Deal done: Oswalt to Philadelphia
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 29, 2010 
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The third front-line starter swirling through trade rumors has finally been traded. Ken Rosenthal reports that the deal is done sending Roy Oswalt to the Phillies for J.A. Happ and two minor leaguers.
Now that Oswalt, Dan Haren and Cliff Lee are off the market, the rotation options seem limited to second-tier guys like Ted Lilly. Unless the Yankees are extremely concerned about Andy Pettitte’s groin or Phil Hughes workload, I don’t see why that sort of addition would interest Brian Cashman, but what do I know? I guess anything makes sense at the right price.
Thats like a really bad trade, but not even the worst trade made in the last week. Whats wrong with GMs
Davidoff:
If Oswalt really wanted out “only if it helps the Astros” or whatever, wouldn’t he turn down this trade?
Rosenthal says that the Yanks have moved on from Dunn. At least for now.
Awful trade
No Aumont? Dominic Brown? Ken Singleton? And the Astros pay almost all of his salary for this year?
Basically the same trade as the Haren one… centered around a mediocre, back of the rotation lefty, except the Angels might be sending better secondary guys and had to pay the full salary.
SS Derek Jeter
RF Nick Swisher
1B Mark Teixeira
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
DH Jorge Posada
CF Curtis Granderson
C Francisco Cervelli
LF Brett Gardner
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Greinke
i got a great idea, bring up montero to dh, put him in the 8th spot.
adam dunn ain’t walking threw the door.
there no relievers that can be had.
cliff lee would been nice, but know the story.
flo won’t trade cody ross.
there nobody that can be had.
could bring back matsui, angels are toast and try to buy low on hideki
if they won’t bring jesus and cashman won’t
will Lebron have another appearance tonight in Cleveland?
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That kid was just asking for trouble. Good thing he did it at an Indians game, not the Browns. Luck for him that the cops got him out of there.
Why do we need another starter? We have Mosely.
If the Phillies buy out Oswalt, can still offer him arb and try to get picks?
•The Orioles may be concerned about making their team even worse by trading veterans, reports ESPN’s Buster Olney.
Come on, Buster. Just how much worse than the 1962 Mets can the Orioles get?
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I am content sticking with our starting pitching compliment.
Middle reliever and another left handed bat would be nice
ET July 29th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Awful trade
No Aumont? Dominic Brown? Ken Singleton? And the Astros pay almost all of his salary for this year?
Basically the same trade as the Haren one… centered around a mediocre, back of the rotation lefty, except the Angels might be sending better secondary guys and had to pay the full salary.
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Why would any team trade for Ken Singleton? He’s more than 60 years old.
Matsui would be the perfect fit…unless they are counting on NJ coming back from whatever crippling injury he had.
Matsui or Damon, of course…
Why did the Phillies trade Lee in the first place?
Call me nuts, but I would like to see crazy Kyle back in pinstripes. I think that Girardi and Eiland did a nice job with him, and my guess is that K.C. would part with him for mediocre prospects if the dollars were right.
And I like Singelton too.
But I would trade him for Kaat in a heartbeat.
If you’re the Royals and desperate for financial relief like the Astros and D-backs, you’re at those returns for Haren and Oswalt, thinking you should probably not look to move Greinke.
It’s obvious Cash is not parting with anything of value so a middle reliever at the last minute is all we might get.
“Matsui or Damon, of course…”
2009 called, she says it’s over. You’re just looking clingy and desperate now.
No Matsui, but Damon wouldn’t be bad if the Tigers throw in the towel.
I’d still take em if the price were right…
I’d love Damon.
What I wouldn’t love is the press conference when he says “NY is the place I always wanted to be”
edit: You’re looking at those returns for Haren and Oswalt
I don’t understand why the Astros are including so much money. In these deals you usually hear the better the prospects are the more money that will be included but these don’t seem like big time prospects. Happ isn’t unless the other 2 guys are. $15m isn’t that much money for Oswalt if the Phillies want him they should pay that. Now they only have to pay him $5m next year? That’s crazy, the Astros are stupid to send all of that money.
