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Pregame notes: Remembering The Boss

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Jul 30, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

George Steinbrenner built his reputation in New York, but he lived in Tampa. Before tonight’s game, the Rays will ask for a moment of silence to remember the Yankees owner.

“That’s a great gesture on their part,” Joe Girardi siad. “We would see him (in Tampa Bay). He would be in my office sometimes, either today or tomorrow or even Sunday. We know that he’s with us, but we’re not going to physically see him, and that’s different.”

Girardi said he’s hoping to see some of the Steinbrenners while he’s down here. Derek Jeter said he didn’t want to say one way or the other whether he would be meeting with the family.

“It’s weird whether you’re in New York or here,” he said “I don’t think it makes that much of a difference. He would pop in every once in a while when we played here. Not so much recently. It’s still weird. It’s not too long ago that he passed away.”

• Girardi said the decision to start Jorge Posada at catcher was an easy one. “I checked with him when he came in, he said he was ready to catch,” Girardi said.

• As for Colin Curtis at DH, Girardi said he likes the fact he can pinch hit for Curtis late in the game without losing one of his position players. That’s why he didn’t DH one of his other outfielders. “If they want to make a switch we can make a switch,” Girardi said. “I like the way he’s swinging the bat, too.”

• Could this be an indication that Juan Miranda is involved in the Lance Berkman trade talks? I guess so, but the Astros just got Brett Wallace from Toronto. Not sure why they would need another lefty swinging first baseman.

• Andy Pettitte is expected to be at the park for tonight’s game. “The great thing is he feels really good and he’s progressing,” Girardi said. “But we haven’t asked him to really push off a mound.” The Yankees will talk to Pettitte on Sunday about what’s next in his rehab process.

• Alfredo Aceves will throw one more bullpen tomorrow. Assuming he’s OK after that, he will face hitters next. The Yankees haven’t decided whether that will be a controlled environment (live batting practice) or uncontrolled (a rehab assignment).

RAYS
John Jaso C
Carl Crawford LF
Evan Longoria 3B
Carlos Pena 1B
Matt Joyce RF
Willy Aybar DH
B.J. Upton CF
Reid Brignac 2B
Jason Bartlett SS

Sorry for not having pictures. As you can probably imagine, things are pretty hectic right now.

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98 Responses to “Pregame notes: Remembering The Boss”

  1. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    SJ, it’s beyond dumb because Adams and Nova could be used as chips down the line, not for an old guy who’s a rental. That’s not using your assets wisely.

  2. CB July 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    repost:

    Assuming that the deal is as described and the yanks are only giving up a “non-prospect” this is a very good deal.

    Berkman is at the tail end of his career but he’s still a very patient hitter. He is going to fit into the line up very well. He’s a pain to pitch to. He’s going to see a ton of pitches and he’s going to get on base.

    I also think DH’ing may help him. He’s had a number of physical problems and not having to play the field could help that. He doesn’t have experience DH’ing but he’s a very experienced guy.

    This move adds another dimension to the yankees line up. It’s going to help relengthen the line up, especially on days when Posada is not playing.

  3. jacksquat July 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Erin July 30th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
    # Richie Rich July 30th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    If the Berkman deal goes through – where will he bat in the lineup?

    ***********************************
    Yes, I want to know too. Very important for GTLU purposes.

    Likely 6-8.

  4. joeman July 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    go get a 8th inning guy….

  5. jimmypulv July 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    the deal is done says sherman

  6. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    # LGY July 30th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    “All I can go on is what he did last year and my gut, which is rarely wrong. ”

    ————————

    What did you eat today?
    *****

    I literally burst out laughing when I read this. Good one, LGY!

  7. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    That’s a very classy gesture on the Ray’s part..

    Good news on Andy…….

  8. Andrew July 30th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    At 34 LB is not an old guy. And honestly it’s a trend at this point by a lot of people to claim the Yankees gave up way too much in every trade they make at this point, so even if they end up trading just Pat Venditte to Houston people will harp on Cashman giving away “Trade Chips he could use down the line”, or some other justification for ripping him for trading away someone said poster most likely has never seen play before in their life.

  9. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Nice post, CB.

