Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Colin Curtis DH
Brett Gardner LF
I like Curtis at DH, he usually has good AB’s and hits the ball hard. But those of you asking why the yanks are looking for a bat….Curtis filling that role is the reason why they’re looking.
upstate kate July 30th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
yeah, I had it right too, other than Miranda in place of Colin Curtis?oh well, I am happy for him that he gets a chance to play.
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kate, I’m happy for him too.
How can Texas pick up Cristian Guzman and have the Nat’s pick up his salary? They are bankrupt and just out there wheeling and dealing. Doesn’t make much sense.
Lance Berkman does not directly fit any of the Yankees’ greatest needs.
However, his price both in dollars and/or prospects has fallen so low that the Yankees are definitely looking hard whether to acquire the switch-hitter.
The Yankees philosophy right now is this: They have some money to spend. Almost every other team in the majors doesn’t. So they are telling organizations hungry to move high-priced players to call and make their best offer. Translation: We can take some of your money headaches, but if we do we are not going to give up much in prospects.
By no later than 4 p.m. tomorrow, the Yankees will see what most appeals to them from his overpriced buffet and pick an item or two.
This is why they dropped out of the Adam Dunn sweepstakes: Because the Nationals were not willing to take marginal prospects just to get rid of the money. The same might go for Toronto and Scott Downs.
So for now the Yanks are seeing if they could use their financial might to act as vultures.
Is it scary that there hasn’t been any news or rumors from the redsox on who they are close to getting (except downs), or is it that they are resigned to the fact that they are probably 3rd in a 3 horse race this year and going to battle with what they have
Would Yanks pick up Berkman’s option for next year? 15 mill or 2 mill buyout
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I’m obviosuly biased against cashman, but if berkman is traded to the yankees i don’t think he’d be THAT dumb to agree to pay the man 15 million for 1 year – if that was the case then he should have just paid damon his money – and as we know cashman isn’t going to admit that he screwed up – thats why igawa is still in the minors
maybe it’s just me but seems like everyone is talking about Cervelli not hitting like he did prior to All-Star game, i just think it’s because he’s gotten less playing time and now is no longer in a groove…Posada at DH is where he needs to be, Cervelli behind the plate…anyone not think that’s a good idea?
“I’m obviosuly biased against cashman, but if berkman is traded to the yankees i don’t think he’d be THAT dumb to agree to pay the man 15 million for 1 year – if that was the case then he should have just paid damon his money – and as we know cashman isn’t going to admit that he screwed up – thats why igawa is still in the minors”
This is perhaps the most entertainingly convoluted logic I’ve ever seen here .. and that’s saying something.
Cashman didn’t screw up with Damon. When you make the guy the highest offer, and he takes a lower offer, that’s not on the GM. Its on the player and his agent.
Johnny is also hitting .202 with RISP this year and hasn’t had a good year.
If Cashman bid against himself, and brought him back, and he was performing like this, you would be screaming bloody murder at him.
Sometimes, emotional biases aren’t always the most accurate indicators of balance.
You want to blame him for Nick Johnson? That’s fair game.
Damon? Not even close.
That’s all on Johnny and, more specifically, Boras.
Sawx will probably make a move too. What it is remains to be seen.
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I read somewhere that Boston REALLY COVET Scott Downs but it reamins to be seen if the Blue Jays will trade within the division. Toronto is still sensitive about trading David Cone to the Yankees in 1996 and Roger Clemens to the Yankees in 1999.
Re: Igawa, he’s actually, “still in the minors” because it would cost the Yankees more money to deal him. They would get hit with a luxury tax hit they don’t need to take.
So, the winningest pitcher in Scranton history remains in minor league purgatory.
One of unexpected consequences of the way the luxury tax rule was designed.
As far as Berkman is concerned, no, they wouldn’t pick up his option for 2011.
Chances are, if they did acquire him, Houston would kick in money toward the remainder of his salary this year and the Yankees would buy out his option at the end of the season, making him a FA.
“•Dunn says he’d be comfortable DHing for the rest of the year, according to multiple reporters, including Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post (Twitter link). That is music to the ears of White Sox, Rays and Yankees fans.
•The Rays are convinced that the Yankees will acquire Dunn, Peter Gammons told WEEI.com. Gammons suspects that if the Nationals trade Dunn, the Yankees will acquire him. The Rays haven’t given up hope, since they have had a special assignment scout watching Dunn all week, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse (Twitter link”
stuckey99 July 30th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
“I’m obviosuly biased against cashman, but if berkman is traded to the yankees i don’t think he’d be THAT dumb to agree to pay the man 15 million for 1 year – if that was the case then he should have just paid damon his money – and as we know cashman isn’t going to admit that he screwed up – thats why igawa is still in the minors”
This is perhaps the most entertainingly convoluted logic I’ve ever seen here .. and that’s saying something.
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Yeah it is a bit confusing – heres the breakdown
Berkman is about the equivalent of damon – a plus in somethings and a negative in others
Cashman held his ground with damon and did not give him the 15 mil per year he wanted
If cash gives berkman his 15 million next year in essence he is admitting that he f’d up by not giving damon the money he wanted
Cashman doesn’t like to swallow his pride by admitting he was wrong (in this case not paying damon – i’m not saying he was wroing but by paying berkman he is admitting that he was wrong
an example of him not admitting he was wrong is by having igawa rot in the minors and not giving him back to the japanese team that wanted him back a few years ago
Heard this: The Steinbrenners have given pre-approval to the acquisition of a large salary such as Lance Berkman or Adam Dunn. #trades 1 minute ago via web
What about trying to bring back Matsui? The Angels are fading fast and I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to get him. Probably just take on salary and maybe a low-mid level prospect. At least with him you know that your getting a clutch player that can hit in Yankee Stadium. Thoughts?
