Game 100: Yankees at Indians
YANKEES (63-36)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Francisco Cervelli C
Brett Gardner LF
RHP A.J. Burnett (8-8, 4.77)
Burnett vs. Indians
INDIANS (42-58)
Trevor Crowe CF
Asdrubal Cabrera SS
Shin-Soo Choo RF
Carlos Santana C
Travis Hafner DH
Austin Kearns LF
Matt LaPorta 1B
Andy Marte 3B
Jason Donald 2B
RHP Fausto Carmona (10-7, 3.51)
Carmona vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m. / MY9
UMPIRES: HP Dale Scott, 2B Jerry Meals, 3B Mark Wegner, 3B Dan Iossogna
WEATHER: Rain. It’s supposed to clear out, but right now it’s coming down and Mark Feinsand has declared that the sky looks like Independence Day… The movie, not the national holiday.
SO LONG JHONNY: Jhonny Peralta is only 2-for-11 in his career against A.J. Burnett, but one of those hits is a home run and he has 6 RBI in those at-bats, the most of any Indians hitter. The only other Indians with more than one career hit against Burnett are Trevor Crowe (2-for-4) and Travis Hafner (6-for-18 with a homer).
FROM LEFT FIELD: Brett Gardner has eight outfield assists, the most on the Yankees. Four of those assists have come in July. He is tied for the third-most outfield assists in the Majors. Only Jose Bautista has more in the American League.
STILL THE BEST: Despite CC Sabathia taking the loss last night, the Yankees still have the top three individual winning percentages in the American League with Andy Pettitte (.846), Phil Hughes (.800) and Sabathia (.765).
UPDATE, 7:04 p.m.: The tarp is just now coming off the field. Looks like we’ll start fairly soon, but we still haven’t been given a time.
UPDATE, 7:07 p.m.: First pitch at 7:40.
UPDATE, 7:55 p.m.: It’s not a home run, but a two-out single by Rodriguez has given the Yankees a 1-0 lead in the first inning. Personally, I think he’ll hit it today. I’m going to guess sixth inning.
UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Terrific slide by Curtis Granderson to give the Yankees a 2-0 lead. Granderson, Cervelli and Gardner had three straight hits, and Granderson cashed in with a slide that wrapped around the tag and left just enough room for his hand to slap the plate.
UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Teixeira has been awfully good since that bad series in Toronto. That’s a two-out, two-run single for a 4-0 Yankees lead. Oh, and Rodriguez still hasn’t hit 600. He just popped out.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: Hit by a back swing last night. Now a pitch to the elbow. Francisco Cervelli has awful, awful luck. No one needs that big helmet more than he does. Meanwhile, a triple by Granderson and double by Gardner have pushed the lead to 6-0.
UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: Rodriguez strikes out with the bases loaded, but the Yankees got three runs in the third to chase Carmona and take a 7-0 lead.
UPDATE, 9:12 p.m.: Robinson Cano has his 19th home run for an 8-0 Yankees lead. Keep an eye on that Cano kid. He’s going places.
UPDATE, 9:37 p.m.: A 1-2-3 inning means Rodriguez will get his fourth at-bat in the sixth inning. My prediction has a chance.
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Well, I was close. Rodriguez one-hops the wall for a double, then pulls second base out of the ground on his slide into the bag.
UPDATE, 10:25 p.m.: Another very good start from A.J. Burnett. It’s now Joba Chamberlain on to pitch with one out and one on in the seventh inning.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Chamberlain pitched around a balk, Sergio Mitre pitched a scoreless eighth and we’re mercifully into the ninth inning. Even without that rain delay, this would have been a long game.





I swear to god if there is a swarm of midges…
Jerkface, that’s insulting………I really don’t see why I should respond to you, but I will and then that’s it. Sorry, I’m not interested in trading Joba for a one and done deal – a player who has no part to play in the team’s future.
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You’re insulting. Look at what was written and look at your reaction to it. “If a deal comes along that the yankees think will help them win this year, they might trade him.” No where does it say “and not help them for the future”. Your immediate reaction to that is “Wow the yankees are so down on Joba, they must hate him.” You’re taking a completely ridiculous leap of logic to get from “The yankees would move Joba in the right deal” to “The yankees are down on Joba and just want to move him.”
you constantly read into things far too much and let your imagination run wild adding in extra negative connotations to phrases.
And stop saying “you shouldn’t respond but you will this 1 time and then thats it”, its insulting to everyone here.
SJ, earlier today there was some reflection about the special relationship you had with Pete Abraham……I still crack up when I think back to you calling him out…..He never really messed with the you though…..
GB, earlier we were reflecting about that special bond you enjoyed with The Diet Coke dude….I still crack up when I think back
I don’t think I’d trade Joba for Dunn but you throw Capps in there then I’d start to think about it as well because that addresses two problems and also goes beyond this season. I don’t have a problem trading Joba and in some respects I think they should….I just think it needs to be the right deal.
SO LONG JHONNY ….. just traded to the Tigers
I kinda wanted Peralta. Serviceable backup at SS/3B.
Ok, I’m insulting…….whatever. I didn’t bother to read the rest of your post……
LGY, perhaps he could grow into an EIG……….or a Robertson type. I admit I’m all over the map with Joba; the end result is that I think if we trade him too early, it will come back and bite us (even if he’s just a set-up guy and not a starter).
Laura, I don’t disagree…….but then we’re setting a precedent of giving up on young pitchers too early.
SJ, I have no interest in Dun – never liked him. The Yankees can win without him – he is a strikeout machine. Ok, he’ll hit HRs….. but again, the Yankees don’t need him. He doesn’t want to DH anyway…… Capps? I wouldn’t trust him or any other reliever we would get in the posts-season. He’s doing well for a team with absolutely zero pressure
Just rain the game out – I will bin e really annoyed if this game gets delayed in the middle and we have to burn out the pen (not that we might not have to anyway with AJ on the mound)
BE, not bin e………..
I might be wrong but I think joba is done in NY, it could be the rabbit ears,maybe a injury or being out of shape…he looks like he put a lot of weight on
Chad-
It doesn’t hurt that CC, Hughes and Pettitte are getting 6+ runs of support. That kind of support might include Vazquez.
Angels lost Piniero for 6-8 weeks. Haren back on the block?? lol
By all means, continue to take incredible leaps of logic to justify your pessimism
Pat M. July 28th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
GB, earlier we were reflecting about that special bond you enjoyed with The Diet Coke dude….I still crack up when I think back
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I may be an ass at times, but that guy is still a jerl. It would have all stopped without the nasty emails.
Just catching up on some of the posts. I see that it’s more of the same BS. I doubt that I missed anything.
How are things going out there in the “Warm California Sun”?
Rain out? So that they can play a double header tomorrow or give up a much needed day off during the stretch? This is the only time they visit Cleveland right?
First pitch at 7:40.
Right Now7:05
PM
EDT
72 ° ThunderstormsFeels Like 72°
Relative Humidity 97%
Barometer 29.97(Steady)atm
Dew Point 71 °
Visibility 6.00 Miles
UV Index 0 Low
Wind Speed WSW 8 mph Tonight
Scattered thunderstorms. A few storms may be severe. Low 20C. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
Scattered showers and thunderstorms, especially during the evening. A few storms may be severe. Low 69F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
88 High
Cleveland Weather Report
I hope that will be it for the rain……..
did anyone just watch the Andy preview YES had on. I’m pretty sure Andy made a dirty joke. :shocked:
You play and avoid a DH at all costs.
The last thing you want is a DH the day before you play the Rays.
That will mess up the pitching even more than a shortened game tonight.
Hey GB, you back home now?
It better not get rained out!
I have tix to Sunday’s game and want to see CC! Last time I saw him pitch, he almost threw that no-hitter in Tampa!
Angels are in a world of hurt for starting pitchers right now. If the plans are to make a run at the west, I’m betting on them going after Lilly.
# NYY626 – Andy in 2011 July 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
did anyone just watch the Andy preview YES had on. I’m pretty sure Andy made a dirty joke. :shocked:
Dirty for him.
Betsy, I see what you are saying, but I think that time has run out for Joba.
Afternoon/evening, Bronx. Yeah, I got in about an hour and a half ago. Hopefully, I can stay awake for the game. I’m just about beat from everything. It’s been a long 3 days.
# GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Angels are in a world of hurt for starting pitchers right now. If the plans are to make a run at the west, I’m betting on them going after Lilly.
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Not a lot left for them to give up.
NYY626
I did just watch that. I didn’t catch a possible “dirty joke,” but I’m a little slow on those kinds of things…
It was a good tease, wasn’t it? I can’t wait to see the entire show!
I can imagine my friend. Am glad you got away from Nurse Boris… was worried
GB, it’s been very unusually cool out here….I don’t think we’ve had more than 5 days over 80, and at night it’s cool as the temp sits around 60……My heater went on last night …..As for your pal in Boston, some of the funniest nights were when you’d go right at him…..He expelled many, but only took you so far and then backed off…….MLB wants to get this game in…It’s the end of July, no doubleheaders please
GB7
Glad to hear you are back, so results ok i hope….
