up, wouldn’t want to lose him.

    Meanwhile Albaladejo is pitching his behind off and gets the stiff for how long before a token callup.

  132. Phil in Columbus July 24th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Betsy
    The players in SWB feel the same way about him. This was from Donnie Collins

    Alby is a big piece of this team, for more reasons than 31 saves in 32 chances. His teammates marvel at the fact that he has been so consistent in the face of so much disappointment, in terms of not being called up. Granted, he knows that if the Yankees don’t give him a shot next year, another team will next year. But the fact remains, the Yankees have problems in their bullpen, and they’re keeping a guy who has developed into a terrific pitcher at Triple-A. It doesn’t make much sense, especially considering it would cost the Yankees nothing to just give him a look.

  133. mick July 24th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    But it doesn’t make sense to always imagine the worst case scenario.

    ====================================
    Doreen.
    That is the Post of the Year.
    It should be framed and hung next to the photo of Phil Hughes.

  134. MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    In Park’s last 7 appearances since June 29th he’s gone 8 1/3 innings with 5 hits and 2 runs, 1 walk, 7 K’s. It seems to me he’s pitching a lot better than earlier in the season but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good vent…

  135. Mark-Cant Touch This July 24th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Gaudin pitched yesterday, he can’t go today, Mirtre is going today and has not been fully stretched out so they need another long man so they don’t kill the bullpen, that is why Moseley is still on the team. IT’S COMMON SENSE PEOPLE.

  136. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    “# MG July 24th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Park has sucked this year but he’s also a veteran major leaguer who may just wake up by the time the playoffs come around, that’s pretty much what happened with Marte last year and without him maybe the Yankees don’t win #27. Righties are hitting .214 against him, I could see him being used later in the year as a one or two batter specialist-that’s something Girardi did often in the playoffs last year. He isn’t making much money so there is no point in letting him go unless they firmly believe he’s done.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are right they need to use Park strictly against Rightie

    Park vs R – .214 AVG, .267 OBP, .371 SLG, .638 OPS , 4 BB, 18 K, 15 H, 2 2B, 3 HR, 10 RBI (67 AB)

    Park vs L – .362 AVG, .393 OBP, .672 SLG, 1.066 OPS, 3 BB, 8 K, 21 H, 4 2B, 4 HR, 13 RBI (57 AB)

    never let him face lefties, especially if a man is on base

  137. Mark-Cant Touch This July 24th, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    # Doreen July 24th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Mitre can give them 75-90 pitches, but they PLAN on that. So they can figure out how to use their bullpen.

    Albie got sent down because he has options and he would not pitch today anyway. As unreliable as they are, Moseley and CHoP are available today.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Funny thing is Moseley was mediocre ephus junk in Scranton, but Cashman can’t miss out on him so he had to call him up, wouldn’t want to lose him.

    Meanwhile Albaladejo is pitching his behind off and gets the stiff for how long before a token callup.
    _______

    The only reason why Moseley is on the team today is because there is a good chance they will need him today.

  138. Macfan July 24th, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    “# Mark-Cant Touch This July 24th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Gaudin pitched yesterday, he can’t go today, Mirtre is going today and has not been fully stretched out so they need another long man so they don’t kill the bullpen, that is why Moseley is still on the team. IT’S COMMON SENSE PEOPLE.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    I hope to goodness you are right, because Cashman sure seems to have gone out of his way to give Dustin Moseley a shot, staring with the need to call him up for fear of losing him.

  139. Stultus Magnus July 24th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Gaudin, Moseley, Ho Park, Mitre…

    I don’t see why Moseley or the Ho-man can’t be moved…or DFA’d.

  140. austinmac July 24th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

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    As for the bullpen, I think the Yankees will think Alby is potentially more valuable than Moseley, but the Yankees reasonably think a long man may be needed today and Gaudin is out.

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