3:59pm CDT – The Astros and Yankees are close to a deal that would send Lance Berkman to the Bronx according to Joel Sherman of the New York Daily News.
Buster_ESPN Heard this: The Steinbrenners have given pre-approval to the acquisition of a large salary such as Lance Berkman or Adam Dunn. #trades
6 minutes ago via web
Giving Igawa back to his Japanese team would cost the Yankees over 2 million dollars in a luxury tax hit.
Why would Cashman do that? That doesn’t help the Yankees.
Common sense would tell you he isn’t picking up Berkman’s option, given their desire to add Cliff Lee and the upcoming negotiations with Jeter and Rivera.
Berkman seems like a good guy, bad knees didn’t inhibit the Yankees DH in 2009 so hopefully just having to hit 4 times a game will suit Lance well and he’ll pick up his offensive game if the Yankees land him.
You would have to think Andy’s friendship with Berkman helped this deal. Besides the $$ of course. Berkman as the Yanks DH will look really good in the Yanks lineup tomorrow batting 6th. Maybe the Astros can include Clemens in the deal also.
There are no circumstances in which Berkman’s $15m dollar option is picked up. So even speculatively trying to use the specter of it to offhandedly criticize Cashman is ludicrous.
As to Igawa, I failed to see how leaving him in Scranton is an failure of admission on his part. If anything, keeping him that close a level below the Yankees is a constant reminder of the deal, not the opposite.
Unless you’re suggesting Cashman still imagines eventually promoting him to the big club.
4:07pm CDT – Two different sources are reporting that the deal between the Astros and Yankees is done and that Berkman is heading to the Yankees. Haven’t seen anything official from either team as of yet. You have to wonder if the Rays are going to step up their chase of Adam Dunn.
“Giving Igawa back to his Japanese team would cost the Yankees over 2 million dollars in a luxury tax hit. ”
Would it? I think the key to the luxury tax hit is the team that gets Igawa putting him on their 40 man roster with the Yanks picking up most of the salary. The Japanese team scenario wouldn’t trigger that for obvious reasons. So the Yanks could sell Igawa or trade Igawa to Japan on the condition Igawa not come back to the majors and be OK. Although I don’t know how you enforce that condition and I haven’t heard any Igawa to Japan rumors.
I hadn’t, but if I added Danks and Wilson to the list I would have been the target of all these snipers telling me my whole point was silly because Danks isn’t as good as Lee.
If they got Berkman, hire a private jet. They can taxi up to Minute-Maid, pick him up and have him flown into tampa and land outside of the Teflon-Dome.
4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?
I like Berkman. I think you have to hope this energizes him.
He walks about as much as he K’s. His OPS is over .800.
As long as the price isn’t high in prospects this is a great move for this team.
Berkman isn’t a jerk. He’s played hard his whole career. Boston was salivating over him when they were ready to call it a career for Ortiz earlier this season.
Cash did a good job, pending what he gave up, if this goes through.
The Yanks aren’t paying the luxury tax now because Igawa isn’t on the 40 man. The rule is the 40 man roster salary counts toward luxury tax. So if you ship Igawa back to Japan you aren’t flouting any luxury tax rule. At least that’s the way I understand it.
BloggingBombers Source: Yankees deal for Berkman is “imminent” – won’t be giving up any big prospects, but will take on his contract. He’ll be the new DH.
2 minutes ago via UberTwitter
“4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?”
About as much as I can see Ivan Nova in the outfield.
4:20pm CDT – The deal sending Lance Berkman to the Bronx is “imminent” but Ken Rosenthal says the Yankees will NOT pick up his $15 million option for next season.
Don Vito A. Bellamo July 30th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?
I want to see what the Yanks are giving up for Berkman. You would assume they are paying most of his salary so hopefully they aren’t giving up anything good. I like the deal. His at bats can’t be any worse than Miranda or Thames. I am sure being in this good lineup will make him pick up his game.
“4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?
You guys got me confused!! Is it Burgman? Burkman? Burkmen? Burkmen? Whoever it is, is still say BACK TO BACK!!
I think they are going to pick up Hoffman to pitch batting practice to Alex so he can get the confidence to hit 600 and move on. Once thats accomplished they will ship him down to hang out with Igawa.
He can rescind at any point during 24-hour window, but source doubts that will happen. Announcement likely tmrrow aft. #Astros #Yankees #MLB 1 minute ago via web
The Yankees are most likely serious about Berkman but it’s curious as to why they are leaking this many stories about that deal and about their general willingness to absorb money before it’s completion.
Why even leak that? Why not just complete the deal and discuss it afterwords? Especially if it seems like information getting out may have complicated the Lee deal?
Just a hunch – I think the yankees may be sending out one final message to another team to let them know that they are ready to move on Berkman and that they are also ready to flex their financial muscle in a big way to take on the role of the bank.
And I’d guess that message is aimed at Washington. I don’t think Dunn is going to happen but I think this is the Yankees letting Washington know that this is their last chance to deal with the only team that is willing to take on significant money in season.
“Yankees deal for Berkman is “imminent” – won’t be giving up any big prospects, but will take on his contract. He’ll be the new DH.”
