Hughes feeling good leading into tonight’s start
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 30, 2010 
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I’m not a big fast food guy, but there’s a Chick-Fil-A in Tampa and I quite simply cannot help myself. I would have gladly traded my chicken sandwich for four more hours of sleep, but as a consolation prize, it wasn’t bad.
It’s a nice day here in Tampa. Hot, but that’s to be expected, and it won’t matter when the Yankees step into the dome.
Phil Hughes is literally at home here. He grew up in Southern California, but he has a place in Tampa. His past few starts have been a little uneven, but he said he’s felt good about the work that’s led into tonight’s start.
“I’m getting there,” he said. “I had a couple of really good bullpens that I was happy about. I felt like I made progress. It’s just a matter of translating that to games, but I do feel better about what I’ve been doing the last few days or so with how I’ve been feeling and trying to get back to that feeling I had early in the year.”
Hughes said he can’t explain it, but he has pitched much better on the road (2.36 ERA, no home runs) than in New York (5.21 ERA, 15 home runs). Ultimately, he said much of his success or failure comes down to arm slot. When he stays on top of the ball, he can locate it.
“I throw majority fastballs, so for me it’s just establishing that pitch and being aggressive with it,” he said. “Getting ahead in counts and putting guys away. That’s kind of been my biggest problem, I haven’t been able to put guys away lately.”
Obviously not a HUGE deal but any way to find out why Hughes did not fly ahead of the team rather than fly with them last night to get in so early on his pitch day. I saw him in the congratulatory handshake line after the game and thought for sure he would have already gone to Tampa especially since he has a home there.
As a Southwest Florida resident myself, it’s hard to go wrong with Chick-Fil-A!
I think that Edwin Jackson is going to actually stay with the White Sox.
With Peavy out for the year they need another arm much more than they need another slugger.
I’ll say it again – I don’t get the love affair with Edwin Jackson.
The only time in his career he has actually been a decent pitcher was the first half of last season. Arizona gave up too much to get him from Detroit and now the White Sox have given up too much to get him from Arizona.
still no word on if Park was DFA’d
it would make sense to do it now, get a fresh (and actually good) pitcher in the bullpen for the start of this series.
Huuuughes!!!
White Sox get Edwin Jackson from the Dbacks for Dan Hudson and David Holmberg. Rumor has it he’ll be flipped to the Nats for Dunn.
I’ve never had Chick-Fil-A but I’ve heard good things.
Trisha,
Esteemed lohud poster CB after Tex signed with the Yankees.
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# CB December 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Lost in Tex-is
Hat tip to you. You most definitely posted this before any of the breaking reports.
Nicely done.
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Can you please get off Lost’s back?
Wouldn’t the Nats rather have had Dan Hudson over Edwin Jackson?
Speaking of insiders – wonder what happened to Bobcat…?
“I’ll say it again – I don’t get the love affair with Edwin Jackson.”
Doesn’t he have a questionable work ethic? Wasn’t that why both TB and DET moved him?
Blake….Like many, I’m infacuated with Dunn’s power and his ability to get on base……His rental price is high, as I can’t imagine this being another David Justice steal……Bergman is intriging, for different reasons….He’s a better pure hitter and can play the outfield as well as 1st……The attached option could be an issue……..GB, who comfortable are you with a rook just called up to handle the pennant race heat of Agust & September ???? I think Cashman wants some expierence in that role……We’ll see…..Bottom line, Tricia’s Nationals are being sold off slowly…..It was a good trade for Rizzo and the Senators
Detroit moved him because he was making a lot of money and the D’backs were dumb enough to offer up Max Scherzer for him
TB traded him because he was due to make a lot of money and the Rays had plenty of other young pitchers so they didn’t need him.
Laura – I wouldn’t know about Jackson’s work ethic, but 4 teams in 2 years is a red flag to me. Something’s going on there. Especially for a starting pitcher who’s had at least decent results.
LGY – sorry I’d have to read a lot more than that to believe he has insider information.
The W.Sox should just keep Jackson. He has an optoion for next year. If not that is a lot to give up for the 2 month rental of Dunn.
“…..Bottom line, Tricia’s Nationals are being sold off slowly”
It’s killing my soul.
Trisha,
Even if he doesn’t, is he hurting anyone?
You seem to be trying to run him off the blog and I don’t really get why…
Is it just me, or do Middle Americans seem overly sensitive to Royals rumors?
KCRoyalman
Won’t happen Soria already Nixed it RT @NYYrumors: #Yankees talking #Royals Soria. Prospects not Montero maybe Banuelos. @mlbtraderumors
6 minutes ago via TweetDeck
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B_Shoe
Laughable RT @NYYrumors Source telling me #Yankees will take Guillen contract with Greinke. #Royals can pick Nova, McAllister, B-levels
12 minutes ago via web
doublestix
shut up, @nyyrumors. Zack is not being traded for a bunch of garbage B prospects.
15 minutes ago via web from Lincoln, NE
KCRoyalman
Guillen to yanks this is new RT @NYYrumors: #Royals Greinke sick of losing according to source. #Royals Guillen expects to be a #Yankee.
23 minutes ago via TweetDeck
“Laura – I wouldn’t know about Jackson’s work ethic, but 4 teams in 2 years is a red flag to me. Something’s going on there. Especially for a starting pitcher who’s had at least decent results.”
I remember reading somewhere that he was a big party guy and wasn’t taking pitching seriously.
Bret-
You are giving me a headache. I am losing the ability to differentiate fantasy from reality.
Edwin Jackson couldn’t cut it on Erica’s Avengers
“Is it just me, or do Middle Americans seem overly sensitive to Royals rumors?”
Are you under the impression this is clever or entertaining on any level?
Bret, I didn’t realize that people were taking your posts seriously. That’s why I made my pretzel guy comment. My bad.
Side note: I have decided to go to the beach after work.
I think my cold needs some fresh air
“Are you under the impression this is clever or entertaining on any level?”
stuckey, it may be a matter of taste, but a few of us are rather enjoying Bret’s phony rumors.
Erica in NY July 30th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Bret-
You are giving me a headache. I am losing the ability to differentiate fantasy from reality.
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Evidence has been found that Twitter induces hallucinogenic episodes.
The studies are still in their infancy but the evidence is nevertheless compelling.
Do not drink and Tweet.
Hughes: “Getting ahead in counts and putting guys away. That’s kind of been my biggest problem, I haven’t been able to put guys away lately.”
Have to give Phil credit for being so self aware, unlike Joba who just now has figured out that he’s been stinking lately.
a few of us? count me out of that. i think it’s pretty stupid.
“stuckey, it may be a matter of taste,”
Indeed…
stuckey99 July 30th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
?Is it just me, or do Middle Americans seem overly sensitive to Royals rumors??
Are you under the impression this is clever or entertaining on any level?
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I find the number of people who whine about people’s posts rather than ignore them fascinating.
Erin July 30th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I’ve never had Chick-Fil-A but I’ve heard good things.
You’ve definitely heard right
Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
a few of us? count me out of that. i think it?s pretty stupid.
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Me too
Wow, I opened GTLU at 12:15 and no one has a lineup yet????
Jim (NJ)
Any clue as to why the Yankees apparently believe that aquiring a DH-type is their biggest need when they are have no trouble scoring runs but have plenty of trouble pitching the 7th and 8th innings?
Jayson Stark (1:24 PM)
They’re the Yankees, man. They never have enough bats. They never have enough depth. They never have enough anything. And the bullpen market is brutal. They’re in on every decent arm you’ve heard is out there. But it wouldn’t shock me if they made a bullpen deal in August instead of by tomorrow. Check the costs in those August bullpen deals, compared to the July deals. Amazing how much cheaper you can get what you need after the deadline. Also, the Yankees are monitoring Kerry Wood, and he’s not going to be a July deal.
Pat M. July 30th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Blake….Like many, I’m infacuated with Dunn’s power and his ability to get on base……His rental price is high, as I can’t imagine this being another David Justice steal……Bergman is intriging, for different reasons….He’s a better pure hitter and can play the outfield as well as 1st……The attached option could be an issue……..GB, who comfortable are you with a rook just called up to handle the pennant race heat of Agust & September ???? I think Cashman wants some expierence in that role……We’ll see…..Bottom line, Tricia’s Nationals are being sold off slowly…..It was a good trade for Rizzo and the Senators
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Pat, Chad Tracy had some good numbers with Arizona for a couple of years. Even over the last couple of years when he was hurt, he put up decent numbers. Left handed power, plays all 4 corners. As far as trusting rookies in the post season, not really unless they had a full season of success during the year.
Spents sometime in the Orlado area the last few weeks. Wish the Yankees would’ve played the Rays at that time and I would’ve caught a game. Anyways I hate Chick-fil-a, but huge props to Popeye’s and Checkers. Checkers is one cool fast food restaurant. I wish there was one up North where I’m at. Can’t wait for the game tonight.
“I find the number of people who whine about people’s posts rather than ignore them fascinating.”
I was asking a question. I’m quite earnestly interested if Bret regards himself clever or entertaining.
I’d find the answer, as you say, fascinating.
Doreen-I think I missed your announcement!
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
DH Miranda
LF Gardner
Thanks
All attention, even negative attention, is good attention.
Behold the birth of Twitter.
edwin jackson to the whitesox for dan hudson and some other prospect
GTLU
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Miranda DH
Gardner LF
If Jeter has a solid serious the Yankees are in Business.
Kerry Wood: because the panic Joba Chamberlain induces just isn’t potent enough, goshdarnit.
LGY – nah. I question everything, not just what Lost puts out there.
Ask the “esteemed” posters here if I haven’t at one time or another absolutely disbelieved their takes on current events. It’s in my nature to not take anything as a given until I see it with some kind of official imprimatur. I’ve just seen “sure bets” turn out to be nothing but hog wash too many times.
