Moseley: “I just roll with it”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Podcast on Jul 29, 2010 
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Back in 2000, Dustin Moseley was a supplemental first-round pick out of a high school on the Arkansas side of Texarkana. He thought he’d made it to the big leagues to stay after a strong 2007 season, but that winter he had surgery to repair his ulnar nerve. He struggled in 2008, spent most of last season in Triple-A, and had hip surgery last August. It was the same procedure Alex Rodriguez went through last spring.
In some ways, it’s the only reason he’s with the Yankees today. Brian Cashman was the only general manager willing to give him a direct invitation into big league camp this spring.
“Most every team wanted to see me throw bullpens previous to coming into camp,” Moseley said. “These guys said, you know what, we’ll bring you in, and if you’re not 100 percent yet, we’ll work with you. You take your time. That was a big thing for me.”
At this point, Moseley isn’t guaranteed more than one start, and he’s fine with that. “I’m so past trying to control my life and my career,” he said. “I roll with it.”
Here’s Moseley talking before yesterday’s game. The conversation started just as Moseley and A.J. Burnett were joking with one another about two Arkansas boys making back-to-back starts for the Yankees.
“WYH – refuding is not a word…”
It isn’t? I thought I heard someone use a form of it on TV…
Good for him. Hopefully he can get on an Aaron Small type roll for a few weeks.
The conversation started just as Moseley and A.J. Burnett were joking with one another about two Arkansas boys making back-to-back starts for the Yankees.
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LOL
” The conversation started just as Moseley and A.J. Burnett were joking with one another about two Arkansas boys making back-to-back starts for the Yankees.”
Can’t wait for Lee to show up to round out the trio.
He’s the Boss Hog.
I’ll take 2 wins outta the next 4, either way that breaks down.
Joelsherman1 #WhiteSox pitching coach Don Cooper beileves this is just the start for Strasburg and shoulder problems: http://bit.ly/dqGqFW
A real feel good story. I wish him Luck be it here or elsewhere
I’ll take 2 wins outta the next 4, either way that breaks down.
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I agree!!! Going 4-3 on a road trip is doing fine.
Early line on probables for the Boston series (though Boston has no off days, so barring injury there’s is pretty much a lock).
I’m also assuming Pettitte will answer the bell.
Vasquez – Buchholz
Sabathia – Lackey
Burnett – Beckett
Pettitte – Lester
Yanks have an off-day the day before, so they could skip Vasquez and move everyone up, but I don’t see them doing that.
Wave Your Hat July 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
“WYH – refuding is not a word…”
It isn’t? I thought I heard someone use a form of it on TV…
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It was, sort of. it was used in the sentence, “Well, I see them boys are refeuding again.”
GB7-
LOL.
Gotta hope that the Strasburg thing is not chronic. What a shame that would be. Just goes to show you what a kid phenom pitcher does for the game. It’s Nuke Laloosh come to life.
Is anyone else bothered by the tendency of AJ to refer to himself in the third person, a la Jimmy from Seinfeld? see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism
I think A-Rod should just say he’s skipping 600 and going on to 601. He can come back and hit 600 anytime
Gonna be in Falmouth next week, going to take in a Cape Cod League game or two and eat lots of chowda’. BTW, Great Baseball Book about the Cape Cod League. “The Last Best League: One Summer, One Season, One Dream.”
I really like this guy. I was just watching the “YES Network InnerView” featuring Dustin Moseley and he seems like the nicest guy, really enjoys being up here with the Yankees. I wish him the absolute best and hope he sticks on this team for quite awhile.
I doubt Andy goes against Boston. They will take it slow with him.
I like the sound of Mosely. And I think the Yanks did the right thing with him, giving him a chance to heal without pressure. A good story, and I hope he has success.
Yankees are winning ALL of the next 4 games, watch and see ALL, watch and see !
refueding?
did i miss some joke somewhere?
There’s a great article in the new SI on Stan the Man if anyone is interested.
“refueding?
did i miss some joke somewhere?”
ID, you are watching too many Yankee games, if that is possible.
Yankees are going to PLOW though all these series up through the end of August, then September will see them WAY out in front so they can ease into the postseason rested and ready to take another Championship !
I’d roll with this guy as the fifth starter until Andy returns. When he does, I’d try finding a spot for Moseley as the long reliever.
murphydog July 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Is anyone else bothered by the tendency of AJ to refer to himself in the third person, a la Jimmy from Seinfeld? see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism
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murph-I was reading that this morning, and that was the first thing I thought of!!
Washington would be a lot smarter if they changed the wording on their statement from “Strasburg is day to day” to Strasburg is week to week” and just shut him down.
refuting !
to refute !
Refudiate
http://voices.washingtonpost.c.....es-he.html
As an intellectual, Sarah is pretty darned great looking. I’ll go no further.
Murphy-
Good luck up there in enemy territory.
Contct Randy for a complete list of “safe houses”.
Erin:
http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheJimmy.htm
“The Jimmy” Uncut!
“contact”. Sorry. My millionth typo. A new LoHud record.
murhydog,
Which of the 57 states is Sarah from, guess I am acting “stupidly” by asking.
Yay, a murphydog sighting!
Have a great time on the Cape. When my son was younger, we camped there quite a few times. The summer league games were so much fun to watch.
“Which of the 57 states is Sarah from, guess I am acting “stupidly” by asking.”
I once heard there was no such thing as a stupid question, but I have my doubts about that…
MTU:
Good luck up there in enemy territory.
Contct Randy for a complete list of “safe houses”
While on the Cape, I play up my Irish roots rather than my pinstriped blood, so I wear my Guinness ballcap and leave the Interlocking NY at home. Hell, I’m there to relax, so “Give them Barabas,” I always say.
MTU July 29th, 2010 at 11:51 am
“contact”. Sorry. My millionth typo. A new LoHud record.
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You make me look like “Alfred Ienstine”.
upstate kate:
Great to be sighted
Just need to get away for a bit. Looking forward to some cheap fun in the sun
MTU-
Typos are a direct result of too much sun and too much scenery. You need to move to good old NYC my man, no more typos for you!
murphydog July 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Erin:
http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheJimmy.htm
?The Jimmy? Uncut!
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Very cool-thanks for the link! I love that episode.
Moseley makes for a great story. The Yankees can live with 5-6 good innings tonight and nothing more.
How about A.J. last night? That is the curve-ball I have been wanting to see all year. When he throws that 55 feet, of course the hitters are going to lay off. When that pitch is thrown for a strike or appears to be a strike coming out of his hand, he’s awful tough.
Nice to see Joba gets 2 outs in the 7th and Mitre mop up with 2 strong innings himself.
Which of the 57 states is Mrs. Palin from?
She is way too nice looking for me to think about her brains. I just let her be the really attractive woman next door who used to be in politics. I think that’s enough for one lifetime for her.
Alright. We’re going to witness a bloodbath on MLB between two idiots.
