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Moseley moving into rotation

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 26, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi just announced that Sergio Mitre will move back to the bullpen. Dustin Moseley will fill that spot on the rotation.

Girardi said he thinks Mitre, because of the injury, is better prepared to pitch out of the bullpen rather than the rotation at this point.

“I don’t think he’s physically ready to do it,” Girardi said.

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143 Responses to “Moseley moving into rotation”

  1. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 26th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    great move, for one start,,,then the pitcher (who?) we get before the trade deadline can take the next start after that ! ;-)

  2. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    DYD,

    I am not sure I understand your question in the last thread.

  3. Bronx Jeers July 26th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Interesting .

  4. mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    wow!

  5. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    And Werth can help the Yankees how? Don?t need him.

    Hitting dingers. Walking. Being a good base runner.

  6. Patrick July 26th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Wow stuckey stop sperging out about the blog. Nobody cares

  7. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    LA GM Tony Regans is asked how he pulled off the Haren trade ? I was half waiting for him to say; I took advantage of a novice GM in way over his head facing a serious payroll issue?

    By the way – for all the “experts” who are “plugged in with their sources” no one, not Heyman, Rosenthal, Morosi, Stark, Olney, Gammons, Verducci, etc…. had this Haren deal. They didn’t even have the Angels on their radar and Regans said he’s been working on it for months with the D’Backs.

    In other words, believe half of what you read and less of what you hear.

    Oh, and for those who think that the Yankees should overpay for Soria because he can replace Mo a couple of years from now; why don’t the Yankees also trade major prospects for Erick Aybar or Yuniel Escobar so that one of those guys can replace Jeter in a few years?

  8. Warning Track Power July 26th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    i hate to see this happen to Mitre because prior to his injury, he pitched very well.
    1 bad start, lasting less then 5 innings was the only opportunity given to him.
    Moseley certainly has pitched well enough to earn a start. no doubt about it.

  9. YankFanCA July 26th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    I like it. Mitre needs to be perfect to have even marginal success. No harm in giving Moseley a shot.

  10. mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    I guess they want to see what Mosely has. This is their opportunity.

  11. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    “why don’t the Yankees also trade major prospects for Erick Aybar or Yuniel Escobar so that one of those guys can replace Jeter in a few years?”

    —————————

    Because they will have nowhere to play over the next few years.

    Soria would still basically pitch the same amount of innings as a closer or set-up guy, just with a different label.

  12. Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Moseley totally deserves this opportunity after his performance Saturday

    I wish him the best of luck!

  13. mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    # mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    NEW POST==============>>>>>>>>>>>Mosely to start!!
    # Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    new thread :arrow:

    Moseley to start!
    =====================================
    Was that necessary?

  14. stuart a July 26th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    bad idea. mosely not only should not be starting he should not be on the team.

    yech… the guy strikes out no one. bad idea………..

    give nova 2 starts………….

    bad bad idea, total overreaction like the media and the spoiled fans… stupid…….

  15. Spiced Ham July 26th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Can’t be worse than Mitre

  16. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Soria could actually pitch more innings as a set up man than as a future closer when Mo does retire.

    The Yankees would probably use Soria more often than they would otherwise to keep Mo fresh, rested, and injury free.

  17. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Frankly I would just as soon give Ivan Nova a start, but that would require sending someone down which is why I think Mosley gets the start.

  18. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    sergio mitre, we are talking about the same gentleman who had 6.79 ERA last year. Let’s give Moseley a twirl , see how goes it.

  19. Frozen Rope July 26th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Girardi forgot to also add that Mitre’s stuff just isn’t that good anyway.

  20. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    “Wow stuckey stop sperging out about the blog. Nobody cares”

    I’m having a conversation with Jerkface, not playing to a crowd.

    Is that allowed here?

  21. mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    If Mosely does well there is still time to trade him.

  22. Warning Track Power July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Has anybody read what the weather forecast will be during this 4 game series???

  23. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Heyman is saying he still thinks Oswalt ends up in Philly – interesting since OSWALT is saying that he wants nothing to do with Philly.

  24. Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Was that necessary?
    ****************

    I wasn’t trying to be a jerk… I really just like the pretty arrow emoticon

  25. Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Warning Track Power July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    Has anybody read what the weather forecast will be during this 4 game series???
    **************

    Sunny with a chance of midges?

  26. stuart a July 26th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    are we worried about losing mosely or gaudin to another team???would that be a bad thing?

    this move is a head shaker…….mosely is not very good ….I love yankee fans say he deserves this from 1 4 inning relief appearance. I guess when he stinks those outings do not count………

    stupid stupid……….

  27. mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    erica
    express yourself by all means

  28. Giuseppe Franco July 26th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Kind of surprised but it really doesn’t matter all that much.

    There’s a good chance one guy was going to pitch 4 innings or so in his next start and the other would follow him for 4-5 innings.

  29. Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Reminder:

    On the MLB Network right now there is a big MLB Trade Special

  30. Bronx Jeers July 26th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Mosley’s made about a dozen starts down in Scranton this season.