I’m so glad that the Yankees have found some money. When Damon was trying to make a deal, they were struggling financially, barely able to pay their payroll. Thank God that they’ve found some money these last few months.
He can rescind at any point during 24-hour window, but source doubts that will happen
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Dammit… and here I thought he would take Pettittes private jet to Tampa just in time to make todays game. I think he should play todays game in between the 24 hour period as an appetizer.
Off topic, but I have said I few times I doubt the no inheritence tax for this year had any effect of the Steinbrenners. They likely had this situation planned out for years and the team was transferred to Yankee Global Enterprises a while back.
People have to take Berkman’s numbers this year into context. He was coming off an injury and is hitting in the middle of one of the worst lineups in baseball.
His primary protection, is Hunter Pence, an average hitter and Carlos Lee, who has morphed into one of the worst players in baseball.
He will be well insulated in this lineup and will say much better pitches.
If Berkman deals happens, we’ll be entering a Brave New World here at the LoHud blog. The line-up complainers will be limited to the batting order for their daily whining.
One suspects Gardner-for-lead-off will become the new ralliying cry, which is ironic, given Gardner BEING in the line-up last year usually set the same group off.
That very well might be. They’ll get two first round picks for him without question so the Nats are in the driver’s seat.
I just think the Yankees may be letting the Nats know this is it. Last chance to make a deal if they want to.
There’s no reason to leak stories this widely before completion of a deal and there’s really no reason to leak your willingness to take on money unless you want to communicate a message.
“laura – did damon also find humility while he was in detroit?”
Damon found humility when he realized that no one was gonna pay him $15M for 3 years. That’s why he went to the Steinbrenners looking to take the original deal they offered him. They told him that they didn’t have the money [a blatant lie] anymore and that he was on his own. He went to DET with his tag wagging between his legs. We ended up with Nick Johnson for all of a second and now, they are paying money yet again to a DH they wouldn’t have needed if they had signed Damon when he came crawling back to them earlier this year.
Where is he going to bat? 6th? 7th? 8th? I think the Yankees will bat him 8th between Granderson and Gardner in order to break up the lefties. By the way, THE CIRCULAR LINEUP IS BACK!
Johnson/Berkman give the Yanks what Damon would not have, flexibility beyond one year, and less risk of being saddled with an aging/underperforming player in years 2/3.
You just get a feeling Berkman would fit in very nicely with this team. I like the Justice anaolgy. And besides any friend of Andy’s is a friend of mine.
Probably more important than any trade the Yankee’s can make is Granderson getting and staying hot. A perfect time for him to make his run.
So close!!!! I even had the DH in the right spot, just the wrong name.
Colin Curtis is our DH Yeah baby
I like Curtis at DH, he usually has good AB’s and hits the ball hard. But those of you asking why the yanks are looking for a bat….Curtis filling that role is the reason why they’re looking.
That’s the kind of power I want to see in the DH spot. Sweet.
Wow, Colin Curtis at DH vs. Tampa? Time for a trade.
# Erin July 30th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
So close!!!! I even had the DH in the right spot, just the wrong name.
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Who’d you have? Miranda?
news flash, the DH spot will not likely continue to be a power position in the AL post-PED.
Tells you all you need to know about what they think miranda can do.
Unless of course miranda is packing his stuff up to head to houston….you never know…
Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Who?d you have? Miranda?
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Yes.
That Joe Girardi is a sneaky one.
yeah, I had it right too, other than Miranda in place of Colin Curtis…oh well, I am happy for him that he gets a chance to play.
Damn, no Man Child Miranda.
I love irrationally love him.
Maybe the thing we’ve been looking for has been right here under our noses the whole time.
Maybe the great indie band Quasi put it best:
“See how we grasp as the stars
So far away
You can’t even see what’s right in front of you”
upstate kate July 30th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
yeah, I had it right too, other than Miranda in place of Colin Curtis?oh well, I am happy for him that he gets a chance to play.
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kate, I’m happy for him too.
My frustration was only about my GTLU loss. LOL
I have a strange thing for Miranda as well; I would like to see him succeed.
“…grasp at the stars”
Stupid little blackberry keyboard.
Colin Curtis? Joe Girardi strikes again
The DH will continue to be a power position in the AL once Montero comes up
Girardi is tired of the same people winning the GTLU, so he changed it….just to see how smart you really are.
Joelsherman1 Berkman has a complete no-trade clause, but hear that would not be problem if it is #Yankees
Nick in SF,
You’re talking about Jeff Francouer right?
Is Juan Miranda being held back because the Yankees feel they have a deal in place for him????
Or…has he failed to impress in the short time he’s had a shot at the DH role????
My gut feel is that its the latter.
No question about it. Gammons knows that the Yankees are getting Dunn. NYYs have no chance at him.
I’m talking about Colin Curtis!
New Yankee precedent of breaking in rookies as the DH?
Or…has he failed to impress in the short time he’s had a shot at the DH role????
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Miranda at DH: .293 .341 .610 .951
Miranda at 1B: .000 .125 .000 .125
Ahhh I was just joking.
Ole French-Heart’s a crappy righty.
How can Texas pick up Cristian Guzman and have the Nat’s pick up his salary? They are bankrupt and just out there wheeling and dealing. Doesn’t make much sense.
There are no winners in today’s Guess The Line Up.
My computer was down for a bit, sorry for the delay.
REMINDER: There will be no GTLU until August 12th.