In any event, Bret is right. This is soft entertainment, people are here to have fun, and there really is no need for me or anyone else to come crashing down and treating the information that people put out as if their being on the money is a matter of life or death.
Definitely my bad.
Ken_Rosenthal
Berkman could be in play for #Yankees under right circumstances. Tight with Pettitte. Likely waive no-trade for NYY. Depends on price. #MLB
1 minute ago via web
Retweeted by you and 2 others
I like the line up I posted but I can see Girardi going with a lineup that consists of Gardner leading off and maybe moving Swisher way down in the order to break up the lefties.
berkman… good god. IS IT SUNDAY YET?
so tired of the lies.
you should be banned for passing on rosenthal rumors.
GTLU:
Jeter – SS
Swisher – RF
Tex – 1b
Alex – 3b
Cano – 2b
Posada – DH
Granderson – CF
Cervelli – C
Gardner – LF
“All attention, even negative attention, is good attention.
Behold the birth of Twitter.”
I don’t understand if this is an admission or commentary.
While I am not in any way suggesting Edwin Jackson is in their league, Tex, Cliff Lee and CC were also on 3 teams in 3 years.
Doreen
I didn’t see your GTLU, I need to think about it for a few minutes…last one before your vacation, right?
stuckey – clearly he has lost his mind. why he thinks anyone would believe a rumor from an unconfirmed twitter account is beyond me.
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Tex
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
DH Miranda
LF GGBG
Ken Rosenthal’s twitter:
Berkman could be in play for #Yankees under right circumstances. Tight with Pettitte. Likely waive no-trade for NYY. Depends on price. #MLB
3 minutes ago via web
Wouldn’t mind getting Berkman if the Yankees can’t get Dunn.
Would be more enthused if the Astros would also include Matt Lindstrom
For those at their limit…..
1 Day, 4 Hours, and 17 Minutes until the Trade Deadline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Berkman could be in play for #Yankees under right circumstances. Tight with Pettitte. Likely waive no-trade for NYY. Depends on price. #MLB”
How is this nonsense any different from what Bret is posting? The Yankees aren’t interested in Berkman. What for? Last I checked, we have a 1B, who is better than Berkman. Swisher can play 1B and so can Miranda. Is he supposed to be our DH? Don’t we need that spot open for Posada and the other aging players? Shouldn’t we be focusing on bullpen help instead?
These writers are making up this stuff because it’s their job. If Bret wants to poke fun at it, I don’t see what’s wrong with that. If you don’t find it funny, skip his posts.
Anybody see a pattern: Jeter, Arod, Hughes, Sado et. al….all live in Florida….hmmm wonder if the prohibitive NY state income tax etc has something to do with it? The rich avoiding their fair share.
Laura,
This is life or death here.
GET SERIOUS now!
upstate kate -
I’m going to go back and check to make sure the announcement “took,” because it’s odd that no one saw it. (I posted and then ran out on an errand – got my tire fixed.)
Lineups can be submitted until 3:30 or until an official one is posted so you have time.
Yes, last one before vacation.
i think i’ll check out chick-fil-a after that Sunday game… oh .. wait… that’s not going to work. hahahaha (only funny if you live in the south)
I’ve always been rather unimpressed by Chick-Fil-A. I’d rank it under Chipotle in terms of fast-food satisfaction.
@ UnKnown,
There’s a Checkers in Paterson, NJ, but I can’t remember seeing one anywhere else in the northeast.
“Anybody see a pattern: Jeter, Arod, Hughes, Sado et. al….all live in Florida….hmmm wonder if the prohibitive NY state income tax etc has something to do with it? The rich avoiding their fair share.”
Dude, you are way off base. These guys live in Florida because the weather is nice 90% of the time. Most tennis players live there as well.
Chick-fil-a is on the West Coast as well.
I think it started there.
Bojangles on the other hand…
Jeter
Tex
A-Rod
Ca-yes
Posada
Swisher
Grandy
Cervelli
Gardner
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Marcus “I’ll never play 3rd again” Thames DH
GGBG LF
Thansk Doreen!
“Is he supposed to be our DH? Don’t we need that spot open for Posada and the other aging players?”
Laura, all the position players are going to play their positions in the postseason, including Posada. Assuming relative health, and all the off-days, it’s all hands on deck and manning their stations for the 11-19 postseason games necessary.
It makes a certain amount of sense the Yanks could be looking for DH options FOR the postseason.
Berkman would probably depend on how much money the Stros would throw in.
He is like Matsui though struggling vs LHP this year so that is an issue.
Wouldn’t be a bad option at DH if Dunn doesn’t work out depending on the prospects and how much the Yanks will have to pay him.
He has a $2 million buyout for next year, so keep that in mind if finances come up.
“There’s a Checkers in Paterson, NJ, but I can’t remember seeing one anywhere else in the northeast.”
There used to be a Checkers near me here in Chicago, but it closed down. I haven’t seen another one in IL either.
Bret,
I support your endeavor. I was the fake Hank Steinbrenner Twitter “Hankstein” last year until Hank and the Yankees shut me down. At one point I had almost 2 thousand followers. I tried to petition Twitter to let me re-open it and I would clearly state I wasn’t Hank, but they wouldn’t let me do it.
My version of Hank liked making “Wang” jokes, was really into Adam Lambert and liked to stay at the Stadium Motor Inn whenever he was in town.
I think it was fairly accurate. I think it hit a little too close to home for Hank.
I have never been to Chick-fil-a but if I am ever south again, I will definitely go there.
I hear nothing but great things
“It makes a certain amount of sense the Yanks could be looking for DH options FOR the postseason.”
Perhaps, but I’d rather pick up an arm than some aging 1B/DH guy.
Doreen:
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1b
ARod 3b
Robbie 2b
Jorge DH
Granderson CF
Cervelli C
Gardner LF
I think there’s a Checkers in the Bronx in Co-op city. I’ve seen it from the highway driving past it.
GTLU:
SS Jeet
RF Swish
1B Tex
3B Mr 600
2B Robbie
C Po
CF Grandy
DH Miranda
LF GGBG
going w/ the somewhat standard line up
thanks and have a great vacation Doreen
G. Love July 30th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Bret,
I support your endeavor. I was the fake Hank Steinbrenner Twitter “Hankstein” last year until Hank and the Yankees shut me down. At one point I had almost 2 thousand followers. I tried to petition Twitter to let me re-open it and I would clearly state I wasn’t Hank, but they wouldn’t let me do it.
My version of Hank liked making “Wang” jokes, was really into Adam Lambert and liked to stay at the Stadium Motor Inn whenever he was in town.
I think it was fairly accurate. I think it hit a little too close to home for Hank.
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ROFLMAO!!!
GTLU- Tampa Takeout
Jeter SS
Grandy CF
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Cano 2B
Jorge C
Swish RF
JuanGoneinTampa DH
Gardy LF
Young Master Hughes Returns….7ip/ 3hits/ 9 ks and his 13th W……
“There’s a Checkers in Paterson, NJ, but I can’t remember seeing one anywhere else in the northeast.”
There are 20 within a 45 mile radius of my NJ zipcode.
Google is our friend..
i think the whole closing on sundays thing is silly but what do i know.
i think the fastfood is all the same other than five guys / in-out-burger and if you don’t eat red meat you are missing out there as well.
so do we really need anything but a 7th inning / 8th inning (cheap) guy or lefty??? i’m still thinking yanks will make a minor move before 4pm saturday, that’s all
stuckey99 July 30th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
?Is he supposed to be our DH? Don’t we need that spot open for Posada and the other aging players??
Laura, all the position players are going to play their positions in the postseason, including Posada. Assuming relative health, and all the off-days, it?s all hands on deck and manning their stations for the 11-19 postseason games necessary.
It makes a certain amount of sense the Yanks could be looking for DH options FOR the postseason.
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Again you make the assumption that Jorge can regularly catch during the post season. That seems as unlikely as the Rangers counting on Vlad to be a regular RF in the playoffs.
I did go back and check. My post didn’t “take.” I apologize. I had wanted to make sure I opened the game before I went out, but I didn’t check to make sure the post went through, and of course it did not. I don’t know why; I posted it the same exact way I’ve done 74 times before!!
G. Love,
Bret isn’t much for answering direct, honest questions, so maybe you will.
The point of such an endeavor is what?
I remember a few years ago there were people promoting Checkers in Times Square. Giving out free chicken sandwiches and fries. It was good.
SS JETE
RF SWISH
1B TEX
3B AROD
2B ROBBIE
DH JORGE
CF GRANDERSON
C FRISCO
LF GARDNER
There is a checkers in Washington DC, too (used to drive by on our way back to school many, many years ago)
Craig (Lindsay, ON)
I understand that the Royals are not trading Soria, but why would anybody want him anyway. If you have a limited no-trade and you choose the Yankees as one team to block out of a possible 6 what does that say about your desire to win and ability to handle pressure and the big scene. That raises red flags for me. Why anybody would decline the opportunity to play for a team that not only gives you the best chance to play for a World Series every year but also pay you the most is insane!
Jayson Stark (1:49 PM)
I hear what you’re saying. But consider a couple of things: 1) New York isn’t for everybody. I know that’s a shocker, but it’s true. And 2) even if you don’t feel that way, it’s always good business to put the Yankees on your no-trade list, because they’re the team most likely to throw a few bucks your way to change your mind. So don’t read too much into any contract clause, OK? If you’ve watched Soria pitch, do you really get the feeling he’s afraid to face any hitter or any lineup? I sure don’t. But the Royals aren’t trading him to the Yankees or anyone else. His contract is way too favorable to the club for too many years.
stuckey,
Knew I should have Googled as soon as I posted that. I haven’t lived in Northern NJ since 1994, but I go back and visit my grandmother as often as possible. I always pass the afore-mentioned Checkers. My not having seen one otherwise, however, is still valid.