Astros, Phillies Reach Oswalt Agreement; Approval Needed
By Tim Dierkes [July 29 at 10:43am CST]
10:43am: MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki tweets that he hears Singleton is in the deal, but Rosenthal tweets that the first baseman is not. Rosenthal believes the Phillies are getting less than $12MM, guessing a few million less.
Murphy-
I understand. Since you are using a form stealth it would appear you will not even require a safe house.
I withdraw my suggestion Counselor.
Anyway. Have fun.
WYH-
Thanks for the suggestion but I think I would rather have to kiss Nurse Wratchet full on the lips.
Glass and steel canyons would never work for me.
murphydog July 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Which of the 57 states is Mrs. Palin from?
She is way too nice looking for me to think about her brains. I just let her be the really attractive woman next door who used to be in politics. I think that’s enough for one lifetime for her.
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Sort of the “Mrs. Robinson” of politics, huh?
MTU-
Just trying to help…
WYH-
With friends like you who needs enemies !
Thanks for the suggestion but I think I would rather have to kiss Nurse Wratchet full on the lips
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Pat M., gave me a better name last night. New name would be Nurse Youkilis.
GB-
“Pat M., gave me a better name last night. New name would be Nurse Youkilis.”
You mean to tell me that on top of being able to lick off a whole bodies worth of bear grease, swallow a stilleto like it was candy, and almost gnaw off your leg that she is bald too.
Oh. I’m gonna be sick. excuse me while I throw up.
GreenBeret7 July 29th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Pat M., gave me a better name last night. New name would be Nurse Youkilis.
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Now that’s a scary thought. Wow. If I have nightmares tonight, I’m blaming you and Pat M.
youk in a nurses’s uniform…thanks for that disturbing image GB…good thing it is broad daylight.
Nice to see that MLB GMs read this blog and take suggestions. Washington has put Strasburg on the DL.
Very happy to brighten your day. Always a good thing to smile when you’re throwing up.
Funny when a player is listed as day-to-day. Aren’t we all ?
It kind of sounds like Oswalt is backing out.
Jaysonst
Hearing Oswalt not a fan of Citizens Bk Pk, but he’s 4-0, 2.60 ERA in 4 starts-tied with Coors for best win pct at any current park. #trades
2 minutes ago via web
“Funny when a player is listed as day-to-day. Aren’t we all ?”
Nope. Growing up most people I knew were “check to check” or 1st and 15th. Days meant nothing.
Oswalt isn’t backing out, he’s negotiating.
According to a post on MLB Trade Rumors the Angels are now open to being sellers in wake of the Piniero injury.
Cue up the bring back Matsui discussion!
GB-
I feel better now having purged myself. The thought of Wratchet morphing into Youkilis just turned my stomach instantly. She was bad enough before without getting an upgrade in ugly.
Apple-
I prefer to think of it as “circling the drain” as a friend of mine likes to put it.
Story on MLBtraderumors.com
that the Angels could be sellers…would Cashman try to get Matsui back…I think his role from last year would be perfect for the Yankees this year!!!
LGY,
I saw that and thought the same thing..
Bring back Sui ! Bring back Sui ! Bring back Sui !
Let’s hear it !
I want Sui back!!!!!
they just traded for haren, piniero is not that big of a loss… rofl…
man i can’t wait til sunday. twitter has officially ruined baseball in july.
Miranda (1st base this year dh next for the angels), melancon and russo for matsui and one of their better relievers
yeah, or we could just keep all those guys and not pay for a broken down old man.
Melancon and Russo have no trade value. Miranda has minimal trade value.
Aside from his games against the Yankees, Matsui hasn’t hit at all this year.
Not seeing the Yankees trading three players for him at this point. Also not seeing the Angels trade him for AAA roster fodder.
they just traded for haren, piniero is not that big of a loss… rofl
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i tend to disagree, pineiro was at worst their 4th best starter (at best their 3rd best), its almost like if the yankees got cliff lee and the pettite being lost for 6 – 8 weeks….lee would have helped but you still feel pettite’s loss for that much time
http://sports.espn.go.com/dall.....id=5419742
A-Rod files an objection to the Rangers bankruptcy plan. He wants to know where he’s going to get his money from.
Godzilla gets no love.
I like Matsui as much as the next guy. But he’s not having a good yr. Why would the Yanks rush out and make a trade for him?
I don’t think the Angels are selling before the deadline and I don’t think the Yankees would give up much for Matsui (who hasn’t been good this year)…now later in the year if he made it through waivers and the Yanks could get him for nothing….then yea maybe.
CC-
As a Yankee he would be a pure DH again.
He is a post-season good luck charm.
He likes hitting in YS.
Better than spending a fortune on Paul Bunyan Dunn.
It shouldn’t take that much to get him back if the Halos are sellers.
2009 through 100 games:
61-39: 556 runs scored, +80 run differential
2010 through 100 games:
64-36: 545 runs scored, +134 run differential
The Yankees have successfully moved on.
Time the fans did too.
lol, i was tellin someone at the game on sunday that podsednik was killing us because he was trying to get out of KC, and he did (traded to dodger). good for him :p
Can the Phillies even afford to pick up Oswalt’s 16 million dollar option for 2012?
I really liked the way Mosely attacked the strike zone coming in for Mitre the other day.
I hope he can work like that today on the mound. That’s all I could ask for from a 5th starter holding Andy’s place.
I am concerned about Posada though. I hate the idea of bringing up Moeller or another retread catch and throw guy.
I would give Montero a look. Bring him up here and let Pena and Girardi get their hooks into him now.
The one thing you can’t diminish is Tony Pena’s influence on this team over the years. He’s helped Jorge become a better defensive catcher since his arrival.
If some GM figures out he is an excellent candidate to manage their team we’ll lose him.
I’d do everything I could to get him to work with Montero directly now since he’s still here under contract.
SJ44 July 29th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Melancon and Russo have no trade value. Miranda has minimal trade value
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I agree with your statement, but i was going on the claim that the angels may be sellers – if they are they ain’t getting much back for matsui and most likely won’t offer him arbitration (if they even can) next year – so they trade for miranda in hopes he may turn out like morales and see if melancon can become what everyone was saying he could a few years ago…as for russo they just traded for collapse-o (misspelling intentional) so why not try someone else there in hopes again that he may blossom. If anything the angels seem to have good luck with turning average/below average infielders into serviceable major leaguers..
Doreen-hope you don’t mind that I post my GTLU entry early. I’m leaving work in a few minutes, and wanted to make sure I got it in on time since I won’t be around a computer for a couple of hours.
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Teixeira
DH Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
LF Gardner
3B Pena
Thanks!!
When folks talk trade re: the Yankees, remember one important thing…..
They aren’t taking on a lot of payroll unless its for an impact guy.
They will take on a little extra payroll for a bench and/or a bullpen piece.
Anything more than that? It has to be an impact guy.
An upper end starting pitcher is someone they would take on significant payroll to acquire. That’s why they we in on Lee and Haren.
Adam Dunn? He’s an impact enough guy to take on more payroll.
What they won’t do is trade a cost controlled player to add more payroll to a guy who won’t play everyday.
Its not how Cashman has done business the last three years and he’s not changing now.