I’d still take em if the price were right…
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Which it wasn’t last winter and might be now for Damon …
“2009 called, she says it’s over. You’re just looking clingy and desperate now”
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ouch.
“2009 called, she says it’s over. You’re just looking clingy and desperate now”
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We can’t play musical DH in the playoffs.
Not a fan of going backwards, from a clubhouse dynamic standpoint.
Damon likely had a leadership role in the clubhouse and that vacuum has been filled this year and the team dynamic is now unique.
Damon (or even Matsui) coming back would create awkwardness if those players want/try to assume their previous roles.
I’d rather bring in a new blood to to create a new postseason dynamic, rather than trying to recapture an old one.
I don’t like the chances of that working out.
No on Matsui. His better days are in the past. Damon is a maybe, but the Tigers are still in it and will be until September.
It does look like the Yanks will be standing pat this summer. If there are any moves, they’ll probably be small meager ones, much in the vain of 09’s Hairston Jr or Hinske. In ‘10 tho, it may be more likely that it’ll be a bullpen guy.
Yankees don’t really need anything. A relief pitcher and a bat off the bench would be nice, but its not a necessity. Remember, one of the starters will be moved into the bullpen during the playoffs.
I’d rather bring in a new blood to to create a new postseason dynamic, rather than trying to recapture an old one.
I don’t like the chances of that working out.
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Calling David Justice, please report to YS…
These guys don’t grow on trees and the price is ridiculous.
Like I said, maybe NJ will reappear.
I hope I am not too late – massive traffic on the LIE
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada DH
Granderson CF
Cervelli C
GGBG LF
“We can’t play musical DH in the playoffs.”
I’m fine with bringing in a bat (though I’d be fine with Thames/Miranda/Johnson, maybe Montero goes supernuts in August). I just don’t like going backwards to get one.
“Damon (or even Matsui) coming back would create awkwardness if those players want/try to assume their previous roles. ”
Not really… no one has filled Damon’s specific leadership role yet (i.e. calling out struggling players in the media). So he could slide right back into that no problem
More than likely a Thames/Curtis DH platoon could happen.
We always had a wildcard like a Ledee or Chad Curtis to spark things come playoff time.
The Yanks don’t have room for an everyday DH. They need to leave that open since Posada is always banged up and the other veteran’s need a day here and there. If the Tigers fall out of it I would definitely take Damon back but not Matsui. Matsui’s bat has really slowed down and he hasn’t hit for weeks at a time this season. But the Yanks really need a relief pitcher much more than a hitter.
Erica -
You’re in.
“Not really… no one has filled Damon’s specific leadership role yet (i.e. calling out struggling players in the media). So he could slide right back into that no problem”
If you’re serious – wow.
If you’re being snarky – bravo!
If Nick Johnson reappears it will be in a cast
2 Days, 0 Hours, and 12 Minutes until the Trade Deadline!!!!
Calling players out in the media does nothing to help the struggling player. Some fans seem to get a big kick out of it, but the players learn from being talked to in private. They don’t pay attention more because someone says something to a reporter.
They either take the advice and try to get better, or they don’t. Making it public doesn’t tip the scales.
Calling David Justice, please report to YS
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except that was when we really needed a bat. A very necessary pick-up by Cash.
we don’t need one now. The offense is fine. Yankee fans are spoiled. And at times dilusional
Kansas City doesn’t need financial relief. They are one of the most profitable franchises in baseball.
Which is why they aren’t interested in moving Greinke or Soria unless a team just blows them away with an offer that makes it a great baseball trade for them.
Don’t believe that every small market team is in financial peril.
The Dodgers have more financial woes than the Royals at this point in time.
Texas just took a hit in their infield and in their line-up. Ian Kinsler goes on the DL with a groin strain.