  31. stuart a July 26th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    mosely can’t be worse then Mosely?/

    yes he can… balls hit in play sooner or later find holes…………….

  32. Warning Track Power July 26th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Between Mitre, Moseley and Gaudin, its easy to pick the weakest hurler of the 3.

  33. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    @chip, i would not mind seeing Nova. I think he pitched last night though. maybe the yanks will bring him up after trade deadline. or maybe, he won’t be here after TDL. too bad that Posada occupies the DH position every other days or 1/3 , would like to see more of Juan Gone Miranda! Sterling could work in a obscure line such as ‘ deep …far… gonnne…Juan read ’starting pitcher’ his Miranda.’

  34. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    I haven?t understood any response to be a ?reason?. I remember an ?instance? (when someone is home alone), but unless I missed a post, I think the behavior itself is still being regarded as a given not requiring of explanation.

    How I ?operate?. I don?t know what to tell you. Different circumstances, different reactions.

    I can tell you what I NEVER do, at home, online at a bar, or with 46k other fans at the stafium, which is to ridicule players for not playing well.

    I?d even go so far as to say I might get frustrated and my initial, emotional, knee-jerk reaction would be to get ?mad? or ?angry?, but that?s when I stop myself and don?t give in to it, and worse, indulge it by seeking similar reaction from others and justifying it by becoming part of a mob.

    Which is kind of the whole point of this conversation, isn?t it?

    I think you just don’t get the differences between things. I’ve told you reasons. They want to feel connected to the game, they want to let out their anger with people who will understand it (if not embrace it), its the thing that comes into their head and they just wanna post whatever they think. Take your pick, dude!

    You are acting like Bruce Banner, not trying to ‘give in to your anger’ or whatever. Fine, but most people don’t have that kind of control. Sports are high stakes for fans. Some people get very emotional over it. Look no further than our very own Trisha who has cried numerous times this season alone over a baseball game.

    Anything in which can be found a narrative or drama will stir emotions in people. You’re going to feel joy at your team winning, sadness when they lose, anger at a players inability to perform either over their time playing or in a clutch spot. REGARDLESS of how unfathomable these emotions are, people will feel them. And obviously they want to express them. Some people express them at a player, “joba you suck!” others just express it in general terms, “Son ova!”

    Hopefully you have a tiny understanding now of why people do this.

  35. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Perhaps Cashman is trying to maximize Nova’s off-season trade value. So teams can see his dominating AAA numbers and project for themselves, rather than risking Nova get knocked around a few times as a starter and having that be the last impression teams have of him…

  36. Patrick July 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    I’m having a conversation with Jerkface, not playing to a crowd.

    Is that allowed here?

    Clearly you didn’t understand the “brilliance” of my comment. You are complaining that people post useless comments on the blog so I complain about your useless comments. And around we go… keep truckin dude

  37. Giuseppe Franco July 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    # Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Heyman is saying he still thinks Oswalt ends up in Philly – interesting since OSWALT is saying that he wants nothing to do with Philly.

    ———

    I’m no fan of Heyman, but is Rosenthal really that much better?

    You said yourself that nobody was on the Haren deal. Rosenthal is the one who said that Oswalt doesn’t want to play with Philly.

    I find all of these guys off base most of the time.

  38. blake July 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    I really think registration has helped things around here. I can tell a big difference. Still some nonsense during games threads etc… But the impostering is virtually gone and I think the Trolls are having a much harder time as well….bravo Lohud staff.

    Start us off right tonight Javy!

  39. mick July 26th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    How did Mosely do against TB who they play this Sat.?
    That will , most likely, be the last start for either of them with an off day coming on Aug. 5

  40. DYD INDA WUL July 26th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    From the last thread:

    I’d go one further regarding MO, Jerkface: his imposing presence on the bench and potential to come into a game.

    A lights-out EIG, which the Yankees have been trying to nail down as long as I can recall, would make that potentiality even more imposing.

    LGY,

    It was a rhetorical question, responding to what I interpreted as your joking about Mo being on the mound for some of the worst Yankee losses in the last fifteen years (as I count them on one hand).

    Basically, I’m asking, rhetorically, who else would have been there.

  41. saucY July 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    meh… wish Sergio got another chance. but i guess Dustin deserves it….

  42. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    We have the phrase ‘mob mentality’ for a reason, obviously. People want to get in a big group and be angry together and feel validated. Reasons !! :x

  43. Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    stuart a July 26th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    are we worried about losing mosely or gaudin to another team???would that be a bad thing?

    this move is a head shaker…….mosely is not very good ….I love yankee fans say he deserves this from 1 4 inning relief appearance. I guess when he stinks those outings do not count………

    stupid stupid……….
    ********************

    As much as I love being called stupid, I will back up my opinion-

    1) Mitre is coming off injury and can’t give them the innings they need/want
    2) I could argue that Moseley’s outing Saturday did count since they were only down by 3 runs and by not giving up any more runs in that whole appearance kept the Yankees in the game
    3) Who else would you like to start? The Cy Young of Scranton- Kei Igawa?
    4) Chad Gaudin has had opportunities. Raise your hand if you were impressed? (Yeah, didn’t think so)

  44. Captain Clutch July 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Poor Angels…They actually have to trade some “prospects” and work their butts to make the playoffs. It hasn’t been like that for what 10 years?? They were just on cruise control because the Rangers were always so bad. Now they actually need to play.