Even when they got Hinske for the bench last year, he had the Pirates kick in 400K in the deal.
Its why the later we go into the process, I see the Yankees either going big or just sitting tight and waiting out the waiver period in August.
Angels are not selling but they’re also not short term buyers – the guys they’ve brought in, Callaspo and Haren, are guys they’ll have for a while.
As for how Ruben Amaro deals with the fall-out from his fans as to why he dealt Lee and is now dealing for Oswalt:
Well you can’t justify the Blanton deal – there’s no way to explain away that money, it was a bad signing, that’s it.
And while everyone knows that the Phillies would likely have been better holding onto Lee; Amaro can say “well look, we didn’t think we would be able to keep Cliff beyond this year and if we did it would be at a much higher average annual value than what we’ve committed to Oswalt.”
SJ44 July 29th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
An upper end starting pitcher is someone they would take on significant payroll to acquire. That’s why they we in on Lee and Haren.
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Do you put Oswalt in that category?
Dunn is a better hitter than Matsui. At this point, its not even close.
There are no “good luck charms”. Either a guy can play or he can’t and Matsui hasn’t played well this year.
Bringing him back really doesn’t help the Yankees in any measurable way other than to give fans of Matsui the chance to cheer him.
As far as the on field product, that’s not enough to warrant the move.
SJ -
I half agree
I think that the Yankees will take on payroll for a bench player – Barmes just to throw a name out there – if the other team will accept less in return for him.
If the other team wants a better prospect then the Yankees will request them take back money.
By the way, I don’t know if you saw it but Seattle reportedly asked for Pablo Sandoval in return for David Aardsma – they (the Mariners) said they would be willing to throw in Jose Lopez as if that would sweeten the deal.
They aren’t in on Oswalt bret. Never really were. They aren’t big fans of smaller pitchers with a lot of miles on his arm and body.
The Phillies have a ton of money. They are one of the most successful franchises in the game.
They would have signed Werth if his off field “activities” didn’t cause them concern so, they can easily afford Oswalt if they so choose.
The effing Rays are like a dog nipping at our heels.
Real pain in the keyster.
They are seeking to improve at the deadline.
I hope we do too.
Any improvements will be welcome however slight they might be.
And if they turn out to be big ones so much the better.
I don’t want a dogfight to the finish. I want to put the Rays back in the kennel ASAP.
Hope I get my wish.
Barmes doesn’t make that much money. Taking on an extra 1- 1.5 million isn’t a big deal.
Its when you are over 2-4 million is when you get into the danger area.
Especially when the upgrade isn’t that much more significant than an in house solution.
“The effing Rays are like a dog nipping at our heels.
Real pain in the keyster.
They are seeking to improve at the deadline.
I hope we do too.
Any improvements will be welcome however slight they might be.
And if they turn out to be big ones so much the better.
I don’t want a dogfight to the finish. I want to put the Rays back in the kennel ASAP.
Hope I get my wish.
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Or in other words, you fear the Rays.
If the Yankees were to go after anyone on the Angels I might suggest Brian Fuentes. He’s given up too many HR (5 in 30 IP) but he’s holding LH batters to a .133 BA.
SJ44 July 29th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
They aren’t in on Oswalt bret.
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But why were they in on Lee and moreso Haren? Lee was a rental and Haren has as many negatives against him as Oswalt. Haren’s arm has plenty of mileage as well.
as for matsui being finished – he’s batting 251 with 14hr’s and 55rbi – which translates to what 20 hr’s and 80rbi for 140 games – much better than what the yankees are dragging up to the lineup at the DH spot right now..
heres a question – assuming dunn isn’t coming – who would you rather have at DH come playoff time
matsui and his history for producing at crunch time
the ghost of nick johnson
juan “i’m batting 209″ miranda
posada (with frank “i’ve already shot my load in april” cervelli catching)
or….
johnny damon
(just kidding)
For the people that would be open to acquiring Matsui, the thing you have to really consider is if his struggles for LHP this year so far are an anamoly or a product of his aging.
He is hitting RHP as well as he has in recent years with an .836 OPS.
His OPS vs LHP though is a Curtis Granderson like .575 OPS.
Irreverent Discourse July 29th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
they just traded for haren, piniero is not that big of a loss… rofl…
man i can’t wait til sunday. twitter has officially ruined baseball in july.
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They are now down to 4 starters since they used one of their ML starters to trade. Yeah…they won’t miss their #3 pitcher at all.
MTU,
The Yanks haven’t been able to separate much from the Rays but the good news is that both of those teams have separated from the rest of the league….
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Pena 3B
*scratch that, A-Rod at DH I meant
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez DH
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Pena 3B
Bret -
Lee being a FA doesn’t concern the Yankees, they have confidence that they can sign him, plus he’s an elite level pitcher.
Dan Haren is 4 or 5 years younger than Oswalt and has had success in the American League. Oswalt is a small town guy that many believe would melt under the pressure of playing in NY – plus he’s owed more money over a shorter period of time than Oswalt.
History means nothing. Take Matsui’s numbers against the Yankees out of his slash line and he hasn’t hit this year.
You also can’t project the numbers all the way out because he has been so up and down, there is no guarantee he can keep up his pace.
Playing in the OF hasn’t helped Matsui at all this year.
At this point in his career, he represents a more nostalgic investment than a good baseball decision.
Posada may end up DH’ing in the post season and he’s a better hitter than Matsui is at this point in their respective careers.
Bret,
Lee wasn’t going to be a rental. If they acquired him, they would have signed him long term after the season.
They valued Haren more than Oswalt because Haren has pitched successfully in the AL in the past, and they felt his deal was friendlier than the Oswalt deal.
Brian Fuentes is owed about 4 million more for this season and has a vesting option for 2011.
Too rich for what the Yankees want to do and he isn’t that good.
They aren’t tying up 4 million in an up and down setup guy for the rest of the year.
Today’s Guess The Line Up is Now Open For Business
Submit lineups until 3:30 p.m. or until an official lineup is posted. Good luck.
Stuckey-
I prefer to think of the Rays as a pain in the rear.
I was hoping they would be gone by now.
I still think we come out on top of them but I wouldn’t feel bad if they just disappeared.
Like I said I am not interested in this thing going down to the wire I’d much prefer it if we opened up a significant gap and just cruised to the finish line all rested and refreshed.
What is your take with respect to us and the Rays ?
You want the dogfight to the finish ? Don’t think their will be one ?
GTLU
SS JETE
RF SWISH
1B TEX
3B AROD
2B CANO
DH POSADA
CF GRANDY
C FRISCO
LF GARDNER
Chip,
Haren is turning 30. Oswalt is turning 33.
That’s not 4-5 years. It’s 3.
I doubt age had anything to do with it.
Lee, even if re-signed after a trade, was still a rental because the Yankees are signing him regardless.
The package they offered for Lee when they were in on him, was for those 4 extra months.
I think the Yank will go after 2 or 3 players. A utility infielder, a right-handed hitting outfielder and a reliever.
I would be ecstatic to get Dunn, he’s a great player, but I doubt the Yanks go that route.