If LoHud would let me post as ‘Nick in SF in Santa Rosa’ everything — tone, subtlety, nuance, meaning — would be much clearer.
We have gained something, yes.
But what have we lost?
GB, I think the Yanks are in the hunt for Dunn
Lance Berkman does not directly fit any of the Yankees’ greatest needs.
However, his price both in dollars and/or prospects has fallen so low that the Yankees are definitely looking hard whether to acquire the switch-hitter.
The Yankees philosophy right now is this: They have some money to spend. Almost every other team in the majors doesn’t. So they are telling organizations hungry to move high-priced players to call and make their best offer. Translation: We can take some of your money headaches, but if we do we are not going to give up much in prospects.
By no later than 4 p.m. tomorrow, the Yankees will see what most appeals to them from his overpriced buffet and pick an item or two.
This is why they dropped out of the Adam Dunn sweepstakes: Because the Nationals were not willing to take marginal prospects just to get rid of the money. The same might go for Toronto and Scott Downs.
So for now the Yanks are seeing if they could use their financial might to act as vultures.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....bUs1h6L2YI
Pat M. July 30th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
GB, I think the Yanks are in the hunt for Dunn
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I thought so too, Pat, until Gammons said it was happening. I’ve never seen him be right, yet.
news flash, the DH spot will not likely continue to be a power position in the AL post-PED.
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Which is why even playing Montero at DH could create a significant relative advantage.
Berkman held out of lineup tonight for Astros
*not this year but in the future*
Guess I was a little late to the party on Guzman. Oh well
Berkman held out of lineup
There is so much leaking going on, it tells me teams are working on parallel deals and are looking to finalize some things.
When this many leaks are out, that’s usually the case. Especially when a team (the Yankees) are leaking they are willing to take on money.
go get berkman cashman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It will be Berkman or Dunn, my prediction
Is it scary that there hasn’t been any news or rumors from the redsox on who they are close to getting (except downs), or is it that they are resigned to the fact that they are probably 3rd in a 3 horse race this year and going to battle with what they have
Sawx will probably make a move too. What it is remains to be seen.
Would Yanks pick up Berkman’s option for next year? 15 mill or 2 mill buyout.
He is a better dh then nick johnson.
Yeah Gammons said that the “Rays are convinced” that the Yanks will get Dunn.
Great. Now all that needs to happen is for the Rays to convince the Yanks.
berkman held out of lineup – miranda not DH’ing….hmmmmmm…
lets hope that either myers or one of their relievers are seen shaking hands with the rest of the team as well…
sj,
maybe cashman is in super secret stealth mode and will drop a bomb tomorrow morning.
my guess is the entire yankee farms system for albert pujols and chris carpenter.
Its always about pitching. I’d like to see the Yankees get another arm for the BP.
Someone call over to Scranton and see if Nova is making his scheduled start.
Would Yanks pick up Berkman’s option for next year? 15 mill or 2 mill buyout
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I’m obviosuly biased against cashman, but if berkman is traded to the yankees i don’t think he’d be THAT dumb to agree to pay the man 15 million for 1 year – if that was the case then he should have just paid damon his money – and as we know cashman isn’t going to admit that he screwed up – thats why igawa is still in the minors
maybe it’s just me but seems like everyone is talking about Cervelli not hitting like he did prior to All-Star game, i just think it’s because he’s gotten less playing time and now is no longer in a groove…Posada at DH is where he needs to be, Cervelli behind the plate…anyone not think that’s a good idea?
Ok its 5 miles between Chic Fil A and Checkers here. I live nearly dead center all this fast food talk has me hungry. Help which way do I go???????
Get a spicy chick fil a sandwich, its an awesome sandwich.
“I’m obviosuly biased against cashman, but if berkman is traded to the yankees i don’t think he’d be THAT dumb to agree to pay the man 15 million for 1 year – if that was the case then he should have just paid damon his money – and as we know cashman isn’t going to admit that he screwed up – thats why igawa is still in the minors”
This is perhaps the most entertainingly convoluted logic I’ve ever seen here .. and that’s saying something.
I’d go with Checkers, but you can’t go wrong either way.
Cashman didn’t screw up with Damon. When you make the guy the highest offer, and he takes a lower offer, that’s not on the GM. Its on the player and his agent.
Johnny is also hitting .202 with RISP this year and hasn’t had a good year.
If Cashman bid against himself, and brought him back, and he was performing like this, you would be screaming bloody murder at him.
Sometimes, emotional biases aren’t always the most accurate indicators of balance.
You want to blame him for Nick Johnson? That’s fair game.
Damon? Not even close.
That’s all on Johnny and, more specifically, Boras.
Yeah but so is the spicy triple bacon burger. So torn here!
Sawx will probably make a move too. What it is remains to be seen.
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I read somewhere that Boston REALLY COVET Scott Downs but it reamins to be seen if the Blue Jays will trade within the division. Toronto is still sensitive about trading David Cone to the Yankees in 1996 and Roger Clemens to the Yankees in 1999.
Astros are playing the Mets at Citi. So Berkman can drop off his bags at YS and hop on a plane to Tampa.
Re: Igawa, he’s actually, “still in the minors” because it would cost the Yankees more money to deal him. They would get hit with a luxury tax hit they don’t need to take.
So, the winningest pitcher in Scranton history remains in minor league purgatory.
One of unexpected consequences of the way the luxury tax rule was designed.
As far as Berkman is concerned, no, they wouldn’t pick up his option for 2011.