    Joeman, Marmol is averaging 17 K/9.

    That kind of stuff plays up in the post season.

    The speed differential between Marmol and Mo would toy with heads in the late innings.

  10. PacoDooley July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    This trade makes no sense and makes them look like they have no foresight. If they pick up all his salary, then they pay him in half a season what it would have cost to keep Matsui or Damon. Add the Park contract, which looked bad at the time and worse now, and you have a team that doesn’t appear to value all of its dollars equally.

  11. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Berkman already saying his goodbyes to team on TV during batting practice.

    Did I hear him telling Bret Myers to demand a trade to the Yankees? LOL

  12. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Andrew, ok no he’s not “old”, but I still think Adams and Nova could be put to better use other than to trade for a rental – and Berkman would definitely be e a rental.

  13. joeman July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    91 K’s in 48 innings is sick….

  14. MTU July 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    CB-

    It’s just a gut feeling but I think Berkman will respond well to being a Yankee, and I also think he still has something left in the tank.

    He might surprise people.

    Good to see you posting again. :)

  15. Rich in NJ July 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    TB knows their clientele. George was the man in Tampa.

  16. G. Love July 30th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    Betsy,

    Wait to hear the names before you get upset. I don’t think it’s going to be as good as you think it will be. The Yankees are taking on a lot of money and are agreeing to Berkman’s condition of declining the option.

    Cashman will only give up what he has no value for or what he thinks he will lost in the Rule V draft next year.

  17. SJ44 July 30th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Its not beyond dumb Betsy and you are making an assumption that can’t be proven.

    What assets do you think you will get for a AA second baseman and a AAA pitcher who projects to a back end of the rotation guy at best?

    These aren’t high end, Montero, Brackman, Romine, etc prospects.

    If those guys go for Berkman, and he helps them win again, guess what? That’s exactly what you use prospects for when you are a big market team like the Yankees.

  18. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Who are the “non-prospects”?

    Kontos? not saying he is.

    Vechionacci?

    Adams?

    McAllister?

  19. P July 30th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Berkman is a switch hitter. That means we now have 4 switch hitters in out lineup.

    Swish
    Tex
    Posada
    Berkman

  20. mick July 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    I love the deal if it’s real.
    A switch-hitting professional hitter, for nothing.
    He was probably the target all along.
    Sounds like Justice to me.

  21. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Betsy-

    Unless the Astros picked up half of the money, ala the Oswalt deal, doubt that Nova is in the deal.

  22. Andrew July 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    No guarantee either Nova or Adams are in the trade. Nova is pitching for Scranton tonight and as of now is still on track to start so that would lead you to believe he is not in the trade. Adams has a broken ankle and honestly he’s going to be traded at some point, why not now for a guy that could play a big hand in getting #28? The team will always ultimately care most about years where they can win it all. This is one of those years.

  23. Carl July 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Russo not in the lineup for SWB.

  24. jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    I’ve gotta admit that I’m surprised that the Yankees will ndeed make the deal for Berkman. I didn’t think Hal was gonna let Cashman give up any money and I knew the Yankees didn’t want to give up any prospects. If the deal is as advertised (for non prospect minor leaguers) then I guess its an improvement over Juan Miranda or the injured Nick Johnson.

  25. CB July 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    The majority of players in the minor are non-prospects. There is no lack of non-prospects in the yankees minor league system.

  26. Fondo Motz July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    P – good point. Cash like versatility. Mix and match.

    Not the greatest deal, but we’ll be cheering when Lancelot belts one.

  27. Erin July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    YankeesWFAN Berkman’s splits are not great, better as LHB than RHB. He’s been hot, good DH/bench option…but not ideal for me, not as weak RH hitter

    YankeesWFAN Berkman’s desire might carry him for 2 months though. He’s been aching to play for winner again since ’05

  28. Cashmoney July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    if we get Berkman for ‘peanuts’ then there is nothing not to like this trade. I was hoping another guy who can mash lefties, but can’t complain about Berkman.

  29. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    GLove, I’m not upset – I’m just saying it would be stupid to do that. I don’t think that’s going to happen anyway because it sounds like the Yankees took on the $$$ in exchange for giving Houston a non-prospect.