I’m thinking a middle reliever type of guy that will replace one of Park/Gaudin/Moseley, we aren’t getting Soria or a big time set-up guy.
Next, a guy like Jerry Hairston (although I don’t think Jerry is available) would be useful to replace Pena.
Finally, the team could really use a corner OF that can hit left-handed pitchers. Granderson will need to sit vs certain lefties and Marcus Thames is not the answer. He can’t field and his hitting since April has been very underwhelming.
So basically I figure Cashman will make 2 small moves (maybe after the deadline), and one medium move for the outfielder. I guess we’ll see soon…
The Rays are going to be in the race all year as long as their starting pitching holds up.
They are too well balanced a team to go away.
If one of the starters goes down? That will be a problem for them.
They are the only team in baseball this season who have had only five guys start for them in games this year.
All around though, they are a very good team.
Much better than the Red Sox, which is why I don’t get the obsession some folks on here have about the Red Sox.
I’d be much more worried about the Rays.
SJ44,
Do the Yankees think Haren would outpitch Oswalt in the AL?
Oswalt was outpitching Haren in the NL this year by a long shot.
Haren’s WHIP was nearly 1/2 baserunner per inning higher.
Oswalt’s contract isn’t that much bigger and his K/9 totals are as high as any season since his rookie year.
“At this point, Moseley isn’t guaranteed more than one start, and he’s fine with that. “I’m so past trying to control my life and my career,” he said. “I roll with it.””
We can all learn from that.
We talked about this yesterday, but the Jays are out of their minds:
SI_JonHeyman #jays asked #mets for top OF prospect kirk nieuwenhuis plus another for scott downs. mets saying no on nieuwenhuis
“Next, a guy like Jerry Hairston (although I don’t think Jerry is available) would be useful to replace Pena.”
Melvin Mora
Everytime I see the Cards play I’m left with one thought: How can a team with such an awful offense and mediocre pitching staff be in the playoff picture year after year?
LGY July 29th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
?Next, a guy like Jerry Hairston (although I don’t think Jerry is available) would be useful to replace Pena.?
Melvin Mora
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Mora hasn’t been a good defensive player in 3 years now.
bret,
I think Haren and Oswalt would be close in the AL. Haren though is younger, bigger, stronger, and healthier, with a more favorable contract.
When two guys are that close, you always go with the deal more favorable to your long range plan.
In this case, that would have been Haren’s deal.
Water under the bridge now though.
What’s interesting is, if the Angels didn’t move on Haren on Sunday, I wonder if they would have moved on him after the Sox series.
One of life’s unanswered questions.
SJ, I was at a Connie Mack game again last night which displays some of the top HS players that will be headliners next spring……Your boy Brackman’s name came up and he’s on many a GM’s ……The impression was that Brian Cashman is very reluctant to even discuss moving him……
I think Bret has more trade info than Jon Heyman at this point.
“Mora hasn’t been a good defensive player in 3 years now.”
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Neither has Hairston
chip – how do the cards have an awful offense? pujols holliday ludwick rasmus… and a molina! that’s way better off than most teams, especially in the NL central.
I heard a quote from MLBTR, they said that the real prices for relievers will emerge Friday night or Saturday morning. I think that’s completely true, and I’m certain that we’ll end up with somebody. Cashman already knows that the current bullpen isn’t good enough to win a World Championship with.
SJ44,
I dunno. Haren wasn’t throwing well at all while Oswalt’s fastball has returned and his WHIP was drastically lower than Haren’s.
There’s only a 3 year age difference.
I don’t think Haren hold’s any drastic advantage over Oswalt that would lead the Yankees to be in on one guy and totally disinterested in the other.
lgy – hairston has been an above average defender for the last 6 years.
I don’t like seeing the Yankees playing teams that are on a streak…either winning or losing. They get dangerous.
Ugh, Melvin Mora? How about we actually go after an infielder that can play SS? I thought that Peralta would’ve been a perfect fit for the Yankees, but he’s gone now.
raymagnetic July 29th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
I think Bret has more trade info than Jon Heyman at this point.
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The beauty if his job is he gets paid to spread lies. Even if he’s being misled or fed misinformation, he still gets his money. Must be nice. He’s the Perez Hilton of baseball blogging.
Haren is an elite innings eater and strikeout guy.
He has significant more value than Oswalt because of the number of innings he pitches and is the type of pitcher Cashman covets.
MTU, I tend not to put too much weight in the GB’s category.
Yankees have been playing on a consistent 103-14 win pace ALL year with little hiccups.
I expect them to finish around there so I suspect the Rays will finish 3 or 4 games back at best.
Will it get even closer over the weekend? Maybe, but again, I look at big picture when I look at the standings.
And I’m not sure I have a firm standing on the ‘take your foot off the gas/play through the final day” debate.
You can argue both sides successfully.
As such, I’m not really thinking about it much either way.
I KNOW the Yankees will be playing in the off-season. I suspect they’ll be opening at home against Minnesota (again).
Other than that, how they get their exactly isn’t much of a concern.
The Yankees would like to get a righty bat, who ideally can spell A-Rod at 3B, DH and play the outfield.
They would also like an arm for the pen. It’s apparent that Aceves may not return in time to be effective, so they’re still looking
I agree with SJ that an impact bat would help, but the price for Dunn thus far is prohibitive.
Frankly, other than Ty Wiggington, the person I’d like to have is Lowell. Yes, Mike Lowell. But it ain’t happening.
oswalt and haren are both great pitchers. no sense in trying to figure out who is better, and you certainly don’t look at this season to figure that out anyway…
… but you don’t buy the guy (oswalt) having his best season in 3-4 years. you buy low on haren. that’s more likely why the yankees were not in on oswalt. it may also have something to do with the fact that the astros have been trying to trade oswalt for years and he has repeatedly said he won’t pitch in NY. sucks for him.
I’m sorry, but I had to giggle a little when I read someone’s post above that said Matsui was a good luck charm in the post-season.
I LOVE Matsui, BUT – last season was the first WS win for him with the Yankees. Most of the time he was here, they didn’t even get that far – 2003 they won the AL Pennant, lost the WS, need I go on?
I think the ship has sailed on Matsui.
LGY July 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Haren is an elite innings eater and strikeout guy.
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He isn’t/wasn’t throwing well though. His WHIP was anything but elite.
He is an innings eater though.
I don’t think he projects to outpitch Oswalt in the AL by enough to warrant the Yankees being in on Haren but totally against or disinterested in Oswalt.
I don’t think a bench guy will be a big priority. Nor a middle relief guy.
If the Yanks acquire anyone it will be for someone has will have a postseason impact.
Not sure the above 2 qualify.
Irreverent Discourse July 29th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
chip ? how do the cards have an awful offense? pujols holliday ludwick rasmus? and a molina! that?s way better off than most teams, especially in the NL central.
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Pujols and Holliday are givens –
but last night for example, behind Holliday was Yadier Molina in the 5 spot…a 5 hitter with an OPS of .627 is insane. Ludwick has been in and out of the lineup and Rasmus looks like he might become very good but he’s still got a ways to go.
ow can a team with such an awful offense and mediocre pitching staff be in the playoff picture year after year?”