Berkman is owed about $5mil for the rest of this season w/option for next season @ $15mil with a $2mil buyout..
really can’t play much OF anymore as his knees are banged up and he had surgery on his right knee this past offseason..
I was liking Berkman in the offseason as a replacement for Matsui so I think Lance would be a very good get.
75% of the comments in here are either total BS or meaningless blather and I readily admit that my comments mostly fall into that majority.
But BS and drivel are harmless. At worst they can be boring and at best you may have a chuckle.
But mean-spirited attacks aimed at strangers? Petty and boorish. IMO they show more about the person who wrote them than the person they’re directed at.
G. Love,
You are a genius!
You have quite a knack for entertainment.
I bet your friends say you could do stand-up comedy.
Just saw a free screening of The Other Guys last night. Movie was hilarious. However, the scene were Jeter was dressed as a bum was CUT!!!! I remember seeing the picture posted here last year. I was very disappointed.
Chip,
If any of these games were significant or it was the postseason Posada would be playing.
You are reading way too far into the Yankees resting their 38 year old catcher when they have an 8 game cushion to make the playoffs.
They have no real compelling reason to push Posada.
stuckey,
It was just fun. I did the fake Hank thing because it made me laugh. I’m glad they shut it down though because it got addictive. I was constantly thinking of things Hank would say and posting them.
What Bret’s doing is actually funny to me since he’s exposing and mocking how ridiculous the baseball media is at this time of year with these stupid rumors.
I think Rosenthal is taking some of Bret’s tweets and posting them as actual news.
The Yankees should go one of two ways with their lineup:
1. Bring in a DH – Dunn, Guillen, Berkman – so that when Jorge does miss time there is less of a drop in the offense
2. Bring in a C – Chris Snyder would be my first option – and move Jorge to a more full-time DH role.
And, of course, relief help would be nice too.
soria’s no trade-clause is the smartest clause ever. the teams (supposedly) on it are all the big market teams. they are there as chips to for a trade-sign/extension. i didn’t check but i believe he’s a boras guy. this isn’t mike hampton and ny’s “poor schools” (so he goes to colorado and his kids are in the district next to columbine).
There are chick-fil-a’s in New Jersey (Lawrenceville and Cherry Hill come to mind) and there are Checkers on Long Island!
“Again you make the assumption that Jorge can regularly catch during the post season. That seems as unlikely as the Rangers counting on Vlad to be a regular RF in the playoffs.”
I don’t understand what criteria you’re basing your speculative conclusions on.
We do both agree that the threshold for Jorge Posada playing catcher in the regular season is vastly different that it would be for the postseason, don’t we?
Yankees enjoy a fairly substantial cushion to make the postseason, they have the luxury of being very delicate with Posada and the criteria for him being “able” to catch is very low.
What might keep him at DH and even on the bench now will likely not be the same criteria that dictates how and when we plays in the PS, with off days after every 2 games and longer breaks in-between series.
We do agree on that logic, yes?
If indeed Cashman is with the team in St. Pete and has a deal in mind requiring the thoughts or approval of Hal Steinbrenner, he’s only got a quick ride over a bridge to Steinbrenner Field in Tampa to meet up with the young “Boss”.
GB, I remember when Tracy came up with the LA Dodgers….I just had a brain cramp….He’d be an upgrade to what’s in the dugout now
Doreen,
Have a wonderful vacation.
Here is my line-up
Derek SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Robbie 2B
Jorge C
Granderson CF
Miranda DH
Gardner LF
Thanks
G. Love July 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
It was just fun. I did the fake Hank thing because it made me laugh. I’m glad they shut it down though because it got addictive. I was constantly thinking of things Hank would say and posting them.
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Edwin Jackson ( our boy GB ) has been moved to the White Sox
Important question:
When does the 10 day registration period thing end and the prizes get given out?
“Dude, you are way off base. These guys live in Florida because the weather is nice 90% of the time. Most tennis players live there as well.”
Dudette, Jeter saved 18.9 million (during his 10 year contract) by living in Florida rather than establish residence in NY. The weather is just the icing on the cake.
I’m not against getting Berkman provided we don’t give up too much. Maybe a pennant race and short RF porch wakes his bat up.
Erica, Chad told me something like august 2nd if I remember correctly.
LGY July 30th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Chip,
If any of these games were significant or it was the postseason Posada would be playing.
You are reading way too far into the Yankees resting their 38 year old catcher when they have an 8 game cushion to make the playoffs.
They have no real compelling reason to push Posada.
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With 2 months left in the season and only a 2 game lead – every game is significant.
You can put on the blinders all you want but over the last three seasons Jorge’s body has shown it cannot be trusted to hold up to catching on a daily basis.
He’s right now in the same class as Vlad and Matsui – good hitters who can no longer play the field regularly.
All of this talk about Berkman and Dunn just brings home the fact that the Nick Johnson signing was one of the worst during Cashman’s tenure. How Cash thought this guy would stay healthy is beyond me. If they had kept either Damon or Matsui, this might not have been an issue. In the end, they may end up paying more money to NJ’s replacement than they would have to either of those guys.
Kelvin July 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Erica, Chad told me something like august 2nd if I remember correctly.
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Thank you!
“Dudette, Jeter saved 18.9 million (during his 10 year contract) by living in Florida rather than establish residence in NY. The weather is just the icing on the cake.”
I’ll tell you what – the next time I see him, I’ll ask him and that will settle our difference of opinion.
Laura,
You’re spot on with the Nick Johnson signing. I think Cash’s thought was DH’ing him would keep him healthy, but I think a lot of his injuries happen while he at bat and not playing defense.
It was a bad signing and I do want to see us get a veteran bat to DH because I also think we can’t count on Jorge 100% to be physically ready to catch or DH. He’s banged up. It’s not an attack at him. It’s a fact.
“”#
All of this talk about Berkman and Dunn just brings home the fact that the Nick Johnson signing was one of the worst during Cashman’s tenure. How Cash thought this guy would stay healthy is beyond me. If they had kept either Damon or Matsui, this might not have been an issue. In the end, they may end up paying more money to NJ’s replacement than they would have to either of those guys.”"\
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The NJ signing was the second worst signing ever by Cash. It just doesn’t make sense.
G. Love,
My question about his form of social/media commentary/parody is that it’s common, which pretty much defeats its purpose.
There are 10.00′s of “fake” Twitter accounts (maybe more), all (IMO) deluding themselves thinking they are engaging in wry critique.
I think when the thing being parodied is itself ripe for parody, then we’ve reached a snake eating it’s own tail impasse.
Anyone who can type can register an account, post a link and get a literal handful of the hundreds millions of people on the web to give them some attention.
Anyone…
Which again leads to me question the point of it.
Erica in NY July 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Important question:
When does the 10 day registration period thing end and the prizes get given out
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I’ve been wondering the same thing
stuckey99 July 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
?Again you make the assumption that Jorge can regularly catch during the post season. That seems as unlikely as the Rangers counting on Vlad to be a regular RF in the playoffs.?
I don?t understand what criteria you?re basing your speculative conclusions on.
We do both agree that the threshold for Jorge Posada playing catcher in the regular season is vastly different that it would be for the postseason, don?t we?
Yankees enjoy a fairly substantial cushion to make the postseason, they have the luxury of being very delicate with Posada and the criteria for him being ?able? to catch is very low.
What might keep him at DH and even on the bench now will likely not be the same criteria that dictates how and when we plays in the PS, with off days after every 2 games and longer breaks in-between series.
We do agree on that logic, yes?
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The breaks that you are talking about have been reduced thanks to the complaints over last year’s post season.
“Jorge Posada said he could have played today, even Joe Girardi said “there’s no doubt” he could have started Posada.”
From yesterday
“”I’ll tell you what – the next time I see him, I’ll ask him and that will settle our difference of opinion.”"
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Get an invite for us for the November wedding
Just a Rocky theory, but “women weaken legs”. Maybe Minka is the cause of Jete’s stat brown out?
Also, how do you explain a foul ball off Jorge’s foot as an age related injury?
You should go back and read CB’s post on this issue and parallels to Joe Mauer from last night during the game Chip.
Pat M. July 30th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
GB, I remember when Tracy came up with the LA Dodgers….I just had a brain cramp….He’d be an upgrade to what’s in the dugout now
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Yeah, this is the Chad Tracy that was drafted by Arizona. Had two 20+ homer seasons in ’05 and ’06. Injuries derailed him for a few years. I can see him having a few good years playing in that park. Pretty much like a left handed version of Nady.
Melkmanisinhotlanta July 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
?Dude, you are way off base. These guys live in Florida because the weather is nice 90% of the time. Most tennis players live there as well.?
Dudette, Jeter saved 18.9 million (during his 10 year contract) by living in Florida rather than establish residence in NY. The weather is just the icing on the cake.
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I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn’t get their hands in Jeter’s pockets somehow.
Which again leads to me question the point of it.
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It can be funny? Not everyone is going to attract a following because they won’t be funny? OldHossRadbourn, CyborgHanson48, TimMcCarver, Grrmpy, YesMichaelKay.
They post funny things. Who cares if there happens to be bunch of other twitter accounts? There are certainly a lot of stand up and improv comedians in the world. Doesn’t make the good ones any less funny.
Take the stick out, or is it stuckey?
“It was a bad signing and I do want to see us get a veteran bat to DH because I also think we can’t count on Jorge 100% to be physically ready to catch or DH. He’s banged up. It’s not an attack at him. It’s a fact.”