  45. Apple byte July 26th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Mitre is better suited to be a long man out of the bullpen which is what he did before going on the DL. Mosely deserves the chance.

  46. Giuseppe Franco July 26th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    # stuart a July 26th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    mosely can’t be worse then Mosely?/

    yes he can… balls hit in play sooner or later find holes…………….

    ————

    What difference does it make?

    Both Mitre and Moseley are the same pitcher – long men w/ sinkers who are only starting because Pettitte is out.

    You also need someone to throw those innings. Moseley stepped up in his last appearance (against a good hitting team) and he’s getting a shot.

    It’s not exactly life or death.

  47. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Mitre will still get to pitch as Moseley’s caddie. Or as a long man if any of our starters go down, if he impresses and Moseley sucks they’ll probably start Mitre again.

  48. WithRuthianlikeStrengthTheHerovanquishedHisFoes July 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I think tonight’s the night for Alex. I saw him drink his BAZI, so it’s all good :) .

  49. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Here’s a scenario that would never happen:

    Yankees get BJ Upton

    Rays get Joba Chamberlain

    Two young guys who are seriously frustrating their current organizations but still have a ton of upside to their games.

    By the way – when we talk about Joba (and I’m as willing to move him as anyone) I would ask that you take a look at Delmon Young. He was as bad as can be over the last couple of seasons, and now he’s finally showing the ability that made him the first overall pick by Tampa back in the day.

  50. Jason Voorhees July 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @Cashmoney

    Sterling’s HR call for Miranda is “Juan Gone.” Nothing too crazy unfortunately.

  51. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    GF-

    I’m with you. I think Moseley and Mitre are pretty much interchangeable parts.

    If Joe wants to reward Moseley with the start fine with me.

    Both guys are likely nothing more than placeholders until AP returns.

    We are not talking about a ton of starts.

    Maybe they catch a little lightning in a bottle with Moseley.

    That’s fine by me. :)

  52. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    DYD,

    Oh I see.

    I wasn’t really joking though :???:

    It was in reference to my comment saying I think Jeter has been more valuable over the past 15 years and to the dynasty than Mariano.

    And when we think about how valuable Mo was over the past 15 years, I don’t think we should ignore that he has blown some huge games.

  53. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    # Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Heyman is saying he still thinks Oswalt ends up in Philly – interesting since OSWALT is saying that he wants nothing to do with Philly.

    ???

    I?m no fan of Heyman, but is Rosenthal really that much better?

    You said yourself that nobody was on the Haren deal. Rosenthal is the one who said that Oswalt doesn?t want to play with Philly.

    I find all of these guys off base most of the time.
    ——————

    It’s the entire profession; not just in sports but in all areas of media – everyone wants to be first more than they want to be right.

  54. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    there is a chance, a pretty good one I think that the Yanks will face the Rangers in the wildcard round. it would be a tall task to beat lee in a five game series.

  55. Yankee Trader July 26th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    We’re facing all right-handers. Expect Granderson to have a terrific series.

    Fausto Carmona-hope the Yankees work the count and work some walks.

    Bring up lefty Chad Tracy to play some 3rd and DH. Send down Miranda.

  56. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    GF -

    My theory on rumors posted by “insiders;” they should be viewed for entertainment purposes only and as fans we can use them as building blocks for our own silly trade suggestions.

  57. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    It’s the entire profession; not just in sports but in all areas of media – everyone wants to be first more than they want to be right.

    Dan Rather’ed

  58. Rich in NJ July 26th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Can we stop hearing this idiotic nonsense about trading Montero? If Cash is really offering him for Soria and it’s not media bs, he should be fired.

  59. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Trader -

    On Tracy it’s not that easy to just bring him up – Yankees would need to remove someone from the 40 man roster to add him.

    And he’s pretty awful defensively to boot. I don’t know if I want to see him at 3b.

  60. Nick in SF July 26th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    If Bill Bixby and Ed Norton and Eric Banna ever commented in the same game thread while Jorge Posada was airmailing a throw to second base, we would all be in grave peril.

  61. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    LGY-

    Could you please repost that list of guys who need to be protected from the rule 5 if you still have it handy ? Thanks in advance. :)

  62. Doreen July 26th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Tino Yankeeography is on now. It’s great. I don’t want the ending though. Never thought he should have been replaced. Still upsets me.

  63. jpb173 July 26th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    This is a rough break for Mitre. He was pitching well before he went on the DL. But in his rehab starts and Saturday’s start, he was nowhere near as good. Maybe he needs to get a few mop up efforts to get back into the groove (if Sergio Mitre has a goove). One thiong is for certain though, if he continues to pitch as he has since he began his rehab then he doesn’t belong on the Yankees as a reliever or a starter. He may be a nice guy, but if we’ve got someone better at Scranton (or via a trade) then DFA’ing him may be the best option. Its almost August and we can’t afford to wait a couple of months for him to straighten himself out.