Chances are, if they did acquire him, Houston would kick in money toward the remainder of his salary this year and the Yankees would buy out his option at the end of the season, making him a FA.
I don’t believe the Yanks and Dunn rumors. I think the Nats are just keeping that out there to up the price for the Rays and W.Sox.
From MLB-Rumors-R-Us:
“•Dunn says he’d be comfortable DHing for the rest of the year, according to multiple reporters, including Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post (Twitter link). That is music to the ears of White Sox, Rays and Yankees fans.
•The Rays are convinced that the Yankees will acquire Dunn, Peter Gammons told WEEI.com. Gammons suspects that if the Nationals trade Dunn, the Yankees will acquire him. The Rays haven’t given up hope, since they have had a special assignment scout watching Dunn all week, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse (Twitter link”
Just flipped my NYY calendar at work so I’m all set for Monday-
so you’re all aware, August is Chien-Ming Wang month.
stuckey99 July 30th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
“I’m obviosuly biased against cashman, but if berkman is traded to the yankees i don’t think he’d be THAT dumb to agree to pay the man 15 million for 1 year – if that was the case then he should have just paid damon his money – and as we know cashman isn’t going to admit that he screwed up – thats why igawa is still in the minors”
This is perhaps the most entertainingly convoluted logic I’ve ever seen here .. and that’s saying something.
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Yeah it is a bit confusing – heres the breakdown
Berkman is about the equivalent of damon – a plus in somethings and a negative in others
Cashman held his ground with damon and did not give him the 15 mil per year he wanted
If cash gives berkman his 15 million next year in essence he is admitting that he f’d up by not giving damon the money he wanted
Cashman doesn’t like to swallow his pride by admitting he was wrong (in this case not paying damon – i’m not saying he was wroing but by paying berkman he is admitting that he was wrong
an example of him not admitting he was wrong is by having igawa rot in the minors and not giving him back to the japanese team that wanted him back a few years ago
hows that?
Joelsherman1 Hearing Berkman deal from #Astros to #Yankees is on verge of completion
Buster_ESPN
Heard this: The Steinbrenners have given pre-approval to the acquisition of a large salary such as Lance Berkman or Adam Dunn. #trades 1 minute ago via web
Keep in mind that in the post season the Yanks could face some combination of Lee twice, Liriano twice and Price twice.
Anything to improve the offense vs LHP will be appreciated in this corner, Mr. Cashman.
Gammons paranoid about Rays’ paranoia?
MLBTR:
The Yankees are on the verge of acquiring Lance Berkman, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (on Twitter).
What about trying to bring back Matsui? The Angels are fading fast and I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to get him. Probably just take on salary and maybe a low-mid level prospect. At least with him you know that your getting a clutch player that can hit in Yankee Stadium. Thoughts?
I prefer Dunn but he’d cost more in prospects.
OK. really upset the baseball powers that be. Get Dunn and Berkman today and then trade one for young talent to the team that best suits the Yankees.
Latroy Farnsworth July 30th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
What about trying to bring back Matsui?
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I love Godzilla, but I think that ship has sailed.
stupid berkman screwed up my GTLU
Ed July 30th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
MLBTR:
The Yankees are on the verge of acquiring Lance Berkman, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (on Twitter).
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so in other words the trade is dead (kidding)
Matsui? Somebody yesterday posted a great line about letting 2009 go.
3:59pm CDT – The Astros and Yankees are close to a deal that would send Lance Berkman to the Bronx according to Joel Sherman of the New York Daily News.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-white-sox
“…bring back Matsui…thoughts?”
The Matsui Knee-Fluid Flume Ride at Disneyland is way too profitable for them to let him go.
i’d give farnsworth another chance in the bullpen – he can’t be worse than Chan Ho..can he…..can he?
Buster_ESPN Heard this: The Yankees’ talks for Lance Berkman are advancing, quickly. #trades
2 minutes ago via web
Buster_ESPN Heard this: The Steinbrenners have given pre-approval to the acquisition of a large salary such as Lance Berkman or Adam Dunn. #trades
6 minutes ago via web
Sherman actually has sources
Giving Igawa back to his Japanese team would cost the Yankees over 2 million dollars in a luxury tax hit.
Why would Cashman do that? That doesn’t help the Yankees.
Common sense would tell you he isn’t picking up Berkman’s option, given their desire to add Cliff Lee and the upcoming negotiations with Jeter and Rivera.
erin – on the officla calendar, it’s mariano month
Berkman seems like a good guy, bad knees didn’t inhibit the Yankees DH in 2009 so hopefully just having to hit 4 times a game will suit Lance well and he’ll pick up his offensive game if the Yankees land him.
You would have to think Andy’s friendship with Berkman helped this deal. Besides the $$ of course. Berkman as the Yanks DH will look really good in the Yanks lineup tomorrow batting 6th. Maybe the Astros can include Clemens in the deal also.
CNTG,
There are no circumstances in which Berkman’s $15m dollar option is picked up. So even speculatively trying to use the specter of it to offhandedly criticize Cashman is ludicrous.
As to Igawa, I failed to see how leaving him in Scranton is an failure of admission on his part. If anything, keeping him that close a level below the Yankees is a constant reminder of the deal, not the opposite.
Unless you’re suggesting Cashman still imagines eventually promoting him to the big club.
You’re not that far gone, are you?
# Nick in SF July 30th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
“…bring back Matsui…thoughts?”