I see your point. I’d actually rather get another bullpen guy. I think that the rest of the guys can carry the offense. We need someone to replace Park and/or Gaudin.
stuckey,
You make a valid point. I don’t dispute it.
For the record, I don’t have a personal twitter feed as it seemed stupid to me talk about myself in that forum. That said, it was fun and a diversion for me when I was pretending to be Hank. It made people laugh. At one point I had a lot of the beat writers, Pete included, following me because they thought it was funny.
I think Bret’s just having a laugh and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Do I think Twitter is a valuable tool in our universe? No. I think it’s dumb. But when you’re bored or procrastinating (like I am right now), it’s harmless.
I was the phony Buster Olney Twitter at last year’s trade deadline.
I tried putting out speculation that for the Red Sox to get Halladay, it would take Lester, knowing the Sox would never make such a deal.
I then reported that the PED user from the Oakland A’s as claimed by Canseco was not Rickey Henderson, but Dennis Eckersley.
It was then reported on various websites, followed by MLB Trade Rumors reporting it to be a fake Buster Olney account, followed by retractions of the Eckersley rumor.
“I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn’t get their hands in Jeter’s pockets somehow.”
They did last year. They sued him and he paid a fine or some kind of settlement. It’s hard being a millionaire.
stuckey99 July 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
?Again you make the assumption that Jorge can regularly catch during the post season. That seems as unlikely as the Rangers counting on Vlad to be a regular RF in the playoffs.?
I don?t understand what criteria you?re basing your speculative conclusions on.
We do both agree that the threshold for Jorge Posada playing catcher in the regular season is vastly different that it would be for the postseason, don?t we?
Yankees enjoy a fairly substantial cushion to make the postseason, they have the luxury of being very delicate with Posada and the criteria for him being ?able? to catch is very low.
What might keep him at DH and even on the bench now will likely not be the same criteria that dictates how and when we plays in the PS, with off days after every 2 games and longer breaks in-between series.
We do agree on that logic, yes?
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Oh, and as for the “luxury of being delicate with Posada” no, we don’t agree. Because I’m not stupid enough to write off the Red Sox.
If you’re willing to sit here and say “eh, we’ll make the post season, the division isn’t that important” well then you’re a bloody fool.
There is a reason that the last two months of the season are called the “home stretch” it is when teams make the final push for not only making the playoffs but also for playoff positioning. Doing that with one of your strongest bats in and out of the lineup is considerably less than desireable.
And if the Yankees were to go out and bring in a guy like Snyder and DH Posada for the remainder of the season then wouldn’t you agree that the odds are good he will be fresher going into the post season than if he was catching in August and September?
“Do I think Twitter is a valuable tool in our universe? No. I think it’s dumb. But when you’re bored or procrastinating (like I am right now), it’s harmless.”
I got an account the other day just to follow NYYRumors. I don’t need one for myself. There is absolutely nothing going on in my life that needs to be reported on on a daily basis. Shouldn’t I be upset about that? LOL!
In order to get the phony Buster Olney Twitter out there, I simply posted it on here a couple days before the deadline, and all the Lohudites did my job for me. Thanks.
Pat M. July 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Edwin Jackson ( our boy GB ) has been moved to the White Sox
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always liked Jackson and that big arm of his. I think that with a real pitching coach, even at the “ancient age” of 27, he can get it all under control and become what he should be. Randy Johnson was nearly 30 when he figured it out.
GB…..Great piece in this weeks Sports Illustrated on Stan The Man Musial……He hade 1815 hits on the road as well as at home……..Chad Tracy did play for the Dodgers right ??? or am I losing it or what’s left of it ( my mind ) ??????
I’ve never found the appeal of dry british humor, I mean, there certainly are a lot of them don’t you think? Brits are everywhere these days, nasty business.
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
?I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn’t get their hands in Jeter’s pockets somehow.?
They did last year. They sued him and he paid a fine or some kind of settlement. It?s hard being a millionaire.
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From my understanding- even though I live and work in an office in NY-
If my firm sends me to a client in NJ and I work there for a week. I could technically owe money to the state of NJ at the end of the year.
So I have a very hard time believe that NY doesn’t get money from Jeter
Rumors R Us July 30th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
I was the phony Buster Olney Twitter at last year’s trade deadline.
I tried putting out speculation that for the Red Sox to get Halladay, it would take Lester, knowing the Sox would never make such a deal.
I then reported that the PED user from the Oakland A’s as claimed by Canseco was not Rickey Henderson, but Dennis Eckersley.
It was then reported on various websites, followed by MLB Trade Rumors reporting it to be a fake Buster Olney account, followed by retractions of the Eckersley rumor.
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Dang.
You and G. Love have set the bar high for me, too high I presume.
Bronx Jeers is rooting for me to get a cease and desist order from Randy Levine.
It’s just my rookie season so…maybe give me a year!
LGY July 30th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Also, how do you explain a foul ball off Jorge?s foot as an age related injury?
You should go back and read CB?s post on this issue and parallels to Joe Mauer from last night during the game Chip.
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The age related part of that is that in his younger days he may have been quicker to recover.
I truly don’t get why some of you get so defensive over this issue. He’s 38 and playing the most physically demanding spot on the field; moving him to DH for the last two months of the season let’s him stay in the lineup and take some of the wear and tear off his body so he’s fresh for the playoffs.
I’m not talking about taking him out to the field and shooting him like a lame horse.
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
All of this talk about Berkman and Dunn just brings home the fact that the Nick Johnson signing was one of the worst during Cashman’s tenure. How Cash thought this guy would stay healthy is beyond me. If they had kept either Damon or Matsui, this might not have been an issue. In the end, they may end up paying more money to NJ’s replacement than they would have to either of those guys.
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Give the lady the prize – she’s the winner!!!
I will add to your last sentence this…In the end, they may end up paying more money to NJ’s replacement than they would have to either of those guys or feel the loss come playoff time when Thames, Miranda or some other scrub sees more playing time than they should.
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
All of this talk about Berkman and Dunn just brings home the fact that the Nick Johnson signing was one of the worst during Cashman?s tenure. How Cash thought this guy would stay healthy is beyond me. If they had kept either Damon or Matsui, this might not have been an issue. In the end, they may end up paying more money to NJ?s replacement than they would have to either of those guys.
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Which really makes all of that offseason talk about not wanting to go slightly “overbudget’ to meet Damon’s demands even more ridiculous in retrospect
“I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn?t get their hands in Jeter?s pockets somehow.”
They tax him for what he earns on the days he plays in NY but not on his whole salary.
The FL state tax loophole for athletes has been used forever.
Pat M. July 30th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
GB…..Great piece in this weeks Sports Illustrated on Stan The Man Musial……He hade 1815 hits on the road as well as at home……..Chad Tracy did play for the Dodgers right ??? or am I losing it or what’s left of it ( my mind ) ??????
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The Tracy that I’m referring to signed and played with Arizona until last year and the signed with the Cubs this past winter, so, the Cubs would be paying all but, $100,000 if he was brought up now. Pretty cheap left handed power and emergency glove.
They weren’t going to keep Matsui unless he waited out Damon; Damon turned down the Yankees. Do we have to rehash this over and over and over again?
Johnson was not first choice; it was risky healthwise, but I can see the reasoning in the taking the gamble. Fewer opportunities for most people to get hurt if they’re not playing the field; his biggest injuries came during defense.
Whatever.
“Which really makes all of that offseason talk about not wanting to go slightly “overbudget’ to meet Damon’s demands even more ridiculous in retrospect”
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Why would the Yankees bid against themselves though?
They offered him more money than any other team.
Bidding against themselves would set a bad precedent and cost them much more in the long run especially since they were dealing with Scott Boras.
RiverAveBlues Definitely. RT: @BobKlap: #Yankees definitely out on Dunn
The Yanks have a chance of finding their bullpen guys in Scranton. They aren’t going to find a hitter there. Improving DH/OF/infield backup are hopefully Cashman’s priorities right now.
Pat, I’ll have to pull up the piece on Musial. Lord, could that guy hit. He was as good as Ted williams as far as I’m concerned.r
?I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn?t get their hands in Jeter?s pockets somehow.?
They tax him for what he earns on the days he plays in NY but not on his whole salary.
The FL state tax loophole for athletes has been used forever.
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As does every other State he plays in.
GB….I’ve always felt the same way about Edwin from the 1st time I saw him at the age of 19 @ Dodger Stadium…..
The funny part of all this is when you read a guy like Rosenthal saying, “Yankees are interested in Berkman at the right price”.
What does that mean?
You could say that about ANY player.
I haven’t talked to Brian Cashman recently but, I dare say he would be interested in Albert Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, and others “at the right price”.
That’s where Twitter is a waste of time. It really doesn’t tell you anything you don’t already know if you put two seconds of thought into a particular subject.
If Toronto just signed Mike Jacobs, they may be getting ready to move Lyle Overbay. I assume it’s only for a minor league piece of small value.
pat July 30th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
?I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn?t get their hands in Jeter?s pockets somehow.?
They tax him for what he earns on the days he plays in NY but not on his whole salary.
The FL state tax loophole for athletes has been used forever.
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Thats what I figured-
But NY could also probably argue that his residence for home games could qualify him for part year status and be applicable for proration. Not just on the income “earned” in NY
The best part about the Hideki Matsui nostalgia is that Cashman would be getting killed on this board for resigning an old DH with bad knees because of the season Matsui is having.
You really can’t win with the fans when you are a GM.
LGY July 30th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
?Which really makes all of that offseason talk about not wanting to go slightly “overbudget’ to meet Damon’s demands even more ridiculous in retrospect?
??????????
Why would the Yankees bid against themselves though?
They offered him more money than any other team.
Bidding against themselves would set a bad precedent and cost them much more in the long run especially since they were dealing with Scott Boras.