“dirty joke” …. re: his wife “Oh yeah, we talked” …. dirty for him. It was mostly the tone in his voice and look on his face
The Beast is out stalking the cemeteries for her next victim, Bronx. That is one scary creature.
I am hoping that one day, now that LoHud has gone to registration, that the next gift they give is an ignore feature.
I am so sick of skimming through posts by Betsy complaining about people attacking her when she herself initiates most of them.
Thanks, Luis. All went well and I got a clean bill of health. I appreciate the kind thoughts.
GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Afternoon/evening, Bronx. Yeah, I got in about an hour and a half ago. Hopefully, I can stay awake for the game. I’m just about beat from everything. It’s been a long 3 days.
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Feel better GB7
If you’d like, I will bake a loaf of beer bread and let someone else eat it in your honor!
CK in LA =
See, I didn’t take it that way. I figured by then they’d gotten around to her telling him what to do.
Doreen July 28th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
NYY626
I did just watch that. I didn’t catch a possible “dirty joke,” but I’m a little slow on those kinds of things…
It was a good tease, wasn’t it? I can’t wait to see the entire show!
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LOL Doreen, it was very subtle. Andy had said that it took his wife almost a year to talk to him when they started dating. Then Kay said, “did she talk to you when you got married?” Andy replied “OH Yeah, she talked” and I interpreted him saying that with a little innuendo. However, “knowing” andy, he probably meant nothing by it.
GB7 -
So glad you got a clean bill of health. Relax and enjoy – fall asleep if you must. You deserve it.
NYY626-
Maybe he meant that she nagged him.. lol
CK in LA July 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
“dirty joke” …. re: his wife “Oh yeah, we talked” …. dirty for him. It was mostly the tone in his voice and look on his face
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LOL ok so I wasn’t the only one…
GB7
Glad to hear everything is fine
GB, all kidding aside, glad things went smoothly in Florida…..We need to start thinking about a filed trip to Florida in March……SJ is a gas
great news gb7, glad to hear you’re doing well
GB- welcome back home. Glad you escaped “The Beast”. It sounded very scary.
Almost as scary, I’m sure, as Joba coming into a game with a one-run lead
OK, I’m really rooting for him. I really am. It’s just that as I get older, the gastric lining gets more sensitive.
Doreen – well, there’s that too!
That seemed like a pretty dirty laugh to me.
I won’t be able to see the rest of it out here. Only get the games.
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chrissa
Erica – you’re probably right lol. And did I not call it this morning that there would be some kind of delay/and or long game. GRRRR
Field trip…..
Santana is losing 6-0 for the Mets in the 1st inning. Wow.
Heard on ESPN radio that the Yankees are the front runners for Adam Dunn.
Take that for what it’s worth
Yogi Mantle, delusional as always.
Laura, you could be right…………
NYY626 – Andy in 2011 July 28th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Erica – you’re probably right lol. And did I not call it this morning that there would be some kind of delay/and or long game. GRRRR
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You sure did!
And I really need to go to bed early. Watch this be a suspenseful pitcher’s duel so that you can’t even turn it off.
Pat M. July 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
GB, it’s been very unusually cool out here….I don’t think we’ve had more than 5 days over 80, and at night it’s cool as the temp sits around 60……My heater went on last night …..As for your pal in Boston, some of the funniest nights were when you’d go right at him…..He expelled many, but only took you so far and then backed off…….MLB wants to get this game in…It’s the end of July, no doubleheaders please
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That’s pretty decent weather out there for you guys, pat. Maybe it will help keep down the annual brush fires that attack just about now.
He annoyed me until he got personal in the emails. The only thing they I regret saying to him was a remark about him and donuts. that was uncalled for.
I made no secret about why I have no use for writers/jounalists, but, he couldn’t accept that, and he just got nastier. The fact that he had no sense of humor but thought he did, didn’t help. As far as his inside info, the only reason that he had any was because he hung around there. He had no other place to go and he was always sniffing around Jones.
It would be huge if AJ could get on a roll here down the stretch…maybe he builds off his last outing and starts it tonight.
Thank you Doreen. If I start typing and you guys suddenly see:
klpotfhke4ijgv,floo9zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
It’s not a typo. Just me falling asleep and my face hitting the keyboard.
GB–Glad you made it home and especially with good news. Let’s hope you can stay awake and the Yankee offense doesn’t put you to sleep.
GB – my first post got eaten by the filter. (You think the Beast is working the LoHud filter?)
Anyway – I’m glad you’re back home, bless you. Rest up, let’s hope the Yankees get you a win, and get right back at it.
Boy, can I use a ballgame tonight….
i am setting the expectations low in TB, hopefully we win one game.
Gee, Erica, you’re all heart. I suppose you no somebody that might help eat that freshly baked beer bread.
I hope that Bert’s and Ernie’s noses fall off in their soup.
Thanks, Mac. I’m trying to decide if I need to order a delivery pizza or just sleep. I’d hate to order it and not be awake when it gets here. I appreciate the kind thoughts, Bud.
From what I read Dr. Joe, you have had quite a day. You deserve more than a game. You deserve a win!
GB7
It’s good you had good results.
Have you gotten a get well card from the Globe?
Thanks for the words and thoughts, Joe. I’m thinking about buying her a plane ticket to Boston and let her chase Youkilis and beckett around for a couple of months.
GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Gee, Erica, you’re all heart. I suppose you no somebody that might help eat that freshly baked beer bread.
I hope that Bert’s and Ernie’s noses fall off in their soup.
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That is so mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wild and bold prediction alert:
I was about to shower at 7:30 when I had a feeling I should wait until A-Rod bats.
I am predicting #600 will come in the first inning
# Anthony Murillo July 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Heard on ESPN radio that the Yankees are the front runners for Adam Dunn.
Take that for what it’s worth
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worth a lot of strike outs.
Yes, Maine, I did get a card. I wonder what is the purpose in sending fish heads wrapped in newspaper to somebody?
Johan Santana got lit up in the first inning of the Met game. Looked like he wouldn’t last past the 1st.
Erica, it’s not as mean as teasing me with fresh baked beer bread….unless you’re Bert and ernie, I suppose.
GB7
That was so you could make some chowder.
Jeremy July 28th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Johan Santana got lit up in the first inning of the Met game. Looked like he wouldn’t last past the 1st.
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I have a friend who crucified Cashman for all of 2008 and 2009 for not trading for him.
Now all of a sudden he is all like, “I am glad we didn’t do that”
GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Erica, it’s not as mean as teasing me with fresh baked beer bread….unless you’re Bert and ernie, I suppose.
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I know a woman who used to work for Sesame Workshop. About 10 years ago a big boy band was on and there were strict rules about guests coming to the set, so she brought a camcorder to work so her daughter could get a look at the group.
She showed me the tape…. all I could see was Ernie and Bert hanging in a closet in the background and I freaked out. And not in a good way.
Pat M. July 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
GB, all kidding aside, glad things went smoothly in Florida…..We need to start thinking about a filed trip to Florida in March……SJ is a gas
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That sounds great, Pat. Some spring training games in March sound just about perfect. I can regale you guys with my experiences with Orville on the golf course. I wouldn’t advise eating anything before hand, though. It was never the prettiest sight.
i never understood the dislike for Adam Dunn..personally i love the guy and think he is underrated…People look at the big K totals but ignore the production….
the guy is as consistent with his production as anyone…you can write it down every year for 100 rbi’s and 40 homers, not to a mention a 380+ obp…love the guy, for the right price (i emphasis the right price) hes totally worth it
Welcome back Sarge. I see you’re ‘vacation’ with Nurse Boris went well. Switched charts on them again, huh? In all seriousness, glad you’re ok. The crew here was ready to mount a rescue mission.
Erica, please, no visuals.
She showed me the tape…. all I could see was Ernie and Bert hanging in a closet in the background and I freaked out. And not in a good way
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LMAO. That would be like seeing your body hanging on a hook, wouldn’t it?
Heard on ESPN radio that the Yankees are the front runners for Adam Dunn.
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Adam usually hit HRs, Walks, or Strikeouts. I wouldn’t mind of getting him at all. Depends what we have to give up of course, I don’t think he will come cheaply by any means as he is type A free agent and warrants two draft picks.
MaineYankee July 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
GB7
That was so you could make some chowder.
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Jesus, Maine. I just got the dry heaves.
GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
LMAO. That would be like seeing your body hanging on a hook, wouldn’t it?
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It physically hurt to see.
game on guys
GB, for some reason I see Nurse Karloff as The Youk in a white nurse uni….Beard and all
Erica in NY
That’s a good one by your friend. I was happy Cashman didn’t trade for Santana. You could tell that his best days were behind him and I wanted to see Hughes develop into a star.
~~The Yankees’ top five trade chips~~
By Mike Axisa:
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ips-32771/
Awesome read.