  64. Disco July 26th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Mitre and Moseley both suck. We trying to lose games?

    Just give Nova a shot already.

  65. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    “I think you just don’t get the differences between things.”

    I think I do.

    “they want to let out their anger with people who will understand it (if not embrace it),’

    I KNOW I’ve asked you to explain the appeal of this, and I don’t recall an answer.

    “You are acting like Bruce Banner, not trying to ‘give in to your anger’ or whatever. Fine, but most people don’t have that kind of control. Sports are high stakes for fans. Some people get very emotional over it. Look no further than our very own Trisha who has cried numerous times this season alone over a baseball game.

    Anything in which can be found a narrative or drama will stir emotions in people. You’re going to feel joy at your team winning, sadness when they lose, anger at a players inability to perform either over their time playing or in a clutch spot. REGARDLESS of how unfathomable these emotions are, people will feel them. And obviously they want to express them. Some people express them at a player, “joba you suck!” others just express it in general terms, “Son ova!””

    Jerkface, you’re describing the reactive, a genuine immediate human response to stimuli.

    I’m criticizing the proactive. Someone taking fingers to keyboard, typing out a response (which an in intellectual exercise), and choosing to hit enter.

    Believe me, I get I’m an easy target when it comes to this (which is obvious, because of the two people having this conversation, I’M the one getting criticized for it). It’s easy to characterize me as the unfeeling autobot who has no fun watching a baseball game and wants to take away the joy from others.

    But that’s not really what we’re talking about, and I’m not afraid to put my neck out to say it.

    When people come here to “bash” and ridicule players, and to complain on end about how the bullpen sucks, and this and that, it’s a conscious, proactive ACT.

    The bridgejumpers that we both know come out when the Yanks are losing are not “expressing an emotion”, they’re choosing to do something very aware of it’s implications.

    i can have a conversation about this if you like, but if it’s necessary for you to characterize me as not understanding genuine human response in order to have it, let’s do us both a favor and move on.

  66. DYD INDA WUL July 26th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    I’ve watched Moseley ever time he’s pitched for the Yankees this year, and I’ve seen nothing other than good command and a consistent, located 94-95 FB.

    Have no problems with his starting the next two against Cleveland and Toronto. He’ll get skipped against BOS because of the off day. With luck, Pettitte should be returning for the next start.

  67. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    MTU,

    This article on RAB lays it out:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ash-31488/

  68. Warning Track Power July 26th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Moseley should get the start Thurs vs the indians

  69. WMD July 26th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Couldn’t believe the Angels headlined a trade for Haren with Joe Saunders. The same Joe Saunders who couldn’t get anyone out in the AL. And the same Joe Saunders with a career near 5 ERA and Yanks couldn’t top that? The perfect opportunity to rid themselves of Joba and not have to worry about which scrub to start in place of Pettitte.

  70. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    “If Bill Bixby and Ed Norton and Eric Banna ever commented in the same game thread while Jorge Posada was airmailing a throw to second base, we would all be in grave peril.”

    Your keen witticisms are two days behind the times Nick.

    Mark Ruffalo is the new Bruce Banner.

  71. Warning Track Power July 26th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    WMD-Take it easy. There are so many factors in making a trade. Do you really think the public is privy to all the inside info?
    AZ made their choice and that’s fine. More power to them.

  72. rotogod00 July 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Girardi said he thinks Mitre, because of the injury, is better prepared to pitch out of the bullpen rather than the rotation at this point.

    ?I don?t think he?s physically ready to do it,? Girardi said.

    hmmm, maybe you should have thought of that before you sent him out there.

  73. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    @jpb, the only reason was brought back from his less than stellar 2009 season was because Joe G likes him from in Marlin days. that, has not change since, nor has the fact the Mitre is a fringe MLB pitcher period.

  74. Giuseppe Franco July 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I was just saying to myself recently, “We just don’t get enough Incredible Hulk references on Lohud for me to stick around in this place.” LOL.

    Nick is good for a chuckle on occasion.

  75. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    LGY-

    I count roughly 5 potential losses according to the article. None significant.

    Reason I asked is to begin to think about some of the “dead wood” in the system.

    Me. I see a logjam beginning to develop at the upper levels.

    Trades should happen to clear some of it. :)

  76. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    I KNOW I?ve asked you to explain the appeal of this, and I don?t recall an answer.

    I?m criticizing the proactive. Someone taking fingers to keyboard, typing out a response (which an in intellectual exercise), and choosing to hit enter.

    When people come here to ?bash? and ridicule players, and to complain on end about how the bullpen sucks, and this and that, it?s a conscious, proactive ACT.

    The bridgejumpers that we both know come out when the Yanks are losing are not ?expressing an emotion?, they?re choosing to do something very aware of it?s implications.