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Is “because I wanted them to” an acceptable answer?
Pat M. July 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
GB….I’ve always felt the same way about Edwin from the 1st time I saw him at the age of 19 @ Dodger Stadium…..
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I think a guy like Don Cooper could really help jackson fulfill what was expected of him.
Is “because I wanted them to” an acceptable answer?
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I checked with the judges and we will take that answer
Jeter-SS
Swisher-RF
Tex-1B
ARod-3B
Cano-2B
Posada-C
Granderson-CF
Miranda-DH
Gardner-LF
“I’m not a big fast food guy, but there’s a Chick-Fil-A in Tampa and I quite simply cannot help myself. I would have gladly traded my chicken sandwich for four more hours of sleep, but as a consolation prize, it wasn’t bad.”
I think it may be my favorite Southern fast food chain. Did you get the Fried Spicy Chicken Sandwich? yummmmmmm the worst is that they are closed on Sundays(started by a traditional Georgia family) and that’s when I usually crave it the most
The State of New York has tried to tax me for wearing my Yankee cap in San Francisco (but not in Santa Fe).
Wait a second… why am I posting this? What is the point of it all? Sad times.
1. Erica – NYS came after the Captain a few years ago, saying his residence was really NY. They finally reached a settlement on the dollars. Newspaper consensus was that NY was making a public example of Jeter.
2. So, Toronto signed Mike Jacobs? Maybe Overbay will be going someplace – let’s see, LH bat? Maybe NYY? Let’s start a rumor!
2. So, Toronto signed Mike Jacobs? Maybe Overbay will be going someplace – let’s see, LH bat? Maybe NYY? Let’s start a rumor!
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minor league depth because they got rid of wallace
G. Love,
Let me be clear. If people want to communicate and make jokes via Twitter, I’m cool.
It’s when people do it intending to “fool” people into thinking it’s real or treating it seriously is when the self-importance meter redlines for me.
GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
If Toronto just signed Mike Jacobs, they may be getting ready to move Lyle Overbay. I assume it?s only for a minor league piece of small value.
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Overbay has a no trade clause
tampayank July 30th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I think it may be my favorite Southern fast food chain. Did you get the Fried Spicy Chicken Sandwich? yummmmmmm the worst is that they are closed on Sundays(started by a traditional Georgia family) and that’s when I usually crave it the most
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Yes! As a Fort Myers resident who goes to Tampa quite a bit, I can’t even count the amount of times I’ve wanted Chick-Fil-A on my drive back home and then realized it was a Sunday
Berkman to the Yanks??
Looking forward to this series.
As long as we are not swept, things will be just fine on Sunday night.
The games won’t be easy. Will take excellent play to beat the rays on the road.
Let’s do this!!!
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Let me be clear. If people want to communicate and make jokes via Twitter, I’m cool.
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You sure? You were railing against parody earlier.
( speculation on WFAN now, no done deal)
jerkface – don’t be logical. Let’s start a wild, totally unsubstantiated rumor – those are the best kind. If Bret can do it, why not everyone?
Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
you mean the cliff lee that we already beat in the playoffs and has a career 4.7 era against us
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If by “we” you mean the yankees, then they have never beaten cliff lee in the playoffs, including when he pitched with cleveland if I’m not mistaken. As for the 4.7 era i’m not sure you’d want to include the 2002 – 2005 years as the cliff lee then (when the yankees had success off of him) isn’t the same cliff lee now. But I do give you credit for thinking positively that the yankees could have success off of him in a 5 game series.
pat July 30th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
?I am not a state and local taxation expert, but I would be shocked if New York didn?t get their hands in Jeter?s pockets somehow.?
They tax him for what he earns on the days he plays in NY but not on his whole salary.
The FL state tax loophole for athletes has been used forever.
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Thats what I figured-
But NY could also probably argue that his residence for home games could qualify him for part year status and be applicable for proration. Not just on the income “earned” in NY
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Most people think that someone’s salary is their main source of income…but for the rich, thats not necesarily so. In the case of a New York based MLB player, his salary is fully taxable in NYS. But…things like investment income are taxed in the state he resides. For many rich people investment income is huge and by declaring residency in Fla they can avoid state income tax on that part of their income.
Let’s start a wild, totally unsubstantiated rumor
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I already had my fun on wild unsubstantiated rumors when I nearly convinced Jon Heyman that I had the real leaked steroid list with the 103 names on it.
“The best part about the Hideki Matsui nostalgia is that Cashman would be getting killed on this board for resigning an old DH with bad knees because of the season Matsui is having. ‘
Not from me. Honestly, LGY – can you at least admit that Matsui probably would have helped us more this season than Johnson has?
want no part of bergman… can’t hit lefties and is too old…
also a warning about Checkers, their fries are amazing but I question ‘the cleanliness’ of most of their locations …just the way they serve you I wouldn’t be surprised if they fail a few health inspections. Chick-Fil-A on the other hand is always quick and organized…just seems like a cleaner run establishment
“Do we have to rehash this over and over and over again?’
As long as Nick Johnson is sitting on the bench collecting dust and knitting a scarf and the Yankees are out there looking for a DH, yes we do.
i (i, as in me… myself) am really over this blogs (the lohud yankees blog) obsession of calling out the “we” “us” nonsense. get over yourself (you, as in… you).
Berkman, Matsui or Dunn….???…who will it be ?
“also a warning about Checkers, their fries are amazing but I question ‘the cleanliness’ of most of their locations ‘
Oh, make no mistake. Clean and Checkers are two words that do not belong in the same sentence. Every time I went there, I knew that I was taking a gamble. But those fries made it seem worth it.
I already had my fun on wild unsubstantiated rumors when I nearly convinced Jon Heyman that I had the real leaked steroid list with the 103 names on it.
Was that you? I’m impressed.
I hope that everyone here is preparing themselves for the probable outcome that the Yankees might not make any deal at all at the trade deadline. If I remember correctly, last year a lot of folks on the blog went nuts when the only deal at the trade deadline was for Jerry Hairston Jr. The blog degenerated into whining for about 2 weeks. Lets hope it doesn’t do so this time.
Laura,
Of course he would have helped us more than NJ. I know you wouldn’t be complaining if we had him.
My comment was more a general one about Cashman not being able to win because there would be a different segment of posters complaining about resigning him.
I also like to push your buttons a bit when you bring up Matsui
Don’t tell stuckey though because I may have to explain to him the grand purpose behind that though 
laura – don’t believe for a second that those athletes have their residence declared in florida for any reason other than taxes. hell, jeter got audited by the IRS and had to prove that he spent time in his house in florida. it’s the same reason that wade/bosh/lebron mess went down in miami and not NY, they each earn almost an extra $12mil just by being in florida.
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
“The best part about the Hideki Matsui nostalgia is that Cashman would be getting killed on this board for resigning an old DH with bad knees because of the season Matsui is having. ‘
Not from me. Honestly, LGY – can you at least admit that Matsui probably would have helped us more this season than Johnson has?
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The dead bloated body of Babe Ruth would have helped us more than Nick Johnson this year (with his dead bloated body
). It hurts me to even see him on the bench while on the DL taking up space for some other player who has contributed more this year. This guy is the epitome of a loser (just ahead of Bobby Meachem).
“i (i, as in me… myself) am really over this blogs (the lohud yankees blog) obsession of calling out the “we” “us” nonsense. get over yourself (you, as in… you).”
Okay, I’ve got a degree from a very reputable college and even I don’t understand this. LOL!
“Oh, and as for the “luxury of being delicate with Posada” no, we don’t agree. Because I’m not stupid enough to write off the Red Sox.”
Not stupid enough?
Are you smart enough to have done the math, or ARE you stupid enough to make such a claim NOT having done it?
“If you’re willing to sit here and say “eh, we’ll make the post season, the division isn’t that important” well then you’re a bloody fool.”
When did I ever imply that?
“There is a reason that the last two months of the season are called the “home stretch””
Yes, because it’s the last leg of the season.
“And if the Yankees were to go out and bring in a guy like Snyder and DH Posada for the remainder of the season then wouldn’t you agree that the odds are good he will be fresher going into the post season than if he was catching in August and September?”
I believe you’ve lost track of the argument.
I have no position on getting a guy like Synder.
I’m confident the Yankees will be as fine the last 2 months of the season as they have been the first 4 months of the season with the personnel and limitations they have. And equally confident unless a major injury re/occurs, Posada will catch everyday in the PS.
If they are able to upgrade Cervelli in a good deal. That’s fine.
If they are able to get a DH upgrade in a good deal. That’s fine.
if they do neither, that’s fine.
The amusing part of you being fixated on this issue and now calling people who disagree with you defensive if two-fold.
1.) The actual season’s results favor the non-panicked position.
2.) If you’re a Yankee fan, you should WANT be to be right.
You seem quite interested in being correct about the Yankees being in trouble if they don’t “fix” the catching situation, which I have a hard time relating too.
“I also like to push your buttons a bit when you bring up Matsui
Don’t tell stuckey though because I may have to explain to him the grand purpose behind that though 
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LGY, you are so mean to me. Keep it up.
What’s the point of Twitter? Speed? Certainly not accuracy. Why do people feel the urgency to broadcast their every thought to the world? Is it an ego trip? Something a high schooler might like but not an adult. I guess it’s the computer world we live in…
Here’s a little note on Gary Sanchez that you might enjoy from a site called “Call To The Pen”.
“Gary Sanchez, C, Yankees (Rookie)—Sanchez has missed the last few days with an injury suffered while running out a ground ball, but he could miss two full seasons at his age and still be a coveted prospect.
We’re talking about a 17-year-old catcher who’s not only already playing US ball, but is hitting .378/.455/.692 in the GCL as one of the league’s youngest players. A catcher is doing this, mind you.