  30. Richie Rich July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Let’s see… hmmm I presume the lineup looks something like this

    R SS Derek Jeter
    S RF Nick Swisher
    S 1B Mark Texeira
    R 3B Alex Rodriguez
    L 2B Robinson Cano
    S C Jorge Posada
    S DH Lance Berkamn
    L CF Curtis Granderson
    L LF Brett Gardner

  31. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Russo possibly?

    Wow!

    Non-prospect for sure.

  32. UnKnown July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Man the Rays sure do have a revolving door on that lead off spot. Tonight it is Jaso? Madden is a weird cookie with funny glasses

  33. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    CB July 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    Assuming that the deal is as described and the yanks are only giving up a “non-prospect” this is a very good deal.

    Berkman is at the tail end of his career but he’s still a very patient hitter. He is going to fit into the line up very well. He’s a pain to pitch to. He’s going to see a ton of pitches and he’s going to get on base.

    I also think DH’ing may help him. He’s had a number of physical problems and not having to play the field could help that. He doesn’t have experience DH’ing but he’s a very experienced guy.

    This move adds another dimension to the yankees line up. It’s going to help relengthen the line up, especially on days when Posada is not playing.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    That would be a Lance Pendleton and a Miranda or Justin Snyder type of players.

  34. Melk Man July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Ken Davidoff
    Friend of Berkman says he “hates media scrutiny.” Well, that shouldn’t be a prob…oh, wait. #Astros-#Yankees about an hour ago

  35. Richie Rich July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Are you kidding me why is the TB catcher batting lead off?

  36. mick July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Back to circularity, is that a word?

  37. UnKnown July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    And welcome to the boggie down The Big Puma

  38. Lost July 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    This is a fantastic trade. One that nobody saw coming. Yanks did an incredible job working the market and don’t have to give up much in comparison if they went after Dunn.

    Top Prospects / Dunn
    Money / Berkman

    = No brainer !

    You need not worry about who’s going to Houston.

    Be back after dinner.

  39. SJ44 July 30th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    CB,

    Bingo.

    Fans fall too in love with names as prospects and protect them as if they are all going to be superstars.

    Logic tells you that the more money the Yankees take on in the deal, the less of a prospect hit they take.

    Bottom line, none of the guys the Yankees see as actually having a chance to be in NY one day are in the deal and that’s all that matters.

    You add Berkman to this lineup and it lengthens it in a way it hasn’t been lengthened all year.

    Hard to complain aboiut that unless you are just prone to be unhappy about everything the Yankees do to improve their team.

    Hard to understand, given their place in the standings and their success the last two years.

  40. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    I never said either player was in the trade, just that if they were, I wouldn’t like it.

    SJ, what, Adams can’t come back and have a very good year next year? Nova either? For a 2 month rental? I wouldn’t do it – we’ll have to disagree on this one – and it’s moot anyway.

  41. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Sterling Call – SIRRRRRRRRRRRRR LANCELOT HOME RUN. YESSIREE LANCE! AN UPPER DECK BOMB!

  42. MTU July 30th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Miranda and Adams are two players I wouldn’t miss.

    Kontos is coming back from TJ.

    Nova and Noesi are fairly equal. One can go.

    Russo is expendable.

    Just a few examples IMO. :)

  43. IIOIIOIIO July 30th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I’m confused: I thought non-prospects meant players not expected to make an impact with the big club. Why would Adams or Nova be included in a deal where the term non-prospect is being tossed around? Maybe everyone should stop freaking out and wait to hear what we gave up and how much money, if any, Houston is throwing in. If we are truly giving up a “non-prospect,” how can this deal be bad? Even if Berkman is terrible with us, we really did lose anything but a few million dollars. He’s a goner after this year anyway.

  44. Rich in NJ July 30th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    As much as I hate Sterling, I hope Berkman hits enough big HRs so that I hate Sterling even more.

  45. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    CB, I never said that I would never trade Adams or Nova – I am not one of those prospect huggers – and I really don’t know where anyone got the idea that I did say that. I am opposed to trading them for an older player who’s also a rental……….if I’m in the minority, so be it.