    Posting on the internet isn’t much of an intellectual exercise. I’ve given reasons which I think you’ve overlooked. If you want to talk about why Matt comes in and does his schtick, its to make himself feel smarter, because he has feelings which he is certain contain baseball intelligence and bad things happening to the yankees justifies those feelings in him. He has an inkling, “The yankees offense really isn’t very good”, so when bad stuff happens he will post about it and feel smarter.

    People post stuff about Joba sucking because they want to commiserate, be a part of the ’smart crowd’ which KNOWS Joba sucks. Mob mentality and all.

    Why can’t you come to these conclusions on your own? They are as obvious as “Jorge Posada made a bad play.”

    The yankees losing gets them in a bad mood, they want to express it, so they pick their target. Most of all people want to be understood. They come to the blog and post “Joba chamberlain sucks!” Everyone immediately knows whats up.

    What kind of answer are you looking for here? I’ve thrown out pretty much everything.

  77. Nick in SF July 26th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Thank you, stuckey. I appreciate the update.

  78. Dylan July 26th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    Good. It can’t hurt to give Moseley a shot.

  79. Chip July 26th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    I have for weeks now been pushing for the Yankees to make a deal with the Pirates for Lastings Milledge and Joel Hanrahan. Milledge has been spectacular against LHP and Hanrahan has been light’s out from the pen.

    Well I want to add another name to the list – Ryan Doumit.

    A switch hitter that they can plug in at DH, C, RF, 1b with power and average – that would be a nice addition to this club.

  80. jpb173 July 26th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    @jpb, the only reason was brought back from his less than stellar 2009 season was because Joe G likes him from in Marlin days. that, has not change since, nor has the fact the Mitre is a fringe MLB pitcher period.

    —————————————————————————————————

    Cashmoney, being the “teacher’s pet” only lasts so long. Girardi has a boss (Brian Cashman) who might make a “command decision” if Mitre continues to pitch poorly. He is a different pitcher now than he was in the first two months of the season. The Yankees can’t spend the next 2 months trying to straighten him out. If he isn’t ready to compete then DFA him and let him go down to the Scranton (I doubt anyone will pick him up on waivers). If they DFA him it would open a spot on both the 25 man roster and the 40 man roster.

  81. m July 26th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Good move. Gee, Joe. If you had asked us we would’ve told you Mitre wasn’t ready.

    As for Mitre pitching well before the injury? That’s true. But starting is a different animal.

  82. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    And I think you’ve moved the subject of this debate a little bit. The game day thread negative posting is a bit different than just someone coming in here and talking about the bullpen/joba/whoever sucking. What exactly is the specific negativity that has you wondering?

    Answers for it happening could be as simple as trolling. It could just be they have an opinion and want to talk about it. Or just throw their voice out there because they think it might change someones mind. Why does anyone call into talk radio to say how much some guy stinks?

  83. DYD INDA WUL July 26th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Got it LGY. My fault. Didn’t read the entire thread, and assumed you were referring to the whole closer/Soria trade discussion. Not that that has any relevance.

    Anywho, it’s tough to keep up with you guys; it seems that you were all weened on keyboards.

    By the time I finish typing a thought, there’s a new thread. LOL

  84. Sweet Swinging Cano July 26th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Mosely deserves the shot. I love how people expect the yankees to have cc sabathia in every slot in the rotation. Maybe they will make a trade but Andy is going to return.

  85. Bronx Jeers July 26th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Just when I thought the Mitre Death Watch was going to make a triumphant return.

    What a disappointment.

    True, Joba’s about 1 bad inning away from having his own Death Watch but that’s more frustrating than entertaining.

  86. YankFanCA July 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Dustin Moseley versus Josh Tomlin, mano a mano: Catch it live at Whisky Dicks in Akron on Wednesday night.

  87. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    jpb173 , mitre is pretty much the 12th man on the staff. He will pitch in low leverage situations where he will do well or no so well in which case fans won’t care about either way. how do you think precisely he survived the 2009 season with 6.79 era. as far as being a ‘teacher’s pet’ goes, I am amazed that Cashman’s own little project ‘dragon snap curve CHOP’ has lasted til now. we will see i guess.

  88. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    “Posting on the internet isn’t much of an intellectual exercise.”

    I guess my point is when the internet is being used as to be as anti-intellectual as you can, and people strut about it, something is wrong.

    The knuckleheads have TV, and professional wrestling, and those restaurants with skeeball and videogames, and Nascar … can’t they leave my internet alone?

    “People post stuff about Joba sucking because they want to commiserate, be a part of the ’smart crowd’ which KNOWS Joba sucks. Mob mentality and all.”

    See, there is my point exactly.

    He’s got a 5.95 ERA, how far gone do you need to be think “Joba sucks” is an astute observation??

    “The yankees losing gets them in a bad mood, they want to express it, so they pick their target. Most of all people want to be understood. They come to the blog and post “Joba chamberlain sucks!” Everyone immediately knows whats up.”