Carpenter, Wainwright, Pujols, good defense, good pitching philosophy plays to the strengths of the team.
“Melvin Mora”
Uhh no.
“Neither has Hairston”
Not true. He’s a plus defender at several positions.
“Ugh, Melvin Mora? How about we actually go after an infielder that can play SS? I thought that Peralta would’ve been a perfect fit for the Yankees, but he’s gone now.”
Thought you said you wanted someone that can play SS? Peralta is terrible at the plate and in the field.
Bret,
No one is trading for the 2010 version of Haren. If as an organization you think he is pitching to his true talent level this year, it does not make much sense at all to pursue him.
You are trading for him because you believe 2010 is not who he really is.
Irreverent Discourse July 29th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
oswalt and haren are both great pitchers. no sense in trying to figure out who is better, and you certainly don’t look at this season to figure that out anyway…
… but you don’t buy the guy (oswalt) having his best season in 3-4 years. you buy low on haren. that’s more likely why the yankees were not in on oswalt.
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But you can’t discount Oswalt’s track record. Based on it, he’s likely to not suffer a drastic correction from his current level of performance. He’s a safe, buy market value type of guy. He’s not having a break-out year that guys have when you buy high.
The way Haren was pitching he was a huge risk with 33 million owed and the D-Backs asking for top prospects supposedly.
I just don’t see how it’s so clear that the Yankees would be in on Haren and totally disinterested in Oswalt.
Oswalt is an ace.
Here’s why a bench guy – an infield bench guy, or power DH – is needed: The Rays are only a couple games back, and apparently aren’t going away. That said, the Yankees need to be able to rest their veterans: A-Rod due to his hip, Jeter, due to his Jeterness, and even Tex, so that they’re rested for the playoffs. But they can’t afford to lose ground while they do so. They have to keep pace or even open up some room.
Having Pena, Russo, Miranda, or anyone of their ilk, while great pieces and good young players, doesn’t help them keep the offense humming when one of the above guys is out.
Can you all just agree that the Yankees are secretly “in on” Oswalt so we can just move on from this silly topic?
GB7 -
But if the have to play a team on a streak, I’d rather it’s a winning streak than a losing streak. Streaks have to end, and I’d rather the winning streak end than the losing streak, you know? (FOr the other other team, of course)
He isn’t/wasn’t throwing well though. His WHIP was anything but elite.
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WHIP doesn’t really tell you much except for how a guy has done in that season. Its not predicative. Haren had many things favoring a correction towards his prior numbers. Also has pitched in the AL before.
“I think the ship has sailed on Matsui.”
If he can be had cheaply, he’s worth a look. Wouldn’t hurt what the Yankees are getting out of the DH spot.
Matsui in 2010: .251, 14 homers, 55 rbi .332/.423/.755
NYY DH spot in 2010: .251, 13 homers, 48 rbi .358/.425/.783
With the Yankees likely wanting to commit to Posada at C for most, if not all of the postseason games, having a regular DH wouldn’t hurt.
“Having Pena, Russo, Miranda, or anyone of their ilk, while great pieces and good young players, doesn’t help them keep the offense humming when one of the above guys is out.”
How much better do you want the offense to be than the best offense in baseball?
Stuckey-
I agree that the Yanks will definitely be in the PS barring some major catasrophe.
My hope and belief is that they do so a the Pennant winner.
I don’t think it would happen but it would be a problem in my mind if they somehow managed to enter the fray as the WC team instead of the way I hope.
If the Rays could be put back in their box sooner rather than later I
prefer it.
I don’t want the Yankees to have to battle it out to the bitter end with them.
Not interested in having the Rays replace the Red Sox as our nemesis-in-chief.
I much prefer to execute them now and just lop off their heads.
That is what I hope we do.
“A-Rod due to his hip, Jeter, due to his Jeterness, and even Tex, so that they’re rested for the playoffs. But they can’t afford to lose ground while they do so. They have to keep pace or even open up some room.”
The Yankees have been resting guys all year and have the best record in the league. Resting guys hasn’t hurt them thus far.
“I KNOW the Yankees will be playing in the off-season.”
What will they be playing and how do you know?
Jerkface,
What do you honestly think would happen if Oswalt pitched in the AL?
The guy is the younger than Halladay with comparable WHIP and K/9.
I don’t see the purpose of avoiding Oswalt altogether.
There is no major black mark against Roy Oswalt.
He’s an ace and he’s pitching like one.
I wonder if Damon is available.
Jerry Hairston is still a very good defensive player. And if the Padres weren’t in the race I would say try to pry away both Hairstons from them.
Wiggington’s not going to happen. For some reason Peter Angelos still thinks his team is relevant in the AL East and so he doesn’t want to trade with a “rival”
Middle infielders/bench guys I would target:
Clint Barmes
Ryan Theriot
Jamey Carroll
Willie Bloomquist
Felipe Lopez
Macier Izturis
Stuckey, I hear what you’re saying, but if that premise were true, they wouldn’t be looking to add pieces at all. If you think that a 2 game lead brings comfort to Cashman or Girardi, I think you’re mistaken. Yanks want to win the division, not be the Wild Card.
I fully believe that Granderson, Tex, and Jeter will improve offensively, but regardless, I don’t believe for 1 micro-second that management is looking at anyone who isn’t considered an offensive asset.
oswalt has repeatedly said that he will not accept a trade to either new york team. why waste breath figuring out how to get him if he doesn’t want to pitch for you?
The guy is the younger than Halladay with comparable WHIP and K/9.
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Stop using WHIP. Flukey good year in K’ing batters after hovering between 6 and 7 k/9 for the last 6 years. Roy Halladay the past 3 years pitches deeper into games, strikes out more, walks less, gives up less HRs, gets more ground balls.
MLBTR
12:12pm: Oswalt plans to OK the deal, but it’s not official yet, reports Stark. He adds that the Astros will be sending $11MM. Rosenthal tweets that Oswalt’s 2012 option will not be exercised; he’ll be compensated some other way. ESPN’s Amy K. Nelson tweets that Oswalt will get $1MM added by the Phillies to the buyout of his ‘12 option. She adds that the details are being worked out now regarding Oswalt retaining his no-trade clause.
ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick tweets of a rumor that speedy outfield prospect Anthony Gose may be in the deal. AOL FanHouse’s Ed Price tweets that he’s hearing Gose and Worley could be in the deal.
Pena is great defensively at SS, and good at 3B or 2B.
Miranda is adequate at 1B.
Russo was ok at 3B, good at SS and can play 2B.
Nothing was/is wrong with any of them. So why try to replace them as utility infielders?
It’s not their defensive abilities, it’s their consistency with hitting. It’s offense.
If the Yankees traded for Willie Bloomquist, I’d seriously question their commitment to winning baseball games.
MTU,
I’d argue that anything the Yankees are very likely to do in terms of trades is not going to be solely responsible for creating the separation you are looking for.