The Matsui Knee-Fluid Flume Ride at Disneyland is way too profitable for them to let him go.
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Ok, that was disgusting. And brilliant.
not excited about berkman at all. he’s is actually performing worse than our DL slot has this year.
4:07pm CDT – Two different sources are reporting that the deal between the Astros and Yankees is done and that Berkman is heading to the Yankees. Haven’t seen anything official from either team as of yet. You have to wonder if the Rays are going to step up their chase of Adam Dunn.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-white-sox
# Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
not excited about berkman at all. he’s is actually performing worse than our DL slot has this year.
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I’m not psyched about it either. I just hope the Yanks did not give up anything of value.
Wave,
Don’t forget CJ Wilson and John Danks
“Giving Igawa back to his Japanese team would cost the Yankees over 2 million dollars in a luxury tax hit. ”
Would it? I think the key to the luxury tax hit is the team that gets Igawa putting him on their 40 man roster with the Yanks picking up most of the salary. The Japanese team scenario wouldn’t trigger that for obvious reasons. So the Yanks could sell Igawa or trade Igawa to Japan on the condition Igawa not come back to the majors and be OK. Although I don’t know how you enforce that condition and I haven’t heard any Igawa to Japan rumors.
nova and adams are name’s I saw in deal. Doesnt make sense unless houston giving money,
LGY-
I hadn’t, but if I added Danks and Wilson to the list I would have been the target of all these snipers telling me my whole point was silly because Danks isn’t as good as Lee.
You have to think ahead around here…
If they got Berkman, hire a private jet. They can taxi up to Minute-Maid, pick him up and have him flown into tampa and land outside of the Teflon-Dome.
IF Berkman is acquired, I believe the deal is made on the logic that being thrust into a playoff situation will energize said player.
That said, his left-handed splits are entirely respectable.
His Cervelli-like righthanded splits are dragged down his overall numbers.
Are the Astros going to pull a Jack Z. at the last minute and ask the Rays for their last offer? LOL
“Berkman would require that any team that trades for him NOT to pick up his 2011 option, according to Alyson Footer of the Astros”
Yeah I wouldn’t really worry about that Puma.
You can’t circumvent the rule to sell him back to Japan. That’s why they would still get nailed with the tax hit.
As far as Berkman is concerned, its clear the Yankees would be buying low and hope he has a hot two months with a club trying to win.
Perhaps they figure hitting in a better lineup with give him that chance.
When you are trading for guys, there are no sure things.
You take your shot and see how it goes.
One thing I do know, Lance Berkman is a better hitter than Juan Miranda, Marcus Thames and anybody else they have tried in that slot.
Berkman would be an interesting pickup.
Berkman move does nothing for me
ID-
Take a look at Berkman’s July numbers. That ought to float your boat.
Wave,
I’m with you on improving vs LHP. They are going to see a lot of it in the playoffs. Not sure how I feel about Berkman because of that.
.261/.395/.479/.874 as a left-hander.
You don’t want to see the right-handed splits, trust me.
The relief market must be really bad. I mean the twins had to give up a great prospect for Capps. Jays asking for the moon for scott downs.
I wish there was a way to see his splits vs LHP month by month.
Hopefully, he has been improving along with his play vs RHP.
4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-white-sox
I like Berkman. I think you have to hope this energizes him.
He walks about as much as he K’s. His OPS is over .800.
As long as the price isn’t high in prospects this is a great move for this team.
Berkman isn’t a jerk. He’s played hard his whole career. Boston was salivating over him when they were ready to call it a career for Ortiz earlier this season.
Cash did a good job, pending what he gave up, if this goes through.
Berkman is better than Curtis or Miranda.
SJ444-
The Yanks aren’t paying the luxury tax now because Igawa isn’t on the 40 man. The rule is the 40 man roster salary counts toward luxury tax. So if you ship Igawa back to Japan you aren’t flouting any luxury tax rule. At least that’s the way I understand it.
Berkman is redundent… we need a RH bat…
So many lefties this postseason… Price, Lee, Wilson, Danks, Burhlee
Let’s get Bergman, bet it is a salary dump, and one thing we have plenty of is money.
Either berkman or dunn can make right field at YS very short. Whatever is the cheapest in talent expendature is fine by me.
BloggingBombers Source: Yankees deal for Berkman is “imminent” – won’t be giving up any big prospects, but will take on his contract. He’ll be the new DH.
2 minutes ago via UberTwitter
Irreverent Discourse July 30th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
not excited about berkman at all. he’s is actually performing worse than our DL slot has this year.
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Keep in mind who has been in the DH spot. Posada, and at times Arod, Swisher, etc., and lesser hitters have played their position.
LGY-
That’s exactly what I’m hoping.
I like the pick-up if it happens.
Nothing like the thick of pennant race to rejuvenate Berkman’s bat.
The dreaded imminent lol
“4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?”
About as much as I can see Ivan Nova in the outfield.
4:20pm CDT – The deal sending Lance Berkman to the Bronx is “imminent” but Ken Rosenthal says the Yankees will NOT pick up his $15 million option for next season.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-white-sox
Berkman is redundent… we need a RH bat…
So many lefties this postseason… Price, Lee, Wilson, Danks, Burhlee
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Berkman is a switch hitter.
Hoffman is all done…….
Don Vito A. Bellamo July 30th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?
http://bleacherreport.com/arti…..-white-sox
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Somebody has failed to do their homework or the Brewers are planning on converting Nova to the outfield.
Berkman is a very good pickup, if it happens.