Another possibility is catching Cervelli in the playoffs and letting Jorge DH, even though his #’s are down in that spot. Don’t think they will give Miranda the shot, maybe Thames vs lefties, Jorge rightys.
Jon Heyman
think houston did fine getting happ and gose in oswalt deal. philly has best rotation top-3 in baseball, too. 24 minutes ago
Yeah… Houston did great, a back of the rotation starter and 2 mediocre prospects AND paying most of his salary
SJ44 July 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Kansas City doesn’t need financial relief. They are one of the most profitable franchises in baseball.
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How do they get revenue?
From Sherman:
The Yankees have all but given up hope of landing Nationals slugger Adam Dunn, The Post has learned.
The Yankees consider the current asking price steep and would only deliver that kind of package for a game-changing necessity, such as Cliff Lee, not for someone they consider a luxury, such as Dunn.
Plus, the Yankees were worried about giving up significant prospects and not being sure about Dunn as a DH. Dunn has spent his entire career in the NL, so he has never DH’ed regularly and has said repeatedly he does not want to be exclusively a DH. That combination made the Yankees wonder if he would adapt to the job, especially when you add on a new league, a new city, and a level of expectation Dunn has never experienced with the Reds, Diamondbacks or Nationasl.
Similar worries also – coincidentally – moved the Yankees’ nearest AL East pursuer, the Rays, away from Dunn, as well.
Dunn is a well-below-average defender at either first base or the corner outfield, so the Yankees did not see using him in the field except for, perhaps, a spot start. In addition, the Yankees want to use the DH slot regularly down the stretch as a rest sanctuary for Jorge Posada, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter and Mark Teixeira.
To work through all of their issues involving Dunn, the Yankees feel the asking price by the Nationals would have to drop. But they are not anticipating that happening between now and the deadline at 4 p.m. Saturday. Thus, the frontrunners for Dunn appear to remain the White Sox and Giants.
think houston did fine getting happ and gose in oswalt deal. philly has best rotation top-3 in baseball, too. 24 minutes ago
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Is Cole Hamels back from the dead?
Sounds like to me that Cash was involved only to drive the price up on the Rays. Once they bailed, he bailed.
DH is definitely a rest sanctuary for Jorge Posada.
I never saw Dunn as a good fit.
Has anybody heard if Nick the Sick will be back at DH?
Isn’t Minute Maid Park terrible for LH pitchers?
“Texas just took a hit in their infield and in their line-up. Ian Kinsler goes on the DL with a groin strain”
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sad news. Texas has become one of my favorite teams this year. Namely, any team which can beat down the Angels
Captain Clutch July 29th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
I don’t understand why the Astros are including so much money. In these deals you usually hear the better the prospects are the more money that will be included but these don’t seem like big time prospects. Happ isn’t unless the other 2 guys are. $15m isn’t that much money for Oswalt if the Phillies want him they should pay that. Now they only have to pay him $5m next year? That’s crazy, the Astros are stupid to send all of that money
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Everything in Texas is bigger…..and dumber
New Post:
Posada not in the lineup.
bret,
The Royals have one of the most successful regional sports network in the country. They also draw well, have an above average local radio deal and solid sponsorship deals.
Add in the revenue sharing money they receive and they are a very profitable franchise.
The Yankees can make do at DH with a combo of Curtis / Thames.
Albaladejo and Nova are a phone call away at AAA.
No sense in overpaying for Dunn, Downs, or Lilly.
mick July 29th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Has anybody heard if Nick the Sick will be back at DH
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yes…as long as DH stands for Deteriorating Health
Vinny, unless Texas brings in somebody from the farm, other teams will hold them up for help. My guess is that their cheapest option would be Willie Bloomquist, who would make a pretty good utility player for NYYs.
SJ44 July 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Kansas City doesn’t need financial relief. They are one of the most profitable franchises in baseball.
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How do they get revenue?
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Indirectly? From Yankee fans!
what about lance berkman.
he only hitting 245, but his ops is over 800