Alex looks loose tonight
Its not a home run, but I am happy for the RBI
Guess my wild and bold prediction was off
nice rbi
Not #600 but a nice piece of hitting by Alex for the RBI…thats good to see.
All you read about is Rodriguez’ lack of power this year, but, nobody talks about the lack of power from Ryan Braun )16) or Longoria (14) homers.
nice job alex
Adam Dunn
Pat M. I see the exact same thing. Scary.
Pat M. July 28th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
GB, for some reason I see Nurse Karloff as The Youk in a white nurse uni….Beard and all
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Yeah, that just about describes her.
Btw- I would like to dedicate that 1st inning run to those people who complained last night that the Yankees never do that
GB, for some reason I see Nurse Karloff as The Youk in a white nurse uni….Beard and all
That’s a scary proposition!!
d2mm cano.
need to get him hitting. he hitting 238 in july
Johnny Damon hit a home run
Glad to hear about the clean bill of health GB7…trolls beware
Arod is on pace for about 140 RBI’s….I’ll take it.
Simon, that would be a one way mission, strctly a suicide mission. what a beast.
And that’s a 21-game hit streak for Buster Posey!
Alex is also on pace for 41 doubles which would be the most he’s had since he hit 54 in 1996.
Maybe he hasn’t hit no 600, but i certainly like arod’s aproach… just being productive, the hr thing will come eventually
looks like the good AJ has shown up.
Thanks for the kind thoughts, Blake. I want the homer, but, it’s the run production that I care about.
Can someone copy/paste Matt’s post about Arod’s hitting approach when he got that RBI single? I can’t find it.
Nice throw by Cervelli…..
good throw, good tag….good play.
Choo can really play….that wasn’t a great pitch but that dude can hit.
is the field still wet? Nick spazzed out a bit there
Blake ….Good point about Alex, he has 82 rbi’s……He’s a run producer
Choo is the one guy in their lineup that you have to make good pitches to. He was all over that bad curveball.
Nick,
It must have gotten eaten by the filter
Choo & Sizemore would be a pretty good duo next year. they prolly will trade one of them soon enough, but , eh.
So, AJ’s pitching backwards….I like it. Give them a different look. So far, so good.
Why has Jeter become such a notorious 1st ball hitter?
I think it is why his BA is as low as it is.
His job as leadoff man should be to take some pitches, get into a hitters count, as he did last season, with Damon doing the same behind him.
Captain Clutch July 28th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Choo is the one guy in their lineup that you have to make good pitches to. He was all over that bad curveball.
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that Carlos Santana kid can rake as well.
If NYYs make a deal for Dunn, that’s fine, but, I’d like to see them go out and get Brett Myers from Houston. Let him start until Pettitte’s ready to go and then put him in the 8th inning spot until it’s time to move Hughes there in early September.
That choo guy is one hell of a player, last night the double he hit from cc was one great piece of hiting
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!
where are my posts?
Looks like GB is opening himself up to Laura’s wrath like I did by suggesting Myers a couple weeks ago.
hello
come on
Choo has to go back to Korea after this season, I believe. He’s not done his mandatory 2 year Military Service. There was talk about forgiving service for the whole team if Korea had won the WBC.
@mick, i don’t recall Jeter swung that many first offering last year or in the past . from an untrained eyes, it seem to be his lunging at pitches. Maybe he is a tad late on fastballs this year and worrying about getting beat. who knows, but yes, he has swung at first pitch more than I remembered in the past.
“If NYYs make a deal for Dunn, that’s fine, but, I’d like to see them go out and get Brett Myers from Houston. Let him start until Pettitte’s ready to go and then put him in the 8th inning spot until it’s time to move Hughes there in early September.”
Yea I don’t know what Houston is asking but I also think that would be a good pick up for the reasons you said…he has experience both starting and pitching the 8th. Makes sense if the price is reasonable.
Great trade for the Indians to get Choo from our friends the Mariners for Broussard.
Myers might be a great pick up only if the price is right, but i don’t think he would be a good set up man though
Grandy really seems to be coming around…if so, watch out.
GB;
the Astros labeled Myers as untouchable earlier today.
Why don’t my posts show up when I type on my computer?
Buster tweeted that the Philles are working on a 3 or 4 team deal for Oswalt.
Based on recent history, if the Yankees are regarded as the front runner for a player, they have no shot.
Flash is really excited. Wants to see Santana throw to 2B. BTW, the other Santana, the real one, got shelled today. Absolutely waxed.
When was the last time Cervelli got a hit?
igotid88 July 28th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Why don’t my posts show up when I type on my computer?
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Is this a trick question?
Ed July 28th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
GB;
the Astros labeled Myers as untouchable earlier today.
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really? what kinda of kool aid is Drayton ….. they must mean literally, like he doesn’t like to be touch.
Not sure what it would take, either, but, maybe a McAllister or Nova and Luis Nunez plus cash. That allows them to trade Keppinger like they want.
If it’s being reported that the Yankees are the front runners for Dunn, they have no shot, given that they were reported as front runners for Lee and Haren.
I saw Santana a week ago and the 60′s are over.
Myers is dominating this month. 1.67 ERA and 7.44 innings per start. Threw a 1 run CG last night with 12 Ks.
I agree with GB and still think he would be a better pick up than any reliever on the market including Downs, because of his versatility.
CountryClub— just heard the same rumor. My buddy is a Mets fan. . he’s flipping out .
Don’t understand why a team thats going nowhere would label a guy thats contract is up as “untouchable”.
Cashmoney;
good question. Myers could basically walk away after this season, since he only signed a 1 year deal with the ‘Stros.
Myers is untouchable?
Man, the Astros do the strangest things every year at the trade deadline. They seem to act like a contending team every year.
what a great slide by garandy
You just can’t teach speed.
damn, Choo is good!
Great job by Gardner, great thrown by Choo, great slide by Granderson. Good baseball play.
Hello Yankees Offense – welcome to the early innings of a game
choo has a gun…best rf arm in the bigs
Erica, no I’m doing this from my phone now
Gardner better be running .. Lets keep out of the DP
GGBG does it again!!…. Carl who??
LGY;
remember when the Astros proclaimed themselves as buyers 2 years ago when they were like 10 games out of 1st place. yeah that was funny.
Nice hit by Gardner. They got lucky running on Choo….
Close call correctly goes Yanks’ way???
What next, locusts?
mick July 28th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
When was the last time Cervelli got a hit?
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Last Wednesday when he got 2.
But in his defense he only played in less than half the games
Come on, Jeter.
Steal gardner
The Astros want to keep Myers and sign him to a deal, he is only 29.
igotid88 July 28th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Erica, no I’m doing this from my phone now
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I am on a lot of medicine. Its not nice to confuse me like that
Did you do something that would cause the Blogmasters to ban your IP? Try e-mailing Chad
trying again
I would root against Myers if he came to NY – no way I want that wife-beater on my team
Ed July 28th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Cashmoney;
good question. Myers could basically walk away after this season, since he only signed a 1 year deal with the ‘Stros.
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i am just gonna assume they are either bluffing or there is some kinda brain lock happening with Stro’s FO or Drayton .
Nice slide by Grandy. That guy knows something about playing baseball.
Houston is a strange team. A lot of that comes from McLane, I think.
Back to the myers thing…. please enlight me i like it as starter but don’t forget that he is pitching in arguably the weakest div in baseball< so you guys think that he maintain the level of succes in the al east??
@ erica
No. I haven’t done anything wrong. I got a few posts in yesterday. But it ate up most of my other one’s.
Betsy, I remember that incident. Not one of his better moments in life.
Seems to me that what goes on in a player’s personal life is between him and his wife. If she’s forgiven him and things are being worked out, it’s nobody elses business.
Granderson does the little things that help the Yankees win like that awesome slide…also hits big time HR’s…..I am coming around on him, still think we gave up too much with Kennedy and Coke as well as Jackson but I am glad we have Grandy as our CF instead of Melky or Jackson….I can see Grandy making some huge plays in the playoffs for us!!!
GB, you’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t share it and I sure as heck don’t have to root for him.
Joe, that’s being kind, lol.
Seems to me that what goes on in a player’s personal life is between him and his wife.
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His wife wishes there was something between him and her. Like a shield.
Nice slide by Granderson.
Watching the replay, my son asked, “Who’s that?”
I told him it was Gardner. I told him he’s my favorite Yankee.
He’s all, “Really?
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GB, Meyers over Lilly, when you consider all things ????
The only time this happened was when I tried to use my real name as my screenname. But I couldn’t because that was Pete’s last name. Which I don’t understand now. What if there’s a player with that name for the Yankees in the future?
“I haven’t done anything wrong.”
I’ll be the judge of that.
I believe Myers has an option for $8m for next year. If they trade Oswalt they are going to need someone to ptich for them. He has such good #’s this year they should keep him.
Teix is so locked in.
Tex Msged!
GB;
Kim Myers did forgave Brett 4 years ago, since she didn’t want him arrested. Since then, they went to a marriage counsel. so yes….NOBODY’s BUSINESS!!!!!