The Yankees aren’t going to go into the postseason with Marcus Thames, Colin Curtis and Juan Miranda as the DH
People are living in a dreamworld if they thought that was going to happen.
The Yankees are a championship team when Posada is behind the plate.
Even with a diminished skillset, Berkman is a MUCH better hitter than any internal option the Yankees had at DH.
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“Berkman is redundent… we need a RH bat…”
Who wants to be first to point out he IS a righthanded bat.
I want to see what the Yanks are giving up for Berkman. You would assume they are paying most of his salary so hopefully they aren’t giving up anything good. I like the deal. His at bats can’t be any worse than Miranda or Thames. I am sure being in this good lineup will make him pick up his game.
“4:14pm CDT – Another report out of San Diego. The Yankees have apparently inquired about Trevor Hoffman. The Brewers are asking for top outfield prospect Ivan Nova in return. Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?
http://bleacherreport.com/arti…..-white-sox”
Nova can also play outfield? What a goofy report or poor editing.
So like tonight, we’d have Berkman instead of Curtis. I like the kid, but I’d rather have Berkman hitting.
Ivan Nova the outfielder hahaha
Why would the Yankees want Hoffman? That has to be the worst rumor ever.
A rumor making the rounds is that Curtis is in the lineup because Juan Miranda is one of the players likely going to Houston for Berkman.
4:23pm CDT – Ken Davidoff expects the Astros to get “non-prospect” minor leaguers as well as salary relief from the Yankees in return for Berkman.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-white-sox
KenDavidoff
#Astros indeed expected to get non-prospect minor-leaguer(s) and payroll relief from #Yankees in return for Berkman.
I think the Hoffmann thing is a fake.
Why would it be coming outta San Diego? Hoffmann has been in Milwaukee for 2 years.
Miranda would be a good guy to move from a logistical sense.
He is on the 40 man and will be out of options after this year.
Berkman = David Justice = BACK TO BACK CHAMPS!!
Hoffman is 43 years old and can’t get anyone out
“Can you see Hoffman and Mariano Rivera in the same bullpen?”
Hoff could help Mo keep track of how many saves he needs to break the record?
Good move for the Yankees if that all they would be giving up.
Hoffman is not pitching well and they sure as hell would not get Nova for him.
stuckey – but… switch hitters are confusing!
Andy Pettitte will be happy. Berkman is his best friend and he’s been in Cashman’s ear for awhile to trade for him.
Sounds like a salary dump. The Yankees aren’t picking up the option and likely aren’t giving up any prospects.
If that’s the case, it’s a definite win for the Yankees.
If we trade Miranda for Berkman, Bodhi might never come back.
I just hope he doesn’t turn out to be ivan rodriguez
Bergman has been hitting well now that he’s healthy…
BernardoFallas Lance #Berkman considering 4 potential trade destinations
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Another Lee Jack Z. situation??? lol
Speaking of switch hitters, why hasn’t Pat Venditte been promoted? He’s cleaning up in Tampa.
ET July 30th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Berkman is redundent… we need a RH bat…
So many lefties this postseason… Price, Lee, Wilson, Danks, Burhlee
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Maybe Teixeira, swisher and Posada can give Berkman a crash course in becoming a switch hitter.
Rossalini could be the PTBNL.
You guys got me confused!! Is it Burgman? Burkman? Burkmen? Burkmen? Whoever it is, is still say BACK TO BACK!!
I think they are going to pick up Hoffman to pitch batting practice to Alex so he can get the confidence to hit 600 and move on. Once thats accomplished they will ship him down to hang out with Igawa.
If the Yankees are picking up all of the salary or even significant salary on this Berkman deal, I hope all the talk ends about Hal being cheap.
That is quite a lot of salary to pick up at the deadline.
Please tell me that part of this deal is the Astros have to take Park back…lol
Berkman’s performance against lefties this season and in the past 2 seasons hasn’t been inspiring. Perhaps that might be what he meant?
I mean, Pena can technically bat right handed, though it doesn’t do much good
Every report indicates that no major prospects are going to Houston
GB7, I’m giving you a time out for snarkiness. You know that’s not what ET meant (i hope).
Berkman? Berkmen?
Berkman started hitting in June and his OPS in July was over 900. Good addition to an already deep lineup.
Berkman has had 4 hits in his last 7 games….not hitting well
“If the Yankees are picking up all of the salary or even significant salary on this Berkman deal, I hope all the talk ends about Hal being cheap.”
The void in the current tax law did give him a windfall…
berkman has 24 hr to recind trade
Ken_Rosenthal
He can rescind at any point during 24-hour window, but source doubts that will happen. Announcement likely tmrrow aft. #Astros #Yankees #MLB 1 minute ago via web
Brett Wallace is going to be called up to replace Lance.
“If the Yankees are picking up all of the salary or even significant salary on this Berkman deal, I hope all the talk ends about Hal being cheap.”
The void in the current tax law did give him a windfall…
IMO, it’s more about where they spend. I would rather see them spend on prospects than veterans.
Hace, If Lance does come over, he’ll be hitting vs. RH……They need a lefthand stick
The Yankees are most likely serious about Berkman but it’s curious as to why they are leaking this many stories about that deal and about their general willingness to absorb money before it’s completion.
Why even leak that? Why not just complete the deal and discuss it afterwords? Especially if it seems like information getting out may have complicated the Lee deal?