    Just for the record, are you explaining it and/or defending it :-)

  89. Joey July 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    I’m not sure if I like this decision.

    It seems like a very rash decision, sure Moseley pitched well but he is a career minor leaguer (although that might only be because no one gave him a chance), and I’d like to see Mitre get another chance.

  90. Betsy July 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    I would go with Mo as MVP for the last 15 years. Ok, so he blew a few games, but Jeter has had some bad post-seasons recently and he certainly contributed (among other players) to some Yankees losses. Gee, I hate to even say that about Jeter because I don’t think it’s fair at all, but I was responding to LGY’s reasoning (not that he needs to explain choosing Jeter – either one would be a great choice).

    Wow on Moseley – Mosely’s pretty bad, but I guess Joe must have thought that Mitre (who is definitely better) is just better off as a long man.

    As to Oswalt, he’s certainly allowed – but I hope he doesn’t complain at the end of his career that he never won. The Phillies would give him a far greater shot, even if not this year, to win than that Stros would or will.

  91. Captain Clutch July 26th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Mitre shouldn’t even be on the roster whether its starting or relieving. After the injury he made 2 starts in the minors and gave up 6 runs in 7 innings. Thats great Yanks don’t rush the guy back or anything. Its unreal that the Yanks don’t have/don’t want to use a real starter in AAA to take Andy’s place. Nova can’t do better??

  92. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Just for the record, are you explaining it and/or defending it

    Explaining. Are you satisfied?

  93. CR9 July 26th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Massachusetts

    Fenway Park
    Boston Red Sox
    Vendors with critical violations: 4%

    Inspection report excerpt: Inspectors found raw steak that had warmed to almost 60 degrees, which was above safe temperatures.

    Gillette Stadium
    New England Patriots
    Vendors with critical violations: 0%

    Inspection report excerpt: No critical or major violations.

    TD Garden
    Boston Celtics, Boston Bruins
    Vendors with critical violations: 21%

    Inspection report excerpt: Storing dishwashing chemicals on top of an ice machine resulted in a critical violation for one location.

    ___

    Giants Stadium
    New York Giants, New York Jets (former)
    Vendors with critical violations: 20%

    Inspection report excerpt: Managers tossed 20 pounds of ground beef after inspectors cited them for letting partially grilled burgers with raw centers sit at unsafe temperatures for three hours before final cooking.

    New York

    Citi Field
    New York Mets
    Vendors with critical violations: 45%

    Inspection report excerpt: Inspectors found 20 pounds of grilled chicken registered at 70 degrees in a refrigerator, about 30 degrees warmer than allowed.

    Madison Square Garden
    New York Knicks, New York Rangers
    Vendors with critical violations: 61%

    Inspection report excerpt: At one stand, inspectors found “53 mouse excreta” (38 on top of a metal box underneath the cash registers in the front food-prep/service area and 15 on top of a carbonated-beverage dispensing unit).

    Yankee Stadium
    New York Yankees
    Vendors with critical violations: 48%

    Inspection report excerpt: Five hot dogs registered 91 degrees in a hot-holding unit when they were supposed to be no cooler than 140. Inspectors also had a vendor dump a bottle of Chivas Regal whiskey containing dead fruit flies.

    From ESPN.com. I think it’s pretty obvious that the inspectors were Boston fans!

  94. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    He?s got a 5.95 ERA, how far gone do you need to be think ?Joba sucks? is an astute observation

    I don’t think the people you are targetting care how astute they appear.

  95. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    “Why does anyone call into talk radio to say how much some guy stinks?”

    EXACTLY…

    THAT’s the question I’m trying to get an answer to.

    Sorry, don’t mind saying it, but I think calling into talk radio is somewhat akin to sniffing glue.

    I get that people do it and they obviously get something from it, but I think someone trying to stop them is in fact the responsible thing to do.

  96. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Moseley is part of group of final team auditions before TD re-configuration occurs.

    Cash trying to see what he has before final tweaking.

    Reinforcements will be called upon to arrive at the front shortly thereafter. :)

  97. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    “I don’t think the people you are targetting care how astute they appear”

    “People post stuff about Joba sucking because they want to commiserate, be a part of the ’smart crowd’ which KNOWS Joba sucks. Mob mentality and all.”

    Choose a postion… :-)

  98. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Just Say No!….

    to calling into a radio show

  99. Betsy July 26th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    I’ll be glad when the trade deadline comes and goes so we can quit the Soria talk. They wouldn’t even listen for Montero -so that’s it as far as the Yankees go. IF they trade him, they are going to make the other team rape their farm system……….

  100. Joey July 26th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    “Posting on the internet isn’t much of an intellectual exercise.”

    I guess my point is when the internet is being used as to be as anti-intellectual as you can, and people strut about it, something is wrong.

    The knuckleheads have TV, and professional wrestling, and those restaurants with skeeball and videogames, and Nascar … can’t they leave my internet alone?

    “People post stuff about Joba sucking because they want to commiserate, be a part of the ’smart crowd’ which KNOWS Joba sucks. Mob mentality and all.”