Joe from Long Island……I fully expect Curtis Granderson to keep elevating his game for the rest of the season…….Alex goes boom right about now
Nice going Tex!!!
Yanks have their hitting shoes on…time for a bomb from Arod…
Excuse me, but I’m not sticking my nose in their business. He’d be a member of the team and whether I want to root for him or not is MY business. I’m not judging Kim Myers for forgiving her husband – that’s up to her.
Just let us avoid rookie starters and we’re fine.
update
TB 5 DET 3
“His wife wishes there was something between him and her. Like a shield.”
Heh.
Should “Myers” be filtered here?
hmm yeah…A-Rod missed the pitch. he swung right under it.
mick July 28th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Why has Jeter become such a notorious 1st ball hitter?
I think it is why his BA is as low as it is.
His job as leadoff man should be to take some pitches, get into a hitters count, as he did last season, with Damon doing the same behind him.
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Jeter is a lifetime .380 batter on the 1st pitch, this year he’s only batting .304 on the first pitch. That probably accounts for 15 points in his BA just on that.
For his career, he’s put the ball in play on the first pitch 14.3% of the time. In 2010 is 16.6% of the time. I doubt that there is statistical significance between those two numbers.
I can’t explain the falloff in his batting average this year on the first pitch but would attribute it more to just random chance than anything else. He’s not striking out at a higher rate, hitting about the same number of HRs per plate appearance, etc.
I know many of you think he’s changed his approach at the plate but the reality is he’s the same type of batter this year as in the rest of his career, the stats are consistent.
I think A-rod’s gone past somebody for most at-bats between 599 & 600. I want to say Aaron? They were tied before the beginning of this game.
Maybe pitchers are wasting their 1st pitch to Jeter knowing he will be hacking.
I know many of you think he’s changed his approach at the plate but the reality is he’s the same type of batter this year as in the rest of his career, the stats are consistent.
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Diminished LD%, increased GB%, increased O-Swing%
He is swinging at more pitches out of the zone, and is likely swinging at more bad pitches given his increase in ground balls.
“I can’t explain the falloff in his batting average this year on the first pitch but would attribute it more to just random chance than anything else. He’s not striking out at a higher rate, hitting about the same number of HRs per plate appearance, etc. ”
I think the likely cause is that he is hitting about 10% more GBs than his career mark.
luis,
I don’t think he would pitch as well in the AL East, but I think he would pitch well. The point is that they wouldn’t need him to pitch to a 3.10 ERA though. He is definitely an upgrade over Serg/Moseley.
The main plus IMO of Myers is that he can shift to the bullpen and may be a better bullpen arm than any of the relievers actually available. So he could help the rotation in the short term and upgrade the bullpen in the long term.
Downs is the only reliever that would really have a case for being better than Myers in the bullpen IMO.
The Yanks need to pay Carmona some $$ to throw the next pitch to Arod right down the middle. They need to get this over with already. Actually the last pitch to Arod was right down the middle but he missed it.
To be more specific: Lowest LD% in his career, highest GB% in his career, lowest FB% in his career, one of his lowest BB%s, lowest P/PA in his career
His wife wishes there was something between him and her. Like a shield.
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I know many of you think he’s changed his approach at the plate but the reality is he’s the same type of batter this year as in the rest of his career, the stats are consistent.
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maybe father times has finally caught up with the Capt, it happens to the best of them.
I heard that the astros owner gets very close to his players,dinner,batting practice & never want’s to trade them because of it.
You don’t find too many leadoff men who are 1st ball hitters.
I saw a game recently where Gardner lead off and between him and Jeter about 20 pitches were thrown.
Needless to say that pitcher was gone by the 5th.
Isn’t that what Damon and Jeter used to do, no matter who batted 1st?
Pat M. July 28th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
GB, Meyers over Lilly, when you consider all things ????
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Yeah, even with the issues from 4 years ago, I’d take Myers because of his ability to start, be the EIG or close. He’s always had a special arm. If people hold that against him now, how would they feel about Mantle, Martin or Pepitone?
also , earlier this year, Nick Johnson might not have hit, but he did see tons of pitches P/AB.
Jeter is swinging at the first pitch at one of the lowest rates in his career, but is putting it into play at one of the highest rates in his career.
He is choosing poor pitches to attack, or not putting good swings on them. A likely reason is change in approach.
It doesn’t seem like AJ has good command of his fastball. The walks are going to come back to bite him. I hate watching him pitch when he isn’t lighting out.
Come on AJ just throw STRIKES!!!!
Jeter has always tended to put the ball in play early in the count and has always hit for high averages with that approach, if you look at his career splits it jumps right out at you.
He’s not having a good year, that could be random chance, could be age, or could be an injury that he refuses to acknowledge. All I know is that I’d rather have him in the lineup performing at this level than almost anyone else-call me loyal to a fault, call me whatever you want, but I’m fine with him at shortstop and batting leadoff until a full season plus next year shows this as a definitive trend.
“All I know is that I’d rather have him in the lineup performing at this level than almost anyone else-”
Me too, but not batting leadoff.
The Astros say that Myers is untouchable so it wouldn’t be worth gving up what it would take to get him. The Astros owner is hard to deal with and who knows if they know how to make a trade.
Good job by AJ. Lots of baserunners, but getting out of it. It’s only the top of the 3rd. Going to be a looong game.
Jeter (who I love as much as anyone else) shouldn’t be batting in the 1 or 2 slot in the order right now.. His stats don’t relate to him being in the spot in the order.. Should be Gardner and Swisher the top 2..
I still love this Avis commerical.
I wish they would do a roll call for me at work.
It would be so much better than the growl I get when I walk in very promptly at 9:02
Not a good night for David Phelps and Scranton so far. Phelps is out after 7 hits and 5 runs in 3 innings. scranton losing 7-2.
Jeter would be a better hitter if he took more pitches.
He seems to be more focused deeper in the count and usually goes deeper with men on, waiting for his pitch.
His swinging at the 1st pitch seems to decrease as the game goes on esp with men on base.
LGY,
Thank you, very well explained… but if you shift him to the bull-pen don’t you run the risk of having a similar bust as Park and since you are paying him considerable more money than the league minimun, management would keep him like they are keeping Park, instead of trying someone else??. I’m not a big fan of outside solutions when it comes to the BP we’ve got burned so many times that maybe i am little biased
AJ’s thrown 11 balls. So, outside of the 2 walks this past inning, he’s thrown 3 balls.
@MG, how many productive years do you think the Capt has left in the tank?
mick July 28th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Jeter would be a better hitter if he took more pitches.
He seems to be more focused deeper in the count and usually goes deeper with men on, waiting for his pitch.
His swinging at the 1st pitch seems to decrease as the game goes on esp with men on base.
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that’s not correct either, his lifetime BA in counts with 2 strikes is in the mid to low .200s, he is much, much better earlier in the count.
Stats don’t lie, particularly ones for a long career.
Sux swept LAA in Anaheim? LOL ,shocker.
mick July 28th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Jeter would be a better hitter if he took more pitches.
He seems to be more focused deeper in the count and usually goes deeper with men on, waiting for his pitch.
His swinging at the 1st pitch seems to decrease as the game goes on esp with men on base.
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I think Jeter still does that when the game is on the line. I noticed Jeter actually bears down and work the pitcher for a walk.
I can think of AZ game when they came back from 1 run down in the ninth where Jeter’s AB was far different than his earlier approach in the game..
Keep shutting me up, Granderson.
great job curtis!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job there by Grandy legging it out for a triple, he is really starting to show why he was an All Star last year.
grandy is starting to open some eyes…the extra base hits are coming hard and fast!
Pat M – I think we’re on to something here with Curtis G….
The Grandy man can !
Nice going Granderson!!! He obviously sees the ball really well out of Carmona’s hand.
CURTIS !!!!
His walks are down and his K’s are up
PFOFs
awesome grandy! like pat m keeps saying, grandy gonna come around!! whew, that’s gotta hurt, hope cervelli is ok, he looks hurt, nice job of turning that into a triple, guess fausto should have walked him!
Grandy’s bat is much quicker than it was a few weeks ago, you could see it over the weekend and in the 2 HR game on Monday.
Hopefully Cervelli is ok. I hate when wild pitchers pitch inside.
Granderson is starting to heat up.
Great time to start doing it.
He can save his year bigtime with a hot two months.
that’s not correct either, his lifetime BA in counts with 2 strikes is in the mid to low .200s, he is much, much better earlier in the count.
Stats don’t lie, particularly ones for a long career.
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His life time averages are all insane ahead in the count, and then 0-1, and 1-1.
1-2, 2-2, 0-2, and 3-2 he is bad.
Your interpretation also doesn’t seem correct.
As much as our catchers are getting beaten up, it might not be a bad idea to pick up another catcher!
Gritner!
Cisco is one tough dude. Speaking of catchers, where’s Randy?
grandy and gardy with the big sticks out tonight!
Nice to see Gardner hitting again. Good thing another rookie wasn’t on the mound today.
What power from Gardner! He really drove that ball!