  46. Apple byte July 30th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Teixeira, Swisher, Posada, Berkman, and Ramiro Pena on the bench are all switch hitters.
    I get the feeling that Melancon will be a player sent to Houston.

    Berkman has shaved and said his goodbyes in Houston. Not in their lineup tonight.

  47. mick July 30th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    How is this a 2 month rental?
    Isn’t he demanding we decline the option next year?

  48. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    So we know Sweeney hates the trade……..good; I don’t like Sweeney, never have.

  49. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    If Russo goes in this deal for Berkman, does GB’s adopted son Brandon Laird get the call to AAA Scranton?

  50. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    How is it not a rental? The guy won’t be on the team next year.

  51. Richie Rich July 30th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Miranda and Adams are two players I wouldn’t miss.

    Kontos is coming back from TJ.

    Nova and Noesi are fairly equal. One can go.

    Russo is expendable.

    Just a few examples IMO. :)

    _______________________________

    MTU – Noesi is considered more superior than Nova although they are both of the same age. He has a more complete repetoire than Nova.

    Adams is a good hitting prospect but he is blocked by Cano. He will yield us a better talent than Berkman. Only if Seattle took him for Lee.

  52. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    I’m sorry, CB – I thought you said that; nevermind, lol

  53. joeman July 30th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    lock down 8th inning guy

  54. Andrew July 30th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    It’s a 2 month rental because he will be a free agent once his option is declined. Yankees already have a 1B and don’t seem to have any interest in having a long-term DH signed to the roster. So unless Berkman wants to come back on a 1-year deal he’s a rental.

  55. IIOIIOIIO July 30th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    How is this a 2 month rental?
    Isn’t he demanding we decline the option next year?

    ————————

    Yes, he’s demanding we don’t pick up his option because he still wants to go back and sign with Houston after these two months. We’re not going to make an offer on him after the end of this season, hence 2 month rental.

  56. jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    YankeesWFAN Berkman’s splits are not great, better as LHB than RHB. He’s been hot, good DH/bench option…but not ideal for me, not as weak RH hitter

    ——————————————————————————————————

    I guess Marcus Thames will still see some time as DH against good lefthanders.

  57. Rich in NJ July 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Trading Russo would be the kind of deal that makes sense. Some upside, but very expendable.

  58. mick July 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    we are picking up the 2m buyout and he becomes a FA?

  59. Rich in NJ July 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    “YankeesWFAN Berkman’s splits are not great, better as LHB than RHB. He’s been hot, good DH/bench option…but not ideal for me, not as weak RH hitter”

    If Sweeny doesn’t like the deal, it’s a great trade.

  60. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    SJ, if you were directing those last comments to me, then give me a break – just because I disagree with you? I am NOT complaining………..and that’s enough of that because I don’t need to explain any further.

  61. Eroc July 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Considering we need a guy who hits lefties more than a DH-type, Sweeney isin’t offbase.

    Unless Berkman can turn back the clock and hit lefties like he did back pre-08, we’re going to be vulnerable against lefties, especially now that Thames won’t DH against them (or unless they play him in the field and take Grandy out of the lineup).

    We needed a RH hitting OF more than a DH who can’t hit lefties. He is a switch hitter in name only the last 2 years. He is Granderson-like against lefties. Can’t play the both of them in the lineup together vs. lefties.

  62. CB July 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    People are making much too much about Berkman’s splits this season.

    He has 64 at bats against LH pitching this whole season. That’s just not that many.

    For his career he does have a pronounced platoon split but he’s always been better against LH pitching than he has this season.

    They may just straight platoon him with Thames but I wouldn’t dismiss him as an option to play every day if needed.

  63. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Rich, exactly, lol……I hate listening to him when he comes on WFAN, but I do anyway.

  64. Rob B July 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Um, isn’t Adams a second baseman? Um, don’t we have some guy named Cano at that position?

    So why would anybody be too upset if he is traded? And the fact that he currently is out with a broken ankle? There is no guarantee he comes back with the same range of motion that he had before. Breaks in the joints can be very problematic.

  65. SJ44 July 30th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Who cares if he is a rental. They needed a guy like this in their lineup.