That could and might happen either way, but my point was, you’d have to really pull off a blockbuster and have it work out Sabathia/Milwaukee style in order for the Yanks to INCREASE their 103-4 win pace.
THAT’s how you look at it. Nothing the Yankees add or do will change how many games the Rays will win this year.
You’re asking that the Yankees makes moves to significantly upgrade their win pace.
Given what it currently is, not sure that’s realistic.
Again, stop looking at the current GB column and stop looking at what you perceive to be the balance of talent between the two teams. That’s a misleading way of looking at the standings, and remainder of the season.
Only thing the Yanks can control is how much THEY win, and not sure they can significantly improve on that right now.
Chip, Angelos hates the Yankees.
Repeat after me: Angelos hates the Yankees.
Again…
“What will they be playing and how do you know?”
Don’t understand the first question. Answer to the 2nd question is because the state of NJ requires grammar school students to take math.
dasaint – it’s offense we needed it all year, what other team is doing more with less in the backups department right now?
Stucky. If A-Rod were to suffer a hip problem again, then what? How many RBIs does he have?
dasaint – sorry, that post was half-cooked. it’s offense we haven’t needed all year, what other team is doing more with less in the backups department right now?
Irreverent Discourse July 29th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
oswalt has repeatedly said that he will not accept a trade to either new york team. why waste breath figuring out how to get him if he doesn’t want to pitch for you?
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I remember that. I remember when Oswalt said he did not want to pitch on the East Coast. However, very recently he has changed his mind about that. He’s now willing to pitch for an East Coast team.
As far as questions about makeup and his competitive nature, I would defer them to Andy Pettitte since Andy spent a couple years in Houston with him.
Andy would know if Roy Oswalt is a good fit for the Yankee family and he’d be able to talk to him about the joy of winning in NY versus the losing situation in Houston where it’s clear Oswalt wants out.
He just wants his 16 million option picked up for 2012.
I’m surprised the Phillies haven’t done that yet.
They should.
Rather give ABs to a young guy like Miranda or Curtis over bringing back an aging Matsui or “Giambi light” Dunn.
We don’t need a DH.. we can rotate it as a waste station for older players.
DaSaint,
I get that, I just laugh when he calls the Yankees a “rival” it’s like a nail calling a hammer its rival.
Bret,
Oswalt’s IP have been dropping, his ERA has been rising.
It’s moot anyway – sounds like he’s accepting a deal to the Phillies.
dasaint – if a plane were to land on longoria’s head while he was talking to david price, then what?
if, if, if… waste of time.
ID, I hear you, but if you’re right, we shouldn’t even be looking for a bat, right?
Showalter to the O’s
“Stucky. If A-Rod were to suffer a hip problem again, then what? How many RBIs does he have?”
I’m not certain I understand your point?
Ok, so why are the Yankees playing a night game when they have to travel to Tampa….Tampa’s playing today; why can’t the Yankees?
ID, that’s what GMs do. They don’t wait for then. They plan for IF.
That’s a great move for the Phillies if they’re getting 11 million and all they have to do is add 1 million to the buyout of Oswalt’s 2012 option.
“I wonder if Damon is available”
Their trade to acquire Peralta would suggest that he’s not.
“I wonder if Damon is available.”
I wouldn’t think so. DET isn’t totally dead yet, even though I don’t think they have a chance to win the Central.
Betsy –
Because every decision MLB makes is designed to hurt the Yankees.
Ok, let me try this:
Can someone answer the question as to why the Yankees are looking for utility/bench/DH help? After all, they have a 2 game lead, and are on pace for 104 wins.
Oswalt is not pitch like an Ace and hasn’t since 2005.
Between 2007-2009 his WAR is 11.3
By comparison over that time period,
CC’s is 20.6
Roy Halladay is 20.3
He is nowhere close to the level of those real Ace pitchers. Guarateeing him $16 million in 2012 is not a smart investment.
“Because every decision MLB makes is designed to hurt the Yankees.”
I’m glad to see someone admit this openly.
If they put Damon on waivers once they really fall out of it later this month, no way he would get all the way to us.
# Laura – I Bleed Blue July 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
“I wonder if Damon is available.”
I wouldn’t think so. DET isn’t totally dead yet, even though I don’t think they have a chance to win the Central.
Yeah it ain’t getting easier. Lester and Clay this weekend. They have to play us soon. Detroit is 16-32 on the road.
White Sox after the Red Sox.
LGY,
Are wins part of WAR?
He only had 8 wins in 2009.
He only has 6 wins in 2010.
Other than that, his career WHIP and career ERA are comparable with CC and Halladay.
Oswalt is definitely an ace if not the best number 2 in baseball.
“Guarateeing him $16 million in 2012 is not a smart investment”
Which is why Philly isn’t going to do it.
GTLU
Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Tex 1B
Alex DH
Cano 2B
Posada C
Swisher RF
Granderson CF
Pena 3B
Funky lineup I came up with today. Hope its a winner. Looks like a solid lineup to me.
Wasn’t Oswalt very critical after Alex’s confession about using steroids? Girardi has repeatedly said how much happier Alex seems to be the past few years. Why mess w/ the club house?
Stuckey, my question was really directed to you.
Stuckey-
“Only thing the Yanks can control is how much THEY win, and not sure they can significantly improve on that right now.”
I hope they can find a way. I want that gap widened if possible.
If it means needing to add someone more significant in some way then I guess I’m for it.
Will the Yankees see it that way ? Who knows.
Appreciate your over arching type of perspective but I am afraid I don’t share your reverence for the numbers, or take as much comfort in them.
I like extra added insurance if it can be had within reason.
And I think I understand the trade-offs involved in obtaining it.
We’ll see how it goes.
If Oswalt doesn’t want to go to the Phillies, then the Astros should tell him to clam up for the next 2 years because they aren’t trading him. I couldn’t agree more with Ken Davidoff’s article about this diva this morning……….
“Don’t understand the first question. Answer to the 2nd question is because the state of NJ requires grammar school students to take math.”
I’ll try again.
“I KNOW the Yankees will be playing in the off-season.”
What will they be playing and how do you know?
“Are wins part of WAR?”
No
Because the Rays are so good, I don’t know why people are worried that we’re “ONLY” 2 games ahead; what more do they want? Have the Rays had any injuries to speak of?
Stuckey, still waiting on an answer.
GB7:
“Sort of the “Mrs. Robinson” of politics, huh?”
Works for me, only I’m older than she, so it wouldn’t be the ‘older woman’ thing anymore.
“Plastics, Benjamin. Plastics.”
Jeter-SS
Swisher-RF
Tex-1B
ARod-3B
Cano-2B
Posada-DH
Granderson-CF
Cervelli-C
Gardner-LF
Being sarcastic Chip? Sheesh……
Baseball reference has comps for Oswalt.