Beautiful swings by Granderson and Gardner there.
Beautiful couple of innings here. Much funner than the garbage on display the previous two games.
come on Jeter, get that runner in , fundamental baseball….
We are missing a certain poster who whines about the offense most nights.
It can’t be because they are winning 6-0 is it?
Yet another groundout.
wow!! GGBG
Jeter the rally killer. He is a dreadful leadoff hitter at this point. The real lineup starts with Swisher.
I really cant stand the infield in. We must have the worst luck with the infield in. Jeter absolutely scorched that ball, but as usual, it was right at him.
luis,
There is always chance of a bust, but I wouldn’t really equate Park with Myers. Park’s stuff looks a lot worse than last year and that is probably why he is pitching so much worse. Myers stuff has looked good this year and if anything shifting to the bullpen might give him a tick or two more velocity.
He is also only owed about a million, maybe a little more, the rest of the way so while more than minimum not very expensive. I guess at worst, he would upgrade the long relief spot, if he didn’t pitch well in the BP.
I do agree though, I am wary of outside solutions when it comes to the BP especially since you probably have to overpay since so many teams want BP help. I hope Dejo is back up soon.
It appears it is not worth thinking about the possibility though, because apparently he is untouchable.
“Beautiful couple of innings here. Much funner than the garbage on display the previous two games.”
they did win two days ago…
Love this production; hope AJ stays sharp.
Where are all of those people who whined last night that the Yankees never score early?!?
7-0
When Swish does that, he’s one of the best outfielders in baseball.
Nice job Swishy pickin Jeetie up!
Carmona looks like crap tonight. Time to get him out of there. Though I want him to stay.
Where are all of those people who whined last night that the Yankees never score early?!?
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They obviously didn’t see this game…
I love Swish batting 2nd. A lineup of Damon 1st and Swish 2nd would be fun to watch.
SJ44 July 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
You bet
Jerkface July 28th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
that’s not correct either, his lifetime BA in counts with 2 strikes is in the mid to low .200s, he is much, much better earlier in the count.
Stats don’t lie, particularly ones for a long career.
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His life time averages are all insane ahead in the count, and then 0-1, and 1-1.
1-2, 2-2, 0-2, and 3-2 he is bad.
Your interpretation also doesn’t seem correct.
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HUH? That’s exactly what I said, great stats early in the count, not good with 2 strikes. What is so difficult to interpret?
# RalphieD July 28th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
“Beautiful couple of innings here. Much funner than the garbage on display the previous two games.”
they did win two days ago…
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I know, but they didn’t really do anything the whole game other than two bad pitches by Westbrook.
Baseball is a funny game.
They get dominated by a kid making his ML debut and pound an all star pitcher in Carmona.
I don’t know how you can bet on baseball.
It’s so unpredictable no matter how many folks try to predict it by reading stat sheets.
I would leadoff with Gardner.
Hit Jeter 2nd.
apb out on matt.
If you bet on 1st time pitchers against the Yanks this year you’d be 7-0.
SJ
Yeah you mean Matt. LOL ! He only comes around when the Yankees lose, make a mistake, or the offense just stinks.
“It’s so unpredictable no matter how many folks try to predict it by reading stat sheets.”
John Sterling in the house!
Captain Clutch July 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
I love Swish batting 2nd. A lineup of Damon 1st and Swish 2nd would be fun to watch
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Correction:
Any Yankee line up with Johnny Damon in it would be fun to watch
“He can save his year bigtime with a hot two months.”
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The best part about being in first despite some players struggling is that there really is much of a point to fret over what their struggles. As long as they stay in 1st, all that matters is how they play going forward.
And of course there is always the postseason, which is always the ultimate redeemer.
# SJ44 July 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
We are missing a certain poster who whines about the offense most nights.
It can’t be because they are winning 6-0 is it?
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Nah. Couldn’t be. Because, he always shows up when the Yankees are winning, right? /sarcasm
I hope the kid pitching now isn’t a rookie….lol
Carmona got 8 outs.
Jeter was 3 of them.
He’s batting .375 for Carmona.
“Any Yankee line up with Johnny Damon in it would be fun to watch”
LOL
I’ll tell you what. If Gardner’s BA is higher than Jeter’s at the end of the season, I’ll never read or post on this blog again.
Erica – Note the slugfest right now. :sigh: lol
Time for the A BOMB!
Time for a Grand Salami #600?
A-Rod?
Gran salami??
Come on Arod!!! Let’s go!!!
ARRGH – not again. Fingers crossed.
All right, A-Rod is tailor-made for this…
“I’ll tell you what. If Gardner’s BA is higher than Jeter’s at the end of the season, I’ll never read or post on this blog again.”
By all means, post, but use OBP.
SJ44 July 28th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Granderson is starting to heat up.
Great time to start doing it.
He can save his year bigtime with a hot two months.
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I want a hot three months.
A-Rod will be walked
“Correction:
Any Yankee line up with Johnny Damon in it would be fun to watch”
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I agree. Stupid Boras.
MG
You don’t think Gardner can keep this up? Or is it a belief in Jeter getting right again?
Because I too believe Jeter will get it right. But I also believe that Gardner will keep performing, as he repeatedly puts together professional at-bats – regardless of getting out or not.
2-2 was Arod’s pitch.
“I agree. Stupid Boras.”
Damon made the final decision.
A 3-2 count is a great time as any…
No offense to A-Rod, but I hope he never breaks Gehrig’s grand slam record.
Do the R*d S*x still lead the leagues in runs scored ?
NYY626 – Andy in 2011 July 28th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Erica – Note the slugfest right now. :sigh: lol
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I really hope he does it here so I can go to sleep. LOL
D’oh.
MaineYankee July 28th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
SJ44 July 28th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Granderson is starting to heat up.
Great time to start doing it.
He can save his year bigtime with a hot two months.
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I want a hot three months.
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I like the way you think Maine
I have to say A-Rod’s this AB is very poor.
Damn. He missed his pitch again..
A-Rod strikes out swinging. What a surprise.
# California July 28th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Do the R*d S*x still lead the leagues in runs scored ?
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Hell no. ANd they haven’t for a couple of weeks now.
The Phillies have quietly gotten hot….Winning again tonight. Hope Phitins doesn’t return. Or was he/she the same poster as First Place Red Sox?
Milestones are not a good thing for Arod
And the Red Sox have played more 2 more games than the Yankees.
Do the R*d S*x still lead the leagues in runs scored ?
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They lead the League of 3rd-Place Teams in runs scored, it’s true.
Astrudel Cabrera
Erica
Except when it comes to JD.
Rob B July 28th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
# California July 28th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Do the R*d S*x still lead the leagues in runs scored ?
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Hell no. ANd they haven’t for a couple of weeks now.
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Good.
Choo Choo Coleman
LGY July 28th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
And the Red Sox have played more 2 more games than the Yankees.
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to be fair , the Sox was leading by a healthy margin before all the injuries hit. when healthy, Sox’s lineup prolly has a small edge over the yanks.
LGY,
point taken. i too want dejo back i never understood the move they for mitre instead of dfa either park, gaudin or moseley
Great play!!! Gold Glovin’ Sweet Lovin’ Robi Cano!
Hi I’m Ronnie DOITCH!!!!
Gotta love Robbie!
“The Dodgers will acquire Scott Podsednik from the Royals for two minor leaguers, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.”
BUHBYE!
MaineYankee July 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Erica
Except when it comes to JD.
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Everyman has his faults!
# blake July 28th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
“The Dodgers will acquire Scott Podsednik from the Royals for two minor leaguers, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.”
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They couldn’t have done that before the last series?
@Luis, I think Ninja Cash is prolly pitching Chop to other teams feverishly right now. No one would be surprise if Chop gets DFA after the Trade Deadline if he doesn’t get traded.
Still, that choo guy even when he makes an out it’s a loud one whew!!
Anybody else cheering for the Yankees to keep up the onslaught and maybe, I don’t know, score about 22 runs?
I have a problem with the offense.
They are just scoring meaningless runs now.
No wonder why Matt gets upset.
This is unacceptable.
man that grandy stinks…
Two extremely impressive at bats from Granderson and Swisher that last inning. Carmona can be difficult on LH hitters because his ball can have a great deal of tailing action away from LH hitters.
On the pitch Granderson hit – it was a mistake as it was up in the zone. That said, that fastball had a ton of arm side run on it and was moving away from Curtis. If he tries to pull that pitch he’s most likely grounds out to 2b. Instead, Curtis stayed back very nicely on the pitch and used his extremely quick wrists to power the ball the other way. You watch Curtis do things like that – there are simply very few CF in the game who can do the things he is capable of. Really remarkable for a CF produce that result.
Swisher – what can you say. Last year there’s no way he drives in that run. Carmona threw him a two seamer moving away and Nick stayed back and on the ball for a long time and lined the pitch the other way. Really didn’t try to do to much – kept his swing short and prioritized getting the run home.
Very nice rally in the 3rd.
A-Rod got 7 pitches. 5 were balls and 2 were strikes. What is he supposed to do with those kind of pitches. Nothing over the plate at all.