Jesus Montero’s defensive issues may scare Yankees fans when they hear about a hitting machine who plays “catcher,” but while Sanchez isn’t a tremendous defender right now, scouts believe he has the athleticism and arm strength to be solid behind the plate in time—Montero never had that benefit of the doubt.
Is 20 games too early to anoint Sanchez the next great Yankee superstar? Of course. But his scouting reports have been glowing, and his numbers are way advanced for his age and position.There’s no question that Sanchez is a major player to watch in coming years.”
http://calltothepen.com/2010/0.....-and-more/
Jerkface July 30th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Let’s start a wild, totally unsubstantiated rumor
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I already had my fun on wild unsubstantiated rumors when I nearly convinced Jon Heyman that I had the real leaked steroid list with the 103 names on it.
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Nice, I am surrounded by mischief makers.
Laura -
Sigh.
Why do people feel the urgency to broadcast their every thought to the world? Is it an ego trip? Something a high schooler might like but not an adult. I guess it’s the computer world we live in…
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Friends can keep up on what their friends are doing, its easy to organize a meetup if you tweet something that everyone else follows.
For news it allows rapid posting of information from a phone. Its like an RSS feed of BS.
It has its inaccuracies but it also has its uses.
All I know is that every day I work in a different state (which is 4 of 5 working days) I pay taxes in that state since that’s where the income was earned.
It’s one of the many reasons I pay someone smarter than me to do my taxes every year – I end up having to file in anywhere from 2-6 states
“Sigh.”
Doreen, the truth sucks sometimes, doesn’t it?
Laura -
I think the person you quoted doesn’t like when people say “we” as if they were actually employed by the NY Yankees.
(It’s a pet peeve of mine, too, but I’ve given up on it.
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Just curious as to the percentage of people on this forum that have full-time jobs. Take retirees out of the calculation (and I’d expect the retiree population to be rather small).
Some folks are on here night and day. I’m going to say that the fully employed percentage is roughly 60%. I hope I’m being pessimistic.
SI_JonHeyman
#yankees, 1 team with $, getting lots of calls. eventually theyll get someone (tho not dunn — theyre out of that)
5 minutes ago via web
rishi – something about the way the CBA is written must allow them to declare their income in their state of residence. maybe because the mlb is nationwide? anyone know how that works?
Some folks are on here night and day. I’m going to say that the fully employed percentage is roughly 60%. I hope I’m being pessimistic.
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Some people do this at work.
Laura -
Yeah.
Nick Johnson wouldn’t have been my first choice. I think the Yankees focused on the right one of the two (Damon vs. Matsui) because of Damon could play the outfield. I wish things had gone differently all around, but once it was a done deal, all you’re left to do is hope NJ didn’t get hurt. Sigh. So much for that.
However, the team as a whole is doing very well, even though they’re not perfectly perfect, and in my opinion, the games that have been lost have been lost in the bullpen. Aceves was (is) the bigger loss over NJ.
mick — I don’t disagree; I myself am at work. However, some are on all day, everyday. No way they can have jobs that allow and afford so much down time.
Funny how young people in college in the 60′s and 70′s railed against the the threat of computers taking over. Of course they weren’t a reality back then but there was a fear. Now that they have, most have embraced them but I wonder if the world is a better place because of the dependence on them.
doreen – i know its technically incorrect to do… but i like to take ownership of my fan-dom.
i just don’t see why its necessary for someone to point it out every time it’s said, i certainly didn’t type it by accident. i don’t think too highly of “cashman needs to go” and his opinions anyway, so it’s just annoying to be called out by the grammar police.
YankFanCA July 30th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Just curious as to the percentage of people on this forum that have full-time jobs. Take retirees out of the calculation (and I’d expect the retiree population to be rather small).
Some folks are on here night and day. I’m going to say that the fully employed percentage is roughly 60%. I hope I’m being pessimistic
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Great comment. I was actually thinking the other day to ask the bloggers on here what their dream job would be, considering that since they are on this blog so often during the day that their current job must not be their dream job. Mine would be having the same gig as Mike Francessa, having people ask me for my opinions about sports even though I may not know anything about it (just like Mikey F
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“You sure? You were railing against parody earlier.”
I’m am, I was railing against parody in context of Bret’s strutting over how he managed to get 3 of his 12 followers from the midwest all riled up.
Context is a good thing Jerkface. You should occasionally consider it.
“Some people do this at work.”
I’m off today; that’s why I’m on. I post while at work, but not that much.
“Berkman has hit .287 at home this year with a .512 slugging percentage. But away from Minute Maid Park, Berkman was hitting .194 with a .343 slugging percentage. In addition, the switch-hitting Berkman has batted just .188 vs. lefties this year with one homer in 64 at-bats.”
Hughes needs to command his fastball, use his curve more and his cutter less.
His fastball often misses the target by feet, which obviously is not good.
His curve is very good, but he needs to use it to keep hitters from sitting on his fastball.
The cutter has help him get some easy outs, but I would bet that at least 75% of his home runs against are on cutters.
If he makes these adjustments, he will be back where he was in April and May.
I agree Twitter is techno-narcissism, nothing more.
Blog posting, however is pure genius!
ID – I think it’s the same for them…they get per diems etc.
not to get too complex, but once the government knows I’m in another state for more than a year, I have to either move to that state or go compensatory (complicated tax thing…that’s all I know).
they are employees of the NY Yankees in NY (or FLA), not employees of the MLB…I can’t imagine the law changes, but the earlier comment about interest income makes a lot of sense. I pay NY tax on that.
The dead bloated body of Babe Ruth would have helped us more than Nick Johnson this year (with his dead bloated body
). It hurts me to even see him on the bench while on the DL taking up space for some other player who has contributed more this year. This guy is the epitome of a loser (just ahead of Bobby Meachem).
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Esp. with that mustache, thank god somebody made him shave it…
but I wonder if the world is a better place because of the dependence on them.
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Emphatic yes.
Twitter definitely has it’s positive uses. But like everything else in life, it can be misused/abused.
I think it’s interesting in respect. I thought it might be good to have a twitter account and for my daughter to have one, so I could keep tabs on her, or so she could reach me. She doesn’t have one; I have one so I can get the lineups. And if you’re a newshound, you can keep up with the world’s headlines.
But as I think about it, why do I need to keep such suffocatingly close tabs? And why isn’t a phone call, text message or email enough???? Not to mention posting on a facebook wall.
It’s overkill, definitely.
I’m am, I was railing against parody in context of Bret’s strutting over how he managed to get 3 of his 12 followers from the midwest all riled up.
Context is a good thing Jerkface. You should occasionally consider it.
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No, you specifically said that the ease of access to someone creating a fake twitter defeated the purpose of it. It wasn’t specific to Bret the Hitman and his 3 followers.
“However, the team as a whole is doing very well, even though they’re not perfectly perfect, and in my opinion, the games that have been lost have been lost in the bullpen. Aceves was (is) the bigger loss over NJ.”
Probably. I’m just annoyed that we have to hear about them looking for a DH when they could have had one with Damon or Matsui. I know that I should be over that by now, but it still bothers me.
jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Most people think that someone?s salary is their main source of income?but for the rich, thats not necesarily so. In the case of a New York based MLB player, his salary is fully taxable in NYS. But?things like investment income are taxed in the state he resides. For many rich people investment income is huge and by declaring residency in Fla they can avoid state income tax on that part of their income.
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I know that.
I am a CPA (just not particualrly specialized in taxation). But for a few months of the year I can’t avoid doing very rich people’s tax returns
Okay.. going to the beach. Bye everyone!
Hmm. Dream Job. Sports talk is cool, but to have to engage the general public every day is not for me. The IQ of many callers is closer to that of the early hominids.
“In addition, the switch-hitting Berkman has batted just .188 vs. lefties this year with one homer in 64 at-bats.””
Yeah, let’s get this guy. Then he and Granderson can compete for the “Who Can’t Hit Lefites” award.
I’m pretty sure they are paid by the location of the franchise, however when they declare residency somewhere other then that state they abide by that states tax rules as well.
No tax there, but still I’m sure Jeter is taxed by NYS. Maybe SJ can help us with that question, I live in NJ and work in NY, I’m taxed by both states could be different for them though.
Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
doreen – i know its technically incorrect to do… but i like to take ownership of my fan-dom. i just don’t see why its necessary for someone to point it out every time it’s said, i certainly didn’t type it by accident. i don’t think too highly of “cashman needs to go” and his opinions anyway, so it’s just annoying to be called out by the grammar police.
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ID – my apologies for upsetting you – i’m not hung up if you use “we” to include yourself as part of the yankees – heck about 70% of the people on here do it – i just wasn’t sure if “we” meant the yankees because i was making a point that the yankees had never beaten cliff lee in the playoffs. Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
doreen – i know its technically incorrect to do… but i like to take ownership of my fan-dom. i just don’t see why its necessary for someone to point it out every time it’s said, i certainly didn’t type it by accident. i don’t think too highly of “cashman needs to go” and his opinions anyway, so it’s just annoying to be called out by the grammar police.
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ID – my apologies for upsetting you – i’m not hung up if you use “we” to include yourself as part of the yankees – heck about 70% of the people on here do it – i just wasn’t sure if “we” meant the yankees because i was making a point that the yankees had never beaten cliff lee in the playoffs. Plus whats the saying about people and opinions…..
Have fun, Erica!
I have 16 followers, Jerkface.
Far more action on the non-followers with hate tweets against my tweets.
Berkman from June 1 on: .259 .385 .465 .850
July 1 on: .233 .404 .521 .925
But as I think about it, why do I need to keep such suffocatingly close tabs? And why isn’t a phone call, text message or email enough???? Not to mention posting on a facebook wall.
It’s overkill, definitely.