Similar pitchers
1)Halladay
2)Santana
3)Sabathia
Similar pitchers through 31
1)Halladay
2)Hudson
3)Mussina
http://www.baseball-reference......ro01.shtml
GTLU:
SS Jeet
RF Swish
1B Tex
3B Mr 600
2B Robbie
DH Po
CF Grandy
C Cisco
LF GGBG
thanks Doreen
lets see how the Indians do against a pitcher they haven’t seen before
maybe for Kenny’s sake, the Yankees can silence the drum early.
Nick in SF….Many will be playing golf in the Off-season……..Murphydog, how you doing ????
GTLU-
Jeter-ss
Swish-rf
Tex-1b
Arod-3b
Cano-2b
Posada-c
Granderson-cf
Miranda-DH
Gardner-lf
Ok, nevermind about Oswalt. In any case, the Jays are nuts and I’m still not interested in Dunn. With the ridiculous asking prices for these players, I don’t expect Cash to make any deals.
“Can someone answer the question as to why the Yankees are looking for utility/bench/DH help? After all, they have a 2 game lead, and are on pace for 104 wins.”
Of course you look. I’m not advocating otherwise. That’s Cashman’s job.
And I suspect of some option comes along to bolster the bench or the middle of the pen that costs the Yankees little in terms of trade return/salary, they might likely exercise it.
i don’t think it will make any difference, but again, if there is no downside, you do it.
My point was I suspect Cashman is prioritizing potential moves that would impact the postseason. That means a bat that will crack the postseason line-up (DH) and/or an arm that would likely actually come outta the pen in a close game.
upstate kate July 29th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Wasn’t Oswalt very critical after Alex’s confession about using steroids? Girardi has repeatedly said how much happier Alex seems to be the past few years. Why mess w/ the club house?
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Yup!
Oswalt will never pitch for the Yankees…
“Appreciate your over arching type of perspective but I am afraid I don’t share your reverence for the numbers, or take as much comfort in them.”
Well, the “numbers” are secondary. The premise (which I’ve been arguing with utter confidence since the start of LAST season and have been proven correct through today) is that the Yankees are currently the most talented, deep team in the majors.
The pace is a PRODUCT of this, which is why I don’t see it changing.
I’d argue that anything the Yankees are very likely to do in terms of trades is not going to be solely responsible for creating the separation you are looking for.
That could and might happen either way, but my point was, you’d have to really pull off a blockbuster and have it work out Sabathia/Milwaukee style in order for the Yanks to INCREASE their 103-4 win pace.
THAT’s how you look at it. Nothing the Yankees add or do will change how many games the Rays will win this year.
You’re asking that the Yankees makes moves to significantly upgrade their win pace.
Given what it currently is, not sure that’s realistic.
Again, stop looking at the current GB column and stop looking at what you perceive to be the balance of talent between the two teams. That’s a misleading way of looking at the standings, and remainder of the season.
Only thing the Yanks can control is how much THEY win, and not sure they can significantly improve on that right now.
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Stuckey:
No GM makes a move to maintain the status-quo, unless of course they feel the status-quo is fragile. They make the move in the hope that it improves the team. Therefore, using some form of logic, it’s reasonable to conclude that a move by Cashman to improve the bench, infield, or DH spots, is a move that’s being made because its believed that it add’s or maintains an offensive balance for the remainder of the season. Can’t change the part of the season that’s past – just the balance. Makes sense, no?
R.A. Dickey is a beast.
Pat M:
Doing well, my friend. Busy at the office (thank god). Gotta keep Mrs. Dog in the style to which she is accustomed
“What will they be playing and how do you know?”
Ah…
Golf, fishing and hunting, because that’s pretty much what ALL major league baseball players do in the off-season.
Except for former ML Paul O’Neil, who apparently was a rare breed who played tennis.
Sorry, buddy, didn’t see your post, but let me add this. While I understand your point about the post-season, my point is that you can’t take the post season for granted, and the moves are being made to ensure that you make it to the post season, ergo, you need to shore up any perceived deficiencies between now and then.
That whole “cougar” thing is solely for the younger guys.
Then you reach a certain age where sleeping with older women just really loses its appeal.
Then they’re no longer cougars.
More like turtles.
The following people have submitted lineups for GTLU so far. If I’ve missed your name, let me know.
Erin
yankswin27
bisonthrow
Unknown
Warning Track Power
upstate kate
Patrick from CT
my line-up is based on the educated guess that Cervelli has recovered from the hit by pitch enough to catch again.
also based on the fact that Posada is healthy enough to hit and that Joe will give ARod another chance to reach 600, while playing 3rd(instead of in the DH spot)
Tom Krasovic:
• I doubt reliever Joba Chamberlain will be with the Yankees past next year’s trade deadline.
After talking trade with the Diamondbacks this month, the Yankees reportedly decided they weren’t willing to deal Chamberlain as part of a bid for pitcher Dan Haren. While those reports may have been true, they were news to the Diamondbacks, who had gleaned that the Yankees were, in fact, open to a deal built around Chamberlain, pitcher Ivan Nova and two prospects.
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I believe it was they would include Joba but the Dbacks would have to pick up some money. The Yankees wouldn’t do both – include Joba and pay all of Haren’s remaining salary.
“it’s reasonable to conclude that a move by Cashman to improve the bench, infield, or DH spots, is a move that’s being made because its believed that it add’s or maintains an offensive balance for the remainder of the season. Can’t change the part of the season that’s past – just the balance. Makes sense, no?”
My answer remains – I believe Cashman is focused on the postseason, which as a bi-product, accomplishes “improvement” in the regular season.
We can get caught up in the minutiae if you like, but my simple point is Cashman is likely focused on moves that will make a postseason impact, of which a back-up infielder is not one, unless he’s a basepath speed demon that could serve as a PS pinchrunner.
I’m betting that Posada catches, especially with 3 games coming up on the Tampa turf. Gives Cervelli a night off before tackling that turf again.
ss jeter
rf swisher
1b tex
3b arod
2b cano
dh posada
cf granderson
c cervelli
lf gardner
Thanks
Stuckey-
“The premise (which I’ve been arguing with utter confidence since the start of LAST season and have been proven correct through today) is that the Yankees are currently the most talented, deep team in the majors.
The pace is a PRODUCT of this, which is why I don’t see it changing.”
But I am saying that I would like to see that pace improved upon.
And for the Yankees to be made stronger than they already are if it is possible within reason to do so.
Will it happen ? Only Cash knows the answer to that.
I think we have already highlighted the differences in our 2 POV’s earlier.
We both think the Yankees are a very strong team.
You are comfortable with the pace they are on, and feel that it is sufficient. I am not quite there. I want a bit more insurance.
Wave Your Hat July 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
?WYH – refuding is not a word…?
It isn?t? I thought I heard someone use a form of it on TV?
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Thank TV (and the people ON it) for ruining the most wonderful language on the planet. Just because you hear something on TV does NOT make it so. Paul O’Neil said on the YES network that someone else was being ‘fancy’ because they had put a ‘t’ on the end of the word ‘depo’…….oh dear, oh dear.
I just heard someone in Government say ‘we are hoping to INCENT people………’ Let’s just go right ahead and be lazy, because we can’t be bothered to say, ‘offer people incentives……..’ Talk about ‘verbing nouns and nouning verbs’!