Cash will trade park for a prospect,he is good at that.
Cashmoney,
Possibly, but I disagree. The Yankees are typically a 2nd half team and they had a terrible month offensively in June, so that really affected the numbers.
I think over the course of the season even if Boston stayed healthy, the Yankees would have finished ahead in RS.
I think the Yankee offense will really get rolling over the next couple months.
Swisher hit did the same thing late in the game last night and nearly drove it out of the park the other way…his swing and approach are night and day from last season.
Cash,
I really hope you are right because he is a dead weight right now on the roster
I mean only two guys batting over .300
There are four more guys who could get over .300 before October
ahed of the RS in *runs scored*
Gardner makes those pitchers work for the out. He usually gets the pitch count up.
How does 64-36 sound?
The Yanks will break a 100 wins again, no prob.
Joba will pitch the 8th
HUH? That’s exactly what I said, great stats early in the count, not good with 2 strikes. What is so difficult to interpret?
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He is better 2-0, 3-0, 3-1 , which isn’t ‘early in the count’. He just happens to be bad with 2 strikes. But its not enough to say he is also bad ‘late in the count’, because he isn’t. It depends on the count!
Burnett will pitch a complete game, lol
Does anyone know why the Phillies-DBacks game highlighted in blue on ESPN?
LGY, I am more concern about Yanks potential vulnerability against lefty this year than anything else. I am fairly sure they murdered lefties last year while are about 500 record against them this year. To that note, i could use a bat that murders the lefties on the bench or in the lineup. I just not quite sure if such bat is out there.
Nice heads up play by Cano.
In addition to having great skills, Cano has become a very heady player.
Ohlendorf just took a liner off his face during the Pirates game… Seems okay, but left the game obviously.
LGY
They highlight multiple games a night on espn.com now. So a person really can’t tell if something special is going on in one of the blue highlighted games, unless they check.
Cano makes me forget about the Yanks getting rid of Soriano
LGY, I am more concern about Yanks potential vulnerability against lefty this year than anything else. I am fairly sure they murdered lefties last year while are about 500 record against them this year. To that note, i could use a bat that murders the lefties on the bench or in the lineup. I just not quite sure if such bat is out there.
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The yankees hit better vs lefties. But more vs left handed relievers than starters.
Any day the R*d S*x won a game is a bad day.
At least Mariano will get a rest tonight.
It feels like this game is flying by. Is that already four innings in the books???
Arod lets do it this inning get this 600 thing over with
Yea it is flying. Burnett is helping his era tonight.
“It feels like this game is flying by. Is that already four innings in the books???”
Yeah, apart from the score, it’s a yawner.
Looking at the bright side, at least Kay isn’t on.
Only for those who needlessly obsess over a third place team.
Jerkface,
I think their numbers vs LH starters are what is important. Most LH relievers suck, so that is probably why they hit them so well.
Choo is good.
Choo is annoying
The yankees hit better vs lefties. But more vs left handed relievers than starters
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jerkface, do you mean AVG wise or other peripheral stats as well ( slug , OPS )
Derek is not having good at bats.
It’s been a really great last few weeks, just prior to the ASB. Very little of Kay. Addition by subtraction.
Could be no runs for the Yanks in the 5th.
Austin Kearn could be a nice addition, haven’t checked his split. Maybe Xmen in chitown? i know he is having a bad year. the options simply are great out there. I actually like Johnny Gomes before Cash signed Wynn but that’s also moot point .
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....-plan.html
Thanks for that link, Rich.
I hope Alex doesn’t get screwed out of his $25 million.
Choo is one of the most under rated players in the game. He’s probably one of the 5 best RF in the game.
Wave was always very high on Choo.
The only negatives on him is that he’s not as good against LH pitching and the hang up with his military service.
When he hits the market the Yankees may make a very hard run at him.
what? they didn’t score in the inning?
cue the trolls
jerkface, do you mean AVG wise or other peripheral stats as well ( slug , OPS )
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Everything. Their OPS is over .800 vs LHP but under .800 vs LHS
Choo is playing for only $461,000 this year. Yankees would like to get him down the road in their outfield.
very rare that AJ has a 1-2-3 inning… Would be nice to keep his pitch count down.
2 more outs to make this official. More rain coming.
Choo looks good. But so does Swisher.
just noticed that everyone in the lineup has a hit, but Jeter… Go figure!
UPDATE, 7:55 p.m.: It’s not a home run, but a two-out single by Rodriguez has given the Yankees a 1-0 lead in the first inning. Personally, I think he’ll hit it today. I’m going to guess sixth inning
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Chad’s prediction from earlier.
If he gets it, I am going to e-mail him for lottery numbers
“Wave was always very high on Choo. ”
LGY too.
Just get these final 2 outs please.
YES! HUGE CATCH!
Nice catch by Swish!! Come on AJ the rain is coming…
Swisher looks really good.
burnett needs to get this third out ASAP. getting windy and probably about to start pouring again. ask cc about 5th inning urgency.
one more out
I was also high on Choo. I wanted to trade Joba for him even after 08
WOohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Choo-Choo!
YES! Great job AJ!
attaboy, official game!
The bottom dropped out.
Choo is K-ed, good
legal game guys
Nice pitch to get Choo out. Let’s go Arod!!!
Arod will hit the dinger and then the rain will come and they won’t finish the inning…meaning the hr won’t count. Would anyone be surpsised?
I was high on Choo
Just for medicinal use
Kids, say no to Choo
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A-Rod picked up the bag!
Like Rickey Henderson?
XD
Damn, only a double. Good thing he didn’t get hurt sliding into 2nd base.
“Lost” is conspicuously absent from Twitter and LOHUD.
Where is that dude?
arod check swings and hits a rocket. wow.
That could only happen to ARod.
I love Kenny Singleton: “That’s another way to steal a base” LOL! Only Alex!
haha the losers in Cleveland with the A-Rod chants. how about some Lebron chants?
Cano 2 run bomb
Captain Clutch July 28th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Damn, only a double. Good thing he didn’t get hurt sliding into 2nd base.
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Sliding into 2nd?
He practically tried to take it home as a souvineer. LOL
The look on Alex’s face is priceless. That’ll show up on espn somehow.
for he is alexander the great!
looking ahead, I will be very curious to see how Javy do against the Rays. I am still scarred
from 2004 playoff and have little and no confidence in Javy in a big game.
Sorry Chad-
You do not get to pick my lotto numbers
Alex has so many awkward moments, its hilarious. That stolen base is right up there w/the time he groped the cop.
nearly took aceves further out.
NYY626 – Andy in 2011 July 28th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Alex has so many awkward moments, its hilarious. That stolen base is right up there w/the time he groped the cop.
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LOL… I forgot about that. That lady cop didn’t know how to react
“Lost” is doing is due diligence trying to find the sources behind NYYrumors.
LOL! He groped the cop! That was highlarious! The guy is special, that’s why he has so many great spontaneous moments.
Has Lost gotten lost?
Twitter tumbleweeds roll by
Which Royal moves next?
the Indians broadcast had a trivia question asking What 4 former MLB catchers have managed the Yankees?
the given answers were Girardi, Yogi, Bill Dickey, and Ralph Houk.
I can’t be alone in seeing they completely missed Joe Torre in that trivia.
Indians Broadcasters?
Another example of the 3rd Reich in MLB. Alert Nazi hunter McCarver!
Frozen Rope July 28th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
the Indians broadcast had a trivia question asking What 4 former MLB catchers have managed the Yankees?
the given answers were Girardi, Yogi, Bill Dickey, and Ralph Houk.
I can’t be alone in seeing they completely missed Joe Torre in that trivia
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I am sure that is somehow the Yankees fault for “airbrushing Joe Torre out of their history” LOL
MLB.com says that the Angels tried to trade for Derrek Lee but he blocked the trade. Poor Angels…
found on twitter:
http://i31.tinypic.com/rawz6o.jpg
“MLB.com says that the Angels tried to trade for Derrek Lee but he blocked the trade. Poor Angels…”
What I found odd about it is that he’s currently building a home in California yet he still turned down the trade. Weird.
good. angels – notably scioscia – deserve every bit of negative that happens to them. see ya piniero!
Is it possible the question was actually which four Yankee catchers have managed the Yankees?
Since all four in the given answer fit?
NYY626 – Andy in 2011 July 28th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
found on twitter:
http://i31.tinypic.com/rawz6o.jpg
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Well- that didn’t take long.
What time does your Andy-radar think I should set my DVR for Centerstage? I am not long for this game
MLB.com says that the Angels tried to trade for Derrek Lee but he blocked the trade. Poor Angels…
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Angels has been snake bitten this year with some of their injuries. with Pineiro out for 6-8 weeks. I doubt even the most optimistic Angel fans still believe they have a chance in the west.
The Yanks can get a 5-6 run inning every now and then, but after that inning, the offense goes flat and they don’t do the fundamentals. Killer mentality at first, but more passive as the game goes deeper. I compare it to when they face a pitcher for the first time and they don’t fair do well. Very predictable IMO!