Just a hunch – I think the yankees may be sending out one final message to another team to let them know that they are ready to move on Berkman and that they are also ready to flex their financial muscle in a big way to take on the role of the bank.
And I’d guess that message is aimed at Washington. I don’t think Dunn is going to happen but I think this is the Yankees letting Washington know that this is their last chance to deal with the only team that is willing to take on significant money in season.
Why would there be a “report out of San Diego” about Trevor Hoffman?
Isn’t he on the Milwaukee Brewers?
Berkman has had 4 hits in his last 7 games….not hitting well
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He has a .984 OPS in the last 7 days.
Last 28 days he has a 1.020 OPS
Berkman’s uniform #?
17
Time to dust off my Oscar Gamble jersey.
4:32pm: Berkman approved a possible deal to the Yanks earlier today, according to Rosenthal
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“Yankees deal for Berkman is “imminent” – won’t be giving up any big prospects, but will take on his contract. He’ll be the new DH.”
I’m so glad that the Yankees have found some money. When Damon was trying to make a deal, they were struggling financially, barely able to pay their payroll. Thank God that they’ve found some money these last few months.
24 hour window??
Booooo, I want to start complaining about Berkman’s bad approach at the plate NOW.
Ken_Rosenthal A twist on Berkman: Due to his 10-5 rts, trade to #Yankees would not be official until after expiration of 24-hr window
Source says he gave approval earlier today, so everything should be OK. But official word would not be until Sat.
He can rescind at any point during 24-hour window, but source doubts that will happen
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Dammit… and here I thought he would take Pettittes private jet to Tampa just in time to make todays game. I think he should play todays game in between the 24 hour period as an appetizer.
rather have had Damon here than Berkman
Rich,
Off topic, but I have said I few times I doubt the no inheritence tax for this year had any effect of the Steinbrenners. They likely had this situation planned out for years and the team was transferred to Yankee Global Enterprises a while back.
So,
Jeter ss
Swish rf
Tex 1b
Alex 3b
Cano 2b
Berkman dh
Posada c
Granderson cf
Gardner Lf
Not bad…and from the left side Lance should enjoy the Bronx.
JeffPassan Talked about going to #Yankees with Berkman last month. “No way it happens,” he said, “but I’d love it.” Well, looks like it’s happening.
CB-
I don’t think so, I think the market for Dunn is more about what the Nats want in return than about money.
Hopefully, Berkman can bring up his inner 2006 Berkman for the next 3 months.
laura – did damon also find humility while he was in detroit?
LGY…..That’s for the save on Bergman
LGY,
There you go again, putting facts on this blog to mess up the perpetually miserable.
A bad habit you need to snap my friend.
People have to take Berkman’s numbers this year into context. He was coming off an injury and is hitting in the middle of one of the worst lineups in baseball.
His primary protection, is Hunter Pence, an average hitter and Carlos Lee, who has morphed into one of the worst players in baseball.
He will be well insulated in this lineup and will say much better pitches.
If Berkman deals happens, we’ll be entering a Brave New World here at the LoHud blog. The line-up complainers will be limited to the batting order for their daily whining.
One suspects Gardner-for-lead-off will become the new ralliying cry, which is ironic, given Gardner BEING in the line-up last year usually set the same group off.
Since Damon isn’t on the market, the subject is moot.
*see* better pitches
Wave-
That very well might be. They’ll get two first round picks for him without question so the Nats are in the driver’s seat.
I just think the Yankees may be letting the Nats know this is it. Last chance to make a deal if they want to.
There’s no reason to leak stories this widely before completion of a deal and there’s really no reason to leak your willingness to take on money unless you want to communicate a message.
As long as GM S’s holdings stay with Mrs. Steinbrenner, there won’t be any inheritance taxes. Later on, she can arrange a sale to the kids.
Pat, I suspect you know his name’s not Bergman.
Care to let the rest of us in on the joke?
“laura – did damon also find humility while he was in detroit?”
Damon found humility when he realized that no one was gonna pay him $15M for 3 years. That’s why he went to the Steinbrenners looking to take the original deal they offered him. They told him that they didn’t have the money [a blatant lie] anymore and that he was on his own. He went to DET with his tag wagging between his legs. We ended up with Nick Johnson for all of a second and now, they are paying money yet again to a DH they wouldn’t have needed if they had signed Damon when he came crawling back to them earlier this year.
SJ44 July 30th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Since Damon isn’t on the market, the subject is moot.
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and hopefully, for the final time “mute”.
is it true Berkman makes 14.5 mil
Bergman?
It’s fine with me but I was hoping the whole thing was a smokescreen to flush out the real prize.
Grace Kelly!
Love it. You can’t have too many switch hitters with power. We know have a regular DH!
tag = tail
Laura … move on.
This is becoming unseemly.
Where is he going to bat? 6th? 7th? 8th? I think the Yankees will bat him 8th between Granderson and Gardner in order to break up the lefties. By the way, THE CIRCULAR LINEUP IS BACK!
Sorry for the Casablanca reference…….Can;t see without lenses
“This is becoming unseemly.”
This from someone who asked why people post on a blog. LOL!
Johnson/Berkman give the Yanks what Damon would not have, flexibility beyond one year, and less risk of being saddled with an aging/underperforming player in years 2/3.
You just get a feeling Berkman would fit in very nicely with this team. I like the Justice anaolgy. And besides any friend of Andy’s is a friend of mine.
Probably more important than any trade the Yankee’s can make is Granderson getting and staying hot. A perfect time for him to make his run.