As for ‘refudiate’……….
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2463
“While I understand your point about the post-season, my point is that you can’t take the post season for granted”
At this stage, you CAN take for granted the Yankees make the post-season.
Unless they go on a major swoon (and no move we’re talking about will impact that), they are virtually guaranteed a post-season spot.
.500 the remaining 62 games gets them to 95 wins, and regardless of how well the teams looking to eclipse 95 wins have to play (which is considerable), this has historically guaranteed a PS berth in the AL.
If we’re genuinely concerned about the current NY Yankees going .500 the remaining 62 games, we’re having the wrong conversation as to how to prevent that.
12:59pm: Though they’re on his no-trade list, the Red Sox asked the Brewers about Trevor Hoffman, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
- MLB TR
“But I am saying that I would like to see that pace improved upon.”
Understood. But aside from perhaps Adam Dunn making mincemeat of the second deck for the last 2 months, not sure I see any move out there to accomplish that (and that would be a 1 or 2 at best), considering how upper-end a 104 win pace already is.
They had a graphic last night. The Yanks record after 100 games is the third best it’s been in either 40 years or all-time. I think only ‘98 and ‘61 are better.
I don’t think some fans realize exactly how good this team is actually playing.
What happened to Price in this inning? A single, FC out at 2B, balk, rbi single by Jackson. A HBP. 2 guys on for Erica’s fella.
Pitching change. I’m hoping they lose this game. The manager falling for the ol’ Price is better than Choate any day of the week trick.
Career WAR for Oswalt
2001 3.9
2002 6.2
2003 3.0
2004 4.0
2005 5.3
2006 4.7
2007 5.6
2008 3.7
2009 3.1
2010 3.0
10 Seasons 42.5
2001 2.7
2002 2.8
2003 3.8
2004 3.3
2005 1.8
2006 4.7
2007 6.8
2008 2.3
2008 4.8
2009 4.3
2010 2.7
Career WAR for Sabathia
10 Seasons 40
Ross July 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Wave Your Hat July 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
?WYH – refuding is not a word…?
It isn?t? I thought I heard someone use a form of it on TV?
…………………………..
Thank TV (and the people ON it) for ruining the most wonderful language on the planet. Just because you hear something on TV does NOT make it so. Paul O’Neil said on the YES network that someone else was being ‘fancy’ because they had put a ‘t’ on the end of the word ‘depo’…….oh dear, oh dear.
I just heard someone in Government say ‘we are hoping to INCENT people………’ Let’s just go right ahead and be lazy, because we can’t be bothered to say, ‘offer people incentives……..’ Talk about ‘verbing nouns and nouning verbs’!
As for ‘refudiate’……….
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2463
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Nobody cares, Mrs. McGillicuddy.
Moseley was a 1st round pick (34th overall). Why was he a first rounder? His stuff (as it stands now) doesn’t look like someone who’d project to the front end of a rotation. Did he throw harder before the surgery? Was he a great pitcher out of high school?
Stuckey-
Whatever helps create that extra separation I am for it.
If it is Dunn, and they are willing to get him great. It’s their call and their money. And it’s their calculation. I hope they get it right whatever they chose to do.
If they stand pat or go smaller, we will just have to hope that your projection is the correct one and that they get the pennant with what they have.
Guess we’re fixin’ to see pretty soon.
what i don’t understand is why the rays aren’t in on some big time players? they aren’t going to have crawford next year, maybe they lose their first baseman as well.
i thought this was an ‘all-in’ year for them. they supposedly have a deep farm, it’s the money i guess. they should do something. i don’t worry about boston, they’re probably cooked. i do worry about the rays getting hot.
that being said, a clicking tex and granderson makes a huge difference on this team.
With the Tigers fading, Cashman kisses and makes up with Johnny Damon.
Cheaper than Dunn. Can play the outfield (better than Dunn, I think). Hits LHP. Short porch. Knows the clubhouse. Fan favorite.
It’s so obvious…
Stuckey,……I think that the issue is how the team is constructed for October……I think they need an another arm ( lefty ) for the pen and a left hand hitter with some pop….Otherwise the club looks real good
Poor Porcello. He’s pitching great, only 91 pitches through 6.1 IP. But the Tigers are rubbish. They’ve left men on base the whole series. Serious squandering. Today alone. 9 men LOB.
GB….Doby Gillis ????
Ah, GB7 -
I do care about how language is being used these days.
I sent an email to the lady who was taking tennis lessons with me. I received an email back from her, which was indeed nice, however, it was in text-speak. I had to decipher all the spelling shortcuts (not typos, not misspellings, but what passes for written English these days).
I just no longer talk about one of my pet peeves on this forum anymore.
Fan Graph WAR last 5 years
Oswalt 23.1
Sabathia 30.2
Calm down GB7, I was nudging ID to get the joke from earlier this morning.
I think I know that “to refude” is not a verb, I wasn’t raised in Alaska you know.
Pat M. July 29th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
GB….Doby Gillis ????
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Nah!!!! My 5th grade teacher
or, Connie Mack’s mother.
Wave Your Hat July 29th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Calm down GB7, I was nudging ID to get the joke from earlier this morning.
I think I know that “to refude” is not a verb, I wasn’t raised in Alaska you know.
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That was to Ross High Horse.
Bret,
What does it matter what Oswalt did 5, 6, 7, etc. years ago?
All that matters is who he is now and what he will do in the future.
CC and Halladay are Aces because of the combination of their low ERA and the huge number of innings they pitch.
Oswalt is not that guy anymore and has not been for some time now.
And this “decline” has happened in one of the worst divisions in baseball and with a pitcher as part of the lineup he is facing.
And Bret,
Where are you getting those numbers from. They are not correct.
“that being said, a clicking tex and granderson makes a huge difference on this team”
The beauty of this team is that at times almost anyone at some point in time can help to carry the team or pick other guys up. Jeter has hit at .236 since 6/1. Cano at .258 since 6/11. Gardner .252 since 6/15. But just as they were carrying the club earlier in the year when Granderson and Teixeira were struggling, they are now lagging a bit and being picked up by guys who struggled earlier.
GTL (minus the “U” in respect to tonight’s Season 2 opener of “Jersey Shore”)
SS-Jeter
RF-Swisher
1B-Tex
DH-ARod
2B-Cano
CF-Granderson
C-Cervelli
RF-Curtis
LF-Gardner
Thanks!
“Stuckey,……I think that the issue is how the team is constructed for October……I think they need an another arm ( lefty ) for the pen and a left hand hitter with some pop….Otherwise the club looks real good”
Agreed.
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Teixeira
DH Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
LF Gardner
3B Pena
Thanks Doreen!
if the ‘Stros are kicking in that kinda cash the Singleton better be in the deal cuz Happ is not enough to headline a deal for Oswalt salary dump or no salary dump…
On another note Jack Z has brass ones…..The Giants called up and said they were interested in Aardsma and Jack offered Aardsma with Jose Lopez for Pablo Sandoval! I wouldn’t even consider that in a fantasy trade! imagine…