Just amazing. Look at how devastating that two seam fastball AJ just threw Kearns for strike 1 was. Unbelievable. What a pitch. Just bore into Kearns and ate him up.
AJ is a mystery. He has so many tools but either decides not to use them and/or can’t harness them with any consistency.
Nice turn by Big Sexy Alexander the great!
CC-
Lee wanted to keep his family in Chicago, but is building a house in Southern California. Maybe next year.
If Lee has kids and I am assuming he does it makes sense to stay in Chicago. They are settled in and the Angels will most likely not make the play offs so it doesn’t make much sense to go there.
They aren’t going to score in every inning.
If you are unhappy with their offensive approach after scoring 8 runs in six innings, following baseball may not be for you.
Even Matt isn’t coming on here complaining about the offense tonight.
That should tell you something.
Erica – hopefully 12ish? See i dont have a DVR so I have to stay up and watch ( i know it will replay but i’m not missing this!). Im tempted to go chug a whole bottle of diet coke to keep me up lol
what a play by asdrubal. wow.
“The Yanks can get a 5-6 run inning every now and then, but after that inning, the offense goes flat and they don’t do the fundamentals. Killer mentality at first, but more passive as the game goes deeper. I compare it to when they face a pitcher for the first time and they don’t fair do well. Very predictable IMO!”
yawn…always something to complain about…in a 8-0 no less
NYY626 – Andy in 2011 July 28th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Erica – hopefully 12ish? See i dont have a DVR so I have to stay up and watch ( i know it will replay but i’m not missing this!). Im tempted to go chug a whole bottle of diet coke to keep me up lol
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I am going optimistic with 11;30. But I will keep it recording until 1:45 just to be sure
it’s almost , CHOP Audition time again.
The Mets tied it up after Santana got bombed
Crisp defense there by AJ.
The Mets tied it up after Santana got bombed
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good for the Mets, they had a tough go on the West coast. no love for the red birds, would be nice to see Reds overtake Larussa & co.
Cashmoney July 28th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
The Mets tied it up after Santana got bombed
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good for the Mets, they had a tough go on the West coast. no love for the red birds, would be nice to see Reds overtake Larussa & co.
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I just don’t understand why Manual seems to get all of the blame for their problems and Minaya just coasts by scot-free
Joba warming up…Hopefully 8 runs is enough for him….
“yawn…always something to complain about…in a 8-0 no less”
Hey Ralphie boy- Just stating the facts and patterns of this team.. Not complaining, but they put up big innings and then 6-7 scoreless after.
… How quickly you forget about last nights dreadful showing. Team rebounded tonight and AJ held it together so far.
114 hard fought pitches is enough for AJ here. He labored with a high pitch count the first couple innings. That’s what did him in. Good time for Joba with 8 runs to work with… lol
The Yankees are interested in Dunn, but the Yanks and Nationals haven’t had serious talks yet, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter).
- MLB TR
Joba please keep the ball in the ballpark
They scored in the first 4 innings and two of those innings were 3 run innings. What more do you need through 7 innings?
8-0 lead and Joba balks knowing Tex is playing behind the runner.
Why is he worried about the baserunner, a la Farnsworth? No idea.
His low pitching IQ hurts him as much as anything else this year.
He’s a real enigma.
The Yankees are interested in Dunn, but the Yanks and Nationals haven’t had serious talks yet, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter).
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This blog had some serious discussion on the topic of Dunn as a 2+ month rental earlier this afternoon.
I just don’t understand why Manual seems to get all of the blame for their problems and Minaya just coasts by scot-free
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i have heard quite a few complaints Omar, he made some astute moves this off reason in Dickey, Hisanori and a few other bargain price players. I think there is an impression that the Wilpons has limited Omar’s ability as a GM by tightening their purse string.
Manual, on the other hand , is not great in game mgr. i suppose fans think Omar is being hamstrung by the Wilpons hence blameless ( or less blamed) thus directing more Venom toward Manual.
For Those watching on TV – Joba’s “dunlop” body is quite evident tonight.
Maybe a tighter uniform, but he looks like he has put on even more weight.
SJ44 July 28th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
8-0 lead and Joba balks knowing Tex is playing behind the runner.
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I agree 100 percent about his pitching IQ.
“The Yankees are interested in Dunn, but the Yanks and Nationals haven’t had serious talks yet, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter).
- MLB TR”
…a guy who hits 40 HR’s every year and gets on base at .380-.400 clip would be great hitting behind Cano. This would never happen cause the asking price is probably ridiculous, but if it did….
They are playing nearly .650 baseball, have the best record in the majors, and have an 8 run lead.
Only people completely clueless about baseball would complain about the Yankees tonight.
Sigh of relief from Burnett and the rest of the Yankees.
Dunn doesn’t make sense, especially since Posada needs 2-3 starts at DH per week.
SJ44 July 28th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
8-0 lead and Joba balks knowing Tex is playing behind the runner.
Why is he worried about the baserunner, a la Farnsworth? No idea.
His low pitching IQ hurts him as much as anything else this year.
He’s a real enigma.
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He does not have great baseball instincts
Erica in Ny
Because the Wilpons like Minaya and many Met fans think the manager is always the root of the problem. Instead the issue is that the Mets organization has a losers mentality and their players have a loser’s mentality with an idiotic GM.
It sounded like he said “ass dribble cabrera”.
He does not have great baseball instincts
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The posada of relievers
Cashmoney July 28th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
i have heard quite a few complaints Omar, he made some astute moves this off reason in Dickey, Hisanori and a few other bargain price players. I think there is an impression that the Wilpons has limited Omar’s ability as a GM by tightening their purse string.
Manual, on the other hand , is not great in game mgr. i suppose fans think Omar is being hamstrung by the Wilpons hence blameless ( or less blamed) thus directing more Venom toward Manual.
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In particular, I think Jason Bay was a really bad fit for them.
And they had way too many question marks in their rotation
Mets problem is that they can’t hit on the road… which is odd considering they play in a cavernous ballpark, so it’s not like they have a homefield advantage that inflates their offensive stats a la Fenway.
At Posada’s rapidly increasing injury rate, he may not be even catching 3-4 games a week soon.. He has so many nagging injuries. Catching has paid it’s toll on him.. Not his fault. Just the position he’s played.
Go for #600 Alex
As if I hadn’t made this opinion clear enough, Nick swisher is awesome. sorry if this comment on his.awesome catch is late but I just got home.
Jeremy July 28th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Erica in Ny
Because the Wilpons like Minaya and many Met fans think the manager is always the root of the problem. Instead the issue is that the Mets organization has a losers mentality and their players have a loser’s mentality with an idiotic GM.
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I found it funny when I was reading the Maddon Steinbrenner book, to learn that Steinbrenner had a bad complex about losing to the Mets in the 80s. (Obviously, he hated losing to anyone but the Mets would really outrage him). It just seems like its been a really long time since the Mets were a viablility
Cashmoney
How was getting Dickey really astute ? It was pure luck. Dickey has been garbage his entire career. Minaya is the same guy that signed Luis Castillo to a big contract, Oliver PErez to a big contract. Moises Alou, Orlando Hernandez. He traded talented players and got garbage and he got lucky in the Santana trade because the Yankees and Red Sox pulled out.
In other words Minaya is a moron.
wow, just foul.
Good rips here for Arod!
Nick-
Is the filter not working.
Minaya is a great GM. While in Montral he trade minor leaguers Brandon Phillips, Sizemore and Cliff Lee for Bartolo Colon!! lol
Adam Dunn would be more of a move for the postseason.
Posada is going to be catching every game in the playoffs and the Yankees do not have a DH.
Dunn would be more of a move for the playoffs, because Posada will be catching every game.
joba in for the 9th?
Remember when Tony Bernezard ripped his shirt off in front of the minor leaguers and yelled at them for losing so much?
And shortly after, Omar accused Adam Rubin writing that story so that he could get a job in the Mets organization lol
what a train wreck that team is
Erica in NY
yeah Steinbrenner hated losing to the Mets. And Yeah they really haven’t been viable in a while. The Mets and Cubs have become the laughingstocks of baseball.
One thing they both know how to do well is choke. The Cubs do it more than the Mets but the Mets are right behind them.
Erica in NY
yeah Steinbrenner hated losing to the Mets. And Yeah they really haven’t been viable in a while. The Mets and Cubs have become the laughingstocks of baseball.
One thing they both know how to do well is choke. The Cubs do it more than the Mets but the Mets are right behind them.
In particular, I think Jason Bay was a really bad fit for them.
And they had way too many question marks in their rotation
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agree, while i did not think Bay is a great fit , i did not think he would be under performing to the level he has been so far. Apparently Mets thought his power would not have been hampered by Citi field since he is pull hitter. well, he hasn’t done much of pulling lately.
as far as rotation goes , agree, after Johan, it’s pretty much a crap shoot. now emergence of Niese and Dickey has stablized somewhat, they are IMO still an arm short.