    Also, take a long view of this team. There aren’t a lot of open spots left on this club for next year.

    They are re-signing Derek Jeter. Cano, Tex and Arod are set.

    They are 3-4 deep at catcher.

    Gardner and Swisher are becoming all star type players.

    Granderson isn’t going anywhere.

    The pitching staff, once you add Lee, is also stocked.

    When you look at this team for 2011, you see one opening….DH.

    That’s how deep they are.

    They have the prospect depth to do a deal for Berkman and also for a relief pitcher, if they could swing it.

    Its a very, very deep club. Now and for next year.

  66. Jason22 July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    If Jimmy Paredes is in this deal, it’s not a good deal, he is a switch hitting kid who has a high upside.

    Russo is the kind of guy who you trade, plus pitchers like a Duff or Whelan.

    Paredes is a high 5 tool talent, for Berkman, you don’t trade him.

    I hope the minor league guys on twitter are wrong, as they are assuming he is involved since he is not in the lineup tonight, same for Russo.

  67. UnKnown July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Ha the guy with the Lebron Jersey on the other night at Prog field is on ESPN. That is hilarious

  68. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    One of Kay’s guests (Plesac?) mentioned how the Rangers would be a particularly dangerous opponent for the Yankees because they have Lee and another quality lefty in Wilson………..couldn’t argue with him there.

  69. Crash July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Berkman is a typical yankee type hitter. He is an on base guy perfect replacement for Nick Johnson. I like the trade. It is basically a salary dump type trade for Houston.

    Jeter
    Swish
    Teix
    A-Rod
    Cano
    Posada
    Granderson
    Berkman
    Gardy

  70. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Pendleon is 10-4 at Trenton, can and has started and relieved. He’s getting his innings back up with 114 this year. He’ll be 27, but, fully recovered from surgery and pitching well. Could be because he’s older than most of the competion, but, his experience is equal to most of them with 5 years, plus 1 year off for surgery.

  71. CR9 July 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Any confirmation on what we actually gave up for Berkman?

  72. mick July 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Why would he worry about us picking up his 15m salary next year?
    Not happening.

  73. Betsy July 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    SJ, I don’t care if he’s a rental, but since he is, I’m not trading prospects who could possibly be used as trading chips down the line. Again, this is moot, because this is not happening……..

  74. IIOIIOIIO July 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    we are picking up the 2m buyout and he becomes a FA?

    ———————————–

    Yes, he’s owed about 5 million for the rest of the year, when we pay the buyout and he becomes a free agent, the total cost is about 7 million. No idea whether Houston is paying any part of that or not, I guess time will tell.

  75. jacksquat July 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Eroc July 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Considering we need a guy who hits lefties more than a DH-type, Sweeney isin’t offbase.

    Unless Berkman can turn back the clock and hit lefties like he did back pre-08, we’re going to be vulnerable against lefties, especially now that Thames won’t DH against them (or unless they play him in the field and take Grandy out of the lineup).

    We needed a RH hitting OF more than a DH who can’t hit lefties. He is a switch hitter in name only the last 2 years. He is Granderson-like against lefties. Can’t play the both of them in the lineup together vs. lefties.

    DH’ing vs lhp is what Thames is primarily on the team for.

  76. MTU July 30th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Just out of curiosity.

    Does Houston have any relievers who might be included in an expanded trade ?

    Some one worth having who wouldn’t cost the Moon ?

  77. Disco July 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    AWESOME TRADE.

    WOW.

    Try matching up our lineup. You can’t.

  78. ZMAN July 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    This pretty much makes Thames useless unless they platoon him with Berkman, which is probably what they should do.

    I don’t see how you can have him and Granderson back-to-back in a lineup against lefties.

  79. jesusmonterofordh July 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    sj44 is right.

    yanks stole berkman, he been great with the bat. he another guy who see a ton of pitches..

    the only question where does he hit.

    i like either swisher or berkman to break up curtis and brett the jet

  80. Disco July 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    We pay 7mil, get real good production from our DH (upgrade at that spot) and a draft pick when he leaves. For nobody.

  81. IIOIIOIIO July 30th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Any confirmation on what we actually gave up for Berkman?