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Doreen
It’s amazing we have made it this far.
How did we ever live without a computer?
“# Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
laura – don’t believe for a second that those athletes have their residence declared in florida for any reason other than taxes. hell, jeter got audited by the IRS and had to prove that he spent time in his house in florida. it’s the same reason that wade/bosh/lebron mess went down in miami and not NY, they each earn almost an extra $12mil just by being in florida.
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I don’t think it’s just about Taxes. There are positives and negatives to every place. And Jeter really does spend most of his time in Tampa, he’s seen around all the time..specifically at Starbucks locations
…I remember that tax case and I said to myself there are lots of people that can vouche that he really spends a lot of time here. Ofcourse all rich athletes are on their private jets to getaways everywhere during the offseason so their ‘home life’ is different from most of ours
Irreverent Discourse -
I gave up on it, because I realized two things: most important, who cares what I think? and secondly, it’s really harmless.
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YanksFanCA
I ended up being a stay at home mom. Most of my friends have gone back to work. Because of the situation with my kids, it’s most practical for me to be home and we are blessed in that I can do so. This blog is my watercooler. And a great respite between boring household chores and errands.
have a good time Erica
Stay-at-home mom deserves hazard pay. Apart from being a male, I could never be a stay-at-home. No way do I have that degree of patience. Plus, it’s a 16-hour-per-day+ position.
Maybe Cash will talk to NJ and ask him for 50% off his 2010 rate for 2011? Another 50% of nothing.
I wish I could be a stay at home dad. Sounds like the best and laziest position ever.
Jerkface — be careful what you wish for! It must be unrelenting.
The value of a Mom staying at home needs to be taxed. Let’s get Blahblah on this.
If the Yankees were to just make one move I’d like them to get an arm in the bullpen. Can never have too much pitching and I am confident in the starting rotation/offense.
“No, you specifically said that the ease of access to someone creating a fake twitter defeated the purpose of it. It wasn’t specific to Bret the Hitman and his 3 followers.”
“There are 10.00’s of “fake” Twitter accounts (maybe more), all (IMO) deluding themselves thinking they are engaging in wry critique.”
“I think when the thing being parodied is itself ripe for parody, then we’ve reached a snake eating it’s own tail impasse.”
“Wry critique” quite obviously doesn’t refer to people using Twitter to engage others IN on the joke. It specifically refers to anyone bothering to care to understand it people creating accounts intending to fool other, thereby exposing the warts of the medium, the claim Bret made.
Got any more straws to grasp?
I am going to have to concur on the staying home idea, sanz the “dad” part because I dont want kids.
Stay at home bachelor maybe?
Truth…..Bullpen and then a LH Hitter
Stuckey you perpetually argue with everyone on this blog. You should make an agreement to agree at least once a day.
Pat M…
Why a lefty hitter? It seems like the bottom half of our line can get a little lefty heavy.
I am going to respectfully disagree and see a RH hitter. Unless the lefty we bring in has good splits against lefties and righties.
Truth — kids are great. Watching them develop is really awesome. But it’s 24 x 7. We settled on one. I hear two+ is infinitely tougher.
Current pen arms:Mo,Joba, Robertson,Marte(soon enough),Gaudin, Mosely,Park,Logan, hopefully Aceves soon and Mitre.
Hopefully by mixing and matching and possibly putting Hughes there for the playoffs and series we will have enough. Who is out there that won’t cost us a prospect?
My vote is a RH hitter (or Dunn), then the pen. And we need a utility infielder too.
melkmanisinhotlanta -
I’ve had various part-time jobs over the years; it ends up being cost ineffective in terms of our taxes. But, I’ve often mused over what I would get paid for the services I provide. Driving, alone, don’t get me started.
Rangers stay busy. They just acquired Christian Guzman from the Nats.
. But, I’ve often mused over what I would get paid for the services I provide.
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Doreen,
Doesn’t your husband pay you?
YanksFaninCA -
I love both my daughters, but we sometimes joke that if daughter #2 came before daughter #1, there’d have been no daughter #1!
My friends who have 3 (or more) kids, say at some point it’s no more difficult. I don’t know if I believe them.
The Truth,
I quite admittedly tend to respond to and engage those that I disagree with.
I DO like debate. No doubt.
The appeal of agreeing on a community forum is lost on me.
Perhaps that’s a character flaw, but I find the exercise of looking for people who agree with me dull.
If the Yankees were to just make one move I’d like them to get an arm in the bullpen. Can never have too much pitching and I am confident in the starting rotation/offense.
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Truth,
I know how you feel but consider the possibility that if the Yankees make the playoffs (a high probablity right now) they will add a very good arm for the bullpen…Phil Hughes. Last year the Yanks went through the playoffs with 3 starting pitchers. This year they may decide to go through the playoffs with 4 starters (CC, AJ, Andy and Vazquez). In that case Phil Hughes will be moved to the pen.
Also, don’t discount the possibilty that Damaso Marte may be back for the playoffs.
I don’t think a utility infielder is a pressing need. Someone for the pen would be great, but not a must-have. Just dump Park, call up Alba, and keep the Fat Toad away from inning 8.
Dassit, it seems they are team doing all kinds of adds and it isn’t costing them much. How is it that the other teams are saying they don’t like it that they are paying for that team and yet keep giving them deals where THEY are paying for these players?
If they are going up for auction, by the time the new owners come in there won’t be much left of value in the team.
mick -
Do you mean as in an “allowance” ????
Perhaps that’s a character flaw
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One among many :>
“and keep the Fat Toad away from inning 8.”
Irabu is making a comeback???
YankFanCA July 30th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
mick — I don’t disagree; I myself am at work. However, some are on all day, everyday. No way they can have jobs that allow and afford so much down time.
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So? What’s the problem with some of us being on here every day? Some of us don’t have to work for a living. Some of us are independently poor.
“The appeal of agreeing on a community forum is lost on me.”
I agree.
YankFanCA-
I have a ton of respect for you and anyone that is raising kids in this day in and age; it is just not for me. I personally think its really, really hard to properly raise a child in today’s atmosphere.
The Fat Toad is back?!!?
I must have missed that tweet.
“One among many :>”
For certain…
The appeal of perpetually arguing with people is lost on me, so to each their own I guess.
I worked PT when my son was young and it was absolutely wonderful. A perfect mix of kid time and adult time. However, we only have one (not really by choice) and he has always been easy from babyhood to young adulthood.
Doreen
we are glad you are home and you have time for GTLU!!
The Rangers acquired infielder Cristian Guzman from the Nationals for prospects
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Why don’t the Rangers just trade for a whole new team??? This is a joke for a team with no money. Ace pitcher, catcher, and 2 infielders..
A Berkman rental seems like a good idea to me. Veteran player. Great talent.
His numbers are down this year, but he has a career OPS+ of 145 according to baseball reference.com.
At age 34 he may be past his prime, but he is hardly over the hill, even by baseball standards.
I’d also like to see Albaladejo get a shot.
It’s one thing to argue with people, another to get on one’s nerves.
Thruth, when the club is back to full dtrenght, they seem waek from the LH side DH or whne the WS starts, as a PH hitter…..I’m fine with Thames, not all that secure with Curtis or Miranda……However, not at the cost other clubs are asking
Berkman is hitting .261/.395/.479 vs righthanded pitching. That’s not bad at all. Terrible vs lhp, but that’s what Thames is for.
Posada will catch every game in the postseason if he is not seriously injured. A lot of the games he gets off or DH’s he could play and would catch if it were the postseason.
Berkman sees a lot of pitches, would fit in well batting 7th or 8th.
Truth — you are absolutely right; it’s very tough. But a lot of hard things are worth the effort. I think of career minor leaguers who finally get a cup of coffee in the majors. It’s a really tough slog, but then the taste of the coffee is that much sweeter.
joelsherman1 #Yankees are definitely in for Lance Berkman, considering him seriously
Doreen July 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
melkmanisinhotlanta -
I’ve had various part-time jobs over the years; it ends up being cost ineffective in terms of our taxes. But, I’ve often mused over what I would get paid for the services I provide. Driving, alone, don’t get me started.
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a few years ago, somebody figured out exactly what a mother and wife’s )or domestic engineer) salary was and it took into account licensed limousine service, full time cook, full time baby sitter, house keeping services, teacher, nursing service, laundry service and “companionship” for the husband, etc. It came to more than $300,000 a year.
YankFanCA-
haha great analogy.
I think part of my reluctance stems from the fact that I have worked very hard to get where I am at and want to enjoy success for a while.
An allowance? Doreen, no fringe benefits?
Uggh. Berkman is on a serious down slope.
Can’t blame you, Truth. It’s all about choices, sacrifices, opportunity costs, etc.
Color me unimpressed with Lance Berkman. Pass.
But I’m assuming that rumor has about as much truth to it as all the other guys linked to the Yanks.
“At age 34 he may be past his prime, but he is hardly over the hill, even by baseball standards.”
Pretty close. Bad body for a 34 year old. Can still get on base on though, and has a little thump.
Doreen July 30th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
YanksFaninCA -
I love both my daughters, but we sometimes joke that if daughter #2 came before daughter #1, there’d have been no daughter #1!
My friends who have 3 (or more) kids, say at some point it’s no more difficult. I don’t know if I believe them.
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Doreen I have to agree with you – i have 2 boys and if son #2 (3 years old) were born before son #1 (4 and a half) we’d probably have only 1..
as for it getting easier with #3 and more…i have a theory – i think the work and responsibility is the same – but i think the worrying tends to stop or lessen (since having 3 or more means you’ve been at it for quite awhile) and parents will allow #3 (4 or 5) to do things that they would have freaked out when they had only 1 or 2 … so climbing on the kitchen table for #3 doesn’t have the same “end of the world” consequences that it would if #1 or 2 had done it – since now experience kicks in and parents understand better that its what kids do….i know being a third child that i got away with a hell of alot more things than my 2 older siblings did..