    See, there is my point exactly.

    He’s got a 5.95 ERA, how far gone do you need to be think “Joba sucks” is an astute observation??

    “The yankees losing gets them in a bad mood, they want to express it, so they pick their target. Most of all people want to be understood. They come to the blog and post “Joba chamberlain sucks!” Everyone immediately knows whats up.”

    Just for the record, are you explaining it and/or defending it

    ———————————-

    First of all, please don’t put videogames in the same category as NASCAR, some of us gamers are actually pretty smart.

    Second, yes, Joba has sucked this year, but I am one of the people that think that Joba can (hopefully) turn it around. Joba really hasn’t had a chance to prove himself as an unrestricted started in the majors yet and as a starter is where I think he would perform the best.

  101. blake July 26th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    ” Yankees are being very hush hush, doors are closed and nobody is talking”

    Lost via twitter.

    a) calm before the storm
    b) everyone taking a nap
    C) gone fishing.
    D) office movie time
    E) other.

  102. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    People want to be heard stuckey, they want to make their presence and opinions (no matter how stupid) known. Most of the time, the stupider the opinion, the more that person wants to shout it.

    My talk radio question was rhetorical, they want to call in because when they talk everyone listening to the radio will hear them. Its their chance to let people know just how much Joba sucks and why *blank* should replace him.

    Wow I’m awesome and smart, people the radio/internet/blog/the bar/the stadium heard MY opinion.

    Haven’t you ever encountered someone at a sports bar who thinks he knows a lot about a sport? And he revels in dispensing this information to everyone around him? Makes him feel good. “Heh, this guy stinks, he got a 5.9 era!” “Wow Mr Bar guy, you’re so awesome!”

    What confuses me most is how you couldn’t see this???

  103. mick July 26th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Mitre has a future (this year?) as a long man/mop-up guy, a position he has earned over Mosely.
    If I had to guess it will be Mitre over Mosely in the pen the rest of the season, with Mitre serving as Aceves replacement.
    Might as well put him in that position immediately as it’s more important than a 5th starter with 2 starts remaining.

  104. Captain Clutch July 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Heyman or one of his media buddies needs to come up a new rumor about a player that the Yanks are trying to get. It was fun when the Yanks were connected to Lee and Haren and then waiting to see if it would happen. Cashmoney get back on the phones!!!

  105. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    LPATR

    Lohud Posters Against Talk Radio Unite!

  106. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Blake-

    F) High stakes poker game. Everybody all in. Great suspense. :)

  107. Jerkface July 26th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Choose a postion?

    The opinion isn’t the smart thing, its the group of people with the opinion that are ’smart’.

  108. Captain Clutch July 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    ” Yankees are being very hush hush, doors are closed and nobody is talking”
    ————–

    Probably because there is nothing going on…..

  109. LGY July 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Friends Don’t Let Friends Call Talk Radio

  110. Betsy July 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....cantu.html

    Quote:
    3:55pm: The Rangers are “closing in” on a deal for Cantu, a source tells Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com.

  111. Betsy July 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Rangers are a very dangerous team – esp. now that they are spending other teams’ $$$

  112. mick July 26th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    IF they trade him, they are going to make the other team rape their farm system……….
    ===================================================
    This is the 2nd time you have made this reference, I wonder how you’d feel if a male made it?

  113. CR9 July 26th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Not even spending their own money, and they can acquire players that could have helped us. How is this allowed to happen? Oh wait, it’s Bud Selig!

  114. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Betsy-

    I hope the Rangers beat out the Angels for the ALW title this year.

    I never could stand Scioscia. ;)

  115. blake July 26th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Did anybody ever explain how the Rangers are being allowed to add payroll right now?

  116. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    i be interested to see Vegas’s line on Rangers Vs Yanks in a five game series.

  117. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Blake-

    I am not sure anyone REALLY knows.

    Wouldn’t the bankrupcy court have to approve such expenditures ?

  118. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    It more likely to be the Yankees against the Central division winner in the first round assuming TB as the wilcard.

  119. Betsy July 26th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    MTU, the Rangers are a very good team – I’m not rooting for them in any way. Then again, I’m not rooting for the Angels either.

  120. Sweet Swinging Cano July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Yeah Ivan Nova will pitch some shutouts!

  121. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Does anyone know if the season ends today, will we face the Rangers or Central Div winner?

  122. blake July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    MTU,

    I would think…itd be nice if one of the resident lawyers could chime in and explain this cause I don’t get it.

  123. Yogi Mantle July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Selig thinks that the Rangers going to the post season will net the Rangers millions, that is supposed to offset the money being spent on increasing their payroll.

    Not that it really makes any sense.

  124. mick July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    I don’t know who said it but it was said the Yanks have a good chance of meeting the Rangers in the wildcard round or as some would say the ALDS.
    Therefore beating Lee in that round would be difficult.

    For the naive, don’t fret too much, as of now we would face the winner of Chi/Minn/det and maybe if the Rangers could take out TB, then face Lee.

    My bet would be on TB in that scenario.