    ——————————-

    Not yet, but some speculation that it could be Jimmy Paredes of Low A Charleston. He was pulled from the lineup, but nothing concrete yet.

  82. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Jimmy Paredes is a 5-tool talent? Seriously?

  83. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    This is the calm before the storm.

    It indicates Cashman has not been scrambling and won’t be pushed to the 12th hour without options.

    He has a plan, has been proactive and is getting things done well in advance of the deadline.

    Getting Berkman for nothing with ample time to spare speaks volumes about Cashman’s work ethic, underlying strategy and unwavering focus.

    We’re getting an 8th inning guy and I think we’re in for a special treat.

    Marmol or Soria.

  84. CountryClub July 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Russo and Paredes for Berkman. Great trade.

  85. Richie Rich July 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    I don’t think we will offer Berkman arbitration – maybe not I don’t know

  86. IIOIIOIIO July 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    We pay 7mil, get real good production from our DH (upgrade at that spot) and a draft pick when he leaves. For nobody

    ———————-

    Precisely. I don’t really understand the controversy behind this trade. It’s just too bad he’s not a type A free agent.

  87. CB July 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    “When you look at this team for 2011, you see one opening….DH.”

    That’s exactly it. There is no more room on the team to fit more talent into the starting line up for next season other than DH.

    That’s why Montero as a DH makes a great deal of sense in many ways for the yankees. He wouldn’t for any other team – but for the yankees he does.

    Even if Montero was athletic enough to play LF or RF what would you do? You’d have to trade Swisher, Granderson or Gardner and I don’t think they’d have any interest in doing that. And even then they’d have an opening at DH.

    The yankees have an all star caliber player at every starting spot next season (or a contractual obligation they can’t alter).

    In a certain way it would make no sense to not try to fill DH with a plus bat, especially when that plus bat is cost controlled.

  88. austinmac July 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    I think they would play him most days but use one of the position players as the DH on occasion against a leftie with a bit of Thames thrown in.

  89. SJ44 July 30th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Besty,

    Prospects ARE trading chips. You use the chips when a deal becomes available that you like.

    Sometimes, the biggest mistake you make is holding onto a guy too long and he either gets hurts or shows that he isn’t that good.

    Take a good look at the Yankees over the last 15 years and you can’t count on one hand the prospects they traded who became multi-year all star players in other locations.

    No team in baseball scouts their own as well as the Yankees and its been that way for a very, very long time.

  90. Jason22 July 30th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    # Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Jimmy Paredes is a 5-tool talent? Seriously?

    Yes in fact he is, ask Patrick Teale who the most talented all around players the Yankees farm system has, and he has Paredes near the top of the list.

  91. CB July 30th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    “I don’t think we will offer Berkman arbitration – maybe not I don’t know”

    He’ll turn it down. He wants to go back to Houston – that’s why he insisted his $15M option not be picked up in order to waive his no trade.

    He’s not interested in the money – Houston is home for him.

    I don’t know if he’ll still qualify to be a type B player by the end of this season, but if he does the Yanks could get a compensation pick for him in the trade as well.

  92. jpb173 July 30th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    I don’t think we will offer Berkman arbitration – maybe not I don’t know

    ————————————————————————————————-

    The guys on the Major League Baseball Network said that Berkman doesn’t want the Yankees to pick up his option. I wouldn’t be surprised if he re-signs with Houston in the offseason.

  93. mick July 30th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    SJ
    Other than our catching prospects, what openings do we have up here in the near future?

  94. IIOIIOIIO July 30th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Yes in fact he is, ask Patrick Teale who the most talented all around players the Yankees farm system has, and he has Paredes near the top of the list.

    ——————-

    Paredes can’t field and can’t get on base. You’re borderline insane if losing Paredes in a deal for Berkman is something you’re worried about.

  95. joeman July 30th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    I’m a Marmol guy……what would it take to get him

  96. joeman July 30th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    lets see what joba can do tonight with a 6-4 lead into the 8th inning.

  97. P July 30th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Man is NICK SWISHER just SMASHING the ball …

    this is NOT the same Nick Swisher as last year !!!!

  98. jackamir July 30th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Sherman says Melancon & Paredes.

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