Why is Cash men settling for 3rd tier guys like Bergmann?
Go out and get Dunn or Fielder….
upstate kate -
Thanks.
Maybe the short porch will excite Berkman. He has a full no trade so the Astros will probably have limited options of where he will accept a trade. His friendship with Andy will definitely help. I would like the Astros to throw Myers in the deal.
Go out and get Dunn or Fielder….
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How do you propose we get them?
Berkman for 2 months and the 2011 buyout costs nearly 7 mil.
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I agree with your theory.
Berkman for 2 months and the 2011 buyout costs nearly 7 mil.
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Its a 2 mil buyout.
One reason that the Yankees will not make too big a splash at the trade deadline is because spots on the 40 man roster (and 25 man roster) are too valuable to add many more guys.
Currently Chad Moeller is not on the 40 man roster and probably will need to be added so that the Yankees can have 3 catchers after rosters expand in September.
Also, the Yankees will need to protect a large number of minor leaguers from the rule 5 draft this offseason. I don’t think they want to get stuck with having too many residual players from trade deadline deals.
Berkman for 2 months and the 2011 buyout costs nearly 7 mil
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The Astros would obviously have to include money in the deal.
I personally don’t want Berkman. I wouldn’t be up in arms about it if we got him, but I personally think we would be fine with out him and don’t need him.
ZMAN July 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Why is Cash men settling for 3rd tier guys like Bergmann?
Go out and get Dunn or Fielder….
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Because (presumably) Berkman will not cost top prospects like the others.
Jerkface,
I did mean total cost is 7.
Remaining salary is approx 4.5 – 5 mil.
“Its a 2 mil buyout”
Think he’s talking about that and the remaining third of his salary for ’10.
Why is Cash men settling for 3rd tier guys like Bergmann?
Go out and get Dunn or Fielder….
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I suspect that the asking price (in players and money) is quite high for Dunn and Fielder. The Yankees may not want to get fleeced for either of those guys.
I did mean total cost is 7.
Remaining salary is approx 4.5 – 5 mil.
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Ah ok, I don’t think its a big deal. Astros will probably have to kick in some salary. If they kicked in salary on Oswalt and got like nothing in return I’m sure they’ll kick in for the yankees.
jacksquat July 30th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Berkman is hitting .261/.395/.479 vs righthanded pitching. That’s not bad at all. Terrible vs lhp, but that’s what Thames is for
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I’m sure a couple of weeks with kevin long and he’ll fix that right up
why is anyone up in arms over what the rangers are doing, they are spending $0. there’s no upper management so they are tearing the farm apart… they might have half a chance of putting on a show this year (my guess is probably not), and then they’ll fade away for the next 5+ years.
“The appeal of perpetually arguing with people is lost on me, so to each their own I guess.”
Truth, I think the appeal is that one day, perhaps decades from now, someone will actually respond, “you know, I never thought of it that way, i think you’re right. I change my mind.”
The elusive quality of it is kind of like a chinese puzzle I suppose.
Berkman for 2 months and the 2011 buyout costs nearly 7 mil
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Its possible that in order to get Berkman to waive his no trade clause the Yankees might have to agree to pick up the 2011 option. That means they would have to carry him on the roster all winter long…which would reduce their ability to protect a minor leaguer from the Rule 5 draft.
The latest from Joel Sherman of the New York Post:
•Executives from other teams had no idea the Astros were willing to take on $11MM of Roy Oswalt’s remaining $23.5MM.
My friends who have 3 (or more) kids, say at some point it’s no more difficult. I don’t know if I believe them.
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Going from 2 to 3 was much more challenging than going from 3 to 4 for me.
jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Berkman for 2 months and the 2011 buyout costs nearly 7 mil
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Its possible that in order to get Berkman to waive his no trade clause the Yankees might have to agree to pick up the 2011 option. That means they would have to carry him on the roster all winter long…which would reduce their ability to protect a minor leaguer from the Rule 5 draft.
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He’d be going from the almost last place Astros to the first place, postseason near lock Yankees. I don’t think he’d require that as it would be unreasonable.
stuckey-
Haha very true. I will give you credit that you at least argue coherently.
Rangers are all in
I have too many kids to join in on this conversation.
pat July 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
My friends who have 3 (or more) kids, say at some point it’s no more difficult. I don’t know if I believe them.
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Going from 2 to 3 was much more challenging than going from 3 to 4 for me.
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Going from zero to one is no picnic.
Why is Cash men settling for 3rd tier guys like Bergmann?
Go out and get Dunn or Fielder….
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The offense is fine without those guys and they would be consideralby more expensive in terms of prospects. Especially Fielder. Berkman could be had for much less and the Astros would presumably kick in money. The move would just serve as another switch hitting veteran option for Girardi at DH with some time at 1b and possibly even a few games in LF.
Last call for GTLU.
I have too many kids to join in on this conversation.
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Define too many?
Going from zero to one is no picnic.
Now that’s the truth.
jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Berkman for 2 months and the 2011 buyout costs nearly 7 mil
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Its possible that in order to get Berkman to waive his no trade clause the Yankees might have to agree to pick up the 2011 option. That means they would have to carry him on the roster all winter long…which would reduce their ability to protect a minor leaguer from the Rule 5 draft.
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He’d be going from the almost last place Astros to the first place, postseason near lock Yankees. I don’t think he’d require that as it would be unreasonable.
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If you remember, Jake Peavy did exactly that a year ago by turning down a trade to the White Sox…before he acceted a trade at a later date. We don’t know what motivates some players…security (that is, one more guaranteed season at a top salary) may be more important than wanting to win.
“why is anyone up in arms over what the rangers are doing, they are spending $0.”
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The “Rangers” are paying the $1.6m left on Cantu’s contract also $2m on Lee’s contract.
jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
If you remember, Jake Peavy did exactly that a year ago by turning down a trade to the White Sox…before he acceted a trade at a later date. We don’t know what motivates some players…security (that is, one more guaranteed season at a top salary) may be more important than wanting to win.
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Well he has no security now because the Astros are definitely going to buy him out for the 2 mil. And no other team would excercise the option to get him. So he can stay where he is or go to a contender. The only thing I can think of that might stop him is he likes his home location.
No one’s going to pick up that option certainly and not the Yanks. They don’t need him that bad if at all.
He’s had great production over the life of this contract. 14.5 per for 5 years/ with a 15 mil option on the 6th yr and a 2 mil buyout.
I don’t know too much about him but it seems like that contract worked out great for both sides.
I see that contract and then I think about Giambi’s. Mind boggling.
If the Rangers sucked I don’t think anyone would care that they’re spending OPM.
aren’t you glad we keep buying players for the Rangers (follow the money…)
sorry, jerkface. posting from mobile, lots of static…
i wish mlb would buy players for the padres who need more help financially, oh wait, they aren’t for sale.
Melkmanisinhotlanta July 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
?Dude, you are way off base. These guys live in Florida because the weather is nice 90% of the time. Most tennis players live there as well.?
Dudette, Jeter saved 18.9 million (during his 10 year contract) by living in Florida rather than establish residence in NY. The weather is just the icing on the cake.
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Indeed…..It is not just athletes who take advantage of the lack of state income tax. My aunt and uncle live in a retirement community down there; many residents own homes up north but stay in Fla. at least six months and a day to establish residency.
Jerkface and Stuckey arguing, I can’t help but think of Sybil.
I am not sure if that is an insult or compliment.
BTW
Got to run, you can yell at me later.
Luke Scott would be a better option than Berkman, whose knees are probably little better than Matsuis’. Younger, cheaper, hitting lefties and righties well. The only downside is he’s with the Orioles.
jeter trains at that sports institute 10 miles away from where he lives plus it’s a lot warmer there in winter than NYC (duh). not getting into the quasi-political “tax” issue on this site.
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I would definitely be in favor of Luke Scott. Seems like the Orioles are totally against trading with us though. Still would prefer a righty bat but I think Scott could help this team.
I would rather have Berkman for mediocre prospects than I would give up good prospects for someone like Dunn or Downs. The Yankees have $$. They can afford to spend $7 mil or whatever it is on a rental.
If the Astros ate a lot of Oswalt’s contract it would seem likely that they would eat a portion of Berkman’s.
According to Sherman-
The Yankees philosophy right now is this: They have some money to spend. Almost every other team in the majors doesn’t. So they are telling organizations hungry to move high-priced players to call and make their best offer. Translation: We can take some of your money headaches, but if we do we are not going to give up much in prospects.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....bUs1h6L2YI
Talk with Senator Kerry who is keeping his boat in RI to avoid taxes that he is now going to pony up to avoid a complete PR disaster.
I think having a switch hitter, like Berkman, coming off the bench, would be a nice piece to have. A package deal with Myers would be nice.
BTW, I have 2 kids, and it’s just right.
the Rangers are not tearing down the farm Irrev in any way.
They have a tremendous system and have only traded Smoak away as far as their top tier talent.
They still have Holland, Schepp,Perez and Engel Beltre @ the upper levels a year or less away and still have depth in the system as well as some high ceiling kids at the A levels.
That said they are definitely aggressively going for it this year as well they should because they are a legit WS contender
Scott has a great bat if the Yankees could get him, but I have read several times that Baltimore will not trade with New York.
Joel Sherman says the Yanks have money to spend. They are telling teams they will pay money towards a players contract instead of giving up good prospects. They are talking about Berkman and Lily.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....bUs1h6L2YI
pat-
Read the Sherman article on Berkman. The Astros could wait until August, put him on waivers, and just dump the remaining $$$ on that team without getting any lower level prospects or paying any money.