  125. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    “First of all, please don’t put videogames in the same category as NASCAR, some of us gamers are actually pretty smart.”

    I got no problem with videogames. But when someone asks “would like the pasta primavera with your tokens, I draw the line…

  126. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Betsy-

    Then it would appear you have a dilemma. It will be one of them. :)

  127. Erin July 26th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Good for Moseley! I’d say he definitely deserves a shot.

  128. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Cano-

    The Central.

  129. CR9 July 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “Did anybody ever explain how the Rangers are being allowed to add payroll right now?”

    No. But I’ll explain it. They have a decent/good chance of beating the Yankees in a playoff series – if the Yankees make it to the playoffs.

  130. m July 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    It doesake sense, but that doesn’t make it right. Anyone know why the team is bankrupt?

  131. Betsy July 26th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    Not really MTU, the Yankees have a dilemma; I’m not even thinking playoffs at this point. The Yanks will have to beat whoever they face so there’s no point in worrying

  132. MTU July 26th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    m-

    poor management. :)

  133. mick July 26th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Take your time Betsy, but I will be leaving soon.

  134. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    LGY, all kidding aside, if you actually dial the number and wait on hold to be verbally dressed down by Mike Francesca, who I have to give some measure of respect to for being so completely open about this utter disdain for his callers, something is missing somewhere.

    I guess this is about the time I suggest you all go find “Big Fan” starring Patton Oswalt on cable or PPV.

  135. Cashmoney July 26th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    CR9 July 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    “Did anybody ever explain how the Rangers are being allowed to add payroll right now?”

    No. But I’ll explain it. They have a decent/good chance of beating the Yankees in a playoff series – if the Yankees make it to the playoffs.
    ———————————————————————————————————–
    agree,they are dangerous. but then again , so is TB or Boston , if TB or Boston makes it. it’s gonna be a long and treacherous road to the WS.

  136. mick July 26th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    NEW THREAD=========================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  137. stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Jerkface, I honestly don’t even think we’re arguing anymore. I think we’re agreeing more.

    And successfully observing something and understanding it are two different things.

    I’m smart enough to know that people will act like they do in a game thread when the Yankees are behind, but I’m not smart enough to understand it, and don’t want to ever relate to it.

  138. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Tangential Discussion, re: emotions

    If there was one thing I wish I could give back in life, it’s the crying thing. Believe me it’s a constant source of embarrassment for me. Apparently just about everything in life touches me very deeply. I have cried over Peter Wilhousky’s arrangement of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, sung by just about any chorus; any sad story, told by anybody; any joyful story; watching Mo get 3 Ks to end a game; reading about cruelty to animals; watching Robbie Alomar and Omar Vizquel turn one of the most beautiful double plays at the Stadium that I think I will ever see; the vulnerability on the face of BYKim collapsing on the mound at the Stadium during the 2001 World Series after his second blown save; watching the DBack players rally round him after he did that; seeing any player down on the field after getting hit by a ball. I guess you get the picture.

    Sometimes when I cry over things having to do with the game, I think I mention it because I am hoping against hope that someone will echo the sentiment, saying they also had tears in their eyes so I don’t always feel like some kind of weirdo.

    Crying is a weird ass thing.

    Yet I can honestly say that Yankee wins and losses don’t elicit any particular emotion from me. Specific plays may make me well with pride or cringe a little, but they don’t stay with me (except maybe for the toss pass from Jeter to Jorge in the playoffs at Oakland, oh my God). As much as I always believe that the Yankees will prevail – and I definitely do again this season – if they were to lose the only disappointment I would feel would be FOR them, not IN them.

    I don’t want you to think that I spend my life crying, because I don’t. I am not prone to mood swings so it isn’t some kind of hormonal thing. It’s just the curse of the emotions I guess. Too much empathy isn’t a good thing, but I guess you’re born with it. I can’t give it back, else I would. Believe me.

    Oh yeah, seeing someone else cry definitely does me in. My brothers and sisters once suggested that I rent myself out for wakes and funerals. And they used to call me Toonces the Crying Cat.

    :(

  139. Joey July 26th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    stuckey99 July 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    “First of all, please don’t put videogames in the same category as NASCAR, some of us gamers are actually pretty smart.”

    I got no problem with videogames. But when someone asks “would like the pasta primavera with your tokens, I draw the line…

    ——————

    LOL! Ok yea, I remember going to a D&B’s for my 12th birthday and even then I remember it being kinda dumb.

  140. Tn Yankee July 26th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Why is BG batting 9th?

  141. Guru Man July 26th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Taking Mitre out after one start wreaks of no plan. This is just like moving Joba back and forth and changing how they would handle him…NO plan. Mitre stunk, but after one start they pull the plug? Seems a bit quick to me especially for a guy I think most of were thinking would be cut before his last (only) good outing? Mitre had pitched very well, why not give him a shot again? Do they think he is better suited out of the pen?

  142. Erica in NY July 26th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    New thread :arrow:
    Pregame notes

  143. Rich in NJ July 28th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    I like it.

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