# Jerkface July 28th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
He does not have great baseball instincts
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The posada of relievers
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And you “stink” in here worse than a skunk ! Really, asinine posts for days !!!
Took a look at the TV when Joba was up to pitch (just listening while I’m getting some work done). He looks particularly big tonight. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s doing some emotional eating. Understandable. But it looks like he just doesn’t have any flexibility with his body at all. Hard to even lean over.
I know CC is very large, but I’ve watched him and he’s very flexible for such a large guy.
Sounds like a deal with the Phillies for Oswalt has settled on JA Happ and prospects for Oswalt. Still haggling over the $$$ the Phillies want in return.
Since Shane Victorino is on the DL, don’t expect them to trade Werth.
And you “stink” in here worse than a skunk ! Really, asinine posts for days !!!
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Are you suggesting that Posada has good baseball instincts? He is by far one of the worst base runners in baseball, not just from a speed point a view but in all aspects.
Doesn’t make him a bad player, he is a great hitter.
repost from earlier today. Find this amusing when talking about Joba’s dedication to conditioning!
Article 5/27/08
By Mel Antonen, USA TODAY
Roger Clemens is out of baseball and involved in a steroids controversy, but he still has influence with the New York Yankees, the team he pitched for last season.
Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain, who is making the transition from eighth-inning reliever to the rotation, says he is in touch with Clemens regularly.
“We text back and forth and I ask him a lot of questions, because that’s how you get better,” Chamberlain said before the Yankees’ game in Baltimore Tuesday night. “You can’t be afraid to ask questions. I ask him everything from workout questions to how to pitch to certain batters. I never thought I’d be texting Roger Clemens.”
Chamberlain and Clemens had adjacent lockers last season when Chamberlain was called up in August and went 2-0 with a save and a 0.38 ERA in 19 appearances. This season Chamberlain has continued to pitch in relief, going 1-2 with a 2.42 ERA, but is preparing to move into the rotation and is scheduled to pitch in relief tonight.
Chamberlain says he’s taking pieces of Clemens’ workout routine and incorporating them. One piece of advice Clemens gave him: “The easiest day should be the day you pitch,” Chamberlain says. “Then, I beat myself up in between starts. I run, lift, eat right and take care of myself between starts.”
LOL
Who pitches the 9th?
I think I’ve deduced that “Matt” is Chad or Sam. They use that name when the team is losing to drive up blog hits and spur conversation.
It’s just unbelievable that he doesn’t post in threads when the team is winning like this.
He has to be made up. Someone can’t be that nuts.
Probably Park to showcase him.
@Erica
the Mets really can’t afford to blow this one, they need to win.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweaty on the mound is because Clemens told him to rub icy hot on his balls.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweaty on the mound is because Clemens told him to rub icy hot on his nads.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweaty on the mound is because Clemens told him to put icy hot on his nads.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweat on the mound is because Clemens told him to put icy hot on his nads.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweat on the mound is because Clemens told him to put icy hot on hi nads.
Yankee Trader,
Wouldn’t surprise me if the Yankee org encouraged that particular story to counter reality. We watch the team day in, day out, and it’s obvious Joba’s put on the pounds. He looked like anything but an elite athlete on the mound.
Not taking care of yourself physically often shows up in your mental well-being, too. I’m definitely more “on my game” when I’m eating right and exercising. He seemed flummoxed (sp?) throwing to first. Just embarrassing. And Tex sure didn’t try to cover for him there — letting the dugout know that he’d told Joba where he was playing. I thought that was telling.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweat on the mound is because Clemens told him to put icy hot on his man parts
test…
Chamberlain does look bigger especially in the face. He looks like he is going to have a heart attack after an inning. Looks like each pitch he throws is taking it’s toll.
Maybe the reason Joba looks so uncomfortable and sweat on the mound is because Clemens told him to put icy-hot on his man parts
Maybe the Mets and Cards can play for 20 innings again.
Ah — the article was dated 2008. No wonder. Too bad the supposed good habits didn’t stick. But Pettite has a good workout modeled after Clemen’s. Why not follow that?
Cashmoney July 28th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
@Erica
the Mets really can’t afford to blow this one, they need to win.
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Realistically, I don’t think anyone believes the Mets are going anywhere anymore. But this would be a nice come-back win for them
Instead of making fun of Joba’s weight game, why not recognize that he will have to spend more on larger clothing sizes in the future, even further diminishing his after-shopping income?
That article was written in May 2008.
Wang- Are you going to pitch this year for the Nationals?
Joba’s FB velo:
Avg: 95.86
Max: 97.3
Cashmoney
I hope the Mets lose. Two teams I love to see fail are the Red Sox first and then the Mets.
I didn’t like all the trash talk coming from Met fans in 2006 talking about the Yankees being a joke and the Mets being New Yorks new team. Especially after how they fired Willie they deserve everything that has happened to them over the past couple of years.
jaysonst
Despite Oswalt talks, #Phillies pursue other starters (Lilly, Westbrook, Carmona, etc.). Clearly not confident on Oswalt http://es.pn/9F6U0j
38 minutes ago via web
This is not what you want to see in the 9th inning of a 8-0 Game.
Hey Sergio, not the way you really wanted to start this inning….
Confirming @SI_JonHeyman re #Yanks’ interest in Dunn. They’re still waiting to hear what #Nats want in return.
29 minutes ago via TweetDeck
BobKlap
Bob Klapisch
Testing to see if my posts show up again.
Wow… apparently it just doesn’t seem to like Google Chrome?
Jeremy July 28th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Cashmoney
I hope the Mets lose. Two teams I love to see fail are the Red Sox first and then the Mets.
I didn’t like all the trash talk coming from Met fans in 2006 talking about the Yankees being a joke and the Mets being New Yorks new team. Especially after how they fired Willie they deserve everything that has happened to them over the past couple of years.
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I cursed the Mets in 2007.
The Yankees got off to a bad start and all of the Mets fans I know at the beach gave me a really hard time. One kid asked me how it felt to be in a race for last place with Tampa Bay. I kept laughing at them telling them “they didn’t win anything yet”.
The Yankees pulled together to make the playoffs.
The Mets collapsed the last week of the season.
Who felt silly then?
“Wow… apparently it just doesn’t seem to like Google Chrome?”
It’s the new Chrome update that was installed today.
Angl…
You made it!
# Jerkface July 28th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
And you “stink” in here worse than a skunk ! Really, asinine posts for days !!!
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Are you suggesting that Posada has good baseball instincts? He is by far one of the worst base runners in baseball, not just from a speed point a view but in all aspects.
Doesn’t make him a bad player, he is a great hitter.
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Yes, I’m saying Posada has good baseball instincts ! A near HOF’er doesn’t last in MLB being stupid, you JERK ! Now, say goodnight “know it all” JERK !!!
Jerkface is right, and his point isn’t particularly controversial.
The Yankees Win!
Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Yank-ees Win!!!!!
Why is the google chrome update affecting the filter?
New thread
Yankees pitch well and hit well to beat Cleveland
(I think Chad may have had that one ready ahead of time)
Oh Nick, how incredibly understanding of you to consider something like that!
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I’m just very unsympathetic. I’m unable to eat whatever, and whenever I want and still keep my job (calorie-counting sucks), so I figure he should be willing to suffer a bit for his team, too.
LGY
I have no idea.
But I noticed an update was installed today, and I couldn’t post with Chrome ever since.
Burnett should pie himself. Risk of injury less.
Goodnight all. Tomorrow another day to wrangle over whether Joba should go, and for whom!!
I did. Chad very nicely fixed it for me. Not sure what the problem was. But I still can’t post anything at all with Google Chrome, so I’ll just use IE for this blog.. Is anyone else having any trouble posting using Google Chrome? It’s too bad, its a good browser.
Erica in NY
They were an arrogant bunch. And they still are. You would think that after all the choke jobs, their pathetic history, and the fact that the Phillies won it all in 2008 and the Yankees in 2009 would humble them.
That’s why I hope they don’t win a Championship for many many years.
joba is just 24 years old, right now is at his worst trade value, we forget that there is a learning process in this game, if he gets traded, fine, but let’s just get of his back for a while. He is no longer in a position that could hurt the team anymore. Besides he didn’t allowed the inherited runner to score so that’s a positive
Jeremy July 28th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Cashmoney
I hope the Mets lose. Two teams I love to see fail are the Red Sox first and then the Mets.
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we know the score here , Jeremy. the Mets will always be the proverbial ‘little bro’ in this town.
# Jeremy July 28th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Erica in NY
They were an arrogant bunch. And they still are. You would think that after all the choke jobs, their pathetic history, and the fact that the Phillies won it all in 2008 and the Yankees in 2009 would humble them.
That’s why I hope they don’t win a Championship for many many years.
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couldn’t agree more.
I hope I am just seeing things but Swisher seemed to tweak his right shoulder when the 3 OF’ers did the victory jump. Probably turn out to be nothing, but with guys breaking legs/knees doing walk off celebrations and pies in the face lately… you can never be too careful.